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three receivers to the near side right, one tight left, Milton back, feels pressure, hit by Reese and dropped. 00:05:22 Speaker 8: Back at the 44-yard line, so Reese will get credit for a second sack. Giants showing pressure. Milton takes the snap, here it comes, and he gets walloped and he fumbles it! Arvell Reese with the sack and forced fumble and the Giants have it at midfield. 00:05:37 Speaker 9: That was a wallop. 00:05:39 Speaker 8: Arvell Reese with the sack and forced fumble. He came off the edge like a machine and just took out Joe Milton who never looked his way. 00:05:52 Speaker 9: And the Giants recover it. Micah McFadden on the recovery. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: All right, let's give the full stat line here. Alvaro Ruiz, by the way, is today's player of the game. Brought to you by Earth Treasures Fine Jewelry, a proud partner of the New York Giants. 12 total tackles, 10 of which were solo, 3 sacks, a forced fumble. 00:06:10 Speaker 1: Just a monster game. You saw him in coverage in this game. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: He didn't have a forced incompletion, but Tiki, we saw a number of times he was right on his guy down the field. Came off of his guy on one play to make a tackle prior to the first down on a play towards the sideline. Just uses a blitzer. He beat Landon Dickerson one-on-one on one of them. He was unblocked on the sack fumble on the second. I don't remember how he got there on the third. I'd have to go back and double-check that. But just a dominant performance for rookie linebacker that every week is just getting better and better. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: It's so encouraging to see his development. It's fun to watch his development because you see his football IQ growing every week. He doesn't make the same mistakes early in the season. We talked about how his coverage was somewhat of a liability for this team. 00:06:52 Speaker 1: It's not any longer that. 00:06:53 Speaker 3: He hustles to the ball after Denard Wilson, after the Saints game, basically challenged everyone. If they're not hustling to the ball, they're traitors. And you see him flying around every single play. It is a pleasure to watch him play football because it's an old way of playing football. It reminds me of those old big linebackers like Carl Banks back in the day who would do whatever it takes to to find a way to will his team to victory. Now, again, he was a catalyst, but this entire defense played fantastic. Other than the one big penalty we talked about, they did not make a ton of mistakes, and they gave a little bit, never broke, and then ultimately they found a way to win the game on the defensive side of the ball, which was fantastic. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: For this giant offense. Giant team, I should say. You mentioned seven sacks for the Giants, D.K. I should list them. There are a lot of them. Arval Reese with the three. Micah McFadden had one. 00:07:44 Speaker 2: He did a great job run blitzing as well up the middle in this game. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: Really good job out of him. D.J. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: Reeder had a cleanup sack on a play where I think it was Shelby Harris and Kayvon Thibodeau drove the quarterback up in the pocket. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: That's what you want. The defensive tackle is supposed to delete the depth of the pocket. That's what he did. 00:07:59 Speaker 2: Darius Alexander with that sack late in the game. And then Smoot had the sack late in the game as well. So those are your seven sacks. And again, Tiki, it's just the way this defense has really transformed itself over the course of this year. And we were keeping track of that game for you. Caleb Downs just had an interception of Daniel Jones in the fourth quarter. 00:08:18 Speaker 1: Cowboys going to have the ball. They're going to win that game. 27-23. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: That makes the Cowboys 4-5. And the Giants are now 5-2-1. So I will quickly do math. That is a two-and-a-half game lead for the Giants in first place in the NFC East. But the way Denard Wilson has transported his defense into a pressure-based defense, Tiki, where since those first two games when they didn't blitz a ton, they are probably, I'll have to look at the numbers. I can check it during the next break. top two or three or four in the league in terms of blitz rate yeah. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: Blitz rate and it's helping them pressure wise at least against this team and a young quarterback and Joe Milton we knew this would be the game plan coming in because you have a young QB who three weeks ago was on a practice squad for a completely different team the offensive playbook was limited and And they can't run the football. I mean, the only offense that this Eagles team was able to generate was with Joe Milton's legs. And that was on scrambling on sometimes poor pass lanes. But regardless, it's just he's an athletic quarterback. And then a huge pass interference play on Deontay Banks. 00:09:21 Speaker 1: Other than that, this Eagles team couldn't do anything. We went through the drive log. 00:09:25 Speaker 3: It was at least seven or eight punts in this game and a couple of turnover on downs. going forward on fourth down. So credit goes to where it belongs. The strength of this team is this defense. And it's all levels of this defense, even though the stack totals prior to today weren't that high, this defense has been winning football every single week. 00:09:45 Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more timeout. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: Giants football is brought to you by Verizon, the official 5G network of the New York Giants. Verizon, America's most reliable network. When we come back, John Harbaugh on the podium. That and a whole lot more. We'll hear from the Giants players in the locker room as well. Giants, again, defeat the Eagles 19-11. 00:10:03 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 00:10:11 Speaker 8: Singletary goes out to the right. Neighbors in the right slot with

Likely and Theo Johnson. Field split left. Singletary comes set in the right slot. Neighbors moves to the left. 00:10:27 Speaker 9: Winston takes the snap. Back to throw. Fires it to the end zone. Touchdown Giants! Isaiah Likely on the skinny post. 00:10:38 Speaker 8: And the Giants are back in front with 225 to go here in the third. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: And that was the Giants' lone touchdown drive of the game. A 14-play, 76-yard drive led by backup quarterback Jameis Winston culminating in that Isaiah Likely touchdown. And that was the scoring drive of the game brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate $ 750 to the Giants Foundation to support their work tackling important community issues, improving. 00:11:11 Speaker 1: Overall health, and empowering our youth. And Tiki, J.J. McCarthy. 00:11:18 Speaker 2: I think it was the only play where he kept it on a keeper on a run play in the first two games he's played in. We thought it was Zach Bonner first that put the head on him. It was actually the safety Epps ended up getting him right on that side. At first, when we saw him on the side, I'm like, oh, man, maybe that looks like a rib injury. But when they made the announcement, ended up being a hip, goes into the blue tent, goes back to the locker room, comes back. And if Jameis Winston does not come into this game, Tiki, I don't think there's any guarantee that the Giants win this football game. You let the Giants on their only touchdown drive of the game. 00:11:49 Speaker 10: Right. 00:11:49 Speaker 11: J.J. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: McCarthy wasn't bad per se in this game. He was 12 of 19 for 127 yards, but he did take five sacks. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: And he also didn't turn the ball over to his credit. 00:11:58 Speaker 12: Of course. 00:11:58 Speaker 1: So he didn't throw the ball in harm's way. He wasn't. irresponsible. He wasn't trying to be desperate, but they didn't fumble on any of the sacks fumble, but he, but he did feel. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: Like he was a little bit less confident and composed than he was two weeks ago when he was so great against the Houston Texans. And so without Jameis Winston coming in this game, Finding a way. 00:12:19 Speaker 1: To make plays. One was obviously on the fourth and one. He scrambled. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: He picked up 10 yards. Some really timely and accurate throws when the Eagles were trying to bring pressure because they knew that the Giants were going to try to run the football. There were seven or eight guys in the box consistently, which left some man coverage that Jameis Winston was able to take advantage of on the back end. And then ultimately on Isaiah Likely's touchdown, again, it's man coverage. and the Eagles kind of get confused. The nickel coverage player on Isaiah Likely got fooled by the crosser, and Isaiah Likely is wide open, and Jameis, albeit a low throw, put it where it needed to be and got the touchdown to get them to 19. 00:12:59 Speaker 1: To 16 at that point. 00:13:01 Speaker 3: So Jameis Winston deserves a ton of credit for getting off the bench, grabbing his helmet, and turning into a winning player for this giant team. 00:13:08 Speaker 1: And I want to give Matt and Aggie credit. 00:13:09 Speaker 2: You mentioned, and I said it too, it was a blown coverage on the throw to likely, what was it, five, six-yard touchdown, whatever it was. 00:13:15 Speaker 13: Yes. 00:13:16 Speaker 1: Yes, blown coverage. 00:13:18 Speaker 2: But that's why you set your guys up in a bunch stacked formation. You do that so you create confusion on the defense. And there are a lot of teams around the league that run a lot of spread stuff. They don't run those stacks and bunches. And it's a thing that analytics people always say. teams that run stacks and bunches with those narrow splits. That's how you create a lot of that confusion and space. And that's what you did. You put an Eagles defense. That's playing some younger players back there in conflict because you set up that stack bunch formation and you create a confusion. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: All it takes is one second of miscommunication or just bust. And a guy is going to be wide open. If you're playing wide and you got them, everybody spread to the sidelines and it feels like I can win my one-on-one matchup. 00:14:00 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's, That one-on-one matchup doesn't win. Remember, Zach Bond left the game. He was not in the game. That's exactly right. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: The Eagles were struggling in that particular moment, that particular drive with Jameis, because I don't think they had seen that success pushing the ball down the field for most of the game. 00:14:18 Speaker 1: Not a knock on J.J. McCarthy, just the reality of how he played today. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Jameis Winston, as we know Jameis Winston has wanted to do, is going to push the ball downfield and make some plays. It ultimately led to a humongous touchdown for the Giants that allowed them to build a lead, and ultimately win the game. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: It's funny, Tiki, their blitz rate actually dropped below 30% in this game. It started out high. By the second half, it was well over 40% in the first half, so they backed off some of that. 00:14:39 Speaker 2: My guess is that on those final two drives, when they were just kind of keeping everything in front of them, playing a little bit more prevent, well, prevent, softer coverages. 00:14:46 Speaker 11: Right, right. 00:14:47 Speaker 2: Not prevent defense, softer coverages. That's when that blitz rate went down. But earlier in the game, they were certainly bringing the heat. And I bet you, I mean, I would have to look at the plays to be sure. Of their seven sacks, Tiki, I would say at least five of them. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: Came on blitzes. There weren't many four-man rush sacks in this game. No, there weren't. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: I mean, there were a couple, but most of them were designed

pressures to create confusion, also against an offensive line that is remade on the fly. I mean, this isn't a young offensive line that was put together in the offseason. This is an offensive line that. 00:15:19 Speaker 1: Lost their right tackle. to retirement. 00:15:22 Speaker 3: They traded their center and all of a sudden you got rookies playing at right guard. Jordan Milot is the only staple that's been there for a few years and communication is key. And when you mug everybody and you do some games up front, it challenges young and experienced players together. To make the right kind of decisions. And the Giants took advantage of it. 00:15:40 Speaker 1: And Tiki. 00:15:41 Speaker 2: I thought a much more balanced approach. In the second half as well. Devin Singatori just had six rushes in the first half. He had 15 in the second half. 00:15:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:15:49 Speaker 10: Now. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: They weren't effective. Of course not. They weren't very good. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: But. 00:15:53 Speaker 5: But. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: You stuck with the run. You were balanced. That prevented some of those negative plays. And sometimes when you're playing a team like the Eagles where your defense is dominating them and you're confident they're not going to score, you know what? A two-yard gain instead of dropping back and risking an interception or risking a sack or something like that, it's okay. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it is. That's okay. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to tell you, interestingly, even though nobody could have projected or predicted this, Gregory DeRoseway was the one that had the biggest runs. Now we got John Harbaugh who is down on the podium. 00:16:26 Speaker 14: It's been... God, it's been like 19 years, you know. 00:16:31 Speaker 15: And coming back in on the bus, seeing the link, coming down the highway, 95, and in a Giants bus, you know, it was really something. You know, I didn't think it was going to be quite that. 00:16:45 Speaker 14: But it was all that. And it was a moment. You know, this is Giants-Eagles in Philadelphia. You know, this is big. 00:16:56 Speaker 15: This is a big rivalry. And our guys played, and they played too. I mean, give the Eagles credit. They played a really good football game, a really tough football game. And our guys met the challenge. They never flinched. They never blinked. They played winning football, not perfect football, but winning football, and found a way to win the game, all three phases, especially starting with the defense. Special teams had some things early, but then got it together. Coverage was great, kickoff coverage and punt coverage. And then just the faith, belief, trust, what our team chaplain, John Paul, talked about, heart, guarding your heart. 00:17:27 Speaker 14: And we gave God the glory. 00:17:29 Speaker 15: In there at the end, too, just because sometimes you've got to get out of yourself and you've got to just believe in your God and you've got to believe in your men. And really, for me in the second half, when I kind of figured that out, you know, I was better. And we seemed to be better, too, for some reason. So just proud of the guys. It's a huge win for us. Now we've got five days, and we're right back into another gigantic game on Thursday night at MetLife. So proud of the guys. What questions do you have? 00:18:02 Speaker 9: It's that. 00:18:04 Speaker 15: They have it. They have what it takes. I don't know how to describe it other than that. I think they've had it all along, and they found it in these games. Sometimes it's one thing to have it and another thing to find it, and they've been able to find it in the way they play. 00:18:17 Speaker 14: They played hard. They played hard. 00:18:18 Speaker 15: They played rough and physical, but they also played really smart. 00:18:22 Speaker 14: We didn't give up big plays. We didn't turn the ball over. We did winning things. 00:18:27 Speaker 15: We kept everything moving forward for the most part. We punted the ball. We tackled. 00:18:31 Speaker 14: All those things were really good. 00:18:32 Speaker 16: I know going back, it's going back a ways, but the last time you had a quarterback get. 00:18:38 Speaker 17: Hurt, everything kind of felt jumbled for. 00:18:42 Speaker 11: The rest of the game. 00:18:43 Speaker 17: Today, it didn't seem like that. 00:18:46 Speaker 18: Right from that moment, can. 00:18:48 Speaker 15: You just talk about that aspect of it? 00:18:52 Speaker 14: That's a great point. That's a great point. 00:18:53 Speaker 15: I hadn't thought about that until you just asked the question in a comparison sense. I mean, Maybe it's the fact that Jameis has been playing so much, and now you've got J.J. 00:19:03 Speaker 14: Who had been in and came back in. But Jameis comes in. 00:19:05 Speaker 15: And really the throw of the game was the deep sideline route to Malachi in that long yardage situation after I think we took a sack. And he throws a dime right on the sideline, and Malachi runs a great route, just a great timing around, impossible to cover that route. Just as well executed as you can get for a first down. And that got that drive started. And it's tough sledding the whole way. It's kind of a defense you just got to stay after. You got to keep them on the field somehow. And it's hard to do that. 00:19:32 Speaker 14: And they did. 00:19:32 Speaker 15: And then they got it in the end zone. It wasn't a field goal. So, yeah, that to your point. You got to give Jameis a lot of credit and the guys a lot of credit around them. 00:19:40 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean. 00:19:49 Speaker 15: You've got to be kidding me. You know, I mean, you know, he's got that. He's in pain. He's in pain. 00:19:55 Speaker 14: And, boy, he ran fast for that first down, though, didn't he? 00:19:58 Speaker 15: You know, I mean, that acceleration there to see that, I guess a little adrenaline probably flowing through the veins. But just to come back,

