Full Transcript for Dream Fits for NFL Draft Prospects (Ep. 478)

a rookie. So Tags, why don't you start us off that way. We're going to cover probably twenty twenty five players and we'll all get to talk about the guys we want to talk about, yeah, for sure, and we're gonna try and hit on the guys that are gonna fantasy relevant for you guys. So we're gonna start with Alabama wide receiver Jerry Judy. And the idea of this exercise is too like for those of you who haven't watched college football, you're just looking for us for information and to understand what type of players these guys are. So we're gonna give you like NFL style comparisons. It doesn't mean they're going to become that player, but it gives you an idea as to you know, if you're talking about Calvin Johnson, then you're talking about John Ross. They're clearly different players, even if they both ran an extremely fast forty time. So Alabama wide receiver Jerry Judy, he's a guy that reminds me a lot of like a Stefan Diggs Antonio Brown type wide receiver. Guys that can get separation at any level of the field. So when you how does that translate to fantasy football in year one? I personally think that I don't know if he lasts passed the Jets at eleven. The Jets have been building their offensive line through the offseason, so I would anticipate them after losing Robbie Anderson, they need to get a wide receiver. They did sign Breshad Peram into a one year deal, but I would think Jerry Judy, if he's on the board there at eleven, they should be pulling the trigger to get themselves a long time number one for Sam Darnold. And if he does wind up there, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Jerry Judy will finish as a time thirty six wide receiver in year one and can be drafted as a wide receiver three, because I do believe he would get a hundred plus targets in year one. What do you guys thinks about that? So yeates, I like Jerry Judy a lot, and it's funny. I wasn't going to compare him to Diggs. I was going to compare it to Adam Theland Diggs teammate. You know, Adam Theland's phenomenal. But I like Judy over lamb and I like him over rugs. But I don't know if the Jets are the best landing spot. Do you think it is? I mean, I'm a huge Jerry Judy fan as well. Obviously I have him as my number one wide receiver in this class, so I you know, we're talking about him as an elite route runner. He creates separation at all levels of the field, So you know, Stefan Diggs is a good comparison there. Of course, Adam Land does the kind of kind of the same thing. He wins in a little bit of a different fashion. But when we're talking about the Jets as a landing spot, I think that's the realistic scenario where we could be talking about Jerry Judy in New York next year. So I don't think it's necessarily the best, And like the dream fit, I think any team from you know, Las Vegas, at all of Las Vegas would make a ton of sense. I mean a dream fit would just be hey, Tampa Bay, go all in at fourteen and get Chris Goblin, Jerry Judy, and Mike Evans. You know, that wouldn't necessarily lead to the most fantasy value, but that would just be super fun to watch. So I don't hate the selection of the New York Jets. I think it's the most realistic, but you know, I think he would obviously return fantasy value, right away, which is something that we don't necessarily talk about a ton when we're talking about rookie wide receivers. Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah. Two, do you want to bring up next? Yeah? So I'll go with Jonathan Taylor, running back out of Wisconsin five two hundred and twenty six pounds, and this guy is just a beast. He has carried the ball over nine hundred times in college and has been someone who has just been steadily rising. He was someone who you know, was kind of always in that top tier, but after the Combine when he ran a four point three nine forty yard dash at two hundred and twenty six pounds, that this was like, okay, validating what we saw on tape that he has elite breakaway speed, and so looking at potential landing spots for him, I think the real listic one. And you know hear me out on this one, Guys that I don't know if Derrick Henry is necessarily the long term answer there in Tennessee. I just don't see them resigning him, even though they did apply the franchise tag, I just don't see them resigning him to a super long deal. So I agree with that logic. Yeah, yeah, if Tennessee can come in and you know their offense is predicated upon a guy who can carry the rock twenty to twenty five, potentially even thirty times a game, isn't necessarily a huge factor in the receiving game. You're not going to miss a beat with that offense. If you go from Derreck Henry to Jonathan Taylor tags hear me out, Okay, Derrick Henry. I agree, I think he's going to be gone. But who's more likely to be the starting running back for their team in twenty twenty one, Derrick Henry or mark Ingram And which running backs? Which system would you rather have your running back? And for me, it's Baltimore, And I think that market Ingram's more likely to be gone. I'd love to see him end up in Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore wouldn't be a bad spot, especially with Gus Edwards not being on the team anymore. They kind of use that three back system. But they also invested in Justice Hill last year, so I don't I don't know how much they're gonna value it, but I would anticipate them. That's a team that you probably should watch it at twenty eight if the Dolphins don't take him at twenty six. Jonathan Taylor, no matter where he goes, he's gonna have a workhorse gig. And he's a guy that reminds me a lot of Nick Chubb, you know, as he's particularly strong on first and second down. Can he do something in the passing game? Sure, I think Chubb might be a little bit better. Chubb may break a little bit a few more tackles than Jonathan Taylor, but Taylor has more top end speed, So it's it's a give and take thing here. He's proven the ability to stand up to a big, workhorse load, and whoever drafts him is probably going to take him with

the intention of using him a lot in the in the beginning, because he's known as someone that maybe like a one contract player because he's had a ton nine hundred and twenty six carries during his time at Wisconsin and that's over just three years. This guy's been beaten, used and abused. So whoever drafts him is going to be using him right now. So the Ravens are a team, you know, the Titans also, those are teams that make a lot of sense for him. So let's say that Jonathan Taylor ends up with the Titans. Okay, he's behind Derrick Henry. Where we draft him? Is he like an eleventh round pick? Kates, It's all predicated upon if Derrick Henry is actually there. If he's not, I would be fine taking Jonathan Taylor in the fourth round of redraft leagues. If Derrick Henry is still there and it looks to be you know, looks like he's gonna be suiting up and playing, then I think, yeah, he's kind of that may alternate in and maybe the guy that he takes over the you know, next year, if Derrick Henry plays on the franchise tag. So yeah, it's hard to say definitively, but I think if Derrick Henry is gone, I'm I mean maybe even the third round. Is that too rich for you guys? No, I was going to say the end of the second round, I'd probably take him. If Derek Henry, I think I'd probably take him in the second in that offense, Yeah, here's the question though. It could be like a Melvin Gordon type situation where he Derrick Henry says he's going to hold out and let's say they draft Jonathan Taylor and saying we have a long term solution. You know, Derek, if you show up great, If you don't, then we're gonna have to move forward with Taylor. And regardless, even if it's a one year thing and they have Taylor, they're kind of like waiting in the wings if there's an injury or anything like that. It doesn't handicap them if Derrick Henry were to go down with an injury. But it's almost like he's gonna say I'm gonna hold out and then he comes back to the team in week you know, six, week seven, kind of like a Melvin Gordon situation, and then it would completely destroy You're Jonathan Taylor's second round pick, so it's gonna be difficult to select someone like him in the second or third round, just knowing that Derrick Henry can return to the team at any point. So it's an interesting situation and one I'm guessing we're gonna be talking about through the throughout the offseason. But I don't even know if he makes it down to Tennessee at number twenty nine tags. Let's say he goes to Tampa Bay, which I think is actually the best potential landing spot for this season, because obviously, if he's behind mark Ingram or splitting touches with mark Ingram or behind Derrick Henry, he's not going to be as useful in twenty twenty. But if he goes to Tampa Bay with Bruce Arians all those wide receivers, he's going to be in the red zone a lot. Would you take him in the back end of the first round? No, I wouldn't do that. It's Tom Brady's offense. I don't know how Jonathan Taylor would

