Full Transcript for Greg Daniels

who you know there's just layers of the real one 82 00:03:48.870 --> 00:03:52.150 there's layers of crud like those dishes that are wrapped 83 00:03:52.189 --> 00:03:55.469 in bacon i'm a child and then there's just layers 84 00:03:55.530 --> 00:04:00.659 and layers of um high fatty uh meat surrounding the 85 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.159 the inner child. 86 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:03.560 I was It's weird. 87 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.669 The analogy I thought of was how Superman is Superman 88 00:04:06.710 --> 00:04:09.150 and then Clark Kent is who he pretends to be. 89 00:04:09.610 --> 00:04:10.409 That's what I was. 90 00:04:10.310 --> 00:04:11.810 Thinking more along the lines of. I like that better 91 00:04:11.830 --> 00:04:12.310 than Bacon. 92 00:04:12.569 --> 00:04:13.879 No, I think Bacon's more apt. 93 00:04:14.289 --> 00:04:16.089 So what happened? You were there and they were quiet. 94 00:04:16.110 --> 00:04:17.889 They lost their minds when they saw you. 95 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:19.490 Because I'm like a parade float. 96 00:04:19.629 --> 00:04:22.370 You come in and you're immediately just like. 97 00:04:23.290 --> 00:04:26.329 Going at like just going at it you're going crazy 98 00:04:26.490 --> 00:04:28.430 and then they feed off that energy and then it 99 00:04:28.449 --> 00:04:29.860 just turns into it we're. 100 00:04:29.750 --> 00:04:33.660 Both chasing each other around um yeah i'm running upstairs 101 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.800 they're chasing me and then i'm they come running back 102 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:38.819 downstairs and i'm chasing them yeah uh it was really 103 00:04:38.939 --> 00:04:41.750 fun to have them around and the only thing i 104 00:04:41.810 --> 00:04:44.310 couldn't do is i try to get them to freeze 105 00:04:44.329 --> 00:04:47.069 like okay everybody freeze yeah and mikey won't do it 106 00:04:47.230 --> 00:04:47.750 mikey has a. 107 00:04:47.750 --> 00:04:50.810 Problem with authority I don't know where he gets it from. 108 00:04:51.100 --> 00:04:52.899 I really don't know where he gets it from. 109 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:54.680 It was so funny because I'd say, no, guys. And 110 00:04:54.699 --> 00:04:55.879 then when I do this, we all freeze. And I 111 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.379 would freeze, too. Yeah. And he just won't freeze. No, 112 00:04:59.420 --> 00:04:59.800 he won't. 113 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:01.910 He won't listen to you. And then he'll like do it. 114 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.540 He's funny. And I'm like, it's not funny. You're not listening. Like, 115 00:05:05.579 --> 00:05:07.639 it's just not. It's you have to stop. 116 00:05:07.860 --> 00:05:08.699 Right. 117 00:05:08.930 --> 00:05:11.110 Do you see yourself in a much better tone? Do 118 00:05:11.129 --> 00:05:12.790 you see yourself in him? 119 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:13.560 Yeah, I do. 120 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.439 Yeah. Because you never listened to me for years and years. 121 00:05:16.459 --> 00:05:16.879 You know that.

122 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:17.920 Yeah, that's true. 123 00:05:18.100 --> 00:05:19.600 And I used to, when I first hired you as 124 00:05:19.620 --> 00:05:21.839 my assistant, I'd say freeze. And you'd be like, what? No, 125 00:05:22.019 --> 00:05:24.480 that's stupid. Well, that was just smart of her though. Yeah. 126 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:27.839 Good life skills, really. 127 00:05:27.860 --> 00:05:31.060 You were 30? That was appropriate. Hey, freeze! Tells you 128 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:31.720 to freeze? 129 00:05:31.860 --> 00:05:32.199 Freeze? 130 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:33.339 No, what are you doing, freeze? 131 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:34.879 I just took out my pepper spray. 132 00:05:34.939 --> 00:05:35.199 Yeah. 133 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:38.639 No, I'm, yeah, they're really, they love you. They really, 134 00:05:38.740 --> 00:05:39.560 really love you. 135 00:05:39.740 --> 00:05:42.019 And I think that they, like, every time someone would 136 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:43.459 come in, they'd be like, is that Uncle Conan? 137 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:45.480 Is that Uncle Conan? And, you know, like, they're just 138 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:46.560 really excited to see you. 139 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:48.660 Does that burn you a little bit that they love. 140 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:49.800 You so much? Yes. Why? 141 00:05:49.939 --> 00:05:50.379 I don't know. 142 00:05:50.420 --> 00:05:51.120 I think when they're older. 143 00:05:51.139 --> 00:05:52.459 I think it bothers you more than anybody. 144 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:53.560 It does, it does, yeah. 145 00:05:53.579 --> 00:05:54.220 Yeah. 146 00:05:54.779 --> 00:05:57.100 You have kept me away from your daughter, I've noticed. 147 00:05:57.500 --> 00:06:00.759 You don't want her forming any attachments to me. That's 148 00:06:00.779 --> 00:06:01.180 not true. 149 00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:02.220 I brought her in here before. 150 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:03.579 Yeah, you bring her in, but you're always like, okay, 151 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.740 that's enough, that's enough. And she starts to, I see 152 00:06:05.819 --> 00:06:07.649 light coming into her eyes for the first time, like 153 00:06:08.629 --> 00:06:11.550 unbridled joy and fun. And you're always like, let's get 154 00:06:11.569 --> 00:06:12.910 out of here. And you wrap her in a blanket 155 00:06:12.930 --> 00:06:15.569 and you run away. I'm just going to look at 156 00:06:15.589 --> 00:06:16.870 what you've been doodling here. 157 00:06:16.990 --> 00:06:17.410 Oh, dear. 158 00:06:18.029 --> 00:06:19.009 Oh, look at this. 159 00:06:19.329 --> 00:06:19.889 Oh, no. 160 00:06:20.149 --> 00:06:22.480 You've got a Darth Vader that you've drawn. And then 161 00:06:22.579 --> 00:06:25.420 is that a Boba Fett? What is that, a glip-glop? 162 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.399 And then this is just a regular stormtrooper. These are 163 00:06:28.420 --> 00:06:31.620 the renderings of someone who has thought about these guys 164 00:06:31.810 --> 00:06:32.649 a lot. 165 00:06:33.050 --> 00:06:35.290 I don't ever draw them, I swear to God, and 166 00:06:35.310 --> 00:06:37.170 I just happened to today. And of course, it's the 167 00:06:37.329 --> 00:06:38.850 one day that you pick up the piece of paper. 168 00:06:38.870 --> 00:06:39.670 You don't ever draw them? 169 00:06:39.689 --> 00:06:41.389 You don't ever draw them. These are perfectly rendered. 170 00:06:41.410 --> 00:06:43.569 Because I used to draw them in grade school all 171 00:06:43.610 --> 00:06:44.470 the time. 172 00:06:44.629 --> 00:06:46.589 So you're saying you regress when you're in my presence. 173 00:06:46.689 --> 00:06:49.189 I do. Look at that. Those are really good. 174 00:06:49.230 --> 00:06:49.870 Those are really good. 175 00:06:49.889 --> 00:06:52.209 You're a very good artist, but it's just interesting to 176 00:06:52.250 --> 00:06:55.629 me that this is... This is what, I feel like 177 00:06:55.750 --> 00:06:57.529 I'm trying to get you to take an algebra test 178 00:06:57.589 --> 00:07:00.829 and I walk by you and I'm like, Mr. Corley. 179 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.100 That's exactly what happened in high school. Did you get, yeah, 180 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:05.480 I was horrible at algebra. 181 00:07:05.660 --> 00:07:06.540 Absolutely horrible. 182 00:07:06.819 --> 00:07:08.019 Did you have detention a lot? 183 00:07:08.540 --> 00:07:10.639 I wouldn't say a lot, but I was no stranger. 184 00:07:10.899 --> 00:07:11.480 Yeah. 185 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:13.019 You seem like a law-abiding guy. 186 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.810 No, I was a real, like, I got away with 187 00:07:15.889 --> 00:07:17.310 a lot. I broke a lot of rules, but I 188 00:07:17.529 --> 00:07:19.550 very rarely got caught and I'm not proud of it. 189 00:07:19.610 --> 00:07:19.889 That's cool. 190 00:07:19.910 --> 00:07:21.649 But I would do things like, I wants to get 191 00:07:21.709 --> 00:07:25.350 out of a test Did a full gash wax makeup 192 00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:28.370 cut on my hand and went in to class just 193 00:07:28.449 --> 00:07:30.230 pouring blood out of it going, I got to. 194 00:07:30.389 --> 00:07:31.209 Go to the nurse. 195 00:07:31.649 --> 00:07:33.930 And it was very realistic? 196 00:07:34.189 --> 00:07:37.029 Very realistic, yeah. I had it in my glove compartment 197 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:38.110 of my car in high school. 198 00:07:38.370 --> 00:07:41.370 My brother, we had this woman that, you know, my 199 00:07:41.410 --> 00:07:43.470 mom went back to work. My dad was at work. 200 00:07:43.589 --> 00:07:46.829 And so she got this woman named Eva Murphy, who 201 00:07:46.870 --> 00:07:50.750 was from Prince Edward Island. And- she would help clean 202 00:07:50.769 --> 00:07:53.269 the house and she'd put on a meal for us 203 00:07:53.529 --> 00:07:55.550 at five o'clock. And she was just sort of there 204 00:07:55.589 --> 00:07:57.050 to make sure that there was someone at home. And 205 00:07:57.110 --> 00:07:59.889 she

