Full Transcript for Why High Achievers Struggle to Start Over—Dr. Kim Dang Explains

the thing I mean you're a coach and so you help people. 00:03:52.566 --> 00:03:58.992 This is the kind of no nonsense kind of thing that you point out in people Like, hey, you're doing that, that's dumb, don't do that. 00:03:59.939 --> 00:04:01.282 Well, but everyone has a choice. 00:04:01.282 --> 00:04:05.551 You know you pick and choose your spices, right? 00:04:05.551 --> 00:04:35.002 It is, it is true, and you pick and choose them, hopefully according to your plans and your goals, and that's kind of what I'm coaching, because you can drink decaf all day long if you want to, is you know, if your focus is somewhere else, then, um then, uh, then your health my focus is all over the place. 00:04:35.021 --> 00:04:38.350 Sometimes I think a lot of people, a lot of entrepreneurs, struggle with focus because of what I'll call entrepreneurial ADD. 00:04:39.213 --> 00:04:44.170 Oh, absolutely, it's a high achiever disease, right, achiever disease sounds better, high achiever disease right, high achiever disease sounds better. 00:04:44.170 --> 00:04:46.218 High achiever disease. 00:04:46.218 --> 00:04:56.129 Where you just want to go for the next one and the next and the next and you're just like really scared that you're not living up to your full potential that is? 00:04:56.389 --> 00:04:59.134 uh, yes, that's very true. 00:04:59.134 --> 00:05:01.225 I play a sport called racquetball. 00:05:01.225 --> 00:05:02.709 It's nerdy, I get it everyone. 00:05:02.709 --> 00:05:04.607 You can't make fun of me because I played it through high school and you cannot get made fun of more by called racquetball. 00:05:04.607 --> 00:05:04.766 It's nerdy, I get it Everyone. 00:05:04.766 --> 00:05:06.696 You can't make fun of me because I played it through high school and you cannot get made fun of more by playing racquetball. 00:05:06.696 --> 00:05:10.029 But when you're, when you're my size, people don't usually make fun of me. 00:05:10.029 --> 00:05:13.389 But the point is I know this because I went out to start playing again. 00:05:13.389 --> 00:05:30.637 I'm 49 and I'm trying to play like I was 18 again and I'm gonna tell how did you tell it? 00:05:30.637 --> 00:05:31.199 Tear your Achilles. 00:05:31.841 --> 00:05:41.822 A joke because it happened during pickleball, pickleball, pickleball, yes, yes, All right For those listening. 00:05:42.886 --> 00:05:46.112 Dr Kim Dang is not like you know, 450 pounds. 00:05:46.112 --> 00:05:47.904 Looks like she's never like walked in her life. 00:05:47.904 --> 00:05:53.127 So how did you tell her, like Tara and Kaylee's, this isn't the first sport you've ever played, is it? 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.064 No, I was really fit. 00:05:55.064 --> 00:05:57.331 I was going to the gym three times a week. 00:05:57.331 --> 00:06:00.668 I was, you know, lifting weights. 00:06:00.668 --> 00:06:04.024 I was in a really great shape, I really don't know how it happened. 00:06:04.024 --> 00:06:06.750 And we were winning too. 00:06:06.750 --> 00:06:18.930 That was the tragic of all that we were winning and I just heard a plop and that was it, and I tried to kind of sell it to my doctor that it was during tennis. 00:06:18.930 --> 00:06:25.624 But then he was like, yeah, injury. 00:06:25.624 --> 00:06:30.442 I'm sorry to tell you, it was a tv doctor, dr jordan metzel. 00:06:30.442 --> 00:06:31.464 That was even worse. 00:06:31.464 --> 00:06:33.088 He was like. 00:06:33.088 --> 00:06:33.788 He looked at me. 00:06:33.788 --> 00:06:38.404 I was like, yeah, pickleball pickleball got you pickleball. 00:06:38.425 --> 00:06:40.108 You know, uh, pickleball I I injured. 00:06:40.108 --> 00:06:46.850 To be fair, um, I was gonna ask you if you ever played a racket sport, because a lot of people who get injured in pickleball never played a racket sport because of the turning. 00:06:46.850 --> 00:06:49.083 But you said you were playing tennis. 00:06:49.083 --> 00:06:53.994 So that is really rare because usually people who play a racket sport come over and can handle the movement. 00:06:53.994 --> 00:06:58.709 Did you do it going into the kitchen or avoiding the kitchen? 00:06:59.903 --> 00:07:00.451 What do you mean? 00:07:00.451 --> 00:07:00.920 Avoiding the kitchen? 00:07:01.060 --> 00:07:02.365 In pickleball, that little area. 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:03.365 Oh, that little thing. 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:04.843 It's called the kitchen. 00:07:05.285 --> 00:07:06.408 No, it was outside the kitchen. 00:07:06.408 --> 00:07:13.487 It was like I really don't remember it happened all so fast yeah. 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.569 My first day playing pickleball, I did pop the arch in my foot. 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.007 And obviously I'm not a professional pickleball player. 00:07:19.007 --> 00:07:22.125 Otherwise I would have known what a kitchen is, but I don't. 00:07:22.726 --> 00:07:24.430 It's ruining the podcast. 00:07:24.670 --> 00:07:26.392 I was like ruining it all, yeah. 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:32.021 All right, let's do this. 00:07:32.021 --> 00:07:33.166 Let's shift to the conversation at hand here. 00:07:33.166 --> 00:07:37.201 Let's start, though, with you know, talk, what are you doing today at the artiststartingoverus, and you know that's your, that's your website. 00:07:37.201 --> 00:07:38.463 But what are you doing today? 00:07:38.463 --> 00:07:41.829 And back up to kind of how you got there, give us your journey story. 00:07:42.350 --> 00:07:43.011 Yeah, of course. 00:07:43.011 --> 00:07:44.273 So I'm again. 00:07:44.273 --> 00:07:45.254 I'm Dr Kim Dang. 00:07:45.579 --> 00:08:16.509 I found a dark runner and my company is kind of dedicated to bringing freedom and truth to the world through mind bending movie productions, but recently also through transformative performance coaching, and I developed, based on my proprietary methods, two programs called Quiet, wealth Creation and the Art of Starting Over, where I really empower high achievers to radically invent and elevate their lives and,

with that, the lives of everyone around them. 00:08:16.509 --> 00:08:25.091 And so my driving forces are really truth and freedom, and by truth I mean truth with a capital T, the inner truth. 00:08:25.091 --> 00:08:35.399 That's why I want to support individuals who are making radical changes in their lives and, you know, may not receive the understanding nor the support from their surroundings. 00:08:35.399 --> 00:09:04.413 I think that is very typical of high achievers, because they are driven usually by incentives, by encouragement from the parents, from the surroundings, and so it's really hard for people who have had a lot of success in their lives to really tune in and realize what they really want, and especially if they realize that they're kind of on the wrong track. 00:09:04.413 --> 00:09:07.163 So that's where I come in. 00:09:07.243 --> 00:09:11.153 So my entrepreneurial journey happened, probably. 