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Speaker 1: Outside of Scooble, we might need to brace ourselves for what could be a boring Dodgers offseason.
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Speaker 2: What is going on, party people? Welcome to a Monday edition of Dodgers Territory. I am Clint Basias. That is Katie Wu. No Alana today. She is out living her life. Or at least helping her mom. So prayers up for mama.
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Speaker 3: Nothing bad. Like she's moving her mom to her neck of the woods, which is good. Good for her.
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Speaker 2: Get her out of Colorado. Nobody likes Colorado. Katie Wu, you are on the road. You are in Las Vegas. GM meetings kick off today. Before we get into that, Justin Yamas let us know in the chat, I think on the way out with our friends over at Foul Territory. You had some loving words from AJ Pruszynski who told you to take it easy on the drinks there in Vegas.
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Speaker 3: Care to comment?
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Speaker 1: It actually threw me off because I took it at face value that AJ said something nice. I was like, that doesn't sound like him. And you know what, AJ, if you're listening, I will not be doing that. If my editor is listening, I will be on my best behavior.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is. That's called playing both sides of the fence there. Again, you are out there. We talked about it a little bit last week.
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Speaker 2: Give the folks here who maybe missed that show or maybe aren't as in the know with the GM meetings what these kind of usually look like and how this could be different this week, how.
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Speaker 3: Things could be different.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The GM meetings, for those who don't know, it serves as the official start or the non-official start.
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Speaker 4: Of the offseason, if you will.
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Speaker 1: It's really the first chance all 30 teams and their executives plus agents have a chance to meet in person. And it usually serves as the foundation. You know, you're laying the groundwork of whatever free agency looks like, potential trades. You're just kind of usually feeling out the start of the market. As we know, free agency extends for a very long time, usually into spring training period.
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Speaker 4: Not this year, though, guys.
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Speaker 1: This year, it's kind of a free-for-all sprint because with the pending lockout, there's probably not going to be a winter meetings, which is usually when we start to see the traction pick up. So like we talked about on our show last week, majority of the executives, majority of the agents believe it's going to be a free agent frenzy of signings. But in baseball land, nobody does anything until they absolutely have to. So you're looking at right after Thanksgiving, that weekend, a couple of days right before the CBA expires on December 1st. Right now, though, with the GM meeting starting officially tomorrow, all 30 execs will be here at the ARIA in Las Vegas. It will be more of a like, hey, we're on a crunch time. We got three
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weeks to get things done. How do we expedite this process? Obviously, Tarek Skubal is going to be leading the charge there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get free agent signings.
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Speaker 2: We might have some trades either happen or the groundwork for some trades happening. And what we're doing today is I got five questions I'm throwing at you. Well, maybe we'll have a little back and forth, but mostly I'm going to take advantage of Alana being away and use your big wrinkly journalism brain with all the big knowledge in there. To get some information that hopefully is helpful for the fans here on the show. First off, kicking us off, is a bit of a softball. We had a surprising departure last week as it was, I guess not officially announced, but one of the hitting coaches, co-hitting coach Aaron Bates, is gone.
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Speaker 5: Gone.
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Speaker 2: The two sides could not agree to a contract for the 2027 season.
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Speaker 3: Bit of a shocker.
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Speaker 2: You don't really see Dodgers coaches leave because of a contract dispute. It's usually because there's another job available. What more can you tell us about the Aaron Bates situation?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a surprising situation for the reasons you just said, Clint. And this ultimately came down to the two sides not being able to find a deal that they felt represented both sides fairly. And it is interesting because we don't really hear this with the Dodgers. And Andrew Freeman said at his end of year press conference that he expected things to be status quo about the coaching staff. I took that as there are going to be contracts expiring, but he envisions keeping all of his major league coaching staff under Dave Roberts, assuming everyone could come to agreements there. And, unfortunately, weren't able to do so with Aaron Bates. Matty Lee had a really good story with him in the LA Times where Bates, you know, pretty much said 12 years with the organization, nothing but good things to say, but they weren't able to come to a resolution on a new contract. I heard the Dodgers did extend a deal. Aaron Bates ultimately turned it down.
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Speaker 4: It is surprising, though.
