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The 'Tonight Show' host talks with Terry Gross about parenting, being entertaining in times of tragedy, and the biggest thing he learned from his time at 'SNL.' Film critic Justin Chang reviews 'Darkest Hour.'
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00:00:17on lee ahn who lou from w h y y in philadelphia I'm terry gross with fresh air heavy thanksgiving today Jimmy fallon talks about hosting the tonight show and lots of other things unlike many other comics he insists he had a happy childhood Remember we There was a
00:00:35report card from kindergarten and the comment from the teacher was jimmy smiles too much I would smile even when i was getting yelled at just always happy kid After becoming famous on saturday night live he went through a phase of wanting to be cool even if it meant
00:00:52having to do something he wasn't good at So he told his agent i don't want to do any movies unless it's a western and they're like you realize that they don't make western thinking What are you talking about Go I want to be like shot off a horse
00:01:06or something and justin chang reviews the new film about winston churchill starring gary oldman that's coming up on fresh air Hey it's guy rise here host of how i built this with a quick recommendation every holiday we can come to a lot of waiting traffic airport security lines
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00:01:39get your podcasts This is fresh air I'm terry gross happy thanksgiving We wanted to play something really fun for the holiday so we're going to listen back to my recent interview with jimmy fallon the host of the tonight show We talked about the tonight show and lots of
00:01:54other things but first we talked about his new children's book everything is mama it's his second book for children just beginning to learn language Each page has an illustration of a mother animal teaching her baby animal a new word The mother holds up in object or points to
00:02:11it and says what it iss like shoe or waffle or balloon Instead of repeating the mother's words the baby animal responds to each new word by saying mama on the day the book was published shaquille o'neal came on the tonight show and read the book out loud with
00:02:28jimmy fallon on his lap everything was mama by jimmy Oh my god yeah you everything is mama according to you But there are other fun words you'll want to know too Son mama Waffle Mama i'm getting i'm getting tired My mom's getting tired on my favorite yo mama
00:03:13Jimmy fallon welcome back to fresh air so that was that was a moment you want to kill o'neill's laugh well i didn't know he wanted me to have him on his lap no i i knew that he i was going to say something about the book because he
00:03:31said like i want to mention something about dada or some because last time he said they enjoyed the dad dad book or something so i said sure so i brought up the book mama not knowing that he wanted me to sit on his lap like of course you
00:03:43know how you want me to read this once you come up over here and i'll show you how to read this book to you i was like okay i don't know what i'm going to because he's lift me up before he has i mean shaquille o'neal's very big
00:03:57man he can kind of do whatever he wants to me once put his suit blazer on just to see what it would look like i mean it was like it's wrapped in a queen bed i guess sheet like a comforter it was like the largest thing everybody had
00:04:12sleeves on it was amazing eso when i walked over he goes are just going to sit on my lap so i just oh my goodness so of course i looked like a little baby he's holding me and it's on his lap and he's reading the book to me
00:04:26it just made me laugh so what why have you started writing children's books is it because you have children now and you've been reading to them yeah it's fascinating they're getting to that age now they're four and two and a half where they're actually starting to the four
00:04:39year old startinto memorize books and kind of almost pretend like she is reading you know it's it's really entering toe literally watching someone learn how to read in front of me and so we have so many books in our house and she just goes to every word and
00:04:56turns the page and tell us what's happening in the scene points to words like like almost like if she knows how to read what she doesn't yet but she's so i figured it be kind of fun to have a children's book just so i can say oh this
00:05:09is something daddy wrote and hopefully you know read with him which i did the idea of the first book i had a book called your baby's first word will be dad that and the idea was it was a joke that husbands and wives or you know have a
00:05:24thing an unspoken contest of what the baby's first words would be is it going to be mama's going to be data so i would love the baby's first word to be dad that's just a selfish thing and so i would go all around the house our first child
00:05:38and every time i saw if i give her her bottle or gave her food or change your diaper i was like you want to dada me too dada you want his time for dada i just kept saying they were dead that hopefully you know to maybe faked the
00:05:50kid out so that she just keeps repeating saying the word dada you know at this point in care of the kid was unintelligent i figured that she would learn later on but so i did that did not work and so i turns out i'm not a very accomplished
