Full Transcript for Examining Potential Day 2, Day 3 NFL Draft Prospect Fits For Philadelphia Eagles

wind up 59 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.759 with one of these guys because he's done so many, and many of them 60 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.159 are guys that he knows that the Ego have talked to and are he He 61 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.520 specifically also chose guys at positions the Eagles would be looking at, like corner 62 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:11.120 and safety and linebacker and the wide receiver. That's awesome man. In fact, 63 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.240 it's on not just YouTube what you could see and here, it's also 64 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:19.360 on all of our podcasts and platforms. So they always drop, like all 65 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:23.199 of our shows at six am Eastern, so no matter what time zone, 66 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.480 if you're in the West Coast, it's three am for the for you farmers, 67 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:30.839 and uh six am Eastern as you get going to work, so downloaded, 68 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.680 however you consume, you could get them and only through us, through 69 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.079 inside the Birds. We love it. We'll love it having Andrew on Draft 70 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.480 night will have them with us, I believe, so that'll be great. 71 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.680 Yep. And we and then the big one drops are one round. We 72 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:47.000 only do one round. We do the entire thirty two picks where the three 73 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.680 of us go back and forth. We make our picks. We give you 74 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.439 the reasons why. Also we'll do the Eagles then, and I will give 75 00:04:54.480 --> 00:05:00.319 you the intel and what specifically on the teams that we really know pretty well. 76 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:01.240 We'll go, Okay, here's what they're thinking going into it. So 77 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.160 if you're not just a we know that not all Eagles fans listen. There 78 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:10.120 are Cowboys fans listening, Commandos fans, Jants fans. So we'll give you 79 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:12.800 what do we know in those teams as well. Yeah, that's our annual 80 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.120 Inside the Birds first round NFL mock draft that will come out Monday, featuring 81 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.000 myself, Adam and Andrew de Checo. Always look forward to that. Always 82 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:25.279 one of our most listened to podcasts every year. As far as other things 83 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:30.000 that you should catch and listen to on our Patreon platform, Adam last night 84 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.199 entertained on the Discord channel answering a lot of questions, dropping a lot of 85 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:36.120 intel. A lot of people want to know about the NFL Draft, and 86 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.959 Adam had a lot of good stuff on the Discord channel for our Patreon members. 87 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.720 And then of course on Wednesday, the night before the first round of 88 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:48.000 the draft, we'll do our final NFL Draft ask ITV live stream with our 89 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.600 Patreon members, where we'll again have a chance to drop a lot of early 90 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:58.240 intel for those who subscribe. That's patreon dot com slash Inside the Birds to 91 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:02.920 get that great content. All right, A couple of things before we get 92 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:08.680 into you know, day two and day three, guys, Adam, a 93 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.759 big, big extension that we said was coming ever since I don't know the 94 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:17.360 start of the offseason finally happened. Eagles agreed to an extension with DeVante Smith, 95 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.600 which it's been an offseason of a lot of extensions from Smith to Landon 96 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.480 Dickerson, all three of the special teams guys on the on the on the 97 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.399 field goal right, the kicker, of the punter, and the long snapper. 98 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.680 This has been a bit. This is an underrated but essential part of 99 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:38.319 quote unquote free agency, retaining your own and Adam. When you look at 100 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:44.959 the wide receivers that are up for extensions in the next twelve to sixteen months, 101 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.079 this deal that the Eagle signed Smith to will probably look very team friendly 102 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.360 at about six to twelve to eighteen months. Yeah, and it also helps 103 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.519 a guy like t Higgins because see here T Higgins is exactly like DeVante Smith 104 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.360 and devaanty better football player. But he's one A to Jamar Chase's one, 105 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.519 where Davante is a high end one A to aj Brown who's there one? 106 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:11.759 So now you know three years, seventy five million. We haven't got the 107 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:16.160 breakdown yet, but they now any team knows for a high end number two 108 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:21.959 really one A. You now know what the money is now with with you 109 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.519 know, with Jamar Chase, he's looking for thirty million a year, if 110 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.600 not more, Him and Justin Jefferson are gonna want a minimum of thirty. 111 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.360 They're gonna want to me. They're gonna want to be Tyreek Hill still thirty 112 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.160 million a season. So that's that. Yeah, we knew this was coming. 113 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:38.360 It was no secret because with the I don't understand this. I'll never 114 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.920 understand this. Why the Cowboys bleeping weight so long is beyond me. It's 115 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.319 stupid. It's bad business. You get such a discount when you get deals 116 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:51.279 done early, right. I don't understand why teams don't

copy this, right 117 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:56.360 because think about if let's say the Cowboys didn't wait, Let's say they had 118 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.839 already signed CD Lamb to something in that twenty five to already million range, 119 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.040 and let's say all you guys signed, then the Eagles are now looking at 120 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.319 DeVante Smith and have to pay him somewhere in the neighborhood that those guys are 121 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.399 making, maybe not as much as a CD, but right in that category. 122 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.279 So it saves them down the long world. As long as you ident 123 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.319 look, there's risk involved. We saw it. It happens. You know. 124 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.279 Carson Wentz is one example. There are others, but if you look 125 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.480 at most of the Eagles extensions, especially for first rounders. They usually turn 126 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.519 out to be guys who are consequentially important and see it through that most of 127 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.039 that second contract, and it saves them a lot of money. Yeah, 128 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.440 I would have to go through. We're not talking about extensions for veterans like 129 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.360 Alshon Jeffrey with the last one missed that was a miss, but just talking 130 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.879 about the guys they drafted, their hit list, their hit rate is significantly 131 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.799 strong on getting them right. This is what you're alluding to doing these early 132 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.240 Joe Banner was telling us that before that you always get them right, like 133 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.279 you you know, back then when Joe started doing them, remember it's called 134 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.919 the Joe bannerol was just two years and then agents and players complain, so 135 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.960 the NFLPA and there in a later in a later deal with the owners, 136 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:13.799 that was the thing. They changed it from two years to three years for 137 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.679 drafted players. But they have a good hit rate on extending players. They 138 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.320 just do. And you know why, because you should know after three years 139 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.159 whether you want to extend the player or not. You know, you shouldn't 140 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.120 need any more. You should you should know whether it's not gonna work where 141 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.720 the guy's gonna be a bust or its it clearly doesn't look right, or 142 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.720 when you know you nailed it, and DeVante Smith Chiefs the first day of 143 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.879 practice and training camp, they nailed it. I mean Bill Pollion told us 144 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.320 so, there's sometimes when you whole fame general manager, you just you know 145 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:45.480 it when you're around the player very early, and DeVante Smith was one of 146 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:50.399 those rare players, those first round picks where you're around him you go, 147 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.559 oh wow, I think we got this rate and it's only for a couple 148 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.120 of weeks. Yeah, they kind of know it when they got it. 149 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.879 And what a football player. Yeah, he checks all the boxes. He'd 150 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.279 be one of the very if you give me, like, name some guys 151 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.000 you'd be shocked if they just fell off the face of the earth and did 152 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:09.679 not get better or replicate their season. He would be among my top five 153 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:11.120 guys. I just he's had it all ever since he was in high school 154 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.639 and college and has performed at the highest level on every stage. So there 155 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.440 would be no reason to think that this contract will not be worth its weight. 156 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.120 Also, I had fun on Inside the Birds dot Com. I did 157 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.720 a top ten touchdowns that DeVante Smith has caught in his Eagles career in three 158 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:31.399 years. I ranked them the ten best touchdown catches, and I put little 159 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.879 videos in him to show pace one. I had a lot of fun with 160 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.720 it and made me remember how good of a contested catch guy he is? 161 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.759 At him for a guy who is known as the Slim Reaper and only one 162 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.480 hundred and sixty pounds, and just how much of a how his long stride, 163 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.519 He's got better speed than you would think. I mean, he's he 164 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.159 sets up corners with his footwork. There's just not that many things. He's 165 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.159 not very high level or a lead at. Remember the catch against Washington was 166 00:10:56.159 --> 00:11:00.360 it two years ago? The one over the middle at Washington? Yep, 167 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.080 he got nailed and and he he only missed one play. And I'm like, 168 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.519 oh, he might not come back. And he's back like pretty much 169 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.440 immediately, Like my god, how does he do it? He's he's so 170 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:13.039 slight. Who came up with the slim Reaper nickname? Do we know? 171 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.200 That's a great question. I do not know the answer to that. That's 172 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.559 the best thing I've ever heard like that. As I heard, I go, 173 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.879 oh my god, that's so good. Like give that dude a raise, 174 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.639 you know, but anyway better than skinny Batman, you know, which 175 00:11:24.679

