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Welcome to Gale Learn Scripture, where leadership needs to learn and real conversations drive real impact.
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I'm Ben Weggins, Executive Director of Gale.
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Join us as we go beyond the headlines with Georgia's top education leaders.
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Let's elevate the conversation.
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Welcome back, Paige family, to another exciting episode of Gail Unscripted.
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We've got two fantastic guests today to talk to us about some of the exciting things that Paige has got going on.
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So we've got Craig and Michael here with us.
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So why don't we start off with Craig?
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Just introduce yourself to any of our new members that may not know who Craig Harper is, and then we'll move on to Michael.
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Sure.
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Thank you, Ben.
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So nice to be with you all today.
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My name is Craig Harper.
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I'm the executive director for Page, the Professional Association of Georgia Educators.
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I've been in this role since about 2018 and with Page since a little bit before that.
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And of course, we are uh a membership association for Georgia Educators.
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We're solely focused on uh the educators here in the state of Georgia, and we're 94,000 members strong as we go into this school year and excited about all the things that we've got to offer our members and support that we provide for educators all over our state.
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Perfect.
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Michael, tell them who you are.
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Yeah, my name is Michael Michael Cabido here.
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Uh I was your 2023 Georgia Teacher of the Year, and I'm currently working in my home district of the Bartow County School System in Northwest Georgia.
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Uh, but I'm really excited to be here with Paige and with you all in Gail to talk a little bit about the new teacher academy.
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And for me, I've been a member of Page since my career started just a couple minutes ago in 2015 as a young teacher.
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And uh I've been working with Page for the last couple of years by participating in their future Georgia Educators Days, trying to inspire the next generation of teachers.
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But uh really excited to get started with this new project that hopefully we get a chance to talk about today.
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Perfect.
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Can't wait to hear about it.
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And I too, longtime member of Page, and now as a retiree, I'm a lifetime member of Page.
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And um, Craig, before we get started, I uh these things are just popping up in my memory.
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Um when I was a young teacher, I received the Page Scholarship.
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Uh that just popped into my mind like in the in the late 90s.
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Um, and then when I was at Pelham High School, I had the opportunity to do some great professional learning with Page, with the uh I think the first thing was called the uh Page High School Redesign Initiative.
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Um and then I'm trying to remember what the other one was called, but we'd bring our leadership teams with us.
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I think it was a two-year cohort.
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But anyway, um Page always does a fantastic job when it comes to professional learning.
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Um, and what I really loved about um all of the Page PL, besides the quality uh in the in the meeting of colleagues across the state, was Page always had a fantastic price for the professional learning.
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Why don't you talk about that before we move too far into the new teacher academy?
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Well, it's it's a price that's hard to refuse.
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So it's uh it's free to our members, and that includes taking care of a substitute teacher if you need one to cover your classroom while you're participating in our activities, uh travel stipends, accommodations if necessary, and we continue to do that to this day.
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Um, I don't know that in our history if we have ever charged uh for any of the professional learning that we sponsor, and so it's always been a privilege because of the strength of our association that we've been able to provide that to our members.
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And and you mentioning some of the other things that you've you've done with us with scholarships, it's it's it's an opportunity to remind people that page is a whole lot more than what what most people think of with an association, which is the legal support that we provide, which is of course an incredibly uh meaningful uh benefit and something that that teachers should uh should have.
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But we also do grants, we do scholarships, we do a lot of the professional learning.
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Um, and this opportunity that we have that my explanation and I are going to talk about is really the the the rebirth of something that happened back in that era when you might have been going through Principal's Academy or high school redesign, and it's something that we really felt like we needed to bring back to support our new teachers in Georgia so that they will continue in the profession for for an entire career, as you did and as I'm sure Michael hopes to do as well.
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Yeah, perfect.
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Well, let's jump right
into it.
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Tell us what the Page New Teacher Academy is.
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Michael does such a great job with this, and he's our facilitator.
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So uh I'm sure I'm sure your your uh listeners would love to hear from Michael.
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Yeah, we are really excited about this new teacher academy.
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And um, if you're interested in like the TLDR version of what this program is about, the too long didn't read version, we're trying to find those young superstar teachers and give them the tools they need to have a fantastic career as teacher leaders.
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So this isn't for your first year, I'm just into the classroom teacher.
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This is for someone that's completed their first, second, or third year of teaching that's looking to um fill in some of the gaps, find the mentorship, find the network from other uh young teachers or early career teachers around the state, and um propel themselves into a future of changing lives for students and for themselves as professionals.