00:06:06child psychologist like i thought i was your father apparently orbit like a very cruel father so i but then i put out a book called your baby's first words would be dada where it's just different animals doing animal sounds and then the baby animals they're saying dad that
00:06:21back and i said if i read this i was lucky enough to have a second child and i read this to the second child and it worked and the baby's first word was dada are you reading books to your children that were read to you and you were
00:06:35their age Yes the exact books in fact i've saved my books from when i was a kid when one of my favorites is well there's a monster at the end of this book eyes the grover book where he keeps warning you not to turn the page because he's
00:06:49afraid it's sesame street he's crying he's like please don't turn the page but please don't hurt the page like you know there's a monster at the end of this book so start building a wall so you don't open you have to knock down the brick wall it's like
00:07:03why you're doing this please don't turn the page again you know and then he's putting rope on the thing and he's using wood and he's hammering like don't there's a mustard in that this book why you know and it turns out the end the monster is grover hey
00:07:18is the monster at the end of booking girls and you are so scared of course it's just me you know it says and i loved because it was funny it taught me bravery i guess or you know to be fair i just love the booking my kids love
00:07:30it to the state i read them that all the time my impression is you had a happy childhood you've said you had a happy childhood i really did i know for a comedian yet so i was going to say is out for a comedian so many comedians run
00:07:44on depression anger resentment and had like a really difficult childhoods do you think they like your sense of humor was affected by the fact that you say you had a happy childhood yeah i mean i mean to be really honest terrify if i went to therapy maybe something
00:08:02would be unearthed but i don't think so i think i really did have a happy childhood i was always a happy kid jimmy jimmy if you go to therapy they'll underthings about your happiness too okay okay good so it's a double always something it's a win win okay
00:08:20yeah they'll get something in there yeah but i remember we went there was a report card from kindergarten and the comment from the teacher was jimmy smiles too much which is very interesting what an odd thing to say about a child but i think like i would smile
00:08:39even when i was getting yelled at you know are told like hey knock it off for we'll stop fooling around i would just like go okay just always happy can you know do you think that being reasonably happy affected the kind of comedy you do i think so
00:08:54yeah i mean i was very i don't know if his prudish or you know i very like a lot of my material i know i was sort of my parents seeing and my grandparent's seem like grand parents help raise me you know they lived in our backyard kind
00:09:09of like they had a cottage right behind our house and so i was always hang out my grandma my grandpa every day you know they help they taught me how to drive and all that stuff growing up and i just would hang out with him and it was
00:09:23very kind of a clean comedian i never cursed her said anything risque and my and my act just growing up i mean the older i've gotten i've kind of expanded a little bit more but my first couple acts was just very squeaky clean i think it's kind of
00:09:38ah i was very happy that that's where i was i was raised because it's a tricky i think harder to make those jokes and make comedy funny if you don't have any profanity or anything dirty do you remember anything from those early performances Yeah my goodness i mean
00:09:55i i start out my mom heard about a contest on the radio on impression contest and she said jimmy should enter this impression contest you have three minutes to do any impression and you do all these voices in your bedroom on bagram like hey you can hear what
00:10:13i'm doing in my bedroom but i'm like i think let's just stop there i go but i go maybe i could do something and someone gave me a troll doll because i was graduating high school is price sixteen we're seventeen at the time and they gave me a
00:10:26troll doll with a graduation cap on his head like go graduate and that was a present i don't know what was going to do with this thing but i took the hat off into the diploma off and i use that in my three minute act and i said
00:10:39i'm going to do different impersonations of people trying to be the spokesperson for this troll doll so i would say like first up for the auditions jerry seinfeld i go okay people okay what kind of dog is this he's got crazy hair his arms and legs don't move
00:10:55no place for this type of car you know and and then i go next up pee wee herman like i like to play these dolls i like to play with myself toe you know and so i ended up i won this contest and so i was seventeen i
00:11:13think at the time and i did three minutes that did all that did probably twelve impressions oh and i won i want to say it was like seven hundred dollars or something crazy in three minutes and i remember going home and laying the money out of my kitchen
