In February of 2000, a 9-year-old girl named Asha Degree packed her book bag and tucked it away, waiting for the right time to sneak out of her North Carolina home. To this day, no one knows why she left, or why she was walking along Highway 18 alone around 4 in the morning. And the case would only get more confusing as her belongings start to pop up along that same highway, spaced out over 26 miles, and 18 months.

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00:00:00Hi crime junkies I'm your host Ashley Flowers And I'm Brett And welcome to the first episode of two thousand and nineteen I hope you all had a wonderful New Year's Eve I know I had a wonderful New Year's Eve at our crime gin and already I know it
00:00:15couldn't be there It was insane Well over one hundred twenty crime junkies come out and it wasn't just crying Junkies from Indiana like I expected we had people fly in from California and Georgia and for mine Wild Yeah there is this time laughs like one minute video of
00:00:34the party that everyone needs to go check out on our instagram at crime junkie podcast But I truly had the best time ever was so amazing meeting these fans talking dancing the night away I want to live in my sequin jumpsuit that I had made It was amazing
00:00:48Yeah you sent me a picture of yourself getting ready and I was like How much fashion tape are you wearing yet Not fashion tape It was fashion glue I was glued into that jumpsuit guys but you looked like a rock star And speaking of rock star So even
00:01:04before the party We're getting ready New Year's Eve And Brett you called me crying And do you want to tell people why Yeah I was getting ready to go to the wedding that I had on New Year's Eve And I was just going to Twitter and I noticed
00:01:16that amazing writer who is now my favorite writer I think I wrote a piece for Rolling Stone on the best You're kinda half castes of twenty eighteen And we were there Yeah Her name is Laura Barcella She is my favorite person in the world right now but we
00:01:32got named in Rolling Stone and it's not even that we got names like the company that we were in Amazing amazing shows that we love and adore Yeah we look up to these people it's like been a dream of ours Should create anything that would be in like
00:01:45the realm of these other people But to see our names like right next to them is insane Amazing Yes It was so flattering So amazing We are so thankful to everybody who's been listening and sharing The only reason we're in the top charts of iTunes right now is
00:02:00because of all of you telling your friends and family and getting the word out And we appreciate it so much And actually one of the things that Laura mentioned in the article that we do and that we like to Dio is talk about under reported cases So I
00:02:15figured there is no better way to start two thousand nineteen than to tell you about the under reported case of a nine year old girl named Asia Degree who went missing back in two thousand Okay This is one of the's stranger disappearances of a young child I think
00:03:02I've ever read about And there are a couple of online forums and YouTubers that have talked about this case but I'm a little surprised it hasn't gotten more attention So that's what we're aiming for here today Our story takes place in February of two thousand in a small
00:03:18town called Shelby on the western outskirts of Charlotte North Carolina The little girl we're talking about Asia is nine years old at the time and she lives at home with her ten year old brother O'bryant Her mom Michaela and her dad Harold Sunday February thirteen was a fairly
00:03:37unremarkable day for the degrees that Sunday they went to church They ate lunch at their aunt's house had some candy that they've gotten for Valentine's Day which was just around the corner and they went home with their mom Their dad didn't go home that day and stay with
00:03:51them because he had to go work At his second job Michaela had a normal routine for the kid She liked to bathe them before bed But on this day particular there was a crash near their home that knocked out the power and prevented them for getting their nightly
00:04:05bath So the kids went to bed at their normal time around eight thirty Asia in her white nightgown with red trim and her hair and pigtails knowing that they would have to wake up a little bit early to get that bath that they missed the night before And
00:04:19I gotta be honest Brett The next part is where my research kind of falls off a bit Things get really fuzzy because I went in circles online trying to figure out exactly what happened in this like short couple of hours like I wanted to know the exact movements
00:04:38of everyone in that house Everyone in the family between eight thirty and two thirty in the morning and I finally had to give up because my head was just spinning There's just nothing out there There's stuff out there But my problem is there's a bunch of conflicting stuff
00:04:54out there and I am having a really hard time tracking down all these conflicting accounts to an actual source So I don't know where all this is coming from Thes news articles from two thousand are really really hard to find So let me kind of tell you the
00:05:13couple of things that are said about what happens between eight thirty and two thirty one Account says at around twelve thirty year old returns home from his job and by this time the power has been turned back on in the home Now all of them agree that sometime