and he insisted on it. You know, we weren't pushing him back out there. 00:20:06 Speaker 14: He was able to play. But he insisted on playing. 00:20:09 Speaker 15: Even at the end when we thought about maybe putting Jameis in there for the last drive, you know. And he insisted on being out there. And, yeah, it says a lot about him for sure. 00:20:18 Speaker 19: How much do you think that means to a locker room to see that kind of thing from a quarterback? 00:20:22 Speaker 14: What's it what? 00:20:23 Speaker 9: How much do you think that means to a locker room to see your quarterback, you know, something like that from a quarterback? 00:20:28 Speaker 15: I think it means a lot. I think it means a lot. Because I think it kind of just demonstrates the heart we're talking about. I mean, you know, every single player has the opportunity to lead and demonstrate that at some point in time. And, you know, to your point, the quarterback doing it, man, that's big. That's big to fight through that kind of thing. Fight through an injury, go back in, you know, take care of it, get back out there, you know. Now he's going to have to fight to get ready to play on Thursday. You know, that'll be part of it too. So pretty impressive. Darn impressive. 00:20:51 Speaker 14: Very impressive. He did. 00:20:58 Speaker 20: He did. 00:20:59 Speaker 15: Could have gotten two or three, you know, for what he did today. Yeah, I wanted to give him a grand slam. Like, he had a bunch of tackles. 00:21:11 Speaker 14: He had TFLs. He had sacks. He had pressures. 00:21:14 Speaker 15: You know, there was like– but there was like six things he did stat-wise that were amazing. Pat can lay them out later. He knows what they are. But he got the first game ball. 00:21:25 Speaker 20: Yeah. 00:21:27 Speaker 21: Yeah. 00:21:31 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, it's great. I mean, it's what you hope for. I won't say we didn't think it was possible. I mean, that's what we hoped for when he fell to us. I mean, Joe and I, we were giddy. I think, you know, we were kind of beside ourselves. Some of you guys use words like that, you know, giddy and things like that. And we were because, you know, he's really a good player. And he's all the other things too. He's a great young man. 00:21:54 Speaker 14: He's humble. He's very tough. 00:21:55 Speaker 15: He works really hard. He's very coachable. He wants to do things the right way. He's a great leader in his own quiet way. Yeah, couldn't say enough about him, but you know what? He's still young. He's got a lot in front of him right now. 00:22:19 Speaker 9: Yeah, it does. 00:22:20 Speaker 15: I mean, have there been games where everything's been going well for us this year? I'm trying to think if we've had any of those. But I would like to have one or two of those. I think we need to find out. how to win when everything's going our way, you know, and see how we are, see how we handle that. 00:22:34 Speaker 14: But, you know, this is what the NFL is, to your

point. I mean, it's tough. It's a crazy town. It's hard. 00:22:40 Speaker 15: Every team is really good. These guys were fighting for their lives. You know, you could see it in the way they were playing. And we still, you know, overcame what we had to overcome and won the football game. 00:22:50 Speaker 14: It's a big deal. 00:22:51 Speaker 1: Do you think about leaving in games? 00:22:54 Speaker 7: I know he was out. 00:22:56 Speaker 5: On the field. 00:22:57 Speaker 22: Yeah. 00:23:02 Speaker 9: We did. 00:23:02 Speaker 15: We had that conversation, and that was definitely part of the conversation. But, you know, the trainers and the docs said he was good, and he said he was ready to go. And so, you know, with that, we decided to put him back out there. 00:23:14 Speaker 23: You have 48 hours now to kind of put the finishing touches on the second half of what. 00:23:20 Speaker 24: You want to do in terms of the trade deadline coming up. 00:23:22 Speaker 9: What did they show you today that. 00:23:24 Speaker 13: Made the effects? 00:23:26 Speaker 14: Your thinking going forward? Yeah, that's a good question. 00:23:30 Speaker 15: There's nobody on our team that we think– there's nobody we'd want to trade. 00:23:35 Speaker 14: We like all of our guys. 00:23:39 Speaker 15: And there's really no– just somebody's got to come out that you really want to trade for that makes sense. So like with short-term and long-term, it's got to make sense, short-term and long-term. We're not just going to go for a short-term fix at an exorbitant cost. We're not going to do that. That's not where we're at. And usually when you do that sort of thing, it doesn't work out for you. you end up paying a hefty price and you don't get the return on it. So I never think that you're one step away or one player away. To me, it's always just a total momentum kind of a thing anyway. But if the right opportunity comes and there's a deal that makes sense for us, we'll do it. And I can tell you, Joe does a great job. All of the guys, I mean, Chris Rossetti, all these guys, Nikola Testa, Brandon, these guys do an amazing job and they're working hard at it. So, you know, we're making a lot of calls. We're calling everybody, you know, so. 00:24:26 Speaker 24: Yeah, it's a good question. 00:24:40 Speaker 15: I'd say we're, we're open for any kind of, any kind of situation, but I will say this, things do change, you know, things change from day to day. 00:24:47 Speaker 14: So it's not like, you know, it's not like, you know. 00:24:50 Speaker 15: You may one, one day you may do something the next day, something happens and it changes your positioning on things. So, um, I'm not saying that report's not true. Those conversations are taking place. If something happens for any player, I can't talk about any player because they're with other teams right now. We're not ruling anything out, but I don't see anything particularly imminent right now either. We'll see what happens. Thanks for asking

that. I should have given Dom a game ball, but you know what? He's supposed to make those kicks too, right? That's what he does, and he did it today. I would agree with that. I think it's important. You've always got to prove yourself. The guys trust you and believe in you, but they also... They want to see you do well. They want to see you do what you're supposed to do. And those weren't easy kicks. Those were legit kicks. Especially here, the wind was blowing from the corner behind our right shoulder back across to the other corner there. They weren't easy kicks. So to see him make those kicks was awesome. I think he did a great job. 00:26:03 Speaker 14: But that is what we see him as being capable of. 00:26:10 Speaker 17: You didn't want to really. 00:26:22 Speaker 14: Talk about that. 00:26:23 Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah. 00:26:23 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a crazy deal. I mean, it was something that I didn't even know about. But I think it's hovering is probably a good word for it. The first game ball went to our team owner and our leader, John Merrill. Chris accepted the ball. And John, he said, he goes, John's been texting me. 00:26:40 Speaker 14: The whole game. The whole game. 00:26:42 Speaker 15: And you don't know what he's been saying. So, you know, he's into it every step of the way. And to get this win for him and for the rest of the great people in the organization, plus the fans. I'll tell you, the fans, they were great. We had a bunch of fans here, right? We had a bunch of fans here. 00:26:57 Speaker 14: They were loud. They were great. And I love our fans. This is a special place. 00:27:03 Speaker 15: So, yeah, it's definitely real. You can't concern yourself with it. as far as getting ready for the game. But now it's over. 00:27:16 Speaker 25: All good? 00:27:17 Speaker 14: All right, thanks. 00:27:18 Speaker 2: That's John Harbaugh's press conference brought to you by Hackensack Meridian Health. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: Keep getting better. Two things before we go to break, Dickey. 00:27:23 Speaker 2: One, Giant fans have lamented over the past 10 years how– MetLife Stadium was taken over by Eagle fans when Eagle fans show up when the Giants are not playing well. 00:27:32 Speaker 1: Shue may be transferring to the other foot, at least for this year. Good to see. 00:27:35 Speaker 2: Number two, Dominic Zavada, four for four in this game. We had not mentioned him yet. Made field goals from 53, 49, 38, and then 49 at the end. 00:27:44 Speaker 1: A really important kick to make it a two-score game. So, nice game by Zavada. 00:27:48 Speaker 3: All of them mattered, especially because the Giants were stagnating when they were getting close to the red zone. They weren't in the red zone early in this game, and they had to settle for longish field goals. You know, the Jameis Winston drive, I think, was the only drive that they got down into the red area. 00:28:03 Speaker 20: And so. 00:28:04 Speaker 1: And your kicker, you have to rely upon. 00:28:06 Speaker 3: And maybe the bye week gave him a chance to just reflect on his process, get some mental help. Not that he has mental health issues, but he always talks about how he mentally focuses. And he had a college mentalist help him with a lot of things, reconnecting and getting himself back to the automatic type player that we thought he was going to be when the season started. 00:28:27 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a time out and we'll come back. We're going to get J.J. McCarthy at the podium, and we'll get other players in the locker room as well. Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: We'll have a whole lot more coming your way on Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point when we return. 00:28:41 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 00:28:49 Speaker 26: This is Malik Neighbors, and you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue, the fan WFAN and WFAN-FM New York. 00:29:02 Speaker 9: Carthy calls out Sickles on his third and five. Takes the snap. They pick up the pressure. He lobs it left for Nabors who makes the catch and then he gets waffled at the 25-yard line. There's a flag on the play. Gain of 24 for Nabors. 00:29:18 Speaker 2: Quiet game for Malik Neighbors. Just five catches for 43 yards. Dropped a potential deep touchdown pass late in the game. Would have been a tough catch. It was a diving catch, but hit him in both hands. I'm sure Malik will hear in a second. He'll tell you whether or not he should have caught that ball or not. We're back here on Earth Treasures. Find Jewelers Giants Extra Point. Giants football is brought to you by our local Ford stores. Ford is proud to be the official vehicle of the New York Giants. 00:29:38 Speaker 1: Let's go to Malik Neighbors. locker room after the game. 00:29:41 Speaker 27: It means a lot. You know, we hit a division. 00:29:44 Speaker 26: It's another division rival that we had to win. So I'm glad that we came in and got the win. 00:29:48 Speaker 27: What happened to your face? 00:29:49 Speaker 26: I'm not really sure. I caught the ball on the corner route. I just felt like I was bleeding. 00:29:57 Speaker 27: So I looked and I was bleeding and they just stitched me up. 00:30:00 Speaker 21: How impressed were you with McCarthy's ability to come back after the hip injury and obviously. 00:30:05 Speaker 14: Secure the victory for you guys? 00:30:06 Speaker 26: I mean, that just shows how much he means to this team, how much he wants to be out there with his guys, shows the grit, shows how much he's a dog. And then coming out with that hip corner that he has, just to deliver the football and give us the opportunity to come out with a win, it just shows his grit. 00:30:22 Speaker 21: When he games in the division and you're undefeated in the division, albeit the one time with. 00:30:26 Speaker 24: Washington, Coach always says those are the most important games. How does that make you

feel? 00:30:29 Speaker 26: For sure, it's very important. But, you know, we're humble and we're going to keep stacking them. We got another division rival up this Thursday, and we continue to get better at practice and try to find a way to get that win also. 00:30:40 Speaker 13: I like you guys also. 00:30:43 Speaker 19: Winston, for him to come in like that after what he's been through this year getting benched, what does that show you? 00:30:49 Speaker 27: It just shows how, you know, he puts in hard work every week. 00:30:52 Speaker 26: You know, he trusts us, and, you know, it was great to see him come back in there and lead us on our drive after we was going on a drop for so long and trying to score. 00:31:01 Speaker 27: Just great to see him get back in there and get us in the end zone. 00:31:04 Speaker 15: What happened on that end zone? 00:31:07 Speaker 27: I mean, just kind of just slipped out. I made that play. 00:31:12 Speaker 26: 10 times out of 10, but just that one time, you know, it got me. 00:31:17 Speaker 27: So you had to make up for it on the onside kick, I guess? Yeah, I guess so. You guys are. 00:31:23 Speaker 19: Not just staying afloat without Jackson, you're 4-1-1 now without him. 00:31:28 Speaker 14: Why have you guys been able to thrive despite him not being out there? 00:31:32 Speaker 26: I mean, this team, you know, this team, you know, we just got gritty people. We got gritty guys willing to go out there and compete. Our defense has been doing a hell of a job of just giving us opportunities back on offense. 00:31:44 Speaker 27: We tried to score some points, so got to give kudos to the defense. On offense, we just. 00:31:49 Speaker 26: Got to find a way to pick it up and play a four-quarter game. We can't just come out at the halftime and want to play a game. We got to play a game all four quarters. 00:31:58 Speaker 21: Back to the onside kick, have you ever had to field one before as part of a hands team? 00:32:02 Speaker 27: No, that's my first one. Even in college? No, that's my first one. 00:32:05 Speaker 21: So how nerve-wracking is it knowing, hey, if that ball comes to me, I've got to hold on to it? 00:32:09 Speaker 27: I mean, I wasn't nervous. I mean, I'm surprised they kick it to me. 00:32:12 Speaker 5: I'm nervous. 00:32:13 Speaker 27: I would kick it somewhere else, but, I mean, I guess so. You usually do the thing where you, like, knock it out of bounds. Y'all see that? 00:32:21 Speaker 21: Yeah. 00:32:22 Speaker 27: Oh, I usually do that, but in the moment, it wasn't coming that fast. 00:32:26 Speaker 26: So, I mean, just trying to get the ball secure. 00:32:29 Speaker 27: We'll take a couple more. 00:32:30 Speaker 28: Malik, the broadcast showed some moments of what looked like frustration. 00:32:33 Speaker 29: What were the ebbs and flows of this game like for you? 00:32:36 Speaker 5: Oh. 00:32:36 Speaker 26: I mean, you know, like I said, you know, we got to be able to offense to play a full quarter game. I mean, we can't come out slow in the first quarter, second quarter, and only be able to put up six points. I felt like we were just, you know, lackadaisical out there, you know, just playing, letting the game come. And I feel like, you know. In a division game, you have to go attack people. You have to go attack the game. And I felt like we was just lollygagging our way on through the game. 00:32:59 Speaker 27: So, you know, I had. 00:33:00 Speaker 26: Frustration about that, trying to wake everybody up just to make sure, you know, we're playing a game right now. It's not time to play. We're trying to win. 00:33:08 Speaker 27: We need this win. 00:33:09 Speaker 26: So I was just frustrated on just, you know, how we was handling our offense and trying to. 00:33:14 Speaker 27: Get people to, like, wake up and let's play. That's the only thing. 00:33:17 Speaker 24: Do you think that happened? 00:33:20 Speaker 26: I think once we came into, you know, halftime and words got spoke, you know, our coaches challenged. 00:33:26 Speaker 27: Us to come out at halftime. And, you know, that first half wasn't us on offense. 00:33:30 Speaker 26: So I think when they asked us to go out there and put an end to the game, we did that. 00:33:35 Speaker 27: So, I mean, I guess. 00:33:38 Speaker 26: Our main players got to be able to speak up when it's time to speak up. If it's going to get everybody up to energize to go play, then I'm going to continue to do that because I know what we're capable of doing on offense. I'm just frustrated how we came out and just trying to let the game come to us even though they had so many things going on on. 00:33:57 Speaker 27: Their side of the football and their organization. It was just about us, and I just try to wake everybody up. 00:34:04 Speaker 1: That's Malik Nabors. 00:34:05 Speaker 2: Let's pause 10 seconds for station identification on the WFAN Giants radio network. 00:34:09 Speaker 6: Home of the New York Giants. 00:34:12 Speaker 9: WFAN. 00:34:13 Speaker 6: WFAN-FM. WFAN-FMHD1. 00:34:16 Speaker 4: New York. 00:34:17 Speaker 6: An Odyssey Sports Station. 00:34:20 Speaker 2: You're listening to Earth Treasures Find Jewelers Giants Extra Point. John Schmuck, Tiki Barber. Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. Tiki, the one thing I'm happy to hear from Malik Nabors, and we have had other players here. mostly ones that play the wide receiver position, where you might have a game that doesn't go your way from a personal standpoint. Five for 43 for a wide receiver like Malik Nabors. 00:34:41 Speaker 1: It's modest numbers. 00:34:43 Speaker 2: He dropped the pass to what he said in his postgame press conference. It's a pass he'll catch 10 out of 10 times. He just happened to drop it this time. But did you sound how happy he was? 00:34:53 Speaker 1: Of course, because he's winning. No, I know, but winning, winning cures all. No, usually. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: But I'm sure you're a player sometimes where even if you win, if

