Full Transcript for The Rising Tide

album. 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:23.839 Keep it going with us, y'all. 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:30.639 If you're old enough to remember this one, you definitely need to be in your fitness regiment by now, cause that body's declining. 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:39.279 Just like my most to the pros. 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:41.839 Ladies, stay with us too. 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:42.959 We know the ladies love lyrics. 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:47.600 We talking slaps only. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.639 We talkin' free game hype songs only. 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.800 We talking shit to make it wanna live a little bit heavier, run a little bit faster. 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:57.360 Settle it, let's talk about it. 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:06.160 Don't catch your face. 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.040 My road dogs go for roads, baby girls, four years old. 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:09.839 We play the block. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.920 Pistol cop, you can shoot and get shot. 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:13.439 Kill you for your crack spot. 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:14.800 Take everything your ass got. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:16.319 Send me automatic spray. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:17.759 Buffs back up run away. 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.199 Niggas talking in the hallway. 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:22.800 You make my shit the shit that you can get. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:24.319 This was an error, this was a run. 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:24.959 When this was out. 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:36.560 Hey, I know we going through the banks first. 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.879 You know me, you know we going through the banks first. 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:40.879 Get comfortable, y'all. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:54.959 This might be a word for word for some of y'all out there. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.120 We gon' test y'all out today. 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.000 See if y'all know what's up. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:05.680 Thanks, talk to a one time. 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.920 But if you think otherwise, bring your boy over here and I can spake him. 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.079 I put an end to your career, bitch. 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:17.680 And the spare clip. 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.800 These niggas gassed up, being too used to rap. 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.480 Like I won't give them more blood clots. 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:23.680 The stupid cat. 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.560 Y'all young boys might not connect with it. 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.160 Gotta do your chat TV trees, gotta do your goopers. 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:40.240 Like the young James Brown. 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.879 I'm icy two rocks to hit you from a block away. 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:45.920 Like a beat from Dr. 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:46.399 Dre. 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:47.839 We're taking over this year. 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:50.720 Y'all know what time it is, man. 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.240 We gon' keep this thing rollin', man. 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.800 We keep this in the era, we keep this in the time. 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:56.720 Let's do it. 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:57.920 Miss my button. 00:07:58.079 --> 00:07:59.199 We fucking up, DJ. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:07:59.680 Let's do it. 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:00.079 Come on, man. 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:03.120 Come on, man. 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.279 We're taking it back to a lot more violent time. 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:06.399 After we promote it. 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.199 But that's just kinda how it went back there. 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.480 So your homies have stuck in the ball. 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:17.920 That's that old school shit. 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:19.839 I ain't trying to put you under the floor. 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:21.040 Try to fight everything. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:25.519 So you can't get low in the style. 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.080 You could tell me chill as a young nigga when this is all. 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:39.919 Maybe wanna be a little young, degenerate. 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:42.879 Before you learn to clean yourself off. 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.000 The shit get dark. 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.440 We hoppin' the hoop five. 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:52.559 Step the dick. 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:54.320 Why you lookin' for a bitch? 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:56.799 We lookin' for bricks that we can cook by sticks. 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.399 To give the whole block a fix. 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.440 Nigga, I ain't nothing but three. 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:04.159 Just a talk. 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:05.759 And it still sounds like this now. 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:06.559 That's the wild shit. 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:08.639 A lot of y'all lost track. 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.440 Show niggas that I'm nice and they ain't fuckin' with me. 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:12.799 They not silently niggas. 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:20.960 Couple A stars, couple B sides. 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:22.639 If you don't connect with this one, stay with me. 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:25.519 You might just have to tell me fuck with this dope. 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.039 All I know is drugs and guns. 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:29.600 There's plenty of weed in that bitch is stuck thick. 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:30.879 And niggas are bleeding. 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.600 If you rich before you go, get a watch in the drop. 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.320 Better hit the courthouse and go bell out the fly. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.200 If your son ain't worth shit, niggas will smother your daughter. 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.679 I come through in the forest the same color as water. 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.639 I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt. 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:55.759 Listen, y'all, if this wasn't on your high school playlist, if you was in the high school anytime around the early two thousands, you're fucking up. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:57.279 You weren't playing. 00:09:58.639 --> 00:09:59.600 You might have been on the pile. 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.639 You wasn't getting in

the game if you ain't had this shit on your playlist. 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:04.000 Let's go, Jaden. 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:10.240 Well, tips ain't here. 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.159 It's another word for word, another word for word. 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.320 You owe me one, I owe you two. 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:19.840 I would've smacked you with the burner. 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:21.039 But I know you too. 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.679 And I ain't talking to him, I'm talking to you. 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.360 Matter of fact, talking to y'all. 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:26.879 Life is like walking the yard. 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.039 Nigga stabbed you with a fork in the heart. 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.519 And the sauce got motherfuckers thinking they hot. 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:32.559 Like my dope. 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.320 Got fiends thinking they shot. 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.799 When you think it's the best, nigga, thinking the life. 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.240 So cut your fucking nigga off. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:42.320 If you think it ain't hot, then come through your block in a sticky green prop. 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.120 Hop out, let off 53 shots. 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:45.759 One care. 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.279 If I hit fifty-three tops. 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.000 Juliani might as well be murkin' niggas. 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:51.679 If you old enough to remember Juliani. 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.159 You definitely connect me. 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.879 Stay with me a little bit longer, that's why you be coming out them boards by now. 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:03.519 You should be ready to get out there and drop 40. 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.200 Who the fuck y'all won't step up? 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:22.399 Stay with me, y'all. 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:23.360 We got one more. 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.000 We got one more before we flip this thing off. 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:31.919 They can't, they can't, they can't. 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:33.039 Yeah. 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.000 Might be going over some of y'all heads with this guy for. 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:39.919 We talking to the heads today. 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.320 We talking to those from that time. 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.000 From that place, from that era. 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:47.200 We do this all day. 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:48.399 Stay with me a little bit longer. 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:49.440 We'll get to this thing soon. 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:50.240 Let's do it. 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.759 I'm known for hitting women's soft spots. 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.200 With princess cut canaries. 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:00.960 Word for word, word for word. 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:12.240 Billy poppin'. 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.559 Usually boys know the sketch superstar. 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:16.080 With the Bruce Leroy glow. 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:16.720 Niggas have to be a little bit. 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.799 That's the last dragon for y'all is too young to remember. 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.399 From the same year, the assassinated mouth makes so much ends. 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:24.080 Gotta find faster ways to count them. 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.720 Committed on the block, how fast I make a thousand. 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.759 That nigga you love that hate, still hug blocks. 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:38.720 We gave y'all the lobby to put in the last ones. 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.240 Y'all gotta rock out for it, put now. 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.039 Could they tell us not what I pull in this topic? 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.759 I know Shane Gilles had y'all up in the uproar. 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:48.799 Everybody calm down now, it's a new week. 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.279 One more verse till we got to hear. 00:12:59.919 --> 00:13:01.120 Let's get ready for the main event. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:04.080 Yellow is old. 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.679 Rest in yellow, linen covered in canaries, never flow. 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:09.840 I should not wear this much ice. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.480 The princesses in my head clean, cut right. 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.320 I would not talk this lick. 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:14.639 Why not? 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:18.159 With a watch embrace with this flooded and across this sticks. 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.679 So I would not get it hold. 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:21.360 Two of niggas didn't put it. 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:25.440 Might talk, but I live it through. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.679 An academic sample the laws. 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:33.600 Hypnotic samples the poor. 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:35.440 The European sample is all. 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.639 Wheel on the right side, do it the wing stamped on the door. 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:40.159 It's the street family walls. 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.840 I land by the stores, get pampered by walls, ain't scamping claws. 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:45.679 The kids been trampled before. 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.000 Ain't me the draw. 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.159 End up in the wheelchair, ramp by your door. 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.080 Why wouldn't this joy make you wanna do it? 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.240 Listen, man, that's a different kind of bad right there. 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.679 Why wouldn't this wet make you wanna ride? 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.960 Why wouldn't this game have you on your knees? 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.360 Why wouldn't these twenties be on the V? 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.080 Why wouldn't this be up out there? 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.000 If you ain't up yet, what the fuck are you doing? 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:15.679 It is the EFS Pod. 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:17.200 We are here. 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.000 Big energy on the way in on that one, man. 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.200 And as we wrap up the warm-up, hopefully you're ready for the main event. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.799 As always, one more time, we are back for another audio occasion.

