Full Transcript for Annabelle (2014)

felt like a really creepy doll. 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.360 It has this like just uneasiness to it. 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:55.600 Get that fucking doll out of my house reaction when you're watching it. 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.199 Annabelle has a face that makes you uncomfortable before she even does anything. 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:05.040 So you feel a constant sense of dread just seeing her sitting in the background. 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.759 Why would anyone want a doll like this in their house? 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.360 I have no idea. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:30.319 But one of the things that I think that this movie does is it plays on the fear of being alone in a room, looking down a dark hallway, just the sense of someone nearby when nobody should be there or is there, the stillness, the anticipation, it can definitely be effective or more effective rather than what eventually appears. 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.199 There's a lot that this movie does really, really well. 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:34.720 And I need to preface this. 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:40.959 The biggest thing that I felt watching this movie, and then after watching this movie, is fuck. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.360 I really wish I had just watched it when it came out. 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.079 This was my last year in the military. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:52.000 I was just going through a lot of medical treatment, so like I wasn't even really like connected to movies that were coming out at the time. 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:58.480 I really wish I had seen it then because what I found was that this was a very well-constructed movie. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.399 There's a lot of shots that linger in really uncomfortable ways. 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:10.800 But the problem is that I have seen a lot of movies that came after it, so it wasn't hard to recognize where a scare was heading before it ever happened. 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:22.319 I could appreciate the execution technically, but I was never affected by this movie apart from a couple specific moments, and it involves a sewing machine. 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:33.120 And I had to like just pull my headphone out of my ear, and I just knew that it wasn't gonna be a good moment, particularly because I just grew up afraid of sewing machines. 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:37.439 My mom had one all the time, and I was so sure that there'd just be blood gushing at any moment. 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:39.439 But that was really it. 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:48.240 It was my personal experience projected onto the movie that actually made it uncomfortable, not because I think there were a lot of innovative scares in here. 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:54.240 It's not to say they were bad, it's just damn, I wish I hadn't seen everything that came after it. 00:06:54.560 --> 00:07:00.399 Yeah, but also this film plays on a very familiar formula for scares and jump scares. 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:08.959 So I feel like any of the more seasoned horror fans will start to pick up on things and predict when the scares are coming. 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.079 So for me, this movie becomes very it's audible scary, right? 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.000 It's like the loud versus scary. 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:16.720 Like, what is it? 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.000 Is it the is it the sound that's trying to get you? 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:24.000 Because on screen, it's not doing a whole lot. 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:26.160 The sound does do it. 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.439 It makes it very uncomfortable, it makes it very unsettling. 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:38.720 But one of the things that I appreciate most about this movie are the performances that we get and and really just from some of our central characters. 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:44.639 Mia as a character is someone that I absolutely was captivated by. 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.399 One, her style being emulated from like Grace Kelly. 00:07:48.959 --> 00:08:07.759 Two, a lot of the emotion and the power that we get from her performance, and even John, her husband, as an opposite to her, he has classic shitty horror husband or horror dad energy, but also redeems himself in a lot of moments, so he's not just one-dimensional and one flat note. 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:16.240 There's a lot of there's a lot of the human touch in this movie that I really appreciated a lot, especially with the music choices that we get. 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.639 Sean, I'm a fucking lover of the oldies. 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.800 I love moo music from the 50s, 60s, 70s. 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:28.480 So when the song Cherish starts to play on a turntable, I was like, oh yeah, this is my shit. 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:29.120 This is it. 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:34.639 The soundtrack to the movie, the song choices, the atmosphere, and the setting as a whole. 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:46.799 Just the late 1960s setting, the dim apartment corridors, the basement spaces, the confined rooms, they just give you a really good old school claustrophobic kind of quality to them. 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:56.000 It adds to the vibe of the movie for sure, but you know, obviously, Annabelle is just an excellent horror image, so you can play a lot with that. 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:04.399 The question is is that, you know, I think the film kind of understands that sometimes the anticipation of a doll moving is scarier than the movement itself. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.480 But the question becomes did they play on that too much? 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:10.000 Oh, for sure they did. 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:11.440 Sean, absolutely. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:13.360 Way too much, in my opinion. 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:14.480 Because it's tough. 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:22.639 On one hand, it has, like you said, a handful of maybe effective sequences, maybe some good scare sequences, one or two, maybe. 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:29.759 The movie knows how to use the empty space, the obscured backgrounds,

the silence, the loud noises, the sudden movements. 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:36.879 Even if you see some of the scares coming, I think that the staging can still make certain moments pretty effective. 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:40.159 But the story is just familiar, you know. 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:50.240 Essentially, some kind of presence terrorizing a young family, strange things happen around the house, you know, the protagonist struggles to convince others that something is wrong. 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.320 It's, you know, rinse and repeat. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.080 Not always bad if it's done really well. 00:09:54.159 --> 00:10:00.480 And it's not that this is done horribly, it's just that it is something that you're gonna you're gonna predict, you're gonna see a lot of this coming. 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:01.600 You're not wrong. 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:06.960 And what's I think disappointing is the fact that this movie starts off really strong. 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:13.919 I loved the beginning of this movie, and I think really that's kind of what held out for it throughout the entire ride. 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:20.559 But this movie does have a lot of familiarity to it, which I think makes it very palatable and very safe for a lot of people to watch. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:33.120 If you enjoy period pieces but that are supernatural, I think if you like domestic-based horror, if you want stories that are centered on motherhood, I think this is a really great option. 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:50.159 And I think if you need some if you're someone who needs surprises, if you need shock, if you don't watch supernatural horror because it feels a little repetitive and reductive, I think maybe this isn't gonna be your number one pick. 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.240 It might be less effective there. 00:10:52.720 --> 00:11:05.440 But if you're looking to throw something on in October and you're someone who doesn't necessarily maybe watch horror all year long, or you're around others who don't, and you love a good demon story, I think this is an absolutely safe choice. 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.559 Yeah, for sure. 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:07.440 I mean, that's true. 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:14.799 For some people, this is gonna be probably pretty scary for the people that don't watch a lot of horror and are only consuming horror during this time of year. 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:25.919 I gotta ask though, without giving anything away, and I don't remember what happens exactly in creation, but do you feel like the backstory of Annabelle was surprising at all? 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.960 Sean, one thing that I felt then and I still feel now, it feels convoluted. 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.919 Yeah, but I've been trying to remember all the events that happen in it. 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:38.480 If you watch Annabelle Creation, it essentially ends with the beginning of this movie. 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.519 I honestly feel, Sean, we didn't need Annabelle Creation at all. 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.600 I feel like we should have just had this movie. 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:47.039 This movie is enough origin story for Annabelle for me. 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:57.039 If you're just into maybe supernatural horror, the conjuring completists, this is definitely something that you'll probably want to see if you haven't already, or put it on your list. 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:10.879 I don't think this is the right movie for you if you are seeking a lot of originality, expecting even a killer doll movie, or if you're a gore lover that's just looking for brutal kills. 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:12.639 Oh, absolutely agreed. 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.600 And speaking of which, how would you describe that gore score? 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:22.879 Annabelle has some blood and some violent moments for sure, but it's not interested in ripping people apart or making you lose your lunch. 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.720 It's it's literally just interested in that supernatural tension. 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:34.879 And I think the horror comes from the creepy atmosphere, the demonic scares, and the threat of what's lurking around the corner. 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.000 So it really just earns this one a pretty low gore score. 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:39.840 And what about the animal report? 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:41.519 Well, it is actually safe. 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.080 There were no animals harmed or depicted of harm throughout this movie. 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:49.679 Let's go ahead and get into our readings in Annabelle from 2014. 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:51.519 Was it a hack or a slash? 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:56.879 Listen, Annabelle is one creepy-looking doll, let's face it. 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:02.799 But apparently having a face that only a demon can love isn't enough to carry an entire movie. 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:17.039 I think that there are moments where this film can get under your skin, and I appreciate the effort to expand the conjuring universe, but I think by the time the credits rolled, I was kind of left wondering if this story really needed to be told. 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:24.000 It feels like a case of Hollywood seeing a memorable prop and immediately asking, how can we squeeze 90 minutes out of this thing? 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:34.639 Annabelle feels like a movie that genuinely just exists because the doll was popular, not because anyone had a particularly compelling story to tell about her. 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:42.879 It's honestly kind of a shame, I think, because the idea of a young family losing their sense of safety in their own home is genuinely unsettling, right? 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:48.720 But there's a lot you could do with that premise, but the film, I feel like, never quite turns it into something distinctive. 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:57.759 And I think even the ending feels more interested in connecting another dot in the conjuring universe than giving us a story that we'll