00:11:28table and we took a picture of it and this is when this before digital photos i mean when you took a picture ahead to this is it you can't like you take twelve of them and pick the best one out so we have a photo of like all
00:11:40this like cash on my kitchen table me standing behind it like wow is comedy this easy I mean i can just do three minutes to get seven hundred dollars like that's amazing This is what i want to do for the rest of my life and then it turns
00:11:54out college is not that easy it's like this is a rare thing you know it's funny the other time that you are in our show before you were hosting the tonight show you talked about how when you auditioned for lorne michaels for saturday night live you did the
00:12:07troll routine and they didn't hire you the hair tracy morgan but they called you back for another audition and lauren said but don't do the troll routine now we've seen the troll doll bit and we're fine with it move on let's do something else and i'm like but
00:12:25that's all i have i have my whole life i've been working on the troll routine at this point i was twenty three so all my experiences you know i moved to l a and i was you know working at the improv out there on melrose avenue and taking
00:12:40lessons at the groundlings and taking acting lessons with gordon hunt helen hunt's dad which was honestly gordon hunt probably thought i was an idiot i went to this acting class and this is like i was really studying like buddha haagen and all these things about acting like look
00:12:57at me all right s so i go in and i was really into james dean at the time remember this and i was like and i go james dean i read all his biographies He never acted in his acting class he just observed and i go oh how
00:13:11cool that is so james dean and cool so i would go to his class i pay money which i didn't have but i pay money for this class and i would say no i just want to observe and i would sit in the back of the class just
00:13:23watch the acting class and he was like jimmy sure i mean you should just get down here and like try and i go no i'm good i'm good i'm just gonna just gonna observe and he's like i gotta be honest i really think you're wasting your time but
00:13:36okay if you want to just sit back and and so i kind of just did that i didn't really act in the acting classes and it really paid off a zoo you could see in my movie roles if you wanted to be james dean because you're so different
00:13:52from james dean i mean seriously like in his wrong he's always like holding so much in and he's he's just like you know like romantic figure whose holding office again until it just like explodes out of him and he has this kind of like reserve and inner cool
00:14:10and you're so is seemingly like extroverted i loved him i loved river phoenix i loved leonardo dicaprio they're like my favorite they're my favorite actors and i think it's just because they just look so cool you know and they're just were so cool in every scene i go
00:14:29i'd love to be able to do that of course people want to do what they're not good at i think this is just a thing that happens with actors or comedians or whoever it's like i remember after i got sorry it live for a little while i told
00:14:41my agents and go i don't want to do any movies unless it's a western on the day you realize that they don't make westerns what are you talking about go i want to be like shot off a horse or something i just want to be a cowboy i
00:14:57don't want to do any movies unless it's a western and they were like thiss guys like difficult man it was like but why would i not want to do a comedy because that's clearly what i'm what i'm best at but you know it's just those faces you have
00:15:10to go through i mean wait what role did you see her will you the sheriff were you the guy who's given up guns because like sterling hayden in internal guitar you're right into town i think you don't have a gun but like you're so tough and you're so
00:15:25cool you're going to win no matter what anyway yeah i probably was the sidekick to the cool guy where i still was kind of cool but in my head i saw myself getting shot off a horse which again when i go to therapy something's gonna come I don't
00:15:41know why but i excise up with a good fall i love falling i mean i used to love chevy chase when i was growing up i used to practice falling i would fall down the stairs i would trip and knock things over on purpose you know i'm real
00:15:52i'm still very good at tripping and falling i would do jerry lewis and and chevy chase moves all the time i mean i've heard great chevy chase stories lauren has told me they say he was like chevy is so funny they would go to a restaurant so would
00:16:06be lorne belushi you know laraine newman gilda they be out to dinner and chevy go okay i'm gonna get up and i'm gonna trip and fall into that waiter with all the water on the chevy please don't do this please don't diego's not gonna do it please don't
00:16:21because they don't want to laugh then we get busted like they knew they were going to do it and he would spend all time walking all the way around the restaurant and they come from a different angle then trip and then knock into away knock water glasses everywhere
00:16:33and they would try to sit there and try to not laugh like they didn't know it was happening but lawrence said it was the funniest thing ever and he would do it all the time Okay we have to take a short break here when we come back we'll
