Full Transcript for The Invaders Review: Storm – Fusion Patrol Ep. 813

the church and find Vincent, 00:02:43.928 --> 00:02:46.134 while the invader slips away, unseen. 00:02:47.036 --> 00:02:51.663 Act 2. The sheriff's deputies have come and gone and investigated the attack, 00:02:51.883 --> 00:02:53.660 and Vincent has a serious concussion. 00:02:53.967 --> 00:02:57.334 He must stay at Father Corelli's place in bed for several days. 00:02:57.833 --> 00:03:01.427 The doctor warns he might suffer from delusions. 00:03:02.212 --> 00:03:05.766 Now that the lawmen are gone, the organist and Luis have returned to the church, 00:03:05.766 --> 00:03:09.381 where, hidden behind a secret panel, is a weather control machine. 00:03:10.066 --> 00:03:15.134 Luis goes to the ship to make preparations. They are forming another hurricane. 00:03:15.674 --> 00:03:19.766 In Corelli's house, Lisa is telling Corelli a few lies about things Vincent 00:03:19.766 --> 00:03:23.161 never actually said, saying he sounded crazy. 00:03:23.591 --> 00:03:28.206 She's not just poisoning the well of Corelli's mind, she's also poisoning Vincent's tea. 00:03:28.740 --> 00:03:32.147 Vincent tries to tell Corelli about the invaders, but he sounds, 00:03:32.420 --> 00:03:35.061 well, crazy or delusional. 00:03:35.578 --> 00:03:39.646 Corelli leaves to speak with a doctor and to help with the town's preparations 00:03:39.646 --> 00:03:40.901 for the upcoming hurricane. 00:03:41.424 --> 00:03:45.249 It doesn't look like St. Matthew's beach will be spared the storm this time. 00:03:45.856 --> 00:03:50.096 Vincent wakes and tries to stumble out of the room, but what he sees is Lisa 00:03:50.096 --> 00:03:52.671 and the organist having a conversation downstairs. 00:03:53.246 --> 00:03:58.453 He tries to reach the phone, but collapses. Lisa finds him, rips the phone out of the wall. 00:03:59.257 --> 00:04:03.756 Act 3. No more lies. She outright tells him she's giving him poison, 00:04:03.756 --> 00:04:06.386 and there's no way he's going to be able to stop her. 00:04:06.856 --> 00:04:11.066 He'll have to drink eventually. She tells him that Father Joe has been very 00:04:11.066 --> 00:04:15.672 good camouflage for their activities, renovating the church and installing their equipment. 00:04:16.761 --> 00:04:19.280 The doctor has advised Corelli to take Vincent to a hospital, 00:04:19.570 --> 00:04:23.634 and Luis and a couple of other invaders offer to help Father Corelli with him. 00:04:24.168 --> 00:04:25.607 They head back to Corelli's house. 00:04:26.700 --> 00:04:31.602 Vincent and Lisa struggle as Corelli comes home. Lisa turns this to her advantage 00:04:31.602 --> 00:04:33.520 and makes it look like Vincent was assaulting her. 00:04:33.909 --> 00:04:37.078 Enraged, the man of God punches Vincent in the face. 00:04:37.566 --> 00:04:41.692 He quickly apologizes, but Vincent can say nothing because, behind Corelli's 00:04:41.692 --> 00:04:46.262 back, Luis holds a killing disc, threatening to kill Corelli if Vincent speaks. 00:04:47.022 --> 00:04:49.722

They put him in a car, and the invaders drive off with him. 00:04:50.321 --> 00:04:55.687 Act 4 The road is out, and the invaders are stopped by a sheriff's roadblock. 00:04:55.960 --> 00:04:59.922 Vincent makes his case These men are trying to kill me While the deputy may 00:04:59.922 --> 00:05:04.822 not believe Vincent He also cannot ignore what he said The deputy agrees to 00:05:04.822 --> 00:05:07.889 take Vincent to the hospital To the consternation of the invaders, 00:05:08.394 --> 00:05:12.063 Corelli tries sending Lisa to the shelter at the inn He'll follow along soon. 00:05:13.212 --> 00:05:16.231 As he wants to go to the church and pray for Vincent and himself. 00:05:16.707 --> 00:05:19.808 Lisa, knowing that the invaders are working in the church now, 00:05:19.808 --> 00:05:24.671 tries to talk him out of going, but he is adamant, so she goes with him instead. 00:05:25.263 --> 00:05:27.968 The deputy pulls up at the sheriff's office to report what he's doing, 00:05:28.073 --> 00:05:32.450 and Vincent uses the opportunity to steal the squad car, and he returns to the church. 00:05:32.949 --> 00:05:36.508 In the church, Corelli sees the aliens at work, and they take him prisoner at 00:05:36.508 --> 00:05:40.285 gunpoint. Corelli realizes that Vincent was right all along. 00:05:40.785 --> 00:05:43.708 Vincent arrives and sneaks in the back window. Corelli sees him, 00:05:43.708 --> 00:05:45.144 and the two attack the invaders. 00:05:45.568 --> 00:05:49.388 When the humans get the upper hand, Luis commits suicide and flings his burning 00:05:49.388 --> 00:05:53.614 body on the weather control device, burning it up along with the evidence. 00:05:54.095 --> 00:05:59.428 Lisa and the organist make to leave. She knows that Corelli's threats are meaningless 00:05:59.428 --> 00:06:03.163 because he believes that everything alive is a child of God. 00:06:03.827 --> 00:06:06.787 They escape, and Vincent cannot stop him from letting them go. 00:06:07.344 --> 00:06:12.258 Epilogue The storm has passed and Vincent is leaving. Corelli has smoothed things 00:06:12.258 --> 00:06:13.511 over with the sheriff's office. 00:06:13.830 --> 00:06:19.078 The newspaper headline boldly proclaims that the hurricane in Florida bypassed the nation's capital. 00:06:19.577 --> 00:06:22.201 No duh, Sherlock. The end. 00:06:23.244 --> 00:06:24.423 Okay. 00:06:25.426 --> 00:06:25.954 Yes. 00:06:26.708 --> 00:06:33.928 Another John Newble episode, which if I'm not mistaken, the last one was about killer bugs. 00:06:36.183 --> 00:06:36.668 Yes. 00:06:38.250 --> 00:06:39.301 So, what did you think? 