00:05:28in the night the power comes back on That's not really what's in debate It's really what time does Harold get home And does he stay home now Some articles and forums say that he watches TV to kind of unwind before he goes to bed around two thirty Other
00:05:42places I found say he gets home then goes back out to buy Valentine's Day candy for the kids and then gets home later and again goes to bed at two thirty Still other places say that after work he went directly to get candy and then came home later
00:05:57but again in bed by two thirty and in one or two places that I could never track down to any source It even says that supposedly there's a version of this story where he gets home at twelve thirty and Asia is on the couch dressed in normal clothes
00:06:16watching TV and her dad tells her to go to bed which is the strangest of all of these but again cannot track it to any real source I have no clue what's real and what's not And this is the problem with under reported cases and especially under reported
00:06:31cases from almost nineteen years ago I can't find the actual news articles to see where people got thiss Who's telling What is this just a bad game of telephone where the story keeps changing the more people tell it online and the more people exaggerate in elaborate Or is
00:06:49Harold story actually changing each time And I tend to lean more towards the former thinking that people are making this up years later trying to create suspicion to give themselves some kind of answer in a case where there is none But I'll get more to that later So
00:07:08what happens between eight thirty and two thirty is fuzzy but according to multiple sources and this is where we kind of get back on track and everything starts to agree again The FBI's website the Charlie projects website Asia's dad says he checks on the kids before going to
00:07:23bed around two thirty and he sees them both sleeping and just of note O'brien and Isha actually share a room so he's able to check on both of them at once Later in the early morning hours O'bryant wakes up and sees Asia standing in their room and it's
00:07:38thought that she may have used the restroom and then gone back to bed because shortly after this O'brian hears her bed like creaking But he doesn't look over He just assumes that she's moving around in her bed right But not placing eyes on her could have been a
00:07:52mistake because just a few hours later at five forty five in the morning equal is alarm goes off She set the alarm early that morning to give the kids their bath before getting them off to school Cool When talking about that specific morning like Willow was quoted telling
00:08:09a newspaper reporter I woke up on February fourteenth two thousand at five forty five a M The alarm went off for my children to go to school at six thirty a M I went to the bathroom two feet away from the door to start the bathwater because they
00:08:24could not take a bath tonight Before since we had a power outage I opened their bedroom door My Sono Bryant was under the covers as he usually slept I called his name and he jumped up As usual I realized that Asia was not in her bed She goes
00:08:39on to tell the same reporter how she frantically started searching the house She says she looked aside O'brien sped because sometimes Isha would lay there But she wasn't there She checked the living room Maybe she'd gone to lay on the couch but she wasn't there She checked the
00:08:54kitchen then all the closets in the house And this is when she realizes that Asia is nowhere in the home So she rushes to her bedroom where she hurriedly dresses while waking up her husband to tell him that Asia is missing table Check the cars together and they
00:09:11start calling family members that she might be with Herald's mother who lived just across the street Isha's and who they'd all eat lunch with the day before all to no avail I Kula said after they found out that she wasn't at her grandma's or her aunts that that
00:09:26is When she went into panic mode she called her own mother hysterical and told her what was happening And that's when her mother said Hang up the phone and call the police I found a transcript of the nine hundred eleven call which appears to be accurate but full
00:09:44disclosure again This did not come from a news article This came from the deep dark web of the Internet where I spent hours and hours and hours So I think I'm going to read Harold Who's the one that actually called nine eleven em Brit Do you want to
00:09:59read the dispatcher Sure thing Nine eleven Yes I'd like to report a child missing From where From my house What's your address Three four o four Oak Crest Drive Is this the department Yeah On which apartment Apartment three Four o six Okay Is she missing from three four
00:10:24four four three four six three four o four There's not an apartment number It's three for No no no It's not like a A or B No And what's your name Harold Degree Your phone number Harold the next door neighbours said she went down the road and said
00:10:46that she was just a kid on the road What's the child's name Asia degree What's her full name Asia Jaquilla degree Can you spell that for me She's a s h A ay qu ay ay ay one j q U I mean yeah J Q u a i
