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the net you just see him skating like, I'm supposed to be over here and it goes in. Yeah, he's one of the players I've noticed in the last couple of games where you know, if you keep trying, but if if your coach is only gonna have you out there for eight minutes, ten minutes at most, like what are we doing? there's other guys down there, Kudryatsev, Sawyer Minu that come to mind that are doing quite well down there. I mean fill the spot with someone you actually trust putting some ice time in. If he's only playing eight to ten minutes because you don't trust him, and yet for some reason you also had him on the penalty kill, although you don't like his defensive game. like that was the only one that stood out to as like a head scratcher, like then then move on. Like if you don't want the guy and you don't think he's there. He still hasn't I think he has a couple more games to play this year and until he'd have to go through waivers. So I don't know. Maybe they're pushing to put him on waivers. I don't know. Well no, they could yeah. I don't know. Well keep them up, keep them up and then maybe just a a way to remove them off the list. Well, and it's got me wondering, boys, when will Schenn dress again? Honestly. Because you're looking for a guy while you signed him so that he would come in and mentor the young guys, almost be like an extra coach. On the bench, but you can't really be an extra coach when you're sitting up eating popcorn watching the game from the rafters. Not the rafters, but you know what I mean. That being said, though, we don't know what's going on in the locker room. He could be giving advice and perspective from outside, like from above. Different kind of viewpoints rather than being on the ice. And he again, he does not have the speed he once used to have. He never really had the speed even, but he's slower. I would say, like as a as a fan support, like a supporter of of Schenn I like him. It goes two ways. You can't you can't set two messages and say bringing into set of culture and then turn around and be like, You're not playing very well. We're gonna play you because you're a good mentor on the ice. you know, he's slow, he's taken a lot of bad penalties. Yeah, some of the vets we brought in for sure this year have been the ones that have stood out the most to me. be it through like Gallagher, Schenn, Oleksiak just haven't put a good baseline performance out. and I love Gallagher and Schenn. I was really hoping for them but, they look past the expiry date a bit. Tired. but it's still good to have you can still have them. And that that kinda is the point that was banded about before the season of like, do you need good people to set the culture or do they need to be active players? Like and and there was some conversation in regards to you know, can have these guys come in and fill that spot. But I guess if they can't be in the lineup, yeah, there is gonna be an aspect of that missing from the game to game on the ice with him. I think it might be more like you were saying that it's that bit of that semi coach role. 'Cause I saw a clip just today of of Schenn on the ice practice and he was, you know, directing players, giving them, you know, feedback on it where to go, where to be. and they can get there faster than he can now. So maybe maybe they're that's actually kind of what his role is. Well, I know we've been saying it since the beginning of the season, but we wouldn't be surprised if at the end of his contract he just goes from lacing up the skates to walking into an office and helping out the organization in some way. What if we see him as a defensive coordinator? Yeah. player development, whatever yes, essentially we're all agreeing that they're like whatever the role is, I do see that avenue for him to kinda hang the skates up and button up a a shirt and go in suit instead of jersey. But And there's value to be had in that. I think he still has that experience and he's young enough that he can continue to be That mentor on the ice that it's worthwhile. Well, he has like a uniqueness to his career about him being a very high pick that was first like gonna be a number one D man, gonna do this, and then he actually played his way out of the league to the A and had to change and evolve his game continuously to stay relevant and then he made it back and he's won cups and it's like it's a really cool perspective to have in that because most of the people that you're drafting in almost all the rounds of the draft, especially the first three or four, these guys are like top six players on their team. They've always been one of the better players on their team. They're used to winning. They're used to like, and then they come here and it's like, okay, regardless of you being a 23rd or 20th pick overall or 16th, like if it doesn't work, you have to find out what your role is going to be in the NHL. And it might not be one that you're used to being the guy on your team. So Yeah, absolutely. He'll get back in there, I'm sure. we've had a few I mean, we haven't won since against the Ducks. last week. There's still been some good performances and plays that we've definitely seen especially from Petey. that's just I just wanted to lead into that The work he did on that goal for setting up O'Connor. Did you want to go with That was just beautiful. It was like one of the first ones I've seen this year. Besides, the shot he had where he just walked in and and kept battling and kept taking the puck back and kept the play alive and then blocked it from getting shot out of zone and made it like it's just what he's doing is elite, but he's doing it on a at this moment historically bad team. And he is one of the players leading the league in shots blocked. He's got hits up there, although he's not leading anymore like he was, but he's also on pace for 90 points. And that's just a really awesome thing to see. Well, and he's taken the most face-offs in the NHL as well. He leads

the league in face-offs taken. And you know what? Tonight I'm pretty sure he was on a positive side for the number of wins. 10 for 12 at what at one point or another. That's what I heard. Yeah. Like so he's he's improved his all around game. And now that the points have come back, it's it's just great to see he's back to being elite and he's still getting better. So well that's that's the positive thing is like I don't like I think everybody was expecting like snap he's gonna be back and it's gonna be boom boom boom all you know, the way he was right away. I think it's just gonna be a slow build up and he might even be better. Than when he would I agree. He has to like he's already shown that he's better. He's evolved his game though. So they're they're all saying that he's is he back? But I don't think back was gonna be an option. I think it's gonna be better than he was. He's turning into this magnificent two way player that finds where he can confidently control the puck and make those plays. Who picked him for Selkie this year? One of you guys did. Adrian. Nice. That's a good pick. Yeah, I think one of the things to note as well is when he had the highest point seasons he had, he was doing a hybrid wing role with JT Miller. So some of that responsibility for face offs, for defensive zone, for some of the structure of the ice, he was a centerman, but sorry, he was a winger and then certain circumstances he was the center. he's doing on his own and it's just Yeah, I I think I called that in the beginning of the season too. I said, I don't think he'll be