00:09:11.153 --> 00:09:29.024 I have to say Valentine's Day 2013 was a pretty traumatic Valentine's Day for me because after dinner, what was supposed to be a romantic dinner with my then partner he he got up, grabbed his jacket and left. 00:09:29.024 --> 00:09:34.813 He left the apartment, not only the apartment, but the relationship for good without even saying a word. 00:09:34.813 --> 00:09:38.182 And On. 00:09:38.202 --> 00:09:38.884 Valentine's. 00:09:39.765 --> 00:09:41.549 Which is now the holiday of darkness for you. 00:09:41.769 --> 00:09:43.413 Yes, the holiday of darkness. 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.509 A long time it's been the holiday of whatever it's um, because you know you're married. 00:09:49.509 --> 00:09:51.926 It just it should be nicer, but it's like, it's like. 00:09:51.926 --> 00:09:53.731 It's like an expensive night to go out for anyway. 00:09:53.731 --> 00:09:55.984 The point being, is he left you? 00:09:55.984 --> 00:10:00.812 Yes after dinner back home yes grab the jacket. 00:10:00.812 --> 00:10:03.065 Didn't even grab his stuff or just took it and it like I'm good. 00:10:04.870 --> 00:10:06.582 Yeah, he just took everything. 00:10:06.582 --> 00:10:07.605 What's his? 00:10:07.645 --> 00:10:07.826 name. 00:10:07.826 --> 00:10:08.568 What's embarrassing? 00:10:08.568 --> 00:10:09.871 Who's the guy, what's his name? 00:10:09.871 --> 00:10:11.346 No one should ever date this guy. 00:10:12.782 --> 00:10:17.272 I'm going to send it to you secretly after this show yeah. 00:10:17.393 --> 00:10:20.167 All right, I'll take some good practice here and not be mean. 00:10:20.307 --> 00:10:20.850 All right. 00:10:21.461 --> 00:10:22.322 Did you ever follow up? 00:10:22.322 --> 00:10:28.073 I gotta just I'm gonna dive into that just for a second, because it's so I've never heard I thought that was legendary, that that would ever happen. 00:10:28.073 --> 00:10:30.624 Um, or fable, or folklore. 00:10:30.624 --> 00:10:33.028 Did you ever talk to him afterwards? 00:10:33.229 --> 00:10:45.094 hey, you know what, after I didn't talk to him for almost 10 years and recently I sat down for coffee with him yeah, See coffee. 00:10:45.094 --> 00:10:46.054 Yeah. 00:10:47.341 --> 00:10:49.966 Did you give him decaf, just in case you might have poisoned him just a little bit? 00:10:49.966 --> 00:10:51.110 Yeah, I wanted to. 00:10:51.551 --> 00:10:52.352 I really wanted to. 00:10:52.352 --> 00:10:58.744 He's got a mocktail, though All right. 00:10:58.803 --> 00:10:59.927 Do you want to share the reason? 00:10:59.927 --> 00:11:05.186 Huh, do you want to share what his reason was of why he got up? 00:11:05.547 --> 00:11:14.231 um word, I don't, I don't think it matters honestly um I've never had someone cry on the show. 00:11:14.251 --> 00:11:34.052 I told you that I'm gonna try to get someone to cry on this dang show at some point yeah, I know, I know maybe I'm gonna cry later on, but, um, yeah, at that point it definitely also didn't matter, because what mattered then was just like this happened to me, and you know, from the outside, at that point I have to like wind back a little bit. 00:11:34.052 --> 00:11:40.460 At that point I was math professor at Yale, assistant math professor at Yale. 00:11:40.460 --> 00:11:50.168 I was researching and random matrix theory, which is kind of, you know, probability theory, number theory, a little bit of quantum physics. 00:11:50.168 --> 00:11:54.421 So I was kind of at the start of my career. 00:11:54.421 --> 00:11:58.927 It seemed like people were very excited about my research. 00:11:58.927 --> 00:12:12.951 I was hanging out with heavyweights in my research field, amongst others Terry Tao, like whoever knows a little bit about math knows usually who Terry Tao is. 00:12:12.951 --> 00:12:17.442 So I had a beautiful penthouse apartment in New Haven. 00:12:17.442 --> 00:12:22.668 I really just published two significant papers. 00:12:23.730 --> 00:12:34.472 So internally though, I felt pretty bad leading up to that Valentine's Day I moved from Switzerland, where I grew up and where my parents and my friends are. 00:12:34.472 --> 00:12:37.202 I moved to the US, to New Haven. 00:12:37.202 --> 00:12:41.148 I couldn't quite, you know, find my mojo. 00:12:41.148 --> 00:12:52.089 I, yeah, I just felt like I was in a wrong place at a wrong time and a wrong career, and the worst of all was that I really felt I shouldn't. 00:12:52.089 --> 00:12:54.173 I shouldn't feel like this, right? 00:12:54.173 --> 00:13:02.883 I mean, how wonderful is it to be working at Yale in such a wonderful environment amongst so wonderful and talented people? 00:13:02.883 --> 00:13:15.561 But I felt completely off and first I thought, okay, maybe it's just because I'm a woman in STEM and it's a male-dominated field, maybe it's because of that. 00:13:15.561 --> 00:13:32.090 So what I tried to do then is I approached a provost at Yale and asked her if I could run a coaching program for minority faculty at Yale, and it turned out to be a very successful endeavor. 00:13:32.090 -->

00:13:38.145 I had many female mostly female professors in my coaching program. 00:13:38.145 --> 00:13:55.400 Amongst others, the department head of biochemistry, then a former NASA researcher, now astrophysics professor at Yale, an architecture professor, like all tenures and I felt very, you know, honored to be in such a companionship. 00:13:55.500 --> 00:13:57.144 But it didn't quite change. 00:13:57.144 --> 00:14:02.410 So then I tried to okay, I look for other jobs outside of academia. 00:14:02.410 --> 00:14:05.936 Wall Street wanted to hire me. 00:14:05.936 --> 00:14:16.711 I job interviewed for them with Google, with Microsoft, you name it but it didn't quite shake the feeling that I wasn't in the right place. 00:14:16.711 --> 00:14:20.767 So that was kind of leading up to the breakup. 00:14:21.008 --> 00:14:29.725 When my then boyfriend stood up and left me and that was kind of the final straw, I was like I don't want to do this anymore. 00:14:29.725 --> 00:14:30.746 This is crap. 00:14:30.746 --> 00:14:31.828 What am I going to do? 00:14:31.828 --> 00:14:35.335 So fast forward. 00:14:35.335 --> 00:14:40.528 Two weeks later I had sold most of my stuff. 00:14:40.528 --> 00:14:45.066 I don't know even how I did that in two weeks, but I sold most of my stuff. 00:14:45.066 --> 00:14:58.505 I packed the rest in a U-Haul truck, I drove myself from New Haven to Manhattan and moved into a tiny little shoebox in Lower East Side and I still, you know, commuted to Yale. 00:14:58.605 --> 00:15:03.171 I was still a professor at Yale, but I kind of completely started over. 00:15:03.171 --> 00:15:15.870 And then I started over again a few, yeah, probably a year later, after really thinking about it. 00:15:15.870 --> 00:15:24.889 I started over as a production assistant on film sets in New York and people didn't know where I came from. 00:15:24.889 --> 00:15:27.883 I didn't tell anyone what my background was at that point. 00:15:27.883 --> 00:15:30.729 I was still kind of, you know, professor at Yale. 00:15:30.729 --> 00:15:37.509 But then in real life I would bring coffee and to the producers on set, lock up sets. 00:15:37.509 --> 00:15:46.876 And I was spending one day I think it was in a blue blood set of blacklist, one of the police tv shows in New York. 00:15:46.876 --> 00:16:16.221 I spent an entire day after um, yeah, uh, an entire day, uh, behind a garbage can in the scorching sun, locking up a stunt scene for like eight hours and I thought like while I was smelling the garbage and I was sweating, I couldn't go pee. 