individually you didn't do well, they were unhappy. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: He doesn't care. I think that's I'm happy to hear that. 00:35:05 Speaker 3: I think it's also the personality that this team has because of John Harbaugh and their coaching staff. 00:35:10 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 00:35:10 Speaker 3: They're rooting for each other and they ultimately collectively they're going to find a way to have. And ultimately, you know, I think individually you do look at your stats. Sometimes you do look at your usage rate. It's a baseball term, but we'll use it here. You look at, you know, some of these moments where you want to be able to impact the game. the game and it doesn't come your way and it's easy to get frustrated. But as long as someone else is doing it, it gives you a chance to fight another day, a fight another down and then get your opportunity going forward. And I, I love his maturity because obviously football's an emotional game. So when he gets asked a question about showing displeasure on the sideline, it's that's natural when you're not playing up to your potential and as a unit and him individually, you're frustrated. 00:35:58 Speaker 1: But the fact that it was also, it wasn't just him individually though. It was the unit. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: Like, it's not like he's mad that he's not getting the ball, but the team is 21 points. 00:36:05 Speaker 12: Yes. 00:36:06 Speaker 5: Right. 00:36:06 Speaker 1: The offense was struggling. He's like, well, you know what? If I get the ball, I can help us score. But the fact that they won the game seemed to be all that mattered to him. Yeah, exactly. 00:36:15 Speaker 5: Right. 00:36:15 Speaker 3: And again, you're five, two and one. You're sitting atop the division. The commanders who you play on Thursday just lost to the Rams. And you feel like you still have, control over everything that's going to happen going forward. And that's a, I mean, it's a blessing given where all the injuries that this team has sustained, but it's not to be happy. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: Right. 00:36:32 Speaker 3: There's nothing not to be happy about. You obviously want to play better, but it feels worse when you have, when you have that saying and you lose and you, you, you let one slip away. 00:36:41 Speaker 1: So to speak, they, they didn't do that. 00:36:43 Speaker 3: They were able to finish this game mainly because we started the post game with the defense was exceptional. They had an advantage, a big advantage in time possession, almost 10 minutes in this game, and they really shut down the Eagles on offense. And when they needed to make the plays on offense themselves, they were able to do it, even with their backup turned third-string quarterback, now the starter, being back under the center with Jameis Winston. 00:37:10 Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to Philadelphia, and Jameis Winston's at the podium. Our press conferences are brought to you by MetLife, the official insurance company of the Giants. 00:37:18 Speaker 10: Absolutely. 00:37:19 Speaker 18: Precious for the unprepared. Grateful that our team was playing well and we ended up having a good drive. 00:37:26 Speaker 23: How did you escape on that 10-yard run? 00:37:29 Speaker 21: How did. 00:37:32 Speaker 5: You do that? 00:37:33 Speaker 18: Good protection and the good Lord allowed me to find the lane and get outside. 00:37:39 Speaker 9: How about that pass to Mooney, I think it was? 00:37:41 Speaker 5: 27 or 28, you. 00:37:42 Speaker 1: Want to talk about that play? 00:37:45 Speaker 18: Outside leverage by the nickel defender. He had a lot of grass, so I threw it to grass. He made a good cut to separate. It was a good play call by Coach Nags. 00:37:57 Speaker 9: Did you lobby to stay in? 00:38:00 Speaker 18: I do whatever's required for the team, and I think that's the beautiful thing about a football team. Whatever our coach wants us to do, we have to be willing and able to do it our very best. Yeah, the gratitude is when you get the opportunity to play, no matter what role you have, it's go out there and do your best. And I'm just happy that we were able to get something going. My teammates had my back. And it's a football team, all 53 of us. We lined up and we got each other back. So I'm so grateful to be a part of this team. I think the circumstances are the circumstances. But today we found a way. And when you're in a division game, like this, finding a way to get the win and go out there and execute is the most important thing. Yeah, like I'm I'm so focused on like the present what happened 13 years leading up to this it is really none of my business and But what's happened now is today is the New York Football Giants. You have to say that they won in Lincoln Financial Field today. So I'm happy for Coach Harbaugh. I'm happy for ownership, if they viewed it that way. But the most important thing was we did what we wanted to do, but we still have room for improvement, and we still have to play these guys again. David, thinking of the present, what is it about this team, what is it about the quality of this team that allows you to find your way to win I think it starts from the top. We see our owner being resilient, our owners being resilient, persistent, and expect a lot from us. And it travels to the head coach who is pushing us to be our best, challenging us to be our very best, challenging us to be tough and respond to moments like this. And then it just trickles on down to us. We have a bunch of men in that room that are willing to persevere. You saw that today. When things weren't going our way, you know, in the middle of the second quarter, right? But we responded because we stood together, we had each other back, and we found a way. 00:40:53 Speaker 6: Do you appreciate the challenge of being ready and having to be ready. 00:40:56 Speaker 30: Like you did today to come off the bench? 00:40:59 Speaker 18: You know, challenges activate potential, right? And this

team has a ton of potential, and myself and other people in this team are going to continue to get challenged over and over again. But us being prepared and ready to do our very best is what's required. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: That's Jameis Winston after the game. The Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. 00:41:18 Speaker 9: J.J. 00:41:18 Speaker 1: McCarthy will also be at the podium. 00:41:20 Speaker 2: We'll have that and a whole lot more as we continue right after this on Earth Treasures Find Jewelers Giants Extra Point. 00:41:25 Speaker 1: Again, Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. 00:41:28 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Find Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 00:41:35 Speaker 15: This is head coach of the New York football Giants, John Harbaugh, and you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue, the fan, WFAN and WFAN-FM, New York. 00:41:50 Speaker 9: Third and ten, play clocks at two. 00:41:52 Speaker 8: McCarthy takes the snap, climbs the pocket, slides to his left. Now he's going to run to his left. He runs and he's got the first down and he steps. 00:42:01 Speaker 9: Out of bounds. At the Philadelphia 48-yard line. Hobbles, but he's throwing back out there. Gain of 11. 00:42:10 Speaker 2: And that was some of the toughness J.J. McCarthy showed. Left the game with a hip injury, went back. Into the locker room, in the blue tent before that. Came back out. Clearly was not 100% in trouble moving around, but he gutted out this game. Coming back in after that Jameis Winston touchdown drive. 00:42:27 Speaker 1: The lone touchdown drive of the game, and J.J. 00:42:29 Speaker 2: McCarthy helped close this game out for the New York football Giants. They defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 19-11. Welcome back to Earth Treasures, fine jewelers. Giants extra point. John Schmeltz, Tiki Barber with you, awaiting J.J. McCarthy downstairs. But in the meantime, how about we listen to Micah McFadden. He had a big game for the Giants yesterday. At linebacker, playing alongside Alvaro Ruiz, using him on some of those interior blitzes against the run. And in the pass game, Micah McFadden had nine tackles of his own, five of them solo in this game. He had a sack, tackle for loss. He had a fumble recovery. Here's Micah McFadden after the game. 00:43:00 Speaker 1: First of all, after. 00:43:01 Speaker 21: What was a very tough work on the first half, I understand. 00:43:05 Speaker 17: Some things were said. 00:43:06 Speaker 21: Can you give me some generalities as to the nature of that conversation and how it sparked you as a second half player? 00:43:12 Speaker 31: Yeah, I think we just need to get on track. 00:43:14 Speaker 27: I mean, defensively, I think we were having a good game. 00:43:16 Speaker 31: You know, we gave up that one drive that kind of ended with that penalty that. 00:43:21 Speaker 14: Let him score. 00:43:22 Speaker 31: But, you know, I think we just need to walk in, take over the game, and, you know, the offense came out and did that. 00:43:27 Speaker 5: You had nine. 00:43:27 Speaker 21: Tackles in the first sack in two years and a fumble recovery. 00:43:31 Speaker 14: So let's go to the sack and the fumble recovery. 00:43:33 Speaker 9: Big plays. 00:43:34 Speaker 5: What can you tell me about both of them? 00:43:36 Speaker 31: I mean, yeah, that's just Arvell being Arvell, you know, flying off the edge. All I saw was the dude's legs go in the air and the ball was flying right there. So, I mean, he had a great game. It was fun playing next to him. But, yeah, you know, it's obviously great to be back up. 00:43:51 Speaker 32: And what about yourself? 00:43:53 Speaker 31: Yeah, you know, I honestly didn't know I had a sack. 00:43:55 Speaker 11: I think, you know, I thought. 00:43:56 Speaker 31: It was, yeah, I know, somebody, you know, usually it's first touch, but, yeah, just kind. 00:44:01 Speaker 4: Of, you know. 00:44:02 Speaker 24: I mean, Chase Milton is not easy. 00:44:03 Speaker 12: Yeah, I know. 00:44:04 Speaker 27: You know, it was a blitz, and then I think I just ran the. 00:44:06 Speaker 24: Center into the quarterback, and, you know. 00:44:08 Speaker 27: He must have tripped up. 00:44:09 Speaker 1: That's Micah McFadden after the game. 00:44:11 Speaker 4: J.J. 00:44:11 Speaker 1: McCarthy is on the podium. Let's listen to him. 00:44:13 Speaker 33: Yeah, obviously the play was quarterback-driven run, and I pulled it based off my read, and, you know, kind of was... the goal is to get to the numbers, get out of bounds. And, you know, I pulled it back inside and, you know, kind of saw Vaughn late and tried to get my shoulder down, didn't get it down enough and he made a great hit. And at the end of the day, you know, I just got to protect myself and do a better job of doing that. 00:44:39 Speaker 3: When you left to go into the locker room, were you following what. 00:44:45 Speaker 14: Was going on with James? 00:44:46 Speaker 18: I was, yes. 00:44:47 Speaker 33: And, you know, it's, Just a testament to Jamo. 00:44:51 Speaker 34: He's a true pro. 00:44:52 Speaker 33: To be able to step in there and be that spark and lead the team down the field, it was absolutely awesome to watch. Just so proud of him and the way he carried himself throughout the entire week and throughout this whole process. I was really happy for him to go see him do that. Great catch by Zay. So many guys were making plays. It was really awesome. It was great for our team to go down there and get some points. Just feeling, you know, kind of side effects of the hit from before. And, you know, it was a big first down. And, you know, getting there with my legs, you know, by all means, we were doing whatever we can to win this game. And, you know, that was obviously a big play where I needed to step up. And, you know, happy we did that. 00:45:58 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:45:58 Speaker 33: And also it was, you know, my first time, you know, running full speed and trying to get it, you know,