00:06:40.101 --> 00:06:46.005 I rather enjoyed this. I watched it twice very carefully in preparation for 00:06:46.005 --> 00:06:50.561 this session, and I enjoyed it thoroughly each time. 00:06:52.795 --> 00:06:58.085 It's one of the better episodes of the series. I'm not sure I'll go out and 00:06:58.085 --> 00:07:01.335 say the best, but it's definitely one of the better episodes. 00:07:01.695 --> 00:07:04.476 I can think of no others that I thought were better. 00:07:07.078 --> 00:07:12.003 Nobody here is an idiot. father corelli is not being an idiot you know he's, 00:07:12.918 --> 00:07:14.503 everything's working against vincent, 00:07:15.647 --> 00:07:19.485 yes he never he doesn't speak of invaders until after he's been clobbered and 00:07:19.485 --> 00:07:23.235 been warned that he that he could have delusions which is perfectly valid if 00:07:23.235 --> 00:07:28.095 he was so seriously hit they couldn't even take him to a hospital and just gonna 00:07:28.095 --> 00:07:29.252 leave him at corelli's house, 00:07:30.267 --> 00:07:35.735 of course these were simpler times but the invaders are really embedded in the town, 00:07:37.118 --> 00:07:42.265 they seem at least for a year yeah and they seem to quite a lot of them you 00:07:42.265 --> 00:07:46.925 know that he had a car full of them one of the yes yes one of. 00:07:46.925 --> 00:07:52.695 The great unanswered questions i had was how much of that town cleared out at 00:07:52.695 --> 00:07:54.695 the end of the at the end of the episode that's. 00:07:55.701 --> 00:08:01.425 Yeah i i i honestly don't know but it felt like there were quite a few you know 00:08:01.425 --> 00:08:04.803 the doctor might have been one I don't think so, 00:08:06.068 --> 00:08:11.015 I don't get that impression you know all of them might have been the innkeeper, 00:08:11.475 --> 00:08:13.936 yes I think was he for sure, 00:08:15.157 --> 00:08:18.565 he wasn't one of the ones that was taking it he looked like it but you know 00:08:18.565 --> 00:08:21.695 no finger and we don't know for sure or. 00:08:21.695 --> 00:08:24.333 At least the hotel at least the hotel clerk. 00:08:25.436 --> 00:08:27.462 So well that's who I meant yeah but, 00:08:29.348 --> 00:08:32.913 So they did a much better job of the paranoia. So, for example, 00:08:33.342 --> 00:08:38.267 when Vincent went to the church, did you have suspicions who would be an invader, 00:08:39.037 --> 00:08:43.222 when he first went, when he was walking over, or even when he got to Father Corelli's house? 00:08:44.359 --> 00:08:45.897 I wondered if Corelli was one. 00:08:46.501 --> 00:08:50.059 Ah, see, I was wondering if the two teenagers outside with their car. 00:08:51.596 --> 00:08:55.755 I was wondering about them, too. I have learned about one lesson I have learned, 00:08:56.237 --> 00:09:03.286 from watching episodes of this series to date is I suspect everyone on being 00:09:03.286 --> 00:09:05.851 an invader, except David Vincent, of course. 00:09:06.484 --> 00:09:08.835 Which is exactly why the Red Scare was so, 00:09:11.556 --> 00:09:18.392 insidious. You know, paranoia is, it's a terrible thing. It's a terrible thing. 00:09:18.910 --> 00:09:19.444 Yes. 00:09:19.769 --> 00:09:22.796 So I'm going to ask you, and I enjoyed this episode. Oh, I already said that 00:09:22.796 --> 00:09:26.856 because it's one of my

favorites. I'm going to ask you this question. 00:09:29.330 --> 00:09:36.356 This is, we've never really gotten into this in the series, and it's always 00:09:36.356 --> 00:09:39.695 a sort of problematic thing in science fiction. 00:09:40.107 --> 00:09:45.947 So where do you think the invaders sit in God's plan? 00:09:48.540 --> 00:09:49.556 Ah, yes. 00:09:51.813 --> 00:09:59.673 They sit in the category of errant children of God. 00:10:01.876 --> 00:10:10.814 And the variety that the book of Joshua would have people to smite, actually. 00:10:11.731 --> 00:10:12.733 That's Old Testament, right? 00:10:12.733 --> 00:10:13.233 I say that, 00:10:15.318 --> 00:10:20.444 because I'm reading the book of Joshua these days, so I'm thinking about that and wrestling with it. 00:10:20.792 --> 00:10:27.567 On the other hand i could see jesus say love your neighbor and turn the other cheek so. 00:10:28.804 --> 00:10:35.719 Yeah and i know he's supposed to have a higher rank i think in the whole in the whole tier, 00:10:37.113 --> 00:10:42.673 so here and i know you're not a literalist right with the whole seven day seven 00:10:42.673 --> 00:10:44.174 day six day creation, I guess. 00:10:45.215 --> 00:10:47.119 I'm pro-science and everything. 00:10:47.630 --> 00:10:57.716 Yeah. Well, I would hope so, but also going back to 1967 and a pretty, I don't know, 00:10:58.463 --> 00:11:03.104 I'm not saying that Corelli necessarily truly believes in the six day creation 00:11:03.470 --> 00:11:05.673 because I don't know exactly what denomination he is there. 00:11:05.673 --> 00:11:08.687 Although I think you have some thoughts about his church. But... 00:11:09.134 --> 00:11:09.473 Yeah, I do. 00:11:09.593 --> 00:11:16.639 You know, if you do take the more literalist view or... 00:11:19.553 --> 00:11:21.542 Should there be anybody out there, 00:11:23.773 --> 00:11:24.353 in the heavens? 