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So the first question is, in the context of like
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Mount Kilimanjaro, but also in everyday life, there's so many,
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I think, ingredients that probably go into like success or
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like getting to the summit. Why was confidence the thing
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that you've honed in on?
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Because I realized how much I struggled with self-doubt, that
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I questioned everything I did on a regular basis. And
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the biggest thing I realized is that I always thought
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confidence was something other people had and I just didn't.
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But it's not.
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It doesn't work that way. It's a skill like any
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other skill. It's a skill that you build. You don't
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go to the gym one time and become buff, although
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that would be amazing.
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That doesn't happen.
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So but that's the same thing with mindset. It's the
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same thing with confidence is that it is. something that
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you work on all the time. And a lot of
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times we'll look at other people and say, oh my gosh,
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they're so confident. And sometimes they are, sometimes they're not.
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Sometimes like they have this facade up. And that was
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me for a long time. My friends thought that I
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was super confident that I had it all together. But
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I didn't cry for years because I thought if I cried,
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like it would all fall apart, right? And so that
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for me is why I really focused on that because
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I knew that that was something that I really struggled with.
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Welcome to Her Unshakable Confidence. I'm Simone Canego.
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And I'm Olivia Canego.
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Each week, we have honest conversations about confidence, self-doubt, and
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the moments in life that shape who we become.
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Some weeks, we talk with inspiring guests.
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In other weeks, it's just the two of us sharing
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what we're learning along the way.
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So pull up a chair.
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And join the conversation.
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This is Her Unshakable Confidence. Simone, I am so proud
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of you.
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Thank you.
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I am so proud of you.
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No one realizes until they begin the publishing journey how
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much work goes into doing what you just did. And
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it is not glamorous. It's not always fun. There are
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a lot of fun moments. This is a fun moment.
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There's so much that goes in behind the scenes. And
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you consistently, we all always talk about how you are
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just such a model author because you lead with heart.
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You lead with purpose and impact. But then you put
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in the work. And you're not afraid to put in
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the work. And you're not afraid to be teachable and
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to learn. So I want to begin by asking, how.
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Do you feel? Oh, I feel amazing. I mean, yeah.
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I mean, it was a ton of work. But it
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was worth it, right? You don't know until the end.
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Like the night before, the Tuesday night, I had a
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dream that I didn't make the list. And then I
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had another one that I did make the list. And
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it's not about the list. That's an amazing piece of it,
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but it's really about the impact that I can have
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on other people and the power of words. And for me,
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that's so important. I didn't realize that for a long time. Again,
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I'm someone who really struggled with self-doubt. I had some
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really tough experiences in my life. But being able to
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share the things that I've gone through and being able
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to inspire other women is one of the most powerful
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things in the world for me.
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Yeah, and now we officially have a mistake on the
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cover because it doesn't have the USA Today bestseller logo.
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So let me just explain for a moment what that
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bestseller list means. It means that Simone's book was one
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of the top 150 in the U.S. last week, and
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she hit number 35. Which is insane.
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And I also want to just take a moment to
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shout out Isla.
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Can you raise your hand?
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I call
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Isla the wizard behind the curtain, helping on
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all of the strategy to make that possible. And then
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Rory and AJ, if you could just raise your hands.
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Rory and AJ are the founders of Brand Builders Group,
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which is the owners of this building. If you are
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associated with BBG in any way, I'm a proud member.
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We love the BBG community, which has helped us. Helps
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on personal brand strategy and so much of that is
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author strategy. So just so much gratitude for you guys
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and it really takes a village. I want to begin
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also with this picture on the cover of a mountain.
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So we really focused on this idea of Kilimanjaro because
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confidence is kind of a mountain that we climb in
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our lives and that really is a metaphor throughout the book.
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Talk to us about why that moment of climbing Kilimanjaro,
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no big deal, What signified you stepping forward into your
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own confidence?
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So I was 42 years old when I climbed Kilimanjaro.
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I'm 53 now. And when I was asked to do it,
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I said yes.
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Actually, the way the story.
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Went is a friend of ours had climbed it the
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year before. He asked my husband if he was interested
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in doing it. And my husband, this is how I
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tell the story, one, two, three, no, thank you, call Simone.