going, obviously you can't really run that far in this locker room. So, uh, Just being able to get out there and just get it moving right away was kind of the goal. Just to feel it out and make sure that I was ready to go full speed. 00:46:24 Speaker 23: Feel good. 00:46:25 Speaker 33: At the end of the day, like I said, it's a physical game and a lot of guys are banged up, but we're going to do our best to make sure we turn over as fast as possible and do whatever we can between now and then, and make sure we're as close to this 100%, you know, leading up to a great opponent against Washington. You know, they're going to be hungry, and we're really excited to go get this one. 00:46:44 Speaker 5: When you were in the locker room or you were in the examination. 00:46:47 Speaker 7: Room, where exactly were you? 00:46:49 Speaker 5: Both. 00:46:50 Speaker 10: Both? 00:46:50 Speaker 1: Yes, sir. 00:46:51 Speaker 35: How anxious were you to get back out of that field? 00:46:54 Speaker 5: Extremely. 00:46:55 Speaker 33: You know, if I'm able to walk, I'm able to throw, like I want to get back out there as soon as possible. So, you know, just like I said, can't thank, you know, the team enough. the athletic team, for just really doing everything that, you know, was beneficial towards me. They didn't really push any lines or anything like that, and, you know, just can't thank them enough. 00:47:14 Speaker 1: Did you know that Jameis had thrown a touchdown pass to Isaiah? 00:47:18 Speaker 13: Yes. 00:47:18 Speaker 9: How did you know that? 00:47:19 Speaker 24: Just watching on the TVs. 00:47:21 Speaker 20: And then where? 00:47:22 Speaker 25: Where were you? 00:47:23 Speaker 33: I was in the locker room throwing the ball around. 00:47:25 Speaker 20: Yes, sir. 00:47:25 Speaker 9: Do you hope the team sees your commitment to this. 00:47:28 Speaker 24: Franchise the way you want to get back. 00:47:31 Speaker 7: Out there as much as you did? 00:47:33 Speaker 33: That's a great question, Bruce. I feel like, you know, it was definitely a moment where, you know, it was one of those things where, you know, you have to make that decision. 00:47:42 Speaker 14: But at the end of the day, no. 00:47:43 Speaker 33: Matter what, it's about my brothers and do whatever I can to help them, you know, the best I can to go be successful. And I felt like I was able to, you know, do enough to make sure that we can move the ball. And obviously, yes, put it all on the line for this organization and everything I can to help go get a win. 00:48:00 Speaker 6: You obviously had a number of injuries that kept you off the field in Minnesota. Is that a source of motivation to not let that happen again? 00:48:09 Speaker 33: For sure, and part of the frustration. I let my emotions get the best of me on the sideline, and that's something that I'm a little disappointed with. But at the end of the day, it's a physical game, and I need to do a better job of making sure that I protect myself and really focus on just being available at all times. 00:48:30 Speaker 36: You let your emotions in what way? 00:48:31 Speaker 14: The helmet? 00:48:33 Speaker 18: Yeah, the helmet. 00:48:33 Speaker 33: Yeah, that was uncharacteristic. And, you know, obviously they didn't met life when I hurt my finger. And, you know, it's just one of those things where you can't let emotions get to you. You got to be able to just, you know, move on to the next thing and keep calm and keep going. 00:48:48 Speaker 9: You know that they wanted to get you with them, right? 00:48:51 Speaker 21: Yeah. 00:48:51 Speaker 13: By the way? 00:48:52 Speaker 12: Yes, sir. 00:48:52 Speaker 5: Okay, there's nothing you can do. 00:48:53 Speaker 4: To discourage them from doing that. 00:48:57 Speaker 33: It means the world. You know, the fact that JMO and I got to do it, it's just a testament of what this team's all about. And, you know, I can't thank, you know, the Maras, the Tishes, the ownership, just the organization for putting this group together because it's a really special group. And, you know, to get a gritty win like this, an environment like this, and obviously the past was what it was. But, you know, to find a way to win, that's all that matters is going 1-0 every week. And, you know, we did that today. 00:49:30 Speaker 37: We talked a lot about, you know, beginning of the week we asked you about playing on the road and college and all the atmospheres. 00:49:39 Speaker 14: This has always been an atmosphere, like you said in the past, that the Giants have to deal with. About six minutes to go, you guys have to change possession. 00:49:47 Speaker 17: I see you know where I'm going. 00:49:50 Speaker 3: The fans behind your bench, the players kind of waving their arms. 00:49:53 Speaker 17: What was that like for you? 00:49:56 Speaker 33: It was amazing. You could just feel the passion and the excitement and the desire to win from the entire fan base. It gives us so much motivation out there. I was telling the guys in the huddle, Look around. See that blue is starting to fill up more than green. It just gives us that much more juice to go out there and execute that next play. I can't wait to see the home fans Thursday night and be able to really give them a show. Offensively, we've got to do a better job, but the defense played fantastic today. Special teams played fantastic, and we're excited to make it right. 00:50:33 Speaker 4: Anything else? 00:50:35 Speaker 18: Thank you guys. 00:50:36 Speaker 1: That's J.J. 00:50:36 Speaker 2: McCarthy after the game. Did a really nice job there on the field. So you slammed your helmet on the thing after you got hurt. I honestly don't have a huge problem with that. It's not like you threw the helmet at somebody or something like that. I understand him being a little emotional, said he should have protected himself a little bit better. It's also a design, you know, keep her on a run. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's supposed to get

out of bounds, as he said. You know, not try to cut that thing inside because all the pursuit is coming from the inside. 00:51:00 Speaker 1: He was pretty far from the sideline, but yes. 00:51:01 Speaker 5: He was. 00:51:02 Speaker 3: He thought he had a chance to, you know, pick up some yardage. And sometimes as a– he's not the– the vision to runner that Jackson Dart is. 00:51:11 Speaker 1: He's also not as thick as Jackson. He's tall, but he's a little bit more slender. But he does need to protect himself. You don't need to take those shots. 00:51:17 Speaker 3: And obviously everybody thought after the initial hit that it was a concussion, that he got hit in the helmet. He really just got hit in his ribs and lower body. I couldn't even really tell what contacted his hip, but it was a hip pointer. Those things are a pain in the butt because they hurt plenty of them. Because back in our day, we didn't wear hip pads. 00:51:36 Speaker 1: And so... You get you get hit in the hip and it's it's a thin part of your body. There's no there's no fat. So you're right. 00:51:43 Speaker 3: Basically like a bone bruise. And it just it stings for a long time as you as you saw. I mean, he couldn't even run when he first started. He went down immediately on the sideline and even on the long run that he had in the second half when he came back in the game, you could see him pulling up like feeling the. like the pain shooting through his leg as he was running down the sideline. But he's gritty, and that's what you want from a football player. It's a tough physical game. You know you're going to get beat up. You've got to be available, and he's aware of that. 00:52:10 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a timeout. 00:52:11 Speaker 2: When we come back, we will get our play of the game, and we'll get final thoughts from Tiki before we say goodbye to our network right here as the Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. 00:52:23 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more after this. 00:52:25 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 00:52:32 Speaker 26: This is Darius Alexander, and you're listening to Giants football on the fan WFAN and WFAN-FM New York. 00:52:43 Speaker 9: One and three from the Eagles 43. 00:52:47 Speaker 8: Giants lead 19 to 11, six seconds to go. Barring a defensive penalty, the game will end on this play. Milton back to throw, he's under pressure, Milton gets sacked at the 40 yard line. Darius Alexander got in there. 00:53:03 Speaker 23: How about Denard Wilson saying, nope, we're gonna make you, we're gonna pressure you right now and make you get rid of the football. 00:53:11 Speaker 1: Fitting the Giants end the game on a sack. Their seventh of. 00:53:14 Speaker 2: The game, and it was today's play of the game, brought to you by our local Ford stores. Ford is proud to be the official vehicle of the New York Giants. Back here on Earth Treasures, find Jewelers Giants Extra Point. Our player of

the game was Arvel Reese. He spoke to the media after the game. 00:53:29 Speaker 1: Let's listen in. 00:53:30 Speaker 24: Milton's legs were kind. 00:53:31 Speaker 9: Of abusive on a number of plays, but you seemed. 00:53:33 Speaker 24: To still find ways to track them down. 00:53:35 Speaker 12: How difficult was it? 00:53:37 Speaker 28: You know, it's always difficult. 00:53:39 Speaker 14: You can run and throw it. 00:53:40 Speaker 23: So, you know, it's always going to be difficult. But, yeah, like I said, I. 00:53:43 Speaker 28: Fought them in some of the plays. 00:53:44 Speaker 1: In some of the plays, he got away. 00:53:45 Speaker 17: So, yeah, it's a good matchup for them. 00:53:47 Speaker 19: Is that about the hardest you've hit someone? 00:53:50 Speaker 28: Probably on the second. What does it mean to contribute to a D's team and get a win? 00:53:57 Speaker 27: It mean a lot, bro. 00:54:00 Speaker 23: They were saying a lot during the week, like, we won here forever. 00:54:03 Speaker 10: So, you know, you know, you know. 00:54:04 Speaker 28: Was this your best game? I think it was probably one of them. So far in the league, it was probably him. 00:54:24 Speaker 27: And about the pressure, you know. 00:54:27 Speaker 15: The pressure you guys were in, was it the conscious. 00:54:30 Speaker 37: Effort to say, this guy's making his first start, we've got to show him some media? 00:54:33 Speaker 23: Yeah, that was definitely the idea, you know. Like you said, making his first start. And then once again, credit that. 00:54:38 Speaker 7: To the real play call, you know, put. 00:54:40 Speaker 23: Us in the right situation, put us in the perfect position to. 00:54:42 Speaker 22: Go that way. 00:54:44 Speaker 9: What do you think of your defensive group overall today? 00:54:48 Speaker 23: I think highly of our defensive group. I took my hat to everybody we got on the defense. Every time stuff ain't going right, I can always look around and see that everybody ready or not. I say that probably because I see it all the time. Every halftime, I look around and everybody ready to go. I took my hat. 00:55:05 Speaker 12: To our defense. 00:55:06 Speaker 21: From a defensive perspective, how much more enjoyable is a win when you lock down the final possession and see that you've won it in the scoreboard? 00:55:13 Speaker 23: Yeah, man, that's super exciting. We always like to say we're going to win games on defense. 00:55:22 Speaker 9: Arville, what's it like to get that free run? 00:55:24 Speaker 7: When you know you have that free run at the quarterback, what's the deal with you. 00:55:28 Speaker 9: Getting that hit right there? 00:55:30 Speaker 23: Man, I'm thinking of running back on blocking, but as soon as I see him lead, I'm like, oh, he did it. 00:55:35 Speaker 27: I'm like, man, it's as free as a layup. 00:55:37 Speaker 23: Can't miss it for you. 00:55:38 Speaker 35: But as it like step by step by step, you get closer and closer and closer. 00:55:42 Speaker 9: You leveled the guy. 00:55:43 Speaker 27: Like just take us through like each step as you're getting through. 00:55:45 Speaker 5: Each step. 00:55:46 Speaker 23: I mean, like I said, the first, I'm like, okay, the back don't block me. I see him go away. I'm like, okay, it don't block me. I see the QB still holding. I'm like, okay, I'm going to keep holding. So that's what I'm. 00:55:58 Speaker 27: Going to talk about. You surprised two more guys. Oh, I wasn't going to think about that. 00:56:03 Speaker 23: I heard the ball came off, so I'm. 00:56:05 Speaker 1: Looking for the ball. 00:56:06 Speaker 24: So you've had a pretty nasty rookie. 00:56:07 Speaker 1: Year, but do you think riding in the NFL has. 00:56:10 Speaker 29: Been different or made it easier than you thought it would be? 00:56:14 Speaker 23: I don't really know how to answer that, but I just like to. 00:56:20 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:56:20 Speaker 23: I like to take it like play-by-play, game-by-game. When I think about stuff like that, I'll probably think about that at the end of the season. 00:56:26 Speaker 19: Why do you think you're– why is your book seamless, I guess? 00:56:31 Speaker 23: I think I just ended up on the right team, man. 00:56:35 Speaker 17: I ended up in the hands of some great coaches there. 00:56:38 Speaker 1: Coach Bushnell, Coach D. 00:56:40 Speaker 14: Will, Harv. 00:56:41 Speaker 20: I think I ended up in the right team. 00:56:44 Speaker 24: Thank you. 00:56:45 Speaker 1: I love what Arvo Reese said right there, Tiki, because he's right. 00:56:48 Speaker 2: If he goes to a different team that sees him as an edge player, and instead of doing what he's doing with the Giants, where you're covering, you're playing the run, and you're rushing the pass, you're behind the line of scrimmage, you're being used in a lot of different spots, he's just sitting on the edge, I will. 00:57:02 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not a soothsayer. I can't guarantee what would happen. 00:57:05 Speaker 2: I would be blown away, shocked, on the floor, crazy surprised that he would be having the type of year he's having this year if he was drafted to another team that saw him as an edge. So give the Giants front office... Harbaugh and Denard Wilson a lot of credit yeah they. 00:57:18 Speaker 3: Don't you didn't know how he was going to be utilized when he was drafted because everyone assumed that he was just an edge rusher but he spent so much of his time at Ohio State off ball even though he did rush to rush the passer a lot and it feels like he was off ball more than he rushed I agree but now you see him now at you know eight weeks into the eight games or nine weeks into this NFL season you're feeling like Denard Wilson is utilizing him kind of like Ohio State utilized him. 00:57:42 Speaker 12: Exactly. 00:57:42 Speaker 1: He can play off the ball. 00:57:44 Speaker 3: Obviously, he's a great sideline-to-sideline tackler. He's a menace with pursuit. But he also can

get after the quarterback. And he's got the skill package to be a rusher, even if he's interior or on the exterior. And he beats guys because he's such a good athlete. And they're utilizing him in the perfect way that's allowing him to find success early in his career. 00:58:06 Speaker 1: And, you know, my. 00:58:08 Speaker 3: My biggest take with rookies is, God, these guys don't figure it out. It takes them a long time to figure it out, and you sometimes can't trust them. 00:58:15 Speaker 1: Took them one game. 00:58:16 Speaker 3: It took them– I mean, it's really– no, it was probably three games. And after three games, you realize how good he is and how good he's going to be. 00:58:24 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 00:58:25 Speaker 2: The guy that was in that joyous locker room, it was so joyous we could barely hear some of the guys answering questions down there, was Paul Dottino, who was trying to ask us questions over the day of celebration after the game. Paul, look– Tiki and I, when you go off, we'll talk about the things the Giants need to do better. It was not a perfect game by any means, but it's in Philadelphia. It's against a division rival. They did what they had to do to win this football game. 00:58:48 Speaker 12: That's true, John. You look at the fact that they are still undefeated in the division. You look at the fact that everyone in the division has at least five losses, and they have two. John Harbaugh had told us last week that these two games this week were the most important games of the season. This would set the Giants up. for doing whatever they wanted to do. Well, they got the first one, and I want it. add, by the way, I talked to Greg Newsome about Arvel Ruiz because I know you just played him a moment ago. Newsom is very emotional. He's very illustrative. He's very outgoing. He's always souped up and he's always spewing as much energy as he can all the time. So I said to him, you know, I've always just had this incredibly dominant game. What is he like in the huddle? Does he get any souped up? Because it seems like he's more like a common cool, you know, like an assassin. And he's like, oh, no, no, no, no. He is flatline. He is straight. he's serious he just comes in and he just does his stuff and he wrecks games you know he doesn't show any emotion and those are. 00:59:49 Speaker 2: The guys you should be scared of the most by the way those are the guys you should be scared of the most tiki the guys that are quiet and they just go about their business those are the guys that are scary. 00:59:57 Speaker 3: No you're right those are the guys that you know are dialed in and i think that's what you see when you watch him play he's just dialed in to where his responsibilities are and you know the combination of him and mike and mcfadden have been fantastic these last couple weeks we thought with Jermaine Edmonds going down, the Giants were going to lose something. I mean, I'm not saying they've gotten better, but they've

