Full Transcript for You Can See Everything (feat. Shy from Small Time World)

doing for real? 00:05:13 Speaker 1: Like, really? I was just like, oh, okay. 00:05:16 Speaker 7: I don't remember the last time I had to really gear up to go watch a movie. And then the thing about it, I had to do a doubleheader like him. Literally, I left Street Fighter. I got two tickets. I left Street Fighter, and I had to go. I watched Street Fighter at 6, and I wanted to watch this at 8.30. So I didn't even leave the theater. So I'm like, oh my God, I got to go watch this other movie. So anyway, it was done really well. It was produced well. really well like i was just like yo like the way this looks and the way he the direction it was man like like i was like okay because i i've shot documentaries before but not like in this way and i was just like because i'm not in them it was like he was just creeping around yeah yeah so that's a that's a really interesting way of doing. 00:06:04 Speaker 1: A documentary i was like okay that this is this is this is. 00:06:07 Speaker 7: Like intriguing or whatever i don't care about this white woman's. 00:06:14 Speaker 3: Story That's what I was sitting there thinking. 00:06:16 Speaker 4: Zero. 00:06:16 Speaker 7: Like, I was so... I don't care. Is she compelling as a person on screen? She was compelling. Like, just her look, the way she... Sure. But I don't care. Like, I don't care that you're in jail. I don't care how long you're in jail. I don't care about your... Your husband, your kids, I don't care. 00:06:38 Speaker 5: So as I was sitting there watching it, I thought that, I was like, if you don't know what's going on, like the story behind this, then this movie would be awful. 00:06:46 Speaker 7: Even with that, because obviously I know the story from watching the story. Oh, did you watch the Stevie show? 00:06:51 Speaker 1: But did you know before. 00:06:54 Speaker 7: I saw, I seen it somewhere, but it wasn't like, again, because I don't care about shit like that. 00:06:58 Speaker 3: You know who she is. 00:06:58 Speaker 1: Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen the name. You knew what happened. But I don't care enough about it. You know what I mean? Like, you know. 00:07:04 Speaker 4: I was really curious about if you didn't follow the story and know anything about it, because this is a crazy ass fucking thing before we even get to this point. 00:07:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. This shit was fucking everywhere. Yeah. How. 00:07:18 Speaker 4: Is this documentary for people that are aware, or can he tell it in a way that if you don't know anything about it, he can pick it up and follow? And that was kind of the question I was having. 00:07:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can, based on how you did it. But it's just, I don't care enough. 00:07:34 Speaker 6: I think you have to make yourself. Like, you have to be like, okay, well, I'm going to sit and watch it. 00:07:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:40 Speaker 6: But, like, after 20 minutes, you're like, oh. 00:07:42 Speaker 4: Is this it? 00:07:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. I got it. 00:07:46 Speaker 8: I was legit, Sean. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: I was like, why do we need three hours of this? 00:07:51 Speaker 7: I was so fucking mad. 00:07:54 Speaker 1: And I normally don't even curse around women, bro. 00:07:58 Speaker 7: But I was just that mad. Like, oh my God, I was so mad. I was like, who did this? And then when I realized Mike wasn't even here, I was mad. I was even more mad because he. 00:08:08 Speaker 8: Didn't have to go through it. I was like, God damn. 00:08:11 Speaker 4: He was actually interested in watching it, too. 00:08:13 Speaker 3: I'm sure he was, but he— He likes the dude that made it. He liked Nathan. 00:08:17 Speaker 1: And he's not even here. 00:08:18 Speaker 4: It was both of them. 00:08:19 Speaker 1: He's not even here. You, but yeah. And he's not even here. And I was just like, damn it. 00:08:25 Speaker 3: Ken, what'd you think? 00:08:27 Speaker 4: I was very familiar with the story because this woman is crazy. She scammed a lot of people. I remember listening to the daily was covering it and all. It was a text thing and I'm in the tech and all this stuff that happens with it. I share a lot of Ross feelings though. Very, very, very specifically three hours and 20 minutes in. I'm like, how the hell is he? 00:08:54 Speaker 1: Exactly. 00:08:55 Speaker 4: How in the hell is he going to stretch this out for three hours? I will give him that. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: When you saw how he stretched it out for three hours, y'all didn't like it. 00:09:05 Speaker 4: It was impressive that he managed. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: To pull that shit off. 00:09:09 Speaker 1: That's the word. That's the word. That's it, though. It is there. 00:09:14 Speaker 7: I didn't need the extra two hours and 40 minutes. 00:09:18 Speaker 1: I didn't need the extra two hours and 40 minutes. It's impressive that. 00:09:22 Speaker 4: You did it. But I didn't mean it. I was a little bit more engaged. I was with you. I was like, bro, what are we doing? There's a pocket where it hits where it became really entertaining and then it dropped off again. And I'm like, Rod, I didn't have the privilege of watching it at 8 or 8.30. 00:09:43 Speaker 1: I went Friday at 10.30. 00:09:45 Speaker 4: Which means that I was in there from. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: 11 to 1. 00:09:53 Speaker 1: I didn't want to set myself up like that, Ken. 00:09:56 Speaker 7: I was like, I gotta, because I really wasn't trying to go see Street Fighter that early. I wanted to go see it in Dolby Cinema, which was at 7, but I couldn't, you know what I'm saying, for the timing's sake, because I did not want to be there at 10.30 to. 00:10:09 Speaker 1: Watch this three hour long documentary. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: I had iced coffee like two hours before by 12 something. That shit was and I'm in this motherfucker like. 00:10:24 Speaker 6: I never eat all my popcorn and I was done I was eating my chips slow like I had some nachos like in Street Fighter like I said I had to

go back to back I had got. 00:10:34 Speaker 7: Popcorn and a drink and I said I'm going to save food for the next one I had to stretch it out and so yeah I had to stretch it out like I was like I waited until the previews was about about done, and then I open up my bag of chips, and I open up, only one. 00:10:52 Speaker 1: Of the cheese comes out. I had a plan. I needed to stretch out through this movie. 00:10:59 Speaker 4: That's how I was able to stay up the rest of the movie, because I was like, fuck it, these people are just going to have to eat the chips. Everybody bringing everything in the movie right now. So I just had to eat chips just to get me through the last part of the movie. But overall, like I said, I thought it was impressive what he did. I just, I didn't, I got things done. 00:11:17 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I got anything new. 00:11:20 Speaker 4: It's just, I don't know. It just felt like a big waste of time. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:11:23 Speaker 1: You know. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: Which, there were aspects of, like, different things he was asking and stuff like that that I thought was good. I think he didn't have to do this because she did a good job of it on her own, including the husband. 00:11:41 Speaker 1: But if you. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: Watch this and don't walk away with this motherfucking crazy as fucking shit. That shit fucking crazy. And there's something wrong with you and the fucking husband too. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: Did you like this movie, Sha? 00:11:50 Speaker 1: No, I hated it. 00:11:53 Speaker 6: Like, and I usually don't say stuff like that, but I did not like this. Um, it made me like pretend like I was going to care about this white woman. And I just did not have it for her, her husband or her children. Um, the actress I was like oh okay that part of it was kind of like alright I kind of understand and then the fact that he couldn't record everything so I felt like the reenactment was very smart I thought that was incredibly smart outside of that what the fuck and then I think what really frustrated me at the end cause like when the movie ended I was the first person out of the fucking theater but like when he was like trying to find humanity in this woman I was just like what is wrong with you who Nathan yes like he was like her husband's just doing and then I'm like she like that shit that's what she married the fuck I was struggling. I was really struggling. I was happy that the theater was kind of like struggling along with me because everybody was like, it was genuinely. Mine was different. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: Oh, really? 00:13:04 Speaker 1: Mine was too. 00:13:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, mine was different. Mine was full of laughter and people was like laughing. You could tell these people knew who the fuck he was in my eyes. 00:13:12 Speaker 1: They was hip. 00:13:13 Speaker 3: They came for this. 00:13:15 Speaker 4: They came for him, not her. 00:13:16 Speaker 1: Not her. 00:13:17 Speaker 4: And there were people that knew the story and wanted to see this. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:13:20 Speaker 5: And that was the aspect I took. I understand what all y'all are saying. I didn't give a shit and don't give a shit about her either, but I already knew the story. I listened to the podcast. I watched the show. Like, I'm very familiar with this. I listened to two podcasts about it. I'm very familiar with the story. So I'm with you, Ken. The lady is insane. So this is why I was interested in seeing. I was like, so how's she finna get this off with him? Because the story that they tell on the podcast and even on the show is completely different from this, I think. what I found interesting about it was he couldn't tell if she was scamming him or not. That was the most interesting thing for me throughout the movie. He didn't know, like, why he was there. 00:13:59 Speaker 6: That frustrated the fuck out of me. 00:14:00 Speaker 1: Why so? 00:14:01 Speaker 6: Because I felt like I was being scammed. I felt like they were scamming me out of my money because I'm just like, clearly that bitch is a liar and clearly money does matter to that bitch and she just got mine. Like, that's how I felt walking. Like, he was like, I don't know if she's telling me the truth or not. She lying. The bitch lying. She lying. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: That's because he started to like her. 00:14:24 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:14:25 Speaker 4: Women with this motherfucking shit. The girl called him out on it too. 00:14:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:14:29 Speaker 6: I genuinely was like, is he digging her with her husband now? 00:14:32 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:14:33 Speaker 4: I think so. Toward the end, they made it seem that way. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: I think there was a certain charm that she had on him. 00:14:38 Speaker 5: Because he literally can't understand that she thinks like that. And a lot of his content is getting into the thought process of people. Like, that's what he tries to do. So with this one, he reached a point where he just couldn't tell. And that's why he was so fascinated by it. But I kind of with him, I don't know if I agree with y'all. I don't know if she was lying. I think something kind of might be off with her. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: Hell no, Spike. 00:15:02 Speaker 5: Bro, I think that the Indian dude that she was married to the first time was doing her just like this white dude doing it. He got her ass in jail. That's really, I feel like, what happened. I think she's a little naive. And you know how them smart people be kind of special sometimes. She probably got a little bit of that going on. And I think that she's just been manipulated by people her whole life. I don't think she was lying to him. The jail thing, I think that she one million percent believes. And I'm going to tell you what scene it was. And I ain't going to go scene by scene. I'm going to throw stuff out here. You can't go to scene by scene. I'm going to tell you what made me think when she did the joke,

when he sold her the joke. Did y'all think that she was faking? 00:15:42 Speaker 1: Talking about the who's? Yeah, who's on first? Who's on first? 00:15:45 Speaker 3: Who's on first? 00:15:45 Speaker 6: No, I don't think she was faking, but just because she slowed on me, yeah. 00:15:51 Speaker 5: But just because, no, but because could be how she got herself in this situation. 00:15:57 Speaker 6: I mean, definitely that, living in a fake-ass world. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: Did you like the jokes then? 00:16:04 Speaker 1: I did. You did? What about you, Kimmy? I love this. I love this joke. 00:16:12 Speaker 3: Because she was genuinely confused. 00:16:14 Speaker 4: She was not genuinely confused. 00:16:16 Speaker 1: She was lying her ass off. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: She understood that joke. 00:16:21 Speaker 3: She was confused as hell. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: I do not believe her. You see that look on her face? 00:16:26 Speaker 4: That's the look she always have, bro. 00:16:29 Speaker 6: And this is why I felt like I got swindled. This is why I felt like I got swindled. 00:16:33 Speaker 3: That's why I thought this would be a good movie to watch. 00:16:35 Speaker 8: Then she would have stabbed your ass. 00:16:38 Speaker 6: She got us. 00:16:39 Speaker 4: Spike, I promise you, if you believe any of this shit, this motherfucker tell her, your ass would have got us. 00:16:44 Speaker 1: I believe it all. 00:16:45 Speaker 3: I think she just kind of touched. 00:16:48 Speaker 8: She is not touched. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: All that shit is a fucking lie. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: So what about the money part? You think that she was at. 00:16:54 Speaker 5: did what he thought and went up there and was listening or did y'all think that she was completely oblivious to that money conversation? 00:16:59 Speaker 6: Let's get the fucking money. Let's get the fucking money. 00:17:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. You too, Rod. Yeah, she wasn't oblivious. Come on, man. I mean, she said she never lied in her life. 00:17:10 Speaker 6: That shit was so frustrating. That shit was so frustrating. 00:17:14 Speaker 5: She also let contact. She was like, oh, I thought you meant about business. 00:17:19 Speaker 4: Oh, she did let contact. 00:17:20 Speaker 1: She did. She was lying. 00:17:22 Speaker 4: She was lying. 00:17:23 Speaker 8: She was lying then. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: She was lying. She just slowed. She was lying. 00:17:26 Speaker 6: I'm telling y'all. 00:17:27 Speaker 8: I'm telling y'all something. She was fucking lying then. 00:17:30 Speaker 1: She ain't that damn slow. No. She is, though. I'm telling y'all. 00:17:35 Speaker 5: Like, even with the blood machine, how he was explaining to her. Do you understand that saying this could do this and saying it can do this are two different things? 00:17:44 Speaker 1: She knew. 00:17:44 Speaker 6: She knew that. 00:17:45 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 00:17:46 Speaker 6: Okay, so let's just say the lady is on the spectrum. And maybe that's not what's wrong with her, but let's say it's something there. Yeah, let's say it. Something got to connect, though. Like, even when you are on the spectrum, like, it may not be this. It may not be that. You may have a different way. 00:18:00 Speaker 1: It's science for her. 00:18:01 Speaker 6: Okay, and it's bad science. She ain't made shit work. 00:18:07 Speaker 7: Right. 00:18:08 Speaker 1: She said, what did Trump say? I got concepts of a plan. 00:18:14 Speaker 3: Got concepts of a plan. 00:18:16 Speaker 1: That's what she was on. Yeah. She said, I got concepts of a plan. 00:18:19 Speaker 6: Even some of them equations, if you look at that shit, like as somebody who went to school for engineering, I was just like, they making up pseudoscience in that bitch. 00:18:29 Speaker 1: Right. I got a box. 00:18:31 Speaker 4: That can run a test. That's all she said. 00:18:33 Speaker 1: With some wires in it. Right. This wire runs here and this wire runs there. No shit. 00:18:39 Speaker 6: And then the white man was like, you shine the light through it and it tell you what's in the blood. 00:18:42 Speaker 1: Bruh. 00:18:43 Speaker 7: You sound so fucked up. 00:18:46 Speaker 4: Bruh. 00:18:46 Speaker 1: Now, maybe it is a thing. 00:18:49 Speaker 3: I think that speaks to. 00:18:50 Speaker 5: I understand what y'all are saying, but that just speaks to me as an audacity of white people. 00:18:54 Speaker 6: Yes. 00:18:54 Speaker 3: Going in there and selling that shit and they believed it. 00:18:57 Speaker 1: Like... Who is really the bad guy? They gave her all the money for this shit. 00:19:01 Speaker 6: This bitch dropped out of Stanford. 00:19:02 Speaker 1: At 19, yeah. 00:19:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, she didn't even really go to school. And y'all just like, yeah, bitch. 00:19:06 Speaker 1: But a lot of them do that, though. 00:19:07 Speaker 3: But if a blonde. 00:19:09 Speaker 5: A blonde, blue-haired, white woman coming to us, sounding like she got a good idea, acting like Steve Jobs. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: All of them just wanted to give her money. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: Ain't nobody with them ears and those eyes sitting here is going to sit here and look at. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: Me with those teeth. 00:19:19 Speaker 4: White me? 00:19:19 Speaker 1: No, no. 00:19:20 Speaker 4: You're not going to sit here and look all like a fucking cartoon character in my face. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: She does. 00:19:26 Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought that was an actor. For a good part of this movie, I was like, nah, this is a reenactment. That is not the real woman. 00:19:35 Speaker 1: That's her for real. That's captivating. 00:19:37 Speaker 4: Halfway through the movie, I was like, that is not her. I didn't really believe it was her, even though I was looking it up, until Amanda Snyder came up on screen. 00:19:44 Speaker 1: Oh my God. 00:19:45 Speaker 8: What'd you call that white woman? 00:19:46 Speaker 1: What was her name? Amanda Snyder? 00:19:48 Speaker 3: Seyfried. 00:19:49 Speaker 4: Seyfried.

