Full Transcript for 2026-01-17: Learned Nothing

got it in that 00:02:46.590 --> 00:02:50.790 amount of time. I think I went maybe one more quarter, one more class to get 00:02:50.790 --> 00:02:52.530 my final political science one. 00:02:52.930 --> 00:02:53.810 Sam and I, look. 00:02:53.990 --> 00:02:55.490 So summer. Wait, summer. 00:02:55.490 --> 00:02:56.450 Summer, summer, come on. 00:02:56.570 --> 00:02:57.550 I did go to summer school. 00:02:57.550 --> 00:03:03.790 Sam and I, we're very lazy people. We don't go to summer school. 00:03:04.350 --> 00:03:08.490 Well, I'm lazy too, and summer school was not about just school. 00:03:08.490 --> 00:03:11.150 It was about partying at WSU in the summer. 00:03:11.550 --> 00:03:15.790 Look, I could get partying done without having to have the excuse of going to 00:03:15.790 --> 00:03:21.070 school, okay? That was not a requirement in any way, shape, or form. 00:03:21.130 --> 00:03:24.730 I could figure out how to party without being at school. Thank you very much. 00:03:25.490 --> 00:03:25.850 Me too. 00:03:27.570 --> 00:03:32.130 Okay, I got subjects lined up. I got things. 00:03:33.410 --> 00:03:35.450 Yeah, we had a few things happen. 00:03:36.670 --> 00:03:37.070 Really? 00:03:38.090 --> 00:03:38.490 Yeah. 00:03:39.630 --> 00:03:43.090 Calm. Everything is fine. 00:03:45.370 --> 00:03:48.430 All right, well, come on. Let's get this show on the road. Let's go. Come on. 00:03:48.570 --> 00:03:49.370 Okay, everyone ready? 00:03:51.100 --> 00:03:52.560 Ready as we'll ever be. 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:54.080 Never ready, but I'm ready. 00:03:56.380 --> 00:03:57.200 Here we go. 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:26.840 Welcome to Curmudgeons Corner for Saturday, January 17th, 2026. 00:04:27.760 --> 00:04:34.300 It is just after 3 UTC as we are starting to record. I am Sam Minter. Yvonne Bowe is with us. 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:40.500 And this time we also have Emily Wicks with us again, who is, 00:04:40.620 --> 00:04:47.000 of course, the co-host of the UMSUR podcast and is joining us again. 00:04:47.180 --> 00:04:49.180 So thank you, Emily. Thank you, Yvonne. 00:04:49.740 --> 00:04:50.460 Hello, hello. 00:04:51.080 --> 00:04:51.480 Hello. 00:04:51.780 --> 00:04:56.260 You know, you guys, what's the temperature up there where you guys are at? Oh, yeah. 00:04:56.780 --> 00:04:58.680 Just checking right now. 42. 00:04:59.060 --> 00:04:59.800 It's really nice. 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:00.200 42. 00:05:00.540 --> 00:05:02.700 We've had really sun skies lately. 00:05:03.060 --> 00:05:06.580 And it was 42 this morning over here. 00:05:06.840 --> 00:05:12.380 All right. Look, it's 60. I was out with a sweater, a jacket. 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.840 I'm indoors. I'm freezing my ass off. 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:19.960 You know, I. Yes, I know. 00:05:20.200 --> 00:05:23.620 And it's going to be. Yes. And it's going to be cold again tonight. 00:05:23.820 --> 00:05:25.140 I'm not. I'm not doing well. 00:05:25.940 --> 00:05:29.220 So when would it Cold means 40s. Yeah. 00:05:29.500 --> 00:05:29.740 Yes. 00:05:29.940 --> 00:05:32.460 No, no, no, no, no. That's that's that's Arctic. 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:34.520 No, cold is 60. 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:39.860 Wow. You don't belong in Washington State. 00:05:40.420 --> 00:05:46.240 No, I do not. There is a reason I live down in South Florida. 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:51.200 Look, I mean, I'm Puerto Rican, for God's sakes. This is not my, no, no. 00:05:51.380 --> 00:05:56.180 Look, Yvonne, here at 60 degrees, people are wearing shorts and T-shirts. 00:05:56.520 --> 00:05:59.480 Listen, I got a whole bunch of Canadians down here. Not as much, 00:05:59.700 --> 00:06:04.540 not as many as we usually have gotten, you know, thanks to our dear old Presidente, 00:06:04.940 --> 00:06:09.880 okay, you know, that are all around in shorts and whatever and stuff and bathing suits. 00:06:10.080 --> 00:06:13.440 And I'm looking at them and, you know, my wife takes out her winter coat, 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.140 literally takes out her winter coat. I'm not exaggerating. 00:06:17.100 --> 00:06:24.280 You know, high 50s, 60s is you go to a Starbucks and there are people wearing boots and winter coats. 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:31.060 Yeah, ridiculous. You guys are, I don't know what to say. 00:06:31.260 --> 00:06:34.720 You know, I know you're not used to it, but come on. 00:06:34.860 --> 00:06:38.840 I'm going to tell you something. Look, I made some notes about some stuff that's been going on. 00:06:38.940 --> 00:06:43.780 One thing, you know, a few weeks ago after my surgery, they drew some blood work. 00:06:44.060 --> 00:06:45.940 And they tell me this thing. 00:06:46.300 --> 00:06:49.320 Hey, you know what? Your cortisol levels are high. 00:06:50.280 --> 00:06:53.000 Now, cortisol is related to stress. 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:57.500 And they asked me, hey, have you been enduring stressful situations? 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.480 And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.820 Where are we living, for God's sakes? 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.960 Have you seen the news? Between the news, my job, this shit, 00:07:08.960 --> 00:07:11.040 or whatever? You know, yes, of course. 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:15.280 My cortisol is high. Not to mention the surgery as well. And the surgery, right. 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:17.000 And the surgery. 00:07:17.500 --> 00:07:21.680 You know, like, this reminds me, like, you know, 00:07:22.380 --> 00:07:28.600 Both when my wife and my mother both had surgery recently as well. 00:07:28.880 --> 00:07:34.980 And in both cases, the doctors at one point or another, as they're preparing 00:07:34.980 --> 00:07:38.120 for surgery, were like, your blood pressure is a little high. 00:07:38.220 --> 00:07:39.460 Are you nervous about something? 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.320 No. No. 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:45.220 Yeah. So. 00:07:45.700 --> 00:07:46.000 Yeah. 00:07:46.660 --> 00:07:47.160 Anyway. 00:07:47.760 --> 00:07:51.700 Well, have you done the,

because when you have high, like, stress levels, 00:07:51.820 --> 00:07:55.360 you're supposed to do the superwoman stance or the superman stance. 00:07:55.740 --> 00:07:58.540 It lowers your cortisol levels, you know? 00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:02.380 Like, when you go, we always tell people before you're going to a stressful 00:08:02.380 --> 00:08:06.620 interview, go into the bathroom or go wherever you need to do and stand like 00:08:06.620 --> 00:08:11.500 this with your, you know, like, or just, like, go big. And then it lowers your 00:08:11.500 --> 00:08:13.640 cortisol levels and it helps. 00:08:13.640 --> 00:08:18.780 I am taking some new supplements that they recommended I take. 00:08:18.980 --> 00:08:22.500 So based on that, I'm doing that. But I got to be honest. 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:28.320 This is, I'm kind of like at a point, like right now, where this is like, 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:31.300 I've realized this is the normal. You know, you... 00:08:32.630 --> 00:08:40.170 Look, I saw that you had done a post about, you were doing an interview about 00:08:40.170 --> 00:08:43.390 stuff that's going on in the Capitol recently. 00:08:43.770 --> 00:08:48.170 But the thing is that I went to the podcast episode, and it's not what I was listening that you had. 00:08:48.310 --> 00:08:52.950 You mentioned something about being, there was a whole bunch of different subjects, 00:08:53.010 --> 00:08:55.890 but the one that I heard was about living in different places. 00:08:56.070 --> 00:08:56.930 You're talking about UMSR, of course. 00:08:57.070 --> 00:09:01.410 I'm talking about UMSR. And you mentioned about, I guess you recently visited Brazil. 00:09:02.010 --> 00:09:06.070 Oh, yeah. Well, no. It was 2018. 00:09:07.210 --> 00:09:09.050 2018. Well, relatively recent. 00:09:09.130 --> 00:09:12.290 Yeah. And I was just listening to your podcast when you guys recorded when you 00:09:12.290 --> 00:09:15.570 were in Brazil. And that was what? Was that 2006 or 2009? 00:09:15.990 --> 00:09:17.090 That was 2009. 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:18.110 Oh, my God. 00:09:18.310 --> 00:09:20.770 You were listening to a 2009 episode? 00:09:20.990 --> 00:09:23.870 So this is what happened. She mentioned that she was in Brazil. 00:09:24.110 --> 00:09:26.950 And I realized that I said, I realized that, you know, I mentioned, 00:09:27.090 --> 00:09:31.310 well, I remembered, Sam, we recorded a lot of podcasts. 00:09:31.410 --> 00:09:34.470 episodes from when I was in Brazil. Okay. 00:09:34.850 --> 00:09:38.770 Well, in general, when you had the job that you were traveling internationally 00:09:38.770 --> 00:09:43.690 every single week, we recorded episodes with you all over the world. 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:47.910 Yeah, basically. Yes. Did we, did we, no, we did not record from Russia. 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:49.610 I think I avoided recording from Russia. 00:09:49.610 --> 00:09:54.790 No, no, I don't think we recorded from Russia, but I know, I know we recorded when you were in Asia. 00:09:55.010 --> 00:09:58.670 I know we recorded in South America. You know, you were all over the place. 00:09:58.670 --> 00:10:03.550 Yes so so we recorded episodes from from everywhere but i i must tell you so 00:10:03.550 --> 00:10:05.150 that's your only visit that you went to brazil. 00:10:05.150 --> 00:10:09.010 Yeah i mean i it was what city. 00:10:09.010 --> 00:10:09.610 Did you go to. 00:10:09.610 --> 00:10:13.750 We just we went to rio de janeiro that's where we spent most of our time and 00:10:13.750 --> 00:10:18.970 then we did take a trip to ila grande the island okay it was so funny because 00:10:18.970 --> 00:10:23.570 my friend was telling me he had gone there he had stayed with a family there 00:10:23.570 --> 00:10:27.370 for many years and his wife so we went with his dad and 00:10:27.740 --> 00:10:31.740 And we went with his wife at the time and his daughters. That was her first 00:10:31.740 --> 00:10:33.020 time, like, coming back. 00:10:33.640 --> 00:10:38.980 His wife was, she was from Brazil. She's Portuguese and, not Portuguese, she's Brazilian. 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.960 Brazilian, yeah, don't, yeah, don't say, listen, don't, do not ever say that to. 00:10:44.560 --> 00:10:45.500 Yeah. You're right, yeah. 00:10:45.640 --> 00:10:48.920 Don't tell a Portuguese person they have a Brazilian. 00:10:49.500 --> 00:10:54.620 Oh, my God. Talk about the ultimate insult. They will, yes, they will kill you. 00:10:55.280 --> 00:11:02.900 Two things. I know Spanish relatively well, not well, but I can get around if I need to. 00:11:03.060 --> 00:11:06.140 I'm not good at just busting it out, but it can get around. 00:11:06.460 --> 00:11:10.420 But my friend was like, oh, yeah, Portuguese is just the same. 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.740 You can build on it. And I was like, I don't know. 00:11:12.940 --> 00:11:15.940 Like, I was doing Duolingo for a year before we left. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:21.220 It was so hard. And I go, this is not the same. And then you go there. 00:11:21.380 --> 00:11:21.400 It's no. 00:11:21.660 --> 00:11:24.680 And the way that I thought you were supposed to say something was not the same. 00:11:24.680 --> 00:11:26.580 because the country is huge. 00:11:26.940 --> 00:11:31.520 It's like trying to listen to somebody, you know, speak in Texas or like Chicago 00:11:31.520 --> 00:11:34.240 or Boston and then talk to someone. 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.920 The accents are so different between cities, like, you know, 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:39.380 Sao Paulo accent or Rio accent. They're so very different. 00:11:39.540 --> 00:11:44.140 But one thing, what I will tell you, listen, there is one thing I want to say 00:11:44.140 --> 00:11:49.440 that you mentioned that you did on the trip that I cringed a little bit, okay, 00:11:49.820 --> 00:11:54.500 is that you guys did this whole, when we were, when I spent a lot of time in 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:57.240 Brazil, one of the things that we were talking

about, 00:11:57.640 --> 00:12:00.400 American tourists go for the first time, was this. 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:07.220 Focus on doing favela visits, which people locally were like, 00:12:07.400 --> 00:12:09.260 why are the Americans crazy? 00:12:09.560 --> 00:12:14.120 And they think that they want to come over here and visit the favelas. 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:19.940 Like, like, you know, it's not, it's like to a lot of the locals, 00:12:19.940 --> 00:12:22.340 it's very, a very big cringy thing. 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:25.120 But you said that you didn't go on one of those. 00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:28.980 We had a host. We, that was actually where my friend stayed. 00:12:28.980 --> 00:12:31.500 So we were actually a host family. 00:12:31.980 --> 00:12:34.180 Oh, but you stayed with a host family. Okay. 00:12:35.180 --> 00:12:36.480 That was his host family. 00:12:36.700 --> 00:12:40.040 No, because there are people that go on these bus tours. 00:12:40.760 --> 00:12:46.060 And I'm like, okay, so it was that you were staying. Okay, that makes me feel better. 00:12:48.580 --> 00:12:52.740 No, the one thing is that I think to a lot of people, and I say that, 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:57.180 you know, I saw, I visited Brazil so often for like 25 years. 00:12:57.180 --> 00:13:04.460 Last time, the last trip that I did, and I think I saved the boarding pass on 00:13:04.460 --> 00:13:06.940 my desk. It's right here. Okay. Yeah, I have. 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:16.200 This is the boarding pass from a flight from Sao Paulo to Miami on the 12th of March of 2020. 00:13:17.140 --> 00:13:18.360 Okay. Gosh. 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:26.500 Now, if you think about how that date may be important in our world history, 00:13:26.500 --> 00:13:32.160 it's because it was right before the COVID shutdown. 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:39.780 And I actually, I was very concerned about this. And when I landed... 00:13:41.540 --> 00:13:45.180 The satellite internet had stopped working on the flight over overnight. 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.160 So all of a sudden, I was trying to get updates on what's going on. 00:13:47.340 --> 00:13:49.400 We're all very worried about what's going on with COVID rearing, 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:51.020 about shutdowns, things, stuff, or whatever. 00:13:51.500 --> 00:13:55.220 And we landed, and literally all our phones blared, and all the flight attendants, 00:13:55.260 --> 00:13:57.480 and everybody from America's flight attendant was standing nearby. 00:13:57.580 --> 00:14:01.760 We're all in shock because America announced right when we landed that all flights 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:06.000 to South America, international, were all suspended. And that was the moment that we landed. 00:14:06.660 --> 00:14:06.960 Wow. 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:16.620 So I beat, like, not being stuck, like, in some foreign country for months by 00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:20.000 a very, by a whisker, okay? 00:14:20.340 --> 00:14:22.580 And so, but one thing is that. 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:27.240 i i love brazil i have a lot of friends it's a 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.000 great country i just always like go to people it's like 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:39.460 i saw how brazil had one of the biggest developments of a middle class that 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:44.540 we've had in history from when i used to visit in the 90s to like now where 00:14:44.540 --> 00:14:49.940 i mean brazil was so poor when i I used to visit in the 90s. 00:14:50.820 --> 00:14:54.940 And one of the things to give credit to the current president, 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:59.480 even though he was sent to jail for bribery and he's out and now he's president 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:01.180 again. But okay, you know, who's counting? 00:15:01.420 --> 00:15:04.320 But who's counting, right? Okay, at least they did send him to jail. 00:15:04.540 --> 00:15:05.680 Okay, I can say that. Okay. 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:14.260 That they take a lot of people out of poverty. It was just the transformation 00:15:14.260 --> 00:15:18.960 where I still remember one thing that I always found incredible was looking 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:20.340 out a window out of our office. 00:15:20.540 --> 00:15:26.780 We're back in the 90s. There was this huge favela. And as time passed, it disappeared. 00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:31.160 And it's not because, you know, like in certain places, you know, 00:15:31.180 --> 00:15:32.480 in cities where they try to like 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.160 hide all the homeless. No, it's because people were making more money. 00:15:35.740 --> 00:15:41.820 It's because actually, heaven forbid, there was income distribution. 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:46.980 It happened where the poor got more money instead of just the rich having money. 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:51.700 There was an economy that grew and the poor were made richer. 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.480 And it was just one of those things that, and it was just kind of one of those 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.880 interesting things that I saw out a window where you saw, I remember this place 00:15:58.880 --> 00:16:00.580 where all of a sudden it was favela and all of a sudden disappeared, 00:16:00.680 --> 00:16:01.220 disappeared, disappeared. 00:16:01.460 --> 00:16:04.140 Yes, what happened? Oh, well, people got money. They got houses. 00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:04.780 They moved out. 00:16:05.560 --> 00:16:09.900 he got to go to places it's like it's one of those things good i just remember 00:16:09.900 --> 00:16:14.800 something with the it rained one night really it was really crazy so yeah we 00:16:14.800 --> 00:16:19.320 were not in a bus i'll just say we were not tourists in a bus we had people 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:23.020 that knew the area that were from okay very specific area, 00:16:23.560 --> 00:16:26.280 but i yes but i had a lot to learn and it 00:16:26.280 --> 00:16:29.080 was really helpful to learn about that experience while i 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.800 was there with a friend who was like this is

00:16:31.800 --> 00:16:36.180 what i learned as a white person from marysville washington as well and like 00:16:36.180 --> 00:16:40.180 who's traveled here and stayed here for a long time so there's a lot of things 00:16:40.180 --> 00:16:43.480 that i didn't understand like the tipping culture i thought was really interesting 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:49.480 um they don't i i was like i want to tip and he's like do not tip them do not tip they. 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.400 Don't yeah they don't it's not yeah. 00:16:51.400 --> 00:16:54.900 That was something that you know threw me off but that i do remember we were 00:16:54.900 --> 00:17:00.520 having a great like you know we are having steak at a friend of his home it 00:17:00.520 --> 00:17:01.800 started pouring down rain. 00:17:02.180 --> 00:17:08.260 We saw, you know, police officers like coming up, you know, the favela, 00:17:08.380 --> 00:17:10.380 like the hill that was right up. 00:17:10.380 --> 00:17:14.240 Yeah, yeah. It was really- Usually on hills. Yeah. And when it rains, 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:18.120 I mean, the storm of water that comes through is a gusher. 00:17:18.300 --> 00:17:20.520 Yeah. There was a couch that came down the hill. 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll happen. 00:17:23.660 --> 00:17:27.920 Side, but underneath things watching, we were like, holy shit. Like, you know, 00:17:28.490 --> 00:17:33.610 But, you know, his host father that was there was talking to us about how he 00:17:33.610 --> 00:17:37.710 felt a lot safer in the favelas than he did when he was, you know, 00:17:37.810 --> 00:17:39.510 out in other areas of the city. 00:17:39.530 --> 00:17:43.510 And we were there during New Year's Eve, which I'll tell you was, 00:17:43.670 --> 00:17:47.190 you know, being on Copacabana Beach, I'll never see fireworks, 00:17:47.430 --> 00:17:52.070 no matter what, that will ever, like, compare to that firework show. 00:17:52.570 --> 00:17:55.390 and but i did have a um it was 00:17:55.390 --> 00:17:58.070 a i was wearing a necklace someone told me not to wear you know 00:17:58.070 --> 00:18:00.970 jewelry and i was wearing like a cheap gold necklace it was 00:18:00.970 --> 00:18:05.450 nothing it was like you know i forgot i even had it on it was just so flimsy 00:18:05.450 --> 00:18:10.290 or whatever and this you know kid started going like you know getting in front 00:18:10.290 --> 00:18:15.410 of me went like this and then grabbed at my neck to grab my necklace and this 00:18:15.410 --> 00:18:19.170 was as we were like going there to to new year's and going to the beach and i was 00:18:19.290 --> 00:18:21.950 what the heck? And my friend, you know, pulled him aside. 00:18:22.370 --> 00:18:26.230 Later, he went to go find some friends of his that were trying to find us, 00:18:26.310 --> 00:18:30.050 which I don't know how he found us back on the beach because we just slow. 00:18:30.290 --> 00:18:31.270 There's like so many people. Yeah. 00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:36.230 I mean, we made our little area and then we just, you know, it just zoomed in. 00:18:36.590 --> 00:18:41.650 We had nothing at the end of it. And so he said that he ended up seeing that 00:18:41.650 --> 00:18:46.030 little boy later and he was beat to a pull because he was, you know, 00:18:46.330 --> 00:18:49.850 like basically trying to rob people at the beach. It was just like. 00:18:50.050 --> 00:18:54.030 Yeah, probably some people were like, okay, enough, you know, come on. 00:18:54.410 --> 00:18:57.950 He was, you know, helpless, you know, or like, I mean, yeah, 00:18:58.070 --> 00:19:00.050 it was really, it was just interesting. 00:19:00.330 --> 00:19:05.490 And then that was also when, it was 2018, you know, my husband and I remember 00:19:05.490 --> 00:19:09.910 this because my spouse and I, we got engaged on the beach and it was really interesting. 00:19:10.070 --> 00:19:11.390 Oh, oh, there you go. 00:19:11.590 --> 00:19:14.970 He was literally holding this ring that he wouldn't want to get robbed. 00:19:15.850 --> 00:19:16.850 whole time. 00:19:17.750 --> 00:19:22.070 Listen, I did get robbed in Brazil. Okay. They stole my briefcase at the airport. 00:19:22.370 --> 00:19:28.410 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was, it was, it was, it was an opportunity to, it was stupid. 00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:33.150 I was checking in at the ticket counter and there actually had a gang of people 00:19:33.150 --> 00:19:35.710 that were preying on, on people at the ticket counter. 00:19:35.870 --> 00:19:39.470 I was super exhausted. I put my briefcase on the floor and they caused a commotion 00:19:39.470 --> 00:19:41.630 behind me. And all of a sudden I looked down again at my briefcase. 00:19:42.570 --> 00:19:46.710 Yeah, I mean, that was an experience I don't think I would ever, 00:19:46.710 --> 00:19:50.610 like, have been able to do without having the relationship with the friends 00:19:50.610 --> 00:19:54.510 that we had, that my, you know, husband had. It was incredible. 00:19:54.830 --> 00:19:58.030 But we were there for three weeks, and that was too long. Oh, there you go. 00:19:58.290 --> 00:20:02.950 That was too long to go anywhere and to be away. Sam, have you been to Brazil? 00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:05.410 I have not. 00:20:05.970 --> 00:20:06.270 Yeah. 00:20:06.370 --> 00:20:10.070 But he's been to Portuguese-speaking countries. That is true. 00:20:10.830 --> 00:20:14.470 I lived in Mozambique when I was two to four years old, yes. 00:20:15.670 --> 00:20:18.550 And I visited there once when I was college age as well. 00:20:18.570 --> 00:20:19.650 When you were in college, yeah. 00:20:20.030 --> 00:20:20.250 Yeah. 00:20:20.430 --> 00:20:20.770 Yeah. 00:20:20.770 --> 00:20:21.270 Somewhere over there. 00:20:21.470 --> 00:20:28.430 But yeah, no. And I believe on the way back from Africa, we stopped in Portugal. 00:20:29.270 --> 00:20:30.490 Yeah, okay, that doesn't count. 00:20:30.590 --> 00:20:34.370 When I was

