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Welcome to H.Y.S.T?! I'm Bradly Hackworth joined by Jonathan Ems, otherwise known as Doc.
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Greetings fellow humans.
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And this week we are going to be covering a... fantastic?
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This comes about because of just an offhand story that I told. Because remember it was, you offhandedly said that you wanted to cover Stardust someday.
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And I mentioned that I only knew of Stardust by accident because I was living in China and thought I was buying a bootleg copy of the Golden Compass and actually got Stardust by accident.
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And because of that we have decided to cover Golden Compass and Stardust together in one show. Which I'm gonna have to say was a really, really bad idea on our part.
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I don't know because it's kind of like done well versus no.
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Also, can you imagine, spare a thought for me, because Stardust being what it is, imagine not just going into it not knowing what to expect, but literally expecting something else.
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Can you imagine how completely upside down confused I was by this movie?
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I can just about imagine.
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Or in a good way I guess.
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A little bit. Yeah, yeah. I mean no matter what if you pop in a movie and it winds up being Stardust, you won.
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I mean if it's not your kind of movie, it's not your kind of movie. But I mean good god it's my kind of movie.
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Like this is like 80s adventure movie done with modern effects and done right.
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It's like an episode of Shelley DeVaul's fairy tales with a multi-million dollar budget.
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That is a reference you are going to get and some other people are going to get, not me.
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Literally no idea. But I absolutely could not. I couldn't get on board with this one.
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The Golden Compass, it absolutely killed me. It removed just a chunk of my soul.
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Pun intended.
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Thank god. Thank god we were covering Stardust. This is a backup episode.
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So I had other movies this week to really counterbalance the bad movie.
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Wow, what a movie. Okay, but you know what, that's going to be part two. We're going to get on that one on part two.
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The first one, we're going to jump in on this and it's Stardust, a fantastic movie directed by Matthew Vaughan,
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written by Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughan, based on Neil Gaiman's work, starring Charlie Cox, Claire Danes,
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Michelle Pfeiffer and Mark Strong, with Sienna Miller, Dave Kelly, Ben Barnes, Kate McGowan, Melanie Hill,
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Henry Cavill, Peter O'Toole, Jason Fleming, Mark Heap and Sir Ian McKellen.
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Which yes, both of these movies had Sir Ian McKellen, so we did it again.
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It is the Sir Ian McKellen voiceover hour.
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But my god. Okay, the cast on this one, it wasn't just that they got the cast.
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They actually got the cast and then got the cast to give a damn.
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Nobody saw this.
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Everybody in this movie took a whole nother level. They were playing characters that they don't use.
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Well, except for Claire Danes. Claire Danes was still playing Claire Danes.
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But she was having fun with it, clearly.
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But everyone else, they were playing characters that weren't their normal cup of tea, but they still made a meal out of them.
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Absolutely.
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When we watched this, Kelly was like, I'm really surprised that we don't own this one.
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And I told her, I was like, every time it's available to stream for free, it's like the perfect amount of time since the last time that I watched it.
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So I never really found the purpose in buying it because it's perfectly spaced out to exactly hit me the perfect way every time.
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And it's just a few years in between when I watch it.
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But I will be watching this movie at least every few years until the day I die.
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I guarantee it. There's too much in this and there is nothing to date this movie.
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This is purely timeless.
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I don't think an age range is going to give a like universally this movie could be loved.
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Yeah.
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And I love one of the like the opening narration from Sir Ian McKellen.
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Are we human because we gaze at the stars or do we gaze at the stars because we are human?
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And fantastically fantastic philosophical question.
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But then matched up with do the stars gaze back?
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And I love that this entire story is based off that premise.
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That's that's like that's like the like the polar opposite.
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When you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss stares back.
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Right. Exactly.
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It's like it's very much like you've got
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your nihilist philosophy and your optimist philosophy of abyss versus the stars.
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We covered a movie on this channel that it started with that statement about the abyss, didn't we?
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I don't remember.
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I feel maybe the serpent in the rainbow.
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The opening had something to do with that.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The space between life and death or something like that is where mankind lives.
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Something like that. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But opening on the fantastic narration explaining a young boy's request to learn about another world on the other side of a wall with a young scientist writing back saying it's not possible.
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Wrong.
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Right.
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Oh, I love this.
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Oh, my God.
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David Kelly playing the guard that wouldn't let the Thor's rule.
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I loved that guy.
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That can get such a small role.
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And I loved everything.
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Like every I don't know if there's a single frame of this movie that I am not head over heels in love with.
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No, it's true.
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Yeah.
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No point did anything get done half-assed or just like this is just to get us from here to there.
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We don't need to put any thought into it.
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No, no.
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Every single bit of this movie was given a lot of love for sure.
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Yes, I love it.
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The old guard gets tricked and the line that I love that the young Tristan or the young Thorp says like, is it a magical?
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No, because it's a field.
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How he delivered that was such simplicity.
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Yet the way that they delivered like.
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Good God, it is such it makes all the sense in the world.
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Why Charlie Cox got launched into stardom from this?
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Yeah, well, and it's kind of amazing too, because like we have here is the fairy tale that is started by another fairy tale, which is this guy who literally because his towns got this old legend of regarding there's a wall and there's a hole in the wall that we got a guard standing on, you know, for the last 60 years, apparently, you know, he's very dedicated to that job because no one can go there is another world.
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he's like, well, that can't be true.
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So I'm going to go check it out.
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He goes check it out and immediately gets laid very much.
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Yeah, you're you're the new guy.
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You're the guy on top of a fairy tale.
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The guy from out of town.
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But into that market, the double headed elephant.
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Fantastic.
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All of those eyeballs in that jar.
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I don't know how many times I've seen this movie, but I know that every time I have seen this movie that has got me to laugh my ass off.
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Every time. Well, because it's not it's not just it's the it's the weird little popping noise that happens every time the eyeballs irises show up out of nowhere.
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Just like it's very kind of like not quite Looney Tunes, but almost like a nod.
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No, I think it is very Looney Tunes.
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I think that the nod that you're talking I think that is one hundred percent.
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I think they were like, no, it was Looney Tunes is shit.
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And our first look at Princess Una played by Kate McGowan, not to be confused with Kate McKinnon.
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If you don't know who Kate McGowan is, you're wrong.
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And Ditchwater Sal played by Melanie Hill.
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And good God, I love the pricing system.
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It might be the color of your hair or all of your memories before you were three.
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That was oh my God, I can't even fully explain how much I love that creativity on that.
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I don't think I've ever seen that anywhere before or since.
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That's that's that's old school fairy.
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That's like kind of like the old legends of the fairy world that was that you don't know any of them.
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When you make yeah, when you when you make a deal with the fairy folk, they take the price that you have to pay are obscure things like your, you know,
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your name or the memories. Oh, OK.
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Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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OK, I can see that. The price for this very particular flower that very much like, wow, the whole movie is based off of this flower.
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And like six other things like this movie is so perfectly everything in it is so perfectly tied together.
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This is one of those you that the studio could not interfere.
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Otherwise, everything would fall apart. Like, right. Yeah. This was one of those.
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The flower is they still got Claire Danes in the bath, though.
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So, you know, some concessions were made that.
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OK, I never read the book, so I actually don't know if that's part of the book.
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So I have nothing to say on that one. I don't know.
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The price of the flower is a kiss.
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Yeah, and then some I like that's like if I can't liberate you, what do you want from me?
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Nine months later, a baby shows up at the wall.
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And the look, the look that the guard is giving him when he drops off the baby like, hmm.
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This is this is why we don't let people go through the wall. Shit like this happens.
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See, they don't have prophylactics over there.
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Right. Yeah. 18 years pass and Tristan is off to become a man.
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And I love the Ian McKellen like this is in the story about how he became a boy.
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It's the story of how he became a man and man Charlie Cox coming in.
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The most adorkable care.
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I think Tristan Thorne is the Thorne is the like most perfectly adorkable character in all of cinema history.
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He's perfect when he when he puts on the warrior vibe, it makes sense when he's playing goofy and like kind of useless.
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It makes sense. He rushed this role.
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Totally. By the way, in case you're not familiar with who I'm talking about, this is the actor who plays Daredevil all the way back in like his film debut.
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Yeah. And Matthew Vaughn fought really, really hard for Charlie Cox.
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Turned down like I didn't want to Caprio didn't want like any of these big, big names that were coming through.
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He turned them all down and he fought for Charlie Cox.
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Sometimes you need to just trust the director often most of the time, most of the time, trust, trust the director.
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When he goes up to Victoria's window and then not like throws that rock and they're like, it's Humphrey.
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And then they come out and they see it's him, just the disappointment. My God, I felt I felt that.
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I know you did too. Ouch. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Just come to like the girl. Yeah.
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The girl you have a crush on, like
you go up to try to take your chance, come out there disappointed that you're not another person.
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Oh, oh, God. Oh, that is just painful.
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And then that did I leave something at the shop? Oh, he's standing there throwing rocks at your window, holding flowers in the street.
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And you're like, what do you want? What do you think, bitch?
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Poor Tristan, poor, poor, dumb, thirsty Tristan.
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And God, what a way to just make me think of younger me and how unbelievably pathetic I was.
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Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah, it hits. It hits. It stings.
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But then Henry Cavill shows up as Humphrey to fence and humiliate.
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And I think this is the first on screen appearance of Henry Cavill where you actually see the adult version of Henry Cavill that actually is going to be Superman.
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Because if you go watch The Count of Monte Cristo and you see him as Albert Mondego, he does not look like he's going to grow up and be Superman.
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He is one baby faced little pretty boy.
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Do you remember that movie?
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No, no, I don't think so. I'm trying to remember if I ever actually saw it, but I don't remember.
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Very, very. I have to say very, very big mistake if you skipped it.
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Like that is remember the Titans level like mistake because that one.
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I mean, I know. Yeah, no. OK.
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Well, we'll definitely get into that one another time.
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I know. I know. I've seen at least four different versions of the of the three musketeers.
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So, you know, I know Hollywood has a thing when it comes to to Alexander Dumas books. So, you know, I guess I don't know.
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And I will say the worst version of the three musketeers movie is probably still my favorite.
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Oh, you're talking about the one Leonardo DiCaprio, Kiefer Sutherland, Oliver Platt and Charlie Sheen.
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Yes, that was the man in the iron mask. Yes. No, no, no. I got I got to say that was probably the man in the iron mask.
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That was three musketeers. The man in the iron mask had Leonardo DiCaprio and Jeremy Irons.
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Both that was also I have I don't know.
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But both those Athos and Aramis were played by Kiefer Sutherland, Oliver Platt and Charlie Sheen.
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Oh, I remember that is it is nothing. I wasn't good fun.
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No, I
remember that. And yeah, I have to agree. It is definitely the worst one, but it is also my favorite.
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I'm right there with you.
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But I could have sworn that that was that that was that they called that one the man in the iron mask.
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They didn't call it three musketeers, I thought. No, it was it was three musketeers movie, obviously.
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But they but they know I hands down guarantee you. Yeah.
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Because that was I saw them too close together.
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I remember that was the first three musketeers movie to come out after I read the book the first time.
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So and I will say like the three musketeers movie that came out like 10 years after that dynamite movie.
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Absolutely amazing. The sword fights, everything about it was fricking perfect.
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Wasn't funny. And that's what that's the only reason otherwise perfect movie.
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It just wasn't funny. But back to this absolute amazing this Victoria showing up to his work and oh, she is horrible.
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And he is damn dumb.
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Dude, that was his job. And just I mean, like he had to know it was going to just had these like I'm going to do this.
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It's going to be romantic and she's going to see it and it's going to and she's going to see what she's worth to me.
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The movie never explained that, but I feel that's what he thought.
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Yeah, it's like I take a gamble here because like she's like she's like I don't understand Victoria, honestly, like as a character, like he's kind of conniving.
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But that will because like, OK, so he's disappointed to see him, but she gets that he's into her.
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So first thing she does is start toying with them, showing up at the shop saying, would you like to walk me home knowing full well that he's going to get in trouble for that.
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And he doesn't just get in trouble. He gets fired from his job.
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And then when he shows up, like because clearly he's an idiot, he shows up with a full picnic spread of like really good wine and food.
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He goes along with it and actually starts to seem appreciative, actually seems to like like she kind of likes the guy.
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But also at the same time starts telling him about how she's going to be getting married to Humphrey pretty soon.
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But I think the middle of the movie throws a perfect explanation on to Victoria's character.
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She's so shallow that Tristan can't even tell Yvain about her.
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Like he can't even tell her what she's like because she's so shallow.
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There's she's not like anything.
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So I think her character was just shallow and like maybe the prettiest one in the village.
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So Tristan was like her.
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I guess. Yeah, I mean, that's the problem with villages.
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You know, it's either she's either a cunt or your cousin.
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As much as I really want to deny that the small town that I moved to, because like I said,
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I guess I grew up in a smaller town in North Dakota, but we still had thousands and thousands of people.
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I then moved to a smaller town where my graduating class was like 28 people, I think.
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And yeah, when I would sit down there and talk to them and be like, well,
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and they would talk about fan the reunions and everybody showing up at each other's family reunions.
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And I just sat there going like, how do you any of y'all plan on dating?
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Like, yeah, how does this work?
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That was like, no, we really don't have a choice.
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We kind of got to wait until we are adults and move.
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I don't want you to date till you're 18.
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So unless you want to do some Lucy and fallout stuff.
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Wait, have you seen that yet?
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No, I have.
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Were you expecting a bigger reaction?
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Like, oh, yeah.
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I thought that like the because the joke that she's like after 10 years of cousin stuff,
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I'm really excited for the real thing.
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I honestly, yeah, I thought I was going to get a bigger chuckle out of that.
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I'm not going to lie.
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It took me a second to remember that line.
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I remember that I remember the concept.
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I forgot the actual line.
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Well, but see, here's the thing.
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Like, I remember years ago, I think I was like maybe 12, 13 years old.
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I remember going back to my mom's hometown and they were having this huge, huge
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and filled it full of people with a giant like stage with a DJ.
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I don't remember what they were celebrating, but it was gigantic.
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And and I remember even like, you know, and I'm hanging out there with like, you know, some family.
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It's my mom's hotel.
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So I got like a bunch of cousins and stuff there, you know, and I happened to catch side of this pretty,
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pretty cute girl about my age.
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And I remember like elbowing my cousin and I'm like, hey, who who's that?
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And she looks and she goes, oh, that's our cousin so and so.
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I'm like, God damn it.
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Fuck.
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Oh, awkward.
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Yeah, I'm very happy.
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I don't have that story.
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I. It's the big city for me from then on, man.
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Understandable.
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Then you just wouldn't know.
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Awkward. Awkward.
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Wow. Awkward. Yeah.
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No. Did you hear they have that problem in like some of the Norwegian countries?
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They literally. Yeah.
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There's literally apps where you before you start dating someone, you can check to make sure you're not related.
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Yeah, I've heard that on some of the countries that like they don't travel, don't allow immigration, stuff like that.
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Yeah, no, I've heard that's a pretty big problem.
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And I've been laughing about it for a while because that is too funny.
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But the father finds out and honestly, like there is not one moment that this dad was not a dynamite dad.
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Yeah. Never lost his cool.
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Every piece of advice was solid.
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He had the patience, wished his son good luck on a grand adventure.
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Like just outstanding dad. I loved it.
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And then Tristan tries round two, but this time he brings the bubbly.
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And I like that. This was a great thing that that Neil Gaiman did.
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Tristan talks about there's a difference between being I'm not a shop boy.
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I just happen to work at a shop for now.
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Later in the movie, somebody else says that to him and it very much affirms how he feels about himself.
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And that's the difference when you have the partner that pushes and like helps you realize things about yourself that love it.
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Love it. His four year hand in marriage lines.
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He almost gets that smooch because that's the thing.
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Victoria is so shallow that you can buy her.
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Like acts of service and just being told that I'll do things for you and stuff like that.
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That's all it took to get her in.
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Humphrey's going to Ipswich.
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But no, Tristan would go all the way to the Arctic and slaughter a polar bear and bring it back its head.
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That was she did.
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I mean, at least she didn't go like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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What am I going to do with a polar bear?
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I mean, come on.
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A polar bear's head.
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No, that one.
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And I like the look on his face, too.
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He's almost there for the kiss.
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He's right there.
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And then she's like, a polar bear's head.
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He's like, oh, that was dumb.
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That look was perfect.
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You could have seen that one coming.
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He sold that perfectly.
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Over to Stormhold with I loved Ian McKellen's narration there.
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If only Tristan knew how the stars would watch, he would probably have died of humiliation right there.
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Luckily, everybody was looking at Stormhold.
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And then we flash over to Peter O'Toole having the time of his life with this role.
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Have you ever seen him so happy?
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Like he was so happy.
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Just to be there goofing like that.
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Like he just there was so much joy in him.
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I can't like that.
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That might be my favorite.
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Peter O'Toole.
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Probably was the most.
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Yeah.
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And probably was one of the most fun roles he's had in a long time because he's been he's been Mr.
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Masterpiece Theater for
so long.
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He's probably gotten pretty bored of it.
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He was like, can someone just make me a giggly evil king for just five minutes, please?
