Full Transcript for Ep. 123 (Boxing Edition) | Usyk vs. Rico Recap Show

00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.520 I almost forgot how to work this thing. 77 00:03:53.560 --> 00:04:06.879 But now let's take a look at it. 78 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:12.680 No world star. 79 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:35.879 So Steve, what do you think about that? 80 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.639 Because she was actually slapped at Leasta gone a bun 81 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:40.920 Gunner and they got recorded. 82 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.079 Okay, I was I was about to ask that she 83 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.560 slapped the security guard in the back of the head 84 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.759 on accident, but yeah, the connected. 85 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.759 Yeah connected, she sped, she slapped, she slapped bom Gunner. 86 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.079 I was about to say, I was like the altercation alone, 87 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.839 that was messed up, but she actually uh slapped her, 88 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.160 So I can I can see why she's not welcome 89 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:03.720 to the promotion. 90 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.079 Well, so what do you think. 91 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.800 We've all chatted about these two women in the past, 92 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.879 what they want they and they always chatter back and forth, 93 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.360 but it's actually got physical. 94 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.279 So what do you think now that it's gotten physical? 95 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.560 I think I think women's boxing needs that. 96 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.319 I think it, I mean, think about that's the hottest 97 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.079 boxing fight right now, I don't know if it's a 98 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:30.439 situation where Clarissi is too heavy and a bomb guard, 99 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.800 she's a lighter fighter. I don't know if they could 100 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.519 meet in the middle, but if that it is possible, 101 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.160 I think that's the fight. 102 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.959 To make for definitely a woman's boxing. 103 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:45.920 Yeah, well, we'll get into that a little bit if 104 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.079 this fight actually happened. But there's some legal implications, like 105 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.040 I said about earlier, but we'll go to more detail 106 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:56.839 about that MVP Promotions band Clarisia shields, I mean, I 107 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.399 guess rightfully, so she got physical on another fighter outside 108 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:05.199 of fight setting, but Bogarn is threatening legal action, basically 109 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.920 threatening the suit she was for attacking her or assaultant battery. 110 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.360 But then a reporter came out a few days ago too. 111 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:17.839 Uh, Chlorstia, she was threatening to sue MVP and at 112 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:18.639 Leasta Bungarn. 113 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:20.759 Now, I'm like, how's that

gonna work out? 114 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:22.959 She's the one to attack then, But reading into the story, 115 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:26.000 it says that she's threatening to suit in for defamation. 116 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:27.639 They're saying she's saying that they. 117 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.079 Spreading lies about her and this and that and back 118 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.519 and forth. So what do you think about all this 119 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.279 legal action coming into play. 120 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:42.079 Well, uh, I think they always say fighters and going 121 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:43.360 to a all depending on what. 122 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.680 It is, and they say it's petty for fighters to 123 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:47.120 do that. 124 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:52.160 But I mean sounds like Carissa is taking nonaccountability. 125 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.759 I mean, you don't put your hands on anybody. 126 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:59.959 You're a professional fighter, you know, although it's another professional fighter, 127 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.720 you're not supposed to use your hands outside the ring. 128 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.079 And I mean, I don't know what she's complaining about. 129 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.279 She should have just did it, took the l and 130 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.040 if she wanted to hear that bad and knew that 131 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.319 there was a possibility of a lawsuit. 132 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.439 Yeah, I always got to keep your hands. 133 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.920 So one thing, you know, talking back and forth, like 134 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:22.319 these women talking back and forth for years, but once 135 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.800 it gets physical, that takes it to another level. But 136 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:29.360 as far as inside of the ring, I don't know 137 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.279 if this fight could actually happen. You suggested a catchweight, 138 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:36.040 that's like the only way could happen. Because Alicia, Alicia 139 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.680 Claricia Shields keeps going up weight classes. I think her 140 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.480 bread and butter was at one sixty eight if I'm 141 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.040 not mistaken, maybe one sixty But since then, I think 142 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.680 she's fired at light heavyweight. She might have just skipped 143 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:49.319 like everyweight, so don't quote me on that, but she's 144 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.040 definitely a heavyweight now, undisputed everywhere champion. I know one 145 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:55.839 organization has it at one seventy five, which is typically 146 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.560 light everyweight, but the other organizations have a you know, 147 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.480 classic everyway where it was two hundred and above, and 148 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:02.759 she's champion for. 149 00:08:02.720 -->

00:08:03.639 Three of those as well. 150 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.199 And Alicia Bungarn I want to say she fights at 151 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:12.000 lightweight or maybe even light well to weight, maybe so 152 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.800 five maybe one forty six, you might fight it well 153 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.759 to wait either way, that's still a drastic weight difference. 154 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.519 You think it's even possible to make this happen? Being 155 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:28.879 the weight difference between these two ladies. 156 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.720 I think it's hard to tell. 157 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:31.240 I think one of the other is going to have 158 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.960 to suffer, uh, And I would think Clarissa for cutting 159 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:41.120 that weight, especially being used to that weight class, and 160 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.200 you know sort of like when fighters move up or 161 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.360 they go down, they have to like probably take off 162 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.559 a year to get alclimated to that body. So I 163 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.759 think if that's the case, that's a situation where I 164 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.919 feel like both of them got to go silent, and 165 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.519 if the fight is going to get made. You know, 166 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.879 whatever weight they're meeting at, it's gonna have to be 167 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.759 and then doing that, which I think is worth it. 168 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.279 You know, it's gonna be the fight of the century for. 169 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.799 Women's boxing, and if they can get the numbers to 170 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:17.039 them before, I think. 171 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.720 It's possible. But I think one of the other is 172 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:21.320 gonna suffer. 173 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.399 Who you think was suffer more, Carissa or Alicia? 174 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:32.399 I would say the one cutting because you know, you'd figure, 175 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.159 like I said, they'll get acclimated to their body. But 176 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.679 somebody else going up in weight, you know, probably doesn't 177 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.000 seem like would hurt as much as going down and weight. 178 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.320 And I think that what it's like twenty pounds. 179 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.799 Yeah, I mean Chrissa is in heavyweight. Who knows how 180 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:55.440 much she weighs? Like I said, she's probably at least 181 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.360 I mean, you could fight underweight. I don't know what 182 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.879 she that's a good question. I don't know what she 183 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.679 on fight night, but it's above probably won seventy five, 184 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.600 somewhere between one seventy five and two hundred. And then Alicia, 185 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:08.679 like I said, Alicia's fights that I want to say 186 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.200 one forty if I'm not mistaken. 187 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:13.120 I mean, look that up. 188 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:14.919 But either way, it's a like you said, it's a 189 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.519 big weight difference, but you're saying that you think Clarissa 190 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:19.360 will suffer more. 191 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.320 Yeah, I mean twenty pounds or old twenty pounds. 192 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.000 That ain't the ain't no joke, and that's just not 193 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.879 no fight. Can't cut weight, then she has to get 194 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:35.360 used to walking around with all that look muscle man. 195 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.360 I even gave Alicia. I just looked out. 196 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.240 I just gave Alicia more credit than I should have. 197 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:44.240 She actually is a champion at one thirty. She's super favruey, 198 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.240 which is which is light which is a junior lightweight, 199 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:51.879 which is the same weight class one thirty. So I 200 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:56.200 don't know, like if you're Alicia, like you said, of 201 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.039 course that would be a big weight cut for Clarissa. 202 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.960 But having to fight out a catchway, is that even 203 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:02.960 worth it for Alicia? 204 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.919 Yeah, it's like I wish she not even be able 205 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:12.360 to perform with that, uh you know, extra weight put 206 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:12.720 on her. 207 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:15.200 Yeah, And I. 208 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.879 Didn't realize Alicia's signed what she's signed to actually Jake 209 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.960 Paul's MVP. You know, they just launched the mmas. That's 210 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.600 what everybody's talking about. But kind of forget they actually 211 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.080 their bread and buttery is boxing. Still, I don't see 212 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.720 her fighting anything higher. I'm looking at her record. I 213 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.480 don't see her fighting anything higher than one point thirty 214 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:35.960 right now. 215 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.039 So yeah, I don't know. I don't know. 216 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.759 Like I said, Siels, she had all those belts at 217 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:51.000 one sixty eight. The only catchweight fight that may not 218 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:52.639 even a catch fight. But if like you met in 219 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.519 the middle of an actual weight class would be trying 220 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.240 to fight at one fifty four, that's super well to weight. 221 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.759 But twenty four pounds for somebody to gain you think 222 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.240 a Laicia will Be would have