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Uh like we think about Page as a great organization that protects its teachers and um supports them as professionals, but it's also about progressing our teachers too.
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So with this particular program, we'll have four in-person sessions that are going to be very interactive, meeting our our teachers where they are, talking about things as fundamental as how do we reflect on the foundational things we do in our classrooms and strengthen them so that our students have no questions about the educational experience they're getting.
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We'll have a chance to learn about how do I advocate for my students and my community as teacher leaders and those ambassadors for student learning.
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How do we figure out how this career can continue to grow and blossom as teachers?
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And how do I make sure that my pedagogic strategies are at the highest level possible?
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And we're gonna have lots of different times and places where we do this.
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One thing that we're really excited about is bringing these teachers to uh the Ron Clark Academy to have a private tour experience of what they do at the Ron Clark Academy.
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And for listeners that have been, you know about the magic of that place.
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And those of you that have not been, you've heard about the magic of that place.
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Uh but the fact that we're gonna have a more intimate experience at the Ron Clark Academy with Ron and his staff to learn about what they do and more importantly, how they deliver instruction, assess instruction and learning, and build students throughout their programming is something that our our teachers in the new teacher academy will have bounds of growth from.
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So it's not just about getting together and talking about.
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So that's a big part of it.
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Um it's about getting to hear from master educators, not only from our state, but also from around the country that are going to come in and support these uh new teachers.
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Um a couple other things that will be interesting is we'll have those four in-person sessions that we talked about, all paper-by-page, by the way.
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So that price tag is still$3.99.
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Um, but we'll also have teachers of the year from not just Georgia, but from other states that will be coming in to support these teachers.
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And we'll have um monthly check-ins with uh mentors from all across our state that are there on call because we've all been there, right?
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In those early years of our career where it's like, I need someone to ask, and I don't want to ask my teammates here in my building.
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Maybe it's because I'm a little bit nervous about it, or um, you're looking for a different perspective.
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Well, we're we're gonna provide that type of support too.
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So um again, TLDR is four in-person sessions, engagement from master educators, on-call access, and a network that you can carry for the next 30 years of your career.
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Craig, was that okay?
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That's right.
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And you can see why I wanted Michael to talk about that because he brings the enthusiasm and and the background.
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So having been teacher of the year at the state level and then participating at the national level and meeting people from all over the country, he's been exposed to so much great uh uh professional learning and support.
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And and here's how folks are doing in other in other states, and Georgia's got an extremely strong program as we know based on the last few years of our representation at the national level.
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And we've got access through our great relationship with our Teacher of the Year program to bring in people like Michael, like Rachel Kinsall, or others that have been uh representing our state, and we think it's gonna make a big impression and a lot of positive difference for those teachers that are brand new in the career that can say, you know, six years, ten years, twelve, where whenever it may be, I can be in that place as well because I'm gonna do a great job in the classroom serving my kids and my community.
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Um, so we're excited about Michael, Michael leading this program.
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And the reason this came about is
because since I've been at Page, I kept hearing about uh a teacher academy that Paige offered back in the in the early 2006, 2007 era, and it ran for a number of years.
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And we ended up uh developing a lot of just great teacher leaders through that program then, including some people that served on our board um or on our legislative committee or have continued to be involved in it with us.
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And one of those people is Nick Zomer, who's an assistant principal in a metro district right now, was in the very first teacher academy and has has a great story about how that came about.
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So he's going to be supporting this work as well.
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He ended up being on our board, it was our president and now uh serves as a foundation trustee.
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And so having that perspective from somebody that was that went through this then and has been advising us on what made a difference in him and what kept him in the profession.
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Um what encouraged him is helping us with the design of this program and what we're gonna do.
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So we also know that that new teachers are now probably more than ever are facing so many uh stressors in the classroom and and the level of burnout that happens, and and the world is just different than it was in 2007 uh because of social media, because of uh the pandemic that we went through and so many other different pressures about curriculum and just the mental health and well-being of students and and teachers themselves.
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So we thought this would just be a great opportunity to bring something back that was highly successful before before, but update it for where our new teachers are right now, and then having this partnership.
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We got to know Michael during his term as Teacher of the Year and the presentations to those future Georgia educators.
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We know he connects extremely uh well and engages uh younger teachers really well, and he just seemed like the perfect fit for this.
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And so when I approached him about it, he he agreed and thought it would be a really nice opportunity.
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And his background, having been not just teacher of the year, but working with the DOE, doing some things with the policy fellowship, he's been in front of the legislature, he's been in front of so many different uh aspects of educational uh leadership in our state and and what he's been exposed to nationally, that we just know he's gonna bring that voice to these new uh these newer teachers, and it's just gonna be a huge encouragement to them.
