Full Transcript for FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 8 October 2026

Kmart that's selling them either. I'm sure you I don't know. I haven't been on Timu for a while, but I'm sure they're sold on Timu. I'm sure you can buy the cheap Chinese ones online elsewhere, not just Kmart. 00:02:50 Speaker 3: Does a retail ban in Australia stop anyone getting access to them? 00:02:54 Speaker 4: Well, no. I'm just glad it's starting a conversation about privacy concerns to do with these smart glasses. And hopefully, if any government anywhere, federal, state, anyone, if anyone's listening, there's a lot of people concerned about this. It'd be nice if you actually- did something. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: About it does anyone listening have smart glasses and has it made you rethink the use of them does it made you uneasy this it's not a revelation because to some extent i think we all appreciate maybe the tv's listening the vacuum cleaner might be listening. 00:03:26 Speaker 4: Yeah uh your phone certainly is. 00:03:28 Speaker 3: Your phone obviously is uh have we just numbed this now have you binged your smart glasses let us know folks 8223 0000 that's not the only A bit of AI that's in the news this morning. The Electoral Commission wants to ban the use of deepfakes during election campaigns, which I can't imagine anyone's going to have a great issue with. 00:03:48 Speaker 4: Who's using deepfakes? 00:03:52 Speaker 3: Well, the parties use them. 00:03:56 Speaker 7: What? 00:03:56 Speaker 3: Well, they use AI-generated images. 00:03:58 Speaker 4: Right. Do they? 00:04:00 Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson's recent video about that ad campaign. 00:04:04 Speaker 4: That was all AI. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: That's all AI. That was all AI. 00:04:07 Speaker 4: So would that be banned under this? 00:04:09 Speaker 3: I think that's the suggestion, that kind of stuff. Let's keep the election campaign pure. Now, I bet we've got hundreds of, if not thousands of people listening right now that have used AI to make an image, to generate a fake image, probably for fun, for family, maybe an invite to a birthday party. I saw one yesterday. The day before yesterday, someone was showing me an image that had been generated from who knows where. but someone had made it, and it was a mock-up of the Christmas pageant with the Premier riding in on a MotoGP bike and saying, you know, bikes, not baubles and stuff. It was some sort of funny thing. I don't know if it was from a political party or just a person. I guess that's the point. If you just strip the political party's capacity to do it, does it actually– will we notice? Because the world is so full of this stuff now. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: It is. It's everywhere. But I do think there is something to be said for– those in Parliament and those, you know, wanting to represent us for setting an example. And when you create an entire ad or an image or whatever it is that's used during an election period, you're taking people out of a job. That Pauline Hanson ad is removing jobs for actors. It's taking away, you know, a job for a director. It's taking away a job for a playwright or, you know, whoever it is. A whole production company loses work because of that. 00:05:28 Speaker 8: It's very. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: I think it's the antithesis of what the One Nation message is, which is jobs for Australians. Let's keep Australians in work. So I think it's a terrible example that political parties are setting if they're using AI. And I don't mind this call by the Electoral Commission, if for only the jobs aspect. But also, I'm sure it's where else can it go? Once political parties start using it for AI, everyone else is entitled to use their election paraphernalia. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: It gets normalised. I was of the view... obviously naively, that the whole thing now has such bad PR, bad karma, bad juju, that you wouldn't want to go down that path. Because most people react with great hostility to AI-generated stuff now. Oh, yeah. It's largely seen as lowbrow, as lazy. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: It's called slop. AI slop is the term online. 00:06:23 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: So, yeah, naively, perhaps I was hoping that, people with a political radar might say, let's stay away from using this kind of thing. It does prevent you from having those awkward scenarios. You would have been at these press conferences, Stace, before where, you know, ex-politician stands up in front of aggrieved business owner B who, you know, due to the government is, you know, struggling to make ends meet. And then they get asked, are you a member of the party? 00:06:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah. I've been a member of the ex-party my whole life. Yep. You don't get that with AI, obviously. 00:06:52 Speaker 9: No. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: No. 00:06:53 Speaker 4: You can control the message more. 00:06:55 Speaker 3: You'd absolutely control the message more. 00:06:57 Speaker 4: That one's going to go rogue with you. 00:06:59 Speaker 5: Indeed. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: 8223 0000 is our number. You can text us as well on 0448 081395. You know what? It almost happened then. 00:07:06 Speaker 4: I almost gave my mobile number. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: That's the first time that's ever happened. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: I need AI. 00:07:09 Speaker 10: 048 081395. 00:07:09 Speaker 3: That would have been bad. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, AI would not do that. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: AI would not have done that. 16 after 6, we'll be checking in with Bec Danaher on the other side of the. 00:07:27 Speaker 7: Knockdown. 00:07:28 Speaker 4: Bill 2. 00:07:29 Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. 00:07:33 Speaker 4: Metro Homes. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: They do it all for you. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: 19 after 6, it's the 8th of October. It's World Octopus Day. That's right, it's a thing. Which I think this is a moment for pause as a race. I think we just need to Have a moratorium on

days devoted to things. I love the octopus. Wonderful animal. Very intelligent. Very unique. Not endangered in any way, by the way. 00:08:00 Speaker 7: No. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: They're not on some UN watch list, you know, concerned about the future of the octopus. We don't need raising awareness for their habit. They're kind of doing all right. It's the eighth. They have eight legs. That's the justification. Is there anything left on planet Earth that doesn't have a day devoted to it or a round of the AFL? I think between the two- Everything has now been officially covered off on. 00:08:22 Speaker 4: But isn't the AFL refusing to do a mental health round? 00:08:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, or a gambling round. 00:08:26 Speaker 4: Anti-gambling. 00:08:27 Speaker 3: Anti-gambling round. Every round is a gambling round. 00:08:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, good point. 00:08:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. The dangers of gambling round. 00:08:32 Speaker 4: I recently found out my birthday is the same day as, which celebrates my favorite food, cinnamon roll day. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: Cinnamon Rolls have a day. 00:08:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got a day, which is also my birthday, which is nice. 00:08:44 Speaker 3: Was there some pressing dilemma in the Cinnamon Scroll world that required them to. 00:08:47 Speaker 11: Have a day? 00:08:47 Speaker 5: I don't know. 00:08:48 Speaker 4: There was no consultation on it, but I approve of it regardless. 00:08:51 Speaker 8: All right. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: That's all right. That's a sign. I think we've got a day for just about anything. If you can think of something that doesn't have a day, we'd love to hear it. I bet we can find one. 024808 1395. Today is an important day in all seriousness because it's another terrific initiative of– like the big freeze at the MCG and the freeze that we have at Adelaide Oval, raising money for the research into and fight against motor neuron disease. Danaher's Drive takes that fight outside of the football arena and onto our roads. Today, those roads are here in South Australia. The Drive to the Athelstan Football Club, Lunch at Lot 100, Harndorf, then the Zoo, then tomorrow from the Adelaide Central Market to Port Elliot, to Goolwa, McLaren Vale, back to Adelaide Oval. And on Saturday, Barossa Park Oval, Avenue of Palms, Barossa Valley, Gibson Wines and the Amora Hotel. Sounds like actually a really fun three days in addition to doing some really important work. Bec Danaher, Neil Danaher's daughter and FITE MND Grant Program Director joins us on 5AA Breakfast. Bec, good morning to you. 00:09:55 Speaker 12: Good morning. 00:09:57 Speaker 13: Good morning. 00:09:57 Speaker 12: Excited to be here in South Australia for the first time for the Dunhoos Drive. 00:10:01 Speaker 3: Great to have you here. You get to experience some beautiful parts of the state as well. Weather today is going to be great. It gets a little bit dicey after that. The nice thing about your foundation, among many, Bec, is that

it doesn't seem to know state borders. It must feel like everywhere you go... there's a similar level of support. At least it feels like that to us. 00:10:21 Speaker 12: Oh, it definitely feels like that, absolutely. The Australian community as a whole have been amazing supporters from the very start. And what we always said is that MND doesn't know borders, so neither do we. We need to make sure that we're getting out. Because I think for those that are experiencing MND, when they see us out in force in their local areas, it just, again, reinforces that they're not alone in this fight. 00:10:45 Speaker 4: And, Bec, I wanted to ask you about the reportable condition of this disease. Well, this condition, rather, because it's been a conversation in South Australia lately that it's not a notifiable condition. And I know other states have moved to change this because it means when we look at the statistics, which are shocking enough … they're probably not as solid as they should be. So today, two Australians will die from MND, two more will be diagnosed, but we don't actually report this disease appropriately here in South Australia. So it could even be more than that. 00:11:23 Speaker 14: Absolutely. 00:11:24 Speaker 12: And the best way to fight this disease is by knowing it as best as we can. And without having this information, it just makes our job a lot harder. So what we're seeing in New South Wales, they've led the charge. They've made it a notifiable disease. They're already getting more information on it. And it helps us in the fight to find a treatment and a cure, but it also helps from a care angle. So I know there's plenty of conversations going around in many states and plenty here in South Australia about seeing if we can change it to a notifiable disease. I think it would be terrific if that is the case. It's just we've got to find a way to find a treatment and a cure. It is an absolute beast. That's what Dad called it. So if we arm ourselves with the information, it just gives us that better chance. 00:12:06 Speaker 3: Are we, in Australia, global leaders in this fight now? 00:12:09 Speaker 5: We are. 00:12:09 Speaker 12: We are, which is just kind of a head spin from where we started. I remember working with Dad. We came together as an organization in 2015. And I distinctly remember trying to get a trial here, I would say 2016 and 2017, from an international entity. And They looked at us and said, you're not part of this fight. You're just too small. You're too far away. We don't want you here. And then here we are. We are one of the largest global investors in M & D research. We have this thing called the Global Roundtable where the best minds come to Australia because they're seeing what we're doing here. We are kicking goals. We are leading the charge and we just need to keep doing that. 00:12:53 Speaker 3: How can people support you guys on your trek over the next couple of days? 00:12:56 Speaker 12: Well, we would absolutely love if people are in the Appleston area to come down and say hello because we'll be there today between 9.30 and 11 o'clock. But there's lots of different ways people can support us. Even just jumping on our website to learn a bit what we do. We've got a beautiful Jayco raffle happening at the moment as well through RaffleTix. You can duck into Chemist Warehouse who are major partners of ours and they're running a point of sale throughout the cash register area. a donation. There's just so many different ways to get involved. But if you see us, we've got these very distinct polos. You can't miss us. Come and say g'day. We'd love to meet as many people along the way. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure they'll come out and support you because you guys just do remarkable work. Bec, good on you. Bec Danaher, Neil Danaher's daughter and the 5M & D Grant Program Director for Danaher's Drive here in South Australia for the first time. They've done it in New South Wales and Victoria. And having it here in South Australia is going to be really, really special, I think. People will get behind it. Rob, I thought this was a joke, says, coming up on the 20th of this month is International Sloth Day. Rob, I can slowly get into that. He also says, we need a, the, I can't hear you, you're on mute, Teams meeting day. That one might not exist. Sloth Day legitimately is coming up on the 20th of this month, though. 00:14:14 Speaker 4: Michael in Ridleyton also points out we don't have a World Frog Cake Day. We don't. I looked it up. We do have World Frog Day, which is when Frog Cake Day is also celebrated. 00:14:24 Speaker 3: How would the frogs feel about sharing their day? 00:14:27 Speaker 4: With the cake that resembles them. 00:14:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the consumption of a frog. 00:14:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. 00:14:30 Speaker 3: Would they see that as really insensitive? 00:14:32 Speaker 4: I also think we need a... incorrect name day yes so um in his message michael sorry to call you out he said hi will and sarah and a little bit earlier we got a text from someone who said hi david and stacy that's good so maybe today is world incorrect name day call people. 00:14:48 Speaker 3: Whatever the hell you want day that's all right we're not we don't mind zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five keep texting we've been called worse we're gonna check uh the weather 17.7 degrees outside at the moment this is the warm one this week, so nearly 18 degrees. It feels a bit cooler than that out there at the moment, but it won't by probably about 12.30 today. You're starting to get temperatures up around 27, 28 degrees shortly after midday, throughout the afternoon, 28. Today is the hot one. If you were planning on going and maybe having a swim, this is your day. I tell you what, it won't be tomorrow. Drops down to 23 tomorrow, 8 to 20 millimetres of rain. It's going to be wet tomorrow. Saturday, 20 degrees and maybe a drizzle around the place.