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And that's the thing.
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Everything about this scene was utterly horrific.
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The only thing that made it not horrific was how like the the options for the performances from these actors.
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Everything was about murder and killing each other and all this.
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And I killed all of my brothers before I was 12.
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And all this stuff.
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But the only thing that is not making it kind of a heavy scene is the joy that is coming across the actors where they're doing it.
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I.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God. He was just just.
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Man.
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Yeah. So he yeah.
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So he's king because he killed all 12 of his brothers before his father abdicated the throne.
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He's shocked out of his seven sons.
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Four are still alive.
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He's like, this is this is unprecedented.
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Until Mark Strong tosses the one brother the one brother played by Rupert Everett right off.
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And by the way, I don't see Rupert Everett that much.
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And in this, the voice that he chose, I didn't even recognize him at all.
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No. Yeah.
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Well, there was the other brother, the one that got off next.
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He was someone who's who I've seen multiple times.
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And every time I see him, it takes me a long time to realize it's him because he's another chameleon.
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That's Mark. Right.
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Mark Healy. Yeah.
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He's the he's also in what he's in a couple of British TV shows that I really liked.
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And like in the second one that I saw him in, it was literally like halfway through the first season before I realized it was the same guy because he was he was he was so opposite of the first character.
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So yeah.
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And he's he's another he's another like, you know, he's not another one of those too good for his own good kind of guys because he's so good of an actor.
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You never realize it's the same guy twice.
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So which I love because Mark Strong tosses Rupert Everett
out the window and then you get Mark Healy like, oh, hi.
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But I thought it was funny because the guy we're talking about, Mark Healy, gets mistaken for Kate McGowan by Peter O'Toole.
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He's like, no, bother.
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I'm whatever your son.
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Just because you could tell, like, that's not the first time it's happened. But also, it really seemed like Peter O'Toole in character was just messing with him.
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Right.
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Too good.
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But after the after Rupert Everett takes that deep dive, we get our first look at the at the the dead princes because the mechanic in this movie, a new king has to be crowned.
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Otherwise, all the previous princes will stay in like limbo and kind of just poltergeist.
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There's going to be ghosts hanging out.
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Yeah.
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And the best use of a peanut gallery I have ever seen because their whole vibe, the whole movie is just like they really kind of like I would say they made the movie if now for the fact that there were a thousand other things that made this movie.
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But my God, did they make because like everything that's happening, you can see these five and then eventually six ghosts just sitting there going like, hey, no, look, look, look, look.
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I was like, she's right there.
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Oh, yes, absolutely.
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But the brothers are played by Julianne Rint, but Adam Buxton and David Walliams and I even put it here.
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It always cracks me that he thinks Tertius is his daughter, Una.
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He's got a mustache.
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Like I was having that does crack me up.
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I love how cheeky they are about murder and making the ordeal with the Ruby.
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So the first of the remaining princes to touch this Ruby that the red has been removed and it looks like a diamond now.
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It will return its color and they will be the new crowned king.
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So that's what kicks off that or that.
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He does some he does some sort of spell thing to shoot it up in the sky.
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And apparently it bonks a star and both the necklace and the star in the form of Claire Danes fall to the earth because good star.
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You know, you know, yeah, that was a good casting for a star.
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I know. No, she was she was really good. Yes.
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I thought she was fantastic.
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OK. No, that was it.
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Go ahead.
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Can you. Oh, yeah.
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My note on this. Bam.
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Crashing into a star and then Tristan, I'm a go get it.
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The princes have their ordeal and Victoria's like, oh, a falling star.
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And he's like, I will go get it for you or your hand.
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Yeah. And let's let's not lie.
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We have all been in that situation.
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We are so desperate to protect to impress a girl that we will do.
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We will vow ahead of time premeditatively to do something profoundly stupid.
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And we will follow through.
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Correct. And the thing that we hopefully learn some point in our life, you can't buy love.
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Dumbass. That's not how that works.
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Michelle or the star falls and first look at witchy Michelle Pfeiffer and and at a shimmering Claire Danes.
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Again, fantastic casting for a star, which how you even think to cast a star.
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But they nailed it. Like, fantastic.
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Well, I mean, it did.
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I remember in the credits, it did say that the Neil Gaiman book was they gave credit both to Neil Gaiman as the writer and another guy whose name I'm forgetting as the illustrator.
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So I'm guessing this was some sort of illustrated book.
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So maybe they just looked at the picture and went, who does this look like that?
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You know, very well. I don't know. Having never having never seen it.
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I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah.
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Pfeiffer goes and wakes the other witches, witches played by Joanna or Joanna, Scanlan and Sarah Alexander, who give a decently small hint that a Babylon candle is rare without going too hard in the paint about it.
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I like that.
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And then she's cheating at picking an organ. I have his liver, I have his kidney and I have his heart.
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And I love the dirty look that she gets from the other way.
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They play sisters very, very well.
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How do you scale? What do you suppose the scaling is when it comes to organs like that? Like, what's you know, I don't know.
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But I'm very sure that the heart is the lead. So that's pretty sure.
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I mean, liver, kidney or I think you'd put liver over kidney because you can survive without a kidney. You can't survive without a liver liver.
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Mm hmm. But neither of them work without the heart. That's a good. That's a good point.
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Yeah, that's a.
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I think we just stumbled into what the point system is actually.
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Eating the last of the star and then oh.
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Michelle Pfeiffer so pretty.
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I know. So incredibly unbearingly disarming. She is so pretty.
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And there's a reason why they write songs about her. OK, yep.
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No, that's the crazy thing about it, too, is like and this happened to, you know, last time I saw that that freaking song, you know, closest thing to Michelle Pfeiffer that you've ever seen.
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Like that song stuck in my head for the whole fucking movie because, yeah, the truer words have never been spoken.
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Yeah, she gets in your head and yeah, deserves to be.
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I mean, her and Renee Russo. Oh, my God. The 90s. Oh, my God.
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David Kelly thinking Tristan is his dad and drops the hint about crossing whoops his ass.
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And I'm sorry, those kicks. I don't know why those kicks were so funny, but those kicks made me laugh.
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And then no, a few go.
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Then we get the we get the we we see like this guy who's been guarding this wall for 80 some odd years.
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We find out he ain't playing. He he's he's been this is a serious job to him and he he earned his respect for that job.
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And the funny part is, because Dunstan went through just 20 years earlier, this guy started practicing martial arts when he was 80.
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So that that might be my favorite part of it.
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And he's still salty about it, too, that you can tell he's he's like, Mer, one of you got through.
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And this time I'm prepared for your ass.
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And the thing is, the guard has to know that the guard knows that Tristan is from the wall.
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So there was always that.
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Danes as Yvain wakes up and puts on the necklace, which, oh, like that always a crime is like, oh, oh, oh.
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OK, I mean, I kind of get it. But at the same time, if you if you got clunked on the head by a giant diamond, you'd be like, well, this is mine now, too.
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They chose me clearly. No. OK, I'll give you that.
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The letter from mom and
learning about like, well, his dad giving him the full lesson, telling all this.
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And I think it's it's funny, too, is how he figures it out, like the guard just like the guard just dropped that tiny hint when he just like, oh, I suppose you think you're going to go through, too.
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And he's like, what do you mean, too? I'm like, he's like, nothing. No, no one's ever gotten through.
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It didn't matter because he figured it out instantly.
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He he goes home and he's like, OK, dad, talk.
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And I like that his dad just gives him the full story of this.
423
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And I like the fact that the story was given to him off camera. And then when he finds the cameras, like, oh, just like in your story, like we didn't need that that fast.
424
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Right. Exactly. I'm having so close together.
425
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:54,000
And I'm glad that this and this movie made the very, very right decision to go that way.
426
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Matthew Vaughn is good.
427
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:04,000
He's one of the it's got one of the best. Actually, I think he has the best X-Men movie.
428
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000
I think. OK, which which one? First class.
429
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000
It's arguable. It's arguable. Yeah.
430
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:17,000
I mean, it's tough with the X-Men movies because they're there because this thing is like when it comes to when he comes to the Sony's X-Men.
431
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
OK, let me be clear. I wouldn't. There are good scenes.
432
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,000
I'm not counting Logan. I'm not counting Deadpool. I'm not counting the Wolverine. I'm not counting any of those.
433
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,000
I'm counting the only the ones that actually have the team up, the X-Men.
434
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,000
To be clear. Yeah. OK. I actually in my opinion, I think it's the best one.
435
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
OK, I could see that.
436
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:45,000
The way I've always seen it is I've never seen any any one movie like as that great.
437
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,000
There have been really good scenes like you can pick individual scenes from the series and go, that was really good shit right there.
438
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000
The movies themselves on a whole don't really hold up, in my opinion.
439
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:04,000
No, most of them. Most of them are exactly what you described. X2, I thought was good. First class, I thought was good.
440
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
All the other ones had cool moments, but they weren't good movies.
441
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:17,000
But those two in particular, X2 with William Stryker and like Wolverine actually having his rage scene, all that like.
442
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:24,000
No, that was like the first
time like nerd me got to see like nerd stuff in the theaters and I was like, OK.
443
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,000
So maybe OK, there's a lot of bias that's on that statement.
444
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:39,000
So never mind. He lights the candle, travels by candlelight and then bam right into the star and he keeps calling Claire Dane's mother, which.
445
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Right. What a great decision.
446
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,000
I mean, she's having a day for sure.
447
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Hit in the head by a rock, fall from the sky, then hit in the in the everything by a dude who's like, are you my mommy?
448
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000
I know what a what a series of events for her.
449
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,000
And then she goes off on him about the events that led up to her being hit by a bumbling moron.
450
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,000
And he straight up kidnaps an injured woman for Victoria without even thinking about it.
451
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Like it's weird that he doesn't think about it at all.
452
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,000
It's like, OK, this is a human person, look, human looking person. I'm talking to you.
453
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,000
I'm going to enslave you and gift you to somebody. And he's our good guy.
454
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Well, he does he does say he's just going to break.
455
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,000
He has a promise to keep. He was going to bring Victoria the star and he does stay kind of upfront.
456
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Look, I just want to show you to her so that she sees that I did it and that I kept my promise.
457
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Then I'll let you go. And he even goes like, I've got this candle that you can use to take yourself home.
458
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
And I'm not using it to take us back to town.
459
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000
The fact that he calls it like she's like, you have a Babylon candle.
460
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Yeah, of course, I have a bubbling candle.
461
00:36:50,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Dude, he is he is the perfect mix of just idiot, like charming, charming and disarming idiot.
462
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Plus, I think to a degree that may have been like one of the saving graces of why we didn't see the exposition when his dad told him the story.
463
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
And then he's like, oh, I've got here's the letter from your mom.
464
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
This is the flower from your story. Oh, this is the chain from your story.
465
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Because he seems to uncannily know how to work that chain really, really well.
466
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000
First try on everything. Yeah, right.
467
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,000
So the only way to explain that is to assume that that part of his dad's story must have been pretty elongated.
468
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
We just didn't see it. That's a good point.
469
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Seems to be a good point. Really know how to use that magic chain without much without much trouble.
470
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Which, by the way, what a fantastic magic chain.
471
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,000
All you got to do is keep cutting that thing and you have unlimited material.
472
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,000
I would have an entire suit of armor made out of that crap.
473
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
And it's obedient to is just like here, hold this and it holds it.
474
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Yeah, I would that that that little piece of material was wildly I could wildly underutilized.
475
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:06,000
You forget the star. Just give that to Victoria and be and be like, here, your husband's never going to get away with this.
476
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Dude, right. There you go. Yeah.
477
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Accidentally poisoning the bishop and that scene. Huge laugh.
478
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Strong faking his own death just to get a chuckle.
479
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:26,000
I know Mark Strong has been in everything. He is such a prolific actor.
480
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,000
But my God, I don't think I've ever seen him be like this.
481
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,000
There was there was a lot of good, mirthful, funny moments.
482
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:43,000
But my one just full on belly laugh moment was when he's pointing at his brother going like, you thought you were going to be king.
483
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Like that was that was gold. But also Jason having it be Mark Strong and Jason Fleming, those two worked perfectly off of each other.
484
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Yeah, that was fantastic.
485
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Now that Pfeiffer is pretty again, she wants the home to look good to get everything ready.
486
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000
Make it nice. I wanted us to put the Queens that we are like. Right.
487
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Yeah, come on, Diva arguing. Oh, the star interest in arguing about when to sleep and.
488
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,000
But this is that scene I was talking about where he calls it a bubbling candle and she's like and she the way she looks at it,
489
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
she's like, oh, my God, what kind of idiot are you?
490
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Like, it's it's so good. It's so good.
491
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Jake Curran getting turned into a goat and then seeing that the magic takes a toll on Pfeiffer and it happens really quick and very succinctly.
492
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:47,000
And even though there was some exposition on it, none of it was needed.
493
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Right. Yeah, exactly. And it basically just kind of position also wasn't clunky.
494
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Right. Because we see the examples we hear like a momentary comment on it to confirm everything.
495
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
This is like, oh, this is known. This is
not a mystery as to what's happening to her. Everybody gets it.
496
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Yeah. And it raises the stakes for her character.
497
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,000
It kind of like it basically goes to show she's not just your basic run of the mill evil witch looking to do bad things.
498
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,000
No, she's got an actual desperation here because she's you know.
499
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000
This is like she's not living a great existence. She's in a dusty, dark old house, just her and her sisters.
500
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,000
They're all decrepit and can barely move. This is her one chance to get back to youth.
501
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:33,000
You know. OK. Dusty, dank old great hall.
502
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:41,000
I mean, come on. Say what you will about the decor, sir, but the architecture, give its respect.
503
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,000
I mean, come on, they lived in a frickin cathedral, man. I mean, that's a hmm.
504
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:52,000
I'll take some. I'll take some dank and dustiness if I can live in a frickin cathedral like that.
505
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,000
OK, all right. Unless your property. I know it's a cathedral. Property taxes would be low.
506
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Seven horses with. Oh, so here you go. Seven horses with Septimus, the seventh brother and Primus, the first brother,
507
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
goes it alone, perfectly matching their names.
508
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Their clothing had their number like the number of what son they were matched up.
509
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,000
And I thought it was great to have the first and the final brother going up against each other in this.
510
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,000
And all the in between. I thought that was really clever. I did enjoy that.
511
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Them walking through the windows background. Tell me you didn't think the same thing.
512
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Oh, no, I didn't. Oh, my God. I didn't notice it. That was exactly I was like that.
513
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000
That's that's the windows background. I thought the same thing as when we watched toys.
514
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:51,000
I'm like, that's the fucking Microsoft background. Wherever that field is, they love using that thing.
515
00:41:51,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Oh, here we go. Michelle Pfeiffer meets Ditchwater Sal and the whole heads or tails scene and then truth poisoning, the Dark Majesty.
516
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:11,000
And then we kind of see what she looked like in her prime or like when she's like got her like her magic like going.
517
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Tiny, tiny bit of world building that just kind of shows you what they may have looked like 100, 100 years ago or centuries ago or in like that.
518
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Never explained, never saw again. But Ditchwater Sal calling her your Dark Majesty that gave us our world building.
519
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Yeah, God, I love this movie because where we've talked about trusting your audience, you don't need to hammer us with these this information.
520
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Put it in the movie. And if we're curious about it, we'll watch it again. That's the thing is like if you catch it, it adds to the story.
521
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,000
If you don't catch it, you don't lose anything in the story. That is delicate. That's a delicate thing. Yes.
522
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,000
To be able to put something in your story that if it's missed, it doesn't affect the audience at all.
523
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
No, that is a tough balance to find. And I do understand that.
524
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:04,000
But treating your audience like they're frickin morons, that is always the way your film loses money.
525
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Time after time after time after time after time after time.
526
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:14,000
There is almost no example of treating your audience like morons and it winning.
527
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Like it's crazy that they keep doing that. But whatever.
528
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,000
The classic. Oh, oh, oh, OK.
529
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Well, actually, first this casting a spell on Ditchwater Sal.
530
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:34,000
You shall not see nor touch nor smell nor hear or interact with the star in any way, even if it's right in front of you.
531
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Perfectly setting up an incredible scene later on that just melts my heart every time I see this.
532
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Now for my true hatred.
533
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:55,000
And I'm not even kidding here, man. I hate this to a degree that I don't know how to properly say.
534
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000
He keeps calling her Yvonne when her name is Yvonne.
535
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:08,000
You can't get that misconception unless you're looking at the name on paper.
536
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:16,000
If somebody tells you their name, you have the actor in the play, in the movie, in whatever it is,
537
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:26,000
needs to mispronounce it based off of how they heard it, not how they would miss like mispronounce it based off of reading it.
538
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Movies and plays and TV shows make that mistake a million times over and not again, not one time has it ever fucking made sense.
539
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,000
That is one of the dumbest things that like that like that entertainment does.
540
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,000
And how has anybody ever rectified that?
541
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:56,000
I don't know. Is it just me? Does that bother you too? Not really. No, but I get where you're coming from.
542
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:06,000
I would see how it would bother you for sure. Yes. I mean, I was just I literally like an audiobook that I was listening to not too long ago.