remember. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.960 It's still an entertaining movie for what it's worth. 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:08.000 If you want the vibe, it's got some spooky vibe, it's got the atmosphere, it's not a bad movie to watch around this time of year in October. 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:15.440 And I wouldn't call it a complete waste of time, but this one is just one of those horror movies that feels pretty forgettable once you step away from it. 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:22.320 And I think despite having a character that's practically built to haunt your dreams, the movie itself doesn't leave much of a nightmare behind. 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:28.080 I did want more from a film centered on a doll that looks like it knows where you buried the bodies. 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.799 It's just a genuinely creepy-looking doll. 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:39.600 And Annabelle might have a killer look, but this movie probably should have stayed in the toy box because for me it's a it's unfortunately a hack. 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.720 I actually did not walk into this episode expecting this. 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:43.679 No way. 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.279 I thought this movie was fine. 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:55.360 It wasn't particularly exciting, but it does do enough that makes me care enough to watch and stick along for the ride and still be invested. 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:01.120 Because if this movie was centered on Ed and Lorraine Warren, I think I would have had an eye roll. 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.159 This had scares that were very predictable. 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:14.159 But what it did have in spades is atmosphere, a great setting, incredible music, the rosemary's baby DNA was felt throughout it for me. 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:21.279 And the characters, particularly our main character, Mia, gave me a lot to hold on to. 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.679 Even if the horror itself was uneven, this felt like a slow burn. 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:34.240 While a lot of the things in this movie are very, very familiar, I also think that they are technically and objectively just well executed. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:44.720 What I appreciate is this film's ability to drop us in the middle of a time period where the Manson family was running rampant. 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.720 We're in the immediate aftermath. 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.080 There's concerns about cults and cult activity. 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:58.080 There's a lot, at least in the opening of this movie, and you can see where there's a shift in how people are even viewing the world. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.519 And there's a lot of that nuanced character work that really makes me invested in who these people are. 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:08.320 It's not a perfect movie by any means, but I also think it's still a slash. 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.679 My proudest slash, but it's still a fine movie. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:16.480 And with that, Annabelle from 2014 has earned one hack and one slash.

00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:25.120 Now, while our scores are in, we're gonna take a quick break, and when we return, we're gonna get into the home invasion, the basement elevator, and the price this movie puts on saving a soul. 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:26.399 Stay with us. 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:35.759 Why rest in peace when you can rest in someone else's nursery? 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.600 Are you tired of aging? 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:46.399 Sick of paying taxes, terrified of the thought that someday your body will decay and your loved ones will forget you ever existed? 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:49.840 Well, have we got a deal with the devil for you? 00:16:50.080 --> 00:17:02.879 Introducing the Doll House, the only premium immortality program that transfers your eternal soul into a horrifying porcelain doll through our proprietary, totally not hell-approved satanic ritual. 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.839 Here at the Dollhouse, we believe death is just a temporary inconvenience. 00:17:08.079 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00:18:06.400 And the best part, you don't even need to be a skilled occultist. 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:15.920 Just gather your cult, summon the Dark Lord, spill a little blood, and perform the ritual in the presence of a legally distinct antique doll. 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:17.680 Results may vary. 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:19.920 Immortality is not guaranteed. 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.880 Soul transfers are non-refundable. 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:31.279 The Dark Lord reserves the right to repossess your eternal existence for failure to meet your blood sacrifice quota. 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:32.559 The dollhouse. 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:38.559 You can't take it with you, but you can make sure nobody else gets a good night's sleep either. 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:43.680 Welcome back, folks. 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:49.279 You're not entering the spoiler zone for Annabelle, which has earned one hack and one slash. 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.240 Now, again, this is a spoiler zone, so fair warning. 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.799 Everything in Annabelle is fair game from here on out. 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.039 So let's kick things off with our sleigh by sleigh. 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:02.480 Yeah, the key thing to know is that this isn't a traditional body count horror movie. 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.200 Most of the deaths happen, you know, off-screen or through supernatural events. 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:15.039 So the kills are mostly functional to the story with little graphic detail, no elaborate practical effects showcases or things like that. 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.200 There are a few here that we want to talk about, though. 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.720 I want to start kicking it off with the Higgins parents. 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.599 I absolutely loved this scene, period, Sean. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:34.160 We had the news cast, and we acknowledged that the Tate and Labianka murders had just taken place. 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:38.640 So the Manson family is in everyone's minds. 00:19:38.960 --> 00:20:01.359 Yeah, I did really like the whole vibe and setup of that time period, being in the late 60s, having that on the background where they're talking about the Manson family, and just really kind of living in that space of what it might feel like to be seeing that on the news, you know, and living through that, or some kind of special, you know, on TV about that happening in that year or whatever. 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:06.960 Yeah, and I mean, listen, we could have gone straight into Pete and Sharon's house. 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:09.359 They could have done that, and they didn't. 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:17.119 Instead, we watched their attack and their demise through their bedroom window from a neighbor's house. 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:29.519 And while that is a very interesting choice, what I think it does for me is create this horrible distance between violence and then the people who could help but are blissfully unaware. 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:31.200 Mia suspects something. 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:41.359 She hears a scream, even though she gets up and sees nothing, she could have absolutely just gone back to bed and man, it could have been a very different story from here on out. 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:51.359 But I absolutely loved seeing Pete essentially tell his wife to go ahead and call the police and then just flick a blood over on the wall. 00:20:51.680 --> 00:21:13.200 I also kind of enjoyed it, the whole setup to that, you know, leading in and easing into it with the whole Manson thing on TV and then going into that whole part where, you know, we see it, but she wakes up to the scream and we're seeing it from afar, which was a really kind of cool, different way to kind of showcase something like that or give us a kill in a horror movie. 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:18.400 So definitely a pretty interesting choice, I think, paid off really well. 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:26.960 And it's a it's a definitely a grim way to kick