four years old. Like, we stayed there for like a week or something. 00:20:34.710 --> 00:20:36.970 Okay. Well, very good, Sam. 00:20:37.550 --> 00:20:43.210 I have very vague memories of this house we stayed at when I was four years 00:20:43.210 --> 00:20:44.990 old on the way back to the U.S. 00:20:45.010 --> 00:20:51.310 from Africa because the guy had an accordion, and I was very intrigued by the accordion. 00:20:51.570 --> 00:20:52.050 Oh. 00:20:52.330 --> 00:20:57.490 Outside his place, they had people playing, what is it, bocce ball or whatever? 00:20:57.730 --> 00:20:57.790 Yes, yes. 00:20:57.790 --> 00:21:07.790 I was very intrigued by that. And I believe this is also where I got a little toy truck that I really, 00:21:07.950 --> 00:21:13.530 really enjoyed until I lost it when my parents and I were visiting New York 00:21:13.530 --> 00:21:17.010 City several years later. And it upset me ever since. 00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:22.290 To this day, I am upset. It was a little double truck thing, 00:21:22.590 --> 00:21:26.210 like matchbox car size. And I probably 00:21:26.210 --> 00:21:30.830 had it from when I was four to when maybe I was like six or seven. 00:21:31.330 --> 00:21:36.990 And then I think I left it at the house of the people we were visiting. 00:21:37.270 --> 00:21:39.290 But I never got the damn thing back. 00:21:39.650 --> 00:21:43.750 And I'm pissed to this day. I'm like, I should call up my mom and dad, 00:21:43.950 --> 00:21:48.430 find out who we were visiting, and go see if they're still alive. As you can see. 00:21:48.570 --> 00:21:53.830 Sam will hold grudges for a long time. Okay, so don't cross them. 00:21:55.370 --> 00:22:04.050 Hey, it's been slightly less than 50 years, like maybe 48 or 49 years. 00:22:04.570 --> 00:22:11.750 So, well, I'll make one, you know, aside from like asking Emily about her podcast 00:22:11.750 --> 00:22:13.190 and like her adventures, 00:22:13.370 --> 00:22:19.730 I want to just say one thing because we didn't talk about this in the last week 00:22:19.730 --> 00:22:23.530 because we didn't record after this happened. that I'll make a mention about... 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:26.480 My buddy that passed away on Wednesday. 00:22:27.220 --> 00:22:28.280 I'm so sorry. 00:22:30.260 --> 00:22:37.840 So last, when I was around after Christmas, I had a call from a mutual friend 00:22:37.840 --> 00:22:44.100 of ours that a friend of our friend, a friend I have, Bob Corby. He, uh, but he was sick. 00:22:44.600 --> 00:22:47.100 And I was like, Mark, how sick is he? 00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:51.620 I don't know. Wow, baby. And, you know, Mark is old, but much older. 00:22:51.760 --> 00:22:54.080 And I met him like 20 some odd years ago. 00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:57.540 and i met him because we had boats i i used to 00:22:57.540 --> 00:23:01.980 do a lot of stuff with boats and and 00:23:01.980 --> 00:23:04.900 i go and i'm like you know so but is 00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:08.180 he okay i think he's okay okay well

00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:11.480 i i call him back i call bob 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:14.140 a couple of days later hey bob are you okay no i'm at 00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:18.540 the hospital i'm like shit you're at the hospital well do you know do they know 00:23:18.540 --> 00:23:23.340 what you have they don't know they're doing tests so i go i went to visit him 00:23:23.340 --> 00:23:28.360 and he was jaundiced he was yellow i mean he was not looking good of course 00:23:28.360 --> 00:23:33.620 and the doctors were there for and they couldn't figure out what the heck was wrong with him, 00:23:36.050 --> 00:23:40.210 Next day or two, they said that they had discovered that he had a cancer that metastasized. 00:23:40.370 --> 00:23:44.170 They'd metastasized all over. Basically, there was nothing that they could do 00:23:44.170 --> 00:23:48.130 that they were just sending him to hospice right away. 00:23:50.850 --> 00:23:55.710 And I went to, this was like, so this was Tuesday. Thursday, I found that out. 00:23:55.850 --> 00:23:58.870 Friday, I saw him at the hospital. They were sending him to hospice over the weekend. 00:23:59.750 --> 00:24:04.110 I was going to go try visit him this week. I found out where they sent him to hospice on Monday. 00:24:04.970 --> 00:24:11.750 so and Wednesday morning they called me that he passed away hmm that's awful uh, 00:24:13.010 --> 00:24:17.370 and that was just you know Bob was I posted something online about, 00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:22.550 look I met him just because I needed somebody to drive a boat I come down here 00:24:22.550 --> 00:24:28.510 and I didn't I I'm one that knows how to drive a boat I took Sam to the, 00:24:29.530 --> 00:24:33.950 Virgin Islands on a boat with a compass and a map back then there was no GPS 00:24:33.950 --> 00:24:35.890 Yes, basically from Puerto Rico. 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:40.150 All I had was a, not even a map. I didn't even use a chart. I knew where we were going. 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:44.450 I'm like, I just used the, I'm like, ah, we're going to go, we're going to go west. There you go. 00:24:44.530 --> 00:24:44.630 That way. 00:24:45.010 --> 00:24:49.470 That way. Basically. Just follow the compass. But over here, 00:24:49.470 --> 00:24:53.490 I didn't know this area and it's like dangerous, honestly. 00:24:54.330 --> 00:24:55.770 Charts don't show everything. 00:24:56.070 --> 00:25:01.510 You didn't have to jump on an island when you were there somehow that you shouldn't 00:25:01.510 --> 00:25:04.030 have been on, right? like on that trip. 00:25:04.330 --> 00:25:06.270 Sorry. No, no, no. 00:25:06.810 --> 00:25:10.430 But Yvonne has mentioned we passed within sight of it. 00:25:10.450 --> 00:25:15.690 Okay, we did pass within sight of it. Yes, we passed actually less than, 00:25:17.110 --> 00:25:19.450 Probably a couple hundred feet from it. 00:25:19.730 --> 00:25:23.190 Okay. Okay. I've already written this down. We are coming to visit you, 00:25:23.310 --> 00:25:27.410 and you are taking us on a boat. Me and Sammy need to go. 00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:27.970 Okay. 00:25:28.990 --> 00:25:31.630 He doesn't have the boat anymore. He got rid of it a long time ago. 00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:34.330 I don't have a boat right now. I've got to buy another boat at some point, but, you know. 00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:38.310 These people tell me to come to Florida, and until I met you, 00:25:38.690 --> 00:25:40.690 I didn't feel like I had a reason. 00:25:41.830 --> 00:25:45.190 I don't have a boat. My wife wants me to buy another boat, but I don't have 00:25:45.190 --> 00:25:48.730 a boat right now again. But we did come within a couple of hundred feet, 00:25:48.750 --> 00:25:51.330 you know, of that island. 00:25:51.510 --> 00:25:55.130 That island is exactly there. When you leave, if you go to St. 00:25:55.530 --> 00:25:59.990 Thomas, okay, specifically, and St. Thomas, the U.S. Virgin Islands are a chain of islands. 00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:03.310 You got St. Thomas, St. John, St. Croix, which is further south where Joe Biden 00:26:03.310 --> 00:26:06.590 was on vacation recently. But that was like further south. But St. 00:26:07.650 --> 00:26:11.030 Thomas and St. John are very close. 00:26:11.030 --> 00:26:14.650 And when you go from the capital of Charlotte, Amalia, to get to St. 00:26:14.790 --> 00:26:20.730 John, you actually, the passage that you cross in order to go over there goes 00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:22.250 right by Epstein Island. 00:26:22.850 --> 00:26:28.910 It's like right by there. OK, so, yeah, it's an island that I saw and passed 00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:33.490 by many times through there. 00:26:34.050 --> 00:26:37.270 And I saw the house. I remember you could see the house. 00:26:37.750 --> 00:26:44.590 But I never in a billion effing years thought that's what was going on at that damn place. 00:26:45.110 --> 00:26:50.630 I mean, I would if there's just a bunch of, like, you know, expensive fucking boats there. 00:26:50.890 --> 00:26:54.130 Excuse my French, but, like, I'd be like, something's going on over there. 00:26:54.390 --> 00:26:58.450 You know, there's a lot of, listen, a lot of expensive boats out there. 00:26:58.570 --> 00:27:02.570 And as far as I remember growing up, there was no pedophilia going around, 00:27:02.870 --> 00:27:07.610 okay, all right, with the people, at least the ones I knew, okay? That's all I know. 00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:10.570 But you know what, though? Like, I look back. 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.240 on, you know, we read Virginia's book, right? 00:27:14.540 --> 00:27:19.340 Gouffre's book. And I, all I can think of when I'm like listening to or reading 00:27:19.340 --> 00:27:22.920 her book and thinking back about this time was just, you know, 00:27:23.580 --> 00:27:28.200 Britney Spears growing up in this world of, you know, the Christina Aguilera's, 00:27:28.260 --> 00:27:30.100 the Britney Spears, the feeling. 00:27:30.260 --> 00:27:35.880 I remember, I remember the countdown

pages for various female teenage celebrities, 00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:42.920 like on the web you could go to like pages and be like how many days until they turn 18 and are legal. 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:44.160 Seriously that. 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.520 That that was a thing. 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:52.320 Oh yeah for like for the olsen twins for britney spears for. 00:27:52.320 --> 00:27:54.680 All if if you had a famous. 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.460 Female celebrity who was a teenager there. 00:27:58.460 --> 00:28:01.340 Were countdowns for like when they turn legal. 00:28:01.340 --> 00:28:04.120 The the way that we were 00:28:04.120 --> 00:28:07.420 like i was treated as like an old millennial 00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:11.760 you know like i remember that like the what we needed how we needed to look 00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:16.740 how we needed to feel what we were jealous of the expectations of women it is 00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:21.120 it's so creepy it's like hindsight's 2020 though too because i didn't see it 00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:26.360 but like looking back and reading the number of quotes that she quotes, like, 00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:28.720 the odd songs, you know, in her book. 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:35.660 Yeah, and, well, you're talking, like, the early aughts. If you go back to the 80s or 90s, it was worse. 00:28:36.280 --> 00:28:42.920 Yeah. You know, if you look at a lot of 80s media, like, there are all sorts 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.860 of movies that have as a theme the older guy and the teenager. 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:51.420 There's songs going back to the 50s and 60s that have that theme. 00:28:51.540 --> 00:28:57.900 Look, to be fair, okay, look, in the reverse, Look, I did like older women, 00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:01.620 okay, especially when I was younger, and I did date. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.180 Like, when I was 16, I know more. Once I went out with somebody that was 18, 19, 20. 00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:11.540 Okay, and when I was 18— By the way. 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.380 16 and 18 is starting to push it a little bit, but it's still, 00:29:15.380 --> 00:29:17.840 like, within the realm of, eh. 00:29:18.320 --> 00:29:22.700 But, like, what we're really talking about is the 16-year-old with the 30-something guy. 00:29:22.780 --> 00:29:27.340 Yeah, well, okay, but the girlfriend that you met that I had when we were at 00:29:27.340 --> 00:29:32.240 Cardi Bell and Sabina, when I was 18, 19, she was 23. 00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:37.020 Right. Well, once you're 18, 19, it's a little bit different, too. 00:29:37.020 --> 00:29:41.100 Like there's a, there's a lot bigger of a difference that we were 22. 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:47.480 Okay. It was like, you know, my point is, you see, I realized why I wasn't interested 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.140 in those countdown pages because I liked older women. 00:29:51.820 --> 00:29:55.400 I was like, no, no, no, I don't want, I don't want young image. No, no. 00:29:55.500 --> 00:30:00.000 Give me something, you know, give me older. No, no, I don't want to deal with that. 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:02.180 That's the way to do it. 00:30:02.840 --> 00:30:04.400 So anyway, so that was it. 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.200 And now you're creeping on the 70-year-olds whenever you get a chance. 00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:12.160 Right. Exactly. Of course. Yes. Well, listen, the youngest woman I dated, 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.040 who is my current wife, because I met her at a party. 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.740 Listen, I met her at a party in South Beach where it was a work party, 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.380 okay, that somebody had bought a condo. 00:30:23.620 --> 00:30:27.180 Somebody from a friend of mine or a co-worker bought a condo. 00:30:27.320 --> 00:30:30.300 This was, by the way, this is when condos in Miami Beach were cheap. 00:30:30.520 --> 00:30:33.860 Okay. All right. This is like 25 plus years ago. 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.600 and you know bought this little condo whatever and we went there for a party 00:30:38.600 --> 00:30:41.880 and i met her and i thought she was like i don't know my age or whatever then 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.600 i realized she was like i was like eight years older and she was and i was like 00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:47.700 the heck i'm like i didn't realize that i was you know, 00:30:48.360 --> 00:30:52.360 but but you know she was of age anyway she was like this was not like you know 00:30:52.360 --> 00:30:56.420 she's 20 she was in her 20s we were both in our 20s i just thought that she 00:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.880 was like my age not not eight years younger than I was, you know. 00:31:01.280 --> 00:31:03.480 Damn it. But then we're not getting married. 00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:04.260 God, I always keep you scared of me. 00:31:07.230 --> 00:31:11.990 Well, Sam, are you going to review a book? I mean, a movie? 00:31:13.050 --> 00:31:17.690 Well, I was going to, but we've sort of like been going on and on and on. 00:31:17.990 --> 00:31:24.410 No, but we're way behind on your movie reviews. We need to catch up on a movie review. So come on. 00:31:24.810 --> 00:31:25.530 Just one? 00:31:26.410 --> 00:31:28.310 Yes. Let's get to movie review. 00:31:28.570 --> 00:31:32.390 The next thing is actually a book. It is not a movie. 00:31:32.870 --> 00:31:36.530 What the heck? My brain actually picked it out. This is, Okay. 00:31:37.010 --> 00:31:38.130 Somehow, for some reason. 00:31:38.290 --> 00:31:38.830 You got it right. 00:31:39.050 --> 00:31:39.270 Okay. 00:31:39.890 --> 00:31:43.550 This is one that Alex and I read together. 00:31:44.630 --> 00:31:49.670 As I've mentioned on the show before, all of my book reading at this point, 00:31:50.070 --> 00:31:55.510 both one series I have of ones I'm picking for myself and a separate simultaneous 00:31:55.510 --> 00:32:01.230 series of ones I'm picking for Alex that are mainly books that I liked when 00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:06.270 I was his age that I'm choosing to read

again with him. So we got both things going. 00:32:06.450 --> 00:32:13.750 This is from, this actually came up in my list, but then we are continuing the series with him. 00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:18.490 But all of these, by the way, the way we're doing these, despite the fact that 00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:23.230 he's 16 years old right now, is I am reading them out loud to him. 00:32:23.230 --> 00:32:28.590 This is so ridiculous. I mean, how long does it take? 00:32:28.670 --> 00:32:34.590 I mean, this has to be the slowest damn process in the history of mankind to go through a book. 00:32:35.170 --> 00:32:39.070 Well, we're doing it in half hour chunks. Like, we do a half hour at a time, 00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:40.130 and I will read for half an hour. 00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:42.470 So how many pages do you go through in half an hour? 00:32:43.870 --> 00:32:46.910 I don't know. I'm reading on a Kindle. I don't know what a page is. 00:32:46.930 --> 00:32:47.270 It's true. 00:32:49.870 --> 00:32:54.550 I love that idea I read to James when he's driving like you know when we take 00:32:54.550 --> 00:33:00.430 long road trips it's either you know or it's me reading with him I know some 00:33:00.430 --> 00:33:04.750 people can't do that but I'm lucky that I can so I like to read out loud my. 00:33:04.750 --> 00:33:11.990 Wife on a road trip goes to sleep and we blast like EDM music the whole way 00:33:11.990 --> 00:33:17.910 on a and my wife somehow figures out how to go to sleep and between us like just go and like on a, 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.660 on a heater of just bagged music. 00:33:22.980 --> 00:33:28.840 Anyway, to move on, this is a book I liked when I was a teenager. 00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:35.680 It's A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. Le Guin, published originally in 1968. 00:33:36.540 --> 00:33:36.720 Okay. 00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:42.580 It is a fantasy novel. She wrote both fantasy and science fiction. 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:49.140 This particular one, reading from Wikipedia, It is regarded as a classic of 00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:53.340 children's literature and of fantasy within which it is widely influential. 00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:00.540 The story is set in the fictional archipelago of Earthsea and centers on a young 00:34:00.540 --> 00:34:05.020 mage named Ged, born in a village on the island of Gaunt. 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:10.140 He displays great power while still a boy and joins a school of wizardry where 00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:13.640 his prickly nature drives him into conflict with a fellow student. 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:20.140 During a magical duel, Ged's spell goes awry and releases a shadow creature that attacks him. 00:34:20.580 --> 00:34:24.480 The novel follows Ged's journey as he seeks to be free of the creature. 00:34:25.120 --> 00:34:30.600 Anyway, and this is the first of a series of books. It was originally written 00:34:30.600 --> 00:34:35.640 as a one-off, but then she ended up doing a bunch of sequels afterwards. 00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:42.160 And I think back when I was a teenager, I read this first one and maybe the 00:34:42.160 --> 00:34:45.260 second one, but not any further in the series. 00:34:45.680 --> 00:34:49.540 And I didn't, you know, I didn't really remember much from the second one, 00:34:49.600 --> 00:34:54.300 but the first one, you know, was, was impactful for me. 00:34:54.420 --> 00:34:58.320 There were several items, there are several bits of it that I remembered, 00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:00.460 even though I hadn't read it since I was a. 00:35:05.070 --> 00:35:12.770 Oh, yeah, I remember really noticing and thinking, oh, this is an important 00:35:12.770 --> 00:35:14.690 insight. This is really cool. 00:35:14.870 --> 00:35:16.950 This is whatever. Back when I was a teenager. 00:35:17.310 --> 00:35:22.170 Anyway, reading it again with my son. First of all, I really enjoyed it again. 00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:25.330 Big, huge thumbs up on this one, too. 00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:25.870 Okay. 00:35:26.070 --> 00:35:31.710 It is sort of a coming of age teenager, goes through an adventure, 00:35:32.310 --> 00:35:36.190 becomes an adult sort of through the process of maturing and figuring out what's 00:35:36.190 --> 00:35:38.750 going on. So it is that kind of story. 00:35:39.550 --> 00:35:43.930 I remember originally sort of being blown away by the ending, 00:35:45.210 --> 00:35:52.630 being like, oh, wow, you know, and reading it now, on the one hand, 00:35:52.630 --> 00:35:57.150 I was like, actually, that ending was kind of telegraphed and obvious. 00:35:57.850 --> 00:36:02.230 But then again, I remember I'd read it before. 00:36:02.570 --> 00:36:03.190 You read it before. 00:36:03.990 --> 00:36:09.490 And I knew what happened. And so I was anticipating the ending the entire time 00:36:09.490 --> 00:36:10.990 I was reading the book again. 00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:13.850 But I think... 00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:18.390 I think as an adult, having read a lot more things and have gone through a bunch 00:36:18.390 --> 00:36:21.930 of tropes, I probably, you know, anticipated the ending anyway, 00:36:22.210 --> 00:36:24.210 even though, but it's hard to tell. 00:36:24.370 --> 00:36:27.910 Like, what's it, is it really more obvious than I thought it was when I was a teenager? 00:36:28.170 --> 00:36:30.690 Or did I just know the ending because I'd read it before? 00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:35.690 I'm going to guess that you knew the ending because you had read it before. Yes. 00:36:36.950 --> 00:36:40.130 But anyway, big thumbs up. 00:36:40.230 --> 00:36:43.370 The other thing that I had not 00:36:43.370 --> 00:36:46.070 caught on to at all when I was a 00:36:46.070 --> 00:36:51.990 teenager that I noticed a lot this time and comes specifically because I was 00:36:51.990 --> 00:37:00.510 reading it out loud is how much the word choices were such that it's almost 00:37:00.510 --> 00:37:03.990 obvious it was meant to be read out loud. 00:37:04.290 --> 00:37:09.550