back to the player he was. I think he'll be better. He's grown and worked in his down points in offensive production. He's worked on other aspects of his game. and it's good to see. He's got some bite in his game. Did did we talk about his Halloween costume or that was hilarious. Mass You know what that made me think of? It made me think of when it came out that Luango was strombone. yes. Like, he has some personality. He is funny. His wife is hilarious on On TikTok, she posts that video. and all of a sudden he's standing there in a little what is it? Red? No, it's Cindy Lou Hu. Cindy Lou Who, yeah. that's that's it's wonderful to have that kind of contrast. And again, I think it also makes him look a little bit more like everybody else, right? It's that contrast of the partner he's with that really kind of shows a little bit more of his humanity, I guess. Because you don't really see a huge amount of that expression. When he's on the ice. Well he's very impressed, isn't it? No, I know. But I think that might just be his face, which is okay. again, everybody has that kind of contract. But it was it was adorable. That's good to know he's got support. Well, it's funny on a personal level, with everything he's had to go through and the amount of yeah, spotlight that's been on him and the pressure and the whole focus point of everything bad has been f funneled down to him. So like and he's the only

remaining one that we can point a finger at now that's even on the team. So like It's nice to know he's got some support there and he's he's turning it around. It's just good to see. I'd rather that than him have another down year and the Canucks trade him while retaining or do something and it's just better I it's better to watch the player we gotta see and get excited about. The reason I've got jerseys and pictures up of him, it's to see that player the way he was, 'cause he was top of the league elite when he was on his game. A hundred percent. Absolutely. And did you see how he's turning into this playmaker that's like Even making Brock look better. He's pitching in on a lot of his plays. It's just nice to see them play together again. Yes. Yeah. It's after Brock came out and made the comments, it was something that I think we talked about either on or off the air, but it's like, if you're gonna call him out, it's not like Brock was having a great season, but he stepped it up too. And you know, I like that. Like, here's your your three veteran guys and the guys that have performed in a top line or six role with DeBrusk and Boeser. And it's like, here you guys go out and set the set the pace, show the way and And Boeser, even scoring tonight versus the Jets. and you've just seen them kind of contribute more and more, which is good to see. So how about Quillan? I we said we mentioned earlier Quillan it, but that's the new that's the new line. Well done. just battling on the boards so hard. Also was it two fights against the ducks? I know, yeah. And Quillan in the name of decent where I was gonna go with that was the good players are still gonna find ways to contribute and be good. And sure, it was six two tonight, but it was gonna be six one, and then Boeser walked out from the boards and just tapped that one in thanks to a nice feed from J. Quillan. Well, like you were mentioning too, he had two man coverage and he managed to get it off the boards to him. Yeah, that's impressive. Well, I I like the fact that when we moved an Raty away, Ratu we had a player that played a way we wanted him to. And we had a role that we wanted him to be in. And it seems like even though like myself included, some the fans, it's like, man, it seems like he puts up numbers. He's doing this, but you know, three coaches have kind of been like, No. And so it's the difference of again, now that we've established how Vancouver wants to play hockey. It's fast, it's hard, it's hitting, it's relentless. And you now see them identify a player to play the way they want. And he fit in a role. One of the things I noticed right away was like that's a guy that is playing the role he's supposed to be in. He's hard on the body, he hits, he's tenacious when he's fighting for the puck. and he's got speed, and it's like, okay, well, like now we got a player in that role. So it is cool to see that when your team has a direction and a s and a way they want to play and a way that they Vancouver hockey should be done, they can pick players and bring them in. And already I think the returns from Quillan, it's like maybe more potential than Raty and what he could have done and produced, but Quillan has a role and it's like, okay, well, if he continues building off this, you know, you move Drew O'Connor, Quillan is a guy that looks like he can step in and fill that role. It really seems like he was the target of that trade altogether. He was. Yeah, they said he was the target, the main one they want to back. Great. Any other comments from some recent games or should we move into more general talk? I mean the Sharks game. I still love that Karlsson goal, that patience. that was beautiful. Yeah, you know, like I again, I'm partial to him for different reasons, but Is he your son? Yeah. He he just had the patience, the wherewithal to drag it out, get him to commit, drop down and pick his spot and put it away. You didn't answer the question if he's your son or not. You kinda sidestep that. Well, let's move along. Can you get reverse support from your kid? I mean, I'll only other thing of note, it's hard to be positive about it, but with the Leafs game, Lankinen is is he's got the yips Like he's gotta figure out some sort of base level 'cause you can't put him in and and win a game. Well and people keep saying it's like, we gotta get rid of It's like, okay, well, you can't send down. You can't buy out. You can't trade You can't trade someone no one wants. Exactly. So there you the only thing that they're waiting on is Demko. And that's and that's even a big if in its self I mean I But even then what do you do with them? That doesn't solve it 'cause you can't put him down and you can't trade No, no, you well you got you can have three goalies. So you're running three goalies. Yeah. But I'm just saying it gives you because they can't run our good guy Levi there. Yeah Levy. moving I was gonna just say just tin foiled hat for a moment here. What if he turns it around? What if this is all a massive ploy for him to just kind of sink it down? There's some there's some ploy he is committed he's so into it. Daniel J. Lewis was in games of York. Here's the thing. I'm just looking at the way that some of those shots, it seems like he's squared up. And maybe his glove hand or his blocker, just a hair slow. Have we been mispronouncing his name all this time? Is it Kevin Tankinnen? Yeah. Nice. It is. He's commanding it. He's committed to the rebuild. I just I I don't know. I've got a feeling that there there could be a couple games in the future that all of a sudden things kind of just turn on that edge of the knife. But I think the the whole theme of this team this year is playing it. Through it, playing it out. Yes. Playing to the point until something changes. And I think it's gonna be the same with Lankinen it's like eventually they're gonna put him in. Like he can't stay this terrible forever. Well, he hasn't always been this bad. So no, yeah,