00:11:24.993 --> 00:11:25.313 Actually, 00:11:27.473 --> 00:11:31.653 if you're a literalist on Genesis, first of all, you're misreading the text. 00:11:31.653 --> 00:11:36.143 Second of all, there shouldn't be aliens out there. And so the invader shouldn't 00:11:36.143 --> 00:11:39.218 exist for you inside the universe of this series. 00:11:39.897 --> 00:11:43.973 That's kind of my thought. But of course, if they do, they do exist. 00:11:43.973 --> 00:11:47.863 And if you believe God created everything, whether you're a literalist or not, right? 00:11:47.863 --> 00:11:53.833 If you believe God created everything, then the invaders must have been created by God. 00:11:53.833 --> 00:12:02.473 But obviously there are bad people in the universe, on the earth and in the 00:12:02.473 --> 00:12:04.819 world. So should Corelli have shot him? 00:12:06.553 --> 00:12:11.657 I kind of, you know, I don't want to sound bloodthirsty. 00:12:12.673 --> 00:12:16.733 And Corelli is less, you know, he's not as, how do I put this? 00:12:17.393 --> 00:12:23.113 Obviously he's not as informed as vincent is vincent has seen quite a few. 00:12:23.113 --> 00:12:23.633 No he's not. 00:12:24.233 --> 00:12:29.113 Aliens die corelli's only seen one and he saw him take a pill and jump on the 00:12:29.113 --> 00:12:33.293 thing so he doesn't know maybe the pill is what caused him to burn up and destroy 00:12:33.293 --> 00:12:36.709 the thing right he doesn't realize that killing them causes them to burn up, 00:12:37.952 --> 00:12:41.921 i have a feeling if i were in vincent's position, 00:12:43.273 --> 00:12:48.675 You know, with the odds stacked against me as much as they are stacked against him, 00:12:49.395 --> 00:12:59.113 that sure, you'd want to capture an alien so you could take him in for analysis to show somebody alien. 00:13:00.705 --> 00:13:05.581 But when you're in a really bad spot, I'm not opposed to killing them. 00:13:06.153 --> 00:13:10.523 And I don't just mean in self-defense because, you know, part of the reason 00:13:10.523 --> 00:13:13.793 you don't want to kill people because it's a bad thing, but also because you 00:13:13.793 --> 00:13:16.736 don't want to get caught. And if you know that they've got a built in, 00:13:17.084 --> 00:13:19.244 you're not going to get caught because no one's going to ever figure it out 00:13:19.532 --> 00:13:21.052 because there will be nothing left. 00:13:23.261 --> 00:13:30.001 I think I would adopt that strategy fairly quickly instead of holding him at gunpoint. 00:13:31.081 --> 00:13:36.151 I know he wasn't the one doing that in this episode, but the thing is what would 00:13:36.151 --> 00:13:37.577 make an interesting story. 00:13:38.682 --> 00:13:45.771 Oh, interesting. I suppose would be shooting one, you know, adopting that approach 00:13:45.771 --> 00:13:48.849 and then shooting one and he doesn't burn up. 00:13:49.707 --> 00:13:55.935 Cause that would be, that was like, Oops, not actually an invader, a collaborator. 00:13:57.584 --> 00:14:01.554 Yes. Then you're in trouble with the law. 00:14:01.839 --> 00:14:06.401 And as far as I can tell, David Vincent, 00:14:08.741 --> 00:14:14.430 thinks of himself more as a soldier fighting this war, this lonely war. 00:14:14.997 --> 00:14:15.467 Yeah. 00:14:16.013 --> 00:14:20.441 And in war, soldiers kill the soldiers on the other side. 00:14:21.005 --> 00:14:25.747 But I think so far he hasn't really killed much except in self-defense. 00:14:26.588 --> 00:14:29.874 Yeah, I think maybe, you know, maybe in a running gun battle or something, but. 00:14:31.210 --> 00:14:35.036 Which you might argue is not self-defense, but like in this episode, 00:14:35.256 --> 00:14:38.140 a guy's trying to kill him with a disc and he manages to flip him around. 00:14:38.356 --> 00:14:41.909 And this really annoys me. He manages to flip him around, hit him with a disc. 00:14:41.909 --> 00:14:46.400 The disc does indeed kill him, which is good to know that an invader's disc 00:14:46.690 --> 00:14:48.669 and Vincent had the disc in his hand. 00:14:49.589 --> 00:14:56.539

So it didn't burn up. He had, he had a disc and I mean, he lost it because. 00:14:56.539 --> 00:15:01.860 That'd be great. that'd be a great thing to keep around to show fbi or somebody. 00:15:02.430 --> 00:15:06.980 Or use on other invaders yes yes both, 00:15:07.549 --> 00:15:10.379 and you know we made a big deal about him trying to get hold of one of those 00:15:10.379 --> 00:15:15.039 discs just a couple of episodes ago and then he had one in his hand we did and 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:17.800 yeah and i know he gets clobbered so there's a, 00:15:18.723 --> 00:15:25.506 there's a reason for him losing out on it but oh he was so close He was so close in this one, 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.539 and I feel cheated on it. 00:15:32.339 --> 00:15:40.179 Well, I have a theory about why characters, especially major characters, 00:15:40.179 --> 00:15:41.466 in this case David Vincent, 00:15:42.365 --> 00:15:50.314 in series don't make sensible decisions more often, why they lose things they should keep. 00:15:50.800 --> 00:15:54.329 And that is if they kept if they made better if they made better decisions and 00:15:54.329 --> 00:15:56.978 didn't lose these things the series would be shorter yeah. 00:15:58.680 --> 00:16:03.414 I mean there's there's definitely that but you sometimes you can't, 00:16:04.175 --> 00:16:08.149 it would have been better if he had managed to salvage the device and then lose 00:16:08.149 --> 00:16:12.759 it not just in that fight if he'd had it and it's like it was in his pocket 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:16.399 and then oh it's they pickpocketed me or you know, whatever. 