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Speaker 1: As this news broke last Friday, got some texts from coaches around the league because Aaron Bates, for as respected as he was within the Dodgers organization, also very respected throughout the industry. So some coaching staffs interested to see on what went down there. What this isn't, though, and what I think fans have more questions about, this is not a sign or a... a contract resolution that didn't come because the Dodgers were unhappy with Bates or what Robert von Skoiak was doing with the offense. This was not a, it's not a signal or.
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Speaker 4: The turning of the tides for a new offensive approach.
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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are not looking to overhaul what they're doing with their hitters. Of course, they're looking to adjust and improve, but Aaron Bates was not let go or was not brought back because the Dodgers were unhappy with what the hitting coaches did. It just came to a contract resolution. solution that they could not find. But one thing that I just made very clear, you know, again, this is not public news, but just talking to people within the organization that this is not something where they believe that this is a should be should be communicated as a the Dodgers are revamping their hitting program. They're not, we know that Robert Van Squaak should stay. Don't really see any big changes coming to the coaching staff other than that. But this was just more or less two parties not being able to come together on terms, not really much more other than that in terms of if there's going to be more changes to the hitting philosophy, I wouldn't think that.
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Speaker 2: The editor in me wants to chase a narrative that, you know, what should we read from this? Should we read the fact that, hey, maybe the Dodgers are trying to cut a little payroll, cut a little salary, a little spending where they can. Again, it seems weird that the all-powerful billion, trillion, million dollar Dodgers, I guess million shouldn't be the last one, but that it would come down to numbers and years for somebody that's been with the organization for the last decade plus, as you mentioned. Am I grasping at straws that this is somehow entwined with Mark Walter's financial situation?
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Speaker 4: Yes. Yes, I think so. I don't think the Dodgers, especially.
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Speaker 3: Being in the— Chase the lead.
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Speaker 4: Chase the story.
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Speaker 1: If the Dodgers are in the market for Tarek Skubal, they're not sweating the price of keeping a hitting coach.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is fair.
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Speaker 2: Moving on here, we do expect them to spend some money in some way, shape, or form. Tarek Skubal at the top of that list. We've talked a lot of Tarek Skubal. I don't think we need to dive too much into that right now. We've had reports today, you know, it's feeling more like the Mets are climbing atop that leaderboard to sign him, but also it's coming from kind of a Scott Boris mouthpiece, so take that with a grain of salt. We all kind of want to, but two other big-name free agents coming from the Dodgers. I don't know if they're big-name, but big free agents that were on the Dodgers have been on the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: For the last few years. I feel like we've.
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Speaker 2: Talked about, we haven't talked enough about Alex Vessia, Evan Phillips, anything.
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Speaker 3: change in that regard?
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Speaker 2: Is there any indication that the team would look to bring back one, both? Is there any sort of movement kind of going in the way to bringing those guys back, bringing those dogs back to that bullpen?
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Speaker 4: Poor relievers. They're children of free agency and in teams.
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Speaker 1: But any Dodgers fan knows how
important Alex Vessia and Evan Phillips are to that nucleus of the bullpen. And usually in seasons that are normal, relievers are the last to go on the market. For whatever reason, last year, they were the first group to go, maybe because there were just so many of them. Clint, we've talked about this. This free agent class is not very good. it's not very deep there aren't a lot of big names outside of scooble that are going to command those lucrative uh contracts that major league baseball is trying to uh get rid of but for vessia and phillips they're going to most likely looking at the market command but to probably a two-year deal around let's project 225 for each could i see the dodgers going for one of the other absolutely could I see them going in for both.
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Speaker 4: I could.
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Speaker 1: It just depends on how they feel about their pitching depth. And we saw some options in the lower tier, kind of the 4A guys, if you will, kind of between AAA and the majors throughout the year, where there was potential.
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Speaker 4: But not a lot of stability.
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Speaker 1: And what Alex Bessie and Evan Phillips bring to that bullpen is stability. We know how much Dave Roberts covets his veteran experience. These are guys that know the clubhouse, know the culture, have the respect, and could sort of serve as the bridge relievers as the next wave.
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Speaker 4: Of guys in AAA. You're looking at the Kyle Hurts of the world today. kind of get back.
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Speaker 1: On progress, back on track to be more viable options in the years to come.
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Speaker 4: So do I see them pursuing both?
