Full Transcript for Serial Killer Documentary - Patrick Kearney

00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:59.840 I remember, because I was out of school, going with 37 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:01.900 my mom and dad and my sister driving all the 38 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.259 way out to Riverside County, where the purpose was to 39 00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:09.210 go to the police department there to give their blood 40 00:03:09.289 --> 00:03:13.710 test and to identify a photo that had a birthmark 41 00:03:14.949 --> 00:03:15.969 that was John's. 42 00:03:17.009 --> 00:03:21.400 The murder of John LeMay would finally unmask the elusive 43 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:22.879 trash bag killer. 44 00:03:24.139 --> 00:03:27.750 Once they identified him, They were able then, of course, 45 00:03:27.830 --> 00:03:31.210 to ask questions about his whereabouts, where he had last been. 46 00:03:31.229 --> 00:03:34.930 And one of the leads led them to the house 47 00:03:34.990 --> 00:03:38.879 of a man named David Hill. And he shared that 48 00:03:38.939 --> 00:03:40.349 house with Patrick Carney. 49 00:03:42.219 --> 00:03:45.020 Finally, the pieces of the puzzle were coming together, and 50 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.419 the police were getting closer to catching this killer. 51 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:58.759 This killer story begins in Los Angeles, California, in 1939. 52 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:03.539 Patrick Kearney was born on the 24th of September, the 53 00:04:03.659 --> 00:04:07.990 oldest of three brothers. As a child, Kearney was small 54 00:04:08.069 --> 00:04:11.530 and scrawny, which led to him becoming a target for 55 00:04:11.550 --> 00:04:12.449 the school bullies. 56 00:04:13.449 --> 00:04:18.730 He told me that he felt at times as a 57 00:04:18.790 --> 00:04:27.110 youth he was picked on, but he fantasized about striking back. 58 00:04:29.769 --> 00:04:34.029 He remembered later, at the age of eight, that he'd 59 00:04:34.069 --> 00:04:38.310 fantasized about killing people, an extraordinary thing when you consider 60 00:04:38.370 --> 00:04:41.100 it for an eight-year-old to do, horrifying. 61 00:04:42.579 --> 00:04:46.259 I think this was probably a control mechanism because Kearney 62 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.279 lacked control. He lacked control over his childhood. He didn't 63 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.959 have those good relationships with his peers. Those skills to 64 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.129 negotiate conflict were something that just didn't happen. They didn't emerge. 65 00:04:58.629 --> 00:05:01.069 And in other children, you find that that does. So 66 00:05:01.149 --> 00:05:04.089 he's an outsider again, and this will come to have 67 00:05:04.110 --> 00:05:05.910 an impact throughout the rest of his life. 68 00:05:07.110 --> 00:05:11.740 Kearney later recalled that his mother was caring, but his father, George, 69 00:05:11.899 --> 00:05:16.060 a salesman, worked a lot and seemed somewhat disinterested in 70 00:05:16.139 --> 00:05:19.699 raising a family, although he did teach his son how 71 00:05:19.740 --> 00:05:20.180 to shoot. 72 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:24.300 So at a very young age, he gets to learn 73 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:29.019 how to send something from a living animated creature into 74 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.990 a corpse that is quite easy to control. And I 75 00:05:32.029 --> 00:05:35.850 think the lesson from that, the feeling of power perhaps 76 00:05:35.870 --> 00:05:38.050 that that gave him, was something that stayed with him. 77 00:05:40.050 --> 00:05:44.040 Kearney's relationship with his father was a complex one. 78 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.699 I think the important thing for me is what his 79 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:53.079 father represented, the stereotypical masculine American man. He's tough, he's stoic, 80 00:05:53.139 --> 00:05:56.079 he's resilient, and this is everything that Kearney is not. 81 00:05:56.660 --> 00:05:59.990 So there's that inadequacy there in terms of his relationship 82 00:06:00.050 --> 00:06:03.149 with his father. So that is something that would stay 83 00:06:03.189 --> 00:06:05.290 with him, and I think that is a factor that 84 00:06:05.329 --> 00:06:06.170 fueled his offending. 85 00:06:08.230 --> 00:06:11.490 By the age of 20, Kearney had joined the U.S. 86 00:06:11.649 --> 00:06:14.709 Air Force as an engineer and was living in Texas. 87 00:06:16.129 --> 00:06:18.370 It was there he fell in love with a man 88 00:06:18.430 --> 00:06:19.629 named David Hill. 89 00:06:21.029 --> 00:06:24.500 The affair develops, and Hill leaves his wife for Kearney. 90 00:06:25.750 --> 00:06:29.740 Now, perhaps for the first time, Kearney felt truly loved, 91 00:06:30.379 --> 00:06:34.560 the love that he'd never had during his childhood. 92 00:06:34.579 --> 00:06:40.670 By 1977, 37-year-old Patrick Kearney was living back in California 93 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.089 with David Hill. Kearney had found a job as an 94 00:06:44.209 --> 00:06:47.930 engineer at Hughes Aircraft, and the couple were sharing a 95 00:06:47.970 --> 00:06:54.600 home together in Redondo Beach. Around the same time, 70 96 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:59.660 miles away in Riverside County, Deputy District Attorney Dan Bukolsky 97 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.759 was given a new assignment. 98 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.420 I was in the office, and the sheriff's department out 99 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.800 there came in with some evidence they wanted me to 100 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.750 look at, regarding some bodies they had found over the 101 00:07:14.790 --> 00:07:21.949 last year or so. These bodies were found dismembered expertly 102 00:07:22.829 --> 00:07:26.709 in industrial plastic trash bags and wanted me to look 103 00:07:26.750 --> 00:07:27.319 at the evidence. 104 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.720 The bodies of three young men had been found across 105 00:07:31.779 --> 00:07:36.399 Riverside County in Southern California. The murders bore all the 106 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.170 hallmarks of a twisted serial killer. 107 00:07:40.160 -->

