Full Transcript for Epi237: Kick 2017 Video with Director Steve Hanft

Hayden. 00:04:28.899 --> 00:04:31.719 Come on, he's looking at the gun laws. You're glass half full, 00:04:31.779 --> 00:04:35.519 I'm glass half empty. A lot of this stuff sometimes does actually go back to 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.019 how you foster anti-Semitism. 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.819 And look, we won't get into that today, but look, sometimes these things do 00:04:41.819 --> 00:04:43.459 get fostered because of a lack of action. 00:04:43.619 --> 00:04:48.159 And in Australia and Melbourne, particularly where I'm recording from, 00:04:48.714 --> 00:04:54.154 We're almost like the protest state of Australia or city. And I know in Sydney, 00:04:54.234 --> 00:04:56.574 New South Wales, you have to apply for permits to do a protest. 00:04:57.254 --> 00:05:02.434 And people, ironically, this week were applying for protests to be able to protest, 00:05:02.614 --> 00:05:04.874 you know, for Palestine this Sunday at the Sydney Opera House, 00:05:05.014 --> 00:05:08.354 which tonally, you know, you just like to think, come on guys, 00:05:08.514 --> 00:05:11.354 just put down your weapons of protest for a week. 00:05:11.354 --> 00:05:14.394 But, uh, look, we won't get political other than to say that, 00:05:14.514 --> 00:05:17.414 you know, for the families and everybody out there and those affected and the 00:05:17.414 --> 00:05:20.194 police and everybody else who were first responders and that, 00:05:20.194 --> 00:05:23.194 that particular first, first responder, the guy who bravely 00:05:23.574 --> 00:05:29.294 intercepted the gunman, if you've seen that video, what a, there's a GoFundMe page for him. Ahmed. 00:05:29.914 --> 00:05:34.014 Yeah. He's already gone a million already. Yeah. And I mean, what a brave guy. 00:05:34.174 --> 00:05:36.354 I mean, he didn't know what, if the gun was still loaded or not, 00:05:36.434 --> 00:05:38.494 but most people around the world have seen the footage. I mean, 00:05:38.614 --> 00:05:42.574 what a, what a, what a hero in probably saving many lives there by intercepting, 00:05:42.654 --> 00:05:46.354 you know, and then he copped two, and, and then he didn't shoot the gunman, 00:05:46.494 --> 00:05:49.134 but he then copped two shots to the arm and the shoulder, I think. 00:05:49.414 --> 00:05:53.154 I was talking to somebody when that came up and they, they thought, 00:05:53.334 --> 00:05:55.474 wow, he's got to be ex-military or something. 00:05:55.614 --> 00:06:00.514 And then he turns out to be a stall holder. He was a tobacco shop owner. Wow. Yeah. 00:06:00.974 --> 00:06:05.594 Wow. And he was, did you see the other angle where he was defending, 00:06:05.934 --> 00:06:10.234 he stopped them? trying to hit somebody else. 00:06:11.494 --> 00:06:17.274 So there was two older men who sadly have passed away that were defending him 00:06:17.274 --> 00:06:19.394 from shooting the children. 00:06:19.594 --> 00:06:22.854 Right. They were all lying on the children. It's just awful, isn't it? 00:06:23.274 -->

00:06:26.274 Yeah, yeah. So look, as I said, you know, this is in our backyard. 00:06:26.414 --> 00:06:30.634 It's tonally, you know, well, not even tonally, you know, emotionally it's probably 00:06:30.634 --> 00:06:35.794 affected most Australians because, as I said, it's foreign to us. I'm not saying it's... 00:06:36.210 --> 00:06:38.350 You know, other countries are worse or better, whatever they're, 00:06:38.410 --> 00:06:41.270 but this just sort of doesn't happen sort of down here at all. 00:06:41.410 --> 00:06:45.790 And we know also this last week at Browns University, I think in America, 00:06:45.910 --> 00:06:48.470 there's a couple of people, you know, maybe shot dead as well, which is terrible. 00:06:48.610 --> 00:06:52.450 And then overnight in the last 24 hours, you may not know this particular guy, 00:06:52.550 --> 00:06:55.610 but a very famous Hollywood director called Rob Reiner, who was unfortunately 00:06:55.610 --> 00:07:00.990 killed in his home and his wife were by, looks likely to be his son stabbed his parents. 00:07:01.190 --> 00:07:06.790 And Rob made some great movies and, you know, as an actor and things like that. 00:07:06.890 --> 00:07:10.690 And he, you know, probably famously made A Few Good Men and When Harry Met Sally. 00:07:10.870 --> 00:07:15.610 And I love his little performance as a cameo in the, as I think the lawyer in 00:07:15.610 --> 00:07:19.950 the Wolf of Wall Street where Leonardo and Joan Hill are trying to justify a 00:07:19.950 --> 00:07:22.470 $27,000 bill at the restaurant. 00:07:22.610 --> 00:07:25.750 And I think we ordered the sides. We've had that problem, haven't we? 00:07:26.150 --> 00:07:30.490 Well, the sides, you know, $27,000, Geordie for sides. 00:07:30.810 --> 00:07:32.950 It might've been his father, actually. It might be Jordan's father in the movie. 00:07:33.030 --> 00:07:36.370 But look, yeah, very sad as well. you know, in Hollywood there, 00:07:36.530 --> 00:07:38.750 you know, I think the son, unfortunately, it looks like, you know, 00:07:38.810 --> 00:07:42.970 he's been charged and that's occurred. So it's just been a real horrible few days. 00:07:43.150 --> 00:07:46.910 But look, we hope our episode today will cheer people up a little bit and we 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:48.090 can pivot a little bit to that. 00:07:48.210 --> 00:07:52.590 And we are excited because I think in the last, you know, week we've done a 00:07:52.590 --> 00:07:55.170 couple of interviews, et cetera, and then we've got a couple of them all lined up. 00:07:55.650 --> 00:07:59.410 And we'll not share a bit about those in a moment, but it is great sort of chatting 00:07:59.410 --> 00:08:02.590 to people who, you know, particularly did film clips for the band back in the 00:08:02.590 --> 00:08:05.350 day, which is where we're going today. Yes, fantastic. 00:08:05.730 --> 00:08:08.290 Yes, we will lighten it up a little bit now. 00:08:08.790 --> 00:08:12.550 And from the dark to the light was a festival. 00:08:12.850 --> 00:08:16.590 So let's jam in a little, let's jam in something that we'll do for the last 00:08:16.590 --> 00:08:20.290 time of the year, which is... Last podcast of the year, guys. Yes. 00:08:20.690 --> 00:08:25.550 Okay. But all dramas aside of Australia recently, Bea, on an inexcess front, how has your week been? 00:08:26.236 --> 00:08:30.476 My week's been pretty good. It was highlighted by a little phone call from Nick 00:08:30.476 --> 00:08:32.636 Egan today. Yeah, that's nice. 00:08:33.176 --> 00:08:40.076 Resurfaced. He's resurfaced. How are you guys going? Send my love to Hayden and the team. 00:08:40.436 --> 00:08:42.216 So he's sending his Christmas luck out. Did he get my owl? 00:08:42.896 --> 00:08:49.196 Oh, maybe. I forgot to ask him. We were both busy, but he just called me and 00:08:49.196 --> 00:08:51.256 wanted to know how the podcast was going. 00:08:51.376 --> 00:08:53.576 And he's so proud of us. 00:08:53.756 --> 00:08:59.096 So thank you, Nick. You are one of our main men that's helped us. 00:08:59.436 --> 00:09:03.976 And I wanted also to announce that a lot of you know about this, 00:09:04.076 --> 00:09:07.916 but we're doing something for Michael's birthday in January that we're all looking 00:09:07.916 --> 00:09:10.056 forward to. It's changed up a little bit. 00:09:10.456 --> 00:09:15.796 I have now got a room at the DYRSL. 00:09:15.896 --> 00:09:19.956 So nobody has to do any walking. We don't have to have two venues happening. 00:09:20.156 --> 00:09:24.616 It's all happening in the one venue. So that's all going to be coming to everyone's 00:09:24.616 --> 00:09:27.936 itineraries that are coming to the shows. 00:09:28.116 --> 00:09:32.576 Don't forget to book your tickets to see Don't Change because that's a separate thing. 00:09:32.596 --> 00:09:37.816 But if you're interested, there are a few tickets left on the bus and you can 00:09:37.816 --> 00:09:45.316 find out all that information on our website, which is inxsaaa.gmail.com. 00:09:45.796 --> 00:09:49.016 Absolutely. And kudos to all the people behind the scenes, yourself mostly doing 00:09:49.016 --> 00:09:52.856 a lion's share of work getting this off the ground. If it's anything like our 00:09:52.856 --> 00:09:55.276 fifth anniversary birthday, I cannot wait. 00:10:13.003 --> 00:10:15.983 Well, we're very excited. We've got a new patron, so we want to welcome them 00:10:15.983 --> 00:10:19.363 aboard and all our overall patrons. So over to you. 00:10:21.843 --> 00:10:25.943 This is Andrew Farris. Hi, this is Kirk. Hey, guys. This is John Farris. 00:10:26.083 --> 00:10:29.783 Hey, this is Gary Gary Beers. Hey, this is Tim Farris. This is Michael Lishans from Nixxess. 00:10:29.983 --> 00:10:32.423 Why don't you come upstairs to first class and give piss with me? 00:10:37.623 --> 00:10:40.963 Well, a big welcome to Stephanie, our latest patron. 00:10:41.263 --> 00:10:46.183 Look forward to hearing about you. in our newsletter later on in the

year. Oh, no! 00:10:55.710 --> 00:11:00.470 And welcome to the podcast. Honorary members. Tim Ferriss, Nick Egan, 00:11:00.650 --> 00:11:04.590 Mark Opitz, Richard Simkin, Cameron Adams, Mary Woods, Darren Jones, 00:11:04.770 --> 00:11:06.710 Paul Jolie and Kerpengilly. 00:11:06.930 --> 00:11:11.950 Our patrons, Carmen, Carrie-Anne, Danielle, Sarah Markham, Sarah Camya, Dr. 00:11:12.090 --> 00:11:18.050 Jim, Katie, Lisa Mack, Anne-Marie, Susan P, Pedro, Mandy, Amanda, 00:11:18.270 --> 00:11:23.950 David, Paul Jolie, Amanda V, Ella, Ryder, Tony, Erica, Abigail, 00:11:24.650 --> 00:11:26.110 Stefan, Jim, David. 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Time for the news. 00:12:26.730 --> 00:12:32.710 Hi there, this is Kirk, and you're listening to InXS Access All Areas podcast with Hayden and Bea. 00:12:33.210 --> 00:12:35.430 And now, it's time for the news. 00:12:38.903 --> 00:12:42.763 All right, Bea, well, the last news of the year, a little bit of a jam-packed 00:12:42.763 --> 00:12:45.243 one here. There's some really cool videos going out. 00:12:45.363 --> 00:12:50.223 I saw, I think it might have been Laurel Snyder, who's a very prolific inaccessory. 00:12:51.003 --> 00:12:54.063 She finds some great photos, doesn't she? I might have heard her episode because 00:12:54.063 --> 00:12:58.523 I did see, I think she posted the Never Tear Us Apart first-time reaction montage 00:12:58.523 --> 00:13:01.503 of all the people. Have you seen that yet? No. 00:13:02.123 --> 00:13:04.923 Okay, you got to see it. Everybody out there, it's fantastic. 00:13:05.143 --> 00:13:08.903 So you could probably go to YouTube or her site to see it. Oh, brilliant. 00:13:09.283 --> 00:13:11.763 We did talk about that last week. There's also a couple of cool ones. 00:13:11.883 --> 00:13:14.503 There's one on the One Thing video with the American guy who, 00:13:14.503 --> 00:13:17.743 you know, can't pronounce the name of the, actually he can pronounce the name 00:13:17.743 --> 00:13:20.583 of the band, but he couldn't pronounce Michael's name. He did the old Hutchison 00:13:20.583 --> 00:13:21.983 thing, which is quite right. 00:13:22.443 --> 00:13:25.283 But he does a One Thing reaction video, which is very good. 00:13:25.823 --> 00:13:29.043 There's another one for Original Sin where the girl cannot stop talking about 00:13:29.043 --> 00:13:31.463 Michael, how handsome he is. 00:13:31.903 --> 00:13:34.723 There's one for Never Tear Us Apart and one for What You Need at Wembley. 00:13:34.823 --> 00:13:36.443 These are just all recently being posted. 00:13:37.183 --> 00:13:40.623 Also be a little bit of news. There's a great publication called Grunge, 00:13:40.783 --> 00:13:44.603 which I found quite humorous because they then do their top five songs about 00:13:44.603 --> 00:13:46.783 love, which is not really a grungy thing. 00:13:47.063 --> 00:13:49.063 And they highlight Patti Smith, 00:13:49.223 --> 00:13:52.543 I think Jimi Hendrix, that beautiful Mazzy star song, Fade Into You. 00:13:53.183 --> 00:13:56.403 The Air Yeah is a song called Maps. And they do a little bit of an article on 00:13:56.403 --> 00:14:01.163 Never Tear Us Apart, which is worth a read on the grunge.com publication. 00:14:02.023 --> 00:14:06.983 Also to the ABC, this particular week came out and said, what are the best sounds of 2025? 00:14:07.403 --> 00:14:11.503 And NXS made the best three there for that, being the Never Tear Us Apart Triple 00:14:11.503 --> 00:14:14.563 J, which is an affiliate of ABC here. 00:14:14.903 --> 00:14:20.583 They also highlight a little bit about the ACDC bagpipe get together in Melbourne 00:14:20.583 --> 00:14:25.603 Fed Square, which is a sound of 2025 indelibly etched. 00:14:26.543 --> 00:14:30.823 Hayden, check your phone right now. I don't know if you know that this, 00:14:31.083 --> 00:14:34.783 because it ties in with what you've just said. It's very sad news. 00:14:35.770 --> 00:14:38.870 And Bronskov's wife was laid to rest Adelaide in Australia. So, 00:14:38.950 --> 00:14:41.550 oh, that's very interesting. Yeah. Okay, valet. 00:14:42.550 --> 00:14:45.710 Also, too, David Coulthard, the ex-Scottish Grand Prix driver, 00:14:45.930 --> 00:14:47.930 came at this point and did a bit of an article on the history of the Australian 00:14:47.930 --> 00:14:51.070 Grand Prix in Adelaide, the shift to Melbourne. 00:14:51.210 --> 00:14:56.090 Then he said, oh, I remember being there in the early 90s when Tina Turner played 00:14:56.090 --> 00:14:58.770 and NXS played. And NXS were huge. 00:14:58.890 --> 00:15:01.850 And I was just, I can't remember them being involved in that gig there. 00:15:01.930 --> 00:15:06.190 I know they might have done the touring car stuff later, But a cool little write-up from David. 00:15:06.930 --> 00:15:08.670 Also, too, December, as we know, 00:15:08.810 --> 00:15:11.250 and we've highlighted, it's probably the month of more anniversaries. 00:15:11.490 --> 00:15:12.790 One, we're going to save to the 00:15:12.790 --> 00:15:15.990 end of the show, but another one we will acknowledge a couple of things. 00:15:16.310 --> 00:15:20.110