definitely gotten impactful on the second level. 01:00:19 Speaker 12: Yeah, there's no question, Tiki. And I'll tell you something else. J.J. McCarthy, talked about how important it was for him. And this is an interesting dynamic because we talked about teammates and how much they care for each other. 01:00:32 Speaker 20: J.J. 01:00:32 Speaker 12: McCarthy is in at the podium after the game, and everyone's telling him, oh, how great this was, your one-division game. You know, you came back in after being, you know, momentarily knocked out. Isn't this awesome? And he's like, no, no, what's really awesome is that both Seamus Winston and I got to participate in this win. Remember, it was Winston, while McCarthy was out, who threw the touchdown pass to Isaiah Likely that gave the Giants the lead to stay. And that was important to McCarthy. I mean, how many of you guys talk about that? 01:01:01 Speaker 2: And Paul, by the way, not just through the touchdown pass, led the longest drive of the game. A 73-yard touchdown drive, the only touchdown drive of the game. Me and Tiki said this earlier in the postgame, they might not win this game if Jameis Winston doesn't come into this game and lead them on that drive. 01:01:15 Speaker 12: I think that's highly possible, John. Look, I also want to throw out another bouquet to Dominic Zavada. You know, he kicked two field goals in the first quarter, the first one coming from 53 after some of the yips that he's had, you know, earlier in the season, obviously even in Houston. And then, of course, kicked two field goals in the fourth quarter. 01:01:34 Speaker 13: He was 4-4. 01:01:36 Speaker 12: He had four field goals for the second time this season. And you know what? If he doesn't kick off four of those field goals and make off four of those field goals, what's the situation when Philly gets the ball down by eight points? It's maybe not eight points when they get the ball and find them in the game. 01:01:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right about that. I think the rebound for Dominic Zavada was one of the great pieces of this game because it's something you've got to count on. Games in the NFL, we always talk about it, are won on the margins. It's the little things that matter. And kicking field goals is one of them. I think in addition to that, you saw some really good issues that kind of, really bad issues that reared their ugly head. 01:02:14 Speaker 1: Including the penalties. 01:02:15 Speaker 3: They had nine penalties for 86 or so yards. 01:02:18 Speaker 1: Or something like that. 01:02:19 Speaker 12: Seven in the first half. 01:02:20 Speaker 3: But they never felt like they didn't overcome them, especially defensively and That's a testament to not getting frustrated by a tough game. Tough games tend to wear on you emotionally, but you've got to find a way to stay heightened, and this team did that, especially on the defensive side. 01:02:38 Speaker 12: Yeah, I totally agree. If I can add one more item that I think may get lost in tomorrow's papers and tomorrow's talk shows. Sure. Darius Alexander, on the final Eagles possession, came up with half a sack, a pass defense, A big tackle. He has had a disappointing season. I think we would all agree the Giants wanted more from him. But on the last Eagles possession, he really showed up big. And he said he was determined to do it. A number of the Giants had said that at halftime, there was some conversation about how they needed to pick it up. And they could not let this game slip away. And guys needed to put their pedal to the metal. And he was one of the guys who, on the last series for Philadelphia, he made sure that he showed up. 01:03:22 Speaker 1: Paul, have a safe trip back up to Turnpike, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. Be good, Paul. 01:03:26 Speaker 20: Okay, John. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: Thanks. 01:03:27 Speaker 2: That's Paul Dottino. And before we say goodbye to the network here, Tiki. We talked about all the great stuff the Giants did today. Well, as I said when we brought Paul in, this was not a perfect game. 01:03:36 Speaker 20: All right? 01:03:37 Speaker 2: The Eagles right now are not a good football team. Joe Milton is not a very good quarterback. It was still a one-possession game. Eagles with the ball with a chance to tie it at the end. You would prefer not to be in that situation. So what needs to get better over the next few weeks? Commanders on Thursday on a short week. Then you have some really tough games. Jaguars, some of the better teams in the league coming to town. You're going on the road for some of those games as well. What from this game do you want to pinpoint? Look, we need improvements here, here, and here for the Giants to be a better team. 01:04:03 Speaker 3: I think specifically you look at J.J. McCarthy's play. So in game one that he started against the Texans, he felt right on time with everything. And the Titans never took away that first read. But when you go back and you watch that Texans game, it felt like– I said Titans. 01:04:19 Speaker 1: I meant the Texans. 01:04:20 Speaker 3: The Texans were allowing J.J. McCarthy to get the ball out quick. I think it was two seconds to pass in that game last week. and his guys were open. 01:04:29 Speaker 1: His first option, usually. 01:04:30 Speaker 3: His first option was always open, and it's always been with young quarterbacks, and even J.J. 01:04:34 Speaker 9: McCarthy. 01:04:35 Speaker 3: I think this is why Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota was so frustrated by him. Once he got off schedule, that original first throw, he would struggle, and he couldn't find that second read, that second progression, and he struggled with that a little bit today. Now, he mitigated it by just keeping the ball short. He only had really one big pass down the field, and that was the first one to Malik Nabors. All the other ones were his wide receivers catching the ball short and making plays down the field. So I think that's

where you need to work. That's where J.J. McCarthy still has to be on this grind and not get comfortable in what he's doing. The other things are going to come. Malik Nabors is not going to drop that pass. It's individual players, as we've been talking all season long, making the play when it's offered to them. And Malik had a chance to really put the game away with that touchdown. It resulted in a field goal, which kept it to a two-score game. If that goes to essentially a three-score game, for the Eagles, who hadn't done anything really the entire game, then the Giants are able to walk away more comfortably going into the latter part of this game. So it's just improving those little things that we know they can do that they just haven't done consistently enough. 01:05:42 Speaker 1: I'll go to the offensive line here, Tiki. You allowed six sacks in this game. 01:05:45 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:05:45 Speaker 1: Too many. Now, a couple of those are covered sacks. Right, but C.C. 01:05:48 Speaker 3: Malinoa wasn't good in this game. He struggled in the run game. There was a couple of plays where he's just He's not getting hands on the defensive line, and they're sliding past them and making stops in the backfield. And they also, I mean, as much as we want to, I don't know, diminish the impact of a running back, they need Cam Scadaboo back. Duosier was the best runner in this game from patience, making second-level misses, and picking up yards. 01:06:14 Speaker 1: And so they need their run game to get back to what it was a week ago. Yeah, I don't want to put this on Singletary, though. I thought they were just free runners in the backfield the whole game. They did not have– Carl mentioned this during the broadcast. A lot of stunts, run blitzes, slants. And then you had linebackers run blitzing and just free runners all over the place. Look, I haven't gone back and counted. This had to have been the game where they had the most negative runs in any game this year. No, there's no doubt about it. 01:06:36 Speaker 3: I mean, they even said it on the broadcast, Carl and Bob, how it felt like the tackles for loss for the Philadelphia Eagles were at a ridiculously high And what that does is it puts you in second. And then ultimately, how many third and longs did the Giants have in this game? Now, they converted some of them. 01:06:53 Speaker 2: So, Tiki, Eagles had six sacks but 14 tackles for loss. 01:06:57 Speaker 1: That means eight tackles for loss in the run game. 01:07:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:07:01 Speaker 1: That's ridiculously high. It's just bad. I mean, that should be key number one as they– Get on. 01:07:07 Speaker 3: This short week and try to attack the commanders next week on Thursday or this coming up week on Thursday because they're going to do the same thing. Once you put something on film and you show vulnerability, it becomes the target for the next team that you're playing. 01:07:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the commanders are more of an attacking front. This is more of the Fangio gap and a half to gap system, but it'll be different front. 01:07:25 Speaker 1: But you're right. I would expect them to. attack it the same way. All right, everybody, please stick with us. 01:07:30 Speaker 2: If you're listening on our local flagship station here in New York, but for now it's time to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country on the giants radio network. If you want giants coverage over the course of this week, make sure you check out all of our content, big blue kickoff live. Comes your way every weekday at noon. We take your calls. Talk Giants football is live on the Giants app. Giants.com slash Big Blue Kickoff. Or go to the Giants YouTube channel and you can stream the show there live as well. 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We'll see you on Thursday night on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. But we're not done right here on WFAN in New York. We have another 40 minutes or so to go. Tiki Barber and I will take your calls at 888-808-1019. We'll get some more sound from the locker room as well. Paul mentioned Greg Newsome. 01:09:12 Speaker 1: We have that. We'll play that. We have Isaiah Likely. 01:09:15 Speaker 2: That and a whole lot more as we continue right after this on The Fan. 01:09:19 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 01:09:22 Speaker 5: This is Jameis Winston, and you're listening to Giants Football on the Fan, WFAN and WFAN-FM, New York. 01:09:38 Speaker 8: Second and 11 at the Eagles 46. Winston takes a shotgun snap. Back in the pocket. Fastball over the middle. He's got Mooney at the 20. A tackle from behind by Dejean at the 19. And Winston hung in there with pressure coming on the backside. 01:09:55 Speaker 9: Gain of 27. 01:09:57 Speaker 2: That was probably the best throw that Jameis Winston made on that drive. Pressure in his face, hitting Mooney on that crosser. Perfectly in stride out in front of him for the catch. We're back here on Earth Treasures. Find Jewelers, Giants, Extra Point, John Schmelke, Tiki Barber. Don't forget Giants TV presented by Bob's Discount

Furniture. It's the official connected TV app of the New York Giants. Available for free now on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon, Fire TV, and inside the Giants mobile app. Stream game highlights, interviews, TV shows, and more exclusive video. Content with Giants TV. Let's open up the phone lines, folks. 01:10:26 Speaker 1: Get on the line. We'll take your calls for the next 40 minutes or so at 888-808-1019, 888-808-1019. But in the meantime, Isaiah likely spoke after the game. He did lead the Giants today in both receptions. 01:10:39 Speaker 2: He tied the league neighbors at five catches, led the Giants at 53 receiving yards. 01:10:43 Speaker 1: This is what he had to say after the game. 01:10:45 Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's just being a pro's pro, Jim. It's just, you know, when his numbers call getting in there and being able to get the offense on track. I mean, obviously... You know, it's a great defense. You know, they're going to fight hard. So just knowing that, you know, every play matters. 01:10:57 Speaker 27: How big of a game was this? Because, you know, they're going to get a couple in five days. 01:11:01 Speaker 7: This is the time of the year now where they can start to get crunch time. 01:11:04 Speaker 1: How important was a win like this one? Giving them the out, what did you have to overcome? 01:11:08 Speaker 9: I'd say it's a big win. 01:11:08 Speaker 29: I mean, it's a division opponent. You know, first time us playing them, first time I'm playing them, you know, in the division. So, you know, you want to make a good statement. You want to, you know, stay at the top of the division. You know, obviously that was important to us. And I understand that, you know, this is going to set us up for down the road. 01:11:23 Speaker 19: Isaiah, I don't know if there's many teams in the league who have faced more adversity than you. 01:11:28 Speaker 24: Guys have to this point. A lot of that would sink a lot. 01:11:31 Speaker 9: Of other teams. 01:11:31 Speaker 24: You guys are sitting here 5-2-1. What does that mean about the guys you have in your locker room? 01:11:36 Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean, that just, you know, shows, you know, the type of compassion and family mantra that we have that we preach every day. that we went through in training camp and just going out there and telling your brother, like, you can count on me. 01:11:47 Speaker 23: What does it mean to see J.J. 01:11:49 Speaker 18: Come back into the game? 01:11:50 Speaker 27: Like, you could have stuck with Jameis. 01:11:52 Speaker 38: He's obviously banged up, you know, fighting through it. 01:11:54 Speaker 34: What does that mean to see a quarterback wanting to do that? 01:11:57 Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean, that just shows you, you know, the type of grit and compassion that, you know, every player on this team has for each other. That's showing that, I mean, if you could be out there, just be out there. And, you know, that's the type of mantra, type of grit that you want

to have in the division. You know, when you get your chance, make sure you make it count. 01:12:14 Speaker 9: Is it kind of crazy to some degree how much you. 01:12:16 Speaker 13: Guys have changed? 01:12:18 Speaker 29: I mean, this is definitely the first time I've ever, you know, been this type. But, I mean, that's just when, you know, the playmakers guys got to show up. You got to make their life as easy as possible, obviously. You know, if they don't take the reps with you that week, you got to make it so it's second nature when they do get in there. 01:12:32 Speaker 19: You haven't been here for all of it, but a lot of the guys have been here for some of the 13 straight losses. 01:12:38 Speaker 18: Yeah. 01:12:39 Speaker 27: How much of a. 01:12:40 Speaker 19: Focus, was that for anybody here, just like ending that streak? 01:12:44 Speaker 29: Man, I told them the same thing I told y'all. I didn't care how many losses they had in the past. The mantra was want to know this week. That started from when we beat. 01:12:53 Speaker 27: How many we had in the past? I wasn't here in the past. 01:12:57 Speaker 29: Anyways, but that just shows, you know, this type of, you know, short-term memory that the team has to know that, you know, the point that we have this week is trying to be want to know that week. 01:13:07 Speaker 1: You've been part of good teams before. Tuesday is the trade deadline. 01:13:10 Speaker 19: Would you like to see your coaching staff, your front office, add to this team and say, hey, we believe in you guys. 01:13:15 Speaker 1: We're going to give you even more? 01:13:17 Speaker 29: I mean, if they can get playmakers, the more the merrier. But, I mean, I love the guys that we have now. I feel like, you know, not all wins are going to be pretty. And I feel like, you know, those are the gritty wins that you want to have, you know, going into where you're trying to get to. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: And those are gritty wins, Tiki, and I think he put it well. 01:13:32 Speaker 1: And that's what the Giants have gotten this year. They haven't gotten any. Wins? 01:13:37 Speaker 2: Probably the week one win against Dallas was the one where they was the most convincing one this. 01:13:40 Speaker 1: Year, to be totally honest with you. 01:13:41 Speaker 3: But that was still a one-score game. I mean, all the wins have been one-score games. Arizona wasn't, and ultimately they won by 12. 01:13:49 Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, but that's a fake 12, because they were trying to go in for the touchdown to tie. No, you're right. 01:13:54 Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like this team is going to win on the margins, and they're going to be mistake-prone, as is often the case with a new staff and some young players, but Ultimately, and your third string quarterback, basically, who wasn't on the team, you know, four weeks into the season. So there is a lot of work that still needs to be done. And on a short week, it's even more challenging, especially battling some