Funny old week because then Sunday, back up to 27, but still wet. Zero to four millimetres on Sunday. And then the big change comes through late Sunday into Monday. So the start of next week. 00:15:42 Speaker 13: Yeah. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: Grimace is right. 18 degrees Monday, drizzly. 15 the top on Tuesday and 16 the top on Wednesday. 00:15:50 Speaker 10: No way. 00:15:53 Speaker 3: Bit of everything. Very spring weather at the moment in Adelaide. Tom Wren has just sprung into the studio for us. Agostino Mitsubishi's demo clearance on now. Savant Pajero, Sport ASX, Triton and Outlander, Nailsworth and Mawson Lakes. Morning, Rennie. Morning, Will. 00:16:04 Speaker 8: Well, we said this time yesterday we wanted to see a Sixers win. Unfortunately, not the case. 00:16:09 Speaker 3: Two and four. And it wasn't pretty either. 00:16:12 Speaker 8: It was not pretty. And the problem is you can't ask for much more from Bryce Cotton, Nick Rukosevic. 33 points each. I mean, that's huge. 00:16:21 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:16:21 Speaker 15: On. 00:16:22 Speaker 8: Any other measure, normally if two players get you 66 points in a game, you're winning comfortably. But they didn't. So they lost by five points, two and four. Like you said, Will, I don't think it's a coaching issue. It's not a– it's an injury problem. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: At full strength, this is a squad that will contend to win. 00:16:39 Speaker 16: Yes. 00:16:39 Speaker 8: The question is– Where's the depth? 00:16:41 Speaker 3: Can they keep themselves above water for long enough that everyone gets back and healthy? 00:16:46 Speaker 8: That's right. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: Because it's starting to become a bit of a hole. Again, I think the talent's there and the coaching quality's there. It will be right. But they might need the season to run about 15 extra games. 00:16:56 Speaker 5: That's right. 00:16:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. So, concerns. Definitely concerns. Two and four. You know, losing at home. They've lost two of their last three at home. You need to protect your home court. So, it's disappointing. So, the Sixers, some issues there. The Sheffield Shield... Title defence got underway yesterday. Pretty good start. The bowlers did their job. They bowled Victoria out for 244, but Jake Weatherall missed out with the bat. They won for four. So we'll see how that all goes. And the trade period is intriguing, isn't it? I was just mentioning before, Essendon, who are notoriously sort of stonewalling everything, they're just facilitating trades left, right and centre. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: It's a whole brand new Essendon. Well, it hasn't really worked for them, has it, over the last 27 years? 00:17:40 Speaker 11: Mm-hmm. 00:17:40 Speaker 3: 26, 25? Yeah. When was the last one? 2001. 00:17:45 Speaker 8: 2004, I think. 00:17:46 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay. 00:17:46 Speaker 8: Last final one. But Premiership 2001 or 2000. 00:17:49 Speaker 10: 2000. 00:17:49 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, Will. So maybe they're just turning a new leaf. And I like it from Mark McVeigh just saying, okay, let's just get this done. Get them out. And Zach Merritt was 12 months too late. They should have done that last year. Yeah, they still haven't. Hindsight's a beautiful thing, of course. And then they've just gone with Jordan Ridley. 00:18:05 Speaker 3: See ya. 00:18:06 Speaker 8: Bye. And look, it probably means short-term pain, but they need draft capital. They need young players. They need to turn over that list. So they're getting busy. 00:18:15 Speaker 3: Crows aren't shutting down the Nick Murray conversation. 00:18:18 Speaker 8: No, they're not. I think there's a bit going on there behind the scenes. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: I feel like if that was a no deal, it would have been no deal out of the agenda, and they haven't gone there yet. 00:18:30 Speaker 8: They haven't gone there. I suspect, Will, that they'll wait for North Melbourne to come up with a fairly juicy offer because the Crows have got the whip hand. They've got two years to run on his contract, Nick Murray. And if North Melbourne throw in Luke Davies-Uniak or someone. 00:18:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah. 00:18:48 Speaker 3: I love Nick Murray. I think he's terrific, but I would drive him to the airport. That's right. 00:18:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, you'd say, I'll take you to Arden Street myself. 00:18:54 Speaker 4: I'd drive him all the way to Arden Street. 00:18:56 Speaker 8: And I love Nick. 00:18:57 Speaker 3: I think he's terrific. 00:18:57 Speaker 8: He's a great player. But he's got a good deal on the table and good on him. He wants to play. 00:19:03 Speaker 3: Fair enough. 00:19:04 Speaker 8: And fair enough. But if North Melbourne, if you want him, pay up. Give us something. So I think there's a fair bit of that. 00:19:09 Speaker 5: Going on behind the scenes. 00:19:10 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by that one. Good on you, Rennie. 00:19:11 Speaker 8: Good on you. 00:19:11 Speaker 5: Thanks, guys. 00:19:15 Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 00:19:23 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:19:27 Speaker 3: 20 minutes to seven. Has anyone ever had a dog that's consumed a grass seed before? It can be deadly for the dog and hellishly expensive for the owner as well. There was the famous case involving Sapo, one of their terrific dogs that went through this hellacious process. He didn't end it. Bandit in the end. Thank you for that. We got alerted to the fact there's a lot of seagrass out there at the moment and a lot of these seeds around. And so dog owners are taking precautions. 00:19:58 Speaker 16: Dr. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Derek's going to join us in just a moment with more information. But have you lived through this, folks? Let us know. 8223 0000. Lots of text on a range of subjects in that first half hour, though. 00:20:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rob's got a text about smart

glasses, and we've been talking about them for some time. He said, if smart glasses have benefits for people with low vision or other issues, why not make them a prescription item? 00:20:18 Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea. 00:20:19 Speaker 4: I like the idea of that. And Dion says, my uncle wears prescription glasses that look like smart glasses, so he now regularly gets questioned about them. 00:20:28 Speaker 3: Oh, no. 00:20:29 Speaker 14: Yeah. 00:20:29 Speaker 4: Thick rimmed glasses shame. 00:20:31 Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah. 00:20:34 Speaker 4: Which I don't mind. At least people are questioning. I hope they're polite when they're questioning, but yeah. And we're talking about days. It's World Octopus Day. 00:20:42 Speaker 14: Yes. 00:20:42 Speaker 4: Who knew? Brent says we need National Hobbies Day. Stay home. Do it for your mental health and wellbeing. 00:20:47 Speaker 5: I like that. 00:20:48 Speaker 4: Anything to get a four-day work week. 00:20:50 Speaker 3: World Hobbies Day. 00:20:52 Speaker 4: Let's have a stay-at-home World Hobby Day. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: World Hobby Day is celebrated annually on February 26th. This is my point. 00:20:58 Speaker 8: It already exists. 00:20:58 Speaker 3: You can't come up with a day that doesn't exist. 00:21:00 Speaker 4: I'll tell you one that doesn't exist from Raymond. Frustrated Fisho's Day. A day for fishermen who are in name only and struggle to catch anything but a cold or a sunburn. 00:21:10 Speaker 3: That's a good one. I don't think that one does exist. 00:21:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: Keep them coming in, 04808 1395 or call us on 8223 0000. Dr Derek McNair from the Parade Nord Veterinary Clinic joins us. Dr Derek, good morning to you. 00:21:24 Speaker 14: Good morning. 00:21:25 Speaker 3: So these grass seeds, I think it's not news to dog owners that they can be deadly for your pet. Are there any signs about entering a season that's going to be particularly good or bad on this front? 00:21:39 Speaker 14: Around every season. So it generally... The things to avoid are sort of areas where there's long grass, where you think there's going to be a lot of grass seeds flying around. So, I mean, what you can do at home is obviously just keep your own lawn quite short. But every year we get dogs with grass seeds in various places causing various problems. And last week was actually the first grass seed of this season that we saw was last week at the clinic. 00:22:13 Speaker 4: Oh, okay. In a paw? 00:22:15 Speaker 14: Yes, it was in a paw, yes. So usually, fortunately, they can be fatal and very difficult and horrible to deal with. But 90 or 95% of them, I would say, that we see are either in the paws between the toes or they get in the ears or a few also... get in the eyes and get under the eyelids, which is not very pleasant for the dog at all. 00:22:43 Speaker 3: Why are they so dangerous? 00:22:47 Speaker 14: If you look at them, they're like miniature darts or miniature arrows. And so

they only move in one direction. They've got a sharp point at one end and a sort of a flailing tail at the other end. So once they get stuck in the hair of the dog anywhere, wherever they tend to land, and the dog moves... then the grass seed moves as well and it moves in the direction in which it's pointing. So that's why once they get in there, they generally move into the dog wherever they happen to be. So if you've just been out on a walk, then if your dog starts licking at its paw, have a look because often once it just starts, you'll just catch the grass seed when it's sort of halfway in and you can actually just pull it out before it becomes buried under the skin. 00:23:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. You've got to make sure you find it though and they can be a bit inconspicuous. They're sort of that light colour, same colour as a lot of dogs fur like Murray. 00:23:47 Speaker 14: Yes, if you have a dog like Murray with a pale coloured coat, then they're very difficult to see and usually you'll only get warnings when they start licking their paws or if they start shaking their heads if it goes into their ears, but they can. I mean, there was the story that They can, unfortunately, migrate anywhere. Years ago, when I worked at Melbourne Vet School, the surgery department had to remove a lung from a dog because a grass seed had gone into the lung and caused a foreign body reaction in the lung, which had ended up killing that piece of lung. And so that piece of lung had. 00:24:24 Speaker 8: To be removed. 00:24:25 Speaker 14: Fortunately, that is not super common, but it does happen. It can get into the spine and cause paralysis and All these sorts of things. So keeping your lawn short and if you've got a hairy dog, then getting a groomer to trim its paws regularly and trim the hair around its ears will reduce the risk and increase the chance that you'll find the grass seed if they happen to start getting stuck in there. 00:24:53 Speaker 4: That's a good tip. 00:24:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, terrific information as always, Dr. 00:24:57 Speaker 6: Derek. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. And hopefully, whilst we don't want to do you out of work, we'd be very happy if you don't have to deal with any grass seeds from dogs in the near future. 00:25:06 Speaker 14: I'd rather make my money out of happier events. 00:25:09 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:25:10 Speaker 3: Routine vaccinations and things like that. 00:25:12 Speaker 14: Routine vaccinations. 00:25:14 Speaker 15: Bring them all in. 00:25:15 Speaker 3: Good on you, Dr. Derek. 00:25:16 Speaker 10: Dr. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: Derek McNair of the Parade Nord Veterinary Clinic. Chris and Surrey Downs has called in on this. Morning, Chris. 00:25:22 Speaker 14: Yeah, good morning. 00:25:24 Speaker 13: My little mate, he's deceased now, bought a collie. He's going around looking very anxious. He's going back probably about a year. And I've noticed he's got a grass seed in the corner of his eye. It's between the eyelid type of thing and the eye. And I sort of looked at it and I thought, no, I can't get this thing out. It's just an in-between type of thing. So I rang about three vets around here. And three vets said, no, we're not open. We can't take it. And I said, you're joking. They said, no, no, we're just not open. We're closed up. That's it. So anyway, I got hold of one down at Anzac Highway and I explained the situation to them. They said, yeah, bring him down. So I brought it down there. Two girls, I took the dog inside, et cetera, and that. The girls had a look at it. They said, yeah, leave it with us. So I thought, oh, you know, it's going to be good. Went in there about a half hour later. Out comes the little mutt looking bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. And the girl said, here's the grass seed. We got it out. And they got it out of the corner of the eye. And I said, how bad was it? They said it was just on the side of the eyelid. and not quite in there. So, you know, we were lucky to get it out. 00:26:42 Speaker 7: That's lucky. 00:26:43 Speaker 13: And, uh, yeah, I said, what do I owe you? They said, don't worry about it. 00:26:47 Speaker 3: Is that right? Oh, that's beautiful. My next question was going to be how much that experience cost. 00:26:52 Speaker 13: But I was, I was looking into the big money type thing, you know, like the wallet was going to get burnt. And no, when they did that, I, I couldn't, you know, say thank you to him enough. 00:27:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. Still good people out there, Chris. 00:27:06 Speaker 4: That's lovely. 00:27:07 Speaker 13: Oh yeah. 00:27:08 Speaker 12: Yeah. 00:27:09 Speaker 13: The thing that gets me, though, for emergency vets, I don't know whether I got the wrong night or the wrong people, but there isn't many around the northeast area. 00:27:19 Speaker 4: No, there's not. 00:27:21 Speaker 3: Maybe our listeners will have some suggestions on that front, or maybe you too have been in a similar situation where you've had an emergency situation with your animal and you've found yourself unable to take it anywhere. I mean, going from the northeast Anzac Highway is Hell of a trip. Thank you for that, Chris. Really appreciate it. Let's head to the Weather Bureau. Ursula Connor is on duty on this Thursday morning. Ursula, this is the hot day. 00:27:43 Speaker 6: That's right, and we've already started off pretty warm today. 17 degrees in the city currently, and that's all we got down to last night. But yes, plenty of sunshine on the forecast today. Some sort of light to just getting moderate northerly winds for much of the day today. We've got Adelaide headed for a top of 28, Glenelg 27, Elizabeth 29, Noarlunga 26, Mount Barker 27 degrees today. 00:28:11 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Ursula. Thank you. Get out there and enjoy the nice sunshine today, folks, because early part of next week, you're going to be reminiscing about today. Let's head to Safehole. Senior Constable Scott James on the line. Scott, a man's been arrested going