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Okay.
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He's like, that's not exactly how, I was like, it's
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my story. So they, and he did, he called me
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and I said, yes. I mean, I had never climbed
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anything before.
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I live in Florida at sea level.
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I have 16 steps in my house and that's about
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as good.
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I had gone camping twice.
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And so this was really getting out of my comfort zone.
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And that's such a big piece about building confidence is
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taking action, right? You don't wait until you feel ready
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to do something, right? I mean, I say that waiting
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until you feel ready is like waiting
for IKEA instructions
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to actually make sense. That is not going to happen.
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So yeah, I was asked to do it, and I
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said yes. And it's very interesting, the feedback I got
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from a lot of people. And that's where I learned
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to really dig deep with myself, because I feel bad
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I have my back to you the whole time.
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Make it to the top. No, I'm going to make
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it halfway. Thank you so much for asking. The other
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thing I got was, don't you feel like it's really selfish?
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I have six children. We didn't talk about that yet,
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but I have six children. And don't you think it's
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really selfish to leave your six kids at home while
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you go do something for yourself, while you go climb
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a mountain?
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And I said, well, self-care is never selfish.
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And what a great thing for my kids to see
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that you can accomplish anything you want to when you
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put in the work. And so it was a huge
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moment for me when not just reaching the summit, but
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the taking action piece and really realizing what I was
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capable of. Because for so long, I was waiting for
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that external validation, waiting for other people to tell me
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that I was good enough.
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I have an amazing husband. We've been married almost 33 years.
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And I realized that, yes, he says great stuff to
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me all the time, but I need to see it
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within myself. I need to feel it for myself. not
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waiting for someone else to tell me what I'm capable of.
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And that was that moment for me where I was like, yes.
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I did this. I did this. And it wasn't based
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on anybody else.
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And that was a big moment for me, learning that
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I don't need to listen to what anybody else is saying.
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If I'm being a good human and doing good things,
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the rest of it doesn't matter.
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Now, one of the things that Brand Builders does twice
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a year is a speaker showcase.
And Simone spoke at
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the very first speaker showcase And Rory told me she
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was the funniest speaker that brand builders ever had because
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of one story about a certain, I'm sorry, we just
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have to go there.
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It's in the book as well.
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Can you tell us about- I didn't bring my prop
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with me, but okay.
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Can you tell us about what happened on the mountain?
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So, first of all, it's very cold, okay? So you
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have to wear multiple layers. Every time you have to
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go to the bathroom, it's a big pain in the
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butt because you gotta take everything off. But no, you
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actually don't because- A friend of mine informed me about
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this special little tool called the Shiwi P-Funnel. And so basically,
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I didn't have to take my pants down. I felt like, wow,
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look how empowered I am.
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I can write my name in the snow. And I did.
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And I did.
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A bright pink P-Funnel, and it worked fantastic.
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I tell this story in the book, but the women
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on the trip were very curious about it, but also
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quite jealous about it.
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And one actually even asked me to borrow it one day.
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Oh, no, no.
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And so a.
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Big part of the book, it has my real method
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in it, which we talk about boundaries a lot.
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OK, boundaries, people, boundaries. I am not sharing my pee funnel.
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So if you want confidence, start with a pee funnel.
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A pee funnel.
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Okay, I want to talk about the.
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Real method because I live for a good framework. But
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before we go there, one of the things that I
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appreciated the most about working with you as an author,
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so Simone came to a writing retreat that I led
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and we got to spend a lot of time together
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with the book. And at one point I called her
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up and I said, she referenced this earlier, I love it,
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I love the content, I
love the framework, but the
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book title is real and I need to see you
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be real. Go, you're referencing, you're skimming over the surface,
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but I want to know how you felt in those
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dark night of the soul moments. Take us into the pain.
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Take us into the failure. What was that like? What
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did it feel like? Let us cry with you. And
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you truly, I mean, you were like, understood the assignment
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and went away for six weeks and came back with
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an entirely different book. So I would love to hear
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about that journey for you as an author, because you
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leveled up 10x in that moment.