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Yeah, he's a great choice.
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I know he's gonna do something fantastic, and I think you're right.
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I think that uh younger generation is going to be very, very attracted to Michael and his energy, and his uh he's just got a very contagious professionalism about him.
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The times I hear him speak, even on this podcast, he just exudes confidence and passion, and I think he represents everything that's great with public teachers across our state.
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Uh talk to us a little bit.
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Michael mentioned it's gonna be four hour sessions.
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Um is it a year-long cohort?
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When does that start?
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Is it every other month?
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Um, where where are the sessions going to be located?
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Give us give us some little highlights on that.
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Uh yeah, great questions there.
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And first let me say thank you for all of the roses you just presented me, both of you.
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Very kind.
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I'm blushing a little bit, but we'll move on.
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Um, yeah, so this is a year-long experience essentially for our our um new teachers.
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I want to make sure we reiterate a couple of points here.
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It's new to the profession, so I can be a second career for five-year-old person that worked in the bank and I've got it's not just about being um fresh out of a traditional program.
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We're inviting all of these teachers.
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And I also want to make one other point of this is not just for, this is not for first year in the classroom.
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This is after I've completed one, two, or three.
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And a big reason for that is we all know that districts give uh a lot of support for that first year.
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And they say, have a great 29 years.
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And the George Department of Education is doing a great job of encouraging districts to level up that and extend that support.
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Uh but we're if you're an education leader and you're in the school system and you're thinking, man, white blank and blank were fantastic in their first year.
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Uh how do we make sure they are ready to sprint for the rest of this marathon?
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This is a great way to do that.
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So uh back to your original question though.
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Uh yeah, we'll have four or four sessions.
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The first one will be at the end of September, we'll just do another one later in that semester, or we'll do one in the beginning of 2027, and then we'll close out before testing starts in the spring.
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So we've got four days, and we try to
be super thoughtful about the pacing of the school year.
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Um yes, there will be a couple of days where you'll you'll have instruction, but we try to make sure it wasn't in a testing window, it wasn't during those blackout dates for superintendents and principals to have to consider.
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Um, and at the conclusion of the time in this cohort, uh, while you'll move your tassel over and move on to the next thing, uh, the goal for this to make sure that all of our people are continuously plugged into the professional learning opportunities that page has to offer.
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So you might be completing your new teacher academy and rolling straight into whatever comes next for you.
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And that's part of the programming, right?
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Like we all know it's like we're an institution that's built around the learning.
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And the good thing about it is kids aren't the only ones that get to do it.
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We all do.
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So while it's a year long on paper, it's a lifetime in reality.
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Craig?
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Yeah, the cool thing about this is we're designing it so that uh we're gonna have an evening event on the first day we, you know, each first day we come together, hopefully enough time for anybody wherever they may be coming from can get to Atlanta.
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And we'll have a dinner uh event.
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Um kind of relaxed, informal dinner, but we'll have uh some form of a keynote or a presenter who's gonna talk to them about things that will impact them or just be inspirational or encouraging.
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Um so it really kind of sets the tone for what's gonna happen the next day.
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Then the next day they'll we'll do a lot of interactive and engaging work around whatever the topic is for that session, and it will also involve uh folks like Michael or others that will be coming in to to uh support that that learning for the day.
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And so we we really want them to have um a real depth of learning about things that are going to make their careers uh better and develop their leadership, but also just to network with other people and get to know people from around the state.
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I know when I in my educational career, the more opportunities I had to go to meetings at the state level and interact with people in jobs like mine, um, the more I was able to do uh in my own role in my district.
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And I had people I could call on whenever I ran into uh a challenge or something I just hadn't faced before.
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So we really want this this community of learners to be a support network for each other, and then that other layer of mentors of people in
that and know how to how to uh walk you through it.
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Um and so we think it's just gonna be a huge benefit.
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So Nick Zomer, I mentioned earlier, one of the things that he has said that has gone continued through his career, what he remembers the most, it wasn't the the individual learning sessions that they went through.
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It was the sitting around in a hotel lobby or at a venue or something after they had done the learning and just talking with each other and supporting one another and those casual conversations that have really deep meaning to you later when you're back in your classroom.
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And you know, you need that moment of inspiration, a moment of encouragement, or you know, other people have been through this and they're continuing to thrive.
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Um, all those things we think are gonna make a just a tremendous profound impact on our participants that we hope to support, as Michael has said a couple times, you know, through year 30.