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.065 I was thinking, if my parents could see me now, you could go pee. 00:16:18.065 --> 00:16:22.092 It is New York, so you could just go behind a no one would have to ask for permission. 00:16:22.092 --> 00:16:25.056 No you can go by the dumpster and be like I don't know. 00:16:25.096 --> 00:16:27.638 No, that's why you don't drink on sets usually. 00:16:27.638 --> 00:16:29.729 You just try not to go pee. 00:16:30.381 --> 00:16:31.453 Definitely don't drink decaf. 00:16:33.004 --> 00:16:36.306 Yeah, no, definitely also not decaf, that's, coffee is the worst. 00:16:37.522 --> 00:16:40.909 I don't think you like coffee, because you were having a coffee when you broke up. 00:16:40.909 --> 00:16:41.572 That's what happened. 00:16:41.572 --> 00:16:43.745 You're having a coffee in that moment. 00:16:43.745 --> 00:16:46.629 You're about to have a nice sip of coffee and he's like I'm going and you're like what? 00:16:46.629 --> 00:16:47.961 And you're thinking he's going to. 00:16:47.961 --> 00:16:50.504 He went for milk, never came home. 00:16:50.524 --> 00:16:51.485 That's traumatic, all right you. 00:16:52.125 --> 00:16:52.785 That's traumatic. 00:16:52.785 --> 00:17:00.254 All right, you started over and you, you you're intentionally trying to find like the, the the least glorious. 00:17:00.254 --> 00:17:05.702 I mean cause, yale professor, like I mean that's like people that gets the people's attention, just period. 00:17:05.702 --> 00:17:08.924 I mean, obviously you're smart cause you do math too and you were talking about things that people are like. 00:17:08.924 --> 00:17:13.750 No one I had to probably majority of audience is like who but um? 00:17:13.750 --> 00:17:18.300 Were you intentionally looking for some kind of completely different career field or what? 00:17:18.300 --> 00:17:18.862 What was the? 00:17:18.862 --> 00:17:19.884 You know, how are you? 00:17:19.884 --> 00:17:20.385 How do you? 00:17:21.608 --> 00:17:22.570 you're kind of hiding. 00:17:22.611 --> 00:17:23.601 You weren't saying this is who I am. 00:17:23.601 --> 00:17:26.267 You're trying to become something new yeah right, yeah yeah. 00:17:27.028 --> 00:17:29.442 Well, people were asking me how did you do that? 00:17:29.442 --> 00:17:33.289 How do you switch from math to film and um? 00:17:33.289 --> 00:17:34.172 So I went back. 00:17:34.172 --> 00:17:45.023 You know, with my math brain I really figured out the patterns of what I actually did and how it came to it, because for me it was a process and that was very solid. 00:17:45.023 --> 00:17:49.303 I knew what I was doing, I knew what I was going for and it paid out. 00:17:49.303 --> 00:17:54.963 You know, years later I became a film producer and I'm really happy, I'm happier than ever before. 00:17:54.963 --> 00:18:08.784 But there was a process to it, although from the outside I understand it sounded, it seemed, it looked like I kind of lost my mind, but I assure you I didn't. 00:18:08.784 --> 00:18:20.910 So I went back, analyzed it, built a structure to it and I use that structure, the art of starting over on myself, whenever I have to overhaul a certain area in my life. 00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:22.152 I use it all the time. 00:18:23.273 --> 00:18:30.695 Yeah, well, I mean good for you, because some people could have crawled in the hole and just been angry, or you could do something with it, and you're not even that.

00:18:30.736 --> 00:18:41.306 You're monitoring it or just force themselves, you know, to keep going in math or kind of trying to tweak it a little bit so it's a little bit more reasonable to the outside. 00:18:41.306 --> 00:18:50.381 Again, if I would have ended up with google and microsoft, I would have done exactly that right, it would just be a little bit of turning the corner a little bit. 00:18:50.381 --> 00:18:56.354 But what I did it was like okay, I have to reassess the entirety of my life and exactly, and the fact that you've made. 00:18:56.349 --> 00:19:09.988 So I think from an entrepreneur standpoint okay, I have to reassess the entirety of my life Exactly, and the fact that you've made so, I think from an entrepreneur standpoint, I think kind of the takeaway I love to find these is something can happen in your life that could be negative, and you could have had this career plan and these plans for life, and it could be anything. 00:19:09.988 --> 00:19:18.586 It was a boyfriend breaking up with you, or it could be a loss of family, or who knows fire that burns down your house or something there's. 00:19:18.586 --> 00:19:19.491 There's a few ways you can go with it. 00:19:19.491 --> 00:19:29.243 You can learn something from it and do something with it, or not, and that's where sometimes people's businesses get born out of is our pain. 00:19:29.243 --> 00:19:30.268 It's it's like, you know, it's the. 00:19:30.268 --> 00:19:32.394 You know. 00:19:32.414 --> 00:19:36.227 I got tired of this happening to me all the time, so I started a company to solve that problem. 00:19:36.227 --> 00:19:37.810 I assume everyone else had that problem. 00:19:37.810 --> 00:19:39.700 Whatever it is, I think what you did there is brilliant. 00:19:39.700 --> 00:19:51.685 My guess is you're probably going to do this more than once, or you have the same kind of thing when you first started your business. 00:19:51.685 --> 00:19:55.513 What was the first problem at that time you were solving? 00:19:58.361 --> 00:20:00.608 Really, my business started with me. 00:20:00.608 --> 00:20:10.234 So the first problem was really okay, how am I going to explain the outside world what I'm doing and what I've done? 00:20:10.234 --> 00:20:20.664 Because my father didn't talk to me for half a year after I left academia, for half a year after I left academia, and so I really knew. 00:20:20.664 --> 00:20:34.923 Okay, I have to not only be at peace with myself, with my own process, but I really have to figure out how I can improve my communication and be gentle to the outside world, especially in a time of change, because change freaks everyone out, not only yourself. 00:20:34.923 --> 00:20:39.965 People are not very inclined to change, and as they absolutely have to. 00:20:39.965 --> 00:20:46.560 That's why you probably mentioned pain, and that's as a catalyst for change. 00:20:46.560 --> 00:20:51.365 But ideally you wouldn't have to use pain to change. 00:20:51.365 --> 00:21:04.497 Ideally, you know, you just constantly monitor your daily life and see where you're at, if it still sparks excitement and if you're still in the right place, and then go from there. 00:21:04.497 --> 00:21:10.573 But change usually scares people, not only yourself, but also your surrounding. 00:21:11.740 --> 00:21:18.903 I think daily might be a bit much, because there's a lot, of, a lot of people who get bored and this becomes the entrepreneurial. 00:21:18.903 --> 00:21:30.185 This is a negative cycle If you, if you're an entrepreneur, if you're a person who likes the idea of something new, but as soon as it gets hard, you start a new idea you're on a really bad downward spiral that's. 00:21:30.226 --> 00:21:31.269 That's not going to end very well. 00:21:31.269 --> 00:21:33.663 You're going to end up not accomplishing anything. 