Full Transcript for Softy and Dick 11-11 Hour 1: Mike Florio, Hawks Hopes, FoF, FwA

on it? You could be 5% and say, yeah, pretty much right. 00:02:22 Speaker 3: Give it up. Okay. 00:02:23 Speaker 1: I mean, we're, we're talking like anything on this show in this business, general terms. So it's obviously more than zero and, Because the Seahawks are still playing, and they have nine games, right, or eight games, whatever it is, left to go. 00:02:37 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 00:02:37 Speaker 1: So do I think the Seahawks have a great chance to win the Super Bowl right now? 00:02:42 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 00:02:43 Speaker 1: I will say this, though, that if you trust Vegas and you look at the odds, I went back and looked at where the odds were at the Emerald Queen Casino at this point in time exactly one year from now, or a year ago, sorry. And they were plus 1,500 to win the whole thing. 00:03:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're about that right now. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: Now they're at plus 1,800. 00:03:01 Speaker 1: So they're a little bit lower, but it's not significantly lower. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: It's not crazy lower. 00:03:07 Speaker 1: And I think for me, look, their schedule is going to open up a little bit. 00:03:10 Speaker 3: The Rams may be ready. 00:03:12 Speaker 1: The Rams may be one more loss away from just throwing in the towel and saying the hell with it, by the way. I know they're getting Devontae Adams back. We don't even know yet what the Seahawks' running game is going to look like. Brian Fleury is just getting his feet wet. So the optimist in me says, hell no, they're not done. 00:03:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:03:27 Speaker 1: But I could see how other people, though, would take what you just said there, Jackson. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: Sorry, Dick, real quick. 00:03:31 Speaker 1: And just play the opposite and say, you say it's mostly the same team. Well, define mostly. Because they don't have their coordinator from last year. The new guy has struggled. The quarterback has looked, for the most part, awful. And Sam Darnold, he has not been healthy. He may not be healthy the entire year. The offensive line hasn't gelled. The running game looks nowhere near like it did to end the season last year. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: All those things are true. 00:03:54 Speaker 1: So I think it's actually a great conversation about how much confidence we have right now in this football team because that was the goal, right, guys? 00:04:00 Speaker 3: The goal this year was to do something that we were robbed of in 2014. 00:04:03 Speaker 1: What does our confidence level look like now compared to where it was at the start of the year? 00:04:09 Speaker 3: And how much do you believe they can still pull it off? That's the question. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: We've won two Super Bowls and a good chunk in both of those two years. A good chunk of Seahawks fans jumped off the ship during the season. I mean, I remember 2013 vividly and how pissed off and done Hawks fans were when we beat the Rams by scoring, what, 10 points? 00:04:27 Speaker 3: No, that's not true. 00:04:29 Speaker 2: There was a ton of people that said there is no— it was the Twitter era, and I remember this vividly— there. 00:04:35 Speaker 4: Is no possible way— This was the thought. 00:04:40 Speaker 2: There is no possible way with this offense this team can win the Super Bowl. That was the take from many people on Twitter in 2013. And last year, after they got shredded by Baker Mayfield. And remember what we said after the Rams game. We lost 21-19 when Sam Darnold threw four interceptions. We actually sat here and went, wait a second. 00:04:59 Speaker 6: Great. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: I actually feel better now about them winning the Super Bowl than I did before, which means we didn't have great vibes going into that game on November 19th that they could win the Super Bowl. 00:05:10 Speaker 1: Well, you've referenced that game many times. I felt the same way, that it was great that they came that close to winning. I thought it was a wake-up call for the NFL that the Hawks went down there and threw four picks and came with a 60-yard field goal of beating the Rams that night. 14-9 was the Monday night game when they won the game. I remember being pissed Pissed off as hell at 7-1. And not pissed off because the Hawks weren't able to do anything great that year, but because the performance was piss poor. And their standards weren't met that night. That's what drove me nuts. What I don't like doing, and you guys do whatever you want, you know that this bugs the hell out of me. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: I didn't do it today, Jax did. 00:05:47 Speaker 4: So yell at him. 00:05:48 Speaker 1: When Jackson goes on the air and says something like, you're not a real fan. Guys, people say things all the time. You know, Hugh and I were having this conversation the other day. How many times do you watch a game? That's the worst call I've ever seen in my life. 00:06:02 Speaker 3: And it really isn't, but it just feels like it at the time. 00:06:05 Speaker 1: So I get why fans are a little worked up right now about this football team. But I also think that those people, at the same time as they say things like that, also may be the same people, guys. 00:06:17 Speaker 3: This is where you got to be careful. 