through the backyard of a home in the western suburbs. 00:28:26 Speaker 15: Yes, that was just before 12 this morning. Police were called to Bishop Street in Renown Park following reports that an unknown suspect had entered the victim's yard and stolen tools and some other items. Western District Patrols were quick to that area but weren't able to locate the suspect who was last seen on Bolton Street. Following investigations, about 1.30 this morning, patrols attended an address in Renown Park where the suspect was located and arrested without incident. He was charged with unlawfully on premises and theft and he's refused bail to appear in the Magistrates Court later today. 00:28:57 Speaker 4: And a man's been arrested after breaking into a car at Welland, Scott. 00:29:01 Speaker 15: Yeah, so just after 2.30 this morning, the occupant of a Frederick Street home alerted the police after a man was seen jumping his fence. And they've also reported their car had actually also been broken into. Western District Patrol, again, were quick to that scene and set up cordons around the area. And then Police Dog Edge was called in to assist with a track in the area. A man fitting the description provided by witnesses was then located on Bertie Street. And an 18-year-old man from West Hind Marsh was arrested. and he was charged with illegal interference of the motor vehicle and being unlawfully on prems and also breaching bail. And he was also refused bail to appear in the magistrates' court later today. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: All right, Scott, thank you. Some good police work there. Senior Constable Scott James from... SAPOL. Our resident stats man says there is a stats day. It's October 20, but it's only acknowledged every five years. So the next world stats day, stats nerds, is going to be 2030. 00:29:48 Speaker 4: I looked up why the United Nations has decided on a five-year cycle and to give organisations enough time to have enough data between cycles. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: Oh, for the stats people. I was going to say, it's not because we're out of days to the point of this whole conversation. There's a day for everything. 00:30:06 Speaker 4: No, they want to give statistical systems enough time to make measurable progress between milestones. 00:30:11 Speaker 5: No, okay. 00:30:12 Speaker 3: That's a very statistician-driven response, having a day. 00:30:15 Speaker 4: We're overthinking world days, people. The UN does not need to get involved in the days. 00:30:20 Speaker 6: Of the year. 00:30:21 Speaker 3: That is superb. Bed, thank you. We're going to check traffic and come back with more in just a moment. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof designed, manufactured and installed locally by Lubehouse. 00:30:32 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 00:30:40 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:30:47 Speaker 3: Six minutes to seven. I want to just canvas the audience, and there's a lot of opinions on this that I think are entirely worthy and maybe entirely in opposition to one another. Do we need paid parking in Harndorf? 00:31:00 Speaker 4: I don't think we need paid parking anywhere. 00:31:03 Speaker 3: It maybe needs the wrong... Mind you, some people that live in Harndorf might say the congestion on the main street, if it can be alleviated, and we can share in the. 00:31:16 Speaker 3: The wealth that's created by our city, our little town, being somewhere that people want to go to, I could see locals might think there's some merit in an idea like this, presuming, of course, that they aren't the ones that are occupying the parks that would subsequently become paid. But the Mountbarker Council has revealed its intent to start charging for parking on Harndorf's main street. I've been to Harndorf, I can't think how many times in my life. I'm not sure I've ever got a park in the main street. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: No. 00:31:41 Speaker 4: Who's lucky enough to jag a park in the main street anyway? 00:31:44 Speaker 3: That's tougher than winning the St. John lottery. Way tougher. So they want to introduce a three-hour parking limit and create new off-street parking for longer parking to reduce congestion, manage overflow into residential streets. That That was my first thought when I heard this. Well, I know residential street parking is something that deeply irritates people up in the Handorf area. Surely this just exacerbates that problem then. So what we want to do is put it out to you, folks that travel to Handorf, people who live in Handorf, people who run businesses in Handorf. Is this an idea with merit or is this just a cash grab? 8223 0000, do you see any value in paid parking along the street there or is this just a council trying to, improve a revenue stream. 00:32:28 Speaker 11: Yep. 00:32:28 Speaker 4: We'll get you on the line. We'll put you straight on after seven o'clock. We want to canvas this. 00:32:31 Speaker 12: Yeah. 00:32:32 Speaker 4: Let's help out the council. We've been helping out Adelaide City Council. 00:32:35 Speaker 3: We've been very generous to councils. 00:32:37 Speaker 7: Yep. 00:32:37 Speaker 4: So let's help out the Hills Council with this one. Isn't this a disincentive for people to go to Harndorf's Main Street? 00:32:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. Unless, unless as a by-product, I'm intrigued by what they mean when they say they're going to improve off-street car parking. So if this is revenue that then they can build a car park there that... And I just can't imagine this is what it's going to be, but I'm just trying to hypothesise on a scenario where this might be to people's benefit, then I could get it. Because parking is... At the moment, parking itself is an impediment to going through Harndorf because you think, crikey, I'm not going to get to see anything. 00:33:17 Speaker 4: And do we trust councils

enough that if they introduce paid parking on the street and they use that revenue to build a parking station... Do we trust them enough that they'll keep that station free? 00:33:27 Speaker 3: Hell no. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: They'll then charge you to park in there. I can guarantee it. 00:33:31 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 8223 0000. Paid parking on the main street of Arndorff, folks. What are your thoughts? 00:33:39 Speaker 4: The top seven before seven. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: We've been talking about the fact that there are days for everything. It's hard to find something for which there isn't a dedicated day now. Today is World Octopus Day. Just repeating, the octopus, no danger whatsoever. Love the octopus. Do we need to raise awareness? I'm not so sure. I don't want to offend the octopus people, but it feels like we've reached peak day. 00:33:59 Speaker 5: All right? 00:34:00 Speaker 3: Enough with the days. 00:34:01 Speaker 4: I'm really interested in how you determined what animals you like, because you love the octopus. 00:34:05 Speaker 5: I love the octopus. 00:34:06 Speaker 4: You don't want to offend the octopus people, but you're happy to offend the panda people. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: You don't love the panda people. Well, the octopus... I can take you through my metric for determining animal worthiness. The octopus, it has adjusted to the world and it is doing wonderful things. It can exist. The panda takes no responsibility in the continuation of its own species. In fact, we're the only things keeping them around because they look good. 00:34:30 Speaker 4: We have to artificially inseminate. 00:34:31 Speaker 3: Correct. There are other less attractive animals. I have a sympathy for unattractive animals because nobody cares about them and their breeding programs. They have to do it themselves. Seven before seven, songs about the ocean. Number one. Seven. Bit of Rod Stewart in number seven. In the number six spot. 00:34:58 Speaker 5: Oh, The Little Mermaid. 00:34:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, good one. 00:34:59 Speaker 7: Number six. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: Number five. 00:35:01 Speaker 10: The B-52s. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: That would have been David's favourite. 00:35:03 Speaker 5: He won't believe that. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: It's not number one. Number four. 00:35:26 Speaker 8: I think number four. Number four. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Should be the state anthem with August. I mean, it won't be yellow, obviously. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: No, a bit too obvious. 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Ringo Starr's songwriting triumph, Yellow Submarine. Number three. 00:35:41 Speaker 17: If everybody had a boat across the USA, then everybody'd be certain. 00:35:49 Speaker 3: Bit of the Beach Boys in the number three spot. Number two. 00:35:53 Speaker 8: I remember you. 00:35:55 Speaker 5: By undercraft In the sky, lightning flash Temples flare round the hole If you dare. 00:36:01 Speaker 8: I just spent six months in a. 00:36:04 Speaker 5: Leaky boat Split. 00:36:09 Speaker 3: Ends, six months in a leaky boat. And the number one spot on this special day for the Octopus had to go to this. 00:36:17 Speaker 8: I'd like to be under the sea In an octopus's house. It has to be that one. 00:36:24 Speaker 3: In a shade. 00:36:25 Speaker 4: Hello. 00:36:27 Speaker 8: Where's Henry the Octopus? 00:36:29 Speaker 3: Henry the Octopus? 00:36:29 Speaker 4: The Wiggles? 00:36:31 Speaker 3: Big day for Henry too. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: Big day? 00:36:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:36:33 Speaker 4: What about Baby Shark? No Baby Shark? I know Quinton will be upset there's no Baby Shark. 00:36:37 Speaker 3: No, thank God we didn't play Baby Shark. Have you gone through a Baby Shark stage with Molly yet? 00:36:41 Speaker 8: No, no, no. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: Oh, yes. 00:36:43 Speaker 3: We had Baby Shark and Mummy Shark and, you know, we had Will Went Crazy Shark for a while there too. 00:36:49 Speaker 7: Mamma mia. 00:36:50 Speaker 13: Here I go. 00:36:51 Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:37:04 Speaker 3: Seven after seven. Good morning to you for joining us for the first time on this Thursday, the 8th of October. The sun is up over the hills on what is going to be the warm day. You don't need to check the forecast beyond knowing that in this topsy-turvy weather, this is the day you dress for heat. 28 degrees as we're expecting for the top. hopefully we get there sometime around 12.31pm today, but it looks like it is going to be an absolutely magnificent day. Stay with us because it's going to be a magnificent next hour. David Koch will join us. We missed Koshy yesterday, but we've located him. We've got him on the program today. We'll talk money, we'll talk port, we'll talk all sorts of things with Koshy. Matt Abraham after 7.30 as we determine the week's biggest louver. And then a little bit later in the morning, we'll continue a conversation we started in the first hour with regard to smart glasses. And Kmart and some retailers now, taking the decision not to stock them any longer. And it goes to a concern over privacy, but not the concern over privacy that we've been talking about on the program. We'll explain all after eight o'clock today. We got a lovely text through from Sharon. I just want to mark this, Sharon, just so you're aware and others that might be thinking. Sharon sent us through a lovely text about the passing of the wonderful Peter Godfrey. And I'll talk a little bit about that after eight o'clock. today, and we'll read your text out at that point in time, Sharon, but we'll make some time for a truly wonderful human being, Peter Godfrey, who has sadly passed away. We'll get to that after 8 o'clock. Lots of texts on Harndorf. Lots of calls on Harndorf and the prospect of paying for Main Street parking. Let's go to Judith. Is there any merit in this idea, Judith?