things off, but the movie definitely saves most of the actual violence for the next part of the attack. 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:34.960 The murders that you know establish that these you know cultists are dangerous before the supernatural stuff actually takes over. 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:40.559 And it's you know, obviously, when they are now entering Mia's house. 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.880 What a terrifying reality. 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:53.599 So, one, we get to see Annabelle Higgins lurking in the nursery, and we later hear her whisper, I like your dolls. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:55.440 Wow, okay, Sean. 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:10.319 This is one of the only moments that was effective for me because hearing That line, never seeing Annabelle, but hearing that line, it was very close and almost up there with Is Tamara home from the original Strangers for me. 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.119 It was fucking unsettling. 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:21.359 And the fact that we see Mia the entire time and she's like standing her ground, but also saying, please just take anything you want and get out. 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:25.119 And we just see Annabelle's boyfriend come in from behind her. 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:37.759 Yeah, seeing Annabelle Higgins kind of lurking in the background, already looking like some kind of weird demonic entity, even though she was a physical person at this time, you know, and that whisper was really effective. 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:44.720 But yeah, it's literally that moment where he like comes around and shanks her in the side of the stomach that was absolutely wild. 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:47.359 And the attacks got brutal. 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:52.720 I mean, absolutely brutal, really fast-paced, really violent for sure. 00:22:53.039 --> 00:23:00.960 There's a lot of commotion, and throughout this entire time, we see that Mia is her vision starting to like fog and like haze a little bit. 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.200 She's starting to get a little bit out of it. 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:14.960 And just as this guy disarms, essentially John, like throws him against a wall, the cops come in as he's about to stab Mia, and it's about to get really fucking bad for her. 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.400 But the the stress and the heartache and the trauma of also seeing this man get gunned down right in front of her. 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.440 But this cannot be good for her blood pressure, obviously. 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.559 No way. 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:27.279 Exactly. 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:32.240 And then the next moment that we see, she's being wheeled out on a stretcher. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:41.359 We then see Annabelle's dead body, cult symbol on the wall, written in blood, and then Annabelle the doll on the lap. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.799 That was definitely intense. 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:54.400 The blood that falls also that just drips onto the doll's face, marking kind of like the beginning of the haunting. 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.160 And into the eye. 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.759 Into the eye, of course, you know, something weird like that. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:02.319 Sean, super fuck that. 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:03.119 I don't care. 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.880 Burn that shit, get rid of it. 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:06.000 I don't want it in the house. 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.359 I don't know how they go back to this house after all this fucking happens. 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:10.319 No fucking way. 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.160 And keep that nursery. 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:13.440 Like none of it feels good. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:20.480 But yeah, this is probably it's probably the opening's most memorable death because I think it serves two purposes. 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:35.759 I think it it gives us a really disturbing image and it establishes that the doll's supernatural connection is there and you know the blood is visible, but the scene isn't really super graphic by like horror standards. 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:40.720 It was a very effective way to showcase what's happening and how this kind of starts. 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:46.799 I couldn't help but just really feel like you know, they really kind of just did a whole nother Chuck E thing. 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:47.279 Yeah. 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:50.720 I know there's more lore behind this, and we'll talk about it. 00:24:50.880 --> 00:25:06.880 There's more for sure, but my initial gut feeling, and maybe it's because we just got off of like Bride of Chucky, and I was revisiting that a little bit, but I'm just like, well, okay, Sean, we got we got off of Bride of Chucky, and I just finished saying at the top of this episode how the director worked on Child's Play 3. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:15.599 Did it have to be a person that did this ritual that had this event that now they are part of this doll? 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.960 Or could it have just been a cursed item somehow? 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:25.599 Like, you know, I kind of liked the ambiguous lore of this being this demonic cursed item, but not really. 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:32.720 I don't know if I really needed to know that this was some cultist, random cultist, that just ran into somebody's house and slit her own throat, you know? 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.519 This is the fine line of some properties need more backstory and others don't. 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.200 I think we could have done with a little less. 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.720 I personally like it, so I'm not mad at it, but I do see your point. 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:52.640 I mean, listen, when you've had Charles Lee Ray using voodoo to put himself in the body of a doll because of soul transference, I mean, I get it. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.599 I can see why you think it's it's not an original take. 00:25:55.920 --> 00:26:02.319 Yeah, and you know, some people may really like it, and I'm not mad at that, but that's my initial reaction to it. 00:26:02.640

--> 00:26:08.559 Sean, I'd really like to share with you and be vulnerable about a really dumb moment that I had watching this movie. 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:14.799 Our next bout of violence is not actually a death, but it's almost a death, and it's Father Perez. 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:15.279 Yeah. 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:23.920 So much suspense leading up to this between Annabelle's bloodshot eyes, as because he's now he's trying to get this doll out of their house. 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:35.599 When he attempts to cross the threshold into the church, he is flung backwards on the concrete, and then the shot that we see is his hand outstretched towards Annabelle, the doll being on the ground. 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.000 We see blood pulling from the corner. 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:48.480 Sean, I really thought Father Perez was dead, and then I felt really dumb when I later realized, wait, no, he can't be dead because he's in the Curse of La Yorona. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.279 Oh my I didn't even remember that, so you're good. 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:52.559 Well, it wasn't a good movie. 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:54.000 Bless you, Linda Cartellini. 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.880 I'm so glad you're getting your flowers with Crystal Lake because you are an incredible actress, but that movie was not it. 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.759 I'm fairly sure they even retconned that movie from being in the Conjuring franchise officially. 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:06.000 They were like, we're not part of this. 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:12.480 But the Father Perez character makes another appearance in that movie and he references Annabelle Adal. 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.039 Whether you like it or not, it's still there. 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.720 I think it just speaks to the unmemorable movies, you know? 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:19.920 That's just how it is. 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.119 But I get it, I did think he was genuinely dead gonna be dead too. 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:28.480 I mean, the same thing as like I remember when I first watched this, I thought for sure her baby was gonna be dead. 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:29.279 You know what I mean? 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:35.680 Like I thought I thought for sure that she was gonna survive, but the baby was gonna be dead, or there's gonna be some weird shit that happens with that. 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:43.759 If they had committed harder to the bit, because there is this moment where she sees Annabelle the doll in the crib and she's beating the shit out of that doll. 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.440 And then we later see still baby on the ground. 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.279 We heard like a little bit of the noise. 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:53.759 I thought, oh my god, James Wall, was I not familiar with your game? 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.079 Are you actually gonna kill a baby right now? 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.599 Leonetti, are you actually gonna direct a film in which a baby is that? 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:06.880 I if you