00:07:47.000 In these cases, the dismemberment was done expertly, and the 108 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:52.509 pathologist opined that the individual who had done this had 109 00:07:52.589 --> 00:07:56.389 lots of practice. There were no hesitation marks. It was 110 00:07:56.509 --> 00:08:02.709 as if someone had trained on how to dismember the 111 00:08:02.750 --> 00:08:03.379 human body. 112 00:08:04.269 --> 00:08:06.860 So he's like a professional butcher in a butcher shop. 113 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:08.259 He's an expert. 114 00:08:11.149 --> 00:08:15.509 Of course, that leads law enforcement to focus in on 115 00:08:15.790 --> 00:08:19.959 what they believe to be a serious serial perpetrator. 116 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:28.980 In March 1977, 17-year-old John LeMay went missing. His sister, Teresa, 117 00:08:29.259 --> 00:08:32.460 was just nine years old when her big brother vanished. 118 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:38.559 I remember my mom and dad kind of talking to 119 00:08:38.580 --> 00:08:40.440 each other a lot and going, well, have you seen 120 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:44.120 wondering where John was, because John apparently did not come 121 00:08:44.179 --> 00:08:45.379 home the night before. 122 00:08:46.779 --> 00:08:50.669 John hadn't returned home from school on the 13th of March. 123 00:08:51.210 --> 00:08:54.230 His family immediately reported him missing. 124 00:08:55.350 --> 00:08:58.370 All I remember my dad saying is to my mom 125 00:08:58.429 --> 00:09:00.690 after he got off the phone, well, he's either missing 126 00:09:00.789 --> 00:09:04.460 or he's dead. And I remember that just floored me 127 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.360 when I heard the word dead. 128 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:10.039 You know, just, what? 129 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.779 I'm nine years old. That rings in my ears, because 130 00:09:13.820 --> 00:09:15.659 at that moment, I just thought. 131 00:09:16.419 --> 00:09:16.820 He's dead? 132 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.600 That's all I heard. 133 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.100 And Teresa's fears were soon realized. 134 00:09:24.139 --> 00:09:27.580 They found, you know, body parts and dismemberment in a 135 00:09:27.620 --> 00:09:30.340 trash can in Corona. They think it might be John, 136 00:09:30.379 --> 00:09:34.399 but they weren't quite sure. And they just have to confirm. 137 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:41.000 Identified by a birthmark on his remains, John LeMay had 138 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:44.230 become the victim of the murderer the press had dubbed 139 00:09:44.669 --> 00:09:50.190 the Trash Bag Killer, a callous and perverse sexual predator. 140 00:09:52.190 --> 00:09:53.809 We don't know his cause of death. 141 00:09:55.169 --> 00:09:57.990 If it followed the normal pattern, he would have been 142 00:09:58.090 --> 00:09:59.250 shot in the head with a. 143 00:09:59.210 --> 00:09:59.389 22 Darin. 144 00:10:01.379 --> 00:10:05.919 And he would have been then sexually assaulted in either 145 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.740 a semi-conscious or dead state, and then he was disarticulated, dismembered, 146 00:10:12.379 --> 00:10:15.980 put in a plastic bag and dumped. The cause of 147 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.000 death could not be conclusively proven, because we never found 148 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.779 his head, his hands, or his feet. 149 00:10:24.539 --> 00:10:29.299 The news of 17-year-old John's death brought heartache to the 150 00:10:29.350 --> 00:10:30.070 LeMay home. 151 00:10:30.710 --> 00:10:34.370 The atmosphere in the house with my siblings, it was 152 00:10:34.490 --> 00:10:39.529 very somber. No one wanted to talk about it. I 153 00:10:39.929 --> 00:10:42.730 kind of remember that, just because we were kind of 154 00:10:42.750 --> 00:10:46.830 a family that, you know, you do life. But as 155 00:10:46.870 --> 00:10:49.289 far as sharing her feelings or her thoughts or what's 156 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:52.340 going on, it was more everybody just kind of closed up. 157 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:59.279 But information from John LeMay's mother, Patricia, would bring detectives 158 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:01.019 a much-needed clue. 159 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.639 When the police spoke to her and interviewed her, she 160 00:11:04.700 --> 00:11:07.100 said that the last person she knew that he was 161 00:11:07.139 --> 00:11:09.179 going to meet was an individual by the name of 162 00:11:09.259 --> 00:11:09.720 David Hill. 163 00:11:12.090 --> 00:11:17.129 34-year-old David Hill immediately became a person of interest. When 164 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:21.299 investigators arrived at his Redondo Beach home, they were greeted 165 00:11:21.379 --> 00:11:26.220 by his partner, 37-year-old aircraft engineer Patrick Kearney. 166 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:36.169 He was a very mild-mannered person, didn't express emotions or 167 00:11:36.230 --> 00:11:39.370 feelings that caused the officers to believe he was guilty. 168 00:11:41.289 --> 00:11:47.100 Given Kearney's character and his extraordinary conceit, he was going 169 00:11:47.129 --> 00:11:50.200 to make absolutely sure not to complain when the police 170 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:53.000 arrived at his front door. As far as they were concerned, 171 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:57.840 he was a model citizen, upright, hardworking, and ordinary. There 172 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.379 was nothing that he was going to do to contradict 173 00:12:00.460 --> 00:12:01.179 that impression. 174 00:12:01.940 --> 00:12:05.990 With Kearney watching on, the detectives were looking for specific 175 00:12:06.049 --> 00:12:09.210 forensic evidence during their search of the house. 176 00:12:09.870 --> 00:12:12.409 There was a dog. that had white hair. 177 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:17.700 And the Sheriff's Department officers knew that some of the 178 00:12:17.940 --> 00:12:22.919 trash bags had contained white animal hair. And in addition, 179 00:12:23.059 --> 00:12:26.100 the carpet color was the same as some of the 180

00:12:26.139 --> 00:12:29.580 fibers found on some of the bags. So obviously, they 181 00:12:29.620 --> 00:12:30.539 want to follow that up. 182 00:12:31.700 --> 00:12:35.850 The white dog hair and blue carpet fibers led to 183 00:12:35.870 --> 00:12:37.970 the first breakthrough in the case. 184 00:12:39.009 --> 00:12:41.250 They took those back to the lab. to have them 185 00:12:41.289 --> 00:12:45.850 further analyzed more than just visually. And of course, there 186 00:12:45.889 --> 00:12:48.570 was a match with the carpet fibers and a match 187 00:12:48.590 --> 00:12:51.509 with the dog hair on, I think, two of the 188 00:12:51.570 --> 00:12:54.620 trash bags that were found with the bodies. 189 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.220 When detectives returned on the 19th of May, Dan Bukolsky 190 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.940 came along too. He was looking for evidence that could 191 00:13:05.019 --> 00:13:08.960 link the three bodies he'd been investigating to Kearney and Hill. 192 00:13:10.860 --> 00:13:14.139 but the couple weren't going to be as compliant this 193 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:15.000 time around. 