00:38:41 Speaker 18: None whatsoever. 00:38:44 Speaker 4: Not a fan, Judith. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: No, no. 00:38:46 Speaker 18: Look, we love Arndorf. 00:38:50 Speaker 19: We go there quite. 00:38:51 Speaker 18: Often, and it's like stepping back in time. It's just a beautiful little village. 00:38:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:38:58 Speaker 18: And actually, we went up there for our 50th, and the main house in the main street, three quarters of an hour before we were due to book in for our anniversary... They rang us and told us that they'd more or less gone through the hoop. They couldn't offer the booking anymore. That was really disappointing. But we have gone back because we love Bierenberg. But if they bring in paid parking, honestly, we will not be going anymore. 00:39:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the good news is about Birenburg is you can park. They've got great parking on the premises. But, yeah, in the main street. 00:39:29 Speaker 18: Well, they have, but how many people will park there? 00:39:31 Speaker 5: That's a good point. 00:39:33 Speaker 3: That's a bit of a trek to the main street. But, yeah, that's a reasonable point. Good on you, Judah. Thank you. I love going to Birenburg. 00:39:38 Speaker 7: I know. 00:39:39 Speaker 3: That's so much fun. Let's go to Arendelle. Jenny, what do you think about this paid parking concept? 00:39:43 Speaker 9: Oh, I think they're just moving the problem elsewhere. 00:39:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:48 Speaker 9: As I said in my text, my daughter, her husband and two children live in Pine Avenue, a fair way up the street, and they have those problems now quite often and quite often during the week and the weekends are worse. So they're just moving a problem from one street to another. All the cars and the people in the main street of Harndorf in the main street are just part of the... charm of it and the popularity of it because it's such a beautiful place. I mean, if they really wanted to take the cars out, maybe they should have a car park at the bottom, at the entrance of the freeway exit and a shuttle bus up to the main street. I guess that would cost the council and they wouldn't make money. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not in a bind. This problem, in inverted commas, is a byproduct of they are the council overseeing an incredibly popular tourist destination in South Australia, okay? 00:40:55 Speaker 5: Yes, yes. 00:40:56 Speaker 3: So the sympathy only goes so far. If they were to do something like Jenny just suggested, which is a pretty good idea, it's not as though they're entirely out of pocket. It's going to facilitate more people coming to the town. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: But I just feel like it's, Putting in barriers. If you want to go to Handorf right now, you go up the freeway, you go down the main street, see if you can jag a park. If not, you find a park as close as you possibly can. If you have to go to a parking station just off the freeway, you've got to get on a shuttle. But I've got a

pram at the moment. That would just mean I don't go to Handorf. I go to a different spot for the day. You're just putting in unnecessary barriers. 00:41:34 Speaker 3: The only potential justifications I can see are, in the event that the parking facility, they see a scenario where paying for parking here means we can create an environment where more people will come to Handorf, okay? I could see the economic benefit to something like that. Or if there's some sort of local resident slash trader concern that is hyper-local and certainly is not coming through on the text line or the calls at the moment, but that doesn't appear to be something. Tell us if we're wrong, 8223 0000. Let's go to Mansfield Park. William, what do you make of this? 00:42:07 Speaker 7: Good morning, guys. 00:42:08 Speaker 19: So I deliver to each handoff every Wednesday. And, you know, just in a small truck, it's really difficult with the amount of cars and people and buses and other trucks that you've got to pass through on that to manoeuvre your way through there for delivery station will. So I feel I agree a little bit with what Jenny was saying, that they're just picking the ball down the street here, where, you know, handoff is going to be around, you know, for as long as Adelaide lives, I believe. So it's only going to grow in popularity. And, you know, I believe by, you know, them doing a short-term fix, it's going to end up costing, you know, us more money and more pain later on down the road. So, yeah, I like the idea of putting a, you know, a massive car park, you know, where the fruit and veg is, somewhere down there. 00:42:57 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:42:57 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:42:58 Speaker 19: You know, they've got stack loads of land there, you know, build a five, six story car park there. Um, and yeah, maybe have a shuttle bus to get to, get to the, to the main street. And then, you know, um, they can just maneuver their way around on foot. But yeah, even as it's just a truck, God, it's just, it's near impossible. And the amount of times that I've had a near miss with a bus, I'm just surprised that no one's been hurt on that street as yet. 00:43:24 Speaker 3: Well, it's obviously been a big conversation freight wise as well. Um, William, thank you. That's an important point to make in this conversation. Keep them coming in. 8223 0000. Quinton, our resident parking inspector, I think without a hint of self-interest, says, doesn't this create more jobs for parking inspectors? And he wonders whether this is about fighting unemployment in the hills. Thank you, Quinton. And Peter, on the proliferation of various days, I love this, Peter. I need to read this out. He says, if. 00:43:53 Speaker 3: World Marijuana Day on April 20th, it's National Robe Day on April 22nd, and National Bowling Day, August 14th, and National Go With The Flow Day on the 1st of May were all combined. You could have Big Lebowski Week. Peter, that needs to happen. That is brilliant. You've put in a lot of work. I'm here for it. The Australian Banking Association have put some work into a novel concept that would see the law changed to allow their members, which is 20 different banks across Australia, including the big four, to allow them to coordinate on joint infrastructure. These things would be known as banking hubs, where, as I imagine it, we'll ask Simon Birmingham, the CEO, in a moment, You could go into what would be a branch, except it wouldn't be a branch for a one bank, West Bank, ComBank, whoever else, NAB, ANZ. It would be one for all of them. 00:44:52 Speaker 9: Oh. 00:44:52 Speaker 3: A banking hub that would obviously exist in the regions. Now, this occurs in other countries, the UK and New Zealand. We have antitrust rules in Australia that prevent this from happening here, and the Banking Association are making the point, well, in an environment where the business model has changed and branches face closure, this would be a way of making face-to-face access be able to exist out in the regions into the future. Simon Birmingham, the CEO of the Banking Association, joins us. Simon, good morning. 00:45:24 Speaker 10: Good morning, Will. Stacey and listeners. 00:45:26 Speaker 3: I understand your argument, but this is why we have antitrust legislation, isn't it? Because this is a textbook case of cartel trading. You guys are all going to benefit And the customer loses out through lack of competition, do they not? Well, no, Will. 00:45:42 Speaker 10: It is why we are taking very careful steps. And yes, it starts with the fact that we have made an application to the ACCC to be able to have discussions to do certain things. And really, there are three things we're asking them to let banks do. One is to talk about the development of some commitments to regional Australia so that we can provide some degree of certainty that face-to-face banking services will remain available in regional Australia. You've got banks with different moratorium timelines in terms of branch closures that step out over the next few years. But we want to make sure that those commitments are clear. The second is we want to have discussions about trialling. In up to 10 locations, this banking hub model, we can come back to what that is in a sec. And the third is we want to be able to talk about, well, how do we actually fund that sort of shared infrastructure and have those discussions? The banking hub model is that we are talking about trialings very clearly for up to 10 locations that don't currently have a bank branch in those towns. So it won't replace any bank branch. It won't change the competition dynamics there. 00:46:57 Speaker 5: Well, not yet. 00:46:57 Speaker 10: And yes, it's why we're having to make sure that we are very clearly working within the boundaries of Australia's competition laws by trying to deal with a problem in the fact that interactions in regional bank branches are down some 63% over recent years. People just don't go in and use

them like they used to. That clearly undermines their viability, but we know that people still value knowing they can get face-to-face support for banking services at times. So how do we make sure the competition for what the bank product is? So this doesn't change what your account is, what the interest rates are, any of those sorts of things. All competition in terms of lending services, deposit services, all of that go your hardest. But can you actually just get face-to-face services to help you with your identity checks, with actually getting a problem solved? And so that's really what we're trying to focus on here. 00:48:01 Speaker 4: From what I can read, a lot of the services that would be available at these hubs, deposits, withdrawals, paying of bills, ID checks, a lot of that can be done at a post office at the moment. why is there a need for there to be another location instead of a post office? 00:48:19 Speaker 10: Some of it can, Stacey. We would hope this goes a little further than what current Bank at Post offering is. But we do see Bank at Post as being really important. In fact, the intention in terms of trialling up to 10 of these services is is that some of them would be a specific hub that essentially is like a bank branch, except it is coordinated in terms of having a shared employee who provides that face-to-face service. Some of them we want to trial will be using delivery partners, and we think Australia Post could well be one of those delivery partners. So how do we take the existing Bank at Post model that gives particularly cash access to additional sites around Australia for people who don't want to use an ATM and want to get their cash over the counter. How can we perhaps take that a little further in terms of the provision of extra support in terms of those face-to-face banking services? 00:49:18 Speaker 7: All right. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: It's an interesting concept. and we'll get our listeners' thoughts on it very shortly. 8223 0000. You can text us on 04808 1395. Simon Birmingham, the CEO of the Australian Banking Association, thank you for your time. We will check traffic in the meantime. David Koch is coming up on the other side of this break. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof designed, manufactured and installed locally by Louva. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 00:49:49 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:49:53 Speaker 3: 24 after 7. Good text from someone who didn't leave their name that says they're a local resident that says there should be an exemption if there is any introduction of paid parking on the main street in Harndor for residents. And I don't think anyone would argue with that. 00:50:06 Speaker 6: No. 00:50:06 Speaker 3: Would they? 00:50:07 Speaker 4: Well, we just need to nip down to the chemist. Why should we have to pay? 00:50:10 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I don't think anyone, surely not. 00:50:12 Speaker 4: Can I read out Mike's text? 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Do it. 00:50:15 Speaker 10: Yep. 00:50:15 Speaker 4: That's very funny, Mike. You gave us a giggle. Poor old Burmo. Imagine managing to find a job that's more disliked than being a politician. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: LAUGHTER I think he did a Burbo-esque job selling that as to the benefit of consumers a moment ago. 00:50:31 Speaker 4: Banking hubs, good for the people. 00:50:33 Speaker 8: And they could never tear us apart. David Koch on 5AA Breakfast. 00:50:45 Speaker 3: Port Adelaide Football Club chairman compared to market economic director David Koch joins us. Koch, good morning to you. 00:50:50 Speaker 7: Good morning, James. 00:50:51 Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time yesterday, Koshi, and spoke with the Shadow Home Affairs Minister about the Coalition's long-waited-for migration policy. And without getting into the numbers, it feels like the three parties have adopted three rather discreet positions on this. Labor seems to be of the view that fundamentally migration's working for us. One Nation thinks there are There are just actual issues with the concept of migration, and the Libs seem to be of a view that it needs to be tweaked to maximise the economic benefit to Australians. That's my shorthand way of avoiding just running through the numbers for the three positions. So the Libs position, I think, is a unique one for you to interrogate, because I'm intrigued about your interpretation of a more economically charged migration policy. That's how they're trying to sell it. Are you buying it? 00:51:40 Speaker 7: Not really. And look, migration is a key factor in our economy. Putting my tourism hat on, you talk to tourism operators, particularly in the regional areas of South Australia, and they are simply in despair about this race to the bottom in terms of arguments on migration, cutting migration, You know, migrants take our jobs, all that sort of stuff. You talk to tourism operators in regional areas and they say, migrants and backpackers and student visas all fill our jobs that we desperately need filled because no one else is here to fill them. And the ripple effect is going to be enormous. If you have an elderly parent in an aged care facility or a retirement village, who's going to look after them? At the moment, we're looking at a shortage of 80,000 nurses by 2035. Nearly 19,000 of those are in aged care. The aged care industry is going to be decimated for the first time. I'm just throwing these facts to give you the big picture out there. For the first time, the intergenerational report that came out a couple of weeks ago showed by 2060, more people will be dying in this country than either being born or coming here. Our population will recede. We're a country who's built a living standard on the back of migrants coming into this country and working hard. Now, I think we've got to be