543
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:15,000
And this is
one of those like I don't know how this happens, but the the narrator mispronounced the word idyllic like he was talking about.
544
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Like a character was like contemplating his life and he was like, has my life been so idyllic that I can't you know, I can't contemplate these hardships.
545
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000
The narrator said idyllic.
546
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Like it literally took a second like has my life been so idyllic? And I'm like, what?
547
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Did he mean idyllic? Like and that's kind of like that. That's you know, that bothered me.
548
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Like I think I missed the whole next chapter of the book because I'm sitting here going like how can someone go their whole life?
549
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Not not ever hearing that word, only seeing it like who where where was the quality control?
550
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Who was his editor? Was there a director in the room?
551
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Well, come on, you know, I mean, you know how we do this. There isn't.
552
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,000
I am like I am my own editor for my audio work and stuff like that.
553
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,000
There are apps that some of the other audiobook narrators that I work with in my classes and stuff like that.
554
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:16,000
They have apps that you run your chapter through and like the app will identify the words that you have mispronounced.
555
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,000
So now they have that. They didn't have that that long ago when I was because I was doing audiobooks a few years ago.
556
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,000
We didn't have that. We would run up to words of writing, especially when I was doing like metaphysics manuals.
557
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,000
And things like that. I was like I auditioned for one.
558
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,000
It was a three page audition about a metaphysics manual.
559
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:41,000
And I spent so much time Googling pronunciation of words that I just I didn't even submit the audition.
560
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Yeah, even if I got this, I feel you there. I wouldn't want to do this.
561
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Like this is insane.
562
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Or was I? Oh, the confrontation with the soothsayer.
563
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:08,000
I thought that was really good. I thought the the the confrontation with him as he's asking the questions and then Mark Strong turns into a more jovial type of character for a moment.
564
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,000
What's my favorite color? Like all of this. Have I ever spared anyone's life?
565
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Like, like, he's just he's so jovial about it and having fun with it.
566
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,000
And then, yeah, he kills the guy and then they move on.
567
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Right. The transition from those those charms or whatever they call them,
like from him to Michelle Pfeiffer over to right.
568
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:39,000
Tristan and Danes. The transitions there, I thought were absolutely fantastic.
569
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:44,000
It was it was almost like a musical without the musical number.
570
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:55,000
The way there was like it was it was like a one of those marathon type songs where where everyone's going like we're off to, you know, we're, you know, we're going to the Capitol.
571
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,000
And you've got like this storyline. We're going to kill the king in this storyline. We're going to save the king in this storyline.
572
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:08,000
I'm going to marry the princess. And they're all kind of like they eventually sing in tandem with each other, even though there are three separate storylines in different places.
573
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:18,000
It was like that, but no song. It was just it was a sort of weird, like mental, like emotional unification on this journey.
574
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:26,000
And it was. Yeah, it works so well.
575
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Rescue Unicorn activate.
576
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:38,000
That that came out of nowhere and I'm like, whatever, we're in Star Wars.
577
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000
They didn't invite that unicorn to the wedding.
578
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,000
It died.
579
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. OK, yeah. Yeah, we see like this is the kind of movie where you could just randomly have a unicorn pop in.
580
00:48:51,000 --> 00:49:03,000
And there are no questions because of what the movie has done to this point. Any other I swear to God, any other movie, if this would have happened, I would just be ripping it apart somehow.
581
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Especially it worked. They. Yeah, well, especially they even though it was not technically a character like that was one of the Claire Danes did really well giving this horse character because when it first shows up, you know, and unlocks the chain and saves her because it's a unicorn.
582
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
It can fucking do anything. Yeah.
583
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,000
And as you know, she's riding through the forest to eventually go to this in.
584
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,000
He is.
585
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:41,000
She's expositing everything to this horse. He just sitting there going like, and then this asshole tied me up to this and that and the horse is just trotting along going like, I know, lady, I know, I'm humans. Right.
586
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Yeah. Like, so this with with no with no need to horse act, Claire Danes just made this horse a character by just being a character to it.
587
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:02,000
But I will say when the horse saves Tristan's life and then points at the poison, I like I was like, it was making me laugh so hard.
588
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:15,000
I'm like, God, you did such a good job with that horse. Good job. Good horse. Turning the goat into a goat or into a man creating an inn and dude, why did I do the note like this?
589
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Bernard Bernard gets at the other side.
590
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Like she took she turns Bernard into a goat so she can add two goats pulling her cart. And then when she gets to this, this, you know, this strap she's setting, he turns the goat into a man to be her husband.
591
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:40,000
She turns Bernard back into a man thinks for a second and then turns Bernard into a woman and Bernard does not seem to mind at all.
592
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
No, he's very excited.
593
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Whoa.
594
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:58,000
The expo dump from the stars while Tristan is sleeping and you get Elliot Sumner as Yvain's sister, which she is really kicking some stuff up.
595
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Now, if you take a look at her IMDB, she's been really like her credits are getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
596
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:16,000
So this like I think this is going to be one of those like, hey, look what Elliot Sumner did when she first was coming out like and way to hit the ground running Sumner.
597
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,000
Bouncing off. Oh, God.
598
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Okay, so when Tristan wakes up from the dream and he starts sprinting towards that and the music is epic and you think like, oh, God, this music, this scene, this editing, something amazing is about to happen.
599
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000
Nope.
600
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Just bounces off the carriage and the music dies down. I'm like, oh, movie.
601
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Me again. I've seen this 20 freaking times and you got me again.
602
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000
I just so much fun and I like that. Primas comes up.
603
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,000
He's like, the thing was when Primas comes up and he puts the blade to Tristan's chest, you're not looking at comedy.
604
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:01,000
You're not looking at joy. Jason Fleming put on the actual performance to be a man about to kill.
605
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,000
And then he changes his mind right when Tristan is like, you know, whoa, I don't know what I got.
606
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,000
And he sees that Tristan is telling the truth, I think.
607
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000
But the thing was something. Yeah. Yeah. That walk up.
608
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:20,000
Fleming was putting on a performance for a different movie. And that is what I really liked about it is because you saw the dark.
609
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
You saw the heavy tone. You saw everything about it.
610
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:31,000
And then you saw them put it away like so it gave you that that feeling of like that eerie feeling that something was about to happen.
611
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:39,000
But you were still living in the joy of a film that is perfectly able to cross
over from children to adults.
612
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,000
And I don't think anybody's going to have a bad time. No, no, you're right.
613
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:51,000
I bet is. Yeah. But the line. Maybe Providence sent you to or sent me to you the same as it sent you to me.
614
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000
His character pulls off some good lines when he needs to.
615
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Like he says the right thing basically every time that he needs to. And I really appreciated that about his character because he was never lying.
616
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
He never lied to say that say something. He was just being honest.
617
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Every step along the way. Same thing as in like Knives Out. You've seen Knives Out, right? Yes.
618
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:20,000
OK. And a D'Armes character like you won by being a good person.
619
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,000
That is like the same thing that Tristan that happened to Tristan in this. He just won by being a good person.
620
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Yeah. Love that.
621
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:44,000
When Yvain shows up to the inn and then Pfeiffer invites her in and all that and then she slams the door on the unicorn and they give those like quick staring daggers like right through the door window.
622
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:50,000
She. I want I keep wanting to say this actor crushed this. This actor crushed this.
623
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Every single actor in this movie crushed every single thing they did this whole movie.
624
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,000
It is kind of insane. The odds of that happening. That ratio does not. It doesn't. It doesn't.
625
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:15,000
There's always some kind of like somebody calling it in someone being like I know this is a small part. You know, like Peter O'Toole. He that that was a cameo to beat all cameo roles.
626
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,000
He didn't have to stand up. He had so few lines. He probably probably had cue cards for him.
627
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,000
I mean, it's the kind of thing where it's like you've got a low budget film and you need your one name actor.
628
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,000
What do you do? You cast him in a role where he doesn't have to do anything but be the name.
629
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:36,000
That was the role that they gave Peter O'Toole, but he did not treat it that way in a film full of a listers.
630
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Right. All of a list.
631
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Woman, Bernard Bernard is absolutely creeping.
632
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Oh, my God. Like when he's like, oh, yeah, let's get you out.
633
00:54:49,000 --> 00:55:03,000
And he puts his like he puts he puts her arms around her shoulders and like just so creepy feeling. And oh, man, the magic in the healing bath.
634
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Fantastic. I love that. You've never you've never a massage like I don't know why that cracks me up.
635
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:19,000
I still like it doesn't really make sense to me why that line would get such a big laugh out of me, but it does.
636
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Well, it's it's it's well, it's because we have this weird dynamic going on where we found out that something about this magic of stealing a star's heart and using it for magical powers, whatever it is they want to do.
637
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:40,000
There's conditions like having them, you know, having them be comfortable and happy and carefree helps.
638
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000
And so that's what Michelle Fiverr is doing. She's trying to pamper Claire Danes. Yes.
639
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:54,000
She's okay. So what you're saying, though, so the more potent the star, like the more potent the happiness, the more powerful the star is, the star's heart is.
640
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,000
But at the end of the movie, like.
641
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,000
What is a broken heart of a star is better than no heart at all.
642
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,000
It can still do something, but if it's shining when it's cut out, it is way more powerful.
643
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
So right now, I'm right there with you.
644
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000
OK, so yeah, she's trying to butter her up.
645
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:18,000
She's and and so it's like it's weird this sort of like after we've seen her be so evil this whole time.
646
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Now she's like sitting there going like you've never had him.
647
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
You must die. I will work those kinks out.
648
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Get in the bath. I am. I am here for you, my lady.
649
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:34,000
This is going to be one because it's like it's a yeah, it's funny because it does open.
650
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,000
It opens a huge plot hole at the end of the film, though.
651
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,000
So there actually is there's there's only one moment of this film that I actually think isn't perfect.
652
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000
And it actually it is kind of a huge plot hole.
653
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,000
And I'm wondering if you can help fill it for me.
654
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Well, we'll get there. OK.
655
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Saved from a knife under the bed by a knock at the door and Primus and Tristan arrive.
656
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:06,000
And then, yeah, Primus just like walks in the like walks into the place, sees there's a bath and like, oh,
657
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,000
and just dumps jumps into somebody else's dirty bath water.
658
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,000
I'm like, oh, oh, you don't know.
659
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,000
You don't know who was in there.
660
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,000
That's like that scene from Galaxy Quest. Is there air?
661
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,000
You don't know. You don't know who is.
662
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
Is there crabs? You don't know.
663
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Like, ah, Galaxy Quest, and I want to see that again now.
664
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Oh, yeah, it was mentioned to be like, yeah, now there is a movie.
665
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
There is a movie.
666
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:47,000
All the dead brothers see the necklace when you have a comes out and they're like, dude, dude, dude.
667
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,000
I thought that was great. Like you talk about the peanut gallery.
668
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,000
You're absolutely right. These brothers were brick and perfect.
669
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Yep. By for going after the knife while Primus is bragging in the background about the size,
670
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,000
the some say is the biggest in all the land.
671
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Talking about his dad's carriage and all this is like, dude, oh my God, you were playing this rich boy bragging entitled us.
672
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Oh, well, way to just rush it.
673
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Fleming and Claire Danes is like, yeah, good for you, buddy.
674
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
I'm going to I'm going to go now. And he's like, no, but you understand it's a great carriage.
675
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Love it. But then they pass off the water.
676
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:36,000
So it's a Primus passes off to the wine because until his brother is dead, he won't drink anything but his own wine, passes it off to Tristan.
677
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,000
And then when Bernard comes, I was like, thanks.
678
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,000
What's your name to the girl?
679
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Bernard.
680
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Which I love how Tristan is just like, that was weird.
681
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Oh, well, yeah, he's in Stormhold now. He doesn't know.
682
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Like, yeah, no, like that was so much fun.
683
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000
The unicorn busting the poison out of him and then pointing at him.
684
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:10,000
And the only reason we actually were able to get a slit throat in this is, I think, because they changed the color of the blood to green.
685
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,000
Blue. It was blue.
686
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,000
OK, thin blue looked green to me. Whatever.
687
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:27,000
OK, well, see that I think they were going for the actual like, again, because that was a you know, that was a nickname for the royalty was the Blue Bloods.
688
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:35,000
Oh, because there was apparently for one specific royal family, I can't remember which one,
689
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:49,000
because of the many generations of inbreeding in that specific royal family, they had a pretty severe hemoglobin problem that made their blood actual blue because they because they weren't actually able to absorb any oxygen into their blood.
690
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000
OK, that's crazy. I hope you're not just
making that up. I hope that's crazy.
691
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,000
I'm OK. I'm not making it up. I cannot verify my sources on that, though.
692
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Well, the benefit of not being live. The term blue blood originates from the Spanish phrase Sangre Azul.
693
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:17,000
It was used to describe the old aristocratic families of Castile, Spain, who claimed to have pure noble bloodlines and had never intermarried with Moors, Jews or other races.
694
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:26,000
The blueness of their veins, which was more visible due to their fair complexions, led to the term blue blood to denote nobility and high social status.
695
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:34,000
Over time, the term was adopted into other languages and cultures to refer to people of noble birth or high social standing.
696
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Because these motherfuckers had never seen the sun so you could literally see their veins.
697
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:46,000
That's pretty much OK. That I can buy that a little bit.
698
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,000
I mean, I can also buy the story you said, but I can I could believe that could happen.
699
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,000
But yeah, but I'm still right about I'm still right about blue blood.
700
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:04,000
You are. You are. You are. That was that was correct, which I thought that was a cop term.
701
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,000
So because of that, because of the movie, the TV show Blue Bloods.
702
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Right. That one I think was adopted later in like the 80s or 90s where cops.
703
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,000
No, I can easily see that so many so many generations of cop in my family.
704
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:28,000
You practically bleed blue. I think it's OK. All right. I can see that.
705
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:36,000
So, yes, we got Preeness's slit throat and now he's he's a naked ghost.
706
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,000
And I like I like that. Really, they try not to talk about it.
707
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,000
None of them are looking. He's the only one that doesn't have a fucked up face.
708
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,000
So what are they going to say? Somewhat true.
709
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,000
I don't know. Mark Healy got poisoned, so he was pretty much exactly normal.
710
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,000
But the way that he shows up naked and then Mark Healy is like.
711
01:01:53,000 --> 01:02:04,000
I can see how he's the comedian of those brothers, because, yeah, I love that.
712
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Trapped in the flames and fight dude, Pfeiffer kicks this performance up like her dialogue.
713
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Very simple dialogue, all that. But that's where like she stopped acting and really kicked in the thespian.
714
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Like that's where like the stage performance started coming in and like, oh, goosebumps and everything.
715
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:33,000
And this
really showcased the dedication and what Tristan was willing to put himself through.
716
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:42,000
He put the babbling or the Babylon candle in his hand, but his whole hand in the flames to get them out of the situation.
717
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:50,000
And unfortunately, this is where we say goodbye to the unicorn because, you know, got got by Pfeiffer.
718
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:59,000
Right. They wind up stuck in the clouds because he told Yvain to think of home and like, and this whole.
719
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,000
What? You stupid cow. Why would you think of?
720
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:12,000
You said, think of this standing on a cloud in the middle of a lightning storm yelling at each other over.
721
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:17,000
Why didn't you think of my home? Why would I think of your home? You said, think of home.
722
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,000
Outstanding. I really did love this.
723
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,000
And no one's no one's talking in this entire fight.
724
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,000
Neither one of them is going, holy shit, we're standing on a cloud.
725
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,000
No, that was like, no, neither of them seem to care.
726
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:35,000
They were perfectly standing on a cloud and just this. This is a this is a situation.
727
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,000
The middle ground to meet Captain Shakespeare harvesting lightning.
728
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,000
Didn't she fucking Captain Shakespeare? My God.
729
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:50,000
What a character. What an absolutely fantastic character.
730
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,000
Yeah. No, no way around it.
731
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:59,000
Just oh my God. I like them. They trapped them thinking they're lightning marshals.
732
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,000
And I like that. Just one mention. Lightning marshals.
733
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,000
And that gives us an entire aspect of the world building we never see.
734
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:11,000
We never hear about again, but it gives us more information on the pirates.
735
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,000
Right. And then it doesn't even like it doesn't matter at that point.
736
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,000
It's just we're establishing that these are not, you know, the most honest of men, you know, and they're.
737
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,000
And this is a suspicious situation like we don't need to know what the marshal is.
738
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,000
We just know that this that this is not a good situation.
739
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,000
Oh, yeah. That's it. The bonding in the brig.
740
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000
And this is what I was talking about earlier.
741
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:41,000
She affirms the difference between shop boys and boys who just happen to work at shops for the time being.
742
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:49,000
And the way that that reflects on Tristan's face as he hears his own words said back to him.
743
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,000
But in an affirming way. That's the difference.
744
01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:07,000
I really, really love. Oh, Mark Strong prematurely celebrates when he finds Primus naked in a bathtub just in the middle of the field and of nowhere.
745
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Because what's great is that like the whole house was a trap.
746
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:18,000
The witch set was one big illusion. And so when she's gone, everything's gone except for the dead body in the bathtub.
747
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,000
Just sitting there in the middle of nowhere and his brothers look at that going great.