194 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.860 We went to the house to execute the search warrant, 195 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.820 and when we got to the house, no one was home. 196 00:13:23.450 --> 00:13:26.889 It was obvious that both Patrick Carney and David Hill 197 00:13:26.929 --> 00:13:31.090 had fled. I believe that they felt the police officers 198 00:13:31.129 --> 00:13:32.210 were on to them. 199 00:13:34.070 --> 00:13:36.750 When this kind of individual is faced with a choice 200 00:13:36.809 --> 00:13:39.960 between fight or flight, stay or go, they are always 201 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.539 going to go. They will always flight because they want 202 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:45.639 to avoid confrontation at all costs because they simply do 203 00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:48.240 not have the skills to deal with that. So I'm 204 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.039 not surprised that Kearney ran at this point in time. 205 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:52.480 I think he was actually quite afraid. 206 00:13:53.460 --> 00:13:57.059 As the search of Kearney and Hill's house began in earnest, 207 00:13:57.500 --> 00:14:00.590 Dan was certain that he was in the home of 208 00:14:00.649 --> 00:14:01.769 a serial killer. 209 00:14:02.549 --> 00:14:05.779 When you're in that situation, There is a, this sounds 210 00:14:05.830 --> 00:14:08.309 a little bit funny, but there is some sort of 211 00:14:08.769 --> 00:14:11.929 atmosphere feeling when you walk in a house like that. 212 00:14:12.149 --> 00:14:14.029 I felt it, and I don't know whether that was 213 00:14:14.090 --> 00:14:19.450 my imagination, but we're looking at somebody that's pretty evil, 214 00:14:21.110 --> 00:14:24.720 pretty matter of fact about it, and when you believe 215 00:14:24.769 --> 00:14:27.159 that that house was probably the scene of a lot 216 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:33.750 of crimes, cruel, heartless crimes, It does give you a 217 00:14:33.769 --> 00:14:36.269 little bit of a buzz feeling when you go into 218 00:14:36.289 --> 00:14:36.950 that resonance. 219 00:14:36.990 --> 00:14:37.509 It did me. 220 00:14:39.169 --> 00:14:43.720 Evidence collected in a vacuum cleaner during the search linked Kearney, 221 00:14:43.909 --> 00:14:48.120 who worked as an engineer at nearby Hughes Aircraft, to 222 00:14:48.179 --> 00:14:50.620 the discarded and dismembered bodies. 223 00:14:52.059 --> 00:14:58.149 In the vacuum cleaner bag, there were found round plastic circles, 224 00:14:58.230 --> 00:15:04.309 thick plastic circles. Those circles matched the punch-outs from the 225 00:15:04.429 --> 00:15:11.029 commercial-grade garbage bag liners. The brand name was Mipro, and 226 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.879 it was an industrial bag, and it. 227 00:15:13.899 --> 00:15:15.419 Was used at Hughes Aircraft. 228 00:15:15.980 --> 00:15:19.399 Those plastic bags are unusual, and there was a supply 229 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:23.740 of those plastic bags in the attic at Patrick Carney's house. 230 00:15:25.370 --> 00:15:29.110 And it wasn't just circumstantial evidence that was discovered in 231 00:15:29.230 --> 00:15:31.889 Kearney and Hill's Redondo Beach home. 232 00:15:32.909 --> 00:15:34.950 In addition, there was a hacksaw blade. 233 00:15:36.490 --> 00:15:39.730 Looking normal and clean, but when it was taken apart 234 00:15:40.529 --> 00:15:43.769 and the nut and bolt were loosened, there was blood 235 00:15:44.149 --> 00:15:48.669 and human hair wedged in the part between the blade 236 00:15:48.830 --> 00:15:54.940 and the bolt. The bathroom was sprayed with luminol, and 237 00:15:55.059 --> 00:15:58.090 showed the presence of a lot of blood in the 238 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.149 bathtub and on the walls around the bathtub. So it 239 00:16:01.210 --> 00:16:05.129 appeared pretty quickly that at least one body, maybe more, 240 00:16:05.809 --> 00:16:09.830 were dismembered, disarticulated in the bathtub in the home of 241 00:16:09.870 --> 00:16:11.340 Patrick Kearney and David Hill. 242 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:16.379 Whether Kearney or Hill were involved or not, their home 243 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.919 was clearly a hotbed of evidence that linked them to 244 00:16:19.940 --> 00:16:21.240 the three murdered men. 245 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.679 It was obvious that there was physical evidence in that 246 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:28.820 house that linked the house with these bodies. There was 247 00:16:28.940 --> 00:16:34.470 nothing specifically that linked Patrick Carney himself or David Hill, 248 00:16:35.129 --> 00:16:38.409 but the house they lived in was definitely linked to 249 00:16:38.549 --> 00:16:39.320 all of these murders. 250 00:16:40.870 --> 00:16:45.389 A box of manila envelopes discovered at the house specifically 251 00:16:45.509 --> 00:16:49.250 linked Hill and Kearney to another trash bag killer victim, 252 00:16:49.700 -->

00:16:54.220 Arturo Marquez, whose body had been discovered in Riverside County 253 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:59.840 in March 1977. Bizarrely, the killer had sent mail to 254 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:00.840 his victim's home. 255 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:06.150 The criminalist was able to opine that that thick yellow 256 00:17:06.230 --> 00:17:10.509 cardboard envelope likely came from this box, which was found 257 00:17:10.549 --> 00:17:16.430 in Patrick Carney's house. That envelope had been used to 258 00:17:16.509 --> 00:17:25.660 mail car keys back to the Marquez family. Because when 259 00:17:25.700 --> 00:17:29.380 Patrick Carney killed him, he had possession of the car 260 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:34.380 and the keys. And being a good citizen, he mailed 261 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:35.259 the keys back. 262 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.099 Now, this would appear to be a really bizarre thing 263 00:17:39.140 --> 00:17:41.480 to do, but this is a killer who likes order. 264 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.109 He likes to know exactly where things are and what's 265 00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:48.309 going on with them, so he's not the kind of 266 00:17:48.329 --> 00:17:50.690 person who could just throw these keys away in a 267 00:17:50.750 --> 00:17:51.470 bin somewhere. 268 00:17:52.470 --> 00:17:56.970 Investigators were sure they had found the killer, but Patrick 269 00:17:57.049 --> 00:18:00.789 Kearney and his partner, David Hill, were nowhere to be found. 270 00:18:01.549 --> 00:18:05.950 They'd fled over 800 miles away to Texas, but they 271 00:18:05.990 --> 00:18:07.569 wouldn't be gone for long. 272 00:18:08.710 --> 00:18:13.859 After the all points bulletin was issued, he was on a, 273 00:18:14.049 --> 00:18:16.250 I believe he was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. 274 00:18:18.109 --> 00:18:19.069 There was a lot of publicity. 275 00:18:19.089 --> 00:18:23.839 These pictures of David Hill and Patrick Carney were published everywhere. 276 00:18:25.380 --> 00:18:30.240 Within months, They both walked into the Riverside County Sheriff's 277 00:18:30.259 --> 00:18:33.299 Department and turned themselves in to the watch sergeant. 278 00:18:34.220 --> 00:18:38.880 Kearney and Hill's return to California was an unexpected turn 279 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:39.539 of events. 280 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:40.819 Well, I was surprised. 