Full Transcript for "Go Phlox Yourself" Hosts Holli & Leigh Ellen

podcasters. You may have noticed it's a crowded field out there, and this may come as a shock to you, dear listener, but none of us are getting rich off this. So why compete? Nothing to do but open the floodgates of love and appreciate one another in our infinite diversity and infinite combinations. So this evening we are gathered here to raise a brand new pod. And we gotta say, this one's coming out swinging. They've collabed with all of the heavy hitters, including three legendary Trek pod hosts. they take no prisoners. They have at least 13 verify question mark note from Damien episodes in the tank. So when this pod finally debuts, there l is literally no stopping them because it's already in the bank, it's being scheduled. one of them. One of our hosts here is our favorite Vedic, and the other is our new friend Holly. Please welcome to the pod the co hosts of Go Flox Yourself, Holly and Le Ellen. Woo. h: Live long and prosper. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha ha. Damizzon: Hello, hello, welcome. lanita (she/her): Welcome to the pod. h: That was way better and nicer than what I wrote. Mike Jones (he/him): Finally, the h: The dumb Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: shit that I came up with at one AM lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Checking my email, seeing if I missed something where I was supposed to email you guys back, but I'm not seeing anything. Damizzon: No, we no, we didn't copy you. lanita (she/her): No, Dama Zon sent a email Mike Jones (he/him): No. lanita (she/her): to Holly. Yeah, you weren't involved. Mike Jones (he/him): Because we know you, h: In C, that's why I didn't push her by all because I didn't know Mike Jones (he/him): but we wanted a little bio for h: if she was there or not. Damizzon: Yes. okay. Actually we're gonna do the rule intro for Holly, which is this Christian Regina George turned stoner Trekky Hail Hails from Texas and brought her Southern hospitality to New York City with big sex in the city dreams. She hates yoga and horror movies, but loves true crime and all the worst Star Trek characters. God. This is Le Ellen's intro. and all the worst Star Trek characters, it's Le Ellen Mitchell. So this is what we asked Holly to do. This is why we didn't copy Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Damizzon: you on the email. Because we asked Holly to write your intro. My God. I totally Mike Jones Leigh Ellen (she/her): I love it. I love it. Damizzon: the fuck out of that. h: like I was like lanita (she/her): Good job. h: is this too mean? Mike Jones (he/him): See Is this Damizzon: No, yeah, Leigh Ellen (she/her): No lanita (she/her): No. Mike Jones (he/him): too mean? Damizzon: welcome to our pod. We're not we mean is our love language. h: See, I'm not good at that. So I was like, how lanita (she/her): Yeah, that the what mean? Mike Jones (he/him): Mean is our lovely. h: yeah, so I like listened to a couple intros to like try and l get a feel for the vibe of what you guys do or whatever. And I was

like, how do I do this and like bring in random things from the past that I know about Le Ellen or whatever? Damizzon: No, you totally did so good. You did so good. And then okay, and then Mike Jones (he/him): No, it was great. Damizzon: now can I introduce Holly now that we've already introduced her. this native queerdo artist is a jackass of all trades, master of disguise, hailing from a school bus, hiding somewhere in your dreams, loves yoga and horror movies, but hates true crime and all the true criminal billionaires murdering our planet. True. It's Hollywood. Mike Jones (he/him): Hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): True. h: Ha ha ha Mike Jones (he/him): True. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Holly. Yes. Holly uses they them pronouns also. Yes. Damizzon: Yes. Welcome Holly. Mike Jones (he/him): Awesome. Hollywood if they could. h: Yeah, exactly. That was my stage I when I used to take my clothes off for money. Which I still do sometimes, but just not as often anymore. Mostly on the internet. Mike Jones (he/him): Nice. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Only sometimes now. Damizzon: can can we so the elephant in the room here feels like you're in a school bus. Can you explain that to us? h: Yeah. This is the bridge. Mike Jones (he/him): Have you been taken prisoner by Miss Frizzle? h: I have a I pretty much am Miss Frizzle. Mr. Frizzle? I don't know. lanita (she/her): Ha ha ha. Mike Jones (he/him): Mr. Frizzle. h: MX Frizzle? Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Mix frizzle. Yeah. lanita (she/her): Yeah, exactly. Mike Jones (he/him): Mix frizzle. h: my fifth grade teacher ran into my mom at the grocery store and asked if I was a scientist yet. And I that if that doesn't make you feel like a fucking loser, your teacher, your Damizzon: Ha h: teacher really expected a lot from you in fifth grade. And I'm like, I was like, I'm a scientist of life. Leigh Ellen (she/her): You built you built your own house. So I mean you've got that going for you. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, that's pretty kick ass. h: Science. Leigh Ellen (she/her): They just put like a roof deck on a couple weeks ago or a month or so ago, like doing Mike Jones (he/him): Wow. Leigh Ellen (she/her): like ironworking and stuff. h: yeah, I'm a welder. It's sick as lanita (she/her): That's impressive. h: fuck. Yeah, very gay. Mike Jones (he/him): Is is it mobile? Like can you drive it? Wow. h: Yeah. The captain's chair just has a backpack in it right now, so that wasn't a very good view but the lighting is not good. Mike Jones (he/him): It's very impressive. It's your own runabout. Damizzon: I love it. Alright, so so just so we're so our audience is clear with all of our chaos at the beginning. So Le Ellen and Holly host Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. Damizzon: a podcast called Go Flox Yourself that is an an enterprise Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Go flocks yourself. Damizzon: rewatch podcast. And I want to know, first of all, take us all the way back to the beginning. we we ask yes. Mike Jones (he/him): Wait, wait, wait, before

before we do that, before we do that, let's set the tone of the episode. lanita (she/her): Wait, no, wait, Mike Jones says no, you don't get to go. Mike Jones (he/him): We need to pick a card. We need to pull a tarot card for the episode. Yep. So Leigh Ellen (she/her): a terr a Star Trek tarot card. lanita (she/her): Who's doing it? no, Holly gets to do it. Lee Ellen doesn't get to. Mike Jones (he/him): Holly I'm running my finger along the cards. I'm and and you tell me when to stop. h: Okay. It was yeah. I'm sorry, I was far away from the mic because I was really honed in on the visual. Mike Jones (he/him): Did you say yeah? Okay. because you're looking. Okay, great. I think that was this one. lanita (she/her): Yeah. I heard I heard the yap. It was yup. Mike Jones (he/him): this is nice. Okay. So we have the Seven of Trichars, which is Dr. Nunion Soon in his old state. He was a scientist and lanita (she/her): Look at that. See, there's always something. h: Mr. Harrel. Mike Jones (he/him): Let's see, let me let me flip to lanita (she/her): Flip to the page. Mike Jones (he/him): The notes. Okay. yeah, so so in in so the the tricorders relate to the swords in traditional tarot. and the seven of swords is is someone kind of getting away with something, like winning a battle and walking away. so here, I think that this I'm not even gonna really read what Alex wrote, even though I'm sure it's wonderful. I feel like he is in his own school bus here, living his own life h: Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): and and is up to something and that is the energy of this episode. Damizzon: Okay. lanita (she/her): And it seems h: Is he posing lanita (she/her): very apropos. h: like this? Mike Jones (he/him): He's getting away with something. h: yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. All right. Sorry, Damien, now, yes, ask the questions. Damizzon: Yeah, so I wanna so we have a we you know, very often we get into what is your meat cute with Star Trek. I wanna ask what your meat cute with each other. Wait, I guess the first question is, do you know each other? Leigh Ellen (she/her): No, we just met online and decided to start a podcast together. No, I'm just kidding. We've known each other Damizzon: I think that's how it happens. lanita (she/her): No, but but that's how it happens. One of my favorite podcasts is people met online and said, we should probably have a podcast 'cause you're funny and I'm funny. h: The internet is amazing to like bring Leigh Ellen (she/her): that's funny. h: similar people together, you know. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, that's amazing. h: We're kind of a polar opposite kind Damizzon: But so all right, all right. So please h: of situation though. Damizzon: I'm gonna and we're not trying to sidetrack Lee Ellen because we know Lee Ellen very well and she's she is she is our most regular regular. So we wanna ask Holly to tell we all know about Lee Ellen from and if you've listened to any of our pod, you probably do too. So we're gonna ask Holly to tell

