Full Transcript for Public vs Private vs Guided

one is a um is it not a kind of awkward one? 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.280 It's you know, hunting on a budget. 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:50.400 Well, not awkward, because some people don't think of the some of the topics we're gonna talk about are budget-friendly topics. 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.840 But when you look at big picture, they they can be. 00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:02.319 And uh for this one, it's gonna be, you know, we got all the we did the gear, we did the waiters, we did the shotguns, we did the decoys. 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:13.360 This one is public land versus private land, your leases, your lease hunters, and versus the guys that you know, the guided hunts. 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:25.919 And depending how you hunt or how you group hunt, how often you know, some of those three categories uh can actually be cheaper. 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:33.439 There's certain uh uh applications and situations where guided hunts could be cheaper than going public hunting or go getting a lease. 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.400 Yeah. 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.879 Um I don't mean, but no, I I agree. 00:03:40.960 --> 00:04:00.159 I think uh and I th I'd like to weigh on you know when you're starting out what what kind of would benefit you the most, but um I really want to go about this as far as we're gonna get into so let's just pick each well each segment and kind of count, you know, and as we move the next one, we'll kind of compare them. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:01.039 So yeah. 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:08.639 And um, you know, for honestly, for the new hunter, let's go with the guided hunts first. 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.599 Um, you know, and and there's two ways of looking at this. 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:18.000 There's the brand new hunt guy who just wants to get into hunting waterfowl and he kind of wants to do the the learning thing. 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:28.800 Or there's a guy that hey, he's in the his he's hunted before in the past, but now he you know he has a big boy job where he only gets so much PTO, so much time off. 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:37.040 Um he's in, you know, for the military guys, let me tell you, if you're in the 82nd or 101st, which we've both been in both of them. 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:39.600 Well, I've been in one of them, you know. 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:40.240 In one of them. 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:41.439 Yeah, I've been in both of them. 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:54.399 But uh, yeah, like but you know, maybe something that you go and get out four or five times throughout the whole 60-day season. 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:06.160 So I mean your average, you think about your average hunt with a good tip uh would be about$300 a hunt, right? 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:16.720 And if you can only hunt, we'll say five days out of the season, that's$1,500, which sounds a lot, right? 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:38.560 Especially if there's free land out there to go hunt, but you're not paying for decoys, you're not paying for transportation out there,

you're not paying for um a boat, blind, you know, with those, with those, you're kind of just showing up as you are. 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:59.680 And I think, yeah, and I think with those two, especially for the new hunter, and this is from my opinion, I feel like if you don't have buddies that are waterfowl hunters, but you've got I mean, you kind of got intrigued by these shows like Duck Camp Dinners and um with JP, John Paul, or Boujiwa. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:00.800 I'm gonna say it wrong. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.160 I'm sorry, my fellow Louisiana's. 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:17.199 But um uh you know, or like shows like uh you know uh Duck Dynasty or any of any of these shows, yeah, any of these shows, like you gotta, you're like, man, I want to do it, but you don't have friends. 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.600 That guide is your is the next best thing. 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:24.319 Yeah, you're gonna pay, but you're not paying for you know$500 in decoys to put them out. 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.639 You're not paying to do the carry out. 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.160 I mean, it's sweat equity, right? 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.959 We're not you're not going out there, you're throwing the sweat equity. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.879 Um, so if somebody, and this is, and again, this is my opinion. 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.079 I I feel guide service is just an amazing all around. 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:44.800 Like we still, me and you still go to guides, even though we can go in our backyard and go, huh, or you can go on your your lease and hunt. 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:53.680 But it it's it's nice sometimes to just go out there and then and really they're concierge services, you know. 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.920 It's like is that the right word I'm reasoning? 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:05.519 Like, you know, they just kind of like yeah, they're just they just do it's it's uh it's nice to uh be pampered a little bit, if that makes sense. 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.399 So it's like, hey man, I don't gotta throw a spread and I'm here. 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.480 I some you really don't have to call. 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:16.560 Like some of the guides are you're the pretty cool, like, yeah, go ahead and call, but there's guys like Joe's, like, uh you sound like shit. 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.040 Please give me your decoy. 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:20.399 I'm just kidding. 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.600 I'm just kidding, but give me your give me your uh give me your call and let me uh hold it for you. 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:34.560 But um and and there's even guys, and and this is a hard one because if you have a dog too, call the guide and see if it's okay. 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:45.360 Most guides, at least the ones I've dealt with, I mean, they they're kind of they're weary about bringing their dogs around their dogs and um it can become more of a problem and kind of uh hinder the hunt. 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:53.120 So, but some of them are are I mean,

they're hey, you want to bring your dog fine, they'll work with you and kind of get you separate from whatever the case may be. 00:07:53.279 --> 00:08:05.279 But that that being said, going on a tangent, um I feel like for the new hunter who doesn't have anybody to show him how to go out there and hunt, I mean, these guide services are perfect, you know? 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:06.879 Yeah, you learn a lot too. 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:12.720 I've learned from, you know, I didn't I learned from guide services where areas I didn't hunt at how they were doing things. 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:14.720 Oh wow, this is okay, cool. 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:19.759 They were setting up because um it's just like the military, man. 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.839 There's a thousand, there's one objective, but there's a thousand ways to do that, right? 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:24.800 Yeah, yeah. 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:26.639 So everybody does it different. 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:28.000 If it works for you, then do it. 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:28.639 You know what I mean? 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:30.720 So this is one of those things. 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:46.639 I'd say for price point, sometimes don't ever think about, oh, you know, it's gonna be cheaper for me to get a lease or you know, having to go um to a, you know, having to go public holding, because there is an aspect of the public, right? 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.159 There's the decoys, you gotta get your own decoys. 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.039 But you want to give motion with the motion. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.360 If now you know, a boat. 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.519 I mean you gotta you gotta, yeah, you gotta get a way to get out there. 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:00.240 Get out there. 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:04.639 So even if you're if you're you're walking it in, like you still gotta walk out there. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.159 It's I mean that's sweat equity. 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:11.919 Like you think, like, oh, I can walk, you know, a couple a hundred yards. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:21.200 Yeah, walking a hundred yards in the marsh is it's not fun, but like you're like you're grinding it out or walking and breaking brush, like it weighs on you. 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:22.639 I mean, it sucks. 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:27.919 Now, the for me, but I feel like the uh I guess everybody's different. 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:35.360 I for me, I enjoy that because there's a reward to it at the end of it when we get done, like we completed the we walked for a living. 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:38.320 Some people went to college, some people became boss, we became brunt. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:46.720 Um and this is having a you know, I you know, I want your boat, just the war eagle you had, how much did I run you? 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.679 Side and done with everything before decreasing. 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:50.720 Oh, with everything? 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:52.720 Without the with the motor? 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:53.679 Yes, with everything. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:55.759 I would say close to 20. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.159 Well yeah, about close to 20,000. 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:08.879 I would say uh I think it was around 19 something when it was all said and done with uh everything I had on it. 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:14.960 Yeah. 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:25.039 What we're gonna do if you're paying fifteen hundred dollars a year to go from five guided hunts a season, right? 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.960 I'm not the best mathematician. 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:47.759 But I mean that's almost just without money, if you're doing five hunts a year at fifteen hundred dollars of guided hunts a year, that's all that's over ten years, you know, of guided hunts you can do. 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:52.559 So uh I mean I'm I'm just saying that's at the the price point and your time. 00:10:52.639 --> 00:11:00.639 So you know there's a big there's you know, don't don't think that you know, oh the guided hunts are too much. 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:18.080 There is plenty of mid-level guides out there, and I'm not saying mid-level, they're not quality-wise mid-level, they're just not these big fantasy lodges like Spoonville Adventures, BLW, um uh Northern Arkansas Guide Service, North Arkansas Guide Service. 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:18.399 Yeah. 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:26.879 Uh yeah, you're playing reasonable prices, but you're saving, yeah, you're saving on the decoys, the side-by-side, the dog. 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.039 And you could also use that as a learning experience. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:44.399 So maybe, you know, if you're just getting into that or you don't or you don't have the time, you know, why buy a$20,000 boat if you only get to use it two, three, four, maybe five times a year. 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:50.639 And you know, yeah, and I think, and this is this is just sort of everything, right? 00:11:52.960 --> 00:12:04.720 You might be expecting days by you, and you get, you know, I don't know, Joe Smoe, and he tells you to meet you at the meet you, meet me at the, I don't know, wherever the case may be. 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:14.639 Yeah, field 66, and we we're walking together here, hold some decoys or whatever, but most of them won't, but it it's also a price range, too, right? 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:23.919 Um, and they're gonna a lot of good guide services are gonna tell you because you also got to think about um how you want to price and how you want the experience to get happen. 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:27.440 Because even though day's value is expensive, like you're getting the experience. 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:32.799 Like you, you have, I mean, they have you you have your own uh lodge. 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:34.720 I mean, they have, I I think they do. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:42.240 I don't even know if I can promote this or even say this, but they have open bar, like you have um, I mean, they they just it's an all-out experience. 00:12:42.399 -->