281 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:42.759 I was in my office, and I got a phone 282 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.029 call from the Sheriff's Department and say, well, Patrick Kearney 283 00:18:45.049 --> 00:18:45.460 walked in. 284 00:18:45.950 --> 00:18:48.240 Come on over. You need to interview him. 285 00:18:49.190 --> 00:18:52.470 So I went over to the Sheriff's Department, got a 286 00:18:52.490 --> 00:18:54.329 tape recorder, and interviewed him. 287 00:18:55.990 --> 00:19:01.210 On the 1st of July, 1977, Kearney was arrested. He 288 00:19:01.269 --> 00:19:05.190 told police that his partner, David Hill, was completely innocent 289 00:19:05.509 --> 00:19:06.289 of any crimes. 290 00:19:07.549 --> 00:19:09.589 We don't know what he's going to say or whether 291 00:19:09.650 --> 00:19:11.740 he's going to blame it on someone else or deny it. 292 00:19:12.769 --> 00:19:16.509 So I was focusing my interview on going to his background, 293 00:19:16.609 --> 00:19:19.089 finding out about him, what caused him to do it, 294 00:19:19.210 --> 00:19:20.190 why he turned himself in. 295 00:19:21.259 --> 00:19:25.200 But Dan and the Riverside County detectives had no idea 296 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:30.009 just how prolific a killer they had arrested. Patrick Kearney's 297 00:19:30.109 --> 00:19:32.289 next statement would stun them all. 298 00:19:32.890 --> 00:19:35.049 I asked him, well, how many people have you killed? 299 00:19:35.250 --> 00:19:40.269 And he said, I don't know, but more than 30. 300 00:19:40.269 --> 00:19:44.269 Patrick Kearney told the investigators that he'd been killing for 301 00:19:44.470 --> 00:19:50.650 over a decade, since 1962. The twisted killer detailed each 302 00:19:50.710 --> 00:19:55.329 of the murders, including taking the life of 17-year-old John 303 00:19:55.390 --> 00:19:59.490 LeMay in March 1977. 304 00:19:59.789 --> 00:20:02.750 When I know that Patrick Kearney picked up John from 305 00:20:02.769 --> 00:20:06.960 my house in El Segundo and drove him to his 306 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:12.440 own home in Redondo Beach, where apparently he was watching TV, 307 00:20:12.769 --> 00:20:17.250 and apparently John had changed the channel. Patrick Kearney didn't 308 00:20:17.289 --> 00:20:19.230 like that, so he shot him in the back of 309 00:20:19.269 --> 00:20:19.609 the head. 310 00:20:21.309 --> 00:20:24.599 Kearney told detectives how his father had taught him to 311 00:20:24.670 --> 00:20:28.819 shoot as a child, so accustomed to using a gun, 312 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:33.500 an execution-style method of killing had become his trademark. 313 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.880 From there proceeded to like every other victim dismember him 314 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:44.359 in the bathtub and all but his hands and his 315 00:20:44.420 --> 00:20:48.200 head because Patrick Kearney very smart knew that's how they 316 00:20:48.220 --> 00:20:53.880 could identify this body when he would you know dump 317 00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:57.970 it and so he put the body parts in bags 318 00:20:58.150 --> 00:21:03.299 apparently drove them out to Corona and then they were placed, 319 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.700 I believe, in a trash can at some park. 320 00:21:08.740 --> 00:21:11.559 This victim was only 17 years old, and he was 321 00:21:11.740 --> 00:21:14.539 one of seven children. So this is going to have 322 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.069 a really devastating impact on this family dynamic. This is 323 00:21:18.109 --> 00:21:21.829 a very significant point in somebody's life. So to have 324 00:21:21.869 --> 00:21:24.990 this individual taken out of your family picture

by this 325 00:21:25.369 --> 00:21:28.309 sadistic serial killer is something that is going to affect 326 00:21:28.509 --> 00:21:29.190 all members. 327 00:21:28.970 --> 00:21:29.569 Of that family. 328 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.740 News of Kearney's arrest brought some semblance of peace to 329 00:21:34.779 --> 00:21:35.779 the LeMay family. 330 00:21:36.460 --> 00:21:38.940 When I heard that, again, from all the fears of 331 00:21:39.019 --> 00:21:41.700 a little girl, feeling like, okay, they're going to come 332 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.480 get us, they got him, so they know where we live, 333 00:21:44.539 --> 00:21:51.059 and just that brought peace, that, okay, he's, we're safe. 334 00:21:52.259 --> 00:21:56.049 Detectives were only just beginning to learn about the sadistic 335 00:21:56.150 --> 00:22:00.089 life of Patrick Kearney, and the killer's confessions would shock 336 00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:01.339 them to the core. 337 00:22:04.059 --> 00:22:06.380 Interviewing people like that, you look right into the eye 338 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:09.329 of someone who can talk like that, knowing what they did. 339 00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:12.109 It's a sobering experience. 340 00:22:13.549 --> 00:22:17.650 After handing himself in, Kearney had stunned the interrogators by 341 00:22:17.690 --> 00:22:21.349 confessing to at least 30 murders across the previous 15 years. 342 00:22:21.390 --> 00:22:23.569 But was the 37-year-old engineer telling the truth? 343 00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:30.619 You want to make sure that you are focusing in 344 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.349 on hard facts and not just fantasy. 345 00:22:33.390 --> 00:22:35.130 Maybe he's seeking attention or something. 346 00:22:36.009 --> 00:22:41.549 Kearney confessed to killing a man in his apartment in 1968. 347 00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:43.589 Dan pressed for more details. 348 00:22:44.450 --> 00:22:47.710 And he said, I don't remember his name. How did 349 00:22:47.730 --> 00:22:50.130 you kill him? I shot him in the head with a. 350 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:50.190 22. 351 00:22:50.190 --> 00:22:55.480 What did you do with the body? Well, I cut 352 00:22:55.539 --> 00:22:55.740 it up. 353 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.640 And small pieces, and I put it in a box, 354 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.309 and I put it underneath the apartment building I lived in. 355 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:11.690 Kearney continued to describe gruesome details of how he'd removed 356 00:23:11.710 --> 00:23:14.250 the evidence from his poor victim's head. 357 00:23:14.910 --> 00:23:19.200 He was sufficiently aware, ballistically, that he knew that if 358 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.960 he left the bullet, someone might find it and trace 359 00:23:23.019 --> 00:23:26.279 it back to the gun. And so Kearney took a 360 00:23:26.380 --> 00:23:29.849 hacksaw to the dead man's head to retrieve the bullet. 361 00:23:31.309 --> 00:23:34.329 Kearney drew a map of exactly where he'd left the 362 00:23:34.390 --> 00:23:39.279 remains