00:06:19 Speaker 1: They may be the same people that are rooting like mad for them to get it turned around and start to win again and get back to a title game. So we'll talk about that coming up today. We'll ask Mike Florio about that as well right now on 93.3 KJRFM. 00:06:34 Speaker 7: It's time for our weekly conversation with Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone else has? For the best Seahawks, Mariners, Krakens, Sounders, Storm, not to mention the largest Sonics collection in the world, check out SimplySeattle.com. Now with Mike Florio, here's Softie and Dick. 00:06:57 Speaker 1: All right, it is our pleasure every single Wednesday, courtesy

of our friends at SimplySeattle.com, who remind you that all Husky gear this week is 30% off on the entire website. Maybe you start stocking the stuffers or stuffing the stockings, whatever. Buying some holiday gifts. Hanukkah, Christmas, whatever, all Husky gear, 30% off on the website right now at SimplySeattle.com. Here he is, though, the king of the NFL media, undisputed heavyweight champion of the NFL press corps, ProFootballTalk.com, PFT Live, and my personal dear friend, my loving friend, Mike Florio. 00:07:32 Speaker 3: How are you, man? 00:07:34 Speaker 8: You know, I'm not in the mood for your sarcasm today, so I'm just going to ignore it. 00:07:38 Speaker 6: Good afternoon, buttholes. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine. 00:07:41 Speaker 1: Mike, we were talking earlier on the show about the Hawks' chances of repeating. You know, when you think about the game in 2014, losing that game to the Patriots and losing a chance to go back-to-back, which many teams don't get a chance to do. We've been waiting for an opportunity for 12 years, and the opportunity presents itself right now. And we were just kicking around the idea of how likely that is, that they can get this thing going in the right direction and still pull that off. What kind of odds would you give them to do that right now? 00:08:13 Speaker 6: Why don't you want to let one of the other kids have a turn? Let somebody else win the Super Bowl. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: Isn't one enough? Isn't two enough? 00:08:21 Speaker 6: I know. 00:08:21 Speaker 8: Can't you just be happy with what you have? You know, it reminds me, back in the 70s, Terry Bradshaw at one point opened up about the depression he would slip into after the Steelers would win a Super Bowl because what else is there? We just climbed this mountain, and now what do we do? Oh, go climb the same mountain again. 00:08:41 Speaker 6: And that was. 00:08:41 Speaker 8: Before there was this issue of legacies and chasing number of championships. 00:08:46 Speaker 6: He was the pioneer. He wasn't chasing anyone. So. 00:08:50 Speaker 8: At a certain point, you torment yourself to try to do the thing you just did, and it does drive you crazy. 00:08:55 Speaker 6: And regardless of whether. 00:08:57 Speaker 8: Or not the Seahawks want to do it, and surely they do, can they do it with four losses in nine games? Can they do it with injury issues at quarterback? Can they do it when you see what's going on in the NFC North? You know, a week ago, I would have said that of the seven contenders in the NFC North and the NFC West, two of which won't make it to the playoffs, It was going to be the Vikings or the Rams or the Vikings and excuse me, the Rams or the Seahawks. 00:09:24 Speaker 6: Those were going to be the two teams. I now think it's going to be the Rams. 00:09:27 Speaker 8: And the Seahawks after what we've seen in recent weeks with what the Bears have done, what the Packers are doing, developing into a dangerous offense. I think all

four teams from the NFC North are going to the playoffs. And I think the Rams and the Seahawks are going to be left out in the cold. Currently now, it's all subject to change. Right now, that would be my guess. And right now, that's how it would work out. 00:09:46 Speaker 4: Who improved themselves the most last week? 00:09:48 Speaker 2: You had Quentin Nelson, Jeffrey Simmons deals, and then this week, you know, Kirk Cousins, Jesse Bates, amani hooker josh downs which which playoff class last super bowl contender improved themselves the most over the last 10 days well. 00:10:01 Speaker 8: If we're only focused on 2026 the jaguars went out and they spent big to pick up three guys led by jordan davis and jesse bates jordan davis they gave up a first round pick and a second round pick for a guy who has participated in 52 of the snaps this year that's a huge investment to make for a guy who's on the field half the time. 00:10:21 Speaker 6: But they wanted him. They got him. They needed him. 00:10:24 Speaker 8: They lost one of their run-stuffing defensive tackles, so they had to do it. And Jesse Bates, they gave up a two and a five. That's what the Giants had offered for Jonathan Taylor. I think that's one of the reasons why Taylor wasn't traded. I think the Colts would have been embarrassed to take a two and a five for Taylor when Bates got a two and a five. So if you look at just 2026, I'd say the Jaguars. But if you look at the right balance here and mortgaging the future versus addressing a need and having the dominoes fall just perfectly. 