Full Transcript for Pt 1 ACCELERATIONISM is HERE! Political CHAOS (IS NORMAL) -Jay Dyer & Tim Gordon

--> 00:03:17.659 30 bottles. 45 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:18.819 Yeah, the bill is on the jet. 46 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.259 I order if you want to get fucked up. Tonight 47 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:23.300 is the night. 48 00:03:37.310 --> 00:03:40.030 That sticks and hoes Quack on gin and juice. 49 00:03:39.849 --> 00:03:45.419 That sticks and hoes Some fucker tried to sneak Attack 50 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.020 me from behind Thought Kenobi wouldn't know Now his arm 51 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:49.979 is on the floor That's what I call letting go 52 00:03:50.219 --> 00:03:52.020 Everybody staring Like they never seen. 53 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.840 A fight before Put the damage on the council Tell 54 00:03:53.860 --> 00:03:57.240 them training went alright Think twice Before sneaking up on 55 00:03:57.259 --> 00:03:59.659 Ben I got eyes in my neck Yo, I'm finna 56 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.319 be wrecked I heard that one Thank you, I fucked 57 00:04:03.530 --> 00:04:05.349 up Ooh, they made me mad In fact, I'll take 58 00:04:05.389 --> 00:04:08.939 two Look at my hand real quick. Forget this shit 59 00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:10.759 ever happened. Forget about me and my crew. 60 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:12.120 Hella shots, hella shots. 61 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:13.120 Green frog, man. 62 00:04:13.139 --> 00:04:14.379 Doing hella shots. 63 00:04:14.379 --> 00:04:14.759 30 bottles. 64 00:04:14.780 --> 00:04:16.519 Yeah, the bill is on the jet. I order if 65 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.959 you want to get fucked up. 66 00:04:18.019 --> 00:04:20.639 Tonight is the night. 67 00:04:20.670 --> 00:04:22.930 Quack on gin and juice. 68 00:04:22.990 --> 00:04:25.449 Death sticks and hoes. 69 00:04:25.509 --> 00:04:26.449 Quack on gin and juice. 70 00:04:26.589 --> 00:04:31.610 Death sticks and hoes. Quack on gin and juice. 71 00:04:34.430 --> 00:05:05.220 That sticks and rolls. Thank you. 72 00:05:32.459 --> 00:05:32.959 Thank you. 73 00:05:59.670 --> 00:06:00.300 So so. 74 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:28.990 Thank you. 75 00:08:18.110 --> 00:08:18.629 So so. 76 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:41.269 Thank you. Thank you. 77 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.039 So so. 78 00:11:07.289 --> 00:11:07.610 Thank you. 79 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:34.419 Thank you. 80 00:12:16.710 --> 00:14:09.700 We'll be right back. so so This video is a 81 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:10.519 work of fiction. 82 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:20.320 Any resemblance to anyone, living or dead, is coincidental and unintentional. 83 00:14:39.779 --> 00:14:57.009 What's up, players? We're going to be joined by Tim 84 00:14:57.070 --> 00:15:00.230 Gordons in a minute. Tim Gordons. 85 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:02.620 So so. 86 00:15:24.990 --> 00:15:32.250 Dude trying to call me on freaking facetime in the 87 00:15:32.289 --> 00:15:34.269 middle of a. 88 00:15:37.340 --> 00:15:38.299 Live stream. 89 00:15:55.460 --> 00:15:56.200 Hold on, dude. 90 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:57.419 Hold on. 91 00:16:33.149 --> 00:16:33.590 Thank you. 92 00:17:00.899 --> 00:17:10.069 Welcome, everybody, to The Limit. Borden is about to join. 93 00:17:10.089 --> 00:17:20.410 Dude's still trying to call me on FaceTime, bro. 94 00:17:20.549 --> 00:17:27.000 What are you doing? Tim's trying to call me. Dude, 95 00:17:27.019 --> 00:17:31.890 stop calling on FaceTime. What are you doing? We're trying 96 00:17:31.910 --> 00:17:36.279 to make you famous. Do internet interviews. Make you an 97 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:45.579 internet celebrity, Tim. What are you doing calling me on FaceTime? See, 98 00:17:45.619 --> 00:17:51.609 this is the thing with these Roman Catholics, dog. He 99 00:17:51.650 --> 00:17:54.849 just had to ask Leo what to do. Leo had 100 00:17:54.890 --> 00:17:57.630 to tell him whether he could clock in on the internet. 101 00:17:57.670 --> 00:17:57.809 Yeah. 102 00:17:59.829 --> 00:18:04.450 Yo, I'm just chewing damn caramels. I'm chewing caramels waiting 103 00:18:04.509 --> 00:18:05.779 on this wigger to show up. 104 00:18:07.900 --> 00:18:11.980 Wigger, click the link. Click the link, wigger. Wigger, click 105 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.359 the link. Wigger, click the link. Wigger, click the link. 106 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.319 Yo, I'm just drinking my pre-proteins waiting on your wigger 107 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:29.990 ass to show up. drinking on my vegan pea protein. 108 00:18:34.349 --> 00:18:35.549 Come on, player. Click in. 109 00:18:36.089 --> 00:18:37.049 We waiting on your ass. 110 00:18:37.869 --> 00:18:41.329 We got to start playing some Simon Dixon links to 111 00:18:41.349 --> 00:18:45.710 do some analysis. Some Tucker Corlson's. 112 00:18:46.829 --> 00:18:47.289 Corl. 113 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:48.990 Tucker Corlson. 114 00:18:50.059 --> 00:18:50.539 Corl. 115 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:59.720 Rick Grimes. Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick Grimes with the Wicked rhymes. 116 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:06.099 Rick Grimes on the... My posse's on Broadway. Where you at, 117 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.599 Tim Gordons? Dog, all you gotta do is click the link, bro. 118 00:19:10.660 --> 00:19:12.279 It ain't rocket sciences. 119 00:19:15.089 --> 00:19:15.549 No. 120 00:19:16.650 --> 00:19:21.809 Streamlabs. What the fuck is he talking about? Do things 121 00:19:21.849 --> 00:19:36.000 I'm trying to send him FaceTime links. Field reporter Tim 122 00:19:36.019 --> 00:19:37.559 Gordon on the scoop. 123 00:19:38.809 --> 00:19:41.329 He's got the scoop. He's got the scoop. 124 00:19:41.450 --> 00:19:42.490 He's got the scoop. 125 00:19:43.289 --> 00:19:44.609 Yo, what's up, Tim? 126 00:19:44.630 --> 00:19:47.029 Calling you from the banana farm. I called you from 127 00:19:47.069 --> 00:19:48.609 a million years ago, dog. 128 00:19:48.630 --> 00:19:53.980 Woo, woo, woo. What you doing, dog? 129 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:54.980 That's how this phone rings. 130 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.160 It goes. 131 00:19:59.619 --> 00:20:02.339 You pick it up, and it's Tim Gordon and the 132 00:20:02.420 -->

00:20:03.799 Pope calling in on a three-way. 133 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.000 Yo, here he is. 134 00:20:07.059 --> 00:20:07.779 What's up, dog? 135 00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:08.980 Hey, dude. 136 00:20:09.690 --> 00:20:10.470 Hey, what's up, dog? 137 00:20:11.670 --> 00:20:12.029 What's up? 138 00:20:12.470 --> 00:20:13.130 How's the banana? 139 00:20:15.410 --> 00:20:17.589 Bitch, I was calling you on the banana phone. It goes, 140 00:20:19.299 --> 00:20:19.859 when it rings. 141 00:20:22.500 --> 00:20:23.140 Yo, yo, yo. 142 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:23.940 Okay, let's see. 143 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:24.240 Hold on. 144 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.960 I think we have you on the screen here. Let 145 00:20:25.980 --> 00:20:29.579 me block out Tucker's face here. Let me get Tucker 146 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:34.259 off of the screen. Yeah, what's up? Now we got 147 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:35.720 you on the screen. I'm going to let you go 148 00:20:35.779 --> 00:20:36.480 on the banana phone. 149 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:36.740 Hold on. 150 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:37.619 I'm going to call you back. 151 00:20:37.660 --> 00:20:38.160 Hey, hey. 152 00:20:38.700 --> 00:20:43.069 Hey, girl, I'll call you back later. What's up, man? 153 00:20:43.109 --> 00:20:45.809 How you doing? I'm good. How the hell are you? 154 00:20:46.269 --> 00:20:47.509 Caught you in a goofy mood today. 155 00:20:48.369 --> 00:20:52.529 That's every day, dude. Where you been at? Bitch, where 156 00:20:52.549 --> 00:20:53.069 you been at? 157 00:20:54.069 --> 00:20:57.480 We've been living life, living our best life over here. 158 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.519 And I understand you have been as well. You were 159 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:01.740 on a generational run. 160 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:02.200 For a while there. 161 00:21:02.220 --> 00:21:03.880 For a while? 162 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:04.500 For a while. 163 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.059 Why are you trying to nag me, dude? Why are 164 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:10.880 you trying to nag me? You just got here trying 165 00:21:10.900 --> 00:21:13.039 to nag me. Oh, you were on a generational run 166 00:21:13.059 --> 00:21:15.559 about a generation ago. What happened with. 167 00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:22.500 That? We're very good here in Southern Mississippi. Are you 168 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.849 in Nashville right now? This is Florida, dude. Can you 169 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:27.289 not tell? 170 00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:31.170 Does that look like Nashville, dude? 171 00:21:31.430 --> 00:21:32.849 We're in Florida right now. It does not. 172 00:21:35.980 --> 00:21:39.519 Um, anyway, dude, I'm glad you're, uh, you're back. I'm 173 00:21:39.539 --> 00:21:42.000 glad to have you on, you know, I think, uh, 174 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.140 maybe a year ago we, or maybe two years, we 175 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:48.930 did a pretty in-depth discussion on metaphysics and Aristotle and 176 00:21:49.109 --> 00:21:53.009 overlaps things that we agree on and disagree with. Um, 177 00:21:53.049 --> 00:21:55.849 mainly where we disagree, but, uh, I understand that, um, 178 00:21:55.910 --> 00:21:58.630 you've kind of become hip to the idea, something that 179 00:21:58.730 --> 00:22:01.450 I've support and also, uh, have a version of, which 180 00:22:01.630 --> 00:22:05.069 is kind of a philosophy course. And I know that 181 00:22:05.109 --> 00:22:10.349 you're going to talk about that today. So basically, what 182 00:22:10.890 --> 00:22:14.619 overall is this project? What is your plan? Is it complete? 183 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:15.319 When's it out? 184 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:16.799 Tell us what you have in mind. 185 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:18.599 Yeah, thanks a million. 186 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:23.039 Actually, here, I don't think there's any disagreement between Catholic 187 00:22:23.059 --> 00:22:27.750 and unorthodox on the ethics. The most important secular book 188 00:22:28.150 --> 00:22:31.430 in all the world is Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics. 189 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:37.089 And I've long told my audience this. It's literally the. 190 00:22:37.049 --> 00:22:40.329 One book from the Western canon of philosophy that every 191 00:22:40.670 --> 00:22:45.690 adult human of IQ over 90 ought to read and understand. 192 00:22:45.730 --> 00:22:48.710 And it's not really hard, but it's better to have 193 00:22:48.930 --> 00:22:49.779 guidance going through. 194 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:50.599 And I've taught it before. 195 00:22:50.619 --> 00:22:55.779 If you go to timothyjgordon.com, click classes, we're starting books 196 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.660 one and two out of the 10, they're really chapters, 197 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.660 the 10 chapters of the Nicomachean Ethics. We're doing one 198 00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:03.140 and two next week. And we're going to be done 199 00:23:03.819 --> 00:23:07.349 by Thanksgiving. So if you don't know the Nicomachean Ethics, 200 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:12.710 it's the one book, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, any kind of 201 00:23:12.769 --> 00:23:15.670 self-respecting adult, even if you're not a Christian, it's the 202 00:23:15.769 --> 00:23:18.470 one book of Western philosophy. Even if you're not interested 203 00:23:18.490 --> 00:23:21.099 in philosophy, you should read because it's about human flourishing 204 00:23:21.890 --> 00:23:23.559 and no one can really disagree. 205 00:23:23.579 --> 00:23:27.920 You said this is the book called Nicomachean Ethics. 206 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:29.880 Nicomachean Ethics. 207 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:31.660 Is that Wakanda Ethics? I'm confused. 208 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:33.839 Nicomachean Ethics. Nigga Wakanda ethics. 209 00:23:34.140 --> 00:23:39.920 It's all about getting them green bags, getting the scrilla. 210 00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:43.589 Now this is cool. So this is not metaphysics. This 211 00:23:43.670 --> 00:23:46.869 is something more accessible. You're going to do Nicomachean ethics. 212 00:23:47.190

--> 00:23:51.329 And is this a, like an eight lecture, 12 lecture course? 213 00:23:51.430 --> 00:23:52.529 What's the, what's the whole. 214 00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:55.970 No, it's, so it's a, it's a four lecture course. 215 00:23:56.410 --> 00:23:58.910 Actually we're, we're normally I do it as a 10 216 00:23:58.910 --> 00:24:01.759 lecture course. I've done this in the past. It's on 217 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:07.240 Wednesday nights. And I just said, hey, between Halloween and Thanksgiving, 218 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:10.299 because this is a great way to think about something. 219 00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:13.980 What if you learned the most important book, not the deepest, 220 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:18.589 but the most important for everyday eudaimonia, happiness, for every 221 00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:22.109 single human being between Halloween and Thanksgiving? 222 00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:24.930 So I'm doing two to really it will. 223 00:24:24.869 --> 00:24:27.069 Average two and a half of the 10 books of 224 00:24:27.109 --> 00:24:28.769 the ethics every week. 225 00:24:29.589 --> 00:24:31.819 And people are, you know, I invite them to read it. 226 00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:36.170 But so for next week, if people want to jump in, TimothyJGordon.com, 227 00:24:36.190 --> 00:24:39.849 go to classes, Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, you can have it 228 00:24:40.069 --> 00:24:42.579 basically mastered by Thanksgiving. 229 00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:48.279 So enough time to get in there and priest up 230 00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:51.460 and destroy your uncle at Thanksgiving dinner. Put his ass 231 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:52.019 to shame. 232 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.099 That's right. If he's a Kantian. If he's into a 233 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:01.599 Kantian deontology or he's a Millsian, he believes in consequential. No, really. 234 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.079 It's like, if you're, if you're talking about, you're talking 235 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:04.920 about Kwan Mills. 236 00:25:06.430 --> 00:25:11.890 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm talking about Kwan Mills is Kwan 237 00:25:12.069 --> 00:25:12.990 Kwan Mills. Yeah. 238 00:25:13.849 --> 00:25:16.130 Now you said Mills or something. Are you talking about 239 00:25:16.170 --> 00:25:16.769 Kwan Mills? 240 00:25:17.069 --> 00:25:20.420 It's gotta be, I'm talking about the mills father, son 241 00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:22.200 tag team, uh, WWE. 242 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:22.599 Yeah. 243 00:25:22.619 --> 00:25:25.250 That that's James, you know, Jon Stewart. Well, you don't 244 00:25:25.269 --> 00:25:26.440 like my jokes. You don't get it. 245 00:25:26.430 --> 00:25:28.900 But the whole audience knows who Quan Mills is. So 246 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:32.119 she's trying to sabotage, as usual, what's in Gordon. No, 247 00:25:32.619 --> 00:25:33.279 I'm joking. 248 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.349 I know Quan's nigger McKeon ethics. So you're talking about 249 00:25:36.390 --> 00:25:38.829 Jon Stewart Mills, not Quan Mills. 250

