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He's going to sit down and the three of us are going to go through three rounds a mock draft for the Commanders. We're gonna do it twice, once where we take an offensive player at the Commander's top pick at number seven, once where we take the defensive player. Just kind of see how the board lands. But first, it's all about the DB's, specifically today the cornerbacks. 00:02:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was one of the things you got freshman with is we're supposed to do the corners and safeties. 00:02:46 Speaker 4: I just did corners, and I yeah. 00:02:48 Speaker 2: I texted you this morning because I saw your list. I was like, I have a feeling you didn't do safeties as part of the DB's. 00:02:54 Speaker 4: And I was like, I did not not. Yeah. 00:02:57 Speaker 1: Well, also because I think it's this this is one of my pet peeves so like when we did tackles right and it's like, hey, let's do tackle ranks and guard ranks together. 00:03:06 Speaker 4: Like that's kind of that kind of works right to me. These are so different. 00:03:10 Speaker 1: In terms of position, Like I even wanted to do, like I want to do perimeter corners, nickel corners, and safeties, like that's what I wanted to do. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: Because you texted me that. I think my response was no. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: No, not do that, but like that's how I wanted to categorize it for my brain. So like mixing up like this was really hard. And I will say, man, like I cursed your name a couple of times this week because I watch probably more film of this group. Like I enjoy watching online, I enjoy watching receiver, enjoy watching tight end, running back, defensive line, linebackers. I enjoy that this this is why I get paid to watch this position. I don't like watching this position, and I'm gonna tell you why, Jason. So for some of these guys I would watch, I'm not this is not an exaggeration. I would watch four games, so between fifty and seventy plays, and I would watch a guy you know, have one PPU three tackles and that's and it's just like the sample size for these players is so small, like the amount of actual football corners are playing in a game is solo. And that's not to say that it's not a really important position. It's not really hard. It's just the sample sizes of data you can gather are so small. Like think about offensive lineman, Like you watch one game, you get seventy snaps of meaningful, actionable film to watch. To get that for a dB, I have to watch almost two seasons worth of football, which is crazy to think about. 00:04:27 Speaker 2: The other tough thing with them is you can't get fooled into just watching their highlights either, oh my gosh, because again it's just their high so you don't see any of their lows. And they'll stretch all that together. You're like, oh my gosh, this guy is awesome. And then you go in and you watch more and it's like, oh, well, he doesn't tackle, he misses a lot, like yeah, yes, three interceptions. He also gives up five deep balls. Like it's just one of those things where you have to like just spend time. I'm going to tell you right now. For me, just a guy I don't have also I'm a producer, so like, I have other things that I'm doing other than just grinding film. 00:04:59 Speaker 3: I know you do too, but this was this is a slog. 00:05:02 Speaker 2: You have to watch so much, and I'm going to say that I picked one or two games for these guys and most of my evaluation is going to be based off movement skills. Yeah, And that's kind of it because I can't go in and be like, oh, well, he's a ballhawk, Like I'll. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: Look at the stats. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: Six interceptions, Okay, he's a ballhawk, right, That's what I'm going to say. But I don't know if those are tipped balls in some games. I don't know if those are overthrown right to them and he misplayed and it just happens to me. I don't know because I didn't watch every game for this guy, or every interception for this guy, or every PBu. I just watched one game, got the movement. So that's the direction I'm coming from. I know you watched more, so you're gonna have a little more nuanced. 00:05:40 Speaker 1: I watched more, and again, like, I don't know if it's going to help me or hurt me, because usually I like my process is I like to watch as few plays as possible, get a feel, and then kind of watch the rest. To get a feel in this, I had to watch like three games, which I don't like. I don't like stringing all these games together because like, where there's a couple guys in here, one guy specifically comes to mind. I watched one game and I was like, this dude's amazing tackles well, very physical, awesome terms of anticipating route concepts. Then I watched another game and he was terrible, and I was just like, so, now what do you do with that information? So I watched a third game, and it's somewhere in between. So it's just the more film you watch some of some of these guys, the less clear it gets and the more nuanced and more granule it gets. So to me, like it was, it was just very It was very challenging, and I just wanted to make sure we said that before we started watching. 00:06:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, now a little peel behind a curtain here we're doing We're gonna do safeties and the other times. The reason I lumped those together is just we only have so many broadcasts, we only have so many episodes. I want to get them all in like, so we're going to add safeties into our schedule somewhere down the line. But that's why I wanted to lump. So that's why I look tackles and guards. I started lumping because we just it's a long time. 00:06:47 Speaker 1: So I'll say this too, like I would I would almost prefer Jason in the future for the future time we do this show if we did like linebackers and safeties together, because like there's just less film to like dilute, like I'll do I'll do ten safeties and toen linebackers. That'll take me, you know, probably twenty hours. This took me, Like I

feel like forty hours this week. Like my computer is like, are you okay? Do you need a friend? Like it was it was tough to get through these song. 00:07:10 Speaker 3: And that's not a bad idea. Maybe we'll do that moving forward. 00:07:13 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do we haven't done linebackers yet too, we'll put them in there, all right. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: Anyway, so let's get into it. 00:07:19 Speaker 2: We're gonna do our top ten dbs and then we're gonna do some honorable mention something I want our fans listen to. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: You're gonna do something now that is kind of like a blog that's going to support what we do here. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: You're gonna have we're gonna get cooperation with Selby, who helps run o the website and the app for the commanders. And basically what you're gonna do is when we hit our honorable mentions, we're gonna do some open notes. You're gonna take your literal notes that you wrote for these guys that are kind of farther down in the draft as far as where they'll go mid to late rounds, and it's Logan's notes. So go on the website find his honorable mentions for DB's and get his notes on these guys that are deeper and even on draft day if we draft a dB in the later round, if that's something that happens, back find the article, get a little right up from Logan on it and see where he what he thought of him after he watched four or five games, and to get a feel of them. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: Get to watch to get four tackles. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, anyway, here we go. So the top ten. This is always confusing to me of how to actually do this. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, let's read just ten to eight like I'll do my ten ten nine and eight. You do your ten, nine and eight. We'll see where we line up. If any of us has a guy that's higher, we'll wait to do that guy there. 00:08:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, love it. Let's do it, all right. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: I'll start. No one cares about me, We'll wait for you. That's called a tease in the business. So number ten Keith Abney the second, he's from Arizona State. Number nine Devin Marshall from z State, and number eight Brandon cc CSA from South Carolina. 00:08:48 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:08:49 Speaker 1: So I have Brandon cs as my number five, but I have Keith Abney, who's in your thing there at eight, and Devin Marshall he was being my honorable mentions. 00:08:58 Speaker 2: Probably all right, k soh do we want to start since we have kind of overlap here, We'll start with my nine. Give me your ten, nine and eight because you have Abney at Yeah. 00:09:09 Speaker 1: So David is it Davison Igbinosen from Ohio State, John Candy from No Jadon is that? 00:09:20 Speaker 4: He said that? 00:09:21 Speaker 3: Sure? 00:09:22 Speaker 1: Jadon Candy from Oregon safety nickel kind of player, and then Keith Abney from Arizona State. 00:09:28 Speaker 2: All right, so we're going to start with my Devin Marshall from into state, right, Okay, can you said he was an honorable mention. 00:09:35 Speaker 1: For you, honorable mention for me. So when you cut the film on man, I think he's a pretty good player. Like he's instinctive, he's pretty physical at the catch point. I think he's got a good feel for kind of playing the deep ball. All of those things are very positive. I think the one thing that I took away from watching the film is I just wasn't sure about the type of athlete that he was. And so he's five eleven two hundre pounds least, that's what he's listed on the team websit, and again like very solid. I think he was very competitive as a tackler. He forces runs well, so that means like when a blocker is coming to get you, like he's always keeping his outside arm free, he's forcing it back to the other guys. He's willing, he's good at diagnosing screens, like all of those football kind of IQ things are there. In terms of checking boxes, he had a bunch of PBUs to star. I think he had sixteen PBu something crazy like that. Like he is a good football player. I think the thing that got me kind of unsure is like there's times where he just looks a little bit labored when he's running the change direction, the clicking clothes isn't quite as good as some of the other guys. So I think I got a little bit spooked in terms of what the actual role is for him. Like I was like, man, maybe he'd be a better nickel player than he would be a perimeter player. We're going to talk about a couple nickels here in a second, but good football player. 00:10:47 Speaker 4: I think he's a solid piece to your culture. 00:10:49 Speaker 1: But again, the athlete got me a little bit concerned there, because again, at the NFL level, those guys got to be kind of top shelf athletes. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:10:56 Speaker 2: The other thing is he's five to eleven, two hundred, so he's not big big I would say, So here's here's a little bit of stats. You know, I think all these I want to say it, but it's worth pointing out sixteen pass defenses this year, sixteen forcing completions according to PFF. That's second in college football, even though he's a smaller guy at five to eleven. I watched Florida State, and he had no problem. 00:11:20 Speaker 1: We killed Florida State. So I watched Florida State. Also like that was by far his best game this year. And again like there's a little bit of the quarterback at Florida State kind of some air and throws poor ball placement. But that's not to take away from him and his production because he did a really good job. 00:11:33 Speaker 2: There, right, And why was he successful in those Well, he instinctively can break on the ball, excellent hands, getting in late to break up, and he's not afraid to be physical. Yeah, but obviously his size just stands out. He can be overly aggressive. And I'm going to say this as you were saying, like the athlete thing here, I put not super explosive in the speed I have questions about. So that's why he's at ten for me because I love that he's kind of like the

spark plug like player. He plays with a certain type of attitude and doesn't really care in a way like, oh, you're a bigger guy. Like against Florida State, he lined up against Deuce Robinson who's six' to two twenty two, orright, sorry six six twenty two and Like i'm five to eleven, Whatever i'm going to just Be i'm going to be a little gnat and. 00:12:18 Speaker 3: Just be a problem. 00:12:19 Speaker 2: THERE i don't know where he's going to land in the draft because of the physical things you're talking about the athleticism that he may not, have BUT i like the. MENTALITY i like that he's proven that five eleven isn't really a thing. There So i'm putting him at ten because there's he showed me he can do. It now it's at the college, level but he showed me that's the size for him isn't a big. 00:12:41 Speaker 1: Issue, YEAH i think that this is a really good talking point for the rest of the position because he talked about movement skills and, again LIKE i think the play was very, Good like we talked about the tackling the FOOTBALL iq kind of understanding. Concepts but there's a labored ness to his movement AND i think that's the thing that makes me, go, like what is his actual? Ceiling like could you ever start in THE nfl because of your? Athleticism And i've seen corners that have kind of mixed, athleticism but they've never quite broken into that starting you, know you know nickel perimeter group in terms of defensive. Back so to, ME i got like, this if if we grabbed him like in the fifth round or even in the fourth. Round if we had a fourth round, Pick i'd be, stoked BUT i just there's a little bit of risk there because of the athletic. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: Profile all, right let's talk about my ten and your number. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: Eight this is where we have the, overlap and It's Keith abney to second From Arizona. State i'm just going to start by saying. This he was one of my favorite. Watches, dude so really fun. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: WATCH i think the thing is, like SO i cut on The Texas tech tape AND i was blown away because they Got Caleb douglass. There they Got vigors the receiver From Texas. Tech both guys are really, dynamic and he was physical and. Press he showed good movement skills in. 00:13:48 Speaker 4: Zone he was very. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: Instinctive it's important to note he's also small on the smaller five ten. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: Right he measured at the. 00:13:55 Speaker 1: Combine so the other measurement for you, Know Devon marshall was that's from the school. Website the combine measurement For Keith. Abnue he is really. Important AND i just, thought, like you, know like one of my favorite things is WHEN i see a receiver run a dig and at the top of the. Dig THE dB undercuts the dig because they feel it based on the route Stem like he did a really nice job with. 00:14:14 Speaker 5: THAT i. 00:14:15 Speaker 1: LOVE i love with THE dB when they're like, competitive like shit, talking like they're just like that dog.