of those injuries. I don't know if Cam Scadaboo is going to be available, but the run game needs to improve. Obviously, the penalty situation needs to improve, but ultimately. They find ways to win because they're so well coached, and their defense is playing at a ridiculously high level. 01:14:30 Speaker 2: Let's go to Evan in Sparta. He'll lead us off today on Earth Treasures, Fine Jewelers, Giants Extra Point. Evan, what's going on? 01:14:36 Speaker 18: Hey, guys. 01:14:37 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. 01:14:38 Speaker 12: Tiki, you said it perfectly. 01:14:39 Speaker 25: It set up the stage perfectly for what I was going to say. 01:14:42 Speaker 4: I'm so fired up. 01:14:43 Speaker 25: It's been so long since we've been beating our rivals, so to finally have these wins under our belt, couldn't be more excited. Wasn't pretty, but we'll take it. Coming to what you were saying, though, assuming that we can't actually convince you, because I know you guys were talking about it in your show earlier this week, about doing one more game and lacing them back up. 01:15:04 Speaker 4: Who's on the radar? 01:15:05 Speaker 25: Can we get Derrick Henry here? 01:15:07 Speaker 22: And it's a short. 01:15:08 Speaker 25: Week besides being the trade deadline. 01:15:10 Speaker 22: So what's realistic? 01:15:12 Speaker 25: Because we need the help bad. 01:15:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. 01:15:14 Speaker 3: And it's not, I don't think there is a realistic running back option. I guess Tony Pollard is. Is someone who people keep talking about. 01:15:20 Speaker 1: But he would be a rental, which John Harbaugh says he doesn't want. 01:15:23 Speaker 3: And so you're not going to see that. The Jonathan Taylor option was out there. The Giants offered a second and a fifth round. 01:15:30 Speaker 1: Pick, I believe. That was the report. That was the report. 01:15:32 Speaker 3: But it is subsequently Jay Glazer I chatted with before the show. And he said that they pulled that. I think the smart money would be on a D tackle. But De'Ron Payne was the one they had their eye on. He's now hurt. And so I don't see it happening, despite what a lot of people are looking at right now. A team that's 5-2-1 has a comfortable lead in the division and feels like there's still. 01:15:58 Speaker 1: Room to get better. 01:15:59 Speaker 3: But in order to upgrade the room, you might have to mortgage a little bit too much from what you want to do. And I don't think the Giants should or will do that. 01:16:06 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of wanting to mortgage a lot for a trade, let's go to Bruce in Flushing. Bruce, what's happening? 01:16:09 Speaker 25: Hey, Bruce. 01:16:10 Speaker 18: Hi, guys. 01:16:11 Speaker 20: Hey, Tiki, listen, here's the bottom line. You need a running back. I know the trade doesn't make logical sense, but I'm the Giants. I give up a number one, next year's number one, and whatever picks I have to do to get the running back from the Colts. Now, you could tell me, Bruce, it's not logical, it doesn't make sense. Just look at the Knicks. He played his five number one big draft picks for Mikael Bridges. Did that make sense? 01:16:44 Speaker 10: No. 01:16:45 Speaker 20: But you know what? He got us a championship. 01:16:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, it resulted in a championship, so it definitely made sense. Yes, absolutely right. 01:16:51 Speaker 1: And he was exactly what they needed at the time, a defensive wing that could shoot. 01:16:54 Speaker 3: But the Knicks are a little bit different because they also, appreciate your call, Bruce, they had multiple seasons of taking the steps, right? 01:17:03 Speaker 1: They were climbing the ladder slowly. Got to the playoffs. Losing the first round. Losing the second round. Losing the third in the championship round. 01:17:09 Speaker 3: And eventually you needed to make a decision to shore up and and find that difference-making type player. And Mikael Bridges ended up being that for them. No matter what you say about his season this year, which has been bad, he's playing 12, 13 minutes a game. 01:17:23 Speaker 1: He hasn't shot well. 01:17:24 Speaker 3: And he hasn't shot well at all, but it was worth it because you won a championship. I don't know if the Giants are there yet. I don't know if their mentality is there yet. Yeah, they're sitting atop the division, and they have a real good chance of making the playoffs, but you can't put so much in front of you that you hurt yourself as you still try to build this team. 01:17:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and. 01:17:44 Speaker 2: I honestly, and look, we don't know what the Colts are thinking, what they're asking for. We've seen the reports, you know, either a first or the equivalent of a package that got traded for McCaffrey, which was a two, three, four, and I think. 01:17:56 Speaker 1: Two fives, if I remember right, or another four, something like that. 01:17:59 Speaker 2: It was basically the equivalent of a one if you add all those picks together, right? And that's what it's the equivalent of. So look, if Jackson Dart's healthy, I think we're having a different conversation. 01:18:10 Speaker 1: Correct. 01:18:10 Speaker 10: Right? 01:18:11 Speaker 2: I think then the formula's different in terms of what you're willing to do and what you're willing to give up. If you're at this record and Jackson Dart is playing at an extremely high level, then you're sealing all of a sudden. 01:18:22 Speaker 1: You're like, hmm. 01:18:23 Speaker 18: Right. 01:18:23 Speaker 1: It feels different. It feels higher. Wait a second. It feels higher. 01:18:26 Speaker 2: It's a little bit different when you have your third different quarterback on the roster and you're trying to make a run. 01:18:31 Speaker 1: Trading a first-round pick. Now, again. 01:18:35 Speaker 2: For any team that would trade for Jonathan Taylor, we don't know. 01:18:38 Speaker 1: We can't connect teams with the Giants or any of the teams. And there's a lot of teams that are

looking. 01:18:42 Speaker 3: That are in a similar. The Denver Broncos are a prime example. 01:18:48 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. 01:18:49 Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that are likely willing to offer more than what the Giants are willing to offer. And the other thing, from a Colts standpoint, is it You don't want to suck. We talked about this on Evan and Tiki, our show with Sean. 01:19:03 Speaker 1: And this is where I was going with this. Yeah, go ahead. 01:19:05 Speaker 3: The last thing the Colts want to do because they're desperate for picks right now because they don't have a first round pick is suck for three years to try to get themselves back. And when you trade away one of the best players in the league, you're probably not surrounding whoever the quarterback is next year because I don't think it's going to be Daniel Jones with not enough talent. to make him good or viable for the upcoming season. So I think the Colts have a lot of decisions to make regarding their best player in Jonathan Taylor, as much as we may pine for him. 01:19:33 Speaker 1: You're also signaling to your fan base, but more important to your locker room, that you're giving up on the year. 01:19:38 Speaker 22: Yes. 01:19:39 Speaker 2: And to your point, they not only want draft picks because they don't have their first this year, you get no benefit from being awful this year. So if you finish with one win and you're getting the first pick, guess what? 01:19:51 Speaker 1: You're not getting the first pick. You're helping the Jets. 01:19:53 Speaker 2: So that trade makes you– now look, the GM's gone already, so there's not like anyone in the building that it reflects poorly on. But still, as an organization, go ask the Carolina Panthers, who the first-round pick that they traded for Bryce Young turned into Caleb Williams. 01:20:06 Speaker 1: Do you think they feel good about that? No, of course not. I don't think they feel good about that. 01:20:10 Speaker 2: So as the Colts, I think that when you think about that, That's the way you have to think about it. How do they want to manage that situation moving forward? All right, let's go next to Chris in Warwick. Chris, what's going on, pal? 01:20:22 Speaker 1: Hey, Chris. 01:20:23 Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing, guys? First of all, thank you for taking my call. I just want to say thank you to the Giants fans and to everybody for this victory today. It was a huge victory for the New York Giants, and psychologically speaking, I just feel like these guys, with everything they have going on, and since Harbaugh's been here, this connection and everything with the fans, with the players, has. 01:20:51 Speaker 13: Just been amazing. 01:20:52 Speaker 4: And I think it's just. 01:20:54 Speaker 20: I. 01:20:54 Speaker 4: Can't control the way I feel right now. This victory today was huge. Huge, huge, huge. 01:21:00 Speaker 1: It was huge. 01:21:00 Speaker 4: And coming off a bye week. 01:21:02 Speaker 3: And coming off a bye week where we talked about what's the impact of a bye week. 01:21:06 Speaker 1: It's time to get away. 01:21:07 Speaker 3: But it's also, unfortunately, it kind of stunk some of your momentum that you built in the Texans game. And you felt it in the first half. Our halftime report, we were. looking at this team like they were sleepy. I mean, they moved the ball in the first couple of drives offensively. 01:21:21 Speaker 1: We looked at each other and said, they're playing so poorly. They're going to figure out a way to lose this thing. It was ugly. 01:21:25 Speaker 3: It was ugly both sides for the Eagles and for the Giants. And it's one of those fears that you have where your team ends up playing down to the opponent. And it felt like against the Saints, that's what the Giants did. They played down to the opponent. They let them hang around and eventually got outscored over a stretch, 34-0. 01:21:43 Speaker 1: By the way, same for the Commanders and same for the Cardinals. That's exactly right. And so the really good teams in this league— Even the Titan game. 01:21:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, the really good teams in this league, when they play someone who is below their weight class, they destroy them. And the Giants had a chance to do that, but there was too many mistakes, too many penalties, and not enough consistency on offense. Luckily, their defense— is immune to that, and they play at a high level. It seems like every single week, ever since they were challenged by Denard Wilson, and that's how they're winning games. 01:22:09 Speaker 1: They have a really good defense. 01:22:10 Speaker 2: And that's why I think when you look at the larger discussion about how much you're willing to give up in a trade, Tiki, if this was a team that when they were facing some of the bottom feeders in the league, that they were just romping them, then you'd feel good about it. 01:22:24 Speaker 1: Because then you see what the ceiling is. 01:22:26 Speaker 2: And look, it speaks to the coaching and the character of this team and the players. that they're able to win all these close games. But the fact that they are all close games tells you kind of where the team is in the overall hierarchy of the national football. And there's nothing wrong with that, by the way. It's just where they are. And that's– look, no one expected them to be a 13-win team this year when they hired John Harbaugh. 01:22:48 Speaker 1: They're outplaying their expectations. 01:22:50 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Because, look, we know that coaching makes a big difference. But there's also a mentality that this team is still building and they don't fully have yet. And part of that's because they're on their third string quarterback, J.J. McCarthy, who was on the Minnesota Vikings to start this season. And he's still learning what Matt Nagy is asking him to do. And the teams are going to attack him like a young player that he is. I mean, I know he's in his third year, but

it's not like he's played a ton of football and has seen it all. And so there's still a ton of work to be done, especially on a short week against a division rival. 01:23:23 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Anthony in New Jersey. 01:23:24 Speaker 14: He's up next. 01:23:24 Speaker 1: Anthony, what's happening? 01:23:27 Speaker 8: What's up, guys? 01:23:28 Speaker 32: I don't agree with the call earlier, how he said, let's give up a couple first-round picks or whatever. I don't agree with that. Let's give up for Jonathan Taylor. I would like maybe a second from this upcoming draft and then next draft and then maybe a couple, maybe two or three-thirds because you don't want to give up a first-round pick because there's still a lot of growing that the Giants could do. And if you don't get Jonathan Taylor, you could maybe get Henry or you could get his back uphill. From Baltimore. 01:23:53 Speaker 13: Yeah. 01:23:54 Speaker 1: No, you're starting to hear some of that noise percolating a little bit. They aren't trading Derrick Henry. And I don't think they are either. 01:24:00 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, by the way, said he hopes to come back this year. And they're trying to signal to him. 01:24:05 Speaker 1: They're not out of it. 01:24:06 Speaker 9: Right. 01:24:06 Speaker 1: By any means. And Lamar Jackson is someone that you're trying to get to stay. 01:24:09 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:24:09 Speaker 2: Remember, guys, he has an $ 85 million contract hit next year that he can either. 01:24:14 Speaker 1: Say, all right, well, this is my last year, guys. I'm done. 01:24:17 Speaker 2: And they can't tag him. And he has no trade clause. 01:24:20 Speaker 1: That's right. 01:24:21 Speaker 2: So Lamar Jackson can basically control his destiny here. So the Ravens don't want to signal to him that we're trading away the bell cow running back that we think we can. 01:24:29 Speaker 1: Win a Super Bowl with. 01:24:30 Speaker 3: The other thing with Derrick Henry is how many years does he have left playing at a high level? 01:24:34 Speaker 1: I mean, he's averaging... less than four yards a carry for the first time, I think, in his career. Is he under four yards a carry? I didn't realize that. Just barely. He's 3.9 yards per carry. No, but still, that's low for him. 01:24:42 Speaker 3: It is low for him, especially because of the impact that he's had over all of his seasons as the bell cow. He's leading the league, I think, in carries this year still. But at some point, you have to ask yourself, is this a short-term trade for Derrick Henry? Is it affecting you now and next year? What does it mean for you? And I think there's a lot that still has to go into before the Derrick Henry deal becomes anything close to reality. 01:25:06 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a timeout. We'll come back. Still got plenty of calls to take. We'll hear from Greg Newsome in the locker room as well. That and a whole lot more here on Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point. The Giants defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 19-11. They improve to 5-2-1. 01:25:20 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 01:25:27 Speaker 38: This is Gregory Newsom II, and you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue, The. 01:25:32 Speaker 1: Fan, WFAN, and WFAN-FM, New York. 01:25:39 Speaker 8: Milton takes the snap, they don't blitz, they only rush four. Milton back, throws one left, and the pass incomplete for Cooper, broken up beautifully. 01:25:49 Speaker 9: By the giant defense. 01:25:51 Speaker 8: And, Carl, that was a great play because it looked like Cooper was going to make it. 01:25:55 Speaker 9: Newsom separated him from the ball. 01:25:58 Speaker 2: That's Greg Newsom breaking that pass up. Giants defeat the Eagles 19-11. Back here on Earth Treasures, find Julio's Giants extra point. Here's Greg Newsom, who just got a contract extension from the Giants. He spoke in the locker room after the game. 01:26:11 Speaker 38: I think it's the first time we just stepped foot out here. When he came out here, we started OTAs and things like that. 01:26:17 Speaker 1: Just his willingness to learn. 01:26:20 Speaker 38: Just his ability, like people don't give him enough credit for being as smart as he is. Like he's off the ball. He has blitz packages where he lines up in different places. And he's just super physical. So I think from day one, just seeing how violent of a player he is, we knew that he would be this good. 01:26:36 Speaker 37: Could you i mean the 13 straight losses has nothing to do with you because you were not different but could you tell what the fans behind at some point like wow this means something you know it's a little you know it's a big rivalry there's a lot of fans behind your bench and they really seem to enjoy. 01:26:51 Speaker 38: This yeah i mean for us personally like you said i just got here um so if it means something to the fans it means something to me so uh the ability to get this win here was huge um Shout out to the fans for coming in and supporting. And we just got to continue this over on Thursday night. 01:27:06 Speaker 10: What did JJ show? 01:27:07 Speaker 9: You know what I mean? 01:27:08 Speaker 1: He gets hurt. 01:27:09 Speaker 13: You know, he's playing okay. 01:27:10 Speaker 14: He gets hurt. 01:27:11 Speaker 1: Went down. 01:27:12 Speaker 4: He's back. 01:27:13 Speaker 20: He's in. 01:27:13 Speaker 14: Jameis plays a touchdown. 01:27:14 Speaker 1: Then Jameis comes back in. Runs for a first down. 01:27:16 Speaker 9: What did he show you? 01:27:17 Speaker 20: Toughness. 01:27:18 Speaker 1: Grit. 01:27:19 Speaker 27: That's exactly what you see in a player like that, man. 01:27:22 Speaker 38: He's been playing unbelievable. Shout out Jameis as well. He got a game ball today. Just him being ready. You know what I'm saying? Like he's always ready. He's still our leader as well. So shout out to him for being ready. But for that guy