are, you're going fucking hard for Annabelle, and then that's a little intense for a conjuring franchise. 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.839 But sure enough, it was a figment of imagination. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.799 It was just a manipulation, an illusion, a trick of the light. 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:29.039 Which you know, the demons like to play tricks on you for sure, but I can tell you, and most people that maybe have been listening to us for a while will probably also agree that like if they did go that far and that hard, that might have been slash territory for me. 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:34.960 Just think about how gnarly that scene would have been, it would have amplified this movie to the next level. 00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:39.119 Here's the thing, it's not that I want little Leah to pass at all. 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:40.960 I'm so glad that she's okay. 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.160 I think what we're alluding to here, Sean, is that there is an a lack of edge and a lack of darkness in this film. 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:53.440 The conjuring franchise and by extension, Annabelle, feels a little safe. 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.200 For a lot of demonic energy, it feels a little safe. 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:07.359 We have like rinse and repeat paint by the numbers deaths, minimal at that, but it doesn't feel particularly dangerous, which is a crazy thing to say. 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:14.960 One of the final moments that we get, one of the final kills that we get with Evelyn's sacrifice, I think was a very interesting kill. 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.960 I'm just thinking like none of that had to go down, unfortunately. 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.279 I feel like it's sad but true. 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:35.039 Mia considers sacrificing herself to save her baby because it's basically saying that if you, you know, if you sacrifice yourself and it's guiding her to the window to jump, then she can save her baby. 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:41.920 But we all know that they're they're not gonna hold up to this, like they're just trying to get another person to do some crazy shit. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.920 And so they stop her. 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:55.599 Evelyn and and her husband stop her, but then Evelyn's like, I'm gonna do it and sacrifice because she's also, you know, tormented by something that happened when she lost her kid. 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.160 It's it's this whole thing, and she dies, but like for what? 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.039 Because we all know that this fucking doll ain't done. 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.640 Yeah, she dies because she feels like this is her purpose. 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:10.559 So she recalls hearing her daughter's voice, telling her that it's not her time, that she still has a purpose. 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:18.960 And my god, I wish her purpose was to continue living on and just like having a good life and and loving others and and living in a lot of joy. 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:26.079 Because for her to go

the way that she did while I can honor a sacrifice, I just don't think it was necessary. 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.039 Because also, why are you giving the demon what the demon wants? 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.720 Yeah, don't give into that shit. 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:40.160 The tough thing for me, it's the film's most maybe significant death emotionally, but it does the movie earn the emotional payoff, you know what I mean? 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:40.799 I don't know. 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:41.759 It's tough. 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:55.039 What I will say though, having not seen this movie before, in the third act, when John is with the father in the hospital, and the father shares, oh, well, a baby can't offer its own soul. 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.359 I thought for a second, are they trying to frame Evelyn as a red herring? 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:04.720 Because Evelyn is there with her, but then she was wearing an all-white gown. 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.519 And the last people to wear an all-white gown were the cultists in the beginning of the movie. 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.799 So I was very pleased to see that they didn't do that. 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:21.440 There was like this give and take there in the third act, where I thought that there was the potential for them to do things that were a little bit outside the box. 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.119 It all stayed within the box. 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.119 Yeah, it got a little fishy for sure. 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:32.400 That would have been a wild thing if she ended up being like maybe the leader of the cult or something, and but that would have been too much. 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.200 No, it would have been too much, and I wouldn't have liked it. 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.400 And I was concerned that maybe that was the direction that they were going. 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:43.920 So, what I can appreciate it is that there's a little bit of misdirection in there that I can appreciate. 00:31:44.079 --> 00:32:03.200 I mean, we got more misdirection earlier in the film when obviously those kids were drawing the pictures of a stroller getting hit by a green truck, and we had a lot of that visual misdirection when the camera refuses to show you anything that is not an extreme close-up of Mia on her face. 00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:03.759 Yeah. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.680 To obscure the fact that she's carrying Leah and Leah is not in the stroller. 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:08.240 Yeah. 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.359 Another moment that I thought the baby was gone for sure. 00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.480 That's two times they faked me out on a baby death. 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:15.920 This one wouldn't have been as good. 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.680 This one would have been basically fucking pet cemetery, but that's okay. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.279 Oh, yeah, no, you're right. 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:39.680 I'll tell you what I did like, and I'd argue maybe the strongest element of this film is its cinematography and probably the atmosphere that you're talking about, because I think the movie doesn't always have the strongest material to work with, but it does know how to make an ordinary room feel pretty fucking threatening. 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:48.720 When you think of it like this movie understands, you know, this whole dark hallway, suspicious corner can do a lot of heavy lifting, especially, you know, in these horror movies. 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:58.720 And I think the lighting and the framing keep you kind of looking for something lurking in the background, and the production design kind of gives you this convincing setting with that 60s vibe. 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:03.119 Everything's a little dimmer, you know, things aren't as bright and vibrant with really bright lights. 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:13.359 There's a lot of warm lights, a lot of dimmer lights, and I think it all adds to kind of the feel of this movie when you match it with the sound, it gives you some good stuff. 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:24.480 So, you know, I think that the story might not be the most original thing in the toy box, but at least the filmmakers know how to make that toy box look terrifying. 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.400 And part of that is because, you know, as I mentioned, there's a lot of influence here from Rosemary's Baby. 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:40.240 And Leonetti described how that film is so psychological and gives you moments where you have to really explore the entire frame. 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:53.279 So a lot of the shots that are in here are shots that are sustained for a significantly longer period than you might expect because it's encouraging you to look at every single uh nook and cranny of the frame. 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.359 Even some of the highlights in the shadows. 00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:58.640 Imagine this, right? 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.720 I want to use this actually, this is a great example. 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:12.000 When Mia is holding Leah after just rescuing her from the falling books, and we have Annabelle rising in the background, and she doesn't just rise, she starts to levitate. 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:18.159 She is standing in front of curtains that look pitch black because of the lighting in the room. 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:18.719 Yeah. 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:24.639 And yet, even within that, you have to see the subtle outline of a pitch black demon. 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:33.039 It's not just the composition of it, but even how they're just carving out the faintest image in these shadows with lighting is just nuts. 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:34.559 That's a really good call out. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.800 And that is one of the cooler shots in the film for sure. 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.960 That whole moment that you're talking about, because the sun puts everything out of focus, but gives you the perfect amount of lighting. 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.400 It's just creepy enough. 00:34:46.559 -->