MENTALITY i love that from, Him and So, logan you love him so? Much why is he h raid on your? List then you cut on The Arizona State arizona tape and had a really hard time with some kind of some stems kind of undercutting. Stuff the guys are running. Post he's way behind his way off. Schedule AND i think there was just like a little bit of inconsistency to his. Game like the good was very, good and WHEN i first started, this he was in my top. Five but the MORE i, LIKE i, said the MORE i watched to, him the MORE i was, like, Okay like there are limitations to what you. Do you're a very good, player you're very. COMPETITIVE i love kind of how you approach. This but the, size some of the, instincts the deep playing the deep ball down the, field this side showed up a little. Bit SO i was, LIKE i like, you BUT i think you're probably a little bit farther down the. 00:15:05 Speaker 2: List, YEAH i MEAN i saw the same. Thing he can get caught on double. Moves he sometimes has, short choppy. STEPS i think that get him in. 00:15:12 Speaker 3: Trouble very. 00:15:13 Speaker 2: Aggressive sometimes that's, great sometimes that's. Bad the other thing is is he's. Grabby, NOW i know a lot of guys are grabby at the college, level but this is thirteen penalties. 00:15:24 Speaker 3: Grabby, yeah, right that's a. 00:15:26 Speaker 1: Lot and SO i, think, like again just a double click on What jason said there for people at, Home like they LEGISLATE pi differently in, college so DB's in college are just generally way more. Gravy but, again like that is something that you notice with him. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: Also so here's the thing, THOUGH i love his mentality as you were talking. ABOUT i love that aggressiveness now what it looked like to. Me And i'm going to steal. THIS i can't remember WHERE i heard it. From i'm going to steal. This analogy is that he's like a batter that is waiting for that fastball right down the. Middle you just wait for and if he gets, it he is swinging for the. Fence and you mentioned like undercutting some routes and. Digson if he thinks that's a fastball down in the, middle he's going to take the chance to go grab that. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: THING i kind of like that. 00:16:12 Speaker 1: Mentality SO i will say, this like one of the things that you'll see this reflected in my list later, on IS i love instinctive players AND i love hyper competitive players at this. Position Like Fred smoots talked about this a, Ton like when we talked about DB's in the. 00:16:25 Speaker 4: Past it's, like you have to have the right. 00:16:27 Speaker 1: Mindset so WHEN i just see a dude who's just like a dog, competitor because that's what you need for it from A, dB, right just a just a junk yard dog. Mentality and it's different than an offensive. Lineman but like it's okay IF i get. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Burnt you Remember Nate, Robinson, Dude, yes basketball, player that's what this. Is he's a little, undersized but, man does he get under the skin of the? Opponent is he? Aggressive does he? Attack like it's just what he's Like. 00:16:52 Speaker 3: Robinson. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: Yeah and, again like there is some Like i'm glad you talked about the, short choppy. Steps there is some hip titness with him which doesn't really show up on turns and, trendsition but like when he's getting out of like his tea cut for, example or like breaking on a, route you feel like he's taking maybe one extra. Step BUT i think he's a heck of a football. 00:17:08 Speaker 3: Player he's an exciting. Player, yeah but it's. 00:17:10 Speaker 1: Just there are there are some concerns, there and that's why he's number eight for me and number ten for. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: You so talk about your number, ten Davidson Igman. 00:17:20 Speaker 1: Nosen So i'm going to tell you right, now LIKE i had a different player. HERE i Had mohammed From texas here BECAUSE i was like kind of infatuated with the. Length he's six, foot he's got thirty two and a half inch, arms AND i was watching his film and he was the guy THAT i was talking. ABOUT i watched four games of him and he had ONE PBu four tackles and like that was it and the game just never came to. Him BUT i was, like you see the movement, skills you see the, fluidity you see these great, turns like when he's kind of covering these backside posts and things like. That here you talking about right, now he's From. Texas i'll get you the name Right, oh. 00:17:50 Speaker 3: You're not talking About. David you're talking About mohammed, Wilkeson, Yeah i'm going to find him. 00:17:54 Speaker 5: Here. 00:17:54 Speaker 4: Yeah so he Was. 00:17:57 Speaker 1: Malik muhammad From, texas so he was actually in this. Spot and THEN i went and this is how this is how DESPERATE i, Was. JASON i went back and watched all The Senior bowl reps again AND i saw him just kind of have no instincts In Manda man coverage AND i was, like, Okay so THEN i had to go. Through and THEN i Watched David igbinosen from The Senior bowl AND i was, like this dude is, long he's, tall he's, competitive he's physical when he, tackles, LIKE i think he's A i. 00:18:24 Speaker 4: Think there is There he's ten for. 00:18:25 Speaker 1: Me SO i don't love him because there's some stiffness he grabs a little bit, Right but in terms of the competitor and in terms of how he handled the one of the ones at The Senior, bowl LIKE i, thought this is a dude That i'm just going to give the tick mark. Too because there's a lot of guys that we're going to talk. About the couple guys on your on Your honorable, mention a couple guys for me that are onble mentions as well that really struggled in the one on ones at The Senior, bowl AND i, thought, like that is that is an offensive. Drill and so For igbinosen to go in there show what he did to be as productive as he was At Ohio, STATE i, Thought, Okay LIKE i can live with. 00:18:55 Speaker 4: THAT i can live with the spare. 00:18:56 Speaker 2: Time, yeah measured in at six two one ninety, three so

pretty good size. Air he had thirty penalties in his. CAREER i don't know what to make of, these, because like you, said in, college they just regulated. Differently and if you're getting penalties in, College i'm kind OF i don't. 00:19:10 Speaker 3: KNOW i just don't know that is. 00:19:12 Speaker 4: Impactful. 00:19:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well and that's the other thing, too is like he, is he's very. 00:19:15 Speaker 3: Gravvy. 00:19:16 Speaker 1: Like SO i went back and watched these reps of The Senior. Bowl these are the best dbs in college football from last, year some of, them, Right And i'll be damned if every single one on one there wasn't a penalty, flag, Right, Like it's just it's part of how they play the. Position it's like why you see those viral training camp camp clips of Like Sauce gardner with oven mints, on because in THE. Nfl you can't PLAY dB this, way so you're it's you, know you talk about offensive, line how offensive lines of. Projection at least they're still playing like the same. Sport like With DB's it's completely. Different so with, him he's very. Gravvy he's a little. Stiff BUT i like the. MENTALITY i like the physicality that he plays. WITH i think he has got some good long. SPEED i think he timed pretty well IF i remember, correctly at the. Combine so, yeah he's a tenth guy for me because because of, that more because of the mindset than anything. 00:20:01 Speaker 3: Else and he does look the, part oh he. 00:20:02 Speaker 2: Does he's got the long, arms he's got the good, build like he has that. There and he's also pretty scrappy and will assist in the run. 00:20:11 Speaker 4: GAME i, think, YEAH i like that about him for. SURE i love that about. 00:20:14 Speaker 3: Him so all, right let's do your number. 00:20:16 Speaker 1: Nine uh that Was oh my number nine is Uh Jadon candy From. Oregon so this guy was kind of a laborer love And i'm probably way higher on him than a lot of, PEOPLE i would. Say so he played, safety he played, nickel and he played perimeter corner At, oregon right and the organ's defense man with those secondary players Like Dylan thineman is an absolute. 00:20:36 Speaker 4: Psychopath like that guy's so. 00:20:37 Speaker 1: Fun to, watch but he's kind of in that back end mix for, Them so really fun player to. Watch AND i thought, like here is kind of the modern iteration of A nickel. 00:20:46 Speaker 4: Cornerback. 00:20:46 Speaker 1: Right he can play safety if you need, To you can play in the. Box he's aggressive, Downhill he's got kind of this, predatory you, know running to the. Football and the thing that really separated him to me from like the Other nichols in this draft, class one in particular is the guy From. Miami what's his, name Uh Keante, scott So. Kanty scott's like this, downhill, blitzing aggressive. 00:21:08 Speaker 4: Like run Fit. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: Nickel the REASON i Have candy above him IS i Think candy's a better cover. Player they put him in man coverage a little bit. More they put him on number one wide, receivers AND i just love the flexibility he. Brought, now is he a perfect? Player, No, like there's some times WHERE i guess it was against, You. Dub he's covering the. Slot he kind of breaks on this like what he thinks is a. Seam the guy breaks out he's a falling. Down it's kind of, messy BUT i think overall the positive coverage, grade the flexibility brings the, defense and then just the general mentality were. Something we're some things THAT i liked about, him and to, me it's you talked about the movement, skills the, flexibility the, fluidity And i'm gonna go back to the mindset where things THAT i really liked with this. 00:21:46 Speaker 3: Player, well let's talk about number. 00:21:48 Speaker 2: Seven then let's move there my number seven, Yet, scott you just talked about From, miami who's five to, eleven one ninety three that he weighed in. At my big question for him is, like how fast are you? Really he didn't run a forty, yet so we're now quite, sure AND i THINK i can see at times like that speed isn't quite. 00:22:05 Speaker 3: There but, man is this guy a. Dude that's WHY i love. 00:22:08 Speaker 2: HIM i think he absolutely brings this aggressive hard play style to the table despite his. Size he plays with great, twitch burst and. Speed just a missile as a, blitzer really good blitzer and for his size, again really nice hard hits with Raps LIKE i love corners that can tackle, Right they're not just lawn mowering, low trying to cut at the ankles they come. Up they're aiming for your hips to wrap and drive you into the. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: Ground he does. 00:22:39 Speaker 2: That NOW i have the same thing you, said struggles and covers right THAT i gets. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: Grabby he's number twelve for. 00:22:48 Speaker 6: Me SO i like this fire a lot but. 00:22:49 Speaker 1: Easy but he's an. Animal but so WHAT i would say is like this is where like scheme fit becomes so. Important so if you're going to prioritize a run fitting kind of, nickel like think About Jeremy reeves this year at point where he's kind of playing the buffalo nickel for The washington, Commanders like that's what he. Brings i'm gonna. BLITZ i can set edges on tight. Ends i'm not afraid to mix it up with an offensive. Lineman i'm gonna talk a little bit of shit Like i'm gonna get after. You but, like don't ask me to cover if anything but zone. Coverage i'm a little tight in the. HIPS i can't turn and run the same. Way i'm, built like in a muscly linebacker type. Way and again he's an older, prospect he's twenty. Four he's gonna be twenty five this, year like a little bit, older but like the, physicality like the. Mindset it's JUST i Think nickels have to, cover especially now with how much eleven personne they're. End so that's WHY i gave the edge To Jadan candy. 00:23:35 Speaker 2: There and you mentioned that when you were playing With Kyle, shanahan they scheme up runs to go for a. Corner, yeah, right we're gonna