fit with Tom Brady, to be honest with you, because he's a guy that wants to utilize and I think Bruce Arians knows this is that he needs to utilize that wheel, that wheel route for running backs, get some screens involved in there. And Jonathan Taylor, that's not really his game. He's like a pound it like he's you're gonna run it down their throat and that's what you're gonna do. I think there are other running backs in this draft that probably better suit Tampa Bay so and honestly, they're not going to take him at number fourteen overall, and then he's not gonna last until they're, you know, fourteenth or thirteenth pick in the second round, so I can't see him going there. The teams that I would say in the first round that he potentially could go to, I mean, I don't think he belongs in the Chiefs. I don't think that would be the best idea because they they use their running back slot in the passing game as well. But I think we talked about those teams, you know, the Dolphins, the Ravens, the Titans, those are the teams i'd watch. All right, let's stick with the running back position. We're going with DeAndre Swift running back out of Georgia's who I'm bringing me up? Do you like him Yates? First of all, better than Taylor on a neutral team. They are literally like almost tied in my rankings, and they're you know, Jonathan Taylor's one and DeAndre Swift is two. For the longest time, it was Swift at one and Taylor at two. But after the combine and fact dring in a weight adjusted spark, which is what I do for my combine and injury ratings, Jonathan Taylor's moved up just a little bit there. So yeah, but they're essentially neck and neck for me. Tags. What do you think man, what kind of team would Swift be better on than Taylor? On? What NFL player is Swift more like? Oh, I think Swift would be fantastic for the Chiefs. He's a team that fits that. I mean, if they're willing to spend some equity on him, if they can, if they want to swipe him at the end of the second round, he might be there. I don't see them spending it. You think there's a chance he'd be there at the end of the second I think they'd have to trade up into the early mid second. I think there's a possibility. And the reason I say that there's a possibility not because there's like talent or anything like that, but because NFL teams are starting to learn to devalue the running back position a little bit. And I know that the draft is a little bit different because you're getting a guy that's fresh that you're going to use up for that first contract. He's cheap. But if you don't select him in the first round, then you almost you don't get that option. And there's not a lot of whole there's not a whole lot of jobs available in the NFL for workhorse running backs and DeAndre Swift is a guy that reminds me of like a Dalvin Cook type running back, a guy that can get done on all three downs. He may not be excellently extremely elite at any one thing, but he's a very, very solid all around running back. And I believe that the one thing that coaches do like is that he doesn't balance runs to the outside for no reason, like a lot of running backs do that as they come into the league and then they learn that they're not fast enough to do it. He actually looks to cut back. I think Andy Reid would love him as a running back. He needs a long term answer at the running back position because I think Damian Williams they learned that he just can't hold up to that workload over a full season. So I think the Chiefs are interesting. Would they take him at the end of the first round. Maybe. I think there's some other needs on that team, but I think they go Glad nay Man. I think they go cornerback there. That's well, I mean, that's a very It's a team that doesn't have a whole lot of holes, so you can kind of say we're playing to win now and we get running back on a cheap contract. It is what it is. But I mean, Damian Williams really should have won the Super Bowl MVP though, So it's not like they are desperate for a running back. It's just more about him staying healthy. And I think Andy Reid we heard multiple times last year that he was frustrated with Damian Williams not able to stay on the field. It has nothing to do when he's on the field, he's perfectly fine. We've seen him perform, you know, game game out when he's given the touches. Obviously McCoy's gone. They didn't really trust Thompson at all in that offense. That tells me that he's not really the guy. I don't think that he's the guy that they thought he was going to be. But they again, they need a long term solution for three down back and this is ideal from a fantasy standpoint. Now, yeah, it's where would you pick. So let's pretend that he goes the Chiefs at the end of the first round and we know they're going to use him. Well do we know that? Because Damian Williams is still there, Like it's gonna be a split back field if if they have a rookie running back. If you take DeAndre Swift at the back of the first round, you're using him like he's your guy. If memory starchs correctly, they've extended Damien Williams. They did. It was a very cheap contract. Though it wasn't. But I was just about to say it was a very cheap contract. So it's not like they're saying, like, Damian Williams is our guy moving forward. You know, with DeAndre Swift, if they're taking him at the back of the first round, and the type of talent that DeAndre Swift is, you're using him. So in a redraft league, Man, give me the middle of the second round, early second round. I'm fine with that. That offense and DeAndre Swift's talent and what he can do from the receiving game, right, this is the difference between him and Jonathan Taylor. That Jonathan Taylor is not a bad receiver. There's this narrative out there that he just can't catch the ball. It's not it. It's just that he's not like overly proficient in it. So, but DeAndre Swift sure, like Derrick Henry, right, like Derrick Henry can catch the ball. But it's

not how you're going to use him. He's that's not his calling card. DeAndre Swift is like DeAndre Swift is an excellent route runner out of the backfield, has great natural hands, and has the ability elusiveness in the open field. I think Kansas City and Tampa Bay are two. Like we talked about Bruce Arians using David Johnson and you know how much he was used. Like, Tampa Bay is a perfect spot too, But as far as Kansas City with that offense, Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Kill, Mikole Hardban, Travis kelsey Man middle of the second round, early second round, I'm for that. Rookie running backs are so tough because you just never know, like you're either way under drafting these guys or you know it's a major bust. Right Remember how excited people were about Miles Sanders and then he was cutting a lot of leagues. Yep, Yeah, well, I mean he was and that was And that's why I think people are overvaluing him a little bit because I don't think they realized that Doug Peterson, this is what he does with offenses. He does not use one running back, and I know that he did down the stretch and I think it came down to he needed a wide receiver and Miles Sanders was able to play that receiver role. All the running backs were hurt. I think it was a unique situation and I'm interested to see what they do in that backfield because they do have Boston Scott, they have Miles Sanders. Are they going to bring in another running back in the draft because it is a class that you should be able to get a decent running back later, or maybe they just go out and get DeVonta Freeman or something. He's still out there. Yeah, it's possible. It's really possible. Let's move along. Tags. Who are you going with? Probably Ceedee Lamb. I'll stick with running backs. I'm gonna go Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I mean, this is my guy, bringing him up over Dobbins. Huh. This Hilaire belongs on the Chiefs. I mean, forget this DeAndre Swift on the Chiefs thing. That's not happening. It's Hilaire in the third round and it is gonna be amazing. I thought Edwards Hilaire could go to the Falcons. I thought that that was a perfect landing spot. And it's not to say that it's can't happen. Todd Gurley signed a one year deal, But at the same time, I'm just shocked to see the Falcons say we're not willing to pay salary to DeVonta Freeman. I thought it was them saying, we just don't want to carry a big salary at the running back position. We don't need to. And then they let him go, and then they grab another guy that's deal, that's dealt with injuries the last couple of years, and then Todd Gurley, and I mean, Gurley is going to be fantastic if he's on the field, he's gonna be fantastic in that offense. They use their running backs a lot in the passing game, but in terms of like Clyde Edwards Hilaire and what he brings. The reason I like him so much and why I've I've teeter tottered with him and Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift is because I believe he's a better fit for today's NFL. You want your running back