00:34:54.880 And you don't even notice until I don't know, it took me a second to notice until we got on the close-up that we were seeing this demon behind Annabelle. 00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:04.880 Now, one scene that I also really, really appreciated, and this is where I was getting to earlier of like, okay, the things that I found personally intimidating or f or frightening. 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:12.800 There's a moment where Mia is on her sewing machine watching TV, and then also the Jiffy Pop is going. 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:13.679 Yeah. 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:20.880 And I absolutely love that we got another Jiffy Pop scene in horror that isn't screamed from 1996. 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.280 Ah, good. 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:24.000 Good stuff. 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:24.320 Yeah. 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:29.840 Okay, so Annabelle is out here with a demon, is out here turning on all the burners. 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:31.519 The jiffy pop is going. 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:39.360 And it's not just that we get and see that Mia is sewing and is a little distracted. 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:47.199 It's that we expect in the almost final destination like event, we expect that she's gonna start sewing into her entire fucking finger. 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.039 So when she only nicks it, it was like a great relief for me. 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:51.679 Yeah. 00:35:52.079 --> 00:36:00.079 But I grew up so afraid watching my mom use her sewing machine because that needle looks so fucking painful. 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:14.239 And when I was on the ship, our TV studio on the ship where I was working was very close to the embroidery shop where the bosun's mates would like do all the fucking embroidering on like ball caps and uniforms, etc. 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:20.639 I saw someone who actually, like this is like an industrial-sized embroiderer, fucking got their finger caught in there. 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.800 So those things freak me the fuck out. 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.239 You could not pay me to sew. 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.159 And you could not pay me to get near a sewing machine in a fucking horror movie. 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.719 I have an old sewing machine in my garage right now. 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.519 Of course you do. 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:32.559 You and Binks both. 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:33.679 Jesus Christ. 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:52.880 I think it also just did a really great job at just building the tension because you are sitting there with the close-ups constantly going back to the sewing machine and her fingers so close to it and such a close-up of it that yeah, you're just thinking the whole time, oh my god, you're bracing for her to nick her finger. 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:58.480 You're you're bracing for it the whole time, and it's constantly building tension. 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:07.280 So I agree, not because I'm scared of that stuff or because I have any history with sewing machines, but just because it actually

did an effective job at building tension. 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.639 Some of the best tension in the movie, outside of I like your dolls, and then being trapped in a fucking basement. 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:13.679 Yeah, for sure. 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.119 But the basement in the elevator was, you know, kind of a fun scene. 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:18.639 I thought it was pretty fun. 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:25.440 And the the funny thing is, is that we really don't even see anything, you know, that much or at all in this whole scene. 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.320 But I do think that it was kind of fun. 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.760 I think, you know, Mia's going into the which is I don't know. 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:43.760 I don't I guess I haven't lived in that many apartment buildings, but to have a basement storage area like that that looks like a bunch of like cages in the dark seems like a really strange thing. 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.840 Maybe that's was more common back then, or maybe it's like a city thing. 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:48.960 I have no idea. 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.039 Listen, Sean, it was the 60s. 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:52.159 What are you gonna do? 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.639 Yeah, I mean, it's probably like parking garages now, but uh dang, that was absolutely wild. 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.559 So, you know, the I the poor lighting just added to it. 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:22.400 Of course, the the thing that I thought was really well done is obviously she sees like this this whole thing, she starts to hear these things, she sees this thing, she sees that old stroller or whatever, and she's getting freaked out, and she runs back to the elevator, closes the elevator, has this moment of relief. 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.159 Like she's like, Great, I'm done. 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:35.920 And then it opens and she's not even paying attention, and she goes to walk out and notices that she's still on the same floor, and so she freaks out, goes back in, and it keeps fucking with her like this. 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.880 And I it was actually a pretty fun moment for for this movie. 00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:47.599 And it keeps going and going and going, and then eventually she just has to run right through it. 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:58.079 Sean, the trick here is when you have this happen to you, hold down the number of the floor that you're going to and hold down the closed door button, it'll force the elevator to go up. 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.159 Unless the entity is stopping the elevator from going up. 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.960 Then I think you have bigger problems, quite frankly. 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.000 That's true. 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:13.280 Again, horror movies show you between this, between Resident Evil, I just went to go see crawlers in theater. 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.760 There's a final destination movie involving an elevator. 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:16.320 That's true. 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.199 Lots of good reasons to just avoid elevators. 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:20.079 Yeah. 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.840 Stairs are a good choice, sometimes the safest choice. 00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:39.199 Another moment that I thought was kind of fun, not like super scary, like it may get a lot of people, to be honest with you, but it's the moment where Mia's getting messed with and sees little Annabelle Higgins running through the house and trips her eventually. 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.039 She's chasing her through the house. 00:39:41.280 --> 00:40:06.800 One thing led to another, and she was in a room, turns around and notices little Annabelle Higgins from across the hall in the other room, and the door is like halfway shut almost, and the kid starts running towards her, but as she bursts through the door, she turns into the grown Annabelle Higgins, which was kind of effective and like charges at her, and she gets really scared. 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.760 What a great reaction that Mia had as a character. 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.199 A lot of good emotion there. 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:20.800 Let me also just tell you that the woman who plays Mia in this film reminded me of two different people the entire time. 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:26.400 That was Diana Agron from Glee and Jessica Roth from Happy Death Day. 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.840 But this actress is named Annabelle Wallace. 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:36.719 Funny to be an Annabelle starring in a movie called Annabelle, and for you yourself to not be the Annabelle. 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.679 You may have also seen her in the Tom Cruise Mummy, or maybe you didn't, because don't see that fucking movie. 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:42.239 It's terrible. 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.079 Oh my god, I forgot she was in that. 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:44.719 That's so true. 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:45.920 She's also a malignant. 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.639 But a great character in this movie, nonetheless. 00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:54.079 Definitely, I think when you think of what this character is, I think you, you know, you can definitely relate. 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:56.880 She's a she's a caring, determined mother. 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:57.679 She's vulnerable. 00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.440 She's very vulnerable in this movie. 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.960 She's, I think, you know, she is a good protagonist. 00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.440 I think that Mia gives this film its emotional center. 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:19.360 The horror becomes, I think, way more personal because she's not just trying to save herself, she's trying to keep her child safe, which I think is always something that adds a little bit to these types of films. 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.880 She was just a good compelling protagonist, I would say. 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:33.679 Yeah, I absolutely adored her, and I absolutely adored the fact that she didn't just roll over and give in to John anytime that he crossed her.