leave you the unblocked. Player you have to go and make a. Tackle so important. 00:23:47 Speaker 1: These and so and especially like now like with These nickel, players like the like so that's like perimeter, corners, right you got to tackle as a perimeter. Corner like these guys are in a different cut in terms of the demands from A nickel, Player like you're fitting like big, boy you're fitting, guards you're doing all this. Stuff so that's where like if you have a system like that Where Kiante scott's got to be in the box and do, STUFF i love. That but, again like if you ask them to, cover Then i'm gonna, Move i'm Gonna i'm gonna air to the side Of candy because, again to see a guy who Played nickel played the, post played the perimeter and did serviceable at all areas like that FLEXIBILIT i think is. 00:24:20 Speaker 2: Valuable all, Right i'm gonna say my six and my five, because, Uh Kiante, SCOTT i think that's how you. 00:24:25 Speaker 3: Say Kiante scott. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: From miami was my, seven and we got some overlap. Here so my six is D'Angelo ponds From, indiana and my five Is Avion trell From, clemson and your, seven six and five. 00:24:37 Speaker 1: Is, yeah my, seven six and five Is avianterrell From. Clemson D'Angelo ponds is my, six And Brandon cisa is my, five who we talked about. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Earlier, yeah so we're tied with our. Six we both have D'andro, Pond so let's Do. Avionterrrell i'm higher on, them you're a little lower on, them but probably by splitting ears, here so let's talk about. 00:24:55 Speaker 4: Him, yeah it really was just like a split of the. 00:24:57 Speaker 1: Hair like you know what's funny IS i watched The Wrong guy the first time watch the, film SO i ran my right up AND i was, like, man this guy's, Terrible like what's going? On and THEN i went back and watched the like you, know rocks the right guy AND i was, like, man this guy's pretty good football. Player SO i, think so this is HOW i described, this HOW i describe. Him he's like he's a little bit, smaller but he's got really superb, footwork so like he kind of is like this perfect slot coverage, Player like just the feet are incredibly. TIGHT i THINK i worry a little bit about the top end, athlete you know WHAT i, mean in terms of like that that sounds that's the wrong way to put. That in terms of vertical, SPEED i don't know how fast he, is, right and which makes. Sense he didn't run the. Combine he looked awesome in the field, work in the drill. Work he's got great bald. Skills he attacks the line of. Scrimmage he's a good, blitzer like he is a perfect. 00:25:42 Speaker 4: Nickel. 00:25:42 Speaker 1: Right so he's a little bit ahead Of candy for me BECAUSE i think he's got more natural. Athleticism but, AGAIN i think there are some. Limitations if you, said, hey, man we want you to play perimeter, CORNER i don't know if he's got the horsepower to do. 00:25:53 Speaker 2: That brother the Aj trureut just a little side note. THERE i love his athleticism in his, Length his hips are pretty smooth and but for whatever, reason his eyes can be really bad at times and just gets out of phase because he's not paying attention to really what the wide receiver's. 00:26:07 Speaker 3: DOING i don't know what he's looking. 00:26:09 Speaker 2: AT i don't know if he thinks he knows what the route concept is going to, be so he starts shading to go for the ball or. Something but he'll straight up just lose a guy for reasons that are kind of. Inexplicable and he's a much more reactive player than a proactive player in the sense of what he's doing to what the wide receiver is showing. Him so and that's WHAT i, Mean like maybe he's trying to guess what's. Happening he just drips away Like i'm not quite, sure but he. Can't he just has a really bad time like understand understanding what is happening in front of him and then being aggressive towards. 00:26:42 Speaker 3: It he waits for something to. 00:26:43 Speaker 4: Happen, yeah before he takes an. Action do you give that some? 00:26:46 Speaker 1: CONTEXT i do think, that like the nickel position in college is especially reactive because you're a lot of the stuff he's dealing with is LIKE rpo, Stuff so he's in the. Runfit but he's also in, coverage so, Like i'm sure the coaching point for some of this stuff is like waight see, it then go you know WHAT i? Mean AND i, think, like BUT i. 00:27:03 Speaker 2: Hear what you're, saying but the Way i'm describing, It like he even does this in the run game where he's hesitant for the. Tackle he stands and waits so instead of Like i'm going to get. 00:27:12 Speaker 1: It so, AGAIN i think he's a smaller. Dude, Right he's got a little bit of Like Honey badger to his. GAME i don't, know like everyone Thinks Honey badger is. 00:27:18 Speaker 4: Like this great. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: Tackler he never was like a great, tackler, Right he's always kind of a, passive like not a thunderous human. BEING i think he's the. Best he's the best when he's kind of like got a free, run got free, access he can cut your legs. Out like, again he's one hundred and eighty six. Pounds he's not a big, dude so like he's like a slight. Frame you see him next to the OTHER. dB he's not a big. Man so those are the things about him that but it's the it's the footwork it's the. Upside it's the coverage instincts THAT i. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: Think, yeah that's what it. Is the smooth, hips great closing. Speed Gary, athletics. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: Stays low in his. Stands, yeah he's like he does a lot of really good technical. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: Things, well like if you were to, like, hey like here's a cutup of like PERFECT dB, footwork like that's kind of what he does For. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: Yeah also excellent name for A dB. Avion all, right let's talk about The Angelo ponds rim and we both have him at. 00:28:05 Speaker 1: Six, dude this was maybe my favorite player to watch in the whole. Thing, Man like he is an absolute, dog like just a

junk yard. Dog like he is in the, tackle like he is in care like you're running down, hill you're a big. Back he's gonna throw his little body in there and get run over and get up and just talk like face mask to face mass with. You like he takes on offensive. Lineman he's instinctive in. Coverage, LIKE i love. HIM i love. Him he's one of my FAVORITE tbs THAT i. 00:28:32 Speaker 3: Watched he's five to. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: Nine, yeah that's why he's number six for. Me so like, again like people like, logan what's going. On he's five, nine, right and like they just the history of those guys playing at a super high level in THE nfl are not super. High but, LIKE i think he's good in, coverage like he had a forty one inch vertical at the. COMBINE i think that shows up in his lower half, strength like when he has to accelerate out of a break or, something like he's able to rally and match. STUFF i also think he's pretty instinctive in terms of his. Vision but, yeah it's the size for me that really a lot of pods because it's not like he's five nine and what is? Weight he hat his weight, There, JASON i. Do, Yeah so he's like, Small he's like a small, person AND i just it makes me a little bit worried because like THE nfl is such a big man's. 00:29:12 Speaker 2: GAME i, mean aggressive as all get, out stays in phase pretty, well a tax ball. Carriers he's a, finisher like he is a football, Player. 00:29:20 Speaker 1: Like if he loves playing, football if he'd be bare of my number one. Corner AND i know that sounds, silly but like that. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: It plays in. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: COLLEGE i don't know if the size will play in THE. Nfl he's a little, Concerning, yeah BUT i love. 00:29:31 Speaker 3: The mentality and like he's not, uh he's not bad at. Anything, NO i think that's the. Thing he's just really. 00:29:37 Speaker 1: Consistent and you, know we talked about the, mentality like no player encapsulates the mentality better to me Than Dangelo pons in terms of what it means to be A. 00:29:46 Speaker 2: dB all, right do you want to talk About you had him higher than, Me brandon From South, Carolina so you can start off because you have him at, five him down at. 00:29:57 Speaker 1: Eight and again this is really more of like just a size and strength. THING i think he's. STRONG i think he's got good. LENGTH i think he's pretty physical when it comes to like line of scrimmage. PRESS i think he's got a great top end gear to, him, Right like he can really. Run he didn't run at the, combine but he's, fast AND i think the thing about him IS i think he's pretty. Good, underneath there's a little bit of like Like i'm gonna, say reactive. Stiffness and WHAT i mean by that is like when you look at ponds With, gatterrell like they're so fluid to move to the football. Right ses doesn't really have. That and the thing that really got me a little bit. Concerned is like WHEN i got he's, fast he can stay in, phase he's got long, arms but when the ball's in the, air he panics a little. Bit like he reminds me a little bit of Like Marshawn. Lattimore like he's really, handsy he's really, grabby and like there's this move That Nick harber From South carolina ran where it's like a slant and go and he does a great job turning. 00:30:52 Speaker 4: Right he's running with him and then he. 00:30:54 Speaker 1: Just gets lost a little bit to the ball and the ball ends up getting. Complete it Wasn't Nick carber that think of actually different player they Get Fromssissippi, state but it was the same type of. Thing like the balls in the, air he's in a goo, position he's just late to play the football ends up being. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: Complete like SO i wrote down that his body control looks a little below. Average it's like there's something there where it's not quite lined, up. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: Like he started to cut. 00:31:16 Speaker 1: Off he reminds me of that dude that like you go play pickup like he can jump hy and run, fast but you go play pick up basketball with, him and it's a little bit like of a spas you know WHAT i, Mean, like that's what he reminds me of a little. 00:31:25 Speaker 2: Bit, Right, no that's a great way to describe. It and he's not super consistent Rep the REP i think bothers me a little. Bit, yeah he just doesn't track the ball, well slow and recognizing and then the weird kind of almost uncoordinated like movements when the ball's. There BUT i, mean let's talk, positively but it's. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: Not BUT i think that's the interesting thing about him is it's like he's coordinated and then the balls in the air and then it's. Not it's like a Pan it's like there's a panic to. Him and again, like well i'm talking To. Fred i'm gonna Give fred his flowers. Here but like he was, saying like one of the number one things he looks for is like how you track the football in the, Air and again like he's he's gonna be is going to be in the right. Spot the ball tracking is a little bit, concerning which is why he's down the list for. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: Me, well he gets after it in a run game, too, Right and he's an explosive. Athlete the, length the, strength he has really nice long. Speed as you were talking about he can keep. Up he didn't, run BUT i suspect he'll run pretty. GOOD i JUST i he's the frame length and the athlete is. Worth, LIKE i think we can coach him up on this ball skill type. Thing or maybe he's just never going to be a big ball. Producer he's just gonna he's just gonna be a guy that gets his hand in, there breaks it up and is in the right. 00:32:37 Speaker 3: Spot and that's very that's. Valuable. 00:32:38 Speaker 1: Yep, NO i think that's one hundred percent, Right AND i think it sounds like we see him very. 00:32:42 Speaker 3: Similarly, Okay i'm gonna do my four and. Three. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: Yep i'm just gonna do, four, three two on one because we have all these guys just different, orders all. 00:32:51 Speaker 3: Right so my four Is Colton hood From. 00:32:53