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I think that, again, when you're putting very vulnerable stories
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out there, you still have that voice inside your head
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that says, am I going to be judged, right? Like,
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my biggest concern right now is my mom still hasn't
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read the book. And I think when she reads part
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of it, she's going to be a little sad. But,
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you know, it was important for me to put.
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It out there the way I did.
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And I mean, that story has nothing to do with
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my mom. But as a parent, like when she read it,
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what did you say when you read it?
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I was angry.
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She was angry. She was like, how could this be?
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And yeah, so I realized that I had to dig
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deep because again, we talk about, like I said before,
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we talk about the shiny moments, but really being able
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to talk about what we struggle with and the details
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of it. And for me, it was actually very cathartic
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to be able to write it down and say, okay,
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like now, I think for so long I thought if
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I stuff, when we struggle with something, if we just
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stuff it down, then it'll be fine.
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It'll go away.
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Fine stands for freaked out, insecure, neurotic, and emotional. So
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when you say you're fine, you're really not. And so
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that's what I did for so long was stuff it down.
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And I think what the writing process did for me
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when I really started going back in time and thinking
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about these stories, I was like, oh, I really, I
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am such a different person. I made peace with everything
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that had happened. And I'm a better human.
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And you telling that story and having the courage to
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do it is what's going to change lives. And that's,
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I think, my favorite part of the author journey is
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a lot of people will be impacted, but no one's
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going to be more transformed than you as the author.
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And you are living proof of that. Yeah.
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Tell us about the real method. What is the real method?
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So the REAL method, first of all, I like the
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word real way better than authentic, so I started there.
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Too many letters.
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I know. Way too much math there.
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So it stands for respect yourself, embrace your failures, ask
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yourself what you want, and live without limits. And the
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reason I started with self-respect is because I think it's
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foundational for everything we do. I remember as a kid
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being taught to respect my elders, my peers, but never
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once do I remember that the most important person that
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I need to respect is myself. And so that's so
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important for me with my kids is that idea of
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setting boundaries, the idea of self-care, really putting those things
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into practice and, you know, all the steps in it,
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embracing your failures.
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stepping stones.
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like that, they've failed at things. I mean, that's part
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of how you work through things. But I used to
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think that you know, failure was the end of the road. Ooh,
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don't try that again. That was icky, right? But that's
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not how it works. It's like, okay, what did I
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learn from that? What can I do next? Um, the
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ask yourself what you want, I think is a really
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interesting one because I, you know, and this is from
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a woman's, a woman's perspective is that we don't do
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that enough, right? We focus on what everybody else needs
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it really is about saying, okay, what do I want
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right now?
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myself that question many times. And what I'm doing in
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my life is exactly where I want to be. I
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started off as a CPA, just so you know. I
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have a bachelor's and master's in accounting. I was supposed
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to be a doctor, but both my parents are doctors.
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My husband's a doctor. My sister's a doctor. I obviously
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am a speaker. But I failed organic chemistry the first time,
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took it again, got a D, and that was the
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end of any thoughts of medical school. And so I
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said to my dad, I really want to go into acting.
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I was like, similar letters, but not the same thing.
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many times over my life because we have these ideas
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that our kids need to know exactly what they're going
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to do by the time they're 18 years old. I mean,
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I'm 53, and now I'm where I'm meant to be.
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Beautiful. And then the last one, the L was live
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without limits.
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Live without limits, yeah.
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Talk to us about that.
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We limit ourselves from the second we wake up until
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the minute we go to bed, right? I mean, the
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way we talk about ourselves. I used to say, I'm
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just a stay-at-home mom. I'm just Rob's wife. I'm just
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a volunteer, basically justifying my existence. We're not just anything.
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We're not just anyone. We are all unique.
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We all matter. We all make a difference in the
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And so the words we say matter.
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And there's tons of research around the words that you
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say to yourself and how impactful it is. We just
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finished the Olympics. I mean, think about that. Do you
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think a skier goes to the top of the hill
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This is really going to suck. I'm going to do
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horrible today.
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They talk themselves up. So the words you say to
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yourself matter. And it took me a long time to
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realize that. And one of my big realizations was through
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this kid over here. Because when she was 15 years old,
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I was getting ready for an event in front of
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the mirror and complaining how I had gained weight again.