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Speaker 1: I don't know how logical that is, but they're not going to command the kind of money that the Dodgers of all teams are going to shy away from. And I think given what they mean to the team, I'd be surprised if one or the other is not brought back.
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Speaker 4: I believe one of the two will.
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Speaker 1: Be, but I can certainly see a narrative and a case where both Phillips and Bessia are back with the Dodgers whenever next year begins.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big proponent.
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Speaker 2: I'm pushing big for both of those guys to come back. I think, yeah, you mentioned some of the other guys. I'm a big Kyle Hurt guy. You've got probably a Ben Kasparis coming back in some form next year. Hopefully Jake Cousins continues to come back and be healthy and be that kind of lottery ticket the Dodgers signed a year ago. But when you look at the improvement over the course of the end of the season for Evan Phillips, Alex Vessia and his tenure in a Dodger uniform, I don't know if it's just my heart saying these guys need to be back, but also statistically, the numbers, they're still good, they're still performing well, and you need, like you mentioned, those bridges to Tanner Scott and Edwin Diaz in the back of the bullpen, so hopefully something moves there along with Tarek Skubal or whatever.
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Speaker 3: It's not my money. They can go out there and spend it for me. or for all of us. Moving on.
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Speaker 2: There was a piece last week in the California Post about Josue de Paula.
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Speaker 3: He's working.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, we know for him to be on the Major League roster come spring training, come opening day, he needs to get better defensively in the outfield, and he's working to improve his outfield defense, according to Dylan Hernandez, through the lockout, despite not having.
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Speaker 3: Access to the Dodgers, because he's going to be locked out. What more can you tell us about this report?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is pretty status quo.
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Speaker 1: We are pretty familiar with how lockouts work because there was one just five years ago. Obviously, teams cannot have any contact with players.
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Speaker 4: Players cannot work.
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Speaker 1: Out of team facilities once the CBA expires and the two sides do start that lockout. So the best thing for DePaulo to do is continue working out where at least someone can have eyes on him and working.
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Speaker 4: Out with DePaulo.
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Speaker 1: Whatever his, I don't know what the right term is for agency mates, but as a Boris guy, he certainly has access to a lot of the top facilities outside of what the Dodgers have.
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Speaker 4: But that's, for me, Clint, the issue.
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Speaker 1: And this is nothing against whatever Boris Corp and whatever players or former players are coming to work with DePaulo on.
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Speaker 4: I think this is great for him.
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Speaker 1: He needs to have some sort of structure and instruction as he takes these next steps forward. But the fact that the Dodgers can't see it is what's going to be the big question mark, right?
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Speaker 4: And we know that DePaulo's bat's going to play in the major leagues.
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Speaker 1: We also know the defense has to take a considerable step forward. And we can walk it back a little bit because I see the common misconception is, well, how hard can it be? He's been an outfielder throughout his career. How hard is it to know routes and first step and jumps? The jump in talent from each level of the minors, from AA to AAA, and then to the big leagues is.
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Speaker 4: is so large.
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Speaker 1: So to make sure that DePaula can make that transition and not see a setback or he's coming out to the outfield and he's just not ready and gets exposed.
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Speaker 4: That can be detrimental to the development of your player.
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Speaker 1: So the Dodgers have to make sure that JDP is ready to go as a major league outfielder because his only other position, DH, is taken by Shohei Otani. Being able to work this winter is instrumental for DePaula. The Dodgers, though, aren't going to be able to know where he is or the strides he's taking or have their hands on him and really mold him the way they want him to play.
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Speaker 4: That's the bigger issue. Of course, any work is good work.
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Speaker 1: But for the Dodgers, they're going in blind, really, to what DePaula is going to look like whenever spring trading starts next year. And given how important it is for DePaula's own development to be an outfielder in 2027, we can't overlook that.
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Speaker 2: There was one of the lines in there, one of his quotes in that column there on the California Post about how he felt the motivation to get better as he was moved up. I think from single A, from high A to double A, he understands the narrative that he's not a good defender.
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Speaker 3: We've seen it.
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Speaker 2: I've heard from plenty of talent evaluators about just how insanely bad he was. I think, you know, as the club mentioned, he did make some strides, take some strides forward. And, and we've mentioned this before, something, a big consideration for, for everybody here. Just remember, this kid is 21. He's played outfield. He's been put in the outfield, but this is a dude that likes to hit. He wants to be in the batter's box. That is his favorite position, borrowing from old friend of the show, Matt Beatty. That is where he belongs, but his best way to get in that left-handed batter's box is by him figuring out how to play defense.