you gotta give him a you're gonna play him. I mean, till the end of this year, and then if he can't rebuild it this year and you can't find any way of moving forward is an amical decision of like Not any player's gonna terminate that contract. So he's getting he's getting paid. He's not terminating that. but next year the no movement's gone and you can say, Okay, well, we're gonna put you down there because I like Merilainen and I I really like what he's done. but it was brought up today, it was Halford and Brough show and I was just the discussion of like, what would you do? And he's like, Well, teams are gonna want a goalie, he's young, he's good. Like you picked him up off waivers. You could get an asset for Meralainen I heard that as well. And I was like Yeah, that makes sense 'cause as a fan base, we shouldn't be getting too attached to these players that aren't core players of a rebuild. So unless you got a guy say a Novotny or a Malholtra or Rogowski or one of those guys comes up and Cootes and starts lighting it up, then those are guys that you're like, Okay, these are future pillars of the team. But Merileinen it's like he's not absolutely prime Demko good. He's a good goalie. The thing is though, goalies never really give that much of return. You're not gonna get a second or first overall pick for a goalie. Like what it might be a player that you're looking at too, though. We're in a weird spot right now. Third pick, team desperate for some and he puts up the number like he's been doing this year and he puts up on on this bad of a team, a team in the playoffs, like, man, our guy went down or something like this. We need someone that can come and play. Like that's a good team in front of him. Think think of it this way. Kevin Bieksa was picked a hundred and fifty first overall. What round is that? Like third round? Fourth round? Something like that? Fourth or fifth? For exactly. That's what I'm saying. So like even if it's a later pick, like there's diamonds out there. There's diamonds in the rough all the time. It's just about having as many picks as you can so that you can have as many lottery tickets as you can to hopefully get lucky. Back to the picks are power And and to the same point, like we found a goalie like this off waivers. So did Carolina last year when they won the cup. So did a couple other teams. there you go. We're gonna win the cup. I knew you like this. as great as he's been, he hasn't been elite, you need to rebuild around him and make him part of the team. So if it's an asset and the price comes up, you just gotta be accepting of human tonight, unfortunately. Yeah, but we'll have to see is so many intangibles with goaltending. Like, does Demko come back? If he does, how is he playing? 'Cause if he comes back and gets injured or can't stay together, then you kinda need Lankinen still even if he's not like yeah, it's most of the comments when we posted that about like is Demko gonna play again, we're all essentially he's done. He's not coming back. Or if he does, he'll play like ten minutes and then he'll break his knee knee or something. And I don't think that's true. They're calling it a Dem KO. Ooh, that's good. Yikes. I don't think he's knocked out. I can't press a button to that one, I'm sorry. That burned too hard. Yeah. No, I want nothing but the best. And I actually we are a positive Canucks fan podcast. So I wanna stay on the positive side about this and I wanna think positively about Demko that he's positively gonna come back in a positive way and have positive play and have a positive attitude. Yeah. Are you positive about that? I'm a little unsure actually. Positive that it's realistic that it could happen. Yeah. I would say I'm hopeful. I don't know if I'm positive. No, no, I yeah. I I think everybody knows what I'm trying to get across here. But I still feel like we're gonna see some Blankinen come back. I just have faith. I I feel it in a few games. Just watch out for it. Yeah, but when this play is stanking in, we be tanking in. I mean, I had a feeling that Gallagher was going to score tonight. I really want him to get a goal. Me too. After Shorthouse said he still is waiting to get his first point as a Canuck I'm like, man, Galley. Like I was like, maybe it's tonight. Usually when Shorthouse announces something like that, that player usually scores. Prime initiative. Yeah, but it didn't unfortunately didn't happen. And you know what? I think it's one of those ones you're gonna see and it's gonna be like one of those moments that you bond about in a rebuild where when he gets his goal, I bet you the the guys on the bench lose it. It's like when Curtis Douglas scored last year. Yeah. And the guys are just gonna love it for him and yeah, and you're gonna build off those moments. I think other than that, I was gonna point out, it was nice to see Buium last game. Yeah. Buium Yeah, we bezeev He the coach bezeeved in him because he put him up. He was back in the 23, 24 minutes. not the Jets game I haven't seen that, but I believe it was a Leafs game. And so it's nice to see him get put back out there and get more shots at it. He's kind of working his way back up step by step, and that's good to see. Yeah. Let's take a step around the league, and there's a bunch of news to cover. The obviously the biggest bombshell that's dropped. Is Kucharov requesting a trade on Friday and Daniel shared a a list that he saw of all the teams he thinks he's open to. Yeah, and they're all Canadian, of course. It's hundred percent factual and not fake news at all. And money doesn't matter to him. That sourced was Facebook right? Yeah, it's basic I did my own research. Okay. I did my own research, yeah. Yeah, that's it's a good tombstone marker. so you can you can make AI pump out any fact you want. You just populate Facebook with it and they know It's crazy though, his his agent Danny Millions was saying that apparently and they had a good relationship. Is that his

actual name? No, it's Dan Milstein, but his nickname's Danny Millions. 'cause he gets paid so much. Yes. So anyways, Danny Millions was saying that I don't know what happened, but apparently like they've had such a good relationship for all these years. And apparently it just went south. Like it just and it's like he's like that nope, there's no way we can recover from this. Like it's not the Relationship is broken. It's like, man, what would happen in Something broke down so bad that he's saying it is the you can no longer cross that bridge. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, Yeah, I heard that same thing and I was like, Man, something something happened. And all all that's been reported that's been like slightly confirmed 'cause it's been reported across different sites is that it came down to money. I think they offered him two to three years at thirteen mil and then they upped it to fifteen mil was And then but he he wanted a six year deal at max salary cap, which is he has a pretty strong negotiating point given that he's the reigning MVP. But at the same time, how old is he now? He's a thirty four thirty four. Yeah. You you can't give a thirty four year old a six year contract. Twenty one million dollars a year till you're forty. I'd like that too, but yeah, I think like I said in the interview, it was it was funny when he notes it's not about money, it's about respect. And I'm like, that just sounds like you said the same thing twice. I was like, it's not about money, but it's about money. Because I feel like I'm disrespected when you don't offer me lots of money. So yeah. Lots of money and lots of time. That's a hard one. Like, he's the best winger in the game. So So where does he end up then? Where who Vancouver for sure. Not a chance. I appreciate that you're positive, but yeah. That's delusional. He