00:10:48 Speaker 6: It is amazing. And I love a great story. 00:10:51 Speaker 8: And I can't think of another time where you've had a team that starts off Hot. 00:10:56 Speaker 6: 6-0. And then the wheels just fall off. And the offense is abysmal on Monday night. And it just so happens. 00:11:01 Speaker 8: By the way, the schedule of the season is laid out. They have a window to try to make a trade. And they're able to wrangle Kirk Cousins for only a third-round pick away from the Raiders. Cousins has a history with the Vikings, history with Kevin O'Connell, history with a lot of the offensive players. And when you look at what that team had been with its defense and not very good offense doing enough to win games, now you potentially. 00:11:25 Speaker 6: Apply the. 00:11:26 Speaker 8: Jumper cables to the offense. The defense is still pretty damn good. It's not championship caliber. You know, it's one of those things where. It seems too perfect to work, but the trade itself seemed too perfect to happen. I think the Vikings, we'll see how it plays out for them. They got two big tests against the Packers and the 49ers, and they may. 00:11:47 Speaker 6: Lose both of those games. 00:11:48 Speaker 8: But if they do, the 6-4 they'll be at, far better position than the 6-4 they would have been with Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz as their options. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I'm on your website, profootballtalk.com, and there's a headline, Cousins Trade Changes Everything for the Vikings. 00:12:04 Speaker 3: I mean, that defense is legit. There's no doubt. 00:12:06 Speaker 1: And I think it's a classic example of an offense sucking the soul out of a defense. What I saw in that game on Monday night. So, I don't know, does this make them a legit contender in the NFC now, in your opinion? 00:12:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it does. 00:12:19 Speaker 8: I mean, look at the moments early in the game where the Vikings made a big play defensively. I'll go to the touchdown pass that we thought Josh Allen was going to throw to D.J. 00:12:29 Speaker 6: Moore. 00:12:30 Speaker 8: Byron Murphy peeled off of his guy, went over, picked it off, ran it out to midfield. 00:12:34 Speaker 6: Vikings are in business. The next play was that awful. 00:12:37 Speaker 8: Lateral that was thrown too high and recovered by the Bills. And every time the defense did something positive, the offense couldn't do anything defensively. 00:12:46 Speaker 6: You have an offense now that's going to be able to do something. 00:12:49 Speaker 8: And if you look back at the last two games, a number of receivers who were wide open, Kyla Murray couldn't hit them. Carson Wentz couldn't hit them. It's a crime that Carson Wentz finished that game. Unless the Vikings were playing 5-D chess and they wanted it to be so bad that they'd go get Kirk Cousins. If so, well done. But it really was a disaster the past couple of games offensively. And it was moving in that direction. This worked out perfectly for them. Those two losses may have set the stage for. 00:13:16 Speaker 6: Having a team that can win in January. Whereas if they had won those two games... Maybe they wouldn't have made that move. 00:13:23 Speaker 8: And eventually they would have found themselves in a spot in the wildcard round, maybe, maybe the divisional round where they just get overwhelmed the way they did on Monday night. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: You know, we were growing up, the baseball trade deadline was the thing. And in the NFL, yeah, you get an occasional Herschel Walker, Eric Dickerson blockbuster, but it was for. 00:13:39 Speaker 4: Most, most years was nothing. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: Why has the NFL trade deadline turned into baseball trade deadline? 00:13:46 Speaker 8: Well, because and look, it takes two in order to make these deals. And I think we have a time right now where there is an equal number of teams willing to mortgage the future in order to get good players now and an equal number of teams that understands, hey, we'll move on from this veteran player because the rookie wage scale that was adopted in 2011 under the collective bargaining agreement, it makes those draft picks so valuable. They are young, cheap, healthy players that you can build around. Teams really want as many picks as they can get. And you'll have teams that understand it's not in the cards for us this year. 00:14:25 Speaker 6: Let's sell