us about how she met Lee Ellen and how you know and Leigh Ellen (she/her): This is my tenth episode. Damizzon: now see, I Mike Jones (he/him): Woo! Damizzon: am talking to Holly, yet Lee Ellen is talking. It's fascinating. somehow this is predictable. Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha ha. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: And I've listened to most of the Le Ellen episodes. okay. Damizzon: I I'm sure I'm sure you were it you were sternly instructed to do so. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: Enthusiasti more enthusiastically than sternly. Damizzon: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. h: No, okay, so Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha ha. h: the beginning of Lee Ellen's intro about the Christian Regina George turned a stoner Trekie, which those are pretty much like polar opposite identities, it seems like, you know what I mean? When I first met Lee Ellen, oddly enough, it was at a stoner party. But she was like the hot blonde mean girl at the party vibe. And so like she Damizzon: Mm-hmm. h: was s sitting on a couch in the center. She was the center girl, hot blonde, with a bunch of other hot girls on a Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha ha. h: couch and like just looking hot like this, you know? And I walked in the room and I'm like, you know, queer dork, a total dork. I'm a dude, I'm a little boy, s n and also an eighty year old man trapped in a girl dork body. I don't know. So I like dork in the room and Lee Ellen the First thing out of her mouth when I dorked in and she was like, Are you wearing tidy whities? And I was just like, no. I just like Homer Simpson the fuck out of there. Like, who is this bitch? I was wearing white shorts. Might have been after Labor Day. Didn't know Leigh Ellen (she/her): They looked like tidy whiteys. h: the rules. I I would have worn tidy whities to a party also, so Damizzon: Ha ha ha ha. h: but yeah. And and then somehow magically, like my first impression was like mean girl. And then somehow magically, I don't know, I don't have a clue what happened, but it happened through the power of marijuana, I'm assuming. we just became friends somehow. And then we became like best friends and hung out constantly. And we lived right down the street from each other and we would talk on the phone like all day long. We could have just been hanging out in the same room sometimes, but we were we were just on the phone, like And she made me watch Sex in the City back then, so that's where the Sex in the City thing came from. I made her do dru like mushrooms Damizzon: I love it. I love it. Mike Jones (he/him): got it. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I did. I love that show. h: for the first time, you know, a lot of sharing of Damizzon: And how did it lanita (she/her): Nice. h: cultures. Damizzon: how did it come about that you desi you learned of your shared love for Star Trek? h: Well, my l love for Star Trek was from Little Kid Era, but we didn't ever talk about that really, I don't think. And then hers came later. So it just she grew into it and we

just continued our friendship and that just got added the was just added spice. Damizzon: So you all were friends before Le Ellen discovered Star Trek, is what we're is what we're learning. Fantastic. I love that. h: Yeah. We've been friends for a long fucking time. She was at a Christian Mike Jones (he/him): Well h: college when I met her. Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Wow. Damizzon: Yes. Wild. Mike Jones (he/him): My gosh. Damizzon: Wild. So so how did Mike Jones (he/him): So Damizzon: so tell us yeah, tell us the the sort of like you know the the seed for for how you landed on this podcast. Or how you how it came to be that you wanted to do Mike Jones (he/him): No. Damizzon: a podcast together. Mike Jones (he/him): Well, it sounds like it could have been a Sex in the Steady podcast, but h: Well I've lanita (she/her): Correct. h: You know, it's funny that you say that. One of my favorite podcasts is called Treks in the City. I don't know if you guys have heard that one. They're behind a paywall now, but in the beginning they weren't behind a paywall and it's the funniest shit if you ever f can find any any of it anywhere. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Holly's like always been pretty into podcasts and I was really into them before they were podcasts. Like I used to listen to the creators talk after episodes of Lost every week, like way back lanita (she/her): Mm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): in the day. And Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): then I just didn't like podcasts for like 10 years after I worked in comedy. And Holly would always be like, you know, listen to this podcast, listen to this podcast. And once I finally because of you guys actually, because of this podcast. h: It's literally because of you guys. She would never listen to any of the podcasts. I don't even think she's listened to my other podcasts. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, I started listening. I started listening. I've listened to like two Mike Jones (he/him): Ha! Damizzon: So what you're saying is once she had the opportun the opportunity Leigh Ellen (she/her): two. Damizzon: to listen to herself, she found podcasts interesting. Okay. lanita (she/her): Correct. Damizzon: Okay. Leigh Ellen (she/her): What lanita (she/her): we've hit the nail on the head. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Well, I mean, then I listened to like other podcasts. Like I've listened to most of you guys' podcasts that the three of you have done together and all the guests that you've had on. But because of that, I started listening again. And then Holly, for the last five years, has been like or not I guess it hasn't been five years, but let's do a podcast. Yeah, I guess it has. Let's do a podcast. h: Let's do a podcast. I literally begged you for five years. It was straight up five years. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Let's do a podcast. And h: And it and it was way before you guys that I was starting to ask her to do a podcast. And then when she got on you guys' podcast, that's when she was finally like, hmm, this podcasting stuff is pretty fun. So I actually credit you guys to the reason GoFlocks Yourself fucking exists because I begged her s for so many years and I always said the only time I would watch Enterprise again is if it was for a podcast because Enterprise sucks. So Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: But before we dig into that, I just wanna point out that the only reason that we have a podcast is because Mike Jones was already doing one with his original cast. lanita (she/her): Correct. Damizzon: So it all comes back to Mike Jones. lanita (she/her): That is correct. Mike Jones (he/him): Well and and I wanted to Leigh Ellen (she/her): The only mic that's working. Mike Jones (he/him): do a podcast just because I wanted to talk about Star Trek with friends and I the the only way I could get people to do that is to record it. h: See, I have the exact opposite problem. I have the exact opposite Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's fun. lanita (she/her): And look how well it's worked. Mike Jones (he/him): 'Cause then it was like a scheduled thing. h: problem. I'm constantly like, we have to monetize our friendships. What are we doing? Like everyone just wants to hang out. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha. h: And I'm like, why aren't we Damizzon: About h: recording this, you guys? I'm not trying to do a job, okay? Mike Jones (he/him): my gosh. That's amazing. Damizzon: Alright, so you you have you said you you you gave us a inadvertently very hot take. You said the only way that you would watch Enterprise would be for a podcast because it sucks. So this does not seem like a natural intuitive h: Is that a hot take? Damizzon: y it feels well it yeah, it feels pretty lanita (she/her): Yes, yeah. Cause there are Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: Ha ha lanita (she/her): a lot there are Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): people that like there are people that like enterprise. Damizzon: Yeah, it's and it's a kind it's a spicy take and it so it why why I I I guess the question is why would you do a podcast about something that is not something that you love? h: To basically g you wanna Leigh Ellen (she/her): well, I mean, for me it was because there's like it's Star Trek. We love all other Star Trek, so there's gotta be positive things about it. Damizzon: Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): And we both didn't really want to rewatch it on our own, you know. So it was like, I guess let's rewatch this one, find the positive things in it, but also like we're we're Queer feminine people watching this like incredibly masculine, kind of toxic masculine Star Trek. So we're gonna have a lot of not positive opinions on it all the time, Damizzon: Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): but we're also finding lots of things that, which is exactly what I wanted. I wanted to find the positive things, the like, that's Star Trek. Like, I never thought of that like that. I didn't remember from my first watch. So lanita (she/her): Mm. Damizzon: So

you're not hate watching it. h: And also now that we're familiar wi Well, a little bit. Basically putting a feminist Leigh Ellen (she/her): Let all. h: it's not hate watching because I don't do shit like that. I don't have the energy. But like it's Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: just a feminist dissection of the material, basically, is what I'm going for. And also making fun of it. Cause it's just fun to do. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. But like we've had a straight Mike Jones (he/him): That makes sense. Leigh Ellen (she/her): a a straight male guest, you know, our second guest, which is Holly has another podcast and that's the co host for that one. And then we've had like queer gay men and we've had queer women. So it's been it's all over the queer spectrum and also a little straight too. Damizzon: So just to be so how many have you recorded so far and how many straight men have you had? h: We've recorded sixteen and we've had Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha. Leigh Ellen (she/her): And we've had Damizzon: Wow. Mike Jones (he/him): Sixteen. Leigh Ellen (she/her): one one straight man. Damizzon: Wow. Wow. Mike Jones (he/him): Straight. How many straight women? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Just me, I think. Although question mark. Damizzon: She says question mark. Mike Jones (he/him): But in every episode. h: Chelsea. lanita (she/her): Qua exactly. Ellipses. h: Chelsea, we had one other straight woman. Leigh Ellen (she/her): we had one other straight woman, yeah, as a guest. Mike Jones (he/him): I I I love the idea that if you if you love something like Star Trek, it it's it it has to hold up to scrutiny. You know what I mean? Like we don't just blindly lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. Mike Jones (he/him): love it. We have to be like, Well, let's let's look at it and see if it is is you know you wouldn't be doing this if you didn't love it. If you didn't love Star Trek, lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): you wouldn't do this podcast. You know what I mean? Leigh Ellen (she/her): no, for sure. h: tattooed man fucking love Star Trek Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We went to a convention. We went to Chicago together to a convention in twenty twenty two and Holly got the Vulcan symbol on their chest. Is that what it is? The h: The Itic. It's the Itic. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Itic, yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): the itic. Damizzon: Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): nice. I thought about getting that. That's awesome. h: Yeah. It was fun. I was dressed. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Like straight up at the convention in the middle of the vendor hall. h: I was dressed like Jean-Luc Picard, so I like fully ass, bald, shaved head, dressed like Jean-Luc Damizzon: Yes. h: Picard, looking like a boy, because I am a boy. But then I think things like this are funny, like to be a little bit subversive. So secretly all day I had on this like lacy underwear underneath my Jean-Luc Picard outfit, but I wasn't really expecting to be like getting tattooed. So when I was getting tattooed, I was like lacy, sexy black bra, but like Jean-Luc Picard, everything else. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha Damizzon: Yes, lanita (she/her): that's brilliant. Damizzon: yes. Mike Jones (he/him): Amazing. Damizzon: Multiple we can be multiple things at once. lanita (she/her): Mm. h: yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: Can you tell us about like Mike Jones (he/him): That's awesome. Damizzon: the the structure of your pod? Like what are your do you always have a guest? Is it one episode to one episode? h: What is structure? Mike Jones (he/him): Mm. h: Yeah. Pretty much. some of the episodes Leigh Ellen (she/her): Do you wanna answer your editing? h: yeah, some of the episodes we ha are doing alone. Like two parters sometimes we're gonna do alone and we're we're ki we're ca we're in a chaos mode right now. Damizzon: Okay. Okay, so sometimes Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: it's just the two of you and sometimes it's the two of you and a guest. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, mostly like most of the episodes of season one are gonna all have a guest until probably the finale. And I think that's where we do the pilot episode together and then we'll do the finale together. And then the structure of the podcast has been changing and growing as we record and find what works and what doesn't and get more comfortable. Like in the beginning we kind of went scene by scene and did little descriptions and then we were like, let's just do a whole act at once. And then kind of sometimes it just delves into chaos and we start talking. about the end at the very beginning, you know, and we just get into it. Yeah. And then we have a couple little segments. Yeah. h: Usually. We're figuring it out. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We're figuring it out. We have a couple little segments that we do. which one of them I was pretty ironic. It was like our our second guest or our first ever guest on our second episode is the straight guy, Isaiah. And we were trying to come up with what kind of segments to do. And he was like, What if you do like a fantasy football like bridge crew? And we were like, that sounds cool. And so every queer person that comes on the podcast that I explain this to is like, what's fantasy football? How does this work? Like, h: Exactly. Mike Jones (he/him): Right. Leigh Ellen (she/her): why? And it's like, why did we pick this for our queer? Yeah. h: The straight thing. People don't know what this is. I'm like, think of Mike Jones (he/him): It's so funny. h: back to PE when you were getting bullied and getting picked last at Dodgeball. It's like that. You're lanita (she/her): Yep. h: picking your team and you're the captain this time and you get to pick first. You're Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: not picked last today. Damizzon: That's perfect. That's perfect. Mike Jones (he/him): Funny. Damizzon: can you tell us who so I have the feeling that we have some community overlap. Can you do a little like guest brag? Like who have you collabed