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I don't fit in my clothes. Why am I even going?
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she said, first of all, you're beautiful. Second of all,
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you need to stop. You're giving me a complex. How
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can you expect me to love my body when you
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don't even like your own? And that was such a
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wake-up call. And I think so many of us go
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through life talking down to ourselves. And we don't even
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realize we're doing it because it's on autopilot, auto-repeat.
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And so that.
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Part is really about thinking about what you're saying to yourself.
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Because it not only affects you, but it affects the
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people around you.
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And I didn't realize that. I didn't even realize I
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was doing it.
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In just a minute, I'm going to take questions as well.
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So we'd love for if anyone has questions they'd like
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to share. But before we go there, Simone, talk to
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us about the actual launch process. So you said earlier
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when you released your first book, this one over in
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the corner, you had this idea, as most authors do,
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if I write it, they will come. If I put
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it into the world, everyone
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and if only, right? We have to tell people that
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this book exists. So how was this launch different than
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the first one that you did?
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Tell us your learnings.
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Oh my gosh. Okay. So I went on 200 podcasts.
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How's your voice?
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It's fantastic. It's worked really well. So it's like strong now.
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It's very strong.
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I basically texted everybody in my phone, texted everybody in
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my husband's phone, and It's pretty effective. You've got to
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keep doing it. And then your friends were like, oh, yeah,
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I'm getting it. I'm like, did you really? Show me
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the receipts.
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Did you really?
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And that's the crazy thing. Sometimes your closest friends don't
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write you a review where you're like, what are you doing?
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So it was, again, my word for the year is
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taking action. And so it was really about taking action
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with every aspect of it.
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And it worked.
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And people know about the book. That's the other thing, too,
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is that even random people are coming up to me and, oh,
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I heard your book made the USA Today bestseller list.
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I was like, who are you? I don't say that,
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but I'm like, oh, thank you. I don't know who
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you are.
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Well, but I think that's such the beautiful thing is
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that so much of publishing is actually hand-to-hand combat and
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having the courage and the real confidence to get out
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there and put your book in front of people and
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put yourself in front of people and not be afraid
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of maybe they don't write the review, maybe they don't
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respond to the text, and to keep knocking on doors
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and handing the book out because.
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from doing that, then you see the impact.
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Tell us about a few of the people who have
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shared just how they've been impacted from the book so far.
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from men than women that have read the book. Actually,
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I did an interview with, there's a local paper called
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the Business Observer in Sarasota, and the editor for it
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texted me today and just said that he was blown
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away by the book and that He said he appreciated
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how vulnerable I was in the book and that it's
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really going to make a difference in the world. I
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have a friend who is a Marine, a retired Marine,
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and he also was like, I read it in two days.
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I couldn't put it down. It really impacted my life.
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doesn't matter that you wrote it for women. It's going
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to change the life of men as well.
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Raise your hand if you need more confidence.
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Yes.
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I definitely do.
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If you didn't raise your hand, I want to talk
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to you afterwards.
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Yeah, exactly. I'd love to open it up to a
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couple of questions. Oh, I love it. Jennifer. Thank you
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so much. Oh, coming behind you. Oh, absolutely. Happy to.
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Simon, thank you so much for talking about your framework.
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And I'm curious about, I'm thinking about impact results.
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What are some dream results that you would love to
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see now that the book is.
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Out in the world?
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I mean, I think for me, it's always when you
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impact one person's life, you change the world. And so
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really hearing stories of how people have done things differently
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because of reading the book, because I think that is
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the most important thing. I mean, unless you're someone famous,
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you don't make money off of a book. So it
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has nothing to do with that. That's why I'm happy
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to donate all the profits every time I go somewhere
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from it, because that's not what it's about. It's about
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changing lives. That's the biggest thing is to hear
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other women that, hey, I did something different. I spoke
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up in a meeting where I would have stayed silent before.
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with my children, whatever it is that is making a
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difference in their lives.
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We had another question over here.
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Yes?
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I actually have two questions if I can be greedy.
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Be greedy. Live without limits.