off some of these pieces. And you'll have teams that are thinking, all right, let's go. This is our chance. This is our window. 00:14:32 Speaker 8: And I think the fact that it really does feel like a one year at a time league now. 00:14:36 Speaker 6: And look at how much the. 00:14:37 Speaker 8: Teams change year in and year out. And there is no real job security. If you can get to a Super Bowl or win a Super Bowl, you set yourself up for at least a couple of years of paychecks that you know aren't going to be interrupted by a pink flip. So teams are more tempted to go for it. 00:14:52 Speaker 6: But you need both. You need teams willing to trade. 00:14:56 Speaker 8: And you need teams willing to trade for the players, and lately they've been finding those matches. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: Well, Mike Florio with us, ProFootballTalk.com, courtesy of Simply Seattle. What did you make of Diana Rossini's return? 00:15:10 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. 00:15:14 Speaker 8: Look, I had some things to say on my PST PM podcast over the weekend. 00:15:20 Speaker 6: She's going to be reporting. 00:15:23 Speaker 8: I don't know that I trust anything she reports because there are credibility issues that haven't been addressed. And I'm as troubled by that weird story about FaceTiming with a coach to get out of a ticket. And that was apparently false. Your credibility is everything when you're a reporter. You want people to believe. 00:15:42 Speaker 6: The things you said. 00:15:44 Speaker 8: And I saw the article in People that was very favorable. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. It was a puff piece. there was no effort to ask her any tough questions, but everything that I read in there, like players texting me at 5 a.m. every morning or whatever, like everything I read now, I run through the filter of, is this just another lie? 00:16:06 Speaker 6: And is it a lie built upon a lie built upon a lie? And what do I believe? And it's not my fault. 00:16:12 Speaker 8: She's the one that created credibility issues that are unresolved. And today she didn't address any of it. She's not going to address any of it. She's like, I mean, I say this somewhat lightheartedly and tongue in cheek, but it's kind of like George Costanza when he quit his job and showed up the next day like nothing happened. She's just showing up six months later after she quit her job acting like nothing happened with a tiny little nod to some vague thing that she went through. But it it doesn't do justice to the fact that what she went through was self-created. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: Hmm. Who's going to replace Aikman on Monday Night Football? And are you going to go 27-2 in your next 29 picks? Because if you are, the college savings is going on Mike Florio's picks the next two weeks. 00:16:54 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. People are like, all you're doing is picking the favorites. Hey, I'm picking the teams that I think are going to win. I'm not just picking the favorites. I look

at it. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: And they win. 00:17:02 Speaker 6: Like, what do we do? 00:17:03 Speaker 8: Pick their favorites and say, boy, I hope they lose. I hope that that'll make me look daring. I'm going to go nuts here and, you know, pick the lesser team to win. I just I don't even look at the lines. I just look at the schedule and it's like, who do I think is going to win? This team, this team, this team. 00:17:16 Speaker 6: And look, this is and in all honesty, you guys know how this works. I'm just pulling it out of my butt. And sometimes you're going to get lucky and sometimes you're not. 00:17:26 Speaker 8: And what happens is when someone gets on a streak like that, if they're betting, they delude themselves into thinking it's going to continue. And that sets the stage for the most dangerous thing that you can do as a gambler. I'm speaking to anybody out there who has gambled or is thinking about it, especially the young men. whose brains haven't fully developed yet to appreciate the connection between behavior and what it could lead to. Once you fool yourself into thinking you've figured it out, then when you start losing, you're going to double down and chase your losses because my magic is coming back any day. 00:17:58 Speaker 6: Now, the magic may never come back. 00:18:00 Speaker 8: I may never go 27 and two over two weeks for the rest. 00:18:02 Speaker 6: Of my life. That's the danger of it. 00:18:05 Speaker 8: When it happens once, you think you can do it most of the time. 00:18:09 Speaker 6: And the next thing you know, you're filing for bankruptcy. 00:18:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just afraid we've missed the window, pal, with a 27-2 run. 00:18:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, 27-2 is a pretty good long run. That's pretty epic. No, it's over. 00:18:16 Speaker 6: It's over. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: It is. It's over. You're right. 00:18:19 Speaker 6: I could probably just retire. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: Totally. Just walk away. We're done. Mike, great stuff. We'll talk in a week. See you, man. 00:18:25 Speaker 6: All right, see you guys. 00:18:26 Speaker 1: All right, Mike Florio, we're going to break. Factor Fiction brought to you by the Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel. Speaking of betting, it's Jackson's Day. Will he play another under? We'll find out coming up next. Fun with audio as well. At 345 and then Petros at 4. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: Lots to go over. 00:18:43 Speaker 1: With Petros on the state of college football in L.A. What's going on with the Dawgs? All that and more at 4 o'clock with Petros on 93.3 KJRFM. Now back to Softie and Dick as we salute our veterans. 