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:44.079 So for example, there was a moment where they're discussing just how she's feeling, and she hits it back with a quote of, You know that being a doctor doesn't make you an expert on everything, right? 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.280 Which I absolutely appreciated because John was pissing me the fuck off throughout this movie. 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:54.320 Then he would have moments of like, okay, no, you actually seem like a nice guy, just a little bit of an idiot sometimes. 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.039 And then goes right back to pissing me off again. 00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.360 I'm just like, I'm fucking over this guy. 00:41:59.599 --> 00:41:59.760 Yeah. 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:11.599 But Mia's range between her moments of joy to her moments of just coming undone and unraveled, but still being so fucking strong to try to keep this shit together. 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.039 I absolutely loved her. 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.880 Yeah, no, she was definitely good, but I agree with you with John. 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.199 Her husband as a character, it is kind of back and forth, right? 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:31.599 Like in one end, I think John provides this kind of grounded contrast to Mia's, you know, frightening experiences, but he does have some skepticism, which sometimes feels understandable. 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:32.880 He wants to believe. 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.159 You can kind of see like he is supportive in a way, you know. 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:46.880 He he's not like 100% doubting her, but then there are moments where his skepticism becomes a little bit frustrating when Mia is clearly terrified. 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:59.519 So he sometimes feels like the standard horror movie husband who needs the extra evidence before accepting the obvious, but it is a tough thing because he isn't like the worst that we've gotten. 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.840 And so is John being reasonably skeptical, or does this movie keep him in denial just to prolong the conflict? 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:06.639 I don't know. 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.159 Well, you know what, Sean? 00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:09.280 Here's how I feel about that. 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:20.559 The worst that we see of John happens before any of the shit even goes wrong, and that is when he makes her pregnancy his wife and his baby sound like an inconvenience to his career. 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:21.760 That's where it is. 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.079 You better make very clear that you're talking about your residency and not the wife and child that you have here in your home. 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:29.679 I absolutely not. 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:30.000 No. 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.360 So that that was one thing. 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.280 He's at worst someone who centers himself over his family. 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:45.519 At best, a guy who's a little bit of a buffoon and doesn't fucking choose his words wisely, doesn't think before he speaks, which is also problematic for someone who wants to be a doctor, I would say. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:59.760 But in addition to that, what kills me is that for all the good that he does in terms of wheeling the TV and getting her her snacks or her cravings, all these little like superficial gestures of love and support, he undermines. 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:12.079 It by not listening to her, by not respecting what she's saying, and then having the fucking audacity to then say, I love you, I'll always believe you. 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.280 You spent this whole movie not believing her. 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:16.800 What are you talking about? 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.639 Where he did listen was when she said, Oh, I can't go back in that house. 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.400 I'm not gonna go back in that house. 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:30.320 He didn't do what we've seen from shitty horror dads in the past and said, Well, we got too much sunk in this, so we're gonna have to deal with it. 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:30.880 Yeah. 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.480 Okay, good for you. 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.480 I'm so glad you didn't do that bare minimum fucking treatment. 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.679 But it doesn't make you fucking great. 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:49.039 He did also decide to go on a business trip mid-pregnancy or pretty late in the pregnancy, which seems like just a really bad decision, no matter what the circumstances. 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:58.159 And I know that you're also in a situation here, sir, where you have to navigate your residency and getting all this done. 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.079 But what other options are there? 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:06.559 Or could you not have arranged for literally anybody in your family to stay with your pregnant wife if this is something that you had to do? 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:12.000 You all just got attacked by a cultist in your house in the middle of the night. 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:13.760 Your wife is on bed rest. 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.079 Get a nursed or something? 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:17.519 Like, there's come on. 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.119 That was that one got me. 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.960 I understand that like for work, not everything is always a choice. 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:31.199 There are other choices that could have been made in the periphery of this obligation that could have made this go very, very differently. 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.039 So also, if you're not gonna hook the popcorn, take it off the fucking stove. 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:36.320 Why'd you leave it sitting there? 00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:37.679 That's also his fault. 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.159 Yeah. 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:39.039 Okay, sorry. 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:40.079 Enough about John. 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.760 I'm just gonna sit here and trash this man who was also kind of nice in a lot of moments. 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.199 I know it's tough. 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.320