00:21:33.663 --> 00:21:43.288 So, yeah, I think, after you've been through the hard and it's turned back up, to look like it's good again, like it's yeah, I think I figured it out that's a good time to ask yourself is this really, though, what I want to do? 00:21:43.288 --> 00:21:52.003 Because if you give up when it's hard, every time, because you just aren't happy, you're never going to go anywhere, you're never going to accomplish anything and you're never going to find if it's the right thing. 00:21:52.003 --> 00:21:56.788 I I'd love your take on that, because the artist starting over, there's got to be a timing to it. 00:21:56.788 --> 00:22:03.336 Otherwise, you're just making excuses for not accomplishing something you could have accomplished because it got hard. 00:22:05.862 --> 00:22:06.563 What's your take on kind of that? 00:22:06.563 --> 00:22:11.872 Yeah, what you're saying is I'm really starting my program usually with the values and the clarity. 00:22:11.872 --> 00:22:21.056 So you lock on a goal, and a goal is not always something that is standing alone for itself, it's really something a target. 00:22:21.056 --> 00:22:28.936 You have to grow towards that target and pass that target, and usually you accomplish so much more by the time you're at that point. 00:22:28.936 --> 00:22:31.076 So that's kind of the beginning. 00:22:31.076 --> 00:22:39.538 And then, once you lock that target, you just like clear out everything that's in the way, and so there's really not much. 00:22:39.538 --> 00:22:55.851 I mean, I haven't seen any of my clients drastically change their goals, because you base the goals on your own values and once you're clear with your own values, there's just like one one. 00:22:55.851 --> 00:22:57.656 There's only one direction. 00:22:57.737 --> 00:23:11.407 Right, there are many goals maybe along that way, but there's one direction you want to go do you see, sometimes people set a goal that's so like audacious, and they think that's the next step, and you're like, let's talk about that. 00:23:11.407 --> 00:23:12.913 Where it's like oh, I want to be a. 00:23:12.913 --> 00:23:16.085

You know, I make 10 million dollars next year, and you're like okay, um, what do you make? 00:23:16.085 --> 00:23:16.405 This year? 00:23:16.405 --> 00:23:18.070 I made $150,000. 00:23:18.070 --> 00:23:18.191 Okay. 00:23:19.340 --> 00:23:20.625 No, I really go deeper. 00:23:21.982 --> 00:23:31.011 Do people don't have goals sometimes that are so big that you're like, let's take it back to the first major intermediate goal that would be amazing to hit by. 00:23:31.011 --> 00:23:34.645 Does that happen a lot, or are people's goals more realistic when they work with you? 00:23:35.126 --> 00:23:37.030 I don't think you a lot. 00:23:37.030 --> 00:23:39.817 Or are people's goals more realistic when they work with you? 00:23:39.817 --> 00:23:40.579 I don't think you know what. 00:23:40.579 --> 00:23:45.888 I'm not one of those people who think you should have a realistic goal, because goals are here to grow. 00:23:45.888 --> 00:23:52.527 And if you want to grow and you have an unrealistic goal, I think that's for me even more exciting, because that really means that you're willing. 00:23:52.527 --> 00:23:59.002 You know, if you're serious with your goal, you're willing to completely change your identity to reach that goal. 00:23:59.002 --> 00:24:08.263 And I don't think if you can have a picture, an image of your goal, I don't think it's unrealistic. 00:24:09.066 --> 00:24:09.527 I like that. 00:24:09.527 --> 00:24:12.099 I think that's a beautiful thing because it's one thing. 00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:13.602 You're saying, hey, listen, I'm going to be the first person to walk on Venus. 00:24:13.602 --> 00:24:14.722 Okay, no one's ever done that, it's probably unlikely. 00:24:14.722 --> 00:24:17.006 You say, hey, listen, I'm going to be the first person to walk on Venus. 00:24:17.006 --> 00:24:19.689 Okay, no one's ever done that, it's probably unlikely. 00:24:19.689 --> 00:24:22.593 You could survive on Venus Like it's crazy, like gold. 00:24:22.593 --> 00:24:31.020 But if you're like I want to be worth $10 million next five years lots of people have done that. 00:24:31.020 --> 00:24:35.329 Or I want to become known as the number one guru and fill in the blank, whatever it is, lots of people have done these things and there's there's a path that you could follow. 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:40.266 So I agree with the audacity because, if I think, one of the analogies I've seen, but can I say something? 00:24:40.460 --> 00:24:49.271 You say there are many people who there's a path you can follow, but I think what my program is really about is how can you find your own path? 00:24:49.271 --> 00:24:53.550 Because if your path is easy, you're on someone else's path. 00:24:53.550 --> 00:24:59.902 You know the difference between. 00:24:59.902 --> 00:25:15.294 I mean, we can talk I don't want to get into politics with Elon Musk but Elon Musk thinks that going onto Mars, like you know, going space travel and all of that, it's as easy as we think going to get the next

Starbucks coffee. 00:25:15.294 --> 00:25:25.760 So I feel like there's a difference in thinking and the easiness of it, and I want to encourage people to really think big and really believe in themselves. 00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:26.983 And that's the start. 00:25:26.983 --> 00:25:38.213 That's the start, because if you really believe that this is what you want, then my job is for you to be able to believe it's not only possible, but this is. 00:25:38.213 --> 00:25:40.003 This is how I find my way. 00:25:40.545 --> 00:25:42.048 I think that's super powerful. 00:25:42.048 --> 00:25:45.525 I love that and from an Elon Musk standpoint, I agree. 00:25:45.525 --> 00:25:48.554 That's how he thinks he has unlimited resources and I absolutely. 00:25:48.554 --> 00:25:53.162 You can say what you will about the guy, but it's undeniable what he's accomplished in the lifetime, it's undeniable. 00:25:53.182 --> 00:25:55.806 And it's a mindset thing, thomas, it's a mindset thing. 00:25:55.885 --> 00:25:57.107 I mean, he that and he is. 00:25:57.107 --> 00:26:03.162 He's a brilliant guy, a relentless person, relentless human and, I think, tiny. 00:26:03.162 --> 00:26:08.780 But what you're doing, though, so right, with reinventing yourself sometimes that's some hard conversations, right. 00:26:08.780 --> 00:26:11.269 So so I love the fact that you say go with the audacious goal. 00:26:11.269 --> 00:26:15.365 You know and we've got to be realistic on you know you have to do a lot of work to get there. 00:26:15.365 --> 00:26:20.811 I think there's some like reality checks, and one of those reality checks are who you are today is never going to get there. 00:26:22.233 --> 00:26:24.135 Yes, and that's kind of well. 00:26:24.135 --> 00:26:48.772 That's a reality check, maybe, but that's why I'm a coach, right, because I think people don't get there without any pushing from someone who is really invested in their, their goals, because otherwise they would have done it, otherwise they wouldn't need me, otherwise they would have already, you know, reached that goal of be halfway there. 