00:18:59 Speaker 6: Today to remember all of our veterans who fought. 00:19:03 Speaker 3: For our freedom. From Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM. 00:19:07 Speaker 6: Our hearts go out to the families, the friends, and fellow soldiers. 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So Factor Fiction coming up in a matter of seconds here. on the program we'll do a little fun with audio and then Petros at four so Mike Florio last segment says he thinks every team in the NFC North will make the playoffs And he says he thinks the Seahawks and Rams are cooked. They're going to miss it. Hawks and Rams will miss the postseason, says Mike Florio. If he were a Seahawks fan, we'd pull his card right now, say you're done, you're cooked, never allowed ever. 00:20:11 Speaker 3: Again into Lumen Field. I mean, I guess I would just ask it this way. 00:20:15 Speaker 1: As much as we still have faith in what this team can do, because we just saw them do it a year ago, right? We saw them kind of rise from the dead with their running game a year ago, which at this time was not looking very good. Then they caught fire in November, December, took off like a rocket and went to the Super Bowl. So we're kind of hoping for the same thing. The defense, I got no problem with the defense, right? I mean, the defense did have some breakdowns against Chicago. The red zone's got to be cleaned up. But for the most part, the defense is still, can we all agree, kick ass in Seattle? 00:20:43 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:20:43 Speaker 1: Okay, they'll be fine. This is on the offense, right? For the most part, it's on the offense. And it kind of feels like the same thing is happening over on Montlake, that I just think the offense is sucking the soul out of the defense. And you saw the way they've been playing. They can't get off the field. They're tired, whatever. The offense can't sustain drives. It really does feel like the Seahawks and Huskies are, again, having some of the same issues at the same time. I like the reinforcements coming for the offense. Charles Cross, Quentin Nelson, Rashid Shahid, Sam Darnold, Charbonnet and Price just got back. I mean, compare what this team looked like, Dick, two weeks ago to what they should look like in a month from now or even three weeks from now. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: Totally different. Absolutely. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: I mean, I disagree with Mike because I look at the Rams schedule. The Rams aren't right, period. I think there's a difference between where the Seahawks are and where the Rams are. I mean, the Rams aren't right even when they're healthy. I think we think the Seahawks are right when they're healthy. I mean, how many games do the Rams have between now and the end

of the year where we're sure that the Rams are the better team of the two? 00:21:46 Speaker 3: Right, but he said they're done. He said the Rams will miss it. So what do you disagree with? 00:21:50 Speaker 2: Well, I think that the Seahawks are better than the Vikings. 00:21:54 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: I mean, I would rank it Seattle, Minnesota, the Rams of those three. 00:22:00 Speaker 3: Gotcha. Okay. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: I mean, Minnesota's schedule is not as tough as the Rams. 00:22:05 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:22:06 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: I just think if you're going to tell me Kirk Cousins is going to come in and instantaneously be just as good as like Sam Darnold. 00:22:14 Speaker 3: Right. 00:22:15 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:22:15 Speaker 3: Right. 00:22:16 Speaker 2: Then maybe I can give you Minnesota, but I'm just not sure that you can just plug and play Kirk Cousins and he automatically makes them a team that can go, you know, six and two down the stretch. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: Well, we do know this. He'll be better than Carson Wentz. We do know that. 00:22:30 Speaker 1: I mean, that was like, guys, you're going to hear Kevin Harlan at five o'clock tonight and you're going to be shocked. 00:22:36 Speaker 3: At how he talks about Carson Wentz. Oh, boy. 00:22:39 Speaker 1: I mean, he was there doing the game on Monday, and it was almost like he morphed into talk show guy, right? I mean, it's unbelievable at five. And Kevin Harlan is the nicest, sweetheart. He doesn't like to do that. You guys know that. And when he does it, you better be terrible. So I want you to listen to Harden at five and the way he talks about Carson Wentz. I guess my thing with the Seahawks is this. They got games on the schedule that they're not supposed to lose, like this game Sunday. Can we agree on that? You're a six-and-a-half point favorite on the road. Vegas thinks you're basically ten points better than the opponent. You can't lose this game. Dallas on Monday night at home with their defense. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: Can't lose that game. You can't lose. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: The Giants at home can't lose. At Philadelphia, you cannot lose. That team is toast. There are games that you've already spent your breakfast ball, right? 00:23:30 Speaker 6: Yes. 00:23:31 Speaker 3: And you don't get any more. You get one on the first tee, and then you're done. That was Washington. 00:23:36 Speaker 1: So they've got to stop that, man. That crap's got to, in the words of Dick Baird, they've got to stop doing that right now. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: They've got to stop doing that right now. He's got to stop doing that right now. 00:23:47 Speaker 1: If they just take care of the games they're not supposed to lose and they win them all, then they should be fine. They should be an 11-win team, and I think firmly in the playoff hunt. 00:23:56 Speaker 3: Get to Factor Fiction right now. We're set to go. 00:23:58 Speaker 4: Glad you're with us. 00:23:59 Speaker 7: It's your shot at our weekly $ 1, 000 and the $ 10, 000 grand prize. 00:24:05 Speaker 3: It's Fact or Fiction. 00:24:07 Speaker 7: Proudly presented by Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel, where every day feels lucky. 00:24:12 Speaker 3: Fact or Fiction is on. 00:24:14 Speaker 4: Sports Radio 93.3. 00:24:15 Speaker 7: KJR FM. 00:24:18 Speaker 1: All right, I don't know if we have a real good shot at all of winning this thing, guys. 00:24:22 Speaker 3: We are with, is this week 10? Is that right, Jackson? 00:24:24 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're in no chance. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: We've got five weeks left to go, and we are nine games back of the Greg G-G-G-Gabelle show in the win column. 00:24:33 Speaker 3: It is about percentages because. 00:24:35 Speaker 1: Some shows have less picks than others because of football games and hockey and all kinds of stuff like that. But if we're going to do this, we've got to go on a roll. Like, we are eight, nine games out in the West with, you know, September just starting. We've got to get on a roll. So it's Wednesday. It's Jackson's Day. Lost last week on the under in the Niners-Raiders game. Won the previous week on the under in the Vikings-Lions game. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: Who do you like this week, big boy? 00:24:59 Speaker 5: I came into this week with four loves and unders. Dick, you got them one of those four yesterday with the Seahawks-Raiders. I'm going to go to number two on the list. Number two on the list is Bill's Jets. That number is right out 51. It's a Bill's defense that's getting much better. I think not only Carson Wentz bad, but it's what the Bill's defense did to him. They also just added, I think, a safety from the Titans hooker, right? So that Bill's defense is getting better. I think it's a Jets defense that's okay. Josh Allen's also making a lot of really uncharacteristic mistakes this year. You think about the interception he had to Byron Murphy. Very odd for Josh Allen, this kind of stuff, all throughout this year. So, I mean, under 51, Bills-Jets. I think it falls somewhere in the 40 range. 00:25:45 Speaker 1: And that's in New York, right? Or New Jersey, Meadowlands. Under 51, Bills-Jets is the play. You like it, you text in fact. You hate it, you text in fiction. To 49451, Bills are 4-0 on the road this year, by the way. So their offense should be clicking against the Jets. They've won four straight. The Jets are obviously going nowhere. 00:26:04 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I like it. 00:26:06 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I like it if it was, you know, 54 and 55. But I think we're pushing right against the number of what that number should be like. The Bills, I will tell you this right now, have scored 30 points or more in six of the eight games they've played. So they're going to be taking up a large chunk of that 51 by themselves. 00:26:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just need to do defensively to the Jets what Kansas City did last week and hold them to 12. I mean, the Jets have– there's plenty of games I'm

looking to where the Jets have scored 12, 17, 10, 19. 00:26:38 Speaker 4: So, yeah, keep them in the teens. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: You're all right. All right. 00:26:41 Speaker 1: Under 51, right, is the number in the Bills-Jets game. You like it, fact, you hate it, fiction to 49451, all courtesy of the Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel. 00:26:48 Speaker 3: Listen up. 00:26:49 Speaker 1: Every week we give you a game every day. Sorry, 335. Every show does it. 735, 1135, 235, 335. 20 times a week. All you got to do is just listen and you send one pick in a week. And if you get it right, you're eligible for a $ 1, 000 weekly prize. Just get one out of 20. That's pretty terrible odds. All we ask is that you just get one right. You can get one right by waking up and putting your pants on, man. So get one right a week on any show. Out of 20 picks, and you're in the hopper for $ 1, 000. Most picks right by the end of the year wins $ 10, 000, courtesy of the Lucky Eel Casino and Hotel, where every day feels lucky. 00:27:26 Speaker 3: We're going to break. A little fun with audio, and then Petros at 4 on 93.3 KJRFM. 