Full Transcript for Episode 129: Spider-Man Brand New Day AND We Got Engaged at the Zoo!

--> 02:44.473 [SPEAKER_02]: She gave us a little bit of homework. 02:44.493 --> 02:46.735 [SPEAKER_02]: She was like, okay, go finish this up on your own. 02:46.795 --> 02:48.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Come in with it done tomorrow. 02:49.117 --> 02:50.378 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, so a second. 02:50.598 --> 02:53.501 [SPEAKER_03]: So what's the second dimensional floor plan? 02:54.221 --> 02:56.143 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm sorry, dude, my architecture. 02:56.423 --> 03:02.989 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're back on the zero shapes and boxes and like a two dimensional picture. 03:03.009 --> 03:09.075 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no there's no depth to it, but it's at least like a like a complete image. 03:10.147 --> 03:17.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so she gave us the homework and was like, you know, have two of these done tomorrow when you guys come in and I was like, no problem. 03:18.034 --> 03:19.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Turns out there was many problems. 03:22.117 --> 03:24.419 [SPEAKER_02]: I got one done badly. 03:25.061 --> 03:26.741 [SPEAKER_02]: and the other one I could do at all. 03:27.362 --> 03:32.963 [SPEAKER_02]: And I came in and the one that I did badly that I was, it still took like two hours to do. 03:33.823 --> 03:36.484 [SPEAKER_02]: She was like, oh, you did this wrong. 03:37.124 --> 03:43.586 [SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to copy the JPEG, not the, not the PDF file. 03:43.766 --> 03:46.646 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, how the hell was I supposed to know that? 03:47.066 --> 03:53.048 [SPEAKER_02]: So I had to spend the first hour of class today doing my homework from yesterday. 03:54.048 --> 04:00.350 [SPEAKER_02]: from a JPEG, not a PDF file, even though they're the ones that uploaded the PDF file into our folder. 04:01.511 --> 04:05.492 [SPEAKER_02]: And then today, can you guess what dimension we were working with? 04:06.292 --> 04:07.412 [SPEAKER_03]: The third dimension. 04:08.333 --> 04:17.236 [SPEAKER_02]: They're doing 3D renders of these houses, and if I was drowning yesterday, today, 04:19.891 --> 04:21.712 [SPEAKER_02]: It was something even worse. 04:21.772 --> 04:24.972 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like the ocean gate people in the submarine. 04:25.052 --> 04:26.233 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just fully cooked. 04:27.273 --> 04:32.394 [SPEAKER_02]: And the TA ended up doing like half of the project for me. 04:33.075 --> 04:42.197 [SPEAKER_02]: And when we hop off now, I'm going to have to do the other half of it myself, which I don't, I still don't understand, dude. 04:42.917 --> 04:43.537 [SPEAKER_02]: It is rough. 04:43.797 --> 04:46.278 [SPEAKER_02]: So at this rate, so next time we talk about 04:47.729 --> 04:50.210 [SPEAKER_03]: What type of like teaching is going on? 04:51.191 --> 04:55.312 [SPEAKER_02]: This is even like a course that we get credit for. 04:55.433 --> 05:02.596 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the summer seminar for people who didn't get a bachelor's in architecture. 05:02.636 --> 05:04.296 [SPEAKER_02]: So they've never worked with the programs.

05:04.677 --> 05:07.238 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is supposed to be catching us up to speed. 05:07.878 --> 05:08.818 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like boot camp. 05:09.479 --> 05:11.340 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like we're going to in two weeks. 05:11.360 --> 05:16.542 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to give you all the knowledge that your peers got in five years of studying this shit. 05:17.151 --> 05:32.834 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, then at least based on that I think you can cut yourself a ton of slack on like not knowing things because you just set it yourself right you're you're covering what other people. 05:33.735 --> 05:37.998 [SPEAKER_03]: it took five years to cover and now you're going to try to do it in two weeks. 05:38.059 --> 05:43.463 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's not realistic that you are going to become an expert at this. 05:44.003 --> 05:48.727 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean sort of it's it's really getting us used to the software so that they were using. 05:48.807 --> 05:54.832 [SPEAKER_02]: So like we haven't been learning anything theoretical about architecture at all or just learning like these 05:55.712 --> 05:58.173 [SPEAKER_02]: crazy advanced like rendering programs. 05:58.674 --> 05:59.194 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 06:00.054 --> 06:20.725 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's just another comment that I'm going to make our first three days back to school are like just the teacher days, and I Talk to the new teachers and I'm sure it's not to the degree that you are saying, but they're always like, oh my gosh, it's so much information and I just feel like you know, they're just they just get like stressed out listening to the meetings 06:21.705 --> 06:40.895 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, Dennis, school's going to start tomorrow and they're going to be fine because it's just, you know, once you get a teacher and they start teaching you and you're actually just like covering, I don't know, I think, I think you'll you'll pick it up. 06:41.908 --> 06:42.468 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope so. 06:43.029 --> 07:05.020 [SPEAKER_02]: I think at this rate one of two things is going to happen either by the next time we pod I will no longer be in architecture student or I will be like using photon beams to design theoretical bio domes that are universal across dimensions like there's no middle ground at all. 07:07.681 --> 07:13.425 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought there would at least be like a syllabus week or like hey guys, say a fun fact about yourself. 07:13.685 --> 07:14.586 [SPEAKER_02]: What's this building? 07:14.866 --> 07:16.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's the awful tower. 07:16.367 --> 07:16.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Good job. 07:17.228 --> 07:18.089 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone gets candy. 07:19.870 --> 07:20.670 [SPEAKER_02]: Then none of that. 07:20.690 --> 07:25.194 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, it'll start clicking. 07:26.494 --> 07:27.175 [SPEAKER_03]: I have faith. 07:28.116 --> 07:28.616 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope so. 07:29.096 --> 07:31.638 [SPEAKER_03]: I have faith because I've trained you in things before. 07:33.179 -->

07:34.960 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was so successful in that. 07:37.963 --> 07:38.863 [SPEAKER_02]: That's funny stuff. 07:39.624 --> 07:40.745 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean with John? 07:41.205 --> 07:47.690 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, just to be clear, I'm pretty sure quitting that job is actually big successful in the long run. 07:47.770 --> 07:49.071 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know. 07:49.151 --> 07:52.714 [SPEAKER_02]: If I had stayed with it right now, I have no doubt in my mind. 07:54.015 --> 07:59.079 [SPEAKER_02]: Either I would have gone out of business during COVID or I would be running my own branch somewhere. 07:59.339 --> 08:02.782 [SPEAKER_02]: And as we were told that apparently that's the American dream. 08:04.703 --> 08:05.084 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 08:05.144 --> 08:16.661 [SPEAKER_03]: You want to be interviewing 18 to 23 year olds 15 a day and lying to them about what job they're doing and how much it's going to pay. 08:16.681 --> 08:18.423 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the American dream. 08:19.785 --> 08:20.625 [SPEAKER_03]: are we talking about? 08:21.566 --> 08:22.046 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 08:23.026 --> 08:23.967 [SPEAKER_03]: It was your turn to talk. 08:24.067 --> 08:25.027 [SPEAKER_03]: What are you coming in with? 08:25.507 --> 08:31.490 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, since we've talked, I'm sure something has happened or changed for you. 08:32.450 --> 08:35.892 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it can't all just be sampled, sampled. 08:35.912 --> 08:36.932 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you coming in with? 08:37.192 --> 08:37.452 [SPEAKER_03]: Nope. 08:37.812 --> 08:39.953 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm coming in with something big, Zach. 08:40.294 --> 08:43.275 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got big news and you were a part of it. 08:44.055 --> 08:59.685 [SPEAKER_03]: Because a couple of about 10 days ago Zach and I, along with Shaila and Mandy, we went to the zoo and he was nice enough to film a great proposal video of Mandy and me getting proposed. 09:00.725 --> 09:08.210 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was very exciting and we're both extremely happy and Zach thanks for you and Shaila for tagging along with us for that. 09:08.850 --> 09:09.211 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude. 09:10.151 --> 09:16.955 [SPEAKER_02]: As we said a million times, it was our pleasure, just to clarify, you did the proposing. 09:16.995 --> 09:21.158 [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't both of you getting proposed to, I think, or third person. 09:21.618 --> 09:29.083 [SPEAKER_03]: I did the proposing in front of the elephants at the zoo because of that one song five years time. 09:29.103 --> 09:30.283 [SPEAKER_03]: You know that one? 09:30.303 --> 09:31.884 [SPEAKER_03]: It was in Superman. 09:32.785 --> 09:35.907 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the one that goes fun, fun, fun. 09:36.382 --> 09:38.383 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and man, he made a very cute video. 09:38.463 --> 09:48.125 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've seen it on her Instagram, but oh, yeah, she had that done fast or the next day, so I know We need to get her to edit our episodes. 09:48.805 --> 09:56.387 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what she might she will probably come come over here while we're while we're filming so she can pop on and say hi 09:57.342 --> 10:00.366 [SPEAKER_02]: cool beans. 10:00.446 --> 10:05.031 [SPEAKER_03]: So let's see, we got we got proposed to Zach. 10:05.051 --> 10:06.373 [SPEAKER_03]: We proposed that the zoo. 10:06.793 --> 10:16.064 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like you to I'd like you to edit a movie poster for we bought a zoo just like you just like you did when we bought a podcast. 10:16.945 --> 10:21.468 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'd like it to say, we got engaged at the zoo or something of that sort. 10:21.588 --> 10:26.811 [SPEAKER_03]: So as soon as you finish all your architecture over, it sounds like there's not that much. 10:26.831 --> 10:27.992 [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you hop on that? 10:28.752 --> 10:34.256 [SPEAKER_02]: Did I make a, we bought a zoo name at some point when we did a podcast? 10:35.016 --> 10:37.658 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you sent it, you sent it to me in a text. 10:38.378 --> 10:43.781 [SPEAKER_03]: You were like, we, we sponsored a, or we sponsored a music festival. 10:43.821 --> 10:44.562 [SPEAKER_03]: Music festival. 10:44.602 --> 10:45.302 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it was. 10:46.792 --> 10:48.814 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I make so many banger me. 10:48.874 --> 10:50.355 [SPEAKER_03]: You're good about that. 10:51.056 --> 10:54.599 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I think John, this is why I love you. 10:55.180 --> 10:56.982 [SPEAKER_02]: No one appreciates my memes. 10:57.722 --> 11:02.627 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, in my main group chat, they either get ignored or booed. 11:03.107 --> 11:05.408 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, I appreciate the beams. 11:06.068 --> 11:08.609 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, Mandy just pulled in the driveway. 11:08.669 --> 11:09.910 [SPEAKER_03]: I can see it on the camera. 11:10.230 --> 11:18.873 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she'll come in here in a second and then we'll get started after a quick hello from the bride to be. 11:19.353 --> 11:19.853 [SPEAKER_03]: Hell yeah. 11:20.214 --> 11:23.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Before that happens, I got to get this out of the way. 11:23.855 --> 11:26.576 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to plug the annual fantasy league. 11:27.447 --> 11:28.808 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I gotta sign up for this. 11:29.288 --> 11:31.649 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh wait, you mean the web had fantasy league? 11:32.169 --> 11:33.089 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I know. 11:33.109 --> 11:36.511 [SPEAKER_03]: You or me have both one, both years, right? 11:37.551 --> 11:38.051 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so. 11:38.271 --> 11:40.032 [SPEAKER_03]: Did I win your one and you won your two? 11:41.072 --> 11:43.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Have we done it two years or do we just do it one? 11:44.134 --> 11:44.974 [SPEAKER_03]: No, we did it two. 11:46.895 --> 11:47.415 [SPEAKER_03]: I think. 11:48.807 --> 11:51.568 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say that's how it played out because we're the main characters. 11:53.568 --> 11:55.049 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm pretty