even gain that much 223 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.559 weight without being out of shape. 224 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:15.720 Yeah, and uh, and it depends on if this is 225 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.440 a person that can only gain weight by muscle. Yeah, 226 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:23.960 you can only gain so much muscle. Or would it 227 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.120 even benefit by just eating more. 228 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:26.879 I don't know. 229 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:32.840 I just twenty four pound difference either, somebody's that's just. 230 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.720 The way off. Yeah, twenty four pounds just to fight 231 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:36.519 at a catchweight. 232 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.679 And then but then you do, like look on other 233 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:42.840 side of things, of course it will be cutting weight to 234 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:46.840 get down on one fifty four. So I think it'd 235 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.919 be like you said, it'd probably be worse for her 236 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:49.960 to suffer. 237 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.919 But you don't think that. I'm sure. 238 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.919 What if they try to put a rehydration clause, you know, 239 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.559 box is known for that. I think that would be 240 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:02.720 a big factor and whether how much Clarissa suffers. I 241 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.039 think at least you would probably have to put a 242 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:08.360 rehydration clause, be like you can't. 243 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.519 Gain more than like five or ten pounds after weighing in. 244 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.720 But I don't know. 245 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.879 But even with that, would at least you even have 246 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.759 a chance though, like you said, it'd be on paper, 247 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.480 it'd be one of the biggest fights in women's boxing history, 248 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:25.200 just based on the trash talk and accomplishments of both ladies. 249 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.960 But would it even be competitive? 250 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:32.159 I think I think trying to compare then them argue, 251 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:36.960 and I think Clarissa has the bigger body and stronger, 252 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:43.000 so I think it would uh for the most part, 253 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:43.960 not end up well. 254 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:50.080 For a bombguarter, Yeah, that's what it might be an understatement, 255 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.919 she'd probably be. But I mean, one knock on, Clarissa 256 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.519 Shields is as dumb as she is. She's not known 257 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.480 like a layla a leaf for knocking women out like that. 258 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.440 She's got stoppages but she's not necessarily known as a 259 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.879 ko artist, so we may be able to survive, but 260 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:12.120 I think the weight difference will be why she can't survive. 261 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.240 But who knows. 262 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:18.320 We've seen stranger things happen in boxing, but hopefully these women. 263 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:19.000 Keep it inside the ring. 264 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.080 We don't have any outside altercations anymore. 265 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.480 But staying in the world of you know. 266 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.919 Kind of news stories that broke out, of course, we 267 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:30.799 always talk about this guy for some reason. 268 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:32.080 Jake Paul's back in the news. 269 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:37.480 Apparently him and Canelo talked, and I think Jake got 270 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.399 him kick, and he basically framed it like him and 271 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:44.120 Canelo had like an actual business call. And I'll give 272 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.759 you a Jake Paul's quote. I think I don't know 273 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:52.080 who he was talking to on kick, but allegedly he 274 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.159 went on to Kick and said that he talked to 275 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:57.200 Canelo and he told him he had two one hundred 276 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.759 million dollar purse waiting for him if he just signs 277 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.799 on the out of line, and Canelo said that he's down. 278 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.720 That's according to Jake Paul's. 279 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.039 Story, But of course there's always two sides to the story, 280 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.399 and apparently that's not how it went down. According to Canelo. 281 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:14.279 Let's hear what Canelo had to say about this. 282 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:25.399 Sorry, was one of my friends was in Courcheval, in Courchieval, 283 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.240 and he Jake Paul and maybe he said I'm a 284 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.480 friend of a Canel or whatever. And I was with 285 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.879 my with my my little daughter, and I saw the 286 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.679 face FaceTime of my friend and I just answer, and 287 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:44.519 was Jake Paul there with him? So and he started talking, Oh, 288 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.679 I respect you and this and that, and I'm, oh, yeah, 289 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.440 I have nothing against you too. 290 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.279 I don't really care about anything. 291 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:58.480 So and he say, my friend starts saying two ndred 292 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.320 million million a million, and I just say anything because 293 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:07.679 I don't. I don't really care about that fight, really, 294 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.960 and I don't say anything. I just laugh and and 295 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.639 I say, no, I respect you too, and I don't 296 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.559 have I have nothing against you. 297 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:19.399 And that's

it. That's the story as a story. 298 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:23.320 But I think, look what I what I realized that 299 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.919 in every single event they need to talk about me 300 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:32.360 to sell tickets and pay per view. Every verse is 301 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:36.679 other fights there, and they always talk about Canelo Canelo 302 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.240 and this, and I want to fight Canelo and and 303 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.000 because they don't, they don't sell tickets. They don't sell 304 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.840 pay per view. They need to, they need to mention 305 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:51.600 my name, and I think they don't. Don't sell so 306 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.360 much tickets for the fight. He have with that with 307 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:58.879 his company or I don't know, and that's why he 308 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.120 brings that situation, that the two hundred million. 309 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:08.160 But I look, it's fine, you just laugh. I don't 310 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:09.200 not worry about it anything. 311 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:17.000 So, as you heard from the horse's mouth, apparently, uh, 312 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.640 Canelo's friend was at Coachella and he ran into Jake 313 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.680 Paul and got like an impromptu face time calling. 314 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.440 Basically, Jake Paul was yelling numbers at him. 315 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:28.079 Canelo was just laughing at him, basically didn't accept anything. 316 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.680 So where do you what's your take on this whole story? 317 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:32.759 Uh? 318 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:38.960 Well, I assume Canelo's story is more accurate. Uh yeah, 319 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.119 I'm just saying that he wouldn't have to worry about 320 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:47.400 he's a successful boxer. If anybody who would need that, 321 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:53.960 it's Jake Paul. Uh I I honestly believe Canelo. Seems 322 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:56.680 like Jake Paul is the one to stretch the truth 323 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:00.680 because of course he would be the one winning that fight. 324 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.799 Yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm gonna side with 325 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.920 Canello because, like I said, Jake Paul, when he was 326 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.400 a KICKI frameer like there was actual business beating then 327 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.000 all he had to do simon. 328 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:12.400 Out of line. 329 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.680 Of course that was probably cap But digging deeper to 330 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.319 more of what a Canelo said, he's basically saying that 331 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:19.039 y'all need me. 332 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:20.000 I'm the A side. 333 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:22.960 Uh, your company might be floundering it right now. As 334 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:24.519 far as Jake Paul, what do you what do you 335 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:25.720 make about those comments? 336 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:27.440 Uh? 337 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.799 Yeah, I would have to agree. I would have to agree. 338 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:35.319 Uh, you know, somebody that's coming off of a loss 339 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:41.240 from already professional fighter, Uh, shouldn't be the one calling 340 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.880 the shots, you know. And if you are calling the shots, 341 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:50.039 you's yeah, you know, I know there's probably financial stipulations, 342 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.759 but you better let him be the A side because 343 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.920 it's just I don't know, unless you're getting paid to 344 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.000 be on the B side. 345 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.720 I agree with you, but kind of played double's advocate. 346 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.359 Looking at it from a vacuum, of course, Canelo needs 347 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:05.000 to be the A side. 348 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.119 He's actually a proven boxer, legend in the game. 349 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.279 But looking at it in a vacuum, they both coming 350 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.359 off losses. Canelos got his ass beat by Bud. Of course, 351 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:17.200 Jake Paul got his job broken by Joshua. 352 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:19.960 And then looking at MVP. 353 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.400 I mean they got the most eyes on them visually, 354 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.039 that what we say. I know the Rondo fight they 355 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.359 got like about seventeen million at one time, but like 356 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.559 the Tyson and Paul fight, I think it was like 357 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.319 seventy eighty million people watching. I don't know if any 358 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.240 eyes have been on a Canelo fight like that. I 359 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.279 know the Kameelo fight that was on the same platform, 360 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:41.039 the one fight that MVP promoted for them, or was 361 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.759 it UFC promoting it. I think it was UFC promotingent. 362 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.960 Actually it was you UFC in Turkey Ala Sheic, but 363 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.039 it was on Netflix. It was a Bud in Canelo fight. 364 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:51.240 I think it only got up to like thirty forty millions. 365 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:54.200 So what if Jake Powler busts with that, like I 366 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:55.400 got more actual eyes on me. 367 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:56.680 What do you say about that, Steve? 368 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.200 I can say he can make that argument. I can 369 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.519 see Canelo, you know, kind does not want to give 370 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.640 him any wave or any of them, you know, extra sauce. 371 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:13.440 I think it's a battle of negotiation and not trying 372

00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:18.440 to admire the person's accolades to battle, you know, as 373 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.319 far as like socially, who's a arb side, you know, 374 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:26.119 undermining certain people like you said Canelo underminded his viewers. 375 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.799 Yeah, I mean do you think the fight may happen 376 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:33.359 within the next year or two? 377 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:39.160 Am possible? Possible? 378 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:41.960 I mean I don't see. I think we talked about 379 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.519 in previous episodes. How canelos in a hard place right now? 380 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.160 Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit more later. 381 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:54.440 But yeah, if this fight, I know, if this fight 382 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.279 does happen, will of course predicted officially. 383 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.960 But I don't know. That might be a weird fun 384 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.960 the kind of predict how it actually plays out. 385 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.960 Because even though, of course Joshua broke his job, but 386 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.559 we saw him hanging there with Joshua and he was 387 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.599 running a lot. But what did he last like six 388 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.720 seven rounds with him? Yeah, Samelo's he's. 389 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:16.720 Bigger than Canelo, So. 390 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:20.920 You think it would be of course, everybody be predicting 391 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:24.160 Canello beating the crap out of him, But you think 392 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.559 Jake Palmer actually surprised some people about his performance. 393 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:31.759 If they actually have this fight, let's just. 394 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:36.920 Say, uh, I just say, I say the difficulty is 395 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.920 still there, but the chances of which I don't think 396 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.359 he has a chance. With the chance because it Canelo 397 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:48.240 is smaller than Anthony, just gives them possibilities, probably a 398 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.960 zero point five percent possibility to win. Well, I'm looking 399 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:55.720 at it because I mean, I don't think Canelo would 400 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.319 walk him down and give him seven rounds. 401 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.400 And find a tire amount. 402 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.279 I think I don't I would, of course I wouldn't 403 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:08.960 pick Paula win. But I was saying, what do you 404 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.200 he might not get knocked out like everybody think he 405 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:15.400 is gonna get knocked out just the fight going the distance. 406 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:21.720 I think that might be a high possibility. Of course, uh, Joshua. 407 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.960 Was walking him down. It's probably some speed difference with 408 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:28.319 Joshua was being bigger. I'm trying to think if Canelo's 409 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.240 speed difference because Canel will be faster with make a 410 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:35.200 difference and he just doesn't let allow Paula run from. 411 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:36.839 Him just because of the speed. I don't know, what 412 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:37.599 do you think about that? 413 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:42.880 I think so because I think I think from what 414 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:47.480 we know, I think if Canelo gets a niche he 415 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.559 gets aggressive walking them down, not sort of like Anthony, 416 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.839 Joshua was following him and to the ladder rounds, I 417 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.599 see as Canelo attacking, you know, ripping to the body 418 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.359 with his you know signature, say kidney punch, you know, 419 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.680 you know those type of shots. I see it happening 420 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:10.400 earlier in the rounds and what we saw with Anthony Joshua. 421 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.759 Yeah, well, of course we could always predict it, but 422 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:18.880 as far once we actually see it in the ring, 423 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.720 then we'll see how it actually plays out. But I 424 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:25.400 just thought it was interesting Jake Ball kind of embellishing 425 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.440 the story on how this fight negotiation happening. But I 426 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.599 don't know, like you said, Cane's kind of stuck between 427 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.960 the rock and the hard place. But I'll probably talk 428 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.039 about him a little bit later once we talk about 429 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:40.240 these fights that happened in the month of May. But 430 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.680 let's get into those. Let's start off with the fight 431 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.000 that happened back in early May. This is one of 432 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.960 my favorite boxers to watch. We've covered a few of 433 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.839 his fights in the past, David Benavidez versus Gilberto Ramirez, 434 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.039 and this is Benavidez testing himself again and going up 435 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:01.359 a weight class, coming up from one seventy five. Even 436 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.279 though he was in that one seventy five for long 437 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:10.960 and David Benavidez one wins by KOs sixth round and uh, Benevidez, 438 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:16.440 he answered all the questions. Uh, he was just showed 439 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:21.319 that speed kills, had those flurries and phenomenal kind of punching, 440 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.599 and then in that fourth round he dropped Zerto and 441 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:30.039 then moving on into the further rounds, he just I 442 00:24:30.079