00:25:38.869 --> 00:25:39.069 Go ahead. 251 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.539 Yeah, Jon Stewart, James Mills, you know, they're the kinds 252 00:25:42.579 --> 00:25:45.359 of guys that say the end does justify the means. 253 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.900 And a lot of American, not just boomers, but greatest gen, 254 00:25:50.329 --> 00:25:53.269 you get into the topic of World War II and 255 00:25:53.289 --> 00:25:56.410 the new political consensus after that. They'll all hit you 256 00:25:56.430 --> 00:25:59.789 with this at the Thanksgiving dinner table. Hey, the end 257 00:25:59.829 --> 00:26:05.650 justified the means. We bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Why Nagasaki 258 00:26:06.190 --> 00:26:06.849 and Hiroshima? 259 00:26:07.329 --> 00:26:07.670 Why? 260 00:26:07.930 --> 00:26:08.779 How could that be bad? 261 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:09.339 Who that bitch is? 262 00:26:09.339 --> 00:26:10.319 We saved a million lives. 263 00:26:10.339 --> 00:26:14.059 Who that bitch is? Hiroshima, who that bitch? That's a 264 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.269 gay show? Who that bitch is? 265 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:15.700 I'm talking about. 266 00:26:16.579 --> 00:26:17.539 I'm in a crazy ass mood. 267 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:19.140 Go ahead. No, fuck. 268 00:26:20.569 --> 00:26:20.809 Yeah. 269 00:26:21.029 --> 00:26:24.009 So you're like, no, here's why the end doesn't justify 270 00:26:24.029 --> 00:26:27.829 the means. You can never do wrong so that good 271 00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:30.750 may come of it. And you've got to learn the 272 00:26:30.789 --> 00:26:35.369 Nicomachean ethics to have this conversation, why virtue ethics are 273 00:26:35.410 --> 00:26:38.130 the thing for really any kind of Christian or conservative. 274 00:26:38.750 --> 00:26:39.430 Absolutely agree. 275 00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:44.920 Yeah, I remember reading and enjoying Alasdair MacIntyre quite a 276 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.319 bit when I was in grad school because I had 277 00:26:48.339 --> 00:26:54.160 some really cool classes on the classics, not just Greek 278 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:58.109 writers or Greek classics, but also kind of the classics 279 00:26:58.180 --> 00:27:01.910 of like Virgil's Aeneid and that kind of stuff. And 280 00:27:01.950 --> 00:27:05.059 it overlapped with the idea of virtue ethics. And we 281 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.960 were at the Sophia conference with FDA a couple of 282 00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:11.740 years ago, and there's a great professors and Dr. Sean Stead. 283 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.160 And he did a paper on how St. Ambrose did 284 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:20.599 a brilliant sort of baptizing of the virtue ethics that 285 00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:23.759 you find in the Greeks and particularly in Aristotle. I 286 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.599 think Aristotle is a little more, uh, A little more useful, obviously, 287 00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:31.680 in terms of ethics than Plato or that kind of stuff. 288 00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:33.319 Absolutely. 289 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.299 Not that I– I don't hate Plato or anything like that, 290 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.819 but I think that Aristotle is a lot more useful. 291 00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:40.200 I do. I hate Plato. 292 00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:44.009 I just don't like the undue parity between Plato and 293 00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:47.329 Aristotle for any kind of Christian. I mean Plato you 294 00:27:47.349 --> 00:27:50.950 could say is a little bit important for metaphysics, but 295 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:57.039 whether we're talking metaphysics, physics– the posterior analytics, ethics, politics, 296 00:27:57.140 --> 00:28:00.519 you know, you know how evil Plato's politics are, particularly book, 297 00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:06.109 book five, the Republic Aristotelianism is, um, uh, basically a 298 00:28:06.130 --> 00:28:11.490 spanning rejection of Platonism, just correcting error after error in it. 299 00:28:11.990 --> 00:28:14.910 Well, what do you, uh, just to not to divert 300 00:28:14.950 --> 00:28:18.890 too much, but, um, what's something that you would say 301 00:28:18.970 --> 00:28:22.930 is say part of Aristotle's, you know, view of the 302 00:28:22.990 --> 00:28:27.890 polis or Aristotle's ethics that might be applicable to, say, 303 00:28:27.910 --> 00:28:31.670 the attitudes that we have in terms of the midterms 304 00:28:31.750 --> 00:28:35.589 and what we're doing politically with our ridiculous system? What's 305 00:28:35.650 --> 00:28:38.799 a couple applications that might apply to recent midterm news? 306 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:45.799 Well, what's evergreen is the Aristotelian aphorism that the child 307 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.920 belongs to the father, not to the state. Plato, this 308 00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:52.920 is a correction in book three of Aristotle's Politics, that 309 00:28:53.380 --> 00:28:56.079 Plato thought the child belongs to the state. And it's 310 00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.160 really clear that the child belongs to the state. That 311 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.829 kind of frightening collectivism comes to life. 312 00:29:00.849 --> 00:29:02.930 So you're saying that it doesn't take a village to 313 00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:03.690 raise a child? 314 00:29:04.349 --> 00:29:07.150 I'm suggesting that Hillary might have been wrong there. 315 00:29:07.309 --> 00:29:11.650 Yeah. And Aristotle says as much. So there's a lot, but. 316 00:29:13.009 --> 00:29:15.730 That's a good starting point, is just the child really 317 00:29:15.750 --> 00:29:20.609 does belong to his father. In book five of The Republic, 318 00:29:20.789 --> 00:29:24.849 for instance, Plato is saying that you should take the 319 00:29:24.930 --> 00:29:29.789 children of the natural aristoi away from them. They should 320 00:29:29.829 --> 00:29:32.470 live in a big commune where they start having sex 321 00:29:32.470 --> 00:29:35.759 really young, and it doesn't matter whether you're your gene 322 00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:41.359 mixing or not

because yeah like abstinian ethics yeah yeah 323 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.660 yeah yeah yeah yeah nico nico abstinian ethics right there 324 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.660 yeah no that's that's platonic ethics and and platonic and 325 00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:54.549 remember um this is really important the most famous the 326 00:29:54.589 --> 00:29:58.900 most useful accessible book treatise that Aristotle ever wrote is 327 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.640 the ethics because it simply works. And everyone who reads 328 00:30:02.900 --> 00:30:05.519 all 10 books of the ethics is like, that is 329 00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:06.039 so right. 330 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:07.069 I already knew that. 331 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.609 Now I can explain why you'll never read another book 332 00:30:09.630 --> 00:30:12.490 in philosophy that that's the case for, but he only 333 00:30:12.589 --> 00:30:15.730 wrote the ethics as what he called an introductory work 334 00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:16.769 for the politics. 335 00:30:17.009 --> 00:30:19.460 And no one really, I like the politics. 336 00:30:20.259 --> 00:30:24.460 I believe a second important concept from the politics that 337 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.720 we need to get back to I call it political geography, 338 00:30:27.849 --> 00:30:30.829 is the concept of amity or concord described in the 339 00:30:30.869 --> 00:30:34.710 second book of the politics, which just means no state 340 00:30:35.029 --> 00:30:40.019 should really be bigger than 100,000 citizens because it's all 341 00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:42.599 kind of fake and gay. You believe in diversity if 342 00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:46.799 you believe in a polis of even 100,000 people. Aristotle's like, 343 00:30:47.500 --> 00:30:48.819 where are you going to get a bunch of people 344 00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:51.779 that really act like you, walk like you, talk like you, 345 00:30:51.819 --> 00:30:52.609 believe like you? 346 00:30:53.380 --> 00:30:55.059 No one believes that. And so I say this to 347 00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:01.339 all the national conservatives. Wigxantium? Yeah, yeah, sure. That could 348 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.039 be a little. 349 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.319 We all want Wigger and Wigxantium. That's the thing you 350 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:05.079 don't understand. 351 00:31:06.019 --> 00:31:10.920 Yeah, we all wear Jordan 4s, walk around Wigxantium, you know, 352 00:31:10.980 --> 00:31:13.750 talking about the glory days, the early 90s in the 353 00:31:13.829 --> 00:31:18.730 NBA and shit. But yeah, it's a big pressing issue 354 00:31:18.950 --> 00:31:21.269 that I think is going to become a lot more 355 00:31:21.329 --> 00:31:22.829 relevant in the next decade. 356 00:31:23.630 --> 00:31:25.430 Is this idea of Amity Concord. 357 00:31:25.750 --> 00:31:28.849 We all kind of know this intuitively, this Aristotelian idea 358 00:31:28.910 --> 00:31:31.990 from the politics that if you want to keep your 359 00:31:32.029 --> 00:31:36.250 little

nerdy comic book club super pure, you got to 360 00:31:36.289 --> 00:31:37.759 keep it small. You keep it small to keep it 361 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.500 pure and keep it pure to keep it small. That 362 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.779 is just the idea of Amity and Concord. You can't 363 00:31:43.819 --> 00:31:50.180 have likeness among the Republican politics and Republican citizens without 364 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:51.319 keeping it. 365 00:31:51.750 --> 00:31:54.329 Small, keeping their, their number limited. 366 00:31:56.829 --> 00:32:00.190 Yeah. What, what would you say though, to the history of, 367 00:32:00.789 --> 00:32:02.569 in regard to that? I mean, it seems like that 368 00:32:02.630 --> 00:32:07.589 would make sense in terms of like concentric little, little policies. Um, 369 00:32:08.009 --> 00:32:11.910 but what about Imperial theory, the idea of say a 370 00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:16.019 Byzantium or Holy Roman empire, or, uh, you know, these 371 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.140 older ideas of, of empire, how would that fit with 372 00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:21.259 an Aristotelian analysis? 373 00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:23.990 It's an important question. 374 00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:28.319 And the one time that NJF Fuentes has been on 375 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:33.720 my channel, we were agreeing about everything because he's another Catholic. 376 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:35.099 We agree about most stuff. 377 00:32:35.220 --> 00:32:37.460 But then at the end of our talk, we were like, well, 378 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:38.799 this is going to have to be a to be 379 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.599 continued because I'm, when it comes to political geography, a Jeffersonian, 380 00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:45.700 strict Aristotelian with this set of ideas. 381 00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:48.140 And he's famously a Hamiltonian. 382 00:32:48.180 --> 00:32:52.079 He likes the idea of empire and vast stretches of 383 00:32:52.490 --> 00:32:55.589 you know, a continent-sized republic, which is really a contradiction 384 00:32:55.630 --> 00:32:56.950 in terms. And I was like, you're going to have 385 00:32:56.990 --> 00:32:58.230 to come back on and we're going to have to 386 00:32:58.269 --> 00:33:02.410 do a friendly debate on that thing or a friendly 387 00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:06.160 talk on it. But yeah, and the first question that 388 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:08.259 everyone uses as a test case is. 389 00:33:08.380 --> 00:33:10.359 HRE, like how did the Holy Roman Empire work? 390 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:12.660 And what it turns out is that when you know 391 00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:16.529 anything about the Holy Roman Empire, the police power of 392 00:33:16.609 --> 00:33:20.349 the states was really small. The Holy Roman Empire or 393 00:33:20.430 --> 00:33:25.309 Rome version 1.0 didn't run people's lives it was really 394 00:33:25.529 --> 00:33:29.930 you know little palestine kind of ran itself all rome 395 00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:32.230 did was tax tax and spend. 396 00:33:32.809 --> 00:33:35.349 And um so it was much more like i'm fine. 397 00:33:35.130 --> 00:33:37.539 Which which well which rome are you talking about when 398 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.440 you say holy roman empire you're talking about the like 399 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:43.599 franco latin papal church are you talking about the austro-hungarian 400 00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:47.279 hr holy roman empire are you talking about rome like 401 00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:50.720 historic rome transitioning into eastern rome. 402 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.619 Yeah i'm saying rome 1.0 is rome which you know 403 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:58.440 crumbled in the days of the maturistics but also you 404 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.309 know the the holy roman empire under like the carolingians 405 00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:03.990 and stuff you know that's. 406 00:34:03.890 --> 00:34:07.670 So the western roman empire because there was already an 407 00:34:07.730 --> 00:34:11.570 existing roman empire which is for us byzantium is the 408 00:34:11.630 --> 00:34:14.969 romeo that's the roman empire But. 409 00:34:14.550 --> 00:34:16.050 What I'm saying applies to them, too. 410 00:34:16.269 --> 00:34:17.190 No, absolutely. 411 00:34:17.949 --> 00:34:19.840 I really like the way it applies in the East. 412 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.159 I think it's almost a more ready-mated point. Because the 413 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.070 point I'm making about subsidiarity and Amity Concord is that 414 00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:32.869 Rome didn't mess with anybody like rome the city or 415 00:34:33.010 --> 00:34:36.630 or constant you know certainly right after constantine the the 416 00:34:36.690 --> 00:34:40.769 capital did move to constantinople it didn't tell people how 417 00:34:40.849 --> 00:34:43.250 to live their lives it was it was a tax 418 00:34:43.309 --> 00:34:47.429 and spend power from rome or constantinople it and that's 419 00:34:47.510 --> 00:34:50.369 it everyone else had their you know the palestinians were 420 00:34:50.409 --> 00:34:51.980 the palestinian you know the. 421 00:34:51.949 --> 00:34:54.219 People well they had a very strict gold standard for 422 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.380 a long time and then when it began to crumble 423 00:34:56.420 --> 00:34:59.550 they were practicing the money clipping the All the money 424 00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:00.250 clippers do. 425 00:35:00.269 --> 00:35:00.349 Yeah. 426 00:35:01.710 --> 00:35:03.730 They were doing the money clipping, Tim. I don't know 427 00:35:03.769 --> 00:35:07.309 if you understand money clipping, but this happens towards the 428 00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.929 end of that. So they have a bad monetary policy, 429 00:35:09.969 --> 00:35:14.739 which is actually because what's Aerosol's view of usury? And 430 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.559 I want you to finish your Concord subsidiarity points if 431 00:35:18.579 --> 00:35:19.820 you want to. I'm not trying to cut you off. 432 00:35:19.860 -->