did a lot, actually. She was wonderful. But my 206 00:07:59.910 --> 00:08:02.759 brother Luke once took a... Sorry, Luke, I'm selling you 207 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:05.519 out here. But he spent a lot of time, he 208 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.040 used that fake vampire blood. And this is ingenious. He 209 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:11.879 just wanted to play a prank on Eva, but he 210 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.740 melted red wax on his hand and his upper arm. 211 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.329 So it looked like it had And then he painstakingly 212 00:08:19.379 --> 00:08:21.139 put all this blood on it. And it looked like 213 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:24.779 his hand had accidentally fallen into like, I don't know, 214 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.660 a wood chipper. Like a garbage disposal or something. Yeah, 215 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.430 it was shredded. His hand looked shredded. And he came 216 00:08:29.490 --> 00:08:32.009 running into the kitchen. He was like, ah! Eva Murphy 217 00:08:32.169 --> 00:08:34.549 freaked out. And I think Luke then was like, ah! 218 00:08:34.909 --> 00:08:37.450 Luke was scared because he got, he just thought he 219 00:08:37.470 --> 00:08:39.929 was going to get, oh, you rascal. And instead he 220 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.320 came running in with a stump. 221 00:08:41.340 --> 00:08:41.409 Wow. 222 00:08:42.350 --> 00:08:44.480 It was shooting blood. Do you know what I mean? 223 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.659 It was out of Monty Python, the Holy Grail, man, 224 00:08:46.740 --> 00:08:48.220 after my own heart. 225 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:48.320 Yeah. 226 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:51.659 And I remembered I was horrified. Eva was horrified. Luke 227 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:52.509 was horrified. 228 00:08:52.529 --> 00:08:53.830 Oh, my God. 229 00:08:53.870 --> 00:08:55.669 I don't think so. He's kind of a sociopath. But 230 00:08:56.649 --> 00:08:58.789 it was quite, that just triggered me. You just brought 231 00:08:58.830 --> 00:09:02.360 up a very painful memory for me. Is that a butt? 232 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:04.940 It's a W for rap, but it also could be. 233 00:09:04.940 --> 00:09:08.120 You look, look at that. Jesus, can I see that place? 234 00:09:08.259 --> 00:09:10.929 So you're out of control today. You just drew boobies. Well, 235 00:09:11.509 --> 00:09:13.629 after she said but, I put some nipples on there. 236 00:09:13.750 --> 00:09:14.889 Okay. 237 00:09:14.950 --> 00:09:17.659 So now I see why you would go into detention. 238 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:18.159 All right. 239 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:18.399 Yeah. 240 00:09:19.370 --> 00:09:21.350 Were you ever in detention? I feel like you were 241 00:09:21.389 --> 00:09:23.009 the kid who asked for extra credit. 242 00:09:23.049 --> 00:09:26.289 I was the kid that escorted other kids to detention. 243 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.100 No, you weren't! 244 00:09:28.250 --> 00:09:30.860 I know, but still, were you the kid who was like, 245 00:09:30.940 --> 00:09:31.860 excuse

me, you forgot? 246 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:41.320 I have him, Principal Thomas! This malefactor! Nerd! 247 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.759 Nerd, as he draws more Star Wars heads. 248 00:09:45.179 --> 00:09:49.120 Nope, I've taken your boobie. And I've turned it. I 249 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:53.799 took your frown and turned it upside down. So I'm 250 00:09:53.860 --> 00:09:56.769 very happy with what I've done. That's real good. 251 00:09:56.789 --> 00:09:57.230 I know. 252 00:09:57.389 --> 00:09:59.049 And hey, you know the great thing about a podcast? 253 00:09:59.090 --> 00:09:59.970 It's perfect for drones. 254 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:00.519 Stuff. 255 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:01.200 Yeah. 256 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.940 But look at that guy. Look at that. See? Wow. 257 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:06.799 That's really special. He's got boopy eyes. I guess his 258 00:10:06.820 --> 00:10:11.139 friends call him Titty. That's Titty Johnson. I just took 259 00:10:11.179 --> 00:10:12.320 back everything I just did. 260 00:10:12.830 --> 00:10:13.129 Okay. 261 00:10:13.169 --> 00:10:17.049 So we'll also post these on Team Coco podcasts on Instagram.com. 262 00:10:17.419 --> 00:10:19.529 Both the Star Wars heads and Titty Johnson. 263 00:10:19.629 --> 00:10:21.769 Do you want to do that again and sound like 264 00:10:21.789 --> 00:10:27.529 you're not on lithium? I'm going to post these. Okay, 265 00:10:27.590 --> 00:10:28.350 Sylvia Plath. 266 00:10:28.409 --> 00:10:29.509 We'll also post these. 267 00:10:29.570 --> 00:10:35.029 No, I want the other one. You do it, asshole. Hey, 268 00:10:35.049 --> 00:10:37.250 you want to check out these fun drawings? See the 269 00:10:37.269 --> 00:10:40.850 whole evolution of two boobies to a friendly guy named 270 00:10:40.950 --> 00:10:43.129 Titty Johnson. Check it out on. 271 00:10:43.610 --> 00:10:46.450 At Team Coco Podcast on Instagram and YouTube. 272 00:10:48.340 --> 00:10:50.460 That's the kind of show you've signed up for. Hey, 273 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.500 I am very excited. My guest today is one of 274 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.590 my oldest friends. And he also just happens to be 275 00:10:56.610 --> 00:11:03.809 a legendary writer, showrunner, and producer. I mean, he's been 276 00:11:03.850 --> 00:11:07.149 responsible for like half of the really good TV shows 277 00:11:07.710 --> 00:11:10.990 in the last 25 years. That's very true. And he 278 00:11:11.029 --> 00:11:14.149 and I go way back and we got started together. 279 00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:18.389 We struck out. Two lads heading out to L.A. in 1985. 280 00:11:18.389 --> 00:11:20.409 He saved my life in so many ways, and I 281 00:11:20.450 --> 00:11:23.730 love him for it. The fourth season of his show, Upload, 282 00:11:23.850 --> 00:11:27.500 premieres on Prime Video Monday, August 25th, and he has 283 00:11:27.509 --> 00:11:30.500 like 15 other things going, too. It's craziness. I am 284 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.399 so thrilled he's here today, and I know fans have 285 00:11:32.419 --> 00:11:39.159 been wanting this for a long time. The day has come. 286 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:45.379 Greg Daniels, welcome. Anyone who doesn't know, and I think 287 00:11:45.419 --> 00:11:48.279 most people know because Adam Sachs has told me that 288 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.190 this might be the most fan requested interview that we've 289 00:11:52.210 --> 00:11:54.070 had over years. People are saying, when are you going 290 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:55.029 to get Greg Daniels here? 291 00:11:55.049 --> 00:12:00.309 And yet I'm guessed like 750. I think I should 292 00:12:00.350 --> 00:12:03.350 have a podcast. Greg Daniels thought he had a friend, 293 00:12:03.750 --> 00:12:06.210 but I guess not. Look. 294 00:12:06.809 --> 00:12:09.789 I waited to monetize our friendship at the peak moment, 295 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:10.750 and I think I've done that. 296 00:12:10.980 --> 00:12:11.720 Middle of the summer. 297 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:12.039 Yeah. 298 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:18.240 Who couldn't come because they were on vacation? 299 00:12:19.340 --> 00:12:22.250 You and I met in college, and we both worked 300 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:24.610 on the Harvard Lampoon. We knew each other. 301 00:12:24.629 --> 00:12:26.429 We were in the same class freshman year. 302 00:12:26.470 --> 00:12:28.529 Yes, we did a- Which we could talk about, I suppose. 303 00:12:28.549 --> 00:12:30.990 We did a class, which was like a playwriting class. 304 00:12:31.389 --> 00:12:33.049 No, the other one. There was one that we did 305 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:35.940 one with the same professor about stories. Do you remember? Yeah. 306 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:37.500 freshman year as a seminar? 307 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.019 I don't. It's all a blur. Yes. 308 00:12:39.259 --> 00:12:41.019 I might be thinking of someone else. I think you're 309 00:12:41.059 --> 00:12:41.740 thinking of someone else. 310 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.710 You know what we're going to do? We've never done this, 311 00:12:44.730 --> 00:12:47.889 but we're going to start again. Watch this and go. 312 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:53.480 All right. For the uninitiated, for people who don't know, um, 313 00:12:56.309 --> 00:12:59.309 Greg and I went to school together. We kind of 314 00:12:59.350 --> 00:13:01.789 knew each other. And then I was on the lampoon. 315 00:13:01.820 --> 00:13:04.600 You were competing to get on the lampoon. You dropped 316 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:05.299 off a class. 317 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.919 Why is that important that you were there first? 318 00:13:09.379 --> 00:13:09.940 I was there. 319 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.840 This is like the fourth time you've said this intro. 320 00:13:15.289 --> 00:13:16.529 I was on the lampoon. 321 00:13:16.570 --> 00:13:18.690 You were competing to get on the lampoon. 322 00:13:18.750 --> 00:13:21.230 I could have gone thumbs down. I could have gone 323 00:13:21.269 --> 00:13:22.190 thumbs up. 324