00:27:34 Speaker 7: It's time for Fun with Audio, brought to you by Emerald Queen Casino. Bet, watch, and win at the EQC Sportsbook. Visit EmeraldQueen.com for details. Emerald Queen Casino, always entertaining, and by Blumetree experts, trusted and certified pros specializing in tree pruning and tree removal. Contact one of their arborists today at 206-714-9835 or Blumetree.com. 00:27:56 Speaker 3: Now, Fun with Audio. 00:28:02 Speaker 1: You ever walk by Bucky's vending machine down the hall here, by the way, and just see those powdered donuts and want to grab them and just shove them right. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: In your pie hole? 00:28:11 Speaker 4: Are they the chocolate or the powder? 00:28:12 Speaker 3: They got both. Oh, they got both. 00:28:14 Speaker 5: So up until about a month and a half ago... Bucky had those at 95 cents. 00:28:19 Speaker 3: Oh, come on. 00:28:20 Speaker 4: I missed it. I bought five packs and stuffed them in my desk. 00:28:23 Speaker 3: Good for you. 00:28:24 Speaker 4: Does Bucky set the prices on those? 00:28:26 Speaker 5: And he noticed that I bought five, and then he came in the next time and said, screw you, I'm changing the price. 00:28:31 Speaker 3: That son of a bitch. He did. 00:28:33 Speaker 2: Really? 00:28:33 Speaker 3: He actually said that. He knows what we all make around here. 00:28:35 Speaker 4: That's ludicrous. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: Are they still there in your desk, by the way? 00:28:39 Speaker 4: I took them home. 00:28:40 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:28:41 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say you bought them out and took them all home with you. 00:28:44 Speaker 3: Why not? Cheaper than 7-Eleven. That's for sure. 00:28:47 Speaker 4: I would feel bad if I took more than five. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: Oh, God. 00:28:49 Speaker 1: Is there anything better than a good powdered donut when it gets all over your shirt

and everything, your face, your fingers? 00:28:55 Speaker 3: So good. All right, well, whatever. I'm just talking like a fat guy again. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that, Dick? 00:29:01 Speaker 1: Back on the 6th of May this year, ESPN's Paul Feinbaum joined David Cohn's On 3 podcast. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: You know what David Cohn's famous for, by the way? 00:29:10 Speaker 6: Yes, I do. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: In the bullpen? 00:29:11 Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: Look it up. 00:29:12 Speaker 1: And discussed his frustrations with the college football playoff potentially expanding. 00:29:17 Speaker 9: Even at 24 teams, the college football playoff would still be the most exclusive postseason. I mean, where do you stand on this college football playoff expansion? It's utterly ridiculous. It's one thing in college basketball to go to 76. It's not really changing anything. 00:29:32 Speaker 6: But this doesn't make very much sense. 00:29:34 Speaker 9: And we had a guest on the other day, Kevin Clark, who said to anybody who knows anything. about college football would not be in favor of it and it's an access grab that should not happen in the sport like football where we used to have two and then just a couple years ago we had four and now we have 12 and and to double that and let eight and four teams in a playoff when they don't belong there is completely absurd. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: By the way this is. 00:30:02 Speaker 1: The David Cohen that he's talking to is not the Michigan quarterback. 00:30:08 Speaker 4: You got the wrong Randy Moss? 00:30:10 Speaker 1: Not the guy that spanked his salami at Shea Stadium. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: It's a different guy, all right? Book the white Randy Moss! 00:30:16 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Look, I mean, I think the CFP expanding... I think this is the kind of thing that everybody talks about. Can we just let it play out and see what it looks like? Everyone's got a take on this, right? They all thought the 12th team thing was going to be a disaster and, you. 00:30:32 Speaker 3: Know, whatever. 00:30:32 Speaker 4: I'm going to interrupt here. 00:30:33 Speaker 3: No, I got you. I'm going to go to the next one. Yes, yes. So let's stay on that topic. 00:30:37 Speaker 1: So now let's fast forward to yesterday on ESPN's Get Up show. Here's what Paul Feinbaum now says about the 2014 playoff. 00:30:45 Speaker 3: Do you think the 2014 is a good idea? 00:30:47 Speaker 4: I do. 00:30:48 Speaker 9: College football has now taken on the NFL model. And some may not like it who sit in ivory towers. But I think it's a great thing because the NFL is the best show in the world. 00:30:57 Speaker 3: And now college football in late November. 00:30:59 Speaker 9: We'll be arguing over home field advantage, wild card games. It's so many dramatic moments in time. And, yes, I'm a traditionalist, but I really like where we're going. 00:31:09 Speaker 1: Okay, so five months ago he hated it. Now he loves it. The obvious answer is, well, he works for ESPN. And somebody at ESPN got to him and said, look, Dumbo, you better change your mind on this thing or you're out of here. It's also possible, it is possible, to give him a little bit of a break that he just changed his mind. 00:31:27 Speaker 3: Right? I mean, that happens. You evolve. You change your opinion. You find out more intel, whatever. 