00:12:50.240 Like uh places like Honey Break, you can do uh hunt in the morning, go uh crappie fishman in the in the afternoon or something like that. 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.159 So um that's honey break, right? 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.559 Yeah, honey breaking does that, yeah, yeah. 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:03.200 So I mean there's a lot of them that do like cast and blast, and it's just the experience, or hey, you just because you also got to think about that too. 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:11.840 Because if you're going, let's say you're traveling to Arkansas, I mean, you got to get lodging, you got to get apartments if the most at least the majority, at least I think so. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.000 Um, but there is I I'll give you an example. 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:24.720 There's there's guides here in Texas that, you know, like, hey, we have hotels that you we can get you in and lodging, but it they're very minimal because this is like, it's not, this is not Arkansas, it's not Louisiana. 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:35.120 We don't, it doesn't get that that, I guess, that flow, unless you're going to like the panhandle where you know uh you're hunting uh sand hill cream. 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:42.639 Yeah, like there, there's a lot, they're a little bit more um, I guess, logistically organized, if that makes sense. 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:44.399 But I mean, the experience is fun. 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:58.879 I mean, if you've never tank hunt, I mean, get the experience, but it's also another experience for new hunters to see, hey, I man, I like this tank hunting or pond hunting, or you know, I like this flooded timber, Arkansas hunting, or I like this rice field hunting in Louisiana. 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:02.240 So just getting the experience and understanding, but also knowing your price point. 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:02.720 Yeah. 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:04.559 So I mean that's that's my thing. 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:15.360 Yeah, and another thing some some guide services, not all guys, but some guide services, um offer is also um what do you call it? 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:24.159 Uh dailies hunting, where you can go rent a blind out there for four days, so$500 a day for the blind. 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:32.399 Um usually those tend to have you have to have your own decoys and your own transportation out there. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:42.799 But if you have that, you know, um that those are also an option, especially if you're splitting it with five guys, it's a hundred bucks a day. 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:58.960 Um now when I first retired and got a big boy job, and I'd become a real boy, uh, and have a grown-up job, I didn't know the time I was gonna have outside uh that season. 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:10.879 So that first season, me, Gilbert, Elliot, a buddy of mine named Barry, we actually found a guide service in Spoonville Ventures that offered package hunts. 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:20.240 It was for uh I believe it was for four thousand dollars

for five guys, up to five guys per blind. 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:25.519 You could um for ten hunts, you could buy a package. 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.320 So we had we had to pay ten days throughout the season. 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:34.320 And we each and that came out to literally eight hundred bucks a person. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.759 We are for us, we already had our own decoys. 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:47.279 We already had we had everything, but we just didn't that year, we just didn't have the time to invest in a um what do you call it? 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:48.399 Uh a lease. 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:56.080 And we we did some public hunting, but we still wanted to do some uh private hunting or get away from the crowds on the weekends. 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.960 And for a sixty-day season, 10 hunts almost comes out to every Saturday of the season. 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:07.840 And um so we did that for 800 bucks a person. 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:10.000 Wasn't horrible. 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:14.720 And actually, uh for that year, that year was 2023. 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:22.799 And that season, and I hunted the left, that was the least amount of days I hunted that sea uh, you know, that year. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:28.559 I actually was able to, that was my best harvest uh numbers here in Louisiana. 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:46.320 Um and it was you know, it was you know, Spoonville ventures, you know, you had uh up to believe it was 15 blinds um to pick from throughout your days, and we kind of showed up and they would the night before give us a pin to or let us know what blind we're gonna be at. 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:59.679 And it was a self-guided hunt package, and we would show up there and bring our, you know, we had our own side-by-side, we had our own decoys, we'd get out there a little early, put everything out, hunt it, and pick up. 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:02.559 But that year it was pretty good. 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:13.200 And if you think for 10 hunts for 800 bucks a person or you know, five guys in a blind for 10 hunts throughout the season, that's actually super good. 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:25.279 And you know, we didn't have to burn gas money in the boat, we didn't have to have a boat, and it was just it was a good, it was good for us that year, just for all of our work schedules. 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.359 And um, you know, those are other options you can think about. 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.960 Yeah, and I think I think that can get it intimidating too. 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:39.599 So like especially when you get in a water file, everybody thinks like, oh, I gotta get a boat, I gotta get a kayak, I gotta get on the water. 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.000 Like, I mean, you really you don't. 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:53.359 Like, there's I mean, you can hunt a tank, you can hunt um, you can hunt rice fields, you can, I mean, you can walk in a rice field, uh, you can hunt um, you know, dry fields if you have that option. 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:57.599 So, I mean, you can hunt, you know, flooded grain or whatever. 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.799 So um, I think that was it, that's intimidating. 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:05.839 I know there's a lot of people that's like, oh, I don't want to get into it just because I don't I don't want to invest in a boat right now. 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.240 But I mean, I I do enjoy hunting, you know, these coupling birds and stuff. 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:18.319 So um it's just one of those things that it and I think we're going on to like it's an option and what you what you're looking at as a new hunter. 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.160 Um but I mean I think all these are great points. 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:32.880 Um I guess we can get into like what the benefits are for or even looking at a new hunter, because you want to go into new hunter and then so on and so on with new hunter public land. 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.640 Well, we let's go with the least because we're kind of you know we're just down the least. 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:38.559 Yeah, and we'll go go into the least. 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:43.519 Um, and you know these aren't just aren't for brand new hunters. 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:57.599 This is some of sometimes the veteran hunters, you know, but you know, for me, doing this series kind of showed me ways to cut um not cut corners, but look at different avenues to cut some costs a little bit. 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:04.319 And uh I was able, you know, this year I did do some uh tips and tricks and actually bought some new gear on for really cheap. 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:16.880 But another you know, another thing that it is very cost, um there is an upfront cost, but is when you think about you know a lease. 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:27.519 Uh and there's there's pros and cons to leases, and there's ways to um ways to bring that down, right? 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.920 And like we said, with a lease, you're really looking into buddy hunting, right? 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:45.279 Because your average lease out here in Louisiana is about$7,500 on the low end to about$85. 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:51.440 And for and those are just for you know your average lease, they can go way higher than that. 00:19:51.920 --> 00:20:04.400 But if you think from$7,500, you know,$7,500, you get five, five of your buddies at the end of the day, you divide that out, that comes up to$1,500 per person. 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:11.359 And you know, that's for a typical rice lease with teal and big duck. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:21.359 You add everyone brings, you know, three dozen decoys uh to you know to the mix, five guys, three dozen decoys each. 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.279 Now you have a pretty decent spread. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:33.440 Um you got you know you um have you know some some spinny wings, whatever. 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:36.559 Um splitting the lease up. 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.880 When you look at the lease, if you if possible,