But you know the great In Search of Excellence video, the long-form video in 00:15:20.110 --> 00:15:24.670 1988 where the Prime Minister speaks very proudly about NXS. Yes. 00:15:24.890 --> 00:15:27.570 And Michael says at the end of it, what do you think of where you are now? 00:15:27.670 --> 00:15:30.050 And he goes, well, maybe finally we're not the underdogs. Yes. 00:15:30.270 --> 00:15:34.610 That one, well, that particular video turns 36. I would love to see two things 00:15:34.610 --> 00:15:42.730 one that updated to a something modernized and secondly a new documentary that covers the last 36 years. 00:15:43.650 --> 00:15:48.430 Yeah also too before the show B we talked about the song disappear in a different context but, 00:15:49.022 --> 00:15:54.042 This month, about 34 years ago, I think Vernon Reed, the major songwriter for 00:15:54.042 --> 00:15:58.482 Living Colour, I remember him introducing, saying, we're very special to have this band here. 00:15:58.702 --> 00:16:02.942 The band played Disappear at the American Music Awards, which was very timely. 00:16:03.082 --> 00:16:06.182 And I think it probably helped it, you know, search the highest sort of charting 00:16:06.182 --> 00:16:09.102 single off the X album there at number eight in the Billboard chart. 00:16:09.282 --> 00:16:12.662 And also, B, there's a little bit of information circulating in the last 12 00:16:12.662 --> 00:16:17.282 hours about ex-NXS manager in major courtroom battle in the UK. 00:16:17.282 --> 00:16:20.662 Hey, well, I did open up the article and I would just say, people don't bother. 00:16:21.062 --> 00:16:25.982 It was some person who looked after the European leg of NXS ages ago, 00:16:26.122 --> 00:16:29.842 but they're making out they're the ex-manager and somehow they were pivotal. 00:16:29.962 --> 00:16:32.742 Like I'd never even heard of this lady, you know. Oh, it's a woman. 00:16:33.382 --> 00:16:38.742 Yeah. And I thought, oh, is it Martha? Is it Chris Murphy? Is it kids in court or whatever? 00:16:39.042 --> 00:16:42.202 It's nothing at all to do with anything meaningful. 00:16:42.402 --> 00:16:46.202 So just do yourself a favor. You don't really need to open up that particular 00:16:46.202 --> 00:16:49.642 one. A bit like that boat that everyone thought that was my cause. 00:16:49.762 --> 00:16:52.942 Is it my core done? Even I was out there promoting that one. 00:16:53.062 --> 00:16:55.142 So we've got to be a little bit careful about what we do. Yeah. 00:16:56.502 --> 00:16:59.622 Don't go there. If it whiffs it, it is it. Yeah. 00:16:59.742 --> 00:17:03.882 Another cool article from American Songwriter, a great online publication that 00:17:03.882 --> 00:17:08.622 has, I think the title is three songs from 1987 that sound shockingly fresh now. 00:17:09.362 --> 00:17:13.202 One's Need You Tonight. The other ones I think are U2, still haven't found what I'm looking for. 00:17:13.661 --> 00:17:17.401 And the third one, I think, might be True Faith, I think, from New Order. 00:17:17.561 --> 00:17:19.461 So good little read on that. 00:17:19.701 --> 00:17:26.921 Those things always are cool to sort of have a look at and sort of read and reminisce because, 00:17:27.561 --> 00:17:31.561 yeah, people go back with a bit of a – and this is why we do love NXSBs, 00:17:31.581 --> 00:17:35.641 because the music still sounds very shitty, you know, the stuff, 00:17:35.761 --> 00:17:36.521 which is why we love them. 00:17:36.721 --> 00:17:39.741 Yeah, and relevant with the lyrics. Yes. 00:17:40.261 --> 00:17:43.261 And again, look, there are certain bands that I think back in, 00:17:43.661 --> 00:17:46.001 like, you know, without criticizing, I think Michael Jackson's, 00:17:46.021 --> 00:17:48.961 I think the Thriller album sounds really bad 40 years later. 00:17:49.561 --> 00:17:52.941 And it's, pardon the pun, I say bad, because that was the name of his next album. 00:17:53.101 --> 00:17:56.941 But some of the songs, I think Billie Jean and Beat It still sound okay, 00:17:56.941 --> 00:18:01.681 but Thriller and The Girl Is Mine and Pretty Young Thing, and maybe not something, 00:18:01.901 --> 00:18:04.941 it still sounds good, but a lot of the production sounded very synthy, 00:18:05.641 --> 00:18:08.361 and very dated towards that particular sort of time. 00:18:08.361 --> 00:18:10.621 Yeah, those beats in the background. 00:18:10.801 --> 00:18:14.701 Yeah, yeah. These John's beats were covered with his own beats over the top. 00:18:14.941 --> 00:18:20.101 Yeah. I think songs like, do-do-do-do, da-da-da, I mean, what the heck, you know? 00:18:20.261 --> 00:18:23.261 That's all you ever mean to me, you know? Well, look, it's... 00:18:23.261 --> 00:18:25.061 And then there's the stalker songs and whatever. 00:18:25.781 --> 00:18:28.601 Well, look, I think Everybody Take Still sounds good, but look, 00:18:28.681 --> 00:18:29.921 music can date a little bit. 00:18:30.061 --> 00:18:33.681 And look, we've often said, I think I send a message sounds a bit dated to me. 00:18:33.761 --> 00:18:37.141 I can't really listen to that song much anymore because it is... 00:18:37.141 --> 00:18:39.441 Which one, sorry? I send a message by Enix says, 00:18:40.011 --> 00:18:43.851 Well, look, again, some people love it, and look, probably our highest selling 00:18:43.851 --> 00:18:48.711 memorabilia from our podcast was the Send a Message single, so for that reason, 00:18:48.711 --> 00:18:52.171 we love it, but phonically, it's probably dated a little bit. 00:18:52.311 --> 00:18:57.091 But yeah, so in terms of that, news-wise, there's also one other little anniversary. 00:18:57.091 --> 00:19:02.771 I think it's 2002 in December. They did release that really cool red double 00:19:02.771 --> 00:19:07.671 CD, which is the greatest hits, and I think it was a bit of a slow burn at the 00:19:07.671 --> 00:19:11.711 time because it only went to sort of number eight or number nine in the sort of the charts there.

00:19:11.831 --> 00:19:16.491 And I had a little bit of a quote from Gary. I'm just trying to find as I'm talking to you about. 00:19:17.154 --> 00:19:21.354 Oh, here it is. I'd like to read it out because it was something that was posted 00:19:21.354 --> 00:19:24.274 by our team on Facebook through our podcast, Side B. 00:19:24.514 --> 00:19:28.074 I think credit to our team behind the scenes who were able to get a quote from 00:19:28.074 --> 00:19:29.894 Gary here. And I'll read it out. 00:19:30.014 --> 00:19:35.194 It says, in November 2002, an interview with Andrian or Adrian Patout from Mixed 00:19:35.194 --> 00:19:39.174 Down Monthly, Gary Beers would say about the year's compilation, which is one reference. 00:19:39.414 --> 00:19:41.814 It was released this week and debuted at number nine in Australia. 00:19:41.994 --> 00:19:44.954 And I guess we were due for a new compilation because our last compilation, 00:19:44.954 --> 00:19:47.734 The greatest hits was out eight or nine years ago. 00:19:48.114 --> 00:19:51.234 A fair bit of water has gone under the bridge since then. We have also released, 00:19:51.474 --> 00:19:54.374 we also put out some unreleased tracks that we thought needed a home. 00:19:54.714 --> 00:19:56.894 So lo and behold, the time seemed to be right. 00:19:57.274 --> 00:20:01.094 Especially with Australia, us winning the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Aries last year. 00:20:01.534 --> 00:20:04.914 I think the perceptions of InXS have turned around. So we're a pretty credible 00:20:04.914 --> 00:20:06.474 part of Australia's music history. 00:20:06.734 --> 00:20:10.594 Very humble. That's nice. Yeah. It took us a while to get over the ban with 00:20:10.594 --> 00:20:12.094 the dead lead singer bullshit. 00:20:12.654 --> 00:20:15.194 You know the press can be pretty cruel and basically be found that a lot of 00:20:15.194 --> 00:20:19.774 the people just take it for granted that you are what they read about, which is not the case. 00:20:19.934 --> 00:20:24.674 We're a band with a great musical legacy, and that's what I think has finally got through. 00:20:25.034 --> 00:20:28.894 The compilation has been certified triple platinum since, selling over 200,000 00:20:28.894 --> 00:20:31.434 copies and peaking at number eight in the Yara chart. 00:20:31.574 --> 00:20:35.034 So that's been posted by our team behind the scenes, but I thought it was just 00:20:35.034 --> 00:20:38.774 worth highlighting it's 23 years ago, and obviously since then they've had a 00:20:38.774 --> 00:20:42.614 greatest hits that's come out that's gone diamond, which is eight, nine times platinum. 00:20:42.814 --> 00:20:47.094 But, yeah, a little anniversary and a great sort of quote from Gary that I thought 00:20:47.094 --> 00:20:54.254 probably also expressed a little bit of that, you know, post-pushback around 1999, 1999, 2000, 00:20:54.814 --> 00:20:58.794 you know, dealing with the Dead Lead Singer and all the scuttlebutt and everything 00:20:58.794 --> 00:21:00.694 there. I mean, it was such a pylon, you know. 00:21:01.394 --> 00:21:07.134 Still is when you put pictures out of getting dead. People pile on those who go through it, yeah. 00:21:07.414 --> 00:21:11.094 I always find that people pile on those who are going through adversity really lacked character. 00:21:11.434 --> 00:21:16.514 And, you know, even if, God forbid, Jon Bon Jovi passed away and whatever there, 00:21:16.594 --> 00:21:18.174 who's not my favourite band, sorry, Dr. Jim, 00:21:18.775 --> 00:21:21.815 If anyone was to pile on them if they decided to tour again or do something 00:21:21.815 --> 00:21:25.335 in the future, I mean, you know, you didn't go through it. They went through it. 00:21:25.515 --> 00:21:28.755 They went through it. Ease up a little bit, you know? Yeah, exactly. So. 00:21:29.415 --> 00:21:37.875 Talking about Gary and Asher Moon, they're asking for a street team. 00:21:37.995 --> 00:21:43.075 So if you want to know more about Gary Beers and what he's doing, 00:21:43.475 --> 00:21:45.435 try and look up his new band. 00:21:45.635 --> 00:21:48.955 I say new. it's been going as long as we have called Asher 00:21:48.955 --> 00:21:51.955 Moon and it sounds like they might be doing some more touring 00:21:51.955 --> 00:21:54.835 which would be great so yeah if you want to 00:21:54.835 --> 00:22:00.575 get on board go ahead and become one of their street team yeah excellent and 00:22:00.575 --> 00:22:03.195 it just used to have those as well back in the day little street team things 00:22:03.195 --> 00:22:06.595 which are basically people running around doing promo sort of work for free 00:22:06.595 --> 00:22:10.375 or volunteer and it could be via flyers it could be a booth it could be you 00:22:10.375 --> 00:22:13.275 know generating social media sort of content and things like that. 00:22:13.455 --> 00:22:17.875 So it might be sort of in aid of spreading the love. Is that here in Australia 00:22:17.875 --> 00:22:19.055 or in America or everywhere? 00:22:19.215 --> 00:22:25.195 In America. I don't know because I must admit, I thought, have I got time to do that too? 00:22:27.135 --> 00:22:30.795 Look, there's people listening to our show who could be part of that and stuff 00:22:30.795 --> 00:22:34.695 like that as well and may want to sort of do that who like Asherman. 00:22:34.835 --> 00:22:39.835 I know when I went to the gig, I saw some podcast listeners who were at that particular gig as well. 00:22:40.555 --> 00:22:43.775 But, B, I hold back one little nugget of an anniversary to later in the show 00:22:43.775 --> 00:22:47.495 for a very good reason, but that is our final news of the year. 00:22:47.935 --> 00:22:51.675 Hey, this is Tim Ferriss. Big shout-out to Hayden and B. Also want to say hello 00:22:51.675 --> 00:22:53.535 to all the listeners and NXS fans. 00:23:13.684 --> 00:23:18.384 Hi, this is Ella from Nibbleburg, the Netherlands. You're listening to In Access 00:23:18.384 -->