748
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,000
I love it. I'm king. And everybody kneels.
749
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,000
And then I like the ghost primus is like, yeah, forgetting something.
750
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:40,000
And yeah, no, you're right, dude. The ghosts in this played such a fantastic part about this.
751
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:46,000
And then Billy, he finds Billy and Billy informs on the witch and the star and Strong finds out.
752
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,000
That was Bernard. It was Bernard. Billy's dead. Billy got.
753
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Oh, Billy was the Billy was the actual goat. Sorry, sir. You're right. You're right. Right.
754
01:05:53,000 --> 01:06:06,000
Bernard. Bernard's back to normal. Yes. Back to normal and informs on the witch and the star and Strong's response that the this idiot's coming with us.
755
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,000
What a line. Oh, my God.
756
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:17,000
Bifers going bald and speaking of we mentioned that I mentioned this before, but Claire Dane's having a bad day.
757
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:24,000
Let's spare a thought for Bernard. Like that poor motherfucker asked for none of this.
758
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,000
He was just minding his own business on his little goat farm.
759
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:33,000
And now he's getting dragged along by all these psychos. That is true.
760
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Like in another movie, Bernard would be the hero where the adventure like happened upon him instead of interested.
761
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,000
But this is Tristan being like the the warrior's journey, the adventure.
762
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:53,000
What would you what would you call this particular? I mean, it's not quite a warrior's journey, but he becomes one.
763
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:59,000
So it kind of is kind of. Yeah, a little bit. It's a fish out of water. It's a fish out of water for sure.
764
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Very fish out of water for sure. Yes. Yeah. Very fish out of water, although not entirely.
765
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,000
Like I said, he does seem to get used to using the magic chain really fast. That's what he was.
766
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:17,000
That's it. It makes me wonder if he has blue blood because we never saw we never actually saw him bleed, I don't think.
767
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,000
No, that's true. This
is a this is a fairy tale.
768
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,000
So it comes down to this is quite the hero's journey or a warrior's journey.
769
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Every fairy tale is still in big part a warrior like a warrior's journey, a call to adventure.
770
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,000
I mean, they every fairy tale still kind of fits into one of the sub genres.
771
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:44,000
I suppose so, but this is a little bit closer to like Alice in Wonderland than anything else, where he's literally just kind of stumbling into everything.
772
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
OK, granted, he gets through it better than most.
773
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:55,000
He doesn't stumble out of it like he looks in the situations and has to work his way out as opposed to sometimes it's luck in luck out.
774
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
There is true.
775
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:03,000
By going bald and then freaking out about it like, where's the star and like rubbing the ring and all this.
776
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:10,000
But I will say my biggest laugh from Piper is when she's like trying to do her like beauty marks and all this.
777
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,000
And then both of her boobs just sag at the same time.
778
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:22,000
That got a scream laugh from me and it always have as I don't know if it will ever not.
779
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,000
But this is what I was talking about earlier with the tell me about Victoria.
780
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:32,000
He can't. She's such a shallow person that beyond saying she's pretty, there's nothing to talk about.
781
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,000
And.
782
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,000
Damn.
783
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:47,000
But like that, you can't buy love. And then the question, what's she doing to prove her love for you?
784
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Realistically, there are so many great less life lessons in this film.
785
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Yeah. And they just pop out through the dialers.
786
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,000
And that one is one of those things that even like I'm seeing, like.
787
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:13,000
People are still talking about to this day is that whole sort of like one sided expectation, one sided given, you know, giving that that especially, you know,
788
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:24,000
especially some of the young folks complaining about dating these days, you know, you know, there's a lot of the whole like, you know, why, why would I make all this effort to date when nothing it's never reciprocated kind of thing.
789
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,000
Like we're seeing that that mentality become kind of more.
790
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,000
What's your answer?
791
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,000
My answer for that. Yeah.
792
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,000
I mean, for me personally, it was always just sort of a time limit kind of thing.
793
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:50,000
Like I was willing to I was willing to, you know, put forth the effort and do that whole sort of like, you know, I will I will be the old fashioned prove myself, you know, buy dinner, open doors, that whole sort of thing.
794
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:59,000
But then like usually around about like third or fourth date, if I'm not starting to see some of that come back, then I'm like, OK, this is going nowhere and I'm out.
795
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:05,000
I think that's reasonable. My kind of take home position on that.
796
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Always be the gentleman. Always do this. Always do. Always, always, always, always.
797
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:18,000
The choosy over who you give that to. You don't just give it to anybody because not everybody deserves it.
798
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
No, it's true. That's the thing.
799
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:29,000
But I think there's nothing wrong with doing all of these behaviors, all of these things, doing everything for your husband, your wife, X, Y, Z.
800
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,000
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
801
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:43,000
If those are the things that you want to do for somebody, but it is very important that you find somebody that recharges you in whatever way you need.
802
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,000
It doesn't have to be the traditional stereotypical, any of that stuff.
803
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:56,000
You like if you got one person who literally does everything and the other person massages their feet once a week and that's all they need.
804
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,000
That is a balanced relationship. It is just about finding the balance.
805
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:05,000
But don't know, don't do that stuff for people who don't know.
806
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:14,000
Well, I think that's what people are finding difficult is that when it comes to these things, we are talking investment, even if it's not financial,
807
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,000
even if you're not the kind of person who's going to spend $100 a night on a date or something like that.
808
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:29,000
At the very, very bare minimum, even at the very beginning of a relationship, you are investing time and you have to invest emotionally.
809
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:35,000
Because if you're not going to at least cry to like this person, then it's going to fail from the start to begin with.
810
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,000
You have to invest emotionally in this as well.
811
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:46,000
And all too often people find out that that investment has dead ends half the time.
812
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,000
Minimum half the people you're going to go out with.
813
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,000
You're going to find out we're not worth your emotional investment.
814
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
And that's the investment that hurts the most.
815
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,000
And I think that's how that's what's getting people shy.
816
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,000
Minimum.
817
01:11:59,000 -->
01:12:03,000
Wow. I know. I'm about to say, man, I'm looking at 98%, 99%.
818
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:11,000
I mean, realistically, if you are the Marion type, it usually turns out to just be one.
819
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,000
No, it's very true.
820
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:19,000
But yeah, that's the thing is like that's losing that on that investment is what hurts more than the money or the time.
821
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,000
And yeah, absolutely.
822
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,000
Yeah.
823
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,000
And so after that, I'm not talking about purely the money investment.
824
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000
I'm not talking about purely the money aspect.
825
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,000
I'm more talking kind of like access and stuff.
826
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,000
And I get that. Yeah.
827
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,000
But that's what I think is that's what's difficult for some folks is parsing that out.
828
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:47,000
It's like if we're going to invest in like that whole like love language thing, it's like if you are going to if you're if you do invest in someone emotionally,
829
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,000
that means you're going to be doing the whole acts of service thing or whatever your style is.
830
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,000
Fair enough. And yeah.
831
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,000
And that's that is, you know, yeah.
832
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:02,000
After you know, if you get two or three in a row of folks that don't reciprocate at all, you start getting shy about it.
833
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:07,000
You start going. Why can't I know ahead of time if this person's worth investing in?
834
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Oh, that would be a neat trick, wouldn't it be? Yeah, exactly.
835
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:18,000
Yeah. And so that's where you get a lot of folks just bowing out of the whole dating game because they're just not willing to make that investment anymore because they've lost it too many times in a row.
836
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:24,000
OK, I can see that. That's sad. I'm going back to the movie.
837
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,000
OK. The married man just brushed that right off.
838
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Exactly. I'm a married man. Why should I be the one to talk about this conversation?
839
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,000
That's like saying like that's like the that's like the rich guy telling like people who don't have money to save money.
840
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:49,000
It's like I'm not I shouldn't be part of this conversation. Like, what do I have to contribute? Well, I had worked for me.
841
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Ain't no like there's not a lot of people out there that are like me. Right. Yeah. No. OK. Probably.
842
01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:01,000
There are. Yeah, I'm not exactly a unique person, but still.
843
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:07,000
The De Niro and they're also all married, too. They don't need dating advice either. There you go.
844
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:16,000
De Niro interrogation. He is properly intimidating while also being comedic. De Niro.
845
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,000
Mm hmm. I mean, yeah, flat out.
846
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,000
But can you this character? Can you imagine how many people were fighting over this?
847
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:30,000
I mean, I do like a character like Captain Shakespeare with the multitudes and the layers and the performance opportunity.
848
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Like, do you think that maybe like before they started filming, like there was some sort of fistfight between De Niro and O'Toole over who got to play who?
849
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:43,000
I don't know, but I can't imagine anybody. See, here's the thing.
850
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,000
I know that there are other actors out there that could have done a good job.
851
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Nobody would have been Robert De Niro doing it.
852
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:59,000
And that's why it was amazing because it was Robert De Niro. Yes. Yes, it was.
853
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:17,000
And I can't think of another movie, another performance where Robert De Niro gave even a quarter of that level of I don't give a fuck to go all the way into the commitment without it being like a hardcore like like taxi driver.
854
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:22,000
He committed all the way for taxi driver, but that was not like this.
855
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:29,000
This was a way different level of commitment. And the fact that he did it without blushing red the entire time.
856
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:35,000
I couldn't do that. I'd be doing that in front of a crew of people. My face would be beat red. I'd be sweating.
857
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:42,000
I would how he did Robert De Niro. Let me explain what he did.
858
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,000
De Niro goes soft and then oh, sorry.
859
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:53,000
So he takes your vein to his cabin and he threatens everybody. All right. Anybody else? You're going to get the same treatment.
860
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:59,000
They're like, you mean you're gonna throw you off the side of the other guy.
861
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,000
Yeah, yeah. No, I'm going to treat you like the other guy that I just threw over.
862
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,000
I'm not going to treat you like the woman I'm supposedly about to make love to.
863
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:21,000
But then De Niro goes soft and then choose the scenery to bits. It's makeover time. Switching the narrative on on its head by our world being the one that folktales are built on.
864
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:28,000
I loved how that went because if you think about that, this is a world that they don't have electricity and all that stuff.
865
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:38,000
So if you're thinking about Mary old London and all of those things that are happening at that time, those would be like folktales to people who are still living in the Middle Ages, essentially.
866
01:16:38,000 -->
01:16:45,000
Like, I love that concept. That was awesome.
867
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:53,000
Cutting Tristan's hair. Oh, wouldn't that be nice?
868
01:16:53,000 --> 01:17:04,000
That was kind of brilliant. Yeah, it just goes to show like De Niro's character has gotten very good at the styling thing because he just like it's not even like, oh, this is a magic brush.
869
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:10,000
No, he's just like, let's cut your hair. And then all of a sudden he's got longer hair. And even Tristan's just like, the fuck just happened.
870
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:16,000
I know. But he doesn't say anything. He's like.
871
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:27,000
The amount of things this movie did and then never pulled attention to beyond just a look or something like that. Loved it. Absolutely. Fantastic.
872
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:32,000
Ricky Gervais as Freddie or Ferdy.
873
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Yeah, like out of nowhere with that.
874
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:51,000
This cast. Oh, my God. There were there were a lot of serious actors playing comedy in this and to have just a true blue comedian like Ricky Gervais go up out of nowhere was weirdly jarring.
875
01:17:51,000 --> 01:18:02,000
And I feel like like being him go toe to toe with Robert De Niro in a comedy scene was it was like something out of Twilight Zone.
876
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:07,000
But it worked so well. De Niro playing the straight man like that.
877
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,000
Yeah. I mean, that is where De Niro's comedy gold really does come in.
878
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,000
He is a perfect straight man for comedy.
879
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:23,000
No, that is true. Yes. Just dynamite. So but to watch Ricky Gervais be the one that plays off him.
880
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:31,000
That was great. I like that. It's like, huh, look, who's having a laugh? You are.
881
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Ricky Gervais. He absolutely killed this decent amount of improv in this, obviously.
882
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,000
And right. Oh, those those there. There was a lot of Ricky Gervais's own lines in that.
883
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,000
Obviously, it was too like too much sideline off the cup comments stuff for all been scripted for him.
884
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:55,000
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Especially like the line when Pfeiffer comes in about the two headed dog, they can watch the front door in the back door at the same time.
885
01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:02,000
That specifically was tagged as improv from the so no like that. Absolutely.
886
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:08,000
De Niro learning about the star and realizing immediately that it's Yvain.
887
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:14,000
And I like this. Kristen shows up and can't handle the smoke or acting like a buccaneer.
888
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:20,000
Like everybody's waiting to be this guy and he's like, oh, oh, yeah.
889
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:29,000
And then I'm sorry, Dexter Fletcher, he crushed every single.
890
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:35,000
He was the first mate pirate that kept rolling his eyes every time. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
891
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Yeah. He you don't even like he does. He doesn't even have his character doesn't even have a name and he still was like a scene stealer every time.
892
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:52,000
And it's like the saying goes, man, there are no small parts, only small actors. And he like he's proof of that right there in this film.
893
01:19:52,000 --> 01:20:00,000
Like he barely has any lines. Character doesn't have a name. But you will remember him in this movie. Oh, absolutely.
894
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,000
The Skytrip montage of learning to fight and falling in love and the dancing and shining with Yvain and De Niro and then switching over because he says, like, I know what you are.
895
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:18,000
But then they switch over and Tristan steps in and she starts shining very brightly.
896
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:26,000
And I'm sorry, moments like this when you get like the big tough guys playing music and looking at the dancing with like a smile on their face.
897
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:35,000
Those moments crack me up to oblivion. Right. They they just they send me.
898
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:44,000
But Pfeiffer and Ricky and this was I'm about that bit of improv and he annoys her into being turned into a seagull kind of.
899
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:55,000
It was more of a cat noise he was making. No, it was it was a seagull because they transition the scene to him making the seagull noises to the seagulls flying as the ship is coming out of the sky.
900
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:01,000
And it was literally the exact same noise. So I guess I got I don't know for sure, but I do got some confidence on that one.
901
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:06,000
No, I think you're right. I didn't even catch that. I was just thinking he was meowing like a cat for some reason.
902
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,000
And so I didn't even catch the seagulls. That is that is what I thought at first, too, though.
903
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:16,000
It was only during the transition that I realized what she turned him in or what she turned his voice.
904
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Landing the skyship. I'm sorry.
905
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:25,000
The way the music works with the events in this film is so perfectly on point.
906
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:36,000
This is top tier, top tier. I I do think for the finale, I do think I know the movie I'm going to be fighting for most of the way.
907
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,000
I don't know how not to.
908
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:45,000
And I'm going to be so disappointed if I wind up fighting against this movie that is going to hurt.
909
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,000
I'm not going to enjoy that.
910
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:55,000
De Niro gifts Tristan some lightning and perspective.
911
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:02,000
And he slips up with the bar and the first mate runs and he's like, oh, yeah.
912
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:10,000
I I could watch.
913
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:17,000
I wish I had an entire anthology of movies starring Captain Shakespeare.
914
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:24,000
Yeah, right. It is it is one of the biggest cinema crimes that that is a one off role.
915
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:29,000
That is that is not that is that is wow.
916
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Oh, then Mark Strong shows up to interrogate Ricky Gervais.
917
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,000
And then he's trying so hard not to be.
918
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:47,000
And it just was right. He's trying to answer his questions.
919
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,000
Are you mocking me? Kill him. I like.
920
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:57,000
But the best part of that line after he stabs him and walks away, clean this thoroughly.
921
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:02,000
Why thoroughly? Why include that line? Just to be perfect.
922
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,000
I swear to God, that was fantastic. By the way.
923
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:12,000
OK, so when Tristan tackles her into that bush, because people are coming, nobody ever came by.
924
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:18,000
I seem to remember like hearing noises like they could like who they were wasn't didn't matter.
925
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:23,000
But it's like I thought I heard sounds of people walking while they're sitting there staring into each other's eyes.
926
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:31,000
I didn't feel like they were ever quiet enough to indicate that people were walking by or I didn't hear like the people walking by.
927
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:37,000
I don't know. I just to me, that felt like a I want to tackle the pretty girl moment.
928
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,000
Which we've all been there for sure. Yeah, sure.
929
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:47,000
But you know, we never we never get to Tristan got to.
930
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,000
That's how you got to have that scenario.
931
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:55,000
A woman literally has to fall out of the sky and you have to be escorting her after meeting Robert De Niro in drag.
932
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:03,000
That is that is that is those have to lead up before you can tackle the woman to the.
933
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:14,000
A straw. Oh, he ruins the moment by bringing up the fact that like immortality, she asked, would you be tempted for my heart and immortality?
934
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,000
And he's like, not if I was alone.
935
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:27,000
And then like you kind of get the realization, like realization wash over her face like she's never realized that she's been alone.
936
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Which is kind of weird because she's centuries old.
937
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,000
Like, yeah, have you never thought about it?
938
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Like, I thought that was a little bit of a weird moment.
939
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,000
But at the same time, maybe stars aren't alone.
940
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:46,000
That's the thing is
like, I don't know if it's really like how alone I mean, she doesn't talk about any of the other stars.
941
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,000
But the other stars talk to him about her.
942
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,000
We saw that. Yeah. And the dream.
943
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,000
Exposition. Yeah. Right.