--> 00:24:32.319 don't know, it was just a masterclass. You just saw 443 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:37.079 the handspeed on on deck for Benavidez, and then in 444 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.519 that sixth round he put him down for a second time. 445 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:43.279 I'm pretty sure that was a body shot and Zerto 446 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:48.000 couldn't get back up. And your new unified cruiseweight championship. 447 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.200 He got the WBA and the WBO. David Benavidez, what's 448 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:53.599 your thought on his performance THEE. 449 00:24:55.119 --> 00:25:02.880 Well, I didn't I can't remember it recent memory, very faintly. H. 450 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.039 I do remember him having. 451 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.839 A towards the end of the fight, his flurries because 452 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:09.279 I remember I seen the highlight. 453 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.599 What was ben Vitez's last fight? 454 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:16.279 Who did he fight? 455 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.119 It was at one seventy five and it was for 456 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.839 the one seventy five belt. This was back in what 457 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.720 mid twenty twenty five. If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty 458 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.799 I'm almost positive recovered over there. But you know, between 459 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.759 MMA boxing and all the sports recover and Ben Knunkle. 460 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:38.039 So he faced Yardy in his last fight. That was 461 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:42.079 the Saudi Radio back then back in November. He stopped 462 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.480 yard A too, and that was at light heavyweight. So 463 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.440 I guess once he started getting accumulated into the heavy 464 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.160 aweight class, like I said, that was his The Yarding 465 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.519 fight was the second light heavyweight fight. Oh no, that 466 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:57.599 was his third light heavyweight fight. The other two went 467 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:01.480 the decision, but he stopped yard Ay. But this is 468 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.839 first by the cruise of weight. So, uh, you know 469 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:05.960 take that for what his work. 470 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.680 Well, I could say he is very promising. 471 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.039 He's getting his KOs and you say he's going up 472 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.519 and wait and how old is he because he might 473 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:21.880 be you know, getting into his Uh he won't be. 474 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.799 He won't be thirty until the end of the year December. 475 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:29.079 About to say he's probably getting into his adult bodies 476 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:29.920 full form. 477 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.839 Uh and uh, you know, settling into his sort to speak, 478 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.799 his prime. You know how big he's gonna grow. I mean, 479 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:43.920 because somebody's still winning while they go up and wait, 480 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.359 I think he has more potential in that weight class. 481 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:54.799 Yeah, I feel like two hundred doesn't have sexy names 482 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.119 that one seventy five has. 483 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:01.000 Besides, Zerda was the big his name in the weight class. 484 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:02.200 He was unified champion. 485 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.640 But uh, there's some fights that people want to see 486 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.400 that him go back down in one seventy five. 487 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:10.440 I don't know that happened. 488 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.599 But as far as how he looked that cruise aweight, 489 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.640 I was skeptical of if that power translate. Like I said, 490 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.079 out of the three fights that he had at one 491 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.720 seventy five when he was going up after the one 492 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.039 sixty eight, the power looked like it didn't translate. But 493 00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.039 he did get the stoppers in his last fight. But 494 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.960 I don't know that hand speed. I don't know, i'd 495 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.640 say speed kills. So I'm just thinking, maybe you know, 496 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.559 you might have to power there just him being so 497 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.880 much faster than some of these cruiserweights and you can't 498 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.799 take all those punches like rapid fire like I never 499 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.680 seen a guy. But maybe besides like a Roy Jones 500 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.480 with like hand speed like that at a heavier weight 501 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.079 class like that. So what do you make about his 502 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.240 speeding power up there two. 503 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:57.440 Hundred from not mistaken if I remember, I mean, I 504 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.880 think he has passed. Can heyo to where like he'll 505 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.079 throw a fury you know what I'm saying before the 506 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.279 ko like real fast and like you said, it's very 507 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.000 rare for a fighter to plan in one stop, in 508 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.279 one spot and contort you know, left and rights for 509 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:14.960 a knockout. 510 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:22.079 He's one of the few people I've seen seen do it. Yeah, speed, 511 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.319 I think throws off people as far as ticipate, anticipation 512 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.200 and you know that can catch somebody off guard. 513 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.799 All you do is need enough power and uh as 514 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.240 fast as he is. I mean it's all about the 515 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:35.359 punch you don't see. 516

00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.720 Yeah, it is always about the punch you don't see. 517 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:46.599 But Yeah, as far as next opponent, I don't know 518 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.440 if there's much that he wants to do up there 519 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.920 two hundred. I don't have the champions in front of 520 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.319 my face, the other champions because he's got two belts now. 521 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:59.920 But the Meetri Bevoll, a fight that we talked about 522 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.400 up last year, the big fight that him and Better 523 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.559 bv had. I feel like there's still unsettled business between 524 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.599 Bevall and Better BF. 525 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.400 But right now, Bevall is the light. 526 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.640 Heavyweight champion, He's the undisputed light heavyweight championed bell or 527 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.880 better BF. So you think, well, and then let me 528 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.039 backtrack a little bit. I don't want to glaze over 529 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:26.319 after the fight. David Benavidez. He's basically calling out Canelo, 530 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.240 a guy I said, we come back to it, coming 531 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:33.440 back there now. So both of these fights that lighter 532 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.680 weight classes than with bitter Vie just won. So what 533 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.839 do you think is more likely that we see him 534 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:43.400 in beval smash it out out there light heavyweight or 535 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:46.559 him actually getting the Canelo FI. I think I already 536 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.440 know the answer, but I'm still asking it. What's more 537 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:50.480 likely out of those two scenereos. 538 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.160 Most likely? Well, I probably the one he probably wants 539 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.400 obviously is a Cano. 540 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.000 Yeah, I want a million dollars. That doesn't mean I'm 541 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.519 gonna get it. 542 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.000 Yeah, Yeah, I would see more likely the. 543 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.119 B ball the Bevall fight. 544 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.440 Yeah, because I mean, Canelo seemed like he's taking a 545 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.920 you don't hear anything from him that Crawford's loss, he's 546 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.200 taking a break. You really don't hear nothing from him, 547 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.759 So I can unless they throw a significant amount at him. 548 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:24.400 I think it's Bevall. 549 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.240 Yeah, and it's unfortunate, and we got a call a 550 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.359 spade a spade, and it's unfortunate that Canelo ducked them 551 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.799 for all those years when it was still actually a possibility. 552 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.640 When because what we were doing the show since twenty 553 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.960 twenty three, even back in twenty twenty three, when Benevidio's 554 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.839 stuff one sixty eight, I was saying that fight, shit 555 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.279 probably happened, and when Canelo was a full between one 556 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.079 sixty one sixty eight, even Canelo, I think during the 557 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.000 top span of our show he went up to one 558 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:55.680 seventy five, he lost to Bevall. 559 00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.440 I think we've talked about that final show man. Things 560 00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.279 kind of blurn together. 561 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.039 Yeah, now that he's at two hundred and what what 562 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.920 did the Canelo and Bud Crawford have it fight happened? 563 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:07.680 It happened. I think it happened. 564 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.599 I won sixty eight maybe one sixty one sixties middleweight, 565 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:12.960 one sixty eight super middleweight. 566 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:14.319 I can't remember where that fight. 567 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.240 Happened at, but I know Bud went up and wait 568 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.839 for that fight to happen. Looking at the rankings now, 569 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.640 because of course Blud I think vacated boat titles. Yeah, 570 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.079 I mean at this point, you think, because if you 571 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.720 got stopped by a spider Bud Crawford, how do you. 572 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:34.599 Think it was in for him? 573 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.000 If he faced David Beitnavia is a two hundred pounds 574 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.039 unified champion. 575 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:41.039 How bad you think that fight? 576 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:42.559 And right? 577 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:42.880 Uh? 578 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:44.880 And didn't Canelo fight Bevall? 579 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:46.480 Yeah you lost? 580 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.920 Yeah? So yeah, I can see his struggle. 581 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:51.240 Yeah. 582 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.200 So I don't know. 583 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.240 So you think that Canelo will probably just try to 584 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.480 avoid this fight altogether. 585 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.160 I would say so. I mean he lost to Crawford, 586 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.200 that's probably exactly scenario he's thinking about. 587 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:07.839 I mean, I don't want to go too far to 588 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:08.359 beating path. 589 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:08.960 Uh. 590 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.680 Speaking of Crawford Canelo, I did see a story that 591 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:14.359 Canelo is trying to get that rematch. 592 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.960 You think that would happen because Crawford's retired. 593 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.359 Well, they're gonna

