Full Transcript for 010: The Encore Stand (Avengers: Endgame Encore & Lanterns Episode 7)

I would say the Steel Curtain and when we get our first ever Madden video game. So this is a And we'll actually see all this. It comes out on Prime November eighteenth. I think that Cage is a great actor. He does pretty much every role really well. You know, we've seen that with Spider Noir. But I think that it is, you know, it's gonna be good. So that being said, let's get into it. Let's watch this trailer. Nick: Do it. Let's do it. Julian: I know that conversation's gonna be hilarious in the movie. Nick: yeah, yeah. There w there there was a good amount of funny moments packed in that trailer. Like and some funny people in there, like John Mulaney in there. He's hilarious. Shane Gillis. Like wait, yeah, think about yeah, think Julian: yeah. yeah. The chain's gonna be hilarious. He's definitely gonna be Nick: about that. Think about that just who we saw in that trailer. Nick Cage, Julian: He he was in Nick: Kathryn Hahn, Shane Gillis, and John Mulaney and and who there I feel like there was one more person that I recognized in there, but I can't remember but That's a that's a funny game right there. That's a funny lineup. Julian: Christian Bell was also in there. Nick: That that was Kristen Bale. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like, bro, Julian: Yeah, it was Christian Bow. Nick: what are we talking about? What are we talking about? That looks good. Julian: 'Cause Katherine Hahn plays John Madden's wife, Virginia Madden, and Melaney plays Trip Hawkins. But they don't say who Shane Gillis plays. It doesn't say. Nick: Is he like the creator of the game? Okay. Is is John Mulaney's character like the creator of the game or something? Yeah, okay. 'Cause I'm y obviously. True. Julian: assuming yes. Cause I don't know who the creator of the game is off the top of my head because Madden was one of those games for me that like was very popular for me when I was growing up. Like everybody played it, all my friends played it. I played it even probably a little bit into college. And then I got into two K then I felt like all of those games just kept making the same game. So I just kinda I was like I'm not really like Nick: Fair. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. Julian: Come on, we can do a little something better. So I've I've I've went out and started playing different types of games. But other but they're still, you know, they still have the right. Like I still play. It wasn't like I wasn't good. So it's it was more so like, you know, I just got older after a while, I guess. But I think this movie though will Nick: True. Julian: probably make me want to play it again because I don't think it's gonna just be only about him as a p like, you know, I think it'll be him as a coach. them showing his dominance or whatever he you know, however he how good he was in his in his moments. And then I think they're gonna go to after he gets sick or gets his health diagnosis. Now he's in the booth as a broadcaster and then we're gonna get him as you know, his playbook becoming into a

game. And so I Nick: Yeah. Julian: wonder how they're gonna tie all this up. So I think it's gonna be pretty cool. Nick: Yeah, yeah. That d that it just looks interesting and entertaining. Like at the ve at the very least. So like Julian: for sure. Nick: yeah, I'm excited for that. On Prime Video, November eighteenth. Julian: yeah. Nick: yep. And okay, getting into our next trailer, is for Ray Gun, which is directed by Brad Bird, the director of The Incredibles. it foll Julian: Animated noir, right? Isn't isn't it like Nick: Yep, yep. Animated noir follows a private detective who is drawn into a case involving aliens and murder in the alternate futuristic city Metropia on Netflix Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: December 18th. So I've been hearing about Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: this movie being getting made for a long time. And like I think this is the first, like we've seen some images, I'm pretty sure, but this is the first, like, Julian: Right. Nick: you know, the first official like trailer that we've gotten for it. So let's see what's going on with This He Julian: Okay. Nick: we getting that in theaters? Julian: Yeah, that's gonna be good. That is that a Netflix Nick: we getting it in theaters? Julian: that's a Netflix in theaters, right? Nick: Yeah, yeah, cuz was I think cause when we talked about a few weeks ago like the you know the list of Netflix movies that they're putting in theaters, I don't remember that being on the list, but let's go. That looked tough. That looked tough. Julian: I am I'm excited for this one. This is looking pretty cool. Nick: That was sick. Like, ooh, like just from that opening, like, it was like one of the first two or three shots. You see them going into the crime scene and the Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: the yellow tape is just holographic and you could just walk through it and like if you if you're like, you know, if you have the access, it it looks like. Bro, what? Julian: Yeah. Nick: And just the style, like the obviously the noir of it, but like it's like noir mixed with Monsters Inc., mixed with Osmosis Jones. Julian: Yes. Nick: Mixed with like Lilo and Stitch. Like it's just it's bro, it's just like all the aliens and creatures, it's crazy. It's crazy Julian: And like I think that like especially with some of the care the c like the creatures, like I think we're definitely inspired by like we might even see some it's giving like we might see some Easter eggs of some other characters that we know and that are, you know, dear to us. So it'd be pretty cool to see how they how they go from with this one because like if I see Iron Giant Easter egg, I'm gonna Yeah, that's just gonna get me. So Nick: That'd be sick. That'd be sick. That'd be sick in some way. I mean, I Julian: I think there could be. I mean like it's the Nick: you know, yeah, I wouldn't is I mean, obviously these two aren't movies aren't associated in the same way, but like wouldn't it be cool if they did like in you know how in Hoppers they did that kind of they linked Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: like Hoppers to like all these other Pixar movies? If like they did something like that in this, would that would be really cool. Julian: Hey, So that being said, guys, we're gonna get into something we've all been waiting for. schedule release on this for console, November 19th, 2026. Everybody just prepare. Nobody's gonna be doing anything. The NFL is gonna be Nick: Mm-mm. Julian: down and the NBA is gonna be down. Everybody Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: wants to play this game. Even people who we're gonna be wanting to watch, even the college. Nick: There might be another government shutdown. Julian: They probably could, you know, knowing Trump. Like, what would he w do I have it in my bingo list for him and shutting the Trump the government down for Grand Theft Auto Six? Maybe. Maybe it's in my on my bingo card. But, you know, that being said, GTA six, this is, you know, including Vice City and Leonia or Leonida, however you say it. You know, playing on Leon, Leonida maybe, but The pronunciation at least. But the wildlife, there's supposed to be about 170 animal species. Hurricanes and tropical storms will occur, and there will be different, you know, side activities, which include not but not limited, to base jumping, billards, gyms, kayaking, mini golf, scuba diving, off street and off-road racing zones, zoos, jet skiing, and I'm pretty sure that you can go to the strip club. So that's gonna be, you know, something for people Nick: Mm. Julian: to that people are gonna be wanting to really get their hands on and you know, people have been waiting a long time. It's an open world game and you know, obviously, you know, basically it's gonna take I know like running, it'll take you like I wanna say close to an hour to cross the map or the whole map, maybe more. Yeah, like but driving Nick: That's crazy. That's insane. Julian: Yeah, like driving it might be like the cross map, it could be like thirty minutes or something like that. Twenty minutes maybe. But like depending on your car. But like, yeah. So we'll see. You know, I'm excited to see how that's gonna be, you know. There's gonna be, you know, the mini golfing and all that stuff, like air boating, Nick: Have you Julian: jet skiing, you know. And then you you get the full story along with the, you know, the online mode, but people are gonna be are not gonna be online. They're probably gonna be, you know, very How can I say it? They're gonna be very into the story first, and then they'll get online more than likely, or do both. But you know, I live, you know, I'm in Florida right now, so this is gonna be basically, you know, a bunch of beaches, you know, a bunch of internet stereotypes. There's gonna be some streamers in there. You might even get some streamers who you're gonna be able to. I think they might do streamer bounty missions at some point. That might be funny, that might be cool. Nick: Ooh, ooh, chill. Julian: Where you have to kidnap the streamer and do