944
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,000
They gave him a dream that said, look, our sister's in danger.
945
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,000
Go go save her.
946
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,000
You know, so that's the just that there is some sort of community among the stars.
947
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:06,000
But at the same time, it does seem like their whole thing from her is that they all just kind of hang out up in the sky and watch everybody down there.
948
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:13,000
And so and I guess kind of it's all like if you don't know any different, you know, thousands of years old or not.
949
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:19,000
If that's always been your existence and you wouldn't even know what you were missing until you got to where she is now.
950
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,000
That's a really good point.
951
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Yeah, I could see that.
952
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:29,000
The Mark Strong's men versus De Niro's crew.
953
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,000
Dude, that was awesome.
954
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,000
Yes, it was best, best, best fight.
955
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,000
That was the best second best fight of the movie.
956
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,000
OK, yes, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
957
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:49,000
Hands down, when we get into that fight scene, I am going to just be drooling over the choreography.
958
01:25:49,000 --> 01:26:00,000
But when he's like, like Fletcher, like leads them into some manners and they do that, they take their hats off and then the pirates just go all after, like go all buck in here and all this.
959
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:14,000
Hell yeah. Yeah, because they know because they know that if you salute this way to the guards, they're going to do their whole like formal military salute that ends with them taking their hats off and bowing so deeply that they're really easy to get and they get them.
960
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,000
Yes, perfect pirate scene, perfect pirate scene.
961
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:37,000
But during this, Robert De Niro is playing music and he is put on a dress. He has a boa wrapped around his neck. He's got a fan. He turned his very iconic mole into a heart by dabbing stuff around it and he is dancing around the captain's quarters.
962
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,000
He's having captain time.
963
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:58,000
It is the best captain time I have ever seen in my life. He was so much fun in that. I could not stop laughing. How Mark Strong, how many times Mark Strong must have done that scene and walked up before being able to do it without cracking?
964
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:11,000
That had to be the most fun day. Could you imagine being part of the crew on that day to get to watch Robert De Niro dancing in drag like that?
965
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:21,000
Yep. That is a life highlight moment. Moments like that are the reasons why people get into movies.
966
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:37,000
I love it. Oh my God, I loved it too much. But then yes, the pirate crew wins the battle against the soldiers. They bust in. Mark Strong runs away out the window into the water and...
967
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Captain Shakespeare is beside himself. Not even just that this manby-pamby prince boy got one over on him and made him look weak by having the knife over him and stuff like that. But when his men came in to rescue him, he's in a dress.
968
01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:08,000
And he's so crestfallen, he doesn't even try to hide it. He just sits down and is like, my life is over. And what does the crew say? You'll always be our captain, Captain.
969
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:21,000
Exactly. It was absolutely fantastic. But the way that one pirate comes in, his only line in the whole movie, we always knew you were a whoopsie.
970
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:36,000
The other thing is, yeah, they're funny about it. Yeah, calling him a whoopsie on that one. I get it. That is insulting. However, unbelievably hilarious delivery. I can't help it.
971
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:52,000
What was the meaning on that one? When the writers and everyone's looking around like, okay, we need to call him what is obviously a slur, but won't be actually offensive. What do we got? Let's hear some ideas, people.
972
01:28:52,000 --> 01:29:08,000
It wasn't until subtitles that I saw that he said whoopsie, I thought that he said boopsie. I thought it was maybe some kind of dancing term for divas or something like that or cabaret or something. I don't know.
973
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:17,000
But it wasn't until I watched it with subtitles this time, I was like, oh, that's worse, but still funny.
974
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:30,000
They walk and talk about what do stars do and this is the one moment and I'm glad that Matthew Vaughn included this in the movie where we only hear the book accurate name Tristran being said.
975
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:37,000
Because in the book, his name isn't Tristan, it's Tristran and they changed it because they figured people wouldn't be able to say that.
976
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:49,000
But while this is a really difficult name to say, yeah, it is a pretty tough one. Yeah. But when they're talking, she's like, what do stars do? I don't know. Do they annoy boys named Tristran?
977
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:58,000
Like that was the only time that they actually included it and I thought it was a really good like I thought that was just a really nice way to do a throw to the book.
978
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:03,000
Even though the entire movie is a throw to the book, but still.
979
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:08,000
I thought that was really I like that.
980
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,000
Trading a ride with
Ditchwater Sal, who can't see the star or that flower.
981
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,000
And this is what I was talking about earlier.
982
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:26,000
That flower that his mom gave his dad in exchange for a kiss plus that was to offer against protection from witches and magic and all this.
983
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:37,000
So Tristan was in a pretty good position this whole movie until now, then he gets turned into a mouse and which I love because we have we have seen before.
984
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:42,000
We have seen before we get another look at mom.
985
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:49,000
I'm forgetting mom's name. Kate McGowan. Yeah. What her character's name is. Una.
986
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:57,000
That's right. Yeah. So we've now seen from when Michelle Pfeiffer was visiting earlier, we saw that Una now is basically living as a bird.
987
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,000
She's only allowed to be human when she's serving Ditchwater Sal.
988
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,000
And then once she's done with her, she's back to being a bird.
989
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:12,000
So as soon as Tristan pulls the flower out and shows it to Ditchwater Sal and the bird starts going nuts, it's like mom knows.
990
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:18,000
Mom already knows. Like she like she knows exactly what's happening, you know, and but she's bird.
991
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:24,000
Which spare a thought for the mom being that close to her child, but not being able to do anything about it.
992
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:40,000
Right. Yeah. Oh, that's just it just kind of goes to show that it's like three scenes later, she's finally turned back into a person again to do some chores and she immediately jumps into action, not even blinking.
993
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:52,000
Kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. But I see where you're coming from. The it was a very nice confession of love from Danes and her talk over watching Love for Centuries.
994
01:31:52,000 --> 01:32:03,000
And yeah, I bet. Just go watch this movie. Just go watch this movie. It's so many unbelievably charming moments.
995
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:11,000
And the first mention that her heart belongs to him setting up the end of this movie. And.
996
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:23,000
I like this. This was a very, very, very smart inclusion because it is expo dump. It is treating the audience like they're idiots, except they never actually explain the results.
997
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:33,000
So Ditchwater Sal tells Tristan in mouse form when you've been like this for too long, it's going to be jarring. You're going to have like all this comes out of it.
998
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:40,000
He sees the woman he loves, but his brain is so jumbled that he accidentally says the name of the woman he loved last week.
999
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:52,000
Right. Yeah. Call it Victoria. Yeah. Yes. And the movie never it does explain why he might say something like that, but it doesn't actually explain that that's what happened.
1000
01:32:52,000 --> 01:33:00,000
And I love that. Again, trust your audience. I will love it every single time. That is a me thing. I have to admit.
1001
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:06,000
At the end, and he tells her he heard. Oh, my God. Her reaction is wonderful.
1002
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:11,000
Mm hmm. Yeah. So spectacularly.
1003
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:23,000
I mean, I mean, look, I know she's done serious stuff since then. Oh, dark 30 and stuff like that. Like we know she is a quality serious actors.
1004
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:32,000
Zero dark 30. Was it was that the one she was in or am I thinking of something else with the Navy SEALs? She was in like, I think so. Yeah.
1005
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:38,000
Zero dark 30. What did I say? Oh, dark 30. And I was wondering if there was like something else that I didn't know about.
1006
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:48,000
Sorry. That's why I was just making sure it was the Navy SEALs one. No big deal. Right. Yeah. But yeah, no, it's like she did like a really serious, you know, you know, drama, you know, things we know.
1007
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:56,000
She, you know, we know she's got the chops. But I mean, her wheelhouse is adorable. Like that's that's her thing.
1008
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:05,000
Like she does adorable like nobody does adorable. Like, you know, and I mean that with all due respect. Oh, absolutely. Like that's like you.
1009
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:14,000
There are a lot of examples of actors trying to be adorable and instead they kind of come across bratty and entitled sounding. Right.
1010
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:25,000
Even though Daines was kind of, I think, supposed to sound bratty and entitled or any of this never came across that way to me. No, yeah. Not a single time.
1011
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:38,000
He confesses what the captain had actually said, and it was that your true love is right in front of you. And the fact that he just tells her and he was right.
1012
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,000
Oh, that's some Casanova shit, buddy. That was smooth as eggs.
1013
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:52,000
He learned a lot on that pirate ship. He learned. He learned to sword fight. He learned to dance. He learned to work it.
1014
01:34:52,000 --> 01:35:03,000
There you go. I love and then they have like we find out that they went into a lovemaking scene through Mark Healy popping through the wall of the slaughtered prince.
1015
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,000
Fantastic to have six slaughtered princes hanging out on the balcony of the slaughtered prince.
1016
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,000
And he pops his head like, hey, guys, you got to come check this out. And they're like.
1017
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:27,000
Fantastic dynamite. I. Every minute of this, there was a moment that there was too much to talk about in this.
1018
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,000
I love this movie. Yeah.
1019
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:37,000
Waking up, cutting a piece of the star and leaving a message with the sleepy
innkeeper and he's off.
1020
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:46,000
For folks who haven't seen it, be a little more specific. He cuts off a lot of her hair, not like a pinky finger or something.
1021
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:53,000
It's still a piece of the star. But then, yeah. So, OK, yes, he cuts a piece of her hair.
1022
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:58,000
He doesn't take her foot or anything. Yeah. But then Dane wakes up.
1023
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:08,000
All shiny and whatnot, walking around the inn at wall shining, which they're supposed to keep this a secret, but this is not a secret at any point in this movie.
1024
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,000
No, she's literally glowing like everywhere she goes.
1025
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:17,000
There's just like this, you know, it's and the innkeeper apparently doesn't notice.
1026
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,000
He's he's just like, hey, I don't know.
1027
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,000
Morning sunshine, I guess. Right.
1028
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:28,000
The innkeeper, man, I see all kinds of shit glowing. This is a magical kingdom.
1029
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,000
I don't know what you drank last night.
1030
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:39,000
The innkeeper gives a warped version of the message and is almost exactly perfect.
1031
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:47,000
It's just if you don't think about it or if you think like that is the way he gave the message was kind of perfect for a misunderstanding.
1032
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,000
And I loved it. Right.
1033
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:55,000
Well, because most of it didn't even come off in the wording, he may have worded it exactly the way Tristan did for him.
1034
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:59,000
It was his tone of voice because he's this put upon a whole innkeeper.
1035
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:05,000
He puts it in the tone of voice that makes it sound more like a fuck you than it meant to be.
1036
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:10,000
Very, very good decision. But this is what you were talking about.
1037
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:15,000
So you vain is walking through the market, just all sad, not listening to anything.
1038
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:27,000
And Una, Tristan's mom, is like screaming at her to get her attention because Ditchwater Sal, they set up the cart, they set up the market and Ditchwater Sal went to go take a nap.
1039
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:36,000
And you vain just keeps going. So what does mom do? Slams the door shut on Ditchwater Sal and then steals the cart and hijacks the cart to go save the day.
1040
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:43,000
Outstanding. I loved that. I had fantastic time with that.
1041
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:51,000
Tristan showing up, no longer throwing pebbles at the window, but knocking on the front door like he respects himself.
1042
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:59,000
And then insulting Victoria so perfectly and dropping her on the ground.
1043
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:07,000
And then Superman shows up and just drops the lugs like, apparently you have a death wish.
1044
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:17,000
I loved it. Loved it. Because Superman shows up to fight, Daredevil pulls out a big sword and Superman just, ah, right.
1045
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:22,000
Right. Just perfect.
1046
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:28,000
And I love like, yes, because Tristan's like, I'm free. It's fine. It's fine.
1047
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:40,000
We don't need to do this. You win. Like, oh, way to just be absolutely humiliated and then crushed by an actual man.
1048
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,000
Yeah, that was how.
1049
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:52,000
And then that's where we and that's where we get the big important reveal when when Victoria opens the the handkerchief that's supposed to have block of hair in it.
1050
01:38:52,000 --> 01:39:03,000
And it's just a bunch of sparkly dust. And she's like, what am I supposed to do with this dust? And that's when Tristan has his oh shit moment and turns and sprints back to the wall.
1051
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Yep, because magic does not exist in our world. And if Yvain were to cross the wall, she would die.
1052
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:14,000
So he sprints back to that wall.
1053
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:22,000
And the anticipation in the editing misleads the timing very much like you think that it might actually be close or something like that.
1054
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:33,000
And I guess it is kind of close. But still, I mean, the guard is like 100 feet away from the wall because he's already walking away after everything has gone down.
1055
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:39,000
But the editing that did pull the trick on me. And I got to give it that.
1056
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:44,000
And everything kind of like kind of meets.
1057
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,000
Ditchwater comes out of the cart and sees her.
1058
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:54,000
My mom shows up at the hole in the wall just in time to stop her from crossing.
1059
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:59,000
Yeah. And goes like, you can't do it. You know, and they're about to get into it.
1060
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,000
But, you know, she's like, getting ready to say, like, I'm Tristan's mom.
1061
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:09,000
She's ready to do it. But then Ditchwater Sal busts out of the cart and is ready to kick some ass because she's just been taken for a ride.
1062
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:16,000
But then Pfeiffer shows up. And then the exact same thing that Ditchwater Sal said to her earlier in the film, heads or tails.
1063
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:21,000
And then she just takes Ditchwater Sal's head off, which nice.
1064
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:28,000
Right. With the added bit of comedy that Ditchwater Sal's body is running around headless for a couple of seconds before it finally goes away.
1065
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:32,000
You need the comedy. You need it. You need it for like this type of movie.
1066
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,000
It was perfect.
1067
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:43,000
Tristan shows up and the guard quits. Strong is
shortly behind and everybody is on their way to the Witch's Cathedral.
1068
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:50,000
And I love the guards whole bit too, where he's like, I've been guarding this wall for 80 years to keep dorks like you out.
1069
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:55,000
No one told me about the crazy shit that's coming from the other side.
1070
01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:02,000
That was good. Fantastic intro between uncle and nephew.
1071
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:03,000
Mm hmm.
1072
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:09,000
Like that was great. I like they charge in and the family is fully back together again.
1073
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:14,000
And Septimus just goes and tackles Uno without even thinking about it.
1074
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:18,000
It's like, ah, there's a person and just goes right after her.
1075
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:26,000
Realizes sister and then all the dead ghost. Ah, sister.
1076
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,000
You are so right, man. You are so right. The ghost.
1077
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:37,000
Like if nothing else in this movie was was good, the ghost would have made this movie.
1078
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,000
Yeah. Kind of amazing how powerful they were there.
1079
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:48,000
But then when Tristan almost attacks his mom and then she has that I'm your mother and like all of that.
1080
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:52,000
That it was tugging at the heartstrings. It very much was.
1081
01:41:52,000 --> 01:42:00,000
I'm not going to lie until she went, go be the man. I know you are. So you don't know nothing. You think.
1082
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:07,000
Well, you have hopes. Yeah, there's hopes in there, you know, and maybe, you know, there's there's also her dad.
1083
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:13,000
She's she's probably, you know, she's she's known him for a few hours as a mouse.
1084
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:18,000
That's it. She don't know nothing about it.
1085
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:26,000
Strong taking out that first witch by just chucking that huge sword at her.
1086
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,000
That was a heavier moment.
1087
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:34,000
But with her laughing it off, that's what tied it in to where the kids and the adults can watch this one.
1088
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:39,000
And that's the thing is like this this had a this handled like like you said, there's the blue blood.
1089
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:46,000
There was the comedy of the headless witch running around for a movie with such a high body count.
1090
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,000
It's surprisingly kid friendly. Yeah. Right.
1091
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:53,000
I think just oh, my God.
1092
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:57,000
But yes, and of course, the dead brothers applaud again.
1093
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,000
The voodoo doll drowning death.
1094
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,000
Wow. Incredibly well done.
1095
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,000
Yeah. The way he looked drowning.
1096
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:11,000
All of it. Everything was so good.
1097
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:19,000
Fun fact about this scene, the knife that she's sharpening to cut open your vein and take the star's heart.
1098
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:25,000
Matthew Vaughn had that glass knife made to go up against Magneto in the X-Men films,
1099
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:33,000
but they never actually found a reason to use it, so he wound up using it in this instead. And holy crap, it worked perfect.
1100
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:45,000
Nice. It matched the tone so well, but it did make me wonder what character was supposed to use that glass knife against Magneto in X-Men.
1101
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:51,000
But yeah, no, Matthew like Matthew Vaughn had that made for the X-Men like for whichever X-Men movies he was on.
1102
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:58,000
And dude, I'm so happy that he was able to keep that prop and put it in another movie.
1103
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:02,000
I never I don't even know if I would think about stuff like that. That is incredible.
1104
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,000
I love it. Love it. God damn.
1105
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:12,000
Now here is potentially my one and only plot hole of this otherwise perfect film.
1106
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,000
In my eyes, perfect film.
1107
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:23,000
When Tristan shows up and Yvain starts shining super brightly, why didn't they just kill her that very second?
1108
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,000
Good question. Good question.
1109
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:31,000
That is the only that like literally that is the only plot hole. That is the only thing that I can't figure out.