even even I to this to this day do it. 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.279 I have multiple people on my lease. 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:48.559 We go in as a as a group of friends, there's five of us, and we put into it. 00:20:48.720 --> 00:21:00.559 The big thing about that is where you're gonna cut and save money is obviously the more people you have into it, uh, you know, the less, you know, the less you have to pay up front. 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:28.240 We all have gears, we all throw in gear, and um, you know, we don't have to, you know, the thing that I like about Elise more so than we'll say the package hunts or just a guided hunt is for$1,500, which that was about as much as you're doing for four or five hunts of guided hunts, you could have the same type of property. 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:35.519 Well, and I'm not I'm gonna go with rice, the rice fields for us, for about the same price, and you can hunt all 60 days if you want. 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:43.920 That's gonna come up to me the price point versus the time is or the benefit is gonna be the time you have to hunt. 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:56.960 So now I'm in a situation where I have, you know, with the job I have duck season, I can take the majority of duck season off and hunt 30 to 40 days of solid hunting as long as the wife lets me. 00:21:57.359 --> 00:21:59.759 And she doesn't tell me, she doesn't pull the rings on me. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.839 Say, hey, slow it down. 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:25.839 So when you average it out like that, you know, you're only paying a few bucks a hunt, an ag field or private property, and you and you're now you're not having to deal with needing a boat to drive out somewhere in the lake or some marsh or trying to beat the crowds or going somewhere three hours away and needing a hotel or an Airbnb to stay in. 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:37.519 Those are then paying for the gas to drive two, three hours to a refuge or whatnot, then use your boat or your whatever or a kayak. 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:54.079 Sometimes with buddies may be up front, you know, fifteen hundred dollars, but there's other long, you know, long-term costs that you kind of whittle down a little bit. 00:22:54.319 --> 00:23:02.000 And for me, at least kind of just fits me with the price point, having a couple good buddies that I'm hunting with, anyways. 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:41.680 We're gonna be hunting in the the marsh or whatever, you know, anyways, with and that to me kind of cuts down to you know, now we're not having to go run the boat all the time, or not having to drive two, three, four hours away to go on some, you know, the public land, because you know, public land can't, depending on where you live, you might not have easy access to public land, you know, 10, 20 minutes away from your house, you might have to drive an hour, two, three hours, or go for a day and you know, get an Airbnb or a campground two, you know, 200 on mute. 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:43.519 Yeah, no, I agree. 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:50.000 Um I mean, and that uh especially if you can get buddies on that with leases. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:24:03.839 And I mean, like we talked about in the last well, segment hasn't came out yet, but no, yeah, and team hunting, you know, the guy who can talk to uh farmers and people who have land, I mean, that's that's uh that's part of the private land. 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:13.680 And if you can get a lease with them, because a lot of them, I mean, they gotta find a way to source their uh supplementary, yeah, so supplement their income when you know crops aren't growing or something. 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:25.440 So I mean, it is a it is a go-to, and that's something like even if you know you have a couple tanks or you have a rice field and it's a couple thousand, you split that and he's like, hey man, can how many can I have on here? 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:29.519 And you can have um four or five people, you split that amongst y'all. 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.920 I mean, that's whether you like it or not, that's a win. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.599 And then you're not competing, and then you, you know, you don't have to wake up super early like you're doing in uh public land. 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:52.000 So yeah, I mean, and then like I said, it cuts those real big costs out, like a boat, and then you go with with a boat, now you have that boat, now you gotta run gas, you gotta do maintenance on it, you have upkeep on it. 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:53.359 Uh something breaks. 00:24:53.440 --> 00:25:00.079 I mean, every time something breaks on those boats, it's a 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 to fix. 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:00.720 Yeah. 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:01.440 Yeah. 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:10.079 So, you know, those are you know things to think about um when it comes to that, and especially with buddy hunting. 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:24.960 So, I mean, a lot of the stuff we're talking about, you know, towards the end with you know, with the guides and the leases and the day leases or the package hunt, it really comes down to buddy hunting, um, you know, team hunting. 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.319 And you know, that's for um for me, Chris, that's what we do most of the time. 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:32.880 You know, very seldom do we ever go out by ourselves just to go hunt. 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.200 Uh, I'm not saying anything wrong with that. 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:40.960 Uh, but sometimes sitting in the blind, you know, can be boring by yourself. 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.640 Um Yeah, it can. 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.200 I mean, have have I done it? 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:45.920 Has Joe done it? 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:46.880 Yeah, we've definitely done it. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:48.079 I know Joe's done it. 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:49.920 Um, just to get out there. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.960 I mean, there is, I mean, sometimes people just can't go. 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.920 And I mean, I mean, you have the time and

you gotta take advantage of it. 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:10.799 Um, so um it is one of those things, just like anything where any hunting really just kind of make sure you're and I guess staying safe, especially because when you're on the water a waiter, so yeah. 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.039 But um, yeah, I 100% agree. 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:24.160 I think it it's just it's one of those things that I mean going out with people just gonna help supplement the money and funds and wherever they all go. 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:29.839 Um so do we so we are we going do you want to go into public land? 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:36.240 Well yeah, we go into public, obviously public land upfront costs would definitely be the cheapest. 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:45.440 Yeah um and and I and he's we say the cheapest because I know I brought up like hey, you're not buying all these decoys. 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:54.240 We say the cheapest because there's all we've talked about you know gear and stuff, there's alternate routes of getting cheaper decoys, marketplace or painting. 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.240 I mean, you can you can do anything, man. 00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.799 And so it's there's cheaper, cheaper routes. 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:09.119 So and you know, let's say for the public land guy or the guy's like, hey, I can't, I don't have the time to invest in a lease because there is a sweat equity lease, right? 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:20.000 I need to go brush my blind, I need to go do this, uh, I need to you know ensure my levees aren't leaking or uh you know I need to go pump a blind. 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:40.720 Um so you know for me, if you have all the time in the world and you have three, four, five buddies to pitch in, uh you know, uh uh a decent lease could be the best option, right? 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:47.759 For me, now I'm kind of going to the guys that it's only one or two you guys to hunt, maybe three. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:54.559 You guys have a tight work schedule, you're only gonna be able to hunt maybe 15 days a season. 00:27:54.960 --> 00:28:10.559 Um, and you don't have time to go pump and brush blinds before, pick up decoys after, go put decoys out and do because even with even with the lease and with your blinds, for the pit blinds, there's still maintenance that we have to do on them throughout the season. 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:16.000 But you know, for the guys that are lucky, like you know, me and you kind of fit this bill. 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:23.119 And I still, you know, even with my leases, my lease is about an hour away from my house, which isn't a bad ride in the mornings. 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.759 There's some days where I'm just cramped for time. 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:41.440 And for the guys that you know are lucky to have some public land 20, 30, 5 minutes away from their house, um, you know, that might be a route to go, you know, especially if you can get away in the middle of the week where other people are working or not. 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:50.000 Public land, you know, you know, obviously that's up front is the cheapest way to go, especially if you can get a walk-in, right? 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:50.880 Yeah. 00:28:51.119 --> 00:29:00.160 You're walking when you do, you know, all you need is a sled and you don't need a boat or a kayak, you know, that obviously that you know that's you know, that's you know, the cheapest route. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:12.160 But I mean, around you or your average public land, or for when you do public land, you know, how what's the terrain and what do you actually need to go hunt? 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.640 So I mean, it especially here, right? 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.720 I I don't there's places you can hunt where you can walk in. 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:24.319 There's definitely a lot of places here, um, shallow parts of the lake, a little bit more marshy. 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:34.480 Um, and then there's if you have areas here, we I've gone with um I've gone with some of the people in the community who own land here. 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:40.079 So I mean, I've even had uh I've had um well, I have opportunities. 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.960 I haven't haven't um, and it's my fault. 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:54.480 I haven't um executed them or anything like that, but uh getting some of the ranchers here and they're like, hey man, you can go ahead and hunt my tank or whatever. 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.640 I mean, because they have a bunch of cattle tanks everywhere. 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:58.799 So um it's just one of those. 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:07.119 But uh as far as public, yeah, you're really it's really gonna be some of these uh lakes and get in the shallow areas if you don't have a kayak. 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:20.319 There is parts where you can just walk in and if you um it's pretty shallow, but again, you always want to take something to check to see how shallow it is to retrieve your duck because there is parts the water does go up and the water is down sometimes. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.640 So, but it's it's it's really not that it's it's it's free, you know. 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:31.519 It all it costs is your hunting license and getting out there and educating yourself, your sweat equity to get yourself out there. 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:49.680 Um but yeah, I think uh uh at least here in the area that I'm at, I mean you can drive up north and get uh get a little bit of flooded timber, but um that's more northeast, kind of uh Texas Artana, Arkansas area. 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:58.960 So yeah, for us down here, I only have one area that I can do a walk-in. 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.960 And it's a it's actually a pretty restricted hunt you could do. 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:12.079 Um it's a restriction on how big your party is, and actually an age restriction that you need. 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:20.880 You know, it's a youth area where you have to have someone 15 years or under in the hunt