00:19:50 Speaker 1: He always messes with people, man. 00:19:53 Speaker 2: If you would love to have more content from Frames Per Second, become a patron where you can contribute to what we review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review. while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from each cast member. You also get the opportunity to vote on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive to our Patreon. So become a patron at patreon.com frames per second, where there are two tiers you can choose from. That's patreon.com forward slash frames per second. 00:20:30 Speaker 5: What y'all think about the beginning when they were talking about the quote? They were talking about the character that I created. That goes to y'all point of her being a liar. 00:20:37 Speaker 4: Somebody lying. 00:20:38 Speaker 8: But a reporter can't find it. 00:20:43 Speaker 7: See, it's always convenient for them, though, because when somebody's saying they're lying, they can't never really prove it. that bitch didn't use that voice she had a deep. 00:20:53 Speaker 6: Ass voice when she was doing those presentations in that movie that we. 00:20:58 Speaker 3: Just watched yeah that. 00:21:00 Speaker 6: Bitch didn't have that voice and you gonna tell me she didn't create a character that's a. 00:21:04 Speaker 5: Good point that's a really good point she completely created a character and I 100% believe she said that and I'm gonna tell you why you talking about evidence they spent every other hour telling us that we got. 00:21:17 Speaker 1: Evidence that we recorded everything But what was it? 00:21:20 Speaker 4: But they never produced the evidence. 00:21:23 Speaker 2: No. 00:21:24 Speaker 4: So, if you're saying that you didn't say this, and you're saying that I have evidence that I didn't say this, produce the fucking evidence that you didn't say this, because at this point, it's not on the New York Times. 00:21:37 Speaker 5: No, they're writing a story. Y'all can't quote me and just put in whatever y'all want. Where is it where. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: I said that? 00:21:44 Speaker 6: I can if I. 00:21:46 Speaker 4: Even though they didn't produce evidence themselves, but they will do that. They were like, look, we stand by the accuracy of our reporting. And if you're coming to me telling me it's a lie and you got proof that it was a lie, show me the fucking proof. 00:21:59 Speaker 1: I guess. 00:22:01 Speaker 4: They stay lying. 00:22:02 Speaker 3: Oh, y'all thought she was lying about that. She said y'all think she created the character. 00:22:05 Speaker 6: Hell yeah. 00:22:07 Speaker 5: What about when he moves into the house? When they had a conversation about him being there all the time. At this point, do y'all like the husband? What do y'all think about the husband at this point? 00:22:16 Speaker 4: He a scammer too. 00:22:17 Speaker 1: He a bigger scammer than she is. Are you,

though? 00:22:21 Speaker 6: Because, like, that was, honestly, that was my question. Like, who is the mouse and who is the cat? Like, you don't necessarily know in their situation who's controlling what. Like, she seem like she don't know what the fuck going on, but I feel like she pulling strings. 00:22:35 Speaker 3: See, I think it's the other way around. 00:22:37 Speaker 5: I think she actually don't know what the fuck is going on and he doing everything. I think he doing everything. And I think that he went, he found her. that little bullshit story about, oh, I. 00:22:47 Speaker 3: Didn't know who she was. I've never seen, nigga, you lying. 00:22:50 Speaker 5: Every white person know who that woman is because that's all y'all was talking about for two years. 00:22:54 Speaker 4: Like, come on, you knew who that was? 00:22:55 Speaker 1: He said, oh, go ahead, go ahead. 00:22:57 Speaker 6: He was like, yeah, within the hour I knew who she was. 00:23:00 Speaker 1: Like, nigga. Yeah. 00:23:01 Speaker 6: That's worse than the Simone Biles shit. Like, come on, man. 00:23:04 Speaker 1: You lying, bro. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: But she believed it, though. 00:23:07 Speaker 6: I don't think so. Okay, genuinely, as a woman who has dated men, you are in a situation almost always where men feel like they are smarter than you. You are absolutely always. And the best way to understand and figure out who that man is is to allow him to think that he's smarter than you. Now, when you... Well, I learned that from my daddy. I learned that from my daddy. 00:23:37 Speaker 4: I'm going to play this to my music. 00:23:40 Speaker 1: Hey, this ain't for me. I'm going to let you hear from a story. 00:23:45 Speaker 6: But, like, that's the truth, though. Like, a lot of times you'll see women kind of step back and allow a man to do something, and then later on you'll see that same woman by herself, and she's able to do it more efficient than he is. Hmm. It's just one of those things where you allow a man to be a man. But I also feel like there's some manipulation in there. And she was using that manipulation. Like, he is so lost into what he is that she was able to, like, work his strings. 00:24:13 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:24:13 Speaker 6: And he didn't even know it. 00:24:14 Speaker 4: I agree with everything you said. But that motherfucker right there is lying to... Because he knew exactly who she was. As soon as she walked in the door, I don't care what, hoodie, bag, or whatever. She had glasses on. Get the fuck out of here. You mean to tell me you couldn't recognize those ears behind those fucking glasses, bro? Everybody knows who the fuck she is. And I love Nathan's line. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Of He's so good. 00:24:43 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: He got a little bit of the tism, too. 00:24:46 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:47 Speaker 5: Because he'll stay right there in it and just be staring in your face and just like. 00:24:52 Speaker 1: How? Why? 00:24:55 Speaker 4: When? And you got to come up with a new line. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: He's like, I ain't letting you out of this. No. You got to go. 00:25:04 Speaker 8: Just keep going. 00:25:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, keep going. 00:25:05 Speaker 4: He was like, I got to go, bro. 00:25:07 Speaker 7: He had to get up off of him. 00:25:09 Speaker 6: He had to get away from him. 00:25:11 Speaker 4: He was like, hey, the kids called me or whatever. He made up some bullshit to get out. But that shit was dope when he just kept him. That's when the theater was really laughing. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, like busting out laughs. 00:25:19 Speaker 4: He was saying this bullshit. Like, it's clear bullshit. Yeah, I didn't know who she was. I didn't know who she was until an hour after talking to her. So you mean to tell me. That you're having a conversation with this person. And not once did you ever ask, what's your name? By the way, my name is Brad. What is your name? 00:25:38 Speaker 8: It took an hour? 00:25:39 Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. 00:25:41 Speaker 4: You're lying ass. I think you said it. He realized that her ass is off and crazy. 00:25:47 Speaker 1: And he went, scam. 00:25:50 Speaker 4: I can scam this motherfucker. Because she done got her ass groomed. And this is sad. 00:25:55 Speaker 1: Sunny. She was already ready for me. Yep. 00:25:58 Speaker 4: And she's vulnerable. She's most vulnerable at this time and people know her, people like her, whatever. So I can flip this into something. 00:26:05 Speaker 6: So he thought. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: See, that's why I don't believe that she just lied. 00:26:10 Speaker 4: Go ahead. Go ahead. 