00:16:43talk about the tonight show If you're just joining us my guest this jimmy fallon the host of the tonight show He has a new children's book it's his second one and it's called everything is Mama will be right back This is fresh air Support for this podcast and
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00:17:36gross this is the coolest thing i love your show so much and i listen to you whenever you get a chance either out you know how you possibly get a chance i don't even understand how that's conceivable but i'm walking to work now you are use a radio
00:17:54without people stopping you every step of the way i know it's interesting i don't wear disguise or anything i think that's exactly that i think that's the secret if celebrities were a hat and sunglasses his people will look at them yo who's that weird guy with the hat
00:18:08and sunglasses trying to hide if i just and me walking on the street with headphones no care really they just go hey now i'll get a hated every now and then the headphones a sign like oh he's listening to something i'd better not disturb him exactly i think
00:18:22that's the thing you wear headphones and not even be listening to anything i have done that on airplanes i gotta be honest i think people have done that to me on airplanes i was on an airplane once with mandy patinkin and he sat next to me and he
00:18:37was wearing headphones and i was like oh that's cool man it pink and i go that's cool and i was having a few beers on that like a flight from new york to l a and i had nothing to do that i just go back to hotel and
00:18:46go to sleep so i did i didn't hear them hanging out and pleasure to meet you because he took his headphones officer nice to meet you in court a big fan princess took his handphone off again oh yeah thank you then he put his head phone back on
00:19:00and he said some like you do a great job on caroline i go did you ever host and now he's like annoyed and so i was like kind of taking his head for i know why i never host i used to hang out with those guys you know
00:19:12belushi back in the day and put his headphones i go wait what you hung out with belushi like tell me a story i'd left here like a good belushi stories like no it's and then you see that he doesn't know it he just didn't want to talk to
00:19:25anyone who just want to sit and i totally ruined his flight from from new york to l a so mandy if you're listening i apologize i haven't heard from since but i talked to zero about sarah live and he told me how foolish it was just crazy well
00:19:38let's talk about the tonight show and i don't want to say here like thank you for having me on as a guest it was such a great experience i not only like enjoyed the experience of being on the show i really enjoyed the experience of being backstage at
00:19:50the show and getting a glimpse of how the show operates as a producer and host myself i really left seeing how other shows operate so that that was kind of really thrilling it's a lot of work that goes into that's the thing i don't know first of all
00:20:03you have a great staff everybody was so so super nice but i don't know how you do it you know i was out on a thursday so on your show you sang a version of esposito then you did your opening monologue then there was the password game then
00:20:17you interviewed anthony anderson than you interviewed me then you did a q and a with the audience while the band set up for kesha's music performance oh yeah and then when all that was over you had a record friday show because you record friday's show on thursday in
00:20:33addition to thursday show and i thought like this is insane oh yeah that was that was that was a good put in hours that yeah it was fun though it's a long it's it's rare that we do the double taping but it must have been the summer right
00:20:50yes there's a summer yeah first of all thank you again for coming people love hearing you but they love seeing you it must be so odd for you to like come talk and like pm publican have to talk is that i don't know you just so used to
00:21:02and you're fantastic at your job but i mean like it's i love the invisibility yeah it's a different beast but you did a bit with us we played password which is so fun i flunked out of password yes i like him for that is the best looking out
00:21:18of the tonight show this is terrible i totally blew way we do games and bits on the show and it's so funny because it will play like steve harvey comes on we'll play family feud and you watch on tv what jeopardy and you go oh i could answer
00:21:31that i know that that's easy like i can't believe these people aren't saying like name the number one item in your dresser drawer you know and then when you get asked and you're actually playing the game you freak out exactly you actually you don't know what's happening the
00:21:46sandwich no a sandwich is a new dresser drawer no why would that ever happen You know what a dumb answer but it's just so fun that's that's what's all that's what the game is fun my guest is jimmy fallon the host of the tonight show after a break
00:22:01we'll talk about how his monologues got more political and the accident he had in which he nearly ripped off his finger and justin chang will review Darkest hour the new film about winston churchill I'm terry gross and this is fresh air too Support for this podcast and the