group for everyone to hunt, or someone 55 or older to hunt. 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:32.960 It's a youth senior citizen area that allows you to hunt with a group of at least four or less if you have someone that fits that bill within the group. 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:46.559 Most of my 99% of the other hunting I have here in Louisiana, it may be a uh wild management area, a refuge, or just public a public lake is non-walking. 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:57.119 So for me, majority of my hunting public hunting has to be with a kayak or a um a boat. 00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:58.480 Right? 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.559 I have some kayaks, you know, uh, and I have some buddies with boats. 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:17.920 So you know, it if you have if you already have that equipment, it could be, you know, it's it, you know, also could be your cheapest thing. 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:26.000 Now realizing that with some of that, buying a nice kayak, which most kayaks don't need much upkeep, right? 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.720 The only upkeep really is you know, washing them out, cleaning them out. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.039 Maybe they have a crack or something breaks on it. 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:34.480 It's an easy fix. 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:40.640 You can get some um kayak weld and weld cracks or whatnot that you have on it. 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:53.599 After that initial, uh depending on our kayaks, and go anywhere from 400 to$1,000 initial payment, you know, then two dozen decoys, all you really need. 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:57.279 Maybe a spinner, really, you don't need one, maybe a jerk cord, you know. 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:06.480 So for roughly around, we'll say kayak with gear,$1,500, you could hunt forever for that. 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.240 But just know that there is an uh you know, there could possibly be an upfront cost. 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.000 Once that cost is done, it's an infinite amount of hunting. 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.680 And that could be a a good resource to obviously to keep the price down. 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:49.119 Especially if you're only hunting, you know, one or two guys or you know, you could be by yourself and you don't have um the friend group to split to split the cost, to split the um the burden of the hunt financially, then you know public land with initial cost can be your um you know, maybe have to be your Jimmy Jam. 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:54.400 But you know you know, there's just ways to get around it. 00:33:54.559 --> 00:34:01.599 So you know, even with public free land, there is still a cost that comes with it. 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.519 And it's it's usually on that one, is the gear aspect, right? 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:18.159 You're gonna need more gear in certain type, you know, certain gear, maybe a boat or a kayak, with the fetch that boat being you know, like Chris was saying, that's that was 20 grand that he spent up front on that boat. 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:24.000 And really that's not you know, most people aren't gonna drop 20 grand, you know, cash over on it. 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.840 It's a payment with interest. 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.880 You know, so you know, those are all things to think about. 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:41.360 So really when it comes down to you know, the for me, the public versus private versus guided is the gear that you have on hand and the time that you can invest again in these hunts. 00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:50.079 Because if yeah, if you ain't hunt twice, you know, two days a year or three days a year, you know, the guided aspect might be cheaper. 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.440 Or 100. 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.039 Or dailies. 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:54.480 You know. 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.519 So those are all aspects to think of. 00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.119 Yeah, 100%. 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:05.920 I think uh it's just one of those things like how often are you going and how how often do you have the time to do it? 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:24.880 I mean, um, it's just and the the we're not gonna I'm not trying to like beat a a dead horse, but um, you know, it's it it it really is like what kind of hunter you are gonna be, because you also, I mean, we all work, right? 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:32.559 And depending on what the jobs we do, sometimes uh fall and winter season um is the spike of our work. 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.280 So just I sometimes it might it is easier with guide services. 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:48.800 Um, and uh and the reason I say that is because it I'll give you an example of you're only gonna hunt three days, three days out of the year with a guide service, and those three days out of the year, you know, you're gonna go public hunt. 00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:50.480 Well, you gotta, yeah, you gotta get your own stuff. 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.719 There's cheaper routes, marketplace. 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.519 But you also you also gotta remember you're waking up super early. 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.039 Now you're fighting, you're you're competing for a good spot to hunt at. 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.199 Now your hunt may not be a good hunt. 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:17.519 Where these guide services, a lot of good ones are, you know, they're scouting, they're making sure that they get you in the tank or they get you in the proper rice field, or they get you, they, they, they're they're doing everything they can for you to be successful and you to have a good hunt. 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:23.840 Where if you don't want to pay for the hunt, but you have to wake up 32 in the morning, because I know Joe, we've done that. 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:33.199 You know, sometimes you know, one in the morning we're driving to get to fight for a good spot, because we're not the only, we're not the only ones with this this bright idea that came out of nowhere. 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.280 You know, that we all got it, we all want that spot trying to compete for it. 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.159

So yeah, especially like you said, scouting. 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.480 A lot of guys don't have the time to scout. 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:53.440 So now you're you're you know, if you're already strapped for time, you have a wife, you have a kid, do you have a ball game, do you have dance recitals, you only get deep this week in the hunt. 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:02.480 Are you gonna get the Friday off to go scout to see what whole ducks want in the pedigland or what part of the marsh they want? 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:10.400 I mean, if and that's even a you know, if you start thinking about it, that's a layer of a cost, a tank of gas there and back. 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.960 Can be a hundred, hundred and twenty dollars. 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.679 Uh so these are all things to think about. 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:29.119 Um, and like, yeah, for me and me, I mean, it's pretty much like you said, it's gonna come down to how much time, you know, not just a money investment, but a time and a time investment. 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.599 Yeah, because I mean, time is money, right? 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:38.079 So I mean, and it's just one of those things you gotta ask yourself because even and I get it, there's something about you going out and doing it. 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.360 Maybe you want to spend one of those days taking your dozen decoys and you know, having at it, that's fine. 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.400 But also, I mean, having your own lease. 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:54.800 I mean, yeah, you may be uh you may hunt three days of the year, but you have a lease that maybe you and your buddies got on, and you can take your kids. 00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.920 And I mean, I don't know, it costs you maybe$500. 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.440 But you gotta think if you're if you have a family, you're taking your kids. 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.440 I mean, depending on the age, some of these guide services are gonna charge you for your kid. 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:19.199 And I mean, a lot of them give them discounts when they're yeah, they're kids or whatever, but um, you know, we'll say 250 for you, and then so on and so on, and then you're already at past your$500 where you could have got a lease. 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:28.000 Yeah, you're 103 three days out of year, but you can go whenever you want, you know, or communication, depending on how you and your friends have that that lease set up. 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:35.519 Because I mean, that is a good good way to get on uh to have it's something that's yours too, so you're not killing yourself to get there too. 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:36.960 So I mean, I'm not gonna lie. 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.039 You can manage pressure, yeah. 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:40.960 You can manage pressure yourself. 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:55.119 Um and uh it's it's for me, especially for a father or mother who wanted who wants to take their kids out, it's definitely a lot um for me, cost-friendly. 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.800 Yeah, sometimes it can't be. 00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:57.280 Yeah. 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.920 Because you've seen well with with us on public, and mean, you know, me and you both got kids. 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.239 You know, we're going on the public land down here when you come to Louisiana. 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.360 I say there's not very much walking that we can do in the areas that we hunt. 00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:21.039 So now it's it's it's uh a kayak, a kayak, or you know, you with you know you bought about you know, me and my kids really and yourself, or you really enjoy kayak hunting. 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.840 That's how you cut your teeth with kayak hunting with me. 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:24.400 Yeah. 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:46.639 But even if you go the cheap route, the Walmart Sun Dolphin special, those are still, you know, there's three of you, you know, you and two go two kids, you know, that's three, six, that's nine hundred dollars worth of kayaks, or you know, now you're talking about paddles and life jackets and you know, all that cost still, you know, still adds up. 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:48.159 Now, is it cheaper? 00:39:48.400 --> 00:40:11.840 Yeah, and maybe going on to honey break or going to Days Bailey or going up to uh Mossy Ponds, but you you know, you might be able to save a little bit of money, you know, not have a huge upfront cost and go on a guided hunt if you're only a you know, you can only take you and your kids once or twice a year or the season to hunt. 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:13.519 That might be the cheaper route. 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:19.599 You're not paying for decoys, you're not paying for all the stuff that comes with it to make a successful hunt. 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.840 Yeah, no, I I agree. 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.440 I mean, it's it's just you just got way your options. 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.719 I mean, I know we we keep saying that, but it's just one of those things. 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:38.400 And I think we kind of started this segment just to kind of it's really just a discussion, really, to like it it works when you can hear it, like, oh, you know what, that's a good idea. 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.199 And then, you know, people caveat caveat off of other ideas that we're saying here. 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.320 Because I mean, you may have listened to this, like, well, you could also do this. 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:47.280 I mean, bring that up. 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:48.159 I mean, let us know. 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:48.639 Yeah. 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.199 I mean, it's just one of those things that my bad. 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.079 Um, that it just there's no right or wrong way. 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.000 It's just how you want to approach it. 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.239 Um, I know, and I'll give you an example. 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:19.840 When I got into it, I was full in, you know, it was almost kind of like uh um, I gotta say, I think