have to throw us some money to 594 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.599 Crawford to get back out. 595 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.200 And that fight, and I was correct. That fight was 596 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.480 that when sixty eight Crawford and Canel will fight. So 597 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.640 I'm surprised blood went up all that way. Man, he 598 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.559 looked real good. But I digress. I don't know man Canelo, 599 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.519 Like I said, he's a legend, but this doesn't look 600 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.480 good if he's trying to chase the fight of a 601 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.039 lighter fighter who beat him handily instead of these challenges. 602 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:50.519 I know he's up there in age, he gets to 603 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039 choose the shots. What is how was. 604 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.799 Canelo now he's thirty five, he's only two days. His 605 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.119 birthday's two days after me, but he's two years younger. 606 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.160 His birthday it be in July eighteenth, so he returned 607 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.559 thirty six this summer. I get it, you don't want 608 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.519 to take damnages, but if Mexicans are known to be 609 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.920 Mexican warriors in their ring, I just feel like for 610 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.240 his legacy, even if he loses, if he takes on 611 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.119 David Benividez, don't you think that would look good for 612 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:19.119 Canelo's legacy? 613 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:21.440 Yeah? 614 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:26.039 Especially, I think partly is how you finish your career too, 615 00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.559 So kind of sucks to finish your career off of. 616 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.519 Your last fight is a loss. So I think he 617 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.960 has to do something to make up for you know, 618 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:42.720 that loss, and it was a loss to where Crawford, 619 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.519 you know, sort of put him in a bad spot too. 620 00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.720 As far as the bad spot go, elaborate on that. 621 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.720 As far as who to fight in that weight class 622 00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:01.400 and who's he's you know, no matter if Canelo goes 623 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.440 through that, I feel like Crawford beat all the important 624 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.039 people for it to not make anything matter for Danello 625 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.519 unless he goes outside of you know, his weight class. 626 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:18.320 Yeah, yeah, she's Yeah. 627 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.920 Like I said earlier in the show, Canela may be 628 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.119 stuck between a rock and a hard place. 629 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.079 And I'm just looking at the Cruisebay champions right now. 630 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.320 Like I said, Benavide's has two out of those four belt, well, 631 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.519 one belt is vacant. I don't even really realize. I 632 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.000 know that the ring is considered an official world championship, 633 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.920 I don't understand. I still don't understand how the ring 634 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.320 works their organization. I usually just look at WBA, BC, 635 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.760 IBF and WBO, but apparently right now the IBF cruiserweight 636 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.840 title is vacant. So I wonder if Benavida's might try 637 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.880 to grab that belt as well. Right right now you 638 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.440 have Noel mckellyan. He's the one belt that he doesn't 639 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:03.079 have that's not vacant, the Armenian German boxer. 640 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:04.920 So we'll see. 641 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.159 But I'm definitely excited I think I'd be more excited 642 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.599 as from a competitive standford to see the Bevo fight 643 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:12.800 because I didn't notice. 644 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.239 I don't know how that's how that works. 645 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.239 Menavida still has a bet at one seventy five, he's 646 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.800 still the WBC champion. As much as they stript people 647 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.719 for not defending, I'm surprised he was able to hold 648 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.519 on to that belt. So definitely think that's a fight 649 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.280 that more likely to happen than the Canelo fight. But 650 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.159 let's move up to another weight class, the glamour weight class, 651 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.119 the weight class that always has all the cloud heavyweight division. 652 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:48.400 Despite happened back on May ninth, we had Daniel Dubois 653 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:55.079 versus five year awardly for the heavyweight championship. This is 654 00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.440 for the one belt that who stick doesn't have, the 655 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:05.760 WBO championship yep, and Dubai won va KO eleventh round. 656 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.440 This was like a. 657 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.599 Classic fight eighties fights, seventies fight that you want to see, 658 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:17.079 almost like a rock'm soccer robot type matchup and highly entertaining. 659 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:18.519 I don't know how technical it was, but it was 660 00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.519 highly entertaining and I thought Dubal was in trouble in 661 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.639 those early round. He got dropping the first and dropping 662 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.800 the third round, but then even in that same third 663 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.320 round was able to kind of turn around and then 664 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.440 turn on the jets, and both guys were throwing back 665 00:36:34.480 -->

00:36:36.440 and forth. But even though Dubal was getting the best 666 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.920 of Warley, I think it was a sixth and seventh round. 667 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.199 I thought it was going to getting. 668 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.400 Close to us, stop bitch, But you know, Worley showed 669 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.400 how tough he was, and they kept going back and forth, 670 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.679 and then early in eleventh round, Dubrough connected with that 671 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.079 combination that forced the reugh to step in due to 672 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.840 all that damage. And you're a WBO heavyweight champion, Daniel Dubaugh, 673 00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:59.480 what's your thoughts on this one? 674 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.760 I'm not mistaken this you got. He had a busted 675 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:04.920 nose right at the end. 676 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.719 Like the fight, he's busted up all everywhere. 677 00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.119 You're right, man, That fight reminded me of a Riddic 678 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.599 uh slash, like you said, a good eighties maybe nineties fight. 679 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:20.000 Uh. 680 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.519 Like I said, the dude getting damaged. He definitely stood 681 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.800 in there. Uh you see, du bar, he got on 682 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:29.320 the back. 683 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.840 Foot in this well the front footage just just took 684 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.239 him out of there. Uh. 685 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.639 I thought the fight was gonna be finished way before, 686 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.360 especially when they sat him down, sat him on the 687 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.760 uh you know, between rounds, and you know, you figured 688 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.199 the corner was gonna stop it, but it kept going. 689 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.360 So uh. 690 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.360 I think it was a good fight and a good 691 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:51.840 win for. 692 00:37:54.440 --> 00:38:00.559 Du Bar And yeah, uh as far as where said, 693 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:06.280 some don't know, he might have opportunity because this is 694 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.360 a good win, but I just don't know who he would. 695 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:13.280 Fight. Now. 696 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.840 Well, I don't want to jump the gun, but we'll 697 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.639 talk about what happened this past weekend and a little bit. 698 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.480 But like I said, Worley was a tough guy. 699 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.639 He was the WBO champion coming into this, and the 700 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.440 ball was able to take the belt from him. 701 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.320 I don't know if you would run that back immediately. 702 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.519 Maybe save that for down the line. They're both pretty young. 703 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.239 Woodley's only thirty one.

He'll be thirty two at the 704 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:40.800 end of the year. 705 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:42.039 I thank you. 706 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.360 Bois is still twenty eight or so. He's twenty eight. 707 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.679 You don't turn twenty nine until September. But yeah, this 708 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.239 might be a situation where Duba just might have to 709 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:59.159 wait and let the organization make him through his mandatory defense. 710 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.119 Because we saw him fight Whosick not that long ago. 711 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.159 This was last year. We talked about. 712 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.559 That fight was back in July, so I don't know 713 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.480 if they were running that back, especially based on the results. 714 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.639 We'll talk about a little bit later, but guessing should 715 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.920 probably just sit back and wait for the mandatory defense. 716 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:23.480 I'm guessing right, I should say, did any fight WHUSI twice. 717 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.280 Think got knocked out twice? Yeah, fun twice? Yeah, talking 718 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:28.920 about both of them. 719 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.559 I think we talked about both of those fights on 720 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:33.920 the show because the first one happened back in August 721 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.400 of twenty twenty three. So yeah, he fought big Baby. 722 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:41.840 He fought Big Baby Miller and he beat him. 723 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.159 So we all know we got beat by Joshua if 724 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:51.559 I'm not mistaken. Also, right, Duboi, Yeah he's fucked. 725 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.400 He beat Joshua. That's right. 726 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.639 Yeah, that's right. That's the only thing probably that's saving 727 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:02.320 him if there's a possibility to slide in somewhere. 728 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.880 To maybe fake like a face Joshua again. Uh, I 729 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:12.840 don't know if Joshua want that smoke. 730 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:19.480 Yeah, or it's or it's getting Joshua's hand me downs 731 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:24.079 somebody he didn't fight and somebody joshuauld capitalize off of. 732 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.440 But I don't see anybody significant enough for him to 733 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.559 be in the space of a you know, like having 734 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.760 a four horsemen situation. 735 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.039 He's getting a little bit out of that. 736 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:41.960 Yeah, you know, Anthony Joshua Lusik uh right now you 737 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.920 can say Dubois part of that, but it's like he's 738 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.840 getting further away from the elite based off his h 739 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.239 hey over by uh that person from the top. 740 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.480 Yeah, definitely. 741 00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.679 Well, of course, we always recycle a lot of these 742 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.039 guys because you know, you know, it's still an entertainment business, 743 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.119 so we like to see people that have names in 744 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:11.719 the in the boxing sport industry, so to speak. But 745 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.039 I think they said this past weekend that Tyson Fury 746 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.320 is supposed to announce his next opponent, and the way 747 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.880 I see it playing out, I don't think it should 748 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.119 be that much of a mystery because I was thinking 749 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.639 about head, maybe he'll take a Walmart fight, But it's 750 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.480 supposed to be him and Joshua happened later on this year, 751 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.760 and they say they're supposed to announced it this week, 752 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.800 So I'd be kind of shocked if data if they 753 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.880 announced a different fight, which is still a possibility. 754 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.360 We know how the. 755 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.360 Boxing, you know, promotions work. You know, sometimes they'll always 756 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:48.639 give you a fights what you're expecting. But if they 757 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:50.840 do make the fight for in the fall, I guess 758 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.320 maybe you're in the spring, I mean on winter, excuse me, 759 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:53.760 the winter. 760 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:55.599 Do you think that. 761 00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:59.159 Maybe should try to wait out and see if you 762 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.679 get the winner of Fury and Joshua. 763 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.039 Definitely, I think I think that's his only option. 764 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.639 Is access to Joshua is that way, and you don't 765 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.840 want to mess it up fighting fighters that's not worth it, 766 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.800 or you know, I think his ticket is beating Joshua, 767 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.199 So that's keeping him within the talks of you know, 768 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:28.360 Tyson Fury and. 769 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:33.400 Or or getting that rematch with Joshua. 770 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:41.079 Definitely, yeah, yeah, I think there's only two options right now. 771 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.159 Him maybe trying to get the win of that or 772 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.519 just have to just putting his head down and just 773 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.599 defending his belt for the mandatories that he has to do. 774 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.559 And if that happens, then sometimes if you build it, 775 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.960 they'll come. You have to wait and see how the 776 00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.920 division plays out around you and so other people. That 777