There's a lot of places where there's like a rhythm in the words. 00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:14.050 What's the age target that the book you think had when you read it? 00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:20.450 The age target was definitely, it was intended as older children, young teenagers. 00:37:20.550 --> 00:37:23.050 That was the target audience for the book original. 00:37:23.770 --> 00:37:28.430 And I think as you go through some of the sequels, it ages up with them a little bit. 00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:37.270 But the thing is, it was, you know, just reading it, it was almost poetic in a variety of places. 00:37:37.470 --> 00:37:40.110 I mean, it was never outright like, I'm reading a poem. 00:37:40.530 --> 00:37:46.350 But it was clear that the author paid a lot of attention to things like the 00:37:46.350 --> 00:37:49.930 cadence of the words, the rhythm that was going on, 00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:53.870 that the fact that when you said it out loud, 00:37:53.870 --> 00:38:01.490 it had more power than if you were just reading it and zooming past the words, 00:38:01.490 --> 00:38:05.690 not thinking about how they were pronounced and how they were said. 00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:12.930 And so that, I kept noticing that over and over and over again as I read this 00:38:12.930 --> 00:38:15.690 book out loud. You know, places where, 00:38:16.900 --> 00:38:20.740 You know, there was alliteration. There was, I keep saying rhythm. 00:38:20.900 --> 00:38:21.860 There was definitely rhythm. 00:38:22.060 --> 00:38:27.880 There were definitely, like, patterns to the tone where all of it sort of came 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:33.420 together in a way that I noticed because I was reading it out loud. Okay, question. 00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.680 How long did it take you to read the book? 00:38:37.720 --> 00:38:40.000 Okay, hold on. I will tell you. 00:38:40.060 --> 00:38:43.360 I know you know this. I know he knows it. He tracks this. 00:38:43.780 --> 00:38:45.880 Yes, I log all these. Let's see. 00:38:46.060 --> 00:38:47.000 Right. Of course you do. 00:38:48.120 --> 00:38:54.020 And, you know, I should have brought it up already to have that ready, but I didn't. 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:56.120 Come on, Sam. 00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:57.880 I'm going for the logging. 00:38:58.160 --> 00:39:00.140 I have to cut your pay, Sam, again. 00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:09.400 Yes, definitely. Okay. Wizard of Earthsea began on May 8, 2024, 00:39:10.340 --> 00:39:12.800 finished on March 2, 2025. 00:39:13.120 --> 00:39:16.220 It was 198 pages long. 00:39:16.380 --> 00:39:21.780 It took 298 days to read it. So that's an average of 0.7 pages per day. 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:27.800 Now, keep in mind, keep in mind, this is, we were not reading every day. 00:39:28.560 --> 00:39:28.980 Right. 00:39:29.160 --> 00:39:34.880 I mentioned we would do the half hour of reading maybe once a week or so. So. 00:39:35.080 --> 00:39:38.000 And then what, did you all of a sudden pack a few, you know, 00:39:38.120 -->

00:39:42.800 like a long reading session where you read out loud for what, an hour or so? 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.280 No, no, no. Every, it was always half hour sessions. 00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:51.120 So if you estimate, we did a session about once a week and it was 0.7, 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:55.220 then 0.7 times seven, about five pages a day. 00:39:55.590 --> 00:39:56.610 Five pages a day. 00:39:56.770 --> 00:39:58.910 Five pages per half hour session. 00:39:58.910 --> 00:39:59.730 Per half hour session. 00:40:00.010 --> 00:40:00.070 Okay. 00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:01.510 Approximately. 00:40:01.890 --> 00:40:05.590 There's no judgment here. You know, you gotta. 00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:10.750 No, no, no. It's just, you know, it's just, I'm always, I'm not judging. I always just laugh. 00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:15.710 Sam's methods are always like very interesting to, to understand, 00:40:15.710 --> 00:40:21.210 you know, what, how he, how he goes about to get a task completed, you know. 00:40:21.610 --> 00:40:25.470 See, I don't know is why we've been wasting our time on JK Rowling. 00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:29.890 her bullshit when this existed, you know, when this book's here. And also I needed to. 00:40:30.070 --> 00:40:35.730 Can I say that I've been at the forefront of the anti-JK Rowling thing because 00:40:35.730 --> 00:40:39.490 I never wanted to read any of her shit or watch any of her movies. 00:40:39.550 --> 00:40:41.910 So I consider myself a pioneer. 00:40:42.370 --> 00:40:43.070 Yeah, you are. 00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:46.530 Well, you know, there are similarities. Obviously, this is a wizard who goes 00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:48.850 to a wizarding school and figures out stuff. 00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:52.890 And, you know, so you got some similarities. And this was, of course, many decades earlier. 00:40:53.250 --> 00:40:58.130 The details are all completely different, of course. But, you know, 00:40:58.190 --> 00:41:01.270 there's definitely some similarities there. 00:41:01.530 --> 00:41:08.470 And I think this is definitely superior in sort of a literary and how well thought 00:41:08.470 --> 00:41:11.770 out it is sort of way to J.K. Rowling. 00:41:13.970 --> 00:41:19.850 And there are also some things. She has complained, the author of this, who died a few years ago. 00:41:19.850 --> 00:41:30.170 But there were a handful of attempts to make made-for-TV movies or miniseries 00:41:30.170 --> 00:41:33.450 or whatever out of this book, and she hated all of them. 00:41:33.710 --> 00:41:34.350 Oh, yeah. 00:41:34.430 --> 00:41:41.810 And one of the reasons she hated him all is that she intentionally made the main character black. 00:41:43.170 --> 00:41:48.550 And when they made, like, movies, the miniseries or whatever, they made him white. 00:41:49.010 --> 00:41:53.650 Yeah, he's like, not just white, because I was looking this up because I wanted to see. 00:41:54.410 --> 00:41:59.230 He's like, he's like redhead white. Like, he's as white as you

can be. 00:41:59.350 --> 00:42:01.230 It's not even, like, white passing. 00:42:02.110 --> 00:42:04.010 it's like white. 00:42:04.010 --> 00:42:06.870 Yeah and you 00:42:06.870 --> 00:42:09.750 know and i i we are going through the rest 00:42:09.750 --> 00:42:12.610 of the series now we actually just started the third 00:42:12.610 --> 00:42:16.890 book in this series a couple weeks ago but but 00:42:16.890 --> 00:42:20.310 yeah like i have not watched any of the the 00:42:20.310 --> 00:42:23.050 things the the the video remakes of this 00:42:23.050 --> 00:42:25.910 i have put them on my list i will see them 00:42:25.910 --> 00:42:28.830 if they come up but all but apparently she hated 00:42:28.830 --> 00:42:31.790 them she was like upset that she'd sold the rights because 00:42:31.790 --> 00:42:34.690 she was guaranteed that they would do a good job 00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:37.890 and she'd have some creative input and then they didn't do any 00:42:37.890 --> 00:42:43.650 of that um and but but yeah this is it's good stuff i enjoy it and apparently 00:42:43.650 --> 00:42:49.750 this is the only series of hers i've read but she has a bunch of other output 00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:54.610 that she did both in the science fiction and fantasy genres and apparently it's 00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:56.170 almost all universally really good. 00:42:56.710 --> 00:42:59.330 So they, it sounds like thumbs up. 00:42:59.470 --> 00:43:00.910 Well, thumbs up for sure. 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:01.530 Absolutely. 00:43:01.770 --> 00:43:04.870 Okay. All right. So double checking, make sure that we got our preview. 00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:09.650 It also sounds like A24 is currently developing a new TV series with hopes for 00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:11.570 a more faithful rendition. 00:43:12.150 --> 00:43:12.890 Oh, nice. 00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:14.850 There you go. Hopefully you can fix that. 00:43:15.470 --> 00:43:15.590 Yeah. 00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:18.750 Well, but to be fair, look, we are. I know. 00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:23.590 You know, the other day I was hearing somebody complaining about how they portrayed 00:43:23.590 --> 00:43:26.190 some Cuban or something as a redhead. 00:43:26.330 --> 00:43:29.450 Look, one of my best friends. I think you met him. 00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:32.010 I met the one you're talking about. 00:43:32.190 --> 00:43:36.050 Yes, it's a massive redhead and he's 100 percent Puerto Rican. 00:43:36.830 --> 00:43:42.150 Well one of the things she did in this book is she very intentionally she set 00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:47.070 out a world that had a lot of diversity and there were a lot of people you know 00:43:47.070 --> 00:43:49.870 with a whole bunch of different descriptions it is a hell hole. 00:43:49.870 --> 00:43:55.970 For steve miller sam is what what she said she designed a complete complete 00:43:55.970 --> 00:44:01.470 the the nightmares of which hannity's nightmares and you know what's his name 00:44:01.470 --> 00:44:04.790 steve miller and what's that other asshole and fucking fox news i keep forgetting 00:44:04.790 --> 00:44:09.750 for for an idea the other the other fucker i care tucker oh tucker carlson the one they took. 00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:13.310 Off now the one thing i did read in her introduction is 00:44:13.310 --> 00:44:16.150 that after the fact after this first book 00:44:16.150 --> 00:44:19.470 came out and was very popular and whatever she realized 00:44:19.470 --> 00:44:22.330 and criticized herself for being 00:44:22.330 --> 00:44:25.310 a female author who created a very male book 00:44:25.310 --> 00:44:30.130 for the first book well there are a couple of female characters but they're 00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:35.370 secondary or even tertiary characters and so she corrected that in the second 00:44:35.370 --> 00:44:39.910 book and there was a major female character in the second book but but she's 00:44:39.910 --> 00:44:42.410 like what the hell am i doing you know. 00:44:43.290 --> 00:44:47.030 George rr martin says that to people all the time you know i mean he's creating 00:44:47.030 --> 00:44:50.410 like i don't know it's kind of weird to me sometimes hearing the stories about 00:44:50.410 --> 00:44:54.250 these women that george rr martin wrote it you know about women but 00:44:54.670 --> 00:44:59.150 Yeah, like, I think good for them. Take a different perspective. 00:44:59.150 --> 00:45:02.870 Sometimes, look, like I've mentioned that we talked about this here sometimes. 00:45:02.870 --> 00:45:06.750 So we have these subconscious bias and things that are created to us, 00:45:06.830 --> 00:45:11.430 even including ourselves, about who we should be and how should something be 00:45:11.430 --> 00:45:13.570 portrayed and who should be in it. 00:45:13.670 --> 00:45:18.270 Just because culturally, that's what's been told to us. And that's what we, 00:45:18.290 --> 00:45:19.970 you know, go and project. 00:45:20.330 --> 00:45:23.310 So, but it's, you know, and we don't sometimes, sometimes we don't, 00:45:23.390 --> 00:45:26.110 we don't even think about it. It's not, not even, it's not conscious. 00:45:26.490 --> 00:45:32.190 So, no, well, but she fixed it. But she realized it and fixed it. So that's good. 00:45:32.210 --> 00:45:35.230 It sounds like she has a lot more self-awareness than J.K. 00:45:35.370 --> 00:45:40.770 Rowling. And I'm like, want to make this person, sorry, Ursula, let's help her. 00:45:41.890 --> 00:45:46.190 I know that she's no longer with us, but yeah. 00:45:46.350 --> 00:45:49.310 Maybe her family is like, make a buddy off of this. I don't know. 00:45:49.590 --> 00:45:51.070 They're good people. Who knows? 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:54.590 I'm excited to read this. I've been wanting another good fantasy book. 00:45:54.690 --> 00:45:58.830 And I think it's really cool that it's, you know, from the 60s, you know. 00:46:00.550 --> 00:46:06.050 And presumably, you won't read it half hour a time a week or two apart. 00:46:06.350 --> 00:46:10.090

And so it'll take you less than 298 days to read it. 00:46:10.430 --> 00:46:15.650 It's actually a relatively short book and a relatively quick read if you just 00:46:15.650 --> 00:46:16.970 pick it up and read it normally. 00:46:17.570 --> 00:46:20.930 I'll let you know if I feel like the ending is surprising. 00:46:21.750 --> 00:46:25.590 There you go. Let me know. Like, yeah. Yeah. 00:46:26.650 --> 00:46:31.390 And it wasn't just surprising. I mean, even as a teenager, I might have seen 00:46:31.390 --> 00:46:37.610 it coming, but it was sort of, it was still sort of a powerful ending, I thought. 00:46:37.930 --> 00:46:38.030 Yeah. 00:46:38.170 --> 00:46:44.470 But again, that's my teenage brain talking, a little less so rereading it, 00:46:44.630 --> 00:46:46.330 but, you know, whatever, you know. 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:47.360 Yeah. 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.720 Okay. Shall we take a break and then start? 00:46:53.220 --> 00:46:53.580 Sorry. 00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:56.560 No, no, no. You're good. You're good. Say hi. 00:46:57.240 --> 00:47:00.020 Okay. Ready? Ready? Ready for a break? 00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:00.620 Ready. 00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:01.500 Ready for a break. 00:47:01.740 --> 00:47:01.980 Yeah. 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.300 Okay. Here comes the break. And then when we come back, Emily, 00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:06.900 we'll let you pick a topic first. 00:47:07.080 --> 00:47:10.460 Oh, I don't have to. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff going on this last week. 00:47:10.600 --> 00:47:15.480 Okay. Yeah. If you go to the show topics list, you can pick some stuff or you can just pick. 00:47:15.660 --> 00:47:18.660 You know. Okay. I'll tell you. I already know. 00:47:18.700 --> 00:47:22.860 Yeah, because we got Minnesota. We got Greenland. We've got Venezuela. 00:47:23.180 --> 00:47:28.520 We've got Iran. We've got like, we got all kinds of stuff. We got all kinds of stuff. 00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:31.800 Where are my anti-cortisol pills? God's sakes. 00:47:32.780 --> 00:47:36.500 I'm going to let you guys know what's up. I'm going to be like, tell me what happened. 00:47:36.660 --> 00:47:41.780 I know kind of everything, but like someone dive deep because I could not this week. 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.040 Okay, here's the break. Back after this. 00:48:05.210 --> 00:48:10.390 Oh, God. It's the break we wind up with. Excellent. Thank you, Sam. Okay, great. 00:48:10.690 --> 00:48:17.610 Of course. It's beautiful. Okay, we are back. So, Emily, what have you chosen? 00:48:18.210 --> 00:48:20.830 I want to talk about Kristen's cinema. 00:48:22.050 --> 00:48:26.830 Oh, that fucking... Okay. Oh, that's... Okay. 00:48:27.110 --> 00:48:30.770 Well, there you go. You know, this is good, so we don't have to talk about something depressing. 00:48:31.270 --> 00:48:34.270 We can talk... Everything's depressing, even this. 00:48:34.270 --> 00:48:39.570 No, no, no, not this. Because, you know, at least we can shit on this fucking bitch, for God's sakes. 00:48:40.490 --> 00:48:44.110 I, you know, it is the, I must say, 00:48:44.750 --> 00:48:50.490 one of the things that, to this day, still, I always, when I think of cinema, 00:48:50.870 --> 00:48:57.530 that really, really, really pisses me off, to no end, is how she, 00:48:57.850 --> 00:49:03.930 just like a lot of her Republicans that have been, 00:49:04.270 --> 00:49:09.170 recent additions to the Senate and House, their main focus is getting fucking rich. 00:49:09.610 --> 00:49:17.170 OK, I mean, she came in with a net worth of bupkis into the Senate and left 00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:19.010 with tens of millions of dollars. 00:49:19.070 --> 00:49:22.970 And you're trying to fucking tell me that this was out of just, 00:49:23.230 --> 00:49:28.270 you know, not insider trading or not, you know, bullshit. 00:49:28.590 --> 00:49:34.250 OK, and so many of them have been doing this recently, especially in the G. 00:49:34.270 --> 00:49:40.410 Because, you know, AOC hasn't done that. You've seen her financial filings. 00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:45.070 I know that my representative, you know, over here, you know, 00:49:45.170 --> 00:49:51.590 that I sat beside her in coach many times flying, wasn't also doing that either, okay? 00:49:51.870 --> 00:49:59.430 But, yeah, but she, what, I mean, I saw the lawsuit and I'm going, what the fuck? 00:50:00.020 --> 00:50:07.140 Okay, fill us in the details. I know some of it. Let me read the article title. 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:17.480 The article title says, MDMA and steamy texts alleged as ex-senator sued over Trist with Bodyguard. 00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:20.440 What publication was that in? 00:50:21.240 --> 00:50:26.960 Well, it's in Raw Story, so that seems pretty right based on. 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:31.220 So Raw Story doesn't ever do their own reporting. They summarize other places 00:50:31.220 --> 00:50:32.680 and link to it. But you can find it there. 00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:40.840 But there was a lawsuit that claimed that I, and I know I, didn't I share this? 00:50:41.120 --> 00:50:44.660 I don't think I shared it under the news side. That's why, because I didn't 00:50:44.660 --> 00:50:46.480 think it was like really news. 00:50:46.700 --> 00:50:53.480 But it was like, they talked about that some, who was it that sued her over this? 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:58.580 His wife, and it was a controversial law in North Carolina. 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.480 The wife of the person she had the affair. So she got involved with, 00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:08.260 like, one of her bodyguards or something, and it was the bodyguard's wife, right, who's suing? 00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:09.260 Yes. 00:51:09.900 --> 00:51:11.080 Yes, that sounds right. 00:51:12.580 --> 00:51:18.920 North Carolina law allows a person to be held liable for malicious interference in a marriage. 00:51:20.060 --> 00:51:24.920 That's an interesting, I mean, it's controversial because like, yeah. 00:51:26.080 --> 00:51:32.440 Okay, so here, I found a story