--> 00:11:30.039 isn't bad. But that's only good Batman. And that's been right. So 176 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.120 what did Kelsey called himself fat Batman? Is that? What? Something? 177 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.519 That's funny? But anyway, yeah, he's a special football player, boy. 178 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:39.440 And why the hell how he didn't go to Alabama years ago, to 179 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.200 that school and start drafting players. I don't know why he ignored it, 180 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.600 but he nailed Dickerson and and and Smith. My god, why the hell 181 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.919 didn't he go there earlier? You know, it's weird question. You know, 182 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.919 I was reminded doing an interview that the Eagles did draft a player from 183 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.679 Georgia a whole while ago. It was Brandon Boykin from the fourth round when 184 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.879 they when they when Chip Kelly picked him to play slot. You said, 185 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:01.799 Georgia. No, but I'm talking about Bama. I'm talking about No. 186 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.879 I know, I was just because we always linked the SEC. Remember fat 187 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.679 time, he wasn't even drafting guys from SEC. No, Georgia. Right, 188 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.279 No, you're right, you're right, you're right. No. In 189 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.519 fact that it's just funny. Why he did he od on Georgia and Alabama? 190 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.360 I have no idea but you just said it. You kind of can't 191 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.720 go wrong with the sec with an asterisk. Of course, they are SEPs 192 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:26.080 to every rule, but I don't see any exceptions with Jalen Carter. Now 193 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.480 again, I know he faded late, but he's a stud and talent. 194 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.200 We know what the off the field history, so he's got to do what 195 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.799 he's supposed to. But obviously with DeVante Smith and Landon Dickerson, you can't 196 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.879 do much better than that. And I got to give Vegles medical staff credit. 197 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.639 We haven't really talked about this, but it just made me think as 198 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.440 you were speaking, part of why they got it right with him was they 199 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.159 thought despite all the knee problems, based on their information, and this is 200 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.559 important. You don't always get it right when you're making bets on players with 201 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.120 medical histories. They got it right. It doesn't mean he can't get hurt 202 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.039 tomorrow, but just they thought he'd be able to make it. And I 203 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.320 know why he wasn't with draft in the first round because of the injury history 204 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.600 the knee. But man, that is

a great job of evaluation. Obviously 205 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.799 how he gets the credit and he should, but kudos to the medical staff 206 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.679 and the rehab staff. They've done a finalal job with them one hundred percent. 207 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:15.080 All right, let's turn the page on this and we'll finish it off. 208 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:20.080 Extensions. This is a big upcoming year for three guys, in particular 209 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.360 Nikobe Dean who's entering year three, Cam Jurgens is entering year three, and 210 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.240 the biggest of them all, Jordan Davis, also entering year three. All 211 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.919 three of these guys, if they start seventeen games, if they play well, 212 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.519 if any of them make the Pro Bowl, they're all in line to 213 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.559 be extended after year three if they prove themselves. But you know, you 214 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.559 know, I think the Eagles at this point would be happy if two of 215 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:45.559 the three make it. All three is great. One of the three would 216 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:50.320 not be a good indication of that draft for the Eagles. In fact, 217 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.200 I would add this with Jordan Davis. His fifth year option is due next 218 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:58.519 May, so the decision will be made on his future after the season. 219 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.159 It's it's very simple, litas you don't have to guess these These extensions are 220 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.480 so easy to call, especially with this team because Howie rarely when it sees 221 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.919 no one's perfect, but when they get it right with the player, everyone 222 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.519 watching knows this with Howie and their front office and ownership when they get it 223 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.240 right. Jeffrey Ley's great because he will spend the money as we all know, 224 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.840 like you do have the player, you develop, and you extend. 225 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.559 That's what they've done for thirty years. Really, he didn't have anything to 226 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.360 do with Reggie Whites. It was Norman Brayman and when Reggie walked. But 227 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.720 they treat their players well. You saw their grades from the NFLPA, and 228 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.679 Jeffrey will address anything complaints that the players have. They just treat their players 229 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.879 well. And they when they identify players, man, they make smart bets. 230 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.080 Again, they don't always get them right. I'm sure you could go 231 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.919 through twenty the last twenty years, particularly since how he became the GM, 232 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.720 where they extend and players when it didn't work. Now they rolled over Nelson

233 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.320 Aguilar's ten million and he actually did well his fifth or off, but they 234 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.200 didn't extend them, right, That is correct, that was smart true. 235 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.039 Indeed, all right, before we go on through the round two day two 236 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.120 day three, guys, is there anything on first rounders that you wanted to 237 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:16.519 go through just to oh, yeah, the only thing we'll do when we 238 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:22.120 do our mock draft for Monday mornings six am Eastern, also on our Wednesday 239 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.000 show, and also on our pregame, our pre draft show, we'll give 240 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.039 you we'll release our list of their first round targets. But what I would 241 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.879 tell you, I just got this like one hour before we were taping the 242 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:35.840 show. It's my opinion based on the people I've spoken with, that they're 243 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.919 about sixteen to eighteen first round grades from clubs. I know it varies from 244 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.919 team to team. I get that there's some probably fourteen, but and we'll 245 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.600 release this list next week, but that's is I have to kind of firm 246 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.080 it up. But it sounds like to me sixteen eighteen players, and I 247 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.120 would lean more towards sixteen players. So that that's the Because we look at 248 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.360 this every year, it's important thirty two players will be drafted because you have 249 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:07.279 to. But only true first round grades are sixteen to eighteen. And you 250 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.679 could probably figure out some of them. A couple them are kind of surprising 251 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.039 to me, but I'm gonna firm it up. But that's the number that 252 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:14.440 we're working with right now. Yeah, and we'll be working really hard the 253 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.519 next few days. I gotta say, I was just speaking to someone before 254 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.919 we were on air two. And there are a couple guys that we have 255 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.639 talked about on this podcast and who are considered first round. Who I'm getting 256 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.080 what I would say is inconsistent information on which is not odd. Everybody sees 257 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.679 players differently. But then off the field stuff comes into play, medicals come 258 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.440 into play, and all of a sudden, something you thought was good or 259 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.200 there is not there. And so I look forward to you know, you 260 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.799 and I were used to that. We know that happens, but we got 261 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.279 to make sure all that stuff gets firmed up before