00:26:12 Speaker 6: Well, because he didn't get no money at the end. They gave up the money that he was trying to negotiate and get. 00:26:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just from that deal, though. But see, guess what I'm saying? See, he working. 00:26:21 Speaker 3: He's just selling her name. 00:26:22 Speaker 6: Right. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: Ain't no telling what, buddy, on the billboards. 00:26:24 Speaker 6: But I don't believe that she did not know that shit. I don't believe that she did. 00:26:28 Speaker 3: I don't think she knew, man. 00:26:29 Speaker 4: She knew. 00:26:30 Speaker 8: I think she knew. 00:26:31 Speaker 5: I think dude is scamming her. I think dude was scamming her again, and I think Sonny was scamming her. 00:26:35 Speaker 1: I know. 00:26:35 Speaker 4: I agree with you there. But she knew about the documentary side deal. 00:26:38 Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. 00:26:40 Speaker 1: She just wanted to have plausible deniability. 00:26:42 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 00:26:43 Speaker 1: You know, see that in the fucking house of cards. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:26:47 Speaker 4: But where I agree with you two is that he is using her name, connections, and influence, because a lot of people in the building think she, in that space, don't think she did anything wrong. She just made up something that didn't work, and she's

being punished for it, but she really thought the shit fucking worked. That's why he's turning around and reselling a whole new company and an idea, and she's working that angle, too. We saw it. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: He is playing her. He's like, look, baby, we don't understand. This shit ain't right. You didn't do anything wrong. Why are you in there? I'm going to wait for you. 00:27:27 Speaker 1: Right. 00:27:28 Speaker 4: I'm going to wait for you when you get out, and I'm going to work this shit while you're in jail. And when you come out, everything's going to be set up for you. 00:27:33 Speaker 6: I thought Nathan made a point, though, when he was like, you know, you're pretty handsome. Like, you kind of, like, to his point, like, you can kind of, you know, move. You don't have to deal with this. Why you here? 00:27:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, like. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: He basically said that, yeah. 00:27:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, like, you don't have to hit your wagon. 00:27:50 Speaker 1: He's like, this is a choice. Yeah. This is a choice. 00:27:52 Speaker 3: He's like, you dealing with this woman. You doing this. 00:27:55 Speaker 6: You decided to, like. 00:27:56 Speaker 3: And that's how I know he's scamming. 00:27:58 Speaker 6: Wasn't his granddad? 00:28:00 Speaker 4: They rich. 00:28:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:28:01 Speaker 6: But his grandfather was an investor? 00:28:04 Speaker 3: No, they made a hotel. I don't know if his granddad was an investor. 00:28:07 Speaker 4: I can't remember what they said he did. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: His family made money from hotels. 00:28:10 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:28:11 Speaker 6: Right, but somebody in his family was on the team, I thought. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: The original team? 00:28:16 Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think he did say that's how he ended up. 00:28:20 Speaker 6: He and her were introduced or something through his grandfather who was an investor initially. And then he came on. 00:28:27 Speaker 3: He did say that when they were talking. My grandfather was an initial investor. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: You're right. You're absolutely right. Oh, man. He's been playing. 00:28:32 Speaker 3: This shit, man. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: He's been doing it. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: Wait, what did Denzel say? 00:28:35 Speaker 1: Man, y'all been playing this all day, boy. 00:28:36 Speaker 3: I've been playing this all week. 00:28:38 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I knew who she was when I walked up on her. 00:28:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had way too much control of everything that's going on. He kept cussing. He was like, every time y'all motherfuckers hear the fucking internet, don't worry. 00:28:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, time it get good, he made them leave. I got to go home now. 00:28:50 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:28:51 Speaker 7: Can we wrap this up? We want to do family time. No, nigga, we not doing family time right now. 00:28:55 Speaker 6: I think that shit kind of irritated me that they were blaming him on the Wi-Fi. Like, nigga, nah, y'all just got bad Wi-Fi. 00:29:00 Speaker 1: Like, stop. 00:29:01 Speaker 8: Well, every time you're here, it doesn't. 00:29:04 Speaker 1: We don't have these problems at night. 00:29:05 Speaker 8: Because there's less. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: People on the internet at night. Less congested. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: I love how Nathan don't even like, he don't even consider him. He's like, oh, it's not us, bro. 00:29:15 Speaker 1: Like, is it? 00:29:16 Speaker 4: It's not us, bro. 00:29:17 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. Like, I love that. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: What y'all think about the eggs? 00:29:22 Speaker 1: The eggs. 00:29:23 Speaker 3: When she was whipping the eggs having a conversation. 00:29:24 Speaker 1: Oh, he took the eggs from her? 00:29:25 Speaker 3: And he watching, lurking and just watching. 00:29:28 Speaker 1: Her whip the eggs. 00:29:28 Speaker 4: That shit was weird, bro. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: How she was whipping the eggs. 00:29:30 Speaker 1: Who whips eggs like that? 00:29:33 Speaker 6: Her or him? 00:29:34 Speaker 1: Her. She was like. 00:29:36 Speaker 6: That is why I say that bitch is pulling the strings because she knew exactly why he came over there and took that bowl from her. 00:29:43 Speaker 1: You might be right. 00:29:43 Speaker 4: I'm going to open up and listen a little bit more here. 00:29:47 Speaker 6: She was doing that shit in a way that he did not like, and she knew he did not like it. 00:29:52 Speaker 1: So why are you doing it that way? Right. 00:29:53 Speaker 6: And then when he asked about the bowl, he was like, well, she explained exactly why he came over there and got that fucking bowl. She was manipulating the fuck out of that situation. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:30:03 Speaker 6: Now, I just feel like bruh probably came into that situation thinking that he can manipulate her, but he doesn't realize what he's dealing with. 00:30:12 Speaker 1: She's the ultimate scammer. Damn, Sha, I think you right. 00:30:15 Speaker 4: She done scammed all these people, all these men out of this money, and he the next one. 00:30:20 Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all. 00:30:22 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:30:22 Speaker 8: I think they love each other. 00:30:23 Speaker 4: I know too much about this. 00:30:24 Speaker 7: Because he has money and he can invest in her product. 00:30:28 Speaker 6: But I also think she loves him. I also think she loves him. 00:30:33 Speaker 1: For what she can do for him. 00:30:34 Speaker 5: Because if she was this master manipulator, she wouldn't have been getting manipulated by Sonny like that. 00:30:39 Speaker 4: She was young. I don't know this story. That was a 40, 19-year-old relationship. 40 years old and 19 or something like that. 00:30:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, he preyed on her. 00:30:45 Speaker 6: He might have taught her to game. Like, think about what I just said. My dad taught me that. 00:30:51 Speaker 3: But he got them locked up. 00:30:54 Speaker 4: Oh. 00:30:54 Speaker 1: Yeah,