00:13:22.470 --> 00:13:24.330 I was the John Lennon and you were the Ringo. 325 00:13:26.309 --> 00:13:30.500 He was like, I can keep a steady beat. You 326 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.779 dropped this cartoon off that is, and that moment, I 327 00:13:33.820 --> 00:13:36.000 remember that moment very well because you had to leave 328 00:13:36.019 --> 00:13:38.000 them on the floor of this building. And I remember 329 00:13:38.059 --> 00:13:41.519 going into this room in the lampoon building where people 330 00:13:41.539 --> 00:13:43.399 would just leave their stuff on the floor and looking 331 00:13:43.419 --> 00:13:45.990 down and seeing this cartoon. And a good cartoon is 332 00:13:46.009 --> 00:13:48.269 like a little silver bullet. It goes right to your brain. 333 00:13:48.970 --> 00:13:51.610 You had such a great cartoon, which was, why don't 334 00:13:51.629 --> 00:13:52.259 you describe it? 335 00:13:52.950 --> 00:13:54.220 I would never have brought this up. 336 00:13:55.909 --> 00:13:57.450 I liked it. I thought it was really funny. I 337 00:13:57.570 --> 00:13:59.909 thought it was, it was sort of my, it's our 338 00:13:59.990 --> 00:14:00.769 origin story. 339 00:14:00.789 --> 00:14:03.289 I suppose, I suppose if we forget about the other thing. 340 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:09.399 But very literary cartoon, very small audience, very nerd defining cartoon. 341 00:14:09.419 --> 00:14:13.519 Don't talk down to my people. It was a, oh God, 342 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:13.879 I can't. 343 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:14.840 It's a sea captain. 344 00:14:14.860 --> 00:14:16.700 It's a sea captain, old sea captain. And he's at 345 00:14:16.740 --> 00:14:19.000 some party and he has a, hello, my name is 346 00:14:19.539 --> 00:14:21.820 sticker on his shirt. And it says Ishmael. 347 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:26.320 Ishmael. One of the great lines. Call me Ishmael. And 348 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.090 I thought, I saw that and I thought, okay, that's 349 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:30.529 a great, that would be a New Yorker cartoon right now. 350 00:14:30.549 --> 00:14:33.769 It was well-drawn. We got to know each other. And 351 00:14:34.490 --> 00:14:39.190 then both of us were interested in getting into comedy. 352 00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:43.330 I'll just speak for myself. the idea of going out 353 00:14:43.370 --> 00:14:46.750 into this crazy world by myself was terrifying. And I 354 00:14:46.809 --> 00:14:50.490 remembered thinking, gee, I wonder if Greg would do this 355 00:14:50.570 --> 00:14:52.830 with me. Cause he's really funny. And then I'd have 356 00:14:52.870 --> 00:14:55.470 a good friend and we could do it together. That 357 00:14:55.509 --> 00:14:56.389 was my feeling. 358 00:14:56.769 --> 00:14:57.110 Yes. 359 00:14:57.190 --> 00:14:58.970 Um, I think you were under the impression that I 360 00:14:58.990 --> 00:15:01.740 was very wealthy, which I was not. 361 00:15:01.860 --> 00:15:04.879 Well, we, the summer before we graduated, we worked on 362

00:15:04.899 --> 00:15:09.259 a project and it was a very fun experience. And, uh, 363 00:15:09.929 --> 00:15:13.470 I think that comedy is such a social thing. It's 364 00:15:13.570 --> 00:15:18.529 so much fun to joke around with friends. And, you know, 365 00:15:18.549 --> 00:15:22.929 I prefer it that way for sure. And so, yeah. 366 00:15:22.950 --> 00:15:25.309 So I thought, well, that's cool. Let's try that. 367 00:15:25.370 --> 00:15:30.590 And I remember Greg, a brilliant fellow, and you were 368 00:15:31.029 --> 00:15:33.830 possibly going to go to law school. And I think 369 00:15:33.850 --> 00:15:37.169 you're you're. Your mother was questioning, and I remember when 370 00:15:37.190 --> 00:15:38.970 you showed up with me, it's like you show up 371 00:15:39.029 --> 00:15:42.490 with your fiance. You showed up with me, and I 372 00:15:42.529 --> 00:15:46.190 remembered your dad was like, oh, this sounds fun. And 373 00:15:46.210 --> 00:15:48.980 I think your mom was, who I love, by the way, 374 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.980 I love your mom, and she's fantastic, but she rightfully 375 00:15:53.019 --> 00:15:55.860 was a little like, who's this Conan, and he's talking 376 00:15:55.899 --> 00:15:59.000 all this nonsense into my son's ear. That's the impression 377 00:15:59.070 --> 00:15:59.399 I got. 378 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:07.070 Yeah, well, that was my two choices, lawyer or comedy writer. 379 00:16:07.370 --> 00:16:10.110 And I found that people, when I had been a 380 00:16:10.149 --> 00:16:12.710 kid and growing up, they would say, you should be 381 00:16:12.750 --> 00:16:14.669 a lawyer. And they always said that when they were 382 00:16:14.690 --> 00:16:16.750 mad at me because I was being like really annoying 383 00:16:16.789 --> 00:16:20.399 and argumentative. And then sometimes they'd say, you should be 384 00:16:20.419 --> 00:16:22.720 a comedian, you should be funny. And they were always 385 00:16:22.740 --> 00:16:23.940 saying that when they were happy with me. 386 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:24.700 Oh, that's cool. 387 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:26.340 And I was like, you know what? I think I 388 00:16:26.379 --> 00:16:30.149 should probably not go down this path of everybody hating me. 389 00:16:35.889 --> 00:16:38.149 This part of my life is so seared into my 390 00:16:38.190 --> 00:16:43.730 brain and I'm indebted to you because I don't know what, 391 00:16:44.450 --> 00:16:47.190 I don't, I, I, I think coming out to LA 392 00:16:47.250 --> 00:16:50.399 was terrifying to me was, it was just, I, I, 393 00:16:51.029 --> 00:16:51.929 What have you said. 394 00:16:51.730 --> 00:16:54.139 To the audience about your origin? What can I talk 395 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:55.740 about that they don't know? 396 00:16:55.860 --> 00:16:58.419 He ate a lot of burgers and fries and he 397 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.779 was weird and lanky. 398 00:17:01.419 --> 00:17:05.059 No, no, that's just genetics. Oh, okay. 399 00:17:05.619 --> 00:17:08.869 For burgers and fries, we used to go to Johnny Rockets. 400 00:17:08.980 --> 00:17:12.269 Did we talk about this? And I had this very 401 00:17:12.329 --> 00:17:14.369 annoying running joke with him where I would tell the 402 00:17:14.410 --> 00:17:17.829 waitstaff it was his birthday every single time that we 403 00:17:17.849 --> 00:17:19.650 came so that they would come sing to him. 404 00:17:20.349 --> 00:17:24.190 It's annoying. Very annoying. But I think all I have 405 00:17:24.210 --> 00:17:27.450 to tell people is that we came out here and 406 00:17:27.470 --> 00:17:34.880 we were... Very frugal. We were very hardworking. We did 407 00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:36.079 not have girlfriends. 408 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:37.299 We shared one car. 409 00:17:37.380 --> 00:17:37.539 Yep. 410 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.579 One apartment and one office. 411 00:17:39.980 --> 00:17:40.319 Wow. 412 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.799 And according to my father, one towel. I don't know 413 00:17:44.819 --> 00:17:45.400 if that's true. 414 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.740 No, it's true. It's true. And I'll tell you this. 415 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.019 We had an apartment, which I pass every day because 416 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:57.140 I live not far away on Barrington. And I remember us. 417 00:17:57.700 --> 00:17:58.670 We had no furniture. 418 00:17:58.690 --> 00:18:03.069 All right. So we got- We got mattresses from a 419 00:18:04.450 --> 00:18:06.670 parking lot in Watts. Do you remember that? 420 00:18:07.019 --> 00:18:09.660 We drove there and they would... You pick out your 421 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:11.079 mattress and they throw it on a truck. 422 00:18:11.259 --> 00:18:12.720 They tie it to the top of your car and 423 00:18:12.769 --> 00:18:16.829 off you go. It wasn't a store. I'm sorry, who's they? 424 00:18:16.950 --> 00:18:17.950 I don't know. 425 00:18:17.970 --> 00:18:21.069 There was no warranty to this. 426 00:18:21.089 --> 00:18:22.509 There was no tag on the mattresses. 427 00:18:23.049 --> 00:18:24.930 And it was wrapped in plastic, but it could easily 428 00:18:24.970 --> 00:18:27.009 have come from a dead person's apartment. 429 00:18:27.539 --> 00:18:27.890 I don't know. 430 00:18:27.910 --> 00:18:30.440 There was weird stains on them, bloody stains. 431 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.460 And we also, we had a subscription to the LA 432 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:35.359 Times because it's very important to know what's going on 433 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:38.059 in your community. And that used to pile up so fast. 434 00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:40.089 That we built furniture out of it. 435 00:18:40.250 --> 00:18:43.390 We made, we stacked our LA Times. We did not 436 00:18:43.430 --> 00:18:46.910 have a couch. We did not have furniture. So we 437 00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:48.630 knew we had to have a television. So we got 438 00:18:48.670 --> 00:18:51.529 a television and I know what it was because my brother, Neil, 439 00:18:52.109 --> 00:18:55.960 tends to,