our last two pods and 262 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.799 stuff. With Lay two, I mean that's he's the wildcard for the shrift. 263 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.320 He can go. He can go as early as as nine or ten, 264 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.159 and he could drop to the twenties. If you notice a lot of 265 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.840 late two's visits for teams picking in the twenties because they know he might drop. 266 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.920 It's and you just talked about it in passing. You could talk to 267 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:10.440 thirty two teams. Their grades on medicals could be completely different. It's an 268 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:12.720 inexact science. Look, the Eagles didn't have a first grade, a round 269 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:17.640 grade on Metcalf because of his neck right. The Seahawks had a good enough 270 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.079 grade they draft him the second round. They got it right. So you 271 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:22.759 just don't know from team team how they're going to grade it, wouldn't you 272 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.440 agree. Character also fills in because there's various degrees of how teams look at 273 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.680 character, and there's various degrees of what some consider good or not great character, 274 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.480 some of it as football character compared to off the field character. And 275 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.599 I'll give a quick example. Last year, the cornerback from Oregon who went 276 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.279 to the Patriots were Christian Gonzalez. Yes, great, nobody ever said bad 277 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.240 kid, but they wondered about the toughness in him. There was a timidity 278 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.119 to him that some teams didn't like. And some teams didn't they looked at 279 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:52.440 the tape and said, yeah, but he's a talented kid, and he's 280 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.240 as good as anybody else out there. And that's the kind of information right 281 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.519 now that we're parsing through as we get ready to really finalize all of our 282 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.839 intel. So look forward to getting deeper into that next week when it's all 283 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.119 time to wrap it up. All right, we'll get into these guys in 284 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.319 round two, Round three, Day three. First, we're gonna hear a 285 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:17.759 word from our friends at Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. Go to get 286 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:22.440 your game on. Go for the beers, go for the cheers. Go 287 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:29.240 for the hit and the hits. Go for the steaks and the steaks. 288 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.519 Go to get your parlay on. Go to get your party on. Go 289 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:40.400 for the scene, go for the screens, go for the gallery, go 290 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.720 for the win. Go to Ocean. Visit theeoceanac dot com to plan your 291 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.680 visit. All right, So the best way to do this, Adam, 292 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.759 is just to break it up in a position. We'll go through certain positions 293 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.960 the Eagles, or we know the Eagles look into or value, and then 294 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.799 we'll talk about guys who they put work in or what we heard at these 295 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.799 positions, and guys that are likely to go in, you know, on 296 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.599 the second day or maybe even later. So let's start with the offensive line, 297 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:08.119 because the Eagles have done a lot of work on offensive lineman this draft, 298 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.359 which is always a good indication that at this point, do you would 299 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.359 you be surprised in there if in their first three picks one of them was 300 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.799 not an offensive lineman. Yes, I would be surprised if they don't, 301 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:25.599 because they're down what three linemen from last season signed Mattahannessy, who right now 302 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.839 will be the top backup interior lineman. They have very little experience of a 303 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.279 backup tackle. Raven Clark is the one experienced guy, Fred Johnson, but 304 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:38.400 he's a one position guy. Raven Clark could play two actually three, left 305 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.000 and right tackle and guard, but he's you'd rather have him a tackle. 306 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:48.160 It's okay. Depth, it's not great. Jack Driscoll really provided some good 307 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.359 depth for them. So yeah, and plus with I know, I'm always 308 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.880 I'm always careful when you see that, well Tyler Stems lining up as the 309 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.440 starter right guard in in April. Wel, that doesn't mean anything if we 310 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.680 even had the draft yet, I don't. I'll buy I'll buy it when 311 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.160 it actually happens in week one. Let's get through the draft before we give 312 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.640 Tyler Stein the job. I know he's had a good off season so far. 313 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.240 Let's let's hold off because we warned people before training camp started last season, 314 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.240 doesn't have a technique down, be careful saying he's the starter, and 315 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.480 he wasn't. There was actually never a competition in training camp, right and 316 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.839 the job to Jergins a little early which is surprising. Yeah, that drafts 317 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.359 to be a good decision. On the flip side, it's not even o 318 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:33.000 t a. Terrell Evans was a first team safety until literally the last week 319 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:38.960 before the season started.

So yeah, yeah, what's uh, Justin Evans 320 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.440 was the starter right over him? Or that's right, that's correct, Justin 321 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:45.359 Evans and Reid Blank and Ship. Yeah, so be careful with that stuff, 322 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.519 all right. So a couple of gar interior offensive linemen that the Eagles 323 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:53.680 have really put some work into. We've been told and we know is one 324 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.559 is a I think you even mentioned him on a recent podcast, and an 325 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.640 offensive guard from TCU, Brandon Coleman. And there's also a guard from from 326 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.119 Kansas State, Cooper Beebee, who has played both left all three left tackle, 327 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.599 left guard, and right tackle at Kansas State. These are some interesting 328 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.039 guys. So Brandon Coleman, we know, we were totally at a visit. 329 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:22.039 We're also told from other clubs that he's a multi position player. He's 330 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:23.720 going to go a lot higher than the public thoughts. As one source told 331 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.319 us, he goes to the he goes the draft. Experts don't have him. 332 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.799 He goes any draft. This one person we said that to us last 333 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.880 week, that he goes, he doesn't. The guy says, I don't 334 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.119 really pay attention to what you guys do a lot when you talk. But 335 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.519 the guy goes, look, he goes. We think in the NFL that 336 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.279 this kid will be a start of YR one and should go in rounds two 337 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.480 to three, could even could steak in the back of round two. Now, 338 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.559 how did the Eagles feel about him? We don't know what they're great 339 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:53.319 is on them, but we know they like them. They had him in 340 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.799 for a visit. Here's what I know, Jeff Stoutlin, we talked about 341 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.359 this now for six years. Loves physitional versatility. He projects to be a 342 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:07.119 guard tackle, a guard right tackle to be specific. The guy Eagles had 343 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.000 him in and you know what, I wouldn't. He certainly would not project 344 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:17.319 to be a backup. Starters are projected by draft in rounds one through three. 345 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.119 You don't draft a guard. You don't draft a guy in the round. 346 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.359 Don't think you won't compete for starting job. Now, fourth round, 347 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.000 different story. First three rounds. They got to compete for starting job at 348 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.759 some point on the rookie contract. Yeah, and if it's top fifty because 349 00:22:29.759 -->