00:11:08l l degree Yeah Yeah How nine Why your blood black When did you last see her Harold Last time I went to bed she was in bed We got up this morning Called her to get up to school and she wasn't there And her book bags missing And
00:11:27her pocketbook So you don't know if she got dressed for she still got on her med close or what We don't know Was the door open or anything No Her brother sleeps in there with her And when he When he was in there he didn't hear her when
00:11:40she got up Okay All right Harold I won't get an officer to get in touch with you just as soon as possible You do have a locator please calls back and let us know Glenn Thank you Police were on scene by six forty to search the home and
00:11:56the nearby areas Police even brought search dogs with them but the dogs were unable to pick up Isha scent When the police cleared the home and realize that Isha was nowhere inside they X fan did the search to surrounding neighborhoods and streets by seven o'clock Neighbors and friends
00:12:12had awoke and shocked by the news offered their services to help search as well But neighborhood by neighborhood street by street they find nothing not a single sign of or item belonging to Asia As this search is going on police do start processing the degree home like a
00:12:31crime scene But there doesn't appear to have been a crime committed No forced entry no blood no sign that anyone but the family was inside that home In fact not only do they find nothing pointing to an intruder taking Asia but they find evidence that perhaps Atia left
00:12:47on her own accord based on that nine eleven call police know that her backpack along with her purse um close sneakers were all missing A neighbor saw her walking away by herself So did Asia leave on her own If she did Why where was she going And could
00:13:05she have been trying to meet somebody Once police start to explore the idea that Asia left on her own they start to think that maybe this was something she had been planning But Asia's parents say No way This was so unlike Asia You see she and her brother
00:13:23lived pretty sheltered lives They didn't have a computer in their home outside of school church and basketball They didn't do a whole lot of socializing And beyond this Asia's parents say that she was deathly afraid of dark She was deathly afraid of storms and of dogs so she
00:13:41would not have left the home in the middle of the night in the dark while by the way it was storming Also they said that Asia was shy and timid She was not the kind to run away And it's really pretty rare that you hear of kids who
00:13:57live in pretty stable homes running away at such a young age Yeah she's nine She was a little kid I feel like I've read somewhere That runaway age kind of starts at twelve and nine is much younger than that Yeah that actually it was something that I came
00:14:13across in this specific case that someone from the FBI was I believe like said this that it was that at age twelve that they start really classifying kids as runaways and usually they're younger than twelve They almost always assumed something happened to them like some kind of foul
00:14:28play unless there's like a specific reason like something crazy was going on in the home But that doesn't seem like it's a case here right Everything here is pointing to the fact that she left willingly Also I should mention that all of the doors were locked in the
00:14:44home when Asia's parents woke up Now she had a key that she kept in her book bag so she seems to have left on her own locking the doors behind her And what the police and the FBI later say is that it appears that her bag had been
00:15:02packed well in advance And it seems as if she had prepared two make this trip and she got everything ready so that she wouldn't risk waking up her brother that night And there's something else to suggest that she left willingly and on her own Sightings of Asia start
00:15:22to come up the same night that she went missing Two motorists say they saw a young black girl matching her description walking along a two lane highway This is Highway eighteen Sometime between three Thirty and four o'clock in the morning again the same night she is thought to
00:15:39have left her house Nothing about this sighting makes sense I mean it was a perfect description of her So the FBI the police believe it is her But again super bad weather It's storming raining There's this little girl walking alone on the side of the highway because it
00:15:57happened I understand why it stuck out to them Nothing about this is normal How far away is the highway from her house Well at the time they spotted her she was just about a mile away from her home and she was walking along the road in the direction
00:16:11toward town And this is actually a road she would have been somewhat familiar with and a direction she would have gone before because this is actually the direction her school bus used to go The motorists who saw her did they mention what she was wearing when she sold
00:16:26her nightgown No she was now in a long sleep white shirt and pants and based on the items missing from her house police and family were confident that this was her from what I read and again these are one hundred percent confirmed accounts But it seems that there
00:16:42were like two full outfits that were missing and one of them wass like jeans with a white long sleeve shirt Did you know the motorist called nine one one about the sighting So no And obviously this is one of the biggest mistakes in the case if not the