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So this is just a start, and we're excited that we're gonna be able to um kind of kind of boost that early career experience so that they've got the energy and enthusiasm to continue.
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It's great.
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I think it's uh very important.
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Michael spoke about it a little bit.
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We're in education, it's we're supposed to be about learning.
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And uh a lot of times we we do just focus on the student learning and we forget sometimes how important the professional learning is for our uh teachers and our staff and our administrators too.
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But um, you know, the private sector figured this out years ago.
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And uh I think uh the behoove all of us in public education to to be very intentional about making sure we're giving our teachers these kind of opportunities.
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I know we're we're thinking about the the four days they're gonna be out of the building, but they're gonna have so much poured into them and the connections that you talk about and the knowledge that's gonna come back and it's going to they're gonna be able to replace so exponentially for years to come.
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So talk to us a little bit.
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Um, is this year's cohort already full?
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Um if I'm listening to this right now and I've I'm a principal and I've got a I think I've got a teacher that sounds just like what Michael described.
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Is it too late for this year?
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Do I need to be thinking about them for next year?
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Talk to us about the cohort a little bit.
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Is it um is the application still
open or is it closed?
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Probably gonna be a little bit of both.
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So we're we're in the application phase right now and it's not full.
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Um, we've got another week or so, and we may end up extending that a little bit.
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And we knew it would be tough.
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Um we got till September 28th, and you know, we don't have to have those members selected.
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Um, they need to be selected early enough to know that they're coming.
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Um, but we want to do a thoughtful process of bringing in this first cohort.
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And the difficulty is, you know, they've got to get principal's approval that you know, the school year just started, and right now they're just trying to get their class rosters and schedules and and everything, you know, leveled out.
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So we knew it was gonna be a little bit of a uh a heavy um task for people to get this done because they've got to go through a it's a brief, not too in-depth, but a brief application um process, plus get that approval that they're gonna be able to come for the four days.
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They've got to look at their own schedules and what's going on in their life and other activities.
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So um we're not where we would like to be at the moment for uh registration, but we think we'll get there uh soon.
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So this is depending on when this comes out, there they might still want to uh check that out and they go to pageink.org on our website and find the new teacher academy link, and we'll send that link to you so you can upload it with this with this episode.
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But this is as much as anything to get some enthusiasm for this possibility and maybe thinking about next year.
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You know, somebody that maybe they just hired this year that's getting started, and they can watch them this year and say, you know what, I need to get them in the new teacher academy next year.
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Um, so we're we're we know that we'll be able to um recruit some great teachers to to come in and and fill out this first group.
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But I think the word of mouth, once we once we get into the uh academy and people start talking about it uh in their district, that we'll we're you know, we'll be in a stronger position next year.
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Perfect.
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Talk to us a little bit about who who's leading this.
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We know Michael's heavily involved.
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Uh there are other people that'll be working side by side with him.
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You talked about you're bringing in some speakers and things like that.
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But just talk about maybe the the leadership of who all will be um talking or some things they'll hear and what will these new teachers learn?
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What are y'all hoping that when the new teacher academy is over, what are some things that you're confident of or hoping that they'll learn and get out of this to take back to their home districts?
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Yeah, we've already got on the agenda some really high quality um keynote speakers that'll be coming in, again, not just from around our state, but from around the country to kind of set the table for what the next day will look like.
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So we've got some high-level talent coming in.
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I'm gonna kind of keep some of those names embargoed for now, but we're really excited about um some folks that people in Georgia maybe don't always get to hear from, just because we have some ranging connections and some cool theming that we're gonna pull on for for that.
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But some other things that we're gonna be like more uh constantly engaging with is this idea of um homeroom mentors.
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So as we get these new teachers to come in, we're also gonna bring on some of our teacher of the years and top 10 teacher of the year finalists to come and be um mentors for groups of eight to 10 new teachers.
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And that's that's gonna kind of be based around what is my background?
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What was my pathway to profession?
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What do I teach?
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Where do I teach?
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What kind of students do I have the opportunity to serve every day?
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And we've got um a lot of people that are really, really interested in being mentors that um like my my Facebook messenger is blowing up, my email is blowing up, my Instagram DMs are blowing up of hey, I heard you're doing this.
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How do I get involved?
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So we have a plethora of people that are just Waiting to serve and pour in.
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And we're going to build that team based off of who applies and who gets accepted, to be honest with you.
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This is the unique thing about this is we're not selling a book.
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We're not selling a curriculum.
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We're not selling any of that.