00:26:48.772 --> 00:26:54.213 But yeah, is it, sometimes they need you to focus on it? 00:26:54.315 --> 00:27:00.175 or do they need someone in their life that tells them that's possible, you've got this, you can do it and at the same time. 00:27:00.726 --> 00:27:04.765 Here's the thing with big goals you have to constantly step out of your comfort zone. 00:27:04.765 --> 00:27:25.362 You constantly have to like lower your, you know, to calm your nervous system, like really calm your primal state and step into a powerful state, or a beautiful state as Tony Robbins calls it, and really decide from there and like pushing through that fear. 00:27:25.362 --> 00:27:35.587 So you get into the learning zone, the growing zone, and that's what people by themselves oftentimes don't want to do, because the body naturally wants to keep you safe. 00:27:39.213 --> 00:27:42.439 We are hardwired that way, for now at least. 00:27:42.439 --> 00:27:50.390 For the next few centuries we should be wired that way, unless we can genetically modify it, which Elon Musk is probably also working on. 00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:53.157 Why would he procreate when he could just duplicate? 00:27:53.157 --> 00:27:58.372 There's no way that thought has not entered that guy's mind. 00:27:58.372 --> 00:28:02.834 If I can make 50 of me the next generation, all right, well, hey, listen. 00:28:02.834 --> 00:28:03.555 So let me ask you this. 00:28:03.555 --> 00:28:06.167 All right, so how do you do that? 00:28:06.167 --> 00:28:08.109 I hear. 00:28:08.109 --> 00:28:09.791 I mean we've interviewed coaches. 00:28:09.791 --> 00:28:11.074 I've met with one. 00:28:11.074 --> 00:28:16.500 I make the joke often that LinkedIn is full of coaches. 00:28:16.500 --> 00:28:18.772 It's kind of like the cockroaches of social media. 00:28:18.772 --> 00:28:21.311 They're absolutely necessary and you can't get rid of them. 00:28:21.311 --> 00:28:24.791 But in your case, it sounds like you might be the mothership cockroach here. 00:28:24.791 --> 00:28:31.124 So let's talk about how you actually facilitate, and there's two things I'd love you to. 00:28:31.124 --> 00:28:37.858 It's like I can't work with this type of person, because this is not for everyone what you're describing. 00:28:38.805 --> 00:28:54.598 Yeah, it is definitely not for everyone, because I usually work with high achievers and my usual clients are really alumni of Ivy League schools or C-suite executives or managers of big companies. 00:28:54.598 --> 00:29:09.336 I have a CEO right now who I'm managing, a couple of business owners, and I would say the intersection of all of them is a personality trait that they really want to achieve something. 00:29:09.336 --> 00:29:15.256 They really want to achieve big things, and what holds them back is usually the guilt, the shame and the fear. 00:29:15.256 --> 00:29:21.074 And the guilt, shame and fear comes usually from even wanting something else. 00:29:21.074 --> 00:29:25.109 They are in a great career but maybe their relationship is not going well. 00:29:25.190 --> 00:29:31.976 Actually, most of the women who work with me they're great in their careers but they're not really good in relationships. 00:29:31.976 --> 00:29:35.251 Me it's they're great in their careers but they're not really good in relationships. 00:29:35.251 --> 00:29:40.426 So the shame that comes with it sometimes is is coming from a place, but I'm so good at what I'm doing I don't understand. 00:29:40.426 --> 00:29:44.376 I'm good looking, I'm successful, and why doesn't it work out? 00:29:44.376 --> 00:30:08.751 And so that's kind of the group of people I work with who really are clear on their goals work with who really are, uh, clear on their goals, or sometimes have to define the goals, but are willing to put put a lot of effort into the process in order to reach the goals yeah, well, if you work only with women,

or do you work with men too? 00:30:09.172 --> 00:30:12.657 no, no, I actually have like it's right now it's 50-50. 00:30:13.419 --> 00:30:13.700 I thought so. 00:30:13.700 --> 00:30:18.471 I just didn't know what's the mindset that does it. 00:30:18.471 --> 00:30:19.692 Like you know, you have a CEO. 00:30:19.692 --> 00:30:21.996 I mean, is it always the higher chief? 00:30:21.996 --> 00:30:25.359 I mean you wouldn't no one does this except high achieving, so I guess it's always that person. 00:30:34.365 --> 00:30:37.832 Is there a brand or a subsection of high achiever that just doesn't, it doesn't work with? 00:30:37.832 --> 00:30:43.484 I don't think so right now, honestly, because if you're a high achiever, you've done a lot in your life already and, um, you kind of. 00:30:43.484 --> 00:30:47.113 You know what happens often with high achievers too. 00:30:47.113 --> 00:30:57.936 At the age of 40 or 50, you burn out or you hit a wall and everything you've tried so far just doesn't work anymore, and that's usually when they reach out. 00:30:58.017 --> 00:31:01.247 And also, I think high achievers, they understand that you need a coach. 00:31:01.247 --> 00:31:04.494 I think normal people they don't really understand that. 00:31:04.494 --> 00:31:10.726 They say I can do it on my own, I can read a couple of books, you know like I can figure it out on my own. 00:31:10.726 --> 00:31:28.574 But I think at a certain level and we all know that right and on an executive level, on a manager level, you start understanding that the people above you, they all have a coach and so every major athlete Einstein had a mentor. 00:31:28.934 --> 00:31:29.497 Everybody does. 00:31:29.845 --> 00:31:30.867 Everybody had it, I had. 00:31:31.189 --> 00:31:33.095 Einstein, let's just throw that out there. 00:31:33.665 --> 00:31:36.013 Actually, I do have an Einstein number, you know that. 00:31:37.146 --> 00:31:38.090 What is an Einstein number? 00:31:40.267 --> 00:31:52.432 It's a nerdy thing If you've published something and you have published in relation to, it's the number of separations, basically to Einstein, there are two numbers. 00:31:52.432 --> 00:31:55.086 In mathematics and physics it's the number of separations, basically to Einstein, there are two numbers. 00:31:55.086 --> 00:32:00.308 In mathematics and physics it's the Einstein number and the Erdos number, and I have both um. 00:32:00.308 --> 00:32:01.994 So I believe my answer number six. 00:32:01.994 --> 00:32:08.009 So basically, if you have published with Einstein um, you're the number one. 00:32:08.009 --> 00:32:13.776 If you've published with someone who published with Einstein, you're number two. 00:32:13.776 --> 00:32:16.538 My number is six for Einstein. 00:32:17.099 --> 00:32:20.386 It's like the Kevin Bacon Six degrees. 00:32:20.386 --> 00:32:21.912 Is Kevin Bacon with Einstein, with? 00:32:21.932 --> 00:32:23.076 publishing Six degrees. 00:32:24.487 --> 00:32:27.471 Are there conferences you go