00:17:01biggest I mean we probably wouldn't be here nineteen years later if someone would have seen a nine year old girl on the side of the highway during a storm and just called the police right like a normal person like a normal person Multiple people see a little girl
00:17:14walking along the highway but no one reports it now One guy did try and help her He says that he made a U turn to pull alongside of the road and ask her if she needs help But he said that as soon as he rolled down his window
00:17:28she freaked out and ran away from the road into this like tree line just down like two straight across from the road And the man didn't see her again To me this is like even more reason to call the police Like Yeah a little kid just ran into
00:17:43the woods Yeah and it's not like dense woods You know how there's like tree lines on the side of like rural roads rural highways We have that all over Indiana Definitely So after this sighting there were no more sightings of Asia on the road anywhere For two days
00:17:59after this there was just nothing No sightings no items found Searches continued and there were thousands of man Hours is poured into this case but absolutely nothing surfaced until February seventeen Police in their search make it to this property off of Highway eighteen That's the highway issue was
00:18:21seen walking on And when they start questioning the lady who owns it asking if she saw anything a lightbulb goes off for her She didn't see a girl but she did find something on her property on the fifteenth something that didn't mean much at the time because she
00:18:38didn't know Asia was missing but something that now she thinks might be significant On the fifteenth she went to her shed and found a Mickey Mouse hair bow a green marker and a pencil all just inside of the shed like right inside the front door When she takes
00:18:56police back to the shed and gives them permission to search they find even more They find some candy wrappers and they confirm that those were the same kind that Asia had gotten after playing in a basketball game on the Saturday before she went missing She had been there
00:19:14but why had she gone there And where was she now despite finding this clue they were days behind her and they weren't able to track her movements They were forced to wait for another lead to surface and that next lead wouldn't come for eighteen months after her disappearance
00:19:33But when that lead comes it leaves everyone with more questions than answers In August of two thousand Won A contractor is cleaning out some land off of Highway eighteen not the area near the shed where Asia was last seen but some twenty six miles from her home and
00:19:55in a different direction than she had been seen walking on the night she disappeared As this man is digging and clearing the land he comes across a black trash bag a bag that had been buried on his property He knew he never buried this So who did And
00:20:13what could be inside This man gets off of his excavating equipment and makes his way over to the black trash bag He picks it up rustling it in his hands and opens it to find another black trash bag It's strange to say the least and when he opens
00:20:33that second bag inside he finds a child backpack Not just any child's backpack Written on the bag was Asia's name and telephone number Now obviously all of our crying junkies at the time would have been following the case and freaking out after coming upon this But this guy
00:20:54hadn't been following the news This guy had no idea a young girl had been missing from this area of town for over eighteen months but it was still weird enough and stuck with him enough to mention it to his wife the next morning at breakfast And luckily his
00:21:10wife had been paying attention And thank God because it makes me sick to my stomach to think that he could have just thrown it away Or like never knew what he was holding on to and how important of a piece of evidence he had in his hand Yeah
00:21:25that's insane Once they realized what they actually have they contact police who descend on this guy's property to do a thorough search of the land having no idea if they're going to find more evidence or maybe Asia herself after an extensive search all they come up with are
00:21:44some animal bones and a pair of men's khaki pants The bag was sent to a federal laboratory for testing but they sighted a pending investigation and never released the results And I haven't been able to find anything on the pants either I assume they were deemed unrelated but
00:22:06like Man since I've been working with the police and going through cold case files here in Indiana Those pants are exactly the kind of thing we would get excited about possibly finding some kind of DNA on with all this new technology No granted I have no info on
00:22:23how close or how far those pants were found from Asia's bag and all of that would play into how likely it would be that they're actually connected But the FBI's releasing nothing Nothing from the pants Nothing from the bag They say this is an ongoing investigation but that
00:22:38makes me think they found something They're holding on to some piece of evidence as they're like Ace in the hole So when they get somebody they can prove he's the guy because he knows maybe what's in the bag or the condition of the bag I don't know how