confident we won. 11:55.069 --> 11:55.909 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:56.409 --> 12:12.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyways, if you want to be part of the league this year, message us on Instagram or send us an email, even if you were in it last year, because none of you fuckers are responding in this sleeper app, put something in the chat, 12:20.723 --> 12:24.545 [SPEAKER_03]: If the app was better, switch it to ESPN's app. 12:24.565 --> 12:25.506 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the best app. 12:25.666 --> 12:27.627 [SPEAKER_02]: I will never go back to ESPN. 12:27.927 --> 12:34.811 [SPEAKER_03]: If I knew that I had gotten something on it, I might have answered it, but I didn't know. 12:35.231 --> 12:35.772 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm in. 12:36.692 --> 12:38.874 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in and all you suckers are going down. 12:40.014 --> 12:40.354 [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome. 12:41.155 --> 12:42.276 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what else we got? 12:43.165 --> 12:43.986 [SPEAKER_03]: What else do we have? 12:44.046 --> 12:45.386 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's what else we have. 12:45.807 --> 12:54.112 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I really am highly considering getting tickets for riot fest because I want to see Foxy Shazam there. 12:54.332 --> 13:04.198 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you decide that that's something that you want to do, I am like just a chink for a recent supposed trigger on that. 13:04.978 --> 13:16.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck man, that's like the most dangerous sentence anyone could say to me because every year even if I don't plan on going to riot fast I usually end up there at least for a day. 13:17.463 --> 13:28.347 [SPEAKER_02]: I used to go all three days every year and now it's like It's so easy to get the free tickets from them that the last three years I have it either. 13:28.367 --> 13:29.608 [SPEAKER_02]: You can be afraid of tickets. 13:30.408 --> 13:31.649 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, they give them out all the time 13:32.469 --> 13:32.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, dude. 13:33.009 --> 13:38.310 [SPEAKER_03]: If you, if you could get me a free ticket, I would definitely go. 13:38.951 --> 13:45.432 [SPEAKER_02]: So I, I'm sure I've said this before on the pod, but my number one way to do it. 13:46.532 --> 13:48.313 [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes it's, it's even easy. 13:48.353 --> 13:59.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can do a day of community service up there and get a ticket, or you can sometimes the email them out like 24 hours before the, the gates open on Friday, 14:02.856 --> 14:27.470 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but the easiest or my favorite way is every year they do a, uh, name a porta potty contest and you submit like a potty title and they'll put, they'll choose like 10 winners and they'll put them on the porta potty's somewhere on the festival grounds and the submissions that people do are pretty fucking basic. 14:27.510 --> 14:29.772 [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be like Vladimir Putin. 14:30.995 --> 14:32.037 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's funny. 14:33.258 --> 14:35.761 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry to have to tell you Zach, that's really

funny. 14:36.623 --> 14:38.665 [SPEAKER_02]: You can come up with better shit than that. 14:39.226 --> 14:41.209 [SPEAKER_02]: Just by thinking about it a little bit. 14:41.709 --> 14:47.597 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I have a notes app note in my phone that's just riddled with like. 14:48.538 --> 14:50.539 [SPEAKER_02]: potential submissions that I can use. 14:51.620 --> 14:57.423 [SPEAKER_02]: And okay, one year I want it with Hender Shark and a blender, which isn't easy. 14:57.483 --> 14:58.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's good. 14:58.084 --> 14:59.605 [SPEAKER_03]: That's Eve 6 of course. 15:00.105 --> 15:06.109 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Riot Fest has like this funny like Twitter spat back and forth with the guy from Eve 6. 15:07.209 --> 15:07.790 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really? 15:08.190 --> 15:08.450 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 15:08.470 --> 15:09.671 [SPEAKER_03]: Are they not very popular? 15:10.391 --> 15:12.592 [SPEAKER_02]: People wanted them to play Riot Fest one year. 15:17.808 --> 15:18.449 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay. 15:18.689 --> 15:24.072 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's get on free tickets for that because I want to do that. 15:24.092 --> 15:28.354 [SPEAKER_02]: I, yeah, I think I was going to try and do louder than life this year instead. 15:28.394 --> 15:44.943 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never done it before and there's like one day of louder than life that's like pretty similar to like when we were young that I did in Vegas a few years ago that I flew out for and I can get a ticket to that for a hundred dollars with my IU student email. 15:45.903 --> 16:04.148 [SPEAKER_02]: And if I were to ride it fast, I would want to do two days because Foxy plays on Friday, but then like, ride eyes in Morrissey play on Saturday, whereas louder than life, it's in Louisville, and it'd be one day, and I could just drive down and then drive back and that be it. 16:04.988 --> 16:06.768 [SPEAKER_03]: listeners, here's my prediction. 16:07.249 --> 16:11.489 [SPEAKER_03]: Zach does three days at Riot Fest and goes to louder than life. 16:12.810 --> 16:17.091 [SPEAKER_02]: If it wasn't for this school program and working weekends, I definitely would. 16:17.111 --> 16:21.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it just gives you this up to me, I do all of it. 16:22.432 --> 16:25.172 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's send it over to our sponsor, Riot Fest. 16:25.992 --> 16:27.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Every business says they're better. 16:29.213 --> 16:31.274 [SPEAKER_00]: But the ones that earn and display the baby 16:33.829 --> 16:40.811 [SPEAKER_00]: It instantly identifies businesses that are committed to operating within integrity, honoring promises, and telling the truth. 16:41.331 --> 16:43.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure, wonder why every business doesn't have it. 16:44.252 --> 16:46.793 [SPEAKER_00]: So look for it, because it's looking out for you. 16:47.333 --> 16:53.475 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's the sign of a better business and find a better business anytime at BBB.org. 16:56.436 --> 16:57.016 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're back. 16:57.076 --> 16:57.636 [SPEAKER_03]: We're back. 16:57.896 --> 16:58.977 [SPEAKER_03]: Please catch us up. 16:59.437 --> 17:01.097 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure everybody forgot. 17:03.870 --> 17:04.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man. 17:05.091 --> 17:06.232 [SPEAKER_02]: There's two of them now. 17:06.812 --> 17:08.373 [SPEAKER_03]: Two Spider-Man. 17:09.474 --> 17:10.575 [SPEAKER_03]: This is getting out of hand. 17:10.835 --> 17:11.796 [SPEAKER_03]: Out there are two of them. 17:12.536 --> 17:20.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought about amending the intro where I said miles were Alice, the one and only Spider-Man, because we're in this series, but whatever. 17:20.662 --> 17:21.402 [SPEAKER_02]: That's too much work. 17:21.883 --> 17:28.287 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the only thing I or anyone else is going to remember about the intro this week is the Flob that you had. 17:31.129 --> 17:33.110 [SPEAKER_03]: And if I'm adding, I'm leaving it in. 17:33.130 --> 17:37.371 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say you're editing this one, so that's I can't take it out. 17:38.031 --> 17:39.971 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, happens once an episode, right? 17:40.472 --> 17:40.732 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 17:41.172 --> 17:47.834 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Peter from the 616 universe got sent by Mysterio to Earth 1610. 17:49.354 --> 17:56.639 [SPEAKER_02]: And we learned that the Mysterio from Earth 616 has been the Mysterio of 1610 the whole time. 17:56.719 --> 18:06.745 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just created some technology where he can send like an avatar Mysterio into a different universe and do villainy over there, which I think is hilarious. 18:06.785 --> 18:08.006 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like him playing the Sims. 18:08.706 --> 18:16.132 [SPEAKER_03]: It is hilarious, and it is good because as we found out, Mysterio doesn't really look like this guy. 18:16.652 --> 18:21.636 [SPEAKER_03]: He does have a fishbowl head, so all is right in the world. 18:22.276 --> 18:26.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and here's the rub listeners. 18:27.941 --> 18:30.182 [SPEAKER_02]: This was a five issue many series. 18:30.222 --> 18:33.265 [SPEAKER_02]: We usually cover two issues in a week. 18:33.965 --> 18:57.184 [SPEAKER_02]: but we also saw Spider-Man brand new day together uh... over the weekend so i forget about that i knew there was something else we're supposed to talk about i'm sorry Zach the engagement just took over i'm that's understandable i mean that'll survive this episode you know long long after this episode's forgotten but yeah big week and 18:57.985 --> 19:16.664 [SPEAKER_02]: good on us, honestly genius, brilliant master strategists of us choosing a five-issue arc where we can do a single issue this episode and offset it with tales of grad school and engagement and the Spider-Man movie. 19:17.405 --> 19:18.285 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're just doing this. 19:18.525 --> 19:22.126 [SPEAKER_02]: This one issue and then we'll talk about the movie and then John and Mandy are getting nice