00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:31.279 It is a podcast for self-starters and those willing to make the most out of any situation. 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:32.799 Got a guest in the house today. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.159 We'll talk about it when we kick off with our lead in audio. 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.720 Got a special one for y'all from a special guy. 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:40.559 Yeah, I know I'm a big fan of this man. 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:43.120 Good to see him back out there doing what he loves to do. 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:44.080 So come with me. 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:45.279 Let's talk about it. 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:47.039 There we go. 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:54.559 Eliminate all distractions, you know, what's going on, and just focusing on the process itself and enjoying it every single day. 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.480 Chopping wood, carrying water. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:05.919 Uh, you know, greatness is not meant for a few chosen people, it's it's meant for those who persistently pursue their dreams every day and make that choice when they wake up. 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:14.240 So um eliminate all ex-and-that's that man from the man, Kyrie Urban. 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:19.519 So, as always, as we get to this thing, let my theme music run. 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:27.440 We kick this shit off with one, two, three, an abundance of air horns on the way in. 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.120 We're getting closer to the hundreds, man. 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.039 We're gonna keep this thing consistent, we're gonna keep this thing up, we're gonna keep this thing moving. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:41.200 And if you made it to the audio slash visual, please do not get to like, comment, share, subscribe, do all the things. 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.480 Let yourself know when EFS is dropping on a week-to-week basis. 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:49.679 It is the man, the myth, the legend from the EFS brand himself, the biggest brand that you don't know about yet, Mr. 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:50.799 D Bird, with Mr. 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:52.080 1% two times. 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:53.440 Thanks for coming to check us out. 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:58.159 We got episode number 92 in the house, and as I said, we got guests in the house today. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.759 So we're gonna fade the theme music out, man, so we can give a proper, proper introduction to my guy. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:20.320 Round of applause for someone I feel is I would say I haven't known this man for a very long time, but you know when you meet certain people and they just give you a specific energy that you pick up on and then you can appreciate, you can vibe with, and then connect with. 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:28.320 You know, I feel like this guy has been that uh in uh in our short time of knowing each other, and uh and very, you know, gracious for giving me his time of popping out on me today. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:29.679 In the house, we got Mr. 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.679 Dave Lewis from the House of Champs. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:43.600 He's a gym owner, he's a person that, you know, we kind of teased and we wanted to have these conversations about, you know, with with people that are of the same mindset, of the same kind of industry. 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:48.080 You could even say direct competitors and all that, you know, which we'll talk about a little bit more in a minute. 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:58.399 Um as always, you guys know I'm big on collaboration, you guys know I'm big on, you know, just just giving people space and opportunity, even if it's you know somebody that I might want to call quote unquote maybe the op. 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:00.879 I wouldn't that I wouldn't say that. 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:07.519 And you know, I don't think we look at each other in that light just because, you know, from our first experience of meeting each other, it's been pretty much all love. 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.359 But once again, thanks for you for pulling up. 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:11.279 A little round of applause for you. 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:13.599 Yeah, of course, brother. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:14.480 Of course, you know. 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:15.920 Thank you for giving me your time. 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:27.039 Uh so as we open this thing up, man, I kind of wanted to get to a few things that we can converse about and speak about, you know, getting into your journey, getting into, you know, how you got to the point where you're at now. 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.960 Uh I would say, and I said this to you before, so it's not anything that you haven't heard. 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:42.960 Like, I do admire what you have do, you have done, have been doing, uh, and what you are doing now, uh, with everything you've created for yourself, uh your brand, uh, your business, uh, your your gym, your space. 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.759 Uh so we kind of wanted to dive into a lot of that today, you know. 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.079 And my guy came through with the Jays, you know how it is. 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:49.599 And the Knicks blue. 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:51.200 So it's only right. 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:52.160 It's only right. 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.000 So we'll get to all that talking a little bit later on. 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.480 New York Sport Sports Fandom, which we share. 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.000 Uh, but first and foremost, we are from the same place, you know. 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.720 We both are people from New York City. 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.839 Uh, I would guess what do they call us, the guys that moved out of New York? 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.480 And you know, I forget what we have a specific name for us. 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:14.319 That I don't know what they call us, but I always revert back to the Drake Bar Harley Home, but always rapping. 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:14.799 Right. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:15.279 Exactly. 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:16.079 That's how I feel.

00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:16.640 Facts. 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:17.039 100%. 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:23.039 You know, they joke about it, how like nobody's louder about New York than people who've moved out of New York. 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.119 I mean, facts, because we need to be, you know. 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:31.519 It's like you gotta I I feel like I represent, you know, our environment, like wherever I'm at. 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:35.039 And that's overseas and freaking down in Asia when I was there. 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.279 Like I I I just breathe and I bleed New York. 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:38.960 So for me, it's like just a vibe. 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:44.559 And I feel like, you know, it's not to shit on anybody else, but I do feel like New Yorkers have a special way of doing that. 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.880 And you know, you know, you know New Yorkers wherever they are, you know, all over the world, all over the earth. 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:55.839 So we've seen that with the last, with the the Knicks run to the finals where they just pulled up every OA game. 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:56.640 For 100%. 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:57.680 We every yeah. 00:18:57.839 --> 00:18:58.559 And I was one of them. 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:08.720 They know, they know I was I was at that closeout game in Philly when they play, you know, so for me, I'm pulling up for the boys whenever they're around in town, you know, or if I can schedule wise and all that. 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:17.359 But from the same town, from the same place, uh so I guess go back to your sports background, because that kind of you know relates to the you know where we're from. 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.559 Uh so give them a quick uh quick tidbit about that. 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:22.480 Like, you know, how'd you get to start in sports? 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:23.759 Like, you know, where'd you play? 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:24.640 Um and all that. 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:44.640 So growing up, uh my mom a few different sports I dabbled in, like martial arts, basketball, I did baseball one year, um, I had my godfather had a football team, a local football team, um Rockaway Panthers, and I played football, and kind of started to like it. 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:46.480 Shout out to the movie Logie. 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.119 Throwback classic classic. 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.160 It got me interested in football, is what I'll say. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.759 Um I played that when I was like eight, nine, ten years old. 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.440 By the time I got to high school, we went to Christ the King. 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.759 Um basketball school, as you knew. 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:02.400 Rivals. 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.039 You know, but uh rivals, but you know, it's loved today. 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.799 Those games was always live. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:13.680 But um the years I was there was a little bit more of a football school, so we had a nice squad there. 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:18.640 So um you won one in 2002, right? 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:21.279 2002 and 2003, junior season, yeah. 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.200 Oh, so the only two in school history. 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:25.680 Exactly. 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.000 But um, so yeah, uh played football. 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:38.880 Um we never spoke about this before, so now funny enough, growing up as a kid, I was a little stout, a little chubby. 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.200 I was a lineman when I was started playing football. 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:41.839 Wow, okay. 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:52.480 Then when I got to high school, started leaning out a little bit, so I was playing corner, I was playing receiver, um, so I was mostly floating around with the DBs, um, and then that's what I got recruited for. 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:59.519 I was playing some receiver, and funny enough, I was because of my background as an alignment, I was a real good blocking receiver. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:08.000 We were run heavy team because our running backs were like to be honest, our team was and I wasn't one of the star players. 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.039 The stars helped us win that game. 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.880 I was one of those guys that filled a good role. 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:15.680 Yeah, exactly. 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.200 And that attention that those guys helped bring to the squad. 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.400 So um yeah, I was a really good block receiver. 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:41.440 I got me recruited to go um, I was really good at corner safety, I got recruited to play DV, Peter University, and it was C to college after my freshman year. 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.599 I wasn't a big fan of the code. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:06.720 Dropping their football program because it's so football is one of the hardest sports to keep going for a college. 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.759 And what a lot of people don't know is schools lose a lose money. 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:10.160 Yeah. 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:11.920 You know, having a football program. 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:16.160 No other sport got 50, 60, 70, damn near 100 dudes. 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.640 You got to feed all these dudes, you got to transport them all over the place. 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:28.319 So there were teams in the conference that were losing their team, uh, losing their teams before we lost ours. 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:33.119 Then going into my senior year, like I said, we lost ours maybe like a month and a half before the season started. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:33.519 Yeah. 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:38.559 And there were some schools I could have gone to, like some schools that recruited me, a couple schools that reached out. 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:41.359 But I was like, um it'd just be a student. 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:41.680 Yeah. 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:42.720 You'd have to do that. 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:43.920 Yeah, exactly. 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:44.559 I

had my senior. 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.119 And at that time, you got to sit out a year and all that shit, too. 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:47.920 Exactly. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:48.319 Yeah. 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.720 They got it so good with the transfer now, bro. 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:51.680 Listen, listen. 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.440 Like they people on here know. 00:22:53.519 --> 00:23:00.799 Like, I've I've talked to the cows, come home about the transfer for them, but they're trying to fix it now, so we're gonna see how it goes, but for sure. 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:01.200 Yeah. 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:02.480 Um, but nice. 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:08.640 Um I ain't really know that much about you know you, so I appreciate the the stories on that for sure. 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:14.960 So went into the fitness realm after college, or like was it some time in between? 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:16.000 Did you get right into it? 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.319 Like, what was your you know, your transition in that time? 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:20.480 So I always stayed in shape. 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:22.000 I just always kept working out. 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.960 Um, that was something kind of just being a football player, it just instilled in me to like work out. 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:28.640 I wanted myself to look good, right? 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.640 Being in my 20s, living in New York still, Jersey area. 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:48.079 But um, I would say that the thought to get into the fitness realm kind of came to me probably a little after graduating, where I was training some people just kind of unknowingly. 00:23:48.160 --> 00:24:02.720 Just like I had one of my roommates who was a baseball player when I was still uh like a year after college, I lived with some of my boys right around the school campus or whatever, and he was still going to school as a baseball player, and so I started training him, and I was enjoying, you know, helping somebody else get right. 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:17.279 And then it kind of leaked into we me and my wife, we um we were doing CrossFit at a local uh gym in um in Queens, and it was run by a husband and wife, and they asked us to both come be trainers. 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.119 And my wife, you know, she was able to do it. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:28.720 I was working full-time, she was still, she was going to, you know, um grad school, and so she was able to do it, and we just kind of enjoyed the you know, she enjoyed it as well, you know, coaching. 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:39.200 And when my pops was already living out here in Delaware, we were still up in New York, and the idea he brought it to us, like, you know, you guys are you know, she was helping them coach or whatever. 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.039 And he's like, You ever thought about having your own gym? 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:42.720 We were like, you know. 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:57.920 But and you know, she was learning from them, you know, the ins and outs of how to run a business and all of that, and you know, kind of just snowballed one thing led to another, and I enjoyed coaching because at that time I had coached um a pop winter football team. 00:24:58.400 --> 00:24:59.920 So I was like, oh, coaching is cool. 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:05.920 And then not too long after that, I actually got into um coaching a junior college team at Monroe College. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:06.160 Okay. 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.880 If you're familiar with them, um they're up in uh New Rochelle. 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:10.240 Yeah, I've heard. 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:10.640 Yep. 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:16.559 So I was a receiver coach there, the their inaugural football season, the first year they ever had a football program in 2012. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:22.880 And so I just enjoy coaching, you know, teaching, you know, young kids what I knew and trying to give them as much as I could. 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.359 And um, yeah, kind of snowballed from there into you know the fitness part. 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:28.799 All right, no doubt. 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:31.359 Interesting story, interesting backgrounds for sure. 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.759 So move made the move out here to Delaware. 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:33.920 Right. 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:43.359 Uh obviously, you know, we we talked about it before with your father living here, made the transition, and then opened up, and now you you and your wife co-own the space, House of Champs, right? 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:43.839 Correct. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.119 Uh so let's talk about the the early inception of that. 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:56.160 Like, you know, I I'm big on giving people the raw details of like the actual the journey to get to, you know, getting to something like that as a person who owns a space. 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:05.839 Uh and you know, even for me, even more appreciative of the fact that, you know, you're someone who looks like me, you know, a big black business owner in that way, uh, who took the steps, got his space off the ground. 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:07.519 So, what was that like for you early? 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.240 And like, how did it, you know, how was it in the early days? 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:11.680 Because I'm still in the middle of mine. 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.160 So I like to connect with people about how theirs were. 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.160 You've had your space open for how many years now? 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:17.440 Uh nine and a half years. 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.839 Nine and a half years next summer. 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:20.400 Yeah. 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:26.400 So for me, that's you know, I I only aspire to get to that myself at at some point. 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.319 But uh the early days for you were like what? 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:29.200 You know, how was that? 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.680 So when we we moved out here with the intention on opening up the