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:20.547 It just better for the tension on it. 00:16:20.871 --> 00:16:25.660 Now, here's my question. So they're in that fight. He kills one alien. 00:16:26.884 --> 00:16:33.243 Then the organist comes at him and clobbers the hell out of him quite brutally. 00:16:33.902 --> 00:16:39.133 And then the organist goes to get the disc and he's going to come back and he's 00:16:39.133 --> 00:16:42.612 going to give Vincent a cerebral hemorrhage. 00:16:43.255 --> 00:16:48.236 Now, they use a cerebral hemorrhage device because it's not suspicious. 00:16:48.851 --> 00:16:53.643 But I'm thinking having David Vincent beat to a pulp and then having a cerebral 00:16:53.643 --> 00:16:58.993 hemorrhage looks just as suspicious if they beat him to a pulp and he died of 00:16:58.993 --> 00:17:00.274 having his head bashed in. 00:17:00.996 --> 00:17:04.506 Right. It's not going to look any different. That's a doctor is going to say 00:17:04.698 --> 00:17:07.020 he died of a brain brain brain breed. 00:17:08.157 --> 00:17:14.071 He died of a brain bleed brought on by the the the trauma. 00:17:14.653 --> 00:17:18.953 So why didn't he just finish him off? because he didn't make a good decision 00:17:18.953 --> 00:17:23.449 and they gave the teenagers the opportunity to come in and save the day. But, like... 00:17:23.641 --> 00:17:25.573 But, of course, those two guys were banging on the door. 00:17:26.333 --> 00:17:28.434 Right, right. So, if he just... 00:17:30.443 --> 00:17:35.472 Which would have been better for him to have killed Vincent before those guys came in and rescued him? 00:17:35.629 --> 00:17:39.593 I mean, that, of course, a murder in the church might have caused the investigation 00:17:39.593 --> 00:17:41.673 to go on longer and mess up their... 00:17:41.713 --> 00:17:42.914 And there you go. 00:17:43.522 --> 00:17:48.113 But just beating a guy to a pulp, just having the organist beat the guy to a 00:17:48.113 --> 00:17:53.083 pulp just led to a few minutes and yeah all right fine not a crime scene let's go, 00:17:55.678 --> 00:17:59.393 I'm going to put another one out here for you in questionable decisions by the 00:17:59.393 --> 00:18:06.832 aliens they catch Gantley on their boat Gantley has come out in a small boat, 00:18:07.891 --> 00:18:13.573 and they give him the old cerebral hemorrhage and apparently then they drop 00:18:13.573 --> 00:18:15.585 him in his boat and cast him adrift. 00:18:16.404 --> 00:18:22.244 Wouldn't it have been better if they'd cast his boat adrift and tossed him out in the water? 00:18:22.924 --> 00:18:24.999 Yes, from their point of view. 00:18:26.787 --> 00:18:30.386 The boat might have been found or his body might have been found eventually, 00:18:30.642 --> 00:18:35.442 but for a while it would be he's missing and maybe they didn't want to search. 00:18:36.060 --> 00:18:41.244 Maybe they didn't want to search to hit the boat, but it just feels like his 00:18:41.244 --> 00:18:42.938 body might not have been found for days. 00:18:43.271 --> 00:18:48.564 And then, you know, exposure and little fish eating him and things would have 00:18:48.564 --> 00:18:53.664 been a lot, a lot less suspicious than just, oh, he had a cerebral hemorrhage 00:18:53.664 --> 00:18:55.354 and he died in the boat while he was out there. 00:18:55.354 --> 00:19:02.756 So, yeah, let's see. I already mentioned that Vincent takes another real solid beating in this one. 00:19:05.203 --> 00:19:08.384 I do. One thing I do really like about this episode is the fact that Gantley 00:19:08.384 --> 00:19:10.364 comes upon this entirely on his own. 00:19:11.411 --> 00:19:11.805 Yes. 00:19:12.377 --> 00:19:17.096 He spots something fishy hurricane in February. Very strange. 00:19:17.462 --> 00:19:22.280 Hurricane came up out of nowhere. Very strange. Boat in the eye of the hurricane, 00:19:22.507 --> 00:19:24.224 which, you know, the eye of the hurricane is fine. 00:19:24.224 --> 00:19:28.424 It's just getting to the eye of the hurricane that's the problem for a boat, 00:19:29.801 --> 00:19:32.588 and the fact that it somehow bypassed the little town. 00:19:33.047 --> 00:19:39.394 But here's the weird – I really do appreciate that he was on it and he was finding 00:19:39.394 --> 00:19:43.734 it out and he just got too close and got – And we have to wonder how many other 00:19:43.734 -->

00:19:47.139 times and places has this happened that Vincent knows nothing about? 00:19:47.884 --> 00:19:53.934 How many dozens, hundreds of people are onto the invaders, but never managed 00:19:53.934 --> 00:19:58.324 to get it out to the public or find enough evidence to even, 00:19:58.784 --> 00:20:00.757 you know, I don't think Gantley suspects aliens. 00:20:01.076 --> 00:20:07.234 I just think Gantley is onto a mystery and he's putting the pieces together 00:20:07.234 --> 00:20:10.765 and he's, well, why is he hanging out in the church? 00:20:11.534 --> 00:20:14.117 What makes him think that there's something in the church? 00:20:15.178 --> 00:20:20.176 That is an interesting question. Or maybe that was a trap by Lisa. 00:20:21.535 --> 00:20:27.519 Or maybe you saw that Lisa got some sort of clue. This happened off screen. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.785 We do not have the answers. 