00:35:20.719 It just made me think of that. 433 00:35:22.329 --> 00:35:25.360 Yeah, shekel shaving, the big topic of the day. 434 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.900 Actually, in book five of the Nicomachean Ethics, which is 435 00:35:28.940 --> 00:35:33.079 considered the birthplace of the natural law, it's a little 436 00:35:33.099 --> 00:35:35.400 bit of a stretch, but I think it's a plausible read. 437 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:41.099 Book five on justice, you have a really excellent. 438 00:35:42.309 --> 00:35:46.750 Application, which is demonstrative of how systematic a thinker Aristotle was. 439 00:35:46.809 --> 00:35:49.630 Everything's about the golden mean, right? You're mediating. 440 00:35:50.289 --> 00:35:55.230 Virtue is famously... a golden mean between two vices. There's 441 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:56.989 a vice to the left and a vice to the right, 442 00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:58.869 the vice of deficiency and the vice of excess. And 443 00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:02.030 this is stuff we teach our small kids, uh, when 444 00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:05.780 they're young, but it even applies to money. So money 445 00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:10.039 even mediates between, uh, the payor and the payee. So 446 00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:13.139 even money acts like a golden mean. And Aristotle gives 447 00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:16.289 a really natural account for what, what we would call 448 00:36:16.329 --> 00:36:18.010 a gold standard, like hard money. 449 00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:22.409 It's, it's, um, Pretty fascinating, actually. I don't know if 450 00:36:22.730 --> 00:36:25.090 it would be in. 451 00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:28.260 The politics if he talks about usury. I'll have to 452 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.400 look that up real quick. But he gives a really 453 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.420 natural account for not only what we think of as 454 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.440 the enterprise, properly conceived, but also a gold standard of 455 00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:40.260 hard money in, uh, the latter half of the book 456 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:41.360 five of the ethics. 457 00:36:41.380 --> 00:36:43.320 Yeah. I mean, that makes sense too. I mean, they, 458 00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:47.590 cause they understood, uh, you know, monetary debasement and inflation 459 00:36:47.619 --> 00:36:49.179 in the ancient world. I think a lot of people 460 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.929 don't think that they don't think that they did, but 461 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:54.230 they did. So, you know, the harder the money, the 462 00:36:54.269 --> 00:36:57.389 better it is for the people, but hard money is 463 00:36:57.469 --> 00:37:00.429 not good actually for, uh, the banking power and for 464 00:37:00.469 --> 00:37:02.429 the state. So that's what they tend to, they tend 465 00:37:02.469 --> 00:37:05.530 to favor. you know, the fiat forms of money. But 466 00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:08.449 that's great to hear that. And I think all of these, 467 00:37:09.429 --> 00:37:13.050 I'm just trying to

make the ethics that you're touting 468 00:37:13.110 --> 00:37:16.929 here relevant for today, because people hear this kind of 469 00:37:16.949 --> 00:37:20.409 stuff and they think, well, what does aerosol have to 470 00:37:20.449 --> 00:37:22.690 do with today? Like, why do I need to learn aerosol? 471 00:37:22.969 --> 00:37:24.469 First of all, you need to understand and know the 472 00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:28.469 Western canon of literature to be an educated person. So 473 00:37:28.489 --> 00:37:30.690 you should be familiar with it. Most people are not 474 00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:34.329 familiar with it. I don't think They even taught this 475 00:37:34.690 --> 00:37:38.670 when I was in philosophy class, unless you took philosophy class, right? Like, 476 00:37:38.710 --> 00:37:42.469 so people, people studying humanities, I mean, maybe they heard 477 00:37:42.489 --> 00:37:45.730 about Nicomachean ethics or virtue ethics, but this is very 478 00:37:45.750 --> 00:37:49.590 important because this is, you know, Christian ethics, Christian ethics 479 00:37:49.769 --> 00:37:52.809 is a virtue, virtue ethics. So, um, I'm glad that 480 00:37:52.849 --> 00:37:57.130 you're doing those things very relevant, but, uh, um, So 481 00:37:57.150 --> 00:38:00.070 tell us more about what you're saying with Concord and subsidiarity, 482 00:38:00.110 --> 00:38:02.400 because I think there's a very basic principle. And it 483 00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:06.280 was a big controversy when my sexy necklace fell off here. 484 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.360 I hope you're not distracted with my sexy necklace and 485 00:38:09.380 --> 00:38:10.840 the puka shells. 486 00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:13.920 I'm distracted when you're wearing it. 487 00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:16.059 I know that's what I'm saying. 488 00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:20.340 It's off. It's easier because it's so sexy. 489 00:38:22.530 --> 00:38:24.690 So tell us, first of all, remember when Vance said 490 00:38:24.730 --> 00:38:28.860 something about this basic principle of and everybody freaked out 491 00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:30.840 like this was some weird idea. Like, oh, I'm supposed 492 00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:34.179 to have concern for the people closest to me and 493 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:35.619 then the ring out of that and then the ring 494 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:39.880 out of that. Like, that's how, like, sensible, actual, you know, 495 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.199 love and concern works. And then leftists and weirdos actually 496 00:38:43.219 --> 00:38:45.119 think that, like, no, you're supposed to love the entire 497 00:38:45.179 --> 00:38:47.320 world equally, which is literally impossible. 498 00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:48.260 Right. 499 00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:49.079 Yeah. 500 00:38:49.460 --> 00:38:52.929 Dostoevsky said socialism is best defined as a love of 501 00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:57.139 mankind and in general, in a hatred of mankind in particular. 502 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.150 And it stands to reason it is perfect. Christianity is 503 00:39:01.170 --> 00:39:04.789 the exact opposite. I'm actually doing a stream later today. 504 00:39:04.809 --> 00:39:08.469 I was going to give you a favorable shout out. 505 00:39:08.510 --> 00:39:12.289 Also guys like Andrew Wilson or Joe Enders. I'm doing 506 00:39:12.329 --> 00:39:15.079 a show on nice guys, nice Christian guys, and how 507 00:39:15.139 --> 00:39:16.340 they're no use to anybody. 508 00:39:16.460 --> 00:39:19.050 They're trying to be friends with everyone. And they're kind 509 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:22.440 of part of this extension of the broad proposition. 510 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.679 They're this, Tim. 511 00:39:24.059 --> 00:39:24.380 This. 512 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.309 Yeah, this. But they're not gay. They're like this, but 513 00:39:28.369 --> 00:39:28.849 not gay. 514 00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:33.179 They're like this when it comes that charitable or are 515 00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:37.800 they or are they that's that's part two no but 516 00:39:37.820 --> 00:39:39.260 i mean i i was going to give a favorable 517 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.960 shout literally just about how um Everyone kind of knows 518 00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:45.800 you can't be a friend to all as a. 519 00:39:45.780 --> 00:39:46.599 Friend to none. 520 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.510 Aristotle comes right out of book eight of the Nicomachean Ethics. 521 00:39:49.550 --> 00:39:53.929 Book eight and nine are beautiful teachings on friendship. Oh, 522 00:39:53.949 --> 00:39:56.389 and by the way, before I go away from it, politics, 523 00:39:56.469 --> 00:39:59.630 book one, Aristotle condemns explicitly. 524 00:39:59.730 --> 00:40:03.139 I don't know the politics as well. Usury, he hates it. 525 00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:06.119 He says the most hated sort of money changing. 526 00:40:06.139 --> 00:40:08.280 I thought so. I thought I remember that because I 527 00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:13.280 had a class, a grad class on Aristotle's polis. And 528 00:40:13.340 --> 00:40:15.219 I thought that I remember– I mean it was a 529 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.300 long time ago, but I thought he did condemn that. 530 00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.630 Yeah, for money was intended to be used in exchange, 531 00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:24.010 and that comes right out of Book 5 of the Ethics, 532 00:40:24.389 --> 00:40:28.289 but not to increase at interest. It's like commoditizing a commodity. 533 00:40:28.329 --> 00:40:31.730 It doesn't really work. But I would just. 534 00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:36.449 Say before answering the question about subsidiarity and– The big 535 00:40:36.510 --> 00:40:40.659 question is, is subsidiarity to be paired with Amity or Concord, 536 00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:44.840 or is subsidiarity to be paired with something new, a 537 00:40:44.860 --> 00:40:52.460 neologism called solidarity? And that's another problem I deal with 538 00:40:52.579 --> 00:40:57.099 with the sort of modern popes. But before explaining

that, 539 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.179 I would just say that as a head note to 540 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.050 everything and to taking my class, Aristotle is the most 541 00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:08.380 shocking thinker you'll ever read. Not only did Dante say 542 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.619 he's just the master of those who know, for St. Thomas, 543 00:41:12.139 --> 00:41:18.230 he's the philosopher, but for the Muslims, Jewish Aristotelians, everyone 544 00:41:18.730 --> 00:41:23.449 is just looking at Aristotle. It's like reading someone that 545 00:41:23.690 --> 00:41:29.139 diagnosed everything about today's politics, today's cultural problems, today's family 546 00:41:29.179 --> 00:41:33.360 problems with feminism. And he's literally got it all dialed 547 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.719 up in treatise form, which is very early for its time. 548 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:38.420 It's not like reading an ancient. 549 00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:41.559 You read Plato's Dialogues, and that's kind of what you 550 00:41:41.619 --> 00:41:43.829 think reading ancient literature will be. 551 00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:45.530 It just feels very ancient. 552 00:41:46.010 --> 00:41:50.230 But Aristotle wrote treatises, and his writing is perfect and succinct, 553 00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:54.750 and it's all so applicable. You could apply it against feminism, 554 00:41:54.829 --> 00:41:58.940 against usury. You could apply it against Zionism or against 555 00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:02.920 any form of collectivism. So when it comes to someone 556 00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:07.800 like JD Vance, who's hopping on, you know, the Catholic 557 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.539 train of the last few years, subsidiarity is the idea 558 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:16.139 that to keep the government should be done locally. Basically, 559 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.300 you know, if you're going to go out for dinner 560 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.820 with the wife and you have kids, you can't just 561 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.280 phone in and check on them. You have to have 562 00:42:24.300 --> 00:42:26.909 a babysitter there, you know, the ref in the position 563 00:42:26.929 --> 00:42:28.949 to To make the call is the one that makes 564 00:42:28.989 --> 00:42:30.909 the call. So it's kind of just a natural law 565 00:42:30.969 --> 00:42:34.900 principle that government has to be done locally. And the 566 00:42:34.940 --> 00:42:39.219 extension of this is Amity or Concord. If we're supposed 567 00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:43.139 to like the people that we are in a res 568 00:42:43.179 --> 00:42:47.320 publica with. then you have to, you know, you have 569 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.699 to be alike with them. And so this idea of 570 00:42:49.820 --> 00:42:53.300 opposites attracting Aristotle attacks in both the politics. 571 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.260 You're saying Aristotle is anti-Paula Abdul. So we've been fed 572 00:42:57.300 --> 00:43:02.840 this lie that opposites attract. But you're pitting Paula Abdul 573 00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:03.699 against Aristotle. 574 00:43:04.469 --> 00:43:05.909 Yes, he hated all the Laker girls. 575 00:43:05.949 --> 00:43:09.030 Did you know Paula Abdul is actually an Arab Jewess? 576 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:11.159 Really? 577 00:43:11.179 --> 00:43:13.440 I knew she was Arab. I didn't know she was 578 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:16.860 a Jewess. Yes, she is an Arab Jewess. Just a 579 00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:18.480 schtickle or all the way? 580 00:43:19.619 --> 00:43:22.210 I'm pretty sure she's fully Jewish. 581 00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:26.710 Wow. Abdul, you think Arab. That's interesting. 582 00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:32.130 Well, you think Jay Dyer, you think white guy. I'm 583 00:43:32.190 --> 00:43:37.300 BIPOC as they come, dog. We do have a couple 584 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:38.719 of Super Chats. I don't want to cut you off. 585 00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:41.940 I'm enjoying... uh, what you're saying here. Um, and I 586 00:43:41.980 --> 00:43:45.000 was eating a banana to insult you for that terrible 587 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.199 comment that my generational run is over. 588 00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:49.880 So I didn't say it was over. No, I said 589 00:43:49.900 --> 00:43:50.659 you've been on one. 590 00:43:51.579 --> 00:43:56.239 Well, that suggests past tense. Um, Wigxantium is rising. I 591 00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.909 don't know if you've noticed, but we are rising. We're getting, 592 00:43:59.210 --> 00:44:02.349 we're putting wiggers in government at every level. We are 593 00:44:02.369 --> 00:44:06.289 going to take over. Um, anyway, we got some super chats. 594 00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:09.900 I'm just messing with it. Um, Von D.A. says for $ 10. 595 00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:12.699 And by the way, I want you to keep going 596 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.070 because this is good. And I'm going to have your 597 00:44:14.110 --> 00:44:15.829 links to your course below. 598 00:44:16.650 --> 00:44:16.829 Cool. 599 00:44:16.969 --> 00:44:19.650 How much of a serious player in geopolitics do you 600 00:44:19.670 --> 00:44:24.190 think India is? They have one-fifth of the population. They 601 00:44:24.889 --> 00:44:29.139 have influence in politics, kind of like the way countries 602 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.559 like Russia, China, or Israel do. Shout out to Tim Gordon. 603 00:44:32.739 --> 00:44:37.659 I will be getting him his HRE shirt. Holy Roman 604 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:38.159 Empire shirt. 605 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:38.460 Okay. 606 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:40.059 Yeah. 607 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.199 I mean, I would, I think that that's a good comparison. 608 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.269 I mean, they probably function kind of like a China would, 609 00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:48.110 but probably not as powerful as China, but may the 610 00:44:48.150 --> 00:44:51.329 main resource is their, their population, which they can leverage 611 00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:55.949 as a form of demographic warfare. So

and I think 612 00:44:55.969 --> 00:44:59.070 they have no qualms about using their people as a 613 00:44:59.110 --> 00:45:02.570 form of demographic warfare. I don't think they run things. 614 00:45:02.610 --> 00:45:05.760 They are, they've been very pro pro Zionist for a while. 615 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.059 So And that way, you know, Israel said stuff like, 616 00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:12.500 BB said stuff like, oh, well, if we lose America, 617 00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:15.639 we'll just rely on India because India is on our side. 618 00:45:15.699 --> 00:45:20.340 So I would say comparable in that way. Tuka Troopa, $ 100. 619 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.010 Thank you, Big Fat Super Chat. He says, this is 620 00:45:22.090 --> 00:45:25.929 my favorite collab, unironically. So a lot of people in 621 00:45:25.949 --> 00:45:28.090 this audience love when you come over here, they like 622 00:45:28.130 --> 00:45:31.239 seeing you. me and you doing a collab. We've already 623 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.820 got a nice 1,500 over here in the audience. Guys, 624 00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:35.500 if you would like and share, you can support the 625 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.329 stream by using Super Chats. Super Chats are done through 626 00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:42.190 Streamlabs or natively through YouTube. If you like to use YouTube, 627 00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:44.130 they do take a cut, but you can also avoid 628 00:45:44.170 --> 00:45:47.150 that with the Streamlabs link right there. Now, we're talking 629 00:45:47.170 --> 00:45:51.880 about Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics. We're talking about even his politics, 630 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.519 his view of the polis. You were talking about subsidiarity. 631 00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.320 By the way, I wasn't trying to be something to 632 00:45:57.699 --> 00:46:00.360 JD Vance cheerleader. I don't really follow JD Vance or 633 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:00.840 any of that. 634 00:46:00.739 --> 00:46:04.000 Stuff too, too closely. I know that he has said 635 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:04.880 Catholic things. 636 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.550 You mentioned that he hopped on the Cali train, um, is, 637 00:46:08.619 --> 00:46:10.670 and I'm not, I actually don't know, like, did he 638 00:46:10.710 --> 00:46:12.250 not have a history of that? It was like a 639 00:46:12.309 --> 00:46:14.349 recent sort of, is that something you think he was 640 00:46:14.369 --> 00:46:16.369 just sort of the skin suit he was wearing or 641 00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:18.170 is he, is he actually a lifelong Catholic? 642 00:46:18.190 --> 00:46:20.769 I don't even know. No, three years ago, I think 643 00:46:20.789 --> 00:46:23.130 he turned up and he started hanging out with like Dr. 644 00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:23.869 Scott Hahn. 645 00:46:23.889 --> 00:46:26.510 And I think he saw where the winds were blowing. 646 00:46:26.630 --> 00:46:29.929 He was, he was, he was a evangelical guy, I think. 647 00:46:30.989 --> 00:46:32.719 Oh, interesting. Yeah. 648 00:46:32.739 --> 00:46:36.340 So he knew that, that, you know, apostolic Christianity is 649 00:46:36.420 --> 00:46:37.860 coming back in America. 650 00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:41.800 You know, both, both Orthodoxy and Catholicism. 651 00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:43.619 And it was probably one of these guys that was 652 00:46:43.659 --> 00:46:45.920 sort of deciding between them. 653 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.280 Yeah. He just saw that trend. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 654 00:46:49.860 --> 00:46:52.699 And he's no, he was a never Trumper. Remember? No. 655 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.519 So I'm not, I'm not a Vance guy. I'm sort 656 00:46:54.539 --> 00:46:57.619 of a never Vance guy. Actually I'm with Fuentes on 657 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.159 that one, but yeah. 658 00:47:00.179 --> 00:47:02.400 So the, I mean, just think about it. This is, 659 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:03.860 this is the question I've been dying. 660 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.739 Like I said before, to, to, to talk to Fuentes about, 661 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.940 this is a question I talked to my truly Catholic buddy, 662 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.500 Michael Knowles about, um, we, we get into, get into 663 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:18.519 a deeper, it's like, okay, man, here's why. I'll support 664 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.929 Christian nationalism, but I support a form of Christian nationalism 665 00:47:22.090 --> 00:47:27.869 like originally existed in the 1788 Constitution or the 1791 666 00:47:27.869 --> 00:47:30.590 Bill of Rights, because what a lot of people don't know, 667 00:47:30.610 --> 00:47:34.210 I don't know if you know this, Jay, the original 668 00:47:34.250 --> 00:47:38.420 First Amendment meant that Congress was not allowed to disestablish 669 00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:42.179 the nine out of 13 state establishments of religion. And 670 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.079 everyone kind of expected that 12 or 13 of the 671 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:44.920 13 states would have their own. 672 00:47:47.170 --> 00:47:52.030 Establishment, uh, of religion. So for, until. 673 00:47:52.190 --> 00:47:54.469 I've heard this, you would know way more about this 674 00:47:54.510 --> 00:47:56.150 than me. Cause this is, you know, you know, a 675 00:47:56.179 --> 00:47:57.539 lot about this area. I don't know a whole lot 676 00:47:57.579 --> 00:47:59.579 about it, but I remember when I was at even 677 00:47:59.619 --> 00:48:02.119 my reform circles, I had a reform pastor that was 678 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.199 very into Christian nationalism, reconstructionism, and he would make these 679 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.409 kinds of arguments. In fact, he wrote a book about 680 00:48:08.510 --> 00:48:11.469 the Hebrew Republic. So he was arguing back then that, that, uh, 681 00:48:11.530 --> 00:48:12.110 he thought. 682 00:48:11.929 --> 00:48:15.579 That the old Testament was a Republic. Um, I'm not 683 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:16.239 sure I believe that. 684 00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.280 But