00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.079 building ram up and then you have the bigger fights 778 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.119 come up. But I've said this in the music conversation, 779 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.199 but that's a topic for a different days, and it 780 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.239 kind of translates to the boxing division, like some of 781 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.920 these gen Z boxers need to get their names up 782 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.360 because a lot of the millennials like us are getting 783 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.000 up there in age and starting to retire, and we 784 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.320 still like to see big fights happening. But I've seen 785 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.760 that these gen Z fighters are taking a slower path 786 00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.239 of getting their names bigger. It's kind of not their 787 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.320 fault because we don't live in a monoculture like we 788 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.079 used to, where everybody's tuned in the TV at once. 789 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.679 Everything split up with streaming and on demand, so I 790 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.920 don't think that gives people to build their names like 791 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.239 they used to in households. But you know, the end 792 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.599 for us millennials and sports are coming sooner than people 793 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.360 may think. So gen Z needs to get their names 794 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.599 out there. Because I'm trying to think Davonte, he's like borderline. 795 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:56.119 I think he's born in ninety five, so he's like 796 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.320 borderline millennial gen Z. 797 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.920 But I was thinking Chakor. He's got a big name. 798 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.840 Garcia, of course, but those are in the lighter weight classes. 799 00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.559 I'm trying to think of people in like the higher 800 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.880 weight classes, you got ben Vedez. 801 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:12.920 He's a he's a gen zer. 802 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.239 Barely, I want to say, because like I said, he's 803 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.000 turned thirty, so he might be borderline too. 804 00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.079 I don't know. They need to build their names up 805 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.400 because we got to keep the sport moving. 806 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.719 But moving on to the fight that happened this past weekend, 807 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.639 Steve and the heavyweight division. Ya, he's not undisputed anymore, 808 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.199 but he's still unified heavyweight champion, and he's still your 809 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.320 lineal heavyweight champion. All is under who's sick put his 810 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.679 belt on the line against a guy who's only had 811 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.000 one boxing match before it, but he's a legend in 812 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:53.360 the kickboxing. 813 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:55.840 Rico Verhuin. 814 00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:01.400 I heard it was too professional boxing fights. 815 00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.119 I want to say that the second one was to 816 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.800 fight this past weekend, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, don't quote. 817 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.239 Me on this, but going into this, I'm saying he 818 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.000 had one professional boxing fight, but he had, like I said, 819 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:20.599 he's a legend in the kickboxing around Rico Boroven And 820 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:23.719 this wasn't the fight that people expected because entering this fight, 821 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.199 you had Lusik coming in as a twenty one betting favorite, 822 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.000 but he just looked out of source early on, and 823 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:33.440 it was Rico. He was the one that was putting 824 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:37.599 on more the pressure us Sick. But later on in 825 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.239 the fight, Lusik showed his championship medal. But as far 826 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.039 as like the commentators and the unofficial cars, uh, some 827 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.840 people had Rico up seven to one going into the 828 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.400 later rounds. But then, like I said, and going into 829 00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.599 the championship rounds, Husick started to put it on and 830 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.360 in the ninth you can see Rico starting to fatigue, 831 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.559 and then fast forwarding again to the eleventh round, he 832 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:09.679 got that uppercut and dropped them, and Rico dropped his mouthpiece, 833 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.400 and then once he got up and got his mouth 834 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.199 piece back in when the clock was running down, Lusik 835 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.360 just formed them and put a flurry of punches and 836 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.280 the rest stepped in. A lot of people were saying 837 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.880 that it was premature, but for that just the fight overall, 838 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.760 people did not expect this performance out of Rico, and 839 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.119 so people called it a robbery even if it they 840 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.719 called a robbery of the stoppage, and they think that 841 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.639 Rico would have won on the cars. But we'll get 842 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.039 into the how the judges scored it a little later 843 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.400 once I guld your thoughts on this fight played out. 844 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.360 Yeah, it seems like Alu he was going through adversity 845 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.519 was Rico. Rico was putting the pressure on him, stayed 846 00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.760 in his face, making the fight dirty from what I 847 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.000 And maybe that's

because, like you said, he's a kickboxer. 848 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:10.880 I don't know if Usik was. You know, their patterns 849 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.320 are weird as far as like a punch. 850 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.599 Set up, and maybe he tweaked that a little bit, 851 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.599 but you know, pure boxing science, you can, you know, 852 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.079 get used to that with you. I think Alexander Usik did, 853 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:30.159 and you know, certain shipulations of he probably can see 854 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.480 that how big that dude was muscular, and how much 855 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:37.440 he was moving, he was probably gonna see a window 856 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.000 to capitalize on his fatigue. And I think Alexander did 857 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:46.360 exact exactly that waited until he saw him get a 858 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:47.679 little bit slower. 859 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.400 And caught him with the punch and then didn't take 860 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:51.320 chances after that. 861 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.920 So, like during the fight or like right after the fight, 862 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.480 I texted you something about how crazy the fight was, 863 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.159 but I didn't give you up the results. But going 864 00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.960 back and looking at it, do you think that Rico 865 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.519 was winning that fight? Up into the stoppers. 866 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:12.920 Uh, definitely. 867 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.559 And I try to ignore the commentator too, but I 868 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.920 saw it. I try to not let it spoil anything, 869 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.960 spoil me when I watched it, so I had a 870 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.760 pure minded I would say he was winning. 871 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:26.320 He was. 872 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:27.519 He was more. 873 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:33.880 Aggressive, landing shots, you know, points, you know, to the body, 874 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.719 and like I said, he made a dirty fight to 875 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:43.679 where he was winning on the scorecard. I believe so. 876 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.239 Like you said, sometimes I don't like listening to the 877 00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:52.119 commentary because they I don't know if it's unconscious biased, 878 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.760 but they'll like make you think a certain way even 879 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:56.000 though it might not be happening. 880 00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:01.199 And I think that's what happened this fight, because of 881 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.159 course it was online. 882 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.800 It was an uproar online on how it was a 883 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:10.480 robbery before the stoppage and on the cards. But looking 884 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.119 back at it, with trying to be as neutral as possible, 885 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.280 I'm like a lot

of times when you have somebody 886 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.039 that's coming from the outside world and if they are 887 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:24.119 able to slightly exceed expectations or do better than you, 888 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.519 kind of like lean towards them. Because remember the Frances 889 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.480 and Donald fight, Him and Fury fights just because nobody 890 00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:36.039 expected him and people may have like over exaggerated on 891 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.199 you know with uh Doynal may have done in that fight, 892 00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:42.320 but looking back at it, went back and looked at 893 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.320 it again, but it could be like you know, like 894 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.639 you said, he was putting the pressure on throwing more punches. 895 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.920 But I don't know if all those punches were connected 896 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:51.039 even though he was throwing them. 897 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.599 You know, it could go off your hands and not 898 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:54.480 can connect. 899 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.440 So I just want to dig deeper into some of 900 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.199 the statistics and the how the judges scored it, and 901 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:03.800 we look at some of the comfy box numbers as well, 902 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.239 so I'll get your thoughts on that. So rounds one 903 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.079 and two, both all three judges had it for Rico, 904 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.480 Rounds one and two, Rounds three, four, five, all three 905 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.039 judges had it for Usik, Round six to seven, all 906 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.119 three had it for Rico. Eight, they had for Usik. Nine, 907 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:34.079 all three had for Rico, and then round ten it split. 908 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.320 Two judges gave it to Usik, one gave it to Rico. 909 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.840 So HEROD knows official official scorecard. How do you feel 910 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.559 about how that played out on the judges card. 911 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:49.800 It's hard to say. 912 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.719 And like you said, those punch those punches didn't land it, 913 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.599 but it just seemed like, you know, getting their arm 914 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.360 to the person. You see that Rico was doing that, 915 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:07.800 and maybe that's what through the judges off, you know, 916 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:11.000 or the expectation of the the Zeros. 917 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:13.440 I have to look at it again. 918 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.960 It seemed that, you know, Lusik was getting his punches 919 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.719 where he needed to, but I thought. 920 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.000 Rico was, you know, putting in more work. 921 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:25.519 Yeah. 922 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:30.480 So going into

the eleventh round, scorecard is five to five, 923 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.519 and I don't know if I would argue against that. 924 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:35.480 I gotta go back and look. I looked at it 925 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.519 once again, but maybe I gotta go back and look 926 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:43.400 at it again. And then besides, besides that that tenth 927 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.480 round that it was a split, but if it's if 928 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:48.280 it's even, if it's split, if two judges have. 929 00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.440 It, then you have that round. 930 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:51.719 But then going into the leventh round, that was gonna 931 00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.920 be a ten eight round because he got because he 932 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:54.840 dropped them. 933 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:56.639 Yeah, I don't know. 934 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.559 I think Usak was on the track in that fight. 935 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:02.199 If it would have went to the cars and people 936 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.440 probably would have been outraised. I'm glad that didn't happen, 937 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.360 But what do you think about the actual stoppage Pharoh file. 938 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.719 Uh, you got to give a fighter a chance. I 939 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:16.360 felt like he could have kept going, although I think 940 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.559 he would have got to finish anyway. 941 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:19.760 Uh. 942 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:29.239 Yeah, the consistency of the knockdown, it wasn't warranted to 943 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.440 the call off. 944 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.039 Of the fight, I don't think, because I was like, 945 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:32.920 I was surprised. 946 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:36.920 Wow, but what about accumulation. Though it was a knockdown, 947 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.000 but the ref lo abhim to continue. It was just 948 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.400 that second swarm that would close out the round where 949 00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.360 he stopped it. He was still starting, like he said, 950 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.440 So you just think he should have been allowed to 951 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:46.159 go out on his shield. 952 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.559 Yeah, I don't, And I don't think he was out 953 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.519 of that too much out of it when that swarm 954 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.840 came to even stop it. So I think they cheated 955 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.440 him in that way. You know, he should have if 956 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:04.039 he got not didn't call off the fight, you know, 957 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.760 but you never got that chance, it seemed. Michael Bias Stoppage. 958 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.760 I always go back and forth about some of these 959 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:17.519 standing tkos because you know, boxing, there's more accumulation that 960 00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.239 you take than MMA when you have the ground game factor. 961 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.519 And we see how bad these some of these fighters 962 00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.480 are later on in their life with the accumulation and 963 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:29.360 being your brain moving around in your head like that repeatedly. 964 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:33.159 So sometimes I'm like, yeah, they should have just let 965 00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.440 the fighter go out on the shield. But then another thing, 966 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.679 I'm like, yeah, it probably preserving this guy's career further 967 00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.159 down the line. So I always had mixed feelings, but 968 00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.320 I think Rico was more with it. I think it 969 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:48.719 was slightly an early stoppage, but you know what they say, 970 00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:50.199 you got to protect yourself at all times. 971 00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:51.719 He definitely wasn't protecting himself. 972 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.920 So yeah, I'm always how is that mixed feelings about 973 00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.800 some of these stoppages, But like you said, we can't 974 00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.000 predict it, but it probably would it have got start 975 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.000 up in the twelfth round. But looking at some of 976 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:08.159 these coffee box numbers, Steve, I want to get your 977 00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:11.360 thoughts on this. In that first round, looking at total 978 00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:15.159 punches landed, it was a tie, which is crazy how 979 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.679 little these guys through who sicked through twenty two and 980 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.599 only landed two and Rico through eighteen only landed two. 981 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.599 So looking at the coffee box numbers, it's a tie 982 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.400 going and even in the second round they both landed 983 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:33.840 ten who sick forty one, Rico forty seven. So, like 984 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:37.239 I said, it probably was just look more impressive how 985 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.480 Rico was pushing forward and is on Northey Dox style, 986 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.079 awkward on North of Dox style, coming from kickboxing, but 987 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:50.119 looking on into the third round for total punches, Who's 988 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:55.000 Sick had landon nine and Rico only Rico landed ten. 989 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:59.440 So Rico won that third round, fourth round Who's Sick 990 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.559 and landed more punches, fifth round, Ustick landing more punches, 991 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.039 Sixth round, Hustik landing more punches, seventh round, Lustic landed 992 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.000 more punches, and then Rico landing more in the eighth 993 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:17.280 and the ninth and the tenth. But then Who's Sick 994 00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.679 landed more and that