00:22:32.359 they picked fifty and fifty third. You got to think that if you know 350 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.319 that guy would even have a leg up on the competition, depending on how 351 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:37.599 it comes into camp and plays. Oh, by the way, if they 352 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.400 drafted him, he's starting over Stein. I mean, they could say whatever 353 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.039 they want, but you don't draft a guy in this If they draft them 354 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:48.160 the second round, I bet you fifty bucks he starts over Stein. But 355 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.319 again, it's just before the draft right now. We'll see what they do. 356 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.279 Yeah. I know they want Steam to start you and I know this, 357 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.920 but let's just see what they do. Yeah. Now, that would 358 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.559 be both Brandon Coleman and Cooper b b from Band Kansas State, who has 359 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:06.160 also played multi positions left tackle, left guard, right tackle. They've also 360 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.839 looked into a guy from Washington. He's We've talked a lot about Troy Faltanu, 361 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:14.960 who is projected to He played left tackle at Washington, he could play 362 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.680 right tackle. Some people think he's athletic enough to play guard. But on 363 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:22.480 the other side of him at Washington at right tackle was Roger Rosenngarden, another 364 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.359 guy who could be a second third round guy. He ran a four to 365 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.279 nine to two ad him at six five three oh eight. We know that 366 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.200 when an offensive lineman runs a fast forty, it gets the Eagles attention. 367 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:38.359 Jason Kelcey certainly did. Cam Jurgens certainly did. And when an offensive tackle 368 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.200 does it, Lane Johnson, I think even ran a decent forty for his 369 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.720 size, it's going to get the Eagles attention. Yeah, he's uh. 370 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.680 I'm looking at my round projection from the information we have, it looks like 371 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:52.839 late third round as we're supposed to go that. So if he got drafted 372 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.839 there by Philly, so we could see competing for a starting job at some 373 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.319 point. Because you you don't draft, there's a thinking you don't. You 374 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.640 never draft backups in the third round, or at least thinking they're going to 375 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.359 be a backup. They may whind not being a backup, but you don't 376 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.960 draft a guy to specifically be a backup in the third round. So that's 377 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.480 an interesting name there. I would say on the offensive line, the kid 378 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.880 from Yale. I don't know how to say his last name. I know 379 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.079 it's Kieren Madiday, I don't know how to say it. He's a left 380 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.519 tackle. I think you actually were very I think it's a magga today. 381 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.759 Yeah, okay, lockage today. Yeah, I'm not totally sure. We'll 382 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.160 look it up. So the Eagles Combine interview with him. The question with 383 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.519 him is is he just a left tackle? You know, the Eagles are 384 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:44.279 super big on on on versatility. I'm very interested to see how clubs see 385 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.160 him will work on that. But I'm just interested because he's long. He's 386 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.559 been a great story of development. He's just out. He's sixty five and 387 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.720 combined size six five and three. A's long arms, seventy seven and a 388 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:04.160 zero point eight. But the it's the yeah, no, I'm sorry, 389 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:11.039 seventy seven that's his height. His arm length is ridiculous. Thirty six and 390 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.200 an eighth is not a storic, but it's way up there. Yeah, 391 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.240 I'm looking at I think I'm telling you this is a vintage Eagles analytics guy 392 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.880 for Day three. Played at Yale. You know, like you could say, 393 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.799 shouldn't go past the third round. I wouldn't think wow, you think 394 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.279 okay, Well, I guess I just think the Yale background might knock him 395 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.559 down a little bit. Well. You know what, though he's he's long, 396 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.880 he's a really good kid. He's athletic. You see. Now, 397 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:45.720 it's funny story about Lulken, the linebacker from who's made a ton of money. 398 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:51.880 He was so not recruited by agents for the eighteen draft, but no 399 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.599 agents really wanted him. He found one or two one that liked him, 400 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:57.279 and now he's one of the better inside of the backers in the league. 401 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.359 So you say, yeah, I get it. The process. How good? 402 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.319 How good can he be? If he played at Yale, He's probably 403 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:07.559 gonna be a doctor or something. But the kid's really good, and I 404 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.400 wouldn't discount it. Look, that kind of left is ridiculous. Yeah, 405 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.599 no, fair enough, because Kyle Duger went to Leonoa Ryan and you know 406 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.680 where'd he go in the second round or for late first with the Patriots? 407 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.039 I forget what it was second right, Yeah, yeah, So you're right. 408 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.400 It's

when you find an offensive lineman with tantalizing measurables. Sometimes the tape 409 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:32.160 takes takes a back seat to just the overall prospectability. So I could see 410 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:36.599 that happening. Two other guys that interest the Eagles. They had a visit 411 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:41.599 from Zach Ziner from Michigan. Now, remember he broke his leg against Ohio 412 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.400 State. A lot of times you bring a guy in just to see you 413 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.480 might be interested in, but it's also for you. You're wondering about his 414 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.440 medicals. You want to take a look at him, get to know him, 415 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.880 especially if he doesn't have a chance to work out at his combine or 416 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.599 a pro day. But obviously a lot of experience there. Forty two starts 417 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:03.799 at Michigan. That's Zach Ziner. Guy who had a combine interview was Yukon's 418 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.400 Christian Haynes. I've heard day two for him. It might even be late 419 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.599 second mid to late second round. Uh, some people see him as so 420 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.279 he's another interesting guy Connecticut. Who would have thought Connecticut putting out all these 421 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.920 tackles, right, Christian Haynes, Karan and Maggie from Yale gotta love it. 422 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.640 Yeah, Yukon's had some guys drafted over the years, so they have 423 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.839 the Eagles specialized in this guy. These type of guys that you know going 424 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:32.039 rounds two through particularly three and four, you know over the years. Now 425 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:33.400 we'll see about Steam, you know, didn't get off to a good start, 426 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.200 but look, you gotta go a couple more years to put the great 427 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.440 in. Yeah, there's a there's some good name yet. Uh, there's 428 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.759 a kid Travis Glover. Yeah, we was supposed to visit. He's from 429 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.799 Georgia State, not exactly a football powerhouse by the way, No, but 430 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.039 a five year starter, so a lot of good experience there. Yeah, 431 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.160 I think the way as we understand, he was supposed to visit but then 432 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.559 wound up getting canceled. But the Eagles definitely know about him late. I 433 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.599 was wait, I was just gonna add much much later than people. Well, 434 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.000 again, it only takes one team the draft a guy early, right, 435 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.680 But the level competition's the problem with him, And I was told third 436 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.759 day for him. Now it could be fourth round. But I know he's 437 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.279

got a lot of hype in some some Skott of circles and some draft analysts. 438 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.039 But it's just a level competition. But you just talked about it. 439 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:23.759 Five year stars important that that's pretty awesome, very much. So all right, 440 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.960 let's move on to pass catchers, wide receivers, tight ends. You 441 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.960 know, before we take talk day two or day three, you think Eagles 442 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.799 might take a wide receiver first round. You're getting any vibes, I'd be 443 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.000 Look, listen, I've learned my lesson with this particular team, you you 444 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.079 know, and I'm sure the fans. Everyone watching who's an Eagles fan will 445 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.119 will never forget when when Purchas drafted, they probably were shocked. I would 446 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.480 not be shocked because of AJ Brown's contract. We've been talking about this of 447 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.599 the entire all seas. We're not saying he won't be with Eagles in twenty 448 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.839 five. True, his cat, his cap and cash is so high for 449 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.640 twenty five. And remember it was a backloaded contract and fuff the deal up. 450 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.119 But you know, if I'm Aj and if he blows it up again 451 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.319 this season, if I'm him, I want a new contract. I mean, 452 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.799 what else could you ask for? The guy's been incredible. What a 453 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.160 trade I mean? And how he's not one to walk away from a player 454 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.000 like this. It's not like he's Redik who was turning thirty. AJ knock 455 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:25.200 on Wiki two to stay healthy. He turns just twenty seven somehow in June. 456 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.000 I don't know how. Seems like he's been in the league for like 457 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.200 fifteen years, but it does, you know, I think, I think 458 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.079 if it happens, it's because a lot of the guys that they had rated 459 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:37.799 as first rounders were off the board and maybe there was no trade down, 460 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.240 so you just take the best available player. And it happened to be a 461 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.160 wide receiver. It's a wide receiver. No, I was gonna what I 462 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.359 was going to add on to your point that's been in my wheelhouse, and 463 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.440 we mentioned Marcus Smith where the Eagles screwed up in twenty fourteen, is you 464 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.519 can't just rely on if your board gets blown up that well, we have 465 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.480 this trade worked out, but what if the what like I remember in twenty 466 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.440 nineteen, I don't have it in front of me exactly what the scenario was, 467 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.799 but we were told that they had a trade worked out with the Jets. 468 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.480 The Jets want to me call Hardman. Ironically they got him years later 469 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:18.880 with another general manager, but they wanted a Hardman and they Jets went up 470 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.079 backing out because I think the again I have to look it up. I 471 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.440 think the Chiefs might have traded up ahead of them and drafted them one spot 472 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.519 ahead of the Eagles. Okay, well, okay, there you go. 473 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:33.519 What the case may be is the Jets backed out and they kind of got 474 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.240 stuck. Although you know, they claim, they claim then how much they 475 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.480 wanted JJ or Fega. Whiteside didn't work out, So you got it, 476 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.640 you have to have every scenario. And this is why trade calls were made 477 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:48.240 for starting four weeks. We were told they're done starting four weeks, and 478 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.240 they firm it up like a week or so before the draft. No team 479 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.480 should ever be on the clock in the first round not having stuff worked out. 480 00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:57.960 If the board gets blown up, it's ridiculous. It should never happen. 481 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.880 Definitely, all right, So let's say they don't take wide receiver in 482 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.240 the first round, but they're looking at maybe second or third a guy that 483 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.160 visited them. This guy is really fascinating, not just because of his dimensions, 484 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:15.119 but the way the Eagles seem to be already stockpiling guys who are tweetyer 485 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.799 wide receiver tight ends. Right is Johnny Wilson Florida State. He had a 486 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.440 visit with the Eagles. He's got the body of a tight end at six 487 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.559 six, two thirty one, but he played wide. He played both, 488 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.039 but I believe he was mostly wide receiver his last year here at Florida State. 489 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.119 Oh yeah, So, an NFL receivers coach told me who I caught 490 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.160 up with recently. He said that absolutely would not try him at tight end 491 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.279 right now. He would wait he said there's something in his body. You 492 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.319 can't teach size as the term, and he'd want to. He'd want this 493 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.039 guy to come in as a receiver. Now, of course, it depends 494 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.400 on your needs at each position, because some teams we've talked to don't think 495 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.880 he runs well enough to play receiver going for it. It just