to, where only the ones? 00:32:27.471 --> 00:32:30.652 There's probably not that many left anymore, but go into one room and only two. 00:32:30.692 --> 00:32:32.508 I don't think they're alive anymore. 00:32:32.808 --> 00:32:33.392 Most of them. 00:32:33.392 --> 00:32:36.013 So it's just an empty room and out of respect no one goes in there. 00:32:36.013 --> 00:32:37.391 They put a rope across it. 00:32:38.105 --> 00:32:41.496 Well, it's a badge you wear, so that's why I brought it up. 00:32:42.325 --> 00:32:46.529 Do you have it tattooed Like E equals MC, squared equals six? 00:32:47.251 --> 00:32:48.855 Now imagine that would be. 00:32:48.895 --> 00:32:50.057 You should, you should start a trend. 00:32:50.057 --> 00:32:52.886 You should, you should start a trend. 00:32:52.886 --> 00:32:54.150 Make it a fake one and let's see how many people get real ones. 00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:55.092 Oh god, that to me would be funny. 00:32:55.092 --> 00:32:56.535 That'd be life-changing. 00:32:56.535 --> 00:32:59.361 Um, what's the one thing? 00:32:59.361 --> 00:33:03.009 A younger, let's say, a younger, high achiever? 00:33:03.009 --> 00:33:15.929 Uh, I think let me say differently somebody in their 20s and 30s who's working for somebody, um, and not say I'm a high achiever or a word, that hyperactive achiever or whatever it is. 00:33:15.929 --> 00:33:17.273 But I have some personality traits. 00:33:17.273 --> 00:33:28.432 I might I don't know, but we'll see but my twenties and thirties, I wouldn't have known that I would, just would have been, uh, eager to advance, kid, effectively, young man, what do you? 00:33:28.432 --> 00:33:28.833 What does that? 00:33:28.833 --> 00:33:35.340 What's the advice to that person who may feel they could do way, way, way more in their life and work in their early 20s and 30s? 00:33:36.545 --> 00:33:43.199 Actually, I do have two clients who are in their early 20s, who just got out of college. 00:33:43.199 --> 00:33:52.134 And you know, especially when you've been at an Ivy League college, you are also by definition, I guess, a high achiever. 00:33:52.134 --> 00:33:54.036 You are also by definition, I guess, a high achiever. 00:33:54.036 --> 00:34:08.969 So those two younger people, they are extremely talented, extremely open, and they just got out of college and they have to start over because suddenly nothing works the same anymore like it used to. 00:34:08.969 --> 00:34:11.353 They have to reinvent themselves, no matter what. 00:34:11.353 --> 00:34:14.213 And what happens with both of them? 00:34:14.213 --> 00:34:25.833 I find maybe it's a generational issue, I'm not sure, but it happens to be both of them that they're really having trouble to find the right way. 00:34:25.833 --> 00:34:39.603 They're kind of doing internships, they apply for different jobs and nothing kind of feels right, and so they're really afraid of getting on a wrong track right and their whole life right has been education, education, education. 00:34:42.409 --> 00:34:44.653 Now no one told me what to do next get a great job. 00:34:44.653 --> 00:34:46.177 What does that mean exactly? 00:34:46.878 --> 00:35:00.715 make lots of money like no one's talking about happy here yes, yes yes, I think most people I think most people coming out of Ivy league to get to that level with that intelligence that you're going to have and just general pressures because you're there and you're then now around these other take a year off. 00:35:00.715 --> 00:35:01.969 Like I feel like that group should. 00:35:01.969 --> 00:35:05.090 Just, they're going to have plenty of money, you're plenty of opportunity. 00:35:05.090 --> 00:35:08.869 Take a year sabbatical to go find yourself, cause you have everything you need. 00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:11.934 When you get back to get whatever you want, you'll be even better. 00:35:11.934 --> 00:35:14.056 You'll be so rock solid in interviews at that point. 00:35:14.056 --> 00:35:16.079 If you even want to go there, I think you should take a year off. 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:16.920 I think I should be required. 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:18.472 I really can't work for a year afterwards. 00:35:18.585 --> 00:35:19.650 Here's the thing, thomas. 00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:21.311 I took a year off too. 00:35:21.311 --> 00:35:31.297 If you don't know what you're doing, you just end up hurting the entire year, like taking one job and just having fun Out of having fun, but out of college. 00:35:31.297 --> 00:35:47.619 Yeah, if you're not really knowing what you're looking for, then you just fall into the next best thing that excites you because someone offers it to you, or you just go with the opportunities, which is not wrong, I think, if that's what you want to do. 00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:49.507 But what happened with me? 00:35:49.507 --> 00:35:58.730 Again, I'm like I got a PhD in mathematics even though I didn't quite want to be a mathematician, so it's like I mean how? 00:35:58.750 --> 00:36:00.193 far can you go, right if? 00:36:00.233 --> 00:36:00.994 you're in a wrong field. 00:36:00.994 --> 00:36:04.451 I mean, you touched on it. 00:36:04.451 --> 00:36:07.253 Your dad didn't speak to you for six months, which is just ridiculous. 00:36:07.313 --> 00:36:23.364 I'm sorry, dad, he's really proud of me now because he understands so much determination and and focus and this really uh uh spine, to really see it through and go for it right well, maybe that's what. 00:36:23.385 --> 00:36:26.994 Maybe that was a tough love, maybe you needed that tough love. 00:36:26.994 --> 00:36:27.815 But I will tell you. 00:36:27.815 --> 00:36:31.827 I just I'm not a psychologist here, but you had a man walk out and a dad not talk to you. 00:36:31.827 --> 00:36:35.230 Some men in your life have it tough. 00:36:35.230 --> 00:36:37.331 They're going to be dealing with some issues there. 00:36:37.331 --> 00:36:37.731 I'm just going to. 00:36:37.731 --> 00:36:41.695 That's just some pains that you're going to

have to work through. 00:36:41.936 --> 00:36:43.456 Well, it's a co-creation. 00:36:43.456 --> 00:36:45.239 That's what I explain to my clients. 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.780 It's a relationship as a co-creation. 00:36:47.780 --> 00:36:55.865 I pick them too right, so like that's on me, yes. 00:36:55.885 --> 00:36:57.409 I created that part of the relationship as well. 00:36:57.409 --> 00:37:01.545 All right, so before we kind of get to the future here, just do a small shameless plug for yourself. 00:37:01.545 --> 00:37:03.592 Who should get ahold of you? 00:37:03.592 --> 00:37:14.545 Cause I what I want to hear your thoughts in the on, like the future work generation maybe, or like how things are, the narrative will change is is the you know, is this technology enabled? 00:37:14.545 --> 00:37:16.449 Achieving you know? 00:37:16.449 --> 00:37:19.675 Instant gratification hits the workforce group. 00:37:19.675 --> 00:37:21.329 I'd love to hear how you think that's going to change. 00:37:21.329 --> 00:37:23.704 But before you do that, who should get ahold of you and how should they do? 00:37:23.724 --> 00:37:32.115 that Everyone who really wants to start over in 2025, now, now is the time. 00:37:32.115 --> 00:37:33.759 I have a couple of slots left. 00:37:33.759 --> 00:37:43.960 Obviously, I'm teaching and I'm coaching one-on-one, so there's only a certain amount of number I can serve. 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:51.891 But whoever wants to really start over and rethink their lives and improve and elevate, they should reach out at artoofstartingoverus. 