because, I don't know, for some reason I didn't find a link on our Slack. 00:51:32.720 --> 00:51:39.780 But MDMA, the title, MDMA and Steenie Tex alleged as ex-senators sued over Tristwith Bodyguard. 00:51:47.240 --> 00:51:53.740 A former lawmaker was accused of sending sexual text messages using MDMA and 00:51:53.740 --> 00:51:59.580 having sex with her former bodyguard in a lawsuit filed against her for alienation of affection. 00:52:00.560 --> 00:52:05.000 Alienation of affection. I loved how that sounds. According to reports Thursday, 00:52:05.180 --> 00:52:07.520 the lawsuit was filed by Heather Amel, 00:52:07.780 --> 00:52:12.340 Matthew Amel's wife, who alleged in a lawsuit filed in North Carolina that Foreigner 00:52:12.340 --> 00:52:18.740 Senator Kirsten Sinema sent her husband photos of herself wrapped in a towel 00:52:18.740 --> 00:52:23.520 and recommended via signal messages that he bring MDMA on a work trip to guide 00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:27.060 him through a psychedelic experience that Daily Beast reported. 00:52:27.060 --> 00:52:33.540 The ex-bodyguard's wife also alleges Sinema was having sexual relations with 00:52:33.540 --> 00:52:34.560 other security members. 00:52:34.660 --> 00:52:38.440 So this was like some kind of security orgy that was going on. 00:52:38.680 --> 00:52:42.960 The alienation of affection lawsuit falls under a controversial North Carolina 00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:44.520 law that allows a person to be 00:52:44.520 --> 00:52:47.880 held liable for malicious interference in a marriage, the Beast reported. 00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:52.000 Heather also claimed in the allegations that Sinema told her husband she could 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.760 help him overcome his mental health challenges after his U.S. 00:52:55.860 --> 00:52:58.360 Army service. Yes, I can see how she was helping. 00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:05.090 Mental health challenges. Sinema served in the U.S. House of Representatives, blah, blah, blah. 00:53:05.370 --> 00:53:11.610 So anyway, yes, apparently she was, you know, having orgies and drug parties 00:53:11.610 --> 00:53:13.890 with her security staff. 00:53:17.210 --> 00:53:18.610 What a fucking idiot. 00:53:18.730 --> 00:53:22.270 Sounds like she should have been a Republican. I don't understand how the hell you wound up with her. 00:53:22.810 --> 00:53:24.030 She was getting there. 00:53:24.530 --> 00:53:30.570 Yeah. I mean, you know, but I'm confused. Am I confusing her? 00:53:30.650 --> 00:53:31.890 What's she up to anyway? 00:53:32.670 --> 00:53:33.110 What? 00:53:34.330 --> 00:53:39.370 I was thinking the same thing, but I think she was always advertised herself as bi. 00:53:39.430 --> 00:53:41.850 Oh, she was bi. Okay. All right. Okay. 00:53:42.390 --> 00:53:42.990 I think. 00:53:44.530 --> 00:53:49.970 But my first memory was, wait, wasn't she a lesbian? But I think she was bi. 00:53:50.470 --> 00:53:55.590 Now I don't know. But yeah, but that was. But you know what? 00:53:56.730 --> 00:54:00.410 while the details were salacious, honestly, I read it and I'm like, 00:54:00.510 --> 00:54:03.170 this is not shocking me in one bit. This is, you know, 00:54:04.490 --> 00:54:07.410 Not really surprised, especially who we're talking about. 00:54:08.190 --> 00:54:08.470 Yeah. 00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:13.410 Well, what's she been up to anyway? She's a lobbyist for like energy firms or something, right? 00:54:13.610 --> 00:54:16.850 I don't know. You got to do something after that failure. 00:54:17.290 --> 00:54:20.330 You know what? Something. Listen, let me see. What is she doing? 00:54:21.470 --> 00:54:25.510 I'm looking it up because usually these people wind up being partners in some 00:54:25.510 --> 00:54:29.910 damn law firm where they wind up getting paid millions of dollars or something. 00:54:30.070 --> 00:54:31.810 Just like career after elected office. 00:54:32.530 --> 00:54:37.050 Sinema joined Coinbase. Oh, crypto. Jeez. You know, fucking tracks. 00:54:37.270 --> 00:54:37.630 Oh, okay. 00:54:37.750 --> 00:54:41.870 Global Advisory Council to advocate for the cryptocurrency industry and help 00:54:41.870 --> 00:54:43.370 it coordinate with U.S. lawmakers. 00:54:43.590 --> 00:54:50.650 Gee, another shocking development is that she's peddling crypto. Okay. 00:54:51.250 --> 00:54:57.550 Wow. Can someone know what a proudest socialist is? Because she called herself that in 2004. 00:54:57.930 --> 00:54:59.190 What the fuck does that even mean? 00:54:59.310 --> 00:55:00.010 I don't know. 00:55:01.970 --> 00:55:05.230 It means she's a socialist, but she likes expensive stuff. 00:55:07.390 --> 00:55:11.210 Everybody, you get a Prada, you get a Prada, you get a Prada. 00:55:11.250 --> 00:55:18.290 I mean, that was the one thing I kept saying. Look, I had this dinner with some 00:55:18.290 --> 00:55:24.350 friends of mine, executives at a few different companies around here. 00:55:24.450 --> 00:55:28.970 And we were talking that we had a few of our wives and kids that they were talking about. 00:55:28.970 --> 00:55:32.650 you know they were all like talking like they were all these socialists but 00:55:32.650 --> 00:55:36.610 they were socialists and they are you know with their expensive watch and bag 00:55:36.610 --> 00:55:41.050 and shit or whatever and we're going what the fuck are you assholes talking 00:55:41.050 --> 00:55:46.530 about you guys have with Louis Vuitton bags and shit or whatever you're talking 00:55:46.530 --> 00:55:48.130 like socialists what are you, 00:55:49.350 --> 00:55:57.330 what is that bullshit yeah why why it's disgusting yeah yeah well although i. 00:55:57.330 --> 00:56:00.930 Love listening to the every outfit podcast it's one of my favorite and they 00:56:00.930 --> 00:56:05.170 uh talk fashion all the time but it's like something i i don't have or care 00:56:05.170 --> 00:56:09.750 about like i'm like i got this at the thrift store that is it that's where i'm going. 00:56:09.750 --> 00:56:13.610 You

could be a fashionista from shit from the from the thrift store let me tell 00:56:13.610 --> 00:56:16.770 you something it does not require money exactly. 00:56:16.770 --> 00:56:21.190 Yeah well i know and i love but i love my vogue magazines but i'm still never 00:56:21.190 --> 00:56:25.310 gonna be that person unfortunately i like just looking at it. 00:56:25.310 --> 00:56:28.190 No but my whole thing is these people that 00:56:28.190 --> 00:56:33.750 go and like oh i am a proto social listen this is fucking bullshit and and i 00:56:33.750 --> 00:56:37.170 mean i'm sorry every time that you saw her dressed up and you're saying listen 00:56:37.170 --> 00:56:41.710 this outfit cost how many thousands of dollars every fucking time you saw her 00:56:41.710 --> 00:56:47.910 because Don't give me this shit that you're the socialist defender or whatever the fuck. 00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:51.970 Every time I see you dress, it's costing like $5,000 for every outfit that you're 00:56:51.970 --> 00:56:53.890 wearing, including a purse. Give me a fucking break. 00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:56.490 No. And of course, now she's peddling crypto. 00:56:56.930 --> 00:56:59.530 But also, why would she ever say that she's a socialist? 00:56:59.530 --> 00:57:03.770 If you remember, if you remember when she was first senator, 00:57:04.590 --> 00:57:10.350 wasn't there a brief blip of like publicity or news articles over the fact that, 00:57:10.510 --> 00:57:13.030 you know, she was selling outfits on eBay or something? 00:57:13.250 --> 00:57:14.670 That's right. That's right. 00:57:15.210 --> 00:57:20.450 Like, worn once by Kyrsten Sinema, you can buy this for, like, $600 or whatever. 00:57:21.850 --> 00:57:26.310 Probably paid with campaign funds, actually. You know, I wouldn't be surprised. 00:57:26.650 --> 00:57:31.370 Those are the people that drive me fucking. Also, I'm sorry, 00:57:31.450 --> 00:57:37.230 but, like, wasn't she, isn't she, like, a, where, why would she ever say that she was a socialist? 00:57:37.430 --> 00:57:42.070 Am I, like, maybe I'm forgetting something because, like, even a Prada socialist, 00:57:42.450 --> 00:57:44.770 because isn't she just a horrible Democrat? 00:57:44.770 --> 00:57:47.270 But listen, listen, listen. 00:57:47.510 --> 00:57:53.750 So this was one of the things that came up after she was elected originally, 00:57:53.750 --> 00:57:57.950 because she campaigned as a lefty. 00:57:58.330 --> 00:58:03.330 And then as soon as she got into office, she started moving right quickly. 00:58:03.910 --> 00:58:09.330 And then immediately started figuring out the place where she could... 00:58:10.170 --> 00:58:13.930 I guess, you know, tying into what Yvonne started this conversation with, 00:58:14.270 --> 00:58:19.670 tying into the grift part of it, the way that she could leverage her position 00:58:19.670 --> 00:58:25.790 the most was to be right on the edge and the key vote for things. 00:58:25.790 --> 00:58:28.710 where she could she could then say like 00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:32.570 you need me and therefore you 00:58:32.570 --> 00:58:39.050 know you can you know and so she put herself her and mansion were the key votes 00:58:39.050 --> 00:58:45.390 that the democrats needed anything almost anything and so she put herself in 00:58:45.390 --> 00:58:51.210 the position where you know depending on who would do what for her, 00:58:51.510 --> 00:58:55.030 she might change what she was thinking in that key spot. 00:58:55.390 --> 00:58:59.150 Well, that's what you get from Arizona. No, that's Arizona. 00:58:59.150 --> 00:59:03.050 Oh, come on. We got Mark Kelly. He's not anywhere nearly as bad now as this. 00:59:03.050 --> 00:59:07.110 We love their freeways, though. That place is ridiculous. I can't drive. 00:59:07.250 --> 00:59:10.470 I don't like the roads there. That's my complaint about Arizona. 00:59:10.970 --> 00:59:13.550 I'll say, listen, I'll say one thing. I've only, I've been to Arizona, 00:59:13.550 --> 00:59:16.270 I think, only once or once. 00:59:16.410 --> 00:59:19.710 And I remember that I got in the car at the thermometer. I mean, 00:59:19.850 --> 00:59:23.590 I'm fine with heat, but I remember that it was 11 o'clock at night and it was 00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:25.790 over 100 degrees. And I'm like, oh, come on. 00:59:26.330 --> 00:59:28.550 Give me a break. OK, this is just ridiculous. 00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:35.190 I mean, I can go to a hot place or whatever. I just if you're like like I remember 00:59:35.190 --> 00:59:40.170 James and I went for spring training before I had gone this last November to Arizona. 00:59:40.510 --> 00:59:45.250 And, you know, it was it was Peoria area, you know, a Phoenix area. 00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:49.630 But I I was like guiding him. We had a rental car. 00:59:49.770 --> 00:59:50.750 Like, there's no way you can really 00:59:50.750 --> 00:59:55.250 get around there without having either taking a Waymo, taking a cab. 00:59:55.490 --> 01:00:00.650 Like, their transit sucks. And I said, okay, you're going to turn at the next block. It's coming up. 01:00:01.740 --> 01:00:04.420 It's coming up. It's still coming up. 01:00:04.580 --> 01:00:07.720 For many miles. So let me get this right. 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:13.680 You're blaming her turn into grift on the road network in Arizona. 01:00:14.580 --> 01:00:17.360 I'm saying that I like Mark Kelly, too. 01:00:17.740 --> 01:00:24.400 But the Arizona folks, they love their roads. They love roads. And I can't stand it. 01:00:25.580 --> 01:00:26.040 Okay. 01:00:26.420 --> 01:00:29.020 Separately, Kyrsten Sinema sucks. 01:00:29.860 --> 01:00:30.100 Yes. 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.640 Ruben Gallego. They're on the way up. Mark Kelly, yes. You know, 01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:36.440 they do have some good folks there. 01:00:37.720 --> 01:00:43.020 But Mark Kelly wanted more freeway. And I'm like, remind me to tell you never 01:00:43.020 --> 01:00:45.240 to run for president because I don't like that.

01:00:46.330 --> 01:00:53.890 So I'm glad he didn't become the vice presidential nominee is what I'm saying. He was up there. 01:00:55.410 --> 01:00:56.730 Well, I don't know. 01:00:56.990 --> 01:01:02.670 Okay. So, Emily, do you have another topic for your segment before we take a 01:01:02.670 --> 01:01:03.750 break and let Yvonne pick one? 01:01:03.790 --> 01:01:08.510 Well, wait, wait. No, we can own one and a break. We've got to pick. 01:01:09.290 --> 01:01:13.590 You know, we only went like a few minutes. Let's go. Let's pick one other topic. 01:01:14.670 --> 01:01:19.550 Okay. We usually take a break between who is picking, but, like, okay. 01:01:19.550 --> 01:01:20.330 Let's see. So. 01:01:20.710 --> 01:01:23.730 Unless we're explicitly doing a lightning round. We want to do a lightning round. 01:01:23.790 --> 01:01:26.750 Go ahead, anyone. Well, we went short on that one, so let's go. 01:01:27.030 --> 01:01:30.550 Yeah, that was short. It was all short. It was, like, 20 minutes. 01:01:30.730 --> 01:01:31.310 What's it? Yeah, go ahead. 01:01:31.470 --> 01:01:31.790 I know. 01:01:32.170 --> 01:01:33.010 15, 20 minutes. 01:01:33.250 --> 01:01:34.710 Anyway. Well, let's see. Next. 01:01:35.190 --> 01:01:40.550 Wait. No, no, no. I am wrong. I misread my notes. It's been more like eight to ten minutes. 01:01:40.550 --> 01:01:44.270 That's what I thought. What are you doing to me, Sam? You're driving. 01:01:45.350 --> 01:01:47.430 You know, math is not my strong point. 01:01:47.430 --> 01:01:53.070 But that's why we need that math as a service software application that you 01:01:53.070 --> 01:01:57.150 wanted me to develop and charge $50 a year. 01:01:57.470 --> 01:02:04.370 I shared a joke video from TikTok on the curmudgeon score of Slack of this guy who was like, 01:02:05.290 --> 01:02:09.950 He was setting up a service. It did have a free tier, but for full usage, 01:02:09.950 --> 01:02:14.070 it was $99 a month for a Celsius to Fahrenheit converter. 01:02:15.310 --> 01:02:16.450 $99 a month. 01:02:16.590 --> 01:02:17.390 But like hardened. 01:02:19.610 --> 01:02:22.850 And then unless you're an enterprise, then you have to call sales. 01:02:22.990 --> 01:02:29.030 Right. They have to call me. I'll charge. I'll charge. Man. And I'll charge. 01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:35.350 I only shared one video, but he produced a whole series of videos responding 01:02:35.350 --> 01:02:39.210 to people's comments on this and taking himself completely seriously. 01:02:39.310 --> 01:02:42.490 Obviously, it's a joke, but he was taking himself completely serious. 01:02:42.670 --> 01:02:45.250 I feel like you guys could do this without this. 01:02:47.410 --> 01:02:51.790 I'm like, do we really need to be this precise on our temperature conversions? 01:02:52.190 --> 01:02:54.630 Really? Is it really not necessary? 01:02:55.250 --> 01:03:00.170 Do I really need a whole data center in Arizona, you know, in order to crunch 01:03:00.170 --> 01:03:02.010 the numbers, you know, for this conversion? 01:03:02.890 --> 01:03:05.130 Here's my code. I was like, why do we need this? 01:03:05.350 --> 01:03:09.250 All right. 01:03:09.650 --> 01:03:11.730 Okay. Anyway, Yvonne, what's next? 01:03:11.850 --> 01:03:14.570 Look, let's talk about fucking Minnesota. Okay? 01:03:15.270 --> 01:03:16.610 Oh, we're Minnesota. 01:03:18.870 --> 01:03:22.270 Because, I know, because it sucks. 01:03:23.670 --> 01:03:29.350 And it seems like it's getting worse before it gets better too but okay so bring 01:03:29.350 --> 01:03:33.910 us up to speed there have been a lot of things happening you want me to bring us up to speed? 01:03:34.030 --> 01:03:37.530 You bring us up to speed because there's been so much shit going on. 01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:45.720 Okay, so let's start with this. You know, for the last year since Trump became 01:03:45.720 --> 01:03:49.260 president, it's been almost exactly a year. Three more days, it'll be a year. 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:58.000 And Trump has sort of, on the anti-immigration ICE stuff, he's sort of picked 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.600 one location to pick on at a time. You know, he did L.A. 01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:03.980 for a while. He did Chicago for a while. 01:04:04.340 --> 01:04:09.580 There was talk of several other places. But the most recent place that he's 01:04:09.580 --> 01:04:12.400 sort of surged is Minneapolis. 01:04:12.820 --> 01:04:20.680 And he's been sending many hundreds of ICE folks into Minneapolis to do raids 01:04:20.680 --> 01:04:23.340 all over the area. a Minneapolis-St. 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:27.960 Paul area, suburbs, et cetera, where they're just going around, 01:04:28.100 --> 01:04:32.700 they're doing their normal thing, going around often in unmarked cars, 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.580 wearing masks, et cetera, et cetera, 01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:42.800 going and basically finding brown people to harass, grabbing them, 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.460 asking for their papers, et cetera. 01:04:45.460 --> 01:04:50.820 in Minnesota specifically and this has happened in the other places too but 01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:54.740 people don't like this gee you think yeah, 01:04:56.290 --> 01:05:01.470 And not just the brown people being targeted, but also the white folks around 01:05:01.470 --> 01:05:03.410 them, too. Look, let me just say this. 01:05:03.490 --> 01:05:08.070 I had to live with this for a number of years in Puerto Rico specifically. 01:05:08.510 --> 01:05:16.690 And the one place where it was stupidly annoying was at the airport when you were taking a flight. 01:05:17.250 --> 01:05:20.750 Because we are inside the United States. We don't need to. 01:05:20.850 --> 01:05:25.050 We don't clearing immigration. However, at some point, the fucking CBP people 01:05:25.050 --> 01:05:30.230 decided to install some people to start asking everybody if you're a fucking U.S. citizen. 01:05:31.090 --> 01:05:36.490 And they started getting belligerent at one point if you didn't

answer, okay? 01:05:37.070 --> 01:05:45.890 Until one time many years ago, people sued, ACLU sued, and it went all the way to SCOTUS. 01:05:46.070 --> 01:05:51.870 And SCOTUS actually ruled against CBP and said, you know what? You can't do this. 01:05:52.670 --> 01:05:59.270 However, since the advent of Trump, it's happened to me more than one occasion 01:05:59.270 --> 01:06:02.790 that all of a sudden I've been, it hasn't happened recently, but it happened, 01:06:03.190 --> 01:06:07.490 where I'm boarding a flight to go to Miami and all of a sudden they're asking 01:06:07.490 --> 01:06:12.270 for people for their fucking papers on a domestic flight in the jetway. 01:06:12.870 --> 01:06:13.430 Wow. 01:06:14.050 --> 01:06:14.270 Yeah. 01:06:15.090 --> 01:06:23.910 So anyway, people have been organizing to basically do peaceful, 01:06:24.270 --> 01:06:26.190 nonviolent interference. 01:06:26.730 --> 01:06:30.490 So one of the common things is people... 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:37.480 So monitoring where ICE is going, sending out alerts on social media, 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:42.400 sending out alerts on various apps, and even things on the ground like blowing 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:47.500 whistles and stuff to basically warn people, ICE is coming, hide, 01:06:47.700 --> 01:06:50.640 get out of the way, do whatever you need to do, etc. 01:06:50.640 --> 01:06:55.960 One of the things that they have done in some places is sort of intentionally 01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:02.000 like create excess traffic on streets where ICE is trying to go. 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.840 I'm not going to say explicitly block them, although in some cases they have. 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:13.440 the particular situation a little bit more than a week ago is that this this 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:18.500 one woman who was there there are actually conflicting reports whether she was 01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:22.380 explicitly trying to do this or whether she was just leaving her house and was 01:07:22.380 --> 01:07:24.820 at that spot but i gotta be honest i've. 01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:28.420 Watched that video many times and she seemed that she was just trying to maneuver 01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:33.040 around there and she wasn't blocking the street let's be clear cars passed around her. 01:07:33.040 --> 01:07:35.140 She was waving people past Yeah. 01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:36.500 She was waving people past. 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:42.060 So, but anyway, she got in, you know, they were, they started telling her to 01:07:42.060 --> 01:07:43.900 get out of the way, to move, whatever. 01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:50.640 And as she was, I've seen the video too, as she was apparently trying to start 01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:52.860 to comply, they shot her. 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.560 Initially, the reports were that she was shot in the face. 01:07:56.980 --> 01:08:02.220 Earlier today, more detail came out. She was apparently shot twice in the chest, 01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:06.860 once in the arm, and perhaps a fourth shot grazing her in the head. 01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:11.560 But, and apparently, the initial reports were also, she was shot twice in the 01:08:11.560 --> 01:08:12.700 face, she was dead instantly. 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.780 No, apparently not. When the paramedics got there. 01:08:15.900 --> 01:08:16.120 No, she had a pulse. 01:08:16.380 --> 01:08:20.540 She still had a very weak pulse. They were unable to revive her. 01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:27.100 But, but yeah, so, and most likely the injuries would have been fatal no matter what. 01:08:27.100 --> 01:08:32.380 They were supposed to shoot to kill anyways So they fucked that up Sorry, I'm being rude. 01:08:33.150 --> 01:08:34.290 Yeah, I'm just no. 01:08:34.650 --> 01:08:38.770 No, that's that's that's curmudge's corner. Now you're being you're you're you're 01:08:38.770 --> 01:08:40.250 you're you're doing our show now. 01:08:40.510 --> 01:08:43.390 So, yeah, no, no. 01:08:43.850 --> 01:08:47.910 Yeah, they missed bastards. You know, they failed their training. 01:08:48.350 --> 01:08:52.130 I'm just sick of men saying that to me that like like guns all the time. 01:08:52.290 --> 01:08:54.810 Like, yeah, you're when you shoot, you shoot to kill. I'm like, why? 01:08:55.030 --> 01:08:58.830 Why don't you be good at like not shooting to kill? I'm like shooting someone 01:08:58.830 --> 01:09:02.870 in the leg where they can't go after you or something. 01:09:03.150 --> 01:09:05.410 But whatever, you know. 01:09:06.110 --> 01:09:08.010 That that thing. Can I be honest? 01:09:09.190 --> 01:09:13.150 The people that I hear that they talk like about that, about guns shoot to kill, 01:09:13.290 --> 01:09:16.230 are usually the people that are the least trained in actually using guns who 01:09:16.230 --> 01:09:17.590 have actually done any shooting. 01:09:18.810 --> 01:09:20.610 These are just the cowboy idiots. 01:09:20.770 --> 01:09:23.130 They're not good at it either. That's clear. 01:09:24.070 --> 01:09:28.830 So to continue bringing us back up to speed, her name was Renee Good, by the way. 01:09:30.130 --> 01:09:35.570 And, you know, she had just finished dropping off her six-year-old at school. 01:09:35.930 --> 01:09:42.170 She was with her wife. you know etc the wife was there with her when it happened 01:09:42.170 --> 01:09:48.790 but since then things have escalated further because obviously this. 01:09:48.790 --> 01:09:53.850 Situation wait wait but let's be clear they they went around that incident for 01:09:53.850 --> 01:09:58.210 they they have claimed that she ran over this guy they have claimed that she 01:09:58.210 --> 01:10:02.670 and that the guy was hit even though all videos show that that's not the case 01:10:02.670 --> 01:10:04.710 they had claimed that the guy was in the hospital. 01:10:04.930 --> 01:10:09.130 They actually published a fucking video narrated by some jackass. 01:10:09.290 --> 01:10:13.830 Just a complete fabrication of lies about everything