to come back in the game after getting a hit like that, it shows toughness and it shows how much he loves his team. 01:27:41 Speaker 21: How much of a game wrecker is Orville Reese becoming? 01:27:45 Speaker 27: Only a rookie? 01:27:46 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. 01:27:47 Speaker 38: I just told him defense rookie of the year. That should be set in stone. Now we're looking at a defensive player of the year. That's what we're kind of looking towards now. But, no, man, he's unbelievable. I said it from day one. A guy that plays that violent, his ability to rush the pass or his ability to play in coverage, I don't think people give enough credit for just how smart he is. He's off the ball, then he has to go in this gap, rush this way, then he has to rush this way. That takes a lot. And for you to put that much on a plate for a rookie, that shows you how talented he is. 01:28:19 Speaker 24: Now, I've talked to you about how emotional you are. 01:28:22 Speaker 6: Is he emotional? 01:28:23 Speaker 23: He looks very stoic. 01:28:24 Speaker 1: He looks very methodical in the huddles. 01:28:26 Speaker 38: Just like this the whole entire time. He gets us pumped up in his own way. Like I said, his violence, that gets us pumped up. And he says stuff to us, but he's a guy that's just gonna stay even killed the whole entire time not too high not too low but um he definitely brings a lot of energy out there. 01:28:41 Speaker 2: His violence gets us pumped up yeah that's what i want to hear of course. 01:28:45 Speaker 3: You see it because he his ability to track a ball carrier and then lay a strong hit it's unique for a rookie because rookies often take the wrong angles. 01:28:57 Speaker 1: The speed is different. 01:28:58 Speaker 3: So, like, when you're attacking downhill towards a runner or even towards the sideline on a runner, you don't know where your strike point is, but he's so good at it. I mean, we said earlier how he's one of the great sideline-to-sideline rookies in the league right now, and it's not just, you know, the sacks that he had. 01:29:15 Speaker 1: It's all levels that he's asked to play. He's playing it so ridiculously high right now. 01:29:20 Speaker 2: And, you know, T, there are some players– that no matter what their 40 time is, and Arvel's was good. 01:29:25 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. He was in the 4-5 for a guy that size is unbelievable. 01:29:29 Speaker 2: That always run as fast as they need to to cover whoever they have to cover or get to whoever they have to get to. That's Arvel Ruiz when you watch him. You never see anyone beat him on an angle, beat him to the sideline. He's always fast enough to make whatever play he needs to make. 01:29:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and it's a blessing because you have a second level that you don't have to worry about. And, you know, sometimes... Early in the season, we saw the coverage issues. You don't see those anymore. And, in fact, you see him coming off of his coverage responsibility and then making the play, making the tackle downfield. It's amazing how adept he is at such a young age. 01:30:05 Speaker 2: No question about it. All right, let's go back to the phone to say what's up to our buddy Nas in Pennsylvania. 01:30:09 Speaker 1: Nas, what's going on, man? 01:30:10 Speaker 18: Hey, Nas. 01:30:11 Speaker 35: Hey, what's up, guys? Really appreciate you taking my call. As always, a huge win. Really pumped up for it. 01:30:16 Speaker 12: Just, I have two quick points. 01:30:18 Speaker 35: I just want to throw my quick two cents on the trade deadline. Running back, I'm willing to roll with the guys that we got. I like the guys that we got. I think we can get it done. And I like Greg Jr. I thought he showed some flashes. But my two quick points is, you know, I think, you know, the buff fumble punt with Charlie Jones really bothers me just because you know, you're disciplining Cam Scadaboo for fumbling and all this stuff, and then we're seeing no consequences for Charlie Jones. I know he's a little bit banged up out there, but, you know, that just really bothers me as far as, like, the team aspect goes. I mean, there's no consequences for those mistakes. That could have changed the game right there, just like the New Orleans game. 01:31:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. No, you're right. 01:31:02 Speaker 3: Special teams with him in particular have been an issue over the last few weeks. One was the fumble, one was that muff punt, and he's a better kick returner than that. I mean, he got, I don't know, confused or just his feet were crossed up, so he wasn't balanced when he tried to catch it. I returned punts for a lot of my career, so I know how hard that is. But if you are out of control as a returner, you just got to let it hit. 01:31:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's got to remember, too, Skadaboo at that point was on fumble number four, and it was at a crucial time in the game when as much as a mental mistake as it is a physical mistake. And I think that was, by the way, it wasn't just the fumbles with Skadaboo either. There are other things involved in that. in that decision that was not just fumble. So I understand what you're saying, and we'll see what they end up doing with the return situation last year. But Jones does have a long history in the league of being a guy that can protect the football. 01:31:49 Speaker 1: And be quite honest, they don't have anyone else that can do it right now. No, they really don't. He's the only returner. 01:31:55 Speaker 2: I mean, Javon Holland, they said, was probably the next guy up, and they do not want to use a full-time defender as the punt returner. 01:32:01 Speaker 1: So what else, Nas? 01:32:03 Speaker 20: Hey, fair point. 01:32:04 Speaker 35: And the other point I was going to bring up is I thought the biggest point of the game, was really Jameis Winston coming in when J.J. McCarthy got hurt. 01:32:12 Speaker 1: Agreed. 01:32:13 Speaker 35: He really just settled things down, had the

touchdown drive, and it's like he never skipped a beat. And, you know, I really called out Jameis Winston a few weeks ago, you know, especially when he was a little bit rusty and stuff like that after the Rams game. And I just want to give him his huge props because he's been the ultimate teammate for this team for the past two years. And this game ball, it deserves for him and him alone because he really settled things down when, things were looking really bleak for this team. 01:32:40 Speaker 1: No, you're right. 01:32:40 Speaker 3: The offense was not clicking at all with the first half of this game. And when JJ got hurt, you're worried because you're now thinking, well, what kind of James Winston experience are you going to get? But I think he gave you that perfect backup quarterback experience that you want and that you need. Someone who can stabilize but not be overaggressive, but do just enough, both with his arm and with his legs. Let's go to Frank in Syosset. Frank, what's happening? 01:33:04 Speaker 30: Hey, good evening, guys. Great win. In Philly, on the road again, nothing but improvement. Only a short time ago where we couldn't get a yard, and. 01:33:16 Speaker 13: We didn't have receivers. 01:33:18 Speaker 30: That could hold on to the ball. What a difference. What a difference. But, Tiki, you know, the offense, don't forget, 27 yards to likely, the first series of downs, 18 yards to Mooney. 01:33:32 Speaker 12: They were moving the ball. 01:33:33 Speaker 30: Philly was just getting sacked on the 34-yard. 01:33:37 Speaker 20: Line, you know? 01:33:38 Speaker 1: That was the issue. 01:33:39 Speaker 30: You know what could get pushed under the rug that nobody might talk about? How about the second and 10? Singletary gets four yards, brings us to midfield. And then the next play, Nabors gets 24 yards. And then, you know, McCartney goes to likely. And it brings us down to, what, again, the 24-yard line or something? And he gets sacked again. A loss of 10. and who steps in Nevada. It's unbelievable, man. They're playing all four quarters right down to the last second, guys. 01:34:12 Speaker 1: Right. 01:34:13 Speaker 3: That's the one thing you can't dispute. This Giants team does not skip quarters. They play everyone hard. Now, you could argue the Saints game, they had a quarter in there, a quarter and a half, really, where they were kind of. 01:34:26 Speaker 1: Zombies. 01:34:27 Speaker 3: They were zoned out, and the Saints were able to take advantage of it. But other than that, This team is always playing hard. It's a testament to the character that they have and the coaching that they have. 01:34:36 Speaker 1: Let's go to Harvey and Dick Sills. Harvey, what's happening? 01:34:39 Speaker 5: How are you? 01:34:40 Speaker 36: Apparently, Coach Harbaugh, the psychologist, has settled his kicker. 01:34:44 Speaker 5: I'm glad. 01:34:45 Speaker 36: We talked about that over the last couple of weeks. The other thing is that Desmond Wilson,

the defensive coordinator, I applaud him for recognizing that Reese– When he came in, he's really good at everything in versatility. He's an edge rusher. He sets the edge. He's an offside linebacker. Goes back in coverage. And to let him do all these functions I think is great because some teams wouldn't let him do it. And then the other thing is this running game that supposedly is defective for the Giants. I'm going to ask Tiki and John a question. How can we sort out whether this is the running backs themselves or Or is it the offensive line? Or is it poor use of the fullback, which you know I've talked about for a while? Before you invest top capital, don't you think they should figure out what is the reason that the running backs are not running? Is it the running backs, or is it the whole issue of the line, et cetera, et cetera? 01:35:45 Speaker 3: I think particularly in this game, it was about the offensive line. They were bad today in the run game. They were missing blocks. It was a lot of free runners, and sometimes that's complicated. when you have a team like the Eagles who knew that they could get after the run game. And I don't want to call it predictable. I'd have to, I might have to go back and watch the game, but it felt predictable on their first and second down runs, what they were trying to do. And the Eagles had quick responses from their second level of attacking the holes and making hits in the backfield. I know on the broadcast, Carl and, and Bob were talking about how running backs got to make that guy miss or Pat Ricard's got to make that block. But it was such quick pressure in the backfield in the run game that they really didn't have a chance to get going. And Devin Singletary was dead before plays could go. I think also, and John and I talked about this at halftime, it felt like they were getting a little bit full of themselves and what they could pull in their run game. We talked last week or two weeks ago how, They had so many different schemes in their run game, and they tried it a little bit too much. Sometimes when you're struggling, just do what you're good at. Don't overthink it. And I think they overthought it a little bit in this game, and it ended up hurting them. 01:36:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and I think I'm with you. 01:37:02 Speaker 2: I just think there was so much penetration in this game, and we got other calls. I had a call about moving for a running back, and I was going to say this before, after one of the other calls, before we went to break, and it slipped my mind. 01:37:13 Speaker 1: If you insert running back X into this game today... Might, instead. 01:37:17 Speaker 2: Of being, you know, 16 carries for 30 yards, he's 16 carries for 42 yards. Sure, maybe, but I don't think it makes that big of a difference. 01:37:24 Speaker 1: No, it didn't. They didn't play well in the run game. And that was everybody. All right, let's take another timeout. Our final break. We'll come back. We'll take you to around 625, 630. 01:37:31 Speaker 2: We'll take your calls until Talking Giants comes your way with Sean Marash and Justin Penick right here on The Fan. 01:37:37 Speaker 1: Giants defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 19-11. They're now 5-2-1. 01:37:42 Speaker 6: You're listening to Earth Treasures Fine Jewelers Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 01:37:50 Speaker 23: This is Arville Reese, and you're listening to Giants Football on the Fan, WFAN and WFAN-FM New York. 01:37:58 Speaker 2: Back here on Earth Treasures, find Jewelers, Giants, Extra Point. We got six people on the line. I'm going to try to get to all 60 of them before we say goodbye. Leading into Talking Giants with Sean Mirage and Justin Penick right here on the fan. Back here on Earth Treasures, find Jewelers, Giants, Extra Point. Dom in New Rochelle, you're up next. I'll take you to the order in which you got in. Dom, what's going on? 01:38:15 Speaker 12: Hey, what's up, guys? 01:38:16 Speaker 13: Yeah, big win, big win. 01:38:19 Speaker 10: I got a couple points. Obviously, Jameis Winston coming in was so key. And the biggest play of the game, in my point of view, was the third and 15 to Malachi Fields. He kind of just sustained that whole drive. And it was huge. He's been a great teammate, like the previous caller, Nas, said. And I actually questioned... if he should have stood in the game. I thought maybe he could have played the hot hand there. 01:38:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, so did we, Don. 01:38:44 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, me and Tiki had that same exact conversation watching the game in the second half. 01:38:49 Speaker 1: We did. 01:38:49 Speaker 3: And it's interesting because it almost felt like Jameis Winston, by kind of opening things up a little bit, made it somewhat easier for J.J. McCarthy when he did come back into the game. 01:38:58 Speaker 1: And on the running game, too, by the way. 01:38:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was more space, and obviously he picked up a big first down with his legs. But Jameis served the role that a good backup is supposed to do. Not make mistakes, get your team into scoring position, and get a touchdown. 01:39:10 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely. And my other thing, too, on the trade deadline with a running back, like the previous call said, too, I kind of question you want to use all that capital. I mean, the interior of this offensive line was dominated today. 01:39:26 Speaker 22: Yeah. 01:39:26 Speaker 10: And, I mean, I'll take Jonathan Taylor, but. 01:39:29 Speaker 13: Not for a first-round pick. 01:39:30 Speaker 10: So maybe there's some other guys who can get in here at the trade deadline, but you've got to kind of question if it's maybe the interior offensive line not doing their part, because I don't think any running back could have ran back in today. 01:39:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not today. 01:39:42 Speaker 3: The issue was the offensive line missing blocks and just being confused on assignments, and everything felt