eleventh and with the that knockdoun 995 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.400 of course that was gonna be a ten to eight. 996 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:27.239 So look at hand those numbers, you think. 997 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.519 It might have been a little bit more even than 998 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:31.039 what people are making their health to be. 999 00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.519 Yeah, because yeah, you said the first two rounds Ego 1000 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:41.000 Rico won those rounds, but they you know, it was even, 1001 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.440 So I mean there's something wrong with that. 1002 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:48.159 But also that's why I don't I kind of hate 1003 00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.639 it's no like set rules on how to score these 1004 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.800 fights because of course power punches and damage to count more. 1005 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:58.960 And looking at the those numbers with the power punches 1006 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:03.239 looks like but you know, they just have the total 1007 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.920 amount in the whole fight, so we don't know how 1008 00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.760 they were dispersed. It could have been like he landed 1009 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.199 a lot more power punches in one round war than 1010 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.639 other rounds. But the total power punches land Rico had 1011 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:20.920 ninety three to U six eighty nine, and uh total 1012 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.800 punches in the whole fight, he led it one more 1013 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.039 total punches. But like I said, that doesn't that doesn't 1014 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.119 tell a story on how they were distributed throughout the rounds. 1015 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.599 Because it was total punches landed, it was Rico one 1016 00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:37.880 thirteen to U six one twelve, so it's virtually identical. 1017 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:40.800 Usik landed more jabs. 1018 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:43.599 But look at just looking at all the numbers, it 1019 00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.519 looks that was closer fight than what people were crying 1020 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:47.239 about online. 1021 00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.079 You say about the actual numbers, uh. 1022 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:58.639 I would say, I say that it explains the situation 1023 00:56:58.760 --> 00:56:59.760 why people are arguing. 1024 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:08.039 Uh I guess we can say, yeah, she was certain 1025 00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.119 judges the judges were biased from what I'm hearing, Like 1026 00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.599 you said, how those punches were distributed, how many of 1027 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:19.199 those were power power punches and you know and versus 1028 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:25.760 like regular I can say that I can definitely see 1029 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:26.360 the argument. 1030 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.360 I can say there's some unfairness in there. 1031 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:31.440 And I don't know. 1032 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.599 As far as boxing culture, I wonder it's just like 1033 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.159 you know, if you got a home town person, like 1034 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:45.400 usually when somebody goes to Britain or England to fight, right, uh, 1035 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.800 they're most likely to get to them. I wonder if 1036 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.559 Oo Sick is good with that promotion to or or 1037 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.280 you know, Rico to whoever's they're betting on. You know, 1038 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.960 they're they're favoring. And I'm not trying to bring up 1039 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.440 boxing fraud, but I you know, you wonder based off 1040 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.719 you look at some of these pumpy box numbers and 1041 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.079 seeing the rounds one, you wonder what's going on behind 1042 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.719 the scenes or you can get a more accurate punch system. 1043 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:23.920 I mean, I get your point in that, but looking 1044 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.840 at the numbers, the judges kind of got it right. 1045 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.440 They just didn't get it right in the right way, 1046 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:31.559 if that makes sense, because they had a tie. 1047 00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:33.599 They had a tie going into. 1048 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.800 That that eleventh round and looking at the numbers, looking 1049 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.920 at the actual cause, like I said, it still doesn't 1050 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.360 factor in. I guess if you factor in if you 1051 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.400 consider power punches to be to score more and win rounds. 1052 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.280 But if you the judges, like I said, the judges. 1053 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.119 Had it five to five, but if you look at 1054 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:56.800 the actual coffee box numbers of punches landed Oosick one four, 1055 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.719 h Rika one four, and then other two rounds, it 1056 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:01.280 was tie. 1057 00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.440 So that that just kind of right, even though, like I. 1058 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.199 Said, didn't get it right in the right way, but 1059 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.320 they got ultimately they got it right. It was a 1060 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.639 tie basically go to the later house. 1061 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:14.519 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 1062 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:16.800 So I don't know. 1063 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.920 I think people like I said, sometimes I just want 1064 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.639 to watch the fight with the with the sound off, 1065 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.159 because they were making it seem like the commentators literally 1066 00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.599 said that Usik only won one round in that fight. 1067 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.079 Like I said, there's no

written rule of saying that 1068 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:36.559 power punches count more. And it wasn't like Usik was 1069 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.719 getting hurt, even though he Rico was laying in some 1070 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.639 good shots. It wasn't like Husick was like looking like 1071 00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.159 he's in trouble or anything. So what do you what 1072 00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:47.000 do you factor more like power punches or accuracy like 1073 00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:49.159 I feel like Usik might have been more accurate with 1074 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.559 his punches, So it's hard. 1075 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:52.519 It's hard to tell. 1076 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.519 I guess that depends the fight or that. Maybe that's 1077 00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.559 the all age old argument. It's those uh how punches 1078 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:03.800 are looking good and affecting the person. 1079 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:06.360 I think that's where they'll go with it. But if 1080 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.800 you're just sitting there mayweather styling on them. You know, 1081 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.320 that puts the spotlighted emphasis on that. So I think 1082 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.719 it's the style and which one is being input in 1083 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.119 more and you know, and sometimes both of those things 1084 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.199 stagnate each other out to where you can't tell somebody's 1085 01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.800 getting you know, their points. But then you get somebody 1086 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.800 like drilled with a few power punches, like which one 1087 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:32.400 do you choose? 1088 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.840 Yeah? Yeah, like you said, it's which one wherever you 1089 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.920 want to choose? But who stick was able to survive 1090 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.519 get the stoppage? What next? 1091 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:50.639 A lot of people are calling for a rematch, But 1092 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.599 how could you rematch somebody who's not even in the sport, 1093 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:56.039 like a regular in the sport, a kickbox like that? 1094 01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.039 Would you even be interested? And seeing hurree man? 1095 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.639 I can say because they were saying the first time, 1096 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.320 I mean you really see people have like hundreds of 1097 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.159 amateur fights and then not at that like professional fights 1098 01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:18.440 before you get your title shot. And they said this 1099 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:24.000 guy got his title shot pretty good. I mean he could, 1100 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:27.480 but based off of history, you could market the fight off. 1101 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:31.920 That that's gives new hope to people. Now, I don't 1102 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.280 think anybody can do that. You know, maybe maybe that's 1103

01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.280 once in a while, but you know, somebody just jumped 1104 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.800 into professional and and like you said, he's a tickboxer, 1105 01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.039 so he's not totally naive of the game. But uh, 1106 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.239 that's that's alcolade. And I think they can be floating 1107 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.239 around there that option just because like, oh, this guy 1108 01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:57.000 transitioned over and. 1109 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:04.079 I think but that who's uh you said, kot him, 1110 01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:05.440 So I mean that's the equalizer. 1111 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.000 I mean, like, hey, get him out of here, kyot him. 1112 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:13.000 So although they say it wasn't it wasn't a right 1113 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.400 to stop it, you still can be an argument. 1114 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:24.079 So after the fight, the mandatory challenger, the WBC Cabeo 1115 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:27.440 was in the ring like making this case to be 1116 01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.039 the next contender. But do you think that they would 1117 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.840 say just put that fight a hole for a rematch 1118 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:36.519 with Rico? Based the way I play out, I guess, 1119 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.760 or with the Cabeo fight probably happened next. 1120 01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:41.599 Uh. 1121 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:47.960 This Cabeo has big his has he been on a 1122 01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.440 terror getting a notoriety? And I say if not, then 1123 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.719 I would say Rico prossibly because that's the only fight. 1124 01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:00.519 I mean, people's question husick if he was in trouble 1125 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:00.760 or not. 1126 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:06.239 Right now, Kabel is a the interim WBC champion. 1127 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.000 He's thirty three, so he should be in a smack 1128 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.039 of his prime right now undefeated. 1129 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.880 So but as far as like knowing. 1130 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.000 Skulls, the only skull that I know, I would be 1131 01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.400 familiar what it is the Zang He beat Zang and 1132 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:24.719 we know Zang beat Wilder. 1133 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.960 Yeah. So other than that, it's no like notable notable 1134 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:33.239 skulls on his list, I would. 1135 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:36.360 Say, depending on the fighter, uh uh sik, if he 1136 01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.480 wants an easy fighter or a challenging one. 1137 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:39.280 Uh. 1138 01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.599 It's almost like those old EA boxing games. You get 1139 01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:49.280 to choose this fighter or or the less skills fighter 1140 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.360 for the for the same amount of pay or around. 1141 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:52.719 The amount of pay. 1142 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.480 I think it's his choice if he wants to take 1143 01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.440 a vak and I'm not calling to do the bum 1144 01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.800 but you know, I just way out your options to 1145 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.519 see which fight will give you the most money. And 1146 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:06.840 you know if he wants to go for a legendary 1147 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:12.280 fight or just get somebody off the the the hit 1148 01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.920 list that you know, aiming at the champion. So I 1149 01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:20.239 can say optional, I wouldn't see it as a important 1150 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.320 fight because, like you said, the only person that he's 1151 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:23.000 beat is same. 1152 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:25.559 You know, you kind of. 1153 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.679 Get the you don't get the credit, but you kind 1154 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:33.079 of get the credit of every person that person beat 1155 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.480 if you beat him. So like boxing math, he beat Wilder, 1156 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.280 So maybe that might be his argument, but. 1157 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:41.960 Significance I don't know. 1158 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:48.920 So looking at that fight us you think Usik may 1159 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.239 have tried to carry him in the early rounds and 1160 01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:53.639 then as the rounds went on, here like oh snapped 1161 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:56.440 this guy actually you know, got a little bit of skill, 1162 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:58.880 and then like kind of on it's getting later on it, 1163 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.800 you know, we you know, finally put it on in 1164 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:04.400 the later rounds. You think, sid this is my ten 1165 01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.519 four half. But you think Usik may have underestimated him 1166 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.199 and tried to carry him in the early rounds and 1167 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:13.079 was losing rounds and recoach banking rounds. 1168 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:13.920 Is that was happening. 1169 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.239 I think that may have happened, and he didn't expect 1170 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.039 it to go to like the eleventh rounds. He knew 1171 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.320 his first calculations. He probably thought it was gonna happen earlier, 1172 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:26.519 but it was like, oh shit. 1173 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.679 We're getting into the shit twelve round. And I think 1174 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:33.079 that it was like a small window to where you 1175 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:38.280 had to stick with the game plan and then it came. 1176 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.519 But I didn't think he expected it to take till 1177 01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:42.800 the eleventh round. 1178 01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.920 Yeah, we saw like not everybody could be Floyd. 1179 01:05:48.000 -->