00:23:20.684 Access All Areas with Hayden and Dee. 00:23:20.944 --> 00:23:23.364 And now it's time for the topic of the week. 00:23:26.104 --> 00:23:31.044 All right, Bea. Well, our topic today, I've been on a bit of a tearaway in inviting 00:23:31.044 --> 00:23:33.744 lots and lots of guests. And we had a bit of traction and some feedback. 00:23:33.964 --> 00:23:37.304 And we're very, very excited to bank a couple of episodes. 00:23:37.544 --> 00:23:41.484 We've got an episode of the new year from the lady who did the please. She got that film clip. 00:23:41.924 --> 00:23:43.904 And we will go through a bit more in the new year about her. 00:23:44.204 --> 00:23:49.284 But today we're actually interviewing a very, very famous video digital content 00:23:49.284 --> 00:23:54.504 guy, a very famous guy who originally worked with people such as Beck and won 00:23:54.504 --> 00:23:56.624 MTV Video of the Year for the song Loser. 00:23:56.744 --> 00:23:59.144 He's worked with The Cure, Primal Scream, some of our favorites. 00:23:59.524 --> 00:24:03.944 But he did the KICK 2017 film clip and his name is Steve Huff. 00:24:04.304 --> 00:24:09.244 So we're very, very excited to throw to LA now and welcome Steve to our podcast. 00:24:09.444 --> 00:24:15.184 NXS Access All Areas. Welcome, Steve Hanft, to our podcast for what I think 00:24:15.184 --> 00:24:19.124 bees are roughly around our 237th episode, isn't it, I think? 00:24:19.344 --> 00:24:22.344 Oh, let's not count it in. We don't know when we're going to be putting this 00:24:22.344 --> 00:24:23.824 one in. Right. Fair enough. 00:24:24.104 --> 00:24:29.324 Just to give you an insight, Steve, we set up this podcast about five years ago during COVID. 00:24:29.764 --> 00:24:32.324 I'm from Australia. My co-host bee is from England. 00:24:33.044 --> 00:24:37.144 I reside in Melbourne, down the southern area of Australia. Bea sort of up on 00:24:37.144 --> 00:24:42.544 more the north coastal areas of Coffs Harbour, which is halfway between probably 00:24:42.544 --> 00:24:44.964 Sydney and Brisbane, isn't it really? Yeah, absolutely. 00:24:45.204 --> 00:24:47.164 Right, right bang in the middle on the coast. 00:24:47.464 --> 00:24:50.404 We set up this podcast to sort of acknowledge the career, obviously, 00:24:50.424 --> 00:24:52.124 as a young guy growing up in this country. 00:24:52.544 --> 00:24:56.624 I was very proud and very, very incessant on my following of Inexcess, 00:24:56.764 --> 00:25:01.284 and then they had global success, and Bea happened to visit them on tour when 00:25:01.284 --> 00:25:03.104 they were in England in the mid to late 80s. 00:25:03.504 --> 00:25:07.844 Bea and I met at the Michael Hutchins documentary launch by the director Richard 00:25:07.844 --> 00:25:09.244 Lowenstein, who you probably know of, 00:25:09.737 --> 00:25:13.737 Also did a lot of the clips off the Kick album, and Bea and I met there, 00:25:13.817 --> 00:25:17.837 and we decided to set up a podcast to, one, acknowledge the career, 00:25:17.957 --> 00:25:21.737 and number two, see this band finally get inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame, 00:25:21.757 --> 00:25:22.937 which hasn't happened yet, Steve. 00:25:23.177 --> 00:25:25.597 I don't know why. One of the biggest bands ever. 00:25:25.917 --> 00:25:30.417 I mean... Yeah. Now, for our listeners, Steve, we'd like to introduce you, 00:25:30.477 --> 00:25:37.237 obviously, for the In Excess Kick revisit clip that you did about seven, eight years ago. 00:25:37.237 --> 00:25:40.877 Look, Steve, you've had a fantastic career in terms of, I guess, 00:25:40.997 --> 00:25:43.637 in the early days and still to this day playing music. 00:25:43.637 --> 00:25:48.237 And you happened to, I believe, come across a young Beck and formed some musical 00:25:48.237 --> 00:25:52.397 bands with him and went on to actually direct his very famous and iconic Loser 00:25:52.397 --> 00:25:55.857 film clip, which I guess is only one aspect of your great career. 00:25:56.917 --> 00:25:57.997 Sure. I mean... 00:25:58.619 --> 00:26:02.659 It's a big part of my career. You know, the Loser video really hooked me up. 00:26:02.879 --> 00:26:11.039 Just using all my experimental filmmaking skills to experiment and come up with a new kind of video, 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:17.999 it really helped me to break to the big audiences of MTV. Yeah. 00:26:18.619 --> 00:26:26.859 And one of the things which is really nice tying, and Bea's from the UK and 00:26:26.859 --> 00:26:30.859 I know obviously a bit of a Cure fan growing up Bea and obviously Primal Scream 00:26:30.859 --> 00:26:32.799 and I know there are a couple of bands. 00:26:32.959 --> 00:26:35.759 I was sort of doing my research on you in the last week. I'm back. 00:26:36.339 --> 00:26:40.119 Well, I'm back obviously and in excess and things, but sort of interesting when 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.519 there's these things in your childhood and your adulthood and you grow up and 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.259 you really love and then you realise this is the same guy that was involved 00:26:46.259 --> 00:26:49.759 in a lot of these bands, which I guess is credit to, you know, 00:26:49.859 --> 00:26:51.019 a lot of your creative work, Steve. 00:26:51.239 --> 00:26:57.139 Thank you. Yeah, working with the British groups has been one of the greatest 00:26:57.139 --> 00:26:58.899 things that's ever happened to me. 00:26:59.619 --> 00:27:05.539 So much talent with these bands that I got to work with, Stone Roses. 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:12.339 Wow. The Cure and Primal Scream and others, Beth Orton. 00:27:14.439 --> 00:27:21.519 It's so much different the way people learn music in England than America. In Los Angeles, it's... 00:27:21.659 --> 00:27:26.359 It's a little bit lazier here, I think, as far as the musicians. 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:34.079 And then you meet these people in England and they're so good, a lot of chops, you know? 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:38.599 Do you think climate has an

effect on that? In England, they're inside for probably 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.419 nine months a year, and in LA, they're probably outside for 11. 00:27:42.439 --> 00:27:45.539 Yeah, I think so. I think so, yeah. It's just crazy. 00:27:46.097 --> 00:27:50.697 And then it's just so important, you know, like, you know, it's always been 00:27:50.697 --> 00:27:52.677 kind of a religion to me, rock and roll. 00:27:52.677 --> 00:27:56.437 And then when I meet these people over in England and we're working on the videos, 00:27:56.997 --> 00:28:00.457 it's the same for them. And they're playing these cassettes, 00:28:00.637 --> 00:28:02.797 you know, when we drive around, we're prepping the videos. 00:28:03.237 --> 00:28:08.837 The cassettes are all these amazing old American bands from the 60s, 00:28:08.977 --> 00:28:10.837 you know, like that I haven't even heard of. 00:28:10.977 --> 00:28:15.437 And like a lot of the people in England are really hip to it, you know, and like. 00:28:16.097 --> 00:28:20.917 Because, you know, out here, you know, we move on into the R&B and the hip-hop 00:28:20.917 --> 00:28:23.377 and the newer bands and stuff. 00:28:23.537 --> 00:28:31.577 But out in London, you know, the kids are still rocking the 60s and 50s rare 00:28:31.577 --> 00:28:34.817 sides. And it's pretty amazing with cassette tapes. 00:28:35.037 --> 00:28:39.897 And, like, I get excited about that, how inspired everybody is. 00:28:39.897 --> 00:28:48.257 Yeah, so you would have been around the early 90s with Stone Roses and Primal 00:28:48.257 --> 00:28:50.777 Scream, and were you up in Manchester at that time? 00:28:50.897 --> 00:28:57.617 Let's see, no, it's a funny story, I was doing some videos at Geffen Records, 00:28:57.897 --> 00:29:00.577 which is where Becca was signed at the time, 00:29:00.917 --> 00:29:08.057 and I was getting a couple of jobs with some indie rock bands from the US, and then... 00:29:08.765 --> 00:29:12.245 They could tell I was a little bit frustrated with the jobs. 00:29:12.405 --> 00:29:18.905 I took the jobs, but I was like, you know, I wanted like to work with some even better artists. 00:29:19.105 --> 00:29:23.845 And then on my way out, David Geffen, you know, the famous David Geffen, 00:29:24.045 --> 00:29:28.145 he comes up and he's like, ah, you know, I want to give you the stone roses 00:29:28.145 --> 00:29:29.685 video. Do you like stone roses? 00:29:29.865 --> 00:29:36.585 And I was like, I love stone roses. And so we shot in Los Angeles at this like old silent movie stage. 00:29:36.905 --> 00:29:40.725 And we actually shot with like, silent movie cameras. 00:29:41.085 --> 00:29:43.205 Which video was that video, Steve? 00:29:43.765 --> 00:29:49.785 It was called Love Spreads. And Manny, who is in Primal Scream and Stone Roses, just died. 00:29:50.205 --> 00:29:54.725 Yeah. The piece player. He is, like, so legendary, you know? 00:29:54.885 --> 00:30:01.005 Like, some of the most danceable tunes ever, you know? And Stone Roses or the 00:30:01.005 --> 00:30:02.665 bass line were by Manny, you know? 00:30:02.845 --> 00:30:06.965 So, like, everything's... Well, to me, Stone Roses are better than Oasis. 00:30:08.081 --> 00:30:14.741 Yeah, they're one of the first Britpop bands, you know, that enjoyed a vision. 00:30:15.381 --> 00:30:20.321 Inspiral Carpets and Happy Mondays. Right. Yeah. 00:30:20.961 --> 00:30:26.281 That movie, 24-Hour Party People, was pretty good. That was good. I really enjoyed that. 00:30:26.641 --> 00:30:33.261 It might be one of my famously often quoted movies, Steve, where the actual 00:30:33.261 --> 00:30:38.521 titular character, i think steve coogan is caught in the van in a compromising position with a woman. 00:30:39.261 --> 00:30:42.021 And his wife opens the back van and and and she 00:30:42.021 --> 00:30:44.841 looks at him in a very compromising position and he says 00:30:44.841 --> 00:30:47.941 honey it's not what it looks like it's not what it looks like yeah 00:30:47.941 --> 00:30:53.421 he's so funny steve coogan oh yeah yeah he's he's fantastic and look you know 00:30:53.421 --> 00:30:56.361 with you know the stuff you mentioned about the stone roses i mean a song like 00:30:56.361 --> 00:31:01.481 fool's gold is almost on daily repeat here on TV shows as a sort of a sonic 00:31:01.481 --> 00:31:05.181 sort of musical soundtrack to football games and things like that. 00:31:05.281 --> 00:31:09.321 But I think they definitely inspired Oasis B, didn't they, from their success 00:31:09.321 --> 00:31:11.241 and movements back in the UK? Yeah. 00:31:11.621 --> 00:31:14.581 I mean, there's so many bands at that time. The Verve as well. 00:31:14.781 --> 00:31:18.141 Did you have much to do with that? No, I'm a fan. 00:31:18.541 --> 00:31:24.621 It was interesting, right, how the Stones recently let them have the sample. 00:31:24.781 --> 00:31:29.121 There was that big lawsuit with the string section, sample from the Rolling 00:31:29.121 --> 00:31:33.541 Stones, and then recently the Stones were like, ah, forget it, you can have it. 00:31:33.661 --> 00:31:40.401 After 20 seconds of songwriting royalties, Mick and Keith decided to give some 00:31:40.401 --> 00:31:42.321 prums to Richard Ashcroft. 00:31:43.221 --> 00:31:46.501 Finally. Yeah. It was a good sample. 00:31:47.041 --> 00:31:50.701 Oh, yeah. I mean, it was better than the original Stones version. 00:31:50.821 --> 00:31:53.061 It was on one of those orchestral albums, wasn't it? You know, 00:31:53.141 --> 00:31:56.961 the orchestral version, the Andrew Alheim Orchestra or whatever, you know? 00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:01.260 Yeah, I didn't even inherit the original. Yeah. Look, what we thought we'd do, 00:32:01.340 --> 00:32:05.720 we would kick off, pardon the pun, with the kick video. We were very, very keen to get you on. 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.480 This sort of came out of the blue for us NXS fans a few years back, 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.880 where I guess NXS