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00:22:52eraser set from japan find special offers for fresh air listeners at little passports dot com slash fresh it's just me like your monologue has gotten more political from when you started on the tonight show you do trump jokes in most of your opening monologues have you changed the
00:23:12balance do you think i mean i think you've changed the balance of political humor in the monologue a little bit i mean we've always told jokes about the president or anyone we could make fun of in the white house or congress or you know we you know any
00:23:28politicians always good for ah laugh you know i feel like we'd like to mix it up usually we would do like forty percent political jokes and sixty percent just jokes about anything you know whatever pop culture thing because that's what i'm actually more interested in then politics i'm
00:23:48not that interested in politics but these days with our president and everything that he's i mean every day this five new scandals or things and you go it's just these air top stories and you have to see if you can find a joke which is kind of heart
00:24:07sometimes but if you can you have to just tackle it at least you i don't know kind of got that joke you kind of put that joke away you go okay good now that's that and you made a joke about that bet you made a joke about this
00:24:22bit but every day there's like five bits i mean you know we come in our writers like i don't know where else we could go but now he just started another fight with somebody else and so or something else is going on it's just getting it's just crazy
00:24:37so i think now we're more sixty political and forty fun poppy jokes because the thing is even if you're not political president trump has been involving himself inserting himself in like every aspect of popular culture football his reviews of saturday night live when he doesn't like an impression
00:24:56of him i mean he's just he's just is appearing in everything there's like no getting away from from anything and once that yes it is it's getting into a lot of stuff and it's ah no it's it's it's crazy so i just mentioned you know there was that
00:25:13time during the campaign when you had on candidate donald trump and your thing was asking him if you could mrs here because so many people thought he actually was wearing a to pay and he said yes you can and you messed us here and you got a lot
00:25:26of criticism for that for for kind of bringing him in on the joke and being nice to him as opposed to asking him tough quest questions they're doing like you know cutting satire and i'm wondering if that lead to doing more political humor too no i mean i
00:25:44even when he when he was a candidate i made fun of his hair you know to his face i actually wore his wig and we pretend we did a sketch where we're in the mirror talking to each other no no i know i guess i was wanting if
00:25:56like the criticisms lead tio do you know i don't care what anyone says i think everyone's i think they're no if if i need two people to write for my show i would have them write for my show i'm not to change who i am because of them
00:26:09it's just the world changing i've had eight years of obama so i never had this world yet so this is all learning for me i don't really know how to deal with this presidency some kind of learning as i'm going i mean the hair mess thing you know
00:26:27i asked him a cz you know questions that many questions as you know as hard hitting questions as i'm going to ask i asked him if he knew vladimir putin i asked him you know did he have any contact with him was he friends with them i mean
00:26:40i ask him those questions it doesn't get brought up because everyone just saw the hair thing the aw i can't believe he messed his hair up and showed out cool he was and i'm like i don't know if that's a cool thing if i went up to you
00:26:53and mess your hair up is that that cool I don't know i thought it was more of like a i messed i touched the guy's hair that everyone wanted to touch there like it was like is it realistic to to pay we've always i've asked him to do
00:27:04it for years and he's he went on all the other shows and he's been on every show but i just figured i'd ask hey can i mess it up he's like yeah he was just don't mess it up too much because i have some speech i'm giving and
00:27:17i go oh okay but i'm like i might as well do it if i'm going to go for it so just messed his era you've had to deal with a lot of tragedies and surprising events on the tonight show i mean you mentioned the shooting the massacre in
00:27:33las vegas and your approach to handling that was to say that it was a tragedy that you're here to entertain and that you will and then you brought out miley cyrus too to do this song and was was adam sandler singing with her yeah adam sandler of all
00:27:54people came and played great guitar and saying beautiful harmony with there that was a choice that you made that you weren't going to talk about what happened you were going to just offer some some beautiful music yeah well i mean we really are here to entertain were on
00:28:10every single night and i feel like there's a lot of problems happening with the world and a lot of stress when you watch the news we follow the news on most channels so you watch your local news you see what's going on in the world and then it's