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We're trying to make sure that we meet the teachers where they are and get them where they hope to be.
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So, like, are there things that are curricular?
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Absolutely.
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It's very thoughtful in that way.
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The first session is about the foundations as educators.
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What are we bringing on the first
day, first week, first month of school?
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How do I reflect on the things I've got in place and strengthen it for next time?
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How do I set up great parent communication so that I don't have any questions when progress reports and report cards come on?
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Like that's section one.
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Section two is about instruction and impact.
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We're going to go and talk about how do I make my classroom instructionally effective every day.
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And we're going to watch people at the Ron Clark Academy do it in real time, maybe.
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The third session is going to be talking about advocacy and influence, not in a not in a political way, but in a way that I know that this student needs this.
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How do I make sure they get the supports that they need?
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I know that my colleagues need this.
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How do I make sure they get the supports they need?
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I know that this new legislation is coming down.
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How do we implement this and not be scared of this as educators?
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And then our fourth session is going to be about what comes next.
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What have I learned?
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What have I gathered from my network that I've developed here and abroad?
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How do I take all these different people that I've interacted with and spiral this into fashion for the next couple of years, next couple of decades?
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Because if we make this so cookie cutter, then people would get crumbs out of this.
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But as we tailor this and bring in professionals that meet the needs of what the cohort demands, everybody wins.
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And that's the goal.
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Great that was a great explanation, Michael.
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So I I would say what's great about this kind of professional learning is it's not I'm going to learn a particular thing about math or reading or dyslexia, or maybe it's you know AI or computer technology or whatever.
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This is really going to be designed around the particular cohort of people that we get together.
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And we're being intentional about making sure that we have a wide range of educators that came into the profession from different paths, have different experiences already that they're bringing to, they have different desires because they're going to tell us what they hope to get out of the academy.
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And we're going to be able to adapt as we go to make sure that we're meeting those needs.
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We do have those themes, those pillars of instruction that we've already designed, and we're going to we'll be around those pillars, but we'll be able to adjust as necessary within that framework to make sure that this cohort of people get exactly what they need on an individual basis and also as a group.
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And I think the the mentor uh support, the home room, homeroom mentor uh idea is gonna solidify that because they can they'll meet virtually in between in-person sessions and also be available for one-on-one calls.
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So um we're we're excited, you know.
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I'm I'm sure there's a lot of people that would listen to this that wish they had an opportunity to have done this when they were in that first through third year, because it just makes uh tremendous difference.
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Because you might be in a school where you're the only new teacher in a grade level or in a in a in a band of of grade levels, and so having somebody like you doing the things that you're trying to do uh just can can be a tremendous level of support.
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That's great.
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So, Gail, members you're watching this, uh district office leaders, uh principals, school administrators, um, it's not too late.
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Take a look, go to page.inc, uh check out this program.
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If you want, if you got questions, reach out to Michael or to Craig.
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Uh, but it sounds like an outstanding program, and I'm sure it's going to be very, very successful.
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Uh, and so even if you're thinking about uh your teachers for next year, but uh if I was still a principal, I think I would be trying my best to have one teacher from my school in every cohort over the preceding years, would be my hope and goal and aspiration.
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So thank you both for what you're doing.
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Uh, do any of you have any parting words you'd like to share with our Gale members about this or anything just uh related to Paige?
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Well, just uh we appreciate Gail's support and then the partnership that we have with you and the work that we're able to do outside of professional learning kind of things, but just all of the legislative advocacy and with agencies and everything else.
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Um so we we are glad that we can address this and other things that Paige does with your audience.
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And and if you're not a Paige member, of course, we always encourage you to check us out and then and join 94,000 other uh educators around the state.
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Perfect.
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And uh I'll just say this on but on behalf of Paige, it's a great partner of Gale.
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Um, it doesn't matter the 40 days of the legislative session, uh the committee work days during the session that are above and beyond the 40 days, every study committee meeting that goes on around the state during the summer and fall.
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Um, I want uh our Gale members to know how strongly represented uh Page is at all of those meetings.
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And and Paige um has a lot of clout uh and are very engaged, and and they they help support uh advocacy with public education more than than most people will ever know.
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Um and so we we're very appreciative of all the work you and your team do, Craig.
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Thank you very much.
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We appreciate it.
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All right, well, Gail members, you heard it.
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You got an opportunity for the Page New Teacher Academy.
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Hope you'll take some time to look this up and start identifying some of your rockstar teachers to be a part of this program.
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Thank you, Michael.
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Thank you, Craig, thank you, Gail family, for joining us for another episode of Gail Unscripted.