selective with migration. I think they've got to be skilled migration. They've got to be people that, migrants that don't come in and are a drain on the welfare system. I completely agree with that. But this race to the bottom between all three parties and Labour and the coalition because they fear the power of One Nation is So they believe that they've got to match them on every policy or go one better is ridiculous in this particular instance. 00:54:07 Speaker 4: We feel obligated to ask you a question about Zach Butters. 00:54:11 Speaker 3: Can you make it happen, Koshi? 00:54:13 Speaker 4: I fear we might get a similar answer. 00:54:17 Speaker 7: You remind me of back in my old sunrise days where we'd go a sharp U-turn for one topic migration. 00:54:28 Speaker 3: Well, I guess one of your plays is emigrating to Victoria, I guess. 00:54:36 Speaker 5: Oh, no, oh, no. 00:54:39 Speaker 7: We've got to get it all in. 00:54:41 Speaker 4: Done that in a classier way. Sorry about that. 00:54:43 Speaker 7: Oh, no, no, that's all right. I expected you to say with migration, what a load of rot. 00:54:52 Speaker 3: I was framing something around per capita GDP, Kosh, and I thought football was more interesting to people. 00:54:56 Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, okay. 00:54:57 Speaker 7: All right, fair enough. Fair enough. I agree. 00:55:02 Speaker 4: Are we getting anything in return for Zach Butters? Are we going to get something good? 00:55:06 Speaker 20: Oh, yeah. 00:55:07 Speaker 7: We are going to get something. Of course we're going to get something in return for Zach Butters. But remember, it's also not a one-year play. It's a two-year play. and a two-draft play for us because we've got Louis Selipak and Zemi's pilot, father, son, and academy that are coming through next year, which we need draft points for in a draft that's got to be highly compromised by Tasmania, getting seven, eight key picks in the draft next year. So it's not about what can we get this year, it's about what we can get this year for next year as well. And we're not that injured. And Jason Cripps, our list manager, has been pretty clear about this. Not really interested in getting players. We need draft points if we're going to get these three guns coming through our system, which is Dougie, Louie and Zemi's. So that's the planning at the moment. And that's the big challenge for Jason. And he's He's a master at this. I have no idea about list management. It's a dark art of football for me, and that's why we got the wizard in Jason. 00:56:29 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Koshy. Good to chat. 00:56:30 Speaker 7: All right, guys. Thank you. 00:56:31 Speaker 3: Port Adelaide Football Club chairman and Compare the Market economic director, David Koshy, our guest. 00:56:39 Speaker 1: Knock down. Build two. With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. 00:56:45 Speaker 8: Metro Homes. 00:56:46 Speaker 4: They do it all for you. 00:56:47 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. This is Democracy Manifest. 00:57:03 Speaker 8: They're eating the dogs. I tell you what, any boss who sacks anyone for not turning up to die is a bum. 00:57:10 Speaker 9: Matt. 00:57:11 Speaker 2: Matt. 00:57:14 Speaker 3: Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof designed, manufactured and installed locally by Luva House. Good morning, Matt. Good Luva Day, as Stacey said earlier today. 00:57:23 Speaker 5: Beautiful Luva Day. 00:57:24 Speaker 3: Luvas are open. 00:57:27 Speaker 5: Would you have them closed? A bit of shade? 00:57:28 Speaker 7: Oh, okay. 00:57:29 Speaker 3: Maybe it's too hot. 00:57:30 Speaker 5: Could be getting a bit hot. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. Half and half. Let's something like that. 00:57:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, have them on the 45. Yeah. 00:57:37 Speaker 3: Just a little bit of a filtered light. 00:57:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:41 Speaker 5: Well, we have a, well, we've got a governor-elect. 00:57:45 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:57:47 Speaker 5: He's not elected, of course. Not yet. He's appointed. But Grant Stephens, police commissioner. Surely not a surprise to anyone, although the government left the approach to him quite late. Yeah, a month ago. 00:58:04 Speaker 4: 10th of September, around then. 00:58:07 Speaker 5: Maybe they just figured. He didn't have much else to do. He didn't have much else to do. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: Feels like the rumours spoke it into reality. 00:58:14 Speaker 12: Yeah. 00:58:15 Speaker 3: It was so expected, they thought, oh, well, we might. 00:58:18 Speaker 5: As well just do it. I mean, I would have thought he was just such an obvious choice, like when his name was being mentioned, a very obvious choice. And I think a very popular choice. I think it's a smart decision, a logical decision. I think he and his wife will fill the role beautifully. Quite interesting because our governors aren't always local or as well known as Grant Stephens. So Frances Adamson, who I think has been a good governor and grew up here in South Australia, was born in South Australia, but spent most of her life not in South Australia. I don't think when she was appointed by Stephen Marshall, anyone knew much about her at all. And, you know, she was a diplomat and a very accomplished one. in the federal bureaucracy. And so we've had to get to know her, if you know what I mean. And, you know, she equipped herself very well. Grant Stevens is a known quantity and, you know, on many levels as a family, the terrible death of their son. And So we got to know them, you know, the husband and wife, I suppose. And I think I equipped myself very well. But I do think, I have been thinking about what a great gig it is. And I did offer myself, obviously, but I've been knocked back. yet again. 00:59:39 Speaker 3: I can't imagine why the legislative arm of government would have concern about you having a carriage over there. 00:59:45 Speaker 5: I can just

imagine the seven grandkids let loose on the grounds of government house. 00:59:51 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:59:51 Speaker 5: The Abraham. 00:59:52 Speaker 3: Someone to push a fishing license in Greece and you dissolve the government. That'd be the problem. 00:59:57 Speaker 5: But anyway, anyway, I think should we modernize it? Because, um, does Grant Stevens need to live in government house? Um, We've got a precedent of this because Bob Carr in 1996, when he appointed the governor, and that was Gordon Samuels, who continued while governor as chairman of the Law Reform Commission, so he kept doing that, which is interesting. One of the conditions, I suppose, laid down by Bob Carr was that you don't live in government house in Sydney. So he lived at home. He continued to live at home and do all his governor's functions at home. And it continued like that until 2011. and I think Marie Bashir was the governor, and she was living at home but then moved back into the residence. And I thought, well, why couldn't you do that here? 01:00:53 Speaker 4: Would you really want to be hosting people at your own house? 01:00:55 Speaker 5: Well, you wouldn't. I mean, you wouldn't host them at your house. Where would you host them? You'd do most of your duties. You could have a dining room. Man, I don't know. 01:01:03 Speaker 3: LAUGHTER Don't mention the dining room. 01:01:08 Speaker 5: Sorry, we should say we're having an on-air discussion about dining rooms and whether they're seen as, you know, what? 01:01:16 Speaker 4: Does a dining room make you rich? 01:01:17 Speaker 5: Does a dining room make you rich? 01:01:18 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:01:19 Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. Most of them aren't used. They're full of brown furniture you can't sell. The good room. The good room, that's right, the good room. But I think you could do it. 01:01:30 Speaker 3: Seeing the price of petrol lately, it might be just cheaper to have them in the city so they can be ferried the short distance to the convention centre. 01:01:37 Speaker 5: I mean, have a look at Government House. There's a lot of land there that's wasted. 01:01:39 Speaker 3: Do you want to see another Walker Tower there? Okay, I see where you're going. 01:01:44 Speaker 10: Exactly. 01:01:45 Speaker 5: Peter Malinowskis. There's some trees that are chopped down there, some quite nice trees. Get rid of those. You could have yet another high-rise student tower there. 01:01:54 Speaker 15: Yep. 01:01:54 Speaker 5: Maybe you could use the official residence when AFL chiefs are here for the gather round so that they're treated with the respect they deserve. 01:02:01 Speaker 4: Driving, maybe putt-putt. We'll have the new golf course just up the hill. 01:02:06 Speaker 5: Could you run a circuit of the MotoGP, you know, motorbikes? It shouldn't be that hard around it. 01:02:12 Speaker 4: Dodge and car circuit. 01:02:13 Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of ways you could modernise the whole role of governor. I mean, look. I'll give you a precedent. Now, this wasn't a governor. This was Archbishop, the Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide, the very late and Christ-like Ligon Faulkner. And he, so the Catholic Archbishop at the time, when I was spin doctor for him, they had the official, they had the West Terrace Archbishop's House, which is a sort of big sort of pile on West Terrace. And then they had like a mansion at Medindic. Really, and it was called Ennis. The church found it very annoying because people going by with indelible markers would put a P in front of Ennis and then they'd have to paint over it. So that always– I'm serious. This was a problem. 01:03:09 Speaker 4: Anyway, so– I just love that we're giggling about that joke. 01:03:13 Speaker 5: Len Faulkner didn't live in either of those places. He lived in a cream brick house in the Western Suburbs. Um, his, his housekeeper, long-term housekeeper, she lived in the granny flat out the back. They're like an old married couple. They had a dining room, but a very small dining room. And he functioned very well there as Archbishop of Adelaide. And I thought it was quite a nice symbolic gesture. Maybe it was lost on a lot of people. 01:03:38 Speaker 3: So are you saying, in all seriousness, saying beyond the modernisation of the role and allowing them to live at home, you would actually repurpose the land that Government House sits on? 01:03:47 Speaker 4: Privatise Government House. 01:03:49 Speaker 5: You could do that, yes. 01:03:51 Speaker 3: I think you could do that. It is as good as any bit of real estate in Adelaide. 01:03:55 Speaker 5: Exactly. And, you know, this is a government that isn't terribly troubled by heritage and isn't terribly troubled by. 01:04:04 Speaker 3: This doesn't feel like a very Abraham position. 01:04:06 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:04:07 Speaker 10: Why? 01:04:08 Speaker 3: Because you like to. 01:04:09 Speaker 4: A bit of a traditionalist at times. 01:04:10 Speaker 5: I've actually thought about this for at least. 01:04:13 Speaker 3: I don't know, this new. 01:04:14 Speaker 5: At least a night. 01:04:15 Speaker 3: This new Yimby Matt Abraham. 01:04:19 Speaker 5: But, well, I. 01:04:21 Speaker 3: No, no, I... As a craven capitalist, I'm here for it. But it just doesn't feel like this is the kind of thing you're usually buying. 01:04:28 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking, should we rethink the role of governor? And does a governor need to live in a grand taxpayer-funded residence? And it is a grand residence. 01:04:38 Speaker 4: The salary's pretty big. Do you need the accommodation as well? 01:04:42 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:04:43 Speaker 4: It's about half a million dollars. 01:04:44 Speaker 3: Isn't it? 01:04:45 Speaker 4: I think I could be right. 01:04:46 Speaker 3: The sorts of people that are being offered the role of governor are well-established and older and have been successful. They probably have. pretty reasonable residences already. It's not as though they probably want to leave. It doesn't