00:28:21our job to make fun of whatever we can make fun of and just make you kind of laugh so as you doze off because i know people fall asleep after the monologue but just as you doze off you're in a good mood and you go it's going to
00:28:34be all right you know and i'm goingto be happy i'm going to have sweet dreams and that's kind of my goal just so my goal is that you have sweet dreams and you go let jimmy worry aboutthe stuff he'll have a joke on every single topic that and
00:28:48then we'll go to sleep and we'll wake up tomorrow and we'll deal with today and at the end of a long day again he'll be there and entertain us and get my head in the right space Well let's take a short break and they're going to talk somewhere
00:29:00if you're just joining us my guess is jimmy fallon the host of the tonight show who has a new children's book it's his second it's for children just learning language and it's called everything is mama we'll be right back this is fresh air hi this is david greene
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00:29:30podcasts so i've been noticing like your finger recently had been in a bandage now it's in a kind of flesh colored band aid that you can or something like that that you can hardly see but you could see it if you look and s o you had you
00:29:46had a really horrible injury would you describe what happened to you so it's called ring ring avulsion and ah i wouldn't google it if i were you it's pretty gross but what happened was i tripped and fell in my kitchen just running around and i put my hand
00:30:03on the counter top to catch my fall on my wedding ring got caught on the sharp edge of my countertop and i fell down but my ring stayed up and tour the ring didn't move it on he was just really strong Ring the rings in general i think
00:30:16are too strong it just ripped the whole end of my finger off attendance and everything and and i didn't know what had happened and i just blood coming out you know so i just i jumped and i wrapped a dish towel around my hand ran in the cab
00:30:31and and went to the emergency room and that i think i said i think i broke my finger and they go no you didn't break it ring avulsion we have to get like a special doctor in so i ended up i want to thank all the doctors and
00:30:45nurses at bellevue i was in bellevue for i see you for ten days doctor to doctor david chu was the microsurgeon plastic surgeon that save my finger that we're going to cut it off but it's it's crazy so right now this was the second surgery this my last
00:31:04one but they put a tendon in there and from my from my wrists and they put membrane from my rib cage and they injected fat in the side of the fingers what look straighter which they took from the bottom of my hand which i was like hey if
00:31:22you don't take fat out you must let go from my bed i mean i'm not gonna complain i'm going to complain if i wake up and i got six six pack abs you know i have whatever they took it out of my hand and said but so now
00:31:34i'm in the rehab phase i'm kind of like which is everyone tells you is that that is the ultimate that's what you have to do when you get any surgery it's all about the rehab so really do that and so as weird as we're talking i'm kind of
00:31:47just pressing on it just try to make it bend again wow so a lot of people probably would have fainted when they saw their finger after what happened when your finger was hanging on but you just see if it was me i'd like i think like the dish
00:32:02towels probably dirty so if i wrap it around my hand and you get an infection maybe i shouldn't do that i'd be standing there paralyzed you know like while so i'm pretty good with a gennie disasters i just kind of roll with the punches i mean the same
00:32:15finger i cut the tip off maybe a year before that i was making celta i don't know we know why i was making south side i don't know how i'm gonna gourmet southside maker don't even even care that much i'd love sounds that i don't i don't need
00:32:30to make it myself and i i i cut the tip off is that really sharp knife Also it made me mad because south was the one thing that you can buy basically anywhere i almost beg you to find the place it doesn't sell sell sell ah it's like
00:32:47your gas station you can get that but eso anyways i'm just so mad at myself for doing that but i cut the tip of that same finger off and i had to go the hospital and have it reattached and had bandages on two years before oh it's a
00:33:00nightmare i mean i went through a good phase where i was cutting my hands for like i went to the harvard lampoon i was getting in aa ah i was getting an honorary lampoon i was honorary member of the lampoon which means a lot to me i love
00:33:19harvard lampoon and i respect so many great comedians and writers that came from there and ah i went out it was probably around eight o'clock at night and the sun was starting to set and ah i just had had this injury happened the ring of all since i
00:33:37had a bandage on my left hand so the harvard band marching band came out and surprised me and played a song for me so my buddy goes ah hey you know you should really thank those kids because they don't get paid for this they just did this like
00:33:50they got the uniforms together it was a really cool thing they did that and i go absolutely and so i was outside there and i go hey you know what maybe give me a bottle of jagermeister and i'll present that to the band like hey this is a