anyway, he was then applying that to sort of 685 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.780 what the founders had in mind, and the idea was 686 00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:26.929 the decentralized model that they had meant that the states 687 00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:30.250 could in fact be kind of mini little Christian nation states. 688 00:48:31.230 --> 00:48:37.090 Well, they actually were. It's not disputable. 689 00:48:37.130 --> 00:48:39.900 The proposition the First Amendment stood for is Congress shall 690 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.699 make no law respecting an establishment of religion, so it 691 00:48:42.739 --> 00:48:48.860 meant it can't disestablish The state establishments, they were Congregationalist, Covenant, 692 00:48:49.619 --> 00:48:52.420 Protestant in the North, and they were like Anglicans in 693 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:56.860 the South. And everyone expected like 12 of the 13 694 00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:59.349 to have their own. It was a state police measure. 695 00:48:59.489 --> 00:49:02.230 It was a police power of the state decision. And 696 00:49:02.289 --> 00:49:06.369 it was that way until 1947, until a bunch of 697 00:49:06.389 --> 00:49:08.309 Freemasons on the Supreme Court. 698 00:49:09.699 --> 00:49:13.019 Said that the First Amendment meant the dead opposite. That's 699 00:49:13.059 --> 00:49:13.500 the empowerment. 700 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.059 It's right around the time of the establishment of the 701 00:49:15.099 --> 00:49:17.349 nation state of Israel, too, with the UN. 702 00:49:17.389 --> 00:49:18.030 Interesting timing. 703 00:49:18.050 --> 00:49:19.869 Look at all the shit that happened. 704 00:49:20.139 --> 00:49:24.139 Schizo there but yeah 47 or 48 a lot of 705 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.719 crazy stuff like that happened right around balfour so um 706 00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:31.800 yeah absolutely but so this well that's right after world 707 00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:34.760 war ii so there's a lot of You know, World 708 00:49:34.780 --> 00:49:36.539 War II had a lot of mileage behind. 709 00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:40.599 It in terms of like moral sort of blackmailing of everybody, right? Oh, 710 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:48.469 anything that was associated even loosely with German, Japanese, you know, fascism, monarch, 711 00:49:48.570 --> 00:49:52.110 even monarchism. Oh, that's all still fascist. Like everything is fascist, right? 712 00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:54.610 So anyway, go ahead. 713 00:49:54.630 --> 00:49:55.070 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 714 00:49:55.110 --> 00:49:57.889 Holy First Reich. The First Reich, you know, is the 715 00:49:57.929 --> 00:50:00.420 Holy Roman Emperor. empire. 716 00:50:00.659 --> 00:50:03.559 And well, again, like he said, he wanted, yeah, he won. 717 00:50:03.579 --> 00:50:06.559 There was first Rome. Uh, and then second row was Byzantium, 718 00:50:06.579 --> 00:50:09.179 which failed and he wanted the new, the Reich is 719 00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:09.900 the third Rome. 720 00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:11.280 Yeah. 721 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:13.019 Yeah. 722 00:50:13.059 --> 00:50:16.400 So, um, it's, it's really important to understand that what 723 00:50:16.460 --> 00:50:20.159 I'm selling, what I call myself a Christian nationalist, but 724 00:50:20.219 --> 00:50:22.019 of the federalist. 725 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:22.539 States, right? Sort. 726 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.119 All I want is for, for states to go back 727 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:28.820 to being really, really, really, really powerful. Like they were, 728 00:50:30.090 --> 00:50:33.150 maybe even more so under the Articles of Confederation, but 729 00:50:33.210 --> 00:50:37.409 even after the Constitution, states were allowed to be an 730 00:50:37.449 --> 00:50:40.889 established Christianity, and they had all sorts of powers, and 731 00:50:40.909 --> 00:50:43.130 they were much closer to the mark. There were still 732 00:50:44.070 --> 00:50:48.000 more than 100,000 citizens populating each of the United States, 733 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.300 but they were closer to the mark. When you consider 734 00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:56.460 what Aristotle says, 100,000 citizens is too much, because then 735 00:50:56.500 --> 00:51:00.099 you're not going to be like your neighbors. Um, you're 736 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.199 not going to be like the fellow citizens and it's 737 00:51:02.260 --> 00:51:06.300 not a true Republic. It just means we fail in a, 738 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.719 in such devastatingly large scale, how, how badly we fail 739 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.769 that it's like most States wouldn't pass the subsidiarity test 740 00:51:16.389 --> 00:51:20.690 by Aristotle's test. Um, let alone all 50 States, the 741 00:51:20.730 --> 00:51:26.530 big queer Leviathan continent size, third of a billion people monster. 742 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:29.750 that is the United States. This is really where I 743 00:51:29.789 --> 00:51:34.969 challenge national conservatives. And this is where Aristotle challenges national conservatives. 744 00:51:35.070 --> 00:51:38.239 It's just like, dude, we all laugh at diversity. It's 745 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.739 not our strength. You know, like we tell everyone and 746 00:51:41.780 --> 00:51:46.539 everyone mocks it. You know, my buddy Fuentes and my 747 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.929 buddy Knowles are both guys that mock it, but both 748 00:51:50.010 --> 00:51:53.449 believe in the kind of imperial version of America. I'm like, look, 749 00:51:54.170 --> 00:51:57.500 if you're larger than how many dudes would I want 750 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.820 to live in an actual republic with where we actually 751 00:52:01.940 --> 00:52:04.119 look at the world the same way? I don't know, 752 00:52:04.699 --> 00:52:09.460 maybe 500, 1,000. And this is Aristotle's point. You believe 753 00:52:09.500 --> 00:52:13.480 in diversity if you believe in a continent-sized republic. 754 00:52:13.659 --> 00:52:16.719 Why is globalism bad? Because it's

all... What about. 755 00:52:17.300 --> 00:52:20.059 I think Seamus Coughlin made this point really starkly on 756 00:52:20.099 --> 00:52:24.079 a stream we did. So If there's two hemispheres and 757 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.139 there's two world governments, is that better? You know, just 758 00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.820 because you divided it in half? No, the point is 759 00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:36.510 you're violating subsidiarity and you're violating Amity and Concord. If 760 00:52:36.710 --> 00:52:41.610 your political, your governing political sovereignty and boundaries is any 761 00:52:41.670 --> 00:52:47.329 bigger than what's natural, you know, where you're like, like 762 00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:51.630 attracts like. So it doesn't have to be a globe-sized 763 00:52:51.690 --> 00:52:54.550 government to be evil it could be four governments we 764 00:52:54.570 --> 00:52:59.719 have basically a hemisphere-sized republic in scare quotes and that's 765 00:52:59.820 --> 00:53:03.420 that's just as wrong as global government according to aristotle. 766 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:10.030 And is that because it violates that principle of what's 767 00:53:10.489 --> 00:53:14.630 natural in the sense of the limits of locality like 768 00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:18.570 is that so you're saying that yeah yeah okay. 769 00:53:18.429 --> 00:53:21.030 I mean It's called virtual representation. 770 00:53:21.090 --> 00:53:24.920 So if you read Federalist number 10, you know, the 771 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:29.559 famous Federalist papers that everyone gets brainwashed with in like 772 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.320 eighth grade or ninth grade, they'll have you read Federalist 10, 773 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:37.650 probably Federalist 39, maybe Federalist 78, the only one by 774 00:53:37.690 --> 00:53:43.369 Hamilton that most people have read. They're all, they're basically 775 00:53:43.590 --> 00:53:48.659 arguing against Aristotelianism, specifically out of the mouth of Montesquieu, 776 00:53:48.699 --> 00:53:52.460 who is a very strict Aristotelian. And Montesquieu was saying 777 00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:57.619 a few things. Checks without balances, meaning you should not 778 00:53:57.659 --> 00:54:02.219 have overlapping powers between the three branches. And the big 779 00:54:02.340 --> 00:54:05.469 Federalists hated that. Madison hated that. He wanted to give 780 00:54:05.989 --> 00:54:09.130 legislative powers to the executive and the judiciary. He wanted 781 00:54:09.150 --> 00:54:12.849 to give judicial powers to the executive and the legislator. Um, 782 00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:16.110 and Montesquieu said no. And that was a very Montesquieu 783 00:54:16.130 --> 00:54:18.409 was following Aristotle on, on the three powers. 784 00:54:18.570 --> 00:54:23.619 Each branch should do only it's kind of thing. But also, um, 785 00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:26.139 Montesquieu is like, republics have to be small. 786 00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.539 If you want small government or

limited government, you have 787 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.800 to have limited landmass. 788 00:54:30.860 --> 00:54:34.420 That's the basic first rule of what I call political geography. 789 00:54:35.099 --> 00:54:36.679 And it's Montesquieu saying it. 790 00:54:37.179 --> 00:54:40.829 And in Federalist number 10, probably the most famous Federalist 791 00:54:40.869 --> 00:54:45.679 paper of all, Madison makes this argument that you'll hear 792 00:54:45.699 --> 00:54:49.920 people brainlessly repeat, but it doesn't make any sense. It's 793 00:54:49.940 --> 00:54:53.760 an argument against why that's not true. That small republics 794 00:54:54.619 --> 00:54:57.320 per door and last a thousand years that the Swiss 795 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.250 Cantons lasted about 900 years. Venice is a little Republic 796 00:55:01.289 --> 00:55:05.050 lasted 1100 years. The English Republic lasted about a thousand 797 00:55:05.090 --> 00:55:09.429 years before it became, um, An empire and died. Empires 798 00:55:09.469 --> 00:55:11.199 are the boneyards of civilization. 799 00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:14.300 I know that, but also, well, I think there's different 800 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.179 things going on. Like from our perspective, the reason Byzantium 801 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:22.099 was so successful ultimately because it's, you know, the longest 802 00:55:22.260 --> 00:55:28.300 lasting empire is because of the faith. You have a. 803 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.880 Common faith that's maintained. That's kind of. 804 00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:36.519 The backbone that's deifying or raising, you know, the natural 805 00:55:36.619 --> 00:55:39.849 order that's there. But then if the faith falls apart, 806 00:55:40.190 --> 00:55:43.130 then it's going to be subjected to all the same 807 00:55:43.389 --> 00:55:46.909 sort of end-of-life cycles that empires run into. This is 808 00:55:46.949 --> 00:55:49.739 something that Spengler talks about where you have this sort 809 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.260 of death. After the flourishing, you have this sort of 810 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.340 decline and then the death of the organism almost. And 811 00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.340 then he talks about the same patterns that you see 812 00:55:59.420 --> 00:56:03.920 of like, the foreign groups come in, the money's debased, 813 00:56:04.539 --> 00:56:08.219 the culture-bearing elites become degenerate, all the same patterns that 814 00:56:08.260 --> 00:56:11.969 we see. And then that new group takes over. And 815 00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:15.570 he even wrote, Spangler wrote a book about how the 816 00:56:15.590 --> 00:56:19.409 white man's technology would be taken over by the brown 817 00:56:19.449 --> 00:56:21.550 man and used against him. Isn't that crazy? That was 818 00:56:22.090 --> 00:56:26.599 super prophetic. That is. I've heard that before. Yeah, so 819 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.400 what I'm saying is that where I'm going with all 820 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.889 this is, I think one of the key issues with 821 00:56:32.010 --> 00:56:38.230 like America is it's such a weird propositional classical liberal 822 00:56:38.349 --> 00:56:40.989 idea of what a quote nation is that it's not 823 00:56:41.050 --> 00:56:44.380 really a nation. I've been doing this podcast series with 824 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:48.619 the guy. He's like the biggest Russian philosophy guy, politics 825 00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.360 guy in Russia. His name's Pavel Shalin. And we've filmed 826 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.019 11 episodes of a podcast and we've been going through 827 00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:59.360 this whole vantage point of Russian geopolitics versus American history 828 00:56:59.380 --> 00:57:03.550 and geopolitics. And, he's making an argument that's interesting that you, 829 00:57:03.750 --> 00:57:08.449 that America doesn't have its national identity because not only 830 00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:11.969 because it's sort of an enlightenment project, but it also doesn't, 831 00:57:12.050 --> 00:57:20.360 doesn't explicitly clearly have a, an apostolic liturgical jurisdictional sort 832 00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.900 of setting. And he argues that that's very important for 833 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.179 the biblical idea of a Christian being nation or an ethnos. 834 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.210 For example, the Armenians, right? The Armenians, they're the first 835 00:57:33.250 --> 00:57:38.269 Christian nation state, right? And their grouping is both ethnological, 836 00:57:38.369 --> 00:57:43.880 but also liturgical, also theology, ideology at the same time. 837 00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.659 They're actually beginning to lose their whole nation state idea 838 00:57:48.860 --> 00:57:51.019 because the EU is making massive. 839 00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:52.159 Moves against Armenia. 840 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.840 So he's using that as an example, but it's comparable 841 00:57:55.909 --> 00:58:00.730 to America as, number one, a weird nation state that 842 00:58:00.789 --> 00:58:05.920 then morphs into this bizarre empire. But there's no cohesive 843 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:13.139 idea or beyond idea heritage people group that actually is 844 00:58:13.260 --> 00:58:17.500 or unifies what America is. I mean, you could say, well, 845 00:58:17.619 --> 00:58:22.380 it's these founding heritage Americans, Western Europeans or whatever, I 846 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.760 understand that, but I mean, you need more than just 847 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:27.840 a heritage or a lineage to have what a quote 848 00:58:27.900 --> 00:58:31.300 nation state is prior to the enlightenment. It's not just 849 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.159 a collection of people who agreed to an idea. So 850 00:58:34.179 --> 00:58:39.409 long story short is I think you're right. That empire 851 00:58:39.489 --> 00:58:42.369 has a problem. There's a great book on this by 852 00:58:42.809 --> 00:58:45.989 Eric Wahlberg. He's, he wrote a book called postmodern