like, it was him. It was him pushing. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: Sometimes you strike out, bro. Sometimes you don't hit the game winning shot. 00:30:58 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:30:59 Speaker 4: It's just, it's a con that shit didn't work. I think his ass was in jail. But he was in there boosting her head, too. 00:31:06 Speaker 1: He did. Oh, he did? So he did. Okay. 00:31:08 Speaker 6: Did he kill himself? 00:31:09 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:31:10 Speaker 1: Let me see how he did. 00:31:11 Speaker 4: Because we saw the scene where they was like, yeah, so remember, you got to go in there, you got to do it like this, you got to move like that. 00:31:16 Speaker 1: Like, he was... He was boosting her head up. 00:31:18 Speaker 6: And she didn't like that shit, or at least she didn't like it for the cameras. Like, I guess that bitch, when she was, like, you know, being vulnerable and opening up and crying in front of people, and then she dropped that fucking tear. 00:31:29 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hell no. 00:31:31 Speaker 6: This bitch just throwed off. 00:31:34 Speaker 4: Oh, your lying ass. 00:31:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, she, man. 00:31:37 Speaker 6: She the kind of woman that'll steal $ 200, 000 from you and smile in your face. 00:31:41 Speaker 3: He didn't die here in federal prison. I read that he died. He didn't. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: So he in federal prison. Which federal, where? Yeah, which one? He in the good one. 00:31:50 Speaker 6: She was in a, what is it, medium security? 00:31:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't put them with regular folk. 00:31:57 Speaker 1: Nah. 00:31:58 Speaker 6: Not the killers and shit, because she only scammed people. 00:32:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:32:03 Speaker 6: Didn't, okay, who was, her daddy worked for Enron. Do y'all remember that part? 00:32:08 Speaker 1: Oh my God, yeah. 00:32:09 Speaker 6: When he said that shit, I was like. 00:32:11 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, did he just say that? 00:32:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, we're going to have it wrong. 00:32:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, she got it honest. He said that he was, no, he wasn't gone by that point. And her husband was in like the WeWork building, wasn't he? Yeah, he was in WeWork. Yeah. 00:32:25 Speaker 5: What'd you think about the, you said a little bit at the beginning, if you have any more, what'd you think about that style? 00:32:30 Speaker 3: Like him lurking around and just the shots and. 00:32:33 Speaker 1: It was very, that's what I'm saying, intriguing. It pulled you in. It definitely pulled you in. 00:32:38 Speaker 7: I never thought about documenting that way, you know, being actually in it. So, yeah, I thought that was an interesting way to tell a documentary. So, yeah, I liked it. 00:32:50 Speaker 5: What did y'all think about them watching the movie? She said she'd never seen the show on Hulu, and then they start watching the show together. 00:32:57 Speaker 3: Was that fake, or y'all think she was acting? I think she was acting. 00:33:03 Speaker 1: She

said she never saw it? 00:33:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said she never saw it. 00:33:05 Speaker 6: She said she never watched it. 00:33:07 Speaker 1: So how does she have such a big opinion on like. 00:33:09 Speaker 7: Well, okay, so she never watched it, but she heard people talking about it. 00:33:12 Speaker 1: She hadn't watched it until they watched it right then. But she heard people talking about the movie. Got it. 00:33:18 Speaker 5: But now, like you said, it happened later in the film, though. She had said she didn't watch it, and everybody just saw her watch it. Because it was something later when he was talking, and the text that she released or something she said on the phone or something that Billy was doing. 00:33:31 Speaker 3: He was running her Twitter. 00:33:33 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:33:34 Speaker 5: And she was like, she said she didn't watch it. And he was like, I have video. He was like, I literally have video of her watching it. Like, why would you do that? I mean, she did say she can't watch it. So maybe she's used. 00:33:47 Speaker 1: She's real tricky with the words. She is tricky with words. 00:33:50 Speaker 6: All white people are. 00:33:51 Speaker 1: Right. 00:33:52 Speaker 4: That's true. Yeah, the whole can and couldn't thing. She knows, ooh, she was lying to me. Lying like a motherfucker. You understand, like, the difference. And he even broke it down and tried to reframe it and sell it to her again. She was like, no, I just. And then Billy asked, whatever his name, you know, you know what? I know what you think. 00:34:15 Speaker 8: No, you don't. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: No, you don't. 00:34:17 Speaker 1: No, you don't. He was so offended. Yeah. Yeah, he was funny. 00:34:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:34:22 Speaker 6: That was genuinely a funny part where he was just like, I know what you. 00:34:25 Speaker 1: No, you don't. Right. Oh, shit. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: Because people say that shit all the time. 00:34:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:34:30 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:34:31 Speaker 5: What y'all think about the conversation at this point when she says she won't make a dime off this in his face? Because we hadn't figured out. So usually documentarians are the payday people that's in there. And she thinks that she ain't going to make a dime off the movie. And she tells him that. He don't say nothing. He just looked at her. No, yeah, because he said he didn't know what to actually say in that moment. They did revisit it later when he was like... But he had. 00:34:56 Speaker 6: Already had that interaction with her husband, though. 00:34:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was before that. 00:35:01 Speaker 5: That's why he was confused when she said, I ain't doing no money. So now he's looking at... I think that's when he started to feel sympathetic towards her. 00:35:07 Speaker 6: He was trying to say that bitch. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: He put on this cape. 00:35:09 Speaker 1: He did. 00:35:09 Speaker 5: He had that conversation with