00:22:52Where does this whole thing though Like clearly a nine year old isn't going Teo put her book bag in two trash bags and then bury it right I mean I can't even see how she'd want to get rid of it because it's the only thing that she had
00:23:07with her and it has all of her possessions But if somehow she did get rid of her backpack No way is she doing it like this So we have to assume someone else buried it right Yeah I think so Because you're right If she wanted to get rid
00:23:24of her backpack why on earth is she doing it like this And it seems like whoever buried it there was almost trying to preserve it Like if you were just wanting to get rid of it because it was like evidence or linked back to you You just you
00:23:40just wanted gone Why double bag it before you Very right To me That's like I'm trying to preserve this So what You can go back and get it later Nothing makes sense Yeah it's really strange Or did they somehow know that the like area was about to be
00:23:56excavated and they wanted it to be found But even in that case to me if you had buried a recently you knew you knew was going to get found why double bag Unless you wanted something preserved There's something inside of there that you were like taunting police and
00:24:10one of them to find And I would also want to know and get something they never released is like How fresh was the area where it was Barry did It looked like it had been there for eighteen months Did it look like it had been placed there a
00:24:23few weeks ago All of this is on answered All of these questions I have but I think we definitely have a perpetrator And this is something I think most people who look at this case can agree on including Asia's family They say that yes even though it doesn't
00:24:39make sense It wasn't her personality She probably left the house of her own free will That's what all the evidence points to But somewhere along the way she had to have met with foul play Investigators officially announced that they consider Asia's disappearance to be a criminal matter and
00:24:56foul play is suspected After that book bag is discovered Do you know Did they ever consider the parents as people of interest or potential suspects Or was it pretty clear all along that they had nothing to do with it So they actually did for a hot minute Ike
00:25:12Willis said that they were looking at the family hard in those first few hours after she was missing but they started to realise that something bigger was going on Would they got those sightings of Asia the day that she went missing But even though they started looking outside
00:25:26of the family like the same day they ended up going back to the family in March just a month after Asia went missing when all the leads were drying up they gave both of them polygraphs And I assume they did okay because neither Harold or Aquila where ever
00:25:40named a suspects or persons of interest and I think now again nineteen years later I have no idea what happened there early days But after thes sightings after we find that backpack I don't think law enforcement have any lingering suspicions about the family Or if they do they've
00:25:57never said it publicly Okay now that backpack would be the last piece of physical evidence ever found in this case and I'm not sure the last time the back back or the trash bags were forensically tested But I would huh hope that the family is pushing the FBI
00:26:14to have that stuff retested because it seems like the on ly hope for answers at this point Wait Does that mean there has been nothing since two thousand one Not exactly That was the last piece of physical evidence Okay so in two thousand fourteen the case kind of
00:26:34gets stirred up again because a man named Donald Ferguson gets arrested and he is all over the news and starts getting linked to Asia's case And I need to tell you a little bit about why Donald is in the news In nineteen ninety a seven year old girl
00:26:52named Shalonda Pool went missing and she was found just one day after her disappearance behind an elementary school She had been sexually assaulted stabbed and strangled Her case had actually gone unsolved for many many years until there was a DNA hit in her case in two thousand fourteen
00:27:15and this DNA hit came back to Donald Ferguson a man who had known the pool's a man who had helped the family search for Shalonda when she had gone missing As he was arrested and tried and investigated It came to light that he had actually been in North
00:27:32Carolina at the time of Asia's disappearance and a lot of people wonder if he could have been involved The cases are a little different because OK there's two years different age but I think it's still to me Seven and nine are almost like the same They're definitely in
00:27:49the same bracket Yeah also he knew Shalonda so he could have been grooming her whereas Asia would have been a total stranger But it's not completely out of the question that perhaps he I was just driving late at night saw her walking is perfect victim just there for
00:28:11the taking A crime of opportunity Yeah but again why was she out there in the first place It's absolutely killing me and I've thought about it every which way And nothing makes sense to me again The investigators said whatever they found made them think that she'd planned this