sound like Grant Stevens is desperate to leave his house. 01:04:57 Speaker 4: By the way, with his dogs. $ 530, 000 is the salary for governor. 01:05:01 Speaker 8: It's good. 01:05:01 Speaker 4: Do they then need accommodation as well? 01:05:02 Speaker 3: Our listeners have seized upon an element of our conversation with him, Matt, yesterday where he opened the door, I think tongue-in-cheek, but they've taken it quite literally because the words on the transcript will be, he's not ruling out the possibility of post-Crow's Games barbecues being on the lawns of Government House. So we've got a text to that effect saying they're looking forward to the barbecues. Lynne says, no, no, the Governor needs to live in Government House for a number of reasons. Protocol needs to be preserved, says Lynne. 01:05:30 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, our largest, most powerful city, Sydney, seemed to manage quite well for well over a decade. without their governor living in their government house. 01:05:44 Speaker 3: It's kind of a lawless joint, Sydney, though, isn't it? 01:05:49 Speaker 4: It's not a problem I'd ever have, but I'm just thinking about if you were governor and having people over at your house and offering them a tea in the mismatched mugs and, you know, oh, hold on, let me get this one out of the dishwasher. I've run out of cups for your tea. I'll wash this one for you. It's not the same, is it? You want the fine china. You want to sit on the old couch. 01:06:09 Speaker 5: Well, look. I'm not saying you wouldn't have somewhere nice to take people. Well, but where? Well, we'd just go to a pub somewhere. I mean, look, well, I don't mean the front bar. 01:06:21 Speaker 3: Do you know, this is an exciting new. 01:06:24 Speaker 5: You go to Flaggy. It's very nice. 01:06:26 Speaker 3: It would be an exciting new development for the monarchy for when the Queen visits, say, you could take her to the Queen's head, for example. 01:06:36 Speaker 5: Take her to the pub. I've been to a royal banquet with the Queen. 01:06:40 Speaker 12: My wife and I. Yes. 01:06:41 Speaker 5: I've been to a royal banquet with the Queen. 01:06:44 Speaker 7: Where? 01:06:44 Speaker 5: She left her– well, it was in Adelaide somewhere. 01:06:47 Speaker 4: Government house? 01:06:48 Speaker 5: No, I don't think it was a government house. No, it wasn't. It was in some sort of busted-ass sort of place. But you needed binoculars to see the Queen. 01:06:56 Speaker 7: Yes. 01:06:57 Speaker 5: Well, I do. And, you know, I've been– I was at the disco that the Bannon government threw for then Prince Charles and Lady Di when they were newlyweds. And it was a disco in the grounds of Adelaide Uni. 01:07:14 Speaker 3: I think the government's missed a trick not appointing you as the governor. The idea that you would have rolled into government house on day one and called Toop and Toop is very exciting. 01:07:22 Speaker 4: I think. 01:07:23 Speaker 3: We're going to check traffic and come back with more from Matt Abraham, including determining the week's biggest louver in just a moment. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof, designed, manufactured and installed locally by Louvre. 01:07:35 Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 01:07:44 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:07:48 Speaker 3: Five minutes to eight. Matt Abraham in the 5AA Breakfast studio with us. We just had a call off air from the president of the One Nation Party, Carlos Carambo, who suggested maybe Government House, Matt, to your suggestion, could be used for as an Airbnb on the weekends. It would sort of be a revenue stream. 01:08:03 Speaker 5: You'd pack it out. You would. You'd pack it out. All those tradie utes. Imagine Gather Round. 01:08:08 Speaker 3: You could charge $ 500, 000 for the week probably. 01:08:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 01:08:11 Speaker 4: Imagine if it became a party house. You know those Airbnbs get notoriously known for being a party house. 01:08:17 Speaker 5: It can be a party house if you're the governor. 01:08:19 Speaker 3: Matt, you've upset a lot of the monarchists on the tech side. A lot of people feel this is an affront. 01:08:24 Speaker 4: To the– My favourite text so far is from Lynn in Brighton. Matt is talking a lot of rubbish. I love your views normally. This sounds a lot like an extreme lefty view. Have you gone woke? 01:08:37 Speaker 5: I'm woke, you're right. I have, actually. 01:08:40 Speaker 3: It's part of your crusade to tear down colonial institutions. 01:08:44 Speaker 4: Go woke or go broke. 01:08:47 Speaker 6: Oh, dear. 01:08:47 Speaker 3: All right. Should we rate some speed? 01:08:49 Speaker 5: I think it's time we did something. 01:08:51 Speaker 10: Matt. 01:08:51 Speaker 6: Spinning around. 01:08:55 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:08:55 Speaker 5: Now, my first contender for the biggest louver is former MLB Nick McBride, who sought to vary his bail conditions, which he obviously regards as onerous. He's facing fairly serious charges, which he is disputing and contesting of allegedly assaulting his estranged wife. But obviously it's incredibly onerous and he explains why in many ways jail's a lot better. 01:09:27 Speaker 20: In jail there's more exercise, there's more social activity, there's less responsibility and I can understand why people in my position can see that as an easier out than working through and navigating corrections and the rules that I'm currently being applied to myself. 01:09:43 Speaker 4: Wow. That sounds great. 01:09:45 Speaker 5: I didn't have any idea Jay was so good. 01:09:47 Speaker 4: If you like it so much, shall we send him back? 01:09:52 Speaker 3: Powerful advertisement for incarceration, isn't it? 01:09:56 Speaker 11: Did you see? 01:09:57 Speaker 5: Whatever happened to Rackham Packham and Stackham? He's having a great time. 01:10:01

Speaker 4: Did you see Sorry T? 01:10:02 Speaker 5: Hang on, two louvers. 01:10:03 Speaker 4: Oh, two. 01:10:04 Speaker 7: Cheers. 01:10:04 Speaker 5: On strict bail. 01:10:08 Speaker 4: Channel 7 posted their story about this last night on Facebook and said he was a 67-year-old. And Nick McBride reposted the post and he said, ouch, I'm only 57. I'm not 67 yet. And I thought, I'm not sure an incorrect reporting of your age is your biggest issue right now. I think there's other more pressing matters that should be requiring your attention. 01:10:29 Speaker 5: Now, my other contender for the biggest louver this week, is a One Nation commercial or advertisement that's been quite controversial because it uses AI, it's got people taking off suicide vests and it's part of the Victorian election campaign. The slogan is Take Victoria Back. I'll just play you the beginning of it. 01:10:49 Speaker 8: Nathan, what's wrong? 01:10:51 Speaker 12: You've barely touched your vegan mung beans. 01:10:55 Speaker 5: I can't do this anymore. 01:11:00 Speaker 3: Mum, Dad, I have something to tell you. 01:11:04 Speaker 5: I'm conservative. 01:11:08 Speaker 7: Nathan, me too. 01:11:11 Speaker 4: I always have been. I've loved her for 30 years. 01:11:17 Speaker 1: Oh, thank God. 01:11:19 Speaker 5: I voted no. Oh, so bad. And the house has got, you know, the vote green little cardboard poster on the front. Dad's wearing a. Vote yes, rainbow T-shirt. Mother's got red hair underneath her purple wig. But anyway. 01:11:40 Speaker 4: Is fake red hair any less work than fake purple hair? I don't know. 01:11:44 Speaker 3: Why do they AI it? 01:11:47 Speaker 5: Well, that bit they didn't– I don't know. I didn't know it was AI. I just thought they'd paid a lot of money for actors, but obviously they haven't. Look, it's tempting, but I am– for lots of reasons, awarding the biggest louver to Nick McBride. 01:12:08 Speaker 3: Well, Matt, you're going to walk out of the kitchen, not the kitchen, you're going to walk out of the studio. The governor has a butler, kitchen staff, and so forth. This is a theme that's coming through on the text line at the moment, and you've left behind in your wake a devastated group of Matt Abraham fans. You feel as though you have abandoned them this morning. 01:12:27 Speaker 5: Don't worry. I'll be back to normal programming. Normal programming will resume next week. 01:12:32 Speaker 3: Get on your back. 01:12:34 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 01:12:42 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:12:47 Speaker 3: Eight minutes after eight, what a beautiful day. 28 degrees, the expected top of the sun. High in the sky over a blue hills. I can't see a cloud, Stacey, unless you can see one from your vantage point. It looks like a spectacular October day today. Coming up this hour, Robert Sims, Greens MLC, is going to join us. I wonder if he's going to declare victory over the smart glasses because the Kmart ones, we keep saying Kmart, and you've correctly pointed out earlier in the program, there are other retailers too, but they're the biggest that they became associated with. have pulled them from shelves on the recommendation of the government who have said, we've made some inquiries about where the data goes and we haven't heard back anything satisfactory. It might be worth you looking after your customers and pulling it from shelves. So they have been. It's a different privacy issue than the one that we talked about with Robert Sims, but it is a privacy issue. We'll get his thoughts on that very shortly. Then after 8.30, character references are done in South Australian courts. The idea that someone can get a family member up or someone else to say, this person had a lapse in judgment but otherwise is a great guy or a great gal will not happen anymore. And the reason is some- I. 01:13:58 Speaker 4: Think that's after they've been convicted. 01:14:01 Speaker 3: During the pre-sentencing. 01:14:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:14:04 Speaker 3: That's where that process happens. Because some victims have said having to sit there in court with someone who's been found guilty of something and get to hear about why they're such a great person is an insult to victims. 01:14:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:14:16 Speaker 3: And the state government agrees. We're going to talk to Harrison James, who has been monumental in this decision with regard to his advocacy. We'll get into that after 8.30 today. 01:14:26 Speaker 7: Okay. 01:14:27 Speaker 3: I just want to read a text from Sharon that we got a little bit earlier. And Sharon, this is so spot on. Sharon says, I've been a listener since the mid-80s. I'm so sad to hear of the passing of Peter Godfrey, who was a host for nine years until February 2020 of the overnight talkback, Midnight to Dawn, as we always called it. Rest in peace, Peter, and thank you for your contribution to 5AA and community services in SA, working as a volunteer at Lifeline and as a funeral celebrant. You loved communicating with people online. In many different ways. Best wishes, Sharon. Sharon, a beautiful text and a beautiful recognition of a wonderful man in Peter Godfrey. And I think we tend to do this thing when someone dies and you hear other people talking about them that maybe on some subconscious level you adjust for the fact that when people die, we talk about their virtues and maybe there's a tendency to overstate things. Can I ask you just for a moment if that is something that exists in your subconscious to suspend that? Because when we say Peter Godfrey is one of the best human beings you could have ever met, that is not a statement that has been made over the top because of his passing. That is what everyone who'd met him would have said about him having known him in the moment. This is one of the most gentle, loveliest, kindest, most