to be able to catch passes out of the back. I truly believe that Clyde Edwards Hilaire is the type of running back then catch eighty balls out of the backfield. You know, Doug Martin, Ray Rice. That's the comparison I have for him, that he's that mighty mouse of a player. He's extremely elusive. So many people talk about he didn't break enough tackles at LSU. When you have a player who's as elusive as Edwards Hilaire is, he doesn't need to break tackles and he's just when I watch him, I can't help but say he is a difference maker. He will create yards that other guys will not, So I like him an awful lot. My dream scenario was him going to the Falcons. Obviously girly there, you know, kind of dumbs down my interest. But if he goes to the Bucks, if he goes to the Chiefs, I'm going to be all over him because he is more talented than Ronald Jones. If he goes to the Chiefs, he is more talented than Damian Williams. I don't think he doesn't quite fit the mold of what Andy Reid typically does. I think another running back we could talk, Zach Moss, is a guy. Zach Moss out of Utah reminds me so much a Kareem Hunt, and I think he's being undervalued in this draft class. Oh, I'm not very high in Zach Moss. Yeates, you break the tie. Where do you stand on moss Man? I've got him like my RV eight. Oh you don't want to hear my rating on Zach Moss. It's way down there. Yeah, baby, let's go eat it. Tag. So it's because for Zack Moss, it's not a talent thing. For me, I think he has the talent and he has the intangibles. It's for because of top end athleticism in injury concerns, Like Zach Moss is a bruiser and he plays like he's got you know, like it's his last down, which is so like Chris Carson. Chris Carson's always going to get hurt because that's how he runs. It's a really good comparison as far as like mentality, right, so with Zach Moss, but he's injured all the time, and so that's super concerning for me. I have him all the way down at eighteen RB eighteen. I am. I am very very hesitant and on guys that have lengthy injury histories in college, I think for me it's just gonna be Hey, I'm hands off with these guys from a dynasty perspective. You know, it's like, okay, other people can mess around with that. I'm I'm good. You know, I'll go with another player who has like a similar talent level but yet can be on the field. All right, So let's say that Edwards Hilaire goes to the Dolphins, you know, a team that doesn't have a clear cut running back. Jordan Howard says, excuse me, Jordan Howard's not He's not He's not your top time with no offensive line, what's he gonna get like two yards for carry? He was smart, though, he was smart. He signed at the beginning of free agency, and I think a lot of players are gonna start to realize that these free agent deals, like, if you don't get out in front of it, you're gonna sit out there until after the draft, especially if you're someone like Jordan Howard, who's yes, yeah, I think that was a good call. Well, here's the thing. Brett Coleman posted this on Twitter yesterday. Okay, I love this, So you guys know, Joe Burrow said Hilaire was the best player he's ever played with, and he's played with Chase Young, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, Michael Thomas, Zeke Terry McLaurin, Denzel Ward, Marshawn Lattimore, Devin White, Jamar Chase. Yeah, I mean that's that's saying something. And he said that he's easily the best athlete on the team, no question. And I know his forty time at four six, it wasn't like exciting to a lot of people. But he's he's a He's a guy that plays in a box. He could he could play in a phone booth and do well, make guys miss. I love him as a player, I really do, and I'm standing by that and I've gone through it and I'm like, yeah, he is faller in that, but when you watch him, so damn good if he or RB one, I've gone back and forth and landing spot's going to determine you're crazy. No, I'm serious. Like if he were to land with a job that, I feel like the offense fits him and like in that like the Falcons, if he would have landed there and Gurley wasn't there, yes, I would have put him at R one over someone like Jonathan Taylor, who was maybe tied into Miami or something like that. But again, landing spot. I value landing spot almost more than I do talent when it comes to the transitioning to the NFL, because opportunity is everything for these running backs, and uh, we just gotta see who's gonna get the most opportunity. And Edwards Hilaire is a guy that could be a bit more consistent because of what he does offer in the passing game. If he was on the Dolphins, Yates had take him in the fourth, fifth round, what about you, Redraft, Yeah, I think so. I think it just depends on how because I don't think Jordan Howard's gonna go away as far as like you know, you know, they didn't bring him in just to be, you know, just to be a benchwarmer. So I think that it limits Clyde Edwards Hilaire's overall upside, but he could be a perfect compliment to Jordan with his pass catching ability. Tags was alluding to it, like Clyde Edwards Laire might have some of the best hands in this class. So yeah, for him to be a compliment there to Jordan Howard, I think it limits his overall fantasy upside, but fifth, maybe fifth round, sixth round. That's probably where I'd pull the trigger. And what about the real quick? What about the Bucks? If he goes to the Bucks? Because that when I talked about Tom Brady and the fact that what he uses in their wheel routes and looking to use his running backs a whole lot in the passing game. My word, he'd be a perfect fit. Yeah. And Ronald Jones, they don't know if he's the guy, so it's like, why not add a guy that It's like, say, hey, we know this guy's talented, so it's like, if we have a good one two punch, great, Well depends on where they draft Lair, Like, if they're drafting him in the second round, then getty up. If they're drafting the third or fourth round, then it's like, is he gonna play over Jones? I'll take him in the

eighth I'll take a chance. Yeah. Yeah. My only concern there would be Bruce Arians really really values the pass protection. And that's been the whole thing with Ronald Jones is that he's been a liability. And I'm not necessarily to the point of calling Clyde Edwards Hilaire and a liability and pass protection. But I don't think it's his overall strength because at LS what they were saying like, hey, go get out of the backfield, like you're so good in the in the receiving game, just get out of the backfield. And at his size, he's not gonna stop a you know, blitzing mic linebacker. So I think that would be the only concern that I would have with him in Tampa Bay. But otherwise I think, yeah, he'd be a perfect fit as that receiving option. All right, YEA two are going with next? Yeah, So I'll actually go with Henry Ruggs here, a wide receiver out of Alabama. And as far as like a play style comp it's Tybreek kill. Oh man, you're in this campau. So I am a big fan of Henry Ruggs because of what he brings to the table with his speed. Obviously a four two seven forty at the combine, this is a guy who has blazing speed and can take a slant to the house, can be a deep threat, just get open at all levels of the field. And so but I think what people are kind of scared off of and tags and I have talked about this on the pod before, is that I think people have a John Ross syndrome here, where John Ross was completely just a speed guy. But Henry Ruggs is more than that. He brings the toughness to the table. He's tough as nails and yet brings some contested catchability. Is a good route runner. I think he's just someone who separates himself from guys like John Ross and moves into the category in camp of someone like Tyreek Hill. And we've seen the effect that Tyreek Hill has on the NFL and for NFL teams, and so I look at like dream fits for Henry Ruggs. San Francisco at thirteen would make a ton of sense. That offense is built upon the run and then also the short passing game, and we saw that with Deebo Samuel, right, it's primarily slants. It's just like, hey, Deebo Samuel, run a slant. We're gonna get the ball in your hand, you break a tackle and take it. Henry Ruggs has that ability to be able to run a really really nice slant route, position himself, gain leverage, move back in towards the middle of the field, and take that slant and create after the catch. So when you're pairing him with an innovative offensive coordinator like Kyle Shanahan and head coach like Kyle Shanahan, that I think that would be a dream fit. Tags. I can't go the Tyreek Hill route because I think that Tyreek Hill's speed is just on another level. I legitimately think he's one of the fastest people human beings in the world. I don't think Ruggs is quite that well, not just that he is fast. He has the on demand and speed, So I'll say that Ruggs has that. He was like the number three wide out at Alabama, Man, Yet he doesn't run routes with a volatility or intensity that that Hill does.