let's say, hang on to things. Somehow my brother, Neil, 440 00:18:55.980 --> 00:18:57.519 he calls me the other day and he says, I 441 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.500 just emailed you something. And I checked my email. He 442 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:02.940 had emailed a photograph. He said, it's an old 1985 443 00:19:02.940 --> 00:19:05.559 TV remote that says Quasar on it. And I said, 444 00:19:05.579 --> 00:19:07.640 what is this? And he went, That's the remote control 445 00:19:07.700 --> 00:19:09.960 you and Greg had in your apartment in 1985. It's 446 00:19:09.980 --> 00:19:10.640 like the. 447 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.019 Size of a dictionary. 448 00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:12.900 Yeah. Oh my God. 449 00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:13.960 That's crazy. 450 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.119 And it's all beat up. And Neil got it because 451 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.859 I guess when we got our own places, eventually I 452 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:24.700 took the TV and then it had another life and 453 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:26.160 it went to New York with me. And then eventually 454 00:19:26.349 --> 00:19:29.910 Neil gets all appliances. He ended up with it. But- 455 00:19:30.789 --> 00:19:32.910 The story that everyone needs to know is we shared 456 00:19:32.950 --> 00:19:35.359 a terrible car that we bought at like a junkyard 457 00:19:35.390 --> 00:19:37.299 near the airport. Rent-a-wreck. Yeah, rent-a-wreck. 458 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:39.259 There used to be a place where you could rent cars, 459 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.299 maybe still called rent-a-wreck. And when the wrecks got so 460 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.720 wrecky that nobody would rent them, then they sold them. 461 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.359 It was a 1977 isuzu opal which is a car 462 00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:55.200 that i think they made twice and then said no 463 00:19:55.220 --> 00:19:57.839 more no more um and you can. 464 00:19:57.660 --> 00:20:00.160 See the ground from in the back seat there was 465 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.180 a corrosion hole there's a hole up And if you 466 00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:05.450 wanted to get rid of your litter, you could just 467 00:20:05.490 --> 00:20:09.089 drop it on the floor. I don't like that. 468 00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:12.950 We were this unit. We were locked in. We worked 469 00:20:13.029 --> 00:20:15.730 really hard at our job at not necessarily the news. 470 00:20:15.849 --> 00:20:19.700 But one of the things that was unusual is for 471 00:20:19.779 --> 00:20:22.859 young guys who are 22 and out in L.A., we 472 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:25.740 didn't drink. We didn't do anything. We didn't do drugs. 473 00:20:26.420 --> 00:20:29.380 we were kind of interested in having girlfriends, but we 474 00:20:29.420 --> 00:20:31.619 didn't know how to do that. So I remember you 475 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:34.259 went to like a Mrs. Fields and started chatting up 476 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:35.400 the girl who worked at Mrs. 477 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:35.859 Fields. 478 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:38.819 And you were like, I'm doing pretty well with that. 479 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:40.339 And then- I had a. 480 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:41.170 Second date with her. 481 00:20:41.180 --> 00:20:43.799 You had a second date. And so here's the best 482 00:20:43.859 --> 00:20:48.589 part of that. Greg comes to me because he had 483 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.329 some success with the girl working at Mrs. Fields. And 484 00:20:52.349 --> 00:20:54.450 he came back and he went, taking her out. And 485 00:20:54.490 --> 00:20:56.359 then he said, I need to speak to you. Can 486 00:20:56.390 --> 00:20:59.440 I have the car tomorrow? So he had to ask 487 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.859 me if he could borrow the car. And I said, well, 488 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:05.440 that's okay. And then I just stayed home with the TV, 489 00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.299 the Quasar, and watched the A-Team again. I don't know. 490 00:21:08.819 --> 00:21:10.900 But I don't know. It's just, we had this. 491 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.500 This is very accurate. Yeah. It's not complimentary, but it's 492 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:15.140 very accurate. 493 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:19.980 Well, I mean, and then we had these, we were 494 00:21:20.059 --> 00:21:22.380 so worried that we were going to get into some 495 00:21:22.420 --> 00:21:25.190 kind of What if the job dries up and we 496 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:29.039 don't have money? And you were more of a taskmaster 497 00:21:29.059 --> 00:21:30.619 in a good way about, hey, we got to make 498 00:21:30.650 --> 00:21:32.359 sure we don't blow our money when we're out here 499 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:36.180 on our paychecks. So you found a place called Flaky Jake's. 500 00:21:36.420 --> 00:21:38.259 Oh, yeah. My Flaky Jake's scam. 501 00:21:38.460 --> 00:21:40.000 He had a scam at Flaky Jake's. 502 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.900 Yes. So Flaky Jake's was great. It was this burger 503 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.079 restaurant and they were very proud of the fact that 504 00:21:46.099 --> 00:21:48.539 they baked their own buns. And that you would put 505 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.500 the burger on the buns and then you'd go and 506 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:51.740 they had hundreds of fixings. 507 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.259 Like a salad bar fixings bar. 508 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:53.680 Yeah. 509 00:21:54.009 --> 00:21:56.089 And, you know, and the whole thing was, you know, 510 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:57.869 I don't know what, like eight bucks or something, but 511 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:02.309 they would sell the buns for 35 cents. And you 512 00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:04.099 got the bun, you got a tray, and then you 513 00:22:04.140 --> 00:22:06.900 could go to the fixings and you could put tomatoes 514 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.029 and onions and. A lot of dressing on it. Russian dressing. 515 00:22:10.089 --> 00:22:10.509 Pickles. 516 00:22:10.730 --> 00:22:13.380 Yeah. And you can make yourself like this