imperialism. 853 00:58:46.070 --> 00:58:47.869 It's a really, really good book. We did analysis of it, 854 00:58:47.869 --> 00:58:50.329 I think five or six years ago, but He argues 855 00:58:50.369 --> 00:58:52.510 that empires get really big and then they sort of 856 00:58:52.550 --> 00:59:01.940 like burn themselves out because they require such heavy, for example, 857 00:59:01.980 --> 00:59:04.820 we're doing the history of Byzantine intelligence right now in 858 00:59:04.860 --> 00:59:09.969 my book club. And the empires of history have had 859 00:59:10.090 --> 00:59:14.539 vast intelligence networks. They're necessary to run the empire. So 860 00:59:14.900 --> 00:59:18.460 these are factors that are problems for empire that America 861 00:59:18.500 --> 00:59:21.320 has like times 20, but we don't even have like 862 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:22.460 the unifying. 863 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.119 Faith of a Byzantine empire. 864 00:59:24.179 --> 00:59:26.869 So it's really bizarre how And I don't know what 865 00:59:26.929 --> 00:59:29.409 the answer is for this country. I think maybe we're 866 00:59:29.429 --> 00:59:32.440 in some kind of accelerationism that can't be stopped. I apologize. 867 00:59:32.460 --> 00:59:34.980 I'm rambling, but chime in. I agree with all this. 868 00:59:35.260 --> 00:59:35.579 I agree. 869 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:39.039 I mean, I think I think I'm guessing we also 870 00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:43.860 agree that it's you need a unifying government. faith meaning 871 00:59:43.900 --> 00:59:47.019 more than just Protestant book club ism. You need like 872 00:59:47.059 --> 00:59:51.030 a liturgical unifying idea, but you also need kinship groups. 873 00:59:51.130 --> 00:59:52.590 You need an ethnos. All those things. 874 00:59:52.929 --> 00:59:56.289 And, and, but, but when, when the country is from 875 00:59:56.329 --> 00:59:59.710 sea to shining sea, you know, 3000 miles, 3,100 miles 876 00:59:59.750 --> 01:00:02.269 from coast to coast, you're not going to populate that 877 01:00:02.409 --> 01:00:05.889 with a third of a billion people that are of 878 01:00:05.929 --> 01:00:09.920 the same kinship group, or maybe a couple core kinship groups, 879 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:13.789 I think would be fine. and everyone of the same 880 01:00:14.530 --> 01:00:18.389 faith tradition, liturgically speaking. It's just not possible. That's why 881 01:00:19.510 --> 01:00:25.179 Aristotle believes that so much comes down to just what 882 01:00:25.219 --> 01:00:29.260 the Germans will call Dasein, being there. So it's actually, 883 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.320 Aristotle doesn't use the term subsidiarity. Pope Pius XI is 884 01:00:34.340 --> 01:00:37.079 the one that coined the term, but he uses the 885 01:00:37.139 --> 01:00:42.409 pairing of Amity and Concord to describe subsidiarity, Because it's 886 01:00:42.449 --> 01:00:46.820 just a natural law principle. It's like, for Aristotle, government 887 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:52.400 happening by a different kinship group from far away. 888 01:00:53.380 --> 01:00:54.539 Washington, D.C. 889 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.800 Telling Honolulu, Hawaii that they can't consume their own wheat 890 01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:00.019 in World War II. 891 01:01:00.059 --> 01:01:02.300 You know, famous case called Wickard v. Filburn. 892 01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:04.690 You can't consume your own wheat. You have to sell it. 893 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.659 It violates the natural law. It just violates the rule 894 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679 of nature. Same thing as If there's three refs in 895 01:01:11.699 --> 01:01:14.469 a basketball game and there's a close, a player nearly 896 01:01:14.530 --> 01:01:17.289 stepped out of bounds, the guy that needs to make 897 01:01:17.329 --> 01:01:19.530 the call is the ref that's the line judge that's 898 01:01:19.570 --> 01:01:23.670 right there. If some ref overturned the line judge from 899 01:01:23.730 --> 01:01:27.050 across the court, it's like you literally, as a rule 900 01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:30.210 of nature, you can't even see that. Vision doesn't even 901 01:01:30.369 --> 01:01:34.090 exist that way in nature. And that's what's so amazing 902 01:01:34.150 --> 01:01:37.650 about Aristotle. He's so systematic as a philosopher when you're 903 01:01:37.670 --> 01:01:40.699 doing his very, very hard stuff like the metaphysics. or 904 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.440 even the de animus quite challenging to do properly, or 905 01:01:44.460 --> 01:01:47.860 you're doing as easier stuff like the ethics and the politics, 906 01:01:48.110 --> 01:01:49.320 which are supposed to be a couplet. 907 01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.590 Um, it's all systematic. It's all, you know, Fusus first 908 01:01:53.730 --> 01:01:54.610 nature first. 909 01:01:55.429 --> 01:01:59.590 And what's, it turns out, you know, secular humanists will 910 01:01:59.610 --> 01:02:03.130 say shit like, Oh, Christians are so weird. You guys 911 01:02:03.190 --> 01:02:07.389 just don't abide by your natural principles. Aristotle takes that 912 01:02:07.630 --> 01:02:10.110 and turns it on its head and says, no, no, no. 913 01:02:10.150 --> 01:02:13.030 What's natural for a man, a man is a rational 914 01:02:13.090 --> 01:02:17.070 animal is actually to bound that function. And, and, and yeah, 915 01:02:17.110 --> 01:02:20.760 it's actually very natural for a Buffalo to lay pipe 916 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.539 and go around and inseminate every woman, Buffalo around female 917 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:25.219 Buffalo around. 918 01:02:25.619 --> 01:02:26.460 It's not natural. 919 01:02:26.500 --> 01:02:29.719 You're speaking coded in code language about me, right? 920 01:02:30.900 --> 01:02:33.460 Well, I'm trying to intervene on behalf of a friend. 921 01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:37.949 Oh, okay. Okay. You're inseminating, you're inseminating Buffalo females. 922 01:02:38.469 --> 01:02:42.869 Um, Oh, damn. I thought I was finally getting out 923

01:02:42.889 --> 01:02:44.769 of the neg zone and then I'm back in the 924 01:02:44.809 --> 01:02:47.050 neg zone. Damn, dude. I'm in the full diss zone. 925 01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:48.610 I'm in the bestiality zone, bro. 926 01:02:49.289 --> 01:02:54.340 Whoa, dude. I'm just talking to someone like you. You 927 01:02:54.380 --> 01:02:56.239 have some hilarious, really. 928 01:02:56.059 --> 01:03:00.280 Insightful spots in our Candace Owens distributed movie, What a 929 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:00.719 Woman Is. 930 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:03.699 I laugh every time. Me and Steph laugh every time. 931 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:06.039 They put me in there because I'm the e-diva. I 932 01:03:06.179 --> 01:03:09.769 am the archetype of what a damn diva is. You're the, 933 01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:12.500 you're the, you're the chick magnet. Now you're making fun 934 01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.500 of red pill guys. And, and, um, I forget what 935 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.039 you said. You use, you use like a, you. 936 01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:21.920 Know, row or, you know, be rare, be raw and be, 937 01:03:22.019 --> 01:03:22.840 I forget what the third. 938 01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:26.440 Oh, that was that Wes, uh, that, that giant screaming 939 01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:30.300 baby guy. That was the prison, the giant prison screaming 940 01:03:30.340 --> 01:03:33.239 baby man. Wes, Wes Watson. That was his name. 941 01:03:33.380 --> 01:03:34.280 Yes. Yes. 942 01:03:34.539 --> 01:03:34.760 Yeah. 943 01:03:35.329 --> 01:03:38.340 You have rare, raw, and... Oh, it's ripped rare and... 944 01:03:38.510 --> 01:03:41.960 Ripped rare and raw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's funny. 945 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.480 We laugh every time we've seen it. And it's like, no, 946 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.920 there's nothing wrong with that. 947 01:03:47.179 --> 01:03:48.480 But it's actually. 948 01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:53.219 What's immoral for a human being is not immoral for 949 01:03:53.260 --> 01:03:55.400 a lion. If you fall in a cage at the 950 01:03:55.420 --> 01:03:57.909 zoo and the lion eats you, that's not immoral. 951 01:03:58.110 --> 01:03:59.630 That's not vicious. It's not a vice. 952 01:04:00.349 --> 01:04:03.130 But for a human being who's a rational animal, We're 953 01:04:03.150 --> 01:04:05.679 talking about what's good for you or what's natural for 954 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.699 you is to have families. Monogamy is actually good for humans, 955 01:04:09.739 --> 01:04:14.320 and you can sociologically demonstrate that Aristotle's right because if 956 01:04:14.340 --> 01:04:17.380 human beings just lay pipe and don't have families and 957 01:04:17.619 --> 01:04:20.449 men have kids with a bunch of different women, poverty 958 01:04:20.489 --> 01:04:24.429 goes up, depression goes up, suicide goes up, crime rate 959 01:04:24.469 --> 01:04:25.050 goes up. 960 01:04:25.070 --> 01:04:28.389 We have Islamic countries that don't do the best. 961 01:04:29.219 --> 01:04:33.639 Yeah, just like Sudan or like Inglewood. African countries have it. 962 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:34.559 Yeah. 963 01:04:35.500 --> 01:04:40.159 So Aristotle, he's the philosopher for a reason. He's the 964 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:42.760 master of those who know for a reason because it 965 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:49.050 sounds like someone that's writing today about our problems from 2,300 966 01:04:49.050 --> 01:04:52.429 years ago. He's just more elegant, and it's formulated more 967 01:04:52.469 --> 01:04:57.099 like an aphorism. But no one has ever studied– the 968 01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.269 Nicomachean ethics and not gotten a lot out of it. 969 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.619 How to be a better friend, books eight and nine. 970 01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:06.030 How to quickly develop good habits, books one and two. 971 01:05:06.139 --> 01:05:10.570 What true happiness is versus pleasure, book three. Books four 972 01:05:10.610 --> 01:05:14.190 and five, the moral virtues. Book six, prudence, the one 973 01:05:14.289 --> 01:05:17.380 intellectual virtue. There are five intellectual virtues, but only one 974 01:05:17.420 --> 01:05:18.840 matters for what kind of person. 975 01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:20.599 You are, whether you'll get into heaven. 976 01:05:21.340 --> 01:05:25.829 So It's just– there's nothing comparable in terms of value. 977 01:05:25.989 --> 01:05:29.329 And I'm offering this class because I thought, hey, sometime 978 01:05:29.369 --> 01:05:31.889 before the end of the year, before Thanksgiving, you can 979 01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:34.949 master the most important secular book, not the Bible or 980 01:05:35.010 --> 01:05:38.159 not commentaries on the Bible. But outside of that, it's 981 01:05:38.179 --> 01:05:40.400 the most important secular book you could ever read. And 982 01:05:40.460 --> 01:05:42.320 if you can do it in a month with me, 983 01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:45.199 with a guy who spent his academic career studying Aristotle. 984 01:05:45.300 --> 01:05:48.170 I might actually take that course because it's been– I 985 01:05:48.210 --> 01:05:51.250 was probably– it was probably 2006 when I was an 986 01:05:51.309 --> 01:05:53.309 undergrad and I had Nick and my key and ethics. 987 01:05:53.349 --> 01:05:55.110 So I might, I might like to brush up on that. 988 01:05:55.130 --> 01:05:57.309 Cause I remember those a few years ago on YouTube, 989 01:05:57.329 --> 01:06:00.630 there was always the ads for, uh, Hillsdale college was 990 01:06:00.690 --> 01:06:02.829 doing a whole course on Nick and my key and ethics. 991 01:06:03.429 --> 01:06:06.130 Come on, you guys, obviously Tim would be a better 992 01:06:06.190 --> 01:06:09.230 person to take that course from than some goober from, 993 01:06:09.710 --> 01:06:11.269 even if they're like sort of right. 994 01:06:11.130 --> 01:06:13.750 Wing ish, I don't know whatever they are, but Straussian. 995 01:06:13.829 --> 01:06:13.969 Yeah. 996 01:06:14.010 --> 01:06:14.849 I'd

rather have it. 997 01:06:14.889 --> 01:06:16.570 I don't even know what they, but yeah, it'd be, 998 01:06:16.610 --> 01:06:19.079 be cooler to have it with Tim. Um, Just out 999 01:06:19.139 --> 01:06:24.159 of curiosity, I read this book in 2000, I want 1000 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.019 to say maybe 89, somewhere in there. Are you familiar 1001 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:30.760 with Yawkey's Imperium? 1002 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.030 I am familiar with other, Stanley Yawkey's Imperium. 1003 01:06:38.070 --> 01:06:41.670 No, no, this is Francis Parker Yawkey's book Imperium. 1004 01:06:42.250 --> 01:06:43.329 Oh, no, I don't know that. 1005 01:06:43.369 --> 01:06:47.219 It's an infamous no-no text. But it's a really interesting 1006 01:06:47.260 --> 01:06:51.179 text that is probably the most recent, I would say, 1007 01:06:51.599 --> 01:07:00.099 20th century significant defense of, like, Imperium geopolitics. 1008 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.059 It's interesting. That's all I'll say. I don't agree with 1009 01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:02.590 everything in it. 1010 01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:06.300 And I'm not saying that to, like, derail the conversation back. 1011 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:09.519 No. What makes it a notary text? 1012 01:07:09.539 --> 01:07:12.320 Well, for a time, he was in the circles of 1013 01:07:12.409 --> 01:07:18.469 tiny mustache man. He gets sort of like a Heidegger 1014 01:07:18.510 --> 01:07:22.369 type of person who's in those circles and then gets 1015 01:07:22.409 --> 01:07:27.369 disillusioned eventually with that, but still writes about the idea 1016 01:07:27.630 --> 01:07:31.989 of Imperium as geopolitical model. Probably the best part of 1017 01:07:32.030 --> 01:07:33.829 the book, though, is actually the first, I would say, 1018 01:07:33.829 --> 01:07:39.190 300 pages. He basically just does this savage critique of 1019 01:07:39.989 --> 01:07:41.719 the people that he sees as sort of like the 1020 01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:46.309 key figures of modernity. Particularly the 20th century. And he 1021 01:07:46.369 --> 01:07:49.389 sees that basically the 20th century and the two world 1022 01:07:49.429 --> 01:07:53.650 wars couldn't have happened without Marx, Freud, and Darwin. He 1023 01:07:53.690 --> 01:07:59.440 sees those figures as really the spirit of the age, 1024 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:02.159 the figures of the zeitgeist. And so it's a lot 1025 01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:06.900 of interesting analysis of that, as well as international usury 1026 01:08:06.940 --> 01:08:11.309 and finance being a key player. Um, he talks a 1027 01:08:11.349 --> 01:08:14.349 lot about nobility, uh, the role that nobility play a 1028 01:08:14.510 --> 01:08:19.310 natural aristocracy culture bearers he talks about. So there's a 1029 01:08:19.350 --> 01:08:22.369 lot of really interesting stuff in that book that I think, uh, 1030 01:08:22.710 --> 01:08:26.109 it's just, it gets overlooked because of the associations. Probably 1031 01:08:26.149 --> 01:08:28.039 people do the same thing with Heidegger, right? Oh, he's bad. 1032 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:29.579 Cause he had this period where he was, you know, 1033 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:30.739 in tiny mustache man. 1034 01:08:30.779 --> 01:08:33.500 But, um, what do you, what do you think of Heidegger? 1035 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.319 I'm not trying to derail, but I, I, um, I, 1036 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.260 you know, I had a, uh, I have strong opinions 1037 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:38.720 on Heidegger. 1038 01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:41.619 I had one class on, I had one class on 1039 01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.760 Husserl and then had another class on the rest of 1040 01:08:43.779 --> 01:08:49.060 the phenomenologists, including Heidegger. And I was under, I went 1041 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:52.699 to some lectures under Dermot Moran, who's like the top 1042 01:08:52.739 --> 01:08:56.409 sort of Heideggerian phenomenologist guy. So I, I mean, I'm 1043 01:08:56.470 --> 01:08:58.189 not a master of it. I've not spent a whole 1044 01:08:58.210 --> 01:09:01.109 lot of time in it. Um, um but I think 1045 01:09:01.130 --> 01:09:03.649 that there's insights you know life being and all that 1046 01:09:03.670 --> 01:09:04.630 stuff with Dasein is. 1047 01:09:04.609 --> 01:09:07.369 Cool but I've not put a whole lot of time 1048 01:09:07.430 --> 01:09:09.270 into like being in time. 1049 01:09:08.909 --> 01:09:11.869 And I don't know enough about it really to say 1050 01:09:11.949 --> 01:09:14.180 I mean we actually we spent more time on Husserl 1051 01:09:14.189 --> 01:09:18.859 than we did on Heidegger but I thought Heidegger's critique 1052 01:09:18.899 --> 01:09:20.140 and kind of the way that he made fun of 1053 01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:22.779 Husserl was pretty accurate where he was like the whole 1054 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:25.600 class spent a whole, Husserl had a whole class been 1055 01:09:25.619 --> 01:09:29.760 like an entire semester staring at a mailbox to analyze 1056 01:09:29.779 --> 01:09:32.649 all the different horizons of the object. And he's like, 1057 01:09:32.699 --> 01:09:34.289 and he spent the whole time and he never thought 1058 01:09:34.329 --> 01:09:39.310 about like, well, the, the, the object is like part 1059 01:09:39.329 --> 01:09:42.750 of your whole lived experience. You can't abstract your way 1060 01:09:42.829 --> 01:09:48.460 into perfectly abstract, um, mailbox to have a bracketed you 1061 01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:54.699 know non-influenced perspective of it so I would definitely agree 1062 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.460 with the limitations of Husserl and Husserl kind of went 1063 01:09:58.500 --> 01:10:01.279 off into like buddhism towards the end of his career 1064 01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:02.470 but he did you know. 1065 01:10:02.810 --> 01:10:06.109 Anyway so I do like the epoké I think I 1066 01:10:06.149 --> 01:10:08.029 think the idea of bracketing is cool you can never 1067 01:10:08.109 --> 01:10:11.229 see