01:05:50.719 We saw Floyd carry Connor in those like first four 1180 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.519 rounds of looks good, but then of course Floyd was like, 1181 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.119 all right, let me quit playing with the think Lusik 1182 01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.719 may have underestimated him, but some of the heavyweights in division, 1183 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.880 you think, I think like a Fury and josh may 1184 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.119 have been kind of looking at Chops a little bit 1185 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:07.480 like he does be a little bit, and USA. 1186 01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:09.800 He's getting up there in age. Was this maybe like 1187 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.119 a blip or you think this might be a trend. 1188 01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:16.199 With USA going forward as far as like underperforming, because 1189 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.880 we saw how dominicant he was against Joshua and Fury, 1190 01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:22.280 and he didn't look like that against Rico, some guy 1191 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:23.400 coming outside of the sport. 1192 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:33.559 I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say underform I think and 1193 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.400 then not only that, I mean you were outside. They 1194 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.559 were outside, Oh yeah, at the Gazer man. I mean 1195 01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.719 it's probably hot, so that had something to probably do 1196 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.039 with it. 1197 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.199 I was like on a social media thread before the 1198 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.719 fight happened, and I was like, I saw the entrance. 1199 01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:54.039 I'm like, I don't want to hear anybody talking about 1200 01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.599 the ring gear holding him down, Like wow, it did 1201 01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.920 because he saw like the Egyptian Roman Empire gear. 1202 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.840 It came down. Then I didn't see it. It came 1203 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:08.079 out with like three hundred type gearon mm hmm. 1204 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:10.280 I didn't see that. 1205 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:11.840 Yeah, So. 1206 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.239 But like I said that, I don't want to hear 1207 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.920 that big excuse. But yeah, Weather could have played a 1208 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:22.559 fact there. But I don't know if all the times undefeated, 1209 01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:24.719 you don't think who's sick. Maybe coming to the end 1210 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:25.639 of his prime though. 1211 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:31.880 Probably so maybe uh, maybe he indulged a little bit 1212 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:35.840 uh before this fight, because you know, he's been a 1213 01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.840 champ for a while, so you know that consistent. I think, 1214 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.320 what was it, Mike Tyson? What he say? It's hard 1215 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.840 to get out of bed or not, like Tyson said, 1216 01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:47.679 it might. 1217 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.599 It might have been one of the four Kings of 1218 01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:53.519 the of the of the eighties. It might have been. 1219 01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.920 It might have been Haggler or or sugar Yigar Ray. 1220 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:04.079 It might have been sugar Ray Leonard said that. So, yeah, 1221 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.079 it might have been Haggler or Sugary Leonard, or. 1222 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:14.559 Was one of the other four Kings be not Duran 1223 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:17.760 it was Hears, hit Man Hearns. 1224 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.399 Might have been Hitman Hearns or Haggler or Leonard that 1225 01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:23.640 said one of those that I said, I get, Yeah, 1226 01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:24.359 that's true. 1227 01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:28.279 Though, I mean, but he's been doing it for so long, it's. 1228 01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.039 Not like I definitely think that cool applies to McGregor 1229 01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:33.239 because McGregor was still in his prime and we saw 1230 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:34.119 kind of he slip. 1231 01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.600 But you can't really knock who's said he's thirty nine, 1232 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:38.680 here'll be forty next year. 1233 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.079 I know we see some fighter kind of hold back 1234 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.720 for all the time, but it's gonna catch you eventually. 1235 01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:50.439 And I'm kind of curious because him and John Jones 1236 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:52.920 about the same rage. I'm kind of curious how John 1237 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:54.560 Jones gonna look getting back in there because he be 1238 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:55.600 thirty nine this summer. 1239 01:08:55.720 --> 01:09:01.239 So it's sad, but it happens to everybody. 1240 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.279 But if he were to rematch a Fury or Joshua, 1241 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:07.239 I think would be a same results that you think 1242 01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:10.640 those guys can finally find the opening the win that fight. 1243 01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:18.359 Uh. I think they took, uh maybe a long enough 1244 01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:20.760 break from each other to come back to the drawing 1245 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.600 board to incorporate something different. 1246 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:30.880 I think, so who Joshua or Fury they since their fight, 1247 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:34.359 they kind of drifted off into their own lanes and you. 1248 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:35.239 Know, coming back. 1249 01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:38.039 So a lot of these other fights they've been in, 1250 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.680 pretty sure if they've downloaded some new things since then 1251 01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.039 to put something to the game plan the next time 1252 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:47.680 they meet up. 1253 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:53.439 So Husik beat both of them twice, Joshua

and Fury. 1254 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:57.039 So you think if you would have more success in 1255 01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:00.119 a third fight against Musk or joshuauld have more success. 1256 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.880 In the third fight with Damn. 1257 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.640 Joshua got hurt in with us, didn't he? 1258 01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:12.800 Joshua went the distance both times, actually both guys. Both 1259 01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.640 guys went the differance both times, and both guys had 1260 01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.039 a split decision with him. 1261 01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:30.159 Mhmm, man, I mean that's a coin tossing, Uh, man, 1262 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:35.680 that's a I would I would go with Joshua because 1263 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:41.319 of the youth, possible KO possibility. 1264 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.600 Or his power because I mean, I mean as far 1265 01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.239 as Tyson Fury, I mean, we're just gonna do point 1266 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.079 fight and not hurt him like his last fight. 1267 01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:54.279 So I think, I know, don't get it twisted though, Fury, 1268 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:56.479 even though he's not a one shot KO, he's like 1269 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.720 an accumulation TKO type guy. You know, he's not out Wilder. 1270 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.479 He finished Wilder twice, and he went on this like 1271 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:09.760 a between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two, like it 1272 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.000 was all finishes and that was how many one one decision, 1273 01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.800 but all other ones were finishes one, two, three, four, five, 1274 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:18.199 five finishes. 1275 01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:18.840 In that three year span. 1276 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:22.399 And so he could get you out of there. Like 1277 01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:24.000 I said, it's not gonna be one shot hell like 1278 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.039 a like a Joshua may get you or even like 1279 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:31.039 a Wilder, But I don't. I wouldn't sleep on through 1280 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.359 his power just because he's so damn big. He's six 1281 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:37.239 nine and sometimes he weighs to sixty two seventy going 1282 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:37.840 into the fight. 1283 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:43.479 M but you're still leaning towards Joshua having more success 1284 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:44.119 against me. Sick. 1285 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.560 Yeah, saying the fact that both of them went the 1286 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:55.800 distance and new sick, you know one against Tyson Fear. 1287 01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:59.680 I'm just going for the person that's it's more uh, 1288 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:04.920 a more acceptable tool or more plausible tool. And I 1289 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:09.720 don't think point fighting or accumulating damage on Usik would 1290 01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:14.680 work based off his

last fights taking care of himself 1291 01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:18.159 pretty good. As far as a defense, I would. 1292 01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.640 Say Anthony has to come in with a punch. 1293 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:28.359 So you think Anthony has to finish him or getting 1294 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.880 him out of day. He has to come with a punch. Yeah, 1295 01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:37.760 it has to hurt him, possibility. I feel like sometimes 1296 01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:40.439 Anthony is not aggressive, and I would like to see 1297 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:44.520 him even letting Jake Paul lasts as long as he did, 1298 01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.439 so I think he would have to come out with 1299 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:51.199 an aggressive style that really pushed the pace with Usak 1300 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:52.079 try to get. 1301 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:52.640 Him out of there. 1302 01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:54.359 But I don't know. 1303 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.760 I just think this might have been an anominally. But 1304 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:04.279 going back the people that come into outside sports and 1305 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:09.439 maybe the boxing around, we saw faces and Ghano look 1306 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:12.279 pretty solid against Fury, but then he got embarrassed by Joshua. 1307 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.079 But then we see Rico come in and look pretty 1308 01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:15.560 damn good. 1309 01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:17.920 Like, like I said, I was pretty much even do 1310 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:23.079 you think kickboxing is probably maybe the elite as far 1311 01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:26.039 as martial art goes, because I don't know if well, 1312 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:27.960 I don't, I don't want to put that. No, we'll 1313 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.399 talk about striking arts because we can't put wrestling into 1314 01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.600 that because of course wrestling and grappling. 1315 01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:35.600 We've seen that from UFC one. How elite that is 1316 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:37.159 if you have the ultimate person. 1317 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:40.199 But as far as striking arts, you then kickboxers maybe 1318 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.359 you have the advantage out of all the striking arts 1319 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.239 combat sports definitely if you. 1320 01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:48.359 Let kickboxing incorporate all its tools. 1321 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:49.399 Uh. 1322 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:56.359 And not only that, you have to learn boxing and kickboxing. 1323 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.000 And I know it wouldn't apply, but you see different 1324 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.279 and angles worried about kicks and stuff. 1325 01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:07.840 Uh yeah, I think kickboxing is very up to par 1326 01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:12.399 and based off of even transitioning because you're already dealing 1327 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:18.279 with hands, and you know that's what actually most kickboxers 1328 01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:20.960 bases is boxing to get off their kicking. 1329 01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:26.680 M Yeah, And I'm glad we didn't see it, but 1330 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.279 I'm like, I hope Rico doesn't like have a flashback 1331 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.479 and forget this a boxing and accidentally throw like a 1332 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:34.840 head kick. That would have been crazy. That would have 1333 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:37.319 been crazy, That wouldn't have been good. But yeah, I 1334 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:42.399 think just having boxing is the two bases is boxing kickboxing. 1335 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:44.840 That's the only thing you're focus on on the boxes, 1336 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.039 boxing kicks, Like even going the mood Tai, you gotta 1337 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:50.079 worry about doing knees and elbows. So just focusing on 1338 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:54.279 boxing and kicking, I think that probably set up Rico 1339 01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:56.560 for success, even though, like I said, that was a 1340 01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:00.239 little bit awkward as far as pure boxing. But yeah, yeah, 1341 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.720 I'm curious to see if they do make this rematch 1342 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.640 and what happens with both fighters going forward, because I 1343 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.720 might want to see Rico box againness just to see 1344 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.960 what happens, to see if it was just a fluke 1345 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:11.640 or see if he can actually hang. 1346 01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:14.920 But we'll see what happens with both fighters moving forward. 1347 01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:17.880 But before we get on out of here, something I 1348 01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:19.720 wanted to bring on, we were still talking about Benevida, 1349 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.600 but I'll tie it all together with Husick as well, 1350 01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:28.560 looking at it like the Powerful Poundless with Benavidez his 1351 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:33.319 performance and then USI's performance. They haven't updated these lists 1352 01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:37.239 since as far as esp Ango since May six, but 1353 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.279 let me go through it and see if your opinion 1354 01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:42.119 may change on how this list should be. 1355 01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.560 I'll just go through the top five. I want to 1356 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:45.239 go through all ten. 1357 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:47.439 Matter of fact, I'll go through the top six just 1358 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:51.720 to throw this guy in shits and giggles. So number one, 1359 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:56.119 of course, we've talked about this guy again their way, 1360 01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:58.600 in a way, we know how he gets down there, 1361 01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:00.319 in a way I don't know. 1362 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:01.239 I think he's pretty. 1363 01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:03.159 I think he's