1110
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:38,000
If everything that they seem to that they seem to believe in that would that would have been the perfect moment to do it.
1111
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:44,000
And yeah, and putting it off would have just, you know, been asking for trouble, you know.
1112
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,000
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I think that basically I think we're just basically going to have to.
1113
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:52,000
Yeah, I don't think that there is an explanation for that other than because, you know, then the movie would have been over.
1114
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,000
So, you know, small plot hole, I guess is what it is.
1115
01:44:55,000 --> 01:45:01,000
Yeah. So the second which goes down with the animals getting their revenge.
1116
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:05,000
Yeah, yeah. That's a kid moment. That was good. That's a kid moment for sure.
1117
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,000
Protected by the flowers, so she gets creative.
1118
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:18,000
And when she pulls that like telepathy or telekinesis or whatever to get that large vase to come forward and hit Tristan,
1119
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:22,000
Charlie Cox, real world, the actor, got knocked out by that stunt.
1120
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:26,000
So when he goes down and hits the ground, not a stunt.
1121
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:33,000
He is like that is that is why that works so well and looked so
good because he actually got his ass knocked out by that vase.
1122
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:38,000
Wow. Nice. Nice. OK. Well, you know, I liked it.
1123
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,000
We all suffer for our art. You know, very true.
1124
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,000
I've talked I've mentioned this before.
1125
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:51,000
You know, the division between the world of making movies and workplace safety.
1126
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,000
OK. Yeah, it is a it is a very terse divide.
1127
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:00,000
But, you know, to say it's it hurts me to say it's necessary.
1128
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:07,000
As many hours as I want to spend talking about this, I only have one note for it.
1129
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:15,000
Tristan versus Dead Strong was such a cool scene with the way that it was choreographed and how it was pulled off.
1130
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:25,000
Oh, my God. The not not just how the stuntman that was playing Septimus,
1131
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:30,000
not not not just how well he was bending over to do all these.
1132
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:34,000
That was a good sword fight if he was standing up correctly.
1133
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,000
There was speed. There was precision.
1134
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,000
Everything about that was absolutely incredible.
1135
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:44,000
And the dude was doubled over from the hip backwards.
1136
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:51,000
That is that that that might be that might be my favorite sword fight scene.
1137
01:46:51,000 --> 01:47:03,000
Set aside from the technical sword fighting skills, just having it be like entertainment value and just like me just staring at the sword fight, wondering how are they doing this?
1138
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:10,000
Like this scene got me all the way in.
1139
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,000
The process of elimination with the ropes.
1140
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,000
Because that's how that would go for me.
1141
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:21,000
It doesn't matter whatever hero you are, you're never going to cut the right rope right the first time.
1142
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,000
I mean, I can't I highly doubt it would ever go that way.
1143
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:28,000
But eventually it gets it right. And then he tackles Michelle Pfeiffer.
1144
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:33,000
What a film debut getting to tackle Michelle Pfeiffer and Claire Danes.
1145
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:39,000
This was this for it was a career highlight for this guy before his career even started.
1146
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,000
He gets to tackle Michelle Pfeiffer. He tackles Claire Danes.
1147
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:47,000
He's going to be on a date with Sienna Miller.
1148
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:54,000
Yeah, he's playing a fun nephew with Robert De Niro and a bunch of pirates.
1149
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,000
Mark Strong, Jason Fleming, Kate McGowan.
1150
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:02,000
I mean, dude, he gets to intimidate Henry Cavill.
1151
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,000
Oh, man, I know.
1152
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:09,000
I mean, it's amazing. He stayed in the biz after this because he's like, what else am I going to do?
1153
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:14,000
Yeah, you got to be daredevil, be daredevil. That was the only place you can go after that.
1154
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:18,000
Was and is perfect. You outstanding.
1155
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:24,000
Pfeiffer, which with the knife fighting skills, just nice.
1156
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:30,000
Like that fight was great. And it looked like that was Michelle Pfeiffer doing it.
1157
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,000
Yeah, like the way they edited it, that looked like Michelle Pfeiffer,
1158
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:41,000
but she was also in witch makeup, so that probably was very easy to do the same makeup for a stunt double and make it that confusing.
1159
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:43,000
Don't care. They pulled it off.
1160
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:51,000
But also for someone as seasoned as Michelle Pfeiffer, I would not at all put it past her to do six months of training before filming.
1161
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,000
That's absolutely her style.
1162
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,000
I would absolutely agree. I can complete that.
1163
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,000
Like, oh my God, yeah.
1164
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:02,000
But then she toys with them by like tricking them into thinking that she's going to let them go,
1165
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:06,000
which was weird because she had them. Right.
1166
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,000
Yeah. So that is just the Incredibles.
1167
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:13,000
Like the monologuing thing kind of kicking in. Right.
1168
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:17,000
I like that. What do stars do? Shine.
1169
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:23,000
And then a spirit bomb, I guess something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
1170
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,000
But then she went supernova, I guess, basically is what pretty much.
1171
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,000
Yeah. White dwarf, whatever you want to call it.
1172
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:33,000
And she's like, no star can shine with a broken heart.
1173
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,000
I couldn't have done that without you.
1174
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:40,000
Just I'm sorry. So beautiful.
1175
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,000
Just so beautiful. I mean, come on.
1176
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:53,000
Like, it just it reached into that part of me and ripped it out and just went, no, you love this.
1177
01:49:53,000 --> 01:50:01,000
And I'm like, I do. I just oh my God, I was all the way in.
1178
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:05,000
Tristan goes to pick up the diamond for your vein.
1179
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:11,000
It turns into a ruby and all of the uncles are like, oh, so what happens now?
1180
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:17,000
And then, like because there's a new king and all that, which a fantastic moment.
1181
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:23,000
You got it. Six of those brothers turned into white lights that went up.
1182
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,000
And then Septimus turned into a red light that went down.
1183
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:31,000
I did not catch that. No, that is that is pretty good. That is pretty good.
1184
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:36,000
I think this is the first time I noticed that because I was paying so hardcore of attention.
1185
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,000
But when I saw that red light, I was like.
1186
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:47,000
You are your host. This movie is all I love it. I love it so much.
1187
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:56,000
The Royal Wedding and Superman's got the hots for Captain Shakespeare.
1188
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:04,000
I love that Henry Cavill threw the wank to De Niro, which also great moment for Cavill's early career.
1189
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,000
Right. Come on. That's true.
1190
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:13,000
And then Sienna Miller's just. Oh, it's so good.
1191
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:23,000
So good. A Babylon candle as a wedding gift from mom and dad and mom and dad are now back together and seeming very happy.
1192
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,000
I love that. It's I mean, you could not.
1193
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,000
I mean, they're like we talk like fairy tales having the happily ever after type thing.
1194
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:36,000
Like this is happily ever after times six is what happens right here.
1195
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,000
But nothing doesn't make sense. And that is just.
1196
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:43,000
God, what a movie. Last two notes.
1197
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:54,000
They ruled for 80 years and after their grandchildren were grown, they left for the sky because as Yvain eluded earlier, he has her heart.
1198
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,000
Her heart belongs to him because they're in love.
1199
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:02,000
So Tristan is never going to age. He's going to live forever.
1200
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:09,000
And after 80 years, they shoot off into the sky and just what a beautiful movie.
1201
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,000
What a beautiful movie.
1202
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,000
Now, this is people.
1203
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:19,000
People may talk shit about like overly saccharine, sappy, happy ending type thing.
1204
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,000
But I mean, when if you pull it off, it's there.
1205
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:30,000
Yeah, when you can't you can't deny that like this is a this this is a movie that makes you feel good in every way.
1206
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,000
And that's what that's what it's there for.
1207
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:38,000
Wow. Being you know, it's got good life advice in it and all that sort of stuff.
1208
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:44,000
I mean, yeah, you'd be very, very, very hard pressed to find anything wrong with this movie.
1209
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,000
You can't you know, no reason not to show it to your kids.
1210
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,000
No reason not to watch it on a date.
1211
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:59,000
No reason to just have it playing on the background for the rest of your life where you're working because fucking a you know, there's no there's no scenario that this film would not be appropriate.
1212
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Yeah. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween, like I mean, a regular ass day of the year, feeling bad, feeling good.
1213
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:13,000
This movie is there for I mean.
1214
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,000
What are the what are your final thoughts on this?
1215
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,000
I mean, good God, all we did was gush about this for two hours.
1216
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,000
Right. No. Yeah, I'd say this is a must see.
1217
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,000
It's a it's a it's a timeless fairy tale.
1218
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:36,000
It's right up there with The Wizard of Oz as a movie that that, you know, will live on for 100 plus years, I think, is a classic everyone should be.
1219
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:45,000
Yeah, I don't know if it's got that same sort of like it doesn't it doesn't use like CG for the animals like the bird that the mom was.
1220
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,000
That was a real bird. It was just the transition.
1221
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:55,000
So the CG is not going to like there was no CG in this set aside from maybe some flames and stuff.
1222
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,000
It's not going to age.
1223
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:02,000
Yeah, no. Yeah. And yeah, no.
1224
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,000
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that basically it sits in the same place as Wizard of Oz for me.
1225
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,000
It's a modern day Wizard of Oz.
1226
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:17,000
It is a timeless classic that everyone should see. Everyone should be watching as kids on holidays. And yeah, 100 percent.
1227
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:25,000
All right. And it's and I think it's like I think, yeah, I think we can I think we can safely say there's at least one movie like that every 100 years.
1228
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,000
Seems to be the case.
1229
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:31,000
If it is this one, I would not be surprised.
1230
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,000
I do not believe this movie is ever going to disappear.
1231
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:45,000
It's too good. And even if it does kind of disappear from the zeitgeist, anybody who goes and watches it is going to flip out and go to all their friends and go, dude, have you seen this?
1232
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:48,000
It is one of those.
1233
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:58,000
All right. And part two of tonight's episode is going to be The Golden Compass, directed by Chris Weitz and somewhat Ann Ann Tucker,
1234
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:12,000
written by Chris Weitz based on the novel Northern Lights by Philip Pullman starring Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig, Dakota Blue Richards, Ben Walker, Freddie Highmore and Sir Ian McKellen
1235
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:24,000
with Ava Green, Jim Carter, Tom Courtenay, Ian McShane, Sam Elliott, Kathy Bates, Simon
McBurney and Christopher Lee.
1236
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:28,000
I mean, another bang up cast.
1237
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:33,000
Oh, absolutely. The cast. Yes. The cast. Amazing.
1238
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:45,000
So apparently, see, here's the thing. I haven't read it. But apparently this book series, like Northern Lights is the first of a series that apparently is called the His Dark Materials series.
1239
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,000
Yes. Yes.
1240
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:50,000
I have heard very, very good things about this book series.
1241
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,000
As have I.
1242
01:55:52,000 --> 01:56:07,000
No one has been satisfied with this adaptation yet. This movie was apparently, I read somewhere that this movie was the reason why George R.R. Martin refused to let Game of Thrones be made into a movie.
1243
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:16,000
That is actually my first note that George R.R. Martin, you're right, cited this as one of the main reasons he wanted Game of Thrones to be a series instead of a movie.
1244
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:21,000
One hundred percent. And I can completely see why.
1245
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:31,000
Right. And the series that they did do on Showtime for this was pretty good. I thought it was definitely better than the movie.
1246
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:38,000
But apparently even that, the people who are fans of the book, apparently even that was unsatisfactory to the book's fans.
1247
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:54,000
So when I told, I watched this movie and because it was one of your recommendations, kind of, and I'm realizing now that the conversation, it actually wasn't one of your recommendations.
1248
01:56:54,000 --> 01:57:02,000
But I was confused and I went ahead and bought it on Amazon Prime.
1249
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:03,000
Yes.
1250
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:09,000
And here's the thing about Amazon Prime. Once it's in your library, you can't remove it.
1251
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:17,000
So I will always have the reminder of having bought this and I'm never going to watch it again.
1252
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,000
You know, here's the thing I remember.
1253
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:20,000
And this is what I remember.
1254
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,000
Oh, the point, the point, the point.
1255
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:29,000
So the point for me bringing that up, I'm never going to watch it again, is I wasn't able to watch this movie twice to take notes on it.
1256
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:33,000
I watched it once and went, no.
1257
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:38,000
So all of the notes that I have are just kind of trivia about it.
1258
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:46,000
Yeah. Well, and I know, you know, because, okay, first of all, let me, let me just recap real quick.
1259
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:58,000
The week that I have had, okay, as you may remember last week, I was, for fear that I was not going to be able to perform last week, I hyped myself up on caffeine in order to get through the show.
1260
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,000
Yes.
1261
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:04,000
That was a substantial mistake.
1262
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:12,000
That was a life error because after the show was over, I did not sleep that night.
1263
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:20,000
I like, I did not even start to get sleepy until about 7 a.m. that the next morning.
1264
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,000
Whoa.
1265
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:32,000
Yeah, that has fucked my life up to an unbelievable degree since then, trying to work, trying to do things.
1266
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:33,000
I've been forgetting to take my meds.
1267
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:38,000
Like, I have not been able to get my feet back from under me since then.
1268
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:42,000
I made a huge mistake.
1269
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:55,000
So when you said to me, because you watched the Golden Compass like right away, like almost right after the very next day after that show, after we agreed to do this.
1270
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,000
And you were like, are you sure that you want to do this?
1271
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:03,000
And I just kind of offhandedly went like, hey, you know, I know, I know that we say that we're not that kind of show, but you know what?
1272
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:07,000
It's probably good to toss it up once in a while and not gush over every movie.
1273
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:12,000
You know what? I was. Thank you for bringing that up because I was so confused by that.
1274
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:16,000
I'm like, I think I see where Doc's coming from.
1275
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:23,000
But oh my God, I don't want to do this to myself again.
1276
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,000
But I had not watched it yet.
1277
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:31,000
I did not actually have a chance to get myself to sit down and watch it until this morning.
1278
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:35,000
Oh, so.
1279
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:44,000
Yeah, I made a huge mistake and I'm still like I said, I'm still not fully recovered from my big mistake last week.
1280
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:48,000
And so I know you asked me to go ahead and be the one to take notes on this. And I tried.
1281
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,000
I really, really did.
1282
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:56,000
First of all, I can't even read my own handwriting.
1283
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:59,000
I get that. That's why I switched over to typing.
1284
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:06,000
I'm. Yeah. Second of all, I don't think these notes would have been that much that helpful anyway.
1285
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:11,000
We can tell we can we can we will do what we can.
1286
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:15,000
So some of the things to kind of talk about it in the abstract, we can.
1287
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:21,000
I mean, I think because I think we're both in agreement that what it's going to come down to is we're going to basically say, don't bother with this.
1288
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,000
Oh, don't bother with this movie. Absolutely not. No, no, no.
1289
02:00:24,000 -->
02:00:31,000
Like, yes, everybody will say the book is better than the movie. This one don't the movie.
1290
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:36,000
The director didn't like it. The actors didn't like it. The the author didn't like it.
1291
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:44,000
Nobody liked this movie. And the thing is, is that it's it's not even you can't even say it's entertainingly bad.
1292
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:50,000
There's nothing that is outwardly bad about the movie. There's just nothing about it that's good.
1293
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:57,000
Everything out of it, everything in this movie is just kind of meh, you know, and they tear through the story.
1294
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:01,000
I assume, you know, must be a pretty epic tale in this book.
1295
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:08,000
They pound through the plot so fast that you're kind of left going, what is even the point of any of this?
1296
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:17,000
Like, I think one of the notes I do remember writing down was that our main character, her name is Lyra.
1297
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:28,000
Lyra seems to have chosen one syndrome, meaning everyone just sort of assumes she's the hero of the story upon meeting her.
1298
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:36,000
There's no like even like Sam Elliott's character. He's like hanging out in the docks, sees her sitting over there and goes.
1299
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:39,000
He looks like she might change my life. Hey, little girl.
1300
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:44,000
Yeah, that was very, very awkward. How about I do whatever you ask forever now?
1301
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:49,000
And that's how this whole movie goes by. She doesn't even help the bear get the armor.
1302
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:57,000
She just tells him where it is, which is in the most obvious place that it possibly could have been.
1303
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:05,000
Like this movie was so dumb. Like, it seemed like a Harry Potter ripoff.
1304
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:07,000
Which I think probably was what they had in mind.
1305
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:14,000
I'm like 90 percent sure because this movie came out like right in the middle of the Harry Potter franchise fame.
1306
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:19,000
Like maybe I want to say like Harry Potter four maybe had just come out, maybe five.
1307
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:22,000
Whatever 2007. Right. Yeah.
1308
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:30,000
And so, yeah, I think this is probably another, you know, another studio's hope that they're going to get in on the young adult magic book series franchise.
1309
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:38,000
And they went for all the young adult movie, movie book tropes and everything. And none of them worked.
1310
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:41,000
Yeah, none of them worked.
1311
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:55,000
Director Chris Weitz has spoken on his annoyance from studio interference and how his original film was trashed due to requirements of runtime, casting and toning down religious subtext.
1312
02:02:55,000 --> 02:03:00,000
See. OK,
now here's the thing. That's the point from what I've heard again.
1313
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,000
I've got friends that are huge fans of this. Oh, yeah. From what I was. Yeah.