the husband about the money, and he was thinking at this time, the husband doing all this and making money, and she don't know nothing about it. 00:35:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, which he is scamming her, but now I'm thinking about what you're saying. 00:35:20 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: What's that? 00:35:22 Speaker 4: Well, what she's saying is, like, she could have planted that seed in his head to ask for the money and say, look, here's what you do. I'm going to go upstairs, and I'm going to hide out. But you ask for the money, and we're going to get paid off of it. And he looks bad in this situation. It looks like he's taking advantage of her. She's starting to look like a victim. 00:35:43 Speaker 1: Yes. That's all it was. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: And that's why he started to feel sorry for her. 00:35:46 Speaker 5: And that's where you get the rest of the movie, where he's really trying to figure out, is this bitch lying to me? 00:35:50 Speaker 4: To Shia's point. She probably... He was there, what, 32, 34 days? Mm-hmm. She had enough time to work him over to and play him and get him in there and get him on her side. There's a lot of interviews and stuff we probably haven't seen. 00:36:04 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 00:36:05 Speaker 4: And they also showed... He went swimming with this motherfucker, right? 00:36:09 Speaker 1: Am I tripping? 00:36:09 Speaker 3: At the end, yeah, at the end. 00:36:10 Speaker 4: So he developed a friendship with her, and we don't know what else they was doing. 00:36:14 Speaker 6: I thought it was weird when all three of them was sitting in that bed watching that show. Like, I was just like, they got a couch. 00:36:18 Speaker 1: Way too close to each other, right? 00:36:19 Speaker 7: They had the couch? They did it on the couch, too. Because it looked like he was, like, closer than the hugger. I'm like, what is happening right now? And when they would talk, they would be, like, in each other's face. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: Like, bro, how big is he? 00:36:31 Speaker 3: Why is his house so small? 00:36:33 Speaker 7: And even the husband was sometimes like, she looks good, don't she? Like, he was just like, well, he trying to pimp her out. Like, what's going on? 00:36:38 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. But the husband was so douchey to the point where like, maybe he was playing the character too. Like, even when he goes into the Charlie Kirk shit and I was just like. 00:36:49 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 00:36:50 Speaker 4: Everybody was like, laughed. 00:36:52 Speaker 1: It was a groan. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, laughs like groan, but they were like. Everybody was like, yep, there it is. There it is. Yeah. 00:37:00 Speaker 7: You've been trying to hide it the whole movie, motherfucker. 00:37:02 Speaker 3: It came out. 00:37:04 Speaker 5: What did y'all think about, what's her name? 00:37:06 Speaker 1: Siegfried? 00:37:07 Speaker 3: What's the girl's name? 00:37:07 Speaker 6: Amanda Siegfried. 00:37:09 Speaker 5: Amanda Siegfried. What'd y'all think about the reveal here when she gets added into the movie? 00:37:13 Speaker 1: What'd y'all think? 00:37:15 Speaker 4: So she was in the Hulu joint? 00:37:16 Speaker 1: She played her in the Hulu joint. 00:37:17 Speaker 4: And he just hired her to reenact the other scenes and stuff like that? 00:37:21 Speaker 1: That was creative. 00:37:22 Speaker 4: It was great. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: Never seen nothing like it in the documentary. 00:37:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. Reenact me. 00:37:25 Speaker 6: I genuinely have. moments where I didn't know whether she was talking to him or. 00:37:30 Speaker 1: If she was acting. 00:37:32 Speaker 5: I said the same. I was like, I don't know about this idea because I can't tell if it's for real. I don't know if she's being for real when she's showing concern for this lady or all the other stuff. 00:37:41 Speaker 6: I feel like she knew. She was like, that bitch is lying. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: I thought she didn't want the husband. 00:37:49 Speaker 6: She didn't like him, but she knew that even when she calls out Nathan and she's like, why do you like her? Why do you feel sorry for her? Like, she knows she lying. That's that white woman shit. 00:38:04 Speaker 3: They get away with anything. 00:38:06 Speaker 6: Y'all, I don't know if y'all have ever had this experience, but a black woman, as a black woman working with a white woman, and y'all do the same thing, and y'all supposed to have the same education, supposed to be on par, and then they do weird shit. Like, they're very, very weird. It's very weird. and it's not necessarily like them trying to get, like, it'll feel like they're trying to get you fired, but the way they handle things is weird, and I don't know if it's the same for, like, black men and white women when they work together. I've worked with white men, and it's not been like that. 00:38:41 Speaker 1: It is like that. 00:38:42 Speaker 6: For the most part, white men tell you they don't like you from the beginning. Like, they don't tend to hide how they feel. 00:38:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, white women in corporate America do that. I see what you're saying. 00:38:51 Speaker 6: They definitely do. Throw a rock high in their hand real quick. 00:38:53 Speaker 1: Facts. 00:38:55 Speaker 5: So she won an Emmy playing this role on Hulu, Ken. Did you like it here? 00:39:00 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know she got an Emmy for that. 00:39:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that either. 00:39:04 Speaker 3: She did really good. 00:39:05 Speaker 1: I thought she was good, but I liked that she was calling out the bullshit too. They needed her. Yeah, yeah. And it was two hours too late. You know, because it was a lot of him initially. 00:39:20 Speaker 4: Now you have him kind of bouncing off somebody else, but This whole part of Lute using whether she knew about the money not knew about the money for another 40 minutes of a documentary was. 00:39:31 Speaker 1: So unnecessary yes. 00:39:34 Speaker 5: Same for you

just trying to stretch it out this is the point where I was like they ain't have enough we know the story now but he's also struggling with figuring out is he getting scammed he really was genuinely confused as to so he. 00:39:48 Speaker 4: Didn't want to give up the money Because they agreed to do the deal. Yeah. 00:39:53 Speaker 1: No, he didn't want to give it up. With her husband? Nathan. Nathan. Yeah. 00:39:58 Speaker 3: He didn't want to pay him, no, because he think it alters the integrity of it. 00:40:02 Speaker 5: I think that, plus he just, he probably just didn't want to pay him. I mean, you usually don't pay people for documentaries. Nobody gets paid for documentaries. 00:40:09 Speaker 1: What you mean? 00:40:09 Speaker 5: Like, you don't pay people to get or do a documentary about them, usually. So that's what he was speaking, because go to the next scene for the meetings. What they were speaking to is like, if you're an actor, you're getting paid to play a role in a film, then yeah, we'll pay you. But I'm documenting your life. I ain't paying you to act or do anything like that. 00:40:31 Speaker 3: So I think that's what he was standing on. 00:40:32 Speaker 1: You can get paid for your story. Yeah, the overall story. 00:40:36 Speaker 3: Like your licensure story. 00:40:37 Speaker 1: True. 00:40:38 Speaker 5: But not for appearing on that. I think he wanted it to appear in that, right? He wanted residuals. Yeah, he wanted back ends. 00:40:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. He had rights to it, is all I'm saying. Gotcha. 00:40:49 Speaker 7: Is it something that people normally do? Maybe not, but no, he definitely had rights to it. 00:40:55 Speaker 6: I definitely understand not wanting to pay him because you don't want people to be like, okay, well, they got paid for this shit. That's why they did it. But I also, like, I would wonder. 00:41:08 Speaker 6: You know, how that shook out. Because the way it shot is so, it's not defamatory. Like, it's not super defamatory. So it just, it almost feels like maybe they did get paid. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: Well, at the end, it claimed. 00:41:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said it. 00:41:20 Speaker 3: It claimed at the end that he didn't, that he turned it down. 00:41:30 Speaker 5: Was it a good idea for Siegfried and Nathan to go talk to Billy when they had this whole conversation? And this is the first time that they go talk. They're talking. 00:41:42 Speaker 1: They're on the phone. 00:41:43 Speaker 6: That was Amanda's idea. 00:41:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said I should see him. 00:41:47 Speaker 1: Talk to him about what? 00:41:48 Speaker 5: They went to go talk about the Twitter post, trolling, cursing out strangers, the AI version of her that he built. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: He showed them that. What was that for? More of a scam. 00:42:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:01 Speaker 6: When they were initially doing it, when she was going to say, I thought it was for the kids. I thought it was going to be like maybe she read to