cream. 19:24.267 --> 19:24.847 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. 19:25.067 --> 19:25.908 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wins. 19:26.648 --> 19:26.928 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 19:27.508 --> 19:30.269 [SPEAKER_02]: That said, we didn't choose who's covering this one. 19:30.789 --> 19:31.509 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll I'll take it. 19:31.809 --> 19:32.330 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. 19:32.610 --> 19:33.650 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll drive. 19:34.530 --> 19:34.830 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 19:35.551 --> 19:35.831 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 19:35.871 --> 19:37.151 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is Spider-Man. 19:37.431 --> 19:41.532 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I get to listen to your your soldier voice anyways. 19:42.273 --> 19:43.073 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you two kind. 19:44.072 --> 19:47.235 [SPEAKER_02]: should I do it as well as a junior. 19:48.756 --> 19:50.718 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, I've got everybody got a taste of that. 19:51.318 --> 19:57.283 [SPEAKER_03]: Zach, you were pulling off a great RFK junior impression before we started recording. 19:57.303 --> 20:01.106 [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, you should do it as that. 20:01.627 --> 20:08.373 [SPEAKER_02]: I wish that wasn't the one I was good at, because I don't think you're really supposed to make fun of him, because it is like a medical thing or something. 20:08.853 --> 20:10.574 [SPEAKER_02]: I wish I could do a Trump, but I can't. 20:11.915 --> 20:14.656 [SPEAKER_03]: Zack, you know, you can make fun of them. 20:14.676 --> 20:15.897 [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay. 20:16.717 --> 20:22.840 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, John, I wish thank you for that Getting into the issue. 20:23.000 --> 20:26.282 [SPEAKER_02]: It's written by Ryan Michael and this we just lost 50 first 20:30.163 --> 20:35.684 [SPEAKER_02]: penciled by Sarah Pachele and inked by Justin Ponser and ledred by Corey Petite. 20:36.244 --> 20:51.708 [SPEAKER_02]: And we open with the two Spider-Man on a pier in New York and they're looking at the ultimate magneto, you know, the one that John Hates with the the fucking sexy black latex and the flaming hatey's head. 20:52.228 --> 20:54.849 [SPEAKER_03]: As I've said before, I don't hate the way he looks. 20:55.549 --> 20:56.249 [SPEAKER_03]: I hate that it's 21:00.370 --> 21:03.393 [SPEAKER_02]: And this guy has a rosary for some reason that's right. 21:03.433 --> 21:06.716 [SPEAKER_02]: He does and they're they're doing like the exposition. 21:06.736 --> 21:13.201 [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, hey, who's that guy and Peter tells him oh, oh, no, I'm sorry. 21:13.222 --> 21:16.725 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have to cut that John it's with all these new buyer men. 21:16.785 --> 21:17.926 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to keep track. 21:18.506 --> 21:21.728 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, they're right next to each other. 21:21.768 --> 21:23.630 [SPEAKER_02]: They're speech bubbles are on top of each other. 21:23.730 --> 21:25.031 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's real annoying. 21:25.811 --> 21:30.274 [SPEAKER_02]: So miles is like, let's going on and Peter's like, I don't know, I just got here. 21:30.795 --> 21:34.377 [SPEAKER_02]: And then miles is like, oh, wait, I've seen this guy online. 21:34.417 --> 21:35.358 [SPEAKER_02]: He's Mysterio. 21:35.898 --> 21:37.839 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's Mysterio, so. 21:38.700 --> 21:40.521 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, he gets his name wrong. 21:42.102 --> 21:42.823 [SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious. 21:43.455 --> 21:47.476 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize that Miles hasn't fought Mysterio. 21:48.016 --> 21:49.457 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess it was just a Peter thing. 21:49.817 --> 21:53.178 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I actually didn't realize that either until he said it. 21:53.958 --> 21:58.200 [SPEAKER_02]: And Mysterio says, how did you two fight each other so quickly? 21:58.260 --> 22:01.401 [SPEAKER_02]: How can the only two Spider-Man fight each other? 22:01.461 --> 22:03.341 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I like that. 22:03.421 --> 22:05.362 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's so funny when like... 22:06.302 --> 22:11.584 [SPEAKER_02]: In things like this, like the world is so small, like of course, the heroes are going to run into each other. 22:12.384 --> 22:17.446 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and Zack, I hate to interrupt you, but, man, you just got back. 22:18.227 --> 22:21.448 [SPEAKER_03]: So I bet we're going to have a guest up here and soon. 22:22.148 --> 22:22.428 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. 22:22.468 --> 22:24.569 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's vamp for time until she gets here. 22:25.089 --> 22:25.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 22:26.470 --> 22:29.031 [SPEAKER_02]: So a mollusk walks up to a sea urchin. 22:29.991 --> 22:31.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, actually, he doesn't walk. 22:31.532 --> 22:32.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Mollusk's don't walk. 22:32.672 --> 22:33.273 [SPEAKER_02]: He swims. 22:40.962 --> 22:42.723 [SPEAKER_02]: that's it's nothing. 22:43.663 --> 22:49.526 [SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be a flop of a joke, but if it's a lot of a reference, then that's that doubly fails. 22:49.546 --> 22:51.507 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I wasn't listening. 22:52.607 --> 22:56.509 [SPEAKER_02]: It's from finding out whatever people are like, hey, you're a clown fish. 22:56.529 --> 22:57.409 [SPEAKER_02]: You're supposed to be funny. 22:57.429 --> 22:58.130 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us a joke. 22:58.850 --> 23:04.132 [SPEAKER_02]: And he just like flubs his way through like he you never hear the punch line. 23:05.533 --> 23:07.534 [SPEAKER_02]: He's messing up the set up. 23:07.774 --> 23:08.674 [SPEAKER_03]: That's really funny. 23:08.794 --> 23:09.915 [SPEAKER_03]: Movies used to be funny. 23:11.027 --> 23:11.447 [SPEAKER_02]: They did. 23:11.467 --> 23:13.828 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I watched Bugs Life the other day. 23:14.168 --> 23:15.929 [SPEAKER_02]: Movies also used to be Marxist. 23:16.509 --> 23:20.511 [SPEAKER_02]: Like very Marxist, Lininist, in a children's movie. 23:20.551 --> 23:25.853 [SPEAKER_02]: They were just cool with killing the grasshoppers because that was what was right for the greater good. 23:26.413 --> 23:26.693 [SPEAKER_03]: Was it?

23:26.893 --> 23:28.754 [SPEAKER_03]: And I love it. 23:29.154 --> 23:30.295 [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's all heavy handed. 23:31.007 --> 23:34.348 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, that's how it's gonna ask is how heavy-handed was it. 23:34.808 --> 23:39.510 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, but like, would like, would like, conservatives see a bug's life today. 23:39.530 --> 23:44.032 [SPEAKER_03]: If it came out today, would maybe like, did they just fucking, you know? 23:44.572 --> 23:46.473 [SPEAKER_03]: No, but this is some PC. 23:47.293 --> 23:48.814 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, conservatives can't. 23:49.534 --> 23:50.814 [SPEAKER_02]: can't analyze art. 23:51.435 --> 23:55.916 [SPEAKER_02]: They're just trained on like buzzwords and like reactionary content, right? 23:56.396 --> 24:02.018 [SPEAKER_02]: And so what they get mad about is like liberal shit, like Zootopia or something. 24:02.919 --> 24:04.639 [SPEAKER_02]: Logs life is full on communist. 24:04.759 --> 24:08.981 [SPEAKER_02]: It's speaking a language that conservatives wouldn't even understand. 24:09.061 --> 24:10.801 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it would go over their head. 24:10.821 --> 24:12.522 [SPEAKER_03]: I love Brewsters. 24:13.889 --> 24:18.993 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know how a conservative would even accidentally see I love theasters. 24:20.495 --> 24:23.837 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually have a list of things that I need to do. 24:25.098 --> 24:28.561 [SPEAKER_02]: And one of them is I want to write a screenplay for a bird's life. 24:29.422 --> 24:32.585 [SPEAKER_02]: And it will be the spiritual successor to a bug's life. 24:32.945 --> 24:35.627 [SPEAKER_02]: But it will be twice as Marxist and it will follow birds. 24:36.007 --> 24:36.528 [SPEAKER_03]: I like that. 24:37.028 --> 24:38.209 [SPEAKER_03]: Here she is everyone. 24:38.229 --> 24:40.952 [SPEAKER_03]: It's an audio medium, but it's me here. 24:41.892 --> 24:42.413 [SPEAKER_03]: Say hello. 24:45.435 --> 24:47.437 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we can't resist for us in the sack. 24:49.879 --> 24:51.441 [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, I'm Andy. 24:51.641 --> 24:53.082 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't hear me, but I'm saying hi. 24:53.903 --> 24:54.704 [SPEAKER_01]: How am I going to hear him? 24:55.564 --> 24:56.085 [SPEAKER_02]: Here you go. 24:57.786 --> 25:02.751 [SPEAKER_02]: I just said, hey, Andy, you can't hear me, but I'm saying hi, and I fought John with 25:03.454 --> 25:06.376 [SPEAKER_02]: relay that, and then you were like, how am I going to hear him? 25:07.937 --> 25:08.817 [SPEAKER_01]: What are we talking about? 25:08.837 --> 25:09.718 [SPEAKER_01]: We talking about the movie? 25:10.358 --> 25:11.839 [SPEAKER_02]: We hadn't got to the movie yet. 25:11.859 --> 25:13.040 [SPEAKER_02]: We're still on the issue. 25:14.101 --> 25:14.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 25:15.161 --> 25:16.562 [SPEAKER_03]: But he broke it. 25:16.582 --> 25:18.163 [SPEAKER_03]: You just wanted to say hi to the webhead. 25:18.203 --> 25:20.244 [SPEAKER_03]: Show off your ring to the camera. 25:20.785

--> 25:22.246 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was an audio medium. 25:22.446 --> 25:25.428 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it is, but you can still show it off. 25:25.968 --> 25:27.209 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, hi, webheads. 25:27.969 --> 25:30.030 [SPEAKER_01]: John loves me down and got me a beautiful ring. 25:30.851 --> 25:30.971 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. 25:31.852 --> 25:32.472 [SPEAKER_03]: It is beautiful. 25:32.743 --> 25:50.700 [SPEAKER_01]: did you guys already tell the story we told the story how we went to the zoo in the song and acted a great job recording yes yes you did except for that damn kid that was crying I wish I had wrote him into the elephant enclosure oh my gosh I think it's a good sign 25:52.036 --> 26:16.962 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I know that Zach went above and beyond disguising the fact that this was no ordinary zoo visit because on our tickets, as a pulley, Zach texted and said, hey, I only got some free tickets to the zoo, even though it was a pulley, and then on the tickets Zach wrote, what room number, Shaila is just a throw, 26:19.222 --> 26:22.683 [SPEAKER_03]: And it almost worked, too, Zach, but she knew it was coming. 26:24.544 --> 26:28.365 [SPEAKER_02]: I made it look like the tickets came from a school administrator. 26:29.106 --> 26:34.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's funny is I did think that it was going to happen on the zoo day because of the song. 26:34.508 --> 26:41.410 [SPEAKER_01]: However, when we had been at the zoo for three hours in the very, very hot weather, I was like, oh, it's not happening. 26:42.371 --> 26:43.291 [SPEAKER_01]: And I put my hair up. 26:44.011 --> 26:46.012 [SPEAKER_01]: Little did I know that it was coming. 26:49.168 --> 26:52.610 [SPEAKER_01]: I was on my toes, I was overheated, nor resuminated, and ready to go home. 26:52.951 --> 26:54.492 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was grateful what happened. 26:54.652 --> 26:55.612 [SPEAKER_01]: And found my second wind. 26:56.293 --> 27:01.536 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he would have done it sooner if the elephants weren't at the very back of the zoo. 27:02.076 --> 27:03.577 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you're right. 27:04.078 --> 27:11.062 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that you had to take the train to see the elephants and you saw no animals on the tram that was interesting. 27:11.082 --> 27:12.103 [SPEAKER_03]: We saw bunch of buildings. 27:12.543 --> 27:15.485 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that train was really something. 27:16.346 --> 27:18.527 [SPEAKER_01]: I told John last night, it may have been a scam. 27:18.768 --> 27:20.548 [SPEAKER_01]: But we really appreciate that you took us on. 27:20.588 --> 27:21.389 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right. 27:21.769 --> 27:27.030 [SPEAKER_03]: She did say last night, she said, you got to tell everyone that the train on the zoo is a scam. 27:27.550 --> 27:31.331 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you guys go to the Indianapolis Zoo, do not pay for the rides. 27:31.411 --> 27:32.451 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not worth it. 27:32.951 --> 27:41.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Or if you do just understand that, while you may be expecting a safari, the only animals we will see are carved into different shrubbery. 27:42.554 --> 27:44.674 [SPEAKER_03]: The real safari is in your hearts. 27:47.979 --> 27:48.559 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. 27:49.941 --> 27:53.203 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, man, the before before we send you off. 27:54.184 --> 28:01.289 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell us what's your review of spider man and in whatever review metric you want to give it. 28:01.890 --> 28:03.431 [SPEAKER_03]: You've listened to the podcast. 28:03.551 --> 28:04.872 [SPEAKER_03]: So you know how we do things. 28:04.892 --> 28:10.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I sorry, Percy, the cat haven't seen me in two days and the cats are very 28:12.471 --> 28:13.512 [SPEAKER_01]: Omaha was all over me. 28:13.852 --> 28:14.272 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. 28:15.132 --> 28:26.638 [SPEAKER_01]: I would give it a rating of we just went to Skyline Chili on our road trip and there's a three way a four way or a five way and I think the five ways the best. 28:26.738 --> 28:28.279 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to give it a five way. 28:28.846 --> 28:47.832 [SPEAKER_02]: a five out of five way five out of five way I love that I skyline chilly used to be my favorite I'm vegetarian now but there was a summer where I worked kind of near one and for about the first month I was eating there like every day 28:48.537 --> 28:56.279 [SPEAKER_01]: was acted you know that they have a vegetarian option available now that you can substitute any chili offering for rice and beans at no additional charge. 28:57.120 --> 29:00.241 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that, but I just liked the original so damn much. 29:02.161 --> 29:03.401 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the laughing piece. 29:03.461 --> 29:04.902 [SPEAKER_03]: Stupid little system too. 29:05.985 --> 29:15.969 [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea what Zach was saying that whole time I assumed it was something spider-man-related and then the vegetarian man, you're going to skyline chili, it's the next thing that comes out. 29:15.989 --> 29:18.570 [SPEAKER_02]: This is fun. 29:18.590 --> 29:28.914 [SPEAKER_02]: We should do podcasts where there's three hosts and one of them doesn't have a head phone and it just has to guess, contextualy what is happening in the conversation. 29:29.434 --> 29:30.074 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. 29:30.675 --> 29:34.176 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that could be the next big thing in podcasting. 29:34.905 --> 29:37.347 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a fabulous movie. 29:37.487 --> 29:38.588 [SPEAKER_01]: I was on the edge of my seat. 29:38.708 --> 29:42.311 [SPEAKER_01]: I did cry a couple times for that may have been because I was feeling emotional. 29:42.871 --> 29:43.952 [SPEAKER_01]: How much I love John. 29:43.972 --> 29:44.873 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:45.073 --> 29:45.493 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:45.653 --> 29:46.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:46.674 --> 29:48.856 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's my cue that he would like me to leave.