Speaker 2: Tennessee three Is Chris johnson From San Diego, state Not San Diego South Dakota. 00:32:59 Speaker 3: State, sorry, no, no, no is it San Diego SO i WROTE Sd? State. 00:33:02 Speaker 2: Sorry number two Is Mansor delane FROM. Lsu and my number, one which is good you're GONNA i know you're gonna push back on Is jamald McCoy From. 00:33:10 Speaker 3: Tennessee i'm not gonna push back onto that hard actually for being number. 00:33:14 Speaker 1: One, YEAH i mean we'll talk about it when we get. There so, yeah my fourdth my, Forest Chris johnson From San Diego. State jermond McCoy is my number, Three Colton hood is my number, two and mansword De lane is my number one FROM. 00:33:26 Speaker 3: Lsu who gets in the most choice that you want to talk? 00:33:29 Speaker 2: About, uh let's save McCoy and De. Lane, okay Either johnson Or? Hood which one do you want to? 00:33:34 Speaker 5: Do? 00:33:34 Speaker 1: Okay SO i like it a. Lot, again he's my number two. GUY i think the guy that gets me the most juice Is Chris, johnson to be honest with. You, Yeah like he's just silky smooth. Man like he just is got these great. Feet watching him at The combine was. Excellent watch him on the. Field to, translate he's not afraid to go. Tackle there's a tackle short yard situation versus Cal he's making two tackles for a loss on back to back. PLAYS i think you know there in The Senior, bowl his man and man reps were very. Good he's in, phase he's in close. Proximity he did get moss By Josh cameron From, baylor but he was like right in the pocket hand playing through the football was just a great play By. CAMERON i think he's a really good football. Player there are times WHERE i feel like his size against bigger receivers shows, up kind of gets bodied off the position a little. 00:34:20 Speaker 3: Bit he's six ft ninety, three. 00:34:22 Speaker 1: Yeah and kind of midsts measurables but not super handsy and which is unique for the college. Game AND i like everything about. HIM i think the reason he's looking like why is he number? Four if you like everything about, him he's number four because he went To Santo, state like he, like you're like HE'S i was like looking for, games Right so you're looking At Colton hood like they're Playing, alabama they're Playing, georgia they're playing you, Know South. Carolina they're playing teams OUR nfl rosters. Basically and the best team That Chris johnson played against Was. Cal so like no offense To, cal but they're not very good right, now you know WHAT i? Mean and so like do they have receivers that are going to? Scary so that's WHERE i get a little bit worried about his projection in THE. 00:34:59 Speaker 2: NFL i, MEAN i really really really want to like, him but the GAME i watched was cal BECAUSE i thought maybe that was the best. Competition he looked, great BUT i want to see, more, right but the level of, competition even though that's kind of. Scary the thing that's. Great great closing, speed even though he's not necessarily a, burner hips are super, fluid nice, Footwork he has really good ability to mirror what the ybcver is. Doing just excellent, act stays right with, him very. Sticky all, right here's the. Bonus attacks aggressively in the run game and as he'll wrap, up nice textbook. Report love. THAT i think that this guy could be like a top one to two round. Talent because somebody's going to, SAY i don't care about the competition. 00:35:44 Speaker 3: Thing i'm going to interview. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: You i'm going to get if you're a competitive person and everything you've if you're not playing against top, competition what are you supposed to do against? Him if you're dead dominate? Him and he did a really good job at, that. 00:35:56 Speaker 1: AND i think so there's no doubt in my mind he's a top fifty. Player like these these three guys are going to the four guys were gonna talk about all top fifty, players, right and, yeah they're good football. 00:36:05 Speaker 3: Players so all, Right Colton hood. 00:36:08 Speaker 1: So coldinhood is ahead Of jeron McCoy for, me just by a hair And i'm going to picking it. Here but like one of the things About coltonhood IS i you can tell he's really well. Coached so he comes to line of scrimmage every time he sets his eyes to the DB's. 00:36:20 Speaker 4: Feet he understands route stems. 00:36:22 Speaker 1: At are really high, level like really high, level so like he anticipates breaks really. Well he like you talk about inside, releases he understands the routes you can run off inside. Releases he undercut stuff as. WELL i just saw a guy who was like a pro from the mental side of the, game like just a, pro AND i thought he was pretty good underneath. Coverage there is some stiffness in his upper back which shows up a little, bit but he's got nice long. Arms and to, me it was the athlete coupled with the FOOTBALL iq and that was something THAT i was, Like, Okay LIKE i feel very very very confident in him and what he. BRINGS i kind of know exactly what he. IS i think he's physical as a tackler right for A. dB you know, WHAT i, mean like just to make sure it's all. Relative BUT i was, LIKE i like, that and again Like i'm this is an interesting conversation BECAUSE i could easily See jermal McCoy being one for some people Because i'm valuing things a little bit. Differently i'm valuing the anticipation kind of the, process the, professionalism AND i think With jerom, McCoy LIKE i could easily be my number, one but the upside there because the upside played with. 00:37:23 Speaker 2: McCoy SO i think McCoy could come in and within his rookie year be A cb two for a, Team like he's got that pro mentality that you're talking. About then tell me if you saw this About. Hood, sorry, yes, yeah, sorry McCoy's my number. One, Yeah HOOD cb two right like within his rookie season can be A cb. Two tell me if you saw. This hips can get a little sticky on the sudden movements and that's, Stiff, yeah a little, stiff

little. 00:37:50 Speaker 1: Sticky if you want to see a good rep of, that like go check out The senior ball where our guy From John carroll is running a comeback and you Know hood keeps running on the go Like. Montgomery, yeah like there's you see some of the. Stiffness you see this, limitation and it's, Like, logan why aren't you concerned about? That it's like he didn't have time to game plan these. Receivers AND i feel like he's better when he's got time to, prep which is a good and a bad thing because it also shows some of his his. Limitations but to, me the the mindset was correct for. 00:38:20 Speaker 2: Me, yeah really smart recognitions of, routes, concepts what's, happening, well attack the, ball, downhill good, mirroring really nice, speed like he has all the all the tools to say this is a high. 00:38:31 Speaker 1: Floor he's of these dbs to, me like he might be the highest floor guy outside Of mansword De, lane you, Know AND i just THAT'S i bet on. That but, again LIKE i Think jeral McCoy is an interesting. Conversation if you don't have that, conversation well let's. 00:38:44 Speaker 2: Do dura McCoy From. Tennessee he's six one Eight, logan he's only twenty years. OLD i think this is. Important, yeah he missed all of last year with AN acl so this is all based on tape from two years. Ago he is a you, KNOW i love these little little. Tidbits So i'm going to give him to you real. Quick former triple jump and long jump, champion, right who else was that for? US a triple jump Champion Santana Moss right shows explosiveness in twenty twenty three twenty four combined sixteen pass, defenses six. Interceptions he plays the ball really. Well, Look i'm gonna say a couple of things. Here you tell me if they're yes or. 00:39:21 Speaker 5: Not. 00:39:22 Speaker 2: Right, well first, off the way he, looks he's like the proto type build that you. Want all, right patient and then we'll just burst, right very fluid, hips smooth, feet great, mirroring great. Eyes he is smart enough to bait the quarterback in the wide receiver at, times AND i think that's that patient and that burst where he knows what's coming and he just slow, plays that doesn't get too, excited waits for the quarterback to make the, mistake and then just shoots as soon as he sees that quarterback draw back to go. There there's not MUCH i don't like about. Him that's why he's my number. One it's up for that. Aco but the REASON i put him at number one is Because i'm just a. GUY i have no stake in anything AND i can do. 00:40:06 Speaker 1: That, Yeah and AGAIN i don't think THE aso would bother, me but he. Hasn't he was invited to The Senior, bowl he didn't do. It he was invited to The, combine he didn't do. It so like part of me is just a little bit, Concerned LIKE i don't know if he's. Speckful, yeah where are we at with? It because again it's been a, year like a calendar, year and usually you're. Good So i'm just a little bit that's a little bit of a red flag for. Me and, again LIKE