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So the first question is, in the context of Mount Kilimanjaro,
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but also in everyday life, there's so many, I think,
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ingredients that probably go into success or getting to the summit.
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Why was confidence the thing that you've honed in on?
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Because I realized how much I struggled with self-doubt, that
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I questioned everything I did on a regular basis. And
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the biggest thing I realized is that I always thought
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confidence was something other people had, and I just didn't.
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But it doesn't work that way. It's a skill, like
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any other skill. It's a skill that you build the
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way you think about things.
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The way you talk to yourself.
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But you don't take one Spanish lesson and become fluent, right?
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You don't go to the gym one time and become buff,
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although that would be amazing.
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That doesn't happen. But that's the same thing with mindset.
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It's the same thing with confidence is that it is
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something that you work on all the time. And a
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lot of times we'll look at other people and say,
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oh my gosh, they're so confident. And sometimes they are,
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sometimes they're not. Sometimes they have this facade up. And
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that was me for a long time. My friends thought
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that I was super confident that I had it all together.
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I cried, like it would all fall apart, right? And
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so that
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that because I knew that that was something that I
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really struggled with.
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And then you start looking at statistics.
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It's like 80% of all people struggle with low self-esteem.
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I mean, they're huge statistics.
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One of the craziest ones, and I always like to
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talk about this when I speak, is that when it
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comes to women and beauty, take a guess on what
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percentage of women consider themselves beautiful.
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Anybody?
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OK. Close. 4%. 4% of all women in the world
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consider themselves beautiful.
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Now let me put that in relationship to something that
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is very interesting.
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65% of people in our country believe in aliens.
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Yet only 4% of women believe that they're beautiful.
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How ridiculous is that?
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65% of men think they're handsome. That's what I thought
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you were going to say.
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No, more ridiculous than that. No, come on. But it is,
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you know, it's a crazy thing when you think about
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it like that. Yeah, it's an issue. Like we need
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to look in the mirror and we're all unique. We're
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all beautiful. Like we need to tell ourselves that.
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when they see us look in the mirror and say,
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oh my gosh, you know, God, you gain weight or,
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you know, your wrinkles or whatever. What do our kids
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start to think, right? That they're not good enough. So
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it's so important that we change the way we talk
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to ourselves.
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That was random, but.
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Okay, part two. Yeah, part two. So I think it
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relates to that. I can imagine, so I haven't read
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the book yet, but I bought it.
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So I'm excited to read it. And I can imagine
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that there's like a kind of like a global or
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like a macro confidence of like just navigating everything.
And
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then there's like a specific acute confidence around like climbing
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a mountain or writing a book or doing a specific thing.
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And I'm just curious, like I personally do well with
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like macro confidence, but maybe there are these things like
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writing or speaking that are like super intimidating to me
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in an acute way. So what would you, having gone
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through this journey, both with the mountain and the books,
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what would you.
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Say about that?
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Yeah, I mean, I agree.
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I think that, you know, we can all be confident
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in different areas, right? But the goal is to not
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let the areas that we're struggling in affect us. So
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I have my little mindset hack that I like to use.
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Very creative title. I thought of it myself. It's called Control-Alt-Delete.
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So back in the day, it was how you would
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reset a frozen computer. But sometimes our minds freeze too.
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We get stuck in that comparison game. We spiral in self-doubt.
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So control is about awareness. Because most of the time,
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we're not aware what we're telling ourselves. What are the
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thoughts that are running your day? I call it the
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what-if whisperer.
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What if you fail? What if they judge you? What
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if you're not enough?
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So becoming aware of those thoughts is the most important thing.
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And is it real? Is it helpful?
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Most of the time, the answer is no. Alt is
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about alternative. Tell yourself a better story. Instead of telling
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yourself that you can't be a writer or you can't
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be a climber, yes, you can.
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You can. You have to put in the work. But yes,
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you can.
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And then delete the habits and beliefs that don't serve you.
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Delete the comparison game. Delete the belief that you're not enough.
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delete the idea that you need to wait until you
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feel ready. So, I mean, that for me has been
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really effective,
even to the point where like going to
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an event where I'm like, Oh, I don't know if
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I'm going to fit in.
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What am I going to do?