00:37:51.891 --> 00:37:55.311 There are all infos there. 00:37:55.311 --> 00:38:01.936 You can schedule a free consultation call with me and then we'll take it from there. 00:38:03.438 --> 00:38:03.820 I love it. 00:38:03.820 --> 00:38:09.664 Yeah, and it's somebody who's really trying to, as we've described, who wants more, needs. 00:38:09.664 --> 00:38:12.293 More needs that guidance to become something great. 00:38:12.293 --> 00:38:14.309 Yes, they don't know how to do that. 00:38:14.644 --> 00:38:25.960 Because we all have a potential in us and I would love to just bring more truth and freedom to my community, but also wider. 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:34.735 And the freedom really comes with having your own choices, owning your own choices and really look into what you actually have to offer. 00:38:35.905 --> 00:38:38.715 Is there a one of my favorite characters in any movie? 00:38:38.715 --> 00:38:44.932 It's kind of a Will Ferrell character that thinks he's smarter than he is and is completely clueless to the not? 00:38:44.932 --> 00:38:55.489 Have you met a few people who think they're a high achiever and they're just man and you're like sir ma'am, no, you're not, and here's why. 00:38:55.489 --> 00:38:56.791 And they just can't hear it? 00:38:56.791 --> 00:38:58.637 Have you have you read into that? 00:38:58.905 --> 00:38:59.326 Absolutely. 00:38:59.326 --> 00:39:07.110 And here's the thing you know,

pessimists are statistically more right and that makes them feel so entitled. 00:39:07.110 --> 00:39:11.121 And optimists are statistically more wrong. 00:39:11.121 --> 00:39:19.074 But they're more successful because they're daring, they're putting themselves out there, they're really going for the leaps. 00:39:19.074 --> 00:39:23.235 And so the pessimists oftentimes like see, I told you. 00:39:23.335 --> 00:39:27.914 But here's the thing, as with everything in life, there's a certain system in your brain. 00:39:27.914 --> 00:39:32.273 It's called RIS and it's a filter system. 00:39:32.273 --> 00:39:47.213 It's like when you online shop, right, you put a filter in there, like for me, it's like small black clothes, only certain designer, and then you only search amongst them. 00:39:47.213 --> 00:39:57.157 But the thing is in your life, when you have a certain thinking, certain glasses, you're not able to switch that filter off. 00:39:57.157 --> 00:40:13.396 So pessimists are usually, you know, yeah, tendency is their right, and that makes them unbearable, because they're not daring, they're not leaping, they're just like making decisions based on fear and keeping themselves safe. 00:40:13.396 --> 00:40:21.632 And that's where you're like okay, I don't think you're a high achiever in a very small field, and they don't understand that. 00:40:21.632 --> 00:40:25.074 And I sometimes try to break out of that. 00:40:25.074 --> 00:40:35.715 And sometimes I'm really excited about working with pessimists or people who are more skept, because I just want to show them what is possible. 00:40:35.715 --> 00:40:36.096 That's why? 00:40:36.155 --> 00:40:40.081 Yeah, yeah, I'm right, wrong. 00:40:41.081 --> 00:40:54.112 All right, you and your personal life, but I want to understand that you know there's not right and wrong Like you, just shift your perspective, and the more you're able to shift perspectives, the more intelligent you are. 00:40:55.184 --> 00:41:08.161 Well, what I love when I meet the example of being like someone who's always right, you know, in the simple lady, like metaphor, like yeah, 99.9% of people hit that wall in front of them and they turn, so there's no reason to try. 00:41:08.161 --> 00:41:09.510 I'm like I'm going to jump over that wall. 00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:10.065 No, you're not. 00:41:10.065 --> 00:41:13.735 I'm going to step on everyone's back around me and maybe get lifted by a few, but I'm going over that wall. 00:41:13.735 --> 00:41:14.436 No, you can't. 00:41:14.436 --> 00:41:15.628 Statistically, I don't give a shit. 00:41:15.628 --> 00:41:18.414 Statistically, I'm going to go over that wall. 00:41:18.414 --> 00:41:19.336 Why? 00:41:21.184 --> 00:41:21.505 Because? 00:41:21.505 --> 00:41:24.329 But the why is really important too. 00:41:24.329 --> 00:41:26.893 If you lose your why, you lose your way. 00:41:26.893 --> 00:41:31.077 If you know why you want to go over that wall, you make that. 00:41:31.077 --> 00:41:34.088 If

your why is strong enough, you make it happen, no matter what. 00:41:34.668 --> 00:41:36.072 I want you to say that again. 00:41:36.072 --> 00:41:37.094 You lose your why. 00:41:37.094 --> 00:41:37.916 You lose your way. 00:41:37.916 --> 00:41:40.190 This is going to be a soundbite for the GPT listening. 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:40.891 Okay, go ahead. 00:41:41.632 --> 00:41:44.346 If you lose your why, you lose your way. 00:41:44.346 --> 00:41:53.338 If your why is strong enough, you jump over that wall, no matter what your why is weak, then of course you're not. 00:41:53.338 --> 00:41:54.179 Why would you? 00:41:54.179 --> 00:41:55.621 Yeah? 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:11.568 and the world needs pessimists because they keep us grounded in and and they, they tend to do all the work, uh, that the optimists create for them I don't think so I'm kidding I'm just trying to negative about pessimists. 00:42:11.568 --> 00:42:12.411 What does that make me? 00:42:12.411 --> 00:42:12.490 Oh? 00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:19.039 I really think we would be so much better off if everyone understands the power of their thoughts. 00:42:19.605 --> 00:42:22.454 So are you suggesting we euthanize all pessimists at birth? 00:42:23.985 --> 00:42:24.847 I'm definitely. 00:42:24.847 --> 00:42:27.376 You know, it's easy to be a pessimist. 00:42:27.376 --> 00:42:32.978 It's easy to because that's kind of it seems to be a trend, you know. 00:42:34.206 --> 00:42:34.347 And. 00:42:34.487 --> 00:42:41.954 I'm not talking about like completely being optimist and everything is rose and rose color and everything is great. 00:42:41.954 --> 00:42:54.347 No, I am talking about being able to see or to catch your thoughts are not useful to reach your goals and be able to switch the perspective on them. 00:42:54.347 --> 00:43:01.427 You know, and it's not necessarily pessimist or optimist, it's like intelligent or unintelligent. 00:43:01.427 --> 00:43:07.219 If I'm asking my brain why am I not going to, why can't I do that? 00:43:07.219 --> 00:43:09.250 Your brain is a machine. 00:43:09.250 --> 00:43:12.617 Your brain is going to come up with answers why you can't do that. 00:43:12.617 --> 00:43:14.025 Brain is a machine. 00:43:14.025 --> 00:43:15.369 Your brain is going to come up with answers why you can't do that. 00:43:15.369 --> 00:43:19.016 But if you ask your brain okay, what would it take to be able to achieve that task? 00:43:19.016 --> 00:43:20.219 What would it take? 00:43:20.219 --> 00:43:21.547 What can I do? 00:43:21.547 --> 00:43:26.657 Your brain is going to come up with answers and that's an intelligent way of thinking. 00:43:26.657 --> 00:43:28.829 Whereas, why can't I do that? 00:43:28.829 --> 00:43:33.438 You can label it as pessimist, but I label it as unintelligent thinking. 