i don't disagree with anything you said, There LIKE i think he's really good in press. COVERAGE i think he knows how to run with. RECEIVERS i think he plays the ball. Well the thing that just kind of got me a little bit shook WAS i think he relies on his athleticism a, lot which is, okay which is not a bad. Thing but, again like in THE, nfl like you, know you're going to have to develop a little bit in terms of like the other mental stuff WHICH i Thought Colton hood. Had and the other thing about him too is like in zone coverages as an underneath, PLAYER i feel like he gets a little bit high hipped and gets a little bit sticky when it comes to like breaking on, stuff so stuff will get completed in front of. 00:40:58 Speaker 4: Him he has to rally to. 00:40:59 Speaker 3: Tackle he tackles high yeah high yeah. 00:41:02 Speaker 1: Yeah and so, again LIKE i think that's where it's, like could you do everything? Right and, again man coverage is. EXCELLENT i think in cover three does a good job of like playing like between number one and number two kind of in the. Seam and he's made some plays, there, interceptions big, hits things like, that WHICH i. Love BUT i guess the underneath zone coverage stuff was a little bit concerning just from a movement. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: Standpoint maybe it made him look a little bit. 00:41:23 Speaker 1: Stiff BUT i don't know if you have this, player if that's something you want to, be is going to be overly concerning because you bring him because he's, like we're gonna play man, Coverage we're going to kind of have you play, Quarters we're gonna have you do some different stuff that would be good for. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: You so, YEAH i hate playing this game because it's, Whatever, AGAIN i can be, HERE i can do this because there's no like no one's coming back at me and being like you, idiot or maybe they, are but HIS aco, right like if he didn't. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: Have, That, YEAH i think he's a top ten, player. 00:41:51 Speaker 2: Right like he's got SOMETHING i wish he had this past season because the twenty twenty four tape was so. Good what if he had one more, year like he could be he could be that dude in the draft and we got robbed of. That he got robbed of. That BUT i think like he's got. It he's got like the star part AND i just THE acl, MAN. 00:42:09 Speaker 1: I, think and again the fact that it's taking so long is also a concerning. Element but, yeah a really good football. Player so for, me he's three because of the THE acl and because of the just a little bit of concerning about the underneath kind of short area, quickness which isn't it's not a bad, thing but like when everything else is so, good that's the one THING i would kind. 00:42:27 Speaker 3: Of GE's the one that sticks. 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Out, yeah all, right your number one overall Was mansword De lane FROM. 00:42:31 Speaker 1: Lsu, yeah AND i was really frustrated with him initially WHEN i started watching him because it's like they run so much cover three like where it's like you, know like The seattle cover, three we're just bailing out on. Stuff but AS i, WATCHED i would probably watch five games of. Him, actually the thing that came to the forefront is he's incredibly, instinctive like underneath his own. Coverages he's got really good. Eyes he like you talked about the baiting of the quarterback, Thing like he really can get a feel for route, concepts which is. Great like there's times where they're trying to pick him on like crossing. Route he knows how to play across like over the, top and he makes ends up making good plays on the. Football and the other thing about him WHICH i was really impressed with was the ball, skills like down the, field like we're trying to throw a go like we talked about cc kind of freaking out, Right he's cool as a, cucumber reaches, back plays the, football plays through the. HANDS i just felt like he was the most, consistent even Including jermond. McCoy, honestly just very, consistent very. Fluid is the ceiling as high as? McCoy probably? Not but is he A is he the best of the group right? Now and, YES i would say. 00:43:32 Speaker 2: That, yeah long, arms, yep, right that elite athlete kind of thing good at keeping his eyes on THE qb while not losing the wide, receiver which IS i guess speaks to his ball ability to track and stay with the, ball top end, speed hammer and, raps like not afraid to tackle and all. 00:43:52 Speaker 1: That he's not like a thunderous, tackler but like he's, good he's. 00:43:56 Speaker 2: Passable, yeah he's not gonna let he's not going to be passive and let just like he's going to get in. 00:44:01 Speaker 5: There. 00:44:01 Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think the other THING i heard from The todd McShay, report which is that show Top masha, does is like he got to talk with him and, like, yeah did an interview with, him and it was just like the compete and the toughness that he's that he's got to experience in the interview and that he's heard FROM, Gms like, yeah he just feels like in terms of LIKE dB prospect, again the ball, skills the, tackling kind of the feel for the. Game, athletically he's super, Loose like he he's really fun to. Watch he does get a little bit long with his steps and breaks and stuff like, that like when it comes to like chopping down doing your tea steps things like, That but there's not a lot to pick. Here worry a little bit at the, ceiling like is he maxed? Out, maybe but that's a small he could. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: Be a top fifteen corner in the, league like he's got The, yeah he's got kind of the ceiling to be. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: That, YEAH i think. 00:44:45 Speaker 1: So and again, AGAIN i really liked the. Film the ball skills were the thing that really put him on the top for, Me like the way he plays the ball in the, air. 00:44:51 Speaker 3: A local kid From Art Bishops school in high school In. 00:44:54 Speaker 2: Maryland, yeah it's just. Fun and then last, year according to THE, pff the

BEST qb pas against them or not the BEST qb the best corner with the LOWEST qb. Passway does that make? Sense so, yeah thirty one point three let's go through. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: Them which is a. 00:45:10 Speaker 2: Stat where if the quarterback just threw the ball into the ground every, time that's. 00:45:14 Speaker 3: Better than trying to test. Him no, Kidding, yeah because of the, interceptions, right it's you're at least not turning the ball. 00:45:19 Speaker 2: Over so that was last year just it was better to just spike the ball than the test Man sword De laine last. 00:45:26 Speaker 3: Season, okay so that was our top. 00:45:27 Speaker 2: Ten let's jump into some honorable, Mentions, Logan i'm just gonna lean mine. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: Off you just go after. YOURS i like your honorable, MENTIONS i, know but this is about. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: You we're already going. Along we Have selby sitting. Here but speaking Of selby the, website make sure you check it out with these honorable. Mentions you're gonna put your open notes here with these, guys so go. 00:45:44 Speaker 1: Ahead So i'm just going to read off a couple. Names we already talked. About Cante scott The nickel From. Miami Julian, neil who's one of your honorable mentions From, arkansas big long man coverage player little, stiff which is a little concerning and didn't do a lot other than play man. Coverage so that's something THAT i find and just a little bit. Worried So i'm, like how do you? Translate and then the other guy That i'm going to, Say i'm gonna say two guys here Is Delaine everett From. Georgia he's, big he's, long he's. PHYSICAL i think the thing that on film he's, good, right he's good in his own. Coverages he's pretty good in man. Coverage he struggled big time at The Senior bowl with like stop start, stuff which made me really. Concerned, Right so that was something THAT i was kind of, like, oh you, know like what's that? About but kind of fits the. Bill and then one of my most intriguing players of this entire draft class Is Tacario davis from Dub he's six,' four he's two hundred and, five pounds he round a four to four at. The combine he had a forty two Inch vertical like absolute freak show of a. Human BEING but i can't, Quit, him jason, because like, you KNOW what i love About the combine, is, tall long. Athletic FREAKS and i don't know if you're going to find a freakier guy Than To caario DAVIS. 00:47:01 Speaker 3: From udob speaking, of freaks we. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: Got it we Got exact selby he's here and not freaking the, negative term but. Just freakish of how much content you put Out on commanders. Dot com we need to make sure everybody. 00:47:14 Speaker 5: Jumps on it's gonna be even crazier because as we're speaking, in now the legal tampering period of free agency, is open and it has already been, some moves not, for us But ken walker reportedly ahead Of the Chiefs out pierce Staying. 00:47:25 Speaker 2: In, indye oh that's gonna be bad for a lot, of people mocking love To. 00:47:29 Speaker 5: The chiefs, yeah exactly which has been a very popular thing for. 00:47:34 Speaker 6: People recently, but, yeah no, that's. 00:47:36 Speaker 4: Exciting. 00:47:37 Speaker 2: Man yeah, All right so what we're gonna do is we're gonna do our first mock draft of, The, year selby thank you for. 00:47:42 Speaker 3: Joining us and we're gonna do, This. Twice shelby we're. 00:47:45 Speaker 2: Going to do, three rounds which means two picks where the commanders we're sticking, and picking no trading up or trading. Down yet the first time we go, through this we're gonna draft an offensive player. At, seven okay we're gonna do. It again we're gonna draft a decent defensive player. At seven we do whatever we want in the other but for, this one we're going to try and give both perspectives for. Our, fans, okay cool, all right is everybody ready to? 00:48:06 Speaker 3: Do? 00:48:06 Speaker 5: It? 00:48:06 Speaker 3: All right here. We go we're entering. The, draft well it's really just ripped. 00:48:12 Speaker 4: By. There. Huh yeah so, offensive, player. 00:48:15 Speaker 2: Yep we're doing an. Offensive player so here's. The order how, it went and it's hard for you guys to kind of. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: See that, i'm. 00:48:20 Speaker 2: Sorry but mendoza went one To, The Raiders sunny styles went two To, The Jets jeremiah love went To The, Arizona Cardinals rvel reese went To, The Titans david bailey went To, the Giants And reuben bain went To. The browns that actually seems maybe possibly realistic in the sense that these guys would be gone at. This point so that leaves us picking offense at. Number seven and. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: Where do you? 00:48:46 Speaker 2: First off what position would you be a player that you would go for here or a position that you would. 00:48:51 Speaker 5: GO for, I mean i feel like the only POSITION that i would want to go, for personally assuming that, you know nothing else really, happens today would be receiver because they need they need a thread out There besides. TERRY McLaurin, i mean there's Only. Besides Harry there's jail Only and luke McCaffrey on. The contract on a contract like that's just this is not gonna work. Right now you need, other playmakers need other other guys that can maybe bring, the speed other guys that can make some exposive plays. Down field so That's what i'm. Looking, at Receiver and i'll look and what are you? 00:49:20 Speaker 1: Looking AT so, i think obviously receiver is the first one that's gonna come in. To mind i'm sure some people are gonna throw out tight end With Like, Kenyon sadik is this? TOO high i look at, value HERE and i look at like what the free agent market is going, to YIELD and i look at the offensive line, here SPECIFICALLY like i Look At France smoi noa From, from MIAMI and, i, think like could he play? Left GUARD because, i Think like i've been reading stuff Recently That chris paul is about to make like twenty five million dollars