over a decade before. While the interview continued, Dan 363 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:44.460 instructed the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department to search underneath the garage. 364 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.140 And they go to that department complex, and they're there 365 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.390 within an hour, and they retrieve a box with a 366 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.019 bunch of bones in it, a human skeleton that's been 367 00:23:56.099 --> 00:24:00.400 cut up. And the skull has a hole in it 368 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.990 consistent with a. 22 caliber bullet. And you can see 369 00:24:04.009 --> 00:24:07.690 the hacksaw blade marks in the skull. So before we 370 00:24:07.730 --> 00:24:11.829 finished the interview, we had confirmation that this guy is 371 00:24:11.849 --> 00:24:12.430 telling the truth. 372 00:24:13.650 --> 00:24:17.309 The unidentified skeleton in the box was just one of 373 00:24:17.410 --> 00:24:21.700 Kearney's many victims. The vicious killer had been active for 374 00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:27.500 15 years. He told investigators how he targeted hitchhikers along 375 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.039 the Southern California road network. 376 00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:34.380 The victims were alone. They were hitchhiking. They were quite 377 00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:37.250 easy to prey on. Kearney had access. 378 00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:38.509 He had opportunity. 379 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.079 And I think there was some echoes of his own 380 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.180 victimization as a child and as a young man here. 381 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.819 So it's almost like he's trying to rewrite his own 382 00:24:46.859 --> 00:24:50.380 history here. He's putting himself in the role of the aggressor, 383 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.559 I think perhaps to step into the shoes of those 384 00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:56.920 who bullied and victimized him. So that's quite interesting for me. 385 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:03.259 By the 15th of July, 1977, Patrick Kearney had confessed 386 00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:07.119 to killing 32 young men and boys. One of his 387 00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:12.640 many revelations included the story of 21-year-old Larry Walters, a 388 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.809 mechanic who was living in the town of Hawthorne just 389 00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:20.240 north of Redondo Beach in 1975. 390 00:25:20.769 --> 00:25:25.470 Although Larry was our older brother, we were really his 391 00:25:25.529 --> 00:25:28.869 older sisters because he was mentally slow. So at the 392 00:25:28.930 --> 00:25:32.210 age of 21, Larry had the mentality of maybe an 393 00:25:32.309 --> 00:25:36.759 eight to 10 year old child. He was not very streetwise. 394 00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:43.059 Larry was at his most content when he was surrounded 395 00:25:43.339 --> 00:25:44.079 by family. 396 00:25:45.500 --> 00:25:48.559 Larry was a very, very happy person, but we were 397 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.450 very protective over him because He believed anything you told him. 398 00:25:53.769 --> 00:25:59.369 He trusted everybody. We had to watch over him to 399 00:25:59.430 --> 00:26:02.950 make sure that he didn't, you know, that people didn't 400 00:26:02.990 --> 00:26:03.920 take advantage of him. 401 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:09.319 Karen vividly remembers the week Larry went missing in late 402 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:11.940 October 1975. 403 00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:14.579 He just worked down at the end of the block 404 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.859 from where I lived. And he had been coming to 405 00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:19.960 my house every day at noon on his lunch hour 406 00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:23.890 because he was waiting for some checks that were being 407 00:26:23.910 --> 00:26:27.049 mailed to him, money owed to him. He had just 408 00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:30.569 wrecked his car two weeks before. And I said to him, 409 00:26:32.150 --> 00:26:37.519 instead of going home tonight after work, why don't you 410 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.420 just stay at my house tonight, get up in the 411 00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:41.640 morning and go to work, and that way you don't 412 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:42.299 have to hitchhike. 413 00:26:43.250 --> 00:26:46.470 As Karen headed out to a Halloween party, she had 414 00:26:46.589 --> 00:26:49.299 no idea it would be the last time she would 415 00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:50.180 see her brother. 416 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:54.140 The last day that I saw Larry, he was upbeat, 417 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.680 nothing out of the norm, said he'd see me the 418 00:26:57.740 --> 00:27:01.960 next day. And we went to the party, and when 419 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.829 we got home, it's like 3 in the morning, my 420 00:27:04.869 --> 00:27:08.210 lights were on, my TV was on, my house was 421 00:27:08.269 --> 00:27:11.170 in a little disarray, and Larry was very neat and clean. 422 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.400 And so I thought, well, he just ran out for 423 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:14.700 a minute. 424 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:15.259 He'll be back. 425 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.279 So we just went to bed thinking everything was fine. 426 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.390 The following morning when Karen woke, it seemed that Larry 427 00:27:24.650 --> 00:27:26.170 had already left for work. 428 00:27:27.309 --> 00:27:31.589 Later on that morning, the mail came and his checks came. 429 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.940 And so he didn't come at lunchtime. And he had 430 00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:39.130 come every day that week at lunch. And so... I 431 00:27:39.309 --> 00:27:40.809 went down to his work at the end of the 432 00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:42.569 corner and his boss told me he didn't show up 433 00:27:42.609 --> 00:27:46.329 for work. And so we knew something was up, but 434 00:27:46.430 --> 00:27:48.950 I thought, did he go out with some friends and 435 00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:52.130 just didn't sleep and didn't go to work? 436 00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:57.170 The