management must have commissioned a 2017 30th anniversary 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.960 redo video or a video of such. 00:32:19.340 --> 00:32:22.960 Tell us about the brief, and how did it come about for you to get involved? 00:32:23.280 --> 00:32:26.300 Okay, well, the track didn't have a video. 00:32:26.780 --> 00:32:31.120 No. And it was the title track of the album. It was never officially a single, 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.440 but it was definitely a radio playlist song. 00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:37.180 But it never had an original video. That's wrong. So it never had a video. 00:32:37.360 --> 00:32:42.480 And so, but I guess they call what I did a promo film. But it's very close to a video. 00:32:42.780 --> 00:32:50.280 I was recommended to Chris Murphy, who was the manager of NXS for many years, to write a screenplay. 00:32:50.280 --> 00:32:59.200 A couple years or a year before the NXS video, the NXS kick promo film that we did together. 00:32:59.420 --> 00:33:03.480 So I wrote this whole screenplay for him and it was an amazing job. 00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:13.180 He flew me out to the Daintree in Australia and we saw the entire rainforest and it was incredible. 00:33:13.860 --> 00:33:19.540 And then he left me there in the jungle for like two weeks and he went back home and he was like, 00:33:19.540 --> 00:33:24.900 write this you know you're gonna get the vibes here i never had a job like that 00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:30.120 and so he's just this incredible person so then like he kept coming back to 00:33:30.120 --> 00:33:34.580 los angeles and we would go down i would go down to his hotel and like they 00:33:34.580 --> 00:33:39.100 had a nice cafe bar there and we would just be drinking wine and, 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.140 brainstorming all kinds of stuff and you know he knew i was doing a lot of videos 00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:50.080 you know forever hundreds of videos directing and he was like. 00:33:50.950 --> 00:33:54.050 We're not going to do the feature right now. We're putting that on hold. 00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:58.510 And I was all like depressed. And he was like, but you're going to do the new 00:33:58.510 --> 00:34:01.950 NXS, you know, film with skateboarding. 00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:04.450 And I was like, okay, okay, great. 00:34:04.710 --> 00:34:07.110 He was like, you're not excited. 00:34:07.430 --> 00:34:14.630 And I was like, I was bummed about the feature, you know, because I was first hired to write it. 00:34:14.770 --> 00:34:17.850 And then he was like, now you're going to direct it. And so I was going to get 00:34:17.850 --> 00:34:19.750 a directing job on a big feature. 00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:24.730 But anyway, so I was like, no, I'm excited. I'm excited. I love NXS. 00:34:24.910 --> 00:34:28.950 Let's do this. And he's real good friends with the skateboarder's manager. 00:34:28.950 --> 00:34:31.150 The skateboarder's named LeAndre Sanders. 00:34:31.470 --> 00:34:33.230 He was there at the meeting, the manager. 00:34:33.830 --> 00:34:37.950 I think his name is Ben. I forgot his last name. We started talking all about 00:34:37.950 --> 00:34:39.810 this skateboarder, LeAndre Sanders. 00:34:40.430 --> 00:34:45.790 He's a rough gangster kid. His parents were gangsters, but he's not a gangster. 00:34:46.350 --> 00:34:49.030 And he got out of it by just like... 00:34:49.750 --> 00:34:53.630 I mean, maybe not his parents, but a lot of people in his family were gangsters. 00:34:53.850 --> 00:35:00.270 And so he got out of it and moved to Venice and just like got some friends there 00:35:00.270 --> 00:35:07.270 and just became like the most, the greatest, one of the greatest skateboarders from Venice. 00:35:07.850 --> 00:35:13.090 Now, without racially profiling, is that the black gentleman in the clip who gets the girl at the end? 00:35:13.530 --> 00:35:17.490 Yes. Yes, that's him. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's LeAndre Sanders. 00:35:17.490 --> 00:35:21.750 They call him the man with no stance Because he can go goofy foot and regular foot Yeah. 00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:28.090 And it's crazy, he can do both Wow, it doesn't matter And he learned how to 00:35:28.090 --> 00:35:31.370 skateboard regular foot And then when he started skating vertical You know, 00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:34.850 like empty pools and stuff He started going goofy foot And so, 00:35:34.850 --> 00:35:39.970 that was pretty incredible And then, yeah, he's just kind of like a star on 00:35:39.970 --> 00:35:44.010 the internet You know, he's like more of an internet star He actually is a pro 00:35:44.010 --> 00:35:45.250 skateboarder He has his own. 00:35:46.179 --> 00:35:49.039 Skateboard model and stuff but he does 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.739 a lot of commercials and things and he has 00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:57.119 a whole career out of it and so anyway we got leandre i was like three other 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.319 skaters who are like really good who can blast airs you know i want aerials 00:36:01.319 --> 00:36:06.479 and he was like okay and then they came and we just kind of improvised the whole 00:36:06.479 --> 00:36:10.499 thing you know like we didn't have too much of a plan but other than like, 00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:14.879 trying to get like a lot of long lines through the park so they could do a bunch 00:36:14.879 --> 00:36:19.719 of tricks in a row So we lined up like four cameras and then we brought in the 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.699 lights because we wanted to get the night, 00:36:21.919 --> 00:36:26.219 you know, and so we lit it and and that was really cool. 00:36:26.419 --> 00:36:30.859 And then, you know, the bass player of NXS was there, Gary. 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.999 I was like, you got to get in the bowl with us and like be damned with the skaters, 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.759 you know, partying and like getting excited and bringing all the energy of the 00:36:38.759 --> 00:36:43.139 bass player, you know, because blasting the song kick and the album. 00:36:43.839 -->

00:36:46.679 And it was really exciting you know to have him 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.779 there and like and we interviewed gary in 00:36:49.779 --> 00:36:52.579 january this year and he he loved the clip and loved 00:36:52.579 --> 00:36:56.079 what you did it just so happens he lives in la he's only one member of the band 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:59.559 who lives overseas that would have been a lovely little flourish there there's 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.359 a few little flourishes in the clip but that one really sort of was a nice little 00:37:03.359 --> 00:37:08.719 touch you know yeah it was exciting to meet him you know just growing up like 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.699 watching a lot of surfing movies, 00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:16.499 you know, videos when we were kids, and they had some like rare NXS on there, 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.619 you know, like not their main hits, and it was like, we would be seeing those songs over and over. 00:37:22.305 --> 00:37:26.805 Because we'd be watching those videos over and over. It was before the internet, you know? Yeah. 00:37:27.065 --> 00:37:30.285 I was doing some research the other day. There was a surfing video called Young 00:37:30.285 --> 00:37:34.285 Guns, and I think they're in that particular soundtrack or that movie. 00:37:34.565 --> 00:37:35.825 Have you heard of the performers? 00:37:36.425 --> 00:37:40.365 I have, yeah. Yeah, that one. You know, Warren Miller does some great, 00:37:40.365 --> 00:37:44.125 you know, skiing videos with music and things as well. 00:37:44.265 --> 00:37:47.305 I guess the surfing's a similar counterpoint to 00:37:47.305 --> 00:37:50.205 some of those things where music really does fit in nicely to 00:37:50.205 --> 00:37:53.325 some of those action scenes that you've sort of captured in this this 00:37:53.325 --> 00:37:55.965 clip you know sure yeah some of the 00:37:55.965 --> 00:37:59.625 creatives flew out from london from universal 00:37:59.625 --> 00:38:02.805 they all got these like posh rooms at 00:38:02.805 --> 00:38:07.885 at the ritz and then they were like here's the treatment and they were like 00:38:07.885 --> 00:38:12.485 you know change it steve and make it your style and i came back and i was like 00:38:12.485 --> 00:38:19.485 okay well we gotta you know give this love interest girl some more energy because 00:38:19.485 --> 00:38:21.785 we don't like to objectify women, 00:38:21.785 --> 00:38:25.125 you know, with this kind of youth film. 00:38:25.125 --> 00:38:28.645 We want to, like, give her some confidence. So I was like, I want her to be, 00:38:28.785 --> 00:38:31.045 like, filming all the skaters, you know. 00:38:31.365 --> 00:38:36.225 And so then when they hook up, you know, like, at the end when Leandre hooks 00:38:36.225 --> 00:38:40.045 up with the girl, which is his actual girlfriend at the time. Oh, really? 00:38:40.625 --> 00:38:45.005 And she's a model. She's gorgeous. So when they hook up, it's, 00:38:45.145 --> 00:38:51.045 like, at the end, and it's a natural chemistry and like not so just like it's a pretty girl, 00:38:51.565 --> 00:38:55.965 but it's like a girl who wants to video skateboarding and she looks like she's 00:38:55.965 --> 00:39:01.025 pretty good with a camera so that you like gave it some like you know character development. 00:39:01.305 --> 00:39:04.305 Yeah. So that was what I brought to the treatment. Well it just felt like a 00:39:04.305 --> 00:39:05.985 big gang of mates didn't it? 00:39:06.125 --> 00:39:09.305 Well to me it did. It felt like a big gang of mates all in it together. 00:39:10.145 --> 00:39:16.625 Sure, sure. And then I got my friend to DJ and it's pretty dangerous in Venice at night. 00:39:16.845 --> 00:39:20.885 So like my friend who DJs, like he knows everybody. They call him the mayor 00:39:20.885 --> 00:39:24.765 of Venice. And so like we were safe with his posse around us. 00:39:24.965 --> 00:39:26.185 And so they're all in there. 00:39:26.852 --> 00:39:34.552 All races and everybody's men, women, you know, everybody was over 18. 00:39:34.552 --> 00:39:41.272 It was like a crazy like night party in Venice. It was not like beach blanket bingo. 00:39:41.812 --> 00:39:43.672 Here's more rough and tough than that. 00:39:44.892 --> 00:39:49.832 We'll let you have a swig of beer because I'm known to ask very long-winded questions. 00:39:50.012 --> 00:39:53.692 So I'll throw a few little grenades out there as you enjoy your beer. 00:39:54.212 --> 00:39:58.292 I guess with a song like Kick, it's only sort of three, three and a half minutes 00:39:58.292 --> 00:40:02.192 and you've only got a very limited time to capture a lot of stuff in there. 00:40:02.312 --> 00:40:05.992 But, you know, the video for those who are now in our audience haven't seen 00:40:05.992 --> 00:40:08.652 it yet, or most people probably have, it starts off in the daytime, 00:40:08.872 --> 00:40:14.072 beautiful LA, blue skies, you know, makes the whole world want to be there in dusk. 00:40:14.392 --> 00:40:17.272 How long did it take to record? Was it over a couple of days? 00:40:17.572 --> 00:40:20.672 Did the general public mix in? Was it a controlled set? 00:40:20.912 --> 00:40:24.252 Tell us a bit of a backdrop of that. the general public was 00:40:24.252 --> 00:40:27.472 mixed in it was just a little bit controlled 00:40:27.472 --> 00:40:31.692 i would be like okay can you guys you know move out of this area because we're 00:40:31.692 --> 00:40:35.612 trying to get that backlight but mostly it was just like people were allowed 00:40:35.612 --> 00:40:40.852 to come and jam with us and even skateboarders that weren't like hired would 00:40:40.852 --> 00:40:45.812 get in the session too the shoot was two days most of the skateboarding was 00:40:45.812 --> 00:40:47.192 filmed in one day and then. 00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:52.569 The next day was kind of like getting, showing up and doing the street skating 00:40:52.569 --> 00:40:55.969 where they meet up and

before they get to the park. 00:40:56.229 --> 00:41:03.889 I had to come in on the second day and get some close-ups so that it wasn't just skateboarding. 00:41:04.009 --> 00:41:08.029 So it was more, you know, narrative, like poetic kind of thing. 00:41:08.189 --> 00:41:13.329 It's a lot of vibes. Regard to the sort of setup of the shoot and everything there. 00:41:13.469 --> 00:41:16.329 You had Gary come along. He was probably there for one of those days of the shoots. 00:41:16.829 --> 00:41:19.569 Yeah he was there on the main day and i didn't. 00:41:19.569 --> 00:41:22.449 Know he was coming you know chris murphy told me he's 00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:25.209 like he introduced me and i was like 00:41:25.209 --> 00:41:28.349 oh we got to get you in the video and he was like okay you know he was down 00:41:28.349 --> 00:41:32.189 and then i like we helped him down in the bottom of the ball and then it was 00:41:32.189 --> 00:41:35.409 pretty fun yeah initially i didn't even know he was in the clip because he's 00:41:35.409 --> 00:41:40.329 nicely hidden in and i know with some of your other videos with bands i guess 00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:43.589 sometimes like your kowalski clip with Prime Scream, 00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:46.869 sometimes there's a need to get all four or five band members in a clip. 00:41:47.069 --> 00:41:50.489 With this, you probably didn't really have that pressure of making a band video. 00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:56.269 I guess, as you said earlier, it was more of a promo type sort of setup versus a band video, you know? 00:41:56.709 --> 00:41:59.409 Okay, well, on the cover of the record, there's skateboarding, 00:41:59.509 --> 00:42:01.449 right? On the cover of the record that we're... 00:42:02.069 --> 00:42:07.349 I guess it was at the 30th or the 40th year anniversary, 30th when this came 00:42:07.349 --> 00:42:10.989 out, 30th anniversary of the record called kick. 00:42:11.289 --> 00:42:14.969 And then on the cover of the record, they're skateboarding. So that was Chris 00:42:14.969 --> 00:42:20.569 Murphy's approach. He was like, you know, I want the whole video to be like 00:42:20.569 --> 00:42:22.089 this whole skate energy. 00:42:22.249 --> 00:42:27.569 And he really vibed on the Venice skateboard park. Right. It's right on the beach. 00:42:27.729 --> 00:42:31.649 It's by the ocean. So it's, and he's a surfer, you know, rest in peace. 00:42:31.649 --> 00:42:35.309 To chris murphy he's surfing in heaven now and 00:42:35.309 --> 00:42:39.049 us surfers when we see skateboarders that 00:42:39.049 --> 00:42:42.109 are like professional level we get 00:42:42.109 --> 00:42:47.609 excited to see something like that because it's it's really it is surfing yeah 00:42:47.609 --> 00:42:54.249 yeah when you see it by the ocean like that it's like it was like a dream come 00:42:54.249 --> 00:42:59.749 true for chris murphy and like and for me too i've always loved the venice skate park and, 00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:04.189 And then just getting to work with Leandre Sanders, you know, such a genius. 00:43:04.649 --> 00:43:09.529 It was an incredible honor to work with Annex Sess and Leandre Sanders together, you know? 00:43:10.289 --> 00:43:15.149 Yeah. Bea, I'll throw to you. I'm quite interested to know about you being in 00:43:15.149 --> 00:43:20.829 the jungle and what happened to this treatment that you made for Annex Sess 00:43:20.829 --> 00:43:21.709 for the film. Look at old rock. 00:43:21.829 --> 00:43:24.869 Was that right? Was that what the screenplay was called? It is. It's a screenplay. 00:43:25.069 --> 00:43:26.669 It's a feature length screenplay. 00:43:26.949 --> 00:43:31.929 They're still shopping it. It might be made. I think it's going to be made soon. 00:43:32.189 --> 00:43:35.249 All the economies to come back in the world. 00:43:35.509 --> 00:43:42.049 Yeah, yeah. And we're going to promote this film because it joins the ancient 00:43:42.049 --> 00:43:46.549 wisdom of the ancient Australians, 00:43:47.089 --> 00:43:51.349 you know, the aboriginals with the younger crowd. 00:43:51.349 --> 00:43:56.469 And they come together to, like, save the whole village from a... 00:43:57.244 --> 00:44:04.544 A giant crocodile monster and they need to get the 18,000 or whatever it is, 00:44:04.764 --> 00:44:08.284 40,000 year old wisdom to be able to solve it. 00:44:08.404 --> 00:44:13.284 And so it was a new kind of film and like people are still learning that this 00:44:13.284 --> 00:44:15.264 is going to work and I think it's going to happen. 00:44:15.804 --> 00:44:20.224 It sounds a bit like a Elton John meets a crocodile Dundee. 00:44:20.844 --> 00:44:26.624 Well, no, it's actually a suspense film, but there's a certain amount of comedy in it. 00:44:26.624 --> 00:44:31.424 The interesting thing, obviously, dating back, NXS actually recorded, 00:44:31.644 --> 00:44:34.424 and it's something that Andrew's talked a little about recently on interviews, 00:44:34.584 --> 00:44:37.944 Andrew Farris, they recorded a song for the Crocodile Dundee soundtrack, 00:44:37.944 --> 00:44:41.204 and they were actually original investors as a band member in that film. 00:44:41.484 --> 00:44:44.444 Well, they just had some success in America with the Listen Like Thieves album, 00:44:44.644 --> 00:44:46.944 and Chris said you should invest in this film if you think it's going to go 00:44:46.944 --> 00:44:51.324 big, and consequently that and the next two sequels did so, you know? 00:44:51.424 --> 00:44:54.324 So there's some interesting tie-ins with that and your situation. 00:44:55.204 --> 00:45:00.564 Sure. Chris Murphy, he was an investor in Crocodile Dundee, right? Yeah. 00:45:01.144 --> 00:45:04.424 But, you know, he came to me with the story. It wasn't a comedy. 00:45:04.624 --> 00:45:07.324 I was like, this isn't a comedy, Chris. And he's like, oh, no. 00:45:08.464 --> 00:45:09.524 We're going to do it. 00:45:11.004 --> 00:45:14.684 A terrifying film, you know. It's going to