And that's that's the difference for me, is that Hill not only is he a speed demon, but he cuts on a dime like he's a you know, when I was going through my top route runners, some people said I left him out of my top five, And is that a mistake. Maybe, But there's there's guys that are like teetering on that conversation, and Hill's there, Rugs is not. Ruggs isn't even close to that conversation from me. Obviously, Jerry Judy was the best route runner on that team. But I think it's somewhere in between a Tyreek Hill and a Ted Ginn. And Ted Ginn was someone that was drafted extremely high, you know, issue he fast used on special teams and all that. I think there's somewhere in between there, and that would be fine. I'm worried he's like Paris Campbell man like Paris Campbell. I think he's got a low floor. Now, I get it, the ceiling is nice, But with all the wide receivers in this class, who are I won't say can't miss stars, but can't miss reliable wide receivers, I don't want to draft Rugs in the top fifteen. Yeah, he's he's definitely the biggest boomer bust one up there. But now, yeah, it's you mentioned the forty nine ers. Do you think that at thirteen? And so here's the here's the silver lining here. Daniel Jeremiah is extremely dialed in. He's he talks the NFL teams a lot. He has a lot of connections, right, and he continues to put it out there, continually does it, you know, And I hear it one time it's like okay, yeah, yeah, but he continually has been putting it out there that Rugs might be the first wide receiver off the board and at thirteen to the forty nine ers, that kind of makes sense because they you know, they're moving on from Marquis Goodwin, that field stretcher alongside of Deebo Samuel. That kind of makes sense. So is that possible? And if that happens, guys, where would you draft Rugs? Dude? If the Jags take him at nine, I will be pissed, and they're they're my team, I will be so madlethrow stuff. I would too, but it's John Ross went what was it nine overall? Eight? Yeah? Nine? Yeah, And if that was my team, I would have been pissed. That was a reach by the Bengals. Now, I liked Ross, to be fair, I'm gonna be honest about it. I liked Ross and I still do. But it was a reach. So if he goes if he goes there at thirteen to the forty nine ers, where would you take him in a redraft league? In a redraft league to the forty nine ers, I'd probably be looking at him in like the seventh, th eighth round. I still think that there are some concerns as far as like a you know, a rookie wide receiver coming in, and I would still like, I think other guys are going to fall into favorable situations, right, But as far as like a talent level, so I'll address Bobby. You mentioned Paris Campbell, two completely different type of players, because Paris Campbell coming out was a guy who needed scheme touches. At Ohio State, it was get the ball in his hand in a crossing route, just let him create, or behind the line of scrimmage and an end around those kind of ways and just let him create after the cat. Marquis Goodwin another type of different player, where Mirkey's Goodwin was just had blazing Olympic speed, right, and I don't want to take that away from him, but he was just a guy, like, hey, run a nine route every single time. It's not Henry Ruggs. Henry Ruggs has the ability to sink in and out of routes, run a full route tree. And yeah, maybe I wouldn't put him on like the caliber of a route runner that Tyreek Hill is yet, but we have to remember, like we're comparing these guys. Henry Ruggs is twenty one years old. Tyreek Hill is twenty five, twenty six, now whatever. In Oh, it's a fair comparison in terms of style of play. I think it's a fair comparison, just not quite there. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean, I think he still has potential because one of the things that I scouted and wrote down when watching Henry Ruggs was that he has a good release, but it's not there yet. Like he has all the explosiveness in the world, he just doesn't know how to leverage it yet, to be able to dip his shoulder and then explode through it. I just didn't see that a ton yet. So I think once he gets with a wide receivers coach in the NFL, who's going to notice that and say, hey, like to do these two things right and will be able to beat press coverage that much quicker than I think. The sky's a limit. But as far as like with San Francisco, for him to be able to be used in the short passing game, as far as the slants, intermediate routes, you know, deep ends and deep outs, at that point you're getting the ball in his hands and letting him create. So I think there are two different types of players when we're talking about Henry Ruggs and Paris Campbell to Markus Goodwin. I think Henry Ruggs springs more to the table. All right, well, I'm obviously going to talk about Ceedee Lamb wide receiver out of Oklahoma. I don't know how we haven't cover any yet because he's that consensus number one wide receiver on the board. I like Judy better. Ceedee Lamb is a close number two for me, and then I see a huge gap before we get to my number three. I'll bring him up later. I think it's gonna surprise him people. But he's Ceedee Lamb tags where does he belong? Yeah? Yeah, No, he's probably going to go to one of those teams that we were talking about, the Jets, the Raiders. Those are teams that need an alpha wide receiver. Me personally, yeah, I believe Ceede Lamb would be best fit if he were to go to someplace like the Broncos. And I say that because I don't believe that he should start as a number one. So I like him in Dallas for that reason. I mean Dallas, that would be kind of ridiculous. It's like overkill, right, It's almost like if you were to put him or Jerry Judy in Atlanta, And we talked about then the podcast, because Atlanta has locked up an edge rusher, been free agency, and it's like, if they want to go, I say, if Judy falls to them, or Ceedee Lamb falls to them, to the Falcons, just say, you know, it's screw

it. We're gonna have three guys out there that can destroy you. And is it overkill? You know, because you're gonna you're gonna be capped basically on what they can do because there's only so many targets to go around. Or what if Philly trades up from twenty one. Let's say Lamb still on the board at sixteen seventeen, they could trade up five spots and get him, Bobby, I'm not kidding. In our mock draft that we did with Daniel Kelly, I think I actually did that. I traded up with my Eagles and traded it up to get Ceede Lamb because it made a whole lot of sense and he wasn't going to get past a few of the teams in that range. So Ceedee Lamb. I believe he's best suit is a number two to start his career. Can he develop into a number one. Sure, but I think Yates and I are on the same page, aren't we Yates, Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm right there with you. I think there are still I think Ceedee Lamb brings so much to the table as far as like he has the best hands in this class, I believe, then he has insane contested catchability. Then he's an elite ball tracker down the field. His ability to adjust to the ball while it's in the air is unparalleled in this class. I'm taking Tyler Johnson in both of those hands and adjusting to the ball in the air. Over over, Lamb. Tyler Johnson is the man out of Minnesota. I love that guy. We can talk about Tyler Johnson again. So but with Ceedee Lamb, like I do have concerns about he's not the most dynamic route runner, right, Like we didn't see him run like a huge, you know, diverse route tree. And then also like in the Big twelve, he did not see a ton of relief press coverage, right, So I now I have concerns. It's kind of the same concern with Justin Jefferson. It's a little bit different. Where Justin Jefferson was primarily out of the slot, So I just don't I don't know his ability to be able to beat press coverage ceedee lamb. He just didn't see it from the corners in the Big twelve. So that's a concern for me as well. That prevents me from saying, you know, he's a bona fide wide receiver ones you know, day one in the NFL, and that's why I have him at four in my wide receiver rankings. Those concerns, but as far as what else he brings to the table, man, he's so so good tags Who is he in the NFL? Who a CD lamb? I mean, he's not DeAndre Hopkins, but I understand why people want to comp him to Hopkins. That's the type of player he is. He doesn't have elite separating skills like people talk about Hopkins, and they were mad when I left him off my top five route runners. I love DeAndre Hopkins as a wide receiver because he does things that some other people can't do. But they don't have elite separating skills. They're not top notch route runners, but they literally if you throw the ball them in a one one situation, he's probably gonna win it. And that's what CD Lamb does almost consistently, but we don't know. As he ate said, going from the where he was playing college football at in Oklahoma to the pros, it's going to be a big jump for him, and that's why I'm saying I would prefer him to be latched on if he goes to Courtland Sutton, you know, the one A and then him one B or whatever. It's kind of like DeAndre Hopkins when he came into the NFL. He was the one B to Andre Johnson and it really worked out. So I think that's the best path for Lamb because but if he falls into a situation where he's asked to be that alpha wide receiver right away and he's gonna see top tier cornerbacks, he might have a difficult time adjusting to the league. So so pay attention to the landing spot for him. Okay, so let's say Rugs goes to San Francisco, Judy goes to the Jets, Lamb goes to Denver. Who are you taking first in a redraft league? Tex Judy? Who are you taking first in a dynasty league? I'm taking Judy. I'm taking Judy one overall in a dynasty. I actually I'm kind of on board. I'm okay with that, but it depends on the running backs and where they land, Like if you get John Taylor in a dream scenario, if you get these guys some of these guys in a dream scenario, it's like, you can consider that. But if someone wanted to take Judy at one to one in a dynasty format, I have zero problem with it. And by the way, that's not a dynasty startup, that's a Dynasty rookie draft. Just want to clarify the same question to you, Yates, I'm assuming you would take Rugs over Judy and Lamb in that scenario. No, No, I would not. Actually I would take Judy still because Judy is gonna see the the you know, the amount of targets that would dictate, you know, like Teg said, putting him in. I wouldn't be surprised if you finish this as a wide receiver, you know, three or higher. That's kind of the same range for me, and I would still put Judy above Henry Ruggs. You Judy's my number one rated wide receiver, but I still like Henry Ruggs for who he is and what he can bring to an NFL offense. So a lot of people have been asking me like where I've been and stuff like dude, do you still work for Fantasy Pros? Yeah? Man, I've been doing like twenty podcasts a week. It's just a baseball podcast. If you do fantasy baseball, you're thinking about doing fantasy baseball, check out the Fantasy Pros Baseball podcast. I host it. Dan Harris does a Leading off podcast as well. You guys know Dan. He's a lot of fun. We have all the top experts. Just like the Fantasy Pros Football podcast, we have all the top experts from the fantasy baseball industry on lots of fun conversation. Don't tell anyone, but it's kind of my number ones for I love baseball. So if you're a fantasy baseball guy, check out the Fantasy Pros Baseball podcast tags. Let's move on to you. At number three, We'll stick with the wide receiver here. Let's go with Justin Jefferson. This is is here number four. It all depends on landing spot because I have Jerry Judy, I have Lamb, I have Jelen Rager depending and I also have Justin Jefferson. Right, in that conversation. Those are those are my top four. See Higgins is not in a com before you. No, I mean I