something crazy, something like that. Nick: That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. Julian: So, but Nick, let me ask you this because just I, you know, just recently finished Wolf Green. There's been all their, you know, all this debate about if it's a good game. It's still a great game. Like nobody's telling you to get the, you know, deluxe most expensive one, but if you got the game in this regular version, it was perfectly fine. Even if you got the deluxe version, it was perfectly fine. I got the deluxe, I don't feel like I wasted my money. I had a great time, beat the game. I have new game plus and it opened up new things. And there's going to be some different enemies and different types of things for me if I play the new game plus. So, and there's different and where you weren't even unable to unlock these abilities or attributes until you beat the game. So they still left their there still left meat on the bone. So I'm going to go ahead and 100% the game and then go ahead and figure it out. My official time though on it was I would say 23 or 25 hours. So it's it took me about that time amount of time playing off and on throughout the day, throughout the work week. So for anyone who's in in that type of space where you want to, you know, play something and get it done, it it only took me about 25 hours. No, not even playing every day. So I think that's it's pretty good as far as you know how good you are. Like, you know, I did play on the hardest level. So you, you know, you you Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: have to be pretty good. You might take longer. So but that being said. Nick: Right. And I've I've heard a lot of Wolverine defense online too. Like, you know, like what you know, like what you're saying pretty much. It's just you know, it's it's it's not a perfect game. It's not the greatest game ever, but it's a good game. Like it's you know, it's a good, fun game. You know, it's what Julian: Right. Nick: what you would you would want at you know, at least a Wolverine Wolverine game to be. But er you know, every Julian: And there were some bugs. Yeah. Exactly. Nick: yeah, everything is gonna have its flaws, but you know, it's not a failure. Julian: Yeah, and there was a bug in the game in the beginning where I noticed like there was a tree you can you're supposed to slide down and there was a bug that kept you sliding in that moment. Instead of just sliding hit the ground, it just you were on Nick: really? Julian: the ground but perma sliding just for a little bit, like about two seconds, and then it'll let you go. But like Nick: Yeah. Julian: there was that and then people complained about the trail thing, but like I've only noticed the trail thing and then maybe the roots for the nightmare cabins. Like it was just to let you know it was in the area. Like The Nightmare Cabin, you can like you can literally do all of them if if you choose to. And help Nick: True. Julian: and almost one hundred percent the game on the first shot. But like the trails, like when he's smelling whiskey and smelling all the other stuff, like Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: unless he's tracking someone, the the the trail for the whiskey and stuff only came up if you were near the collectible, which was to me useful to try to help one hundred percent the game. But like, you know, I get it. You know, some people, you know, They they don't like it, but like it's okay. Like and it's not supposed to Nick: Yeah. And and the and they Julian: be a you know, a Dark Souls game where you're like it their boss fights and their combat, yes, like it wasn't repetitive to me. Like you can choose and mix mix and match all your abilities. It was just really up to how to you how you chose to play the game. Like you could have played it repetitively Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Julian: everybody else played it repetitively. Nick: Yeah, facts. And like 'cause I feel I feel like a lot of the people that were hating on it, like I feel like some of those people just were like they it looked like they were they had their dis mind made up from from the beginning. Like like I don't Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: know. Like I I I don't know what it is, but hey, as long as as long as we haven't fun when we play it, that's what that's what matters. That's what's that's that's the sub. Julian: And and keep this in mind, listeners. When you go looking for something, nine times out of ten, you're gonna find what you're looking for. That's just how things work. If you go into a situation of looking for problems, Nick: That's facts. Facts. Julian: you're gonna find Nick: You know. You already know. Words of wisdom by Jules the Sage. Julian: Appreciate it. Appreciate that. Nick: On to our next piece of news though. The main cast for DC's Dynamic Duo has been announced. We got four Julian: Ooh, please tell me. Nick: four castings for this. And before I say what the castings are, for anybody that doesn't know what dynamic duo is, it is an upcoming DC Else World, so you know, set outside of the DCU. it's an animated movie that's gonna be coming out in twenty twenty eight, September twenty second, twenty twenty eight. and it Julian: I don't know. Nick: explores the early friendship of Dick Grayson and Jason Todd as they navigate their dreams and deferring visions for the future, leading to the emergence of a new dynamic duo amidst challenges challenges to their bond. and the animation style is going to be stop motion like type. Like I don't know if it's gonna be Julian: Nice. Nick: like fully 100% or whatever, but it's gonna be like, yeah, like maybe like I guess that like Coraline kind of style of animation, maybe. like and yeah, and so yeah, yeah, Julian: snap. So like like the puppetry almost like a little bit, but like Nick: yeah. Cause what I remember when I first heard about it, I was like, huh? I was like, wait, they Jason Todd and and and Dick and like their dynamic Julian: Yeah, 'cause I think Nick: duo and Batman's not there. Like wait, what do you what

I'm confused? I'm gonna and and what do you mean they're gonna be puppets, huh? But Julian: Yeah, right. Nick: The more I hear about it, the more excited I get. And this this this is it is the same thing. So for the castings, we have as Dick Grayson, Mason Tames, who some of you like a lot of you probably know from from how to train your dragon as as hiccup. Julian: Mm. Nick: he was just in this the new movie Idiots with Dave Franco and O'Shea Jackson Jr. He's been he's been in a lot of stuff recently. Kid's hot right now. Kid's hot right now. Julian: Have you seen idiots? Nick: yeah, yeah. He was funny in it. I'm not gonna that like in my opinion, that might be like it's definitely the funniest role I've seen him in yet. Maybe it's Julian: Okay. Nick: it's either that or hiccup's the best role I've seen him in yet. So Yeah. Julian: I can see that. I can see that. Nick: But Nightwing, you know, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Logan Julian: I I'm always here for night wing. Nick: Yeah. And I mean I like you know, I like it. I I w I don't know. I don't know what I was imagining the night wing casting would be. And I this is just a voice role. So like at the end of the day Julian: Right. Yeah, 'cause I mean, Nick: I think he has the voice for it. So yeah, that's cool. Julian: yeah, c continue, 'cause like yeah, I I think it's you know, we have to keep this in mind when we're when we list these names is that these are all voice rolls. So these are all just their voices and we're gonna Nick: Right. But some some people have been speculating online that for just the the Dick Grayson and Jason Todd castings that they're gonna stick with that they could stick with these in the DCU. Which like I don't know where that's coming from. I don't know if there's any truth to that, but I've just been s seeing people say it on Twitter and stuff. but for Jason Julian: book James. If you need to if you need a Dick Grayson and you wanna make him, Nick: You need Julian: you know, black or something, I I I know two people who might who might be interested. I won't say no names though. Nick: you want to change the status quo of of the DCU. Julian: Not gonna lie, it would that would uproar the masses, but it would it would be insane. Nick: are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? They would kill us. They would come after us. James Gunn would be one my god, bruh. James Gunn would be the most hated person in Hollywood, bruh. Not not not really, but Jesus. Julian: But look, if you want to give a static shock, I mean Nick: See, that's that's more down our alley. Specifically, more Julian: Exactly. Or or Nick: the the more dreadheaded one to my right. But Julian: But thank you for that. But nah, what's the one dude who was wearing a black and red Batman suit? Do you know what I'm talking about? Wait, no, that was when Lucius Fo that was when Fox's Nick: Batman Beyond. what's his name yeah, Fox. What's his first name? yeah, Lucius's son. it's It's tough. Batwing. Batwing is is what they call him. but I can't remember his Julian: I forget his name. Yeah, it's his son. Which is kinda cool still. If you wanted to go that route. Batwing. Okay, that's kinda cool. Nick: first name. But But yeah, that's or just make the whole Bat Family black. Just do it. Just do it. You won't, James. You won't. Julian: Bruce Wayne included. Nick: Facts. That maybe that's why the Batman casting is taking so long because they're trying they're like, okay, we can't release this information unless we have this this whole shit figured out to a T. No, you know, no we're we can't miss here. We can't if we make the Bat Family black, we can't miss. Julian: Well, I'm pretty sure Batman is about to be public domain pretty soon. So pretty soon like anybody can can come up with any type of Bruce Wayne they wanna come up with. Nick: I mean, then it's it's it's inevitable. You might as well get ahead of it, D C. It Julian: Yeah. Nick: you might as well get ahead of it. Anyway, Julian: Go ahead. Go ahead and make the money off of it before we can. Nick: Exactly. But we don't wait too long. We might we might hop on it. We might take that take that opportunity from you. Julian: Right. We might take the idea. Nick: Yeah. And then you'll just be copying us. You don't wanna do that. Or you could just you could just hit us up. Or we could do both. Julian: Hope you guys hope hope our listeners love that in that inception moment. Nick: Hey, just wait on it. He'll figure it out. He'll figure it out. Julian: Somebody will hear it. Nick: But for the Jason Todd casting, we have Logan Kim. And I didn't recognize him at first based on his IMDB profile picture, 'cause he's like super young in the profile picture. But Jason, I don't have you seen the new the newer Ghostbusters movies, any of at all? Julian: The ones with all the with what's that one black actress, She's I can't remember her name. Nick: Wait, not the not the female Ghostbusters one, not that one. it's like with like the kid Julian: then the young kids ones. Nick: yeah, with the kids. Julian: I haven't seen but I know what they are. Nick: Okay. Damn. 'Cause tha that's the main thing that I know him from, I think. But he's like he plays one of the kids in that and like he's he was probably the funniest character in that to me. So like yeah, that's Logan Kim. Julian: And that's Logan Kim? Mm-hmm. Nick: And it's and but that the at least the one I saw was the first one and that was like years ago. Julian: Wait, was he in was he also in like one of those it movies? Nick: Think so. Here, I I got his Julian: Or the it show? Nick: I got I got his IMDB right here. Hold up, let me see. He was in Ghostbud the Ghostbusters movie. He was in one of the Walking Dead shows. He was in Kung Fu Panda 4. a small role in Kung Fu Panda 4. But yes, it just a lot yeah, that's pretty Julian: I'll know him from that. I I'll know the voice from there. Nick: much it though. Julian: Let me see. Okay, I got