with? h: Jody. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I don't know if yeah, Jody. I don't know if Holly knows everybody that's been on this pod. I do. Okay. Well, Jody we had on. lanita (she/her): But you do, so Lee Ellen. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): we've had the cherub. We've had Austin on for Mike Jones (he/him): Cherub. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Dear Doctor. that lanita (she/her): It is his name and it will always be his name. Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's his name. Yeah. His episode was really fun. we've had Sunil on. We actually just recorded Sunil's episode, even though it's like from the very Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): beginning of the season. He's a hard man to schedule, I guess, unless Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): it's lanita (she/her): Mm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): unless it's 20 minutes before. Damizzon: Yeah, apparently so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): that could be everybody from here, other than the three of you. Damizzon: So you've had you've had Yes. h: We've had you gu yeah, you three. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, we've all been on. Damizzon: Yeah, you so you've had Jody Leigh Ellen (she/her): And then Damizzon: Pickens from the Clone Star podcast, who in case that is in case we assume that you know Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Damizzon: who we're talking about, yes. Leigh Ellen (she/her): And I have some other people that are booked for upcoming episodes. Like I've already reached out in Zinga is gonna be on an upcoming, Matt Jennings. Damizzon: good. Yeah, so this is and Zynga is you may know from in from having been on our pod, but it's also known as Holodeck Hose on Instagram and on probably more prominently TikTok. And Zynga is doing a lot of enterprise content right now. So it's so I w lanita (she/her): Yes, yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: when I saw that I was like I I hope you all are getting together. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, I've been watching her videos. They're so funny. S gosh. I'm I was like, I'm gonna watch through the videos of the ones that we don't have a guest for, and Damizzon: Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): whichever one I like her take on the best, I'm gonna ask her to do that episode. So that's what we did. yes, I think she's actually h: Nice. Nice. Is she just rewatching it right now? Like by chance or something? Nice. Leigh Ellen (she/her): she might not have seen it before. I think this is a first watch for her. lanita (she/her): Is it Damizzon: Interesting. lanita (she/her): mm I thought that I thought it was a rewatch for her because she hasn't Leigh Ellen (she/her): Is it a rewatch? lanita (she/her): I think it's a rewatch for her and also I think she's jumping around in series was it I think it I think she may be jumping around in in the series of Star Trek, but I think it's a rewatch for her. I think she's seen all of it. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Okay. Completionist vibes and then going back. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones

(he/him): It's been a long time since I've watched Enterprise. I realized as I watched the episode that it's been a Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha Mike Jones (he/him): long road. as I watched the episode that that we talked that we recorded on, I was like, gosh, it's been s it's been you know. I I it's funny, I I don't it's been so long since I watched it that I didn't think about it through the gaze of it being super male. You know what I mean? Damizzon: Yeah, lanita (she/her): Mm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): I like I just wasn't thinking about gender in that way. h: There's like two chicks. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, there yeah, there's like and you know, poor Hoshi doesn't get to do anything. so Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): there's really just Tapal who's, you know, wearing her cat suit and she's a good lanita (she/her): Yep. Mike Jones (he/him): actress is the thing. she does. She's she's Leigh Ellen (she/her): She is. She gives face. She gives a lot of face. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah, she's a meme, you know, like her with the T. Leigh Ellen (she/her): She's a meme that there's no memes of. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): There's she's very memeable. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Maybe we should make some of those. Yeah. lanita (she/her): You should. Damizzon: so I am I we've established this internally on our pod, is that I am not an enterprise watcher. I have I my I am lanita (she/her): That is correct. Damizzon: apart from Enterprise, my Star Trek is one hundred percent. And I have had trouble getting through it because I I have completionist aspirations that I just may just not have the follow through that Lenita has. so I sometimes have questions about enterprise that maybe like can be easily lanita (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: answered by a couple hundred hours of sitting down and watching it. but that seems like a lot. Well, a hundred, whatever, however it w it's a hundred Mike Jones (he/him): I don't even think it's that many. Leigh Ellen (she/her): hundred. Yeah. Damizzon: ish, right? Leigh Ellen (she/her): It's like ninety-four, ninety-six, something like that. Damizzon: Okay. but like for instance we we're in talking about our women on Enterprise, right, we have you so we have Tipal. She is a good actress. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I like her. Mike Jones (he/him): I think she's yeah, I think she's a good actress. I think h: You have to pay attention. lanita (she/her): From what I remember. h: It's subtle a lot of the time. Mike Jones (he/him): She's a very subtle Leigh Ellen (she/her): It's this subtle mm-hmm. Cause they don't give her lines. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. It playing a Vulcan can't be easy. Damizzon: Right. Because h: And that's why it's so good. lanita (she/her): Like you can't be doing so like you you can't be doing something else and watching it. Like that's what Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): I re so old shows, right? You actually would watch it. Like you wouldn't be doing anything else. So people could be subtle. You could watch the interpersonal connections. Damizzon: Mm-hmm. lanita (she/her): Now they make TV because they know that people are multitasking. There's a lot of description of what's going on and there's less interpersonal facial expressions and Damizzon: Yeah. lanita (she/her): whatnot for most things. Mike Jones (he/him): Less subtext. lanita (she/her): But I but I do think that they that in New Star Trek they're still they still hold on to that sort of like be an actor. Like act with your entire body, not just your voice, but like your face. So Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): if that helps. So yes, she she's decent. I was I was trying to remember. I was like, is there a dog is there a dog on this series? Was he being fucking was he like the hunts? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, Porthos. Damizzon: Yeah, poor of us. lanita (she/her): Yeah, I know. It was like the fucking hunt for Red October with goddamn Gene Hackman and that fucking dog on this submarine. Like and I was like it was stupid then. I was like, that's what they thought about? Like, let's put a dog on a fucking spaceship? Are you stupid? Like Leigh Ellen (she/her): they take the dog on away missions to planets they've never been for been to before. It's stupid. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. I love that. lanita (she/her): It's the d the dummy Mike Jones (he/him): I love it. h: They let lanita (she/her): A dog? No. h: him off leash. There ha there's not a leash to be seen in a a single episode. Leigh Ellen (she/her): No. Mike Jones (he/him): He's a good dog. lanita (she/her): I'm like, okay, yeah, that's fine, but like where's the dog shitting? h: I'm more worried about his well being. He's on a fucking alien planet. He could be eaten e so easily. Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha ha. lanita (she/her): Some eaten, exactly, exactly. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah, so easily gobbled up. you know, it's funny going back to w one of the critiques that that I've read that Roddenberry had of Lost in Space, which came out, you know, just after Star Trek, is that it wasn't serious sci fi because they had like a dog and a child. You know what I mean? Like it was it was like lassie in space, right? Leigh Ellen (she/her): God. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): then fast forward to T and G and we have Wesley Crusher and it's like, Well, you broke your own rule. You know what I Damizzon: Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): mean? And then they're like, Well, we might as well get a dog in there. I mean lanita (she/her): Well what's interesting. I don't think he did I mean, does he h: Wesley is exceptional. lanita (she/her): does he really think he's a child though? Like I mean, I when I think of children, I think of when like that episode where they all turn into actual kids when they're all like, you know, Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. lanita (she/her): third graders. Like those are kids. Like Wesley h:

It's a good one. lanita (she/her): just because like he's self-sufficient, like you can leave Mike Jones (he/him): That's true. lanita (she/her): him somewhere. You couldn't leave them when they all turned into like kindergartners. You you still need supervision. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): So So which h: Wesley's basically running the ship. Exactly. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Wesley can can be off leash. Right. lanita (she/her): So makes no fucking sense. W anyway, we're not gonna sorry. T and tar Uhhuh. I Mike Jones (he/him): Anyway, sorry, not to digress. lanita (she/her): I held it together. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Well, one of our one prominent guests that I forgot is which is silly that I forgot, but Greg Ray, who's been on Damizzon: Great player science guy. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Greg Ray the science gay. h: The science gay. Damizzon: sorry. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We have an episode with Greg where where Damizzon: Okay. Leigh Ellen (she/her): he came on and it's about like a comet. and he was like, when watching the episode, he was like, This doesn't make scientific sense. Like the size of this comet would not have the gravity for them to land a shuttle on it and like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so he literally like did out the math. And then kind of the idea came to have a segment with him where he can like interview scientific people that he knows, depending on what kind of question. we have for different episodes. So we're probably going to introduce Mike Jones (he/him): I like that. Leigh Ellen (she/her): him in the pilot and then he'll have a little segment in most of our episodes as well. Greg Ray, the science cake. Damizzon: Love that. So you're just gonna sit So you're just gonna lanita (she/her): I mean that h: Greg Ray, the science gay. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Damizzon: like do a h: We did that at the same time. Damizzon: So you're gonna like sit Greg down for like hours and hours and go and do a little segment for like each one of your episodes and then edit it all back in. Leigh Ellen (she/her): No. No. It'll be more like like yeah. lanita (she/her): Away missions, he he he gives Mike Jones (he/him): Occasional. lanita (she/her): you he like we ask the question of h: Away missions, yes. lanita (she/her): it'll be like, Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): here's the here's the question of the week. Sort of like when Neil deGrasse Tyson sat there and talked about the ways in which time travel can only go forward, not back situation, debunking all of I mean, listen, there's a whole thing about it, which I love. So Leigh Ellen (she/her): There's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense in TV shows with science, you know? You gotta be Damizzon: Yes. lanita (she/her): Yes. Leigh Ellen (she/her): like, Mike Jones (he/him): Sure. Leigh Ellen (she/her): is this real or is this what? And so we're gonna like give him a question. if he has a friend who's a like in that field or something, then he'll go

do a little interview with them. That might end up on our Patreon, and then he'll come on and give a little clip talking to Holly and I and like explaining the science of like what we had a question on. lanita (she/her): That's cool. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: It's gonna be mad fun. A as you know, I was supposed to be a scientist, so I'm very interested. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Listen, i you Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. lanita (she/her): still have time. Mike Jones (he/him): Doctor soon. lanita (she/her): You still have time. h: I'm a scientist of Mike Jones (he/him): So h: life, I'm telling you. I'm feeling good about I I settled on that. I was like, it's good enough. lanita (she/her): Okay. Okay. Damizzon: So I wanna know what has surprised you guys along the way, like in sort of finding your footing doing this and finding your dynamic with each other. Like have you encountered surprise ju and I mean about like your format, about your podcast, not so much about enterprise, but about yourselves and the way you operate and have you discovered things along the way? Leigh Ellen (she/her): I have a lot of verbal ticks that are really annoying. And then I go back and I I have been like listening to some of the episodes that I've done with you guys and you don't clip out a lot of it. And Mike Jones (he/him): We don't. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I'm I'm just, I'm embarrassed at myself. I try to stop it. lanita (she/her): Why? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Well, it they get when she once they're repetitive, when you Holly does most of our editing, which is the hardest part, honestly. But I even will get the edit. And I'll go through and I'm like, I say like too many times and it's not making sense and you can clip that out or I'm just saying yeah and Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: And then I'm like, guess how many likes I already cut out? Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha h: I cut out a third of them. And so the th they got two thirds left and then Le Ellen decides to cut some more, you know what I mean? Because sometimes Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha h: I will glitch out my Mike Jones (he/him): That's amazing. h: brain. And see, being on this, I was like, I did not sleep last night because I was anxious because because I edit myself normally. And so now someone else gets to be in charge of me. And so I'm like, when I glitch out, you guys are gonna have control of who gets to see my glitching out, you know what I mean? Cause sometimes I'll just be like, and like and like and like And like you know what I'll just say it like a hundred times within like ten seconds and my brain's just like doing a thing, you know? ADHD is really fun. Mike Jones (he/him): It's fine. Yeah, we Damizzon: Well listen, I I've heard myself take thirty seconds to answer to ask a question, which but it doesn't sound like a lot, but is a fucking eternity. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Love it. I don't give a shit. I feel Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. I d lanita (she/her): like like I understand that like we want this clean presti fuck that. Like we're Mike Jones (he/him): It's not human. lanita (she/her): it's not. And here's the h: No. lanita (she/her): thing: we're talking about something that we actually enjoy. And sometimes your brain needs a moment to like recalibrate and be able to actually get out what you want to say because you're so excited about the thing that you're talking about. So like I'm I don't know. I just h: And when I listen to podcasts, like sometimes if somebody pauses for a long time, I'll be like, Is it still on? You know what I mean? When Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. h: it's it's still on. Damizzon: Yeah, yeah. h: They're just the type of editor that doesn't edit that out. And I'm like, yeah, it's still on. Okay, here we go. lanita (she/her): I as I was saying, Mike Jones, leave it in. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. I try to edit out long pauses, but I mean I I find that, you know, I lanita (she/her): If they're super long, yes, but they're not bad. Mike Jones (he/him): I don't maybe it's because I'm not too critical of myself, because even just then I started three sentences and stuck with this one. But sometimes I will speak as if I'm a as if English isn't my first language and I'm trying to translate a word. But English is the only language I speak. I'm just trying to translate from lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): the like thread in my head into language. You know what I mean? lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. Correct. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): That's what I mean. h: I Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. So anyway. h: have a lot going on in here and it's really hard to like pr access it and then get it to exit properly. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. lanita (she/her): It's fine. It's fine. h: Ha ha. lanita (she/her): It's all fine. Damizzon: have you ever or have you yet gotten into a fight about the pod? h: I don't think so. I don't think we've ever gotten into a fight. Leigh Ellen (she/her): No. Yeah, we don't really fight that much, other than, you know, when I said that they were wearing tidy whities when I first met them. Damizzon: Yeah. h: And I wouldn't even call Mike Jones (he/him): Ha h: that a fight. See, I think we're both like pretty straightforward and honest. And so like if something's Damizzon: Yeah. h: bothering one of us, we just say it and it's not it doesn't become a thing. Is is kinda how I feel. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, like we've disagreed on some stuff with the podcast, but then we just talk it out and we compromise pretty well. h: Yeah, exactly. And it's like, I'm not willing to die on whatever hill you know? It's not that serious. It's a fucking podcast. We've been friends Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: Yeah. Yeah. h: for like how many how many years have we been friends? Like twenty fucking years or something. Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Almost twenty, I would say, yeah. Damizzon: Woo! h: So god, we're

old. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. That's awesome. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We're old. We're all getting older. Damizzon: Well, lanita (she/her): Yep, welcome. Damizzon: and I think that that is a dynamic Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Damizzon: that you don't encounter much. And I think that, you know, we have all I think I I met Mike Jones in two thousand eight, I met Lenita in two thousand. yes. lanita (she/her): That's correct. Damizzon: And you know that these you know, you you you don't encounter that a lot in pod like like I said, I think we like we mentioned earlier, I don't think it's unusual for people to meet on the internet and start a podcast and know each other only really as co hosts of a podcast. You know, and so I think there's something, Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, digitally. Damizzon: you know, I think we're so both our pods are kind of attempting the same thing is to sort of like harness a real life relationship and make Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Damizzon: that the access point. h: I feel like especially Star Trek nerds, it's like the exact type of people that Mike Jones (he/him): Speaking of real life, w h: go online to make friends, you know what mean? I've always made a lot Damizzon: Yeah, yeah, h: of friends online, so Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. Damizzon: yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Exactly. do you know the musical Avenue Q? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yes. lanita (she/her): Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): so there's a school edition of Avenue Q. and they take the song The Internet is for porn. lanita (she/her): Everybody's a little bit gay. Mike Jones (he/him): instead of the internet is for porn, it's my social life is online and it and it's about like Leigh Ellen (she/her): Feel like that's scarier. Mike Jones (he/him): it kind of is. It's about a different kind Damizzon: That's a whole other meaning. Mike Jones (he/him): of addiction. It is. It's a totally lanita (she/her): Correct. Mike Jones (he/him): different song. but that's what I just thought of then. That that played in my head and thank you for going on this birdwalk with me. do you guys ever record together? Are you lanita (she/her): We're bird we're bird walking. no you're Mike Jones (he/him): Are you where are you near New York, Holly? h: Not right now. lanita (she/her): Nope. h: I we might record we'll probably do some stuff in October. lanita (she/her): Nope. In the woods of Tennessee. h: Pretty much. Leigh Ellen (she/her): coming to visit in October and we were thinking about doing some like live something or other. Maybe not I mean not live yeah. Yeah. h: We'll be doing something. I don't know what it's gonna be, but we're gonna do some shit. Damizzon: Are you guys gonna do the ninety second street why? Leigh Ellen (she/her): No, God, no. No, no, no. Not like a live podcast recording. More just like we're gonna sit in the same room and h: That would be fun though. Leigh Ellen (she/her): do stuff together for the podcast. We haven't seen each other in person in I guess it's probably been like at least a year and a half or so, maybe two h: I ever since Damizzon: well. Leigh Ellen (she/her): years. h: so this ties into why we're I think it's a good time for enterprise because of the political climate right now is trash. And so I it's like a good reason to talk about the stuff that relates to also enterprise. Like it's a good a r avenue to bring up the fucking patriarchy and shit, you know? so lanita (she/her): Mm. h: I haven't been flying since the psychos have been in charge. Damizzon: Well, you know, it's an interesting point that you make about enterprise sort of being a parallel to our political times because there's a little bit of that you know, I think what we're seeing is that in our political climate is it feels like there's this population of people that was really put out to have to act civilized and to lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. Damizzon: appreciate people of different backgrounds from themselves and they were exhausted by that and now they have a permission slip not to. So it it it really feels like a parallel that they were like, you know, we had a lady captain, you know, we had a black captain, like now we're good. Like like like we're lanita (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: a little put out from having had to do that and now we're gonna go back to what we're comfortable with 'cause we already did that and we're Mike Jones (he/him): Right. h: It's literally the make Star Trek great Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah and h: again. Leigh Ellen (she/her): It it kind of is. It's I would I would I hot take Enterprise is the MAGA of Star Trek. Mike Jones (he/him): God. Damizzon: Russ R Mike Jones (he/him): Wow. I mean h: I just I don't even Mike Jones (he/him): it was like h: feel like these are hot takes. Mike Jones (he/him): That's so funny. Like h: My whole brain is a hot take, I guess. Mike Jones (he/him): W was in office, right? George W. Damizzon: Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): It premiered in September two thousand one, like the end of September, right after nine eleven. h: Right after nine eleven, Mike Jones (he/him): Okay. h: like a couple of weeks or something. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah, yeah. So yeah, he was definitely in office. and the whole nine eleven thing. I mean, the country made a big conservative swing after that. yeah, it is interesting. If you just look at the captain, I mean, Captain Archer is, you know, white cis American. Where is he from? Do we know what state he's from? Does he say? h: He's from New York, I think. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Is he? Mike Jones (he/him): New York. and you know, he has his Leigh Ellen (she/her): I think I think he is, yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): dog with him and they tried to, I think, if I remember correctly, they tried to make they tried to give him a drink. They tried to give him iced tea because Picard had Earl Gray, Janeway had lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. Mike Jones (he/him): coffee, and he drinks iced tea. I

remember thinking that was weird. And I was like, I think they're trying to make this a thing. Leigh Ellen (she/her): He does drink iced tea. lanita (she/her): So why isn't he from the south? h: I haven't even noticed. lanita (she/her): So why isn't he from the south? h: Yeah, no, and he acts like he's from the south. Mike Jones (he/him): I think I I swear to God, I think they were trying to make that like a captain thing. lanita (she/her): But that's why I said but that's what I mean. Like d being from New York, like you're drinking half and half. Like what are you talking about? You're not drinking. Mike Jones (he/him): Right? lanita (she/her): I see, like, okay, are you from South Carolina? h: It says upstate New York. Does that make a difference? lanita (she/her): it does. It actually does. It's not Manhattan. Mike Jones (he/him): It's a different different world up there. lanita (she/her): It's not new it's not New York City. Sorry, Damon Song. Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha. Leigh Ellen (she/her): where Damien's from. Damizzon: I'm from upstate New York and and I don't Mike Jones (he/him): Upstairs. Damizzon: drink ice. I and and you know the the the tea the ice tea that I drink is sweet tea that I learned to drink in the south, so Mike Jones (he/him): Right. lanita (she/her): This is what I'm saying. Mike Jones (he/him): Right, right. That's funny. lanita (she/her): Upstate New York. Okay. He's from Rochester or Buffalo. Not Syracuse. Yeah, when the hell's this thing coming out? Mike Jones (he/him): So what's your rollout plan like? So you've recorded sixteen episodes and you're never gonna release them. h: way before Leigh Ellen (she/her): Well, we're shooting for end of September. h: plan is somewhere September. Yeah, so basically around the Mike Jones (he/him): that's coming up. h: same time Enterprise started happening. Damizzon: Okay. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): And then an every other week release for at least the first six months or so as people maybe the first year as people start to catch on to us. So they don't have such a huge backlog of episodes if we're so many Mike Jones (he/him): Smart. Leigh Ellen (she/her): weeks in and they just heard of us or something. So wait. Mike Jones (he/him): That makes a lot of sense. h: The original series aired Mike Jones (he/him): And then like h: not the original series, but Enterprise aired on September twenty sixth. So hypothetically we could do that, but don't I'm not committing. Mike Jones (he/him): That's fun. So so like you're lanita (she/her): There you go. Let's see what day September Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): twenty sixth is. Mike Jones (he/him): so it's one episode per episode, right? Leigh Ellen (she/her): It's a Saturday. Mike Jones (he/him): Like it is a true rewatch podcast where you're doing your one each episode takes an episode of the show. So you Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): have at least ninety-six of these to do. Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yes. It's gonna take us many years. Mike Jones (he/him): No, no. You've already done you know, you're you're more than you're like halfway through h: For real. yes it will. It will definitely take a Mike Jones (he/him): the first season. h: We're gonna release every other week though. Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's true. But I mean lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): to release them, yeah. To release them it's gonna take a long time. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. to release them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. h: And to edit them. lanita (she/her): So then do you shy away from well, are you shying away from current conversation when you I mean, 'cause if it's gonna take you forever to release them, then won't things be past Leigh Ellen (she/her): Not really h: The patriarchy Leigh Ellen (she/her): we're h: is everlasting. lanita (she/her): I mean no shit, Sherlock. Mike Jones (he/him): Hm. Sadly true. h: Ha ha ha. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Be recording like kind of little intros that are we're gonna record them maybe a week or two before we release the actual episode to kind of intro what's going on. So if we're talking about something that was, yeah, Mike Jones (he/him): No, no. lanita (she/her): so like Mike Barbiglia, gotcha. Leigh Ellen (she/her): we can update it or or throw in a caveat about what we're talking about. Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Got it. h: Like the sound sucked on lanita (she/her): Sure. h: this app, sorry guys or whatever. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Or like, this is this is we're talking about Mike Jones (he/him): You can record that for us. Leigh Ellen (she/her): this strange new worlds premiere in Damien's episode, which was like already already by Damizzon: yeah, sorry. Leigh Ellen (she/her): the time no, no, I brought it up. I kept bringing it up. But yeah. h: I don't give a shit about things being current. I listen to super old Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: podcasts all the time, so I feel like who cares, you know? Mike Jones (he/him): Right. It's not a news pr podcast, you know what I mean? It's like you're already talking about yeah. Come on. h: Right. Definitely fucking not. Leigh Ellen (she/her): No. You're just we're talking about the episode. You're getting to know our guest. You're getting to know us more. Yeah. Damizzon: So is there anything about enterprise h: And take everything I say with a grain of salt. Damizzon: anything about enterprise that has has surprised you for the better? The things that you like about it that you didn't expect to like? h: I would say the majority of it has been way better than I expected because I hated it so much the first time. But now Damizzon: Mm. h: that I am familiar with all the characters, that alone like makes you already like stuff more because you know these guys now. So like I already Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Mm. h: know some of their character arcs and like the