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Speaker 3: He has time.
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Speaker 2: He has time to develop, get a little bit better, make incremental steps, and we have used the Andy Pahez path to suddenly becoming a kind of gold glove caliber center fielder defensively. I'm not saying Josue DiPaola is going to become a gold glove center fielder, but I think working with the right guys, you saw him at the end of the season, mentioned working with Dino Ebel, you saw Dave Roberts, a pretty damn good left fielder in his day, also playing center field in his time with the Dodgers. He's got the right pieces in place to keep getting better. It won't be a complete product by the end of this offseason, but working with some of those guys, Alex Ochoa, and.
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Speaker 3: More importantly, Jackie Bradley Jr.
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Speaker 2: gold glove winner, I think a platinum glove winner in center field. I'm not 100% certain on that. Strides will be taken, and Katie, I think we can all agree, the best way the Dodgers get better in 2027 is with this guy being in there just about every day because the bat is ready.
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Speaker 4: Agreed. It's all about the defense.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be an all-star caliber corner outfielder. He just has to be serviceable. And I don't want to discredit the work that he's done. This is not a 21-year-old kid that's like, no, I'm good. I can hit and I'm going to be fine. He wants to get better. He saw the reps. And I think the time that he got in September with the Dodgers and seeing that veteran core, how they prepared for a postseason run, you can't That's experience that you can only gain by being there.
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Speaker 4: You can't teach those kinds of things.
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Speaker 1: So I think that will serve as motivation, which will be, again, a very important winter for him as we start this lockout.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And so as he gets better in the outfield, I'm going to get back in the lab and I'm going to get mediocre in the outfield so I can start playing softball again.
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Speaker 3: But that is neither here nor there. That is a chance for us to take a quick pause here. We got more. I got two more questions. We're going to throw at Katie.
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Speaker 2: And also if you are going to be a D bag to anybody on the show in the chat, we're going to give you the boot, but somebody was being, uh, being a prick to Katie. So we kicked them and the people immediately, uh, coming to your defense, Catherine.
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Speaker 4: Was it Richie?
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Speaker 3: It was not Richie.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Richie, you know, I feel about you. We're friends.
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Speaker 3: No, but he, he did give you some gambling advice. He said, what did he say? He said, I think he said, don't split your tens. Uh, there it is.
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Speaker 2: Uh, he said, sorry, I missed you in Vegas. Uh, pretty sure
that was intentional. And he says, don't split on tens.
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Speaker 3: Up and to the right. The needle is going up and to the right for Katie Wu. All right, we're just.
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Speaker 2: Coming back and talking about the Dodgers getting better. One way they get better is by having their guys, the internal guys, take some steps forward.
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Speaker 3: Mainly Josue DePaula.
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Speaker 2: Another way they can get better is on the trade market. And over the weekend, I became all in. all the way in on the Dodgers need to trade for Gunnar Henderson. So this is me putting you, pushing you into a corner to talk about Gunnar Henderson. Bob Nightingale, USA Today, dropped a column today talking about the biggest movers, potential biggest movers and shakers at this week's GM meetings amongst the.
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Speaker 3: Bunch of work Bob poured into this.
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Speaker 2: He mentioned Gunnar Henderson as somebody who the Orioles could look to make available in a trade. We've mentioned or we've heard, we've seen other reports about the Orioles, you know, kind of everybody but Pete Alonso being available. Gunnar Henderson coming off of a down year, kind of down a couple of years.
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Speaker 3: Makes sense. Baltimore sucks.
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Speaker 2: They are not trending in the right direction at all. Is there a world where a trade for Gunnar Henderson could be on the Dodgers' radar?
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you, Clint, and the rest of Dodger Nation are going to hate this answer, so get the tomatoes ready.
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Speaker 4: I hear it. Not right now.
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Speaker 1: And I think outside of Scooble, we might need to brace ourselves for what could be a boring Dodgers offseason.
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Speaker 4: And I know this is what they do. They're like, hey, you know, we're not going to do much. It's going to be boring. All the marginal moves, etc., etc.
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Speaker 3: etc.