00:20:29.250 --> 00:20:32.924 Yeah, we don't know if he actually ever really did it. Because Lisa actually 00:20:33.325 --> 00:20:36.239 is very good at feeding lies. 00:20:36.651 --> 00:20:41.929 Because, you know, Vincent hasn't spoken to her at all. But Corelli comes in, 00:20:41.929 --> 00:20:43.689 she's, oh, he's talking crazy stuff. 00:20:45.429 --> 00:20:49.779 Which he wasn't. But she was just poisoning the well. So it is possible that 00:20:49.779 --> 00:20:54.969 she literally put Vincent on that so that it was a trap, that he would go over 00:20:54.969 --> 00:20:57.269 there and then they would corner him and kill him. 00:20:57.576 --> 00:20:59.817 And that could very well have been all it was. 00:21:00.869 --> 00:21:06.219 So, yeah. All right. I'm fine with that one. I am concerned about the geography 00:21:06.219 --> 00:21:09.169 of the East Coast, which, you know, I'm not terribly familiar with. 00:21:09.389 --> 00:21:15.288 I was looking at this. Geography is a big point for me in this episode. 00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:17.239 Not a good point, I'm guessing. 00:21:17.925 --> 00:21:22.839 No, it's a terrible point in here. The narrator tells us at the beginning of 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.945 the episode that St. Matthew Beach is near the Florida Keys. 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:29.755 That's point number one. 00:21:30.727 --> 00:21:36.639 Point number two, when it comes time to take David Vincent to the hospital, 00:21:36.639 --> 00:21:38.520 the hospital is in Tampa. 00:21:39.479 --> 00:21:41.947 Yep, that's kind of the wrong side of Florida, as I recall. 00:21:43.169 --> 00:21:43.569 Yes. 00:21:45.696 --> 00:21:52.697 And then the geography, we get the map, a little spinning top and what have you in the episode. 00:21:53.509 --> 00:21:55.123 It's off the coast of Miami. 00:21:57.625 --> 00:22:04.944 And further, the first hurricane, supposedly, you know, there was a comment 00:22:04.944 --> 00:22:08.771 from Vincent about it going up the coast, the coastal cities. 00:22:09.178 --> 00:22:12.741 But really, it didn't sound like it got out of Florida. 00:22:13.563 --> 00:22:15.174 No, it did not. 00:22:15.174 --> 00:22:18.724 And then at the end, we know it didn't get out of Florida because the darn thing 00:22:18.724 --> 00:22:23.913 was there at St. Matthew's, which, as you say, is, you know, definitely in Florida. 00:22:25.026 --> 00:22:30.754 But the headline says, Storm misses nation's capital, which unless it's been 00:22:30.754 --> 00:22:35.017 moved to Florida recently, Mar-a-Lago, 00:22:40.057 --> 00:22:46.761 yeah, it's like, what the heck are they talking about? Why is that the headline in the paper? 00:22:47.834 --> 00:22:51.858 And on a second thought, if that is the headline of the paper, 00:22:52.085 --> 00:22:53.994 that must be the next day, right? 00:22:54.638 --> 00:22:57.094 Right, exactly. Well, actually, I think about this. 00:22:57.094 --> 00:23:01.484 Let me just tell you a true story. Why doesn't Vincent have to sleep a few more 00:23:01.484 --> 00:23:03.961 days in Corelli's bed because of that concussion he got? 00:23:04.810 --> 00:23:11.094 Yeah okay that's one thing but let me tell you a true story which was of a hurricane 00:23:11.094 --> 00:23:18.002 gloria back in 1985 i think yeah it was hitting new york city, 00:23:19.555 --> 00:23:22.176 I lived in southwest Georgia, 00:23:25.675 --> 00:23:27.101 and we were feeling effects of it. 00:23:28.211 --> 00:23:32.735 Oh, I feel effects from hurricanes here in Arizona sometimes. 00:23:32.735 --> 00:23:35.505 Yeah, so some of these storms are massive. 00:23:36.116 --> 00:23:43.385 Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And yes, thrashing along the coast is going to have a 00:23:43.385 --> 00:23:47.595 wide swath of impact on the storm. 00:23:47.595 --> 00:23:55.156 But yeah, Washington, D.C. is far enough away that, yes, it could be impacted by the storm. 00:23:55.278 --> 00:24:00.935 Heavy rain, storm swells would be the most likely things at that distance if 00:24:01.315 --> 00:24:04.885 the eye of the hurricane was somewhere near Florida at the time. 00:24:04.885 --> 00:24:11.955 But it just it just feels like maybe there was some rewriting and the prop department 00:24:11.955 --> 00:24:16.593 didn't get the memo or some lines cut or see that, 00:24:17.332 --> 00:24:20.617 it just feels like the threat wasn't that big of a deal. 00:24:21.272 --> 00:24:25.855 I mean, not trying to make poo poo hurricanes, but, you know, 00:24:25.855 --> 00:24:30.068 it just it didn't it didn't seem like a mega alien storm because, 00:24:30.190 --> 00:24:34.183 you know, let's face it. We've had so much bigger hurricanes since then. 00:24:34.872 --> 00:24:42.195 That just this old 1960s hurricane seems pretty rinky dink compared to some 00:24:42.195 --> 00:24:43.635 of that i could see maybe it's. 00:24:44.935 --> 00:24:51.539 Maybe the department that prepared the newspaper front pages didn't get the the memo i'll be right. 00:24:51.835 --> 00:24:57.085 Okay or it it could have been well no it could have been i was gonna say maybe 00:24:57.085 -->