gym. 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:34.000 Okay. 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:38.000 So like once my pops, you know, my pops, shout out to him. 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.640 Um, he's a serial entrepreneur. 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:46.319 Um, he's been doing entrepreneurship since I was a baby, since like he, you know, had me in like early 20s. 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:51.279 And um when he moved out here, like I said, he moved out here in like 06. 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.640 But um he told me, he's like, yo, I'm gonna get this property. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.519 We're gonna, you know, put the gym on this property, and you know, he's gonna have his business on there as well. 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:05.839 But knowing him and how he does things, once he's locked in on it, like we're gonna see it through no matter how long it takes. 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.200 So I knew once he said he purchased the property, it was a done deal. 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:10.880 Like we we was up and moving. 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:21.440 So um we moved out here in 2015, um, and we he purchased a property, it was like an old abandoned warehouse, uh front used to be an old furniture warehouse. 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:28.400 And we literally, me and him, day in and day out for two years, tore it down demolition-wise, and then built it back up. 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.119 So, like, you allowed it to work like yourself. 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:31.759 Correct. 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:39.839 Like, there were there obviously, you know, there was parts where like, you know, when it comes to things like electricians and HVAC and plumbing, higher out of the thing. 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:47.519 Yeah, yeah, we we hired out for some of that stuff, but a lot of it was me and him and there, you know, putting the work in ourselves. 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:47.839 Okay. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.039 And so like I literally could say, I built that place. 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:52.559 Like, I built that shit. 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.519 So um, and that was the intention, you know. 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.880 Uh obviously that helps save money, yeah, you know, for sure. 00:27:59.359 --> 00:27:59.440 Right. 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:04.480 But um, you know, it also allows me to that's that sweat equity. 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:22.799 Yeah, you know, so like he funded all of it, but from my part, that was the sweat equity because then there was also times where like he had to go out and you know do work, and I was in there, you know, maybe not by myself, but I had, you know, a couple extra hands in there, you know, we're building stuff, building a wall, breaking up concrete to level out the floor, something like that. 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:28.880 But um, so it took maybe a year for his side to get up because he runs he he owns an insurance business. 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.680 And so he and that was what was funding everything. 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.200 So that had to get up and running first. 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.960 So we started in like late, I say September 2015. 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:47.359 His side of the insurance business was probably up and running by like spring 2020 2016, and then um the gym got open summer 2017. 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:47.839 Okay. 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:53.200 Um, you know, the whole permits and all that other stuff dealing with the county. 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:54.160 Listen, talk about it. 00:28:54.480 --> 00:29:11.680 That's man, they gave us the runaround so many times, and it probably would have got done sooner had it not been for all the delays they had us dealing with, where like I think the summer of 2015, or it's not summer, excuse me, the winter of 2015 going into 2016, we didn't do anything. 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:16.160 We had to like literally shut it down because they're like, oh, you don't have a permit for this, you don't have a permit for that, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:21.039 Listen, and we literally just was like, yo, bro, I was like, why y'all exactly why y'all making this shot? 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:37.279 So I didn't cut you off, but like I feel like all the the business owners that I know that I've spoken to within the past like a year and a half of me getting to the point where I'm at now, um, at least the ones that own any physical location, you know, online is different, you know, the social media, like that's all that's a whole different thing completely. 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:47.599 But like the ones that actually own a physical space, the one thing that they've all like either asked me questions about or giving me game about is like, yo, how how you handling the permits? 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:55.839 Like, because that shit alone is a whole like undertaking to get over to get your spaces open to where you know you can then serve people. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:19.119 Like for me, specifically, when I got to my space, I had to do like a temporary permit just to get myself in the door because I was renting another space uh close by to work with my clients and then having to like pay rent on that space while I'm still building out a whole facility of my own and paying rent on that space because you gotta pay rent in order to you know keep the space that you can build on and all that. 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:33.359 So for me, it was like a whole process of like trying to one get to the point where I didn't have to pay somebody else and then get to the point where I can get my own stuff off the ground at the same time, uh, just so I could literally make money and not have to pay out so much other money to other people. 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:55.440 So, you know, that part of it alone has been something that uh I'd like to make you know even more of a conversation to people because sometimes people get into the the mindset that they want to open a business and have a space, but then try to take shortcut shortcuts and then go you know around

certain ways that you know you need to go just to get to the point where you are actually stamped and good as a business owner. 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.599 So uh learning experience for me and going through it, you gotta go through it just to get there. 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.440 So you know, and it sounds like you had your decent uh amount of it too. 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.000 I got pushed back, I want to say a good three, four months. 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.960 So, you know, yours seemed like it was even longer than that, you know. 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:23.680 Yeah, about to say that was the first pushback where they had us where like we were tearing, I remember we were tearing down the the roof on one part of it, and so there was no roof on one part of the building because we were tearing it down to put it back. 00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:35.200 And then I forget exactly what the specifics were, but they just made a we had to stop, and I'm like, yo, the winter is about to be here, it's like late November, and y'all gotta stop it when we gotta cover this roof, right? 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.359 Right. 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:39.599 And so we ended up having to just tarp the roof for the entire winter. 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:47.279 Uh and thankfully, you know, it wasn't one of those like heavy snow winters or something like that, so it wasn't too crazy. 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.920 But um, that was just the first hang up. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:32:01.440 We had another couple along the way that were, I would say, from our perspective, because I don't know what they need or what they gotta go through or what they, you know, what the the rules are. 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:02.480 I know where you're going. 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:03.039 Yeah, bruh. 00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:03.680 I'm just like, yo. 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.640 But for real, for real, I was just like, yo, bruh, this is some bullshit. 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:10.960 Yeah. 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:11.839 This is a bullshit. 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:16.640 Y'all know y'all giving us a little bit more of a hard time than you need to. 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:17.759 Exactly. 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:24.799 But you know, overcoming all that, you got to the point where you've been over for nine and a half years now, headed towards a 10-year anniversary soon. 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.400 Y'all do an event or anything for it? 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:27.279 That's a big one. 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.759 Ten years in the that's it is, you know, I'll be honest. 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:30.880 You gotta do something for that. 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:32.720 I haven't thought about it at all. 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.200 Um, we honestly, me and my wife were very like staying. 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.599 We don't need yeah, we just in the moment, like we don't think about like big celebrations or big like moments or nothing like that. 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:48.000 We're just like But ten years in business is like that's yeah, that is an accomplishment. 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:49.839 It is, it is as you say it's a good idea. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:58.000 I would challenge you to make sure you celebrate it because I'm often the same way where I'm like go, go, go, go, go, and then I don't take time to appreciate what I actually have done. 00:32:58.160 --> 00:32:58.319 Right. 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:07.359 Uh so I would say now I'm getting better at taking those little moments to have like time to say, yo, this is some dope shit that I did, and then from there get right back to the next thing. 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:18.960 But I think that oftentimes the the people of purpose, the ones that are like driven and just we go go go, we look back and it's like, damn, I wish you know that would have been more of a thing to be like recognize. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.440 So you know, not to say that you know you're not gonna recognize it in some way, but that's big, bro. 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.279 Ten years of business is a is a thing, you know. 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:26.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:34.240 It's I think the the status ever is what businesses go out of business, like every new business goes out of business or something like that. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.599 Every three to five years or something like that, yeah, they don't make it past that. 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.920 So it's it's definitely a blessing, man. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.799 I'm not gonna sit there and shun over it or nothing like that. 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.720 It's it's dope when you sit there and think about it and actually let it sink in and process. 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:47.279 No, for sure. 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:53.359 You know, and you know, my I guess my brain is always just thinking, yo, let's get to 20, let's get to 30. 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:54.240 Like I feel that. 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:55.279 Nah, for sure. 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:55.920 For sure. 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:05.440 But I guess over the course of those 10 years that you almost 10 years that you've been in business now, I guess what would be your biggest keys to longevity and success? 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:17.840 Uh, and success in a space that I feel like is very oh, we are we operate in a tricky business, you know, um, just because as trainers, we are not a necessity. 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:23.920 Uh, and a lot of people will have to come out of pocket to pay for something that is technically a luxury for them. 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.119 That's literally the word I use all the time when I talk to the kids. 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.960 I'm like, this is a luxury that your parents are providing you with. 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.920 Like you, uh I tell them, hey, be grateful. 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.559 Give thanks to your parents because this is a luxury. 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.599 They don't have to do this. 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:39.360 This is extra on top of.