have a lot of energy. 00:45:15.264 --> 00:45:19.384 So it's got nothing to do. It was so exciting. So it's got nothing to do with InXS. 00:45:19.524 --> 00:45:23.624 It's just that Chris was promoting, well, backing it. Well, Chris, 00:45:23.924 --> 00:45:28.684 I think he owns all of their tracks. 00:45:29.244 --> 00:45:33.484 He owns their music. He doesn't manage them. But at the time, 00:45:33.624 --> 00:45:35.744 I don't know what happened since he died. 00:45:36.144 --> 00:45:39.764 At the time, he owned the music. 00:45:40.364 --> 00:45:44.304 I think that's not a good deal with Universal where they write part of that. 00:45:44.364 --> 00:45:45.984 And he's owned part of it with Petrol Records. 00:45:46.104 --> 00:45:48.564 That's right. There's a, there's something like that. 00:45:48.724 --> 00:45:52.844 He had a big equity stake in it. He had a share of it and he didn't have to manage them anymore. 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:58.439 But he was always promoting these like musicals and stuff out in Vegas and things 00:45:58.439 --> 00:46:01.319 that had like NXS music in it. 00:46:01.479 --> 00:46:05.839 Did you ever get a chance to see them live back in the day with Michael within, 00:46:05.839 --> 00:46:08.099 you know, your fandom and things? 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:15.019 Yeah. Well, one time when I was in London doing videos, directing videos, 00:46:15.339 --> 00:46:22.859 my rep took me to an NXS show and I got to meet Michael and we were talking about doing a video. 00:46:23.499 --> 00:46:26.579 We didn't do it but we talked about it 00:46:26.579 --> 00:46:29.439 yeah it was that and i remember 00:46:29.439 --> 00:46:32.299 he was hanging out with nick cave and i got to hang out with both 00:46:32.299 --> 00:46:41.199 of them yeah i would say 97 yeah right yeah i mean nxs were always quite innovative 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.619 with their film clips you know coming out of australia as you may or may not 00:46:44.619 --> 00:46:49.239 know we we had a show called countdown which was our seminal music show it was 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.519 probably your equivalent of American Bandstand, 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.439 or Top of the Pops in the UK, but this particular show, 00:46:55.903 --> 00:47:00.703 broke ABBA worldwide and broke Blondie worldwide because they did videos when 00:47:00.703 --> 00:47:01.743 they came out to Australia. 00:47:02.003 --> 00:47:05.303 Obviously, they broke ACDC, who were from this part of the world. 00:47:05.763 --> 00:47:10.443 But in excess, one of those bands that would put together videos and they worked 00:47:10.443 --> 00:47:12.503 with a lot of directors, you know, 00:47:12.603 --> 00:47:16.623 who like yourself have gone on to film and many other sort of things like Alex 00:47:16.623 --> 00:47:21.043 Proyas, you probably know the filmmaker, but he did the Kiss the Dirt video. 00:47:21.443 --> 00:47:25.323 We've interviewed him, Mark Pellington, who we were fortunate. Mark's a friend of mine. 00:47:25.663 --> 00:47:29.623 Yeah, we interviewed Mark last year. He's so cool. Yeah. He's very cool. 00:47:29.843 --> 00:47:33.263 He did the beautiful girl video and halfway through our interview with him, 00:47:33.363 --> 00:47:35.843 Bea, we had our most magical moment. Do you want to share that with Steve? 00:47:36.563 --> 00:47:40.683 Yeah, you know how we spoke to you earlier and we said that InXS wasn't in the 00:47:40.683 --> 00:47:41.703 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 00:47:41.923 --> 00:47:48.543 Well, Mark couldn't get over it. So he got on the phone to his mate who is in production side of it. 00:47:48.923 --> 00:47:56.223 The Hall of Fame ceremony, yeah. Yeah, so we had it live on air talking about it. 00:47:56.923 --> 00:48:00.483 He rung up, didn't he, with sort of, hang on, are you telling me in all the 00:48:00.483 --> 00:48:03.023 productions you have put on, they're not in the Hall of Fame yet? 00:48:03.023 --> 00:48:06.223 You've got to be lying to me. So this all went sort of live via our interview. 00:48:06.403 --> 00:48:10.583 But Mark, obviously a friend of yours, you know his credentials. 00:48:11.203 --> 00:48:15.543 In excess, we're always trying to reach out to innovative filmmakers and video directors. 00:48:15.823 --> 00:48:20.383 I mean, Richard Lowenstein in Australia was quite pivotal in his videos. 00:48:20.383 --> 00:48:23.143 And Nick Egan Did a few, didn't he? 00:48:23.223 --> 00:48:29.083 Did you ever meet Nick? Oh yeah, Nick Egan too He was an LA guy up in the hills there, 00:48:29.803 --> 00:48:33.183 Nick's the only guy He's ever been a guest podcast host Hasn't he, 00:48:33.243 --> 00:48:34.663 when I couldn't do the show Yeah, 00:48:34.863 --> 00:48:39.803 Nick's a bit Well, Nick made our avatars as well All the symbols you see were 00:48:39.803 --> 00:48:44.343 made by Designed by Nick Yeah, he's such a creative At the beginning he helped 00:48:44.343 --> 00:48:48.463 me with the website and everything So lovely, such a good man And I think 00:48:48.872 --> 00:48:53.132 Speaking of LA, Huntington Beach is where Joel Shoemaker did the Lost Boys, 00:48:53.232 --> 00:48:58.952 well, film, but he did the Devil Inside video for the band as well. Yeah. Cool. 00:48:59.332 --> 00:49:04.772 So I guess a lot of persons have some tie-ins there, you know, with you, which is good. 00:49:05.860 --> 00:49:09.120 Bringing things along a little bit to your career. One thing which I guess, 00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:10.860 you know, you're very famous for, 00:49:11.080 --> 00:49:13.960 and Bea, I don't know if you had a chance to look, but there's a very, 00:49:14.080 --> 00:49:18.140 very famous award-winning clip that I guess Steve put together, 00:49:18.140 --> 00:49:22.260 won, I think, awards in Cannes, and I think it's called The Sunglass Catch. 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.500 Steve, have you seen this, Bea, at all? No, tell me. 00:49:26.660 --> 00:49:31.560 Well, it is the most amazing 90 seconds, and probably there's

extended versions, 00:49:31.700 --> 00:49:35.900 I'm sure, but I watched this last week and basically Steve has a very innate 00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:41.120 way of catching sunglasses landing on his face from the top of freeways, 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:45.200 driving in a car, people throw the glasses going past and he catches them with 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:46.780 his head and his eyes. In reverse. 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.340 Well, it's a magic trick. I could feel it. 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.320 I could reveal that some of it is in reverse, but not all of it. 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:03.660 There's like six or seven stunts, and some of them aren't in reverse. 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.300 Tell us a bit about this video, because I guess it was rated, 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.500 I think, in the top 10 YouTube videos of all time by various bodies. I like to watch this. 00:50:11.740 --> 00:50:15.880 Tell us a bit how it came about and just the effect that had on your career, Steve. 00:50:16.180 --> 00:50:20.800 I had this good friend who was doing camera for me sometimes. 00:50:21.700 --> 00:50:27.880 He was working with Spike Jones a lot, assisting Spike, and then Spike started 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:32.740 giving him videos to direct and then, and his name is Benzo Kaler, 00:50:33.100 --> 00:50:35.320 he started like pitching on commercials. 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:42.320 That was like a super low budget commercial job, an internet commercial where 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:50.560 you make a video that seems like a user YouTube video, but it's actually a secret ad. 00:50:51.348 --> 00:50:56.128 And it was one of the first of its kind, that style of viral video. 00:50:56.388 --> 00:50:58.588 It's cool in being an obvious head, isn't it? 00:50:59.168 --> 00:51:04.928 Sure. Yeah. We just have one slogan that's from Ray-Ban called Never Hide, 00:51:05.168 --> 00:51:11.368 written with like a finger on the window of a car in the dust. 00:51:12.108 --> 00:51:15.308 Yeah. So that's the only time you see the logo. well he 00:51:15.308 --> 00:51:18.108 was like benzo was telling me about it and i was 00:51:18.108 --> 00:51:21.108 like i want to produce this this film for 00:51:21.108 --> 00:51:25.348 you and he was like you think you'd be good at this and i was like i'm gonna 00:51:25.348 --> 00:51:30.328 produce the shit out of this and then he gave me the job and you know i'd already 00:51:30.328 --> 00:51:35.068 had a career of like several number one hit videos and so he knew i could do 00:51:35.068 --> 00:51:39.548 it so we saw a little test he's pretty small dude and I'm a pretty big dude. 00:51:39.768 --> 00:51:45.688 So I lift him up on the ceiling and he was dropping the sunglasses onto me. 00:51:46.608 --> 00:51:52.568 And we were editing the little test and we sent it off to the ad company we 00:51:52.568 --> 00:51:55.708 were working for and they sent it to Ray-Ban. 00:51:56.168 --> 00:52:01.068 And then we were like, we cast two people and then they're like, 00:52:01.128 --> 00:52:04.148 we want the two guys from the test. And they were like, well, that's us. 00:52:05.088 --> 00:52:12.128 And so we ended up getting casting ourselves even though we were trying to cast somebody else, 00:52:13.008 --> 00:52:16.008 it was good though because i had to skateboard backwards and 00:52:16.008 --> 00:52:19.128 stuff and so it was hard to find cast 00:52:19.128 --> 00:52:22.348 somebody who could do that where you look at you're looking like you're going 00:52:22.348 --> 00:52:25.528 this way but you're actually going down the hill like you look like you're skating 00:52:25.528 --> 00:52:28.708 up the hill forward but you're going down backwards and you're not allowed to 00:52:28.708 --> 00:52:35.488 look yeah as soon as you look it ruins it yeah And so we had it took like 25 00:52:35.488 --> 00:52:38.428 takes to pull off some of these stunts. Wow. 00:52:39.248 --> 00:52:42.508 And that one, like, I'll just tell you how we did it. 00:52:42.768 --> 00:52:50.388 One of our friends has like a broomstick with some sunglasses on a fishing line. 00:52:51.028 --> 00:52:55.788 And he's like running next to us. 00:52:56.552 --> 00:53:01.332 And I had the sunglasses on. And so I'm going down the hill, 00:53:01.472 --> 00:53:05.312 like as if I'm skateboarding up the hill, but I'm actually going backwards down the hill. 00:53:05.772 --> 00:53:11.392 And then he pulls them off with the broomstick off of my face and like puppets 00:53:11.392 --> 00:53:13.872 them over to my friend and my friend catches them. 00:53:14.352 --> 00:53:18.832 So then in post-production, we erased the guy with the broomstick. 00:53:20.392 --> 00:53:25.452 But he's not, you know, in the whole thing. He's just getting in here and there on the edges. 00:53:25.992 --> 00:53:31.332 Yeah. And then maybe sometimes you could maybe see the fishing line. We erased that too. 00:53:31.632 --> 00:53:35.112 I went from going, this is a trick to going, oh my God, I've slowed down. 00:53:35.192 --> 00:53:38.532 This is bloody real fantastic. I feel guilty for thinking that it was a trick. 00:53:38.692 --> 00:53:42.372 And now I'm even more confused, but it sounds impressive. 00:53:42.852 --> 00:53:46.272 Did you have any injuries going down the hill on the skateboard? Not looking. 00:53:47.792 --> 00:53:51.412 We bailed a couple of times, but there was some grass. So we didn't, 00:53:51.412 --> 00:53:56.552 we didn't get any scabs or anything. just kind of like laughing and falling. 00:53:56.912 --> 00:54:02.612 It's awesome. So when was that? What year was that one? That was around 2007 or 80. Okay. 00:54:03.192 --> 00:54:06.812 Because Ray-Ban have moved on a lot. It's very much in my heart because I work 00:54:06.812 --> 00:54:08.512 with Ray-Ban. I'm one of their ambassadors. 00:54:09.372 --> 00:54:14.272 Oh, cool. Yeah. Me too. And you are now. Have you heard of the AI glasses? 00:54:14.612 --> 00:54:18.672 You should be doing something