him. No no Nick: hasn't been in a lot of stuff. Julian: no. I see him now. Yeah, no, I think I do remember him on the Ghostbusters afterlife thing. Wait, no, I did see Frozen Empire. So I I did see that one. Nick: Right? Right? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he yeah, he yeah. Julian: Yeah, so I I seen that one. I seen that one. I haven't seen Ghostbusters after life though. Nick: Me either. Me either. But Julian: It's pretty cool. Not gonna lie. Nick: but that yeah, I I've that's all I've seen of him, but I I know I liked him in that. So, you know, hopefully he does well. yeah. And then we got Lee Pace Julian: Gonna say. Nick: as Red Hood One, which I don't know what this whole Red Hood One, Red Hood Two situation going on is, but you might know Lee Julian: Maybe he gets older. Nick: Pace. I don't know. I mean may I I I don't know. I don't know. But you might know Lee Pace from Guardians of the Galaxy as Ronin or Invincible as Thrag himself. Yeah, we got thrag in this jump. Julian: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And you're telling me this is Jason Todd or this is Red this is Red Hood One? Nick: No, or this is Red Hood W so like it's from just based off this cast list, it seems like we're gonna get, you know, obviously the young kids and then are they gonna be dealing with this whole Red Hood One, Red Hood Two situation? Like, cause it there I don't think it's gonna be li I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I don't Julian: I Nick: know. Julian: cause I thought Okay. I I I don't that's good. Nick: We still don't know a lot. Julian: We don't yeah, so I I'm I'm away to to make any predictions on this one, but like I I like I like where we're going so far. Like this is really good so far. Because Thrag, just Nick: Nah, right. Cause yeah. We're literally y yeah, we're Julian: as a voice, he you know Nick: Yeah, just as a voice. Julian: that this character is going to do something vile. He's going to make us hurt by watching our favorite Nick: I mean, he's a red hood shit. Julian: person or or one of our favorite superheroes get hurt. I I think he's gonna beat The brakes off of somebody. Nick: I think there's a good chance. I think there's a good chance. Cause maybe Julian: yeah. Nick: it maybe the whole Red Hood one, two situation has something and like I don't know how much of this is from the like could be from the comics necessarily, but maybe some of their boat whole Red Hood situation has to do with is gonna influence like Jason Todd like becoming his own version of Red Hood, you know, so like Julian: Right. That's what I was thinking too. Like, you know, how does that how does that even work out? But September twenty second, twenty twenty twenty eight in theaters. And just before we get into the, you know, our our next short short news, I just wanted to also bring a breaking news in that I seen today. So we all know the obsession director and they've just Nick: Kane Parsons. Julian: Yes, yes. They just dropped their new the new date for his newest movie. May seventh, twenty twenty seven. And I think it's called Ain't No Ghost or When was it? Is it what's the movie called Nick? It's something with Ghost. Nick: I can't remember. Julian: It's something aren't any ghosts or I can't remember exact the exact title for the movie, but May seventh, twenty twenty seven is when we're getting that movie again. So we'll be able to go, you know, if you you really like that direction, right? That's what I said. That's why it's that's why I had to break it. I had to break it. And that's with Bloomhouse. Nick: That's fast. That's a fast turnaround from for my boys. Yeah. Damn. Okay. Okay, Kane. I see you getting to the money. Getting to the bread. Let's go. That's tough. Julian: And that's so that's gonna be another horror. Nick: That's tough. Julian: So I'm excited for that. We'll see how that goes. But that being said, Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: this looks like a perfect place for us to go ahead. Now we're gonna go ahead and let everybody know. Spoilers ahead. Nick: You have been warned by the voice in the clouds. Spoiler alert for Avengers Endgame Encore. Julian: You've been warned. So we've all know the end game, how the everything goes and happens. So we're not gonna bore you with that. We're gonna get straight to the meat and potatoes. So one continues the final scene and end game of Steve Steve and Peggy dancing until someone comes to the door. So in the final scene where they're dancing, which is what we've seen before, we don't see what happens after he gets his title dance. In the in the other in the other, in the first Endgame. In this scene, we get the T VA and it's Loki. And in and Loki is assembling now, is Loki assembling the Avengers or is it not really him? We don't know. You know, that's the that's to be decided. We don't know yet. What would you what do you think? Do you think this is Loki? Are are Loki the one who became, in my opinion, story storylord Loki? is it is that him or you know, who do we think it is? Nick: I don't Okay. Julian: And is R Loki running the TVA? Like is he sitting where he excuse me, he who remains sat and was it number five? Who Nick: Number five. Julian: the the black woman who became she was in centers. Nick: B fifteen. Julian: B fifteen, my fault. B fifteen, she was is she gonna be like where the I can't I'm blanket on that lady's name. Not Miss Minnes, but the the other lady who's in charge. Nick: The Black Lady Judge Renslayer Renslayer Julian: Yeah, the one Kang met, like at a certain point. Renslayer, that's what it is. So is she the new Renslayer and Loki is just he who remains, keeping everything, you know, controlled in there? Like how what Nick: I'd say I that's the best comparison, even though like he who remains in Renslayer we're you know, we're obviously like evil and shit. But like I Julian: Right. Nick: think that's that that essentially though, yeah, yeah, you're right. I think that Loki, you know, Loki is holding that you know, we