might be the one person that can help Marco Rossi get off his Schneid right now. Just be like Here you go. Use Kucherov if you can't realize. I heard Montreal is like and this is like for real. For real's Montreal's a strong candidate. Because apparently he has a relationship with Marty Saint Louis. I also heard oilers They can't where they can afford him. Is a rental maybe? Maybe. What are you paying that Tampa's even gonna want. That's I don't know if he might heard was the wild. That's wild. Like Kucherov and and Kabrizov Kaprizov thank you. That's We don't need centers. Centers? You don't need centers. Erikksson Ek He can he can get the puck to those guys. I could get the I think Dan, you could s lace up first line center for the wild in between Kucherov and Kaprizov and have a night. I think I'd be yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just make sure you get waved out of every face off so that they can come take step one, look to the left. Is he open? No. Look right. Is he open? Yes. Pass puck. Here we go. Rinse, repeat. Second assist, please. Ref, that was the second assist. Yeah. A any other teams on the list of where he might go, guys? Anybody? No? I think that the if he does get traded and somehow Brisebois isn't able to talk him off the cliff, he's gonna go west. I don't think he'll I don't think they'll keep him in the east. No. 'Cause I could see maybe Carolina wanting to pick him up. Well, everyone's gonna want to pick him up. But why would they do that? That's one of their It's about fit and cap space and assets. Yeah, that's what Do you think he looks pretty fit? That's what Elliot Friedman was talking about today on 32 Thoughts. He was saying that fit is going to be just as important to Kucherov as time and money. So he was saying what did he say? He said he thought Detroit would have a chance, even though they're in shambles, but that he liked to play with switch out with Larkin. Does he really want to play Dylan Larkin? Yeah. Maybe that would change Larkin's mind. Ugh, I don't know. Yeah. No, no, no. I'll play now. If I was if I was gonna bet, honestly, I'd I'd I would bet that they don't move him. I think plays it out. They just make him respect his contract and honor it. You're playing the end out just because you didn't get the deal you wanted. That doesn't mean we have to trade you. I think he's gonna walk. They're doing well. They're a competitive team in the league. I think, especially because they're a veteran laden team, they haven't accrued a lot of picks and prospects coming up. They've moved them for players to continuously stay. You've got guys like Hedman you have guys like Vasileski that are getting older, Kucharov's older, a lot of their core is aged out, they've moved on from Stamkos I wouldn't be surprised to see him do the same thing and be like, Look, we'll end the season, but you're sticking with us because there there's no one out there they're gonna trade him for that's gonna make them a better team. He is the my opinion, the best winger to play in the game right now. Well, I I'd like to hear from some Tampa Bay fans if you guys wanna chime in in the comments, let us know what you think are gonna hap what's gonna happen with How widely do you feel like this podcast is distributed? sorry. Are you talking about the number one podcast in Sierra Leone? This podcast? Yeah, come on, man. It's true. There's no Tampa fans in Sierra Leone, though, I don't think. So so say we reach farther than the Tampa fans even do. Say say that he goes right to the end and then he goes to free agency. Right? He's getting bank. Where? Well where do you think he's going? Where they can afford him. This is where But the thing fit. Where do you think he would fit? This is where we find out the whole difference between respect. And money, and if they're the same, because I think a team like Columbus would offer him max contract as long as he would want with max term. Certain teams would offer just to get in their Seattle, man, we need a star, please, we'll pay you whatever. And if he goes there, then respect is literally just money. And if he chooses to go somewhere else, we'll see. Like

if he goes to Dallas, then takes a pay cut. Can you imagine with the tax saving on the state tax? But yeah. You know what the ultimate middle finger to Tampa? He signs with Florida. Florida. The Panthers. Boo. I would be mad. So let's hear your guys' opinion out there on the interweb. What do you guys what do you guys think? Where do you think he ends up? Does he stay all year or do you think he gets traded? Or if he goes to free agency, what team do you think he ends up on? We can't wait to find out what you have to say. a few other players that are on the market. the Capitals have given their I'm gonna see you pronounce this. First name, get it out of the way. It's easy. Stud player, young guy, Miroshnichenko. Ivan Miroshenko. See, there's that Russian accent. I knew you had it. There's so many H's and N's and C's in there. Yep. they've given him and his agent permission to seek a deal, and apparently the Canucks are interested. would you want to go for that? Marishino Cherry. That's what that made me think of. Okay, you are Don Cherry. Yeah, that's Mirishino Cherry guy. Yeah, that met kid that Ivan Macchiato. Yeah. I funny enough, the comparison and you guys are gonna be like, of course you'd bring it up, but the comparison is he plays a game like Podkolzin. and they also think he would pull is developing at that rate. But any team that has that kind of player is gonna be like, Well, Podkolzin's working out, pay us a first. So you remember how you said like I could play between Kaprizov Kucherov it'd like no big deal, right? Look to my right, there and left my left, right. Okay, Podkolzin. look to my right. there's Draisaitl look to my left. there's McDavid, modern-day Wayne Gretzky. David good at hockey. man. So I mean, think he's a little inflated. Like I love 37 points in 14 games or something for McDavid. I love pods, but I think he's a little inflated. I mean how could you not be? That's fine. I mean, you'd argue you can make the same argument of ex Alexander Burrows. Was he better for playing with the Sedins? Absolutely. But he still had chemistry to play with Again. I don't know. But but put your stick on the ice, we will bounce it off it into the net. We've also seen Erikksson. We've also seen other players play with the Sedins and not have success. Exactly. So that's proof. It's part of both. No, no, I'm right. Anyway, sorry. I didn't mean to take away from That's fine. You are right. I'm more right though. So all right, all right. And the the interesting note was that the Capitals Do want to trade him anywhere in the East. Yeah. if you know what you got on a player but you don't have room for I can see that. I I love it, but it depends what they want is a re that always like I'm not gett it's apparently they're asking for a first round pick. I'm like, no for Marashino? For there's no way we give up a first round pick. They're a team that's gonna kinda in the win now mode. That's it that's the kind of thing where like I would if they