with them. Oh, Steve. Can you get me? 00:54:18.972 --> 00:54:22.752 Can we work together on something with them? Well, let's try and do something. 00:54:22.752 --> 00:54:24.432 Then I'll make sure that can happen. 00:54:24.632 --> 00:54:27.012 Yeah. I'd love to do another Ray-Ban spot. 00:54:27.272 --> 00:54:33.072 These are fantastic. So they've got AI in them, super light cameras and sound. 00:54:33.072 --> 00:54:34.732 I usually have them on, don't I, Dan? 00:54:35.132 --> 00:54:39.372 Hook Steve up with an Australian promo with their head office. It's cool. 00:54:40.552 --> 00:54:45.812 Recreate your video, but yeah, in 2025 style or six. 00:54:48.198 --> 00:54:53.598 I had an idea to like show how we really did it, but like a really fake one 00:54:53.598 --> 00:54:59.518 where like we get some like acrobats from like Eastern Europe and they're like, 00:54:59.638 --> 00:55:06.638 they're all wearing green screen suits and they're like, like we're doing all 00:55:06.638 --> 00:55:09.958 the skateboarding backwards and all the stuff we did. 00:55:10.358 --> 00:55:14.718 And then these guys are in the frame and like, here, they finally revealed the footage. 00:55:16.978 --> 00:55:20.318 That is like totally stupid have you 00:55:20.318 --> 00:55:23.398 got any uh current projects that you're working 00:55:23.398 --> 00:55:26.758 on or things in process i'm sure there's always a lot of 00:55:26.758 --> 00:55:29.658 the guys in your industry we chat to often they've got three or four things on 00:55:29.658 --> 00:55:33.558 the go that have different time frames of uh coming to fruition and things uh 00:55:33.558 --> 00:55:37.818 any sort of pet projects you're working on yeah i'm working with some amazing 00:55:37.818 --> 00:55:47.438 musicians a band from Costa Rica called Saint Cecilia they're pretty awesome and I'm doing a new film, 00:55:48.180 --> 00:55:52.200 called El Bahista, which means the bass player in Spanish. 00:55:52.640 --> 00:55:56.860 It's just a YouTube project we did with the friends. I just released that. 00:55:57.080 --> 00:56:00.500 I want to send it to Gary from NXS, you know, because he's a bass player. 00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:05.640 What else? I'm doing, I'm trying to get a Kurt Vile video. 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.280 You know, Kurt Vile, he's a great artist. And I'm going to try to get this video 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.580 with him. I'm having some meetings with him. 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:18.020 One of my favorite artists is Kurt Vile. and doing a lot of screenings of all 00:56:18.020 --> 00:56:23.420 my classic films and videos all over, doing some live shows. 00:56:23.620 --> 00:56:27.280 I'm doing a screening in Portland. My wife's queuing me. 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:34.440 I'm doing a screening in Portland, Oregon. I did a film about Elliot Smith in 1998. 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:42.200 It was weird because, well, we showed it a lot on TV, on different cable channels 00:56:42.200 --> 00:56:44.860 back then and a bunch of festivals. 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.260 But more recently people are coming to me 00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:51.220 and they're like it's is it true that you did you 00:56:51.220 --> 00:56:54.320 collaborated with ellie it wasn't like me documenting him 00:56:54.320 --> 00:57:00.360 it was like we collaborated on like a creative project yeah and so it's an experimental 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:06.320 film it's kind of getting popular now it was popular on it on tv back then but 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:12.480 now it's popular like museums and things he was um a bit like Eva Cassidy in 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.840 the sense, Eva Cassidy seemed to, 00:57:14.300 --> 00:57:20.120 that lovely vocalist who was made famous a bit like Van Gogh after she, she passed. 00:57:20.300 --> 00:57:23.420 And Elliot Smith, who obviously collaborated when he was alive, 00:57:23.560 --> 00:57:25.140 but he passed not long after, didn't he? 00:57:25.240 --> 00:57:29.900 I think maybe early 2000s, I think, but he seems to have grown with legacy, 00:57:29.900 --> 00:57:33.220 obviously, you know, since his passing and what he, you know, 00:57:33.380 --> 00:57:35.240 created in his time with us, you know? 00:57:36.120 --> 00:57:40.900 Sure. He was always pretty big though, because he had a track that was nominated 00:57:40.900 --> 00:57:46.240 for an Oscar in Good Will Hunting and then he was signed to a major label, 00:57:46.700 --> 00:57:51.860 Capital I think, with a band Heat Miser he had and, 00:57:52.474 --> 00:57:56.954 He was always pretty good, pretty huge on the West Coast and all across America 00:57:56.954 --> 00:58:01.114 and Europe, too, for as long as I've known him since about 94. 00:58:01.574 --> 00:58:05.754 He's been pretty big. But, I mean, they want you to sell, like, 00:58:05.934 --> 00:58:09.474 millions and millions of records, and I think he would sell, like, a half a million. 00:58:10.434 --> 00:58:13.474 So they would put weird pressure on him and stuff, I feel like. 00:58:14.107 --> 00:58:17.327 They should have just, you know, let him be or whatever. Yeah. 00:58:17.587 --> 00:58:20.627 Or he could have just put out his own records on his own label. 00:58:20.627 --> 00:58:23.407 And that's, I think that's what he was doing towards the end. 00:58:24.207 --> 00:58:28.867 But he just kind of went the wrong direction, I guess. Got a little bit depressed. 00:58:29.227 --> 00:58:32.267 You mentioned an interesting word earlier about the Universal team and you called 00:58:32.267 --> 00:58:37.587 it the creatives coming over, I think, from the UK there as part of the video 00:58:37.587 --> 00:58:39.027 shoot for the Kickstarter. 00:58:39.027 --> 00:58:42.327 Sure, sure. I guess over your journey, you've been able to sort of maintain, 00:58:42.467 --> 00:58:45.207 you know, your individual independence in a creative sense. 00:58:45.367 --> 00:58:49.427 What is that balancing act like between listening to creatives and then having 00:58:49.427 -->

00:58:52.647 your own vision to achieve? I guess you can learn from others, 00:58:52.747 --> 00:58:54.487 but you've got a vision yourself that you believe in. 00:58:54.747 --> 00:58:59.027 That's always the crux, isn't it? To try, you know, block out the white noise sometimes. 00:58:59.287 --> 00:59:04.787 Well, not really. I mean, in the music video world, I feel pretty lucky to have 00:59:04.787 --> 00:59:09.327 like just always clicked with everybody. And like, I like the creatives from 00:59:09.327 --> 00:59:12.147 Universal. They were awesome. We worked well together. 00:59:12.487 --> 00:59:18.627 I just remember we all met up at this bar, you know, like at the Ritz in Marina Del Rey. 00:59:18.847 --> 00:59:24.747 And we just clicked, you know, like it was the funniest meeting with the creatives and Chris Murphy. 00:59:25.927 --> 00:59:31.447 Sometimes I would get in fights. I can't remember any with, but not really. 00:59:31.447 --> 00:59:39.507 For me, it's lucky that my selling point was that my stuff wasn't like anybody else's. 00:59:39.667 --> 00:59:45.387 So then I could just kind of just stay there and this is completely creative 00:59:45.387 --> 00:59:47.227 and this is what's going to work best. 00:59:47.387 --> 00:59:54.407 And then everybody in the punk rock, hip hop world is on that level anyway. 00:59:54.407 --> 00:59:59.227 And a lot of the people that work at the labels are kind of like musician people. And so... 00:59:59.856 --> 01:00:05.776 It all kind of works in the music video world. What videos have inspired you? 01:00:05.976 --> 01:00:09.036 Like ones that from your early days through to now that you look at and go, 01:00:09.256 --> 01:00:13.416 wow, I just love that particular video and the reasons behind it. 01:00:13.576 --> 01:00:18.916 Okay. So it was before MTV, there was like a video show. It was on at midnight 01:00:18.916 --> 01:00:24.196 on Sundays and I was about 13 or so, 12, 13. 01:00:24.676 --> 01:00:35.796 It was like, it was punk and new wave. It was like The Clash and Devo and B-52s and The Talking Heads. 01:00:36.379 --> 01:00:39.079 And the ramones and it would they were all 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.999 so creative and they all made fun of videos at 01:00:41.999 --> 01:00:44.839 the same time they made videos and i 01:00:44.839 --> 01:00:48.939 liked how unserious and how funny you 01:00:48.939 --> 01:00:52.419 know the devo videos were and the clash you 01:00:52.419 --> 01:00:55.739 know and the clash was pretty much one of my biggest influences 01:00:55.739 --> 01:00:58.759 and then you know because you know they're british 01:00:58.759 --> 01:01:01.759 and they're so cool you know like it's just so funny and cool 01:01:01.759 --> 01:01:04.659 how they're like jamming by an oil rig or 01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:07.399 whatever yes and and there's an 01:01:07.399 --> 01:01:10.619 armadillo there it's totally surreal and 01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:17.399 random and like rock the casbah b the casbah is my favorite video i loved it 01:01:17.399 --> 01:01:22.499 as a kid too i i i to this day the sense of humor behind and the lyrics yeah 01:01:22.499 --> 01:01:26.419 you know yeah i used to the whole i think sheree doesn't like it but it was 01:01:26.419 --> 01:01:28.419 sharif doesn't like it, you know. 01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.119 Yeah, well, look, in excess, you know, they had some great early clips as well 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:36.959 that used to get a bit of a run on a lot of the TV shows in America. 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.859 I think, you know, the one thing film clip, you know, which was a sort of a 01:01:39.859 --> 01:01:44.539 beggar's banquet sort of video with the band amongst a bunch of models. 01:01:44.799 --> 01:01:50.019 And even Z and I loved the Don't Change film clip that was made in Adelaide at an airport. 01:01:51.399 --> 01:01:54.979 And it was made by the director who went on to make the movie Shine that got 01:01:54.979 --> 01:01:58.979 nominated for an album, sorry, Best Picture of the Year in 96. 01:01:59.499 --> 01:02:02.539 You know, the original sin clip, I think it's one we like, even the Stay Young 01:02:02.539 --> 01:02:05.139 B, we like that one around the beach in Sydney, don't we? Yeah. 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:10.179 You didn't need a lot of money in those days to make something that still resonated, did you, you know? 01:02:10.499 --> 01:02:15.539 Yeah, you know, Michael has so much charisma, you know, 01:02:16.331 --> 01:02:19.731 And then like some of the video directors, they're good at lighting and like 01:02:19.731 --> 01:02:25.531 making stuff energetic and just getting rid of like a big giant crew and having 01:02:25.531 --> 01:02:31.271 a smaller crew and like getting into creativity was exciting for all of the video directors. 01:02:31.271 --> 01:02:35.811 And I feel like the unseriousness of videos is really cool. 01:02:36.051 --> 01:02:39.951 Like you can see that in the NXS videos like. 01:02:40.727 --> 01:02:45.067 Like, this is going to be fun, you know, like, and then like the fans love it, 01:02:45.147 --> 01:02:49.427 you know, like we love seeing, you know, when I was a kid, 01:02:49.967 --> 01:02:57.467 seeing the NXS videos and the ACDC videos, even the men at work and stuff were 01:02:57.467 --> 01:02:58.747 big when I was a little kid. 01:02:59.647 --> 01:03:05.427 You know, a lot of Scallion jams are good. Well, we had ACDC here last week 01:03:05.427 --> 01:03:11.367 in Melbourne touring, and they had a homage at our Federation Square, 01:03:11.567 --> 01:03:15.067 which is a big sort of town hall, sort of outdoor meeting area, 01:03:15.227 --> 01:03:21.907 where they had the world's largest bagpipe rendition all up on stage and around playing the bagpipes. 01:03:22.627 --> 01:03:26.327 Right, that one song like that. Bagpipes, too, Long Way to the Top, 01:03:26.387 --> 01:03:28.107 if you want to rock and roll, which was filmed in Melbourne. 01:03:29.087 --> 01:03:33.187 So that famous