undefeated if I'm not mistaken, but he's 1364 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:05.039 ranked number one in the pound for pounds. Then number 1365 01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:08.840 two you got who sick? And then number three we 1366 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:14.239 have Van barn Roriguez, Jesse Roriguez down there at a 1367 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:18.199 bandonweight junior bandnawaight still undefeated himself twenty three and soh. 1368 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.640 Then number four, that's when David Benavidez comes into play, 1369 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.199 thirty two and oh, I said, unified cruiseweight champions, still 1370 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.600 got a championship line everyway. And number five, of course 1371 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.239 Stevenson's undefeated as well, junior wealthweight champion. Then at number 1372 01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:35.159 six we got Devin Haney thirty three and oh, you're 1373 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.920 wealthyweight champion. So after this weekend, do you think this 1374 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:41.199 top six should be rearranged a little bit. 1375 01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:50.319 I should definitely say definitely. I mean you got Usick 1376 01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:52.640 still still winning and where is he at? 1377 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:58.039 That was so espn less us Sick is still number 1378 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:01.840 two in a ways number one one. Jesse Roguez he's 1379 01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:04.920 number three than Benavidez is four and answer cord at five. 1380 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:14.000 Yeah, I think that how and I think we even 1381 01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.960 talked about you know, although in a way as a beast, 1382 01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:22.720 is he getting the expansive quality of fights as far 1383 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:27.960 as like uh, marketing wise and. 1384 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:36.119 As far as no names, and I'm assuming he has 1385 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:39.720 more wins under as far as being undefeated than all. 1386 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:40.279 Of them, right. 1387 01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:44.680 As far as far as who goes that. 1388 01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.000 He's number one, as far as anybody under him to 1389 01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:50.760 be number one, does he have more fights. 1390 01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:57.199 As far as goes uh, as far as the A, yeah, 1391 01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:01.359 in a way, maybe that plays in the factor. But 1392 01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:05.800 I've seen fighters with less what that has less fights 1393 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.279 able to take the number one spots in the past. 1394 01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:10.439 But maybe that that plays in the factor. 1395 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.359 But if you look at that, though, Benaveez has more 1396 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:17.000 fights than Barz and whos sick, but he's still ranked 1397 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:19.000 below them. So I just think it it's the eye 1398 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:20.840 test that comes to in the

factor when you have 1399 01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:22.520 you talking about undefeated fighters. 1400 01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.279 Yeah, strength the schedule, I. 1401 01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:28.319 Think that I can think it'd easily used. It could 1402 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:29.920 be one and switch that around. 1403 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.479 Mm hmmm. I don't know. I don't I like to 1404 01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:35.319 see in a way go up some weight classes to. 1405 01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:39.840 Prove him something more. But I don't wanna. I don't 1406 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:41.720 want to be a prison in the moment. I think 1407 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:43.720 I'll keep in a way at the number one spot. 1408 01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:46.520 They's time sick this past weekend, even though you did 1409 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.800 get to stop, like you said, I saw little cracks 1410 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.319 in the armor. Yeah, but you would so so you 1411 01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.680 would keep. I know we haven't talked about a lot 1412 01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:59.239 of Baz fights, but he does. He looks good too, 1413 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:02.560 down and light of weight classes. So but you when 1414 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:06.920 after Benavide's performance, you win jump them up a couple 1415 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.359 of spots. But this was this the rankers came out 1416 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:13.840 after after Benavida's fight happened, but before the Usik fight happened, 1417 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.560 So they got after Benavida's spot, they got them all 1418 01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:19.479 the way up to four. But I'm just saying, based 1419 01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:24.399 on Usk's performance, I might I might be in prison 1420 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:25.600 on a moment, I think I might. 1421 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.560 Put Benaviez at number two, who's sick, three, and then 1422 01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:33.359 Bam at four, and then keeps your car five. 1423 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:37.760 I can, I can. I can agree with that. I 1424 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:38.880 can definitely agree with that. 1425 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:42.079 His powerful powel means that. 1426 01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:46.960 It's basically saying, if you don't take weight classes in 1427 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:48.920 the consideration, who's the best fighter. 1428 01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:50.039 And we've seen. 1429 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:54.199 Benavidez move up weight classes so in a short span. 1430 01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:56.920 I know Usik took the test because usick. You know 1431 01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:58.880 his Brandon Butter was cruise weight before he came up 1432 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.439 and to beat Josh in those guys, But that's been 1433 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:01.920 a while ago. 1434 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.159 He's been a heavyway for a while. 1435 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:05.920 We've seen Benavillez do this in a short period of time, 1436 01:20:06.119 -->

01:20:09.039 going going up to light heavyweight, doing three fights there 1437 01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.479 and now doing that cruise of weight. So you got 1438 01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:13.399 to put stock into that. That's why I think I 1439 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:18.399 might have him leap frog Rodriguez and who's sick. I 1440 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.119 don't know if you agree with that or now that 1441 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:20.960 I put it out like. 1442 01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:22.880 Like that, No, I can. 1443 01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.319 I can agree with that. Like you said, he moving 1444 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:29.960 up weight classes, uh winning we I mean probably done 1445 01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:34.000 more sport, done more things in the sport while undefeated 1446 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.119 than those other fighters, So yeah, definitely, yeah. 1447 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:39.439 I'm looking. 1448 01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:42.479 So they still got Canilo right the number or nine. 1449 01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:46.159 They got Boots in this at eight. I don't see 1450 01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:50.239 maybe because of the interactivity. I don't see Bevall on 1451 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:53.359 this list. Maybe because of the inactivity, but I feel 1452 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:57.079 like that's disrespectful. Yeah, you gotta throw you gotta throw 1453 01:20:57.119 --> 01:20:58.920 Bevall in there, and I think that's a fight, and 1454 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.239 I think, to convinced myself, that's the fight to make, 1455 01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:03.600 you know, even if I don't think that fight will 1456 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.520 happen anyway to Canelo and Benavidez, but I think we 1457 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:08.199 got to see Bevall in Bena Vitez man. I think 1458 01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:12.800 that'll be big fight within the boxing round. But yeah, 1459 01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.960 we'll be back next month, coming to the end of 1460 01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:19.319 the show. I hadn't even got a chance to look 1461 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.960 at all the fights that are on horizon. But we'll 1462 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.359 be back towards the end of June. I don't know 1463 01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.479 if you heard any news, but they keep. 1464 01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:31.039 Saying that the the Mayweather pack, y'all, is it gonna happen? 1465 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:33.399 Is it not gonna happen? I don't know any updates 1466 01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:35.479 on that from the last time you checked. 1467 01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:41.239 Not the actual fight probably. I mean I've heard it's 1468 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:44.880 rumors of things, maybe in Jeopardy, but you know, you 1469 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.039 more hear about news with Mayweather than the actual fight. 1470 01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:56.560 Yeah, if he's always gonna be in the news, that's 1471 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:59.720 that's Mayweather for you. But that's amiliar name. 1472 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:04.600 Young You know, she's fighting for the championship against Stephanie Hahn, 1473 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:07.800 a fight that's happening this weekend. I don't know if 1474 01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.119 you you this is on the Raider Holly Holm. It's 1475 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:14.479 gonna be fighting Stephanie Hahn I w w B a 1476 01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.439 lightweight title. So that's gonna be done down at one 1477 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:22.399 thirty five. And we are speaking of Bevall. Maybe he'll 1478 01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:24.640 finally put respect on his name and put him back 1479 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:29.119 in the rankings. Bevall's fighting Michael Effert this weekend actually, 1480 01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:32.319 so we'll see how he looks in that and of 1481 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.279 course if he wins in dominant fashion, people will be 1482 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:37.800 clamoring for that. In the Benavidez fight, zus for boxing, 1483 01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:40.680 they're always having fights that happen. That's happening on June sixth, 1484 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.279 we got oh speaking to Bam Rodriguez. We got Vargas 1485 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.800 and Rigez fighting for the bandamweight titles, so that should 1486 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:52.520 be good. Vargas is a gamer as well, so that's 1487 01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:55.840 happening in June. We got Boots in his fighting. There's 1488 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:57.920 some good fights coming up, some poundful pound guys on 1489 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.720 that are coming up. He's you know, Anderaiah's Boots and 1490 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:07.079 this is fighting on June twenty seven, and uh, Joshua 1491 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.560 he's fighting in July, so we'll have to do a 1492 01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:11.880 show at the end of June, so we'll talk before 1493 01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:12.640 the Joshua fight. 1494 01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:13.600 That's the end of July. 1495 01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:17.880 And then Spencer's finally making this long way to return. 1496 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.880 I don't know if that's on the same card. No, 1497 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.279 it's a different So Spencer's fighting Tim Zuo, who's a 1498 01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:26.000 former champion as well. That's happening in July the same 1499 01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.520 day as the Joshua fight, and one is happening on 1500 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:30.840 the Zone. 1501 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:32.000 One is happened on Amazon Prime. 1502 01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:34.640 But they happened on two sides of the world, so 1503 01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:37.000 I don't know how the time is gonna set up. 1504 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:38.720 They probably they definitely will be fighting at the same 1505 01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:40.159 time because one is Insauda Arabia. 1506 01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:43.520 One is Australia. And then they said, this. 1507 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:45.600 Is still on the docket, but like I said, who 1508 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.680 knows what it's gonna happen still Mayweather and Pak Yeah, 1509 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:50.479 I was supposed to happen in September nineteenth. 1510 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:51.840 I don't know if we. 1511 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.279 See it though, but like I said, there's a lot 1512 01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.640 of exciting fights going on in June, so we'll be 1513 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:58.920 back at the end of June to recap those fights. 1514 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.279 And in July, I said, Josh, we'll find at the 1515 01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:04.720 end of it. But siming to the end of the show. 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