want to take a player well no, they just they have a good team put forward. They they want players. I don't think they're gonna want more picks, right? They wanna take what they have and go forward with it. So let's see. I mean it's also part and parcel. This is a they want to do one final push for Ovie and it's his last year. Well, of course they want to try that. Yeah, they're also in on Larkin they're one of the teams, but he they wanted one of the the brothers, the Potas brothers, and apparently that's where Washington said no, and I'm like, Fair enough. Man, what if Kucherov went there? I don't know if they have the room, but it would work. They have they could make the room. That would be pretty awesome. True. You heard it here first, folks. Yeah. I bet he'd be Russian to get up there. I love it. I love it. another one interesting rumblings was Roman Josi maybe headed to Toronto. Yeah, there so like out of the blue over this week, a lot of talk out of Predators like Roman Josi being available. And it was like, man, okay, maybe misses but then as of yesterday when I put that note in, it had heated up to like Roman Josi is part of this package. Talks are advanced between Nashville and Toronto. Wow. As to getting getting a guy like Josi in so Toronto's been looking for that replacement for Tanev all year. They've been looking to try to find a top D man. I've heard that many times on the Yeah, because he's injured quite often again. Not not to get rid of him, but just that he's not available. I s I thought Stetcher was stepping up quite a bit too, though, I thought for them. Stetcher's not on the same level. We love Stetcher, but he's not. Yeah. It was just from Blueger Dakota Joshua to Stetcher to OEL to Tanev It was just like, Yeah. Maybe they want Lankinen in because we touched them first. there you go. They can have They can have they could literally just have Yep. Bag of pucks. Thank you. Here you go. Like we're sending a bag of pucks too. yeah, along with a gratuity. A sweetener. I think that's all we have for league news. Okay, let's do the let's do this month in Canuck's history, because this is an interesting one. if you listen to 32 Thoughts, you would have already heard this. They did an interview with Brian Burke and his son Patrick Burke, which I thought was super interesting. And during one of the things that he shared, which I just want to share because it's this great story. it fits into that what if storyline of What if the Canucks had gotten this player at this time? But you never find out this stuff when it's happening because there's a media ban or something. or it's just not allowed to be talked about. But it's fascinating. So this was a story that Patrick shared about his dad and Dave Nonis negotiating for Mika Kiprusoff in November of 2003. when we at the time had three goalies that played for us that year, and I have the stats here. We had Dan Cloutier Alex Auld and Johann Hedberg. And let me just read this to you because it's it's quite interesting. If I remember right, because I was sitting next to them at the table, Nonis was trying to pull together a conditional pick, which at the time, and it's very common now, teams didn't do it that much. If the guy plays X number of games or his goals against is this, or we make the playoffs, it goes from a third to a second or whatever it was. And he says that the deal was just getting too convoluted because this was too new of a concept. So that's actually like pretty modern thinking for Nonis at the time to try to put this kind of a trade together, or from San Jose. And He said, I remember Kiprusoff being on the table in Vancouver and years of goaltending problems in Vancouver that might have been solved. at the time he was unknown and it was a big swing. But he said he remembered sitting there listening to the negotiation and two years later going, yeah, that would have been nice. but here's some additional information which might be a little tear inducing for 2003 Canucks fans. the goalies that we had Alex Auld, his record was two two and two with a two six goals against average. Dan Cloutier was thirty-three, twenty-one and six with a two point two seven goals against average. Not too bad. and Johan Hedberg was eight, six and two with a two point five one goals against average. But Kiprusoff, when he went to Calgary, he was twenty-four and ten with a goals against average of one point seven and a save percentage of nine thirty-three. And he re had four shutouts that season. So it's interesting. What if? Parallel universe, we would have had That would have been beautiful. I was doing the math, and this is not positive, but I was doing the math in my head, and I was like, that's only point eight th eight. If you combine all the goalies, goals against averages, that's only point eight higher than Lankinen's so anyway, there you have it. This moment in Canuck's history. Let's go back to a few more other Canucks notes. Uplifting stories. Let's let's keep going our way. Come on, let's guys. Jeremy, did you want to go over some upcoming free agents? Yeah, sure. So I've got a bit of a list here of upcoming free agents, both UFA and RFA. So I'll start with the UFAs. so we've got Brendan Gallagher, Philip Chytil Drew O'Connor, Paul. Kata. Cotter And Luke Schenn are all our UFAs right now. And then RFAs are Lekkermaki Liam Ohgren, Elias Petterson, the defenseman. Ilias Defenderson. That's right. And Levi Merlin or Merilainen and Levi. That's right. Merlin. Yeah. Magician. That's right. So that's that's our list of upcoming free agents. And I guess my big question is. To you guys, who do you think that we're gonna see move first? I I have a feeling we're gonna have one of these guys move before we lose them to free agency. So who do you think out of this list we're gonna see move? Well, looking at that list, I'm gonna say Gallagher and Schenn probably last year in the league, or most likely. Philip Chytil not probably re

signing with us. That's health related. So I'm not sure where that goes. Drew Connor Cotter, most likely trade bait. So I got there's some interesting ones on there as far as re signing. Like Lekkerimaki having a a blow up year right now. Liam Ohgren scoring again tonight would be up to seven if they didn't take away his good goal. so he's tied with Lekkerimaki for leading the team with goals right now at six each. And then you've got at Elias Defenderson who's having quite a year. Well those three are gonna are working on some good pay contracts, I think. I'll tell you who's gonna move first is probably Levi. Yeah. He's probably gonna move first and trade for picks. I mean, like you said, building value and picks are power. So I would go with Drew O'Connor. Yeah, I was gonna say he probably has the most I didn't even see him on that list. Yeah. I think DOC's probably gotta step his game up going forward a bit if we want, you know, premium premium massive return. But I think Cotter and and O'Connor do Definitely have have kept producing at a level that will warrant some return. yeah, Cotta could. Yeah. Yeah, I'd have to agree. I feel I believe it's between those two. It's O'Connor or Cotta. It's gotta be one of those two, I think. And it'll be at the time. I think right now Cotta looks a bit better than O'Connor, but who knows at the point of where they're at when they want to move or what a team's looking for. And different players too. Yeah. Drew O'Connor is a bigger physical player, whereas Paul Cotter He's got more points, but I don't think he plays the same style of game as as Drew O'Connor. But Cotter has that pedigree though, because he's been on was he on Vegas when they won the cup? I don't know if they when they won the cup, but he was on Vegas. I I don't know. I think the biggest thing is it's like it's still really early in the season. it's actually not getting that early. It's not as early as you think anymore. And I'm sure they're gonna if they continue to slide, like they're gonna wanna make a move. I think bring me this list again after Christmas. Sure. I don't think you you'll adjust the list of what who's left. I don't I don't think you make a move. Well, your stocks down on a couple of these guys. I think you wait. Those are players, in my opinion, you're gonna get more at the trade deadline. Well, that's what I'm saying. Nobody's gonna move before Christmas. No, no, no. Trade trade trade deadline for sure. And honestly, I think as much as you know, I to play devil's advocate and talk about Levi having, you know, Meralainen and having that. value we could trade him for. you still have to have someone playing net. And right now we have Lankinen forcefully he's not going anywhere. Demko is a question mark come back, not coming back. A positively questioned mark. It is positively question marked, yeah. And then I mean we've seen what Tolopilo has to offer, which is why we sent him down and put him on waivers and grab Meralainen So