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:40.159 Exactly. 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.519 You know, so and in my line of business, I do operate well. 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.800 You have adults that work out there too. 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:45.360 Yeah. 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.679 So, you know, I haven't my client base, I would say, is more heavy on the adult side now. 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.400 Uh, and mixed in with that, some of the athletes, we spoke about this outside of that. 00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:02.880 But um, but for me, having even the adults like come in and just be that, you know, consistent with showing up and keeping me in business is a thing. 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:07.920 So I guess on your side, what do you think have been like the keys to you getting this far in it? 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.440 Uh, I guess your best one or two that you can give me into people. 00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:27.039 Um, the best one is just being really good with people, it's being like a personable, being friendly, being kind, really investing in like wanting to see the people that come to you be better. 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.880 Like they're coming to you so that they can better their lives somehow, some way, shape, or form. 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:36.880 So if it's an adult, like you know, quote unquote Jim Pop, they're trying to improve their health, literally. 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:55.679 So, like really being invested in, you know, trying to make sure they do get better, they push themselves so that they can see that next level, so that they can see, oh, I I can do more weight, I can, you know, move faster at this particular exercise or drill or whatever it is, because you know, we'll add a little athletic component for the adults that we have in there too. 00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:08.079 And you know, same thing for the athletes, where it's like, you know, really being invested in watching them improve and wanting them to improve, wanting them to challenge themselves. 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:21.039 Um so I think when someone goes out of their way to technically believe in you to help get them to that next goal or that next step, that's that's huge. 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:33.039 Cause then when they feel that they're going to go out there and the way they quote them, they'll reciprocate it, I guess, is uh you know, other than you know, obviously thanking you and bigging you up, but they'll go tell somebody else. 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:43.360 And that's what's gonna help build that business up because I I say this all the time word of mouth is easily the best, especially out here in like a small town type area. 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:49.039 Um I think word of mouth is like the biggest advertisement you can have. 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.320 Like it it stands the test of time, like no matter what. 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.320 Yeah, and I'm and I agree with that like wholeheartedly. 00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:05.440 Uh I'm at the point now where I'm starting to really look at what marketing looks like for me over the next six months to years, to two to five years and stuff like that. 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:14.079 Um, but I will say this far into it without having paid for like any kind of marketing agency, any kind of like ads or anything like that. 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:20.559 Because my whole goal when I first started, when I got my space open, or even before I got my space open, because I quit my job in 2025 in June. 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:25.440 So at that point, I was just trying to promote myself and you know, knowing what I was working towards. 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:36.480 Uh, but just having the opportunity to work with people that kind of already knew me from one space, and then they trusted me in that way, and then to then go out there and talk to their friends about it, and then have them come to me. 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.159 And then these people now have been with me for a year plus. 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:45.039 Like that part of it is is encouraging and just continues to kind of bring me newer business. 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:58.719 And I say, I said this to somebody else recently, like the path I'm taking is a little bit more slow, just because again, I'm not injecting a whole bunch of money into marketing and all that because where I'm at, I feel like I've kind of planted my roots in that community. 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.199 So my name is kind of good with that people in the area. 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.519 So let me see how I can stretch myself, you know, without having to go to the companies to say, hey, promote me. 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.039 Like I'm reaching out to you directly. 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:15.599 I'm, you know, we have a conversation because I'm in town or run into you in the freaking like the store, the grocery store out there. 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:21.199 And it's literally been, you know, my experience to where I run into somebody that, like, oh, like, yeah, so you're looking to work out? 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.719 Yeah, you know, I'm opening my space, cool. 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:23.920 All right, I'm gonna come check you out. 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:25.039 Boom, they sign up. 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:33.280 So, you know, that kind of stuff to me is like what I get a drive off of because that's the real like connection to people that you know that you're having that you're building. 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.920 Uh, so I do agree with that wholeheartedly. 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:46.400 Um, and I support that, you know, word of mouth does go a long way, and it may not be the fastest way to get to the to whatever goal it is, but those people do they end up sticking around longer. 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:46.960 For sure. 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.360 You know, once they swear by you to someone else, then you know, you know the next person is coming to you. 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.440 One, they always have have an expectation, so you kind of got to keep

yourself on point. 00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:56.159 For sure. 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:04.159 But on top of that, you know, if you do good by those people and you know continue to do good by those people, then you start to build a community of people that you know they trust you for what you do. 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.880 So and it definitely seemed like you've done that down there. 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:19.440 I would say that you you keep like a you should be packed out, you know, just by having like a lot of people, athletes in there on a consistent basis, you know, and I've seen facilities that kind of mirror that in bigger markets. 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.000 So when I saw you and I really like started to look at like, all right, what's he doing down there? 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.079 I'm like, oh shit, like this guy, he got some shit. 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:35.039 Like, you know, it ain't obviously every session or every class ain't gonna be the big one, but to have that many people in there consistently funneling in and out your facility, and I've seen it in person myself now, right? 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.400 Having you know been down in the space, it's like it's like a good thing. 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.800 So you know, salute to you for that 100%. 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:41.920 Appreciate it, man. 00:39:42.000 --> 00:40:00.480 Um, so just to tie into the to the word of mouth piece, there's this so like back when I first first started, and one thing that really helped me kind of get the business off the ground is when I first moved out here, my younger brother, he was playing football at the local school, CR, and I and they needed a receiver DB coach. 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.519 So, like literally the week I moved out here, I went on an interview for that job because they were about to start camp. 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.639 And I got it. 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.920 And that was one of the things that helped link me into the community right away. 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:10.400 Right. 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:19.920 And so when I started the gym, one of the young boys, um, so when I moved out here was 2015, and the the young boy, my man James, he was a sophomore. 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.400 And then he was um his senior year, you know, trying to get ready for college ball. 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:26.639 He he was trying to train. 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.679 And, you know, obviously not everybody can afford that luxury that we were talking about. 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:38.800 So I was like, yo, you you know, I coached you back at the school, I'll take care of you, don't worry about it, just come through train or whatever. 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:43.199 And you know, you do that for a select, you know, a few people or something like that. 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:44.239 If you know, you know. 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:44.639 Right? 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:52.800 So flip to his mom telling her co-worker about the gym. 00:40:54.239 -->

00:40:56.400 Her coworker had a daughter who played volleyball. 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:17.840 I can directly connect every single volleyball player from 2017 all the way back to that particular mom and that kid that came in because I let him come in, said, like, you you just helped me, you know, sweep up around here, cut some grass in the back or something like that. 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:18.159 Right. 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:19.840 And you know, you just come train. 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.239 Like that's what he did, you know, to make up for it. 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:29.599 And like that word of mouth piece, till this day, like I said, 2017, she was our first volleyball player. 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:52.559 She brought a friend immediately, and then that mom told another mom, and like, like I said, till this day, I was just telling you how like one of the local volleyball travel programs out here, we got their whole starting six for their I think it's like their 16U team, and you know, three go to one school, two of them go to another school, another one goes to another school, and then they tell friends at all the other schools. 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.480 And so, like, that's uh how that word of mouth piece just spreads. 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.679 And like I said, in a small town like like if this is New York, it might be a little different. 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:10.320 Yeah, potentially, yeah, potentially, and then you know, but small town like this, Delaware, you know, it like I said, it spreads and it you know helps keep the business thriving. 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.039 Well, listen, man, it's successful thus far. 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:18.159 So I do think that you know it is something to highlight what you've done and what you're doing in your space. 00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:23.920 Uh so go along with the theme uh of my podcast, uh just the Engineer for Success podcast. 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.639 Uh uh, I like to kind of dive into the mindset of like what you feel like your biggest success thus far is. 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.880 Uh, and that could be in business, that could be in life. 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:40.800 It doesn't have to be a specific, you know, thing related to House of Chance, or it could be, you know, but uh I guess what do you feel like has been your biggest success thus far? 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.599 And uh I guess what do you feel like your next one that you're looking for also is? 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.559 So I guess two parts in that in that question. 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:55.440 A little tough, but um I guess it would I mean it would be the gym. 00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:07.519 Um like I said, me and my pops for two years literally woke up and like I was never much of a builder or anything like that, like construction-wise or nothing like that. 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:13.519 Um I always joked around and said, you know, uh if I wanted to do work and labor, it was just lifting weights. 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.280 Like I didn't want to like grab a drill and grab a hammer and do anything. 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.320 I'd be like, all right, I can pay somebody and who knows what they're doing and do that. 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:20.719 Right. 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:27.280 And the time, so maybe not the gym itself, but the whole process of getting to building the gym. 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:37.360 You know, because that turned into me learning a whole nother like I know how to build a wall now if I needed to build a wall, mm-hmm, like in a in a home so because of what I did at the gym. 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.880 You know, I know what I would need to do if I needed to if my ground cracks because of an earthquake or something like that. 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.519 I know how to re-level the floor or something like that. 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:54.000 So um that the foundational piece to the gym will probably be the biggest success. 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:59.679 The gym kind of coming in a strong second in terms of being able to be open for close to ten. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:06.239 years um you know or I could kind of even say being a dad and a good husband. 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:26.800 Those are those are like the cliche answers for you know and from your which we'll get to it the next second but we'll actually transition pretty well right now because I did want to get into you know your you're a sports dad you know right uh and I've seen that from your social media content and as that being something that's important in your life you're doing a pretty good job at it from my vantage point. 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:27.519 Appreciate it. 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:46.719 And your your children are uh nicknamed thing one and thing two yeah uh so I guess how did that come about uh and then uh we'll dive into you know your your your your oldest athlete and what she's doing out there so you know where did the thing one and thing two come from I mean that's just that cat that had uh you know Dr. 00:44:46.880 --> 00:45:06.559 Seuss throwback man oh okay so um I don't even remember exactly which book it was but yeah he had thing one and thing two that were like tearing up the house and all that and I've you know it just it worked out perfect having two kids and that that's just thing one and thing two and I've been calling them that since day one. 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:12.159 So once I got thing two like when it was just her it was you know just Ava. 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:19.360 But you know once once he came around I was like oh I got two of them thing one thing and we ain't having no more so because I like to consider House of Champs the third kid. 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:19.760 Okay. 00:45:19.920 --> 00:46:09.119 Like the business the gym is like having another kid because you know you're watching it grow you know you gotta you know be there more in the beginning kind of as it gets older and gets a little more self-sufficient you can