1314
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:09,000
Of this book is the fact that religion is a problem in this world.
1315
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:20,000
Like this is this takes the, you know, not so much now, but definitely in like the Dark Ages type thing of the the church versus scientific advancement and blows it up a thousand fold.
1316
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:28,000
Because that is the entire point of the story. So to say we need to tone down the religious subtext, it's like, where the fuck are you even making the movie then?
1317
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:34,000
Chuck Norris condemned this movie as anti-Christian.
1318
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:38,000
Well, OK, so Chuck Norris was right this one time.
1319
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:52,000
OK, well, see, here's the thing. The studios jumped in to tone down the religious subtext and the Christian community still boycotted this film anyway. Don't do that.
1320
02:03:52,000 --> 02:04:00,000
Like they're going to lose their minds anyway. Don't try to appease them. Make your art.
1321
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:09,000
Just make it. You're not going to make you're not going to make everybody happy. That's not freaking impossible unless you're making Stardust.
1322
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:15,000
But you're not going to make anybody like everybody.
1323
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:21,000
I'm so. You can't make everyone happy except Stardust. That one will make everyone in the world happy.
1324
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:27,000
I need to find a person who doesn't like Stardust. I need to find that person because I need to know why.
1325
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:34,000
And dissect their brain. I do. I cannot understand how you can rationalize not loving that movie.
1326
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:43,000
OK, so Dakota Blue Richards, she won this role in a 10,000 actor open casting call.
1327
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:48,000
And because they really, really thought she was going to be the next Hermione Granger. They were so sure of it.
1328
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:55,000
It really. Yeah, they really. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't even know if she became a better actor.
1329
02:04:55,000 --> 02:05:00,000
I did not think she gave a good performance in this. And I know it's kind of rude.
1330
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,000
It's mean to slam child actors and stuff like that. They're child actors. I get it.
1331
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:10,000
But we have many examples of child actors absolutely crushing it.
1332
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:24,000
And I mean, Watson, for example, Emma Watson, for example, the like the amazing young woman who crushed it in The Borrowers and then just retired from it.
1333
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,000
Retired from acting. Right. Yeah.
1334
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:33,000
Like, no, open casting calls can work. This time, I just don't think it did.
1335
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:40,000
And if you love this little girl's performance, that is, I guess this is subjective.
1336
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:47,000
This is not a factual I am not an acting coach or critic or anything like that.
1337
02:05:47,000 --> 02:06:01,000
This is just it comes it comes down with the rest of the like her performance like and honestly, so was everyone's performance like even even, you know, Daniel Craig was just kind of so what in this whole movie?
1338
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:09,000
Like, Daniel Craig was in this movie so little. If he wasn't Daniel Craig, I would have forgot that that character was in the movie.
1339
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:12,000
No, that's a good point. Yeah. No. Yeah.
1340
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:18,000
Like that's the only reason I remember half of these characters is because they were played by really famous people.
1341
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:23,000
Yeah. But all the performances and all the characters were all very kind of so what?
1342
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:29,000
So, yeah, I mean, it was like I don't think it was a good to say an Ian McKellen performance did not land on me.
1343
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,000
That is weird. Yeah.
1344
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:43,000
That is not something that I ever thought I would say that was especially that character. That was a character that should have been an absolute meal for someone like like Ian McShane.
1345
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:47,000
But McKellen, McKellen, sorry.
1346
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:54,000
Ian McShane is also in this, but he had top billing for the film and he only had one line in the entire movie.
1347
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:58,000
Right. Yeah.
1348
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:03,000
Wait, no, wait a second. Isn't Ian McShane the Bear King?
1349
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:10,000
That was one of the that was one of the trivia things that I came across was the fact that he said that he only had one line.
1350
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:14,000
So I maybe that trivia was just wrong.
1351
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:19,000
But I think you're right. He was he was the other Bear King. I thought. Yeah.
1352
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:24,000
Okay. I thought that's who I recognized as his voice. Then was it Christopher Lee that only had one line?
1353
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:30,000
Maybe it was Christopher Lee that only had one line. Okay. I may be I may be getting that one mixed up because I didn't write that down.
1354
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:36,000
Pierce Brosnan even does a whole hum job in this for a character that he should have been making me a love.
1355
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:42,000
Pierce Brosnan was in this? Wasn't that wasn't that Pierce Brosnan is the the old man, the the the father.
1356
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:45,000
What's his name? Father.
1357
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,000
I was mistaken him for somebody else.
1358
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,000
Pierce Brosnan?
1359
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,000
Are you thinking of the right actor?
1360
02:07:52,000 -->
02:07:54,000
Maybe.
1361
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,000
It's been a long week, man.
1362
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,000
You did say that you might have to cut this bit.
1363
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:02,000
You might have to cut this bit out depending on how embarrassing I'm getting this.
1364
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,000
This ends up being there.
1365
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:10,000
There's like I actually had some weird crossovers this week because I watched Gladiator this week, too.
1366
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:18,000
So one of the one of the church members was the the guy who played Gracchus in Gladiator.
1367
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:22,000
Oh, I was wrong. It was Tom Courtney.
1368
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:25,000
Okay. For some reason to the whole movie, I thought he was Pierce Brosnan.
1369
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,000
He just because he looks like a really old Pierce Brosnan.
1370
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,000
I thought it was I thought it was Pierce Brosnan playing an old man.
1371
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:38,000
Okay, I come I I'm not going to watch this movie again to find out who you're looking at.
1372
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:41,000
Are you talking about just send me a picture of the character?
1373
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,000
Just God, no.
1374
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:54,000
No, it was the guy the guy who when the witch shows up, which, by the way, you know, when my God Ava Green.
1375
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,000
Wow, Ava Green. Yeah.
1376
02:08:56,000 --> 02:09:04,000
Ava Green shows up literally out of nowhere and asks a little girl, are you little girl prophecy, which, you know, hello.
1377
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,000
How are you? Nice to meet you.
1378
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:15,000
And then says, I want to prove to me that you can use the compass. Tell me which one of the men on this ship used to be my lover.
1379
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:18,000
Lady, we just met.
1380
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:23,000
Also, this is a child. Maybe you don't want her looking at that.
1381
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:27,000
But also, Ava Green. The answer to the question was this guy.
1382
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:32,000
Oh, oh, OK. OK. OK. Then now I know who you're talking about.
1383
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:37,000
But also speaking on Ava Green's character.
1384
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:41,000
Her character in this film story is so weird.
1385
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:46,000
The studio wanted reshoots, but Ava Green is deathly afraid of heights.
1386
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:51,000
So getting up on the wires and doing all that the first time was something that she really had to push through.
1387
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:56,000
So when it came time for reshoots, Ava Green just flat out said no.
1388
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:57,000
Right. Yeah.
1389
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:07,000
So the reason why her character is so little in this film is because they just they couldn't get her back up on those wires when they were demanding the reshoots.
1390
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:12,000
So.
Good God, this movie was right.
1391
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:21,000
I mean, OK, so when I was giving the cast and crew on this one and I mentioned that somewhat director, Annan Tucker,
1392
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:29,000
the reason why he's a somewhat director is because Chris Weitz got so pissed off with all the interference and everything like that that was happening with this film that he left.
1393
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:36,000
So then Annan came in and then he got so pissed off and so frustrated with everything that he quit.
1394
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:40,000
And then Chris Weitz came back. Wow. OK.
1395
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:48,000
Like this movie was a disaster all the way through and through behind the scenes and everything.
1396
02:10:48,000 --> 02:11:01,000
So much so that this movie caused the downfall of New Line Cinema as an independent film company, forcing it to join Warner Brothers after going bankrupt in 2008.
1397
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:15,000
So New Line Cinema, which gave us in Red Bull, a lot of my favorite films, the 1989 slash 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie,
1398
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:24,000
one of my favorite New Line Cinema, the original Mortal Kombat movie, New Line Cinema, Blade, New Line Cinema.
1399
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:29,000
And when it came to Lord of the Rings mainstream.
1400
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:40,000
Yeah, when it came to the kooky non mainstream stuff that studios didn't want to touch, New Line Cinema were the ones they were brave enough to actually do, you know, new shit.
1401
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:45,000
And just look, look at everything that they did before joining Warner Brothers.
1402
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:49,000
Everything you just listed was an adaptation. I said even though everything you just listed was an adaptation.
1403
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:54,000
Doesn't matter. When it was in their hands, they crushed it. Yeah, no, that's true.
1404
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:02,000
Like it just doesn't matter. This was an adaptation. How well did they do? No, yeah, no, you got a point there.
1405
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:10,000
Okay. And just, okay, my final note, because like I said, I barely took anything.
1406
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:15,000
I wasn't going to watch it again. I wasn't going to do the scene by scene breakdown.
1407
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:22,000
I'm so sorry, guys. I just could not bring myself to do this because multiple reasons.
1408
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:28,000
One, I hated it, but it was also so bad that I just couldn't imagine that any of you enjoyed it.
1409
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:37,000
So I didn't see the point. Even and even if you are someone who is curious about the book series and want to get like an easy taste of it,
1410
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:45,000
go watch the Showtime series, better TV series out there. Yeah, there's a much, much better TV series out there that they only did two seasons before got canceled.
1411
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:50,000
But it covers, I think, the first book and a half. And that's that's good. And I enjoyed it.
1412
02:12:50,000 --> 02:13:06,000
So, you know, well, that does that does say something. But this movie winning an Oscar for Best Visual Effects when it came out the same year as the first Transformers movie and Pirates of the Caribbean.
1413
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:13,000
Are you Rick or Pirates of the Caribbean 2, the one with Davy Jones?
1414
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:26,000
What this this won the Oscar over? Yes, over Bill Nye as Davy Jones. That does not make sense in any capacity.
1415
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:33,000
Even Transformers was wildly, obviously, somebody got blackmailed. Somebody.
1416
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:45,000
This was, oh, my God, is to this day, Davy Jones is some of the in my mind, like the Pirates of the Caribbean. Davy Jones is insanely amazing.
1417
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:50,000
Yeah, it's crazy. Like I don't I haven't seen it's been what?
1418
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:56,000
Almost 20 years and I still haven't seen anything that compares to it with all the new technology we've got.
1419
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:03,000
I yeah, this that this is an Oscar winning movie.
1420
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:07,000
That flanked the studio that destroyed a studio nearly killed a franchise.
1421
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:17,000
But I do kind of understand why you may have accidentally upon wanting to watch this while you're in China.
1422
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:27,000
New Line Cinema sold the overseas rights to this film, which is what would have actually saved New Line Cinema. But they sold but they sold their overseas rights.
1423
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:33,000
So the two hundred million dollars that it made overseas, New Line Cinema didn't get any of it.
1424
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:40,000
Dude, what the fuck? And they had they had to sell some of their rights just to get this film made.
1425
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:51,000
They like literally this film destroyed New Line Cinema. The production of it and the release.
1426
02:14:51,000 --> 02:15:02,000
You know, I would say just from the historical standpoint of it, to see a studio go down, a studio like New Lane go down, you might want to see the movie that made it happen.
1427
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:06,000
But don't you have you have like it's not worth it. It's not worth it.
1428
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:08,000
You have better things to do with your life.
1429
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:14,000
No, that is why you watch the show. So we can tell you the stuff like that.
1430
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:27,000
Just go watch the trailer. Go watch the honest trailer. Go watch everything wrong with go watch anything other than this movie, because you're not going to get that time back.
1431
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:34,000
And I just don't think you're going to feel good about yourself or the film industry after watching this.
1432
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:42,000
Yeah, like there's nothing you're not going to. Yeah, it's not even like I said, it's
not even anything in there that's comically bad where you can have a good time laughing at it.
1433
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:47,000
Like it's just the whole thing is just boring.
1434
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:57,000
But I know it won the Oscar and I'm going to say that it's snubbed Transformers and Hearts the Caribbean 2.
1435
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:04,000
But some of the CG for these animals was pretty damn good.
1436
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:09,000
Some of it. They definitely put it like the polar bears, for instance, definitely came off really well, I thought.
1437
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:15,000
I agree. The fight scene between the polar bears. Oh, yeah, that fight scene was. Yeah, that.
1438
02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:22,000
The intro scene where he's working the fire and stuff like that. That was kind of impressive.
1439
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:27,000
I thought that was done. Well, yes. Yeah. But the lack of blood in this.
1440
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:34,000
Oh, my God. You had a bear fight where they're covered in white fur and there's no blood.
1441
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:39,000
And they're clawing each other and one dude literally gets his jaw ripped off.
1442
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:45,000
No blood because it because it's supposed to be a kid's movie, even though again, see, this is another example.
1443
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:56,000
Like we said, Stardust high body count, kid appropriate. This one also high body count crying badly to be kid appropriate.
1444
02:16:56,000 --> 02:17:02,000
Yes. And trying badly, like I said, like that whole scene about Eva Green asking like a nine year old girl,
1445
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:09,000
tell me who I used to hook up with little girl. That's weird.
1446
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:17,000
Like you're trying to go for a kid friendly and you wind up doing the like the most non kid friendly thing you could have done.
1447
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:25,000
Right. Yeah. Just what a way to miss the mark and completely not understand what you were going for.
1448
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:32,000
I. What else do you want to talk about with this one, Doc?
1449
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:37,000
I mean, I don't know. Maybe if I had read the book, I could say something about that.
1450
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:44,000
And I keep meaning to like I said, I know a few people that just absolutely go nuts over the series.
1451
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:49,000
The series. Sure. Oh, wait, wait. The book series or the TV series?
1452
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:56,000
The book series. No, his dark materials. I have heard great things about it and I may still go watch or read it one day.
1453
02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:04,000
I'm going to need time to forget this so I don't have the visualizations from this movie in my head while I'm reading the book.
1454
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:11,000
That would definitely paint the book for me. Right. So I'm going to need some time.
1455
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:20,000
How about this? Let's look. We can do this a little bit roast style and we can try to, I don't know,
1456
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:26,000
bring up other movies that this one has reminded us of or something like that. I don't know.
1457
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:31,000
Yeah. Well, I mean, there was a whole slew of them because like after the whole Harry Potter thing,
1458
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:38,000
all the studios were trying to do their young adult super series and we got a bunch of them.
1459
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:42,000
We got this, we got the Descendants from Disney.
1460
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:44,000
Nautico.
1461
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:50,000
Interesting concept. I never saw any of it. I think it was one of those Disney Channel exclusive.
1462
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:55,000
I know we got like Twilight and like the Divergent series.
1463
02:18:55,000 --> 02:19:00,000
Divergent was another one. I saw the first Divergent one. I thought it was interesting.
1464
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,000
I saw the first one.
1465
02:19:03,000 --> 02:19:08,000
Oh, the Maze was another one. Maze Runner. There you go. Maze Runners. Yeah.
1466
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,000
Percy Jackson.
1467
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:16,000
Percy Jackson, which I know a lot of folks have. Yeah, you're right. They really went hard in the paint on that one.
1468
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:19,000
None of them succeeded.
1469
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:25,000
No, I mean, Percy Jackson, I think it's still going. I hear they just started and they just rebooted it on a TV series again.
1470
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:28,000
Okay. So, well, okay. So it's not still going. They started over.
1471
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,000
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But but yeah.
1472
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:46,000
Yeah, none of them. None of them caught the same caught the same fire that Harry Potter did, which is weird because like I can't because even as someone who's seen most of the Harry Potter movies, not all of them.
1473
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:49,000
I've seen them all a couple of times.
1474
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:50,000
Yeah.
1475
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:52,000
Never read the books.
1476
02:19:52,000 --> 02:20:04,000
I could not I could not tell you what it is that makes it work. That's the thing. I mean, it's I've tried and it's a little weird, especially like the more interviews that I see with JK Rowling.
1477
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:08,000
I don't get how she was able to come up with any of this. She's kind of stupid.
1478
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:14,000
She wrote. She wrote Harry Potter for her children or like for her children.
1479
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:23,000
And from what I understand, she I mean, she just kind of stole everything from everywhere and just put it all in one book.
1480
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:26,000
Yeah, yeah, a little bit of that. Yep.
1481
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,000
That's that's from what I understand.
1482
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:38,000
But at the same I mean, and I don't really feel too bad about like knocking JK Rowling because she's kind of
turned into a monster.
1483
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:42,000
Yeah, she she has not aged well, it would seem.
1484
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:46,000
No, and she's completely doing it to herself around every corner.
1485
02:20:46,000 --> 02:21:00,000
Nobody is asking her these questions. She's just going on social media and just letting everybody know, which it's weird to be the magic person and then also be the person who's upset about people changing gender.
1486
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,000
That's weird.
1487
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:12,000
If you're just right, just objectively speaking in your story, you write about a girl like like people switching genders, magic, all of this stuff like that.
1488
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:17,000
That's part of your imagination. All of these things.
1489
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:20,000
But do you hate that?
1490
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:24,000
Yeah, well, objectively speaking, that doesn't make sense.
1491
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:29,000
If I were to put on my armchair psychologist hat,
1492
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:35,000
I have I have I've worn it on many occasions.
1493
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,000
What do you got?
1494
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:45,000
He is the absolute trademark classist.