vegetarian fixing 517 00:22:13.460 --> 00:22:15.160 sandwich for 35 cents. 518 00:22:15.460 --> 00:22:19.140 So you don't, so they would say, I of course 519 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:24.720 didn't subscribe to that. I was 6'4, 155 pounds, which 520 00:22:24.779 --> 00:22:28.539 if you do the math doesn't work. And I was 521 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.940 always hungry. I was always perpetually hungry and I couldn't 522 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:34.630 gain weight. So I would, I would say I'll have 523 00:22:34.650 --> 00:22:37.910 the double, double, triple burger. And then they'd turn to 524 00:22:37.970 --> 00:22:39.890 Greg and he'd be like, just the bun, thank you. 525 00:22:41.450 --> 00:22:43.150 And then he'd walk over to this thing and he'd 526 00:22:43.309 --> 00:22:45.589 pile it mile high with free stuff. 527 00:22:45.670 --> 00:22:47.309 I don't want to have to take a bad job 528 00:22:47.349 --> 00:22:50.569 because I had the burger, you know? I want to 529 00:22:50.609 --> 00:22:52.690 have a little flexibility there. 530 00:22:52.710 --> 00:22:57.819 That's genius. Yeah, so we're driving around. I'm just trying 531 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.380 to paint a picture because Greg has gone on to 532 00:23:01.420 --> 00:23:06.950 be one of the most successful people TV creators of 533 00:23:06.970 --> 00:23:10.829 all time. And it's just, no, it's true. And it's 534 00:23:10.890 --> 00:23:15.829 really fun for me to time travel and go back to, 535 00:23:16.289 --> 00:23:18.890 you had a kick once when you said, you'd read 536 00:23:18.910 --> 00:23:22.190 an article that broccoli has all the amino acids you need. 537 00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:26.579 So you and I went and you filled bags with 538 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.660 broccoli at the store and we came home and we 539 00:23:28.859 --> 00:23:30.930 boiled it because that's supposed to be, or steamed it. 540 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:35.509 And then we ate it with some, fat-free butter substitute. 541 00:23:35.670 --> 00:23:36.210 Yeah. 542 00:23:36.230 --> 00:23:38.750 And you were chomping it down going, hmm, all the 543 00:23:38.789 --> 00:23:43.490 amino acids and for very little money. And I started thinking, 544 00:23:43.869 --> 00:23:46.349 why did I pick this guy? Why didn't I pick 545 00:23:46.390 --> 00:23:47.609 a guy who was like, come on, let's do a 546 00:23:47.630 --> 00:23:50.430 few lines and then go to that strip club. You gotta, 547 00:23:50.930 --> 00:23:53.579 carpe diem. Yeah. There was no carpe diem with us. 548 00:23:53.819 --> 00:23:55.720 Yeah, it was Greg holding you back, right? 549 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:00.900 Yeah, I'm the problem. Thank you. Can you imagine? 550 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.039 I had a t-shirt that said bikini inspector. 551 00:24:04.420 --> 00:24:07.349 There was not a nerd vibe in him at all. No, 552 00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:08.160 not at all. 553 00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:10.190 This guy was supposed to go clubbing and you held 554 00:24:10.230 --> 00:24:10.930 him back. 555 00:24:10.670 --> 00:24:11.210 With your burgers. 556 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:13.410 Look, they say that Leopold and Loeb, neither one of 557 00:24:13.450 --> 00:24:15.470 them would have killed if they were alone, but together 558 00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:18.599 they were lethal. And that's true of most murdering couples. 559 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:23.349 Greg and I each made the other nerd vibrate. nerd 560 00:24:23.390 --> 00:24:26.059 genes vibrate and we both would get nerdier. 561 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:26.940 I don't know. 562 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:27.319 Who knows? 563 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.359 Maybe without you, he would have been like, you know, 564 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.640 going to the strip clubs and I don't know. 565 00:24:31.660 --> 00:24:31.740 Yeah. 566 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:32.839 Having a burger. 567 00:24:33.059 --> 00:24:37.640 Yeah. I don't know. Having some real protein. 568 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.720 I really want to run with that premise, but it 569 00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:42.589 doesn't feel right. 570 00:24:53.930 --> 00:24:57.690 Good nights are about the people, the laughs, the real 571 00:24:57.730 --> 00:25:00.940 moments you don't want to miss. 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too. Under 592 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.019 the tree at the new spa KCR. 593 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.779 I have such clear memories and they come back to 594 00:26:19.819 --> 00:26:22.329 me whenever I drive past our old haunts. I remember 595 00:26:22.349 --> 00:26:25.210 we eventually get separate apartments. I found a $ 380 a 596 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:31.829 month apartment from Cynthia Stevenson. She had this special apartment 597 00:26:31.849 --> 00:26:33.930 that was really cheap. And she said, I'm moving in 598 00:26:33.950 --> 00:26:35.970 with my boyfriend. You can have my apartment. You got 599 00:26:35.990 --> 00:26:37.630 an apartment not too far away. We're now in the 600 00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:42.950 flats in Hollywood. And I'll never forget, you finally decided 601 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.619 you were gonna get a new car and you were 602 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:47.059 gonna come by and show it to me. And of 603 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.809 course you're very practical, you're careful. 604 00:26:49.829 --> 00:26:52.410 I did a lot of research about how you deal 605 00:26:52.470 --> 00:26:55.349 with car dealers and you gotta hold the line, you 606 00:26:55.369 --> 00:26:56.890 gotta go in there and tell them this is all 607 00:26:56.930 --> 00:27:00.230 I got. And so I did that, I did everything right. 608 00:27:00.269 --> 00:27:02.410 I went in there and I walked out, they had 609 00:27:02.430 --> 00:27:06.539 sold me a car with no air conditioning. because I 610 00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:08.240 didn't know what to do. I was like, this is it. 611 00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:10.240 This is all I can go. And they were like, well, 612 00:27:10.420 --> 00:27:12.259 we can make that if you get by this one 613 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.339 that has no air conditioning. And I kind of was like, 614 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:15.460 maybe I don't need it. 615 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.920 And so this is interesting. He comes by my apartment 616 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.970 and this is before cell phones, before anything like that. 617 00:27:22.029 --> 00:27:23.490 So I think you called me ahead of time and said, 618 00:27:23.529 --> 00:27:25.950 be out in front of your apartment at three o'clock. 619 00:27:25.990 --> 00:27:27.769 I'll come by with my new car. I go out 620 00:27:27.910 --> 00:27:31.650 and then you had bought A very sensible Toyota Corolla. 621 00:27:32.829 --> 00:27:35.549 So I got the one with no air conditioning. And 622 00:27:35.569 --> 00:27:38.170 then I also compounded my problem by getting a car 623 00:27:38.190 --> 00:27:43.109 that would last forever. Would have no air conditioning for 624 00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:43.970 years and years. 625 00:27:44.069 --> 00:27:46.250 And I got in and you were a little defensive. 626 00:27:46.329 --> 00:27:48.630 I got in and there was a giant hole in 627 00:27:49.190 --> 00:27:50.950 the middle. This is a brand new car. And there's 628 00:27:50.970 --> 00:27:54.329 a giant space that

you could put a watermelon in. 629 00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:57.829 in the console and I said, what goes here? And 630 00:27:57.849 --> 00:28:00.349 he went, well, that's normally the air conditioner, but I 631 00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:01.029 didn't get that. 632 00:28:01.089 --> 00:28:02.450 And I said, do I sound like that? 633 00:28:04.829 --> 00:28:08.500 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot. 634 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:09.420 I thought, I'm sorry. 635 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.319 I thought that I partnered with Niles from Frazier. 636 00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:12.000 I apologize. 637 00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:15.359 No, but Greg said, oh, I didn't, I didn't get that. 638 00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:20.819 And Greg was like, yeah, good. Hey, don't diss the 639 00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:29.089 pussy wagon. I was like, Craig, please. He said, come 640 00:28:29.180 --> 00:28:30.349 out on Vag Patrol. 641 00:28:30.950 --> 00:28:32.269 I said, Jesus, Craig. 642 00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:36.009 But he said, he said, I didn't get an air conditioner. 643 00:28:36.089 --> 00:28:36.650 And I said. 644 00:28:36.670 --> 00:28:37.589 There's only two settings. 645 00:28:37.670 --> 00:28:38.069 Yeah. 646 00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:42.970 And I said, yeah, I said, I said, I don't know. 647 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.160 Don't you need air conditioning? It's fine right now. And 648 00:28:45.180 --> 00:28:46.680 it was, of course, it was February. 649 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.819 It felt really good in the car without the air conditioning. 650 00:28:50.339 --> 00:28:52.440 After that, anytime we went to a meeting, he was 651 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.599 covered in sweat. He looked like he was having a 652 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.279 nervous breakdown. 653 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.200 I remember going to, I drove to, I think to 654 00:28:59.259 --> 00:29:00.220 see you in Chicago. 