clip is coming down here, Main Street. It's a real iconic clip 01:03:33.187 --> 01:03:37.667 because it's, I think it's 50 years ago next year that it was made in 76. 01:03:38.127 --> 01:03:41.527 It was filmed down Swanson Street, our main street on the back of a lorry. 01:03:41.947 --> 01:03:45.407 All the architecture's changed except for some of the beautiful sort of European 01:03:45.407 --> 01:03:46.687 type churches and things. 01:03:47.007 --> 01:03:53.147 But they did a homage and they got something like 500 people playing bagpipes 01:03:53.147 --> 01:03:57.267 in Federation Square to that song last week as a bit of an ode. 01:03:57.427 --> 01:04:00.667 They hoped the band were going to turn up, but it would have been crazy otherwise. 01:04:00.667 --> 01:04:05.127 But they, I mean, that's a clip made in this particular city, you know, from ACDC. 01:04:05.287 --> 01:04:09.067 I mean, even Jailbird is filmed here in Melbourne, where I'm from, 01:04:09.227 --> 01:04:12.427 out in the Western suburbs at an old army depot. 01:04:12.587 --> 01:04:16.047 Yeah, there's some real creative stuff that particularly some of the Australian 01:04:16.047 --> 01:04:20.707 artists did, because that's how we got on TV here between 1975 and 81, 01:04:21.427 --> 01:04:22.987 by doing these type of little videos. 01:04:22.987 --> 01:04:26.927 It's how we exported these bands to the world because, you know, 01:04:27.067 --> 01:04:30.347 flying was It's expensive in those days and there's no internet. 01:04:31.302 --> 01:04:35.322 That's one of the best videos I've ever seen a long way to the top. 01:04:35.582 --> 01:04:38.802 You know, I love that with the bagpipes. 01:04:39.182 --> 01:04:42.122 How they're just rolling around on the back of a truck. Yes. 01:04:42.602 --> 01:04:47.142 That is so cool. And it's just so fun. And like, they're just messing around. 01:04:47.382 --> 01:04:51.942 I just really appreciate that. And I always liked the way, you know, 01:04:52.042 --> 01:04:53.762 Angus had the schoolboy look. 01:04:54.182 --> 01:04:59.362 That inspired me too. Just, it's funny, you know, like just he's got the schoolboy 01:04:59.362 --> 01:05:01.082 look. It's just hilarious. It's still good. 01:05:02.502 --> 01:05:09.322 So cool, you know, I just look up to that. They were just four to the floor, no frills. 01:05:09.642 --> 01:05:13.882 You know, Angus, we talk about in a podcast a bit, was famously interviewed 01:05:13.882 --> 01:05:18.402 by a journo who accused them of making the same album 11 times in a row, 01:05:18.402 --> 01:05:21.462 and he interjected and said to the journo, sorry, you're wrong, it's 12. 01:05:24.782 --> 01:05:28.082 That's so cool. Yeah, look, they had a big tour here recently, 01:05:28.142 --> 01:05:30.622 Oasis, you know, both in the US and we're down here recently. 01:05:30.622 --> 01:05:35.102 And I guess, you know, maybe to tie things up for you, we'd better let you go soon, but you know, 01:05:35.382 --> 01:05:39.202 things like rock music and things like that, it's had a tough sort of last 10, 01:05:39.302 --> 01:05:45.742 15 years in terms of maybe more mainstream success and monetization and things like that. 01:05:45.862 --> 01:05:49.262 Do you think there'd be a resurgence, you know, on a more bigger level that 01:05:49.262 --> 01:05:52.702 might go back to sort of the, the halcyon days of the nineties and the eighties 01:05:52.702 --> 01:05:54.602 and things? Do you think rock can return? 01:05:55.002 --> 01:05:58.982 I know the record companies have a say in this sort of stuff and streaming and 01:05:58.982 --> 01:05:59.962 things. What's your thoughts? 01:06:01.950 --> 01:06:06.990 It's gotten harder for, like, smaller bands. Like, the bigger bands, 01:06:07.010 --> 01:06:09.430 they're kind of doing just as well. 01:06:10.590 --> 01:06:16.210 But the smaller bands, like, after COVID, a lot of the clubs closed. 01:06:16.250 --> 01:06:19.190 And I'm waiting for it to come back, you know? 01:06:19.750 --> 01:06:23.970 I'm thinking that, you know, with all the AI and stuff, people are going to 01:06:23.970 --> 01:06:26.750 start appreciating, like, real drums and things like that. 01:06:27.250 --> 01:06:33.310 Yeah. You know, and when you hear it, it's, you know, like there's even like 01:06:33.310 --> 01:06:35.950 a mariachi band that plays near here. 01:06:36.250 --> 01:06:40.070 Sometimes one of my neighbors and it's a huge band. They have like 20 people, 01:06:40.490 --> 01:06:42.090 30 people. I can't even count them. 01:06:42.510 --> 01:06:45.830 And they sound amazing, you know, all real instruments, you know. 01:06:46.230 --> 01:06:52.150 And so it's exciting. I don't think it can, you know, they can't kill rock and roll. Yeah. 01:06:52.690 --> 01:06:58.790 And they can try, but it's like it's an energy. And then. 01:06:59.614 --> 01:07:04.474 And then if it gets too corporate, then, like, you know, the younger kids come 01:07:04.474 --> 01:07:05.974 out with some more creative stuff. 01:07:06.134 --> 01:07:10.614 And I don't think it's going to die. I think it's always going to come back 01:07:10.614 --> 01:07:13.674 in different waves here and there, you know. 01:07:13.834 --> 01:07:17.034 Like, when Kurt Cobain came out, like, there was a wave of bands. 01:07:17.254 --> 01:07:23.574 And then, you know, the Britpop bands, like, Stone Rose News and Oasis and all 01:07:23.574 --> 01:07:29.274 them, Like they brought out a whole new bunch of bands for like 10, 15 years. 01:07:29.334 --> 01:07:31.574 People were coming out with Britpop bands. 01:07:31.914 --> 01:07:36.394 Yeah. And I'm hoping that there's just more and more waves all through the years. 01:07:36.674 --> 01:07:40.774 We've got young blood now, haven't we? Well, we haven't. I've heard of him, but that actually is. 01:07:41.014 --> 01:07:46.254 I don't. Yeah, he's quite charismatic. He's young. He's very vibrant. He's punky. 01:07:47.594 --> 01:07:50.494 He's got a good heart. and yeah

01:07:50.494 --> 01:07:53.574 and he seems to be really big over in 01:07:53.574 --> 01:07:56.934 the UK at the moment so yeah he's one to watch he's 01:07:56.934 --> 01:08:00.734 still really young does Mila like him no Mila's 01:08:00.734 --> 01:08:03.654 into the old stuff Mila right Mila's B's daughter 01:08:03.654 --> 01:08:06.654 who's been indoctrinated into our musical world she's 01:08:06.654 --> 01:08:09.574 only 18 I think look last 01:08:09.574 --> 01:08:12.794 question for me if you were stuck on an island called Catalina and 01:08:12.794 --> 01:08:15.474 you could only take sort of one in excess song or 01:08:15.474 --> 01:08:18.474 video with you or another band as well what 01:08:18.474 --> 01:08:21.374 would you take with you steve i would take kick 01:08:21.374 --> 01:08:24.594 i kind of like the anniversary mix you 01:08:24.594 --> 01:08:29.694 know on that 30th year anniversary they did another mix yes over in england 01:08:29.694 --> 01:08:34.774 over in london yeah i think i've been jones with jones martin yes right the 01:08:34.774 --> 01:08:42.174 son of george martin yeah yeah i like that one that mix it's just because I worked on it and, 01:08:42.174 --> 01:08:44.694 and plus I listened to it a lot, you know, 01:08:44.974 --> 01:08:47.874 another record would be, I like Thin Lizzy. 01:08:48.554 --> 01:08:54.474 Oh yeah. That was sad, wasn't it? He's popular down here, you know? Yeah. Yeah. 01:08:55.437 --> 01:08:59.777 The boys are back in town and all that. They had some great people come out 01:08:59.777 --> 01:09:03.037 of that band, didn't they, too? You know, Gary Moore and Jailbreak. 01:09:03.377 --> 01:09:05.217 I love that song, Jailbreak. Yeah. 01:09:05.577 --> 01:09:07.437 What's that, Whiskey in a Jar, is it? 01:09:07.817 --> 01:09:10.017 Yeah. I love those songs. 01:09:10.737 --> 01:09:14.637 Yeah. So that would be it. Yeah, we'll just take those two. Maybe some John 01:09:14.637 --> 01:09:17.077 Coltrane. Oh, okay. Jailbreak. 01:09:17.617 --> 01:09:20.477 You mentioned something earlier, just about the UK and the British, about, you know, 01:09:20.557 --> 01:09:23.317 their influence and their love for some of that, you know 01:09:23.317 --> 01:09:26.157 i guess affected a lot of that blue stuff you got bands like 01:09:26.157 --> 01:09:29.157 john mayle and you have derrick and the dominoes you know eric clapton 01:09:29.157 --> 01:09:32.057 the stones like they were very influenced by a lot of the the blue stuff 01:09:32.057 --> 01:09:36.617 coming out of america in the 60s weren't they you know oh for sure muddy waters 01:09:36.617 --> 01:09:44.217 the stones are named their band after a muddy waters album i think yeah that's 01:09:44.217 --> 01:09:50.397 right and uh muddy waters and hal and wolf these guys are so good, 01:09:51.117 --> 01:09:54.897 It just sounds so good It's just mad hooks You know, like, 01:09:55.708 --> 01:10:01.628 You can kind of play a Muddy Waters song next to a Stones song, 01:10:01.668 --> 01:10:03.848 and you might end up liking the Muddy Waters better. 01:10:04.748 --> 01:10:09.828 Because you may have heard the Stones too many times, and then the Muddy will be kind of fresh. 01:10:10.828 --> 01:10:15.408 And then, yeah, Howlin' Wolf is so powerful. 01:10:15.408 --> 01:10:20.708 He's got this harmonica player, Little Walter, who was one of the first ones 01:10:20.708 --> 01:10:24.468 to use a guitar amp to mic his harmonica. 01:10:24.468 --> 01:10:29.288 And so it has that like kind of punk sound on the harmonica where it's distorting 01:10:29.288 --> 01:10:34.688 and it's kind of squealing and like a really beautiful noise manner, 01:10:35.168 --> 01:10:37.028 like a grunge band, you know? 01:10:37.388 --> 01:10:39.868 Well, I think Led Zeppelin owe a lot to the blues, don't they? 01:10:40.068 --> 01:10:41.708 I think in their career too. Yeah. 01:10:42.048 --> 01:10:47.188 Jimmy Page, like I noticed that he plays on a lot of Donovan records. Yes. 01:10:47.628 --> 01:10:50.488 Pretty cool. Like Hurdy Gurdie Man. I love that song. 01:10:50.848 --> 01:10:54.628 Yeah. I found that out last week, just Googling around on some stuff. 01:10:54.768 --> 01:10:58.368 And there was, I think the second guitarist was Jeff Beck playing some of those 01:10:58.368 --> 01:11:00.588 or as well, I think maybe on some of the Donovan stuff. 01:11:00.608 --> 01:11:04.208 I think Donovan was able to procure some pretty good musicians for his, 01:11:04.208 --> 01:11:08.168 for his stuff in the sixties there. Sure. He had, uh. 01:11:09.058 --> 01:11:12.598 The bass player from Led Zeppelin. Oh, that was it. Yeah. John Paul Jones. 01:11:12.718 --> 01:11:15.338 Yeah. Yeah. Which is fantastic. Bea, you had a question? 01:11:15.998 --> 01:11:23.038 Oh, I was just going to say, have you watched the new Netflix doco on Keith Richard? 01:11:23.358 --> 01:11:26.198 I want to see that. It's amazing. 01:11:26.738 --> 01:11:31.738 You should go watch it. Yeah. And it just goes through all of those people like Muddy Waters. 01:11:32.118 --> 01:11:34.878 And it's so well done. 01:11:35.438 --> 01:11:41.258 You'll love it. If you love music and you want to know about the earthy side 01:11:41.258 --> 01:11:46.318 of it and the soul of where Keith came from and found their music, 01:11:46.978 --> 01:11:48.738 yeah. It goes off to Jamaica. 01:11:49.298 --> 01:11:54.038 Oh, it's really good, really well filmed. I remember one part of the book, 01:11:54.178 --> 01:11:55.078 the Keith Richards book. 01:11:55.078 --> 01:11:59.298 I was reading that about a year ago, and he went to Chess Records where Muddy 01:11:59.298 --> 01:12:04.398 Waters recorded, and he saw a guy painting on the wall, painting the wall inside 01:12:04.398 --> 01:12:05.958 the studio, fixing up the studio. 01:12:06.498 --> 01:12:10.438 And he turned around and it was Muddy Waters. He was, like, fixing up the studio, 01:12:10.598 --> 01:12:12.318 painting it, you know, because he's part

owner. 01:12:12.718 --> 01:12:18.138 Wow. And he was like, he's like, Muddy Waters. And he was like, yeah, Keith Richards. 01:12:19.758 --> 01:12:22.198 But there's some awesome footage of them. He's, like, you know, 01:12:22.298 --> 01:12:23.198 working on the building. 01:12:23.438 --> 01:12:28.038 But there's some awesome footage of the Stones on a tiny stage with, 01:12:28.058 --> 01:12:31.198 like, Muddy right there, and they're in awe of him. 01:12:31.698 --> 01:12:33.898 It's so damn cool. Oh, so damn cool. 01:12:36.857 --> 01:12:41.377 It's been nice to hang out with you guys. And you too. And Risa had a beer too. 01:12:41.997 --> 01:12:46.797 Well, Bea and I have a plan to get over to LA at some point during our podcast 01:12:46.797 --> 01:12:48.157 series and things like that. 01:12:48.217 --> 01:12:49.537 And we've been fortunate enough 01:12:49.537 --> 01:12:52.457 to, as I said, interview a couple of your contemporaries over there. 01:12:52.477 --> 01:12:56.317 So we would love to shout you a beer if we do happen to get over there at some 01:12:56.317 --> 01:12:59.217 point in time. And it's been a real treat having you come on. 01:12:59.597 --> 01:13:03.137 You probably wouldn't have thought that two in excess 01:13:03.137 --> 01:13:05.977 sycophants would reach out from afar and requested any for 01:13:05.977 --> 01:13:08.797 a video you did eight years ago but here we are and here we here we've 01:13:08.797 --> 01:13:11.837 done it i was excited and i'm 01:13:11.837 --> 01:13:14.637 glad we did it thank you so much for calling me 01:13:14.637 --> 01:13:18.777 thank you all right and we'll we'll uh plug some of your stuff as it comes out 01:13:18.777 --> 01:13:21.757 keep in contact with us we'd love to be able to anything we can do to promote 01:13:21.757 --> 01:13:25.697 anything that's coming out as it is we would love to uh share with our listeners 01:13:25.697 --> 01:13:29.757 and things we have a very loyal bunch of people who have picked up interest 01:13:29.757 --> 01:13:33.497 in other musicians and producers and video directors since we've launched this. 01:13:33.697 --> 01:13:36.777 I think we've gone over about 4 million hits around the globe now, 01:13:36.897 --> 01:13:39.017 haven't we, Bea? Yeah, 6 million. 01:13:39.517 --> 01:13:44.237 Six, okay, there you go. Wow. So we'd love to help in any way we can. 01:13:44.377 --> 01:13:48.117 And from me, thank you very much for coming on today. Thank you so much. 01:13:48.837 --> 01:13:54.037 I appreciate it. I will email you guys, send you some of my new videos. 01:13:54.257 --> 01:13:57.297 Yeah, yeah, yeah, love to, love to. Bea, anything else you want to finish with? 01:13:57.557 --> 01:14:02.317 No, I'll just say thank you very much. Goodbye. All right. Have a good night. 01:14:19.561 --> 01:14:21.921 All right, B, well, that's a bit of a wrap for the year. First of all, 01:14:22.021 --> 01:14:26.361 thank you to you for all your efforts this year and all the hard work