00:25:00.005 it had something to do with the previous hurricane that was supposed to have 00:25:00.005 --> 00:25:03.255 swept up the coast but yeah i don't know, 00:25:04.015 --> 00:25:10.735 it's yeah bad geography bad geography yes it also seems like father joe being 00:25:11.135 --> 00:25:13.035 or father corelli whatever we want to call him, 00:25:14.842 --> 00:25:18.024 being a great cover for them doesn't make much sense because how is it that 00:25:18.024 --> 00:25:22.480 they're really going to manage to keep him out of the church whenever they want to do storm work? 00:25:23.003 --> 00:25:27.444 It seems like that's just kind of his place. Trying to keep a priest out of 00:25:27.444 --> 00:25:30.752 the church is not a good idea. I don't see how it works. 00:25:31.732 --> 00:25:34.634 Yeah, I'm just thinking. 00:25:35.234 --> 00:25:40.184 He has to go around the altar and the confessional booth a lot. Okay, you see. 00:25:40.234 --> 00:25:47.916 Yeah. So a little, a little thing. One technical point, I am pretty sure, 00:25:48.682 --> 00:25:49.855 and it's, it's hard to tell. 00:25:50.854 --> 00:25:53.962 I'm not going to lie. You could, you could make the case, perhaps not. 00:25:54.235 --> 00:25:54.574 Okay. 00:25:54.574 --> 00:25:57.850 It's kind of hard to tell, but that top was spinning clockwise. 00:25:58.660 --> 00:25:59.124 Yes. 00:26:00.830 --> 00:26:06.775 And hurricanes spin anti-clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere. So they do indeed. Yeah. 00:26:08.542 --> 00:26:14.834 So maybe that would have been something that they could have mentioned too in, you know, Gantley. 00:26:15.009 --> 00:26:18.631 It's like, it defies all the laws of nature. It was spinning clockwise, 00:26:19.284 --> 00:26:24.549 which should have had a lot more climate scientists working on that one. But yeah. Yeah. 00:26:27.031 --> 00:26:27.421 Okay. 00:26:27.421 --> 00:26:33.731 Lisa, Lisa was tired, tense, and on edge. The lovely Barbara Luna. 00:26:33.731 --> 00:26:38.981 Yes. I love Barbara Luna. I mean, it's like, I looked her up, 00:26:38.981 --> 00:26:41.378 and of course, she's a great character actress. 00:26:42.214 --> 00:26:48.678 And of course, she was in Mirror Mirror for the original Star Trek. 00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:49.740 Yeah. 00:26:50.311 --> 00:26:55.746 And I know that you remember this one, Buck Rogers in the 25th century. 00:26:56.329 --> 00:27:00.071 Time of the Hawk, or Day of the Hawk. I forget which it is. Yeah. 00:27:00.451 --> 00:27:02.767 Time of the Hawk. Time of the Hawk. Yeah. 00:27:03.509 --> 00:27:10.973 Yep. And her little feather hat. Yep. Oh, yeah, Barbara Luna was in tons of stuff over the years. 00:27:11.883 --> 00:27:18.993 But as an invader goes, she's tired, tense, and on edge. That seems kind of emotional to me. 00:27:20.102 --> 00:27:25.461 Let's talk about her here. This is where I have a huge question. 00:27:25.461 --> 00:27:30.251 I know this is not the first time it's come up. It's probably not the last time 00:27:30.251 --> 00:27:32.943 it will come up. But here it goes. 00:27:35.340 --> 00:27:39.218 Because we, as this run this through, invaders are supposed to be faking emotions, 00:27:39.473 --> 00:27:46.501 except for the exceptions being the mutants whom the other invaders want to destroy. Yeah. 00:27:47.898 --> 00:27:53.823 Right? Except when the other invaders do act emotionally. 00:27:54.632 --> 00:27:54.691 Yeah. 00:27:56.283 --> 00:28:01.161 Is her emotional acting meant to, to be part of the, 00:28:01.848 --> 00:28:06.424 I don't know, the, the, the ruse that, you know, the father Carelli wants to 00:28:06.424 --> 00:28:10.234 go over to the church because he wants to do, I don't know, sweep behind the 00:28:10.234 --> 00:28:11.879 altar or whatever it is he's going to do. 00:28:12.268 --> 00:28:17.164 And they're, they're making a hurricane in there. And so she gets all tired 00:28:17.164 --> 00:28:21.744 and tense and on edge. And, and he's like, Lisa, do we need to talk? 00:28:21.744 --> 00:28:25.126 Are you going to probably maybe that, I don't know. 00:28:26.710 --> 00:28:34.820 Well, actually, I took that to be her act, the face she put on in front of Father Corelli. 00:28:35.505 --> 00:28:41.153 But then I was thinking about the face she showed when he wasn't around. 00:28:41.968 --> 00:28:42.391 Oh, yeah. 00:28:42.722 --> 00:28:47.506 And I noticed her tone of voice changed, her body language changed. 00:28:48.667 --> 00:28:53.074 It was a very good acting job by Barbara Luna. And by Cote Swear, 00:28:53.074 --> 00:28:54.878 I detected emotion in all that. 00:28:55.392 --> 00:28:59.934 Yeah, it was very good emotion. But then on the other hand, that's what an actor 00:28:59.934 --> 00:29:03.896 does. So I guess that they have professional actor aliens. 00:29:04.943 --> 00:29:11.244 Yeah. And so was she putting on different fake emotions for David Vincent, 00:29:11.244 --> 00:29:12.559 or was that the real Lisa? 00:29:13.322 --> 00:29:19.998 I think, oh, yeah, the sort of gloating you have to, yeah, I think they gloat a little. 00:29:21.974 --> 00:29:22.814 I think they gloat a little. 00:29:22.814 --> 00:29:24.055 But that's an emotion. 00:29:24.620 --> 00:29:29.722 Yeah, but I think they all do it. I think we have definitely seen a little bit of that. 00:29:29.978 --> 00:29:33.739 Oh, Mr. Vincent, we have out-clevered you, haven't we? 00:29:34.935 --> 00:29:38.814 Except, of course, well, they actually usually have out-clevered him. But... 00:29:40.722 --> 00:29:44.448 He's more lucky than anything else in these episodes. 00:29:44.697 --> 00:29:45.155 Yeah. 00:29:46.871 --> 00:29:54.210 Yeah, I would put this episode as one if I were going to tell somebody what's the Invaders about. 00:29:54.691 --> 00:30:00.497 The pilot, obviously, that's a solid piece of work. And then this is a good one. 00:30:01.600 --> 00:30:05.181 You definitely watch it and you think, all right, I can see, 00:30:06.263 --> 00:30:07.821 like I said,