655 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.299 Yeah. I did a happy, happy, good show with Robert Smigel, 656 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:04.119 Bob Odenkirk. Yeah. 657 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.009 And I was going to see you. It was like August. 658 00:29:06.589 --> 00:29:10.099 And I drove from LA to Chicago and, um, I 659 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.980 had to sleep during the day and drive at night 660 00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:18.390 because it was so hot. I made the mistake of 661 00:29:18.450 --> 00:29:20.529 leaving a cassette in the car and I came back 662 00:29:20.589 --> 00:29:22.029 like when I went to get a hamburger, I came 663 00:29:22.049 --> 00:29:25.089 back and it was all curly cued from heat. It 664 00:29:25.130 --> 00:29:26.450 was a nightmare car, but I had a long time. 665 00:29:26.470 --> 00:29:28.349 At least you had a hamburger though. You treated yourself. 666 00:29:28.529 --> 00:29:28.789 Yes. 667 00:29:30.009 --> 00:29:32.609 I'm dying. And so I need a hamburger. I do 668 00:29:32.650 --> 00:29:35.609 remember we used to do very strange things to entertain ourselves. 669 00:29:36.049 --> 00:29:37.809 We have to sit down and we have to together 670 00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:39.009 write all this down sometimes. 671 00:29:39.029 --> 00:29:42.640 Yeah, I don't know what you've, told folks here. One 672 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.559 of my favorites was when- You're insane and. 673 00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:48.740 I was held back from my life as a fucking 674 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:49.480 suck master. 675 00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:51.240 Oh no. 676 00:29:51.259 --> 00:29:55.640 God. Fucking suck master. By the way, to Greg and 677 00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.029 Judy Daniels, to Aaron and Judy Daniels, I hope you're 678 00:29:59.049 --> 00:30:02.809 enjoying the podcast. See, I was a good influence. 679 00:30:03.549 --> 00:30:06.589 We redid the beginning four times and we won't redo this. 680 00:30:07.369 --> 00:30:08.329 That's got to stay in. 681 00:30:08.349 --> 00:30:10.509 I'm not redoing this. I'm proud of this. 682 00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:13.940 Oh, my God. I was just remembering the bit where 683 00:30:14.779 --> 00:30:17.440 we got into our first kind of argument with the 684 00:30:17.460 --> 00:30:18.319 costume designer. 685 00:30:19.259 --> 00:30:20.099 Yeah. 686 00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:20.900 This is Saturday Night Live. 687 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:22.740 That's Saturday Night Live. And they went to Lauren and 688 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.529 they said, fire these two or I'm leaving. And Lauren 689 00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:29.970 was like, this is my costume designer. She's, you know, 690 00:30:30.069 --> 00:30:33.390 terrific and got all these awards and everything. So he 691 00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:38.279 called us into his office and we were a little confused. uh, nervous. Yeah. 692 00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:39.440 We thought we were getting fired. 693 00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:39.779 Yeah. 694 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.579 And he sat down and we just had this conversation. 695 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.880 He said, you gotta, we gotta stay in here about 696 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.950 20 minutes. Um, so she thinks I'm yelling at you. Yeah, 697 00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:49.970 it was terrific. 698 00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:51.329 It was great. He was like, I have to be 699 00:30:51.369 --> 00:30:53.529 here for 20 minutes and you're in here too. And 700 00:30:53.950 --> 00:30:55.509 just so you know, I'm yelling at you right now, 701 00:30:55.549 --> 00:30:58.500 but he wasn't right. Um, and we didn't get into 702 00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.440 a fight to be fair. All we did was we 703 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.519 wrote a sketch and it had these elaborate costumes and we, 704 00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:07.599 We went to the place where they were manufacturing them 705 00:31:07.619 --> 00:31:09.480 just to check on them because we thought that's what 706 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.519 a good writer producer does is check on things. And 707 00:31:11.539 --> 00:31:16.069 that apparently was us overstepping our bounds, which, OK, I 708 00:31:16.089 --> 00:31:18.849

didn't know. We didn't know that we were brand new. So, yeah, 709 00:31:18.930 --> 00:31:21.069 I don't remember us. We never got into fights with 710 00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:22.230 people or yelled at people. 711 00:31:22.529 --> 00:31:23.690 No, no, no, no. 712 00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:25.869 We just ignorantly stepped on toes. 713 00:31:26.710 --> 00:31:27.670 Yes. 714 00:31:27.970 --> 00:31:29.500 That just seems normal, though. 715 00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:30.440 Yeah. 716 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.519 Now that's normal. 717 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:33.640 I don't know. It was one of those things where 718 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.019 we were new. And I don't think it would have 719 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:36.990 been an issue if. 720 00:31:37.369 --> 00:31:39.349 We had a bad, I mean, I think we were 721 00:31:39.390 --> 00:31:41.809 pretty nice people, but we had a lot of like 722 00:31:42.009 --> 00:31:44.589 bad instincts for Hollywood. Like I remember when we, before 723 00:31:44.630 --> 00:31:47.529 we got to SNL, we had an opportunity to possibly 724 00:31:47.569 --> 00:31:51.470 do a movie rewrite. And this was very rare for us. 725 00:31:51.509 --> 00:31:54.250 We had never, ever been offered anything like this. So 726 00:31:54.269 --> 00:31:57.829 they sent us this script and we read it and 727 00:31:57.930 --> 00:32:00.109 we had this one meeting. We came in and for 728 00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:03.019 some reason we were really concerned about that the studio 729 00:32:03.059 --> 00:32:05.400 had wasted money because we didn't like the script at all. 730 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.519 And we spent the whole time going, can you get 731 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.339 the money back? Is that possible? 732 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.960 We were interested in the studio getting its money back. 733 00:32:11.980 --> 00:32:14.619 And we weren't playing the game. 734 00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:19.130 And also, I remember the first meeting we ever had 735 00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:21.309 with an agent was Howard Klein. 736 00:32:21.549 --> 00:32:21.710 Yeah. 737 00:32:22.250 --> 00:32:24.450 We had a meeting with Howard Klein and Howard was like, okay, well, 738 00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:26.559 you guys, there's a good word on you. You're doing 739 00:32:26.579 --> 00:32:27.940 a good job. And the next step would be for 740 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.500 you guys to do this and this and this. And 741 00:32:29.539 --> 00:32:31.440 I cut him off and I said, what if we, 742 00:32:31.859 --> 00:32:34.000 how does it work if we want to write new 743 00:32:34.059 --> 00:32:37.309 lyrics to existing songs? And he said, what, what do 744 00:32:37.329 --> 00:32:40.180 you mean? I said, well, you know, um, Elvis Presley 745 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.019 had that big hit with Suspicious Minds. What if we 746 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.420 just changed it to Suspicious Brains? Can we get paid 747 00:32:44.460 --> 00:32:46.980 for that? And he said, get the fuck out of here. 748 00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:52.559 I don't know why. Trying to tickle our own brains 749 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.339 and be happy. 750 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.619 Well, you had this thing where you wanted to put 751 00:32:56.660 --> 00:32:59.660 in our contract that if Bob Hope died, we would 752 00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:02.920 be released from our contract. Rules of comedy would have 753 00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:04.680 been all different. 