in, free, agency right like free maybe, Right potentially like that's like a, speculative, Thing right so if we need, a, Guard Right France smoi noah And Then van Guyoni From penn state are NAMES that i would just like to float Because what i'm talking about now is. Contract value, so like if the guard market is between let's say twenty and thirty million dollars in, free agency we will be saving as a franchise quite a bit. Of money when we pay this guy twenty, million bucks we save ten. 00:50:15 Speaker 3: Million dollars are you thinking at this Point Protect. 00:50:17 Speaker 2: Jaden daniels are you thinking best player available with the notion of what the value of. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: THE position i think it's best. 00:50:24 Speaker 1: Player best like so, for example, right now i Would Have francis Malinoa and van guyone rated Higher Than. Kenyan Sadik and i'm in the Conversation With carnel taate like the Receiver thing i'm playing devil's advocare a little, bit right like those guys are kind of THE bucket i would be looking at here because of how valuable those. Positions, are receivers the same type, of, thing overtight, end, over linebacker especially with the way the. Board fell, and again if we got to, go offense that's THE way i. Would, Go Again caleb downs, IS here i would definitely kick the tires. 00:50:53 Speaker 5: On that but so let me play devil's advocate to your devil's asage care and play a little double here in like you've we Already Got, brandon coleman who you drafted two, years ago and he would use a third round pick on Like With chris paul. MAYBE leaving, i mean do you not think that you want to give him a chance or are you gonna let? 00:51:10 Speaker 6: Him compete if that's why if you, draft. 00:51:11 Speaker 1: THEM so i want. TO compete i want. The, best like so this IS something i think people like who haven't maybe been in the building. Don't understand it's like you've, been here we, Drafted you we're invested, in, you Right but i'm not going to give, you, Anything right i'm going to make sure you have to earn. This OPPORTUNITY and, i think like if, this player if this, is hypothetical Let's SAY francis, i know is the best player on, my board number. One person it does fit a need and he's the best player on. Our board AND if i think he's a blue chip prospect at the, guard position Think About quentin nelson For, the colts, For example like he has been a difference maker for. That group and if you think, this guy one of these, two guards has this potential here For The, Washington COMMANDERS like i wouldn't even Mind Moving brandon coleman, A CENTER like i would give them a shot to try some of that, stuff out try different. Configurations OUT and i think about one of these, Big Nations steve malers Next To laramie tunzel And Then. Brandon coleman he snapped at points last year and practiced. Last, season like where does that? Take YOU when i look at that group across the BOARD and, i say that's got to be one of

the best, offensive lines at least on paper. In football and what does that do? For you, pass, protection plaction pass running the football. Elevates everything, So again i'm not saying we need to go, that direction but THAT'S something i just wanted to throw. Out, THERE again i think the pick here Is Probably, carnel tait but in terms of value for the dollar for, the pick offensive line is something we should do it. 00:52:30 Speaker 5: If IT'S an ap priority, for sure right and may if you look at the way that they've been able to protect want To Protect jane dana's at, All costs like that's where they put a lot of their investments in over like both the draft picks and in capital and draft picks and money and all OF their Stff With. 00:52:43 Speaker 6: Laramie TUNSILS so i hear you it makes. 00:52:45 Speaker 2: Sense, there well let me ask you a question then about the depth. Of position so in, the draft so would you say that wide receiver a, deeper class? Very, deep so but when you Sit At, Carnel Tate kay lemon And Then, jordan tyson you would put those in a tier and then kind of. Everybody else so are you getting a top tier wide receiver who is a position of? 00:53:10 Speaker 3: Great value would you really? 00:53:12 Speaker 2: Consider that and then the same thing with tight end in the sense of maybe the money isn't, the same but You Have kenyan sidik and then, Everybody else but the tight end position. 00:53:23 Speaker 3: Is deep but the gap Maybe. 00:53:26 Speaker 1: The titan positions crazy deep. This year so, TO me i would kind of be like unless we, felt, like Again If kenyan sadik is the, best player if you think he's a blue chip player and there's no other blue chip players on, the board then you take them like that's just how you. Do IT but i don't KNOW if i feel that way about him right now right talking about, the, Receivers like i'm kind of moving towards. This thing we haven't updated this on our drive Of the draft, show Yet But i'm i'm moving towards this perspective based on, the interviews based on, the workout based on, the Film That carnel tate isn't a tier by himself in terms of receiver right coming to the, Dark, Side yeah i'm moving, over there Right Because, jordan tyson his injury history. Was crazy his film, is better but the injury history. Is crazy we've heard there might be worse than people. Actually think And, McKay, LEMON again, i think is more of a pure slot. Type player but, You Know david blau has a good experience With i'se brian how to. Use THAT but I Think karnel tate's kind of in that bucket by himself at. The moment so, to me it's if we, were, Like, hey logan YOU'RE the gm For The, Washington, commanders like what are we? DOING here I think i think we could get a receiver at. SEVENTY one i don't know if you get an offensive. Lineman here there's no running BACK here i. Would take there's NO quarterback i would. Take here the list, is very very small in terms of offensive player. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: At seven so, in reality this probably free agency is going to matter so much with this type of decision what they do at the offensive line or receiver position or even, Tight, end like we'll probably make this decision easier come, draft day but unfortunately we don't have that, ability here so we have to make. A Decision has logan talked you into Offensive line selby or are you STILL feeling i need that skill position to Go? 00:54:57 Speaker 5: Across, TERRY yeah i definitely do hear on the offensive line. For SURE and i CAN'T even, i can't you can't over you can't understate the importance Of Protecting jayden daniels and getting yourself a really good. Offensive line that, BEING said i do look at Guys Like caronel TATE and, i think oh, my god like this guy could really shine. 00:55:21 Speaker 6: If they use him right in. 00:55:22 Speaker 5: This offense and, you know he might not be the number one, this year but like the, reality is, you know whether it's next year or two years, from Now wherever terry's that could be. You FOREVER and i think he could potentially be, if not like a very clear, air apparent. It could he's very much in the picture, for sure with the way he's able to make explosive to plays, down field his ability to, cat small, create separation all. Other stuff and, FOR me I just, I think I think i have to add. Another weapon, AND. 00:55:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, i THINK and i think when you look at the roster composition at, the moment like, you know you could probably survive on the offensive line with what you have at, the moment and obviously the difference maker in terms Of what Carl al tate, COULD bring i think would be. Really interesting so, you know like that would elevate the tight, end room that would elevate a lot of. Different positions, So Yeah i'm i'm totally okay. 00:56:09 Speaker 3: With, THAT yeah i mean six' three. One ninety one he'll be a nice. 00:56:13 Speaker 1: Compliment to, me look big like see, him in person man, At the combine, he'll, looks big big and he looked fast and like. 00:56:19 Speaker 2: Eighty five point seven percent. Contested catch rate so imagine two guys that just dominate taking the ball AWAY from The dbs in terry being, excellent at That And then carnel tait on, the other side like he's A TRUE ex like, i like that and then feel like free agency And guys like lane and McCaffrey can kind of fill in that slot role for. 00:56:40 Speaker 1: You OR signficitly if i think the depth, is really IMPORTANT and Like i, think zach said like you got to, think long term and again the play on the offensive line would be long. Term AS well but i do think this is it addresses a. More pressing Need. 00:56:52 Speaker 5: And, Like wall, also i'll say like wal like the the team interviews are obviously more important than the one would the with us of the media, Of the combine like you can tell when some players really buttoned up and whether they like they're able to handle that kind of situation from how they,

interview pretty well at least get a little bit. 00:57:05 Speaker 6: Glimpse of it and it seemed. 00:57:07 Speaker 5: To be Whatever listening to carnell like he's. He's, got it yeah he seems like a very much like a he's in for the culture. 00:57:15 Speaker 6: Kind. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: OF guy yeah i also like betting on wide Receivers out. Of ohio state they seem to be doing pretty. Well so, late all right so We're Gonna go carnell tate here. At number seven this is gonna take us all the way to pick seventy one. In round, three so guys what do you want? 00:57:27 Speaker 5: To? 00:57:27 Speaker 4: Do here yeah we were going, offense here too or how does we can do? 00:57:31 Speaker 3: Whatever? 00:57:31 Speaker 1: We want yeah so this is an interesting kind of conundrum of the draft board is big players are going, to be gone so, like offensive lineman it gets really thin. As you, go so obviously like if we're just, talking Here Right, like mike washington the Running back from. Arkansas Is INTERESTING elijahs hurrott i think is. An absolute stud and so if we had Gone Offensive, Line elijas hurrott i'd been. Doing backflips, right but again the board thins out changes quite a bit. In my opinion so another name that looks jumps out to Me Is like Grayson hilton from oklahoma as a pass rushing kind of three technique interior guy that can. Create Some, pressure sam rousch the Tight, END from stanford i think is, an absolute baller but seems a little redundant, With You know john bates. 00:58:14 Speaker 4: On the roster, so to me if. 00:58:15 Speaker 1: We're going here i'm probably looking if there's any kind of edge rushing We Go the ed, rusher ranking station. 00:58:20 Speaker 4: That'd be, awesome so yeah. 00:58:22 Speaker 2: Best available They Have as Ramelo, height From Texas task Kean, CRAWFORD From auburn Lt, Overton From alabama anthony Lucas From usc Malachai, Kamara From Indiana. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: Tyreek, sap florida. 00:58:34 Speaker 4: Man it's crazy how finn. 00:58:36 Speaker 1: That Group got like i'm not saying morell it's like not a good football player or, anything like that but like, you, think about oh like there's all these guys that we've Watched At, the senior bowl Watched At, the shrine bowl Gone to the combine and, watch, it like oh one of them. Will be There You know gabe yakis Or You know Zion. Young from missouri but those guys have done such a good job with the tree the. 00:58:56 Speaker 4: Pre draft process you're left with. 00:58:57 Speaker 1: ALL these players i Actually Like carry On crawford from auburn quite a bit as a pure, pass rush guy and he kind of fits this stand up linebacker three four elements you're going. TO bring here i Really Worry about ramelo height quite a bit as a PURE edge because i think you played last year at, two twenty five. Which is small he's also twenty, five years old a little bit of, an older player so it makes you a, little bit, concerned but good. Good football player edge seems like an