patient human beings you could have ever met. He started working here. When I came back in about 2011-ish was when I returned. He'd taken over Midnight to Dawn. I left for a few years and came back and he was still here doing a wonderful job. That community, which I got to do for a couple of years, many, many years ago of Midnight to Dawn listeners is really special. He treated them as special. He treated them as a part of a community. it makes the most sense in the world to me that he was someone who worked on the other end of the phone for Lifeline. Because I actually can't think of another human being who in a low moment, you could have wanted to speak to more, who would have listened and had compassion and understanding. And as a funeral celebrant too, just these are the most logical things to make use of a talent that that man had for just being a lovely human being. And maybe that in and of itself is a human characteristic that in this cynical day and age, we don't mention the virtue of that much. This is a warm and lovely guy, and I'm very sad to hear of his passing. And Sharon, thank you for sending through that text and giving us an opportunity just to acknowledge the passing of a terrific colleague here at 5AA. 18 minutes past five. 01:16:59 Speaker 17: Let's head across the ditch. 01:17:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 01:17:01 Speaker 17: The water cooler, the smoko table, the back fence. The asset sales that you've spoken about before that the National-led government there in New Zealand is pursuing, John Key's had to backtrack on what. 01:17:11 Speaker 3: Was about to happen. Just a terrific guy, Peter Govery. Thank you. 01:17:15 Speaker 4: Beautiful words. 01:17:16 Speaker 3: Rick says Matt needs a fishing day. That's a nice way of putting it, Rick. 01:17:21 Speaker 4: I like the end of his text as well. Let's hope he finds his way back next week. I don't think we've got one supportive text on. 01:17:28 Speaker 3: Matt's spinning segment. My favourite type of commentator in the world are those that, Andrew Bolt does this from time to time. Matt Abraham certainly does it. They will occasionally broadcast or write something that runs against, they're not pandering to the crowd. 01:17:43 Speaker 5: No. 01:17:43 Speaker 3: They never pander. I love commentators who don't pander. 01:17:46 Speaker 2: No. 01:17:46 Speaker 3: Matt doesn't care that you don't like his opinion. That's why we love him. All right, let's go breaking it open. 01:17:55 Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to events, this is, I think, a bugbear for a lot of people that we never know how much the event costs, but we constantly get governments saying... well, it's contributed this much of an economic benefit to South Australia. Well, we don't really know what the cost benefit is, do we? Because we never get the cost aspect of it. 01:18:18 Speaker 4: Now, in this situation, though, the opposition has uncovered a document which, well, let's ask Ben Hood what it does. He's the shadow treasurer and he's the one who's found this document. Good morning to you, Ben Hood. 01:18:33 Speaker 16: Good morning, Stace, and good morning, Will. 01:18:34 Speaker 10: Good to be with you again. 01:18:35 Speaker 4: So this is a document regarding the MotoGP. What is it asking for? 01:18:41 Speaker 16: Well, it's really curious, to be honest, Stace. You know, the Premier announced or committed $ 96 million of borrowed money to build the MotoGP. track in the parklands. He told everyone it was going to return $ 200 million a year. Now, that was in September last year. And then only last month, the government now has put out a tender for a consultant to go and work out what the economic benefit actually is. There's 96 million and the 200 million number came first. It seems the homework is now coming second. And it seems the government hasn't put the cost and the benefits side by side before they signed. Now, any business, private enterprise, that would not do a business case or a cost-benefit analysis before committing a significant amount of funds probably wouldn't be in business for too much longer. And, you know, I need to make this point. We're not anti-events. The opposition isn't anti-MotoGP. We're anti-blank check. So South Australians can like the bikes, they can like MotoGP, but they still want to see the sums. And time and time again, we're seeing from this government and with all the commercial and confidence stuff that they do across advertising and everything else, it seems they want the sugar hit of the announcement. And now, five or six or seven months later, they're going to figure out if the economic benefit is actually there. 01:19:58 Speaker 3: Ben, is there a danger in a world where a state government puts out the tender and goes through the process of getting a private... cost-benefit analysis done on an event that you missed the window to actually try and bid for and get that event? 01:20:13 Speaker 16: Well, I guess you could make that argument, mate. But at the end of the day, we are talking about spending taxpayer dollars. And taxpayers have a right to know where it's going and what that return on investment is. It was only a couple of days ago we were talking about the advertising and what is the return on investment for South Australians in a huge amount of money spent on advertising. This is not an insignificant sum when you think about the issues we've got with our roads and our health system. And if the Premier's telling us that it's going to return $ 200 million, but then only last month, after they presented to my Budget and Finance Committee and I asked them, have you done the economic benefit? And they said no. Three or four days later, they've gone out to tender to ask the consultant to actually give us the economic benefit. It just seems like they're doing their homework a hell of a lot of time after they've taken that sugar hit of the announcements. 01:21:03 Speaker 4: Figure has to come from

somewhere, though, that there would be a $ 200 million benefit. They have to have done some work on it, right? 01:21:11 Speaker 16: Yeah, well, we asked that question in committee at the Motorsport Board, Stace, and they said, look, the Supercars does about $ 100 million, so they're assuming that the MotoGP is going to do about $ 100 million. Now, the Supercars has got previous event reports, so they can get a bit of an understanding of what that money is going to be bringing in. And they're just literally tacking on $ 100 million to the MotoGP, an event that hasn't been run. yes, that the trees have been cutting down and the track's got to be starting to build in December. I mean, this is a fait accompli. 01:21:40 Speaker 10: It's done. 01:21:41 Speaker 16: They can't rewind it now. But only now they're thinking, oh, actually, let's actually get some weight and some meat and some flesh around this number that we're telling everybody. And I don't know. I just think taxpayers would have to prick their ears up at that and go, That just doesn't seem right. If private enterprise wouldn't do that, the CEO would be out on their bum pretty quick. Yet the state government, because they're splashing other people's money around, seem to think it's an okay thing to do. 01:22:08 Speaker 3: I'll be fascinated if the private cost benefit analysis is a smaller number than $ 200 million, which when we start hearing. 01:22:14 Speaker 16: Mate, yeah, I'd be fascinated too. You know what they say about feasibility studies and other things. They tend to have a defined outcome before they go in. 01:22:24 Speaker 4: And will we ever... get to see it. Often those documents, if it's not in the benefit of the government, will become a cabinet document. It's gone to cabinet, so there's cabinet incompetence as well as commercial incompetence. 01:22:33 Speaker 8: So many incompetence documents everywhere. 01:22:35 Speaker 16: And don't they love that term, commercial incompetence? I'll tell you what, I bump up against it pretty much every day with this government. It's a frustration, but hey, again, taxpayers need to know it's their money. I think it's the right thing to do. 01:22:48 Speaker 4: Ben Hood, thanks for your time. 01:22:50 Speaker 7: Go on, you guys. 01:22:51 Speaker 14: Cheers. 01:22:55 Speaker 3: I often wonder about how commercial incompetence actually works. If we take it as read, we don't want New South Wales, for example, to know. 01:23:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand that argument. 01:23:08 Speaker 3: Except if New South Wales ring up the MotoGP and say we want the event, what will it cost? They're going to be told a number, aren't they? 01:23:17 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:23:18 Speaker 3: So I just wonder how that prevents. 01:23:23 Speaker 3: Competing entities from coming and trying to take these events in the event they want to. 01:23:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. Because they can find out anyway and bid overs. 01:23:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, now they might not be able to make the– they might not get the maximised return on investment because they can't just bid a million dollars more. But it's not as though their motorsport board says, well, we can't actually tell you how much to offer us. Can they? 01:23:49 Speaker 6: No. 01:23:51 Speaker 7: No. 01:23:52 Speaker 4: You wouldn't have thought. 01:23:53 Speaker 5: No. 01:23:54 Speaker 4: And I also– with the MotoGP, there is– no one has ever said any other state was bidding for this. Victoria didn't want it anymore. There has never been reported that another state wanted it. So who are we bidding against? 01:24:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:24:10 Speaker 4: Why couldn't there have been a bit of economic analysis done ahead of any bid? 01:24:14 Speaker 3: It would be– an interesting bit of analysis would be what is the– Is the vulnerability profile of major events trading in an environment where those sorts of commercial transactions are made entirely transparently? 01:24:29 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:24:29 Speaker 3: What is the risk? Has it ever been assessed? No, of course not. Of course not. Because it doesn't behoove anyone involved in the process for it to be. But I'd be fascinated to know. There's got to be other jurisdictions in the world that operate with greater transparency. 01:24:42 Speaker 4: There are families listening out there who are foregoing holidays, who are foregoing, you know, that camping trip this year, who might not come across the border to go to Gather Round or whatever it is. But because it's not personally paid for, because it's taxpayer money, we could spend it. 01:24:58 Speaker 3: It's interesting. All right, let's check traffic. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof, designed, manufactured and installed locally by Luva. 01:25:06 Speaker 1: Knock down bill two with metro homes sell one and move on keep the other as an investment metro homes they do it all for you will. 01:25:14 Speaker 2: Goodings with stacy lee this is five double a. 01:25:18 Speaker 3: Breakfast 24 after eight the federal office of the australian information commissioner wrote to a company called um uh haitian haitian i think is how you pronounce it they're a um a They run the smart glass brand, Hacien, based in Shenzhen in China, and the Office of the Information Commissioner wrote to them asking them these questions. Clarification on how the smart glasses work and how they record information, who has access to the recorded information, and where the recorded information is stored. So they're wondering about Australians' privacy and the use of smart glasses. Not in the way that we were imagining where... strange people can suddenly covertly film people. But more than that, where does that data, where do those images actually end up? They got no response. And so the office recommended that these particular products be taken from shelves. Kmart, Amazon and Big W have all stocked them and now they

are taking them from shelves. It's a win of a sort in this concern we have about smart glasses. But again, not from the perspective of which we were talking about. Robert Simms moved the motion in state parliament to try and get these kind of privacy concerns into the mainstream. Robert Sims, good morning to you. Do you take it as a victory of a sort? 01:26:42 Speaker 21: Good morning, Will and Stacey. Oh, look, I absolutely welcome the fact that these glasses are being pulled from shelves. I mean, it's pretty insane that you could get these glasses from Kmart for, I think it was 89 bucks without there being any controls in place. I still think, though, there's a need for legislative reform in this area because, of course, people are still going to be able to purchase them potentially online. What my bill would do is impose a $ 10, 000 fine on people who wear these glasses in certain places, so swimming pools, childcare centres, gyms, playgrounds, schools. I think that's pretty reasonable to expect that there should be some safeguards around how this technology is used. 01:27:27 Speaker 4: Have you heard from either of the major parties about whether they'll support your bill? 01:27:32 Speaker 21: So I wrote to the government, also the opposition, and I wrote to One Nation, really offering an invitation to all political parties for us to work together on this. I have heard back from the government and the Attorney General's office are looking at it and I'm keen to collaborate with them on this and see if we can get some legislation through My desire would be to try and do this by the end of the year. But, of course, there's a few things. 01:27:57 Speaker 10: To work through. 01:27:58 Speaker 3: Do we have a broader problem when it comes to surveillance, both be it, as in this case, where we've got concerns about a foreign entity surveilling, but also just the bill that you've spoken about with individuals and this sort of recording technology? Do we need some sort of catch-all surveillance law that might cover this? 01:28:19 Speaker 21: Yeah, I think that probably best comes at a federal level. And I know my colleagues in Canberra are advocating for that. And indeed, they've actually been pushing for a moratorium on the sale of all of these glasses and the importation of them into Australia until we can work through all of those issues. I think there's a need for all of our laws in this space. I mean, we're talking about smart glasses, but consider drones. for instance. It's quite possible now for people to get technology to actually fly into someone's back garden or outside people's windows and stuff like that. And it's very difficult because we don't have laws that really reflect this technology. When they were developed, I don't think anyone would have contemplated... the kind of technology that we have that's so readily available today. So there does need to be a huge overhaul. And I think we've got to recognise as legislators, we've got a responsibility to move really, really quickly and put some guardrails around this because look at what's happened with, say, social media and all of the challenges we've had in trying to regulate that area once the genie's out of the bottle. 01:29:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm surprised that we haven't really heard anything from the government on this one about whether or not they're introducing their own bill or, as Robert Sims said, if they're supporting his bill or not. I mean, local councils are considering legislation regarding this. 01:29:36 Speaker 3: Legislation moves at a glacial pace when it comes to having to deal with new technology. 01:29:39 Speaker 4: But these glasses are creepy. We all know that. And, yes, there should be carve-outs for people who need them, who are visually impaired. We've spoken about that. But it doesn't seem like it's that hard. How is it that hard? 01:29:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it shouldn't be. Well, it wasn't for Robert Sims and the Grahams who came up for this. Thanks for your time. Robert Sims. Someone yesterday sent me a message saying, oh, I don't want to send this message over Messenger. And I thought, okay, well, that's fair enough. You don't want Mark Zuckerberg knowing what you're going to send me. And then I thought, they said, I'll call you. And I thought, that's interesting because then Apple might know what we're saying. And then I thought we could have it in person, but then do I want the Japanese TV makers to know what we're saying? There's nowhere safe. That's what suddenly struck me. Everything's listening. You've just got to pick which foreign entity you have. Do we go with an ally? Yeah. Can I have this conversation without consulting the ANZUS Treaty? 5AA News, Don. 01:30:33 Speaker 8: Knockdown. 01:30:34 Speaker 1: Bill 2. With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. 01:30:40 Speaker 4: They do it all for you. 01:30:41 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:30:45 Speaker 3: 20 minutes to nine. James texted in on 0 to 4808 1395, said there was a segment on Sunrise this morning, furthered our conversation with Robert Sims a moment ago, where they interviewed someone who hacked into a smart, a pair of smart glasses, I think James is saying, within 24 hours. No password, no two-factor authentication. The data stored from the glasses is not secure, which goes to the concern that's been raised by the Australian Information Commissioner, hence why they're no longer on our shelves. Thank you for that, James. And a few people with some Moto GP thoughts as well. Andrew's defending the state, saying, I'm not concerned about how Mali is cutting deals with the order, as revealed in Breaking at Eight, was a sort of rough estimate of what the economic benefit of the Moto GP would be. And now we're learning that subsequent to that announcement, there has been a tender put out for a private entity to work out exactly what the cost benefit will