depends on 496 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.039 how each club looks at him. But I just thought that this guy West 497 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.359 Book was insisted he goes No, No, I want him because we drafted 498 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:13.680 him. He was I would implore our general manager to to let let us 499 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.680 playment receiver first before we decide what we're going to do with him. Should 500 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.240 be third day, fourth four, fourth or fifth round. Could sneak in 501 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.039 the third. We always just a phrase. It only takes one team to 502 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:30.680 to like a player or love a player. But Wilson's some coaches don't like 503 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.599 him at all because he's he's too big, you don't know, you don't 504 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.079 think he's flu enough. But he's interesting. He's an interesting player. And 505 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:43.400 the Eagles have tried these hybrid well, I should say receivers. They've tried 506 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.119 these former quarterbacks. They tried the kid. No now is with the Giants 507 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.599 to boy, was he doing well before he got hurt? Tyree Jackson Jackson? 508 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.880 Oh boy, he they really got it. It's too bad he got 509 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.200 hurt. Go ahead. Yeah, they had another kid though before that. 510 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.400 Who I thought? Also the thing played for the Cardinals, Hakeim Butler. 511 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.880 Yeah it wasn't he another tall, lengthy Yeah he They brought him a hero 512 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.720 as receiver, but I I don't know if he did. But the big 513 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.920 one is who you you mentioned him? The guy from U Mass. What's 514 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.400 the kid's name? Now? You Mass? You mean? Do you mean 515 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.559 a Fannie moment? That's it? Where do you go to school? I 516 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.960 don't remember. Maybe I thought he went to UMass. But what happened was 517 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.920 his forty day or pro day, whatever the hell was his forty His pro 518 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.079 day workout was so great that the Eagles couldn't help themselves. I think was 519 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.480 it with Chip? It was with Chip? Yeah, right, They could 520 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.559 not believe how well he moved, And you know what happened. He didn't 521 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:46.759 make it here. He also went up tearing his ACL with the Cardinals. 522 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.119 He actually stayed with the Cardinals. It got a very small extension, but 523 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.880 he did well enough to stay in the league. Yeah. So the league 524 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:58.200 is always looking for these guys who are so tall, who somehow could and 525 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.680 now you, by the way, comparison

is that guy that the Rams playing 526 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.160 him at receiver and tight end, and as we understand, the Eagles are 527 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.760 gonna play him at receiver. And watch this kid in training camp, folks. 528 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.119 It's a former fourth rounder for the Rams in twenty one. Yep, 529 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.199 can also punt, as we've talked about on the pod. There you go. 530 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.920 Yeah, so by the way, Boston College from Omas you were closed 531 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.360 trying to you. There you go. Another wide receiver. This is not 532 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:23.639 the same. He's not a tight end. He's certainly a wide receiver, 533 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.159 but he's a big one. He was supposed to have a visit with the 534 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.639 Eagles. It didn't did not happen. But Brendan Rice from USC who of 535 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.800 course is the son of Jerry Rice, had twelve touchdowns at him last year 536 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.239 catching passes from Tayler Williams on just I think it was twelve touchdowns. I 537 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.360 think forty eight catches, so that's a pretty good ratio. The knock on 538 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.280 him is a degree of stiffness. He probably will because though he's six two 539 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.119 and three eights, which is tall. He's probably gonna have to play inside, 540 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.800 is what we've been told. So we'll see. Yep. See. 541 00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.519 By the way, the Eagles have death issue at receiver. For the future, 542 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.679 they have nothing that they really They've got two guys a one year deals. 543 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.039 We know about their injury histories, especially Campbell's. Their death is really 544 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:13.840 poor for the future. Now their hope isn't gatta Jacob Harris, Watkins, 545 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:19.159 Sequan Swan Davis. One of these guys emerges as a backup outside receiver. 546 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.199 But right now they really need to address that position. I know they got 547 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.280 plenty of needs, particular on defense, but it would be nice if they 548 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.559 drafted and developed a backup receiver. Yes, I agree. Another position that 549 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.079 they've been trying to address depth but also for the future is tight end. 550 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.559 We've talked about this now. The one that really intrigues me not my guy 551 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.360 out of Penn State, Theo Johnson. He is intriguing. He's a great 552 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.840 athlete, and the Eagles did talk to him at the combine, interviewed him 553 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.639 formally. But from Texas's tight end Jatavian Sanders, who has both had a 554 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.840 formal interview and a zoom meeting, Andrew Decheco reported this a zoom meeting with 555 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.639 the Eagles, So that's two different ways that they've talk to Jatavian Sanders, 556 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:07.039 who is seen as a very fierce vertical weapon at the tight end position. 557 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:14.280 Adham, Yeah, he was a Senior Bowl guy. He is supposed to 558 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:21.679 go we're told late too early three in a draft that is very weak overall 559 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.960 tight end. Your guy, Theo Johnson Penn State, could sneak in the 560 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.119 second round. My favorite guy's Ben Sinnett Kansas State, who should go early 561 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.360 three. But Sanders could run. See the thing is he's kind of undersized, 562 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.800 and that that's when I say undersize. He's not like the super big 563 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.360 tight end like Jared Wiley's a white tight end, right, So he's an 564 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.000 athletic move guy. So it's gonna come down to how with clubs see him. 565 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.079 But the dude can move. Yeah, he's six, he's under six 566 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:57.519 four six three seven, a's only two forty five, only two forty five, 567 00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.800 but he can move. Yeah, well you better be able to move 568 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.199 if your two hundred and forty five pounds tight end, and I'm not. 569 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.760 You know, people are knocking for a four six nine forty. I'm come 570 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.559 on, he plays way faster than that. He's just smaller right right, 571 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.199 and then the last tight end again, this is from Andrew having a zoom 572 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.079 meeting with the Eagles. Is Jaheem Bell from Florida State. So obviously the 573 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.840 Eagles putting in a little work there at that position. Oh he is he 574 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:29.440 is my boy, Uh Brett Whitefield from Fantasy Points dot Com, who's phenomenal 575 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.519 doing the draft. He loves his kid. He came on our Fantasy showing 576 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.599 serious with John Hanson and I and he just raved about this guy. He's 577 00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.760 he Brett's a really good evaluator. He's a I don't know, I say 578 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:45.559 he secatrarian. He just he sees it a little differently. And he's another 579 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:52.880 one six to six to even just too forty, but he's long, he 580 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.800 could run the tape. Is way better than he's been given credit for. 581 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.960 He's another guy for six moves way better than that. So what does this 582 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.519 I've said this for seven year or six years, whever the hell it is 583 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.800 on our show. Eagles see things differently. A lot of