29:49.697 --> 29:52.419 [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna cut out the last 15 seconds of this. 29:52.959 --> 29:53.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe more. 29:55.848 --> 29:57.609 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually would love if you stay. 29:57.649 --> 30:00.350 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to just take his spot and read this issue? 30:01.210 --> 30:01.770 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 30:01.910 --> 30:02.830 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't. 30:03.030 --> 30:05.211 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was just offered your job. 30:05.931 --> 30:07.591 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, take it, please. 30:07.611 --> 30:11.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll say we can't wait for our Franklin days. 30:11.512 --> 30:12.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Zach, it's good to see you and hear you. 30:12.953 --> 30:13.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Goodbye. 30:13.759 --> 30:14.339 [SPEAKER_02]: good to see you. 30:14.900 --> 30:19.382 [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be fun for you to edit and you're like, what were they even talking about? 30:20.222 --> 30:22.463 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so there you have it. 30:22.483 --> 30:23.944 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a teaser for everybody. 30:24.184 --> 30:26.145 [SPEAKER_03]: Spider man is a five out of five way. 30:26.766 --> 30:29.027 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, that's such a good metric. 30:29.107 --> 30:31.368 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised with how much I like Skyline chili. 30:31.728 --> 30:33.309 [SPEAKER_02]: We've never used that on the pod. 30:33.995 --> 30:36.297 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it doesn't come up very often in Spider-Man. 30:36.357 --> 30:39.260 [SPEAKER_03]: We usually try to make something related to the comics. 30:39.700 --> 30:41.121 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, but that actually sucks. 30:41.221 --> 30:43.864 [SPEAKER_03]: We should make it more random. 30:44.684 --> 30:45.265 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. 30:46.466 --> 30:47.347 [SPEAKER_03]: OK, where were we? 30:47.407 --> 30:49.108 [SPEAKER_03]: Spider-Man, they were fighting. 30:49.208 --> 30:54.913 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, we're 40 minutes in and we're going to be right there on the second page of the one issue that we're doing. 30:54.933 --> 30:56.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, fourth page. 30:57.276 --> 30:58.797 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but the first two were title pages. 31:00.318 --> 31:20.143 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, so yeah, the stereo is fighting them and we see one little panel that reminds us that he is actually in the 616 universe controlling his 1610 body with like some kind of, you know, machine. 31:20.655 --> 31:36.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't, I'm not sure it's ever like fully explained what's happening because I found myself not really understanding how he was controlling this or like how real the the stuff was. 31:37.431 --> 31:37.792 [SPEAKER_02]: I think. 31:38.513 --> 31:46.278 [SPEAKER_02]: that's almost just as interesting if not more to this story besides like the two Spider-Man meeting each other. 31:46.398 --> 31:56.085 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the idea of a villain who gets his ass kicked consistently in his own universe so he has to create an avatar and go terrorize a different one. 31:56.665 --> 31:58.467 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just I don't know there's something to me. 31:59.227 --> 32:23.340 [SPEAKER_02]: that is um it's potent it's funny it's can't be I like it it's not that far removed from like someone just playing video games and like grand theft auto and taking their anger out it reminds me of the episode of the office where they're like I found to white second life he's a mid west paper salesman that's right 32:24.826 --> 32:26.188 [SPEAKER_02]: The only difference is he can fly. 32:26.208 --> 32:27.409 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 32:28.831 --> 32:34.538 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Mysterio does a big shock and blows them into the water, and he's like, I should run. 32:34.558 --> 32:38.042 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he realizes immediately why the fuck would he do that. 32:38.142 --> 32:39.444 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not even there physically. 32:39.504 --> 32:42.988 [SPEAKER_02]: He can just beat up on them with like no repercussions to himself. 32:43.949 --> 33:01.943 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Spider-Man crawled out of the water and they're met with a whole host of villains from both of their universes, which we know because we see Uncle Aaron and we see the scorpion where he's just got the big chain. 33:01.983 --> 33:04.825 [SPEAKER_02]: They're from the ultimate universe, but then we see 33:11.350 --> 33:11.730 [SPEAKER_02]: hat. 33:12.291 --> 33:15.652 [SPEAKER_02]: That would not be something that Miles knows about. 33:16.173 --> 33:18.034 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he looks like in 616. 33:18.774 --> 33:22.837 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's also a pretty fucked up looking dock-ock. 33:23.737 --> 33:26.799 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I was wondering, well, is that dock-ocker? 33:27.579 --> 33:31.401 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so, because flip the page really quickly and look at them. 33:31.842 --> 33:32.302 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so. 33:32.362 --> 33:33.443 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a cool. 33:33.963 --> 33:35.544 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was just a spider slayer. 33:36.224 --> 33:37.726 [SPEAKER_02]: but no, I think you're right. 33:37.746 --> 33:38.727 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it could be. 33:39.288 --> 33:39.788 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 33:40.810 --> 33:41.631 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 33:41.951 --> 33:46.336 [SPEAKER_02]: The point is, these are not like, we're kind of being tipped off. 33:46.356 --> 33:48.999 [SPEAKER_02]: These aren't really, these guys aren't really here. 33:49.080 --> 33:50.261 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a mysterious thing. 33:51.022 --> 33:51.583 [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, 33:52.083 --> 33:54.104 [SPEAKER_02]: Peter says that he's like, don't sweat at kid. 33:54.124 --> 33:55.564 [SPEAKER_02]: These are just illusions. 33:55.604 --> 33:56.284 [SPEAKER_02]: It's what he does. 33:56.824 --> 34:00.025 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, this is classic Mysterio nonsense. 34:00.045 --> 34:09.908 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the arm, I still am not entirely sure if this is Doc Ocker, a spider slayer, but it's arm grabs

him and throws him and hurts me. 34:09.928 --> 34:11.148 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, never mind, I was wrong. 34:11.968 --> 34:13.550 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what that means. 34:13.570 --> 34:17.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how, you know, something you're really grabbing him. 34:18.537 --> 34:21.301 [SPEAKER_02]: Something is literally beating the shit out of these guys. 34:21.441 --> 34:24.104 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're, it's physically there, but it's not what it looks like. 34:24.705 --> 34:29.111 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also not drones, like in the, you know, MCU movie. 34:30.252 --> 34:36.739 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're getting the shit beat out of them and then, uh, Mysterio says my favorite part is when the joke stop. 34:37.219 --> 34:38.261 [SPEAKER_02]: That's when I know. 34:38.281 --> 34:51.915 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's saying like that's when I know I've won, but historically we know that when Spider-Man stops joking, it's when he's about to go try hard mode and fucking beat the bad guys to within an inch of their life. 34:52.395 --> 35:02.140 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I wonder if the like rosary that he always has around his hand is somehow connected because we've mentioned it a couple times. 35:02.260 --> 35:09.083 [SPEAKER_03]: It's always visible and even in these shots, it's the only part of his hand that's visible. 35:09.623 --> 35:10.183 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 35:10.263 --> 35:16.647 [SPEAKER_02]: It does seem to be like the the focus of two panels back to back. 35:17.267 --> 35:27.233 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's something with like this amulet at the end of the rosary is giving him like multi-versal dimension. 35:27.533 --> 35:36.118 [SPEAKER_03]: But even that wouldn't explain how he seems these things that he's making seem to like actually be doing damage and whatnot. 35:36.557 --> 35:39.158 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's a different part of the equation altogether. 35:39.518 --> 35:42.039 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like some other weapon he's got figured out. 35:42.419 --> 35:50.122 [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy how much time and effort he's put into cultivating his ultimate universe counterpart. 35:50.362 --> 35:53.803 [SPEAKER_02]: Instead of just doing shit in his material world. 35:55.243 --> 36:02.726 [SPEAKER_02]: And Miles sees Uncle Aaron as the prowler, pointing a gun out of him and he's like Uncle Aaron, but you're dead. 36:03.417 --> 36:08.241 [SPEAKER_02]: And Peter grabs miles with the web and is like, kid, get out of there and yanks him. 36:09.242 --> 36:19.530 [SPEAKER_02]: And miles is eventually like, I mean, I'm summarizing this fight because it's a lot of cool panels of both spider-man fighting like all their notable heroes. 36:19.570 --> 36:23.613 [SPEAKER_02]: But nothing is actually changing in the course of this battle. 36:24.353 --> 36:46.716 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's getting attacked by Venom, and then he's getting blasted by Mysterio, and you know, Doc OX arms are grabbing him, and I will say the lizard looks, I think he looks pretty cool, and he also looks pretty silly, which I guess is a good, you know, line to be around in a comic book, right, so Miles is like, 36:47.717 --> 36:48.177 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. 36:48.217 --> 36:48.877 [SPEAKER_02]: I got this. 36:49.098 --> 36:52.819 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take this dude out and he starts charging at Mysterio. 36:53.519 --> 36:59.821 [SPEAKER_02]: And Mysterio, it seems like he's just creating these apparations out of thin air whenever he needs more of them. 37:00.101 --> 37:02.322 [SPEAKER_02]: Because Miles is now fought his way. 37:03.062 --> 37:09.350 [SPEAKER_02]: through all of the villains that were between him and Mysterio, and then all of a sudden the Hulk comes through the mist. 37:09.790 --> 37:15.137 [SPEAKER_03]: And, and it's just a harp on what these characters look like again one more time. 37:15.758 --> 37:17.820 [SPEAKER_03]: The green goblin looks so awesome. 37:18.701 --> 37:23.909 [SPEAKER_03]: There's really just no reason to not have him be looking like that all the time. 37:24.931 --> 37:27.534 [SPEAKER_02]: I love the Green Goblins classic design. 37:27.554 --> 37:29.578 [SPEAKER_02]: I also love his ultimate design. 37:30.018 --> 37:33.864 [SPEAKER_02]: I also love his design in the first Spider-Man movie. 37:34.725 --> 37:36.887 [SPEAKER_02]: I just fucking love the Green Goblin dude. 37:36.907 --> 37:37.928 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a good character. 37:38.528 --> 37:40.309 [SPEAKER_02]: I love him so much. 37:41.090 --> 37:53.760 [SPEAKER_02]: And so Miles jumps over the Hulk and punches Mysterio, the Avatar in the face, and then Mysterio in the main universe falls backwards like he could feel it. 37:54.260 --> 37:57.222 [SPEAKER_02]: And Miles is on top of the Mysterio Avatar. 37:58.023 --> 38:23.060 [SPEAKER_02]: he's he's just like bashing it against the floor he's like turn it off whatever you're doing turn it off he says he out of my head yes because they figured out their he's pulling the fears out of their heads it's kind of like a scarecrow's fear toxin and Peter has figured this out he says it's chemicals kid it took me a second because he's using something new and it's super advanced but it's an illusion with a fierce chemical component 38:23.880 --> 38:26.682 [SPEAKER_02]: pulling our fears out of our heads and hitting us with them. 38:27.082 --> 38:30.524 [SPEAKER_02]: So the heroes of one, the bad guys start like fading into dust. 38:31.344 --> 38:37.907 [SPEAKER_03]: And they do grab the amulet and throw it in the water, and that seems to stop it. 38:38.408 --> 38:42.630 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're right, that is what did the multiverse stuff. 38:43.205 --> 38:43.505 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 38:44.125 --> 38:53.909 [SPEAKER_02]: And as he's like losing control of his avatar, back in the main universe, Mysterio says, you're right. 38:53.929 --> 38:56.410 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I was going about this all wrong. 38:56.910 --> 39:01.192 [SPEAKER_02]: But sticking you