one thing that we learned even in the service, and I mean, honestly, with sports as kids, like it's a competition factor, right? 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.039 Like I was all in because I, hey, I wanted to fill the freezer. 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.039 You know, I saw Joe and his freezer was filled. 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.719 I was like, God, I want to do that. 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.079 So I wanted to fill the freezer. 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:29.119 I wanted the same thing. 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:34.320 So, and it's something good that you can come home and feed your family with what you harvest and stuff. 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:42.559 So um, but it is it is it is a discussion that you kind of kind of gotta ask yourself, get your feet wet, get in there. 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:54.239 Um, and again, this is just a discussion, there's no right or wrong way, but um I mean, I yeah, man, I think, I think uh, okay, I'll give you I'll give you a scenario. 00:41:54.480 --> 00:42:00.559 So for the hunter, and let's say he's your average Joe, just got into uh hunting. 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:10.400 All right, give give me uh your number one ideal way for him to enjoy the ultimate hunt. 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:23.119 Um, and let's say he has, and we'll say he, I mean, we have YouTube now, we have the the great glory of internet now, so we can research a lot of stuff on how to hunt ducks and stuff. 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:29.360 Uh, what what would be your best scenario when you if you were a brand new hunter and got into the game? 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.840 Would you start off with public, private, or a guy? 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.440 So brand new hunter. 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:44.400 And I used to do this when when I was in the military, I was in the army, we would I'd go from duty station to duty station. 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:57.519 Yeah, before I went out and really bought a lease, or I um went out and you know, it went out on a public land. 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:05.039 If I have buddies in my unit or whatnot, uh been hunting that area a lot, you know, it's just a little different. 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.519 But I would go out and I would go get a hunt. 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:16.400 I'd I'd paid for a hunt and just see what they do, how they set up, uh, how that differ from other areas that I hunted. 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:32.639 And then, you know sometimes they need to you were hunting property that butted up against a uh a wildlife management area or refuge, and I would kind of learn from them by watching. 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.320 But for me, once again, it it really goes about time. 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.880 So you know yeah, all that for me goes about time. 00:43:43.039 --> 00:45:28.880 So if I had a you know, I had I knew I was half every Saturday off of the season, and there was no no um restrictions on how much I could hunt, I might go out, I'd probably on the public side I'm gonna buy a kayak a kayak a kayak hunting for me

for five hundred dollars I can get a decent kayak two dozen decoys um a good you know a good pair of waiters I would you know I'd give me a a$300 shotgun a Winchester SXP you get it for$400 for a you know yeah I would do the the um the public land thing if I only had if I was only I knew I was only be able to hunt two days a s you know a year a season because of work or whatnot or I'm getting ready to come up on a deployment for our military guys um and I only had one or two Saturdays to hunt and I can get you know I can get a 200 250 dollar uh hunt in well you know maybe it's cheaper for me to spend that$500 you know plus decoys and weights at$700 take that for two hunt I can get two hunts that you know could produce you know a half a limit or a limit uh per hunt so for me with what that snare gave to me it would go back to time is how much time do I have to hunt throughout the season for then then that's just me. 00:45:29.920 --> 00:46:06.400 Yeah no I I agree I was just kind of get kind of curious on what you would do is and starting out and then and I'd have to agree I think if you have nobody around you right if you're a brand new hunter you have you you got into it because you you watch this YouTube or something like that and you're like man I really want to do that um your guide service is going to be your best bet get into it see how they're hunting it and then it may be just one time you hunt with them like all right cool I'm gonna go get marketplace get a couple decoys and I'm gonna do it myself and you and I mean there's nothing wrong with that. 00:46:06.559 --> 00:47:50.159 I mean I did that Joe's done that so yeah um military when you start off water fountain and we're talking about guys starting off scratch where do you envision your w you waterfallon in five years you know if you feel like hey I'm gonna you know I'm gonna go full you know full send you know hey like you said buy a hunt or two the first season and then go learn from those guides and then buy a couple or a two three dozen decoys off marketplace some some candle and slowly build up to the where in five years now now I'm I'm the public land hunter I'm grinding out um or a I want to see I want to see about how I like this lease hunting or private land hunting go to an outfitter and go to an outfitter that's gonna be in the type of terrain that you want to hunt hunting uh if it's timber if it's a dry field if it's you know a a marsh that you're looking you know uh emotional impoundment uh if it is you know flooded ag or harvested rice field um go you know buy a guided hunt in that hunting in that type of training because you might you might you might not like it you're you know you for me I've never hunted a what I like to say a true true timber hunt right I've hunted these cyber salutes but I've never hunted a true timber hunt like we would think in Arkansas. 00:47:50.400 --> 00:48:48.800 Yeah I I'm not gonna go buy a timber lease and have my you know invest everything

my first timber hunt me on my own because I might get out like yo this is kind of for the birds I want to go my pit blind I want to go back I want to go back to the rice so you know that you know that's another way you can tip your toe into you know a lease is going to a guide service kind of seeing how they do it how they set the blind up how they set their field up the maintenance and you kind of pick the brain and you know it's it with waterfowl I'll tell everyone don't go full send the first you know the first season kind of like I tried to talk Chris out of but he did just brute force and ignorance but yeah if you have the opportunity to learn from somebody man try to learn from somebody and um like I said I don't like calling saying cut corners but there's ways to to learn from their mistakes first before you make mistakes on your own. 00:48:49.440 --> 00:49:38.960 Yeah and um yeah and and again I mean this is our last segment it was it was it was great I loved it um it's just one of those things and I I honestly I'm curious on uh the listeners' input I would really like to hear what you guys think reach out to us kind of get your opinion on um the whole public guide and uh uh private land but no I mean yeah before we got no we're winding down but now now money ain't a thing right I I want to talk about some items that we can look at that either we we want or we're gonna get or there's certain things like hey man I wouldn't brag if I hit the lotto but there will be signs. 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.679 All right so let's go with let's go with shotguns. 00:49:44.159 --> 00:50:04.800 If you got to have any shotgun right now swipe that card what would you get ooh that's a good one it's between the Browning A5 or the super black eagle I'd probably go super black eagle because I'm most of my actually all my shotguns are technically Benelli. 00:50:05.039 --> 00:51:55.360 I mean I have the Benelli's and then I have the Stoger which my chokes are interchangeable so I'd probably go with that probably a super black eagle you I'm looking the model up right ooh you know what never mind that's rough man I I got to shot I gotta shoot the overunder wicked wing yeah and I fell in love with that I don't care if it's just two shots that thing is beautiful yeah that'd probably be over under the wicked wing so if Joe money ain't a thing and I was looking at the Beretta XA or AX or XA or the 800 the other day when I was when we were in Texas um it's oh it's almost a$3000 shotgun pretty cool looking real light kind of futuristic looking but if I got any shotgun money you know just swipe that card and Maiden's without gonna get mad uh I would go with a Fabmar uh Fab Ar uh Fab Arms um Italian made shotguns from Fab Arms and it's their Chesapeake their X their XLR Chesapeake which is with their left-handed shotgun because I'm a left-handed shooter and I gotta change some part y'all for my safeties I gotta change around all my right handed guns um but and I'd go with