the guys, 584 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.800 now not all of them. They have a high percentage of guys being drafted 585 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.079 who've either visited or by the way, since COVID clubs have a much higher 586 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.199 they're a lot to have zooms with more than thirty players, like you only 587 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:29.519 get thirty pre draft. Hsicis to your complex. So it really seems to 588 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.679 me, with the time that they're spending with these undersized tight ends, that 589 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.400 maybe this is a Kelen Moore thing. Maybe he likes those guys. By 590 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.639 the way, coach Jerrard Everett last season with the Chargers. Hey, great 591 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.360 point there, very good point. Yeah, as far as Day three guys 592 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.360 that play either wide receiver or tight end, you know, the one that's 593 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.880 interesting is because we know that they they are looking at as you mentioned third 594 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:59.239 fourth you want, you want special teams a slot guy Anias. I think 595 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.280 I'm pronouncing you. It's either Anias or an Aus Smith from Texas A and 596 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.199 M. He had a visit with the Eagles. I mean he's got slot 597 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.559 written all over him. He's five to nine one eighty. He's also returned 598 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.679 hunts and he's even played some running back at at at A and M. 599 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.599 So that that to me, when you're five nine one eighty you looked at 600 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.119 as a slot slash returner, which is usually a Day three guy or the 601 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.679 receiver at best. But yeah, and who is the one? Who is 602 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.960 the guy? Andrew interviewed from Florida State? Was it Florida State this this 603 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.079 week? Wasn't Florida? It was from Slippery Rock or No, no, 604 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.119 no, no, he had a kid last weekend. I'm drawing a blank 605 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.119 wide receiver. Yeah, maybe it's not for state, but I thought it 606 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.400 was a receiver. Well, he did have a receiver from Slippery Rock name 607 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.679 Sheets. I remember him right right. He had the Monmouth running back Jayden 608 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.360 Sherdon, who, by the way, Darren Sproles if we were going to 609 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.119 talk about Day three and we weren't going to really get into running backs, 610 00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.760 but Darren Sproles went out and talked to Jaden Sherdon at his So I thought 611 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.400 that was really interesting. That's a name to watch there on dates. See 612 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.159 I running back because they want to take ty Davis price are really high on 613 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.559 and they gave them decent garanteed money. I just don't see them addressing receipt 614 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:16.440 running back position now, should they really count on it? No? Oh 615 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.599 no. The kid that he that he interviewed with, Jayshawn Jones. Oh, 616 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.639 the Maryland kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good 617 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:28.119 one. Yeah, that was really interesting. And he talked about Stephan Diggs 618 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.440 of course, so that's receiver and tight end we talked to. That's it 619 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.599 for off. You know, we'll talk more about these more. Well, 620 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.559 we have more names for you, but these are the guys who know the 621 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.440 Eagles I've intured had interesting definitely, all right, let us we'll move on 622 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:46.320 to defense defensive prospects before we do that. Whether your resolution is to save 623 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.039 money, eat better, or stress less, Hello Fresh is here to help 624 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.400 you do all three. 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--> 00:42:07.079 to do and take offensive line in round one. Then you know, on 642 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.280 those two picks in round two, you're looking to rebuild that defense. Get 643 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.159 some young building blocks. Might be an edge rusher, might be a linebacker, 644 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:19.480 a corner safety. Let's talk defensive line edge. Mostly because there are 645 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.440 a lot of I find there are to be a lot of pretty decent athletic 646 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.039 treat guys that will be available day two and day three, and the Eagles 647 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.760 have certainly done a lot of work on them as they usually do. One 648 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.239 of the guys is Western Michigan's Marshaun Neeland. Again, he had a combine 649 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.360 interview with them. He was supposed to have a thirty visit. I believe 650 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.679 that also got canceled. But this is the guy who's considered a very good 651 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.159 athlete and has a lot of upside. Yeah, And with canceled visits, 652 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.480 there are a number of reasons sometimes that the players stayed a second day with 653 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.079 a club or weather related illness. There are a number of reasons. I 654 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.840 don't read anything into it. Agree if it was canceled, you know they 655 00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.559 had at least had interest in them. So it's the world. Workouts mean 656 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:06.760 absolutely nothing, just so you know the position coaches will want some will work 657 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.159 out forty players. I read absolutely nothing. There's absolutely no indication of teams 658 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.400 going to play work drafted player as they worked them out. There's more of 659 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.480 an indication when they bring them in for a visit. Because clubs. If 660 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:20.719 you look at and we have all the Eagles visits, we'll go over more 661 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.639 of them next week. But they were done by the way yesterday. They 662 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.719 had to be out of the buildings by midnight. But there's a trend in 663 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.400 the The Eagles are big on this if they've had twelve receivers in their drafted 664 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.920 receiver because if that becomes the position they visit the most. I'm telling you 665 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.679 it, going back, I used to track these more than anyone in the 666 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:46.840 country. Clubs just do that if it's whatever position they visit with the most. 667 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.039 Doesn't always happen, but more often than not, they want up drafting 668 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.599 their player, usually pretty high because because they're telling you that they have an 669 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.920 issue, that's why they keep big in that position. That's it's pretty pretty 670 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.400 obvious, right. So that's Seawan neil In. Another a guy that Andrew 671 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:06.880 Dezeker wrote about, Jeremiah Washburn, who coaches the Eagles outside the sam linebacker 672 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:14.280 slashed edge roll. He went out to Colorado State to work out Mohammed Kamara, 673 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:20.280 a guy who is undersized but is considered very violent and explosive violent hands. 674 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.760 I mean I should say, uh an explosive. So you know, 675 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.360 the Eagles are putting in their work on the edge rushers as they always did. 676 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.480 So what happens is with so what they'll do is they'll take Washburns. 677 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.280 So let's say it comes. Let's say he's a third or fourth front pick 678 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.480 Kamara from Colorado State. They'll have that in their file on they'll be able 679 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.000 to look at that. Howie will when he makes the call is he'll they'll 680 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.880 already know about the player, but he'll use that background information. That's what 681 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.159 it's done. It's for background information, particularly when they draft him. And 682 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.239 also, by the way, Andy Reid told me this, they take pre 683 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.119 draft asit information. Although they there's a chance, there's a good chance they 684 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.800 want draft the player, they will have that video of that guy in their 685 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.559 building. How the interaction was so so with Washburn, you could tape the 686 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.280 private workouts, I believe, although I know they're not done. You know, 687 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.920 you can't work anyone out of your complex. Un it's a pro with 688 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.519 Local Pro Day, but I'm pretty certain they could tape the private workouts. 689 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.960 But nevertheless, even if they're not allowed to, they have what it looked 690 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.920 like is they work the guy out and they talked to him and interacted with 691 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.480 him. That stuff's important when it won't indicate they're going to draft a player, 692 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.119 but they'll use that information for background. That stuff's really important if they 693 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:34.039 decide they're going to draft a player. They have that interaction, and they'll 694 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.960 they'll Washburn I'm sure because remember you know he's been a he was a personal 695 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.039 director for the he goes at one point, h they'll have him in the 696 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.880 draft room and they'll be able to look at him and