following morning, however, there was still no word from Larry. 437 00:27:57.190 --> 00:28:00.589 The next morning, my mother called me and said Larry 438 00:28:00.630 --> 00:28:03.349 was supposed to have come today and he didn't. And 439 00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:07.390 then we knew something was wrong. So my mother went 440 00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:14.109 and filed a... missing persons in that area. And then 441 00:28:14.150 --> 00:28:14.609 we waited. 442 00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:20.470 This poor family suffered for two years not knowing what 443 00:28:20.529 --> 00:28:24.549 happened to Larry. And it was only when Kearney confessed 444 00:28:24.650 --> 00:28:26.789 in 1977 that they actually. 445 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:27.279 Knew what happened. 446 00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:32.200 The day that the police contacted my mother and said 447 00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:34.059 they needed to speak to me because I was the 448 00:28:34.099 --> 00:28:38.420 last one to see him, they wanted to get my 449 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.680 story of and corroborate it with what Kearney had told them. 450 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.029 Kearney had told the investigators exactly what had happened to 451 00:28:48.069 --> 00:28:51.170 Larry Walters on that fateful Halloween night. 452 00:28:52.450 --> 00:28:56.609 Larry is used to hitchhiking, and so perfectly prepared to 453 00:28:56.650 --> 00:29:02.470 accept a lift from this mild-mannered, ordinary-looking little man, Kearney 454 00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:07.240 drives him back to his house in Redondo Beach. But 455 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:13.119 Larry has underestimated the man who's picked him up. Tragically, 456 00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:20.920 Kearney shoots him in the head and kills him. 457 00:29:20.940 --> 00:29:24.529 I remember the police, after all of the questions they 458 00:29:24.609 --> 00:29:28.670 asked me, asking me, do you have any questions? And 459 00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:31.049 I said, yes, I have just one. And my mom 460 00:29:31.089 --> 00:29:34.269 knew what it was going to be. And she left 461 00:29:34.309 --> 00:29:40.339 the room. Begging me not to ask it. And the 462 00:29:40.410 --> 00:29:42.339 officer told me, I know what you want to know. 463 00:29:42.579 --> 00:29:48.519 Did he suffer? And I said, yes. And he said, no, 464 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.579 Larry never knew anything from start to finish. 465 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:54.299 And I have to believe that. 466 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.119 It wasn't like he was in a car accident or 467 00:30:00.269 --> 00:30:03.170 that he was in the hospital. We could say our goodbyes. 468 00:30:07.750 --> 00:30:10.829 When I saw him on Friday, I didn't know it 469 00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:11.710 was the last time. 470 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.819 The body of 21-year-old Larry Walters has never been found. 471 00:30:21.380 --> 00:30:24.539 The family haven't been able to say goodbye because they 472 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.109 don't have a body. And this is really significant for 473 00:30:27.150 --> 00:30:30.289 me because Kearney is an offender who is incredibly organised. 474 00:30:30.430 --> 00:30:33.430 He knows exactly where this body is. But I think 475 00:30:33.490 --> 00:30:36.289 he's not going to reveal the location of it because 476 00:30:36.349 --> 00:30:39.819 bodies tell stories. They tell us what happened in regards 477 00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.740 to a particular murder. And there is something about this 478 00:30:42.779 --> 00:30:45.480 story that Kearney does not want out in the open. 479 00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:49.029 and that's really significant for me, but it's really significant 480 00:30:49.049 --> 00:30:51.369 for the family as well because they will continue to 481 00:30:51.430 --> 00:30:53.970 suffer whilst he still retains his information. 482 00:30:55.420 --> 00:31:01.339 During the police interview, Kearney unashamedly detailed his perverse necrophilia. 483 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.059 After he shot them in the head, he would cut 484 00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:08.349 a hole in them and have sexual intercourse with their 485 00:31:08.369 --> 00:31:11.130 bodies because he felt empowered by it. 486 00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:14.839 This is a killer who is a lot more comfortable 487 00:31:14.859 --> 00:31:16.960 with the dead than he is with the living because 488 00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:20.819 the dead are easier to control. They cannot insult you. 489 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.160 They can't reject you. They can't make you feel bad 490 00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:23.839 about yourself. 491 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:29.700 The nefarious killer appeared to display no shame during his confessions. 492 00:31:31.170 --> 00:31:33.349 You would be able to have a conversation with him 493 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:36.569 sitting here and talk about a lot of things and 494 00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:41.519 never have an inkling that there's something wrong There's something 495 00:31:41.619 --> 00:31:44.319 weird about this guy. You would not get that feeling 496 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:44.920 with this man. 497 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.859 There were no tears running down his cheeks. There was 498 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:56.400 no remorse. There was no empathy for the victims. There 499 00:31:56.420 --> 00:32:01.380 was absolutely no understanding of the pain he'd caused their families. 500 00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:06.569 Absolutely blank. And I think that's how he got away 501 00:32:07.049 --> 00:32:10.430 with hiding in plain sight for all those years. 502 00:32:12.589 --> 00:32:16.789 Once Kearney's confession was done, investigators had to try and 503 00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:20.539 link the killer's confessions to actual missing persons. 504 00:32:21.180 --> 00:32:23.839 Well, it took a long time to interview him and 505 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.759 get all of his stories correct. And then the law 506 00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:35.829 enforcement contacted other jurisdictions, in other words, to try to