move away from it a little bit maybe later but um but yeah that's our third kid technically but yeah word work and your first kid she's a multi sport athlete you know and I'm I as my own athletic journey I was really locked in on one sport basketball um so I do admire players and athletes that can be successful in multiple sports uh so was that something you kind of pushed her to or was that something that she was like listen I want to try this I want to try this like how did that go for her in general or y'all as a family I would say so being that I'm a football player my wife was a soccer player she played at St. 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:18.800 Peter's as well as soccer yep so mom and dad are D1 athletes so I joke around with her and I joke around you know my son now and I'm like y'all got no choice but to be good athletes. 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:19.039 Right. 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:26.079 You gotta be at least pretty good like because not only were we both you know D1 athletes now we train kids to be good athletes. 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.000 So our kids gotta be good athletes. 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:29.840 You know you guys are our number one ad. 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:37.360 Advertisement but um so I always felt like basketball and soccer were gonna be the two sports in the house. 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.559 You know, because I'm like all right my daughter's not gonna play football so it's like that basketball is my second love. 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:55.679 So I'm like alright you know teach you basketball and soccer was her first sport maybe from like three, four years old but um I introduced basketball to her right around seven, eight years old and she really seemed to take a liking to it. 00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.639 And so I was like alright cool we're gonna double down and we just gonna keep going at it. 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:13.199 So she always you know like I said she played soccer like all the way up until like I said from like four to like eight years old then I started introducing basketball and she was kind of picking things and she's she's one that picks things up pretty quickly. 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:24.639 And so she was picking it up pretty quickly and we really started to harp on you know the training the skill work and got her in the AAU when she was like 10 just to try it out and she did pretty decent. 00:47:25.039 --> 00:48:30.079 She's EYBL now right um not an official EYBL team um she she could have been put it like that I I chose uh a different squad but um yeah yeah but um you know she could eat she could play on that level put it like that um so yeah she's been taking basketball serious she played basketball and soccer all throughout middle school um had a really good middle school career won the Capitol Classic which is like the big tournament out here the back to back years soccer they went undefeated this last year like she literally eighth grade year she didn't lose a game she went undefeated in soccer she

went undefeated in basketball led the team in scoring in basketball led the team in scoring in soccer and now she picked up flag football because I was like hey soccer out here for the girls is in the spring same a same season as AAU so when she was in sixth and seventh grade we were doing both sports at the same time she would leave like soccer practice at school and have to go to AAU practice have a champ have a tournament weekend and then go right into a soccer game on Monday. 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:44.400 Yeah and so this past year for eighth grade we were like we're taking off AAU just play soccer because it's probably gonna be your last year playing soccer if we want to really focus on basketball while you're in high school because I don't want you playing two sports at one time. 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:44.639 Right. 00:48:44.880 --> 00:49:18.639 You know being in the realm that we're in now understanding like the fitness and how you know a lot of breakdown exactly the burnout the breakdown of the body I I wanted to make sure she's she doesn't get there to the point where we're you know she's break her body's breaking down she's you know she gets to a point she's sophomore junior year she don't want to do it no more because she's burnt out right so we took the year off AAU and so I'm like so instead of doing soccer in high school let's pick up another sport and it turns out the school she's at now ursing they have flag football and she's just an athlete so she's picking that up quick. 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:37.199 She did a little bit of club her sixth grade year um where like her school had like three weeks where they just played like flag football in this you know within the school against some uh high school girls and she liked it and so when we found out that the school had it she picked it up and she's she's starting to kill it there. 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:38.079 She's starting to love it. 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:44.320 Well no I mean she looks she moving you know at least from from from what I've seen you know not in person. 00:49:44.400 --> 00:50:16.000 But uh with the basketball season coming up definitely we'll be looking out for her uh kind of trying to keep my eyes on the on the the girls basketball scene here uh having coached in it and having people that I know that I'm very close to you know in it as well so well let me flip it for you how did you get involved in coaching girls basketball over at Smyrna good question um that was a I want to kind of say it was around it kind of mirrors what you said about when you came here first and then you got right into coaching at CR. 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:33.840 Right uh I came home from overseas in 2019 um with the mindset of like I was going to get into like strictly well not strictly I wanted to do player development as far as uh being a skills trainer like the guys that you could work with on court but then still uh being able to handle like the strength and condition inside of it too. 00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:48.000 So my mindset when I came home from being overseas was to then dive into like that like wholeheartedly and and then at the same time not wanting to you know burn into too many of my funds that I had when I earned over that I earned overseas. 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:56.480 I wanted to kind of get some steady like gigs when I was at home to kind of figure things out in the first year of me being like a a gen pop like you said before. 00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:07.519 So my ex she was a graduate of Smyrna and she has still close ties in the community to where her family was on like the the school board. 00:51:07.599 --> 00:52:25.519 I think her her dad's uh her dad's I think no not cousin her dad's she was somebody she's related to on her father's side is one of like she's one of the big wigs in the Smyrna school district so when I came home she was basically like hey this job is available if you want to sit down for it then go for it I had no coaching experience like I just literally was like I I'm working with players on a one-on-one or small group setting working on skills shooting dribbling all that stuff we would lift after while I was still studying my personal training certification to add that to like what I was offering clients uh so then in that first summer when I interviewed for that job they was like listen like you just came home from overseas like they gave me two options they said you can be the assistant on the boys team or you can take over your old program and you know run the girls team I came home from overseas you know bullish and like like nah I ain't I ain't coaching behind nobody's fuck out of here so I'm taking the girls team which I had never coached girls basketball before but I'm like fuck it let's give it a try and then I did it for three seasons uh up until the point where I turned it over to their coach now who's my my man Eric Gums they just went to the state for the state championship last year yep ended up losing but he's taking the program like way further than you know where we even had it but it was kind of off of the foundation that we laid together. 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:32.079 So you know humble brag I joke with him sometimes of like you're only this far because you know you started off with me like that kind of vibe. 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:51.360 So they got a they had a mob the last couple years man they had a mob he's doing some big things over there like I I I'm proud of him just because like I've seen like we was in the trenches together when it like the team was trash and to the point where the last year I coached there it was the first time they made the playoffs and the best season they had since players like Bernard Jalaney was there. 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:51.679 Right. 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.159 You know so that program had been in the lull like a they had a big down period. 00:52:56.239 --> 00:53:02.400 So we kind of got it back back like you know bubbling a

little bit and then he's taken it even further since then which I salute him for that. 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:25.280 So that's kind of how that story came about until like you know I wanted to branch off a little bit just because timing wise it takes a lot of time uh and I was elevating in my other role at that point uh for the last company I was working for I was promoted to the regional head of fitness uh for the entire state so at that point I'm like listen like this is a lot like they only paying so much and you know it's only so much time I could devote to it. 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:34.320 Yeah so I turned it over to him and it was the right decision because you know for me I don't want to put myself in a position to where people are looking at me saying like yo you're not doing a good job with the program. 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:40.800 So you know and I walked away from it like knowing I made the right decisions because it's getting in great hands now. 00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:41.840 Right, right for sure. 00:53:42.159 --> 00:54:11.679 Yeah yeah I'll be honest um not even knowing because he started following Ava's Instagram page okay and I he might be trying to throw the object I run her page so I see everything but not knowing a lot of the girls that were there knowing you know what he had going on there you know not even you know not knowing you at the time because but like I said that was something we really consider for a quick minute like oh shoot man Smyrna's actually cool school is right here. 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:30.800 If she ain't liking where she at right now trust me like let me know it'd be a little a little bit shorter drive for you too it would be a very much shorter drive good people's knows how to develop like you know and he he instills the proper like principles in it for like we like you know a lot of the shit he he does now is shit that like he kind of saw me do earlier and I was just figuring it out. 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:36.639 So it's not to say I was like the best coach in that way but like we kind of set the tone and he's been running with it since then. 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.039 So like I support him in everything he does. 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:43.039 So you know if you got to make that jump like this is one one phone call away. 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:54.719 It'll be a thought one phone call away um but off the sports parents stuff because I know you know that might get us in trouble with the with the DI double a or some type of shit for collusion or what they call it. 00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:18.480 Yeah that kind of shit but uh moving into you know the next piece of the conversation which we kind of talked about a little bit on our first uh interaction and it brought me to knowing you was coming to sit down today I'm like I kind of want to dive more into this on this mindset because when I first met you the first thing you said to me well one of the first things you said to me was that like it ain't no like