00:31:31 Speaker 1: But I think people seeing that would say, Jackson and Dick, he works for ESPN. 00:31:35 Speaker 3: Of course he's going to support it now. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: I don't work for ESPN, and I have the exact same opinion as Paul Feinbaum now, and I had the exact same opinion as Paul Feinbaum five months ago. 00:31:46 Speaker 3: You didn't like it five months ago. 00:31:46 Speaker 4: I didn't like it when it came out. 00:31:48 Speaker 3: Right. 00:31:48 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, wait a second. I'm doing the pros and cons of this. 00:31:52 Speaker 2: There's... way more pros than there is cons in my opinion so yeah let's give it a go yeah i i. 00:31:58 Speaker 1: Think it's going to work out good i like it to be honest with you i think it's going to get a lot more fan bases involved in the playoff i mean let me ask you this has the expansion of the mlb playoffs been good or bad for baseball it's been great for baseball And Bud Selig's a bozo. But what he did, that was the best thing he ever did, was expand it. Because now you got half the league in September thinks they got a shot. Games are getting sold out. Fans are getting excited. The games are on TV or whatever, blah, blah, blah. I think the more teams that you can get into a playoff, the better. Now, again, we may be wrong on that. Dick and I were watching the Michigan State-Duke game last night, right? Which, you know, both those teams are going to be in the tournament. Nobody's playing for a spot in the tournament. Correct, but they're playing hard that night. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: But we still enjoyed watching it. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: So are we going to get to a point in three, four years from now where Alabama, Georgia in week three may not necessarily be for a playoff spot, but it's damn good football and we're going to watch anyway. 00:32:52 Speaker 4: Just to go from a quote, utterly ridiculous. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: Right. 00:32:56 Speaker 4: To people in the ivory tower. 00:32:57 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: That was you, buddy. 00:32:59 Speaker 6: I know. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Totally. Talking about himself. All right. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that, Dick? Oh, you're late on that. 00:33:05 Speaker 6: I was. 00:33:06 Speaker 3: Let's try it again. Hey, Dick, you happen to hear that? What's that, Dick? What's that, Dick? Last night in college football action. You mean Maction. 00:33:12 Speaker 1: The Miami of Ohio Redhawks hosted Tony Castricone's alma mater, the Ohio Bobcats. Right before the first half came to a close, the Bobcats missed a field goal. But an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was called on Miami of Ohio because their home stadium, Jumbotron, did you see this dick, by the way? Displayed three additional sets of goalposts directly behind the actual goalposts. Here's how the situation sounded with referee Rick Warren and the ESPN broadcast. 00:33:44 Speaker 9: There are depictions of the field goal uprights on the scoreboard. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: That is a foul for. 00:33:50 Speaker 9: Unsportslike conduct against Miami. 00:33:53 Speaker 3: Half of this is to the goal. 00:33:56 Speaker 9: Wow. 00:33:58 Speaker 10: So on the video board, they had pictures of like four field goal posts. I don't know if we have a look at that, but I don't know if... You know, I've been doing this a long time. I've never seen this called, ever. You're saying that that's confusing for the kicker? 00:34:18 Speaker 3: Wow. That's amazing. 00:34:20 Speaker 4: I've got to look at that video. 00:34:22 Speaker 3: I have never seen it either. 00:34:24 Speaker 1: I mean, the question is, have they done it before and just gotten away with it? 00:34:28 Speaker 3: Or was this the first time? 00:34:29 Speaker 5: The team that became famous for doing it was the Patriots in the Belichick era. 00:34:33 Speaker 4: They did it all the time at Foxborough. 00:34:35 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 00:34:36 Speaker 5: Did you know that? It was allowed at Foxborough. but i guess the so. 00:34:41 Speaker 1: Imagine the goal post and then the jumbotron right behind it has four pictures of another goal post so the guy's like whoa where the hell am i kicking the ball i mean how far do you go you find out the kicker's ex-girlfriend or his current girlfriend and put a picture ai of her making out with some random dude right just throw it up there the minute the guy goes to kick the ball i mean it's kind of funny is it not i loved it what the hell it's You know what? Without them doing that last night, you think we're talking about the Miami of Ohio game? 00:35:09 Speaker 2: We are not. 00:35:09 Speaker 3: Of course we're not. All right, we got time for one more? 00:35:11 Speaker 6: No, we don't. 00:35:12 Speaker 3: All right, we're going to break. Petros Papadakis going to join next on 93.3 KJRFM.