that happened in the incident. 01:10:14.450 --> 01:10:21.550 You know, and it's just, they have completely created this entire fabricated story. 01:10:21.730 --> 01:10:24.910 Somebody was, I think, in the Bulwark podcast, they were talking that these 01:10:24.910 --> 01:10:29.630 guys must have this entire, like, fill-in-the-blanks lie form where they have 01:10:29.630 --> 01:10:31.130 already all this shit ready. 01:10:31.350 --> 01:10:35.530 Just to put in the names of the new person, Oh, this is the lie that we're going to tell this time. 01:10:35.670 --> 01:10:41.030 Oh, yes. The guy was like bleeding internally and dying, hit by this person 01:10:41.030 --> 01:10:44.210 who was, depending on what it was, whether it's the illegal immigrant or the 01:10:44.210 --> 01:10:45.230 interferer or whatever. 01:10:45.410 --> 01:10:45.810 Blah, blah, blah. 01:10:45.850 --> 01:10:50.290 And it's just the same prefabricated bullshit story. Yes. They called her a 01:10:50.290 --> 01:10:51.510 domestic terrorist. Yes. 01:10:51.610 --> 01:10:51.810 Yes. 01:10:52.070 --> 01:10:56.150 And then as for her wife to be investigated for domestic terrorism, 01:10:56.430 --> 01:10:59.130 it's just the most preposterous fucking bullshit. 01:10:59.330 --> 01:11:04.230 Yeah. The whole damn thing. A number of federal prosecutors resigned because 01:11:04.230 --> 01:11:08.890 they were being ordered to investigate her and her wife for— 01:11:09.080 --> 01:11:15.780 over this incident at the same time that the feds locked out the local authorities 01:11:15.780 --> 01:11:17.700 from the investigation and the evidence. 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:25.240 And from all appearances, we're jumping straight to the conclusion that she 01:11:25.240 --> 01:11:28.940 was guilty, the officer was not, and we're not doing any sort of serious investigation. 01:11:29.260 --> 01:11:36.940 There have been some reports that the other ICE officers on the scene very quickly 01:11:36.940 --> 01:11:41.920 cleaned up the evidence and who the hell knows where it is right now, et cetera, et cetera. 01:11:42.380 --> 01:11:45.640 But here's the thing about this, and I'm a little bit alike, 01:11:46.100 --> 01:11:50.860 that Minnesota has been very timid in this investigation because clearly there 01:11:50.860 --> 01:11:57.240 is sufficient video evidence to have that guy charged. 01:11:57.700 --> 01:12:00.460 Okay, without any of the physical evidence. 01:12:00.460 --> 01:12:04.720 Without anything else. Without anything else. There is sufficient video evidence 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:11.900 to have that guy charged and arrested, okay, for that incident, period. 01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:16.020 But Yvonne, J.D. Vance says he has complete immunity. 01:12:16.280 --> 01:12:19.840 Yeah, what is it? Complete immunity now they call it? Is a new thing now? 01:12:19.900 --> 01:12:22.240 Now it's complete immunity. It's the new thing. 01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:23.520 I forget the exact word. 01:12:24.060 --> 01:12:26.600

It's like, you know, it's like new Coke or like new whatever. 01:12:26.740 --> 01:12:30.920 Now it's complete immunity, you know? The new brand, newly and improved, yes. 01:12:31.180 --> 01:12:34.580 What's complete immunity? Complete immunities. We can do whatever the fuck we 01:12:34.580 --> 01:12:36.240 want when we say we want to do it. Yes. 01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:43.240 The theory that has existed for cops for a long time is basically they do have 01:12:43.240 --> 01:12:46.820 immunity from things done in the course of their duties. 01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:52.980 And as this has gone through the courts, that is generally upheld in most situations, 01:12:52.980 --> 01:12:57.760 except when there's something extenuating and it's like, you know, 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.400 okay, they completely, they weren't doing what they were supposed to. 01:13:01.890 --> 01:13:06.550 Look, it's like in almost any situation that somebody that is doing their job 01:13:06.550 --> 01:13:13.650 and it's doing it according to, you know, the rules that exist for that job, 01:13:13.810 --> 01:13:17.790 that they are usually protected from a lawsuit or legal action. 01:13:17.950 --> 01:13:22.890 However, there is nothing in this incident that indicates that this guy was 01:13:22.890 --> 01:13:24.230 doing anything of the sort. 01:13:24.230 --> 01:13:30.870 Well, I mean, one of the things is they, you know, people have published the 01:13:30.870 --> 01:13:35.910 actual ICE guidelines for how to deal with vehicles and situations like this. 01:13:36.010 --> 01:13:39.550 And the guy violated every rule in ICE's own guidelines. 01:13:39.810 --> 01:13:44.850 Exactly. Exactly. Violated their own guidelines completely. So that's my point. 01:13:44.970 --> 01:13:47.530 There is nothing in there that the guy has done. 01:13:48.050 --> 01:13:51.010 But, you know, one of the media outlets, I forget which one, 01:13:51.130 --> 01:13:53.130 maybe it was the New York Times, maybe it was somebody else, 01:13:53.710 --> 01:14:00.970 dug up 14 other incidents of ICE or Border Patrol interacting with vehicles 01:14:00.970 --> 01:14:02.830 over the last few months. 01:14:03.350 --> 01:14:10.590 And this exact situation, absent the gunshots at the end, has replayed, 01:14:10.750 --> 01:14:14.030 well, even absent the person dying at the end. 01:14:14.030 --> 01:14:16.830 like there were something like 14 of 01:14:16.830 --> 01:14:19.770 these and i believe it was in a majority of 01:14:19.770 --> 01:14:22.570 them they actually did end up shooting into the car even though they're 01:14:22.570 --> 01:14:29.110 not supposed to it's just the people survived and you know and so this is a 01:14:29.110 --> 01:14:33.570 pattern of behavior regardless of what the guidelines are and it's becoming 01:14:33.570 --> 01:14:40.730 increasingly clear that even when the administration officially does have guidelines, 01:14:40.970 --> 01:14:44.350 the actual guidance to people on the street, 01:14:44.930 --> 01:14:46.890 is, oh, ignore all that shit. 01:14:47.150 --> 01:14:50.250 Just do what you need to do and be badasses. 01:14:51.410 --> 01:14:57.030 Go crack heads. Oh, and by the way, mandate to everybody, get as much video 01:14:57.030 --> 01:15:02.890 as you can because we want to be able to publicize this and make people scared 01:15:02.890 --> 01:15:03.850 and all that kind of stuff. 01:15:03.990 --> 01:15:09.350 And in fact, one of the issues going on with this one is the cop that did the cop, 01:15:09.610 --> 01:15:16.470 the ice person, they're not cops, who did this, was videoing on his phone with 01:15:16.470 --> 01:15:20.070 one hand while he was shooting her with the other, and. 01:15:20.940 --> 01:15:22.420 And and they. 01:15:22.420 --> 01:15:24.320 And they released the video. 01:15:24.320 --> 01:15:26.000 Thinking it would make them look good, 01:15:31.340 --> 01:15:34.520 they're so stupid but there's also stupider 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:37.440 people out there that are like sitting there 01:15:37.440 --> 01:15:41.000 repeating this nonsense over and over my friend who 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:44.060 works in the same like democratic policy and public 01:15:44.060 --> 01:15:47.200 spaces as me she was like 01:15:47.200 --> 01:15:50.660 my dad was like oh she was a domestic terrorist and 01:15:50.660 --> 01:15:54.680 i showed him videos and then he was like i don't know why she was shot like 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:59.720 literally just showing someone like the truth actually like helped that person 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.880 in that situation they're not seeing the same things that we're seeing that's 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:07.900 what's really scary and they're not having those experiences like we are And it's all. 01:16:07.900 --> 01:16:11.100 They hear is J.D. Vance saying domestic terrorist. 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.860 Yeah. Listen, Emily, they live in a completely alternate reality. 01:16:15.320 --> 01:16:19.460 You know, it is everything that they look at is just, you know, 01:16:19.660 --> 01:16:22.160 it's crazy. You know, it's like every once in a while. 01:16:22.340 --> 01:16:26.900 I don't I don't try to do this very often. I have this four up thing on my TV 01:16:26.900 --> 01:16:29.860 that I that I have here in my office where they've got like, 01:16:29.980 --> 01:16:31.860 say, the different news feeds. 01:16:32.040 --> 01:16:35.960 And I'm usually watching the business feeds. And so they've got the Fox Business 01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:41.840 feed versus the CNBC feed versus the Bloomberg feed and some other channel that 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.420 is nonsense. I don't even understand. 01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:46.780 There's this Cheddar News channel. It's complete nonsense. 01:16:47.140 --> 01:16:50.080 It makes it that is the most useless channel. 01:16:50.740 --> 01:16:54.040 I don't even know how to consider that news. But anyway, you know what? 01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:58.300 It's good for a bar

at night when you can't. 01:16:58.540 --> 01:16:59.080 Yeah. 01:16:59.710 --> 01:17:04.410 That's what it's good for. If I'm hammered after quite a few drinks, 01:17:04.630 --> 01:17:06.010 I'm like, oh, look at this bullshit. 01:17:06.290 --> 01:17:14.150 Oh, look, maybe, maybe, maybe I could get like this dog crypto shit from Saudi Arabia. 01:17:14.150 --> 01:17:20.150 And if I buy like five bonds and exchange them for Argentinian currency, 01:17:20.490 --> 01:17:22.810 maybe I could create this synthetic. 01:17:23.510 --> 01:17:28.730 Oh, Jesus Christ. It's like anyway. But no, the thing is, Fox News, 01:17:28.870 --> 01:17:31.210 what they're talking about, you see on the other channels, hey, 01:17:31.370 --> 01:17:36.130 Jay Powell's being, you know, forced into this. Jay Powell's being arrested over there. 01:17:36.550 --> 01:17:43.470 The immigrants are invading the North Carolina border today with, 01:17:43.570 --> 01:17:47.250 you know, and you're like, what? Which, which, what, what invasion? 01:17:47.530 --> 01:17:49.310 Which one are they talking about now? 01:17:49.770 --> 01:17:57.610 Yeah, it's nuts. I think what's even easier is that the ICE officers now, 01:17:57.850 --> 01:18:01.250 like three or four videos that I've seen of people, 01:18:01.530 --> 01:18:06.090 of the public recording the ICE officers, where the ICE officer is sitting there 01:18:06.090 --> 01:18:09.510 being like, have you learned nothing from the past few days? 01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:12.410 As if they think that is going to... 01:18:13.300 --> 01:18:19.540 you know, deter people. I mean, it will. I mean, yeah, but I think this is actually. 01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:25.880 This is actually key. The ICE folks and the administration for the matter, 01:18:26.020 --> 01:18:31.420 for that matter, think the lesson that you should take out of that is protesters 01:18:31.420 --> 01:18:37.360 should go hide at home and stop doing this because their opposition to ICE is the terrorism. 01:18:38.100 --> 01:18:44.000 Whereas polling has shown The general public responds in exactly the other way 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:48.380 that, you know, by like a 75-25 sort of margin that, 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:55.260 no, the lesson here is that, you know, to use a term from years ago, 01:18:55.540 --> 01:19:01.000 I mean, we got a bunch of jackbooted thugs over here that are running rampant 01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:06.180 and are trampling on people's rights, left, right, and center. 01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:11.720 And, you know, these folks who are, I'm not the first one to point this out, 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.520 but these same folks who are going, don't tread on me and keep the government 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:19.840 out of everything a few years ago are now saying comply or die. 01:19:20.080 --> 01:19:20.280 Comply! 01:19:21.020 --> 01:19:21.700 Mm-hmm. 01:19:22.310 --> 01:19:22.730 Yeah. 01:19:22.870 --> 01:19:26.450 You know, and so you were getting at these for me. 01:19:27.010 --> 01:19:27.490 Yeah. 01:19:27.950 --> 01:19:34.390 You were you were getting at these folks, you know, warning the public, 01:19:34.550 --> 01:19:37.670 basically, don't do like she did or you're going to get shot, 01:19:37.690 --> 01:19:42.810 too. But generally speaking, over the last week, there's been escalation. 01:19:42.950 --> 01:19:45.230 The protesters have gotten more mad. 01:19:45.390 --> 01:19:47.910 The protesters are coming out in bigger numbers. 01:19:48.150 --> 01:19:50.090 There have been—. 01:19:50.090 --> 01:19:54.310 They're sending a thousand more fucking ICE agents to Minnesota, 01:19:54.310 --> 01:19:56.530 these assholes, for God's sakes. 01:19:57.230 --> 01:20:01.050 Outnumbering the local police forces by almost 10 to 1 at this point. 01:20:01.570 --> 01:20:07.070 And basically, you know, the governor and others have been warning— And they've 01:20:07.070 --> 01:20:11.870 been getting some flack for this, basically saying, look, don't take the bait, 01:20:12.090 --> 01:20:15.070 don't get violent, you know, don't give them what they want. 01:20:15.250 --> 01:20:21.450 Because the administration is telegraphing almost completely obviously that 01:20:21.450 --> 01:20:28.510 what they are hoping for here is to set up a situation where there is a violent 01:20:28.510 --> 01:20:32.930 confrontation and not just their folks shooting some innocent white woman. 01:20:32.930 --> 01:20:40.550 But a confrontation where protesters do something that they can use as an excuse to further 01:20:40.790 --> 01:20:46.530 crackdown. Trump is talking about the Insurrection Act and nationalizing the 01:20:46.530 --> 01:20:54.990 Guard and bringing in regular army and stuff to basically go take over these cities. 01:20:55.170 --> 01:20:59.730 Just a little while before we started recording, I saw that there was a report 01:20:59.730 --> 01:21:07.190 that Trump has instigated a federal investigation of Walls and several other 01:21:07.190 --> 01:21:09.650 Minnesota politicians to... 01:21:09.650 --> 01:21:12.730 Well, but he did that to news. He's done that to everybody. 01:21:12.830 --> 01:21:16.990 No, no, no. Right now, it's part of his playbook, but that's the point. 01:21:17.150 --> 01:21:24.950 The point is he's using all the aspects of federal power to harass anyone who goes against But. 01:21:24.950 --> 01:21:28.790 Here is the thing, Sam, but here's the thing. This is the opportunity, 01:21:29.050 --> 01:21:31.370 Sam, that we have been forgetting, okay? 01:21:31.370 --> 01:21:37.410 Because as all these people are getting investigated, look, if you want to steal 01:21:37.410 --> 01:21:45.730 a lot of money and bribe somebody big time all the way, this is the perfect opportunity. 01:21:45.990 --> 01:21:50.030 And by the way, you will get out of jail. Listen, we should be figuring out 01:21:50.030 --> 01:21:53.170 a way to steal millions of dollars at this point. 01:21:53.170 --> 01:21:57.830 Because one thing that's

guaranteed is that I will go, if I steal $50 million 01:21:57.830 --> 01:22:04.870 right now, and I take out $5 million to put into MAGA whatever thing that I 01:22:04.870 --> 01:22:07.950 need to put in, I will be pardoned. 01:22:08.450 --> 01:22:13.050 Yes. No problem. And by some reports, like, some people are paying $5 million. 01:22:13.110 --> 01:22:17.430 Some people are paying less and still getting, you know, their- Two and a half. Yeah. 01:22:17.450 --> 01:22:20.930 They pardoned the fucking- Let me tell you, Emily. They pardoned today. 01:22:20.930 --> 01:22:24.590 the fucking ex-governor of Puerto Rico who was on, 01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:30.820 Goddamn recorded soliciting a fucking bribe from this Venezuelan banker, 01:22:31.080 --> 01:22:36.380 okay, for her goddamn campaign in exchange for her terminating an investigation 01:22:36.380 --> 01:22:44.080 and firing the guy that was the head of the fucking office of financial institutions 01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:47.720 in Puerto Rico to fire that guy because he's investigating the bank that was 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:49.000 a Ponzi scheme and a fraud. 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:53.680 And, oh, by the way, hey, this guy donated $2.5 million to Trump, 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:57.060 and all of a sudden he's pardoned and she's pardoned, and they're all out of jail today. 01:22:58.440 --> 01:23:01.760 It's crazy. There's no integrity. 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:06.540 I remember my friend Cindy was running for county auditor, and she was running 01:23:06.540 --> 01:23:09.920 on this, like, bringing integrity because she has so much of it. 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.660 And I was like, no, none of these fucking people care about integrity. 01:23:14.020 --> 01:23:14.700 Care about integrity. 01:23:15.020 --> 01:23:19.520 They don't do that, unfortunately. can I bring it back to something really quick 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:21.180 did you talk about oh no well. 01:23:21.180 --> 01:23:22.340 Sorry we we are. 01:23:22.340 --> 01:23:22.880 Very good. 01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:23.800 On our tangents. 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:25.460 Yes okay how. 01:23:25.460 --> 01:23:26.220 Far are we off. 01:23:26.220 --> 01:23:31.700 This is kind of an old story but I like it I always it always comes to mind 01:23:31.700 --> 01:23:37.840 like I mean it was only January 2025 but did you talk about the Seattle man 01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:43.300 that came to a Sunnyside City Council meeting which Sunnyside is in you didn't 01:23:43.300 --> 01:23:45.700 see that So this was in 2025, 01:23:45.820 --> 01:23:47.920 in January, so early 2025, 01:23:48.320 --> 01:23:52.180 and this man, claiming to be a bounty hunter, made threatening comments at a 01:23:52.180 --> 01:23:55.020 press conference—it was actually at a city council meeting, I understood, 01:23:55.220 --> 01:23:57.400 or as I saw it—saying that a U.S. 01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:01.420 immigration and custom enforcement plans to deputize and pay private civilian 01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:04.900 forces to detain undocumented immigrants—. 01:24:06.270 --> 01:24:11.050 He said, you can put a price on every human being. Every human is worth a dollar amount. 01:24:11.330 --> 01:24:15.830 He identified himself as Martin Alvarado before being hushed by the city manager 01:24:15.830 --> 01:24:16.990 and residents and attendants. 01:24:17.130 --> 01:24:21.410 He was basically saying, like, they're going to pay us all of this money to 01:24:21.410 --> 01:24:24.830 put people away. What are you going to pay us to protect yourself? 01:24:24.850 --> 01:24:26.130 Because this is what we're doing. 01:24:26.270 --> 01:24:30.650 It was the most frightening thing that I've ever heard happening in Washington state. 01:24:30.850 --> 01:24:34.470 And what was even more frightening is that the city council members that were 01:24:34.470 --> 01:24:39.450 hearing, I mean, he was somebody posted he was warning us, you know, like he was. 01:24:39.630 --> 01:24:42.470 And the council was like, you need to get out of here. You need to get out. 01:24:42.530 --> 01:24:43.390 You're scaring everybody. 01:24:43.610 --> 01:24:47.550 And it was, you know, a predominantly Hispanic council there in the Sunnyside 01:24:47.550 --> 01:24:50.330 area. And it was just, you know, they didn't want to hear anything about it. 01:24:50.390 --> 01:24:51.470 They just wanted him out of there. 01:24:51.550 --> 01:24:56.050 But he was literally explaining what is happening right now and what was happening 01:24:56.050 --> 01:24:57.470 and was going to happen very quickly. 01:24:57.950 --> 01:25:00.810 Well, well, here's the thing. I don't know. No, it's like, I mean, 01:25:00.990 --> 01:25:05.970 the thing is, listen, right now, can you really tell the difference if you wound 01:25:05.970 --> 01:25:10.030 up with a whole bunch of scammers dressed as fucking ICE agents that went around 01:25:10.030 --> 01:25:12.270 and started grabbing people and then holding them for ransom? 01:25:12.630 --> 01:25:19.310 Well, we have had a couple of verified incidents already where people impersonated 01:25:19.310 --> 01:25:22.910 ICE and did things like that. 01:25:23.190 --> 01:25:28.550 You know, most of them is actual ICE. ICE is acting badly on their own. 01:25:29.190 --> 01:25:32.610 Why can't I go and be ice and just keep letting people go? I mean, 01:25:32.750 --> 01:25:34.950 like, no, man, that's not what was said. 01:25:35.250 --> 01:25:37.510 Like, actually, you got the wrong person. 01:25:37.870 --> 01:25:41.230 That's what I would do. Pretend to be ice and, like, derail their whole act. 01:25:42.700 --> 01:25:47.100 I might get shot, though, so maybe not good. I don't know. Maybe some of the 01:25:47.100 --> 01:25:50.220 men can do it. Maybe I can't sell it. I don't think I could. 01:25:51.220 --> 01:25:54.760 I wanted to say this real quick. How are you going to stop us from coming through? 01:25:54.780 --> 01:25:56.780 Because we don't have to worry about warrants.