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And I'm like, control, I'll delete it. Just get in
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the car and go. And for me, that's been really effective.
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I love that.
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Let's go for one more question. Yes. AJ. Hi.
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Hi.
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Why did you say yes to climbing Mount Kilimanjaro? Like with,
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A million reasons would have been so easy.
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I have six kids. I can't do it.
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What was it in you that was like, yeah, I'm
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going to climb this mountain?
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That's a big leap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was a big leap.
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So I think there's really two parts to that question.
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And the first one is I had been the yes
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girl for so long. I was the people pleaser. I
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did everything, right? I was like, yes, you need me
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to pick up your kid from school? Sure, I only
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have six of my own, but sure, I'll do it.
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You want me to be the Browning troop leader? Yes,
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I'll do that too, because I love, no, I don't. But,
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you know, so I said yes to everything because.
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I put that expectation on myself.
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I thought that that's what I had to do for
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people to include me and people to like me and
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all the things. The second part was I was at
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a point where I realized I had to get out
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of my own way. Kilimanjaro just happened to come up. Like,
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it probably could have been run a 5K, like something
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to help me.
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But what came up was Kilimanjaro.
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Yeah, it would have been a lot easier. So two
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parts to that was that I knew I needed to
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get out of my own way, because I was really struggling.
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And you read enough self-help books, and you're like, OK,
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you've got to take action. And so that was me
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taking action. A weird action to take, but hey, life changing.
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Part two of that, just to wrap that up.
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Sorry, Ali.
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Part two. She got a part two.
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I'm going to do a part two.
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What was the biggest life lesson that you walked away
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from that mountain?
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Yeah.
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The biggest one was that I really don't need to
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worry about what anybody else is thinking. Like, I am
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a good person. I am doing amazing things. And, you know,
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I have six kids at home, and I didn't think
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that I was enough.
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Right? That's ridiculous.
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And because to me, the most important job in the
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world is raising good humans. And so that was really
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the big mindset shift for me was that I am
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enough as I am, and I don't need to worry
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about what anybody else is thinking.
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So good.
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And if you don't want to climb a mountain, but
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you do want confidence, we have books for sale in
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the lobby if you'd like to take a smaller step. Simone,
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what would, as we kind of wrap this up, what
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kind of transformation Do you hope to see in the
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life of the reader once they close that last chapter
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and set the book down?
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How do you want them to be changed?
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Yeah, I want them to say, yes, I can do that.
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I mean, that's the biggest thing is that we so
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often wait for someone else to.
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Say, oh, yeah, you should do that.
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Right.
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Applying for a job. Your best friend will tell.
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You 15 times, oh, you should apply for that job.
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And you're like, oh, no, I want people to start
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doing it for themselves, saying you should apply for that job.
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Like I can I'm going to go do it. right?
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So it's that, again, going back to taking action, even
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when you feel scared, even when you're not sure of
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what's going to happen. I mean, again, that's where confidence grows.
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So take action.
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Well, I'm so proud of you.
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Again, I'm so grateful you wrote this book and that
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you took the confidence, you had the confidence and the
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courage to do it. And we're going to hear more
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about Dream Streets, which this event tonight is supporting. But
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One quick ask I have for everyone. This is now
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I'm putting my publisher hat on. Aside from buying the book, Simone,
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if you want to support her, write a review on Amazon.
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Thank you so much. I didn't pay you for that piece,
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but that's great.
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Thank you.
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That would be because these are the tiny little things
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that we can do. I call it being a good
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literary citizen. If you want to show up and support
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Simone posting on social media, and then it takes 30 seconds,
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go onto Instagram, click the little stars, And whatever feels authentic,
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five stars. Write the review. But those kinds of things,
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you have no idea. Even leaving a review on the podcast,
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you have no idea how far that goes when you
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are the creative and the author putting your work out
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into the world. So thank you, each of you, for
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being here and for showing up and supporting Simone.
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And you're just such a rock star.
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Thank you.
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I stand in awe.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to her unshakable confidence.
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If this conversation resonated with you, be sure to subscribe
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and leave a review so more women can find the show.
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Keep trusting yourself.
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You are stronger than you think.
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You are unshakable.
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See you next week.