character that I hated the most when I watched it the first time ended up being my favorite character by the end of it. Damizzon: Just two. h: So like should I say, does that ruin anything? Trip. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, say it. No. Damizzon: No, we'll forget. okay, good. Okay. Mike Jones (he/him): A trip. Damizzon: Okay. Now h: I I hated Leigh Ellen (she/her): We love trip. h: him the first round. And the and by the end of it I like, I fucking love this guy. His arc was super sick. So now from basically the f s first or second episode I already was liking him because I know he g he's gonna be even lanita (she/her): Mm. h: better later. So I'm loving him. Actually he's like one of my favorite characters. It's really funny. Damizzon: To me I think of this as the as the Mike Jones (he/him): I mean. Damizzon: Julian Bashir model, right? So that they they brought you know, that we he was so cringy in Emissary, the pilot for Deep Space Nine, right? And that over but they knew what they were doing, they knew that they were creating a character with room to grow and that over you know, the seven years he becomes a formidable person and a great character, I think. A character who I like. h: And that's when you know a show's so fucking good. Damizzon: Yeah, but now I also in fairness to Enterprise, you know, all of these Star Trek series seem to assume a seven year arc, right? And they they didn't get that. So they you well of Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Hm. Well they used to. Damizzon: course yeah, but at that point they had assumed, right? They were the they would have been the fourth one in a row to do seven years had they managed that. I realize lanita (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: you guys are still very early on in your rewatch, so maybe a a larger arc question isn't really fair at this point. But Do you do you feel like that g I guess you already have answered that, that you you that you it gives you a a bigger a sense of generosity in taking these characters in and that you know that there's a Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: And I can pay attention to subtle details more too. Like to Paul's acting is more obvious Leigh Ellen (she/her): Mm-hmm. lanita (she/her): Mm. h: to me this round. Mike Jones (he/him): Mm-hmm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Which it wasn't to me the first time around. And I would also have to agree with Holly. Like I've I'm I've been pleasantly surprised at how much I have been enjoying almost all the episodes. And I like we we joke about, you know, the female characters not getting any roles or any lines, but they do actually save the day more often than not. And the the female characters actually do kind of play somewhat of a bigger role, even if it's It's just in comparison, h: So far anyway. Leigh Ellen (she/her): yeah, so far, so far. Damizzon: you know, a lot of what we see in Star Trek and nineties well even TOS on through most of nineties Star Trek is that the characters tend to be unrealistically fearless, right? That ever every everybody is in a life or death situation and that they don't ever that they don't experience fear really. There's like maybe a Harry Kim who seems to be afraid here and there, but like but in Enterprise, Hoshi feels terrified all the time. Leigh Ellen (she/her): All the time. Damizzon: and I and I would go back to someone like Harry Kim. To me, Harry Kim is one of the bravest characters because he perseveres through fear, right? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Anyway. Damizzon: I kind of have that question about Hoshi. Like Hoshi, to me, and as a non-completionist, so y y ho you guys maybe can't answer this just from having watched it, does Hoshi ever get less scared? Does Hoshi grow out of that? Because it it is Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. She grow Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I think she's been growing and she grows towards the end. I've only watched through the I've only rewatched through the end of season one, so I don't remember much of what happens. Damizzon: Right, right. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): But she definitely, even from the beginning, I we were just editing and I was listening to the second episode where she's like, Get me out of here. I wanna go back to Earth. Like, I think I'm gonna quit. And we're at sixteen episodes later at a totally different place. Like she's like, you know what? I will actually volunteer to go on this mission because I can, you know, so it's she grows and I like that. h: But yeah, the being scared was very annoying to me at first because the reason she's out there is because Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: Archer coerced her into going. Like she kept telling him no. But yeah. Like she she was happy doing her whatever. Damizzon: Yeah. Well Leigh Ellen (she/her): But it's also the the most Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): relatable. I think it's relatable. I would be scared. This is the first time anybody's Mike Jones (he/him): sure. Leigh Ellen (she/her): taken a spaceship like away from the soul system, you know. Like this is the first time that we've encountered all these species. Like I would I would be terrified. I totally relate to Hoshi. Damizzon: Right. And and we saw that I mean the episode that I watched with you guys Sh Shuttle Pod one is like a very basic, like stuck in a shuttle in space with n oxygens running out kind of story. And h: Yeah. No hoshi. Damizzon: there's no Oshi. But what's his name? Malcolm is maybe not scared, but he is very it it is in a very realistic, like coping with impending death kind of way that we don't usually get in Star Trek. So I think that is Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: interesting to me and I s I you know, I see where they're Where they where they're trying to go. h: Yeah, I yeah, I think just because it's the beginning of the timeline or whatever, it's like the humans are more scared. And this is what you guys might Mike Jones (he/him): sure.

h: be like, relatable to the audience. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. It didn't and it is to me. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Are there any unpleasant surprises? h: Huh. Mike Jones (he/him): Like you know, like you thought something like, I I didn't remember how annoying Malcolm Reed is or whatever. h: Well, yeah, kind of actually, with Malcolm. Leigh Ellen (she/her): didn't remember how sexual Flox was. Like Flox Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, okay. Leigh Ellen (she/her): is so sexual. So Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): actually, the it makes the title of our podcast a little bit more relevant, but like he's always just like, can I watch you humans copulate? That would be really great. And it's like, yeah. That shocked me. Mike Jones (he/him): He's a swinger. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I remember. being you know he's polyamorous his species is but it's he's just so into studying h: He's a bit of a creep about it. Leigh Ellen (she/her): yeah he's kind of a creep about it h: He's like the pheromones. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Well and he he has that crazy big smile that they kind of stopped doing because it was like expensive, I guess, special effects wise. But like can you just imagine that big creepy smile as he's like watching you like go at it? lanita (she/her): No, you're not a fucking Cheshire h: No thank you. lanita (she/her): Cap. No, thank you. h: That's what I was Leigh Ellen (she/her): We're working h: about to say. It's like when the cat's in the room and you're trying to fuck, you're like, please get out, cat. You're stop staring at us. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. We're we're we're trying to lanita (she/her): Yeah, we can't. Leigh Ellen (she/her): work a version of that smile into our logo, which isn't finished yet, but it's kind of like a spacey version Mike Jones (he/him): Nice. Leigh Ellen (she/her): of the smile. Damizzon: How do they do that smile? Is that lanita (she/her): It's so creepy. Damizzon: a CGI thing? Is it like a Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): It's super CGI. The CGI Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): in this series is awful. It's all just really, really bad. Mike Jones (he/him): nineties T V CGI h: It's really fun and funny. Yeah, like very X Files vibes. Damizzon: Yes. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah, yeah, like Andromeda. lanita (she/her): X Files was great. h: Yeah, I agree. No, I love X Files. lanita (she/her): Listen, a pox on your house. X Files was amazing. h: I have a Mulder right there. Mike Jones (he/him): it's great. h: Fox Mulder is right behind me. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Shell. Mike Jones (he/him): Alright, so Holly, this is your first time on the pod, and there are questions that we ask all of our guests. lanita (she/her): Disappearing. Goodbye. And back. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yay! I've been looking forward to this. lanita (she/her): Ha ha ha Damizzon: Now you have to know that as we as as Mike and Lenita and

I discussed this, we lanita (she/her): yeah. Damizzon: the immediate topic became our friend Liellen. And could Lielen let Holly answer the questions without having her own answers? Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yes! Yes! I've already answered this. I did this like a couple years ago. Mike Jones (he/him): You did. Damizzon: Could possibly be a couple of years or now? h: I'm the interrupter, I think. I interrupt the most. It's 'cause I get excited. Damizzon: Also also I just want to point out that if you are Mike Jones (he/him): That's that. That's that's a podcast. Damizzon: if you are listening to the audio version only of this, Holly is giving some major Nala Ake vibes. has not sat in a chair in a normal way yet. We're getting knees, we're getting we're getting wiggles, lanita (she/her): Nope. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. Damizzon: we're getting squibs, and now we've lost the face and we're just getting socks. Shaking sh shaking socks. So so lanita (she/her): Shaking thighs. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Legs and socks. h: Stripper moves. Mike Jones (he/him): Right. Tube sock realness. Damizzon: As we have come to learn the power of the inability to sit in a chair, Holly is embodying that beautiful h: I'm on the spectrum. It's hard to be still. But oddly enough, I was a living statue. Right? But I did living statue as a Damizzon: This is this is why we're all drawn to Star Trek. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): I get it. Right. Like swiveling. h: gig for years. So so I can be completely Mike Jones (he/him): wow. h: I can I'm only it's one or the other. Completely still or moving constantly. There's no in between. lanita (she/her): Mm mm. The dictator in my house is exactly like that. Mike Jones (he/him): Well, you can't do that on because we would think you're frozen. lanita (she/her): That is correct. Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's true. Mike Jones (he/him): All right, all right. lanita (she/her): Here we go. Mike Jones (he/him): If you could have dinner with three characters, the characters, not the actors, who would it be and why? They were frozen for a moment. h: Okay. This is that yeah, that was me doing Living Statue. it wasn't real, thank you. I was just showing me you my skills. So I feel like it's always gotta be Troy. Damizzon: These are delay tactics. h: Yeah, Troy's gotta be in there. Damizzon: Right. h: I this all okay. Mike Jones (he/him): Deanna. h: This is yeah, mm-hmm. So this is what happens every time we do fantasy bridge crew is my crew is just my orgy fantasies. So that's pretty much where we're going with this. lanita (she/her): Okay. And all right, who said that it didn't it couldn't be? Damizzon: Wait, this is 'cause you have a boner for Troy? Is that where we're going with this? Is this Okay. I'm sorry, I was lanita (she/her): Yep. h: I have a boner for pretty much Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: all women. I love women. Women are great. I think all women Damizzon: Mm. Okay. h: are beautiful, perfect, and just I worship w the ground they walk on, basically. I love women. So and there's so many good women in Star Trek. I mean, holy shit. So many badasses. So many. So I'm gonna have to go with Beverly Crusher. I mean, lanita (she/her): Okay. h: come on. And Captain Catherine Janeway. It's gotta be Captain Janeway. I and you know, I think a close next one would be Jedzia Jedzia. She's high on the list too. but those first three, they're like the babes of all the babes that I just want to eat f Mike Jones (he/him): Jets yeah. h: food with. It was what I was gonna say. But then I was gonna let you finish. I stopped my lanita (she/her): Full stop. Full stop. Full stop. Mike Jones (he/him): Mm, thank you. Good pause. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, uhhuh, uhhuh. h: sentence at a weird place. I genuinely Damizzon: Wait, is it lanita (she/her): No you Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): didn't. It was perfect. No, you didn't. Your brain Leigh Ellen (she/her): It's perfect. lanita (she/her): said that was it to eat. Moving on. Mike Jones (he/him): no, I think Jadzia is is often an answer in when we ask this question. Everyone wants to eat with Dax. Damizzon: Yeah, Gen Z is our most common. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Yes, h: She lanita (she/her): because you wanna talk about h: would have a lot of good stories. lanita (she/her): all of the lives. Correct. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: Yeah, exactly. You wanna talk to Dax. Damizzon: I this this is not this is not a question. This is not an official question, but is this is this dinner list all also giving us your fuckability list and in that order? h: There's the list the fuckability list is very long. I'm try having a hard time thinking of a chicken Star Trek right now that I wouldn't get into. Damizzon: Meu Deus. Mike Jones (he/him): Moogie. h: They're all really hot Leigh Ellen (she/her): Cass. h: and cool. They're all badass. I Leigh Ellen (she/her): Cass. h: mean, Kess I'm not a fan of, and the win, I'm sorry. Kai win I fucking hate. Damizzon: She's a she's a child. lanita (she/her): Yeah, y it's okay. We Mike Jones (he/him): Child. h: Yes, exactly. And honestly, Kira is a little aggro for my taste, although she's dichodelic, so it could be good. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Dichodelic. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. I mean h: I'm not saying no to pretty much any Star Mike Jones (he/him): she's a total terrorist. h: Trek chick. We got the Dabbo babe. Come on. There's yeah, there's so many, Leigh Ellen (she/her): Chase Masterson. lanita (she/her): yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, yeah, Marta. h: dude. Seven. The Borg Queen. You don't need a bottom half. There's a lot you can do with the top half. lanita (she/her): Yeah. Damizzon: I I was gonna say you have yet to mention seven of nine, which is like which is I would think Mike Jones (he/him): She said seven. Damizzon: should it? lanita (she/her): Two said seven. Mm-hmm. h:

They're all hot, man. Dude, I'm just listing all the ch all the chicks. lanita (she/her): Yep. Said women. All women. Mike Jones (he/him): So h: Whoopee, come on. Like every single one of them. Mike Jones (he/him): Whoopee. h: Balana, all of Sorry. lanita (she/her): So the only two that we've Mike Jones (he/him): Cura. lanita (she/her): we we've X'd out are Kess because gross and Kai Wynn. h: Yeah. And I love grannies. So Mike Jones (he/him): I went. h: it's not because she's old. It's just because she's a bitch. Mike Jones (he/him): Okay. Okay. Moogie's okay. Quark and Rom's mother. Damizzon: Mo Moogie's okay. Leigh Ellen (she/her): She's a horrible person. Moogie is Quark's mom. lanita (she/her): She's horrible. Who the fuck is Moogie? h: But who? Damizzon: Work course. h: Yeah, she's a badass. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Moogie. lanita (she/her): Ferengi. h: Are you kidding me? She's a badass dude, walking around naked. I wanna Damizzon: Yeah, she's she's she's been asked. Mike Jones (he/him): She is badass. lanita (she/her): Ferengi. h: cosplay her so bad. Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. All right. If you lived in the twenty fourth century, or any century, h: Wait, hold on. The dinner question, we're still on the dinner question, because the most important Mike Jones (he/him): okay. h: thing about the dinner question is the food and the location, which I feel like needs to be on RISA. And I wanna eat every single of one of their favorite foods. I want them to all be presented with their favorite foods. And and pretty much I wanna watch eat it. Is I don't even have to eat. I j I lanita (she/her): So you're a feeder. Okay, we're learning so many things. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Holly loves mukbongs. h: A feeder, Damizzon: Gunj h: but I like mukbang. Yeah. Damizzon: is this a is this gange? Mukbang mukbang Mike Jones (he/him): This is good. h: Yeah, so I'm not a feeder, but I love mukbang. And not even in a sexual Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha h: way. I just love food. And so I like to watch people enjoy food because I know food is so good. Food is the n my number one favorite thing. And sex is pretty much my number two favorite thing. So the I've Mike Jones (he/him): I mean, we've seen Troy eat a chocolate sundae and like really Damizzon: Yeah, yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): explain how she's h: She loves her chocolate. Mike Jones (he/him): doing it. Yeah. Damizzon: Mike is in my head on that one. Yep. Yep. lanita (she/her): Ha ha. h: And that's why it's always Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: gotta be Troy. She was number one on the list. anyway, so so go on to your next question. I'm so sorry. Mike Jones (he/him): Okay. Damizzon: I learned I I learned this weekend, by the way, that my brother had a thing for Deanna Troy all of these years. I had no idea. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Which I I made a point of pointing out that his brother dressed up as Tasha Yar at wait, no, Damizzon: Yes, yes. wait, no wait but h: Another hot one. Leigh Ellen (she/her): you said Deanna Troy. He also mentioned Tasha Yar. And I was like, does it Damizzon: Yeah, Tasha Yar was the first one that he mentioned as being hot, yes. Leigh Ellen (she/her): does it make you feel Mike Jones (he/him): Wow. Leigh Ellen (she/her): any type of way that your brother dresses up as Tasha Yar? h: What was his answer? Damizzon: He didn't care. Leigh Ellen (she/her): no, his answer he didn't care. Damizzon: Yes, yeah. h: Tasha Yar also hot. I had a big crush on her for sure. Mike Jones (he/him): Also right. All right. If you lived in the twenty fourth century h: I know you're a Tasha Yar hater, Lenita. You're shaking your head. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Mike Jones (he/him): I know. lanita (she/her): I don't hate her, just not a fan. Go ahead, Mike Jones. I'm sorry if you lived in the twenty first century. Mike Jones (he/him): What would your life be like? Would you join Starfleet? Would you stay on Earth? Would you h: kind of impossible to say really. Mike Jones (he/him): Live in a shuttle craft. h: That could be my vibe. This is my shuttlecraft. You know what I mean? If we were all in space, I definitely wo would have my own little pod, you know? And it would be pimped out like Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. You're a little Delta Flyer. h: like seventies style or something, it would be like way not this boring ass gray bullshit that's in all of the Star Trek everything. Like that's one of the things from watching Enterprise that Tripp makes a comment about how he could make the piece he's making any color for the whatever he's building and the wherever the fuck he's building it. And I was like, you can make this shit any color? Like why is everything gray, man? Y'all are boring as hell. Mike Jones (he/him): Good question. h: Wait, so what was the question? Would I be Leigh Ellen (she/her): The question Mike Jones (he/him): w what would you what would your life be like if you lived in the future? h: Fuck if I know, man. I don't even know what my life's gonna be like tomorrow sometimes, you know what I mean? I would probably be an artist weirdo just like I am today. Leigh Ellen (she/her): like stay on Earth Mike Jones (he/him): Excellent. Leigh Ellen (she/her): and do that or you would be in a spaceship doing that. h: I mean, if it was easy, you know, like it seems to be, I think I could be get down with it. But I can also see myself being like, I don't need to. It just depends, I guess. It depends I f on if I was born and privileged and raised in a way that I could get on a starship because the reality that I live in right now, I was I have like ancestral trauma from being Choctaw and so, you know, I live in the poverty. You feel me? So if my ancestors Yeah, so if my ancestors had worked some shit out. Yeah, Leigh Ellen (she/her): You're giving like Firefly it's giving Firefly cargo ship. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. Firefly. h: I'm way more of a like tank lanita (she/her): Yeah. h: girl type energy, so if we're at that era in the future, I could be tank