the kids. 00:42:08 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:42:09 Speaker 6: At night or whatever. I thought that's what it was. And then to see it just sitting there, I was like, what the fuck? 00:42:14 Speaker 4: They used it for pitches and stuff like that. So even though everybody knows he's in jail, or maybe for, not going to be pitches for a product because there's no real product, but they would definitely use her audio, her lightness. 00:42:28 Speaker 1: To say certain things to investors or something, I think. 00:42:32 Speaker 4: It was really weird. 00:42:35 Speaker 6: She also gave that nigga power to him. 00:42:36 Speaker 5: I was just about to bring that up. So what y'all think about the power of attorney part? 00:42:40 Speaker 6: That was weird because I've never heard of that done without a person being, well, with them being cognitive. 00:42:47 Speaker 1: Right. 00:42:47 Speaker 6: So, like, that was just weird. 00:42:49 Speaker 7: I guess it was just, like, because she didn't have access to it, so I guess she wanted a voice still, I guess. 00:42:55 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to believe a scammer would give up power of attorney. 00:42:59 Speaker 6: That's why I said you love him. 00:43:00 Speaker 1: Mm. Mm. okay I don't. 00:43:04 Speaker 6: Think there's a difference though I don't think there's a difference between her loving him and scamming him I think it's one thing I said love is a scam no no I mean like I mean it's so much in her nature that she's she's more so she does love. 00:43:17 Speaker 4: This man more that's another extension of the scam yeah. 00:43:20 Speaker 6: The love part yeah. 00:43:21 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah but no I made sense because they still gotta push this company they still gotta push whatever product they're selling now so she needs autonomy to make decisions so I can see her giving him power of attorney to keep the play going for whatever this new hustle is. 00:43:38 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:43:39 Speaker 6: And he just doing dumb shit with it because of people. 00:43:41 Speaker 1: Out on Twitter. 00:43:42 Speaker 3: Right, Twitter accounts. He said, I got a big wig at Twitter. Yeah. 00:43:47 Speaker 1: All right, bro. 00:43:49 Speaker 5: Cool story, bro. You sent an email, dude. Just like everybody else to support. What about when he went back by himself? I thought that was one of the best scenes of the doc. when Nathan went back by himself, when it was at the WeWork office, like you said, he was really, like, calling them out. 00:44:06 Speaker 1: Oh, when he was sitting there. It was like years later. Yeah, yeah. 00:44:10 Speaker 5: He was talking about that she knows some of the deals. He was talking about he makes the posts based on her emails. He was talking about holding the power of attorney, of course, and then the Charlie Kirk stuff. 00:44:23 Speaker 7: What do we think about this scene? I thought it was a cool, okay scene. But like I said, by this time, I'm just ready for this shit to be over with. I'm just like, man, y'all are really stretching this out. But it was interesting to see how he, because I want to say, too, he was, at some point, he was just like, he hadn't had sex since she's been in prison and all that type of stuff. 00:44:42 Speaker 1: He can say 700. It'll be day 900 tomorrow. That was a lie. 00:44:49 Speaker 6: That was a lie. That was a lie. 00:44:51 Speaker 1: That was a lie. 00:44:52 Speaker 6: What did he say? He was masturbating. What was the term? 00:44:55 Speaker 1: It's like Pamela Anderson. Pamela Henderson. Yeah, Pam Anderson. 00:44:58 Speaker 3: Pamela Henderson. 00:44:59 Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it is. 00:45:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said. 00:45:02 Speaker 5: That's what he said. And that's how I know Nathan on the spectrum. He told me that I know what he was talking about. She was like, he's talking about masturbation. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: I was like, what? 00:45:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was quiet. 00:45:14 Speaker 6: He genuinely was confused. 00:45:15 Speaker 1: He was like, huh? 00:45:16 Speaker 3: So y'all don't have the villain as Billy. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: Y'all think it's Elizabeth. Yes, I do think it's Elizabeth. And I think they tried to frame him as the bad guy. He's going to walk out of this looking like the bad guy. 00:45:30 Speaker 1: When it's her. 00:45:31 Speaker 4: And whatever angle, whatever con they were trying to pull with this whole documentary, when they approached him, he was like, why the fuck do you approach. 00:45:38 Speaker 1: Me to do this? I'm not a scientist yet. Yep, is why. 00:45:42 Speaker 4: Because they probably felt like, Maybe because they, maybe they both on the spectrum and they can just do spectrum talk. And she was like, I know, I know how that shit works. So we can trick him into making him. 00:45:55 Speaker 3: That's a DuPont case. 00:45:56 Speaker 1: Spectrum talk. Wow. I might do that case. Wow. 00:46:02 Speaker 3: Can't get canceled on that. I don't know. 00:46:04 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Oh, shit. All right. 00:46:12 Speaker 3: So, did y'all feel sorry at any point in this movie for this lady? No. 00:46:15 Speaker 1: Hell no. 00:46:16 Speaker 6: Not like none. 00:46:18 Speaker 3: Not when she was in jail explaining to someone? 00:46:20 Speaker 4: No. 00:46:20 Speaker 6: She was in a medium security jail. It ain't even maximum. That bitch can have a phone and shit. 00:46:26 Speaker 4: Oh, shit, man. 00:46:27 Speaker 1: Now, fuck out of here. 00:46:28 Speaker 6: She probably get puppies like Galena. 00:46:30 Speaker 1: That's funny. 00:46:31 Speaker 7: Like, you smiling and cheesing. Your life is about to be taken away from you. Why are you smiling and cheesing and- I don't understand. 00:46:39 Speaker 6: Now I will say that last day she was falling apart. 00:46:41 Speaker 1: Right, the last day. 00:46:42 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. That shit was like, this shit real. 00:46:44 Speaker 1: It got real. 00:46:45 Speaker 8: My wife just got

not going to get me out of this. 00:46:47 Speaker 1: It got real, buddy. 00:46:48 Speaker 6: It got real. I think she was hoping that something would happen. 00:46:51 Speaker 7: What do you think was going to happen during this documentary? It's not even going to come out after you were in jail. 00:46:58 Speaker 6: How long did she get? 00:46:58 Speaker 4: She was trying to prove that she didn't do anything wrong. 00:47:01 Speaker 1: 11 years. 11 years? Yeah. 00:47:03 Speaker 6: Oh, he going to stay there? 00:47:05 Speaker 3: No. 00:47:05 Speaker 8: Hell no. 00:47:08 Speaker 6: He might be married right now. 00:47:11 Speaker 3: He definitely got a girlfriend. 00:47:12 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: One million percent. 00:47:15 Speaker 1: Jesus. Anything else from this movie? They were just weird. I thought they were weird from the jump. Like both of them. 00:47:23 Speaker 7: I was like, they move like, I don't know if that's just white people because I don't be around a lot of white people. 00:47:28 Speaker 1: So maybe, I don't know. But they seem really weird. 00:47:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were weird. She's weird. 00:47:32 Speaker 5: Like if you listen to the podcast like this, Just listening to her talk, as much as I've listened to from her, she's a weird person. 