01:25:56.820 --> 01:26:00.880 We don't have to really follow too many of the laws. And if we're going to be 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:04.580 deputized by ICE, we can pretty much do anything we want, he said. 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:09.460 $1,000 per illegal is a pretty good price just to do things that you kind of 01:26:09.460 --> 01:26:14.020 enjoy how or what are you guys going to do to stop that what are you going to 01:26:14.020 --> 01:26:17.480 do how what are you going to pay us more are you going to pay us two thousand 01:26:17.480 --> 01:26:18.820 dollars just to leave them alone, 01:26:19.480 --> 01:26:22.640 it's crazy sorry i just had to read that part it. 01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:25.460 Ain't but it is crazy the whole thing is crazy we are. 01:26:25.460 --> 01:26:26.400 Situation right. 01:26:26.400 --> 01:26:31.240 Now that is just beyond nuts in terms of you've got an entire, 01:26:32.500 --> 01:26:37.600 They created this entire parallel military force right now. 01:26:38.320 --> 01:26:41.880 They had all these issues with, well, we want to send the National Guard, 01:26:41.980 --> 01:26:46.160 and all the court orders stopped us from sending the National Guard and the 01:26:46.160 --> 01:26:50.180 military to places, and we got turned away. So how do we scare the cities? 01:26:50.380 --> 01:26:57.620 Well, now we've got this army of fucking Gestapo people that are called ICE 01:26:57.620 --> 01:27:02.960 that we are sending and flooding cities with just to scare the living shit out of people. 01:27:03.420 --> 01:27:06.120 Well, and that's the thing with the Insurrection Act as well. 01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:08.100 If he... Not if he, Vaughn. 01:27:08.500 --> 01:27:13.100 If Donald Trump initiates the Insurrection Act... 01:27:13.100 --> 01:27:17.140 Listen, if I right now have the right to fucking invoke the Insurrection Act, 01:27:17.300 --> 01:27:20.300 I'm sending it to Washington, D.C., and I'm grabbing this asshole, 01:27:20.360 --> 01:27:24.740 you know, from his bed and fucking dragging him out on the street and fucking, 01:27:24.740 --> 01:27:27.720 like, putting him in Fort Leavenworth. without a fucking trial. 01:27:28.480 --> 01:27:30.080 Then we'll discuss it later. 01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:34.940 The thing is, if he invokes the Insurrection Act, then that is a completely 01:27:34.940 --> 01:27:39.480 different authority for nationalizing the National Guard, and he can also do 01:27:39.480 --> 01:27:43.160 regular military as well that has not gone through court yet. 01:27:43.340 --> 01:27:47.440 Now, obviously, and they're already talking about that, if he does that, 01:27:47.580 --> 01:27:51.120 like, people are talking about the scenario, like, why doesn't Walls bring out 01:27:51.120 --> 01:27:55.680 the National Guard under his command in order to help defend against dice? 01:27:55.680 --> 01:27:59.460 Because the federal government can nationalize the National Guard that he's fucking, okay? 01:27:59.580 --> 01:28:03.900 So

it's not really a great solution at this point. 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:09.760 Right. And yes, so we enter a whole 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:14.840 different universe if Trump actually initializes this insurrection act. 01:28:14.860 --> 01:28:15.540 What could he do? 01:28:15.900 --> 01:28:19.580 Now, obviously it would instantly go to court again on that as well. 01:28:19.980 --> 01:28:25.340 Well, right now already, one thing, they've got a court order right now that happened this evening. 01:28:25.340 --> 01:28:32.800 related to ICE that we had posted on the Slack specifically where a federal 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.540 judge restricted immigration agents' actions, 01:28:36.090 --> 01:28:40.030 Towards protesters, specifically, you know, restricting a whole bunch of the 01:28:40.030 --> 01:28:44.710 shit that they had been doing where they had been using force against peaceful 01:28:44.710 --> 01:28:48.710 protesters, where they had been like, just because people were peaceably protesting, 01:28:49.170 --> 01:28:51.730 they had been tear gassing them, attacking them, doing whatever. 01:28:52.390 --> 01:28:56.470 And there was a judge order today that they could not be using those broad dispersal 01:28:56.470 --> 01:29:00.150 tools, that they couldn't be like, you know, doing this thing on the road where 01:29:00.150 --> 01:29:03.050 they were like, like what they did to Renee Good. But basically, 01:29:03.270 --> 01:29:06.350 that was the order tonight. Of course, I'm wondering if it's going to be challenged. 01:29:06.350 --> 01:29:11.290 I'm sure it will be appealed. I mean, if we follow the pattern of all of these 01:29:11.290 --> 01:29:16.690 other court things that have happened, whether or not there's an order in effect 01:29:16.690 --> 01:29:20.430 will go back and forth as it works its way up the courts. 01:29:20.830 --> 01:29:24.370 And then eventually, most of these will get to SCOTUS. 01:29:26.370 --> 01:29:30.850 And eight times out of ten, they're siding with Trump. 01:29:30.850 --> 01:29:34.110 Here is the one thing that's happening right now. 01:29:34.630 --> 01:29:43.710 This entire thing has gone from a nuisance into something that is hated by the 01:29:43.710 --> 01:29:45.190 majority of Americans, okay? 01:29:45.410 --> 01:29:51.790 It is supported by a very, you know, in terms of who says this is good right 01:29:51.790 --> 01:29:55.050 now, the polling has this down to like 25%. 01:29:55.050 --> 01:29:55.770 Okay? 01:29:55.770 --> 01:30:01.550 And I said 75, 25 earlier, but to be clear, it's actually more like 56, 01:30:01.770 --> 01:30:04.070 25, and then a bunch of people in the middle who always say, 01:30:04.150 --> 01:30:06.250 I don't know, I don't know what's going on. 01:30:06.590 --> 01:30:09.770 No, but those people always don't know anything, whatever. 01:30:09.930 --> 01:30:12.250 They got their head up their ass their entire life. So, you know, 01:30:12.410 --> 01:30:16.230 it won't happen. But you've got a situation where... 01:30:16.860 --> 01:30:24.120 I shared that chart on the Slack of what has happened to Trump's disapproval this last two weeks. 01:30:24.480 --> 01:30:32.020 It has skyrocketed. Like, I've never seen such a surge in a brief amount of time. 01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:35.460 People are angry, okay? People are pissed. 01:30:36.020 --> 01:30:40.000 There are people that I've ever heard of basically calling these guys the Gestapo. 01:30:40.340 --> 01:30:47.820 People just disapproving of this en masse. And so The pressure on This kind 01:30:47.820 --> 01:30:53.880 of shit continuing You know is ratcheting up Significantly across the board I know that, 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:59.460 One thing that could be done And some people started discussing is We gotta 01:30:59.460 --> 01:31:06.100 cut the fucking funding off this thing Okay The money has to be This shit where 01:31:06.100 --> 01:31:11.740 all this money Got given to ICE This money needs to be cut As soon as possible Yeah. 01:31:12.440 --> 01:31:18.160 Well, and here's the thing of this, you know, there, you are definitely hearing 01:31:18.160 --> 01:31:22.520 a few Republicans wavering on this now in the Congress. 01:31:23.820 --> 01:31:29.820 The question is, you know, is it enough? And can, you know, now Democrats can, 01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:33.040 the one point of leverage they have, even if they don't get any Republicans, 01:31:33.340 --> 01:31:36.720 is they could force another government shutdown. 01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:40.000 Yeah. But it sounds like leadership doesn't want to, 01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:46.960 you know, and that and unless you get a whole bunch of Republicans also willing 01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.800 to go along, that's pretty much the only thing that congressional Democrats could do. 01:31:53.340 --> 01:31:59.680 Now, there are, you know, on a few other issues, some Republicans in some other 01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:04.700 areas, like, look, there was a Republican senator, I forget which one, 01:32:05.160 --> 01:32:09.560 who made some comments about, like, I expect a serious investigation of goods 01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:13.120 killing, and they better have something real. 01:32:13.120 --> 01:32:17.760 and then there are a few others who said the same thing about the investigation 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:26.800 into the fed there are republicans starting to splinter off but as usual there's not they are a whole. 01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:29.380 Bunch of fucking pussies. 01:32:29.380 --> 01:32:40.000 I'm sorry they have no fucking sign to stand up to any of that what were. 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.440 You saying I said her ball sacks Well, they're ball socks. 01:32:44.500 --> 01:32:45.500 There you go. 01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.120 Pussies are strong. Ball socks are not. 01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:51.600 That's fair. That is very fair. 01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:52.740 It's not offensive. 01:32:54.210 --> 01:32:59.290 Um, so no, even on like the Venezuela war power

resolution, there were, 01:32:59.290 --> 01:33:03.610 there were like a bunch of Republicans who, who actually voted on a procedural 01:33:03.610 --> 01:33:07.830 thing and then they backed off because Donald Trump called them and pressured 01:33:07.830 --> 01:33:08.870 them and they were like, ah, 01:33:09.430 --> 01:33:11.670 you know, and so that, that didn't go anywhere. 01:33:11.790 --> 01:33:14.890 And I think this is the pattern you have on a lot of things. 01:33:15.050 --> 01:33:21.370 You just don't, to really do anything, you need a whole bunch of Republicans 01:33:21.370 --> 01:33:26.850 to defect and we still aren't there, even though there are cracks growing. 01:33:28.070 --> 01:33:30.950 You know, the cholesterol is not working fast enough. 01:33:31.050 --> 01:33:36.470 Did you see, I saw some rumor today that apparently Trump had a stroke. 01:33:37.050 --> 01:33:37.810 Oh, God. 01:33:38.450 --> 01:33:44.350 We've been hearing that rumor of multiple strokes over the course of the whole 01:33:44.350 --> 01:33:46.970 last year. Like, this comes up every month or so. 01:33:48.010 --> 01:33:50.430 I mean, he's not normal. It's not. 01:33:50.570 --> 01:33:55.050 He's not doing well. He is clearly not doing well in all kinds of different ways. 01:33:55.070 --> 01:33:59.470 He had a fucking half stroke, a heart attack, something, anything. 01:34:00.050 --> 01:34:08.050 I mean, it's just, everybody in that party is just so scared of him, okay, to do anything. 01:34:08.370 --> 01:34:12.490 They just are so, none of them will stand up to him. 01:34:12.790 --> 01:34:20.330 And look, look at anybody that's stood up to him so far has gotten their political 01:34:20.330 --> 01:34:22.150 career put in a shredder. 01:34:23.010 --> 01:34:25.130 They have been burned completely. 01:34:25.650 --> 01:34:28.030 MTG seems to be doing pretty good now. 01:34:29.010 --> 01:34:32.270 I'm seeing their political career. What is MTG even doing? 01:34:32.330 --> 01:34:37.050 You say MTG is doing pretty well, but she's out of a job for the moment. I mean, yeah. 01:34:37.230 --> 01:34:40.630 Well, yeah. I mean, yes. But I was just saying, like, there's, yeah. Yeah. 01:34:41.630 --> 01:34:45.550 I guess what's so frustrating about this whole situation is not even that, 01:34:45.550 --> 01:34:49.530 like, the Republicans can't stand up to him. 01:34:49.630 --> 01:34:53.890 It's also that, like, you already said this earlier today, that two prosecutors, 01:34:53.890 --> 01:34:57.970 like, quit their job or resigned because they didn't want to, you know, investigate. 01:34:57.970 --> 01:35:02.570 And it's like, I'm kind of sorry-sickening, and maybe this is just me not really 01:35:02.570 --> 01:35:07.590 understanding, but hearing that Tim Walz is not going to fight and just is going to leave after. 01:35:07.650 --> 01:35:11.310 I know he's gone through a lot as a governor. Like there's been a lot that happened 01:35:11.310 --> 01:35:17.330 in Minnesota from the shooting of the legislators to to everything in that in 01:35:17.330 --> 01:35:20.110 that state, you know, and he's gone through a lot. 01:35:20.210 --> 01:35:23.630 But like to resign, to not fight back, like let them. 01:35:23.930 --> 01:35:27.950 Well, he's not resigning. He just announced he's not running for reelection. 01:35:28.290 --> 01:35:29.510 No, but that's me. 01:35:29.730 --> 01:35:34.550 That is like he. Yes. But it does look like it. 01:35:34.810 --> 01:35:41.290 I mean, the initial impression is that he did so because of these sort of thing. 01:35:41.550 --> 01:35:42.670 Like the families. 01:35:42.950 --> 01:35:48.690 Yeah. It was the nonsense Somalian fraud thing where the people actually committing 01:35:48.690 --> 01:35:50.470 fraud were not actually Somali. 01:35:50.570 --> 01:35:53.990 There were people committing fraud and there was an investigation already going 01:35:53.990 --> 01:35:55.270 on and it was being worked on. 01:35:55.390 --> 01:36:00.410 But like, you know, it was trumped up by the administration, pun intended. 01:36:02.170 --> 01:36:08.670 and they were using it as leverage against all of the Democrats in Minnesota 01:36:08.670 --> 01:36:13.650 when, you know, that's not really what was going on and it was whatever. 01:36:14.050 --> 01:36:17.150 Like, as usual, it's misrepresented. But... 01:36:17.150 --> 01:36:19.850 People that are stealing millions, we're pardoning those people. 01:36:20.230 --> 01:36:26.090 Yes, of course. But also, Wall's, I mean, his stated reason is, 01:36:26.210 --> 01:36:29.930 look, I have to concentrate on, you know, Minnesota's under attack. 01:36:30.590 --> 01:36:32.290 I have to concentrate on this stuff. 01:36:33.230 --> 01:36:39.290 And by the way, I do understand that reasoning right now, given the situation that Minnesota is in. 01:36:39.990 --> 01:36:43.950 With all these investigations and all of this stuff, trying to actually do a 01:36:43.950 --> 01:36:48.990 campaign at the same time, it's kind of very crazy. 01:36:49.270 --> 01:36:53.350 So I do give him credit that, look, if you're going to focus on something, 01:36:53.590 --> 01:36:58.210 Minnesota, against this assault against the state, which is a federal assault 01:36:58.210 --> 01:37:03.130 against the state, it's very difficult to also be campaigning for an election as well. 01:37:04.050 --> 01:37:09.530 and you know what at least it also and the assault against you personally with all these frivolous. 01:37:09.530 --> 01:37:10.610 Investigations and stuff. 01:37:10.610 --> 01:37:13.570 But it deflects fire away from him is the one thing because 01:37:13.570 --> 01:37:16.210 you can wind up okay whoever is going 01:37:16.210 --> 01:37:21.250 to run as a democrat you know he can be taking the fire for that while the other 01:37:21.250 --> 01:37:25.290 person is running a campaign to make sure that the democrats win the state so 01:37:25.290 --> 01:37:30.770 I think that in terms of his motivations for doing

this I think they do make 01:37:30.770 --> 01:37:34.350 sense but But right now falls into that. 01:37:34.530 --> 01:37:38.870 I feel bad for him. But also no one should be quitting their job or just resigning 01:37:38.870 --> 01:37:42.310 is what he's OK. He can do it if he has a plan. 01:37:42.870 --> 01:37:50.730 OK, so I know that Sam gets gets gets gets crazy when when I when I talk about my condo association. 01:37:50.950 --> 01:37:56.490 But about a year ago, OK, listen, you know, listen, I you know, 01:37:56.750 --> 01:37:58.510 you let me tell you something. 01:37:59.110 --> 01:38:02.630 Listen, a whole bunch of people started making up a whole bunch of accusations 01:38:02.630 --> 01:38:06.810 about me, about me stealing money from the place that I was like, 01:38:06.910 --> 01:38:11.310 I took construction funds, that I took bribe, that I, blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:38:11.630 --> 01:38:15.490 And this was like when I was sick with demarticulitis, my wife was, 01:38:15.650 --> 01:38:19.130 I just had surgery, and I've got all this work, and I'm like, 01:38:19.190 --> 01:38:20.270 look, I got to focus on myself. 01:38:20.410 --> 01:38:24.530 I can't, like, be, like, trying to run this place and, like, 01:38:24.610 --> 01:38:25.830 with all these people, and I quit. 01:38:26.070 --> 01:38:30.210 But here's what's happened in the interim. The people that were accusing me 01:38:30.210 --> 01:38:35.250 of this right now, basically, it's the usual. They have been... 01:38:36.200 --> 01:38:38.720 They've been doing anything that they said that they're doing. 01:38:39.400 --> 01:38:40.560 They're the ones that are doing. 01:38:40.980 --> 01:38:46.100 And like right now, basically, but what it gave me that time to rest gave me 01:38:46.100 --> 01:38:52.220 the time to figure out how to mount a proper counterattack in order to expose 01:38:52.220 --> 01:38:53.480 everything that they had been doing. 01:38:53.480 --> 01:39:00.000 And so I think in terms of having seen how this works and how sometimes you 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:07.020 wind up in a situation where, look, I can't, tactically, it's not a good attempt to stay there. 01:39:07.180 --> 01:39:10.320 I don't think tactically was a good thing to just stay there. 01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:14.920 And it maybe risks the state, you know, being lost. Okay. 01:39:15.240 --> 01:39:19.000 It's better for him to say, look, I'll step aside right now. 01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:22.040 They've got enough time. We can get somebody to run. 01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:26.460 And we've got enough time to rectify the situation. I think that makes sense. 01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:29.700 But I think that the one thing is that Tim, they need to get more aggressive. 01:39:30.300 --> 01:39:33.300 And he just started yesterday than he had been now. 01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.540 Because one thing that I give credit to Pritzker and Newsom, 01:39:37.060 --> 01:39:38.620 when they were doing this to them, 01:39:39.580 --> 01:39:47.580 especially Pritzker. Pritzker was very, very vocal and strident against what 01:39:47.580 --> 01:39:48.760 was being done in Chicago. 01:39:49.620 --> 01:39:53.200 Tim has been distracted by all these hacky-shades or whatever. 01:39:53.500 --> 01:39:57.980 He hasn't been strident in defending his state against this. 01:39:58.100 --> 01:40:01.720 He needs to step up his game in this right now. 01:40:01.900 --> 01:40:05.540 He is on his back foot right now, and he needs to step up his game. 01:40:06.180 --> 01:40:11.380 Yeah. I think about it. You were talking about the prosecutors, though, like, yes. 01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:15.700 And as somebody who left public office to do other things, I think that are 01:40:15.700 --> 01:40:16.740 actually more effective. 01:40:16.820 --> 01:40:19.880 I guess I can say that. Yes, that's right. 01:40:20.140 --> 01:40:25.580 And I but it's it's the paramount, you know, executives that left to it's like 01:40:25.580 --> 01:40:27.500 for for being upset by that. 01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:31.260 It's it's like, come on, you have the money standing, you know, go and fight. 01:40:31.400 --> 01:40:34.660 And actually, that's where the real levers of power are those people that are 01:40:34.660 --> 01:40:35.860 sitting in those executive seats. 01:40:36.040 --> 01:40:43.140 And if you leave from those positions, you're actually just throwing in the towel for some things. 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:48.620 There's always a debate in some of these situations where, you know, 01:40:48.940 --> 01:40:52.480 especially people like prosecutors, things like that, or for that matter, 01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:57.160 military folks, you are being ordered to do something you think is wrong, 01:40:57.380 --> 01:40:59.140 illegal, unethical, whatever. 01:40:59.420 --> 01:41:00.800 They're not leaving you a lot of choices. 01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:09.340 Well, the question is, do you do you resign in protest or do you not do it and make them fire you? 01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:13.200 You know, either way, you're not going to stay there in the end. 01:41:13.200 --> 01:41:18.460 You know, now they're one of the things that was said over and over by people 01:41:18.460 --> 01:41:22.600 in the first Trump administration is the reason we're staying. 01:41:22.820 --> 01:41:25.420 And people would say this privately off the record, et cetera. 01:41:25.780 --> 01:41:31.160 They said the reason we're staying is we can mitigate the damage by staying. 01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:36.140 We can stop some of his worst impulses. And we gave him shit. 01:41:36.240 --> 01:41:41.820 By the way, we said we said shit about them. And now we realize. 01:41:42.550 --> 01:41:46.850 that, you know what? They were right. They did. 01:41:47.130 --> 01:41:55.610 Yeah. And that's what's different about this Trump second term is none of those folks are allowed here. 01:41:55.990 --> 01:42:02.590 If you have the slightest whiff of saying no or not just jumping and saying