talk to him if 697 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.719 they if they're gonna ready, if they're going to actually draft the guy, 698 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:52.239 that becomes really important. Yeah, I'm just curious because we're we're on day 699 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.960 two, guys, but we did mention lay too loud too and the medicals 700 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.280 and chop. Robinson's a very undersized guy who I think you have very few 701 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.880 sacks his last year at Penn State. In fact, Dieza Isaac, who's 702 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.519 also eligible prospect, I believe have more sacks. But in any of your 703 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.400 intell is there a shot because of his lack of size, that that he 704 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.760 slips into the second round? Oh yeah, a top forty pick for sure. 705 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.639 But yeah, sure, it's it's I've mocked him to the nine ers. 706 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.880 I'm always I've been mocking him twenty five to thirty two. So on 707 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.920 your point, you know you're drafting him on ups, you're drafting on projection, 708 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.519 you know, based on number his college numbers, it's not there for 709 00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.760 him to be a first round pick. But it's not about the first year. 710 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.000 You the draft that has been always will be for the future. And 711 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:45.000 it's like with and it didn't work out with Jen with with Jamie Davis, 712 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.400 clubs drafted him on total upside. He he didn't have the production to draft 713 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.599 him in the first round. The Commandos, like many teams, saw it 714 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.039 by year three he could be a really good player. Unfortunately it hasn't happened. 715 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.719 But it's all always about projection, not the not the intermediate future. 716 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.079 It's about projection down the road. What will this guy be? Sure? 717 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.320 Good stuff? All right, we'll move on from the So Neiland and Kamara 718 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.840 are guys. Day two there is a defensive tackle, Christian Boyd from Nordthern, 719 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.679 Iowa, who was supposed to again have a visit that one I believe 720 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.599 we heard got canceled. So as far as Day three guys, there's one 721 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.000 edge that really stands out because again Andrew wrote about this one, Jaylex Hunt 722 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.559 from Houston. Christian he had a pre draft visit with the Eagles. He's 723 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:39.360 fascinating at him because he started his career as a safety at Cornell and ends 724 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:45.239 up as an edge rusher, high upside traits laden edge rusher at Houston Christian. 725 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.719 I got. I'm gonna raise

my hand and admit to you, I 726 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.280 did not know that Houston Christian existed until I heard of this guy, much 727 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.280 like I didn't know about Leonora Ryan until Kyle Duggar came out for the draft. 728 00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.159 It's funny you say that, because when I got the list of players 729 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.480 it would be available back in February. I'm like, Ustian Christian is that 730 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.559 at Allline School? What what is that? You don't kind of like you 731 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:15.000 University of Phoenix or something like what what? What is this? You know? 732 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.280 Leonora Ryan? Like it's another one? Like where the hell is I've 733 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.400 never heard this? I don't either. I have no idea, but it's 734 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.119 pretty good. Scout him by the Patriots. Hobably just got an extension. 735 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.920 But yeah, well, before we move on to to off ball the ball 736 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.079 linebacker. He's a very interesting player and and uh Hunt did start his career 737 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.159 at Cornell, and obviously legals liked him. They had him for a pre 738 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.039 draft visit. That's that's pretty interesting. It is because I need sort of 739 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.960 a projected like sixth or seventh round guy. I mean, we're not talking 740 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.000 about a guy who's gonna most likely be picked anytime in you know, early 741 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.519 early in this draft or even mid Yeah. Yeah, So again, he's 742 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.679 supposed to be you know, fourth fifth round pick. But hey, listen, 743 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.400 who knows, Hey, Vic Fangio. They they've never worked with Fanroo 744 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:06.320 before. Maybe Vic sees him through through their staff as a sort of a 745 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.280 hybrid player. That would be interesting. Who knows? Right, All right, 746 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.760 let's move on to off ball linebacker because I'll just tell you right now, 747 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.320 I would be stunned. I know how many guys have signed at this 748 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.599 person, right. We know they signed Devin White, we know they signed 749 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.360 Aron Brooks, we know they signed Zach Baum, we know they got Nikobe 750 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.840 Dean, we know they have Ben van Sumern. I'd be stunned if they 751 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.079 did not take an off ball linebacker sometime before the end of Day two. 752 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:39.800 Just remember who was signed after the season, Nikobe Dean and Ben Van Sumern. 753 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.000 And that's it. That's it. That's it. So I really do 754 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.679 think they need a building block at this position, and they

have put a 755 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.559 lot of work. And listen, if this guy who has taken a visit 756 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.079 to them. Is there at fifty, I'd be shocked. But if he's 757 00:49:54.119 --> 00:50:01.679 there, Edrin Cooper from his athletic testing all the he like screams Eagles linebacker. 758 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.440 Just based on the analytics alone, Missus Studd. I mean, he's 759 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.719 just a really good football player. Man, he's going to go in the 760 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.559 second he goes had it in for a pre draft visit. Now, well, 761 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.320 how he pulled the trigger on off the ball. Linebacker the second round 762 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.519 doesn't have a great history of doing it as early as the secon und does. 763 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.559 It has a very small history of doing it. I'd have to look 764 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.000 up who made the call on Michael Kendricks. There's probably probably Andy back then. 765 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.039 But nevertheless, they don't have a history of doing it. And again, 766 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.599 the draft is back projection. It's down the line. You make a 767 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:37.320 good point. They have a lot of inside linebackers, but they don't have 768 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.000 anyone really for the future. Niakobe. I know he's going to start this 769 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.599 season, but he isn't stayed healthy and they need they need a future at 770 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.239 that position. So yeah, it wouldn't be a surprised at all. Now, 771 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.760 I'm not saying they can't draft a guy in the third round and we'll 772 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.119 you know, we'll Trotter. I don't know if Jeremiah Trotter Junior goes to 773 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.079 the I think he's more Round three than two because he's a smaller guy. 774 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.760 They had Trevin Wallison from Kentucky right could be a third round pick, so 775 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.800 I could see third round. I could see earlier as the third round, 776 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:07.800 which means the Eagles will probably have to maneuver a little bit because maybe trade 777 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.079 down with one of those second round picks because I believe they don't have a 778 00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.679 third round pick. They give it up for Picket. But listen, you 779 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.519 know how he's going to be wheeling and dealing throughout the draft. So yeah, 780 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.239 I agree with you. If it's third round, you're looking at a 781 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.639 Trevin Wallace who they brought in for a visit, or Jeremiah Trotta Junior, 782 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.559 which I think would be a great story if it happens for the Eagles. 783 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.119 A guy who had a combine interview was Jill and Ford from Texas, and 784 00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.800 then a guy who also had a canceled thirty visit Cedric Gray out of North 785 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.760 Carolina. So those are really like your your day two guys. Now, 786 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.599 I give you a day three guy who I watched I see him in person. 787 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.360 I think I saw him. Jordan McGhee from Temple Eagles were at his 788 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.920 pro day and the linebackers coach Bobby King led the workout at his pro day. 789 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.599 So I think that that's a name to keep an eye on. Just 790 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.119 so you know. The Eagles have a one to one two two's no three, 791 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.159 as you said, were three fives and six currently. Now, obviously 792 00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.480 if they make a trade right after we tape this, you know which, 793 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:08.920 by the way, they've had a couple of things happen in our seven years 794 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.079 where we literally taped it. We dropped at six am Eastern and like three 795 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:15.760 hours later they made a trade, did something with like people like what, 796 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.239 what did't you take this three days ago? No, he dropped it and 797 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.320 they did it afterwards. Relaxed, happens. It happened. Ye. No, 798 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.760 that is my biggest fear for this podcast though, quick no, but 799 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.280 uh and then the kid from is it Spates. Oh, I don't know 800 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.320 if it's Spates or spites, but Omar Omar spates from from LSU. Yeah. 801 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.480 No, he's a local guy, so he was able to go to 802 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.079 the local pro day even though he went to LSU. We were looking at 803 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.360 maybe like six seventh round, maybe a rookie free agent. Yeah, definitely 804 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.400 day three guy, and I would agree with your point on this. On 805 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.639 off the ball linebacker, I'd be stunned if they didn't draft one, and 806 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.239 this if they didn't select one in this draft and they really needed to. 807 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.920 It's the defense where offense they're pretty sat for the future except for it. 808 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.440 You're just depth at receiver with younger players. But man, they need some 809 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.719 developmental guys. Ye, so to prove their depth, their young depth. 810 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.599 That is definitely a problem for this team, particularly on the back end. 811 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.199 All right, we'll finish it off with defensive backs. Before before we do 812 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.400 that, we're gonna hear a word from our friends at Sky Motor Cars. 813 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.360 Sky Motor Cars and West Guess