there with no way home, banishing you in a world that thinks you're dead. 39:01.212 --> 39:05.654 [SPEAKER_02]: And as he's saying that, he's like pulling plugs out of his machine. 39:06.454 --> 39:12.399 [SPEAKER_02]: So, at this point, Mysterio's plan is not, I'm going to kill Peter Parker in the Ultimate Universe. 39:13.220 --> 39:16.463 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all just, uh, shipwreck him there. 39:17.123 --> 39:18.684 [SPEAKER_02]: Andy and he said no way home. 39:19.605 --> 39:20.606 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh. 39:20.906 --> 39:21.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 39:22.187 --> 39:23.669 [SPEAKER_03]: Now we are good at this. 39:24.249 --> 39:28.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Gosh, I was trying to figure out because I'm this screen with the green goblin. 39:28.413 --> 39:30.735 [SPEAKER_03]: This is like what I was looking at when you were kind of saying that. 39:32.105 --> 39:35.547 [SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to figure out who that silhouette was. 39:36.048 --> 39:39.170 [SPEAKER_03]: That is like saying that, but that's just Peter. 39:39.770 --> 39:45.113 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, okay, because for a second, I was like, is that the green goblin saying that? 39:45.133 --> 39:47.335 [SPEAKER_03]: Does that mean he was actually like there? 39:48.015 --> 39:55.020 [SPEAKER_03]: But no, okay, so Peter said that and mysterious sticks in there and he's got no way home. 39:58.572 --> 40:05.677 [SPEAKER_02]: Then just for good measure, the Mysterio body blows up, but I don't even think that hurts the spider-man. 40:06.197 --> 40:12.081 [SPEAKER_02]: It just knocks him over and then when Miles opens his eyes, the ultimates are standing over him. 40:12.121 --> 40:19.526 [SPEAKER_02]: We've got Thor, Iron Man, and of course, the third member of the trip, let's Hawkeye. 40:27.333 --> 40:36.375 [SPEAKER_02]: and Nick Fury there, and he, we keep getting his, I'm glad Ben does his at least consistent with it, but I don't know why in every issue it seems. 40:36.675 --> 40:40.416 [SPEAKER_02]: He needs to say, this is Fury codename, one eye eagle. 40:40.956 --> 40:43.277 [SPEAKER_03]: That's such a messed up codename that they gave him. 40:44.537 --> 40:46.738 [SPEAKER_02]: Did they give it to him or did he give it to himself? 40:47.618 --> 40:52.239 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I don't know, but surely he gave it to himself. 40:52.719 --> 40:54.279 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little on the nose, though. 40:57.984 --> 41:00.345 [SPEAKER_03]: was he the two-eyed eagle before the incident? 41:01.105 --> 41:01.526 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 41:02.346 --> 41:04.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Shirley, I think you probably just figured it out. 41:04.827 --> 41:08.108 [SPEAKER_03]: He was the eagle, and then he lost an eye. 41:08.128 --> 41:10.309 [SPEAKER_03]: So he became the one-eyed eagle. 41:11.650 --> 41:15.491 [SPEAKER_02]: And if eagle was spelled with an eye, then they would have changed the spelling. 41:15.531 --> 41:19.373 [SPEAKER_02]: So he would have been eagle without an eye, but there was no eye in the word eagle.

41:19.973 --> 41:21.394 [SPEAKER_02]: So they had to get creative. 41:22.914 --> 41:36.265 [SPEAKER_02]: So now the ultimates are on the scene and they're, they made a perimeter, they're looking at the Mysterio machinery and they're trying to make sense of it and Tony Stark is like, oh, I've seen this before. 41:36.325 --> 41:37.686 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an avatar casting 41:38.447 --> 41:44.452 [SPEAKER_02]: He says, he was controlling that body from somewhere else, but this tech is fascinating. 41:45.252 --> 41:47.554 [SPEAKER_02]: And Nick Fury's like, well, how does it work? 41:47.995 --> 41:51.778 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's, yeah, Tony, we knew that part already. 41:52.298 --> 41:55.841 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we didn't need Tony Stark to come and explain that to us. 41:56.481 --> 42:00.905 [SPEAKER_03]: But this next part that he says is interesting, because, well, this is Tony Stark. 42:00.945 --> 42:04.548 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist inventor. 42:05.228 --> 42:06.089 [SPEAKER_02]: he knows everything. 42:06.409 --> 42:06.669 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 42:07.230 --> 42:09.011 [SPEAKER_02]: And Nick Fury's like, how's it work? 42:09.351 --> 42:12.153 [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, oh, this is a boven beyond me. 42:13.114 --> 42:17.017 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, Zach, I actually did it. 42:18.498 --> 42:27.004 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have like that panel pulled up and man, that got me pretty good because I was expecting him to actually like say something. 42:28.152 --> 42:34.661 [SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the fun with using one of the smartest inventors in the Marvel universe to look at in an invention. 42:35.041 --> 42:38.025 [SPEAKER_02]: It gives you the chance to have them say, I don't know what the hell this is. 42:38.065 --> 42:39.867 [SPEAKER_02]: This is way too smart for me. 42:40.308 --> 42:44.794 [SPEAKER_03]: So that means that the universe Peter comes from must just be more advanced. 42:45.420 --> 42:55.825 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a head cannon that in the Marvel universe, like, people are just better at STEM because everyone's inventing shit. 42:56.425 --> 43:01.287 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, even like dumb villains are like, I made me this wingsuit that flies. 43:01.607 --> 43:02.268 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 43:02.788 --> 43:03.048 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 43:03.448 --> 43:09.611 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, miles and Peter are like high schoolers who are creating their own tech. 43:10.071 --> 43:13.777 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just think humanity is way smarter at sciences. 43:14.618 --> 43:14.878 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 43:15.579 --> 43:21.247 [SPEAKER_02]: But this is a tease that, well, we're going to need someone smarter than Tony Stark probably to look at this. 43:22.068 --> 43:24.652 [SPEAKER_02]: And Miles says, where did the other Spider-Man go? 43:25.693 --> 43:40.811 [SPEAKER_02]: and Hawkeye is like another Spider-Man and Fury has to catch him up to speed because I don't I don't understand why Hawkeye, one of the most important ultimates, would be in the dark about something that like this that just happened. 43:40.831 --> 43:44.195 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how the hell could they not have briefed Hawkeye? 43:45.076 --> 43:46.278 [SPEAKER_02]: is that it's Hawkeye? 43:46.298 --> 43:53.871 [SPEAKER_03]: No, maybe Nick Fury is he plays Spider-Man things close to the chest now. 43:55.013 --> 43:58.078 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, but I guarantee you Thor and Tony knew. 43:59.040 --> 43:59.260 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 44:00.761 --> 44:03.063 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, where do you go? 44:03.423 --> 44:05.425 [SPEAKER_02]: And Furry says, ain't it obvious, kid? 44:06.005 --> 44:06.986 [SPEAKER_02]: He ran away from us. 44:07.567 --> 44:10.589 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't know if any of this is real, so he's gonna find out for himself. 44:11.129 --> 44:12.010 [SPEAKER_02]: It ain't gonna be pretty. 44:12.771 --> 44:18.735 [SPEAKER_02]: And just then we see Peter swinging through the city and he's thinking to himself, this ain't gonna be pretty. 44:19.336 --> 44:20.557 [SPEAKER_02]: This has to be an illusion. 44:21.297 --> 44:35.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Something I just realized, Peter's inner thought bubbles are also transported from the main universe that like that's a different speech bubble thought bubble format than what everyone in the ultimate universe uses. 44:36.394 --> 44:37.075 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're right. 44:37.636 --> 44:40.980 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it changes like one just on the one panel to the next. 44:41.480 --> 44:43.341 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a really nice touch. 44:43.721 --> 45:03.768 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Peter is convinced that this is all a Mysterio illusion and he's not actually in a different universe, so he goes to his apartment and he walks in and it's a bodega and he's like, hey how long has this been a bodega in the ladies like I don't know I've worked here two years he's like interesting there's never been an apartment building above here and 45:04.528 --> 45:23.415 [SPEAKER_03]: and there's a guy robbing the store and he's like really you're gonna do that right in front of me any websome and beats him up and uh and he sees it's always fun to see examples of New York just being the most crime-related place that you can imagine you know you can't walk into a gas station without it getting robbed 45:24.015 --> 45:39.221 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, also, I think this is showing that, I mean, this is a universe where people see Spider-Man or someone in a Spider-Man costume, and they assume that they're just dressed up like Peter Parker, because everyone knows that Spider-Man's dad. 45:39.521 --> 45:42.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So this villain of the week, 45:43.230 --> 45:54.557 [SPEAKER_02]: like Robert Guy walks in, sees Spider-Man standing there and doesn't even think twice and pulls out his gun and still tries to do the robbery because he thinks this is just a regular dude. 45:55.097 --> 45:55.438 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 45:56.338 --> 46:04.183 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's