nobody's really stupid 00:30:07.821 --> 00:30:11.159 in it, except the invaders make some questionable choices along the way. 00:30:11.391 --> 00:30:17.473 Even the deputy, I mean, for crying out loud, exactly, word perfectly right. 00:30:18.147 --> 00:30:20.604 He knows Vincent was attacked and beaten. 00:30:21.324 --> 00:30:21.934 He does. 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.958 Right? Then Vincent's in the car with these guys and he says, 00:30:25.173 --> 00:30:26.653 these guys are trying to kill me. 00:30:26.897 --> 00:30:31.081 Now, you know, maybe they'll all go, oh, you know, he's got a concussion and 00:30:31.081 --> 00:30:37.394 he's crazy about that. But if you were a sheriff's deputy, you can't ignore that. 00:30:38.391 --> 00:30:41.085 Right. You, you, you have to act. 00:30:42.261 --> 00:30:45.949 It's like a duty of care kind of thing. You just have to act. And he did. 00:30:46.287 --> 00:30:52.814 And, you know, Vincent betrayed him on it. But yeah, but Vincent had a concussion. He has an excuse. 00:30:52.948 --> 00:30:55.231 Yes but i wonder what. 00:30:55.231 --> 00:31:01.161 I still wonder what father corelli told the sheriff i just to get yes yes he 00:31:01.161 --> 00:31:05.515 stole the police car but he had a good reason he saved my life. 00:31:05.817 --> 00:31:09.260 Well yeah partially i said yes those men were trying to kill him, 00:31:09.823 --> 00:31:14.201 yes those men were trying to kill him and they were trying to kill me too and 00:31:14.201 --> 00:31:20.671 vincent knew that and he came back and that's why he did it and for you know 00:31:20.671 --> 00:31:22.443 also he did have a concussion, 00:31:23.006 --> 00:31:25.038 and and of course all those people are gone, 00:31:25.793 --> 00:31:29.154 now so they all cleared off so you've got the it's like, 00:31:29.601 --> 00:31:33.791 this guy this guy this guy this guy oh yeah and they all secretly snuck out 00:31:33.791 --> 00:31:40.804 of town sounds about like uh about like uh they were guilty of something so yeah i i'm, 00:31:41.899 --> 00:31:46.578 i'm i'm pleased overall with the behavior of the characters in this episode. 00:31:46.961 --> 00:31:50.359 And that's fairly, fairly rare. 00:31:51.857 --> 00:31:54.531 Uh, across the board. Yeah. 00:31:54.908 --> 00:32:00.269 Yes. I guess that brings us to the writer who is chiefly responsible for this. 00:32:00.925 --> 00:32:04.733 Yeah. The talented Mr. John Newball. 00:32:05.993 --> 00:32:12.041 John Newball. Yes. His other work includes. 00:32:13.147 --> 00:32:13.671 Um, Dr. 00:32:13.671 --> 00:32:17.942 Loveless and circus. Dr. Loveless from the wild, wild west. 00:32:20.136 --> 00:32:22.281 He wrote Bread and Circuses For 00:32:22.281 --> 00:32:27.634 the original Star Trek I didn't get a credit for it But he did the work, 00:32:28.813 --> 00:32:39.181 He wrote This is his second episode Of two For the invaders The other one was Nightmare Yeah. 00:32:39.181 --> 00:32:45.704 That was the bugs Yes Yeah, Roddenberry got credit For Bread and Circuses, didn't he? 00:32:47.515 --> 00:32:54.597 Yes. And I love this one because I had a fun time going down the IMDb credits. 00:32:56.389 --> 00:33:03.835 John Newble was the co-writer of a terrible movie from 1958 called The Screaming Skull. 00:33:05.258 --> 00:33:08.044 I think we talked about that last time when we did Nightmare. Yeah. 00:33:08.851 --> 00:33:12.874 Yeah, it's just a hoot in its own way. 00:33:15.318 --> 00:33:19.899 Yeah. But those are my, I mean, I have a page full of questions here. 00:33:21.954 --> 00:33:23.382 13 pages of notes. 00:33:26.801 --> 00:33:29.901 And I am detail-oriented. Let me see what I have here. 00:33:31.375 --> 00:33:36.315 We've gone through some of this. Say note one Sometimes the invaders want to 00:33:36.315 --> 00:33:43.065 seek And kill David Vincent Sometimes no My second point was on geography We covered that, 00:33:44.450 --> 00:33:51.167 We covered whether Lisa has emotions Father Joe I like Father Joe And, 00:33:52.545 --> 00:34:01.555 I being a complete Liturgical Geek Started noticing The church I wish. 00:34:03.785 --> 00:34:09.046 And this gets me to filming location. And one simple Google search, 00:34:09.046 --> 00:34:10.718 and I found the filming location. 00:34:11.229 --> 00:34:13.638 And then I went to Google Earth, and I confirmed it. 00:34:14.968 --> 00:34:15.252 Okay. 00:34:16.500 --> 00:34:22.003 The exteriors, and yes, all this is, of course, in Southern California. 00:34:22.398 --> 00:34:27.285 This is in Northridge, California, in this case. 00:34:28.304 --> 00:34:34.256 And the church building, it's—and first of all, I won't swear to all the—I'm 00:34:34.453 --> 00:34:41.077 sure that probably some of the interior spaces are in studios, but the church interior, 00:34:42.737 --> 00:34:47.491 is an old Lutheran church in Northridge, California. 00:34:48.496 --> 00:34:49.082 Okay. 00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:51.667 And so, 00:34:54.206 --> 00:34:58.817 also being a history geek, I have read deeply in the history of the Lutheran 00:34:58.817 --> 00:35:02.408 churches in this country, because why not? 00:35:03.418 --> 00:35:09.720 And so when I realized this was supposed to be a Lutheran church of the old, 00:35:10.627 --> 00:35:15.767 Norwegian synod, I started thinking what I knew about that synod. 00:35:15.767 --> 00:35:20.817 And realize it doesn't take much to dress one of those up to make it look like 00:35:20.817 --> 00:35:23.196 a Catholic church, because it already has the altar. 00:35:25.334 --> 00:35:30.547 So just bring in the Sacred Heart of Jesus, hang a honking big crucifix on the 00:35:30.547 --> 00:35:36.759 wall, put the Stations of the Cross out, put a confessional booth in one corner. 00:35:38.507 --> 00:35:39.795 It looks like a Catholic church. 00:35:40.888 --> 00:35:49.277 I have to say that, and again, 1967, And perhaps the audiences would be more 00:35:49.277 --> 00:35:52.197 in tune to that and go, oh, yeah, yeah, there's the