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We're not going to get time to go through all of them 823 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.320 because Egles have paid a lot of attention. But you know the ones that 824 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.400 really jump out at him. You know, Max Milton is a local kid. 825 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.519 He was at the local pro day. He went to Rutgers. The 826 00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.440 Eagles have seen him at his pro day. Christian Parker, the defensive backs 827 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.079 coach, personally worked him out. He was at the Senior Bowl. He's 828 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:22.239 he is a probably a top fifty to fifty five pick forty. I think 829 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.960 forty. Yeah, that's a that's fair point. And if he his family's 830 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:29.880 ridiculous. The mom, the dad, his dad Gary played it h Rutgers. 831 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.840 Mom played, she did sports. I think she was doing track at 832 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.840 Rutgers. And you know his brother Bo's with the Packers. He's got another 833 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.280 brother played at Delare State. It's pretty amazing story and one of the best 834 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.920 off seasons of any player for this draft. And he's a great kid. 835 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.320 I'm gonna be great certainly. See the thing is that Cosell talked about this. 836 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.360 You know, sometimes may look him at as a nickel. He clearly 837 00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.400 could play outside because he's played it. That's really what he've played majority of 838 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.599 his career. But he could certainly play in side because he's played it. 839 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:02.719 So we'll see what happens with him. Rey Caestraw the problem with him, 840 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:06.280 he should go on the second round. I don't think I'll get out of 841 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:07.719 the second It's very competitive, physical, I don't. I just don't think 842 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.400 he runs well enough for the Eagles. Yeah, that's possible, and he's 843 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.480 not big enough per se to be a nickel. I don't know. I 844 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:16.800 mean, I don't know if they see him that way. I don't think 845 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.920 it's a position. He's played a whole lot, so he could be one 846 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.400 of those ones that just the body type isn't isn't there for them. Christian 847 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:28.199 Parker was also at his pro day as well, checked him out and also 848 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.880 talked to his teammate, who is supposed to be I think a Day three 849 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.320 guy. His name is escaping me. It's one of those hyphenated names. 850 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.280 I can probably find it in a second. But oh, Draine, Yeah 851 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:45.559 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's another interesting guy who's a Day 852 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.559 three guy. Corner. Yeah, Chris Abrams drain yeah, right right. 853 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.440 I saw Missouri play a lot many They were explosive of offense, and they 854 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.000 had some really good defensive players. Robinson of course, is going to go 855 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:04.599 in the late first mm hmm. And a couple guys to a couple other 856 00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.119 guys. I believe Cam Richardson is his full name is to Cameron Richardson, 857 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:15.320 just by d Cam at Mississippi Mississippi State. He's he's a third or fourth 858 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.760 round guy. We're told. I believe he visited. If I'm not mistaken, 859 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.440 I know I heard he was on their list. I assume he made 860 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:23.280 the visit. We just know that they like him because he's long, he 861 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:28.119 could run. He's I hate this char moving up draft boards. It's usually 862 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.119 a fallacy, but he's a guy who's had a lot of juice in the 863 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.760 offseason. And then to check, Andrew had a visit from Jerry and Joe. 864 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.119 He said they Eagles had a visit with Jerry and Jones. Yeah, 865 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.920 day three guy, late rounder Florinda, Florida State corner back there. So 866 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.199 you know, you know, the Eagles are gonna throw some darts probably at 867 00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.400 these positions, and this would be a guy who went to a big school, 868 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.639 a lot of experience there, so that that would be corners, you 869 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.400 know. Safety. By the way, Andrew Phillips, we didn't mention him. 870 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.039 We both saw him at the Senior Bowl and he was really impressive. 871 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:58.519 He went to Kentucky, he visited I believe he visited. Yeah, he 872 00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:04.719 visited the Eagles too.

He's kind of a Day two guy definitely. I 873 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.519 thought he had a really nice Senior Bowl. So maybe probably third round, 874 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.440 maybe sneaks into late second round. But Andrew Phillips out of Kentucky. And 875 00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.599 then as far as safety is Adam, they've done a lot of combine interview. 876 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:15.880 When they were at the combine, they pretty much talked to any safety 877 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.920 who was pretty good, and that includes Minnesota's Tyler Nuban, who will probably 878 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.599 my intellis will be a second round pick. Yep, Jaden Hicks from Washington 879 00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:30.119 State, killn Block from USC, James Williams Miami, and Malik Mustafa wake 880 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.199 Forest, I mean, these these guys are gonna vary on where they go, 881 00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.280 but all of them formerly met with the eagles of the combine cam kitchens 882 00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:44.679 who could sneak into the third round. He's he's not as highly grated as 883 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.880 I was told. Like in January, I was told a little bit stuff 884 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.679 and it wound up as as coaches in front of us people got through the 885 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:52.039 tape. He didn't think he was as good as I thought he was what 886 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.559 I'm utually told, but should go third or fourth round before we get out 887 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:02.039 of here. My thinking is, because I know what we've heard is for 888 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.679 over the years, they've tried. They wanted to address the position two or 889 00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.440 three times, but the board got blown up. You certain things happened, 890 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:13.000 They traded it out, didn't have an extra pick, whatever the case may 891 00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.719 be. So we'll see what they do. But I'm agreeing with you. 892 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:21.480 I have I have a hard time imagining that if they don't have a third 893 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.000 round pick at least that they don't trade like And we'll talk more about this 894 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:29.920 next week. But I still think they I still think they wind up getting 895 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.519 more picks somehow because they have so they need so much help on defense and 896 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.960 this is not a team. They're not in a rebuild. They're retooling, 897 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.880 specifically on defense. It's not a great division. The odds makers, by 898 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:45.320 the way, have the Eagles and and Cowboys with ten a half wins. 899 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:46.880 So that division's wide open. You know, if it's so four, this 900 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.360 division's definitely wide open because no one's repeated it's and so for so let's see 901 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:54.639 what happens. Definitely. I last two names, Andrew did interviews with them 902 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:59.639 on our platform. Safety out of Utah, Sioni Vaki, Joe Casper, 903 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.119 safeties coach, went to his pro day. This guy played both safety and 904 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:07.639 running back at Utah. Also did some receiver drills. So that's a Day 905 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.519 three guy with a lot of analytical tests that the Eagles will like. And 906 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:15.559 Sean Stevens from Farris State. He is Joey Porter's nephew and Joey Porter Junior's 907 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:20.679 cousin went to Ferris State. He had a thirty visit with the Eagles. 908 00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.119 So that finishes it off for d backs and all the other guys that we 909 00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:27.719 mentioned who we look forward to seeing go on Day two and Day three and 910 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.840 hey, they might be Eagles, all right. That's gonna do it for 911 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.960 this episode of Inside the Birds, the leading podcast in eagles intel, and 912 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:39.719 as always we thank you for flying with us Insidedubbirds