what the lady thinks too, because Peter's like asks about her necklace and he's like, what's the deal with that? 46:04.243 --> 46:09.046 [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like doing the same thing you are trying to respect the little dude, but in a normal way. 46:09.766 --> 46:15.089 [SPEAKER_02]: And she shows him the daily bugle headline that says Spider-Man, RIP. 46:15.929 --> 46:22.052 [SPEAKER_02]: And so Peter freaks out and he goes to Queens and we see Parker House. 46:22.372 --> 46:23.672 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a different house. 46:23.913 --> 46:25.173 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way this is. 46:25.913 --> 46:27.874 [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't look like the house we've seen before. 46:28.114 --> 46:28.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think. 46:29.035 --> 46:31.496 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is not the Parker house. 46:31.536 --> 46:33.117 [SPEAKER_03]: This is where they live now. 46:33.677 --> 46:35.438 [SPEAKER_03]: It says the home of Peter Parker. 46:36.422 --> 46:40.567 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, also, I mean, I'm going to say I got him with another one. 46:40.607 --> 46:54.143 [SPEAKER_02]: It says for sale, Alison Blair Reeliter, Alison Blair is Dazzler, Dazzler died in ultimatum, but I don't think Bendis wrote that issue, so I don't think he knows that she's dead in the ultimatum universe. 46:54.919 --> 46:57.881 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, why are M.A. 46:58.222 --> 46:59.182 [SPEAKER_03]: and Gwen here? 46:59.903 --> 47:02.045 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it looks like they're trying to sell the house. 47:02.765 --> 47:06.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I thought they moved, maybe they were just like taking their vacations. 47:07.909 --> 47:10.852 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they took her vacations, but they still live there. 47:11.472 --> 47:37.857 [SPEAKER_02]: they still own it yeah but she's selling the place and so they're coming out of the door and they see a person dressed like spider-man standing on the front yard and they start yelling out of them they're like what's wrong with you get the hell out of here I'm calling the police and then Peter takes off his mask and he's crying and they look at heaven shock and the issue ends I'll tell you what I uh I want to see what happens next 47:38.601 --> 47:43.430 [SPEAKER_02]: I do too, damn, if only this was a six issue many theories. 47:44.958 --> 47:46.939 [SPEAKER_03]: who have reason to read the next one today. 47:47.480 --> 47:49.521 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, I flip the page. 47:49.581 --> 47:56.645 [SPEAKER_03]: I look at the next issue, T's, and it's Peter Parker holding miles in his arms. 47:56.945 --> 47:57.966 [SPEAKER_03]: And things don't look good. 47:58.626 --> 48:08.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is offset by a safe the date of North Star and Kyle holding each other in their arms, getting married, and it does look good. 48:08.712 --> 48:10.954 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, look at that juxtaposition. 48:11.214 --> 48:11.934 [SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty good. 48:11.954 --> 48:12.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 48:13.395 --> 48:14.676 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay. 48:15.276 --> 48:16.256 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I'll say. 48:16.276 --> 48:17.797 [SPEAKER_03]: I liked it a lot. 48:18.857 --> 48:20.158 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was a good one. 48:20.998 --> 48:22.579 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like in this entire run. 48:22.599 --> 48:27.200 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it just feels so good to have like Peter Parker back it. 48:29.121 --> 48:30.762 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's just a good time. 48:31.562 --> 48:34.763 [SPEAKER_03]: And seeing all the villains was fun. 48:36.444 --> 48:52.340 [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost cheating because we have like known this, we know Miles so well because we've read, we know we've been with him from the beginning, but we also know Peter Parker so well from our entire lives of knowing the character of Spider-Man. 48:53.181 --> 49:14.129 [SPEAKER_03]: so he just comes over so seamlessly and all of his villains come over and it's almost more fun because those are the original ones that we like might know and it's actually like this universe that kind of like gave us the changed ones so now we get to see all those like original villains also so it's good fun 49:14.808 --> 49:16.388 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it cuts both ways. 49:16.448 --> 49:21.910 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fun seeing miles look at a Peter Villain be like, what the hell is that? 49:22.310 --> 49:26.071 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's fun having Peter look at things about the ultimate universe. 49:26.091 --> 49:27.271 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, what the hell is that? 49:27.871 --> 49:28.211 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 49:28.351 --> 49:29.431 [SPEAKER_02]: A Triscillian, what? 49:30.352 --> 49:37.033 [SPEAKER_02]: And what's he going to say about teenage Gwen Stacy still being alive and living with Mary Jane? 49:37.053 --> 49:39.994 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he is going to be so perplexed next issue. 49:40.474 --> 49:40.954 [SPEAKER_03]: You're right. 49:41.074 --> 49:44.235 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to that conversation with Aunt May. 49:45.195 --> 49:48.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Shoot, what was I, what was I about to say? 49:48.576 --> 49:50.337 [SPEAKER_03]: Was it important? 49:51.557 --> 50:01.100 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not I love the detail of the speech bubbles being different if it's an ultimate number of character or six one six. 50:01.900 --> 50:07.022 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh Here's what I was gonna say and Mysterio is kind of like the perfect villain for this because 50:08.502 --> 50:12.027 [SPEAKER_03]: as we saw Peter is like, is this even happening? 50:12.388 --> 50:14.390 [SPEAKER_03]: This must be like an illusion. 50:14.971 --> 50:20.659 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're fighting the one villain where that actually makes sense, you know? 50:20.679 --> 50:25.345 [SPEAKER_03]: That probably makes more sense than getting transported into another universe. 50:26.001 --> 50:33.363 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love villains like this where it's less about fighting them head on. 50:33.403 --> 50:38.764 [SPEAKER_02]: It's more about like they can

change reality or your perception or your environment. 50:39.184 --> 50:46.946 [SPEAKER_02]: The X-Men also have some really good ones in like Mojo and Arcade and Spider-Man's fought Arcade before. 50:47.506 --> 50:51.587 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's great when the heroes are kind of put into like 50:52.587 --> 50:59.393 [SPEAKER_02]: through a gauntlet of challenges, instead of just like having a, you know, direct punch him up. 50:59.913 --> 51:05.598 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then like you said, even after the fights over with, it's still messing with Peter's head. 51:06.038 --> 51:08.260 [SPEAKER_02]: He's convinced he can just swing home. 51:09.061 --> 51:13.785 [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder what he is even trying to accomplish here. 51:13.805 --> 51:15.046 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 51:15.406 --> 51:17.488 [SPEAKER_03]: I like swinging away in the first place. 51:18.168 --> 51:25.912 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, on one hand, he's already seen a lot as Spider-Man and he should probably realize that this is what it looks like. 51:25.952 --> 51:33.136 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not out of the realm of possibility that he went to another universe, but also that has got to be so shocking. 51:33.917 --> 51:39.560 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that we get a moment of him like kind of trying to convince himself. 51:39.600 --> 51:40.420 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not happening. 51:41.121 --> 51:41.501 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 51:42.521 --> 51:43.762 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, pretty, pretty good one. 51:43.782 --> 51:43.882 [SPEAKER_03]: What 51:46.307 --> 51:53.732 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I don't know if you noticed for spider ran fights the Hulk in this one, because we because we're just good at our jobs. 51:55.493 --> 51:59.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he jumps over the Hulk, but yeah, we we definitely planned that. 52:01.458 --> 52:07.021 [SPEAKER_02]: Four years ago and we set out and scheduled the podcast with all of its breaks and whatnot. 52:07.842 --> 52:08.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 52:08.983 --> 52:10.384 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's part of the master plan. 52:11.364 --> 52:12.265 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give it. 52:13.472 --> 52:16.453 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like this one a lot, and I'm feeling generous. 52:16.513 --> 52:21.294 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give it a five way at Skyline Chili. 52:21.734 --> 52:25.114 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'll also give it a five out of five way from Skyline Chili. 52:26.135 --> 52:26.715 [SPEAKER_03]: Hell yeah. 52:27.175 --> 52:27.775 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good one. 52:27.895 --> 52:28.855 [SPEAKER_03]: This whole run is good. 52:29.615 --> 52:31.316 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully it can stick the landing. 52:31.536 --> 52:35.016 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we always say, you know, you just got to stick the landing. 52:35.056 --> 52:36.997 [SPEAKER_03]: So the whole storyline is good. 52:37.817 --> 52:39.237 [SPEAKER_03]: We always say that as a act. 52:39.337 --> 52:42.198 [SPEAKER_03]: That's if that's a favor saying on this podcast. 52:43.238 --> 52:43.478 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 52:43.978 --> 52:44.299 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 52:44.519 --> 52:46.380 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we have anything else real quick? 52:46.400 --> 52:47.140 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say this. 52:47.160 --> 52:49.441 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not Spider-Man related or anything. 52:50.001 --> 52:54.163 [SPEAKER_02]: One of my friends texted me this like an hour or two ago. 52:54.683 --> 52:59.746 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, David got in a car wreck at work and thinks he might have a concussion. 52:59.886 --> 53:02.807 [SPEAKER_02]: You should text him right now and say thanks for swinging by earlier. 53:02.847 --> 53:04.028 [SPEAKER_03]: Bro, he was good to see you. 53:04.971 --> 53:11.937 [SPEAKER_02]: So I did, and now I'm gaslighting our other friend that he said, how did you know I passed by? 53:11.957 --> 53:19.383 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, dude, we talked for like five minutes, trying to gaslight him into thinking that he came here and has no memory of it because he's talking to us. 53:19.403 --> 53:21.945 [SPEAKER_02]: You mean, how did you know I passed by? 53:21.965 --> 53:28.691 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing he drove by my house, but if he's concussed, I hope he's not dry. 53:28.771 --> 53:30.272 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on, man. 53:31.473 --> 53:32.053 [SPEAKER_03]: Zach. 53:32.134 --> 53:34.915 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure you should be doing this. 53:37.357 --> 53:39.178 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the friend we all mess with. 53:39.919 --> 53:42.340 [SPEAKER_02]: We're constantly running experiments on this guy. 53:42.360 --> 53:43.201 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 53:43.801 --> 53:44.101 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 53:44.141 --> 53:48.784 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I can't wait to hear how how this one goes over. 53:49.425 --> 53:52.947 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this came back to my mind because he responded. 53:53.387 --> 53:55.649 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I don't know how but I just 53:59.330 --> 54:02.455 [SPEAKER_02]: Which of course he did, but I'm going to be like, what are you talking about? 54:03.957 --> 54:04.618 [SPEAKER_03]: Good. 54:04.899 --> 54:06.862 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad that he sniffed this out. 54:08.123 --> 54:08.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 54:09.145 --> 54:09.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Moving on. 54:09.706 --> 54:13.451 [SPEAKER_03]: I do not have any more Spider-Man comic related things. 54:14.100 --> 54:14.400 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 54:14.881 --> 54:16.082 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk brand new day. 54:17.163 --> 54:21.466 [SPEAKER_02]: I really don't know what you think of this movie because we pretty much dipped right after it ended. 54:21.927 --> 54:22.307 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:22.927 --> 54:24.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit was that fun. 54:24.749 --> 54:27.611 [SPEAKER_03]: It was, I'd give it a five way. 54:28.092 --> 54:31.314 [SPEAKER_03]: Zach, I thought it was really, really good. 54:32.635 --> 54:45.080 [SPEAKER_02]: I would, too, and now I'm wondering where it ranks in like all time Spider-Man movies, because I have a tendency to do resency bias, and I really want