the Fab Arms Chesapeake left-handed with a 30 inch barrel and MSR on that is$2,850. 00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:52.960 So that would be my um my dream money's not a thing shotgun yeah I haven't seen that one I think mine would definitely be that Browning uh wicked wing though we're under uh and it would be it would be the uh honestly to tell you the truth it would be the 20 gauge uh 20 yeah uh yeah 20 gauge i i i just uh a good friend of mine are here in Texas had one uh money wasn't anything for that shotgun I guess that day because I think they they're at almost 3000 20 uh no about 25 um I mean I j I just fell in love with shooting it man it's it was fun to shoot um but yeah that that's that would that's definitely what mine would be the Browning the Wicked Wing kinda uh camo. 00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:28.719 How about waiters uh probably it's hard for you man if money wasn't a thing I'd definitely get on some sheen yeah if money wasn't a thing I'd get on some sheen um yeah I don't know man that's hard for me I like I like the uh and maybe it's just me being a fanboy but I I really do like the uh you know what nah I don't even care if money ain't it's yeah I don't care if she's I mean it's gonna be Sheen. 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:29.920 I think it's just one of those things. 00:53:30.000 --> 00:54:17.199 It's like a a staple cut type like sitka right um it's like we wearing uh I don't know Gucci over I don't even know man I'm gonna wear clothes like that um I mean I guess it's like I don't know wearing I don't even know but I I think for me it'd be the definitely a scene then about you oh man I'm pulling them up right now it'd be the Drake I would be you know they're a a thousand dollar waiter but they'd be the Drake BF or BMF I like what BMF stands for. 00:54:17.440 --> 00:56:03.920 Yeah uh they're kevar waiters the friends okay um yeah that you know I I have a I kind of have a love-hate relationship with waiters I kind of don't like paying over$500 for waiters I know during the last two three years um but man I I look at those uh those Drake BMF waiters and they're they look comfortable they're pretty nice I I you know I like the the Kedlar up front on them um you know right now I'm running about a$300 pair of lacrosse breathables um but if I had to if I had to swipe that car today that's what it would be all right ammo ammo money's not a thing um man if money's not a thing it's gonna be Shineer shells um their TSS three inch number six TSS I got that I I got to I gotta try some of them out I some of his prototypes this year um Shane and I was very very happy with those number six TSS were doing to um spec a lot of geese at 70 yards um but Shaneer shells is you know is is a death for steel is a is a price friendly uh average about 25 box for high-end steel um their TSS is going for$160 a box so that's just the price with everything that's going on in the world with TSS. 00:56:05.199 --> 00:57:33.360 So yeah that's what I if money wasn't a thing it'd be

Schneer shells um number six TSS and three inch uh I haven't shot uh and I bear made some good stuff I've seen I've seen clips of stuff like that um if money wasn't a thing I for honestly it's any TSS it'd probably be federal uh black cloud tss um or a bear's TSS that money wasn't a thing I mean I think you can't tons I mean it's king you can't go wrong um yeah it'd definitely be honest man I I I'm not as long as it's TSS I'm happy yeah decoys money anything see this one this one's is it's weird for me because there's a lot of good decoy companies um if money wasn't a thing I think I would buy different species of decoys from different companies you know if I was looking for wood ducks I'd get different wood duck fruit because there's some that I like more than others um there's some that I mean are we are we including motion in this or is it decoys? 00:57:33.920 --> 00:58:28.480 Uh just decoys motion motion we'll end with motions all right I I just and I'll give an example and we've talked about this I really like the and the they're a little bit I mean they're not crazy expensive but the wood ducks from uh the Academy the the um uh oh man we talked about this uh just lost my train of thought man I lose I do this a lot I think I'm I'm getting Alzheimer's or something but um the game winners the game winner yes like I really like their wood ducks I like them a lot I like the material it's made of um I I've had uh the decoys that I've had I've had some really nice tangle freeze I like those I like I mean I regardless of what what's going on but some of the GNHs I like some of their um their widgets really nice. 00:58:29.199 --> 01:01:28.400 I like uh I'm a fanboy but I mean I I don't stay fanboy but I I I do like I like them I like um uh oh god I got a couple of them uh hardcore decoys I like their their mallards you know I like uh I like theirs I like um I like Hit Higdon's battleship yeah I really like I really like those um so I mean I would say it's gonna be accumulation of a whole lot of decoys the money wasn't a thing I'm buying decoys off I mean I'm buying whatever whatever I can get get a hold of right so that's that's me when it comes to decoys I'm not a purist to when it comes to decoys um I like certain decoys in certain companies and the way they make the species I think the one that I think the for me anyways the best wood ducks that I've seen especially and the way I mean what they're the material they're made of and the size I really like um game winners uh decoys so how about you and what you think game winners you know that's a budget friendly so I'm the goose guy right I really like speckle belly and goose hunting everyone knows that I like spec hunting so if it was on Joe what I my dream spec spread is three dozen of the Dave Smith decoys which you know just in comparison for the Dave Smith decoys they're going about 490 for six decoys yes and I want three dozen of those and then I want and those would be in my you know my kill

zone and I would probably want because out here I like you know during certain times of the year I like running big spreads I'd want the outfitter pack 10 dozen of the SX decoys um full bodies and it it doesn't matter if I was hunting water or um dry I want these two brands they're floaters or they're full bodies I'd want the the 10 dozen SX decoys which are for full bodies runs about four grand with tax and everything with um three dozen of the Dave Smith decoys now for listeners and make yeah you know 13 dozen decoys do you really need all that at times um you know during certain times of the season I'd probably use three dozen of the SX and a dozen of the Dave Smiths in a nice kill zone or whatnot. 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:37.519 But I really really like you know those two brands those are probably my I think are they the best speckle belly decoys that I've seen on the market. 01:01:37.679 --> 01:02:19.440 Um now they already you already pay that pretty penny but for me those were those man I I really like I really really like those two brands of decoys when it comes to uh speckle belly geese yeah um so you're going with just speckle belly geese yeah I mean yeah if I was gonna get I'd be kind of in the same boat as you with the the duck decoys um yeah I would get wigeon and pintail would definitely be and any diver species would be a G and H. 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:30.159 And then man I've always from the time I was you know started hunting Tom till the time I seen these decoys brand is Avian X. 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:46.480 I I like their I like their wood ducks I like their mallards I like their teal I like some of their pintails I like you know I like them all but it would probably if money wasn't thing it'd be a mixture of G and H and Avian X. 01:02:47.679 --> 01:03:11.360 Yeah I didn't even mention that yeah Avian X got some good ones yeah um and both those are the real good decoys but for both of them it's a durability of both of those decoys it's the pants game durability I don't have to worry about decoys cracking I mean the only thing that's really gonna mess those decoys up is you is uh you or your friends shooting them. 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:42.320 Yeah definitely me shooting them um okay we'll get into uh motion so you want to go first or me well I I'll go first all right money wasn't a thing and I I have I I hope uh good old Brooke Richard is listening to this so he can send me a care package and stuff but it it's gonna be uh look I'm not against other products but it they're a little bit more expensive but they're I I've seen their products and I like them a lot. 01:03:42.480 --> 01:05:27.119 Um I it would be it would probably be half a dozen of the their uh um pulsator pros uh and that's the those splasher ones and then it'd be maybe four swimmers with their uh combo rod their uh their that magnetic rod attachment yeah and then I would get um uh and and I'm gonna have a mix it's gonna be widgeon in there there'll be some mallards

obviously and then their Flasher Pro which is their version of the spinning wing uh I'd give probably about half a dozen of those um and I one of their they had they have uh it's their swimmer trail rod that's what it was and then their their their version of that like a pulsator that just puts motion on the water and that's the uh I think they they have one that's like a uh maybe not but that one oh and the last one would be their I don't know if you've seen their new motion machine I'm just intrigued by it yeah it's a lot of I mean might be some stuff to carry but it's basically you put it you put three uh decoys on it and it dumps them I also it would I would also get probably about three of their uh finishing swimmers so those swimmers that dunk the head in the water while they're swimming I really like those so I mean I'm just kind of going off basically every motion decoy they kind of they have I'm gonna get all of them and I'm gonna get a remote for all of them and I'm gonna attach them and I'm going with it. 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.119 Like that that's it money wasn't a thing. 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:34.320 I'm I mean I think just those alone are I'm already over$2,000. 01:05:34.800 --> 01:06:02.159 Yeah so I'm gonna probably mimic you on all the Higdon I think right now for the spinning and I this is me being a um I was a huge and I still am I I still am a huge um uh lucky duck fan but uh man I when Higden came out with those spinning wing decoys I think hanging has the best Spinning Windico on the market right now. 01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.679 They have the absolutely the best swimmer on the market. 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:07.840 Uh hands down, the best swimmer. 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.239 And I like their pulsators. 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:20.639 So I would probably get two, three um other spinning, two, you know, actually. 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:25.360 Honestly, one of their of their uh swimming decoys with the attachment. 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.599 So I can hook up three other decoys. 01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:31.199 So they have almost four decoys swimming at once. 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:32.639 They're pulsators. 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:41.360 And um there would be one product from Mojo that I I really, really like. 01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:53.920 And when we seen it, I mean me and you seen it a couple years ago at um at uh the Delta Expo would be their mojo mallard machine. 01:06:54.559 --> 01:07:00.000 Um it's that one that kind of has like a it dunts itself, it dunks the whole butt. 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.480 And it kind of like gyrates and really throws that real big splash. 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:08.719 I like that movement, especially it's a butt-up decoy. 01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:12.880 You get to see the white bottom of the mallard, and it's moving around. 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.760 And I think anything the dabbler, right? 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:16.559 Or something like that. 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:22.079 No, it's called