you do behind the scenes. 01:14:26.641 --> 01:14:29.761 You know, an episode's not just 75 minutes of what you hear. 01:14:29.921 --> 01:14:33.701 It's often five, six, seven, 10 hours a week of B's time. And I know on behalf 01:14:33.701 --> 01:14:37.581 of our overall community and our listeners, et cetera, we want to just say thank 01:14:37.581 --> 01:14:40.001 you to all the heavy lifting you've done this year. 01:14:40.241 --> 01:14:44.001 I was calculating the other day, I think we've done over 35 episodes this year. 01:14:44.001 --> 01:14:49.201 So roughly, you know, I think, you know, it's roughly about three a month and, 01:14:49.201 --> 01:14:50.661 you know, your production and your 01:14:50.661 --> 01:14:54.421 innovation and discovering all your new little toys like AI this year. 01:14:54.521 --> 01:14:56.861 It's been pretty cool for you, hasn't it? Yes, I love my toys. 01:14:58.821 --> 01:15:04.881 Thank you to you, Hayden, also. Very creative with some of the episodes that we've come up with. 01:15:05.041 --> 01:15:10.001 And it's so good that you've been emailing all these people and some interesting 01:15:10.001 --> 01:15:14.901 interviewees that we're going to have on. And I liked your email you sent to 01:15:14.901 --> 01:15:18.481 the band, by the way, and the response that we got. Which one was that? 01:15:19.301 --> 01:15:25.041 About Prince. Yes, yes. Look, I will cite the Induct NXS team for this one. 01:15:25.301 --> 01:15:28.541 For years I've been looking for Prince's version of what you need. 01:15:29.241 --> 01:15:34.381 And he, I think around 2007, he did six or seven concerts in London. 01:15:34.561 --> 01:15:37.401 It was at the AO or the A8 or what was that venue? 01:15:37.741 --> 01:15:42.121 O2. O2, yeah. I saw Durand, Durand. I'm sort of, I'm sort of acronym with a 01:15:42.121 --> 01:15:43.201 number and a letter, but, um, 01:15:43.582 --> 01:15:47.322 He, you know, loves to do cover songs and I never was able to find it because 01:15:47.322 --> 01:15:50.222 he was very militant about deleting stuff that got posted. 01:15:50.982 --> 01:15:54.302 And YouTube was probably starting out in those days, but he always was able 01:15:54.302 --> 01:15:56.802 to thwart people from publishing his stuff. 01:15:57.222 --> 01:16:01.762 However, the team at the Induct In Excess site were able to get- Well, 01:16:01.782 --> 01:16:04.862 it's on the YouTube, their YouTube channel. Yeah, it's one of their latest sort of promotions. 01:16:05.002 --> 01:16:08.762 Just an audio, yeah. And most of it's Prince playing the guitar version and 01:16:08.762 --> 01:16:13.042 then one of his female singers singing a riff and changing lyrics around a little 01:16:13.042 --> 01:16:14.302 bit on the song. It goes about a minute. 01:16:14.422 --> 01:16:17.782 So I just sort of thought that, you know what, let's email that out to Kirk. 01:16:17.962 --> 01:16:22.382 I think Andrew and Tim, who happened to be in an email chain, 01:16:22.482 -->

01:16:25.162 et cetera, there, and I just forwarded to them and just listened to it because 01:16:25.162 --> 01:16:27.082 I'm sure they wouldn't have heard it. 01:16:28.002 --> 01:16:30.102 And it's just great for them just 01:16:30.102 --> 01:16:33.702 to hear someone like as iconic as Prince doing a version of their song. 01:16:33.802 --> 01:16:36.662 I mean, the Bruce Springsteen version of Don't Change was iconic. 01:16:37.002 --> 01:16:40.362 You know, Dua Lipa, Never Tell Us Apart. but I think Prince is another level, 01:16:40.442 --> 01:16:42.202 you know? Yeah, and they were very thankful. 01:16:42.462 --> 01:16:45.822 Did you hear from Andrew too or no? No, not yet, no. 01:16:46.202 --> 01:16:49.262 I hope he responds back to you. That's fine. That's lovely. 01:16:49.742 --> 01:16:53.082 That's fine. Awesome. Now, that was nice to hear from the band. 01:16:53.082 --> 01:16:58.242 We haven't heard from them for a while. I think it's about time we get them back on next year. 01:16:58.802 --> 01:17:03.082 Absolutely. Hopefully we can, you know, maybe influence a little bit of promo stuff for them. 01:17:03.342 --> 01:17:07.762 We corrupted Kurt to suddenly do a Rolling Stone interview a few weeks after 01:17:07.762 --> 01:17:12.482 our birthday And next thing you know, we were, you know, we're getting the podcast 01:17:12.482 --> 01:17:16.622 notice, but more importantly, we're getting the band talking about the Rock Hall of Fame. Mm-hmm. 01:17:17.683 --> 01:17:21.763 Okay. All right, Bea, now anything about our trip in January with the party 01:17:21.763 --> 01:17:25.103 we're having for Michael's birthday you want to just finish off with? 01:17:25.263 --> 01:17:28.643 Yes, I'd like to give a few more details. If anyone is interested, 01:17:28.643 --> 01:17:30.363 it's going to be in Sydney. 01:17:30.523 --> 01:17:35.523 We're going to be meeting up at the hotel in Brookvale, which is called the Mercure. 01:17:36.603 --> 01:17:41.643 A lot of us are staying there. We've got a discount code if you want to get a booking there. 01:17:42.023 --> 01:17:47.043 We will be going around about 10 o'clock in the morning and we are going into 01:17:47.043 --> 01:17:52.103 the city and we've got some really wonderful places to visit all together. 01:17:52.423 --> 01:17:56.743 It's going to be an amazing opportunity to take some wonderful photos together 01:17:56.743 --> 01:18:01.043 and it's going to be an amazing goodie bag and all sorts of things. 01:18:01.403 --> 01:18:06.543 We will then go back to the hotel and everyone will freshen up to go and see 01:18:06.543 --> 01:18:12.823 Don't Change the In Excess tribute band fronted by Blair at the DYRSL. 01:18:12.923 --> 01:18:16.463 I know there's lots of you that are going to that and we were going to be going 01:18:16.463 --> 01:18:21.443 having a pre-party and an after party at the DYRSL now so if you'd 01:18:21.491 --> 01:18:26.731 are interested, get in touch with the podcast because there's going

to be a lot going on on that day. 01:18:26.871 --> 01:18:31.931 We've got raffles and all sorts of things going on and special guests and all 01:18:31.931 --> 01:18:34.131 sorts of things. It's going to be really good fun. 01:18:34.271 --> 01:18:36.971 And you enjoyed last time, didn't you, Hayden? Oh, absolutely. 01:18:37.271 --> 01:18:40.531 Yeah, it was good fun. Anyone on a repeat travel visit this time? 01:18:40.611 --> 01:18:42.831 Are there some different sites that we're dropping off at? Me? 01:18:43.071 --> 01:18:44.931 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, definitely. 01:18:45.291 --> 01:18:47.511 Just want to clarify. Yeah, definitely. I think you're going to, 01:18:47.771 --> 01:18:49.191 yeah, you're going to be wired by this one. 01:18:49.611 --> 01:18:56.091 Yeah. So yeah, can't wait. So again, the website address or our email, I should say. 01:18:56.351 --> 01:18:59.091 Yes. I won't give away something you've done, which is fantastic because, 01:18:59.091 --> 01:19:01.831 you know, you've got some famous people in the world. 01:19:01.891 --> 01:19:11.031 You've got Hoadley's, you've got Nestle, you've got Cadbury's and you've got... And you've got Bee's. 01:19:11.171 --> 01:19:15.871 Now, Bee has come up with two iconic chocolates in the past and she's going 01:19:15.871 --> 01:19:18.171 to knock your socks off with a third chocolate bar for this one. 01:19:18.251 --> 01:19:19.231 We won't tell you what it is. 01:19:19.651 --> 01:19:22.691 What I can tell in the past, she did come up with, instead of Kit Kat, 01:19:22.811 --> 01:19:27.591 she came up with Kik Kat, K-I-C-K, for our listeners. 01:19:27.771 --> 01:19:31.411 So you've got a wrapped-up Kik album cover in a Kit Kat, which was good. 01:19:31.471 --> 01:19:35.371 I think you did one, was it a Mars bar before? What was the other one? No, we did the same one. 01:19:36.071 --> 01:19:41.891 I've got a bit more creative. In fact, we've got two things to eat on this trip 01:19:41.891 --> 01:19:43.671 that are related to Inexcess. 01:19:43.951 --> 01:19:47.151 And technically, if you ate 20 of these chocolate bars, She might breathe over 01:19:47.151 --> 01:19:51.751 0.05 because he's engulfed out of alcohol in his chocolate. So just letting you know. 01:19:52.811 --> 01:19:55.851 Also, Chris Cofaro has been in touch. 01:19:56.131 --> 01:20:01.511 He has given us some signed photos of Michael for everybody that's coming. 01:20:01.651 --> 01:20:03.211 So they're going into the goodie bag too. 01:20:03.671 --> 01:20:06.451 There's quite a lot going into these goodie bags. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. 01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:10.860 All right. Well, look, we're going to go with a little bit of a tribute song 01:20:10.860 --> 01:20:14.740 today for anyone in Australia, anyone from the Jewish community, 01:20:14.860 --> 01:20:17.320 anybody from the broader community who were in Bondi the other day, 01:20:17.500 --> 01:20:19.160 any family member that was affected. 01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:23.040 And most of all, just for the greater Australian population who, 01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:26.300 unfortunately, we had to stare down terror the other day. 01:20:26.440 --> 01:20:30.400 And look, we want to be tasted with this particular song. And we sort of thought 01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:32.980 it sort of summed up something, you know, 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.580 relatable, something that sort of, you know, was pertinent to, you know, 01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:41.260 I guess acknowledging those there and maybe everybody taking pause this time 01:20:41.260 --> 01:20:44.740 of year and what is a, you know, a special time of the year for families and, 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:48.600 you know, hearts go out to those, you know, who aren't going to have their family 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:49.680 members with them this year and. 01:20:50.244 --> 01:20:54.184 We thought the song Dancing on the Jetty was a really appropriate sort of song 01:20:54.184 --> 01:20:59.204 there because, you know, it was, you know, released this time 41 years ago as 01:20:59.204 --> 01:21:03.324 the fourth single and Dancing on the Jetty, some people just sort of see it for what it is. 01:21:03.404 --> 01:21:06.944 Oh yeah, or Dancing on the Jetty, but the jetty sort of represented to Michael 01:21:06.944 --> 01:21:10.704 and the band who wrote the lyrics, sort of an escape from the foreshore and 01:21:10.704 --> 01:21:12.984 getting away from the dramas of mainland. 01:21:13.404 --> 01:21:18.284 And you could understand the other day that, you know, people were fleeing in 01:21:18.284 --> 01:21:20.784 droves and And the lyrics, you know, I think, as we all know, 01:21:20.924 --> 01:21:25.844 you know, watch the world argue, argue with itself. Who's going to teach me peace and happiness? 01:21:26.184 --> 01:21:29.484 And then, you know, it sort of goes on, shock the world, true story, 01:21:29.604 --> 01:21:32.544 snap decisions. Am I always going? Watch them. 01:21:32.904 --> 01:21:36.324 We're going to watch them keep it strong. Look, the lyrics speak for themselves. 01:21:36.644 --> 01:21:40.084 It is sort of a song about retreat and getting away from what is the dramas 01:21:40.084 --> 01:21:41.024 and learning from the past. 01:21:41.164 --> 01:21:44.344 And, you know, it's a down your tools, you know, for violence mode. 01:21:44.364 --> 01:21:45.964 It really is a protest song. 01:21:46.084 --> 01:21:50.244 It's an anti-violence song. And we thought that, look, we'd love just to sort 01:21:50.244 --> 01:21:53.404 of put this thing out in the world, highlight its 41st anniversary and just 01:21:53.404 --> 01:21:56.984 sort of dedicate this to those affected and feeling down because, 01:21:57.324 --> 01:22:00.424 as I said, our country just doesn't go through this stuff. 01:22:00.584 --> 01:22:04.544 And unfortunately, we lost a bit of innocence the other day, Bea. We did. We did. 01:22:05.324 --> 01:22:10.464 That aside, it's a goodbye from me. Hold your loved ones this Christmas and 01:22:10.464 --> 01:22:11.824 have a really wonderful one. 01:22:11.944 --> 01:22:14.724 And we'll see you in the next year. And it's a goodbye from Bea.