to say it's the best of all time. 54:45.901 --> 54:48.562 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's at least up there. 54:49.760 --> 54:51.480 [SPEAKER_02]: it's no further down than three. 54:52.001 --> 55:10.705 [SPEAKER_02]: I would I need to wait a minute and see if it has as much staying power as like Spider-Man 2 and into the Spider-Verse, but I was I went in with such low expectations and they just proved me wrong on all of them. 55:11.644 --> 55:16.790 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I think you're right that I think it's great. 55:18.112 --> 55:22.157 [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about this also like where where would I put it and. 55:24.377 --> 55:41.495 [SPEAKER_03]: Spider-Man 1 is so good, and Spider-Man 2 is so good, and I know everybody hates British home where he goes to London, and Spider-Man with I, but I like that one a lot also. 55:46.861 --> 55:47.762 [SPEAKER_03]: And we planned this. 55:47.862 --> 55:50.304 [SPEAKER_03]: And we did exactly. 55:51.625 --> 55:54.907 [SPEAKER_03]: But dude, I, this was really good. 55:55.047 --> 56:03.234 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not sure where I would rank it and those, you know, with those three, but I would put them all in the same tier. 56:04.154 --> 56:05.956 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just so much fun. 56:07.877 --> 56:26.430 [SPEAKER_03]: And I told you this that that I think right afterwards, but I'm going to start just not looking at any promotional stuff or media stuff at all for all superhero movies because I got a bunch of enjoyment out of this one not knowing what the story was at all. 56:27.510 --> 56:38.720 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I sort of knew Punisher was there and I sort of knew that the Hulk was going to be there, but Even they did not really have the roles that I like I didn't know what their role was going to be in the in the story. 56:38.760 --> 56:43.725 [SPEAKER_03]: So But it was just so good in the Punisher's just the best man. 56:43.885 --> 56:45.386 [SPEAKER_03]: What a what a team up. 56:45.927 --> 56:47.568 [SPEAKER_03]: They were just perfect together. 56:47.588 --> 56:47.668 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah 56:49.710 --> 56:52.171 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, God. 56:52.231 --> 56:59.193 [SPEAKER_02]: This is like what we, what we wanted, what we deserved when when they said spider man is entering the MCU. 56:59.854 --> 57:01.654 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought, oh, cool. 57:01.694 --> 57:11.918 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be like doing street level adventures and teaming up with everyone and being everyone's friend and he's going to be all over New York. 57:11.938 --> 57:14.419 [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be the most busy superhero they have there. 57:14.899 --> 57:33.421 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we got all these movies of him like being Tony's sidekick and then like not being in New York and then Oh, people know who he is and it always felt a little bit off like MCU Spider-Man was very much its own thing and this 57:35.503 --> 57:46.869 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like such a clear attempt, and I think successful attempt to kind of recapture some of what people love about comic spidey. 57:47.750 --> 57:52.052 [SPEAKER_02]: And I hope they were going to, when I heard, you know, oh, this character is going to be in it. 57:52.072 --> 57:53.153 [SPEAKER_02]: This actor is going to be in it. 57:53.173 --> 57:53.973 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to do this. 57:53.993 --> 57:55.134 [SPEAKER_02]: They're doing this storyline. 57:55.174 --> 57:57.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's that's too much. 57:57.855 --> 57:58.836 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's going to be. 57:59.816 --> 58:02.797 [SPEAKER_02]: to muddied and crowded, and it wasn't. 58:02.877 --> 58:10.158 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing, it's so much of that movie, is like quick references or montages. 58:11.119 --> 58:17.420 [SPEAKER_02]: And you like it, you're like, oh, cool, I see, you know, he fought this person, he fought this person, but it's just like a shot. 58:17.760 --> 58:27.222 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not taking away from the screen time for the arcs that you're actually following and have a reason to care about. 58:30.524 --> 58:31.104 [SPEAKER_02]: exciting. 58:31.625 --> 58:42.274 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to pee so bad through like a lot of that movie and I said I didn't know when to leave like I was like every every scene. 58:42.294 --> 58:44.135 [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking the exact same thing. 58:44.155 --> 58:52.042 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like itching to refill my soda for the entire second half of the movie and I was like I don't I don't want to miss something. 58:53.263 --> 58:53.504 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:54.687 --> 59:04.489 [SPEAKER_03]: So okay, so what was the what was the story exactly and then so maybe my guess people It's spoilers. 59:04.729 --> 59:16.412 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so what like what do you what did you think of the story with you know now especially spoilers, but with Jean Gray because I know you're an X man guy 59:17.623 --> 59:42.803 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well, that was not what I would have expected of Gene Gray, but I'm going to say I actually like it because it subverts a lot of the Gene Gray like slander that I think movie audiences have gotten and even even the TV show audiences like the the X man animated series Gene Gray. 59:43.643 --> 01:00:00.475 [SPEAKER_02]: is not really an accurate representation of the character like she is supposed to be super powerful and like sometimes she's emotional, sometimes she's mean, sometimes she's wrong, but she also is like a good person. 01:00:00.495 --> 01:00:08.701 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, she's used to, she ever like a teenager like she isn't this, like do you ever see her at that age? 01:00:09.621 --> 01:00:09.982 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 01:00:10.982 --> 01:00:34.030 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've seen teenage gene a couple of different ways In the silver age, she didn't really have a personality, but then Bendis actually in like 2012 2013 He had the original five X men from when they were like teenagers come forward in time and they

stuck around for like a decade and She got a lot more characterization in that 01:00:34.830 --> 01:00:49.173 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the idea of Jean Gray that is like young and alone and hurting and lashing out and not really behaving ethically, but at the end of the day, you kind of can't blame her because of her circumstances. 01:00:49.913 --> 01:00:58.455 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that is an interesting take on the character that everyone just seems to think is like the boring mom of the group. 01:00:59.358 --> 01:01:12.990 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a flawed characterization that's not completely comic accurate is still better than everyone thinking she's like the most vanilla character and she's the power's were scary as hell in this movie. 01:01:13.130 --> 01:01:24.800 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they don't want to do this showing that how she like jumps into people and then jumps out is very unsettling just the movements the movements that they all do. 01:01:24.820 --> 01:01:26.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I am very familiar with 01:01:27.886 --> 01:01:35.908 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very familiar with Jean Grey, and I heard the rumors like everyone else that she was gonna be the big villain of the movie. 01:01:35.948 --> 01:01:36.488 [SPEAKER_03]: I did not. 01:01:37.568 --> 01:01:45.690 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't sure or confident for a minute that it was actually her because no one uses telepathy like that. 01:01:45.750 --> 01:01:51.511 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can take over people, but the way she did it was like kind of insidious and scary. 01:01:51.651 --> 01:01:55.632 [SPEAKER_02]: And she was never, oh, she walks out one guy right in front of a car. 01:01:55.652 --> 01:01:56.972 [SPEAKER_02]: It's totally fucked up. 01:01:57.672 --> 01:02:06.876 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like normally when people depict Jean Gray, she's like reading someone's mind and then it's like, oh, was that on ethical of me? 01:02:06.896 --> 01:02:12.678 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't ask for permission or she's like levitating a pen and they're like, hey, look, she can float stuff. 01:02:13.238 --> 01:02:18.840 [SPEAKER_02]: This was like an unhinged Jean and I kind of liked it. 01:02:19.665 --> 01:02:43.504 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think, you know, the question can be raised is did she go too far to where she's like a redeemable villain and you know, man, when she walked out one guy in front of the car, I was like, oh gosh, Frank, she's got to be put down, get her that's the pot calling the kettle black because 01:02:44.805 --> 01:02:48.031 [SPEAKER_02]: who the hell would think the Punisher is a redeemable character. 01:02:48.051 --> 01:02:52.899 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want to say it's the same thing because I'm sure the guy should know. 01:02:52.919 --> 01:02:55.404 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm probably that guy. 01:02:55.424 --> 01:02:56.766 [SPEAKER_03]: He probably, he's probably fine. 01:02:56.786 --> 01:02:58.128 [SPEAKER_03]: He's probably just got broken legs. 01:02:59.322

--> 01:03:01.584 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm saying he was probably like a fine individual. 01:03:01.644 --> 01:03:07.588 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, that they're for sure are victims of gene gray in MCU. 01:03:07.608 --> 01:03:09.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's probably a support group. 01:03:09.970 --> 01:03:19.097 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's going to be some people when they introduce mutants who are like, yeah, I fucking hate those guys because gene gray put me in a wheelchair. 01:03:19.817 --> 01:03:20.937 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do anything for. 01:03:20.997 --> 01:03:23.158 [SPEAKER_03]: I was in the wrong place. 01:03:23.338 --> 01:03:34.902 [SPEAKER_03]: You are probably right and another long-term consequence and before I say this, I'm just going to add that I could watch the Punisher argue with somebody about if it's right to kill someone. 01:03:35.662 --> 01:03:43.645 [SPEAKER_03]: If John Barthol just wanted to show up in every single Marvel project and have an argument with the man character about that, I would probably watch it. 01:03:44.505 --> 01:03:45.665 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be telling you something red. 01:03:47.886 --> 01:03:52.672 [SPEAKER_03]: Another ramification is Peter Parker has built a mutant suppressor. 01:03:53.633 --> 01:03:57.618 [SPEAKER_03]: Like unknowingly, he's like the worst guy for mutants. 01:03:58.460 --> 01:04:00.702 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm sure that will come up. 01:04:01.657 --> 01:04:11.049 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't love that, and I, I, I almost afraid this sets it up to cleanly to be like, we'll see mutants are dangerous. 01:04:11.449 --> 01:04:14.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man created the suppressor and he's the good guy. 01:04:15.274 --> 01:04:18.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, anti-buting hysteria is like a good thing. 01:04:19.099 --> 01:04:19.519 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope, 01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:27.968 [SPEAKER_02]: And because it's the guy who did Thunderbolts that's directing X-Men, I'm like kind of hopeful that they know how to handle it well. 01:04:28.008 --> 01:04:33.834 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure the X-Men project is going to treat Newton's very differently than a Spider-Man project would. 01:04:34.635 --> 01:04:39.259 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do hope they are intentional with the messaging. 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:40.841 [SPEAKER_02]: when they use them. 01:04:41.341 --> 01:04:45.845 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just talking to someone the other day about, you know, X man and Spider-Man. 01:04:45.885 --> 01:04:48.868 [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, are you excited to see them come into the MCU? 01:04:49.228 --> 01:04:51.089 [SPEAKER_02]: And he even mentioned Jean Grey in this movie. 01:04:51.109 --> 01:04:59.557 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, I just don't want to see them fuck it up because I really don't have a lot of confidence that Kevin Vigy is like, 01:05:00.417 --> 01:05:05.599 [SPEAKER_02]: planning a whole lot, we're, you know, talking to actual writers or creators. 01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:12.901 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, it's been a lot of, let's get to set and film something and see what we get kind of movies lately. 01:05:13.721 --> 01:05:18.562 [SPEAKER_02]: And kind of it's to Tom Holland for saying we're not going to do that on this one. 01:05:19.122 --> 01:05:21.223 [SPEAKER_02]: He kind of, he kind of put the, 01:05:22.163 --> 01:05:27.731 [SPEAKER_02]: the Marvel people to task and said, I just got off the set of the Odyssey with Christopher Nolan. 01:05:28.052 --> 01:05:29.534 [SPEAKER_02]: This is how you make a real movie. 01:05:29.674 --> 01:05:32.238 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to know why we're making it before we start filming. 01:05:33.015 --> 01:05:52.997 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, hopefully it like makes them start doing that more in the future and and I was going to say I feel like maybe they have had some good ones recently like I really like the Thunderbolts and I really liked this one and I don't fully remember what was like in between those movies. 01:05:54.927 --> 01:05:56.388 [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't know, maybe it wasn't too bad. 01:05:56.608 --> 01:05:58.570 [SPEAKER_03]: What, what has come out since then? 01:05:58.590 --> 01:06:00.411 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, probably like a meal. 01:06:00.431 --> 01:06:01.312 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's not plus so. 01:06:01.332 --> 01:06:02.412 [SPEAKER_02]: So, it's probably. 01:06:02.833 --> 01:06:06.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Wonder man, I didn't watch Wonder man sorry for the man who's good. 01:06:06.636 --> 01:06:08.997 [SPEAKER_03]: I just got canceled season two. 01:06:09.277 --> 01:06:12.100 [SPEAKER_03]: I would try didn't really know about season one. 01:06:13.323 --> 01:06:16.387 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so who knows, maybe we're back on the upswing. 01:06:16.568 --> 01:06:17.609 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fantastic for it. 01:06:17.629 --> 01:06:20.253 [SPEAKER_03]: That was okay, you know, this fine. 01:06:20.273 --> 01:06:28.144 [SPEAKER_02]: I would have liked it to have been better for the fantastic for like, they just keep doing this thing where, 01:06:29.462 --> 01:06:38.813 [SPEAKER_02]: You got to hit with your prime teams and characters, like you cannot make bad spider-man movies and bad fantastic four movies. 01:06:39.173 --> 01:06:44.379 [SPEAKER_02]: That should be punishable by death if your Marvel Studios and these are billion dollar projects. 01:06:45.055 --> 01:06:45.295 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:06:46.176 --> 01:06:52.322 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad that maybe some lesson was learned from no way home or far from home. 01:06:52.742 --> 01:06:53.463 [SPEAKER_03]: The last one. 01:06:54.044 --> 01:06:57.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Always done. 01:06:57.227 --> 01:06:58.548 [SPEAKER_03]: Name your movies better. 01:06:59.128 --> 01:07:00.390 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so frustrating. 01:07:00.870 --> 01:07:02.011 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the last one. 01:07:02.572 --> 01:07:06.495 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I didn't really think that that one was very good. 01:07:06.776 --> 01:07:09.798 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just