know he's holding all that shit together. and then It seemed like, you we saw her in Deadpool and Wolverine and she was, you know, she was heading it all, like, you know, just from the business standpoint. so so yeah, but okay, you asked, like, is it is it really is O Loki assembling the Avengers actually, or is it not really him? Like, I'm wondering the same thing because I I would think that he's so powerful that he could make a version of himself appear at Cap's door and be able to assemble the Avengers, right? But Julian: Like he projected himself, basically. That's what I'm thinking too. Nick: Yeah, they exactly because that's that's what Loki does and now he you he's the god of stories, he's super he's he's he's he's juiced up right now. But at the same time, could it be the opposite where like he's doing he's hayast put all his focus on holding the multiverse together? So he can't appear anywhere else and this like this is his cause I when I finished Loki season two when it came out and that seas that you know that that finale ended, I was like, okay, this is like the ultimate, like this is a perfect ending for Loki because it's like, yes, he saved the day, but he's also kind of like It like he did he's damned here. You know, he's damned to like to to do this because he can't he can't have a life, even though he he had collected all those friends throughout the two seasons and shit. He couldn't you know enjoy a life with those friends because he this was he was bore burdened with glorious purpose, right? So like exactly, so like I don't I don't know is he able to pull up and and show up at Cap's door like that? I I I want to say yes, I wanna hope so, but I'm just skeptical about it. I'm just Julian: Right. That's that's a good point. I agree there. So well, these are the Nick: But if I had to if I had to pick one yes or no, I'm gonna say yes, Loki is assembling the Avengers. And like he know obviously he's holding the multiverse, which means or okay, okay, okay. I'll get to okay. I'll I'll get to this connection once we get to the the the the next part or the yeah, the next part after that. Okay. So in the next post-credit scene, we see Bruce Banner recording a video from a bunker that he says is two miles underground. And this is following his Hulk out in brand new day. and just in the middle of the video log, out of nowhere, you know, we just hear we, you know, is it the video starts crackling, you know, we start hear hearing all this stuff. It gets the lights start flashing, we see green, and then doom appears, and just like he just he he disrespects him in the in the worst way. He says, Hello, Mr. Banner. Didn't say doctor. Didn't put the respect on his name of acknowledging his his his PhDs. Julian: Mr. Nick: Ridiculous disrespect. And then he just collects him and the Hulk because the Hulk, like you, you hear and see for a split second the Hulk tried to pop out and do something, but he got snatched anyway. And then you just see a green rune, you know, glowing left in the ground. what? Julian: Mm-hmm. A lot a lot variant symbol. Nick: Yes, yes. Like what that it that that was probably like the craziest one for me, in my opinion. Julian: Aim. Nick: But that leads me to ask you, why would Doom need banner and what other heroes could Doom possibly be collecting? Julian: Okay. So Spoilers again. Spoilers. For anybody who isn't reading the comic right now, there is we have answers. Now, that being said, I'll give Nick a chance to take his headset off. Nick: Wave your hands. Wave your hands when when you're done. When you're done Julian: Okay. Nick: talking about it. Julian: Alright guys. So that being said, Nick's now not listening. So what we do know is is that Namor and just from the comics, or the comic that came out that's supposed to be the source for this, we know Namor, we know, you know, Strange, we know like there is a cabal of people who will try to help Doom. And essentially, That's what's gonna happen because like as we get to our next final, you know, we get the our final end credit scene, we get Mobius and Obi in the T VA as they notice an incursion. So that being said, I'm gonna wait for Nick to come back in. And that's the end of his spoilers. So there will be no more spoiling of Doomsday from this point. But that technically is a Doomsday spoiler because that's kind of what their source material covered. Nick: Interesting, interesting. Julian: And I didn't reveal everybody who was on the team. I just revealed two people. Nick: True, true. Okay, okay, okay. Julian: Hulk being included, so technically three. Nick: Okay. I see. Okay. And we're gonna have to cause yeah, I I haven't read it because I you know, I'm I'm just big on like I don't want any type of anything spoiled for me. You know, just think 'cause obviously they couldn't they could barely take anything from the the story at the end of the day. We don't know, but like, you know, I just don't want any potentially major plot points to be spoiled for me ahead of time. That's just but that's just a personal thing. So like I'm interested to see after Doomsday comes out. jewels, because I'll I'll read it after that, but how you know, how much Julian: Okay. Perfect. Nick: w they actually took from it and how much they they leave. Julian: So this technically because I know you know what Doom doom taking banner could possibly mean without me having to spoil it. Can you Nick: Yeah. Julian: give me let's just let's just say a name, first name that comes to mind. Who do you think we may see that we've never seen in a movie, live action, nowhere? I don't even think we might have seen it in a cartoon yet. And if we did, it was like once or twice. Now, who do you think we've seen in games, but who do you think we may see. Which version of hope? Nick: Maestro maybe? Julian: The maestro is indeed who I think who I think. Nick: Okay, okay, okay Maestro man, I've always wanted them to do maestro in live action, bro. So I

don't I I I hope Julian: If we get Maestro Hulk, I think the fans are gonna be more than satisfied. Every Hulk fan there is. Because like technically, isn't he under the same umbrella? Who whose umbrella is he under? Because there's a reason why we can't get any Hulk standalones. That's right, universe. Nick: Universal. Universal yeah, has some weird ownership with the Hulk. So I we can't Julian: Which is just, you know, annoying. Nick: Yeah, but the next one that which I think okay, which I think ties the can tie back to the first one a little bit, right? So the next one shows Mobius and OB in the TVA as they you know, they're they're in that whole like that little TVA lobby thing with the big screen and they're looking Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: and they notice it on the screen there's an incur an incursion starts to happen. And one of the universes in the incur in that first incursion is Earth one zero zero zero five. Which is the X-Men universe, right? which l Julian: Right. Nick: that we learned about in Deadpool and Wolverine. So I Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: I reckon I didn't clock that immediately, but I recognized, you know, I know that universe. I can't I just can't remember exactly which one it is. And then right after that, all the other universes start having incursions. Like all like the all this stuff on the screen showing us that the multiverse is collapsing, right? So Julian: Which remove your headphones just real quick. For our people who do not care. That is the exact plot point in the book. It is exactly the same we're going incursions. So if you if you know you know, put it like that. Sorry, just had to had to leave that last little tidbit because literally like w I had some part of what I said was was like you saying what that was so that I can finish what I need to say. Because you I need to do yeah, yeah, yeah. So but 'cause Nick: okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay, but but Julian: like it's yeah. So without without the spoilers, you know, this is how we can Nick: I feel you. Yeah. Julian: do it. Nick: Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. but with that, so knowing like at with knowing that, going and going back to that first one with Loki and stuff, and we were wondering, is it really, really him? Can he really leave the tree? Da da da da. Like, is maybe because that happens, he like because like because the all the there's all these incursions happening and he can't control it, maybe He has to leave the tree because he can't. But you would think that if there's if it's if it's collapsing, then like he would be trying to keep it together in some way. But like how do you do that? Yeah, yeah. Maybe he can't Julian: But but what if he couldn't stop it? Right. You can't Nick: stop it and he's yeah, and he's like, okay, I gotta go and qu and and quickly get, you know, get help as quickly as possible. Like, you know, and then in anything's Julian: What if he tries to save them like in a arc situation where he's like, All right, just come to my planet of this Well, not planet, I guess, but like whoever Nick: Doom? Julian: no, well, we're not gonna get into that. But Nick: Okay. feel you. I feel you. I feel you. Julian: We're we're not gonna talk about that. But I think that Doom could do something like that. I think Loki also just me spitballing if they didn't go toward with the book and they wanted to stray somewhere and they're bringing Loki in storylord Loki. I think that either he could try to be bring people to the realm he sits in with the T VA as an arc. Type of situation. Now don't know if he's just gonna grab a whole bunch of random people, just open the gates, like you know, strange style, and just tell people to run through all over these different cities and they go to different places. But strange could also do that to evacuate people off planet if needed. So that being Nick: True, true, true. Julian: said, there's also those like options. But we're with these incursions and stuff like that. I think that we're gonna really that's where we're gonna see all of our cameos, get all of our people coming in. And whether they get killed or they don't get killed, I think it's gonna be cool whether like either way. Because all I Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: know is somebody we love is dying for sure. That's just happening. Like I Nick: yeah. yeah. Julian: know for a fact there are gonna be some people just b bent out of shape over the first twenty minutes, fifty minutes of this of this movie. So it's gonna be interesting. I'm gonna be bent out of shape, I'm not gonna lie. Nick: yeah, if yeah, if if what for real if what they're say if what I'm hearing in the streets is correct in terms of, you know, just these leaks and stuff, and I don't even listen for leaks like that, you know? But just for you know, from what I've yeah, sometimes they find you, exactly. Julian: sometimes they just find you. Sometimes you just step in a puddle. Nick: Yep, it right, and you get some ooh, I got some leak on me. You know what I'm saying? So like it from w if the if any of that is true, from what I've seen, then I'ma be I'm gonna be hurt. I'm gonna be hurtin'. Julian: yeah. So Nick: I'm gonna be hurting in that first thirty, but what's the tell us the last one, Jules? Julian: yeah, so is the last continues, which is the just the ding of the hammer at the very end of the end game credits and it cuts to Doom constructing his mash mask, much of like how Tony Stark constructed his almost one-to-one scene except Doom. Nick: Yup. d so is that them confirming do you think that there is going to be like a a connection? Julian: I think they're going with the the whole thing. I think like that almost confirmed it to when seen it. Like I'm like, okay, they're more than likely going with the Tony Stark variant because I think this is gonna be Howard Stark giving him up for adoption and him becoming doom. Yeah. Like Nick: I remember you saying that before, yeah, yeah. Julian: that that I I'm