yourself see I'm seeing the screen I can't see 1068 01:10:11.270 --> 01:10:12.090 myself seeing. 1069 01:10:11.970 --> 01:10:13.529 It's a good idea to shoot for but it's not 1070 01:10:13.630 --> 01:10:15.300 real I don't think you can really get out of 1071 01:10:15.340 --> 01:10:18.020 your own you know, presuppositions and web of beliefs. 1072 01:10:18.310 --> 01:10:21.590 No, no, you can't, you can't bracket them. Where I 1073 01:10:21.630 --> 01:10:24.949 like Husserl is, um, this is actually, I think a 1074 01:10:24.989 --> 01:10:28.409 Vatican two father, Canadian father from Vatican two. I don't 1075 01:10:28.550 --> 01:10:32.289 agree with this theology, but, uh, Lonergan, Bernard Lonergan takes 1076 01:10:32.329 --> 01:10:36.489 Husserl and he, he makes some really cool, um, I guess, 1077 01:10:36.590 --> 01:10:41.640 proofs against the reductivists or the materialists, the psychological materialists. 1078 01:10:41.739 --> 01:10:44.779 He says something like, look at Archimedes looking at the bathtub, 1079 01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.439 you know, for a million times trying to describe the 1080 01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.180 water overflow, you know, which is what mathematically describe it. 1081 01:10:53.369 --> 01:10:57.029 One cool use of the Husserlian epoche, where you bracket 1082 01:10:57.189 --> 01:11:00.659 all the sensory input, is the You've looked at it, say, 1083 01:11:00.699 --> 01:11:03.609 a thousand times if you're Archimedes, and you've never been 1084 01:11:03.649 --> 01:11:08.229 able to mathematically describe what happens when the water overflows. Well, 1085 01:11:08.270 --> 01:11:10.970 all of a sudden, say, the thousandth and first time, 1086 01:11:11.930 --> 01:11:16.239 he says, aha, and he has an insight. And all 1087 01:11:16.260 --> 01:11:18.840 of a sudden, Archimedes comes up with a way to 1088 01:11:18.859 --> 01:11:23.819 mathematically modify what's happening with spillover. And the cool thing 1089 01:11:23.859 --> 01:11:28.409 that Lonergan does with phenomenology and with some Husserlis just says, Well, 1090 01:11:28.430 --> 01:11:32.750 you bracket everything you knew before and all that sensory input, 1091 01:11:32.930 --> 01:11:36.689 and it still can't account for something new that happens 1092 01:11:36.729 --> 01:11:40.750 with a human insight. And it proves something very important 1093 01:11:40.770 --> 01:11:45.250 about reason, something Aristotelian about reason, proves something against the 1094 01:11:45.289 --> 01:11:48.090 reductionists who are really taking over the universities in the 1095 01:11:48.130 --> 01:11:54.489 early 20th century about relativism and what the mind, the 1096 01:11:54.529 --> 01:11:57.289 constructs of the mind and stuff. It's not just the brain. 1097 01:11:57.979 --> 01:12:00.279 So I think there are good uses of Husserl. I 1098 01:12:00.300 --> 01:12:01.979 think there are a lot of good uses of Heidegger. 1099 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.500 I don't like how Heidegger thought that Aristotle said he 1100 01:12:06.539 --> 01:12:08.770 was describing being, and he was just describing beings. 1101 01:12:08.810 --> 01:12:10.710 I think that's where Heidegger is really wrong. 1102 01:12:10.750 --> 01:12:12.630 But I think, I think being in time and the 1103 01:12:12.829 --> 01:12:17.689 introduction to metaphysics, uh, notebooks are really, really insightful. And 1104 01:12:17.710 --> 01:12:20.170 I like his Nietzsche lectures as well. I think Heidegger 1105 01:12:20.210 --> 01:12:22.270 doing Nietzsche's, um, him at his best. 1106 01:12:23.180 --> 01:12:24.659 Yeah. There's a really good thing too. 1107 01:12:25.020 --> 01:12:27.439 Um, It's super boring, but I remember we had a 1108 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.380 whole class basically on the logical investigations of Husserl. And 1109 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:33.800 what I came away with that was actually like there's 1110 01:12:33.859 --> 01:12:41.100 a super deep, excellent critique of the scientific method where 1111 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:47.050 Husserl shows that because he's critiquing Brentano's psychologism and sort 1112 01:12:47.090 --> 01:12:51.300 of basic bitch empiricism. And he just basically says, this 1113 01:12:51.310 --> 01:12:54.779 whole project of scientism doesn't even realize that the scientific 1114 01:12:54.819 --> 01:12:59.960 method itself presupposes logic and mathematics. So how are you 1115 01:12:59.979 --> 01:13:05.279 going to have science that doesn't presuppose universal laws and categories? It's, 1116 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:08.760 it's not possible, but they're also not under the purview 1117 01:13:08.779 --> 01:13:12.760 of the scientific method itself. So people in the audience, 1118 01:13:12.779 --> 01:13:14.720 you probably heard me use that argument a lot in debates. 1119 01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:19.670 I literally, I literally cribbed that from Husserl's logical investigation. So, Yeah, 1120 01:13:19.729 --> 01:13:21.390 there's a lot of good insights in his role, that 1121 01:13:21.430 --> 01:13:23.329 kind of stuff. Even though he's not a presuppositionalist, that's 1122 01:13:23.369 --> 01:13:26.590 a great point, I would think. But we've got a 1123 01:13:26.609 --> 01:13:27.550 couple more Super Chats here. 1124 01:13:28.369 --> 01:13:29.090 By the way, really. 1125 01:13:28.909 --> 01:13:32.489 Good conversation material here. I appreciate you coming on and 1126 01:13:33.100 --> 01:13:35.520 having these deep philosophy chats. We don't get that much. 1127 01:13:35.850 --> 01:13:41.539 No, we don't. Me acting like a retard. Yeah. Let's see. 1128 01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:50.289 Banana Chan, $ 5. Tim Gore versus Alex Sorin. Next debate. Well, 1129 01:13:51.430 --> 01:13:53.529 I did mention it to Tim. I mentioned it to 1130 01:13:53.670 --> 01:13:59.029 Alex because we're sort of looking for DebateCon 11. Yeah, 1131 01:13:59.029 --> 01:14:02.090 11 possibilities. Don't know what city that'll be in, but 1132

01:14:02.729 --> 01:14:04.670 both of them seem to be open to some sort 1133 01:14:04.710 --> 01:14:07.970 of prompt. I think that's a possibility. Both of them 1134 01:14:08.149 --> 01:14:14.289 are very intelligent lawyers trained in law. So it'll be 1135 01:14:14.310 --> 01:14:17.939 exciting to see whatever subject they come up with. holly 1136 01:14:17.949 --> 01:14:20.600 handmade five dollars is that a real puka shell necklace 1137 01:14:20.619 --> 01:14:25.039 yeah dude i'm in florida it was a wakandan on 1138 01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:27.579 the street vendor was selling these so yeah of course 1139 01:14:28.500 --> 01:14:32.279 wixantium trendsetters are bringing back y2k yeah i thought because 1140 01:14:32.300 --> 01:14:35.600 i used to have a uh puka shell necklace that 1141 01:14:35.659 --> 01:14:37.560 i wore in uh in high school so i was 1142 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.899 like yeah dude this is my version of this is 1143 01:14:39.939 --> 01:14:42.970 my version of like uncle rico living in the glory 1144 01:14:43.010 --> 01:14:46.710 days right like I could throw a football. 1145 01:14:46.430 --> 01:14:50.670 Over that mountain. Take state. Take state. 1146 01:14:50.729 --> 01:14:56.220 Corrado, $ 5. This is a spectacular victory for Judaocracy. Do 1147 01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.460 you mean me and Tim doing a podcast? Or do 1148 01:14:59.500 --> 01:15:01.479 you mean the midterms? I think you mean the midterms, 1149 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:02.020 but I don't know. 1150 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:03.140 What you mean. What the fuck? 1151 01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:10.520 This is a vote for Judaism first. Chetnik, $ 20. Tim, 1152 01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:14.689 or as he is known in the streets, Bay's Chris Angel. 1153 01:15:17.170 --> 01:15:20.149 Do you prefer being Creed Scott Stapp. 1154 01:15:19.829 --> 01:15:22.550 Or do you prefer being Chris Angel? Who do you 1155 01:15:22.590 --> 01:15:23.250 vibe with more? 1156 01:15:24.029 --> 01:15:25.510 I mean, Chris Angel is a hell of a lot 1157 01:15:25.550 --> 01:15:28.529 more talented and I've gotten Scott. I think that's how 1158 01:15:28.590 --> 01:15:30.430 Jay and I became friends as he was like, yo, 1159 01:15:30.449 --> 01:15:31.340 you're Scott Stapp. 1160 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.060 And he thought I would be mad. I'm like, oh, 1161 01:15:33.109 --> 01:15:35.479 I got that every day. Everyone in my. 1162 01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.960 Band literally called me Scott Stapp. So I'd rather be 1163 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.239 Chris Angel if I had to pick, but. 1164 01:15:41.949 --> 01:15:44.149 I've heard Tim's music since then. I didn't even know 1165 01:15:44.170 --> 01:15:45.630 you were in a band. So that makes it even like, 1166 01:15:46.289 --> 01:15:48.770 that makes it meta, dude. It's meta because you actually 1167 01:15:48.810 --> 01:15:50.909 were in a band. Although you were not in a 1168 01:15:51.670 --> 01:15:52.750 Creed type of band. 1169 01:15:53.109 --> 01:15:54.989 No,

no, no, no. We were metal. 1170 01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:58.819 Yeah, but you know, I also have the little bit 1171 01:15:58.859 --> 01:16:00.760 of wigxantium that I like to wear on my feet. 1172 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.779 I do collect Jordans. You really do? I really do. 1173 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:07.039 I love the 90s Jordan. 1174 01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.079 Yeah, I was wearing Jordan 4s at our Tim Pool debate. 1175 01:16:10.789 --> 01:16:13.489 And I was wearing Jordan 2s. No, I was wearing 1176 01:16:13.510 --> 01:16:17.489 Jordan 3s at our debate on Elijah or whatever. 1177 01:16:17.609 --> 01:16:20.079 Okay. You got to be comfortable. Okay. I don't even 1178 01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:23.279 know about any of that, but that sounds cool. You 1179 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:27.500 can't run Wigxantium then, my dude, my nagger. 1180 01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:34.539 We wear Timberlands in Wigxantium. Yeah, okay. There's a lot 1181 01:16:34.579 --> 01:16:38.010 of snow up in Agartha, where the wiggers are in 1182 01:16:38.020 --> 01:16:39.890 the snow above the ice wall. So you got to 1183 01:16:39.930 --> 01:16:44.149 have Timberlands. Cave and Ruse, $ 5. I agree with states 1184 01:16:44.229 --> 01:16:46.810 having more power, but if states have too much power, 1185 01:16:46.930 --> 01:16:50.109 would there be wars between the states? Well, I think 1186 01:16:50.130 --> 01:16:51.930 we've had the Civil War. I guess that's possible. Tim, 1187 01:16:51.949 --> 01:16:54.189 what would you say to that question? Would there be 1188 01:16:54.270 --> 01:16:55.109 war between the states? 1189 01:16:55.909 --> 01:17:01.670 In the whole history of small republics, this is another 1190 01:17:02.050 --> 01:17:04.079 thing that I think is bullshit about Federalist 10. 1191 01:17:04.069 --> 01:17:07.390 They don't go to war a lot. Little Malta, little England, little... 1192 01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:10.760 swiss cantons one with each other the swiss cantons had 1193 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:13.619 what what we call in political theory a league of 1194 01:17:13.699 --> 01:17:17.000 friendship which is um kind of like the un but 1195 01:17:17.060 --> 01:17:21.060 not gay and um no i think they would be 1196 01:17:21.140 --> 01:17:22.079 friends i think they would. 1197 01:17:21.979 --> 01:17:25.420 The league of bays bros yeah not hell yeah the 1198 01:17:25.460 --> 01:17:27.850 league of friendship does sound kind of gay but it 1199 01:17:27.930 --> 01:17:31.229 sounds league of the league of bays chads there we go. 1200 01:17:31.109 --> 01:17:33.449 Yeah Yeah, I don't think they would go to war. 1201 01:17:33.470 --> 01:17:37.090 I think that's a Madisonian argument that was used as 1202 01:17:37.130 --> 01:17:41.369 a justification in Federalist 10 and Federalist 39 to push 1203 01:17:41.409 --> 01:17:45.970 people to being afraid to be small and to be 1204 01:17:46.010 --> 01:17:48.930 afraid to have true republics, you know, like the size 1205 01:17:48.970 --> 01:17:54.539 of small states like Delaware. The small republics in history 1206 01:17:55.060 --> 01:17:58.960 are the ones that give us the examples of thousand 1207 01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:01.539 year long lasting lives. 1208 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:02.979 So I don't think so. 1209 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.449 And they also tend to be very unwarlike and tend 1210 01:18:06.510 --> 01:18:09.189 to be great trade partners. So I would think now 1211 01:18:09.350 --> 01:18:12.390 I think that's Madisonian brainwashing and we all have it. 1212 01:18:12.489 --> 01:18:14.949 Right guys. Remember we do have a show sponsor. Today's 1213 01:18:14.989 --> 01:18:18.220 sponsor is a carbon 60 C 60 from our good 1214 01:18:18.409 --> 01:18:22.220 Bay's ortho bro. Greska runs an Orthodox company. 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We've 1236 01:19:27.970 --> 01:19:30.470 got 2,000 over here just on YouTube. Shout out to 1237 01:19:30.489 --> 01:19:33.130 the big fat audience today, all you dorks. Chad dorks 1238 01:19:33.189 --> 01:19:33.609 in the audience. 1239 01:19:33.630 --> 01:19:34.109 We love you guys. 1240 01:19:34.590 --> 01:19:38.029 Kaimana, $ 10. Jay, I'm a fan of your Hawaiian descent. 1241