Interesting dynamic, this this couple in this movie. 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.159 We talked, you know, about Evelyn a little bit already. 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.639 We talked about Father Perez a little bit. 00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:12.559 And I think what's interesting for me, like just to kind of touch a little bit more on Annabelle as a character, Annabelle the doll, I should say, as a character, is you know, we know that this doll now becomes a conduit for this demonic entity that's unleashed. 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:21.119 And what I think, you know, obviously we have touched on already, is the doll's kind of grotesque design is is very memorable. 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.679 It's the reason, there's a reason why we got a spin-off basically of this doll. 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.039 It's because the look is scary as hell. 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.320 Like I can just look at the cover for this movie and not be okay. 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:34.960 I don't like looking at this doll for too long. 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:44.159 But the problem with me is the doll itself has very little personality because the real antagonist is the demon that's using it. 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:51.840 So the movie now relies on the doll's appearance as an icon more than it develops the mythology behind it. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:47:00.559 And so the problem is, is Annabelle actually the villain in this movie, or is Annabelle basically a demonic Airbnb for a much nastier tenant? 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.400 Yeah, I love the idea of the Airbnb. 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.840 I think she's a DLC cosmetic that got downloaded by Satan, and that's about it. 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.639 Yeah, but that like, does it do it any favors? 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:22.639 You know, for a movie called Annabelle and the doll being the center showcase of this thing, did it do it any favors to really take more away from the from the doll itself? 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:31.280 The other problem that I have with this, Sean, and and maybe this is because I grew up around a lot of porcelain dolls that do look really fucking creepy. 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.760 Why is this doll still being purchased? 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.400 This doll, I get it, was a collector's item, but it's damaged. 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.320 It's damaged goods, it's dirty, and nobody is trying to restore this fucking thing. 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.159 It looks so creepy by the end of this. 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:57.679 Now, I get how it could have been purchased when Mia got it as a gift because it didn't look nearly as bad, but we're talking about this doll now looks so deranged. 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:08.239 The literally the it the glassy eyes and just the dirtiness of it, the raggedness of it, the evilness of the of the face now pops out more. 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:15.039 And you're telling me somebody's just gonna walk into an antique shop and be like, yeah, this is the thing that I need to buy. 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.119 Anyone buying this doll has problems. 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:18.320 I'm just saying it right now. 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.079 Fucking terrible, man. 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:21.360 Fucking terrible. 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.239 No, thank you. 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:29.599 But I will say I think the best thing Annabelle has going for it, and I said it earlier, is the atmosphere. 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:35.119 This it's the the cinematography at all, the shadows, the the creepy apartment setting. 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.599 You can throw Annabelle the doll in there as well. 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.159 That's just a hideous doll to look at. 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:46.000 And and I think when you mix it all together, you feel like something terrible could happen at any moment. 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.280 And you know, I think that you know, Woodard brings some genuine heart to the story. 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:56.639 So, you know, I okay, I I can get there, and and there's a good horror movie hiding in there somewhere. 00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:04.880 I just unfortunately it feels like maybe the demon got to the screenplay before the filmmakers could finish it, but they had a good look going for it. 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.159 If looks could kill. 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.599 I think it's hilarious that you said a demon beat them to the screenplay. 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:10.719 That's kind of fucked up. 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:18.159 Listen, I I've gone on about the worst part of this movie for me, which is John, although not the worst horror husband we've ever seen. 00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.280 My god, he just made a lot of this movie insufferable. 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:27.519 But overall, I'm happy to show that that is in no way impeding me from ever watching this again. 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:32.880 And in fact, what I am open to, and it's not gonna be anytime soon, I'm gonna take a little break. 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:40.239 What I'm excited to do is to do a walkthrough of Annabelle Creation, Annabelle, then Annabelle Comes Home. 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:45.119 I feel like I just I've never seen Annabelle Comes Home either, so I feel like I just have to stack them all up. 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:46.320 Why would I have seen it? 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.199 I didn't watch the first animal. 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:48.400 I don't know, I guess that's true. 00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.400 Okay, so here's what I'm thinking, Sean. 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:56.880 We do a watch along commentary, and we'll both watch all three movies back to back to back. 00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.199 Just blitz them. 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.639 Just blitz them, because at some point we gotta make sense of it. 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:11.280 But until then, folks, for now, Annabelle in 2014 has earned one hack and one slash. 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:16.320 Now we certainly had a robust discussion here, but the conversation about this movie

doesn't end here by any means. 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:18.719 Yeah, what did you think about Annabelle? 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.480 Did it elevate the franchise? 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.000 Did we miss anything? 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.519 We want to know what you think. 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.039 You can join in on the conversation on our Discord, our subreddit. 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:28.880 You can find the links in our show notes. 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:48.400 And if you want to find out how you can go even further than this episode, consider supporting the show by visiting patreon.com slash hackerslash because this is where you can enjoy even more of the show, including bonus content with early access, extended episodes with our B-sides, which are free sides through the spooky season. 00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:52.320 You can take part in movie nominations and of course live shows. 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.880 See you next time, folks, and remember, crazy people do crazy things. 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.159 Well, maybe one day we can all be friends. 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:15.119 Alright, Sean, how much do you actually know about the doll upon which this story is based? 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.400 Well, I can tell you what I know 100%, and it this doll does not look scary at all. 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.000 It's a fucking Raggedy Ann doll. 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:22.880 That's what I do know. 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:33.679 Yeah, how John Carpenter was able to feature Raggedy Ann in Halloween 1978, and then we're also able to do it again in Halloween Resurrection is beyond fucking me. 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.199 But they couldn't get it for Annabelle, they couldn't get it for the conjuring franchise. 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.920 Would this have even worked with a Raggedy Ann doll? 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:41.199 Like, I don't, I don't know. 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.280 I just am looking at Raggedy Ann right now, and I'm like, this is not it. 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:46.960 I'm not scared of this doll at all. 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:57.360 Yeah, so to be clear, the real Annabelle, to Sean's point, is a plain classic Raggedy Ann with red yarn hair. 00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:09.360 And after they couldn't get the licensing for Raggedy Ann, they made the porcelain doll to also create the image of a more horror movie friendly entity creature. 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.400 And I think that was the right choice, to be honest with you. 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.960 But I know that there's a lot of lore around this doll. 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.800 I know that you know there are things that happen when people have tried to move this doll. 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.599 Alright, so let's let's actually get into this lore. 00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:29.760 And I also want to point out that this story is it has various slight differences and accounts as you go. 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.360 Everything that we're about to discuss is what the Warrens have shared as an account. 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:41.119 And we have already discussed and Lorraine Warren at length in Anauseum on our conjuring episodes. 00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.159 So take this with a big ol' fucking grain of salt. 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:52.239 But essentially, the story goes a 28-year-old nurse received a doll as a birthday gift from her mother. 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.000 That's where what happens at the end of this movie that we just saw. 00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:08.239 Older tellings say the mother bought at a second-hand store, but Donna is the nurse, and Donna shared the apartment with a roommate named Angie. 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:12.880 Now, they reported that the doll changed position on its own. 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:19.440 So Donna and Angie began finding it on the couch after they left it locked in Donna's room. 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:20.960 That's fucking creepy. 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:21.599 Yeah. 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.920 I mean, anytime something shows up in the different place is not right for sure. 00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:26.480 Yeah. 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.960 What this could have also been was a s a strange person in their apartment doing things to fuck with him. 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:32.000 True. 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.159 If you've seen Carrie, you've also heard a little bit of this from Mr. 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.119 Billy Nolan. 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.480 The other element that they reported were notes. 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:48.639 So there were messages in a child's handwriting that appeared on parchment reading help us and help Lou. 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:54.480 That detail is particularly odd because the women say that they never owned parchment paper. 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.079 Also odd because Raggedy Ann doesn't have fingers. 00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.440 Nope, sure doesn't, but demons don't need doll fingers. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.960 They also said that the doll appeared to leak blood. 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:06.000 Nasty. 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:07.119 Super nasty. 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:08.960 We hate a doll with a menstrual cycle. 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:14.320 Now, after about a month of all this going on, Donna contacted a medium. 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:19.760 And the medium said the doll held the spirit of a dead seven-year-old girl named Annabelle. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:27.119 Later retellings give her surname as Higgins, and they say that she was found dead in the field where the apartment complex was built. 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.480 And the roommates gave the spirit permission to inhabit the doll. 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.039 And the warrants say things got worse from there. 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:33.519 Okay. 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:35.519 Now there's Lou. 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.239 So I mentioned earlier there were some notes that said help Lou. 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.039 Lou is a friend who distrusted the doll. 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:48.800 And in one