00:28:28trip for days before she had left but they couldn't find any reason No abuse in the home No real reason whatsoever Some people say that she was sad about her team losing a basketball game the Saturday before she disappeared like she was apparently the star of the team
00:28:46And that game she had to sit out and she'll she felt really bad But I don't know that you pack your bag and plan to leave home because your team lost their first game Some people say she was inspired by this book She was reading about a runaway
00:28:58who had all these adventures But again none of this really plays into what we know about her in her personality Yeah I was going to say even I have very different personalities And even as a kid you were totally the type to get mad and run away Right
00:29:15Well so here's the thing I think I was the type to like get mad and threatened to run away but I would never I never actually went through with it I never packed a bag but also of you real in you too Like threatening So here's a thing
00:29:28Yeah I would I would have never threatened to do that Yeah and I think the difference is I if I ever felt like I had to and I think that's the real thing is like at the end of the day I was mad at my parents but like
00:29:39nothing ever maybe really want to go But I had full confidence in myself that if I had to leave like I would survive on the land by myself just fine Whereas I would be like I'm going to die So I'm just going to stay here I guess so
00:29:51that's Yeah And I feel like she's maybe a little bit more of my personality than yours Well and that's what they kept saying Like she never even threatened to run away Yeah that's what they kept saying over and over like she wasn't dramatic She never once talked about
00:30:04running away So it's crazy that this like one basketball game or she reads this one book and then she's like Yeah I'm gonna leave at three o'clock in the morning when it's storming and that walk across the highway to go where like none of this makes sense Is
00:30:21there any possibility that someone maybe could have lured her out or she was going to meet someone somewhere But who like I have to believe nineteen years later they looked into everyone in her life They haven't found any suspects So if it's a case like Shalonda where someone
00:30:39was grooming her who was this person to have They stayed totally under the radar Like you know in two thousand nineteen I'd love to be like Oh she probably met this person online I don't even have a computer Exactly And also like in two thousand how many nine
00:30:54year olds for in chat rooms like the two thousand's Internet is not the twenty nineteen you know And I mean no totally there's Well I was going to say when you were talking about the news articles news agencies local news agencies weren't even putting articles online in In
00:31:08like two thousand two thousand one Yeah very rarely do they even have websites I mean this is the baby Internet Yes So she would have had Tio have like Mets like met somebody online at a computer that was maybe at her school which what they probably had wasn't
00:31:24even the Internet They probably like computer games I mean I would just find it really really really hard to believe that she was being groomed by some stranger So the most likely if she was going to meet somebody it's somebody in that she knew in her daily life
00:31:38in their circle Yeah who's just like gone totally under the radar but we don't know So in two thousand and fifteen the FBI announced that they are reinvestigating the case and they along with the community come up with forty five thousand dollars as a reward for anyone with
00:31:58information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person involved It takes a year and it's still super unclear exactly what the tip was that came in But in May two thousand six team a new tip does come in and from this I mean somehow they they decide
00:32:20that this lead is super credible And they make an announcement to the public that the night Asia went missing she was seen getting into a dark green either early seventies Lincoln Continental Mark four or possibly a dark green early seventies Ford Thunderbird And she was seen getting into
00:32:42this car a long Route eighteen or Highway eighteen near where she was last seen by those two motorists that the car was described as having rust around the wheels But they're both pretty distinctive cars so but you have pictures of these cars so the first one is the
00:33:02Lincoln Second one is the four Thunderbird And remember this isn't like a case that happened in the seventies or eighties This is the two thousand thes air Very distinctive cars in two thousand cause they're classics Yeah they are absolute boats I used to drive a Lincoln and I
00:33:17kind of miss it there They're actually really both cool guys Really Cool Yeah Again They're classic cars So I understand why this would have stuck out Shocking though that we don't know like who owned that Anything else right You would think like tracing down who own these kind
00:33:38of cars in two thousand Might have been a little simpler Yeah I mean access to like registration stuff like that I mean there can't be that many of these cars left in two thousand I would think And you know of course whoever put in this tip didn't get
00:33:51any kind of license plate Were they out of state with God And I mean I just wondered why you I mean maybe she was going the wrong direction to see a license plate But again even a little girl walking on the side of the road getting into a