the um the it's called the mojo mallard machine. 01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:23.840 Oh, yeah, I get what you're saying. 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:25.280 The one that that dumps down. 01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:26.480 Yeah, I forgot about that. 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:27.760 So you brought up a good point. 01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:29.679 I'm also including some placo flickers. 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.920 I am I am 100% sold on they're just an easy product. 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.079 You throw it in there and with within your spread. 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.119 I mean, just the flash makes it come alive for sure. 01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:59.599 And with the if you can get one or two, well, two or three of those those uh mallard, those mallard machines, and you're hunting the rice or shallow sheet water just enough to float it, it balances itself and it can the machine itself can hit the sediment on the bottom of your pond and kick up and do that and dirty up the water. 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.920 So it looks like live ducks tilling up the bottom of the water. 01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:07.679 So it's adding layers of of realism. 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:16.640 So you're getting that white balancing up, balancing up that decoy, that white movement from you know three, four hundred yards away. 01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:22.239 And then when those ducks are coming in and they're circling, they might get hung up you know on the last pass. 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:30.880 They're seeing that that agitation of the sediment in the water just to give them more of the realistic look. 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.920 Um, so yeah, that that's what that's where Joe would be on that one. 01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:37.359 Okay, last one. 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.000 All right, money wasn't a thing. 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:41.680 All right, or last two. 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:43.439 Boat and dog. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:45.119 Your boat and dog. 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:46.239 Which boat you're gonna get? 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:47.359 And dog. 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.600 And which kind of what dog you're gonna get? 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.119 Now, I'm assuming and money wasn't a thing, right? 01:08:53.439 --> 01:09:11.600 Um, and uh you can use obviously the the mecca of waterfowl for waterfowl hunters is a lab, but I mean we've we've seen um I mean there's there's been all kinds of different types of dogs that have that have been in the waterfowl community and competed and done amazing and stuff. 01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.239 But if you you're a boat and dog. 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:25.600 Dog, it would be a um it'd be a British lap from um what do you call it? 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.199 Okay, uh from um Southern O'Kennels. 01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.279 I I've I've seen Southern O'Kennel dogs. 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.079 Um Megan's cousin, my wife's cousin has one. 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:44.000 Uh I seen Bardon Ramsey with his dogs at um the Collars Banquet up in Stuttgart uh four or

five years ago. 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:45.920 Actually, a little bit longer than that. 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:49.119 I think it was 2008, 17 or 18. 01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:58.640 And I think those boats are I mean, those dogs are just um just complete awesome. 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.560 I mean, they're just workhorses. 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:06.000 Uh now, do you want to give your boat first or do you want me to give my dog? 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:08.159 You already gave your dog, didn't you? 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.560 I mean, uh, I'm looking at the boat I want. 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:11.199 All right. 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.600 So mine would be any prodigy. 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:17.359 Give me a prodigy that's you know 16 foot or more. 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:23.600 Um, I just love the prodigy boats with uh and I mean with a mud motor. 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:27.600 Uh if if I could put my own mud motor, it's gonna be a gator tail. 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.680 Uh, probably like the the third uh the 40XD Pro. 01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:34.720 Um give me one of those. 01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:37.840 Um that's gonna be mine. 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:43.680 As far as a dog, I mean I guess money wasn't a thing. 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:51.600 I I think if you uh man, it it just it's gonna be an Americ it's gonna be an American lab. 01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:59.119 Uh preferably, I love my yellow, but probably uh a black lab. 01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:11.600 Um just because they're, I guess, in the world of labs and dogs, they're known to put to uh to be the athlete, but not not not saying that you know chocolates and yellows aren't. 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:14.479 I mean they they're everybody has their preference. 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:21.439 I think everybody just has their preference, but we're we're talking about um just what the what the community has. 01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.319 But I mean, honestly, to tell you the truth, just an American lab. 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:24.800 Lab. 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:25.600 Yeah. 01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:32.319 What they say in the duck world black dogs, black trucks, black duck calls, black coffee. 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:39.199 But the boat I would want, surprising, isn't a super expensive boat. 01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:45.279 It'd be the Grizzly 1650T, the Max Prairie edition. 01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:51.199 Uh I would actually, it comes with a four-stroke Mercury. 01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:56.000 Uh, anyone that knows me, uh I'm getting rid of that Mercury. 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.159 Mercury, you can hate me for this. 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.760 I don't like Mercury's whatsoever at all. 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:03.119 Mercury, take that one. 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:05.359 I'd give me a tahatsu. 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:10.560 Uh I'd give me a 25 or 30 horsepower, four-stroke tahatsu odor. 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:14.319 Or a Honda. 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:16.159 Or a Honda. 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:17.439 Or a Honda. 01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:25.600 Yeah, I think, yeah, mine's definitely I mean, I've I've liked those prodigies since you know before I got my first bow. 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:27.359 Oh man, your first bow. 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.000 I I'm surprised you need to go back to War Eagle. 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:31.520 Your first bow is nice. 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:35.600 Yeah, I like I like War Eagle, but mine would definitely be a prodigy. 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:37.760 Um, they're just I mean, they're beautiful. 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:38.800 They're like Cadillacs. 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:39.680 Yeah. 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:41.439 They they're just beautiful. 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.600 Um I've seen them, uh, I've seen them firsthand. 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.960 Uh I've never been in them firsthand, but I've seen them firsthand. 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:50.000 I've seen the quality. 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:52.720 I mean, they're they're just they're Cadillacs. 01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.880 I uh yeah. 01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:01.600 Um and to be honest, I'm kind of lazy. 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.279 I would it wouldn't even be. 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:05.439 I mean, I guess it depends. 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:12.399 I mean, I would it would probably be uh a mini-sight console one that they have. 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:20.800 So uh this is I'm looking at the one they have their 1862 uh Razor mini-sight console with a Yamaha 90. 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:24.159 Um priced at$61,000. 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:25.359 Woo! 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:27.119 Yeah, buddy. 01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:29.600 Money ain't a thing. 01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:34.159 Like God, yeah, that would that would definitely be the boat. 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.640 I mean, 18 18 foot. 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:43.600 Um it's uh length is 18 feet, boat uh 60. 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:46.079 I mean, it's it's so beautiful. 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.359 Camo, Massio, Prodigy, Bottomland. 01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:54.720 Um, yeah, money wasn't a thing. 01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:59.920 Yeah, I said Chris isn't too much of a bright and prideful type of guy. 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.920 He's Chris is a pretty humble, but uh there would be signs if he won the lotto. 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:04.720 Yeah. 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:05.520 There would be signs. 01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:07.520 Yeah. 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:13.680 But yeah, I mean, I think uh if money wasn't a thing, man, I got excited looking at those boats, man. 01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:14.720 I didn't stop. 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.159 Chris is gonna come in. 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:21.840 Uh but yeah, I it would definitely be those money wasn't a thing, man. 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:26.880 I think if money also money wasn't a thing, where here's one last one. 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:38.800 I we can keep going, but we're gonna stop for a you're where you're gonna have your lease and where you're gonna have your five-day hunts at with as far as guide services, who