girl, you know what I mean? Like I'll I'm apocalypse ready, that's for sure. But it depends Damizzon: Still there. Mike Jones (he/him): Excellent. h: on how what the future's like. I would adapt. Whatever Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha h: it is. Is that the right answer? Mike Jones (he/him): All right. No, that's great. I love it. Damizzon: That's a great answer. lanita (she/her): All answers there listen, there are no right or wrong answers. Well, there's Mike Jones (he/him): There's no right. lanita (she/her): only one, but there's only one question that has a right or wrong answer. But everything else, all you. Damizzon: You'll know when we're you'll h: Ooh, now I shit. Damizzon: know when we get there. And she's Mike Jones (he/him): You'll never we get to it. Leigh Ellen (she/her): And I got it right. Damizzon: gonna she's gonna lean forward and wait to hear your answer and you're gonna know that the stakes are high for her. lanita (she/her): That is That is correct. h: I gotta go to the bathroom. This is why I didn't sleep last night. Mike Jones (he/him): It's not this one. what is your go to holodeck lanita (she/her): Ha ha ha ha ha. Mike Jones (he/him): program? h: fuck. It would have to be something porn. I mean sex related. Or mukbong. Mike Jones (he/him): Sure. h: You know what I mean? It would be some hot sex somewhere really Mike Jones (he/him): I mean that's what the holiday's for. Damizzon: Both. h: picturesque and there would definitely be food. lanita (she/her): Okay. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: Food, sex, beautiful scenery. lanita (she/her): Those hidden those hid those Mike Jones (he/him): Love that. lanita (she/her): hidden tiles that Quark has. The the the f the one the ones on the side, like go to the bottom drawer. Yeah, the bottom drawer, Quark. The bottom drawer. h: Yes, exactly. That's what the the majority of the people are doing in there. Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Food sex scenery. That's like that's life. Right. all right. Crusher or Pulaski? h: For sure. As a matter of fact, I think Mike Jones (he/him): You're like you said that as if who would ever say Pulaski. h: Pulaski might have just had been added to the list of the ones I would not get into. lanita (she/her): Okay. We're up to three. Okay. Mike Jones (he/him): wow. h: She's not my brand of old lady either. That doesn't surprise me. Leigh Ellen (she/her): picked Pulaski. I picked Pulaski on mine. h: is this the important question? shit. Leigh Ellen (she/her): No no. Mike Jones (he/him): No. lanita (she/her): No, not at all. Damizzon: No. lanita (she/her): Nope. h: I love redheads. Mike Jones (he/him): I think I might know this one. She was kind of a strawberry blonde. lanita (she/her): Who? Mike Jones (he/him): Right. Are you doing Klingon Tai Chi with Wharf or Leotard Yoga with Beverly Indiana? h: What do you think? Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha. lanita (she/her): I'm gonna say yoga. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: Yeboy! I want to look at lanita (she/her): Ha ha. h: those leotards Mike Jones (he/him): I love it. h: some more. I don't objectify women constantly, like it seems like right now Mike Jones (he/him): It's okay. It's just where the questions are leading you. It's fine. It's a safe space. h: Ha. lanita (she/her): That is correct. Mike Jones (he/him): of course we're putting this on the internet, which is not a very safe space. h: No it's not. Mike Jones (he/him): Okay. Our listeners are good. tea, Earl Grey, hot, or coffee, black, or Ractogino, or iced tea. lanita (she/her): someone's going away and we're gone. Mike Jones (he/him): I think there's h: I will Mike Jones (he/him): a prop. h: admit Mike Jones (he/him): There's a prop. h: I will admit that I have always wanted to try a Racticino. But it's gotta be tea Earl Grey Hot. lanita (she/her): She's h: I am Leigh Ellen (she/her): With the Jean Luc Picard cup. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes. With a mug. That is everything. h: I am Captain Jean Luc Picard and I'm looking for my Janeway, you know. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Love it. Mike Jones (he/him): if you had a replicator in your bus, what would you create with it? h: Food, it would be food, lanita (she/her): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): That was h: all the food, constant food. I gotta try Mike Jones (he/him): Food, food. h: this racco. I gotta try some of Troy's mousse that she's always fucking talking about, you know. She loves that chocolate mousse. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Should should we lanita (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): who's your Star Trek bartender? Gaynan or Quark? Guy Nin. Mm-hmm. Well, you already mentioned her earlier. okay, here it is. Are you Team Tasha or Team Armis? h: sorry guys, I'm Team Tasha Yar. t Justice for Leigh Ellen (she/her): The h: Tasha. Justice for Tasha. I actually listened to that episode. Mike Jones (he/him): Yes, yes. lanita (she/her): Nope. Shan't be here. Leigh Ellen (she/her): This is gonna end our podcast. And and our twenty year friendship. Mike Jones (he/him): my gosh. This is the rift begins. lanita (she/her): Well, this episode's not coming out. Sorry. Thanks for coming thanks for Damizzon: Luckily luckily Lunita lanita (she/her): talking. Damizzon: Lunita does not have the eject button on this platform, so we we would have lost a lot of guests at this point had she that power, but lanita (she/her): Yep. Yep. Delete. h: get shot out of the bus. that would be sick. Mike Jones (he/him): Inject your seeds. h: Ha ha ha Mike Jones (he/him): your favorite alien species? lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. I mean v you can't go wrong with Vulcans. h: Just so chill, man. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I thought you were gonna say Ferengi. h: I mean I do love those ears. I really want to be I wanna do a Ferengi clo cosplay really bad, but one of these days. We saw a girl at the convention who was just Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. Get in some Umax. h: the sickest Ferengi costume ever. Like, it was so

perfect. Do you remember Lee Ellen? It was incredible. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, I do. h: It was like a full ass head prosthetic. Yeah, no, she was like a f it was a full Mike Jones (he/him): It takes a lot of patience. Yeah. h: ass situation. Like a legit screen ready situation. It was amazing. Leigh Ellen (she/her): I've seen some Mike Jones (he/him): That's amazing. Leigh Ellen (she/her): like that since then. You gotta come to more cons in New York. h: Yeah. I want to do that really bad. Mike Jones (he/him): who's your captain? Janeway. Okay, last question. Is Star Trek a cult? h: A little bit, but there are no exit costs. So it's like lanita (she/her): Now that's kind of the Mike Jones (he/him): Well thought out. lanita (she/her): perfect answer. Damizzon: Very good. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. h: Like y it's by choice. Mike Jones (he/him): Very good. You made it through the questions. Yeah, it's by choice. Damizzon: And also to be clear, that was not an edited lack of pause. They just had the answer right there and ready. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha. lanita (she/her): Mm-hmm. h: I have ADHD, so I talk really super fast. So sometimes the editing of pauses that I do for my own self, I'm like, maybe I should leave some of them because sometimes people listen and they're like, D Damizzon: Ha ha ha. h: you talk like really fast. And people in real life Damizzon: Mm-hmm. h: think I'm on stimulants a lot of the time and I'm like so drug free dork. I mean I'm on weed all the time trying to slow myself down to normal people speed because I'm like all the time. It's it's it's rough. Mike Jones (he/him): my gosh. I love it. lanita (she/her): That's what Leigh Ellen (she/her): No. lanita (she/her): we do. We bring all of the secrets out. Mike Jones (he/him): Well, this has been really great. so where will be people be able to find your podcast when it's out? h: all the podcasting platforms. Go flox yourself. We're also already Leigh Ellen (she/her): That's a Holly question. Yeah, all the platforms. Mike Jones (he/him): All the platforms. h: on Instagram. Mike Jones (he/him): you're already so so people could go to Instagram, go to is it GoFlox Yourself on Insta Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): and follow there and then they'll be able to find out when you're when you're yeah. That's amazing. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We only have two posts right now that are just kind of like introductory for the two of us and then Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): we'll start post posting more and once we have a date, an official date set, we'll post that. Mike Jones (he/him): Excellent. We'll put the links to that down below. I d I say that like anyone's Yeah, give yeah, give us give us your give us the the links. What's where's your h: For now you can find me on OnlyFans and give me all your money. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: Real Hollywood on on OnlyFans. Mike Jones (he/him): Woohoo! Leigh Ellen (she/her): W O U L D h: Yeah, as in yes I would. Damizzon: Yes. Mike Jones (he/him): Nice. h: But really mostly I wouldn't these days 'cause I'm elderly. lanita (she/her): Ha ha ha. Mike Jones (he/him): But actually Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha ha lanita (she/her): That's hilarious. Mike Jones (he/him): That's amazing. and Le Ellen, yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Well, thank you for having us on guys. This was really nice. Damizzon: Thank you for coming on. We're excited for your and also we just h hope for return invites for it for the next season h: hell yeah. Damizzon: of your pod. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah, h: If we have room Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. Leigh Ellen (she/her): for sure. h: with all the celebrities we're supposedly gonna be getting lanita (she/her): Mike Jones, strike two. I'm telling you, we're deleting this. Deleting the recording. Let me close my other tab. the upload isn't going to happen. h: The I sh shoot out the bus, man. We gotta get a button that shoots me Mike Jones (he/him): Ha ha. h: out. Damizzon: Yes. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha ha Mike Jones (he/him): That's amazing. Damizzon: Who gets the button? Who gets the button? Is my question. h: It's Mike Jones (he/him): Who gets the button? h: gotta be Lenita. I'm ejected before Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: you even start lanita (she/her): We need all the h: recording. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah. lanita (she/her): Correct. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Ha ha ha. Damizzon: that lanita (she/her): Just Damizzon: is the best gimmick. We should we should have stolen that. lanita (she/her): a trail of smoke shh, wouldn't it be? h: Incorporate it. Yeah, do a pew Need a little visual edit, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna have it some dumb visuals Mike Jones (he/him): I think we have sound effects. I don't think we have a ejector seat sound effect though. lanita (she/her): It's like a rocket taking off, that's all. Mm-hmm. Just a puff of smoke right there. Mike Jones (he/him): Rocket taking off. my gosh. h: and sound effects. Expect dumb visuals and sound effects in our podcast. Leigh Ellen (she/her): Yeah. h: I'm already adding some really dumb sounds so I'm really stoked about it. I found an website that has all the so all the Star Trek sounds from all the series and Mike Jones (he/him): yeah. h: it's fucking great. Yeah. lanita (she/her): that's cool. Leigh Ellen (she/her): We can share it with you. Mike Jones (he/him): I love it. h: Yeah, I just did a s Mike Jones (he/him): Please do. h: little search or whatever. Star Trek sounds. Mike Jones (he/him): Yeah, yeah. Amazing. All right. Well, thank you all for being here. We look forward to being your first subscribers. and thank you, dear listener. If you've enjoyed what you've heard today, head over to our Patreon and join us there. You can also find us on Discord. We're at Hailing Freak Open on all the socials. I'd like to thank Damien and Lanita as always for being my wonderful co-hosts. And with that, I will say. Hailing frequencies closed.