like Higgins, so we'll get into him in a second. But Justin Jefferson wide receiver at LSU, you know a guy that produced like massive numbers while at LSU he was. He was basically, you know, one of the top guys playing alongside Joe Burrow. And some people say, well, he had Burrow throw into him. I believe that when you combine a great talent at quarterback like Burrow and you cambine a great wide receiver like Yvan Justin Jefferson, you put them together and you get elite results. And that's exactly what we got. He's a guy that I would love to see him play the big slot role in the NFL. He's someone that reminds me a lot of like a Marcus Colston younger. Like's not he's faster than Colston was. Clearly he's a better route runner, but he plays that big slot role so well. Can he play on the perimeter? I think he answered that when he got up there with his forty time. So many people thought that he won the combine because its forty time. I'm not one I actually liked him. I didn't. I didn't find a problem with Justin Jefferson's speed, but now he's starting to get first run buzz. And I would love, absolutely love him to go to the New Orleans Saints because I do think he fits that big slot role so well. I know they just signed Emmanuel Sanders, but it could be a tutor situation. Emmanuel Sanders can play both on the perimeter and in the slot, and I think it could be vice versa with all three of those wide receivers Michael Thomas, Jefferson and Sanders, because let's be real Trackquan Smith hasn't turned into the player that I think they hoped he would have, and Ted Ginn has just done. This is a team that's trying to win right now, and Jefferson has experienced in the big stage. He's done extremely well with an accurate passer. Going from Joe Burrow and Drew Brees wouldn't be such a bad thing. And if he goes to New Orleans, I would say that he's someone you take a flyer on as like a wide receiver for wide receiver five in drafts, and you're gonna find out what you have right away. Sure, yeah, I like that fit a lot, Yates, what do you think, Yeah, yeah, I think. Well, I mean my feelings on Justin Jefferson, if if people have been listening to the podcast, are quite clear. I'm a huge fan of him. Actually just released a player profile video on him just the other day, which you can find at YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros. So Justin Jefferson is one of my favorite wide receivers in this class for a lot of the same reasons that Tag has mentioned. The only question with New Orleans is going to be is he there at twenty four? Right? We go to the Eagles at twenty one? Oh, you think he might be gone before then? Absolutely? I think Justin Jefferson at twenty one to the Eagles makes a ton of sense. They need a slot role with Nelson Agilar moving on, that would be an immediate upgrade. But then the Vikings just traded away Stefon Diggs. You plug and play Justin Jefferson in where you can move him into the slot frequently like they did with Diggs, you know, and

play that kind of you know, you saw Adam Thieland and Stefon Diggs rotate in and out of the slot frequently. Man, just do the same thing with Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson on the Eagles, Vikings or Saints. What's better Yates from a fantasy perspective, Yeah, fantasy perspective in twenty twenty, Redraft, I think Eagles. I think Eagles are going to be the one the team that would give him the biggest outlook, biggest ceiling for fantasy football in twenty twenty. Yeah, because the Vikings throw like fifteen times a game. Right, I'm taking the Eagles too, right, you know, that's what they That's what they want to be. Uh. You know, it's just gonna be question of if they're going to be able to do that. So, you know, he wouldn't have the competition for targets in Minnesota that he would for you know, in Philadelphia with guys like Zach Er It's Dallas Goddard, you know, Alshan if he's still there, to Shaun Jackson, like, you know, you still have some of these wide receivers there. But yeah, plug and play Justin Jefferson would be in Philly would be a great option for fantasy football tags. Do you agree Philly's the best landing spot over Minnesota New Orleans. Well, I would I would probably say New Orleans. But here's the thing. If he goes to the Eagles, I think there's a silver lining here is that I believe they might cut alshon Jeffrey if that were to happen, because with a new CBA, they can eat the cap number that it would take to cut him over this season and next season, so it's not as much as a burden. So if they were able to land someone like him, I could absolutely see them moving on from Jeffrey, and then I would absolutely say that Philadelphia is the place for him to be. All Right, Yates, let's get your next one, buddy. Yeah. So I'm gonna go down the list a little bit here, and that's Keyshaw Vaughn, running back out of Vanderbilt. This is a guy who I I have all the way up at RB four for me, So if that gives you any indication of how much I'm a fan of his. So he's five ft nine, two hundred and fourteen pounds. He's a guy who displayed great vision behind a terrible offensive line last year. You know, and there are a couple other backs in this class who could have that same kind of claim. Yeah, and against a very tough schedule as well, So he's of course he's going to look bad moving to the SEC. And then you're playing against that level of competition, with that terrible of a team. It's really really not going to be great for him. But he flashed continuously, you know, and so for me. You know, he's excellent and pass protection, excellent as a pass catcher out of the back field, his great contact balance, but runs a little bit more upright than I would like to see. Um doesn't necessarily have like tremendous lateral agility, but I think he wins in so many other ways that you know, will translate to the NFL. It's just going to be a question of does he get drafted high enough to get that role you know, carved out for him. So I think one of the teams that makes a ton of sense would be the Houston Texans. You know, the Houston Texans have brought in David Johnson, but they don't have anyone else hind him. And are we going to sit here and say that David Johnson is the long term answer there in Houston? Yeah, is his back going to hold up for four weeks ankle whatever, leg. You know, like, we just don't know what he's got going on there, So you know, is he going to be the long term answer? I don't think so. So I think if you bring in Keishaan Vaughn in the third maybe fourth rounds and I don't have their draft picks up in front of me, so, but you know, if you take him at that point and then bring him into backup David Johnson in that offense that you know, we've talked about it tags like the Houston Texans run the ball quite a bit and we saw Carlos High do great things for fantasy football last year. As far as from a volume perspective, man, adding in Keishaan Vaughn to that offense I think makes a ton of sense. You know, I'm a fan of Keishaw Vaughn as well. If he landed up in a spot like Houston behind a injury prone running back like David Johnson, I draft him at the end of the draft. I'm not going to say I'd be super excited about it, but he has some upside there. What do you think, Tags, I'm not And this is one of the players that yates and I like, we agree on a lot of players, but this is one of the players that I didn't see it on and it's one of those things where I'm working my way back and I haven't got through my second round with him yet. I wasn't a big fan when I watched him first. I mean, he felt a little bit stiff to me, didn't have too much wiggle. You like Zach Moss better than you like Keisha Vaughan, don't you You are sick? No, and Moss the injury history, that thing is, that's real that I can't deny that. But uh yeah, I would take Moss. M I would. I mean cam Akers from Florida State. I think he's someone that I would also take. And it really comes down to draft equity, because if a running back falls out of Day two, they're basically dead in redraft. They're not right right in redraft. Yes, I put an article out I think it was last week. These weeks are blending together with the whole stuck in the house thing, seriously, but I don't remember what week it was, but I put it up on the website where it was like what to expect out of rookies in redraft leagues and I went through and talked about and it was based on what round they're drafted in and all that. So you're gonna see if if a running back falls outside of the top three rounds, you're almost like not going to rely on them for any fantasy production in year one, and they're going to be relied on it is like a you know, just a backup. So if they're not going in those top three rounds, I don't see keishaw Von going there. I think he's more of like a Fifth Brown type player where he's gonna fall. And again, Moss is probably not someone that's going to go in the top three rounds either. So it might not matter because