01:19:38.229 --> 01:19:38.409 Wait. 1242 01:19:39.270 --> 01:19:42.329 Jay, I'm a fan, but I'm of Hawaiian descent. So 1243 01:19:42.369 --> 01:19:47.270 you're like Keanu and the Samoans. Are Samoans Hawaiian or 1244 01:19:47.289 --> 01:19:50.329 is that different? That's a different island, isn't it? Anyway, 1245 01:19:50.430 --> 01:19:53.989 I was looking into how King Kalakakua was a 33rd 1246 01:19:54.010 --> 01:20:00.189 degree Mason. I was wondering, could you discuss Freemasonry in 1247 01:20:00.430 --> 01:20:03.149 Pacific geopolitics? Well, I'll be honest with you, I don't 1248 01:20:03.170 --> 01:20:06.149 know a lot about Freemasonry in Pacific geopolitics, but I 1249 01:20:06.170 --> 01:20:09.949 don't know, but I'm not surprised because Masonry was used 1250 01:20:10.909 --> 01:20:14.989 by the British Empire especially as sort of their international 1251 01:20:16.010 --> 01:20:18.840 spy network. So, yeah, I'm not surprised about that, but 1252 01:20:19.060 --> 01:20:21.859 I honestly don't know a whole lot about that. But 1253 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:26.300 I think Protestantism in general, British Empire in general, was 1254 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:32.899 very adept at using Freemasonry for multiple purposes, including pushing 1255 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:36.869 all of the Enlightenment values. And we've got our Catholic 1256 01:20:36.909 --> 01:20:38.739 buddy here with us, I remember when I was a 1257 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:41.140 trad cat, the thing that really woke me up to 1258 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.239 all this was I was at the SSPX Mass, and 1259 01:20:44.260 --> 01:20:47.359 I remember getting a hold of a little booklet, which 1260 01:20:47.420 --> 01:20:51.659 was Leo XIII's encyclical on Freemasonry. And that opened my 1261 01:20:51.819 --> 01:20:53.420 eyes to a lot of things. I then went and 1262 01:20:53.460 --> 01:20:57.859 read all the previous and other Masonic encyclicals that the 1263 01:20:57.899 --> 01:21:00.640 popes have written. Of course, the Orthodox Church has basically 1264 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:04.489 the same take canonically and historically in the patriarchate's and 1265 01:21:04.510 --> 01:21:07.770 the bishoprics about the invalidity of Freemasonry, but we've also 1266 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:13.960 had Greek Orthodox patriarchs who have famously been Freemasons. So 1267 01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:16.960 I know that it's everywhere. I'm not surprised that it's 1268 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:19.739 in Hawaii. I just don't know a whole lot about 1269 01:21:19.779 --> 01:21:23.020 that topic, but it sounds really interesting. Tim, anything you 1270 01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:24.699 want to add to that about the role of sort 1271 01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:25.760 of Freemasonry and any of this stuff? 1272 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:27.500 At the end of the 20th century. 1273 01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:34.109 Famously, Leo XIII was talking about Freemasonry a lot. And 1274 01:21:34.130 --> 01:21:37.750 he said, what's coming is separation of church and state. 1275 01:21:37.970 --> 01:21:40.510 I think Pius X said that too at the beginning 1276 01:21:40.529 --> 01:21:46.159 of the 20th century. That was that 1947 case, Everson 1277 01:21:46.180 --> 01:21:49.939 versus Board of Ed, which reversed the First Amendment that 1278 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.779 we were talking about a half hour ago. Everson versus 1279 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:58.310 Board of Ed is this brainwash And it was seven 1280 01:21:58.810 --> 01:22:02.810 of the nine Supreme Court members in the late 40s, 1281 01:22:03.130 --> 01:22:06.220 in 1947, were high-ranking Masons. 1282 01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:09.920 Yes. They did the reversal of the First Amendment. 1283 01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:12.420 You know, it's funny you said that because I just remembered. 1284 01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.819 There's another book from Tan Publishers called Behind the Lodge 1285 01:22:16.859 --> 01:22:20.609 Door by Paul Fisher. That's another classic I read as 1286 01:22:20.670 --> 01:22:24.729 a trad cat. Have you read Solange Hurts? I came 1287 01:22:24.770 --> 01:22:26.350 across her stuff when I was a trad cat. 1288 01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:28.399 No, but I've heard I should. 1289 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:31.689 Uh, well, I, I, I, you, I guess you would 1290 01:22:31.729 --> 01:22:33.399 like it, but I mean, I, she was kind of 1291 01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:36.850 popular in those, uh, you know, SSPX sort of French 1292 01:22:36.949 --> 01:22:39.590 right wing circles and her book, right. She might be German. 1293 01:22:39.609 --> 01:22:43.180 I don't know if she's French, but, um, her book Americanism, uh, 1294 01:22:43.229 --> 01:22:44.770 was one of the first things that really got me 1295 01:22:44.829 --> 01:22:47.970 questioning a lot of the classical liberal values. And, you know, 1296 01:22:47.989 --> 01:22:49.170 a lot of the right wing or a lot of 1297 01:22:49.189 --> 01:22:52.609 the monarchy stuff is pretty, pretty popular in the SSPX 1298 01:22:52.649 --> 01:22:55.710 circles back in the day when I was in that. But, um, yeah, 1299 01:22:55.729 --> 01:22:58.250 I think, I think, uh, there's a lot of overlap 1300 01:22:58.270 --> 01:23:01.569 when it comes to the idea of, uh, what the 1301 01:23:01.649 --> 01:23:05.550 role of the state is both with Catholic and traditional 1302 01:23:05.609 --> 01:23:07.909 Orthodox ideas. And I just gave a talk at a 1303 01:23:07.930 --> 01:23:11.329 big conference, uh, about a month ago. You might be 1304 01:23:11.350 --> 01:23:12.710 interested in that. Uh, cause I went into a lot 1305 01:23:12.729 --> 01:23:15.470 of the history of Byzantium and what the Byzantine canonists, 1306 01:23:16.390 --> 01:23:19.600 how they view church and state, um, pretty, pretty much, 1307 01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:22.619 I think all the same, basically the same ideas as the. 1308 01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:23.840 Traditional Catholic position. 1309 01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:27.069 So, um, Anyway,

but if you guys missed that, my 1310 01:23:27.109 --> 01:23:31.109 Ludwell conference talk, I did it on Byzantine legal theory 1311 01:23:31.130 --> 01:23:32.680 and whatnot, which a lot of that was new to me. 1312 01:23:32.689 --> 01:23:34.350 It was fascinating to study that because I didn't know 1313 01:23:34.369 --> 01:23:34.930 a lot of it. 1314 01:23:35.729 --> 01:23:38.569 I'm really interested in that. Someone asked me that. They said, 1315 01:23:38.630 --> 01:23:41.149 what's the EO. 1316 01:23:40.979 --> 01:23:43.180 Political theology on all this? Because I do a lot 1317 01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:46.680 of Catholic political theology. And I said, I think it's 1318 01:23:46.739 --> 01:23:48.800 the same as ours, but I need to ask Jay. 1319 01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:50.739 So I'll actually check that out. 1320 01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:54.470 Yeah, I think every state prior to modernity in Europe 1321 01:23:55.890 --> 01:24:00.109 Christian civilization believed that the state had a specific duty 1322 01:24:00.170 --> 01:24:02.569 to God and to the church. 1323 01:24:02.689 --> 01:24:05.409 So absolutely. I mean, the whole. 1324 01:24:05.369 --> 01:24:07.810 Idea of the double-headed eagle is church. One body of 1325 01:24:07.829 --> 01:24:10.720 the people with church and state working in Symphonia is 1326 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.920 the ideal. It's never going to be perfect. There's always 1327 01:24:13.939 --> 01:24:17.210 going to be squabbles. But yeah, so by the way, 1328 01:24:17.220 --> 01:24:19.439 I'm going to be debating Trent on this very topic. 1329 01:24:20.619 --> 01:24:21.939 Oh, in December? 1330 01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:22.180 Yeah. 1331 01:24:22.949 --> 01:24:24.380 So we're going to, we're going to debate two, two 1332 01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:27.130 different subjects. Uh, one, I forget the name of the, 1333 01:24:27.140 --> 01:24:29.800 or forget the exact prompt of the first one. Something 1334 01:24:29.819 --> 01:24:32.859 to do with like divorce and contraception in the first 1335 01:24:34.260 --> 01:24:35.600 several centuries or millennium. 1336 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:37.239 I forget how we laid out the problem. 1337 01:24:37.260 --> 01:24:41.329 And the second prompt will be about, uh, did the 1338 01:24:41.369 --> 01:24:44.489 Roman Catholic church change its position on the role of 1339 01:24:44.529 --> 01:24:46.229 church and state? So it's going to be interesting because 1340 01:24:47.729 --> 01:24:50.569 I assume Trent is going to try to argue that 1341 01:24:50.590 --> 01:24:54.569 there's a continuity. Um, But it took me a year 1342 01:24:54.649 --> 01:25:00.100 of negotiating and altering and getting him to figure out 1343 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:00.539 a prompt he. 1344 01:25:00.500 --> 01:25:02.039 Was willing to do. So anyway, it's going to be fun. 1345 01:25:02.539 --> 01:25:05.039 But that Byzantine talk, I'll send you. 1346 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:06.739 That later if you're interested. That might be relevant. Yeah, 1347 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:08.340 I am interested. Similar subject. 1348 01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:10.260 Tom Bombadil. 1349 01:25:11.140 --> 01:25:16.270 Sorry, that's in Orlando or Dallas? We just did Orlando. 1350 01:25:17.029 --> 01:25:21.569 That was last week. So this one is Dallas in February. 1351 01:25:22.819 --> 01:25:25.159 Oh, in February? Yeah. Why did I think it was December? 1352 01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:27.180 They changed it. 1353 01:25:27.180 --> 01:25:29.140 It was supposed to be in December originally, and they 1354 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:30.060 moved it. Gotcha. 1355 01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.699 Because he couldn't get the right place or whatever. So 1356 01:25:33.270 --> 01:25:35.760 this is going to be big, because I think there'll be... 1357 01:25:36.189 --> 01:25:40.850 Chink Ugar is debating Andrew, and I think Chink is 1358 01:25:40.890 --> 01:25:45.989 also debating Destiny. And I'm debating Trent twice. I'm sure 1359 01:25:46.609 --> 01:25:48.689 GodLogic and everybody else will be there debating. 1360 01:25:48.470 --> 01:25:49.149 The Muslims, but. 1361 01:25:50.890 --> 01:25:52.880 Anyway, so I don't know if you got a chance 1362 01:25:52.899 --> 01:25:54.520 to see any of the David Wood debates, but I 1363 01:25:54.659 --> 01:26:00.479 had some pretty amusing debates, two debates with David Wood on, uh, yeah. 1364 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:01.399 Yeah. 1365 01:26:01.899 --> 01:26:03.739 Tom Bombadil, $ 4. 1366 01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:04.619 I couldn't find a meter. 1367 01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:05.739 Here's $ 4. Okay. 1368 01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:09.060 You owe reparations to Byzantium, by the way. 1369 01:26:09.850 --> 01:26:11.210 Uh, Erica Russell, five bucks. 1370 01:26:11.689 --> 01:26:14.369 What a woman is. That's actually one of my favorite documentaries. 1371 01:26:14.430 --> 01:26:18.989 So you got, we got a fan there, Tim. Cool. Eric, 1372 01:26:19.029 --> 01:26:19.829 not Erica, excuse me. 1373 01:26:20.430 --> 01:26:28.199 Legit Roman, $ 20. Roman Catholic and Oriental Orthodox love Orthodox icons. Well, 1374 01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:33.750 I think everybody does because they're beautiful. John Cole, $ 5. 1375 01:26:33.609 --> 01:26:36.409 This is great stuff. I'm actually visiting my first divine 1376 01:26:36.449 --> 01:26:38.029 liturgy this weekend. 1377 01:26:38.050 --> 01:26:41.840 Hey, that's great, man. That's awesome. J. 1378 01:26:41.899 --> 01:26:47.380 Mel, $ 15. It's ironic that Fuentes is Hamiltonian. Trump claims 1379 01:26:47.420 --> 01:26:50.560 to be Hamiltonian with his tariffs and his industry. 1380 01:26:51.060 --> 01:26:54.909 Any take on that? Well, it's a basic tension. This 1381 01:26:54.930 --> 01:26:59.270 is what I want. Nick's a North guy. I'm a 1382 01:26:59.350 --> 01:27:00.010 South guy. 1383 01:27:00.029 --> 01:27:03.930 And I think it's just hard for a North guy 1384 01:27:04.050 --> 01:27:07.310 that defends the culture of the North to ever get 1385 01:27:07.350

--> 01:27:09.180 off of Hamiltonianism. But this is why I want to 1386 01:27:09.229 --> 01:27:11.079 do this follow-up show. It was supposed to happen a 1387 01:27:11.100 --> 01:27:14.619 long time ago. I think I could convince him. Because 1388 01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:18.859 I just don't think there's real defending of Hamiltonianism. Pure Hamiltonianism. 1389 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:22.850 But what the commenter, the super chatter is right. That's 1390 01:27:23.050 --> 01:27:23.659 exactly right. 1391 01:27:26.710 --> 01:27:30.670 Cody sends $ 100. Wow, you guys are being super generous today. 1392 01:27:30.689 --> 01:27:31.149 I appreciate that. 1393 01:27:31.170 --> 01:27:33.789 He says, God bless. Well, God bless you, Cody. Much appreciated. 1394 01:27:34.670 --> 01:27:38.590 You and your bro are making the big fat. Y'all 1395 01:27:38.609 --> 01:27:40.970 are paying the bills. You're keeping the toilets flushed around here. 1396 01:27:42.229 --> 01:27:43.000 Kievan Roos, $ 5. 1397 01:27:42.930 --> 01:27:47.109 Tim says, Do you think there's ever been an example of, say, 1398 01:27:47.109 --> 01:27:51.409 50 plus republics that united in a confederation in history? 1399 01:27:51.529 --> 01:27:53.289 The U.S., I think, is too big for that, in 1400 01:27:53.329 --> 01:27:53.750 my opinion. 1401 01:27:56.010 --> 01:27:58.850 No, but we already mocked the term, but the League 1402 01:27:58.869 --> 01:28:01.979 of Friendship thing is very real. And even if you 1403 01:28:02.020 --> 01:28:04.920 looked at the way that the Roman Empire, Holy Roman 1404 01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:10.930 Empire operated, particularly under like Charlemagne, it was just. The 1405 01:28:10.970 --> 01:28:13.930 countries that were taken over by Rome were really still 1406 01:28:14.050 --> 01:28:17.880 tribal countries that had all their own culture, pretty much 1407 01:28:17.939 --> 01:28:21.840 all their own laws. They were just taxed under what 1408 01:28:21.859 --> 01:28:23.520 we would call a requisition system. 1409 01:28:24.619 --> 01:28:25.819 And I'd be fine with that. 1410 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.220 So it wouldn't be, it doesn't need to be as 1411 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.770 it was under the Articles of Confederation. 1412 01:28:31.779 --> 01:28:34.270 It actually wasn't 13 different countries. 1413 01:28:34.390 --> 01:28:37.989 That was, it was a little more than a league 1414 01:28:38.010 --> 01:28:42.579 of friendship, but definitely not as central or energetic a 1415 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:47.140 government as 1788 Constitution reified. So you can kind of 1416 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:50.260 get closer and closer to where do I exactly believe. 1417 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:53.539 I kind of believe slightly different scope of government on 1418 01:28:53.579 --> 01:28:55.520 different days, but it's all within a range. 1419 01:28:55.819 --> 01:28:59.239 Like, if you look at the United States. 1420 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:03.979 From 1776 to 1788 for those 12 years,