interesting way. To go here what about is? 00:59:24 Speaker 4: How about? 00:59:24 Speaker 2: Corner, we got yeah we just, talked ABOUT corners and i was going to bring THAT up because i think there's some good players here at. 00:59:29 Speaker 3: The, corner position yeah. 00:59:30 Speaker 1: We didn't Talk about chandeler rivers. ON our breakdown i think he's an excellent, like nickel player very much in the Mold Of like mikey sandrastill and so like DO you want i think that's something that makes this process Really hard to, zach is like what do you what does the new? Defense look like what do they? Want to value and what kind of players? Do we need and so that becomes really apm's a. Really interesting question and go to safety, Here, real quick jason safety is a deep. Group this year maybe there's a good ball. Player, FLOATING around. 00:59:58 Speaker 6: Well i think and you mentioned you know that the what that even's going. TO look like i. 01:00:01 Speaker 5: Think you know one thing that we do know is that there's gonna be multiplicity. In the system so you have to find a guy who maybe can play slot. 01:00:07 Speaker 6: And on the outside and do all his though didn't count. OF the responsibilities a. 01:00:11 Speaker 1: Name on here he's ranked one hundred. AND thirty THREE i think i don't think they have. Updated the Rankings His Blood bud clark jason like that dude is. An absolute baller. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Fifteen career interceptions now. Here's the thing he's been injured in, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two and. 01:00:26 Speaker 3: Twenty, twenty five dude he's, a. 01:00:27 Speaker 1: Stud though man like, His film's excellent like the way the way he, produces the football the way he tracks football, and the wear the way he covers and. Manda man situations he fits runs, Physically AND violently like i, Love This. 01:00:39 Speaker 3: Ballplayer man shelby he's a he's A. 01:00:41 Speaker 2: Football playing johnny you've ever Seen The, Movie everything Everywhere. 01:00:44 Speaker 6: All, at once oh that's one of. My favorite movies this is. 01:00:46 Speaker 2: How he plays he wants everything, all the time and he's just going. One hundred percent he, wants the, interception to tackle he wants everything. 01:00:53 Speaker 3: All the time he's just got that crazy red hot. Motor about him and. 01:00:57 Speaker 5: This is, definitely a position just like defensive back that could probably be affected by free, agency as well because there's some decent corners out there right now that could. Potentially, Be available now like to maybe switch, THE conversation up i do want to ask you about like the. Tight, End position yeah and there's A guy that i've been, been looking at like over the last few days or so. 01:01:19 Speaker 6: THAT real estates I Mean it's Max Claire. 01:01:20 Speaker 5: From. Ohio state yeah now he looks to me LIKE he's like i look at LIKE a modern nfl tight end terms of what he's able to like move in space and make

these crazy catches, Over defensive. 01:01:30 Speaker 6: Backs i'm like, oh my god this is were You? 01:01:31 Speaker 4: Watching? 01:01:31 Speaker 3: With, pdue yeah yeah. 01:01:33 Speaker 5: Yeah like that the Twenty four towar field film was much better Than Than the. Ohio STATE film BUT i think i look AT him, and, i say okay like this is this is the pass catching TIGHT end that i think a lot of teams. 01:01:43 Speaker 4: ARE looking, FOR i mean i think there's. 01:01:44 Speaker 1: Something to that he did put on a little bit of a way to have the state this last year and didn't look. 01:01:49 Speaker 4: Quite, the, same sure yeah. 01:01:50 Speaker 1: Which is interesting, so TO me like i kind of bucket him in the same Bucket As like Jack Injuries Or Justin jolly Jack, Juries From texas JUSTIN Jolly. From nc state like there are some really good players, down the wall even can sroll down, A, Little Bit Jason like Marlin klein from michigan is going to. Be A, stud diland bentley he is not going to be there at. One thirty five i'll tell you. That Right now NATE broadricker FROM a and m is an absolute stud when it comes to. Catching the Football So like joe royer is another Guy Transfer, From Ohio state pat cincinnati basically plays like big. Slot for them watching him a little, Bit more recently, like to me the tight end group like is good. Down the board so if you, want somebody Here Like, again max claire if you wanted to, go, that. Way great awesome Love, him at purdue a little Bit Lackluster. At ohio state but this Is one, where i'm like you could get someone in the fifth, in my opinion fifth or SIXTH round that i think would be. An absolute baller so as we had, Linebackers, on here jason let's seck a linebackers. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: Real Quick Dude, anthony hill junior he had a. 01:02:45 Speaker 4: Really good dude. 01:02:45 Speaker 1: They have not updated these so he had he had the second best, combine of anybody and. His film's good and so if you want like a rangy linebacker that can blitz, AND is fast. I, like that yeah that sounds like a good. Thing to me it just depends on what you think the. Value is here, AT seventy ONE i think. 01:03:02 Speaker 5: I still, THINK to me i feel if we're talking about, STRAIGHT up value i still think we got to find a way to get an. 01:03:06 Speaker 6: EDGE rusher here, i, MEAN think yeah. 01:03:09 Speaker 4: I don't know i DON'T know if i. 01:03:10 Speaker 1: Feel that way like that's, Why, to me like if you want to, take an edge you take, it at seven like we'll, go, defense FIRST sure but. 01:03:17 Speaker 2: I think there are good edge rushers down, the board too a Little bit like baby as far as, Like, the difference yeah, because. 01:03:23 Speaker 1: To me like The difference between romelo height and name, your Guy Here like Caden. 01:03:29 Speaker 6: Curry or llewellyn like they're. 01:03:32 Speaker 4: Kind of in. 01:03:33 Speaker 1: The same, BUCKET to me i get it because there's some limitations, to them now so it's too bad it was it looks like there was a, Run on edge. I'd probably go looking, At the sport I'd Probably. 01:03:41 Speaker 2: GO bud clark i was going TO say that i really want To Push for BUD clark because i think the mentality would fit here to just. 01:03:48 Speaker 1: The ball PRODUCTION the flexibility i think about the way the league's going with like these dynamic. Nickel players, underneath like again, he's A safety but i think you can play that big slot for you if. 01:03:58 Speaker 4: You need, to like. 01:04:00 Speaker 1: Again he's been really impressive. Through the process the injury History, is CONCERNING jason but i just think he's the right kind Of. 01:04:05 Speaker 3: Guy for, washington all. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: Right let's do that and then let's start this over and we'll probably get an. Edge rusher, Hopefully all right So We drafted carnel tait at, number seven Overall And, then bud clark THE safety from tcu. At seventy one so let's, do It Again. 01:04:21 Speaker 3: New mack. 01:04:22 Speaker 2: Washington three rounds, here we go. Start this draft let's, go, DEFENSE. 01:04:27 Speaker 5: Here dude i mean this to me seems like. Like, the pick honestly. 01:04:33 Speaker 4: Which is the? Pick? 01:04:33 Speaker 5: You just yeah so it was. 01:04:37 Speaker 2: The same people wait, the Last draft Those, Mendoza, Love, Styles, Bailey. 01:04:43 Speaker 3: Rvel reese rubercgain how? Annoying? 01:04:46 Speaker 1: Is that geez, no edge rushers. That's, A bummer yeah so, this to me let's go, we, Go, defense. 01:04:53 Speaker 2: Right yeah the top edge Rushers left Are, Mesidor from Miami, Keldrick from Auburn cashi As HOW from texas A. And m Tj. PARKER from Clemson i, mean mesodor right we've talked. About him before i've had him. Up pretty high the idea with him, is he's old but he knows. What he's doing he's gonna, come right in he's going to be productive right. Away for you you're gonna feel comfortable with. His high floor Then You, have keldric faulk who is a puppy nineteen years old will be twenty. 01:05:21 Speaker 3: AT the, draft i mean. 01:05:22 Speaker 2: A freak athlete you're betting on, him, getting better yeah and then potentially being. 01:05:27 Speaker 3: Dominant into right both those. 01:05:30 Speaker 1: Guys' roles are interesting because they're both more like traditional like six technique five technique. Type defensive, ends, TO me like I don't even i don know why we, Click, through this jason go, back to safety go to, Safeties real quick, LIKE to me i look at the best player in the draft And It's. Probably caleb downs so like that's And Again, LIKE dylan thieneman i think had. A great combine so maybe you go that direction because. The Athletic Upside but caleb downs. IS a monster i think this is THE corner from lsu still. On the board he would be an interesting, picture As. Well sort delaine so Those are that that'd BE the direction i WOULD go because i don't think the Value There

is fredge like obviously in, A Perfect, World Arvel reez Ruben Bain or david bailey sitting there and this makes this conversation. Way MORE interesting BUT i think i don't know how You Get past, caleb, Downs, honestly, MAN like YEAH i, know. 01:06:17 Speaker 5: I think, like you know if we're if we're set, on you know, saying it seven not training down to get in the Second Round pick like i'm. Looking at me i'm, Looking, TO say okay i need a guy who's gonna do a lot of, stuff For Me and caleb downs does a. Lot of stuff, HE'S super, smart i mean just knows a film GRINDER from everything, i, hear about like plays really well with, line, of, scrimmage physical nasty will just me to tackle. YOUR face off, i mean this this guy. Does it, all to me he's. A, football player, yeah he, Is FOR sure and i think. THAT'S to me i think like if you're if you're watching, IT at seven i think this is this is the easy. 01:06:50 Speaker 6: Pick, for me yeah. 01:06:51 Speaker 3: That's kind of what. It, feels like again the size is a. 01:06:53 Speaker 1: Little bit concerning didn't run at the combine so like usually top shelf like if you're if, you're a safety you're like a, top, shelf athlete right he got top shelf. Size speed stuff he does. Not have that BUT the film i think is Good enough where i'd probably be. 01:07:08 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:07:08 Speaker 2: With, it yeah hey soby on our command center pod last week we did the stock segment and one of them was by the dip, and IT'S like has i hate gone too far? On this guy and it's like we've Lost Track, of caleb downs like he's falling down the board. By his stock he is a. Great football player logan likes to talk about, tears A lot and i would say that for him and me. ARE top tier i have two, people in Him. Love and downs so when you get here and you have so many needs on a team and you want, to go defense why not take this is the best player available mentality and it fits, with team need so why. 01:07:45 Speaker 5: NOT do that i think there's a lot of times, where you can especially this, time of year people just overthink everything because that's all you can do besides actually seeing them. On The Field of, Ricky MINICANCER right and i get some people get said about, like the trace maybe he's not liked all the size and metrics. THAT you'd want i mean the Same Thing with, ruby bain right like. 01:08:03 Speaker 1: The ARM like but I think With, RUBEN bain like i think people have gone too far with that, too with him but his but his play, style, is different right his floor. IS very high i think there's always A Risk, with caleb downs because like what IF he runs, i don't know like a, Four six five and what if he's like got, tiny little arms like the outliers there become larger and larger. And, More Worrisome right ruben bain is. As he's got he's a very high four player in my because of how he's just playstyle lends itself to that way in the nature, Of the position so there is. Some risk, here BUT again like i