be. Andrew says, you can't secure deals if you slow to the table due to red tape, even as a politician. I trust him. And Claude's a bit sceptical of the libs with regard to them saying they're anti-events. He says they use the same logic to get rid of the Adelaide 500. And wasn't that a smart move? They oppose everything. The saying is you need to spend money to make money. Others are sort of of the view that maybe these sorts of things need a little bit more oversight as we spend a lot of taxpayers' money on them. This is a move that the state government have made that I suspect anyone who's been through the court process will be supportive of. Because after years of campaigning by our next guest, Harrison James and Jared Grice, sex abuse survivors, criminals will no longer be able to use character references once they hit the sentencing part of a trial. 01:32:32 Speaker 4: So this is after they've been convicted? 01:32:34 Speaker 3: They've been found guilty. 01:32:35 Speaker 15: Yep. 01:32:36 Speaker 3: And they sit down, the judge starts to work out, well, what's the sentence going to be? And historically, as part of that process, people get up, and you've heard this in the coverage of courts, and say, this was a wonderful person. They've contributed a lot to society, so on and so forth. Well, Harrison James and Jared Grice made the point that sitting through that as a victim, someone who's been proven as a victim, is frankly beyond an insult. So now, the way this will work is that these character references, for any offence, will no longer exist. Harrison James joins us now. Harrison, good morning. 01:33:12 Speaker 11: Good morning. Thank you for having me on the show. I appreciate it. 01:33:15 Speaker 4: Big win for you yesterday when the South Australian government announced that they were getting rid of the references. 01:33:23 Speaker 11: Yes, it was indeed. And, look, after four years of campaigning, you know, I was the victim survivor of child sexual abuse who came forward with my story. and spoke about one of the most painful experiences of my life. And I asked governments to change something that I believed was wrong. And, you know, I was able to sit down with Kai Amara a few years ago here in South Australia and talk him through this reform, and he took it seriously. And the proposal went on to be discussed by attorneys general around the country. And, you know, yesterday we saw the announcement that South Australia will become the next jurisdiction where our campaign has successfully driven action on this reform. 01:34:03 Speaker 4: What other states have already moved? Are you making your way around the country? 01:34:08 Speaker 11: Yeah, so South Australia is actually the sixth jurisdiction. So we've achieved legislative success in New South Wales, the ACT, Tasmania, Victoria, WA, and then yesterday, South Australia. So only the NT and Queensland are the two to go. We've also made progress in New Zealand, which is quite phenomenal. 01:34:29 Speaker 3: You described as one of your hardest times. things to get through Harrison so I'm reticent to take you back there but so you're a victim of child sex abuse and you had to sit there in court and hear about how good a bloke this person was. 01:34:40 Speaker 11: Yeah so I was actually sexually abused by my stepmother but the inspiration of the campaign came from my father who perpetrated incredibly severe domestic violence against my mother and I remember her going through the court process and hearing the good character references and you know reference by reference I just saw the hope drain from her face as she saw a system and a perpetrator that was completely stacked against her. And, you know, it's incredibly dehumanizing. I mean, imagine surviving the worst thing somebody has ever done to you, finding the courage to go through that justice system, and then sitting in the courtroom right at the tail end of the process, hearing about all the wonderful things that that person has done for everybody else. And, you know, you hear that they're a great friend and a respected colleague and a wonderful member of the community. And as a survivor of whatever crime type, really, you know, you're sitting there thinking, but what about what they did to me? You know, a survivor should never have to compete with the offender's reputation in a courtroom. And that also, you know, that's why yesterday's announcement is so important. 01:35:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:35:52 Speaker 4: Well, good on you for your advocacy. And, you know, it doesn't sound easy. We can tell it's not easy for you to talk about it. And and keep reliving it, but it seems like the hard work over so many years is paying off. 01:36:04 Speaker 11: Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, it's a real privilege to see this. And I think, I just want to note, because I think it's really important to say that this campaign, you know, it is changing legislation. It's also changing culture by asking us why, when we're confronted with horrific violence, why do we still reach for language that softens it? You know, but he was a good bloke. He was a good father. This was out of character. But ultimately, you know, for me, this isn't about headlines or politicians. It's not even about campaigns like mine, right? It's about the person who has been left carrying the consequences of that abuse for the rest of their life, sitting in that courtroom, and whether we can make their experience of justice a little less painful than it was for the survivors who came before them. That ultimately is what this is about and why this is so important. 01:36:54 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:36:55 Speaker 3: Well, Harrison, thank you. We appreciate getting to speak to you as one of the people who led the advocacy on this front and has affected this change. Harrison James fighting against these sorts of character references and the indignity of having to sit there in court and hear about it, especially– and it does

run counter to, I imagine, sort of on an entirely intellectual level about how people understand the court process where– The incident is assessed on its merit, the intent, the evidence that's based, how that is a contravention of law. And there's this quite little bit at the end that happens. Oh, yeah, we've found all that. You've done all that wrong. But now we're going to hear about all the good stuff. 01:37:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll hear from a bunch of people in your life who think you're a great person. Yeah. Yeah, this text from Bell. Four years to get the character reference defence abolished for criminal charges. My blood pressure is rising. This gentleman needs applauding. 01:37:48 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Scott Modbury makes a great point. If you're Hitler or Mother Teresa and you kill 7 million people, why do we care? You did this horrible thing and that's what's being assessed here. Thank you for that, Scott. And thank you for your texts. And I can tell Harrison... There's a lot of support coming through on the text line for him and indeed this initiative as well. All right, let's check traffic and we'll come back with more in a moment. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof, designed, manufactured and installed locally by Louvau. 01:38:16 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 01:38:24 Speaker 2: We're Goodies with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:38:30 Speaker 8: Two to nine. 01:38:31 Speaker 3: Did we get much support? I'm just trying to think if we got any support for the prospect of paid parking on the main street of Harndorf. It's something that the Mount Parker Council has an intent to investigate. We got some people that... had a view that maybe if it created more opportunities for off-street parking, that there might be some merit. But broadly speaking, I think people were opposed to it. And the locals, which was most interesting to me, seemed to have issues with it. 01:38:55 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:38:55 Speaker 3: Certainly if it existed in an environment where there was no exemption, as you said, going to the chemist or going to get your groceries or whatnot. Shirley Howe is the chairperson of the Harndorf Community Association and joins us now. Shirley, good morning to you. 01:39:08 Speaker 19: Good morning. 01:39:10 Speaker 3: What do you make of this proposal, Shirley? 01:39:13 Speaker 22: Just to clarify first, though, they are saying that the paid parking on the main street is something that they may consider moving forward. And their current plan that's going before council next week does state that. So there isn't any immediate plan. 01:39:30 Speaker 3: For paid parking. 01:39:30 Speaker 14: No, intent. 01:39:31 Speaker 9: They have an intent. 01:39:31 Speaker 3: It is an intent. Well, let's talk about it then in that sort of hypothetical context then. Is it something that you would

see merit in or you've got concerns about? 01:39:41 Speaker 22: Well, look, we've got concerns about it as a community. There's two thoughts on it. So the first one is, yes, it's a great idea because it will encourage people to park in car parks. However, the car parks at the moment are paid parking apart from one car park or two. So there is a lot of people in the town that are negative about it. There's also a lot of people in the town that are positive about it. providing the council provides some kind of pass or sticker for residents because the residents don't want to have to pay for parking if they're just going to the post office or they're just going to the medical centre or they're just going to the dentist. It's important that the community doesn't have to pay for parking in the town at all. Now, if there were to be paid parking on the main street, of course, that leaves a lot of people in a position where they then have to try to find parking. You know, there's going to be more parking on the residential streets because a lot of people don't want to pay for parking when they come to Harndorf. 01:40:56 Speaker 4: There was a suggestion from one of our listeners earlier that's got pretty decent support on the text line so far, Shirley, about maybe paid parking on the street. and a parking station further down where there's a shuttle bus that comes every few minutes or so to take people up to the main street. 01:41:15 Speaker 22: Yeah, and that is something that's been discussed. The unfortunate part about Harndorf is there's not a lot of land that supports large car parks, and there would need to be a fairly large car park for that to have any kind of effect. But the council have got a block of land that they've purchased at $ 108, 000, Mount Barker Road, that they're intending to construct a car park that at this stage will have potentially free parking, but it is only 40 parking spaces, which will take a little bit of pressure off the main street, but it's certainly not enough to have any real effect. There is already some paid car parks off the main street that don't really get overused. A lot of people that come to Handorf are still parking on the main street. They're still trolling, so they're going very slowly up and down the main street, causing traffic congestion, looking for free car parks. 01:42:17 Speaker 3: So, Shirley, when you guys in the community are knocking around in, you know, Cafe 1839 or something up there, is there a sort of consensus view on how you guys would like the parking situation to be handled in the future? Because I know Even beyond the main street, it ends up in front of their homes and down the side streets and so forth. So is there sort of a local view of how you guys would handle it if you're in charge? 01:42:42 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, there is. 01:42:43 Speaker 22: So the local view is more free parking off the main street, so more free parking in car parks off the main street. So definitely construction of car parks at both ends of the main street. There is land at the southern end that could be converted into car parking spaces. A lot of people in the town do think that paid parking on the main street is inevitable. And like I said earlier, as long as the residents don't have to pay for that when they're going to the post office or the local services, then they would be in support of it if there is some kind of pass for residents. The issue with putting the paid parking on the main street is at the moment there isn't any real option for people to park for free in the town if they do do that because there just isn't the infrastructure. There isn't the car parks. Businesses do have a lot of space behind them. Not all of them, but there's quite a few that do have private parking behind them for their own workers. But they're really underutilised. There's certainly a lot of options for more off-street parking behind a lot of the businesses. But that is a decision that... that needs to be made with council and landlords, not so much the business owners because the business owners tend to lease a building from a landlord and those properties belong to a landlord. Some of them have already opened up areas behind their businesses for paid parking, but there's really not a lot of free parking apart from the hotels. 01:44:25 Speaker 3: We appreciate your insights. It's good to get the local view, Shirley. Shirley Howe from the Handorf Community Association. We've got plenty of local texts as well. 01:44:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do. 01:44:33 Speaker 3: To be fair. But it's a byproduct of living in a really pretty place that a lot of people want to come and visit. 01:44:39 Speaker 4: People want to go to Handorf. 01:44:40 Speaker 3: People really want to go to Handorf. 01:44:41 Speaker 4: It's a good problem to have. 01:44:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It is, but it does need attention. Thank you for that, Shirley. We appreciate it. Let's round things out this morning with Fuel Watch. Don't get stuck on the side of the road. Get RAA road service. The cheapest places you're going to get petrol, the Liberty Clarence Gardens on South Road looks like the best. That's $ 2. 21. 9. Yeah. The Mobile Blair Athol Prospect Road, $ 2. 25. 5. And the cheapest diesel is, again, on Henley Beach Road at the United Henley Beach, $ 2. 78. 5. Enjoy the sun today, folks. It is going to be a cracking day. And after this... The rain returns. So make the most of it. We'll catch you tomorrow morning from six. 01:45:28 Speaker 8: Mum, Dad, I. 01:45:31 Speaker 7: Have something to tell you. 01:45:33 Speaker 5: I'm conservative. 01:45:34 Speaker 7: Is there anybody I love?