almost positive this is how it goes because like literally there's no other Nick: Okay, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I've come around on that theory. I didn't like it at first, but I've come around on it. I just I just ultimately don't want him to be a variant just because I want this their whole move of bringing Robert Downey Jr. back to be solely based on, we know he can eat this up, and we need someone to play Dr. Doom who can Doom who can eat this up. That's what I want it to be more than anything. But if Julian: But the thing is is that I think he was Doom all like well, no. Like I forget which in certain in certain illustrations, like like they just like Doom is it's they it makes it you make it so hard. I can't even explain it. Doom is Doom takes on a God or a being and becomes that god or being. So like imagine imagine being like like imagine taking God's place. Nick: God. god. I think I okay, interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting. Okay. I th I said enough sad. Yeah. Julian: Enough said. But anyways, I think that this is a great time to segue into so we don't spoil everything. But Nick: Thanks. Julian: I think that there because you know if anybody if you're hip, everything I just said would be more will be more than enough. And if you don't know, you can easily look up what I said and probably figure it out. But nonetheless Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Julian: We don't wanna do that to you guys. This isn't that type of episode today. But Nick, w can you Nick: Facts, facts, facts. Julian: bring us into the next topic? I'm just gonna go to Nick: Yes. Julian: the bathroom real quick. Nick: yes, of course, of course. Okay, so Zach Kreger has told the Hollywood reporter that he once wrote a DC script for an unmade movie called Henchman. the st and this is this is really interesting. This is a really interesting story, and as we know, Zach Kregger is you know has i he's been hitting lately. He's his l last few movies, Resident Evil, banger, weapons, banger. Barbarian banger. So I don't hit him the fact that he was attached to a DC movie at all, you know, gets me excited. But the story would have followed a normal pharmacist that lived in Gotham who was accidentally sucked into the incredible power play between Batman and the Joker. and Zeggert's Zegger Kregger was talking to the Hollywood reporter and said, And he finds himself a very integral part of something. And so it's a weird movie. It's something living on the per periphery of all the stories of Gotham that we know of. And it's all and it's about some rando. Crager also confirmed that there is no movie in the works based on the script. My love of that script persists, but there's been no action. So you know, there's no version of that movie that's being made right now, but but you know, it was just a really cool concept because you know I feel like Gotham Is one of those cities that like there's so much shit that goes down, you kind of have to at some point explore, like you know, the story of the average man or the average person of of Gotham that's caught in the middle of that. So that and the fact that it would have been directed by him, Zach Kregger, Julian: Mm. Nick: him barbarian director, weapons directors, resident Julian: Mm. Mm-hmm. Nick: evil director, Zach, like bro, come on, that would have been heat. That would have been heat. You can't tell me that wouldn't have been heat. Like Julian: henchmen. Yeah, I think it and I'm assuming this is the the scary movie about like all the the henchmen and their Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like honestly, I didn't even think about it being like a scary movie, like or like a horror movie until you just said it. But like, of course, it's that Krager, so why wouldn't it be? And like, a horror movie with Batman, Batman's power struggle with the Joker in the background. Like, give it to me. Julian: I think that has to be unnamed, like an unknown actor. Like someone who like this is how he made a name for himself movie, is what this sounds like. Or you need to find someone who you're like, you know, nobody cares about because if he's a henchman, nobody cares about him. You care about the Joker and the Batman. So I think if Nick: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Julian: you start off like that and then let's say this guy killed it, or if you got yourself a big name, like I can't see Tom Cruise doing this. Like Tom Cruise being the Joker's henchman. Come on. That doesn't even sound right. So it was Nick: No, no, no. I mean no. No nobody would be able to would be able to see past that. Julian: it's not believable. It's Tom Cruise. And so like that's why I think it has to be someone who's very n has not been seen by our eyes a lot that would be able Nick: Mm. Julian: to do this movie the most justice because then you'll eventually you you start the movie out not giving any crap about him and then eventually do. So I think that's That would be a good way to you know. Nick: This is a weird I don't know why I got I I I got this casting for this. That I like cause I don't do I don't know his work like that, but he Julian: Okay. Nick: just popped into my head for this. Christopher Abbott, who they just cast to play Professor X. Like, he y he has the face, I feel like, like he has some like he has like some like innocent some like innocent looking eyes or like some eyes that he can like do a lot of stuff with. But but also he can get like 'cause he was in this like Wolf the Wolfman movie. He can get like kind of like Yeah, he can get kinda Julian: Okay, yeah, I can see this. I can see this. Nick: you know, a great like I don't know, he can play with it a lot. He can play with like different, you know, levels of emotion, I think. So that'd be cool. I but that Julian: Mm. Nick: was just a random pull. I was just thinking off off the top of my head. But Julian: I kinda like that though. I kinda like it. I kinda like it. I g I you know what? I'm Nick: Maybe, maybe. Julian: here for this. I like it. Nick: Yeah.

But unfortunately it's in the trash. It's no longer happening unless, you know, Zack Krager strikes up another deal with D C sometime in the future. Yeah. James, you gotta Julian: All right, James. Come on, guy. I'm not gonna I I usually call you Mr. Gunn, but let me address you as James today. Nick: Like come on, you gotta lock that down. Julian: You're either gonna give a static shock or you're gonna do this movie. Or both. Nick: Right. Give me Julian: But you're not gonna not do neither. You know why? Nick: Come on now. Please. Julian: Because you're not Blanking again, Disney CEO. Nick: Bob Iger. Julian: Mm okay. Marble. Nick: Kevin Feige, Kevin Feige. Julian: You're not Kevin Feige, James Gunn. You're not gonna mess with us like that. You're not gonna you're not gonna put all these these these static comic Nick: He said, let me reach. Let me let me give you the visual. Julian: You're not gonna put all these static comics and not give us this. We want this. Nick: We need it. We need it. The same way that you that you know that they gave Blue Beetle a chance, and now Blue Beetle's getting another chance. Julian: Why come on. And I'm sorry. Blue Beetle was a okay movie. But we need static. Like, I'm sorry, you're not gonna Nick: The people the people need static. Julian: and it needs to be a standalone. Especially at times right the time right now. You know you Nick: Thanks. Julian: how easily you could do his backstory based off of how what's going on today. There's all different Nick: Not for real. Julian: types of sabotage and stuff going on for the rail for the railways, the people, you know, at some point. in the past two years. So like it would hit for the Big Bang to happen that way. Sorry for the shaking of my desk. I didn't mean to hit my hand so hard, but Nick: Straight. Straight. Julian: this one this one turned me up a little bit, but I just Nick: We feel we feel for static round here. We feel for static. I Julian: Yeah. Nick: think I think that would be a great show, honestly. I think it's st Julian: I think I just decided what my costume's gonna be. Nick: There you go. How we got Halloween a month away. Come on now. Come on. I gotta. Julian: I I think I have to go hard with the static cosplay just Nick: Hey, the dreads are the the dreads are the proper length. You gotta take advantage of it while you can because they just gon' keep growing. They just gon' keep growing. Julian: Exactly, then it'll be a little too much. Nick: But what No, or you could I mean at that point if if they get too long, you could be future static 'cause future static had the long jumps. Had the long jumps. Julian: Hmm. You know what? Either of these can work. I'm I'm looking at some stuff. Wait a minute. But anyways, continue. Continue. Nick: He said, Ooh, I like that. But all right, take us take us home with our last piece of news here. Julian: yeah. So we get we're gonna have the now this is I don't know if this is this is not a you know I don't know if