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Speaker 4: So....
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Speaker 1: I can understand some pushback there, but I really haven't heard anything about plans for the middle infield, mainly because I don't think the Dodgers are there yet. Obviously, if you're going to trade for a shortstop, you move Mookie Betts to second base. And I'm on board that that should probably happen at some point in Mookie's career, but not yet. And mainly, I don't think the Dodgers feel like they need to do that at this time now this market changes and nobody knows that better than Andrew Friedman if something comes up where it makes sense for them to do it they're going to be active I don't think right now the Dodgers think making a big splash in their middle infield makes a lot of sense we've talked about this a lot Clint I see the bigger discussions and the more difficult decisions coming around this time next year going into 2028 when some significant contracts come off the books. But right now, I can see the Dodgers pushing for Scooble, seeing what they can do to bring him back. And then kind of running it back with more or less the same core, trying to improve some depth on the margins. Again, maybe that's with the bullpen, bringing back some guys, maybe finding a stopgap for the middle infield that's not Gunnar Henderson. Nothing is impossible for the Dodgers, but this just doesn't feel like anything that's come up in their radar, according to people that I've talked to, because they don't feel like they need to do this yet.
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Speaker 3: Well, you get out of here. You get all the way out of here with that crap. I don't like that answer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I, I'm prepared for a mostly Stan Pat boring off season. Um, I, I'm hopeful there's again, you get Gunder Henderson all of a sudden, like that's just a game changer, but I understand the reality of he's a dude who is still very good, has team control, young, yada, yada.
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Speaker 3: Um, But still, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. All right, the final question.
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Speaker 4: That's fair.
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Speaker 2: It is more kind of in that you pretty much answered it here, but we'll rehash it in the final question being more of a prediction. The Dodgers, like, are they most likely to stand Pat this offseason? You know, and for what it's worth, I am like kind of lumping Tarek Skubal, like them re-signing Tarek Skubal into the category of standing Pat, like running it back. And I've mentioned this before to people, like, this is a team that won 100 games. They're still a very good team. They just ran into a team in the Brewers that was playing very well while the Dodgers weren't playing at their absolute best. So re-signing Tarek Skubal is in that category of standing pat to me. So again, more likely to stand pat or make some sort of big splash to reshape the roster. Is it too early to say, like, the market still needs to kind of mature to know what this.
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Speaker 3: Team is going to do?
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Speaker 4: I think so, in a way.
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Speaker 1: Again, we'll have a much better understanding on what this market looks like in the next couple of days. I expect the starting pitching market to be very active. Obviously, that includes Scooble, but I still see the Dodgers and the Mets as the top players for that market. And I agree, Quint, we'll put them in as running it back. Obviously, bringing Scooble back would count as a big splash. But other than that, I'm not sure if there's many players out there on the market right now in just terms of free agency that makes sense for what this team is looking to do. And I think when you're looking at the guys that they want to see coming up in AAA and the positions that they're kind of lacking depth in, there's an opportunity for Alex Freeland to see more time.
There's an opportunity to maybe move Tommy Edmund around the diamond, maybe give some.
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Speaker 4: Of the outfield.
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Speaker 1: Can they trade to Oscar Hernandez? That seems to be the more logical option. He has one year left on his contract. And it will free up some space for DePaula should that outfield work continue.
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Speaker 4: There are, in my opinion, more.
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Speaker 1: There's more of a benefit to keeping this group together.
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Speaker 4: They don't need to split it up right now.
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Speaker 1: Probably those conversations are going to happen this time next year when Kyle Tucker has his opt-out clause, Freddie Freeman's contract's up, Max Muncy's contract's.
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Speaker 4: Up, etc.
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Speaker 1: But right now, you can run it back with this group. They did win 100 games. There are concerns about the age, obviously, and one year older means those concerns get a little bigger.
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Speaker 4: And I said this in a mailbag earlier last week.
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Speaker 1: As bad as a short season would be for baseball, it might be the best thing for the Dodgers. And I think they're kind of counting on maybe not having a full season and seeing what that means for their roster.
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Speaker 4: There's going to be much more.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a much more sensical argument to have kind of the big overhaul picture of Come 2028, not just because of the contracts, but because we're going to know what the CBA is going to look like. We're going to know what the spending patterns are going to look like. Right now, there is just so much unknown. The only thing we can do is go on what we know the Dodgers will do, which is try to bring back Scooble and then go from there.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic stuff. Look at that.