obviously they don't have a guy that they're like chomping at the bit to get up. So I think Merilainen is kinda someone we kinda need at this point. Right now, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. After Christmas, we'll get a lot better idea of where things stand. Fair enough. I think we know where things are gonna be. We're gonna be we can predict bad. Yeah, we are currently taking shovels to dig ourselves out of a hole. Yeah. So and again, I'll I'll I'll obviously throw it out to you guys too, out in internet land. To you, the people. let us know what you think if there's a UFA or RFA that is gonna move before Christmas or after Christmas or trade deadline. What do you think? ideally we trade all of those UFAs and sign all of the RFAs. That'd be great, but is it gonna be factual? It's hard to say. Are we gonna keep I'm saying ideally. I'd be seeing if anyone's really 'cause he's a really good player. But we'd be willing to give him up for the right offer and Oleksiak. 'Cause he's currently playing ten minutes of game right now too. We need to yeah getting paid five million a year. Yeah. I would retain on that one. Did someone take him for two point five? I like I said, I just I this it's only two years. There's two guys down there doing a great job. I'd like to you know, if if you don't want to play the guy, then let's get let's get one of those guys in. And then we just need to make space in order for those guys to come up. So That's gonna be the trick. I'm happy we didn't get Kiprusoff 'cause we would have never gotten the Luongo It's a storyline we'll never know. Would you then have just right now be a massive Kipper fan? No. Yeah. No. That's the way alternate timelines go. You would be a Kiprusoff fan. No. Your kipper your kipper soft on him? No. No. The Canucks and every team in the league released their hometown remix jerseys this week. some good, some very boring. The reaction from the players walking in, I think, was my favorite part of seeing. Some of them were clearly stoked. Like the Ducks jersey is amazing. And apparently there's a petition now to make that their third jersey. yeah, go back to the old school Mighty Ducks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, a couple other Highlights like any others that stick out to you? Not really. For the wrong reasons. The Florida one. my god. That's That one doesn't beat me as much. the Pittsburgh one is terrible. Yeah. I thought the worst one in my opinion was Boston. The the Pooh Brown. And then it just looks like corn in the middle is where the jersey. It just looks terrible to me. Was it Cole Caulfield who walked in For the Montreal one and he just couldn't hide his disgust. I don't like it's one of my least favorite jerseys too. Yeah, it's pretty good. The all whited out Montreal Canadian jersey. And then some of them I gotta say, how lazy it is when the team just like makes a jersey and they take their logo and puts it in a circle with some lettering in it, and they're like, There we go. Yeah, like there's like a handful of teams that did that. I'm like, that's the Flames went for the the hunger route. They they could call me call them the Hunger Flames because they've got a waffle on their Calgary Flame C. Did you see that? It's supposed to be the texture of the saddle dome roof, but it just looks like someone took a a waffle off of the iron waffle iron and just cut out a C. I just assume with all the Jersey ads that Waffle House had sponsored them, and I was like, okay. That's clearly paying homage to our green men that were next to the penalty box throwing the waffles at the players on the bench. Yes, clearly. I think, yeah, that's that's probably what it is. But how about the Canucks one though? I feel like you know, as a designer. I appreciate the details they put into it. They did that detailing on the sleeve, which is supposed to be the sky line of of the city at night. At night, which is cool. I appreciated that it was kind of more minimal. it sure isn't like a Florida one that's gonna like pop your eyeballs out. But I think when they wear them with that matte black helmet and the matte uniform, it's gonna look pretty sharp. No, I I I'm a fan. I know it's kind of a split. A lot of people are like, This is terrible, this is horrible. I'm like Yeah, see it on him first. And when I saw Boeser throw it on, sorry, like like when the Canucks went with the the shiny metallic blue helmets that they were gonna wear a couple times, they wore it once and they never saw the light of day again. Yeah, we saw him on the team and that's something that looked good in a in a boardroom and then we saw him on, and everyone was like, ooh. But that's what I mean. When you see Boeser when we saw Boeser put it on, like the whole thing, it looks really sharp. And the matte like yeah, they almost look black, the navy, Helmets. Obviously matte looks way better than the glossy, shiny Vegas Knights. I'd have to say the accessories almost outshine the jersey, in my opinion. So you got the gloves with the lettering on them and the helmet. I don't know. I I think I like those more than the jersey. Not that I'm saying that the jersey's bad. I I don't mind it, but it's not it's not my favorite. The color choice being a nod to the West Coast Express. When I saw the the second leaked ones, then they looked more like a redone version of the West Coast Express. I was like, that's pretty cool. But at that point, maybe bring back the West Coast Express for a third Jersey one year or something. I don't mind them again, we'll see what they look like on there. For me, it's like bring back the flying V, but in a different color, like it with black and I don't know. Yeah, make it uglier. It should make the V ugly. the mustard yellow one. Yeah, it's ugly. How other but there's the black one. How dare you? So you can't see it, but it's the one that's the mustard yellow Flying V, but I'm talking about the ones that were black. That's not a flying V either, bro. is that