confessional booth. 00:35:52.197 --> 00:35:53.378 This must be the Catholics. 00:35:56.927 --> 00:36:00.927 It kind of feels like, I mean, you would notice it. I would not notice it. 00:36:01.427 --> 00:36:06.127 I couldn't tell you, you know, unless they've got the pews that have the spikes in them that you sit on. 00:36:06.187 --> 00:36:09.571 You know, I can't identify a denomination. 00:36:11.227 --> 00:36:18.580 Oh, I even saw the kneelers. I checked for kneelers. Okay. The only thing I noticed that was off. 00:36:20.530 --> 00:36:30.222 And I wonder how many people noticed this back in 1967. We know from the episode in dialogue that, 00:36:32.306 --> 00:36:38.686 the freak hurricane that set the hurricane expert off happened in the middle of February. 00:36:39.217 --> 00:36:39.419 Yep. 00:36:40.204 --> 00:36:47.472 And this episode aired in April of 1967. So I guess it's February of 1967. Okay. 00:36:48.772 --> 00:36:53.078 And this episode happened, the rest of this episode happens the week afterward, 00:36:54.285 --> 00:36:56.739 because we get that in dialogue. Okay. 00:36:56.739 --> 00:36:57.861 Or a week or two, yeah. 00:36:58.830 --> 00:37:00.509 Yes. And so I checked. 00:37:00.509 --> 00:37:01.983 Had Gantley been there two weeks? 00:37:02.596 --> 00:37:06.690 Didn't you say Gantley was there two weeks? Yes. A week or so, yeah. 00:37:07.582 --> 00:37:13.631 Okay. I did check the date of Ash Wednesday in 1967 was February the 8th, 00:37:13.787 --> 00:37:17.433 which means there should have been crosses draped in purple in that church. 00:37:19.821 --> 00:37:20.944 Yeah, they probably. 00:37:20.944 --> 00:37:21.888 I'm just saying. 00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:27.484 They probably were not planning that far ahead. 00:37:28.204 --> 00:37:30.649 I think they were probably patting themselves on the back going, 00:37:30.846 --> 00:37:34.782 and we got the kneelers and the confessional booth. This will fool anybody. 00:37:37.348 --> 00:37:40.006 My own priest wouldn't know the difference, but yeah. 00:37:41.124 --> 00:37:43.843 And there would not have been flowers on the altar in Lent. 00:37:45.945 --> 00:37:48.164 Fair enough. That one, I think I knew. 00:37:48.683 --> 00:37:56.614 Okay. Okay, but my own theory about the—and I did look up the history of the 00:37:56.614 --> 00:37:58.778 location. I didn't get dates on everything. 00:38:00.090 --> 00:38:05.294 But apparently after the Norwegian Lutherans cleared out, other groups took 00:38:05.294 --> 00:38:07.876 over the building and made their own modifications. 00:38:08.114 --> 00:38:10.703 And it's now a Korean Baptist church. 00:38:11.266 --> 00:38:18.022 But my own theory about this spot in 1967 during filming was, 00:38:18.583 --> 00:38:21.604 it was probably during a time after the Lutherans had left, 00:38:23.703 --> 00:38:25.584 but before another church had claimed it. 00:38:27.865 --> 00:38:32.904 So all the old markers, so the building was empty, it was available, 00:38:32.904 --> 00:38:37.948 distressed it up to look Catholic, but I did, and it will pass muster, right? 00:38:38.419 --> 00:38:43.564 But I did look at it and think this has all, this building, both outside and 00:38:43.564 --> 00:38:45.157 inside, has all the markers, 00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:48.754 of a church that's been sitting empty for a little while because it needs a 00:38:48.754 --> 00:38:54.825 new paint job and it needs someone to go polish the wood again and paint the steps. 00:38:55.516 --> 00:39:01.584 And it just fits. But I'll say at the same time, that sort of fits the story 00:39:01.584 --> 00:39:05.804 a bit because Father Corelli's been there about three months. 00:39:06.164 --> 00:39:08.200 And before that, it was abandoned. 00:39:08.694 --> 00:39:15.014 So you could say in sight in universe that he hadn't had time to get the church painted yet. 00:39:16.911 --> 00:39:21.625 So, and of course we never had any opportunity to see how busy his church is either. 00:39:22.525 --> 00:39:26.207 You know, if nobody's coming, if nobody's coming, nobody's bringing money in. 00:39:26.207 --> 00:39:31.301 So we might have to hold off on that coat of paint for a while, but yeah. 00:39:31.936 --> 00:39:35.342 Oh, it's the Catholics though. So they could have sent over some money from Rome. 00:39:36.597 --> 00:39:38.957 But yeah. Do you have anything else? 00:39:39.217 --> 00:39:40.552 Well, the diocese could have sent money. 00:39:40.657 --> 00:39:40.999 Yeah. 00:39:41.451 --> 00:39:49.722 No, I don't. Those are my notes. I accept to say that the title of the next episode is Panic. 00:39:50.257 --> 00:39:56.687 Ah! Oh, had me worried there for a second. Right. Panic. All right, 00:39:56.687 --> 00:39:57.878 Kenneth, thank you for joining me. 00:39:58.556 --> 00:39:59.173 My pleasure. 00:39:59.866 --> 00:40:05.938 Listeners, I hope you'll join us all again next time on Fusion Patrol.