you're gonna go with. 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.560 Five-day, like a package hunt? 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:45.199 Yeah. 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:49.680 You're gonna go, you gotta go, hunt all exclusive, money ain't a thing. 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.199 You're not even cleaning your ducks, uh, you're not doing anything. 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:58.960 Uh-oh, you're talking about yeah, like uh days by you, honey break. 01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:06.640 Uh I mean, just uh riceling, like it just money wasn't a thing. 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:07.520 Man. 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:15.520 Are you you can go to Arkansas and Nebraska, you can go to Cal back to California, you can if money wasn't a thing. 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:26.960 Usually I will say, um, just because you know, we've all been there, is uh Honey Break, right? 01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:29.760 I'm I'd go to Honey Breaks, uh the Honey Break experience. 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:36.880 I've gotta I'm gonna do some um some veteran stuff over there, and those are solid people. 01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:41.600 Um but I would say I would go hunt. 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:48.720 Um I would go hunt with Tony Vandemore up in um Habitat Flats, Missouri. 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:56.000 Just I want to see if if it's if it's the hype that everyone makes it out to be. 01:15:56.479 --> 01:16:00.720 Um you know, everyone yells, some people call it cheating, some people call it magical place. 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.079 I kind of want to see it, because I have it. 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:08.640 I've never hunted that area. 01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:20.000 I've never hunted flood I've never hunted the flooded uh standing corn, which that you know I want to see if if if if that's all the hype what says it is. 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.520 Um and just their amenities. 01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:28.079 I have a second, my second one would be in Texas. 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.840 It would be Spec Ops Valde. 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.560 Um it's another area of you know somewhere I just I haven't hunted at. 01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:43.520 Um I've hunted Arkansas, I haven't hunted any type of big flooded timber in Arkansas. 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:51.439 Um but you know, any Whispering Wings or Whispering Oaks would probably my third. 01:16:51.680 --> 01:17:00.880 But those two would just because there's areas that I haven't hunted yet in styles of hunting that I haven't hunted yet, and I really wanna, those would be really cool for me. 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.800 Uh, what was your last one? 01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:08.159 Uh if money wasn't a thing, where would you have your lease and what would it be in? 01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:10.399 I'm assuming Ricefield, but where? 01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:13.840 You can go back, you can go anywhere in the U.S. 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.399 Hell, you can go anywhere in the country. 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.359 Do you anywhere in the US and anywhere in the country tempting? 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:20.319 Or you can go anywhere. 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.439 I mean, yeah, anywhere in the world that matters. 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:38.239 Um if I got if money wasn't a thing and I got to go anywhere, I I'm gonna tell you, I've got to hunt Arkansas, I've hunted Stuttgart, I've hunted Brinkley, I've hunted uh all over in the Northeast, which is great hunting. 01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.359 And you can go anywhere in the world, you can go to Argentina if you had a leaf. 01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:51.359 But if I had to go anywhere, it would be in mummy's not a thing. 01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:53.119 I'm gonna go, I'm going back to California. 01:17:53.199 --> 01:18:02.640 I'm going back to I am going back to either Lambertville or Calusa uh in the beach sink, and I'm getting me rice. 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:04.880 I'm getting me a rice field out there. 01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:13.199 Probably hopefully it would be butt up about a mile from the mile from that um Calusa refuge, a Delhi refuge. 01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:14.640 And that's where I would be. 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:21.199 That's where Joe would be hunting a private 500-acre rice release. 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:24.159 Yeah. 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:25.680 Big spreads. 01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:27.680 Yeah, that's where I'd be. 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:32.560 And money wasn't the so it wasn't a thing for my guy at God. 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.680 That's rough because you brought up some good ones. 01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:43.520 Um, but I'm gonna have to go just because I I when we met Roland, I did a deep dive in Days by You. 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:50.640 It'd probably be Days by You, 100%, and then Honey Break, just because we've been there. 01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:52.800 I mean, I I just loved it. 01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:56.319 And uh I just and you brought up a good one, Spec Ops. 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:57.119 I forgot about them. 01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:01.840 They'd be they'd definitely be my number three because you can do all kinds of hunting, just any hunting there. 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:02.880 If you want big game there, too. 01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:05.840 I think a lazy river, a movie theater blowing out, yeah. 01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:07.760 Yeah, come on. 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:11.199 Like, I'm like, yeah, that spec ops would definitely be there. 01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:18.800 But as far as like anywhere in the world, I would say get me a piece of land where I can hunt some hunt some ducks in Mexico. 01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:19.840 Really? 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:24.399 Just get me somewhere good food, good water. 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:27.039 I mean, good drinks. 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:28.880 Mexican food in California, right? 01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:31.279 We get we have really good Mexican California and we have some. 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.319 No, no, that's no, you don't have good water. 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:37.680 I've been to Imperial, I've been to Imperial Beach. 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.079 But uh we

have drinkable water. 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:44.319 Uh debatable. 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:45.279 Debatable. 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:47.119 I've been to some parts of California. 01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:48.399 It's kind of a little sketchy. 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:50.880 Anywhere in the LA area, I'm not drinking that water. 01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:52.880 Oh, yeah, that's 10 times. 01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:55.279 Definitely not drinking that water. 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.399 But um, but that I mean, I I would say that. 01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:18.720 And the only reason I say Mexico Man is because I went down a big like just rabbit hole of like looking at videos of like different lodges in Mexico and like where they hunt and you know, the type of hunting they do and the birds they get on, and it's and um I think that's and it's it's all it's all on the off the ghost, off the golf. 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:27.039 Kind of the same thing, like uh when you're hunting Matagordo Bay, but it's just I don't know, that would be my piece of land getting it there and just having it there. 01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:32.319 Now, cartels find out that I'm American, they might take it back, you can have it, homie, but I gotta hunt on it. 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.640 So I'm not I'm not playing this game. 01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:35.760 You can it's all you. 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.439 Put all the talents you want, bud. 01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:38.159 Yeah, yeah. 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:39.840 Just let me hunt. 01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:40.640 I don't care. 01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:46.159 But uh um I think I think that's that's me for sure, man. 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.000 I think uh that would be it. 01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:52.239 Uh and it really Dave's body was just one of the ones who we got to know Roland. 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:59.600 And I think that'd be I for me, it's more of like, man, I I I would actually get to be there with him and get to experience the hunt with him and him guiding. 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:01.439 So it would definitely be there. 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:02.560 Um, who knows, man? 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.760 One day I might just save up and let's go to Dave's body. 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:06.720 Yeah. 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:11.039 So but uh but I think that's it, man. 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:12.960 I thought this segment was great. 01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:18.800 Um we gotta uh get back to the lab and think what we're gonna do next season. 01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:30.159 Uh season's right around the corner for us, so we'll kind of worry about that for a little bit, but we'll have our little um our shooting the ship segments here, I guess, coming out. 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:32.000 So just check those out. 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.800 Uh we'll be talking about our season teal season. 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.720 You can talk about your whistling duck season in October. 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:40.079 Yeah, man. 01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:42.239 So we should have that. 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:42.960 We'll talk about it. 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:44.800 We'll talk about Dove season two. 01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:50.560 I know Doves are our pregame before everything, so kind of like our scrimmage before we get into the big game. 01:21:50.720 --> 01:22:05.760 So um so we'll talk about those and uh kind of let us know what you guys want to hear as far as like next season, what the next segment, I mean, what y'all want to what y'all want to hear from us and what we can do and kind of get people on to kind of give other opinions and stuff. 01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:11.039 So um other than that, man, you have anything before we go? 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:11.840 No, man. 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:15.760 Uh great way, great episode to finish our hunt on the budget. 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:21.520 Um ended up with it ended up with uh money thing balling, yeah, balling out. 01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:27.199 But um, yeah, for the viewers, man, I really guys hope that you guys enjoyed this series. 01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:32.960 Uh please reach out if you have any other questions or anything you guys, you know, or anything that we missed. 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:38.880 Um but yeah, man, I really um I mean with the viewers we couldn't be without you guys, man. 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:44.399 Uh I really appreciate you guys and thank you for all the support of the viewers and our uh sponsors. 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:49.600 I really, you know, there's some companies that believe in us, and I I really appreciate it. 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.600 And you guys' um support does not go unnoticed. 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:54.800 Yeah, 100%. 01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:56.319 Uh thank you. 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:58.319 And again, reach out to us if y'all have any questions. 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.279 Love to I mean, honestly, if you're ever in Texas, reach out to me. 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:04.560 I'd get love to get uh get on with a couple of yours. 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:08.800 Just uh um don't crisp call me too soon. 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:15.600 But uh, but like always, y'all have a good one and uh love and off there.