the that's a yellow skate? It it's okay, nevermind. It's yellow skate. Anyways, I saw the top there. It looked like that. What do I know about Canucks? I'm just here a fan, okay? These are podcast by fans, for fans. Either way, as long as we don't perform how Montreal did when they wore their hometown jerseys, I'd be okay with that. I feel like that was a protest by the players. We have to wear these, we're gonna play like garbage. For the last two minutes. That was beautiful. That was beautiful. And that was the first time in NHL history too, hey? Yeah. What was it? One win and it was over ten thousand losses in that situation. So that's and you're like, yeah, it's doable. And I'm like, So you say it there's a chance. That's like buying a lottery ticket losing, and then you buy the next one. You're so I'm due. Exactly. What would you have preferred to see if you had a choice of what they did for a jersey? Well, I already said, I want to see a reiteration of the flying V. I think it could look good if it was what this is. Light magenta. I mean, even soft lavender. Well, no, even the even the hockey fights cancer. I I'm Joey, I'm colorblind, so for me, it's like primary colors. If you start using other names for colors on a certain listen, you guys asked, and I'm trying to explain, okay. I would do like West Coast Express colors with the flying V. Okay. Like the full I would do like almost dark like the maroon not maroon, sorry, the navy blue, almost black for the main. And then for the V, you have like the silver and the maroon. It could look good, but it's just in my head I can't see it. So I don't know. Maybe it'd be terrible. I love another stick in the ring jersey. Boo. I mean not the blue one they did with, you know, the the Hughes era there where it was like just the thicker green stripes and I like that as well, but like Doing another alternation alternate of the white jersey would be or change the color scheme up or something. I don't know. They've they've always been trying to do that, I've heard it proposed and we haven't seen it, although I think it's an Abbotsford, but a Johnny Canuck jersey. they had it as practice one time. They had it as a Canucks practice jersey. Is that Abbotsford Canucks is Johnny Canuck? Yeah. They also came out in a warm up for the Canucks and and played it. So so you remember when they had the third jersey, Back in 2011. It was stick in the rink. And on the shoulders, they had that Johnny Canuck. That's the one that needs to be the main logo on the front when they do a third turn. Yeah, exactly. Like when they did the reverse retro and it was the guy skating. And it looked like they had the Johnny Canuck image, like, it doesn't fit. Let's just like squish it in a little bit. It'll fit better. I say bring back the white Canuck skate. I want that white. Canuck skate and then the accessories to go with it and the flying V on the shoulders. flames going down the sleeves to make them faster. Beautiful. Yeah, is it

bad that I'm partial to that Vancouver over the Orca? I actually really I I'm I'm finding myself missing it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I hear that and I'm like, I want the old Vancouver over the skate. I want the skate every time. Yeah, yeah. I just can't I just can't picture a better logo than the the skate on the black, you know. I just I know there's ways of doing it. It's just I really like this hat. I was just gonna say silver is actually pretty nice. that's a really good one too, yeah. Tone on tone. Or the the one I usually wear with the green the car heart one. It was like they it the skate looks great on everything. honorable mention though of the the millionaire's jersey. Like that's pretty pretty chef's kiss in my opinion. Like the it's sad that, you know, we didn't get to see it beyond the the outdoor game, but I mean I I like it. What do you mean burgundy with the the the cream color? Yeah, I don't like yeah, like with the the V and the yeah. Yeah. No, I've Make another reiteration of that. It's everybody's entitled to their opinion even if they're wrong. No, that's fine. What do you think? are you gonna buy the jersey that they just released? my problem is when I when when I see the jerseys that are alternate jerseys and I go to a game I don't want to wear an alternate. I want to wear the one that they're wearing. So if they're gonna wear black, I wanna wear black to that game. If they're gonna wear blue, I wanna wear blue to that game. For me just me. For me it's a price thing. well, of course. man. what was it? 250 bucks without a name and then it's cheap. Three hundred and fifty bucks with a name? That's normal jersey pricing. No, I So when you go for the specialty nights they do where they do like Diwali night or they do all the themes in the jerseys, those jerseys if you buy them from the arena are five hundred dollars. Not fair. Cause I remember be I can't remember what it was. those Diwali jerseys were beautiful. Well, the one they did the in the indigenously done one with the I was like, that's a nice jersey. And then I think I've been there for a couple theme nights when I and then you go and you're like, the one I went in was the the red Chinese lunar new year one. And it's a nice jersey. Yeah, but what do these cost? five hundred bucks? my god. That's more than a regular jersey. So when you see people walking around with it, that that's a status symbol. Yeah, they got the money, yep. Yeah. You see anyone at a Canucks game, that's a status symbol. Wow, you went to a Canucks game? Would you like to talk about any prospects that are doing well? Yeah, I had a note here just because we've been talking so much about there's a lot of success in in what I would say our top three prospects are right now, between Cootes, Now Malhotra stepping his game up, he got another two points, like he's just picking his game up. Novotny's on fire. Cootes, while still injured, was point a game in the AHL. So we've talked a lot about him. I just

wanted to touch base with two other ones, and and I'll keep getting to them as we go. But I wanted to touch base on on Brooks Regowski. he's played fifteen games. He's got fourteen points. And he only he only got two goals. But like he's playing top center lines in the OHL right now. He's almost a point to game player. that's great to see, especially out of a second round pick, especially of his size. and then Anthony Romani is Anthony Romani was second. Player of the week, I believe, for the big ten in the NCAA. And he's like a fifth or sixth round pick we had. awesome. He's just started off. I saw the interview. Yeah, and they said though. He came back to like camp faster, better ready to go. And they're like, Not many people pick up that much speed in an off season. And it shows cause he's been putting up, he's got five goals, two assists for seven points in five games. those are impressive numbers. It's just good to see like again, like you said, you know, picks are power. We got more picks. They're developing. We got some guys that haven't been taking good steps. and then we have some guys that weren't expected to that are picking up and and having like Romani's not someone you wouldn't you would expect this out of a second to first round pick, but you wouldn't be A fifth sixth round pick being like, man, this guy should be over a point a game in the NCAA. But I mean this is this is just going to show our scouting is working. Like these guys are doing their homework. They're finding the players that are gonna be what they believe they want them to be, and they're proving it in each league that they're playing it in. So it's really cool to see. Yeah, maybe on a future episode I'll look at the old drafts and to the analysis breakdown because it stood out to me that of this last draft, yes, we had more picks, which is hard to not bias in that discussion, but like our top three picks are doing really well. The fourth one, the Ekman Olson, Aaron Olson, Olsen twins. Nicholas Aaron Olson. he is like a a bottom six player in the league, right? Think he's on the same team as Malhotra actually, and he's got three points in the same kind of games, but he's slowly figuring his game out. But it's just yeah, I mean it's cool to see, you know, when things aren't going well on the ice, there's hope. There's some looking, you know, back in the I remember back when when the Sedin era ended and it was like, Well, we got Bo Horvat, and then it was like and then we were treated for a couple years because it was just like Brock Boeser comes in and barring an injury almost won Rookie the year next year, Elias Petterson comes in and wins rookie of the year. Well, we are also sitting there with our licking our chops at a guy like Quinn Hughes, who comes in the next year and is the runner up for it. And then the third year, we were in the fourth year there, I was like, Man, Podkolzin came in and had a good start. And it was like, This is cool to see. You want to see