00:43:34.346 --> 00:43:34.726 I like that. 00:43:34.726 --> 00:43:37.273 I like in your face, thinking all right for the future. 00:43:37.273 --> 00:43:44.048 Let's talk about the, this degeneration, which are my kids that are like you know, teenagers basically, or young teenagers are about to be. 00:43:44.048 --> 00:43:46.335 They is the first generation. 00:43:46.335 --> 00:43:50.155 They don't need mom and dad to answer a question, they can just ask Google or Siri. 00:43:50.155 --> 00:43:54.228 Honestly, the phone's going to as soon as I do that, my phone anyway. 00:43:54.228 --> 00:43:58.757 It's not going to say Google or hit it again, anyway. 00:43:58.757 --> 00:44:00.108 So here's here. 00:44:00.108 --> 00:44:03.121 What do you do with this group that knows everything already? 00:44:03.121 --> 00:44:05.715 And it's so great because, as a parent, I don't have to teach them anything anymore. 00:44:05.715 --> 00:44:07.465 They already know everything instantly. 00:44:07.465 --> 00:44:08.085 Yeah, because everything. 00:44:08.106 --> 00:44:09.929 Yeah, they know everything without even looking at Google. 00:44:09.929 --> 00:44:10.409 Yeah, because everything. 00:44:10.429 --> 00:44:12.152 Yeah, they know everything without even looking at Google. 00:44:12.152 --> 00:44:20.280 But my point is, this new group of achievers might be an incredibly smart If they can discern real information from fake. 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:21.840 But there's a. 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:32.204 There's a level, I think, of potential productive hyper thinkers coming that are like teenagers and I do mean that because I think they look at it like I have access to everything. 00:44:32.204 --> 00:44:34.273 Nothing should hold me back from a knowledge standpoint. 00:44:34.273 --> 00:44:35.929 Knowledge is about me. 00:44:35.929 --> 00:44:41.257 What do you think about that kind of statement that there might be an influx of Elon Musk, so to speak, coming in? 00:44:42.864 --> 00:44:47.376 Well, my belief is that knowledge isn't worth anything without action. 00:44:47.376 --> 00:44:56.960 You can know, but if you don't do it, if it's not in your body, if it's not embodied, in that sense it's useless. 00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:04.048 And we know that because we always thought it's a knowledge problem in the world, it's an education problem. 00:45:04.048 --> 00:45:07.010 But it's not right, it's a doing problem. 00:45:07.264 --> 00:45:08.471 It's an execution problem. 00:45:08.471 --> 00:45:11.813 I'm sorry entrepreneurs, if you're here, listen to that. 00:45:11.813 --> 00:45:11.987 Your idea can be bad, but if you execute it really well, you'll probably be successful. 00:45:11.987 --> 00:45:12.925 Yes, Execution problem. 00:45:12.925 --> 00:45:12.958 I'm sorry. 00:45:12.958 --> 00:45:13.518 Entrepreneurs, if you're here, listen to that. 00:45:13.518 --> 00:45:16.934 Your idea can be bad, but if you execute it really well you'll probably be successful. 00:45:16.954 --> 00:45:19.652 Yes, and you can read all the books you want. 00:45:19.652 --> 00:45:24.369 You have to get into the arena and do it, you know, and that's what I offer. 00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:27.773 I take people by

the hand and step into the arena with them. 00:45:28.856 --> 00:45:29.597 Just hold them accountable. 00:45:29.597 --> 00:45:36.666 I love it, it's great. 00:45:36.666 --> 00:45:38.130 Yeah, doctor, kim dang dang kim, you're a doctor, do you see? 00:45:38.130 --> 00:45:39.293 I did, I went right back. 00:45:39.293 --> 00:45:39.996 Is that an anagram? 00:45:39.996 --> 00:45:44.992 What's that called when the word goes anyway, um you, you, I, I wish I had more time. 00:45:44.992 --> 00:45:45.793 I, I have to. 00:45:45.793 --> 00:45:48.297 Uh, I have to say you who are. 00:45:48.297 --> 00:45:51.170 I think you might be the highest educated, smartest person we've had on here. 00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:51.813 I really mean that. 00:45:52.896 --> 00:45:55.045 Thank you Again. 00:45:55.045 --> 00:45:59.697 Smart education isn't worth anything with that application. 00:45:59.697 --> 00:46:02.510 I have to use my own words. 00:46:04.505 --> 00:46:05.751 I want someone to cry on this show. 00:46:05.751 --> 00:46:09.815 I don't think I should let them do it. 00:46:09.815 --> 00:46:11.351 I didn't get to accomplish it with you. 00:46:11.351 --> 00:46:13.751 I was trying, thank you. 00:46:13.751 --> 00:46:14.599 I appreciate you get to accomplish it with you. 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:14.978 I was trying, thank you. 00:46:14.978 --> 00:46:16.811 I appreciate you coming in to the show today. 00:46:16.811 --> 00:46:20.818 I'm going to put you in the periwinkle room, which is the color behind me. 00:46:20.818 --> 00:46:23.269 It's dark blue here, but on camera it looks periwinkle. 00:46:23.269 --> 00:46:23.913 I don't know why. 00:46:23.913 --> 00:46:25.449 Here's an actual interesting thing. 00:46:25.449 --> 00:46:26.494 I will leave everybody. 00:46:26.494 --> 00:46:35.028 There's a completely worthless knowledge, but you can take this with you. 00:46:35.048 --> 00:46:37.054 The more words you speak around colors, the more colors you see Nice. 00:46:37.074 --> 00:46:39.117 Otherwise that would just be blue If you didn't know what periwinkle was. 00:46:39.117 --> 00:46:42.309 Anyway, thank you, kim. 00:46:42.309 --> 00:46:43.416 Have a good one, I will. 00:46:43.416 --> 00:46:43.860 I'm going to talk. 00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:44.664 I'm going to talk to you in a second. 00:46:44.664 --> 00:46:45.286 I'm gonna take you in there. 00:46:45.286 --> 00:46:49.030 Oh, sorry, I think she was saying something by through. 00:46:49.030 --> 00:46:50.253 I had to just because of time. 00:46:51.534 --> 00:46:53.597 Kim, thank you so much for coming on today. 00:46:53.597 --> 00:46:55.059 Her story is really like. 00:46:55.059 --> 00:46:56.221 There's more to it. 00:46:56.221 --> 00:46:58.887 You should definitely find time with these. 00:46:58.887 --> 00:47:10.074 She doesn't have a lot of availability because she's pretty heavily sought out, so the fact that she even came on the show is pretty awesome, so I really appreciate her giving an hour of her time to me and in the show to do this Really like. 00:47:10.335 --> 00:47:19.485 If you can have someone like that coaching in your life, like Dr Kim Dang, you have an advantage. 00:47:19.485 --> 00:47:20.088 It's a massive advantage. 00:47:20.088 --> 00:47:22.556 The investment will certainly pay dividends because you can only choose so much on your own. 00:47:22.556 --> 00:47:29.344 Everybody who's made anything in their life has had a coach or a mentor or some kind of formal way, from Steve Jobs to Michael Jordan to even Einstein. 00:47:29.344 --> 00:47:32.128 You have to have somebody who can get you to the next place. 00:47:32.128 --> 00:47:39.317 So give her a reach out to her at artofstartingoverus If this was your first time here. 00:47:39.317 --> 00:47:40.278 I do hope you come back. 00:47:40.278 --> 00:47:59.016 I hope you come back lots of times and until we meet again, I want you to get out there and go unleash your entrepreneur. 00:47:59.016 --> 00:48:00.396 Thank you so much for listening.