again the NFL right now, when you look around teams like this is our job right now to look at the NFL draft and say what teams need running backs. There's not a whole lot of openings out there. Let's be completely honest about that. There's we used to be like, oh, this is a clear cut landing spot for him. This this this we just saw Melvin Gordon signed with the Broncos, who had two fine running backs in the roster. You know, like there's gonna be dumb NFL teams that are gonna take running backs well before they should. But at the same time, like trying to predict it, it's really difficult. All Right, I'm gonna throw out another name here. I'm gonna go with JK. Dobbins, and I want to see him end up in Pittsburgh because I don't know if James Connor is gonna hold it down. I think that Dobbins could be the guy who takes over in week four, Week five, and he fits into that offense perfectly. Tags what do you think about JK. Dobbins. I think he's better for like a wide open offense, like a spread offense that uses the running backs a lot in the passing game. I don't think he's someone that you want to rely on for any sort of workhorse role. And that's the reason I have him down at number five among running backs. I think he's going I'm not saying he'd be a three down you know, Bell cow back or anything like that. I'm just looking for opportunity. And that's the thing. I don't know if there is that. You know with Jalen Samuel's they invested him a little bit. They obviously spent way too much equity on Benny Snell, who moves like a snail. James Connor is not obviously not built to handle a workhorse role in the entire year, but they have running backs in the roster. It is a team that's built to win. Now, So could I see it? I guess, But yeah, Dobbins is a guy that you definitely want to see in a time share somewhere. I don't think he's gonna be fantasy relevant right out of the gate. JK. Dobbins is out of Ohio State running back yates. Who do you see him as like in the NFL? Man, It's hard. I haven't been able to nail down as far as a specific comp And again, I really don't say that's why I ask you. I was hoping you had an an. I really don't like trying to peg these guys into, you know, or try to fit these guys into specific holes. But as far as like a running style, man, I really haven't been able to figure one out. But Dobbins, I mean, brings a lot to the table throughout the College Football Playoff. He was actually very close to rising up to my running back one just because of what he did. He moves a lot faster than I think people give him credit for improved a lot from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen. Of course, had a phenomenal freshman season, then kind of fell off a cliff then rose back up. So I think he has some question marks and the fact that he you know, wasn't able to participate in the combine is going to hurt him, especially with this whole situation going on. So draft capital is going to matter. As far as like Pittsburgh specifically as

a landing spot, I think it makes sense from a need standpoint. I think they are ready to move on from James Connor and you know, and we're seeing those kind of reports come out. As far as an offensive style, I would agree more with tags that I think he fits more, you know, from a wide open spread concept. So yeah, it's it's difficult to you know, fully answer that, but he's someone who I really like. I have him as my running back. Three. All right, now, what we're gonna do, guys, We're going to do a lightning round here. Okay, So I'm gonna give I'm gonna start us all. I'm gonna give three players, three landing spots. I want and then Yates. You're gonna tell us which of the three we're gonna break down and talk about. So Jalen Reager, I want to see him with the Green Bay Packers man, because I don't think Devin Fonchis is the answer there. Let's move on to the quarterback position. Tah I know Tyrod's there in Los Angeles, but I want to see him with those weapons. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Hunter, Henry Austin Eckler. I'd love to see Tua end up with the Chargers. I don't know if it's gonna happen. I think more likely a Miami or even Detroit, maybe even Washington, but I would love to see him with the Chargers. And then my third one, this is my number four wide receiver, Donovan People's Jones out of Michigan. I want to see him end up with my Jags because I just love the Jackson. I really, I really want to see him on my team. So I know we're not going to talk about that one, but I want to throw it out there. So, yeah, TiO, are we're talking about buddy? No No. I love the fact that you want to talk about Donovan people's jones. I have him as my number seven wide receiver, and I thought, you do, Oh, I love you tax let's go oh baby, I didn't know that you were that high on a man. I have him at eleven dude. Yeah, I tweeted about him like six months ago, like, dude, this might be my number three wide receiver in the class. I'm a big fan of DPJ. We'll playing in Michigan. You're not going to put up gaudy numbers. And I think I don't know if people realize that. And like, it was funny I was watching I went back and watched him again. I think it was like just a couple days ago, and I ended up sending yates like the little clips of him and saying watch this, like, oh, he's upside his nuts. Man, his highlights are amazing. He's a guy that while watching him, even the stuff that's not on highlight reels, if you go through and watch the games and you could see how many plays were left in the table because a bad quarterback play. There's a lot, and he bails out his quarterback so much. He's a guy that I absolutely love. Have you heard the young man talk to He's an extremely impressive human being. I mean, this guy's gonna pick up an NFL playbook right away. He's one of those guys that I would not be shocked. Remember when Kenny Galladay was drafted much higher than anyone expected, and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Galladay like the guy a small school.

But I know he's out of Michigan. It's not a small school. But I don't think anybody expects him to go in the second round. But it would not shock me if an NFL team says, you know what, we like him enough that we trust we're gonna bring him in. I love that man. Yeah, I'd like to see him with Green Bay too, because I think Aaron Rodgers would love a young man like Donovan Peoples Jones on his roster. Green Bay would literally have like ten of the same wide receiver. You're right in your same size, all right. So yeah, if you get to pick who we're actually talking about, jaln Raager, Tah with the Chargers or DPJ. Let's talk about Tah And I'll mention really quick with DPJ, like I think he is someone who's intriguing. I have him as my wide receiver. Eleven. So I think you're right with consensus. Yeah. Yeah, what he needed to do at the combine would show up and be a supreme athlete, and he did that. You know, his combine testing numbers are ridiculous. He was the number one wide receiver coming out of high school like that didn't really surprise anyone, now, right, But he has never lived up to the billing. And I think watching tape, I would say that Nico Collins was the best wide receiver on that team. So I think Donovan Peoples Jones was definitely underwhelming in college. It's he's a bit of a projection at the next level, certainly, but the tools and traits are there to be, you know, a top option. So um, I certainly, you know, I'm a fan of his obviously at eleven in a very deep wide receiver class. Um. But anyway, so let's talk Yeah, let's talk about Tua so to a tongue Baloa quarterback out of Alabama. And the landing spot that you did there, Bobby was Los Angeles the Chargers, which is one that is my dream fit personally for Tua. I think from an offensive perspective, uh in you know, just style and playbook. It makes a ton of sense. The weapons there, I think would be you know, an upgrade for them. Um. I wasn't necessarily a huge Philip Rivers fan last year, so I think that adding in guys like you know, Mike Williams and you know the Keenan Allen specifically would would benefit greatly. Um. As far as like from a redraft perspective, it's you can't draft him in a non super fly right, yeah, right, you really want to try to stay away from rookie quarterbacks in redraft leagues, especially you know, in one quarterback leagues like you mentioned Bobby so but yeah, unless they're like run heavy and two is not. Yeah, yeah, exactly like Kyler. You know last year, Kyler was someone who we could all see, you know, landing and as a top you know eight option, top ten option at the quarterback position. So too. I think brings some mobility to the table, but he's not going to be someone who runs for Rusha's forever four hundred yards a season. So um. But as far as from a fit, two out of the Chargers makes a ton of sense, all right, And I just want to clarify too, as the quarterback at of Alabama, Jalen Raager wide receiver at a TCU and down of him People's jones played up there in Michigan where the offense just sucked. But he's gonna be amazing, all right, tags lightning round, Give us three names, Give us four names if you want. I want to talk about Joe Burrow to the Bengals, because I actually believe he's one that might actually have a redraft appeal, because he's gonna go number one to the Bengals unless you know, something crazy happens. And then let's go on the board. Let's say that Tee Higgins te Higgins goes to the Bears the second round. Interesting. Lastly, Denzel Mims goes to the Packers. Ah, yeah, I'd love that. You think he sneaks into the first round a second after the combine he there's buzz all over the place that he's gonna go late first. I love Mims man, he's my number three wide out. I have him right there at number nine. I don't have him that high. I actually like Quintet c Fist better. But oh wow, I needed to go back and watch the tape. If you like him that much, I'm telling you I mean Yates and I we talked about him and like we glow over him. His combine was disappointing for sure in terms of like athletic testing in the forty time. But the kid can play. He's not Brian Edwards, baby, he's not Tyler Johnson. He's better. I will fight you on this another show, all right, So where do you have up Mims going to the Packers? Huh? Yeah, I think that's a team that's the clear need there. So I mean, you guys, pick out which which one would you like to see happen? Most of those it's you yea two? Do you want to talk about? Man? I want to talk about t Higgins to the Bears because that has not I've not heard that anywhere. I haven't thought about that for a second, but it is really intriguing to me. So let's talk about that text. What's do they need wide out? Though? They do? Yeah, Gabriel's gone unless you think Riley Ridley is gonna walk in and play a full time role because Miller is only coming on the field and three wide receiver sets. Yeah, it's a question of does te Higgins have the speed to stretch the field? Well, that's the thing he's not like. He doesn't have Taylor Gabriel speed. He's not a low for three guy, but he does stretch the field. He very speeds extremely well, and he can play a possession of style role if you kind of want him to adjust to the ball really well. He's his ball tracking. He is the best ball tracker in this draft. Like he makes it look simple like And that's the reason I like him so much as a prospect is because there's guys out there that like they do. They do great things and you're like wow, but they don't make it look as easy as Higgins does. When Higgins is tracking a deep ball, he just makes it look easy like the ball it's it's He's a natural, is the best way to describe it. He's not a complete route runner yet and he's going to take some time to develop. He needs to become a better route runner. But if there's one thing that I know he could do right out of the gab stretched the field. Would you rather see the Bears go with kJ Hammler at that point