think the film. Is good enough He's Played played. Ohiose state man they're playing like, Professional football basically, Like you know i'm not that. 01:08:39 Speaker 4: Worried, ABOUT it no. 01:08:40 Speaker 5: I think, this i mean at the end, of the day just look at what your, eyes, TELL you, right, i mean Guy, the keleb downs. They're Dominant players ruby. Bain, dominant, player like yes the traits aren't maybe, what you want but, like on everything but like he's still a. Good football player he's still gonna Be able to you can't tell me that gallic camp downs would not help this secondary in some. 01:08:59 Speaker 6: Way next year. 01:09:00 Speaker 3: He's better than a. GOOD football player i think He's a great And We have rvel. 01:09:05 Speaker 2: Reese On that, Ohio State team sunny Styles On that ohio state team, and to me, Just a guy downs is the best player including. 01:09:12 Speaker 3: Those two guys also just Went. 01:09:13 Speaker 1: Hire Per Adam scheffner laramie tunsseel just signed with, what let's, go that's. 01:09:18 Speaker 6: Sick let's go we LOVE. 01:09:19 Speaker 2: That ap co so we got Our protection For jade and daniel shirt up just a. Little bit, more all Right Let's draft caleb downs here and then see what we can do. At seventy one So We got caleb downs arguably the best player. In the draft and now we're sitting. At seventy one do you guys want to do something on offense. 01:09:37 Speaker 3: Or keep working? 01:09:38 Speaker 1: On that defense can you go just go to. Receivers, real quick yeah let's. Look at IT, and, then, I oh dude. Elijah surat here. 01:09:46 Speaker 6: I've done this a Lot. 01:09:47 Speaker 5: Like these madras he's he's he's there like a ninety nine times out. 01:09:51 Speaker 6: Of, one, hundred really yes. 01:09:52 Speaker 4: That's so surprising. 01:09:53 Speaker 6: It is interesting it must be a. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: Pff like wolorhythmic so. 01:09:57 Speaker 4: LIKE They do i we talked to sick of them about it. 01:10:01 Speaker 1: A little bit they they like, way percentages right so like way somewhere They go, AND he's like i haven't updated it recently. 01:10:07 Speaker 4: After The Draft, so elijah surratt if. 01:10:10 Speaker 1: You, guys aren't Familiar. Went to indiana he's he measured in big. At the combine he was SIX to two i think it was two zero five, and didn't run but did. The field work AND the thing i, Came AWAY with jason i think you, did as well was just how strong he was in. The lower half his ability to get. Out of cuts he reminds me a lot of Like a bigger tarry in terms of like just the. Lower body strength he's great in, contested cat situations like he's. A pros pro he's super studden in, The SHORT area like i think his ceiling is high. Higher than, THIS for sure i don't, think he's, here but like if you're looking, for A weapon like i get super juiced up at seventy seventy one to have a player like this sitting, here for you like that seems. LIKE the move i guess we could check corner out and. Maybe CHECKED edge can i? Just, push back, yeah GO ahead Because i have. Malecki fields higher? 01:10:58 Speaker 3: WHY is that i just think he a. Better football Player So he's. 01:11:01 Speaker 1: JASON jason's guy i got, a guy yeah and my guy is this, Is My. 01:11:05 Speaker 4: Guy keldric Falk this is jason. Is, his agent actually. 01:11:11 Speaker 2: So he didn't run fast right and then down because of that like the, four six two but and that showed up wasn't going to be a burner. In that way, but he's big. A tax Ball Like everything, carnel tate does he does just. Two ticks down so, you're getting that You're Getting the carnel tate asque guy just, two ticks down which is why you would be here. At SEVENTY one but i think you're putting him. In an offense he's a big guy that's going to go attack the red zone for you can test. To catch monster very smart player with. Route running ability he's just, not SUPER fast but i don't know that that necessarily matters for what you would. 01:11:48 Speaker 5: WANT from, him, i mean also fifteen, TOUCHDOWNS last. 01:11:53 Speaker 3: YEAR i understand i understand that these a. Throwing to Him Who's. THE malkai fields i. 01:11:59 Speaker 4: Don't know who it is right. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: Exactly bad QUARTERBACK. 01:12:02 Speaker 1: But also I think Again I like, Malaye, fields TOO jason and i do think this is ninety four is a little bit. Low for me AGAIN on. THIS pff ranking i think he's going to go in the third round just based. On His Film, BUT elizah sharat i think the short area, of quickness, stuff to me jumps out a. Little bit more and again he didn't run, at the combine so he might run a, four to, Seven who knows but the short area of quickness to me IS something that i think plays BETTER at. The, nfl level again if we drafted either one Of These Players, zach ryer branch. That'd be awesome THE other one i wanted to just shout out is we didn't. 01:12:31 Speaker 3: These edge rushers, these, are. Corners corners corners you ask me to? Pull that? 01:12:35 Speaker 4: UP all, right I meant Did i say i'm? In, edge rushers sorry. That's my bad it. 01:12:40 Speaker 3: Is your bad. Now it's delay oh we're back by. 01:12:43 Speaker 4: The, same groups. 01:12:44 Speaker 3: Yeah same basic the. 01:12:47 Speaker 1: ONE guy that i want to Shout Out is Mike, washington from arkansas also. The, running back okay just a big body downhill, kind of bruiser sort of fellow and like he ran a four to three at the combine and he's two and twenty six pounds and he's six to two and a half six one and a half and good, and pass protection long arms gotten exposed, to PLAYMAKING ability and i think about kind of the backfield that They had in detroit with kind of this, thunder lightning, Combination You Know bill crosskey merritt, In Year two mike washington getting downhill like that seems pretty. 01:13:19 Speaker 4: Exciting to me so and then. 01:13:21 Speaker 3: Here's our linebackers it's the

same basic group that. 01:13:24 Speaker 4: WAS it again I Don't. 01:13:24 Speaker 1: THINK anthony Hill I think anthony hill's a, third round player so to have him in ninety two seems kind of. Crazy to, me but yeah maybe you feel like you can get a linebacker in. The fifth round. I'm not sure so what are you guys? 01:13:35 Speaker 3: Looking at you do you want to go wide receiver to help out the offense or you want to. 01:13:38 Speaker 6: Stay tempting to? 01:13:39 Speaker 1: Go wide, RECEIVER for ME i think i think for the first one, of The season first mack draft, OF the season i think wide receivers the move just because of, Who is here like if you took your scroll down. A Little Bit, So Elijah, Sharrott, Zach Ryer, Branch Deon, Burks Malachy, Fields Antonio, Williams, Deshaun Stribling Bryce bryce lance Sig Fan, OF Bryce, HEADHURST dj daniels i don't know who. That, Guy Is oh cyry's Allen, From. From, cincinnati regie like all those dudes are. 01:14:07 Speaker 5: Good football players you want maybe you go a different direction here because maybe you go running back because the receiver tail. 01:14:14 Speaker 1: Is so, long but like man like that is a good, group OF receivers and i feel like you'd be happy with. 01:14:18 Speaker 5: All, OF them yeah i don't feel like you can go wrong WITH any m i still. Feel for, Me Oh, dude markel bell, LET'S go now i. 01:14:25 Speaker 3: JUST pulled up. 01:14:30 Speaker 1: I love, it i mean we, don't need, HIM but like i think he's a STUD man, and i think uh, and big old. 01:14:35 Speaker 4: Big old hoss how? About defensive tackle? Let's do? That why not let's? 01:14:38 Speaker 1: Do Defensive tackle grayson, Hillton's Back HERE rashawn benny i. Like a lot chris McClellan, is an athletic freak upside. Type of player, maybe, You Wait Dude, caleb procket jason. That's, Your guy yeah, i'm A fan and i think he fits this. Defense, really, well dude sick what do we? 01:14:59 Speaker 4: Do a comment, he's crushed it crushed it, weight and heavy did the? Whole. 01:15:04 Speaker 1: THING great job i mean a receiver to me is what. The answer is like all, THOSE defensive tackles i think, they're GOOD too but i think, for the value for, the contract value like i'd probably. 01:15:15 Speaker 3: Go this direction so you want, TO do sarrat i assume the. Two, of, you. 01:15:22 Speaker 1: So like just, TO be Clear I think malachai field is a heck of. A football player IT'S just Like I think elijah surrott has a little bit more diversity. To his, Game, and again JASON what did i tell you when, We DID receivers like i love a, big wide receiver and there's nobody bigger in this Draft Cast. Than, Malachai fields, RIGHT oh yeah, i Love them but i've been burned by big wide receivers. Too many, Times all right so. 01:15:43 Speaker 2: We'll do It We'll, take elijah surratt the Wide, Receiver From, indiana Caleb downs and elijah surran the. First three rounds there at, the starting point. We're getting Better not that, I'll copy this i'll see see It Over. To adam peters. 01:16:01 Speaker 6: I'm in a little bit of a. 01:16:01 Speaker 5: Heater right now so the heater over the, last, three years, uh you know we've Done mock draft mondays, every year right and the First guy that i've always chosen to start the kickoff The mock draft monday series has BEEN, drafted by us. 01:16:17 Speaker 4: Has BEEN, drafted by us. But not necessarily where we're getting This Is. 01:16:20 Speaker 3: Actually adam peters. 01:16:21 Speaker 2: Here is. 01:16:24 Speaker 5: Three FIRST first, Corner i did OUR first player i did Was the MANUAL forbes. 01:16:29 Speaker 4: DRAFTED manu four i don't know if, that's good. 01:16:30 Speaker 6: Though twenty? 01:16:31 Speaker 5: Four what's not this is not ABOUT whether and i end up working out right, Twenty four obviously Man Twenty, Five, josh connory. 01:16:39 Speaker 4: Okay that's, Good Twenty. Five josh. Connolly, that's, impressive, Yeah yeah. 01:16:43 Speaker 6: Yeah so Hey smooter domas selby doun as we. 01:16:47 Speaker 1: Wrap, THIS up man i love, doing mock drafts but they, are you know like they Get the rank we don't. 01:16:51 Speaker 3: Get the rankings better, on, this thing. Man, you know yeah it's. 01:16:53 Speaker 1: Just TOO bad but. I, Enjoyed, it yeah zach good, having, You on buddy oh good. 01:16:58 Speaker 5: To. 01:16:58 Speaker 3: Be here man you want to plug anythings out, Before you. 01:17:01 Speaker 6: Know i'll just say go to. 01:17:02 Speaker 5: Commanders dot com we do have the breakdowns for all like the tell you guys like top ten rankings and. All other stuff we'll have. THAT on there i have a lot more drafts and More, mock draft monday it's more. Mock draft madness as we Get, closer to april it's going to be. Basically draft everything so get. 01:17:18 Speaker 6: Ready for. 01:17:19 Speaker 3: IT let's go I love It. COMMANDERS dot com. I, live there yeah it's, a great website but. 01:17:23 Speaker 2: In the. 01:17:23 Speaker 4: Meantime that's it