all like fan service. 01:07:10.619 --> 01:07:11.080 [SPEAKER_03]: And this. 01:07:11.100 --> 01:07:16.525 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really fun for the way that like a ride at Disney World is fun. 01:07:16.705 --> 01:07:19.348 [SPEAKER_02]: Like sitting in the theater, you're like cheesing at it. 01:07:19.928 --> 01:07:23.792 [SPEAKER_02]: This brand new day was different in the fact that it was actually a movie. 01:07:24.032 --> 01:07:31.800 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it had emotional stakes and like complete arcs and I would rewatch it again. 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:38.942 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, definitely out of rewatch it again and and it's not like it wasn't without fan service. 01:07:39.022 --> 01:07:54.767 [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said they've they've got the parts where, you know, he he fights his different villains and, you know, it's like, oh, I've seen that cover a million times and there's tombstone and, you know, like that's fun. 01:07:54.787 --> 01:07:57.028 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to make the entire movie out of it. 01:07:57.068 --> 01:08:00.909 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't really even need to like draw that much attention to it. 01:08:01.549 --> 01:08:13.634 [SPEAKER_03]: Just make it part of the movie, you know, so with that being said, here's a couple of fun Easter eggs that I noticed, you know, outside of like the comic book covers. 01:08:13.714 --> 01:08:14.655 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I got two of them. 01:08:15.675 --> 01:08:17.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me if you noticed these also. 01:08:18.076 --> 01:08:27.541 [SPEAKER_03]: At one point, he jumps up on the cage and it looks like when he's in the wrestling ring with the guy and spider-man one. 01:08:27.561 --> 01:08:29.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that I caught that. 01:08:30.722 --> 01:08:32.964 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, these are pretty stupid. 01:08:33.224 --> 01:08:34.705 [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the other ones, Zach here. 01:08:34.725 --> 01:08:36.546 [SPEAKER_03]: I bet you, I bet you got this one. 01:08:37.046 --> 01:08:48.673 [SPEAKER_03]: When he's in the hospital bed and his outfit is draped over the hospital bed is exactly like in the trash can when he spider-man no more egg. 01:08:49.694 --> 01:08:52.616 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I had a different thought when he was in the hospital. 01:08:53.677 --> 01:08:55.358 [SPEAKER_02]: It made me think of the, uh, 01:08:56.295 --> 01:09:24.044 [SPEAKER_03]: Mary Jane and black cat comic where he's like comatose and oh yeah adventure romp to save yeah well gosh that actually just reminded me also that spider-man gets shot by the Punisher in this one and my accident well isn't that what happened that happened in our comic run this was like perfect I I will be honest with you I thought he might die 01:09:25.083 --> 01:09:30.828 [SPEAKER_03]: And I and I said I said to Caitlin when he got shot and it was like unknown. 01:09:31.088 --> 01:09:35.872 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this is how he died in the comic book around the Zack and I were reading. 01:09:35.912 --> 01:09:37.153 [SPEAKER_03]: He could shop by the Punisher. 01:09:38.054 --> 01:09:40.576 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, dude, I, I, I, I. 01:09:41.612 --> 01:10:02.537 [SPEAKER_03]: think it's just a good movie you know if you don't know what's going to happen then that's that's a good thing because so often something happens or like well they're obviously going to live they're obviously you know so yeah but how to ask holes on a podcast spoil it for you it's great we said spoilers that's true i think that's that's fair you know hopefully 01:10:04.473 --> 01:10:06.175 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna get some angry comments. 01:10:06.415 --> 01:10:13.702 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure if you listen to a Spider-Man podcast, you have better have seen the Spider-Man movie by the time this podcast comes out. 01:10:14.102 --> 01:10:23.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and fair or not, anymore, if you don't see a Marvel movie with an opening weekend, it's gonna get spoiled on social media for you. 01:10:24.011 --> 01:10:27.935 [SPEAKER_03]: That's why we like really wanted to see it that Sunday. 01:10:28.796 --> 01:10:39.006 [SPEAKER_03]: Because even though we had just driven back from Tennessee, it's like, well, if we have to wait till Monday and we can't go until next weekend, it's going to be spoiled by the time we see it. 01:10:39.286 --> 01:10:39.546 [SPEAKER_03]: So, 01:10:40.487 --> 01:10:46.552 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm glad this is our dish for that because like I said, I had such low expectations for this one. 01:10:47.113 --> 01:10:49.455 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't really thinking about when it came out. 01:10:49.675 --> 01:10:55.319 [SPEAKER_02]: I needed you to remind me or else I would have gotten it spoiled and like seen it late. 01:10:55.820 --> 01:11:00.524 [SPEAKER_03]: That should really be a testament to, I don't know, the lack of 01:11:01.625 --> 01:11:09.050 [SPEAKER_03]: excitement for some of these movies that Zach, the biggest Spider-Man fan. 01:11:10.250 --> 01:11:13.612 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know you're an X-Men guy, but, you know, co-hosts. 01:11:13.672 --> 01:11:14.873 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what's up with that now? 01:11:15.233 --> 01:11:21.517 [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose that Spider-Man podcast wasn't excited for the Spider-Man movie and neither was I really. 01:11:21.737 --> 01:11:23.738 [SPEAKER_03]: I did not think it was going to be this good either. 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:27.801 [SPEAKER_03]: My expectations might not have been as low, but I didn't think I'd be like raving about it. 01:11:28.361 --> 01:11:29.442 [SPEAKER_02]: It was so good. 01:11:29.702 --> 01:11:36.025 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give the rest of the MCU a little bit of a break on criticism, you know what? 01:11:36.405 --> 01:11:38.927 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Robert Downey Jr. will be a fine doctor soon. 01:11:39.567 --> 01:11:40.588 [SPEAKER_02]: They practically have it all. 01:11:40.608 --> 01:11:42.809 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the only one that could play the role. 01:11:43.869 --> 01:11:44.650 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've been told. 01:11:45.930 --> 01:11:47.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay, five out of five way. 01:11:47.871 --> 01:11:49.492 [SPEAKER_03]: I think for sure. 01:11:49.512 --> 01:11:50.413 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 01:11:50.813 --> 01:11:52.134 [SPEAKER_02]: And had Jean to Wolf. 01:11:53.014 --> 01:11:55.556 [SPEAKER_02]: First Spider man movie to have. 01:11:56.056 --> 01:11:58.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, our favorite cricket detective. 01:11:58.538 --> 01:11:59.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh. 01:11:59.278 --> 01:11:59.779 [SPEAKER_03]: Kingpin. 01:12:00.059 --> 01:12:04.281 [SPEAKER_03]: When he said to Wolf, trust me, I was watching her the whole movie. 01:12:04.581 --> 01:12:05.062 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, 01:12:05.862 --> 01:12:07.063 [SPEAKER_03]: What's she up to? 01:12:07.183 --> 01:12:10.065 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I told Mandy afterwards. 01:12:10.225 --> 01:12:18.389 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, Jandowulf ends up working for King Pen after you know, she, she ends up, and I was like, but she's still kind of good. 01:12:18.689 --> 01:12:20.010 [SPEAKER_03]: We still liked Jandowulf. 01:12:20.410 --> 01:12:23.392 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably lesser of two evils type of thing, you know. 01:12:23.432 --> 01:12:24.813 [SPEAKER_02]: We were sad when she died. 01:12:25.453 --> 01:12:25.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:26.374 --> 01:12:34.385 [SPEAKER_03]: And, and I haven't really looked this up, but I think I heard something that makes me think does she not usually end up being crooked? 01:12:34.725 --> 01:12:36.027 [SPEAKER_03]: Is she usually good? 01:12:36.487 --> 01:12:38.089 [SPEAKER_03]: No, she's good in the main universe. 01:12:38.390 --> 01:12:39.251 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I thought. 01:12:39.311 --> 01:12:40.993 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just the ultimate universe, they. 01:12:41.534 --> 01:12:41.954 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:12:42.715 --> 01:12:42.955 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:12:42.975 --> 01:12:49.076 [SPEAKER_02]: But we are specifically trained to be distrustful of her as we have all cops. 01:12:50.617 --> 01:12:50.857 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 01:12:52.117 --> 01:12:52.437 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:12:52.637 --> 01:12:53.537 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we have anything else? 01:12:54.258 --> 01:12:54.978 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so. 01:12:55.778 --> 01:12:56.058 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 01:12:56.158 --> 01:12:58.639 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all for listening and leaving a review or a comment. 01:12:58.659 --> 01:13:04.880 [SPEAKER_03]: You can find us the first read ultimate spider-man podcast on Spotify or Apple Music or anywhere else people listen to podcasts. 01:13:05.140 --> 01:13:08.061 [SPEAKER_03]: You can also come chat with us on Instagram at first 01:13:09.481 --> 01:13:15.818 [SPEAKER_03]: Send us an email at firstreadspideyagema.com or find us on YouTube, the first read ultimate spider-man podcast. 01:13:16.360 --> 01:13:17.362 [SPEAKER_03]: See you next time, Zach. 01:13:17.964 --> 01:13:18.285 [SPEAKER_03]: See ya.