or t Higgins? I don't know if they're I don't I don't know if they need to go a handler. Just consider the player that he's going to be and how he should be used, because they used to recon in a similar way. I like Hammler, but knowing that he should be a primarily like more I'll say, not full time, but he should be a slot guy most of the time, and that Anthony Miller is their slot. You kind of have to look at teams like that, like the Bears. They have Miller, who can he play in the perimeter? Yeah he did at Memphis, but the Bears haven't used him in that role, so clearly Matt Naggie doesn't like it. You look at teams like the Raiders who need a wide receiver, but they have Hunter Renfro playing the slot. He's a slot only and you have to like almost cross off guys that are slot only when you talk about kJ Hamler. So that's an interesting name to bring up because if he gets within a coordinator that kind of knows how to move him around, it could be very, very interesting because I do like Hamdler. Imagine if he ends up with Tampa Bay and then Tom Brady can use him kind of like he used James Wide all these years. They could do that, I mean as a slot well, but they're again they're using godwinning the slot a lot, that big slot role. So I don't Yeah, why don't you go ahead and talk about Joe Burrow tags and then we'll move Ondy Yates for his lightning round. I like Burrow a lot. I mean, I think people forget. Even in the beginning of last year, people were using Andy Dalton as a streamer to be in the year, and that was without AJ Green, and then he lost John Ross and he was still able to be streamed in some decent matchups. So it's like, now, all of a sudden, you bring in Burrow. They're gonna get Jonah Williams back their last year's first round pick. It's almost like they have another first round pick that people are forgetting about because Joe Williams didn't play last year due to injury. They're they're trying to get the bet. They're trying to build the offensive line a little bit. Zach Taylor had a rough go and there was no way he was going to succeed with the team that they put that he had in twenty nineteen. But again, there was production to be had out of this offense. They have Joe Mixon, they have AJ Green coming back on a tag or if they don't work out a long term deal. Tyler Boyd has proven to be one of the better slot receivers in the NFL, and the possession style role odd and takes good depth too. They've got a time man and John Ross stretches the field like you have to like, it's picking your poison with this team. Because Mixon is a value everywhere in the field. You have Ross who's a field stretcher. Whether you like it or not, you do have to shade a safety his way because he'll beat anybody in a man to man And then you put aj Green out there and it's like, are we gonna leave him in man coverage? And then it's like are we stick Are we gonna stick a linebacker on Tyler? Wait? No, you're not gonna do that. So and Burrow can run too. Let's not forget that. He does run, and that's it's one of the things that's great about him, but it's also terrible because he puts himselves in harm's ways so much like the guy has well, I mean, Aaron Rodgers runs, I know, but he also slides like five yards before the guy gets to him. Burrow legitimately takes hits like he's too smart to keep doing that in the NFL. I would think he was too smart to be doing in the in the college because the guy, I mean, he was having a great season, but I saw him take some bad hits this past season. There's a hit against Auburn. It's Auburn. Yeah, no, no, there was multiple hits in that Auburn game. Yes, but there's one along the sideline that he gets his clock cleaned and then like, no, I'm not even kidding Yates. It was like a player two later. It was almost like the same thing breaking down and instead of just running out a bound sooner, he did like a spin move to come back to the inside of the field. Yes, yes, he didn't get hit. But at the same time, I'm glad you saw the same thing I did because he didn't get hit that next time. But I'm like, oh, man, this guy is playing with fire and he continually does it. All right, Yeah, so let's move him onto your lightning round. Who'd he have for us? Um? I want to talk about Antonio Gandy Golden Liberty, Oh, the upside guy. Yes, Antonio Gaindy Golden six foot four two hundred and twenty three pounds out of Liberty University, a Division one FBS school. He's not necessarily someone who possesses like great route running ability. Again, we have to keep in mind, and tags brought this up at the beginning when we're talking about John Ross and Calvin Johnson, like two completely different wide receivers. So with Antonio Gainey Golden though, you know, not necessarily the greatest route runner. Doesn't possess elite agility or athleticism. But yet, man, his hands is a contested catchability. And we had Waldman on this podcast. Man, this is two months ago now, and when we were talking about Antonio Gainey Golden, he brought up AJ Green. I was thinking Dwyane Bow. You remember Dwyane Bow. Yeah, yeah, somewhere over Duane Bow. When when he said AJ Green, I about lost it because that was the exact same player that I saw when watching it Antonio Gainey Golden. Now, I think A J. Green, of course, was more polished coming out of college. You know, I didn't have this huge, you know, competition level jump. But man, Antonio Gainey Golden, the things that he does, like go, yeah, I know that not everyone listening to this podcast has time to sit down and watch the tape. That's what we're here for to bring that to you. But man, you have time to go sit and watch his highlights on YouTube. Your jaw will hit the floor. He looks like it looks like he's playing against middle schoolers. Man, oh my word, it's ridiculous. And so but then so my concern with him was, Okay, how does he how is he going to perform at the Senior Bowl. Every report out of the Senior Bowl was that he was handling