we have 1421 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.279 the articles of confederation. 1422 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:09.310 That was one branch of government. It was, um, simply 1423 01:29:09.350 --> 01:29:09.989 a Congress. 1424 01:29:10.069 --> 01:29:12.689 Congress is a treaty gov term by the way, uh, 1425 01:29:12.829 --> 01:29:16.170 as is a federal photos in means it's a treaty 1426 01:29:16.189 --> 01:29:19.760 gov term treaty government just means a league of friendly 1427 01:29:19.819 --> 01:29:22.720 nations who get together to fight wars together. And they 1428 01:29:22.739 --> 01:29:25.239 only have this one branch of government called the Congress. 1429 01:29:25.670 --> 01:29:28.470 They only meet in the summer. There was no federal judiciary. 1430 01:29:28.510 --> 01:29:30.069 There was no federal executive. 1431 01:29:31.210 --> 01:29:34.029 All of the states under that system had their own 1432 01:29:34.069 --> 01:29:39.560 three branches of government. So absolutely, there were 13 kind 1433 01:29:39.609 --> 01:29:44.020 of republics that were kind of like one when they 1434 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.279 would get together once a year for about a month 1435 01:29:46.340 --> 01:29:50.020 in the summer and they would have a Congress. Then 1436 01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:52.899 there was the second phase of the United States, what 1437 01:29:52.939 --> 01:29:58.329 we call the antebellum phase. which is basically between 1788 1438 01:29:58.329 --> 01:30:02.880 and the Civil War, we had more energetic three-branch national 1439 01:30:02.909 --> 01:30:07.100 federal government, but stuff still kind of worked because states' 1440 01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:10.840 rights were robust. And then we had, after the Civil War, 1441 01:30:10.859 --> 01:30:14.720 the 14th Amendment came in, supplanted all of the Constitution, 1442 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:18.229 turned everything, turned states' rights on their heads. We had 1443 01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:21.449 incorporation doctrine under the Fourth. We had state action doctrine 1444 01:30:21.489 --> 01:30:25.680 under the Fourteenth. And it just became total federal leviathan. 1445 01:30:25.979 --> 01:30:30.300 So I could go back to phase one or phase two, 1446 01:30:30.659 --> 01:30:35.220 more or less anarcho-libertarian. I just know that phase three 1447 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:37.779 after the Civil War, the country's already. 1448 01:30:38.939 --> 01:30:39.260 Fucked. 1449 01:30:39.699 --> 01:30:42.199 So that's, you know, ask me a different thing on 1450 01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:44.260 a different day and I'll tell you phase one. Other 1451 01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:46.319 days I'll tell you phase two, but I know phase 1452 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:47.159 three ain't working. 1453 01:30:48.939 --> 01:30:51.779 Patriarch of East Tennessee, $ 5. As a Tennessee Hill person 1454 01:30:51.819 --> 01:30:54.260 living in a cave, Even I am not stupid enough 1455 01:30:54.500 --> 01:30:59.710 to vote, let alone have a prolapse over predetermined human rituals. 1456 01:31:00.010 --> 01:31:05.170 I did love to see Vivek, rather shardy, get sent 1457 01:31:05.250 --> 01:31:10.350 back to Delhi. Von DA, $ 10. I would love for 1458 01:31:10.369 --> 01:31:14.420 my two favorite wiggas here to do a movie analysis collaboration. 1459 01:31:15.579 --> 01:31:17.619 You know, I never thought about doing that with Tim. 1460 01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:20.079 That'd be an interesting conversation to do a movie analysis. 1461 01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:22.619 Have you ever done a movie analysis on your channel? 1462 01:31:24.100 --> 01:31:27.369 I've done a couple, I've done more written movie analysis. 1463 01:31:27.710 --> 01:31:31.270 I used to actually do it for Bishop Barron, but, um, and, and, um, 1464 01:31:31.569 --> 01:31:33.170 our mutual friend, Frank, who. 1465 01:31:33.069 --> 01:31:37.039 Just, so you did, you did like a hentai reviews 1466 01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:38.220 or like what, how did that work? 1467 01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.760 I would just, I would just, um, write little reviews 1468 01:31:42.140 --> 01:31:43.520 for movies. I liked a lot. 1469 01:31:43.539 --> 01:31:45.239 That was a joke, dude. Yeah. 1470 01:31:45.260 --> 01:31:45.420 Yeah. 1471 01:31:45.460 --> 01:31:48.159 No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. 1472 01:31:48.189 --> 01:31:50.569 I couldn't resist that. Like, I love you too. I'm 1473 01:31:50.609 --> 01:31:51.369 just making jokes, man. 1474 01:31:51.689 --> 01:31:52.380 Yeah. I ain't got you. 1475 01:31:52.930 --> 01:31:55.399 Um, I think it could be fun. This guy is 1476 01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:58.220 suggesting that we do a review of the mission, the 1477 01:31:58.220 --> 01:32:00.840 1986 film with Robert De Niro, the Jesuits. 1478 01:32:00.939 --> 01:32:01.760 I'm sure you've seen that. 1479 01:32:02.729 --> 01:32:03.739 Um, I've seen it once. 1480 01:32:03.859 --> 01:32:05.430 I thought it was more boring than. 1481 01:32:05.409 --> 01:32:08.670 It is pretty boring. I mean, the other thing too 1482 01:32:08.770 --> 01:32:11.970 is like, I kind of think the purpose of that 1483 01:32:12.029 --> 01:32:17.289 movie is like, Oh, colonialism is, is the great enemy 1484 01:32:17.350 --> 01:32:20.600 because see, they were great noble savages until, um, the 1485 01:32:20.619 --> 01:32:24.939 papacy and the Jesuits and the, you know, colonizers showed up, uh, 1486 01:32:24.979 --> 01:32:26.619 you know, and the same could, you know, the left 1487 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.460 would say the same thing about, you know, Byzantium or 1488 01:32:29.590 --> 01:32:33.170 the Russian empire sending missionaries like, Oh, see, that's a colonialist. 1489 01:32:33.189 --> 01:32:36.810 I got a very anti-colonialist vibe from that, that, Oh, 1490 01:32:36.850 --> 01:32:39.050 you see, we just need to go back to like the, 1491 01:32:39.130 --> 01:32:41.729 you know, this false idea of the noble savage, which 1492 01:32:41.770 --> 01:32:43.270 is a creative mythology of

the left. 1493 01:32:43.350 --> 01:32:48.409 But, um, it's about, what do you think about, um, 1494 01:32:49.529 --> 01:32:52.039 apocalypto very very opposite no i love. 1495 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:53.800 Apocalypto it's one of my favorite movies yeah i. 1496 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.800 Love it yeah i love it too i've only recently 1497 01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:59.479 reconnected with it i'd love to do i i'm very 1498 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:00.760 open to this i. 1499 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.899 Mean i'm always been i've been a fan of mel 1500 01:33:03.930 --> 01:33:07.130 gibson since the 90s i was like mel gibson's first 1501 01:33:07.170 --> 01:33:10.130 guy that got me into conspiracy stuff through conspiracy theory 1502 01:33:10.210 --> 01:33:12.430 so uh i mean i know it's not i mean 1503 01:33:12.470 --> 01:33:14.649 it's it's a mel gibson movie but also it's not 1504 01:33:14.789 --> 01:33:18.079 technically me it's dick donner and all that but I've 1505 01:33:18.100 --> 01:33:23.210 always been a Mel Gibson fan. We could do a 1506 01:33:23.510 --> 01:33:26.409 Mel analysis. I think Jamie and I did Apocalypto maybe 1507 01:33:26.430 --> 01:33:30.609 a year or two ago. We could find something if 1508 01:33:30.649 --> 01:33:32.189 you want to do a movie analysis. 1509 01:33:32.229 --> 01:33:32.710 Von D.A. 1510 01:33:32.750 --> 01:33:35.220 Says, it's about the Jesuits. It deals with the conflict 1511 01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:40.340 between church and state, clericalism, etc. Esoteric Floydism, $ 10. Jay, 1512 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:43.239 did you read any of Anatoly Golitsyn's stuff? 1513 01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:44.279 What do you think of his works? 1514 01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:49.189 He was a top KGB defector. I think it's CIA propaganda, honestly. 1515 01:33:49.250 --> 01:33:53.170 So my buddy Mark Hackard, who specializes in all that 1516 01:33:53.210 --> 01:33:57.039 stuff with the KGB lore, he translates a lot of 1517 01:33:57.060 --> 01:34:00.680 their older texts. And he did a great analysis at, 1518 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:03.039 if you go to Espionage History Archive and you look 1519 01:34:03.180 --> 01:34:05.100 up his article. 1520 01:34:04.979 --> 01:34:07.939 On Golitsyn and he has one on. 1521 01:34:09.250 --> 01:34:12.590 Yuri Bezmenov. So, Basically, what you get from both of 1522 01:34:12.619 --> 01:34:16.630 these characters is half-truths that the CIA wanted out to 1523 01:34:16.729 --> 01:34:19.890 prop up their narrative in the Cold War. So they're 1524 01:34:19.909 --> 01:34:25.090 very useful for Western CIA narratives. And I think ultimately, 1525 01:34:25.149 --> 01:34:26.949 as you guys know, much of the Cold War was 1526 01:34:26.989 --> 01:34:30.609 a deflection from who the real purveyors of socialism and 1527 01:34:30.630 --> 01:34:35.590 Marxism were. Not Moscow, but very Middle Eastern people and 1528 01:34:36.189 --> 01:34:42.039 the Rockefellers. That's the main people pushing Marxism, Bolshevism, Socialism, 1529 01:34:42.739 --> 01:34:46.489 and Moscow gets used, gets taken over by these people. 1530 01:34:48.289 --> 01:34:51.090 Also, the CIA had a specific position. 1531 01:34:51.270 --> 01:34:55.220 They were not anti, people misunderstand this, the CIA was 1532 01:34:55.340 --> 01:35:00.119 never anti, it was never right-wing, and it was never anti-socialism. 1533 01:35:00.220 --> 01:35:04.739 It was anti-Stalinism, and those things are distinct. That's why 1534 01:35:04.779 --> 01:35:08.119 the CIA went to the Cold War. partly because Stalin 1535 01:35:08.140 --> 01:35:11.159 didn't accept the Marshall plan aid. And so that does 1536 01:35:11.220 --> 01:35:13.640 not make Stalin a good guy. It makes him a 1537 01:35:14.060 --> 01:35:18.340 sort of useful dialectical opposition between, uh, the NKVD and 1538 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:22.220 the CIA. And so ultimately both sides are kind of 1539 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:28.100 bad news is my position into the end to the 1540 01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:31.189 end of the age, $ 10. Did you guys, hopefully you 1541 01:35:31.229 --> 01:35:33.689 guys are doing some research and soul searching after Larry 1542 01:35:33.729 --> 01:35:37.380 Loomer said, God has abandoned traditional Christianity. Because you guys 1543 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:40.220 didn't support Netanyahu hard enough. 1544 01:35:43.649 --> 01:35:46.409 God abandoned her face. How about that? 1545 01:35:47.270 --> 01:35:49.350 Because it doesn't even look like a human face anymore. 1546 01:35:49.850 --> 01:35:54.010 Dave Costa, $ 20. Here are my reparations, Emperor Wigzantium. We 1547 01:35:54.050 --> 01:35:58.159 need a Cringe Corps record banger with Criss Angel here together. Well, 1548 01:35:58.659 --> 01:36:01.359 I mean, I need him to become Scott Stapp so 1549 01:36:01.380 --> 01:36:04.340 that we can do a Creed co-op together. Because I 1550 01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:07.520 love singing the Creed songs. I'm not even a Creed fan. 1551 01:36:07.579 --> 01:36:11.340 It's just fun to sing them. Cheese clicks and dollars. 1552 01:36:11.699 --> 01:36:13.680 If there is a future religion that is to come, 1553 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:15.439 what do you think it would be? What is your 1554 01:36:15.460 --> 01:36:21.470 take on Brave New World? I don't know what the 1555 01:36:21.779 --> 01:36:25.869 rest of that's gibberish. If you're asking about the novel 1556 01:36:25.890 --> 01:36:30.149 Brave New World, our mutual buddy Frank and I, we 1557 01:36:30.170 --> 01:36:33.729 did an entire podcast series, Frank and I did, on 1558 01:36:34.149 --> 01:36:36.310 Brave New World. We went through it. Every chapter in 1559 01:36:36.340 --> 01:36:38.300 the book is a great series that we did. We 1560 01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:40.100 also did the same thing for The Godfather, so you 1561 01:36:40.140 --> 01:36:42.140 can find those in the archives. I think they're at 1562 01:36:42.180 --> 01:36:48.359 my website. Archives are not public on YouTube. There's a 1563 01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:52.300 quasi-religion going on in Brave New World where it's like 1564 01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:57.399 a sex magic orgy rave, basically, is the religion of 1565 01:36:58.619 --> 01:37:01.850 Brave New World. Maybe that could take off as a 1566 01:37:02.109 --> 01:37:05.529 potential future religion. You know, St. Seraphim Rose thinks that 1567 01:37:05.550 --> 01:37:09.409 it is some form of like New Age Hindu type stuff, 1568 01:37:09.449 --> 01:37:13.010 that it will be the future in world religion. You know, 1569 01:37:13.069 --> 01:37:15.289 any of those things could be the case. Probably just 1570 01:37:15.329 --> 01:37:19.189 some kind of syncretistic blending of all things. Tim, any 1571 01:37:19.300 --> 01:37:22.520 idea what the last days. 1572 01:37:22.579 --> 01:37:28.100 Whenever that is, of false world religion might be? No clue. 1573 01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:28.520 I don't know. 1574 01:37:28.659 --> 01:37:30.720 Can't can return to Canaanite stuff. 1575 01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:31.119 Yeah. 1576 01:37:31.140 --> 01:37:32.899 It's always the sex magic, isn't it? 1577 01:37:33.529 --> 01:37:35.189 I mean, you know, it seems like it would be, uh, 1578 01:37:35.350 --> 01:37:37.510 it would be like the butt stuff, which is pretty, 1579 01:37:38.090 --> 01:37:38.869 pretty prominent. 1580 01:37:39.149 --> 01:37:42.250 I'm serious though. I mean, it's going to, it's going to. 1581 01:37:42.229 --> 01:37:44.149 Be some kind of thing like that for sure. 1582 01:37:44.170 --> 01:37:47.380 Um, how are you on time? Are you cool? 1583 01:37:47.579 --> 01:37:50.880 Are you, are you cool to keep discussing? Do you 1584 01:37:50.899 --> 01:37:52.600 need to go? Do you want to, I mean, it's 1585 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:54.460 totally up to you. I'm not trying to run you off. 1586 01:37:54.699 --> 01:37:57.640 Um, No, no. I'm cool until 4.30, so I've got 1587 01:37:57.659 --> 01:37:58.739 eight more minutes. 1588 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:00.979 Okay, so let's see. You've got some more Super Chats here. 1589 01:38:01.020 --> 01:38:01.640 What's up, Mike? 1590 01:38:01.659 --> 01:38:07.000 Thank you for the memberships there. Wayne says, for $ 10, 1591 01:38:06.659 --> 01:38:11.859 YouTube Premium was giving me the same message, but I 1592 01:38:11.899 --> 01:38:16.409 bought separate accounts for my daughter. I just have one account, though, 1593 01:38:16.430 --> 01:38:17.829 but I've got a bunch of tabs because I'm a 1594 01:38:18.069 --> 01:38:21.590 live streamer. We had to not use the account at 1595 01:38:21.630 --> 01:38:26.939 the same time. It's the ghost of Susan Wojcicki. In 1596 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:31.819 the Phil, what's up? Sincere hypocrite. Jay, I'm not an accelerationist, 1597 01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:34.109 but I'm sick of kicking the can down the road, 1598 01:38:34.229 --> 01:38:36.250 delaying the inevitable. What is the reasonable