this is what the official episode name is, but this is Star Wars episode Nick: Probably in a Julian: 10 Skywalker Saga. Oliver Star Wars fans, yes, I know. Calm down, calm down, calm down, quiet down, guys. Very loud in the headphones. So that being said, this is intended to be getting to be the beginning of a new trilogy in the Skywalker saga. Watts previously directed the Tom Holland Spider Man trilogy. So, you know, I think personally based off how those go how those went, I think this could be really good. I think this means we could be getting a young somebody. Like I don't think maybe this is Ray training someone. Nick: Mm. Maybe, yeah, facts, facts. Julian: Or or or or we pick up with a different Jedi, maybe someone who survived, Order sixty six, older, who was young, Nick: Mm. Julian: Ahsoka. Nick: Mm, I mean but this is gonna be in the f Julian: Mm. Nick: this is gonna be I this g I mean yeah 'cause Ahsoka could be could still be alive in in the Julian: That's why I said old. Nick: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Ooh, yeah, yeah. And now that I think about it, John Waltz also directed or like produced Skeleton Crew. Julian: Mm. Okay, see? Nick: So he's already, he's used to working with kids and he's used to working in Star Wars. Already, you know, he's got the he's got his little inaugural credit under his belt. They gave him a little show. They said, all right, now we're gonna give we we gonna give you an a movie. See if you could if you could put this franchise in the right direction. So hey, I think it could be good. I think it could be good, but I didn't know they were gonna I didn't know they were gonna continue the Skywalker saga this soon. I'm happy about it. I know there's a lot of Star Wars haters out there, Skywalker sequel haters out there, but it ain't gonna be me unless it's Rise of Skywalker. That movie sucks. Julian: Ha Nick: But it ain't gonna be me for the other two. yeah, I'll take I I'll take any I'll take any any more Ray content we can get. you know, so let's go. Let's go. Julian: Okay, understood, understood. I I I I totally feel you there. I I feel the pain. I feel your feel I feel the pressure in your palms there, sir. Nick: But all right, that that Julian: That was it was worth it. Mm. Nick: That is our news for today, which is gonna bring us to our discussion, our main discussion for the day. Lanterns episode seven, the Jordan Boys Legacy. So Julian: yeah, this is gonna be a good one. And for everybody who has not seen the episode, spoilers Spoilers and No, I don't like Nick: Yeah. Julian: it either. Spoilers Nick: Pull the head! Julian: spoilers Nick: Spoilers on the starboard bow. so this episode, this I the I thought this episode was really good. Really, really good, really like good character like development stuff because we find there's a lot of stuff I feel like that happens Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: with Jordan, I mean with Hal and John that has kind of been like holding their relationship back a little bit throughout

the rest of the show, which like has been has made for like great TV, but like it's fine it's good that we finally move forward with some of that stuff a little bit. But so and we've that kind of starts with in the beginning of the episode when we when we get a little bit of of how's you know origin, his history into his childhood. we see we get a fle we see how as a kid showing his relationship with his father. we ended end up finding out you know committed suicide. and you know they have we we you know Julian: That was crazy, man. Nick: we that was crazy. I was not expecting that. Cause like we see in the first Julian: I was not Nick: scene we see, Hal's getting in trouble because he fought his whole baseball team. He went one v one Julian: wild. Nick: versus whole baseball team because coach took him out when he was about to he he was two he was what two pit two pitches away, two strikes away. Or yeah two outs away from a Julian: He he was a out away. Yeah, two strikes away from a perfect game. Nick: Yeah, from a perfect game. And like and and and and his dad was just coming at was almost about to come at the coach like, bro, what are you doing? Like, what are you why would you do that? Like he was he had his son's back. He was in there. Julian: He did though. I'm not gonna lie. He really did. He did step for his son in that moment, even though arguably, all right, kid, put give come on. But, you know, like for if you're a green lantern, hey, maybe that's good quality. Nick: Alright kid, come on. Alright, coach, come on. What do you mean he was too hit he was two outs away? What do you mean and you took him out? I don't care. I don't care about the mother kids. My kid if my kid's about to throw a perfect game a perfect game? Julian: Okay, okay, okay. You you're right. I I'll I'll I'll backtrack. No, no, no. Nick: No, no, no, I mean I'm I'm I'm I'm partially kidding. Julian: No, no, no, it's okay. I'll backtrack. Stand on it. I'll backtrack because like like I'll say this. A perfect being like this being like if this was like, you know a non-important game and he's not pitching a perfect game all right dude if this is playoffs this is clear your best pitcher now whether you won the game or not I can still feel his anger like yo let me throw my perfect game in the playoffs like but if this is just a regular game nothing on the line let little Timothy get in and play. His mom came to watch. Nick: No, you're right. Yeah, you f you you're right. You're right. His mom his mom Julian: I'm sorry you didn't get to throw the last two pitches. Nick: His mom got off her her her second shift of the day to come see this game and you and you ain't gonna let him play. So fuck this howl, kid. Julian: Hey, I I I wouldn't not it's it's not after the kids. It's more so like, hey, yeah, you know Nick: No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm ex I'm exaggerating. Julian: of course, of course, of course. But like I mean, but how like, you know, the pain that he shared, pain

he received, pain that they passed down to each other in his family, the Jordan's boy legacy, the pain, the pain, the legacy of that pain, the the burden, the weight of that pain, you know. It was it made me think like, mm. Could we be getting that comic book? Could that be the thing that happened? Because it is canon that in comics that he did kill himself at some point. Like, you know, it's canon. Nick: Yeah, and this, yeah, and I think you talked about it last week too. Like you you thought you like when we were just talking about who could who could have done it, you were saying that you thought that that he might, you know, that he might have done it himself, but you know, you weren't really sure. and like Julian: Right. Nick: now I feel like now more than ever they're kind of like dangling that option in our faces like his dad did it. Julian: What is it the misdirection? Nick: No, no, no I th I don't I don't necessarily think that that's what happened, but like before this episode I Julian: No, is it is it the the Nick: was I wasn't even thinking about thinking that he would do that. But now after this one Julian: Right. Nick: it's more it's more in my head because I'm like, okay, you know, he does he has been living with that kind of in his, you know, peripheral or in this rear view the whole time. Julian: And and he had John go to his safe after everything. He gave him the key. Nick: Facts? No, he did. He did. And that was Julian: So w that's that's Nick: Mm. Mm. I don't know. I don't I really d I don't know what's I don't know what's going on here, bro. I really don't know what's going on here. But God. but let I I let's Julian: Am I frozen? Nick: we'll just keep we'll just keep talking about it. We'll see see if we get to the bottom of it, as we keep going. But but then yeah, we get we get John back with the hologram and they're trying to s you know, they're trying to figure out who killed how, they're trying to solve his murder. And this is remember, this is the how from 10 years ago, the backup from 10 years ago. So like he's way less jaded, you know, like way more of like Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: who how was as a Green Lantern versus who he is now after all this like shit that he's seen and been through. And he's more, you know, he's just more overall like optimistic and stuff. So inherently, because of that, him him and John's relationship, Julian: Life hasn't kicked the crap out of him yet. Nick: exactly, exactly. He's been through some shit, but he hasn't been he hasn't been through Some shit. You know what mean? Exact exactly. He he doesn't know. He doesn't know. But Julian: He hasn't been truly tested. Exactly. He hasn't truly been tested. He don't he doesn't know. And Nick: yeah. But that but yeah, they that Julian: I think it's gonna be interesting how they do that. Nick: how they do what? Julian: how they're gonna tie this up because like either I think either we're gonna see a colored ring we're gonna know figure out that how killed himself also while we're talking about his death. I stood me and Mogul stood right here. Me and Mogo stood right here. Mogul's a damn planet. Nick: Bro, bro, bro, bro. That scene was so funny to me. That was so I mean and Julian: I I Nick: hey, you've been talking about the possibility of MOGO from like episode one or two. So like Julian: If we get Mogo, I'm gonna be so happy. I I I'm gonna be the happiest person. Nick: Yeah, and because here's the thing, exactly. Like, may okay, j the only thing that makes me think that we won't is just cause this show is so grounded. So like there would literally have to be a reason for Mogo to either show Julian: No who it Nick: up or us to go to Mogo. Julian: Like literally it would have to be Noah is like Noah Noah's a manhunter and he's like impregnated all these women in town and like he's now they're manhunters and like Mogo Nick: But think about it. Julian: pulls up and just sucks them off the planet. Like that's the only reason I see Mogo coming into the to this next episode. And and just so that everybody else knows, I don't think that is happening. I think that is like a three percent chance. Nick: True. But I we have to remember also that Zoe couldn't I don't think the Manhunters could I don't think the Manhunters could conceive with them because she didn't conceive with Bull with what's isn't it with Macon and then when the dude came back and like you know was questioning Macon when he thought, you know, he was seeing if she he was the manhunter, he was like, Remember, you know, the like the child we had, like da da da da and he was like, We couldn't conceive, da da da da da da. So I don't Julian: Yeah, that's true. Nick: I don't know if they can't conceive with anybody or what. Julian: I don't think he is a manhunter, but if there's something wrong with him. He's weird. Put it like that. But maybe he's not weird. Maybe he's not. Maybe I'm weird for thinking he's weird. Nick: Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Something is off. Some no no no let's nah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. Because something is off about this kid Noah and maybe I'm just I'm just not like like Maybe we're just looking for answers in the wrong places just because he's a nice kid. But like, I'm sorry, y'all. This show hasn't given me a reason Julian: Also Nick: to believe that anybody can just be nice without having ulterior motives. Especially when his grandmother is known for her tactics being okay, being cool with everybody, putting everybody on, getting close with everybody, just so she can fucking control you. So like I But my fault. Keep going. I got it. Intense. Julian: Okay. No no notice that I agree. I agree. Because what I was gonna say is to add to that is that We like they put like i I wouldn't be suggest suspecting any of this unless unless she Like the only reason I I suspect this is because I think 'cause she said, Remember everything I taught you. Now, that could have just been very, you know, nice