the competition jump just fine against these guys who have been playing in the SEC you know, big ten, these larger conferences. And then he goes to combine and runs a four to six again at two hundred and twenty three pounds, Like that's a good time for who he is. He was not going to be a type of player that runs out. It comes out and runs a four four forty yard dash. So, Antonio Gainey Golden, when we're talking about pure upside, Yes, the you know, the floor is low just because of his competition level and the fact that he's not a polished route runner. But man, the upside, the upside is aj green, all right, What do you think tags. I mean, he's one of those players where it's like Donovan People's Jones right where we like these guys and it's like how how are they going to transition and where they going to be drafted? Because again, draft ac what he means, it means a lot, especially for a wide receiver, because if you're drafted in the fifth round, you're it's going to take you a bit to climb that depth chart. You know, someone like j g Arthega Whiteside was considered a great red zone presence last year and then he ended up going the second round and it's like, Okay, well he's gonna get more opportunities than we thought. But then we realize, okay, he's just a red zone guy right now. But he wasn't even that Gandy Golden. I do like I worry about some versatility because I think he's perimeter only and he maybe started out as like a red zone presence that they use because I do believe he can win in the red zone. It all comes down to opportunity with him where him People's Jones. These guys can fall in the draft and they fall to the fourth or fifth round, then they're not going to get opportunity right away. But if he's again, I can see both of those guys going on day two, and if they do, they're gonna get more opportunity. So I do like Golden, I have him as my number eleven wide receiver. I could, I could make the case for him to be number ten. So he's in that range where it's like that we have the elite, right like Jerry Judy's elite where I really it's almost doesn't matter where he goes in a in a way because the guy's gonna get targeted. He's an elite performer. And then like we slowly work our way down the tiers and Gandy Golden is in a tier where it's like, Okay, landing spot's gonna make a whole lot, I mean a whole lot to him, kind of like like guys like People's Jones. I think Mims to an extent, I think it depends on where he lands. But by the way Denzel Mims I wanted to mention out of Baylor. He reminds me, do you guys get the feeling of like someone like a Michael Gallop like could be a solid number two in the NFL out of the game. Yeah, I think better. Man. I love Denzel. I already said he's my wide receiver three. I don't think there's any chance this guy fails like he after Lamb and Judy. He's as safe as it gets. I don't know if I'm there yet. I don't think he's as polished of a route runner to be all the way up at three. For me, I have him at thirteen. So I still he's someone who I like in that like whide receiver two for an NFL team. Could he get to the point of being a wide receiver one? Sure, he has the size athleticism like he tested off the charts, So yeah, you can certainly get there. But you know, I'm what I'm doing, and when I'm watching back through these guys in colleges, I'm scouting who they are as prospects now, you know, and then saying and then once they get into the NFL, then we can do projections and we can say what they can be. So for me, Denzel Mims down at thirteen, but yeah, he's someone who I still like. Mims was my Justin Jefferson, like Yates Win, you loved Justin Jefferson before the combine and then he exceeded expectations and you were like, Okay, now I'm all in. Denzel Mims. I was super high on him before the combine. Now I'm all in. I'm gonna give a couple other names that we skipped over. Cam Acres his number six consensus in Fantasy Football rookie rankings. I'd like to see him with the Los Angeles Rams. Chanel was a lot of people had him in the mid first before you know, all the injury issues or whatever. Where would you like to see him land tags. I'm not big on Chanal, so it's really tough for me to say he can take a play to the house man he can and he reminds me a lot of Courdurell Patterson. Ooh, that's not a great cop I mean, I agree with it. It's not a nice thing to say. Yeah, when Patterson came in the NFL, I don't think the NFL was kind of ready for a player like that. And then like as time has gone on, there's more and more coordinators who are getting a little bit more creative, and you need a creative offensive coordinator to make him work. There is no way. I don't I don't think that there's a situation where he falls into where I'd say he's draftable in a redraft format. Honestly, there were a couple other names that we didn't touch on. I already mentioned Tyler Johnson. I think he has a lot of upside. Anthony McFarland. Where's the best place for him? Yates? I like Atlanta zippy little running back. Yeah. Yeah, I think when we're talking about like upside, Anthony McFarland junior out of Maryland needs to be in that conversation. This guy possesses insane athleticism. He's a jitterbug out on the field, so I think. But he does have this size and like I think density, you know, to be able to handle a workload role. But I think he would be best served and we've seen Atlanta utilize you know, the two running back committees. If they choose not to address you know, running back early on, Anthony McFarland could be there in the fifth round where they pulled a trigger and utilize him alongside Todd Gurley, just like they did with DeVante Freeman and Tevin Coleman. Let's be real, the Redskins are going to draft him because they're apparently they're apparently picking up like a bunch of mediocre running backs and then just saying that we we're gonna pay a bunch of running I think they have like six or seven running backs in their depth

chart now, like six or seven, and it's the equivalent of the Bears holding eight tight ends on the roster right now. Yeah, pretty much? Yeah, all right. I'm gonna say Jalen Hurts to the Patriots would be wonderful. Extremely accurate quarterback, can run. They don't really have the greatest weapons, but Finney and Bill Belick's scheme I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's too the Patriots end up going with a quarterback. I don't think Jalen Hurts is the best bit for New England personally. I just don't see that happening where I think Jalen Hurts you're going with from, aren't you? I'm going with Jake from Yeah Baby, I like that one too. Yeah. We're talking about a quarterback who can quickly diagnose the defense and get the ball out quick. That's, you know, what Tom Brady was for a long time. And again I'm not comparing Jake from to Tom Brady. But Jake brom is going to be there in the second or third round. He's a you know, high character player, a leader. He comes right in and you don't skip a beat there. And he know Belichick likes the draft guys who have been starters for a long time. And it's not like he had much help either down there in Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, the offense this past year was a bunch of you know, sophomore and rookie wide receivers. So there's a lot of just miscommunications that's to be expected with those kind of guys. So but yeah, Jake from to New England makes a ton of sense. That's a good one, man. Yeah, I think I might like that more than Hurts. I still think they're waiting on Andy Dalton to get released. I think that's what they're waiting on. That would make a lot of sense. They don't have cap space, that's the thing. I don't know how they would sign Andy Dalton. I don't think Dalton's gonna get anything. He's gonna get more than a million dollars. Man, someone's going to sign him for a six seven million to be a high end backup. But the cap numbers are so Yeah, they can they can make room, they can manipulate it, and no one. Bill Belichick, he might just cut his best defensive player to make like he final question, give me the best landing spot for any tight end? I want an answer from both of you. Guys, Y, it's your first gross Yeah, who is your number one tight end? Because you can ask five different guys and they're gonna give you five different answers. Because I've got seven tight ends with a third round grade and nobody higher. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of taking a tight end in this class. Before the middle of the second round, Adam Troutman graded out the highest for me tight end out of Dayton. But again, we're talking about a competition level jump there. Bryson Hopkins is literally like right there with him, tight end out to produce. So I think Bryson Hopkins has a chance to be the most like Fantasy relevant tight end this next year, but I wouldn't be banking on it. Who could use a tight end right away that we could see a rookie plug in and I think Hopkins. The Bengals. Yeah, they have so many weapons. Though I don't think I'm drafting any rookie tight end in any redraft leg no doubt about it. They show no, no, no, no. I wouldn't do that. Like if the Patriots went out and Albert oh okay way boon him, if they trade out for him in the second round, then I'll start paying attention because he could be amazing in the right offense and he has to be in the right scheme with the right coach that he's going to motivate him. But if nothing like that happens, I think the most polished and a lot of people don't even have him in their top five. But I really love Harrison Brian out of Florida Atlantic. Like he's not a flashy athlete or anything, but I could see him contributing him right away. Cool comet, there's a guy that he's gonna probably play right away because he can actually see from block sure. Yeah, and he's like he's kind of smart in terms of like his football IQ. He's someone that I guess could land somewhere. But I mean, we know better than to rely on rookie tight ends. I mean, even TJ. The Great t J. Hawkinson that nobody could miss on last year proved to be a complete bust outside of one game. Remember in Week one when everyone was doing victory laps. Man, see, I told you to draft TJ. Hawkinson. Yeah, then that didn't really work out. He was actually one of the most inefficient tight ends of all time, like in terms of like my data where I go back to, he was like one of the most inefficient tight ends like ever last year, mandate you like Thaddius Moss too, Where would you like to see him end up? Yeah? Yeah, so I love Thaddius Moss graded out really highly for me from a film perspective. But then of course has the Jones fracture I think in his foot and isn't able to participate in the combine. Now, with all this stuff going on, he's probably not going to be you know, medically checked before you know, before the draft. So, man, I think his draft capital is going to take a tumble because of it. He measured in a little bit smaller than I thought he was too, as far as like a hype perspective, so that could scare off some teams. I like the talent, but I just don't think he's gonna have the draft capital to back it up. From a you know, twenty twenty redraft perspective. All right, guys, that's all for today's show. It's good to be back on the show with you guys. Lots of fun. Give us all a follow on Twitter and Instagram at Bobby Fantasy Pro on both Instagram and Twitter, at Mike Taglier NFL on Twitter, at Mike Taglier on Instagram, and at Kyle y NFL on Twitter and Instagram. And check out the Fantasy Pros Baseball podcast Mike Taglier and Kyle Yates. I'm Bobby Sylvester. Thanks for listening and a joy football. I just wanted you to watch me just starting. 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