kind of gatekeeping vibe over here. 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:40.880 And I don't know if you knew that resonated with me heavily at that point but it kind of opened up the doors for me to say all right this this motherfucker might be safe for me to like kind of you know open up to in that way pause but I'm like because I'm very and I know this may be a a drawback from my own personality but I'm very like standoffish we from New York bro so if you give me the wrong vibe out the gate like I'm not fucking with you. 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:51.840 Like that's just how that's just how I give it up that's that's I feel like that's how you got kind of like it's we in New York you get so many people around and interactions that could or can't happen. 00:55:52.000 --> 00:56:00.800 And like I feel like the vibe is always just you gotta come off as standoffish so that nobody tries to do some shit to take advantage of you somebody trying to fuck with you. 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:08.880 It's just so like I've had enough therapy about it to understand like our upbringing kind of put me in that mindset and that's with everything in kind of life. 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:37.440 So when you said that initially I'm like all right he must have been around some like some gatekeeping that shit like I mean that's a little bit a little bit for sure I mean and funny enough uh quick stuff side story of talk about being standoffish I'll never forget when I first first moved out here literally the first week I'm getting in my car so I was living with my with my pops and my stepmom when I first moved out here I'm getting in my car and they live in a nice neighborhood the next door neighbor you know it's it's space out here so the next door neighbor ain't right there. 00:56:37.599 --> 00:57:06.079 Right right you know she's a little bit a ways away but she sees me getting in my car she's getting in her car and she looks at me and waves I turn around and look behind me like you waving at bitch I don't know you like that like my like that was the thought in my head and then I was like oh shit bro you're not in New York no more this time to wave back like hey how you doing got to disconnect that that's just talking about what you like that's just the the vibe you kind of gotta have out there I feel like to protect yourself. 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:30.719 No facts yeah you know yeah a lot of my shit comes from that mindset like protection so I do understand that and even more so in the fitness space or just the training space I feel like it's kind of whack just because we live and operate in a space that's so dependent on having people to be successful that everyone feels like they need to keep as many people as they can for themselves. 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:39.920 And that to me is always going to be a mindset that I don't want to operate with just because I believe what's for what's for me is for me. 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:53.039 And the people that are going to gravitate towards what

I do, the people that like what I offer the people that will like support me, you know, to keep my business up and running and then again like bring more people like you said before like it's just gonna happen from doing good work. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:53.679 Right. 00:57:53.920 --> 00:58:00.159 So I always am a someone who's like I keep a close eye on people when it gets to that gatekeeping shit. 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:25.840 And it happened even when I was back doing like the skills training thing here when I first started and it kind of turned me off from doing it here just because and I I feel like it's everywhere but even in this space being someone who is a quote unquote out of town or not from here like you kind of have a disadvantage because when everybody gets so gatekeepy and like you know we're gonna keep ours with ours like that's where it gets kind of corny just because you could be cutting someone off from an opportunity to really help them in the long run. 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:34.079 You know just to say that like I kept this client or I kept this player or I kept this one person uh just because I needed them versus like letting them go to somebody else. 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:41.280 Like I've referred like multiple people out who are my clients is just to someone else just because like I don't feel like I'm in a position to help you best as I can. 00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:51.199 So let me you know tap somebody else in who I might have a connection with whom you may be closer to you know as far as traveling distance right to where it's not that big of a deal for you to go right there. 00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:58.800 You know so for me like I always am mindful about people who operate like that just because you know I try to stay away from those as best as I can. 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.960 But again like work with and collaborate with the people that aren't like that. 00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:10.719 For sure man I'm big on like I I can't train everybody if I wanted to in my space. 00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:37.840 Yeah like there's too many like there was there was like one or two other when we first opened like other like sports performance spaces in the direct vicinity and one of them have since he he closed down but I think he like moved to another space where he's sharing a space a little bit smaller space or whatever there's another guy and like kids will tell me their teammates train there and their teammates are saying that the person they train with you know I ain't saying no names but shitting on you. 00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:43.039 Yeah and I'm like bruh first of all I don't give a fuck about what y'all doing over there. 00:59:43.760 --> 01:00:08.239 Second of all I know I'm better like and and for and for from my perspective you know speaking for myself speaking for my wife like I know I'm the best I feel like we're the best but I hope you feel that way about you and what you do as well because that that's just how you should

I feel like that's how you gotta carry yourself so that you can keep trying to push yourself. 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:31.119 Like if I'm gonna say I'm the best or I'm gonna feel like I'm the best you got behind I gotta stand behind and I better put the work in to continue to be that but you sitting there talking shit through the kids like what I don't like when it gets to the the clients and the the kids then it's you know I'm all cool with like competitiveness and say like I I'm watching someone what what someone else is doing. 01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:31.360 Right. 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.400 And not in a hater kind of way but like okay like that's dope. 01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:49.039 Let me level my shit up so I can try to get there at some point too but you know I'm never gonna make it a thing to where I'm telling people like don't go work with him don't go like because that to me is where it gets corny and then you pitting people against again like is let the people make the proper decision for them. 01:00:49.519 --> 01:01:17.440 Let them make the decision for themselves what works for them what works for their family for sure because I'm like I see it often where like bro you're training a five star athlete four star athlete they're gonna be good with or without you yes like show me the one or two star athlete show me the trash kid that you got to D1 you know that's the real development like and a lot of these guys get by off of that like you got somebody who's super strong or super fast already and it's like what you add into them is valuable. 01:01:17.599 --> 01:02:01.840 Like it's not to say that you know discredit what anyone else is doing because if you get a kid who's stronger fast already anything you're doing with them is just going to add to the overall capabilities you know or an athlete who's super skilled in their sport like if you know if you are one of those kind of guys and yeah whatever you're doing the extra shots the extra drills like it's gonna help them you know but certain athletes are bound for the path that they're on anyway you know yeah and I'm like just because you got like this one particular facility is like he's got a bunch of like you know high level good looking athletes on there and I'm like oh only the trash kids train the house of champs I'm just like bro you're letting a bunch of guys come in for free to train that are already high level athletes which is dope. 01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:17.599 Do that train them but sitting there shitting on us and what we're doing it's like yo I could point out a number of one star athletes or not so athletic kids that we helped get to take yeah take that next step and get to the next level and it's like I'm not sitting there shitting on nobody else. 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:59.119 Like I said I'm gonna feel like I'm the best and that's and that's the part of it that and that's where the real like credit goes to facilities or trainers with like it's like who can you make better

like actually you know and not make better as far as like you're just adding that little cog to whatever they're doing to make them a little bit better but who can you actually start from zero and get to 10 like that with and go by the step by step progressions and see them get better on a year to year to year to year the basis you know and that's to me where the real development comes into play and the guys that kind of stamp they like stand their feet on that and are stamped in that way I salute them just because it's like you like you said you you trained a bunch of kids for free and they already good anyway. 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:17.840 You're just doing this shit for either a look or you're doing this shit for views or like but you know who can you actually make better and I think that is valuable to have those players and like you said you train a couple for free just because you know you know they the ones that's gonna get more eyes on your facility eyes on what you're doing but you know the ones that really need you are the ones that are going to stay around the longest. 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.119 Because those athletes they up and going they're gonna train with the next person anyway. 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:27.519 As soon as they get that opportunity they're gonna jump in here and here and here and once they find the one that's like better to them than you you out there you're like you done. 01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:27.920 Yep. 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:36.639 You know so and then you got to find the next athlete like that and the next athlete and if all you know for training is the people that are already good then like who are you actually developing? 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:37.199 Right. 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.000 And that's the part for me where it's like the whole gatekeeping shit. 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:43.840 The people that do that shit the most are the ones that are like that. 01:03:43.920 --> 01:04:08.480 You know you're hanging on to a bunch of great kids gifted already you know all right so I just have a thing with that you know especially out here and just in general because it doesn't exist just here but I do feel like the the states where sports performance and the athletes are like they turning athletes out on a year-to-year basis like those are the bigger markets where again it's not about like keeping all the kids for yourself. 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:17.039 It's like they can have great options to go everywhere you know exactly and then you can bring as many in from your like area as possible or do what you do with them. 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.480 But for me it's like always like the rising tide it lifts all ships. 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:35.360 Like if people got great options all around then we shouldn't have to worry about you know who's training where this is that whatever because if the priority is health and wellness if the priority is sports performance and it just becomes a staple in your area then from there