these guys coming in. And it's now here we are again at the beginning of a new and it's it's at least nice to be like, Okay, some of these games have been hard to watch. We're not winning on the ice, but look at the next wave coming up and it's exciting, at least for me. Yeah, absolutely it is. And I appreciate all those details that you're bringing in because I don't usually pay attention to all the developing prospects. Well for me I like watching it. Like I'm I'm a as you can tell, like I'm a Canucks nut. And it's part of the f the best part is like seeing the whole picture and I'm excited that, you know, the new coach we have that they handpicked to come and replace Johnson in the AHL as this developer, a guy that's great working with young guys. Yeah. And they are one of the best teams in the AHL so far again. That's what I was going to say. It's like Manny came in and took the reins and did it and and now I can't pronounce his name. It's like Papa Giorgio. But but it's but that's exciting. Like it's nice to see and it's that's the stuff to get excited about. And it's like easier to get excited now, I feel like, like because in some ways it's it's you can get depressed going into your rebuild, but at least it's not, Jim Benning in charge. It's the silver line it's the silver lining of what's going on. So yeah, what we're seeing NHL wise, maybe a touch depressing Yeah. But if you can kind of get around that, you're starting to see again some of the players are starting to pick up, which is great. And then you start if you go even deeper, the deeper cuts are These kids that are coming up through the system. And if you can follow them and all these prospects that they have scattered around the league, it's actually, this future is there's some brightness coming up. It's just you gotta be patient. If we all can be a little bit patient and just bear down and deal with what we got right now. The key. Yeah, exactly. The key to this season is the ability to shrug. You watch the game, they don't win. You look for the bright spots, Boeser scores, Ohgren scores. There's some fight back, push back, and you shrug. You say it's a rebuild. We just started and we're still seeing some good signs, especially down keep that emotion going. I love that emotion. If they can keep that level emotion, they're gonna keep the fans engaged a hundred percent. We we've watched the Canucks play like this when they were trying to win. So now that the direction again, like you don't even know you're in the tunnel until you see the light on the other side. And and now that that's turned the leaf and this is the direction, it's not like early Benning years when Linden left when we're like we're trying to win and we're trying to do well and we are like a bottom team in the league every year. So we're trying to do the proper thing and rebuilding and getting the picks. So it's it's a different outlook to have if you want to continue watching. And on the nights they play well and

it's close, it it still feels like good like that Toronto game. And when we c coming back and the ducks again, it was like this is exciting. I'm standing watching it like they don't mean a lot when you win, but it does to the fans and to the team. statistically, it's it's not like we're sitting at the end of the year and you're like, guys, don't win too many because we don't wanna, No, they're taking that seriously. They did when we could have had the Bedard year. Yeah. They started I don't want to talk about We brought Tocchet in late to really win. but yeah, like it's it's the positives in it. And and again, if you look at through like that right outlook and that mindset, because if you're gonna look at the game and be like, This guy missed this. Where are they with this? This didn't look good. It's like, well, yeah. this is an acknowledgement that not only last year were we on pace to be a historically bad team, we are still last year the worst team in cap history, like in the cap salary era. salary cap era. Thank you very much. And so this year, you know, we're similarly and it's just finding the growth. Like we found a bottom, we have our rock bottom. So what can we build on? And again, like I think I talked to you guys, but it can't get anywhere. Yeah, you gotta know where the bottom is to see the steps growing up, right? And if we're gonna be the worst, we better be the best at being the worst. Yeah. We are, right? We're well, we're still going for it. Find the things that are fun to watch. Like I I've really enjoyed watching Ohgren play. And there's again, I was saying when we're watching, like, there's a player when scratching a player really works and that message is received. He was scratched and he's come back, and since then he's been consistently putting up more points. And I love to see that's the growth I'm looking for. going forward next year, depending on how the year continues going, you're looking at it like, hey, great year for Ohgren, breakout for Lekkerimaki We re-sign Where are they gonna what what next step can they take? Because you know, that's when we're gonna really see maybe where you start to see where they yeah, whether where they're gonna slot in in the future. And that's exciting. Yeah, exactly. I want to do a shout out to Adrian because He just did a massive reno of his basement and Canucks room to make this scene look even better than it did before. and shout out to Jeremy for getting these amazing signs made. Those are how do they cut those out? C and C. C and C machines. And yeah, just really nice. But the lighting is all around. and an ambitious like Four day just blitz through this thing that's impressive. I started it just kind of wanting to do a facelift anyway to make it for the show and for you know changing things up and and then I couldn't play hockey with the injury, so you guys went off to hockey last week and I was like, I gotta do something. And so I started it, and yeah, I'm happy with it turned out, but in hindsight in hindsight, I wouldn't have started a small reno. before my my wife's like, just reminding again, this weekend's our kids' birthday and all the kids are coming over. So I'm like, I'll have it done. And I did a couple of days early, but it was a motivating factor. I've been putting that put the effort in over about three nights to rip everything, cut the shelf off and redo everything. So no, it looks fantastic. Yeah, we appreciate it. Thank you for all your work, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. This has been for Nucks Sake the podcast, the Canucks pod by fans for fans. Thanks for tuning in. You can find us on pretty much all the social medias, and you can email us fornuckssake at gmail dot com. Send in your comments, questions, or if anything we've said today really made you angry, please let Daniel know. We want to hear about it. Thanks for tuning in.