dead before it ever got a chance. The other thing, and this kind of evened itself out as the game went on, but it felt like... the Giants were trying to play to Devin Singletary's strengths as a smaller back and played a lot of 11 personnel earlier in this game, and we all remember from a couple weeks ago, they played heavy a lot, 12 personnel, two tight ends on the field, sometimes, you know, two with 22 personnel, and they ultimately ended up getting back to that, and maybe that's why the run game started to pick up a little bit in the second half, but they got to have an identity in the run game. 01:40:21 Speaker 1: And I think they struggle with it seemingly week to week. 01:40:23 Speaker 2: And next gen has some of their numbers out here. Tiki, Andrew Thomas, according to them. And again, allowed five pressures in this game. One of them was quick. Four from Runyon. 01:40:34 Speaker 1: One of them was quick. Three from Maui Noah. One of them was quick. 01:40:36 Speaker 2: So, That's where most of the pressures came from, and Patrick Ricard got charged for two as well over the course of the game. So just some of the advanced numbers that are rolling, and I'll try to scroll through some of these as we go here. All right, let's go to Greg and Astoria. Greg, what's going on, man? 01:40:51 Speaker 34: Hey, what up, man? How's it going? 01:40:52 Speaker 9: All's good. We're good. 01:40:54 Speaker 34: We need an O-line and a running back ASAP. This is a disaster, you know? 01:41:02 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a disaster. 01:41:03 Speaker 2: Greg, we have seen what a disaster looks like here, and it looks a lot worse than this. 01:41:09 Speaker 1: Because they're winning games. 01:41:10 Speaker 34: We need O running. There's no running back on our team that could run right now. Badaboo, injury prone. Tracy, not good. I think it's time for a home make-up. But we should do it after this season. Not waste all our draft capital because we need it for O-line defense. and for running back and for defensive tackle help. 01:41:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think ultimately as this team looks for upgrades at the trade deadline and they look for teams that are faltering early in the season and they're looking to just move on to next year, you're going to get opportunities like that. The challenge is what's it going to cost you? We've talked about this a lot. And I don't know if there's a running back other than Jonathan Taylor, that's going to significantly, maybe marginally, but not significantly change and improve the running back room. And if that's the case, then it's not a move you want to make. I think you kind of take your chances with Cam Scadaboo. I understand that he's been an injury issue, obviously his rookie season with a broken ankle, the hamstring now. But when he's healthy and he's running hard, he's a really good player. And I think his consistency is only going to happen the more carries he gets and the more reps he gets with the original offensive line. 01:42:29 Speaker 1: All right, pressures for. 01:42:30 Speaker 2: The Giants on defense, Tiki. Kayvon Thibodeau leading the way with six. Again, these are according to NextGenStats. DJ Rita with five. We know Alvaro Ruiz had four. Three of those turned into sacks. Four for Darius Alexander, two for Shelby Harris, and then two apiece for Smoot, McFadden, Drew Phillips, and Pinnock, and Trace Ford had a pressure apiece. Might be the first game all year. They don't have Abdul Carter for one pressure in this game. 01:42:52 Speaker 12: Interesting. 01:42:52 Speaker 1: I wonder if he was up against Mailata for most of this game. Yeah, he probably was. I'm curious what that was. He probably was. Probably. I would think that's probably true. Richie in Queens. What's up, Rich? 01:43:00 Speaker 13: You know, guys, an ugly win, a game that we would lose, and you know that, Zeke. 01:43:04 Speaker 10: Yep. 01:43:04 Speaker 13: You know, and Jameis is what Jameis is. He's a great, you know, you've got a great guy in baseball that comes off the bench and plays 35 times a year, and he hits in key spots. You say, there's a guy that can hit 400, but he's limited. And Jameis, his mentality is to come off the bench. And he is terrific at it, one of the best. Is he a guy that's going to be there for all game? He's proven at times, no, he's going to make mistakes. 01:43:26 Speaker 4: Right. 01:43:26 Speaker 13: But his mentality is so tough in that period. I give him all the credit in the world, guys. And, you know, real quick, too, you mentioned neighbors. Yeah, he was happy in the locker room. But even the announcers, his body language is horrendous. And I know he wants to play hard. But, you know, on the field, he just looked unhappy. And a couple of positives, and I want to ask you this real quick, Cheek. The other thing, too, John, how great would it have been if Hyatt somehow catches that ball? 01:43:53 Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. Look, Rich, Rich, that was a really tough catch. That was an overthrow. That wasn't a drop. 01:43:59 Speaker 9: No, no, no. 01:44:00 Speaker 13: I'm not blaming him. 01:44:01 Speaker 1: Okay, I got you. 01:44:02 Speaker 12: I got you. 01:44:03 Speaker 13: Give him something that he can catch. 01:44:04 Speaker 5: No, you're right. 01:44:05 Speaker 13: He's happy to talk out of town. 01:44:06 Speaker 4: No, you're right. 01:44:07 Speaker 13: And, Cheek, I got to ask you this. On a blitz... You're not the one with Banks. If you know, and this has bothered me for years, if you know it's a full blitz and he has no time to see the middle of the field, how does somebody get behind the defensive back? 01:44:22 Speaker 1: Explain that to me. 01:44:23 Speaker 3: I think I got to rewatch that play. I think Taye Banks probably tried to jump him immediately, and that's why he was in the trail position the whole time because almost every other play after that, he was on top of the defender, and that's why he made not so many plays,

but that play in particular, I don't think he expected the go-route, and they. 01:44:42 Speaker 1: Took advantage of it. It was really the only big. 01:44:44 Speaker 3: Play other than the Joe Milton scrambles, which were 64 yards in total. But other than that, they didn't do much against this giant secondary. He took some shots, but they were always well defended. A couple of underneath throws into zone, 15, 17 yards to– who was the wide receiver? 01:45:01 Speaker 1: Makai Lemon. Makai Lemon. Other than that, the Giants did a really good job in coverage. 01:45:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, according to NextGen, 80% zone coverage, 20% man coverage in this game for the Giants, but 30% press. So even when they were in zone, they were playing some press in this game, which is what you like to see. Their blitz rate, according to NextGen, Tiki, just 31%, but a 37% pressure rate. So that's what you want to see. You want to see the lower blitz rate, but the higher pressure rate. So definitely a better job of the Giants getting to Joe Milton. over the course of this game, who did not get the ball out of his hands. 01:45:29 Speaker 3: Right, and part of that is just on the ineffectiveness of the Eagles' offensive line. It's been a disaster with all the injuries and retirements and things of that nature. They're playing with basically a different unit every week. 01:45:39 Speaker 1: It feels like. 01:45:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his average time to throw is also 3.12 seconds, which, you know, for young players, that's what you're going to get, especially ones that run around, and that's very high for Joe Milton. 01:45:47 Speaker 1: Let's go to Steve in Rockland. Steve, what's up? 01:45:49 Speaker 22: Well, guys, you know that when Reese hit Milton on that first sack, Yeah. It reminded me instantly, and I wonder if Carl was thinking, you guys, I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember this, but the Giants were playing Dallas. Danny White was the quarterback. 01:46:12 Speaker 1: We know the play. 01:46:14 Speaker 22: Oh, and I looked at the other people in the room and I said, my goodness, I think that sack came from the grassy knoll. 01:46:22 Speaker 11: I mean. 01:46:23 Speaker 22: That is exactly how I felt. And it forever became the grassy knoll sack. And Carl really reacted because I was listening. It was just one of these things. I'm listening on the radio. Anyway, that's the first thing. And the second thing is I got to tell you from the jump, I'm not going to say it was skip. I took a wait-and-see approach. with Harbaugh, you know, with the coach. And I was thinking, man, either this is really, you know, going to be transfer, you know, it's just going to be transformational or we're just, it's not. And I have to say the difference between this year and the last couple of years and the last couple of years in this year, the Giants are inventing ways to win instead of inventing ways to lose. 01:47:17 Speaker 1: No, you're right. No, Steve, look, you're right. Appreciate the call. And that's the difference. 01:47:20 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:47:21 Speaker 2: Look, and I don't think there's a magic switch in a formula to a two either way, but this can flip back the other way very quickly. You've seen it, you know, just historically teams that win a bunch of wars, one score games, one year, the next year, it usually goes the other way. That's just kind of how it goes in the NFL. But at least for now, it's been going the right way for the giants. Let's go to Tony and Ridgefield. 01:47:38 Speaker 1: Park, Tony. 01:47:40 Speaker 12: Hey, T.T., I just want to ask you a question. The play that J.J. 01:47:43 Speaker 16: Got hurt on, where do you think that– did he audible at the line, or was that sent in from the bench? 01:47:48 Speaker 3: No, I think it was designed to be that way, but it was one of those– That. 01:47:52 Speaker 16: Was a crazy call. 01:47:53 Speaker 12: How can you do that when he's your guy? 01:47:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're worried. 01:47:59 Speaker 1: Actually– You're worried about him getting hurt. 01:48:00 Speaker 12: That was crazy. 01:48:01 Speaker 3: John and I were talking off air how– crazy it was when he got hurt because we didn't know if he was going to come back or not. Who was the emergency third string quarterback? Because I don't think Jake Hayner is on the team anymore. 01:48:13 Speaker 2: And Braxton Berrios isn't here anymore. He was the emergency third. 01:48:16 Speaker 3: So if he doesn't come back and Jameis somehow is knocked out of this game, what happens? 01:48:21 Speaker 1: That's how you take a. 01:48:22 Speaker 3: Game that you're winning and turn it into a loss. 01:48:24 Speaker 1: I'll try to find that out this week. Yeah, because it was. 01:48:27 Speaker 3: An interesting gamble that the Giants had, obviously, with only two quarterbacks up. But ultimately it panned out and it worked out. 01:48:35 Speaker 1: And J.J. McCarthy turned out to be fine. Paul in Hamilton. What's up, Paul? 01:48:40 Speaker 16: Gentlemen, great to be on tonight. I'm a longtime Giants fan. I was actually out to playoff game in 1958. I was there when the Giants lost to the Baltimore Coats in overtime, probably the first NFL game of all time. But anyway, I'm calling because although I'm thankful for our record today, I thought today was a horrible game. I don't know how you find anything positive today. the Eagles are the worst team in football. 01:49:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've lost seven in a row now. Seven in a row. No, hey, look, hey, look, hey, look, Paul, Paul, real quick, you're right. 01:49:16 Speaker 2: There was a lot not to like, but always better to have a lot not to like in a game that you won than in a game that you lost. 01:49:23 Speaker 1: And I think you have to be happy with the defense, right? The defense played really well in this game. 01:49:28 Speaker 16: No, no, no, I'm not disagreeing with you, but they played a horrible team. If the defense didn't play well

today, then we would have really been in trouble because... They have nothing. 01:49:40 Speaker 4: Nothing. 01:49:40 Speaker 16: So to find anything positive in this game, I can't do it, and I'm worried about the future because this was bad. 01:49:50 Speaker 3: Maybe the short-term future you're a little bit worried about. The offense didn't click like we thought it would after the bye week. 01:49:55 Speaker 1: If you want to have concerns about the offense with McCarthy, I understand that. 01:49:59 Speaker 3: No, the jury's still out. I mean, I think it always had to be. I know he looked really good against the Houston Texans, but that's one game. And for young players, there's just inconsistency, especially when your import is as high as it is playing quarterback. And he struggled a little bit in this game and ultimately had to be bailed out by a great defensive effort. And let's be fair to Jameis Winston coming off the bench and when he got hurt and leading the drive that got them a touchdown that was critical to winning. 01:50:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hayer was put back to the practice squad this week. He just wasn't elevated to the emergency third stringer today. 01:50:30 Speaker 34: Right. 01:50:30 Speaker 1: That's worse. So you're right. 01:50:31 Speaker 2: He was not available today for the New York football Giants. All right, let's wrap things up on the phones with Richard of Manhattan. Richard, how are you, pal? 01:50:39 Speaker 11: Hi, John. Tiki, I'm going to be critical of both coaches' decisions at the end of the game. Start with Suriano. Why do you go for the onside kick? You have three timeouts. No idea. In all my 65 years of football, they never did that. 01:50:55 Speaker 1: We said the same thing. 01:50:56 Speaker 11: And the onside rules were easier back then. And it wasn't that they weren't desperate. They had three timeouts. Kick it away and then let the cards fall where they may. The Giants got 30 yards out of that. They were lucky. That's it. Now, I'm not happy with Harbaugh. Why did he just run the ball three times? I would have been interested if Jalen Hurts was back there. Harbaugh was bailed out by the kicker that kicked it out at the five-yard line. But I'll tell you this, Bill Parcells and Belichick, if you can get one first down and the game is over. Now, if you're going to tell me it was because Harbaugh knew that Milton wouldn't have beaten him, and he wouldn't go 70 yards. Okay, that's fair. But the two most famous games in football, the guy I just mentioned, the 58 playoff, if it didn't get first down, fourth and one, they'd let Johnny Unitas come back and tie it. The tuck game, Oakland didn't go for the first down, fourth and one. They let Brady come back, tie the game in overtime. You can put a team away, you put them away. Why Hoboff fell on the ball three times? There was no imagination. He didn't care about getting the first down. The only explanation, and if that's true, he didn't think Milton could beat him. But he did get bailed out by kicking the ball to the five-yard line. Because if that ball goes to the 25 or 30, it's a whole different ballgame. And they trapped a couple of passes on Milton, too. Milton could have done it. And that kid that the ball went, he would have still been running. They just missed that connection there. I'm telling you, not a good decision, Harbaugh, mate. And Soriano should be fine. Just like the Ohio State coach last week when he went for it for the two points. when they were down by 10 or 8 or whatever it was. 01:52:34 Speaker 1: No, you're right, Rich. We appreciate your call, man. 01:52:37 Speaker 3: It's fired up, man. It is fired up. Now, I agree with you on the Sirianni. I don't understand the onside kick at that point. We said the same thing here. You're likely going to get the Giants doing the same thing, running the football. If they were, now, the John Harbaugh decision or Matt Nagy decision on second down, I would have thrown the ball. I would have found an easy completion that maybe gets you a first down. 01:52:56 Speaker 1: I was okay just running it. 01:52:57 Speaker 3: But once you're in third down– and the clock is still running, you have to run the football. 01:53:02 Speaker 2: Usually, Tiki, I'm in favor of being aggressive in those situations because I think, look, try to finish the game with the ball in your hands. 01:53:08 Speaker 1: The reality is, though, what Richard said. That eagle offense. 01:53:11 Speaker 3: He believed that Joe Milton could not. take them a length of the field and go score a touchdown, but then also get the two point conversion. 01:53:18 Speaker 1: It was so inept. 01:53:20 Speaker 22: Yeah. 01:53:20 Speaker 1: He was inept for most of this game. 01:53:22 Speaker 2: I mean, they couldn't get a first down for most of this game. So because of that, and I think Richard answered his own question in his call, he had his criticism and then he gave the reason for the criticism, which I think was valid. Um, that I just think with Joe Milton as a quarterback, it just didn't make a whole lot of sense. All right, Tiki, final thoughts, quick turnaround. Now Thursday against the commanders, these two teams tied a few weeks ago. 01:53:42 Speaker 1: Um, Commanders coming off a loss. What do you think? I mean, look, they played well against the Rams. The commanders did. They ended up losing. 01:53:49 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels took a sack on their last drive. It ultimately sealed the win for the Rams. But the commanders aren't going to quit. 01:53:56 Speaker 1: They're not going to pack this thing in. They're not like the Eagles, who have now lost seven games in a row. 01:54:02 Speaker 3: They had two wins to start the season. One of them was against the Titans, and it was barely. They won the first game by two points as well. So the Eagles are a struggling team, and obviously things are changing over. The commanders aren't necessarily in that same boat. So this is a huge win, a huge game at home that the Giants have to find a way to get because if they do, it really puts them in control for the division. 01:54:24 Speaker 1: But it's a short week. 01:54:25 Speaker 3: I was fortunate I never had to play on short weeks, but it's a tough grind. 01:54:29 Speaker 1: You never had a Thanksgiving game? 01:54:30 Speaker 3: Never had a Thanksgiving game, but it's a tough grind just on your body. Football is a physical game. It's a tough grind to turn around. have an off day tomorrow, and then basically you're in travel mode by day two on Tuesday. So it's going to be a tough one for the Giants to get back ready for, but I believe. that this coaching staff will have them prepared. 01:54:50 Speaker 1: Tiki and Evan tomorrow at 10, and then we'll see you on Thursday night, Tiki. 01:54:52 Speaker 27: No doubt. 01:54:53 Speaker 1: All right. 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