754 00:33:04.700 --> 00:33:08.319 There's all this boilerplate. We got our first contract and 755 00:33:08.339 --> 00:33:10.259 it was just, you know, we're staff writers on not 756 00:33:10.299 --> 00:33:13.279 necessarily the news. And there's just this stuff that, of course, 757 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.869 Greg got out his magnified glasses and was looking and saying, 758 00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:23.670 it says here. Well, according to Pinsley T. Pinsworthy, it 759 00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:27.130 says here that Article 4, Section 9. And it says 760 00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:29.490 things like that's been in contract since the beginning of time, 761 00:33:29.549 --> 00:33:32.769 literally biblical stuff about fire, plagues, locusts, act of God. 762 00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:34.730 And I said, well, there should, there needs to be, 763 00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:37.359 I said, I reclined. We need, we want a clause 764 00:33:37.390 --> 00:33:39.920 in there that if Bob Hope should die, comedy as 765 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.140 we know it would be forever changed. And this contract 766 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:43.460 is no one void. And again, he said, get the 767 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.700 fuck out of here. 768 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:47.059 I was like, I was. 769 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.220 Kicked out of his office like 15 times. 770 00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:51.539 Bob Hope just kept living. 771 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.279 He died six hours ago, the age of 150. But, um, 772 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:04.730 I will say I have so many, uh, happy memories 773 00:34:05.029 --> 00:34:08.530 that i wouldn't have had i'm an anxious i'm an 774 00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:11.389 anxious person and i put a lot of pressure on 775 00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:19.780 myself and greg was really just a great happy-go-lucky. 776 00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.420 Hot smoking just think owen wilson. 777 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.760 Yeah greg should be played by owen wilson from the 778 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.630 stick era No, you, um, we just had a lot 779 00:34:31.670 --> 00:34:35.670 of fun doing weird things that there's a whole story. 780 00:34:35.769 --> 00:34:38.469 It's probably a screenplay where you and I decided to just, 781 00:34:38.849 --> 00:34:42.289 I think we had seen in the news that, uh, 782 00:34:42.710 --> 00:34:47.570 lady Diana or princess Diana and her husband, Charles had 783 00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:51.619 just been to Vancouver for like a fair. And we decided. 784 00:34:51.219 --> 00:34:55.059 To expo the expo. It was like expo

87 or something. 785 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.449 And we saw an ad. where they made it look 786 00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:01.969 amazing in the ad. And I think you, as a 787 00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:06.469 historian type person, knew about the Chicago Expo of like 788 00:35:06.469 --> 00:35:10.969 1904 or something that was very impressive. And we just 789 00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:15.809 managed to convince ourselves that if we missed Expo 87 790 00:35:15.809 --> 00:35:17.969 in Vancouver, we would regret it for the rest of 791 00:35:18.030 --> 00:35:18.469 our lives. 792 00:35:19.150 --> 00:35:21.809 I still stand by that. Expo 87. And by the way, 793 00:35:22.250 --> 00:35:26.409 the expo was over. The expo was over, but we thought, 794 00:35:26.449 --> 00:35:27.570 we'll see the remnants. 795 00:35:27.610 --> 00:35:27.949 Oh no. 796 00:35:27.989 --> 00:35:31.340 So I remember we flew to Seattle. 797 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.300 It was like all business too. It's just like Xerox 798 00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:36.760 had a thing. Because they had a new copier. 799 00:35:36.820 --> 00:35:37.079 Yeah. 800 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:37.699 You know? 801 00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:39.480 It was a new kind of asbestos they were coming 802 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:39.920 out with. 803 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.579 You sign in the paper and you're like, we got 804 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:42.000 to go there. 805 00:35:42.019 --> 00:35:44.219 We got to go. So Greg and I fly. I mean, 806 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:46.289 other people on their weekends are, I'm in LA. I'm 807 00:35:46.309 --> 00:35:48.130 going to get on a boat with all my friends. 808 00:35:48.170 --> 00:35:51.949 And we did know people, Billy Kimball, Ian McStone Graham, 809 00:35:52.309 --> 00:35:55.289 who lived in a cool house. They all were writers. 810 00:35:55.690 --> 00:35:58.269 They would go out on, they would rent apartments. boats 811 00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:00.489 and all split it and on the weekend they'd go 812 00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:02.909 out and wear yachting caps and have fun and there 813 00:36:02.949 --> 00:36:06.550 were women on the boat and you're like we're like suckers. 814 00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:11.449 Xerox has a new copier so we're gonna be the 815 00:36:11.610 --> 00:36:13.989 first to see it we're gonna have our pictures taken 816 00:36:14.010 --> 00:36:16.840 with the new xerox copier. 817 00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:20.260 So we flew we fly to seattle we fly to 818 00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:23.159 seattle and then we drive in a of course the 819 00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:26.210 cheapest rental car you can get like oh my The 820 00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:29.750 Hyundai bulb. And it's a light bulb. They turned into 821 00:36:29.769 --> 00:36:32.989 a car. And we drove that from Seattle to Vancouver. 822 00:36:33.550 --> 00:36:37.170 And then we're watching. We're in our motel room quickly 823 00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:40.869 sussing out that, well, this expo isn't really happening. And 824 00:36:40.949 --> 00:36:43.550 it's raining a lot. And all the exhibits are closed. 825 00:36:43.610 --> 00:36:46.110 And there's a half a Ferris wheel. What are we 826 00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:48.469 doing here? And then we're spending a lot of time. 827 00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:50.510 We got hooked on. Beachcombers. 828 00:36:50.789 --> 00:36:57.869 There is a Canadian content. that ran for like 50 years. 829 00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:02.090 It's like the bold and the beautiful of Canada called Beachcombers. 830 00:37:02.110 --> 00:37:02.889 The Beachcombers, I think. 831 00:37:02.909 --> 00:37:07.050 The Beachcombers. And Bruno Gerusi was the star and creator, 832 00:37:07.250 --> 00:37:07.570 I believe. 833 00:37:07.590 --> 00:37:11.150 I'm glad you got that right. That's some mail I 834 00:37:11.190 --> 00:37:11.869 don't have to answer. 835 00:37:11.889 --> 00:37:14.550 And we decided we had to go watch it be filmed. 836 00:37:15.469 --> 00:37:18.940 And we just became completely obsessed with this film and 837 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:19.519 with this show. 838 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.340 And with one particular character. We decided there was one 839 00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:26.929 particular character on it who... Didn't have many lines. And 840 00:37:26.969 --> 00:37:30.050 we decided we have to meet him. And we made 841 00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:32.349 a promise to ourselves. We're going to shake his hand 842 00:37:32.389 --> 00:37:36.010 before we leave Vancouver. And then we went and we 843 00:37:36.030 --> 00:37:40.030 got reporters notebooks and we're interviewing people all over town, 844 00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:42.309 pretending we're reporters. And then someone, someone. 845 00:37:42.329 --> 00:37:44.510 We went to the CBC. We found out they were 846 00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:49.179 shooting at Gibson's Island, which I, I've now I'm like 847 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.039 in that community a little bit. Cause I shot upload 848 00:37:52.099 --> 00:37:53.030 up in Vancouver and. 849 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.000 You've returned to the scene of the crime. 850 00:37:56.019 --> 00:37:59.909 I've returned, yes. People send me Beachcombers shirts, like all 851 00:37:59.949 --> 00:38:03.170 the crew that I worked with there. Yeah, and we 852 00:38:03.289 --> 00:38:07.829 had to get to Gibson's in time to go back 853 00:38:07.849 --> 00:38:11.269 to Seattle to get our flight. And we were running 854 00:38:11.309 --> 00:38:13.250 out the clock trying to figure out how to get 855 00:38:13.289 --> 00:38:17.690 to the set. And we missed the ferry that goes 856 00:38:17.710 --> 00:38:20.849 to Gibson's. And it was the last ferry. There would 857 00:38:20.869 --> 00:38:22.860 be no way to get there. So then we went 858 00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:25.699 down to the docks and we started talking to fishermen. 859 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.550 And we explained our situation. This sounds like a TV show. Yes. 860 00:38:30.750 --> 00:38:33.829 And we paid some guy to go