00:34:01gift from me to you to thank you guys if you have the bottle inside i just got to be a silly fun count you know thing t give them and so somebody get me a bottle of jagermeister and it's dark and this fireworks going about to go off
00:34:16and i go to give it to the band i turned around and in the meantime some girl had gotten under knee to either proposed to me or give me a flower and i turned around and she's there and i tripped over her now again my left hand is
00:34:30completely bandage from the ring avulsion my right hand is holding a giant glass bottle of moons and i'm like don't hit this girl in the head with about me a bottle of it's glass glass so i jump over her and throw out the bottle and land on broken
00:34:46glass my right hand is now only but i had to go the emergency room this is like this's a true story and i'm going you gotta be kidding me this is the crazy but it was the oddest well the hottest month of my life that was right it
00:35:02was around july august it was right around when i just had the surgery for my for my other finger yeah it was honestly it was i'm so happy that phases over in my life but i had like two really bad falls in like two weeks and everything i
00:35:19know but the interesting thing is one of your things this pratfall like you're saying you love falling down the stairs on bob's testing at all but you never sell with but i don't really yeah i know what you want but i'm like if i had my left hand
00:35:34i could have i know i don't know i just maybe i was just my brain was just thinking about too many things your son like that but i usually i'm much better followed them that much more graceful so that all happened at like once and so now hopefully
00:35:46this finger is getting his it's good as it can get i'm actually starting to take piano lessons just to see if i can it's good for your fingers you know so i'm going to see if i can kind of learn piano and see if i can get my
00:35:58finger back to working order oh i like the idea that something really good might come out of it like learning to play piano so you were in the i c u for ten days is that to make sure that your finger still at it stayed alive yeah like
00:36:11i would get like you know they come and check on it every hour well and i would have to keep it elevated and under like this heat balloon almost that was like a plastic heated bag that would go over my hand and just keep the blood moving in
00:36:26flowing They had like an ultrasound with like it almost look like a like a pen That was an ultrasound pen and they would put it on the tip of my finger And if you hear the that was a good sign that mr blood flowing through so i was
00:36:42like it was just really insane time a lot of aa lot of alone time yeah so so ten days in the i c u what did you do to did you watch tv did you listen to music what what was your appetite for either being entertained or just
00:36:59absorbed in something other than yourself I read a lot of ah read a lot of books i didn't watch so much tv because daytime tv for me was pretty depressing i did not enjoy it it was like a lot of people a lot of judge shows where people
00:37:13suing each other and fighting it's like i'm not in the mood for that that i was like this is tara i want late night to come on out i don't i don't care if i watch you know i watched colbert kimmel i don't got him i don't care
00:37:24who it is that needed laugh i need to watch something funny right now on dh fresh but i remember reading a man's search for meeting bye arthur frankel and man oh man that was one of the best books ever read and it just if you think your life
00:37:43tough check out that book and you go wow that's it's a lot of struggle there one last question since you've been in the hospital even though you weren't able to watch late night in the hospital i guess no wifi either but anyways yeah so when you're doing your
00:38:01show now do you ever think about people who were in the hospital or who are home recovering or who have some kind of like chronic illness complaint and that you want to be there for them all the time i absolutely think about it all the time and that
00:38:16is the best thing about my show is that i know that there's people out there who are going through a tough time and hurting and i get notes from them and i get social media from them and i know there's people in the i c u and there's
00:38:29people in the hospital that can't even send notes but i trust me i'm sending them the best fives and i want them to just laugh and get through whatever they're going through and get out of there and go home get out of that hospital get well if you're
00:38:45sick it well i mean i really i meant to make people happy that's my job that's what i'm supposed to do i think on this on this earth and that i'm going to do whatever i can to make people happy jimmy fallon thank you so much for coming
00:38:59back to fresh air it's just great to talk with you i love it i love hearing your voice i can't wait to come back and i want to come back tonight show please please please any time thank you buddy jimmy fallon is the host of the tonight show
00:39:12his new children's book is called everything is mama film critic justin chang has a review of darkest hour starring gary oldman as winston churchill the film is set during the early days of world war two hitlers forces are rampaging across western europe when churchill is appointed prime minister