they just need places to go do it. 01:04:35.440 --> 01:05:19.360 You know exactly so I'm all about the collaboration I've always been and you know saluting people like you who are of the same mindset you know and even more saluting people who are of the same city just because you know we both share a a a similar background with our sports fandom uh we in the midst of a a a very interesting time for our New York sports we got a little bit let's let's talk about it you know before we head out of here yeah uh from your sport that you you know specialized in and came you know up in the game in our New York City Giants like what do you think about where we at right now as far as the the path forward in the season we're in the it's been a wild year before you go it's been a very wild year we're not even halfway through it so I I I need I need to check in with somebody else. 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:34.239 It's an interesting year right now obviously not having the guy as your the starting quarterback that you anticipate having but there's also a reason why before the season started they extended Jameis Winston. 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:42.480 They gave him an extension for a reason and if you look across the board across the league he's gonna be one of the better backups that you find. 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:48.880 And I think most people who really pay attention to football would know and understand that but you also know what you're getting with Jameis. 01:05:49.039 --> 01:06:05.440 He needs a couple weeks to get the engine running that's why the first couple weeks was a little it was a little rough but in the same breath now you got to think the offensive coordinator the guy's been calling plays to Dart strength, he now gotta flip and understand that Jameis's strength ain't dart's strength. 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:11.039 So now I gotta call certain plays for Jameis that I that wasn't necessarily called for Dart. 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:33.920 So now to get to his strength and what he does, and we saw it the last you know couple weeks where it was like, okay, you let him drop back, you let him throw the ball 35 times, yeah, you might get a pick or two, but you're probably gonna get about 250 yards, 300 yards, and a couple touchdowns, and you're gonna be in the game. 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:35.039 I'll put it like that. 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.239 You're gonna be in the game for the most part with Jameis. 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:43.039 So long as he's not, you know, doing a little bit too much. 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:47.119 And granted, you know, well, I think it was the Cardinals and the Commanders the last couple weeks. 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:51.039 The schedule's gonna get a little tougher as the season progresses. 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:51.519 It is. 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.679 We got about one more week of this sweet shit, and then it's gonna turn up. 01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:04.320 So but I will say the division doesn't look like the Cowboys and yeah,

the divid the Cowboys and the Eagles don't look it's sweet right now. 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:06.800 They don't look like they're they're gonna dominate the division. 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:09.440 By the time this is out, we're gonna know how it goes this weekend. 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.480 Because you know, by the time we release, these games will be played already. 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:14.079 But we got Jalen Hurts out. 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.159 So it ain't like, you know, we not we not in the running. 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.519 No matter how it spins, next week we'll still be first place. 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:22.400 Yeah, facts. 01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.199 So especially after last week where ain't nobody win at all. 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.199 Like that was the wildest shit ever. 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:32.239 Dude, I was watching that game and I was like, yo, I can't believe this dude fumbled, and then they did that shit. 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:37.840 I was like, bro, what the f terribly executed over time by both organizations. 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.440 I look, I'm not gonna shit on our Giants. 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.199 A fumble happens in the crucial moments, it happens. 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.679 I think that was play caller note too. 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.639 And I understand, I mean, it does happen. 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.119 It does have you know more about football than I do. 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:58.639 I was I'm of the mindset that I'm happy that we have like a competent coaching staff. 01:07:59.039 --> 01:07:59.760 For sure, huh? 01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:00.559 For sure. 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:07.920 So for me, at that point of the game, I just thought because like you said, fumbles happen, you know? 01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:08.320 Right. 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:14.719 And I know we were trying to get into field goal range, but I think uh there will there might have been a better play out there for that moment. 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:24.560 We were already in field goal range, they were just trying to run the ball just to keep getting closer, because remember, the kicker had just missed two two, three field goals already. 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:24.800 Right. 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:29.600 So they're just trying to get closer while trying to protect the ball because once again, Jameis is the quarterback. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:37.199 So while he was hot, continuing to have him throw the ball, you might have a Jameis moment in there where he turns it over. 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.000 So I think I I'm not mad at the play call. 01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.039 Like I said, I honestly think I don't think we did anything wrong. 01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.359 It just sucks that Scat fumbled. 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:47.520 I think that's just the it just sucks that he's gonna be. 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.800 And it's rare, so I guess it's just a fluke moment. 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.720 So but what they did on the other end, even more egregious. 01:08:54.880 --> 01:09:02.319 That was so egregious because it's like it's on the coaching staff because nobody had a sense of urgency once he did what he did. 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.239 Jaden Daniels wasn't supposed to do what he did. 01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:07.600 Jaden was supposed to throw that ball out out of bounds, and then they would have been fine. 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:14.399 But then once he did do that, no one had a sense of urgency, which lets you know none of the coaches said anything about what the fuck needs to happen. 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:18.479 If yeah, you know, so regardless, I'll take the tie. 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.359 I'll take the tie, I'll take the time moving forward. 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:22.800 And I think I I don't know. 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:24.960 I think we get I think we get this next one too. 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.119 Well, by the time, like I said, we'll know how it went. 01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:28.640 Oh, yeah, we got the Saints this week. 01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.319 I mean, the Saints coming to us. 01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.840 Uh, I like the Saints being coming outdoors. 01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:35.359 So change this thing. 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:35.840 For sure. 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:40.640 And hopefully it should get a little more frigid for them over the next couple days. 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:41.680 So we're gonna see. 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:50.399 Um will be over by the time release of this podcast, too, but you know we gotta give it up one time and still round applause because we're still loving off the fair. 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.960 We got opening night coming up for the boys. 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:53.680 Let's go. 01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:54.560 That's what I had to. 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:56.880 I didn't even come out here in the house and shut on purpose. 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.560 I had to come out here rapping JB. 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:03.520 When he pulled up the night, I knew it was the real thing that we had to have a conversation about, man. 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.560 So hundred percent. 01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:13.119 I'm I'm about tired of all these Philly niggas that's just living off the preseason, and yeah, you see that that first game, we beat y'all about 30. 01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:14.079 I'm like whatever. 01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.239 Like, nigga, what are you talking about? 01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:17.600 Who cares? 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:20.079 They so they so amp that they got LeBron. 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:25.279 Like, yeah, I feel like they just can't, everything is like the one the scrimmage, the open scrimmage that they had. 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:30.319 Yeah, I'm like they had to put it in the freaking arena because you know they usually had that shit at the field house. 01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.039 I'm like, who the fuck cares about scrimmage highlights? 01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:39.520 My boy sent me some scrimmage

highlights, and I was like, nigga, this is a scrimmage, an inner squad scrimmage. 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:41.439 I don't care about this. 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:42.720 It's preseason. 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:44.319 I don't care about this. 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.239 They could win open tonight. 01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:48.399 I don't give a fuck. 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:52.319 We could be the eight seed, we could be in the plane for all I care. 01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:55.920 If we make the fucking playoffs, then talk to me. 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:04.319 Because after you win it, and that's what I said to my boys, I was like, the people who care about preseason are the ones that ain't got no playoff and championship aspirations. 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:05.199 Talk about it. 01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:05.840 You feel me? 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.479 I'm like, yo, let us get to the playoffs. 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:09.920 We could be a role team. 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:10.960 I don't care. 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:16.479 If as long as we're fully healthy in a series, let's rock. 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.000 I mean, I'm not that mad at how we're looking, honestly. 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:24.479 Like, it's still the preseason, so again, all that shit goes out the window, especially for the champs. 01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:34.159 Because if you made that long of a playoff run to then go into the summertime with all the media hype, and nigga Jalen Brunson gotta do SNL, he gotta run here, he gotta run here. 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:41.199 Cat is here and there, OG looking like he's high everywhere he goes, just because he like he gotta be out and about, like you just won the chip. 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:46.800 Right in the biggest city, in the biggest market for sports, like that shit takes a toll on you. 01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:53.039 So we ain't really like we ain't going into this season in our best like form right now. 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:54.319 I don't feel like, you know, right? 01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:59.920 And failing just came off the hand injury, so we got a lot of shit to overcome to get to game one. 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.600 Um it's gonna take a little bit for a and I don't even know. 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.760 I'm gonna just say it probably's gonna take us a little bit for it to get the engine running back the once it's gonna be. 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:09.199 In a better conference now, you know. 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:09.760 Right, for sure. 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:11.199 The East is gonna be a gauntlet. 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:12.000 So it is. 01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.359 I do think that it's gonna be more of a challenge to be top three. 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.279 I do think we still come out top three in the East. 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:17.760 For sure. 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:23.920 Because that Miami shit down there, looking at it more so now in the preseason, I ain't really too confident of what they're doing down there. 01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.319 Clay can't buy a basket still. 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.319 So I don't know what's going on with him as one of the greatest shooters in history. 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:35.119 But, you know, outside of that, we still gotta worry about Toronto and the whole Kawhi Leonard shit. 01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:36.800 Philly is Philly. 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.399 We got to put respect on them just because the collection of talent that they have. 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:40.880 Sure. 01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:48.720 I don't really see anybody else outside of that that we cannot beat in season and then beat in a seven-game series when the time comes down to it. 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:57.520 What I'll say is as it pertains to Miami, Toronto, I don't think even Boston I could throw in there. 01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:59.600 I don't know if I trust their depth. 01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:00.560 Boston, bro. 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.960 Yeah, I don't know if I trust their depth to be able to run with us. 01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:08.000 They have no play in Boston after the whole Jalen Brown. 01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:13.359 Like this whole Paul George and J like Jason Tatum thing, that's gonna be a wild experiment. 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:14.960 It is, it is. 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:20.479 And then the thing about the Knicks is I trust our ability. 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:22.800 Like you might be able to beat us in one game. 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:25.840 I don't know if you can beat us in best out of seven. 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:27.279 You gotta do it seven times. 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:33.840 Because the way I watch JB analyze and get better as series plays out. 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:35.520 Like, look at that Spurs series. 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.920 He started off where it was like he he was getting his shots off, but he just wasn't. 01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:53.439 Husting him game one and two, like bad, but it's like, but and that's why you have a P uh a player like Kat, because it's like JB wasn't that great one in games one and two, but that's when Kat was killing, right? 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:57.199 And he was figuring it out, and then came game three, he played better. 01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:58.479 Game four, he was even better. 01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:00.159 Game five, it's time to close it out. 01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:03.840 On your head top, he figures it out, and then same thing. 01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:15.119 Like, I'll be honest, going into the season, I didn't have that much trust in Mike Brown as a coach, even early in I was like, okay, he's solid, but I felt like he was a lateral move from Thibodeau. 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.640 I felt like he was where it was like a good but not great coach. 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:25.680 Okay, somebody who can get you into second round of the playoffs, maybe conference finals, depending on the matchup, but not help you win a chip. 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.159 Okay. 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:32.479 Although he does have