507 00:32:35.869 --> 00:32:39.789 match up his stories with actual bodies or missing persons, 508 00:32:40.710 --> 00:32:43.450 that work went on for some length of time. 509 00:32:44.099 --> 00:32:49.180 In December 1977, Patrick Kearney pleaded guilty to the murder 510 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.059 of the three men whose bodies had been found in 511 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:59.500 Riverside County. Arturo Marquez, John LeMay, and 21-year-old Albert Rivera. 512 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.119 Despite sharing a home with his partner for nine years, 513 00:33:04.539 --> 00:33:07.519 a house where human blood had been found, it was 514 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:11.400 Kearney who and Kearney alone, who was charged with the murders. 515 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.089 When we took the case and presented this physical evidence, 516 00:33:15.289 --> 00:33:18.990 the confession, and the testimony to the grand jury, they 517 00:33:19.029 --> 00:33:20.950 did not indict David Hill, and he. 518 00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:21.450 Was let free. 519 00:33:23.250 --> 00:33:27.390 Kearney was sentenced to life in prison, but investigators hadn't 520 00:33:27.430 --> 00:33:31.910 finished with him yet. In February 1978, he was charged 521 00:33:31.950 --> 00:33:36.130 with a further 18 killings in neighboring Los Angeles County. 522 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.900 Deputy DA John Braul led the prosecution against the so-called 523 00:33:42.269 --> 00:33:43.369 trash bag killer. 524 00:33:44.619 --> 00:33:47.710 When I took over the case, Mr. Kearney had already 525 00:33:47.730 --> 00:33:51.450 been arrested and it was just tying all the loose 526 00:33:51.529 --> 00:33:55.650 ends together and assimilating all the information so that we 527 00:33:55.710 --> 00:33:56.750 had a fileable case. 528 00:33:57.710 --> 00:34:01.289 Kearney had already confessed to the murders and the evidence 529 00:34:01.349 --> 00:34:05.470 against him was strong. Investigators had found a link between 530 00:34:05.509 --> 00:34:08.849 the killer and a number of his victims, a very 531 00:34:08.909 --> 00:34:14.030 specific item that was readily available to the 38-year-old engineer. 532 00:34:14.750 --> 00:34:18.150 The police officers tied Patrick to these cases because of 533 00:34:18.210 --> 00:34:20.679 the type of tape he used to wrap his victims in. 534 00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:24.739 After he killed the victims, he cut them up, wrapped 535 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.139 them in plastic bags, and then wrap those bags with 536 00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:32.030 a very distinctive tape that's only used in one place 537 00:34:32.070 --> 00:34:34.929 in Southern California, and that's at Hughes Aircraft. 538 00:34:36.030 --> 00:34:40.050 Kearney had taken the distinctive tape and trash bags he 539 00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:43.269 used to dispose of his victims' bodies from his place 540 00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:46.380 of work. It was also where he'd spotted one of 541 00:34:46.420 --> 00:34:50.980 his youngest victims. For a seasoned prosecutor like John, the 542 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.019 heartbreaking story of the 8-year-old boy who lost his life 543 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.880 at the hands of Patrick Kearney was the one that 544 00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:58.519 stood out. 545 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.260 The case I remember most, it was a little different 546 00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:06.829 than the other cases. It's Mero Hondo Chance. Chance was 547 00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:09.869 riding his bicycle in the parking lot at Hughes Aircraft 548 00:35:09.909 --> 00:35:12.869 and had a problem. Patrick Wayne Kearney came out and 549 00:35:12.949 --> 00:35:15.590 saw and tried to help him. He eventually put the 550 00:35:15.630 --> 00:35:17.969 bicycle in the back of the pickup truck that he 551 00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:21.380 used in the other murders, drove him to a bike 552 00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:23.460 shop at the corner of Washington. 553 00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:25.420 And Sepulveda Boulevards, got the. 554 00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:28.219 Bike fixed, took him down for a hamburger and shake 555 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.809 at the hamburger stand next to Tito's Tacos at the 556 00:35:31.849 --> 00:35:33.849 corner of Washington and Sepulveda. 557 00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:41.099 Boulevards, And Kearney adds a little extra piquant something to 558 00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:44.920 the invitation. He tells the boy, I tell you what, 559 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.699 one day I'll take you to Disneyland. The boy must 560 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.340 have been thrilled. 561 00:35:51.699 --> 00:35:54.900 But Kearney had no intention of taking Morell to a 562 00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:59.179 theme park. Unlike his other victims, Kearney didn't kill the 563 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.769 eight-year-old for sexual gratifications. He killed Muriel Hondo Chance because 564 00:36:04.809 --> 00:36:06.789 he was worried about getting caught. 565 00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:09.570 He was with him for a period of time, for 566 00:36:09.610 --> 00:36:15.010 a couple of hours. And in Patrick Wayne Kearney's mind, 567 00:36:15.309 --> 00:36:20.809 he had said or intimated enough information to Hondo Chance 568 00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:26.489 that if Muriel Hondo Chance spoke to anyone about that, 569 00:36:26.969 --> 00:36:29.829 the police officers would find out and know that Patrick 570 00:36:29.849 --> 00:36:33.800 Wayne Kearney was the killer. and that's why he killed 571 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:35.159 Muriel Hondo Chance. 572 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.710 As the prosecution were processing the paperwork for 18 murders, 573 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:45.449 including that of Muriel Hondo Chance, Patrick Kearney, just as 574 00:36:45.489 --> 00:36:49.650 he had in Riverside County, decided not to contest any 575 00:36:49.829 --> 00:36:50.570 of the charges. 576 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:57.039 At the preliminary hearing in Los Angeles, the municipal judge 577 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.619

asked him why he'd done it. The families of the 578 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.300 victims want to know why. Can you tell us why? 579 00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:11.119 And Kearney said, and I quote precisely, I'd prefer not to. 580 00:37:12.610 --> 00:37:15.690 I don't think he was ashamed. I don't think he 581 00:37:15.730 --> 00:37:18.769 was embarrassed by this. It was just a matter of fact. 582 00:37:19.289 --> 00:37:20.989 He might as well have been talking about living on 583 00:37:21.010 --> 00:37:27.110 a farm and, you know, killing your cow and steers 584 00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:33.269 and pigs for food. He just had no emotion about it. 585 00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:39.219 It soon became clear that Patrick Kearney pleaded guilty to 586 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.340 protect his partner, David Hill. 587 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.659 Patrick Wayne Kearney did not go to trial because he 588 00:37:45.699 --> 00:37:48.800 made a deal that the DA's office would not seek 589 00:37:48.820 --> 00:37:52.610 the death penalty if we did not go after his 590 00:37:52.710 --> 00:37:58.000 roommate on any of these charges. Patrick pled guilty to 591 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.679 21 counts first degree murder with use. That also would 592 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.559 merge with the three counts from Riverside. They all, after 593 00:38:06.619 --> 00:38:10.340 he was sentenced, merged by law into one count of murder. 