and meant for him. So he can have that. But like to me, I just don't see them wrapping up the end of this season without a bang. And I think the bang has to be, there's more manhunter stuff. Psych knows a manhunter or Or we get a an at the you know, atrocitous or Anton becomes atrocitous or whatever. Like I I needed to see a color ring because either Sinestro creates a yellow ring and that's our finale or he's a manhunter. Yeah, I think those are our two options. Nick: Okay, I have a Okay. I have theories. Okay. But if I think that it's more likely I think there's still a possibility, no, it could be a manhunter, but I don't know how that would work because we know his biological mother is what's her name. Julian: They would have to explain all that. Nick: Yeah, they would have to explain that in some way. And so I don't Julian: Borr nah, dude wouldn't be the man hunter. Not his dad. Nick: Nah, 'cause like he was already born before like they linked up, right? Like 'cause that's not his mom, I don't think. but Julian: Right. Right. Exactly. Okay, I hope. Nick: but I could see Noah, like she said, remember what I taught you. Like, maybe she literally taught him like the ways of the manhunter, and like maybe like has some stored away, had some stored away tech or like or what because you know she was she was tapped in, bro. She was tapped in with all of Rushville, she was tapped in with that dude, you know, the dude in the lab that she had, you know, be her decoy and everything. So like she had Th there was definitely stuff that like he could access that was hers after she died. And so Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: I'm thinking something with that is going on and like he's executing some plan of hers or like some plan that was made possible because of the tools Julian: Mm. Nick: that she gave him or something. but in terms of the yellow ring, I saw this is I I'm not gonna take ownership for this theory. I saw on Twitter, but it was like Sinestro creates a yellow ring. And then j and then gives it to John like for some r or like John takes it or something and like Sinestro thinks that it's gonna like corrupt him or whatever and he turns it green because he's got that he's got that dog in him. He's got that natural connection to the green. Julian: At willpower. Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Let me think. I can see that because like in the comics, for example, like in well that was Injustice. So in the Injustice comics, that's like the injustice Superman we see that takes over the world. In that Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: comic book, in that comic, we didn't see this, but in this or maybe we did, but in that comic, Sinestro ends up No, we definitely did see this. Like a long story short, Soups gets a yellow ring. And ca and also Hal got a yellow ring because The Guardians pulled up because Hal couldn't like didn't do anything to stop Superman and he was like playing Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: both sides. The Guardians stripped him of his ring, like mid flight, just yanked it off his hand. He had his girl with him, so they both fall out the air. And then Sinestra took advantage of that. Like, hey How take the ring, man. Save your girl. And yeah, that's what happened. Nick: Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's what went out. Julian: Yeah, like he he saved his girl. He's like, All right, damn and s I've never seen Sinestra look so joyous. Nick: Damn, I mean Sinestro Sinestro out here pulling, you know, he from the from the second we saw him on screen in the early early in the season, he's pulling strings. Like he's, you know, he's you know, he's trying to like but what we still have some unanswered questions in terms of Sinestro. I know we're kinda hopping around here, but Sinestro, we still don't know how who broke him out of prison, right? And how he got to this planet that we found we we f we find Julian: Look man. Nick: him on at the end. Julian: That's why I'm like, is this the Manhunter clone? Was this the was this an Anton clone? Like how deep does this go? Because I like not Nick: Anton clone. What do you mean? Julian: like not an Anton clone, an Anton alien that like morphed into a human. Or maybe they just look like that. I'm not sure. Nick: That morphed into a human to kill Hal or morphed into a human to break out Sinestro Julian: To p Nick: or something? Julian: n or I don't know. 'Cause like that's the thing. It's like Nick: Mm. Julian: who depending on who killed how will depend on who broke out the Sinestro. Nick: True. I mean true. Yeah, those two things have Julian: I don't know. What if it was Guy Gardner? Nick: to be related in some way. I don't know. Nah, guys guys too much of a you know like he Julian: Yeah, he yeah, he's too much guy. You're right. He's too much of a he's too much guy. Nick: yeah, he got no reason to I don't know. I don't know. His ambitions start and end with I feel like being like that on earth. But I mean ma I maybe not not I don't know. That's a that's an overstatement. That's an overstatement. But Anyway, I don't know. I don't know what because like I I just don't know why he's there. Like that's so like when I when I I saw that hooded dude at the end and like that then they took the hood off and they find out tonight. I was like, wait, what? Huh? Julian: Mm. Nick: What is he doing there? Like and I just but I just know we're gonna get some good shit next episode. I hate that it's the finale. I hate that Julian: dude. Me too. Nick: it's the finale. Julian: It's the worst, dude. Nick: Like this has probably been one of the like most like kind of monoculture. I mean, I wouldn't even say monoculture. That's that's that's a stretch. But like this has been one of the biggest TV shows in terms of like people following and like talking about it and stuff. like probably may maybe all year. Like we at least one of the top ones all year. Like up there with like Invincible and and stuff like that. so I'm gonna miss it. I'm really gonna miss it. Julian: Me too. I think they when they

come out a new one though, it's gonna be like people are gonna go through a period of withdrawal. And then as soon as they hear it again, it's gonna be all over the socials again. It's it's just gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna look forward to this one for however long they keep it going. And I hopefully in mana tomorrow, we get Jon Stewart. Because I want Jon Stewart Nick: for sure. For sure. But hey, we Yep. Yep. I mean we know we're getting them in management. Julian: to become to say the oath and become a Green Lantern. That's what I want at the end of this. Nick: Yeah. I think we're getting that. Okay, yeah. Do you think we're getting that in the finale? I'm gonna disagree with you. I think yes. I Julian: Hopefully. Nick: think yes. This is this is okay. This may I don't know I I'm not saying this to change your mind. Cause this is just like just just something I saw that like kind of made me lean in that direction. But I Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: I I will say, even without knowing this, I still thought that. But I saw on Twitter on the DC shop, they added a Green Lantern hoodie, right? And personally, this okay, this is all just show this the design of the hoodie. It's mostly black. The hood is green and then the sleeves are like of like green, like kind of faded on the shoulders. So it's kind of like it looks like the Jon Stewart like animated green outfit fit, except it's like you know, it's faded and quit the colors are cooler and shit. Julian: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Nick: And but except the only the thing I dislike about it personally, and then obviously, or yeah, it has the lantern's logo in the middle. But the thing I personally dislike about it is it says on the sleeves in in darkest yeah, it says in darkest day. instead of in blackest day, but it's like in darkest day, in in brightest night, or wait. You know what I mean. You did it says the thing and Julian: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick: it has the oath on the sleeves and I don't like the I don't like having the words on the sleeves like that. But otherwise other Julian: That's right. That's right. Nick: than that it looks tough. But what that literally just seeing that I was like, yo, why would they put that in there if he's not gonna suit up by the like like by the end of Julian: Bro, that's Nick: the like they put that in there this week. They could have put that in there before the season even started. Julian: Okay. So so then but then there that would mean there would have to be a reason for him to suit up. Nick: You're right. Julian: All right, hold on. I think I gotta walk I gotta call. I gotta I gotta guess. My guess is this. We never seen no, Anton blew himself up, so he's gone. So That was it. Nick: No is what? Julian: What if Noah killed Hal? Nick: But how do what it w And he killed how? Julian: 'Cause it would have had to be someone he trusted. Nick: That is a good connection because I've been I low-key clocked how like John and him have a good like they're cool. Like they have a good little relationship going. And like that's a little that's a little familiar, ain't it? Like obviously obviously he's not about to do nothing, you know, nothing crazy. But like it's a little it's a little familiar in terms of just like the Julian: I I just wonder. I wonder. I wonder how how it's gonna work out. Because either because like either the guardians are gonna pull up and try to take the ring or guy's gonna try to take the ring. Something's gonna happen. That's gonna cause something. Because how how else do will he suit up? Nick: I in my head I think I think I think Sinestro and his bluff and or Sinestro and his words, whether it's bluff or whether it's truth, are enough of a threat to potential like like he's gonna s he's gonna drop something on them, whether it's about how he escaped or whether it's about how how died or whether it's about something that that is going to take place. He's gonna drop something on them, I feel like, that is gonna raise the stakes a little bit and it's gonna change things. And That in through that opportunity, maybe he might have to put on the ring r. But I feel like more, I feel like more is gonna have to go down for him to put on the ring and say the oath and suit up. So I don't I don't know. That's just I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But I love that it's got it's got we've got disc we've got actual discourse here. We've got like, you know, we're both on on different sides of it. You know, it could go either way. It could go neither way. Like I Julian: Okay. Nick: I don't know. I don't know. But Yeah, anything else you wanna you wanna add? About the episode. Julian: I think that overall that their bonding was really nice over you know, over their fathers. Especially like that Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: scene where John was gonna kill himself from the fear stuff. Kinda reminded me of like Scarecrow's fear talks in a bit. and then the Nick: That's, that's Julian: ring, like the ring having con the construct having s you know, solidness to be able to go and help him was pretty cool. So I really liked all that. I really like how they played Sinestro, punched him in the face. And I also what I don't understand though is why Sinestro didn't recognize Nice how. Or did he? Nick: I think he did, but he did 'cause the what the only Julian: So was he actually gonna cut Hal's throat? Nick: Or maybe I don't know, maybe I don't know. Julian: And does it or does he know how? Does he even know how's dead? Nick: Maybe he doesn't. He might he might not. And you know, obviously, like I don't think he would clock that house like way younger just from like seeing him in a cave and then trying to jump up behind him and all that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. I just there's Julian: That's good question. So Nick: just so many. I'm like it's n it's not like too many unanswered questions to where I'm concerned, to where I'm like, you know, we're gonna, you know, I'm