00:34:04car Also red flags Yeah Read by someone called nine one one for the love of God OK so besides the red flags Why now Why in two thousand sixteen Does this person come forward with this information When they saw it happen the night she went missing That is
00:34:23something that I've seen Everybody go into rabbit holes on because it is super strange I don't know to me I don't know if it's just because maybe they they heard a podcast or saw YouTube video You know they saw this case and like Oh I remember that because
00:34:39it was super unique to me If it didn't stand out to you enough to remember it and report it at the time it's shocking that you would like we're call it in two and two together now Yeah and recall it well enough But I have to believe like
00:34:54whoever put in this tip knew something very specific that on ly a person who actually saw that would know because otherwise I don't know why the police would take it out of the FBI would take it so seriously You know what I mean Like that Maybe they knew
00:35:09she was wearing something or saw something specific I don't know what could they have said that was so believable that we have this tip Now like I can't even think of something that would be like Yes I believe you now because you said this one thing right And
00:35:25something that I wonder too is this kind of calls into question The whole timeline we thought we knew because we they say I mean every report They say she went to that shed So did she run away Go to that shed come back and get in the screen
00:35:41car Did she actually never make it to the shed at all And all of that again That keeps coming up in the reports after they know about this green car So I feel like she had to make it to the shed at some point And there's no real
00:35:53details about like what time they saw her get into the car Maybe it was daylight which would make more sense how they know it's a dark green car So it was later that morning I mean again I have a thousand questions about why this tip was validated but
00:36:08there's something there's something they're not telling us for them to put this out as like fact in the case And unfortunately because this person waited so long it's going to be way harder to track down That car likely has changed hands so many times between two thousand and
00:36:26two thousand sixteen Now two thousand nineteen Like who knows who owned it This is a shot in the dark But any chance Donald Ferguson ever owned a green car like this girl I was searching but I wasn't able to find out anything I am still dying to know
00:36:45I'm dying to know about anyone in North Carolina or the surrounding states who owned either of those in two thousand I feel like they're pretty distinctive cars And you know one thing that sticks out to me too if she got in Why I almost think she this goes
00:37:01back Teo Maybe her being lured out there almost like she would have to know the person Because if you remember that other motorists whose tried to stop to help her she ran away from you She freaked out and ran away from him And again I What about this
00:37:16person who rolled up Did they just look familiar Hide again I don't know I could theorize for days but the truth is we have no answers In two thousand and seventeen the FBI assembled their car team and I don't know if you remember that from our monster in
00:37:35Fort Wayne episode on April Tinsley Yeah they're like the specialized team that go out on like abductions and really likely to be solved cases right for specifically for children And by the way total side No but I have gotten all of your messages listeners We are working on
00:37:52a follow up episode about April Tinsley and her killer being arrested and sentence Please be patient It's taking some time We thought there will be a trial that we were going to cover Hay pled guilty We're working on it We hear you It's gonna happen But anyways so
00:38:10they assemble this car team and Asia's case and according to Wikipedia so take this as what you will They've done over three hundred interviews since they started in late two thousand seventeen But the interviews and re investigations haven't led tow any new developments in the case and law
00:38:28enforcement and the family are waiting for that one person with the right piece of information That person who knows somebody in two thousand who was driving that kind of green car that person who maybe heard a story from a friend about picking up a young girl on the
00:38:45road that night that person with the one piece of information that could break this case wide open If you have any information on Asia degrees case you can submit a tip through the FBI Charlotte office at seven o for six to seven to six one zero zero And
00:39:18if you want to see the cars that we're talking about just to double check because maybe they sound familiar You could go to our website and Gu are episodes block for this specific episode at crime junkie podcast dot com and British people want to check us out on
00:39:33social Call us own Twitter and be back next week with a brand new episode This episode of Crime Junkie was researched written and hosted by me with co hosting by Brett Pray Watch All of our editing and sound production was done by David Flowers And all of our
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