594 00:38:11.860 --> 00:38:15.780 We will never know for certain how many people Kearney killed. 595 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.699 What we can say with some degree of certainty is 596 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:25.190 that there were probably more than 21 victims. Chillingly, Even 597 00:38:25.250 --> 00:38:28.750 the killer couldn't remember how many people he'd killed. 598 00:38:29.849 --> 00:38:34.289 Kearney's admission of sole responsibility for the death of 21 599 00:38:34.289 --> 00:38:38.610 people meant that his victims' families may never truly know 600 00:38:38.969 --> 00:38:41.349 what really happened to their loved ones. 601 00:38:42.389 --> 00:38:46.030 I would like to have seen Kearney pilloried in court, 602 00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:49.820 not least for the benefit of the victims' families. 603 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.159 They were airbrushed out of the story. 604 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:54.139 Yes. 605 00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:58.210 I know there were a lot of them, but many 606 00:38:58.250 --> 00:39:01.190 of them felt they had been denied, cheated out of 607 00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:02.110 their day in court. 608 00:39:04.389 --> 00:39:06.750 As ever, Kearney was. 609 00:39:06.670 --> 00:39:13.500 Manipulative, deceitful, and denied them their right. It was truly despicable. 610 00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:18.199 But the fact that Kearney was behind bars was a 611 00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:21.760 sweet relief for Patricia, the mother of John LeMay. 612 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.659 I remember her saying that the greatest comfort that she 613 00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:30.739 takes from John's death is that John, is the one 614 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.159 that caught Patrick Kearney and that he could do it 615 00:39:35.219 --> 00:39:38.300 no more. And it seemed like that was what really 616 00:39:38.340 --> 00:39:41.510 gave her peace of mind and heart, that she came 617 00:39:41.550 --> 00:39:45.429 to grips with that, that, you know, if it meant 618 00:39:45.590 --> 00:39:49.050 for no one else to be killed, almost like a sacrifice, 619 00:39:49.070 --> 00:39:49.929 then so be it. 620 00:39:51.409 --> 00:39:54.469 It had been a tough journey for the family members 621 00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:56.599 of many of the other victims. 622 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.760 When he was spoken of as one of the victims, 623 00:40:00.940 --> 00:40:04.460 they would say John LeMay and 20 others, and our 624 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.159 brother was never really mentioned, and we feel like he 625 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.000 fell under the radar and he mattered. Larry was sweet 626 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:20.530 and kind and innocent, and he fell victim to somebody 627 00:40:20.550 --> 00:40:24.389 that we consider evil. And we don't want to be here, 628 00:40:24.690 --> 00:40:28.369 but we think it's important for everybody to know who 629 00:40:28.409 --> 00:40:30.309 these people were that we lost. 630 00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:36.570 So it's difficult, but it's important. 631 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.519 I think having to rely on your loved one's killer 632 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.019 for the narrative, for the story of a murder is 633 00:40:47.059 --> 00:40:51.699 really devastating because They have control over that narrative. The 634 00:40:51.739 --> 00:40:54.579 victim has been silenced. They can't tell their side of 635 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.000 the story. This is something I come across in a 636 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.119 lot of cases where there's a no-body murder. You are 637 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.980 completely reliant on the testimony of the serial killer, and 638 00:41:04.019 --> 00:41:06.119 as we know, they are wholly unreliable. 639 00:41:08.909 --> 00:41:13.730 Patrick Kearney robbed the Walters family of a lifetime of memories. 640 00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:21.179 Fondest memory of probably one of the last pictures I 641 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.679 have with him is holding my daughter on Easter of 642 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.019 the year he died with her Easter basket she was 643 00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:31.320 a year old and him just smiling. 644 00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:39.449 We want people to hear Larry Gene Walters we want 645 00:41:39.489 --> 00:41:41.389 them to know he was important. 646 00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:51.699 Patrick Kearney is currently serving life at Mule Creek State 647 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:56.769 Prison in California. The killer confessed to 32 murders during 648 00:41:56.829 --> 00:42:03.170 his initial interrogation in July 1977. So investigators are certain 649 00:42:03.469 --> 00:42:06.610 that he is guilty of more than just the 21 650 00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:08.349 killings he was convicted of. 651 00:42:09.269 --> 00:42:12.289 If Kearney hadn't been caught, he would have gone on 652 00:42:12.789 --> 00:42:19.250 and on and on. Serial killers never stop. They escalate, 653 00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:23.449 and Kearney was a perfect example of that. 654 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.139 I remember a lot of my cases, but obviously this 655 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:34.619 was the most number of dead bodies that I ever handled, 656 00:42:35.659 --> 00:42:38.119 and that's probably the reason I remember it. 657 00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:45.809 His lack of emotion, his matter-of-fact attitude, and kind of 658 00:42:45.849 --> 00:42:47.170 a shrug of his shoulder accepting it. 659 00:42:47.989 --> 00:42:54.360 To me, that's real evil. I can still see him. 660 00:42:55.380 --> 00:42:57.800 If I think about him in my mind's eye, I 661 00:42:57.860 --> 00:42:59.699 can still picture him as he appeared then. 662 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:01.639 You won't forget something like that. 663 00:43:05.460 --> 00:43:09.269 Kearney was a callous killer who terminated the life of 664 00:43:09.309 --> 00:43:13.070 his innocent victims for nothing more than his own perverse 665 00:43:13.170 --> 00:43:17.099 sexual pleasure. We may never know how many young men 666 00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:21.570 he picked up and murdered, but his cold-hearted confession proves 667 00:43:21.610 --> 00:43:25.550 that he had no remorse for them whatsoever, which makes 668 00:43:25.650 --> 00:43:29.389 Patrick Kearney one of the world's most evil killers.