that experience that he got from being with the Warriors, obviously being with the Spurs or whatever. 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:33.920 Mike Brown is a good coach, man. 01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:38.880 Yeah, look, man, I'm gonna give him his credit, I'm gonna give him all the credit in the world after what it did. 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.359 And it did look shaky at the beginning of last season. 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:51.119 I ain't gonna, you know, it was at a point where his head was, you know, maybe on a chopping block right after that that cup when they had the freaking the terrible spell of games that they went through. 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:54.479 Like, I do think that there was some trying times for the team last season. 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:54.880 Right. 01:14:55.039 --> 01:15:01.279 But I do think that they proved that that kind of system, that kind of coach, that kind of roster could work. 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:13.600 Because the NBA is so talent dominant that it's hard to imagine a team with Jalen Brunson, who is uh at this point maybe a perennial all-NBA player the rest of his career. 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:14.720 Maybe we'll see. 01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:15.039 Right. 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:29.359 You know, but I do think having that be your top guy and then a bunch of, like we talked about earlier, like the ancillary pieces, the people who are not really that highly touted on the NBA level, to come together and play like that to win a championship in that fashion, too. 01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:32.000 Like we dog walk and shit the rest of the playoffs. 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:37.279 We getting rests, we closing these series in four or five games, so it ain't we ain't gonna make it a thing. 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:42.960 So I think that that kind of system and then that culture that they've built is gonna carry over to this season. 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:43.760 Absolutely. 01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:49.359 I was a little bit upset about you know, us losing big mitch, but now the wiseman, like they just signed him. 01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:51.439 I just saw today, they signed him for the rest of the season. 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:55.359 They let go um my man who's on the roster, Bruce Brown. 01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:57.680 They let him go so they can sign Wiseman for the season. 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.159 I know they were trying to find a way to keep both of them. 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.079 Yeah, but business is business. 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:08.319 Bruce Brown is a, you know, he's a consummate professional wherever he goes, but I do think we need it big because the NBA is big. 01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:09.119 So 100%. 01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:14.880 I'm not mad about that signing because I think Wiseman has something to prove this season after the way his career has gone so far. 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:16.800 Um, and I think it'd be motivated. 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:19.840 But I think we got a good chance to run it back and be top three. 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:20.560 We're gonna see. 01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:22.000 Opening night is coming. 01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:27.359 And uh if we lose, I do think it's a possibility that it happens just because it's ring night, bro. 01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:27.760 Right. 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:28.960 It's just a lot going on. 01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:39.039 Kind of like game three, where it was like it's so much pressure on those guys, and it's such a big hype that it's like there will, there might be a little bit of let down because there's so much hype. 01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:45.920 Game three in the finals where it was like the most expensive ticket, like it's a lot of shit to that, especially in the garden, bro. 01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:49.119 On the Loto, I hope they raise the NBA Cup banner. 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:54.239 Because remember, after we won the cup banner, it wasn't it said they wasn't gonna do it because they had their mind. 01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:57.439 Yeah, they were like they had their mind on the on the main banner. 01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:58.720 We got the main banner now. 01:16:58.880 --> 01:16:59.760 That'd be some fly shit. 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:00.640 We need the weekend. 01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:02.880 Exactly. 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:03.600 Yeah, exactly. 01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:04.800 That'd be some fly shit. 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:06.239 I don't think about that, but yeah. 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:09.840 Yeah, bruh, because I'm like, I don't know if we're gonna see somebody else do that for a while. 01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:13.039 I mean, maybe whoever does it this year, but I it ain't gonna happen. 01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:18.960 I don't think so neither, because it's like you gotta be locked in for that amount of time to do both, you know. 01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:20.239 But we'll see, man. 01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:21.359 Yeah, it's on the way. 01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:22.399 I'm looking forward to it. 01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:25.039 You know, I'm getting the calls from all the Philly people that I know around you. 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:26.159 Oh, you want to come watch the game? 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:27.039 It's open at night. 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:36.079 I'm like, yeah, nigga, when the last time you called me, like you want me in-house with you, so you can beat us, and then you talk shit to me that way. 01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:38.000 So nah, I ain't with that, you know. 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:39.359 But I might pop out. 01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:40.239 Maybe we'll see. 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.520 But looking forward to the NBA season, the rest of the Giants season, you know. 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:43.920 Yeah, man. 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:45.840 We're gonna support our teams to the end. 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:46.319 Facts. 01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.439 Um, so with that said, man, I do appreciate you pulling up. 01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:51.920 Want to give one more big round of applause for pulling out. 01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:53.199

Appreciate you having me. 01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:54.960 Like I said, man, it's been fun, man. 01:17:55.279 --> 01:18:09.359 Every time we create conversation, create collaboration, I'm all for it and give you a chance on you know my platform to whoever I'm I'm in front of at this point to highlight other people that I feel like are dope uh and in the space that I'm in right now. 01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:11.600 You know, it's a it's a no-brainer for me, man. 01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:12.800 So appreciate you pulling up. 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:13.680 Let's do it again. 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:17.600 Um, so as always, man, when we live, and we got shit to train for, actually, too. 01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:18.640 We got shit to train for. 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:19.680 We do, bro. 01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:26.079 You did, and we ain't talk about this earlier, but you know, you you got me in, I'm on some demon time shit right now. 01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:26.479 Okay. 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:27.760 I seen I seen the sprints. 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:28.399 I ain't gonna lie. 01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:29.760 Like I'm on demon time right now. 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:34.880 That day we did a and we'll I think we need to set a date and we need to hit up Lavelle. 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.760 I'm hopefully having them looking to have him on the podcast sometime soon. 01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:43.359 I haven't officially reached out, uh, but we did see each other recently in person because I know he's gonna be opening the space now. 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:43.760 Right. 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.119 Like right down the street from me. 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.680 So I saw he was getting a space in Middletown. 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:48.000 Yeah. 01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:55.039 So, you know, it's it's gonna get interesting out there, you know, and it did kind of put me in a space to where it's like, I like, yeah, let's do it. 01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:55.680 Let's work. 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:07.680 Yeah, because I know their mission and I know, you know, him and his wife, what they're doing to try to create like uh awareness around health and wellness for sure all around the state, because you know, the whole blue state thing is a thing. 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:17.359 Like I think that Delaware has some work to do, you know, in order to get to a place where as a as a community, it is more of a prominent health and wellness like state. 01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:18.560 So I support that. 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:19.680 But he be right down the street. 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:22.159 So I did see him and having him do the apex, you know. 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.359 He ain't come to the one we did, but you know, he did the official apex. 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:27.039 We're gonna run it back in the spring. 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.640 I don't got an official date yet, but I've been telling everybody we're running it back in the spring. 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.560 We gotta pick a date to actually do one though, because I'm like, I'm for real about this shit now. 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:35.279 I'm 40. 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.520 I need something to like keep me going and keep me motivated and get me back in line. 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:45.119 Like, you know, my fourth quarter challenge was my members that kicks off to, well, it kicked off today, but officially Monday. 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:50.800 So I got my members in line, and like I'm now looking to get back on like some real like demon time shit. 01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:51.680 I'm I'm waiting for that. 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:59.600 And in a different way, because you know, I'm a basketball player, I'm 6'8, my body is not anatomically suited to do a lot of these things well. 01:19:59.760 --> 01:19:59.920 Right. 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:05.359 Uh so it's really just trying to see how far I can push it, you know, and and make it a thing for my own personal life and goals. 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.199 But we do got some training to do. 01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:18.159 Yeah, I do plan on reaching out till we can start to, you know, organize some some whether weekly, monthly, whatever we gotta do as far as like getting together and holding each other accountable for the goals we want to set out and put out there. 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:18.800 I'm with it. 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:20.960 Like, I ain't you know, I ain't about to talk with that. 01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:28.720 Like, we we're gonna talk about some shit, we're gonna set a date, we're gonna do it, and we're gonna represent, you know, our area, our space, and show that collaboration is a thing. 01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:32.399 And you know, we go take on the the big wigs from wherever they're at, you know. 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:33.199 Let's get it, man. 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.920 I got a few of my guys that popped out that's saying the same thing. 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.279 They're looking forward to the next one. 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.600 So listen, man, we we got we gotta set it up. 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:42.319 But my I gotta get my sprints together, my stars. 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.840 I just have my homegirl, she's a track coach when I posted a video earlier. 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:46.079 Yep. 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.000 She's like, yeah, there's a bunch of things I would have just said. 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:50.720 I'm like, yo, tell me, you know, I'm coachable in that way. 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:53.920 So, you know, I'm looking to get to it as we go forward. 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:56.399 But do appreciate you pulling up, man, 100%. 01:20:56.880 --> 01:20:58.640 We'll collaborate more as we go forward. 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:07.039 But as always, as we leave you today, we will tell you to stay safe in this crazy world, guard yourself mentally, physically, spiritually, and all things in between. 01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:13.520 So until the next go around, man, episode number 92 of the EFS Podcast is out with my boy Dave Lewis. 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:14.319 Peace.