00:39:30of england in nineteen forty winston churchill is having something of a renaissance moment in popular entertainment In the recent film churchill brian cox played the prime minister as he confronted the looming specter of d day john lythgoe won an emmy for his turn as an aging post war
00:39:47churchill in the hit netflix siri's the crown now comes darkest hour aah ham fisted prestige entertainment but a grand showpiece for gary oldman who gives us perhaps the biggest brashest and certainly most prosthetic heavy screen version of churchill yet directed by joe wright from a hyper eloquent script
00:40:08by anthony mccarten darkest hour unfolds over several tense weeks in may nineteen forty western europe is crumbling under hitler's on i thought neville chamberlain having gotten nowhere with his disastrous appeasement policy has resigned as prime minister leaving churchill the unlikely beneficiary Although widely distrusted by the political establishment
00:40:29for his irascible unpredictable streak churchill is rightly seen as the only one strong enough to unite all parties and lead britain to victory even with the apocalypse looming there's a bit of official pumpin tradition to get through churchill is a private audience with king george the sixth who
00:40:48as played by a terrific ly restrained ben mendelson is very good at hiding his reservations about the appointment kristin scott thomas puts a commanding spin on winston's faithful fiercely intelligent wife clementine's who turns up every so often to remind him why he's the right man for the job
00:41:05he better be anyway with britain's armed force is about to be wiped out by the germans on the northern coast of france if you've seen christopher nolan's harrowing epic dunkirk which focused on the logistics of that famous evacuation darkest hour provides an undeniably fascinating look behind the scenes
00:41:24much of the movie takes place not at ten downing street but in the cabinet war rooms an underground bunker where churchill pores over military maps spars with his cabinet and consults his young ty pissed elizabeth an audience stand in nicely played by lily james Among churchill's rivals turned
00:41:41advisors is vie count halifax a chamberlain ally played by stephen dillane who's bent on negotiating a peaceful surrender with germany but the prime minister determined to seek victory at all costs isn't having any of it there's nothing here i reckon going down fighting if it couldn't be avoided
00:42:00nothing even remotely patriotic in death or glory if the odds are firmly on the former nothing in gloria's in trying to shorten the war that we are clearly losing j your fish europe is lost and before our forces are wiped out completely Now is the time to negotiate
00:42:28in order to obtain the best conditions possible Hitler will not insist on outrageous terms He will know his own weaknesses He will be reached when we're the lesson we learned when Way more dictators must be whoa a piece of that a mixed people just before we learn you
00:42:54cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth as he demonstrated in films like pride and prejudice atonement in anna karenina director joe wright likes to infuse tony literary material with a daring element of the theatrical in darkest hour that sense of showmanship plays out
00:43:16to visually arresting but sometimes garishly over the top effect The cinematographer bruno double nell emphasizes the doomsday mood by giving nearly every actor a ghostly pallor right since the cameras soaring around and around the crowded house of comments cranking up the spectacle one hundredfold when churchill rides a
00:43:36lift down into the bunker the film boxes him in on all sides by impenetrable walls of blackness liberalizing the title and making clear as if we needed reminding just how isolated this man is But if churchill is an island he is also a rousing populist hero as demonstrated
00:43:54by an entirely fabricated sequence that gives the movie it's multi ist moments the prime minister on his way to deliver a speech before parliament ends up riding the underground and listening to what is people have to say Presumably the scene with its cute child reaction shots and impromptu
00:44:12poetry recitations is meant to bring a tear to your eye But mine were too busy rolla going to get that far oldman khun b an actor of enormous subtlety equality that he is decidedly not brought to bear on his work here This is a fist pounding jowell twitching
00:44:28tour de force of acting If oldman skinny frame seems an odd one on which to hang churchill's larger than life proportions spiritually his performances of a piece with his madly energetic livewire turns and movies like sid and nancy and true romance And why not When you're staring down
00:44:46history's greatest monster and an oscar hangs in the balance It's No time to play it safe Justin chang is a film critic for the los angeles times If you'd like to catch up on fresh air interviews you missed like our interview with journalist luke harding author of the
00:45:05new book collusion about the connections between russia and donald trump and his campaign or our interview with national singer songwriter margo price who played some of her songs Check out our podcast You'll find lots of interviews to choose from Fresh air's executive producers Danny miller Our interviews and
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