01:42:02.590 --> 01:42:07.410 yes, sir, and moving as quick as possible, you're out of there very quickly. 01:42:07.730 --> 01:42:11.410 Hey, Sam, let me ask you a question. Where's Tulsi? Anybody heard from her? 01:42:13.090 --> 01:42:16.710 Uh she's been very quiet no but 01:42:16.710 --> 01:42:19.570 there was something she was 01:42:19.570 --> 01:42:25.450 in the news for a few weeks back let me see if i can find it but but no mostly 01:42:25.450 --> 01:42:31.710 she's been missing mostly oh the latest news article i see eight days ago from 01:42:31.710 --> 01:42:38.050 the wall street journal tulsi gabbard sidelined from venezuela planning how there you go there. 01:42:38.050 --> 01:42:40.770 You go oh yeah there you go perfect beautiful. 01:42:40.770 --> 01:42:46.070 U.s spy chief Gabbard excluded from Maduro plan over past views. 01:42:46.230 --> 01:42:49.230 Tulsi Gabbard booted from Venezuela plans. 01:42:49.890 --> 01:42:54.570 Age-joking, DNI stands for do not invite, etc. 01:42:57.750 --> 01:42:59.390 Good work, Tulsi. There you go. 01:42:59.570 --> 01:43:02.610 That's all the recent news about Tulsi is how she's been. 01:43:02.790 --> 01:43:05.110 You fucking sold your soul, and this is what it's gotten you. 01:43:05.230 --> 01:43:06.830 Congratulations. Great job. 01:43:09.710 --> 01:43:15.550 Speaking of Venezuela, when somebody mentioned, you know, just because someone 01:43:15.550 --> 01:43:19.450 gives you a peace prize doesn't mean that you got a Nobel Peace Prize. 01:43:19.490 --> 01:43:22.670 Oh, my God. Jesus fucking Christ. I mean, you know. 01:43:22.870 --> 01:43:25.070 Can we just talk about, like, how dumb. 01:43:25.270 --> 01:43:28.070 Sam, Sam, look. Look, I got an award over here. 01:43:28.530 --> 01:43:28.990 Yeah. 01:43:29.230 --> 01:43:36.190 You want the award? I have. Look, it's a medal. I got this medal. There. Here we go. 01:43:37.010 --> 01:43:40.790 Let me get the medal. Check it out. Look. Here. 01:43:42.010 --> 01:43:43.310 Look, I got this medal. 01:43:43.530 --> 01:43:45.630 Mail it over. I'll put it on my resume immediately. 01:43:45.710 --> 01:43:50.770 Hewlett Packard, 2003, most valuable player. Okay? I mean, 01:43:53.710 --> 01:43:59.190 Sam, you could be the Hewlett Packard. 2003 Most Valuable Player. Look at that. 01:43:59.190 --> 01:44:05.250 It's a metal. Mail it over. I'm going to put it on my resume immediately. I will claim it. 01:44:06.270 --> 01:44:10.250 Old blue HP color. It's made us some metal, 01:44:11.360 --> 01:44:14.960 Kind of thing. I don't think it's gold. 01:44:15.140 --> 01:44:18.400 Do you think that Maria Karina Machado is an idiot? 01:44:18.740 --> 01:44:23.040 Sorry, I keep just being like, why did you think Trump would treat you any differently 01:44:23.040 --> 01:44:24.900 throughout this process at the end? 01:44:25.080 --> 01:44:30.140 No, I think that she, no, no, no. I think what she did today was basically what 01:44:30.140 --> 01:44:33.500 she decided is, look, I got

to play the book, okay? 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:37.900 Which the book is, look, the Swiss arrived with a Rolex watch. 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:41.680 Apple showed up with a gold orb. okay 01:44:41.680 --> 01:44:45.220 and i'm like well fuck here by 01:44:45.220 --> 01:44:51.260 the way she had it framed with this thing that said presented the trump and 01:44:51.260 --> 01:44:57.320 this old thing inside this case and the thing and the metal i mean so she said 01:44:57.320 --> 01:45:01.180 look this is the playbook apparently where everybody gets what they want so 01:45:01.180 --> 01:45:04.740 i i gotta step up my game well. 01:45:04.740 --> 01:45:09.400 Look here here's the thing she's a woman and he's not gonna do that like he's 01:45:09.400 --> 01:45:11.100 not going to give or this awful. 01:45:11.100 --> 01:45:16.720 She's a woman and she's no she doesn't mean she has to not pass the double D test, 01:45:17.400 --> 01:45:18.620 for Trump. Okay. 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:23.700 And she just continued to like metaphorically suck his dick more. So I'm like. 01:45:25.020 --> 01:45:28.000 But the fundamental problem here though, 01:45:28.300 --> 01:45:34.440 is not that like she played pretty much the only place she had left, but the thing was, 01:45:34.580 --> 01:45:40.780 and the reporting on this is basically when there were conversations with her 01:45:40.780 --> 01:45:45.020 earlier in the year with the administration, 01:45:45.020 --> 01:45:53.360 her responses were things about democracy and human rights and doing better for the Venezuelans. 01:45:53.360 --> 01:45:58.180 And we need to respect the results of the election and all that kind of stuff. 01:45:58.420 --> 01:45:59.120 And the question is there. 01:45:59.220 --> 01:46:02.820 Where's my money? Where's my goal? Where's my money? Where's my medal? 01:46:03.060 --> 01:46:07.860 Well, exactly. But here's, and Donald Trump apparently right off the bat, 01:46:08.020 --> 01:46:11.780 like was upset that she got the NOBA Peace Prize and not him. 01:46:11.980 --> 01:46:15.660 And he almost wrote her off at that point anyway. 01:46:15.860 --> 01:46:21.200 But also, very importantly here, he is 100% transactional. 01:46:21.320 --> 01:46:25.680 When they had back channel conversations with the VP, with Maduro's VP, 01:46:26.060 --> 01:46:31.120 she apparently was very open to, we will talk to you about oil. 01:46:31.260 --> 01:46:35.360 We will talk to you about this we will we will be open to doing what you want 01:46:35.360 --> 01:46:37.200 and oh by the way democracy. 01:46:37.200 --> 01:46:40.400 Bullshit i don't give a shit about that it's probably well. 01:46:40.400 --> 01:46:41.760 And also wait. 01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:46.680 Elections democracy fuck you i don't even want an election here the hell. 01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:51.220 Do i want election over there also apparently not to leave this out one of the 01:46:51.220 --> 01:46:55.120 points of contention when when the trump administration, 01:46:55.660 --> 01:47:00.900 was talking to her as the nobel peace prize winner earlier in the year and saying 01:47:00.900 --> 01:47:02.000 what they wanted her to do. 01:47:02.240 --> 01:47:07.400 They wanted her to enter into negotiations with the Maduro government to come 01:47:07.400 --> 01:47:09.120 to an end, you know, whatever. 01:47:09.420 --> 01:47:12.660 And basically, she stood on principle and said, he's illegitimate, 01:47:12.780 --> 01:47:15.480 he's a dictator, we're not going to negotiate with him. 01:47:15.620 --> 01:47:19.460 And the Trump folks said, well, then you're just an obstruction and we don't need to deal with you. 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:27.160 Great beautiful well i don't know look he gave her he gave him the medal and 01:47:27.160 --> 01:47:31.760 i don't know look i know that the did you see the transaction where apparently 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:36.460 they gave us 500 million dollars of oil but apparently the money instead of 01:47:36.460 --> 01:47:39.460 going to the u.s treasury went to a bank account in qatar, 01:47:40.400 --> 01:47:44.920 yes well which is normally where of course the u.s government always wants their money. 01:47:46.340 --> 01:47:51.680 People have pointed out this pattern with all kinds of things venezuela is just 01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:54.400 the latest example, the ballroom is another. There's another, 01:47:54.660 --> 01:47:55.600 there's several others. 01:47:56.060 --> 01:48:01.180 Basically, Donald Trump is making these side deals all over the place that involve 01:48:01.180 --> 01:48:08.500 money coming into accounts that he controls independent of what Congress has authority over. 01:48:08.940 --> 01:48:11.720 Which, by the way, of course, is illegal under the Constitution, 01:48:12.020 --> 01:48:13.680 but who the hell cares about that anymore? 01:48:14.580 --> 01:48:16.080 Like, you know, like. 01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:24.360 You cannot be okay with, I mean, that's what I'm saying. somebody have some fucking balls. 01:48:27.080 --> 01:48:31.520 Actually, wait, I'm sorry. You just explained to me the balls are weak, okay? 01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:37.280 They need to have a fucking real pussy and show up over there instead of balls. 01:48:37.700 --> 01:48:40.460 This is the fucking problem that we've got right now. 01:48:40.480 --> 01:48:43.580 Have some fucking pussy. Have some fucking... 01:48:43.580 --> 01:48:46.680 Yes! Damn it! That's what we need! 01:48:46.820 --> 01:48:47.580 You still want the ball now. 01:48:47.580 --> 01:48:51.180 I don't think I think I can get away with making that the title of the episode. 01:48:51.380 --> 01:48:59.160 Let's be clear. The ball sacks are not great. The balls are good. And the pussy. 01:48:59.960 --> 01:49:06.780 But the balls are weak. You hit the balls and we fall over in two seconds. 01:49:07.080 --> 01:49:08.680 Where are your ovaries? Where are your balls? 01:49:09.260 --> 01:49:09.840 Exactly. 01:49:11.770 --> 01:49:17.830 But isn't you

know and i think it's also crazy that they're letting the former 01:49:17.830 --> 01:49:23.210 vice president lead and she's basically in with maduro was not doing anything 01:49:23.210 --> 01:49:28.990 differently so like well no the the key the key thing no she is doing something 01:49:28.990 --> 01:49:31.730 very crucially different okay she. 01:49:31.730 --> 01:49:35.670 Is willing to talk to donald trump and make the deals with him. 01:49:35.670 --> 01:49:36.670 Oh yeah she's. 01:49:36.670 --> 01:49:38.010 Willing to deal She's been willing. 01:49:38.010 --> 01:49:38.410 To deal. 01:49:38.510 --> 01:49:43.010 She's been willing and dealing. She actually did free some political prisoners. 01:49:43.410 --> 01:49:46.370 Okay. All right. But other than that, not much change. 01:49:46.730 --> 01:49:50.150 One thing that I had, you know, I have a lot of friends. 01:49:50.490 --> 01:49:53.650 Look, my boss is Venezuelan. Okay. They're Venezuela and diaspora. 01:49:53.990 --> 01:49:58.770 Okay. And that's just my boss. I have a lot of friends out here that are Venezuela and diaspora. 01:49:58.870 --> 01:50:02.030 And I spoke to them about this. Look, the one problem right now, 01:50:02.150 --> 01:50:07.010 the situation is even with Maduro gone, the reality is that nothing really has 01:50:07.010 --> 01:50:11.730 changed in terms of the political situation nothing really has changed because 01:50:11.730 --> 01:50:13.230 they did not come in with a plan, 01:50:14.110 --> 01:50:21.870 this whole thing is honestly as far as I can tell this whole thing has been 01:50:21.870 --> 01:50:26.330 so far a distraction from the Epstein files that's it nothing else. 01:50:26.330 --> 01:50:31.830 I will add to that you mentioned the 500 million or whatever it is I think the 01:50:31.830 --> 01:50:36.230 reality here is that well maybe Rubio wanted something more. 01:50:36.370 --> 01:50:39.670 But as far as Trump is concerned, mission accomplished. 01:50:39.970 --> 01:50:44.050 As long as he can get some random money coming into accounts that he controls, 01:50:44.330 --> 01:50:45.830 he's done what he wants to. 01:50:45.910 --> 01:50:52.290 He doesn't care about in one little tiny bit what the situation on the ground is in Venezuela. 01:50:53.030 --> 01:50:58.970 Well, there was one other thing that they wanted. They did want to be able to more easily deport, 01:50:59.630 --> 01:51:03.370 because they ended in temporary protected status, they wanted to more easily 01:51:03.370 --> 01:51:08.090 deport the $150,000 people with TPS that we had over here. Okay, 01:51:08.210 --> 01:51:09.890 so you want it to be able to do that as well. 01:51:10.390 --> 01:51:14.590 And the other thing is, like I told you before, transactional again, 01:51:14.790 --> 01:51:16.430 the $500 million that came in. 01:51:17.910 --> 01:51:24.290 The Venezuelan diaspora, a lot of them talk to Trump regularly because they 01:51:24.290 --> 01:51:29.890 are the biggest contingent of theirs is in Doral, Florida. 01:51:30.450 --> 01:51:34.530 Doral is where he has that country club that's just a little bit south, 01:51:34.710 --> 01:51:39.190 like here, Bob Marlano being a little bit north, that he spends a lot of time at, okay? 01:51:39.410 --> 01:51:44.170 Where he's had the G7 and whatever and all this shit. Those people are members. 01:51:44.350 --> 01:51:47.950 They have money. And they have been talking to him about this, 01:51:48.150 --> 01:51:49.510 about getting rid of Maduro. 01:51:49.690 --> 01:51:53.870 And a lot of them were pissed because he was in a temporary protected status. 01:51:54.250 --> 01:52:00.190 So this whole thing about they all hated Maduro was a lot to appease these guys, 01:52:00.910 --> 01:52:04.910 okay, that give him money. And they promised him money. 01:52:05.190 --> 01:52:07.230 Somehow, he's already gotten $500 million. 01:52:07.790 --> 01:52:13.630 They keep promising all this other oil riches. and he figures he can get money somehow out of this. And, 01:52:14.980 --> 01:52:19.260 You know, this is all, again, like you said, transactional. Boom. 01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.340 They wanted him out. I get him out. I'm going to get money somehow. 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:25.960 I already got $500 million. I'm going to get a few more billions somehow out of it. 01:52:26.420 --> 01:52:30.880 Yeah, exactly. And like Rubio wants more stuff. Rubio cares about coming off Cuba. 01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:34.260 Rubio wanted democracy. Seriously. I don't believe it. 01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:40.300 Or, you know, as with everything else and everybody else who works with Trump, 01:52:40.980 --> 01:52:46.160 you know, So Rubio is not going to get the things he wants. 01:52:46.320 --> 01:52:48.940 He's going to get stabbed in the back and get screwed in the end. 01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:54.680 He may get a little bit of things here or there, but he isn't. 01:52:55.440 --> 01:53:02.600 All of these people delude themselves into thinking that they can manipulate the situation. 01:53:04.400 --> 01:53:11.060 Take advantage of poor, delusional, senile Trump and get what you want out of 01:53:11.060 --> 01:53:13.260 it. Some of them are better at it than others. 01:53:13.420 --> 01:53:17.240 I think Miller is better at it than Rubio, as an example. 01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:21.480 Miller is definitely, I mean, well, I mean, Jesus Christ. The guy's a vampire, for God's sakes. 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:24.820 I'm sure he's, like, fucking, like, sucking his blood every other day, 01:53:24.860 --> 01:53:27.680 which is part of, like, why the hell he gets the shit that he wants. 01:53:28.540 --> 01:53:31.000 Good Lord. It looks like an anal polyp. 01:53:31.410 --> 01:53:32.850 That's what we know. 01:53:35.390 --> 01:53:35.890 Okay. 01:53:36.150 --> 01:53:36.330 I can't. 01:53:36.330 --> 01:53:39.490 Okay. Not being able to say it, we have to talk about it all the time. 01:53:39.870 --> 01:53:41.490 Cannot disagree. 01:53:41.750 -->

01:53:46.450 We are waiting for South Park to do an episode where he is an anal polyp. 01:53:46.750 --> 01:53:48.550 That sounds wonderful. 01:53:48.930 --> 01:53:51.730 We are suggesting that South Park, if they ever hear this, please. 01:53:52.630 --> 01:53:59.190 Well, given that our first question went eight minutes, and now we have gone one hour. 01:53:59.530 --> 01:54:02.850 Okay. All right. almost on the second one. Are we going to take a short break 01:54:02.850 --> 01:54:04.750 and we're going to try to end this pretty soon. 01:54:04.770 --> 01:54:08.070 I guess? I was wondering if we should just wrap it up. 01:54:08.650 --> 01:54:10.130 Maybe we should just wrap it up. 01:54:10.650 --> 01:54:15.770 If you have anything else to talk about other than wrapping it up, 01:54:15.890 --> 01:54:18.510 I will take a break and then we will come back and we can do that. 01:54:19.770 --> 01:54:22.710 Do you have anything else? No, no, no, no. We can wrap it up. 01:54:22.890 --> 01:54:28.210 If anything, we can just talk about... I'm bummed out because I feel like I 01:54:28.210 --> 01:54:35.630 don't get to know Yvonne enough you know I mean I get to see Sam a little bit more often so I feel like, 01:54:36.520 --> 01:54:41.140 What should we talk about now that I'm not just talking to you over? 01:54:41.220 --> 01:54:45.240 No, no, no. Listen, you'll get the right. I said I'm going to pop up to one 01:54:45.240 --> 01:54:48.500 of the meetups. I just got to figure out my schedule, okay? 01:54:48.940 --> 01:54:51.900 Like, next month is bad. I'm going to have to be in Puerto Rico again. 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:55.640 I'm going next week, and I'm going to have to be that week. But I'm going to 01:54:55.640 --> 01:54:56.700 come up to one of the meetups. 01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:57.240 Okay? 01:54:57.320 --> 01:54:58.260 So I'll play out. 01:54:58.540 --> 01:55:03.560 It's a summer one, like, in our hottest month of the year. Let's try to get you in July. 01:55:04.140 --> 01:55:07.860 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'll look at the calendar whenever it pops up. 01:55:08.240 --> 01:55:12.800 It's got to be, you know, whatever I got to, I got an opening on the calendar 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:15.900 right now. I thought about maybe February and sucking up the cold. 01:55:16.400 --> 01:55:19.860 Yvonne is talking about the meetups for the Snohomish Podcast Network, 01:55:20.100 --> 01:55:24.380 which both this podcast and Emily's Umsur are members of. 01:55:25.580 --> 01:55:27.940 Okay, well, by the way, my wife doesn't want to go to Seattle. 01:55:27.940 --> 01:55:29.600 Check out the home network and all the other podcasts. 01:55:29.640 --> 01:55:34.680 She is part of a group that meets regularly that is in Seattle. 01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:36.640 She's actually been to Seattle a couple of times. 01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:42.580 Well, not Seattle. She's been nearby. No, she did fly to Seattle. Yeah. 01:55:43.280 --> 01:55:45.160 It's closer to us than Seattle. 01:55:45.700 --> 01:55:52.400 Yeah. No, but the thing is that they went through this retreat and banged down in... 01:55:52.870 --> 01:55:55.810 Near Oregon, basically, on the coast. 01:55:56.050 --> 01:55:57.630 Vancouver? Oh, okay. 01:55:58.290 --> 01:56:03.190 Yeah, so, well, we were supposed to be there last summer to go to Vancouver, 01:56:03.210 --> 01:56:05.890 but my son freaked out on the plane and he couldn't get on the plane. 01:56:06.370 --> 01:56:07.730 That's another story. Okay. 01:56:08.690 --> 01:56:11.310 But, I don't know, at some point we'll figure it out. By summer, 01:56:11.410 --> 01:56:17.650 I'm sure we'll be there because my wife is talking about, at least not that I come up by July. 01:56:18.430 --> 01:56:18.810 Okay. 01:56:19.170 --> 01:56:19.950 I'm excited. 01:56:20.930 --> 01:56:21.450 All right. 01:56:22.230 --> 01:56:26.910 Okay. So this time around, just to, we hit Venezuela. 01:56:27.650 --> 01:56:31.670 We didn't talk about the January 6th anniversary. We didn't talk about Jack Smith. 01:56:32.030 --> 01:56:35.710 We talked about Minnesota. We have not talked about Greenland. 01:56:35.950 --> 01:56:37.610 We have not talked about Iran. 01:56:37.910 --> 01:56:42.590 We have not, I meant, we mentioned in passing the investigation of Powell. 01:56:43.070 --> 01:56:45.750 The longest, the longest podcast in history. 01:56:46.290 --> 01:56:51.970 I'm just listing the things that we didn't get to, but just to show how busy this last week was. 01:56:51.970 --> 01:56:55.630 we didn't talk about like interest rates and 01:56:55.630 --> 01:56:59.410 ai and blah blah blah we we 01:56:59.410 --> 01:57:02.530 we kind of talked about pardons a little bit but 01:57:02.530 --> 01:57:07.450 you know look there's just the the rate at which things are happening is once 01:57:07.450 --> 01:57:13.550 again seeming to accelerate and it feels like you know who who was it what what's 01:57:13.550 --> 01:57:19.710 the famous quote about like that there there are some weeks that nothing happens 01:57:19.710 --> 01:57:21.630 and there's some i don't know, 01:57:22.290 --> 01:57:28.710 There's a stupid quote that's very good about like how sometimes you have very slow periods of times. 01:57:28.890 --> 01:57:32.910 When we did this in the Obama administration, when we did this podcast during 01:57:32.910 --> 01:57:36.130 the Obama administration, you could find some episodes that are pretty short. 01:57:36.230 --> 01:57:40.030 You could find we were like, ah, it's a boring week. Nothing happened. 01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:42.680 You know, I mean. 01:57:43.240 --> 01:57:44.060 Boring weeks. 01:57:44.440 --> 01:57:46.460 Yes. So do I. 01:57:48.120 --> 01:57:53.900 Anyway, things are being crazy right now. And there are a lot of places that could blow up. 01:57:54.460 --> 01:57:59.800 You know, is Trump about to attack Iran? 01:58:00.200 --> 01:58:05.760 Is he about to attack Minnesota more greatly? Is he going to do