account, he actually woke up paralyzed and choking with the doll gliding up his body. 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:53.840 In another, he felt a sharp pain across his chest after hearing someone behind him. 00:54:54.320 --> 00:55:02.079 The retellings describe seven claw marks, three vertical and four horizontal, which reportedly healed within two days. 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:06.480 No, superficial shit. 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.159 So after that, that's when the Warrens start getting involved. 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:18.320 So Donna contacted an Episcopal priest named Father Hagen, who passed the case of Father Cook, who then called Ed and Lorraine Warren. 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.360 The Warrens obviously then interviewed everyone. 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:27.119 Father Cook then performed an Episcopal blessing, described as an exorcism on the apartment. 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.639 And then Donna asked the Warrens to take that fucking doll with them. 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.840 And then they've just had it in their possession ever since. 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:34.559 Mm-hmm. 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.719 But listen, you've seen the story. 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.679 Do you know anything about what the Warrens experienced with Annabelle? 00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:46.880 Not really. 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.440 Not not truthfully, or at least not from what we get in the franchise. 00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:58.079 So according to the Warrens, when they had the doll with them in the car, the car stalled and swerved on the drive home. 00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:59.039 Oh sick. 00:55:59.199 --> 00:55:59.920 That's what I'm saying. 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:06.559 Like I didn't know that specific detail, but I knew that there was shit that happens when people try to move this doll around. 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:07.920 Even to today. 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.440 Didn't the person that was like taking this fucking thing on tour like something weird happen to this dude? 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:21.119 Yeah, so there's been a lot that's been happening with Annabelle as of late, especially because the Warren's home and museum was sold. 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.320 Annabelle essentially went on a tour. 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:25.840 It's a national tour. 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:30.880 And there's been rumors that some people said like the Annabelle went missing during the tour. 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.960 That wasn't necessarily accurate, but Annabelle's handler at the time was Dan Rivera. 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:44.400 Dan Rivera was a US Army veteran who was from Connecticut, began attending Lorraine Warren's lectures. 00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:50.960 He worked with her in her final years, and he was named NESPR Lead Investigator in 2011. 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.760 So he was a reputable pillar of the community. 00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:01.440 And he sadly passed away in his hotel room during the tour. 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.400 Not with Annabelle, not anything of that

nature. 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:11.679 The coroner really revealed that it was cardiac related and natural because he had a known history of heart issues. 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:12.559 It's sad. 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:14.880 It's fucking terrible for his family. 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.079 Yeah, for sure. 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:24.079 Now, my belief about some of the copious amounts of bullshit that the Warrens have spun are in no way related to this man. 00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.239 There are a couple other things that have been claimed. 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.840 So one, there was a priest who mocked Annabelle as harmless. 00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:40.559 Lorraine warned him to drive carefully, and he reportedly had a near fatal crash that totaled his new car. 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:46.159 And in a 1987 talk, the warren said a priest who insulted the doll ran his car into a tree. 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:51.679 Okay, so you know, this is given isn't this giv this is given some like Robert the Doll kind of stuff. 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:53.280 See, that's what I'm fucking saying. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.239 I mean my aunt had a weird experience with Robert the Doll. 00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.760 Yeah, don't talk to ask permission. 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:01.119 Ask permission. 00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:03.360 Don't call him out of the street. 00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.000 Disrespect, yeah, don't disrespect the doll. 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.960 Another story goes that a young museum visitor heard about Lou. 00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:13.519 So again, Lou was the guy who had all the claw marks. 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:19.119 And this motorcyclist banged on the case and dared the doll to scratch him. 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:24.239 And the Warrens later claimed that he crashed his motorcycle on the way home and died instantly. 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:25.119 That's true. 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:27.440 I mean, there's only one way to find out. 00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.159 But Sean, do you know where Annabelle is right now? 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.519 Where is Annabelle right now? 00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:32.800 Annabelle's in Salem. 00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:33.599 Oh really? 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:34.239 Mm-hmm. 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:34.960 Uh-huh. 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:35.440 Okay. 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.440 Yeah, there is a new museum. 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.079 It opened on August 27, 2026. 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:41.599 It has 13 rooms. 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.719 There is admission starting at like 66 bucks. 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:46.880 Well,$66.60. 00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.679 And it is leased through December 23rd. 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:50.719 Couldn't be better. 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.519 The wife of Annabelle literally getting fame. 00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.679 Would you actually go visit Annabelle? 00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:56.960 I would for sure. 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.280 If I could get to Salem to see, I mean, I wouldn't go in there mocking Annabelle. 00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:04.800 I would be respectful, but I would definitely go see the doll. 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.440 Because you respect women because you're such a feminist. 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.280 And I respect the entities, you know. 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.199 I'm just trying to vibe, you know. 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:13.679 So you also respect Robert, got it. 00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:15.039 Yeah, Robert, I'm not going. 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:18.880 I'm just gonna go say what's up, ask if I can take a picture, you know. 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:19.519 That's all. 00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:24.320 I highly doubt I'll be able to, but if I was able to go to Salem before the end of December, that would be kind of dope. 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:25.679 What's stopping you, Sean? 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:26.960 Don't let your dreams be dreams. 00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.440 It's not that far-fetched, you know. 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:31.599 Could spend a little weekend trip. 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:32.639 Not bad. 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:33.920 In this museum. 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.320 They even have a bypass corridor for anyone who wants to skip the Annabelle room. 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:39.039 Nice. 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:40.239 I mean, that's safe. 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:40.960 Oh, damn. 00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:46.159 And this October they have a VIP photo experience with the doll and Bonnie Ahrens who played the nun. 00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:47.920 The Haunted Warren Museum. 00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:54.559 Oh no, I'm gonna give you the this looks like a Chat GPT graphic of a website if I've ever seen one. 00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.760 It's a museum full of the Warren stuff. 00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:58.320 Yeah. 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.079 Okay, I could get behind that. 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:03.599 Okay, flashlight experience starting at 6660. 01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:14.320 Encounter the real Annabelle and explore the Haunted Warren Museum filled with more than a thousand haunted objects, cursed artifacts, true crime items, and occult relics through an immersive self-guided flashlight experience. 01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.400 You have to go in with a flashlight? 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.440 Paranormal investigation experience. 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.119 Hey, Sean, we could do this. 01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:22.719 We could definitely do this. 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:25.039 Only available November to December. 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:32.000 Explore the Haunted Warren Museum during a three and a half hour paranormal investigation experience that includes a photo with a real Annabelle. 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:37.920 Get familiar with investigation equipment, take a museum walkthrough, and then begin your investigation with guides available to help. 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:43.519 Your experience includes a flashlight, special gifts, and a photo with Annabelle taken by our team and delivered digitally by the end of the evening. 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.119 That could be kind of fun, actually. 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.559 It's only$250. 01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:47.679 That's not bad. 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:48.719 Might be worth it. 01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:50.159 Let's go ghost hunt.