worried about if they're gonna wrap all this up. But it's just all the unanswered questions that there are are like Hard hitting ones to where like I need I just need to know. I need to know what happens. So Julian: You need to know how this ends. Nick: yeah, yeah. But but yeah, great stuff. or I guess yeah, the last thing I want to say too is just you know, it's pretty much say speaking to the same thing you said about Hal and John's relationship in this, and like you know, through their fathers and everything, is like they Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: like we saw them actually together, you know, like with Living and Breathing Hal for like what six episodes, and they Julian: Yeah. Nick: you know, kind of got closer toward the end of that for real a little bit. And in this episode, they probably make more ground in their relationship with, you know, fake or or not fake how but like, you know, ten years ago hologram than you know ac with him actually telling him about what happened with his father and then, you know, John like r accepting that and then them, you know, going to the other planet and seeing him getting exposed to the gas and the rain and and and having that moment where he you know like where he almost shoots himself and he admits the stuff to to Hal about his father. So it's just like they're actually growing together and it's not even the real how. So it's like I don't know. I Julian: Literally. Nick: just hope in some way the real how comes back. I don't know. Maybe I'm asking too much, but It's good stuff. It's good stuff. Julian: I think that it's it's very Nick: but Julian: interesting though. Nick: Very interesting. What else are you Julian: It's it's it's very interesting. Nick: excited about, Jules, that you that is coming out or that you have watched? Julian: So I started Unibomber, got like fifty minutes left. Me and Fran stopped started last night, you know, put a put a pin in it went done. But very good movie for anybody who doesn't know yet. But it's to me looks great personally. I have no complaints. I have like only praises to all the actors and actresses. I like how they're starting the story. I like how they're building the beef between certain agents. I I think everything is going great because I feel like it was indicative of how, you know, it actually probably kinda went down where someone's like, we're not listening to them, why will we listen to them? And then it's like, well they were right for like a year ago and then like more people died because, you know, you could It's like, Nick: Hey when that happens. Julian: Right. It's just like, yes, learn your lesson through through people having to suffer. And it's very, very, very like they hit very hard. And then I'm also excited for your mother, your mother, your mother. I think that it'll be very good too. So but yeah, what about you? What are you excited for? Nick: there's there's there's some stuff coming there's you know, there's other stuff coming. Okay, okay, okay. Actually, no, okay, yeah. I'm excited obviously I'm excited for your mother, your mother, mother. We've been talking about that one for a long time. gotta see what Julian: Yeah, we can we can talk that as both of us. Nick: Yeah, yeah. Definitely like we you know, we need to see what Blade could have looked like, like in some way. Yeah. Julian: what we what we what we could have what we could have gotten. Nick: And and aside from that the trailer is i is just great. Like it looks really good. So, you know, we're excited for that. But I'm also very interested to see how this whole reception with Digger turns out with Tom Cruise in Digger. Be because Julian: Yo, wait. I sh I should have put that down because last time I went to the movies I seen that, like the the another trailer, and I was like, Digger's gonna be nuts. He was like he Nick: Bro Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro. Julian: was Tom Cruise was at the he was at their the premiere or whatever it was, like and two hours early than he was supposed to be, and he gave like one-on-ones, greeted everybody, gave like minutes, two-minute one-on-one interactions. It was really nice. Extremely Tom Cruise. Extremely Tom Cruise. Nick: Very Tom Cruise. Very Tom Cruise. but yeah, cause like so from the trailer, like it's one of those movies where I'm like, okay, this could either be shit or it could it could be really good, right? And so Julian: Right. Nick: there's that, and then like yesterday they dropped the dr the the Rotten Tomato critic score dropped and it was like a forty seven percent, right? So Julian: Right. Nick: it lo obviously it's not good, but since then It's risen to like a fifty-four. And like obviously that's not a lot. It's still low, but like it's rising and it's rising on letterbox as well. Like it was at a 3.4. Julian: Okay. Nick: Now it's at a 3.7 or something on letterbox. So like Julian: Okay. Okay. Nick: it just like it's very, very divided reception, which like I makes me just want to get my hands on it and just see what I think about it. Because like I don't know. I could I I could love it. I could love it. Like I don't I don't know. I don't know. But I I'm at least Julian: Right. Okay. Nick: interested to see. So like I'm excited about that, but Julian: I'm excited to see too. Like I think it's gonna be it's gonna be cool. Like the way however they choose to do it, whatever happens, it this is going to be very good. Like they're they're not gonna they can't mess it up. I I see very good things coming Nick: Right. I hope so. I hope so. But all right. Take us home. Julian: That being said, guys, we've you know, we've talked about a lot of things. Make sure you go here see, you know, watch in November eighteenth, go see Madden. we gotta make sure you go if you, you know, wanna watch the trailer again, Ray Gun. And then keep your eyes open for GTA six because I guarantee you your boyfriend, if you're a girl or a woman listening, he's gonna be on to it. And heck man, your girlfriend might even wanna play too. So, you know, and and you know Nick: Nobody's safe. Julian: Don't get yourself in trouble though with your other game girlfriend that you're gonna have. But you know, then the deck Nick: yeah, 'cause you gotta cause you gotta you gotta keep up your game relationship. That is going to Julian: Yeah, you have to keep up your game relationship. Nick: cause fights. I'm calling it right now. Like Julian: they're going to be marital true problems about how did you treat her better than you treat me? Nick: So you telling me you wash the dishes for her every single day but you can't you Julian: You telling me that that you can do this in the game, but you can't, you know to do it in the game, but you don't know to do it here? it's gonna go nuts. So, and then we had everybody, you know, all of our cast things are updates, then we have the end game stuff. So make sure you guys go ahead, rewatch, go ahead and get another, you know, some more popcorn and go get back to your theater and make sure you get us at concession stand podcast 11 on YouTube, concession stand podcast on TikTok, and then on Apple and Spotify, just concession stand. But a space, that's it. But thank you guys. Thanks for listening and you guys have a great and wonderful rest of your weekend. Nick: Peace. Julian: Peace.