more crazy stuff in Venezuela? 01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:16.460 Or Cuba. Yes. Or, you know, he mentioned like a half dozen countries in the 01:58:16.460 --> 01:58:18.540 last two weeks. So, you know, whatever. 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:22.760 You know what, with what you were just saying, I was about to ask this question, 01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:28.340 like, during the Obama administration, was less happening or were we just not 01:58:28.340 --> 01:58:29.600 talking about some of the things? 01:58:29.600 --> 01:58:35.280 because one thing I'm getting frustrated with is Democrats and people that were 01:58:35.280 --> 01:58:37.940 Obama supporters starting to... 01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:42.460 call out trump especially about regarding venezuela and 01:58:42.460 --> 01:58:45.280 say well obama did this and obama did 01:58:45.280 --> 01:58:49.380 that like this idea that we're justifying donald trump or trying to find some 01:58:49.380 --> 01:58:55.040 reason and i just i need to say that out loud like i mean one these are not 01:58:55.040 --> 01:58:58.960 the same people and stop trying to wrap your head around donald trump or make 01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:05.060 justifications there are none so if you are you know comparing comparing a president that. 01:59:05.060 --> 01:59:09.700 Was trying to do something where his considerations were national security, 01:59:10.060 --> 01:59:12.100 the security of people providing food. 01:59:12.280 --> 01:59:17.340 These were not selfish considerations versus a guy with presidents. 01:59:17.480 --> 01:59:21.960 There was lots of things that we criticized Obama on at the time, 01:59:21.980 --> 01:59:26.740 but the nature of those things was entirely different. 01:59:27.080 --> 01:59:31.500 It was even when he did something we disagreed with, 01:59:31.500 --> 01:59:35.060 you could feel like okay he's he 01:59:35.060 --> 01:59:40.740 may be doing something we disagree with and we think is wrong but his he has 01:59:40.740 --> 01:59:45.760 a good motivation he's trying to get a good result and he's doing it wrong or 01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:49.900 but and at least he's thinking about it he's thinking about it he was a deep 01:59:49.900 --> 01:59:52.640 thinker you could tell all this kind of stuff they're. 01:59:52.640 --> 01:59:55.080 Not selfish considerations is my. 01:59:55.080 --> 01:59:56.040 Point everything. 01:59:56.040 --> 02:00:00.220 That trump does is only about him. 02:00:00.220 --> 02:00:01.900 Right that's. 02:00:01.900 --> 02:00:08.280 It there is nobody else he doesn't care about the world about america about his family doesn't care. 02:00:08.280 --> 02:00:08.800 About him. 02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:11.860 He doesn't care about his kids son of a bitch. 02:00:11.860 --> 02:00:17.740 Anybody and and and we as democrats have never been shy about dragging somebody 02:00:17.740 --> 02:00:22.900 democrat or whatever that we just don't agree with we're like yeah that's a bad move and we're 02:00:23.080 --> 02:00:28.660

like immune to it and that's why i just cannot understand why there are people 02:00:28.660 --> 02:00:30.940 that are trying to like because. 02:00:30.940 --> 02:00:34.480 Well this is this is the same thing as we. 02:00:34.480 --> 02:00:39.260 Live in a world where we don't value listen people like obama, 02:00:39.770 --> 02:00:47.510 And I fall into this category where we just do the hard work. 02:00:47.510 --> 02:00:54.250 We're not out there just trying to get credit for doing the hard work of keeping things together. 02:00:54.450 --> 02:00:58.370 The hard work that it took to get the Affordable Care Act passed. 02:00:59.270 --> 02:01:03.570 People criticize it, shit on it. It's not national health care. It's not a one. 02:01:03.830 --> 02:01:08.850 Listen, so many people, tens of millions of people benefited from that. 02:01:08.850 --> 02:01:14.350 And everybody, so many shit on it Because, well, it's not universal health, 02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:23.260 instead of seeing how hard it was to get that and how many people's lives improved, okay? 02:01:23.480 --> 02:01:26.780 Because it's not the perfect solution. It sucks. 02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:33.380 He's a fucking, you know, neoliberal asshole, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:37.220 I'm not sick of those people because it's so many, because they, 02:01:37.400 --> 02:01:44.680 and then they don't go and are taking this president that basically couldn't 02:01:44.680 --> 02:01:48.380 give a flying fuck about the lives of anybody. 02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:52.680 You weren't just posting, Sam, about this fucking measles outbreak now in your 02:01:52.680 --> 02:01:53.800 fucking county, for God's sake. 02:01:53.900 --> 02:01:57.800 This motherfucker is bringing back diseases we had eradicated. 02:01:58.340 --> 02:02:04.460 He's making people hungry. He has killed millions of kids in Africa. 02:02:04.720 --> 02:02:08.480 He doesn't give a fuck about anybody. 02:02:08.680 --> 02:02:11.820 And you know what? These people are all, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 02:02:11.900 --> 02:02:13.280 motherfucker. Fuck you. 02:02:13.500 --> 02:02:18.760 No, the purity politics only applies to Democrats, but it can do no wrong on the other side. 02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:22.340 Or maybe, no, it's bullshit. 02:02:22.480 --> 02:02:25.620 Hey, by the way, tell me where the fuck Jill Stein is. Can you fucking, 02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:27.900 hey, can you tell me where the fuck Jill Stein is? 02:02:28.640 --> 02:02:30.720 I'm sorry. You know what the fuck Jill Stein is? 02:02:30.940 --> 02:02:33.820 The alarm is going to be a warm honor and what's going to destroy the world? 02:02:33.980 --> 02:02:35.100 Where the fuck is that bitch? 02:02:35.580 --> 02:02:35.820 Yeah. 02:02:36.160 --> 02:02:41.380 Well, look, this is a fundamental cultural difference, too. The right thing 02:02:41.770 --> 02:02:47.870 This fundamentally is about authority and lines of authority and respecting 02:02:47.870 --> 02:02:49.290 authority and blah, blah, blah. 02:02:49.790 --> 02:02:53.730 The left is about diversity of opinion and all of this kind of stuff. 02:02:53.910 --> 02:03:00.230 And so this is very much aligned with all the folks on the right saying, 02:03:00.430 --> 02:03:03.310 well, what if Clinton's in the Epstein files? 02:03:03.490 --> 02:03:08.790 What if Clinton did this? And people on the left are like, well, then fuck him. 02:03:08.790 --> 02:03:16.350 Jail yeah he probably is go put him in jail let him die there let him rot yeah whereas they. 02:03:16.350 --> 02:03:21.750 And they can't imagine this because they're like well you defend your guy no. 02:03:21.750 --> 02:03:24.330 Matter what fucking idiots i can't. 02:03:24.330 --> 02:03:30.750 I can't i can't anyway all right we were supposedly trying to wrap up. 02:03:30.750 --> 02:03:36.490 Yeah sorry i did that I need that. I did it. Sorry, it was me. No, no, no. 02:03:36.610 --> 02:03:41.430 But we do it. No, no, no. Sorry, we do. No, no, no. We do this. Fuck. 02:03:41.690 --> 02:03:43.470 You know, yeah, we're going for a wrap up. And all of a sudden, 02:03:43.550 --> 02:03:46.070 it's like, what happened? Oh, yeah. Okay. 02:03:46.790 --> 02:03:51.490 And I heard you going for the Taylor Swift lyric. And then Yvonne interrupted 02:03:51.490 --> 02:03:54.110 you. But, you know. Anyway. 02:03:54.730 --> 02:03:58.130 Does anyone have any plans this weekend? Good plans. Fun plans. 02:03:58.770 --> 02:04:00.310 I think we're done bowling tomorrow. 02:04:01.440 --> 02:04:02.820 I'm going to exercise. 02:04:03.280 --> 02:04:06.520 I'm going to go bowling, and I'm flying to Puerto Rico on Monday. 02:04:06.940 --> 02:04:07.420 Wow. 02:04:07.920 --> 02:04:10.760 I'm going to work on stuff around home and watch TV. 02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:13.100 Same. Same. 02:04:13.340 --> 02:04:13.820 There you go. 02:04:14.760 --> 02:04:15.500 Okay, so. 02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:18.760 It's so beautiful in Washington right now. Hopefully it'll be nice this weekend, too. 02:04:19.320 --> 02:04:24.820 Yeah, it's in the 50s. Awesome. Go out, walk. 02:04:25.080 --> 02:04:29.300 Yeah, we probably will go to a park and walk the dog with my mom and my son. 02:04:29.300 --> 02:04:36.660 I will say, look, one of the issues with what it gets cold here is that my house is made to stay cool. 02:04:36.820 --> 02:04:45.120 And what happens is that when you've got more floors, they get so damn cold. 02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:50.900 And so it's just during the day, it's just really uncomfortable. 02:04:52.000 --> 02:04:57.180 And I And since I Since I don't live like in I have a friend in Mexico City 02:04:57.180 --> 02:05:03.900 that did the thing Where under the marble They ram these lines To heat the floor 02:05:03.900 --> 02:05:10.720 Since I don't live in a place that's that cold I don't have that shit here Okay We have. 02:05:10.720 --> 02:05:16.800 A upstairs bathroom And it's way too hot up there Like it's like Sammy cleans

my bathroom. 02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:20.660 She hates it You need more controls. 02:05:22.660 --> 02:05:28.620 It's so easy to do those, though, because you just have to lay it down before you... Sorry. 02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:35.980 As I try to wrap it up for like the eight millionth time... Are you trying to get... 02:05:36.430 --> 02:05:40.310 As I have my medal here that I will present to you the next time I see you. 02:05:40.330 --> 02:05:41.030 Yes, my medal. 02:05:42.670 --> 02:05:45.690 For the 2003 Most Valuable Player. 02:05:47.170 --> 02:05:52.510 Curmudgeons-corner.com. Go to the website. You'll find all the ways to contact us. 02:05:52.910 --> 02:05:57.350 Yvonne and I, anyway. Emily, what's the best way to get in touch with you and or plug your podcast? 02:05:57.650 --> 02:06:03.110 Oh, sure. So you can find us at theumsurpodcast at gmail.com. 02:06:03.110 --> 02:06:09.190 You can follow the ums or follow umsir podcast, know thee on Instagram. 02:06:09.570 --> 02:06:15.830 And you can also follow me, Emily and Everett, and I will connect you with Sammy and everyone else. 02:06:15.990 --> 02:06:18.950 So both places are really fun, but we're definitely on Instagram. 02:06:18.950 --> 02:06:23.150 And then you can find us, Samly Blicks on TikTok, because that's where the kids 02:06:23.150 --> 02:06:25.810 are these days. And you guys are too. The kids. 02:06:25.970 --> 02:06:28.950 Yeah, the kids. We're the kids. 02:06:29.470 --> 02:06:33.570 so anyway on the website all the ways to contact us our archive of episodes 02:06:33.570 --> 02:06:37.550 transcripts all that kind of stuff and a link to our patreon so you can give 02:06:37.550 --> 02:06:40.510 us money we like money money is fun, 02:06:41.270 --> 02:06:45.770 and at various levels we'll send you a postcard we'll send you a mug we'll mention 02:06:45.770 --> 02:06:49.470 you on the show we'll do all this kind of stuff importantly at two dollars a 02:06:49.470 --> 02:06:52.790 month or more or if you just ask us we will invite you to our conventions corner 02:06:52.790 --> 02:06:58.390 slack where yvonne and i and emily and And all sorts of other folks are sharing 02:06:58.390 --> 02:07:00.350 links and chatting throughout the week. 02:07:00.610 --> 02:07:04.570 So do either of you have something from the Slack that you would like to highlight? 02:07:04.590 --> 02:07:09.430 I have it already because I had mentioned something earlier and I realized that 02:07:09.430 --> 02:07:11.270 I did save it. Okay for this? Okay. 02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:17.640 Sam has these weird methods of organizing his work and algorithms. 02:07:17.680 --> 02:07:19.820 Like, he's got these lists sometimes. 02:07:20.160 --> 02:07:24.620 Now he's working on this list thing where he randomly assigns his tasks and stuff. 02:07:24.920 --> 02:07:28.660 So he's got these methods, you know, he's got his methods, okay? 02:07:28.820 --> 02:07:34.760 So I found this guy online that apparently is kin to Sam in this way.

02:07:34.880 --> 02:07:38.720 For he wrote, I write C++ every day for two hours. 02:07:39.040 --> 02:07:45.120 And find this a day. I add two hours to the next day This has truly been a game 02:07:45.120 --> 02:07:50.240 changer Tomorrow I'm supposed to code For three years And this totally sounds 02:07:50.240 --> 02:07:53.700 like something Sam would do Based on his schedule Absolutely, 02:07:55.790 --> 02:07:59.710 You know, so yeah, so this guy, this guy is your kind of guy, Sam. 02:08:00.510 --> 02:08:02.410 Excellent. Emily, do you have one? 02:08:02.670 --> 02:08:05.650 What is this? What are we doing? 02:08:07.550 --> 02:08:09.910 Some random tidbit that's funny. 02:08:10.070 --> 02:08:14.230 Is there some article or something from the Curmudgeon's Chorus Slack that you 02:08:14.230 --> 02:08:16.510 wanted to highlight that we have not talked about on the show? 02:08:16.670 --> 02:08:18.650 Or for that matter, if you have a funny article. 02:08:18.990 --> 02:08:21.350 You know, I want to just read this because as you were saying that, 02:08:21.430 --> 02:08:23.450 I was like, oh, am I supposed to find something in the Slack? 02:08:23.450 --> 02:08:26.710 And this is what I immediately came to, and I will read it out loud. 02:08:28.250 --> 02:08:31.170 What did we get stuck in our rectums last year? 02:08:31.950 --> 02:08:32.350 Oh! 02:08:33.510 --> 02:08:36.470 Yeah, I think we mentioned this a couple weeks ago, but go ahead, go ahead. 02:08:36.530 --> 02:08:39.390 No, I'm just clicking in there, and I'm like, this is what came up. 02:08:39.450 --> 02:08:40.590 So this is what I'm choosing. 02:08:41.330 --> 02:08:45.170 This is the time of year to be grateful for not having things stuck in our asses 02:08:45.170 --> 02:08:47.450 and to think of those less fortunate than us. 02:08:49.850 --> 02:08:55.370 So spare thought for those Americans who misjudged the capacity of their own orifices. 02:08:55.550 --> 02:08:58.150 All reports are taken from the U.S. 02:08:58.550 --> 02:09:01.530 Consumer Product Safety Commission's database of emergency room visits. 02:09:01.970 --> 02:09:07.390 So, yeah, those are things that got stuck in people's asses and were reported. 02:09:07.610 --> 02:09:09.090 And they have, like. 02:09:09.230 --> 02:09:13.410 They file reports with details on every single one, yes. 02:09:13.510 --> 02:09:16.430 And people are very creative. I do not want to look at it. 02:09:19.640 --> 02:09:25.220 but I appreciated that. Also, I had like a random, the Slack bot did a custom 02:09:25.220 --> 02:09:27.080 response for me. Have you seen those? 02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:32.780 And in response to someone, it wanted me to put a little poop, 02:09:33.020 --> 02:09:37.460 you know, like a little poop emoji. And I'm like, I don't understand. 02:09:38.100 --> 02:09:41.720 No, there are some auto responses that 02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:44.360 were actually set up by someone who was on the 02:09:44.360 --> 02:09:49.780 Slack years ago who isn't anymore that if if people say certain things it will 02:09:49.780 --> 02:09:53.980 auto respond not just you saw it but other people saw it too so like for instance 02:09:53.980 --> 02:09:58.920 you're you're one you saw is basically if anyone says shit or poop or anything 02:09:58.920 --> 02:10:02.620 like that it just automatically responds with the emoji yes. 02:10:02.620 --> 02:10:07.720 Well and the thing is that whenever i you know whenever the word fuck is used 02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:09.020 on the slack it assumes it's me. 02:10:09.540 --> 02:10:10.000 Oh. 02:10:10.420 --> 02:10:11.640 Which is probably correct. 02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:12.860 There goes Yvonne again. 02:10:13.220 --> 02:10:18.320 Well, I guess I'll use my colorful language going forward. Okay. 02:10:18.680 --> 02:10:20.220 And it can guess who it is. 02:10:21.840 --> 02:10:26.100 Okay. Well, thanks everybody. Thank you, Emily, for joining us once again. 02:10:26.200 --> 02:10:27.500 Thanks for being here. It's been a blast as usual. 02:10:28.020 --> 02:10:28.840 So fun to be here. 02:10:29.580 --> 02:10:33.660 And everybody, listen to us, but also tune in to UMSUR. 02:10:33.840 --> 02:10:34.100 Yeah. 02:10:35.580 --> 02:10:39.520 They also publish most weeks and it's good stuff. Okay. 02:10:40.620 --> 02:10:44.180 And with that, I think we are done. Thanks everybody for listening. 02:10:44.420 --> 02:10:46.620 Have a great week. Stay safe. Stay fun. 02:10:47.200 --> 02:10:52.260 Sorry, because these last two weeks we recorded at the beginning of the week 02:10:52.260 --> 02:10:54.080 two weeks ago and the end of the week this time. 02:10:54.200 --> 02:10:58.700 So it's one of the longest gaps between episodes we've ever had. 02:10:58.860 --> 02:11:01.620 So hopefully you didn't get out of the habit and you're back here. 02:11:01.740 --> 02:11:05.960 I guess if you're still listening here at the end of the episode, you are. So whatever. 02:11:06.280 --> 02:11:06.380 Yes. 02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:12.260 Anyway, have a great week, everybody. We'll see you next time. Everybody say goodbye. 02:11:12.880 --> 02:11:13.240 Goodbye. 02:11:13.880 --> 02:11:14.380 Bye. 02:11:15.320 --> 02:11:15.820 Goodbye. 02:11:46.520 --> 02:11:50.480 Okay. Yvonne, next time we lose your audio in the middle, we'll take the time 02:11:50.480 --> 02:11:54.260 to fix it, because it did sound, like, noticeably worse ever since that happened. 02:11:54.780 --> 02:11:56.240 I don't fucking understand. 02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:58.880 It's on the ones in your ears. I can tell. 02:11:59.880 --> 02:12:00.280 Right. 02:12:02.060 --> 02:12:04.680 Okay. Bye, everyone. Thank you again. 02:12:04.880 --> 02:12:05.380 Stop. Report. 02:12:05.860 --> 02:12:06.600 Stop. Stop. 02:12:08.160 --> 02:12:08.860 Stop. Stop.