1495
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:56,000
And I say this based on like when people have asked her what her like influences and fantasy were when she was like writing Harry Potter and stuff like that.
1496
02:21:56,000 --> 02:22:00,000
She never admitted to reading any fantasy in her mind.
1497
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:05,000
Fantasy was for children was for the lower classes.
1498
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:06,000
Yeah, I've heard this before.
1499
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:14,000
Yeah, she's she's you know, she's someone who literally believes that the fans of her own work are beneath her.
1500
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:29,000
She is a person who believes that there is a class inherent class system. Classes are supposed to be structured and rigid. And if you take a look at where all this starts, she's a classist.
1501
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:35,000
And yes, it you know, racism, sexism, all of these things.
1502
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:46,000
These are all just branches of classism. It's about there are people who are inherently up here and people who are inherently down here. And any attempt to shuffle that around is an offense.
1503
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:59,000
Even if like J.K. Rowling, you are a woman and you are not at the top of that class system, you will still defend it because you are not at the bottom and you will not put up with anyone trying to shuffle that up.
1504
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:02,000
I do see where you're coming from with that.
1505
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:09,000
I am 100 percent old school British classist. That is that is who she is.
1506
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,000
And I do. Yeah.
1507
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:16,000
Which is amazing considering she was someone who used to be unemployed.
1508
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:27,000
She wrote Harry Potter while on welfare, unemployed, raising her kids as a single mother. And yet he is the most classic of classists.
1509
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:31,000
That to me is amazing.
1510
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:40,000
That does suck. I mean, but there are like there are a lot of writers out there that just really are awful people.
1511
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:50,000
And they well, I mean, it's come out. We just got done talking about Stardust. Apparently Neil Gaiman's been exposed. And that's unfortunate.
1512
02:23:50,000 --> 02:24:01,000
I saw that I saw that coming when I when I saw him in interviews, when I saw that I was like, he kind of had the vibe of a creep. And I was like, oh, man.
1513
02:24:01,000 --> 02:24:10,000
It's because you're considering how heartfelt and all of his work is, you know, it really is upsetting to.
1514
02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:17,000
Yeah. To find out that someone who's able to create like it's one thing to find out that Ernest Hemingway is an asshole.
1515
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:24,000
It's like, oh, Ernest Hemingway. So, yeah, it's it's it's one thing to find out Ernest Hemingway is an asshole.
1516
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:28,000
And you're just like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. You can see it in his work. He's a dick, you know.
1517
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:40,000
But when someone that is that like so philosophical, so imaginative, so heartfelt, so sensitive to humanity in their work,
1518
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:47,000
to find out that they are a shallow prick in real life to the to a nearly abusive level.
1519
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:50,000
What what are the things that you're referencing?
1520
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:58,000
But because I don't know any of this, I just like I said, just in interviews, he just kind of, yeah, seem like a guy that I don't know exactly what's going on.
1521
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:05,000
It's one of the it's one of those things that as the news of it starts to pop up, I'm like, I cannot take another one of these.
1522
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:11,000
I'm going to look away, like I like especially if it was somebody like Neil Gaiman that you kind of look up to.
1523
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:17,000
I can understand that. But apparently the I was going to say, is he was he at ditty parties or Epstein Island?
1524
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,000
Like what's going on? Nothing like that.
1525
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:30,000
More like taking advantage of of folks at cons and stuff like that to the point where hush money needed to be paid.
1526
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:35,000
I don't know what the details are, like I said, when they first start to pop up, I looked away.
1527
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:42,000
But what I did catch was that there were hush money payments made and that it was that bad.
1528
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:48,000
Well. Hmm. That's one of those things.
1529
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:53,000
Hush money doesn't necessarily mean something really bad.
1530
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:58,000
It can just
not a great. No, it's not a great sign. No. Oh, my God. It's not a great sign.
1531
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:04,000
But it can be as simple as something humiliating.
1532
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:21,000
Like. Say like, say a billionaire has a kink that like, I don't know, like likes to have troll dolls watch or something like that, you know, and then paying hush money to people just and having them sign NDAs.
1533
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:22,000
Oh, my God. Don't.
1534
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:25,000
That's you embarrassing kink. You have got a sheltered life.
1535
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:30,000
I'm being very gentle because I'm going to edit and post this.
1536
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:34,000
So I'm still I'm still I'm you know.
1537
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:38,000
Do you have OK, so.
1538
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,000
Why don't we do this?
1539
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:44,000
Yeah, what's the movie fight?
1540
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:52,000
The movie between these two movies. Really, really, dude.
1541
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:57,000
Oh, it's not it's not even nice. It's not even fair.
1542
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:01,000
The Golden Compass forfeited before they even got into the ring.
1543
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:06,000
True. It was very, very bad.
1544
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:12,000
Covering covering like it for me, covering movies should not hurt.
1545
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:16,000
No, no, that's true. I love movies.
1546
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:22,000
That's that. Yeah. Well, and that's that's why I keep saying we're not going to do we're not going to do the how did this get made?
1547
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:28,000
Shit like people keep trying to get us to, you know, audience recommendations are always these objectively bad movies.
1548
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:31,000
They want us to tear apart. I'm not going to do that.
1549
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:39,000
Like that's when I when I have to like I get there are people out there who enjoy watching the train wreck of bad movies and laughing at this.
1550
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:42,000
I get it. And there is value in that. If that's your thing. Great.
1551
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:46,000
For me, I feel like my time has been stolen. Yeah.
1552
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:53,000
You can't even roast Golden Compass because the good actors are still giving good performances.
1553
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:58,000
You don't really have bad things to say about them. The cinematography is not horrible.
1554
02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:04,000
The movie was cut to absolute shreds to where you don't like the story doesn't make sense.
1555
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:12,000
This is a movie to put a toddler in front of and just have them be distracted by the pretty images.
1556
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:16,000
Yeah, no, for sure. And that's about all it's good for. Yeah.
1557
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:32,000
And that is that is saying that is a movie with Daniel Craig, Nicole Kidman, Kathy Bates, Sam Elliott, Ian McShane and Ian McKellen and some to say that
about a movie with that kind of cast.
1558
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:38,000
And it's not an anime. It's not Rio. It's not. It's the first time.
1559
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:45,000
It's the first time ever, ever seen Nicole Kidman in a movie where she is fully dolled up.
1560
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:54,000
We're talking dress, hair, makeup. She could not look any more like a star than she than she has in this movie.
1561
02:28:54,000 --> 02:29:00,000
But even he was whatever. Like I like I like.
1562
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:04,000
I was bored with her and I am not bored with Nicole Kidman.
1563
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:08,000
No, something is wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
1564
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:13,000
This was this was rough. Round one. Who do we care about more?
1565
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:27,000
Pretty clearly, it's Tristan and Yvain and oh my God, Robert De Niro is in this movie for just a few minutes and you unbelievably care about anything and everything that may ever happen to him.
1566
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:33,000
Exactly. Yes. You fall in love with Peter O'Toole in half a second.
1567
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:36,000
Right. Even though he's an evil bastard, you still fall in love with him.
1568
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:41,000
The evil brothers that are killing themselves. You can't help but root for them to kill each other.
1569
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:47,000
I mean, no, you actually care. It's crazy that you care about everybody.
1570
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:53,000
Except who the movie wants you to not care about. You care about Bernard.
1571
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:57,000
You care about Bernard. Billy the Goat Man, I felt for.
1572
02:29:57,000 --> 02:30:03,000
No, like Stardust. My God. Round one. Who do we care about more?
1573
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:09,000
Stardust. Round two. Which one succeeded? Technically.
1574
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:21,000
I mean, neither one of them did anything technically wrong, except maybe the editing, you know, depending on Golden Compass.
1575
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:36,000
I think if there are explanations, if there are explanations in the book about how that boy wound up in a random snow town to be found by the Golden Compass, why?
1576
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:45,000
Not even a random snow town, a random snow shack in the middle of the fucking tundra with nothing around for miles.
1577
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,000
Let's start with what that shack is even doing there in the first place.
1578
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:59,000
Right. I mean, good God. No, like when the opening scene with like the bear fight and all the stuff.
1579
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:09,000
Yeah, sure. There was some. And then you should care about like the. Everything you should care about in Golden Compass, you just don't.
1580
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:15,000
Right. Exactly. So my God, just round two goes to Stardust.
1581
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:24,000
As far as recommendation. My recommendation for the Golden Compass is to not watch it.
1582
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:36,000
Exactly. You have a must see versus must never see. Exactly. Yeah, it is. Wow.
1583
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:46,000
So yeah, three for three Stardust. Just no contest.
1584
02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:59,000
Yeah. It was like so it's so badly beaten, I almost feel sorry for it, except if not for the fact that it somehow won an Oscar against the Davy Jones special.
1585
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:06,000
That doesn't make sense. That dude, it should not have won an Oscar against that. No, it should not have won an Oscar against Bumblebee.
1586
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:12,000
I'm sorry. Like, no, you have like I know you're only talking about the Pirates movie and you should be.
1587
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:19,000
I'm not discounting that. But the first Transformers movie, I feel like that was absolutely incredible.
1588
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:26,000
I went to the theaters and saw that and I was blown away by how great Michael Bay did with the special effects on that one.
1589
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:35,000
I mean, it was nothing but a big old bang bang movie, but the Transformers looked incredible. That's undeniable.
1590
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:42,000
So as far as that goes, no, this movie didn't even beat Transformers.
1591
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:51,000
It's kind of weird. Yes. But definitely. Oh my God, Davy Jones and his crew.
1592
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:59,000
Right. The Kraken. The Kraken alone should have won special effects that year.
1593
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:08,000
Yeah. No, no, no, pure snub. But no, Stardust, on the other hand, absolutely outstanding.
1594
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:13,000
Well, and it was like it was like you said earlier, there wasn't a lot of CG in there.
1595
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:17,000
They and some of the magic stuff, but they had real animals instead of animated ones.
1596
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:25,000
They only used CG where they needed to. And it wasn't half-assed or cartoony when they did it.
1597
02:33:25,000 --> 02:33:34,000
So it was, you know. No. Oh my God. Once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, the drowning of Septimus in the Voodoo doll.
1598
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:40,000
And then his sword fight afterwards. Like, yeah, like there was like, I mean, come on.
1599
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:44,000
Oh, no, I'm just talking like the visual effects. The sword fight was incredible.
1600
02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:49,000
The choreography, absolutely. That is quite possibly my favorite sword fight to ever watch.
1601
02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:59,000
It's amazing. But it's like, how did they do that? Like you said, like they must have had, they must have had the guy on wires while he was fighting to be able to stand like that.
1602
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:11,000
But still, to be able to like to successfully pull those movements off while, yes, even like being on wires, but doubled over backwards, staring behind you, still pulling those moves off.
1603
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:18,000
I mean, the fact that he
was doing that without looking, not just bent over backwards, not looking.
1604
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:25,000
That is literally a man who could whoop your ass bent over backwards with his eyes closed.
1605
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:33,000
Fantastic. All right. So just 100% through and through. Stardust is taking it.
1606
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:39,000
Real quick. All right. So next week, what do you got for me?
1607
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:46,000
Well, it's Christmas time. So I have what I think could be the new like Seminole Christmas movie.
1608
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,000
It's a newer one. It only came out in like 2019.
1609
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:54,000
So but I haven't heard enough buzz about this movie. I don't hear enough people talking about this movie.
1610
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:58,000
I think this should be a more like well-known traditional.
1611
02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:03,000
I think this should be the movie that you should show your kids every Christmas for years to come.
1612
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:10,000
I've already watched it every Christmas since 2019 when it came out. It's called 8-Bit Christmas.
1613
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:17,000
And it is like for if you're my generation, you know, the Christmas story, the old the old Christmas story.
1614
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:20,000
Yeah, everybody knows the Christmas story still plays every year.
1615
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:23,000
Who just right. Who just wants his red writer be begun.
1616
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:32,000
This is a movie about a guy telling his daughter the story about how the about the one Christmas in the 90s when all he wanted was a Super Nintendo.
1617
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:37,000
It is a phenomenal, phenomenal movie.
1618
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:42,000
And I and I look forward looking forward to your reaction to it.
1619
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:47,000
Fair enough. It's kind of funny that you say people from your generation
1620
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:53,000
because every bro from my generation has the leg lamp from a Christmas story.
1621
02:35:56,000 --> 02:35:59,000
So that movie did not stop with your generation.
1622
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:05,000
My generation, my generation did learn the lesson of the leg lamp when we watched that movie.
1623
02:36:05,000 --> 02:36:08,000
We all thought it, but we all thought it.
1624
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:10,000
But none of us took the step forward.
1625
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:14,000
We knew better. However, the fragile Italian.
1626
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:20,000
Yes. No, no, no. That that that joke has been said a million times over for you.
1627
02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:23,000
OK, so you have a new Christmas movie.
1628
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:29,000
I guess my response is going to be the best Christmas movie of all time.
1629
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:32,000
A Muppet Christmas Carol.
1630
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:37,000
You're not even going to try to go for something undersold that needs more attention.
1631
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:41,000
You're going to write for the mainstream, the most mainstream ever.
1632
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:45,000
I see. Here's the thing.
1633
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:49,000
Throughout my life, every single year I have watched a Christmas Carol.
1634
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:56,000
It does not matter when I was in Iraq, when I was in Kosovo, when I was traveling as an actor, as a photographer.
1635
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:58,000
Did not matter when Christmas came around.
1636
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:00,000
I watched a Muppet Christmas Carol.
1637
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:08,000
The amount of people that have come by me like when I'm traveling, when I've been around people, what the hell is that?
1638
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:10,000
They've never seen it.
1639
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:15,000
A Muppet Christmas Carol is not as popular as you may think it is.
1640
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:18,000
Should be. It does not make sense.
1641
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:19,000
My mind is blown.
1642
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:21,000
It does not make sense. Why it isn't?
1643
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:28,000
But I have had far too many people have no idea that the Muppets ever did a Christmas Carol.
1644
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,000
And it is the best.
1645
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:32,000
Well, then I guess this counts as doing a service.
1646
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:35,000
Best. The best version of a Christmas Carol.
1647
02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:37,000
I mean, Dickens would be proud.
1648
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:39,000
Excuse me, Gonsal.
1649
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:43,000
For sure.
1650
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:48,000
Well, then I guess it's going to be a battle of the traditions, new and old.
1651
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:50,000
We're going to see who comes out on top.
1652
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:53,000
The Muppet Christmas Carol or 8-Bit Christmas.
1653
02:37:53,000 --> 02:38:02,000
If I do not wind up fighting for a Muppet Christmas Carol, I'm telling you 8-Bit Christmas must be the greatest thing out there.
1654
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:04,000
Well, look, see, here's the thing. I really do.
1655
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:11,000
As an old school Muppets fan, I don't feel good about going up against the Muppets anything, you know.
1656
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:15,000
That's fair. That's that is fair.
1657
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:20,000
I mean, God, Jim Henson just crushed it.
1658
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:28,000
I mean, he did ruin the Ninja Turtles for me, but he also did just crush everything else.
1659
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:31,000
I mean, I don't know how I mean, I'm trying to remember.
1660
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:34,000
The secret of the ooze was absolutely terrible, man.
1661
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,000
No, yeah, but wasn't Henson already dead by then?
1662
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:42,000
Yeah, which is why they were forced to honor his wishes.
1663
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:52,000
Oh, Jim Henson was appalled with the violence and the use of his puppets using weapons in the 1990 Ninja Turtle.
1664
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:56,000
So he opposed it and then he died.
1665
02:38:56,000 --> 02:39:01,000
So how the hell are you going to argue that?
1666
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:09,000
But you know, OK, he wasn't totally I mean, I remember the first time I showed my kids the original Ninja Turtles movie.
1667
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:13,000
I had forgotten some of the details.
1668
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:18,000
The way Shredder dies, my children were shocked.
1669
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:25,000
They were like they they looked at me like, what is what are you what are you showing us?
1670
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:33,000
Like the bad guy died, murdered him, the bad guy died, the bad guy didn't just die.
1671
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:35,000
He was murdered.
1672
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:36,000
Yes, he was.
1673
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:38,000
This wasn't a fight to the finish.
1674
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:40,000
It wasn't it wasn't me or him.
1675
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:41,000
No, they were.
1676
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,000
It was a fight to the finish.
1677
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:48,000
It was a fight to the finish.
1678
02:39:48,000 --> 02:39:49,000
Oh, man.
1679
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:51,000
And Splinter's voice in that, it Okusaki.
1680
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:56,000
Ah, no, I can't I can't believe I remember that name.
1681
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:59,000
That is how iconic that voice is to me.
1682
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:07,000
But that that voice in particular is one that I practiced my whole childhood, which is why I can nail Splinter's voice to this day.
1683
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:15,000
Which I mean, you've heard that that's that's almost what I did for your detective in in the book.
1684
02:40:15,000 --> 02:40:19,000
But we'll we'll talk about that another time.
1685
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:26,000
All right, so next week is going to be 8 bit Christmas versus a Muppet Christmas Carol.
1686
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:31,000
From now until then, stay safe and stay sane, guys, and happy holidays.
1687
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:50,000
Good night, everybody.