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Speaker 2: Putting all that smart, wrinkly journalism brain to use there. Some of the stuff like, listen, Andrew, Andrew, right here, buddy. I know you watch the show. We know we're on. Make Gunnar Henderson happen for me. My birthday just passed. Christmas is coming up.
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Speaker 3: Make Gunnar Henderson happen.
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Speaker 2: If you guys have any thoughts about anything we have talked about thus far, please sound off in the comments, whether you're watching live, whether you're watching after the fact. We do have one more thing to talk about here on this edition of the show.
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Speaker 3: First, we're going to talk about a dog.
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Speaker 2: While Alana is away, we still will play with the idea of getting Nacho a home. Nacho has been around forever. Nacho's mom has been adopted. Nacho deserves a forever home. Look at that big old noggin. Help out, Nacho. Still looking for a home. If you guys are able to adopt or interested in adopting, whether it be Nacho, any of the dogs over there with Guidry's Guardian, go ahead and check out Guidry'sGuardian.org. That is Alana Rizzo's foundation. She would very much appreciate it. They're also accepting donations. It is all, you know, it's not backed by any sort of corporation or whatever. It is all Alana-driven, Alana-sponsored, honestly, a whole bunch. And, you know, sponsored by, helped out by people like you. So anyways, we appreciate you guys listening on Nacho for a second. Baseball thought for the road. For the first time, emerging from the ashes of the 2026 season was Maxwell Steven Muncy. He joined the boys on foul territory today. Great stuff, as always, from Munce. My takeaway, I don't know if you have a different takeaway before we sign off, but one of the things I loved as they were signing off him, A.J.
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Speaker 3: Pruszynski, your best friend and.
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Speaker 2: Of course, Listen, I'm a Kratz guy. I love me some Eric Kratz. Don't tell him, though.
00:26:02
Speaker 3: Don't tell him.
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Speaker 2: But one of the things I love about what he says was he hopes the CBA negotiations, like the lockout, goes on just long enough, something we've talked about, just long enough to cut.
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Speaker 3: Spring training down by a couple.
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Speaker 2: Of weeks, but not affect the regular season. As somebody who's been out the spring training, albeit when I go, I usually go just for a few days and then I get to go home. I imagine somebody like you or like we talked about before the show, somebody like our pal Bill Plunkett would absolutely love to not be in Glendale, Arizona for a flipping month. Either thoughts on that or takeaways from Muncie's interview?
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Speaker 4: I co-sign. I co-sign.
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Speaker 1: Six weeks at CBR is a tough place, especially because, you know, we are lucky. Not every spring complex has a media room, but the Dodgers do have a media room.
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Speaker 4: And it does have a window. It's like a sliver of glass. So that's great. I get to see one ray of sun per day.
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Speaker 1: But so six weeks is a long time and it's a long time at spring for guys to get ramped up. I know it's super imperative for pitchers, but I'm in on the Max Muncy spring training program. Three and a half weeks and bounce. But no, good stuff from Max is always on foul. Had some funny stuff with AJ. Some sarcasm, if you will, about how the Dodgers are going to come into the 2027 season after not winning the World Series.
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Speaker 4: And just going to completely roll over. Max said it.
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Speaker 1: So go ahead and listen to that. Again, Max Muncy, always a good listen to you.
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Speaker 4: On foul territory. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Waiting for the sleeper accounts to write that, that column there to write, put that tweet out that Max Muncy declares the Dodgers dynasty dead. Can't read the tongue and cheek.
00:27:38
Speaker 4: They'll be back. They're always back.
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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm looking at the comment section right now, Justin, I do want to go to Mario Graz instead of extended spring training, but we don't always get what we want.
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Speaker 4: Do we?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there is that, that good CVS that has the one CVS that has the drinks next to a CBR.
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Speaker 3: Got that going for you.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. That's nice. A little tailgate action.
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Speaker 2: Other than that, absolutely nothing going on in Glendale, Arizona. Guys, appreciate you guys all hanging out with us here on this Monday. Hopefully you enjoyed it.
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Speaker 5: I didn't.
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Speaker 3: No, it was a good show.
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