00:47:39 Speaker 1: She's really weird. 00:47:40 Speaker 6: But see, I feel like all of it was just a lesson in white privilege. 00:47:44 Speaker 1: That boy. 00:47:45 Speaker 3: That was one million percent of the thought I had. 00:47:47 Speaker 6: Because nobody black, even somebody who had graduated, who had a fucking prototype that worked, that could explain the science, could not get the kind of money that that bitch was getting. 00:47:58 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 00:47:59 Speaker 5: And that's the thing, too. She's not even locked up for the shit not working. She locked up because she took the money. They dismissed the charges for the shit that didn't work. It was charges from patients and shit that they could have charged her with. They threw all of that shit out, and they only charged her for taking the money from the people. 00:48:16 Speaker 1: One drop of blood can do all this shit. It's so crazy. crazy. 00:48:21 Speaker 3: Not can, can, could. It could. 00:48:24 Speaker 1: It's a difference. 00:48:25 Speaker 6: Mind you, when they take blood from you at the doctor, that vial be like this big. 00:48:28 Speaker 7: This shit be enough for four weeks. 00:48:31 Speaker 1: All that blood they take out. 00:48:32 Speaker 7: Sometimes they take more than it be several vials. 00:48:34 Speaker 1: What type of test you doing? What are we talking about? 00:48:38 Speaker 2: No. 00:48:39 Speaker 4: And, you know, that's just the mechanical. We didn't even get to the chemistry. The chemistry is different. So, you know, it's up to them for all of the tests to be true. You know, to make that a factual statement. But the machine itself can get to the point where the test that they want to run. Maybe. Would be everything. 00:48:57 Speaker 1: Maybe one day. 00:48:57 Speaker 8: That test could be as. 00:48:59 Speaker 6: A human or dog. 00:49:00 Speaker 1: Right. 00:49:01 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:49:02 Speaker 4: You're a lion ass. Crazy. 00:49:04 Speaker 1: Human or dog. 00:49:06 Speaker 4: And last thing I got. And that's when he shut that interview down with that damn white man. 00:49:12 Speaker 1: Man, that was too funny. That was. He was just like. Oh, yeah. 00:49:15 Speaker 6: He couldn't take it. 00:49:16 Speaker 1: Well, he was twitching. 00:49:17 Speaker 7: He could not take it. He was like, all right, all right, look, we got to shut the cameras. 00:49:21 Speaker 1: Shut the cameras. 00:49:22 Speaker 4: Hey, Nathan was having it, right? 00:49:23 Speaker 1: My man said, you ain't the director. 00:49:25 Speaker 8: What are you talking about? 00:49:26 Speaker 1: You're stopping, you're not letting me do my job. 00:49:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nathan was like the nerve. 00:49:30 Speaker 1: I fucked with him. He's standing on his shit. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: He turned that shit off. 00:49:34 Speaker 1: He did, though. 00:49:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. But that guy was, he was telling all the lies. 00:49:38 Speaker 1: He was going to let it be. He was going to let it be. Yeah. 00:49:40 Speaker 4: He was like, oh, no, you're saying way too much. 00:49:43 Speaker 6: And he was like, she didn't have a bad product. She just had this wrong and this wrong. Nigga, if all of that is wrong, it's a bad product. 00:49:51 Speaker 4: At that point, I feel like it was like, nah, you need to shut the fuck up. Like, all this shit on camera, bro. 00:49:58 Speaker 1: Like, nah. 00:49:59 Speaker 4: And you're basically confirming that this shit was a fucking scam. 00:50:02 Speaker 1: Facts. 00:50:04 Speaker 7: My last thing is, Did he have to show himself naked in the movie? 00:50:09 Speaker 3: Why did they do that? 00:50:10 Speaker 1: That made no sense. 00:50:11 Speaker 4: That was Billy. 00:50:11 Speaker 1: Nathan did that. I know what I'm saying, but we didn't need that. 00:50:14 Speaker 4: No reason at all. 00:50:14 Speaker 6: It was right. 00:50:15 Speaker 5: But he do shit like it. He does shit, Nathan. Oh, Nathan does shit like that? Yeah, he won't, when you're watching it, to be uncomfortable as possible. Like, if you watch anything else, like The Curse is the name of the other show that he did. 00:50:35 Speaker 3: He wants the viewer, anybody watching it, he wants you. 00:50:38 Speaker 5: To be like uneasy, like weirded out. 00:50:42 Speaker 4: He does that purposefully. But you have to get permission to do this. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: And do it later. 00:50:47 Speaker 1: And why? 00:50:47 Speaker 6: He was in there with the camera. He was filming him. 00:50:49 Speaker 1: That wasn't no trap, huh? 00:50:50 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, like, why? 00:50:52 Speaker 4: Oh, that wasn't a trial. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, the crew was moving. The crew was shooting him. They was shooting him. 00:50:56 Speaker 3: He was naked in there. 00:50:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you see him, he's like, and then he looks down. He's like, what? 00:51:03 Speaker 6: He had a monitor in his hand, so what he look down at? 00:51:09 Speaker 4: And they don't smile at each other. 00:51:10 Speaker 1: I don't know. It looked like you was like, hey, man, you know. 00:51:12 Speaker 6: That whole household might have got a little free. 00:51:15 Speaker 1: I know, right? Like I said, he was acting like she looks good, though. I mean, we don't know what happened with these cameras. How many days was it? 30? 00:51:22 Speaker 6: 34 days. It did when the nigga was like laying on the bed with the towel. I was like, they ain't get him no fucking covers? Like, what the fuck? 00:51:33 Speaker 8: I wasn't in no mattress on the bed. 00:51:36 Speaker 1: I wasn't in no mattress. 00:51:38 Speaker 6: And that man turned over with that goddamn towel. I was like, ain't no linen. 00:51:44 Speaker 1: Shit, man. That was wild. 00:51:46 Speaker 6: It was a lot of weird shit. 00:51:48 Speaker 1: Weird shit. You know what I'm saying? When I say weird, I'm like, bro, what? 00:51:51 Speaker 4: Why? 00:51:52 Speaker 1: It was weird to see. 00:51:54 Speaker 2: Why? 00:51:54 Speaker 1: We would have been straight. The story would have been straight without that. 00:51:56 Speaker 4: We would have been with the podcast and shit. But this was their idea? 00:51:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted to do it. 00:52:01 Speaker 5: And they wanted him to tell the story that way, man, if We appreciate y'all tapping in to the latest episode of the Frames Per Second podcast. 00:52:07 Speaker 3: We are out. 00:52:10 Speaker 6: I forgot all about the naked part. 00:52:18 Speaker 4: I tried. 00:52:20 Speaker 1: I was trying my best. I'm like, why? 00:52:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:52:30 Speaker 6: No problem. Talk about that crazy white woman. Yeah. 00:52:35 Speaker 1: And I'm glad we got you. 00:52:35 Speaker 6: She still didn't get it. 00:52:36 Speaker 1: She still didn't get it. 00:52:37 Speaker 8: She's like, did you get it now? 00:52:39 Speaker 3: No. 00:52:39 Speaker 4: Ain't no way in hell she didn't know who was on first year. 00:52:44 Speaker 1: She's lying again. 00:52:45 Speaker 4: No, I did. 00:52:46 Speaker 1: You said you haven't heard this? 00:52:47 Speaker 6: I've heard that bit before, but I've never seen it. 00:52:53 Speaker 1: She know the bit. 00:52:54 Speaker 6: She understands the bit and the joke of the bitch there's no way she didn't get it She just has to. 00:53:00 Speaker 1: Play into the lie about oh, yeah. 00:53:03 Speaker 4: I didn't get it. 00:53:05 Speaker 1: What did she say? 00:53:25 Speaker 4: That was to have him understand the part about the can-couldn't part. 00:53:31 Speaker 1: It was another part of his con in the scam.