faster than the 861 00:38:33.869 --> 00:38:35.469 ferry in his little fishing boat. 862 00:38:36.090 --> 00:38:39.429 And we're so excited. We jump in this boat and 863 00:38:39.469 --> 00:38:42.230 we're beating the ferry. And we're like, yeah, we're going 864 00:38:42.250 --> 00:38:45.610 to get to the island before the ferry. And then 865 00:38:45.650 --> 00:38:48.679 we get on the island. And then someone tells us 866 00:38:48.739 --> 00:38:53.019 the character we want to shake hands with. He says, oh, yeah. No, 867 00:38:53.059 --> 00:38:56.199 I think he lives over on Mapleton Avenue. You and 868 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.989 I fan out and you take one- We're pounding on doors. 869 00:38:59.050 --> 00:38:59.449 No! 870 00:38:59.650 --> 00:39:03.579 We're pounding on doors randomly going, you know, open up! 871 00:39:03.739 --> 00:39:06.510 And so- Greg took the north side of the street. 872 00:39:06.590 --> 00:39:08.590 I took the south side of the street. And then 873 00:39:08.869 --> 00:39:10.429 I'm banging on my seventh door. 874 00:39:10.570 --> 00:39:11.090 Door opens. 875 00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.780 There's the guy. And I'm like, hold on a second. Greg, Greg, Greg. 876 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.440 Greg comes running. We both shake his hand. He doesn't 877 00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:18.460 know what's happening. 878 00:39:18.539 --> 00:39:22.219 He's just accepting that he's got fans from L.A. that 879 00:39:22.409 --> 00:39:23.260 have made the pilgrimage. 880 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.309 He's happy. And we did this. 881 00:39:26.329 --> 00:39:28.989 But then we have to get on. The ferry has 882 00:39:29.469 --> 00:39:31.880 docked in putting on cars. And that's our last chance 883 00:39:31.940 --> 00:39:33.739 to make our flight to get back to that ferry. 884 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.480 The one that we, we beat. And we start running 885 00:39:37.539 --> 00:39:40.159 down the street trying to get to the ferry. And 886 00:39:40.219 --> 00:39:42.239 this woman in a Jeep picks us up. You remember that? 887 00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:44.909 We were, we hitched like this woman. We explained it 888 00:39:44.989 --> 00:39:49.070 to her. She completely loved the, got into the spirit 889 00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:52.570 of it. She like gunned it towards the ferry, went 890 00:39:52.730 --> 00:39:55.190 into the wrong way down a street because like the 891 00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:58.610 ferry line for the next ferry was already there. And 892 00:39:59.289 --> 00:40:00.190 so we had to kill her. 893 00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:03.510 No witnesses. 894 00:40:03.530 --> 00:40:05.170 That was the plan. 895 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:09.969 Still unsolved. But, you know, so flash forward years, Greg's 896 00:40:10.219 --> 00:40:13.159 gone on to create half the TV shows people have watched. 897 00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:17.139 And I've gone to my foolishness. And one day I 898 00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:20.280 get this, someone tells me, Ari Emanuel, the famous Ari 899

00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:24.269 Emanuel's on line one, agent to the stars. He's like, 900 00:40:24.309 --> 00:40:26.690 I just talked to Greg. He told me the story 901 00:40:26.730 --> 00:40:27.289 of you guys. 902 00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:29.329 He thought it would be a movie. 903 00:40:29.409 --> 00:40:33.110 And he said, it's a movie. And I said very calmly, no, Ari, 904 00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:33.670 it's not. 905 00:40:34.750 --> 00:40:35.469 It's an anecdote. 906 00:40:35.510 --> 00:40:38.630 It's two nerds doing something very nerdy. 907 00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:39.050 Yeah. 908 00:40:39.349 --> 00:40:41.969 If anecdote film starts making films, then maybe. 909 00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:45.090 But Ari's got really good instincts. And so I don't know. 910 00:40:45.179 --> 00:40:47.369 Maybe that should have been. The next project. 911 00:40:47.389 --> 00:40:50.730 That'll be the next thing we do. So I knew 912 00:40:50.829 --> 00:40:53.909 early on that you were very interested in what turned 913 00:40:53.929 --> 00:40:57.019 out to be stuff that most people like, which is 914 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.139 character development, story arcs. And I was always like, what? 915 00:41:00.860 --> 00:41:03.429 You know, it should be a sketch that's three minutes 916 00:41:03.489 --> 00:41:06.190 long and it should have a masturbating bear in it. 917 00:41:06.250 --> 00:41:08.750 And you'd go, uh-huh. Yeah, but what happens to the 918 00:41:08.769 --> 00:41:12.829 bear over time? And so we decide, you start, I 919 00:41:12.909 --> 00:41:15.190 remember initially you were writing, I did an extra season 920 00:41:15.250 --> 00:41:19.929 on SNL. You start working on a screenplay. Then you 921 00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:22.530 start working on these different things. I know that you worked, 922 00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:25.639 you did work on The Simpsons. You did work on, 923 00:41:26.539 --> 00:41:30.400 for Seinfeld. And then you team up, you and Mike 924 00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:33.199 Judge do King of the Hill, I think was the, was, 925 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:37.670 and which was- Yes. Fantastic. 926 00:41:38.349 --> 00:41:40.590 Thank you. That was a lot of fun. And it's 927 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.159 coming back. 928 00:41:41.659 --> 00:41:41.900 Yes. 929 00:41:42.019 --> 00:41:42.280 August 4th. 930 00:41:42.780 --> 00:41:44.400 Yeah. Season 14. Yeah. 931 00:41:44.739 --> 00:41:48.260 It's coming back. And you are in this period right now, 932 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.489 a real purple patch, which is. 933 00:41:50.510 --> 00:41:51.789 I don't know what that means. 934 00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:56.750 Purple patch, that usually means like a very creative sweet 935 00:41:56.809 --> 00:42:00.539 spot because... Um, King of the Hill is coming back. 936 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.929 You're also launching a season. 937 00:42:04.449 --> 00:42:06.230 Upload is coming. Final season. 938 00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:07.150 Final season of Upload. 939 00:42:07.190 --> 00:42:08.130 August 25th. 940 00:42:08.469 --> 00:42:13.369 August 25th. You showed me the other day, your pilot episode, 941 00:42:13.389 --> 00:42:17.639 the first episode for the next generation of The Office. 942 00:42:18.139 --> 00:42:20.800 It's the, it's the new documentary by the same crew. 943 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:21.179 Yes. 944 00:42:21.219 --> 00:42:22.340 That's how we're describing it. 945 00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:25.099 Yes. It's not a, it's, it's not a reboot. It's not, 946 00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:28.619 it's nothing like that. You showed it to me. Which 947 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:29.940 I loved, by the way. 948 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.199 I really loved it. I like to slip you things. 949 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.429 I remember showing you and Beckett Parks and Rec. 950 00:42:35.590 --> 00:42:35.769 Yeah. 951 00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.630 And I get good feedback from Conan. 952 00:42:38.769 --> 00:42:41.409 Beckett said no. This can't work. 953 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:42.429 Yeah. 954 00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:44.889 Said cartoon in Texas. That's not going to work. And 955 00:42:44.909 --> 00:42:48.519 he was really vehement about it. And he was like, five. Yeah, 956 00:42:48.579 --> 00:42:52.320 I saw the this this latest the episode for this 957 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.659 latest show, the pilot. And it starts, if I'm allowed 958 00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:58.179 to say there's we can cut this out if it's 959 00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:01.260 not cool. But there's a moment that's very powerful where 960 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.099 the documentary crew is trying to find. 961 00:43:03.579 --> 00:43:05.980 It's well, it starts with them trying to find out 962 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.659 what's up with Thunder Mifflin. And they find out some 963 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.400 stuff and it leads them in a new direction to 964 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:13.980 a different city. 965 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:14.380 Yeah. 966 00:43:15.269 --> 00:43:20.099 In the different city, they stumble upon this historic newspaper, 967 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.320 which has kind of turned into a ghost newspaper, which 968 00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:24.860 I don't know if you're familiar with that. But that's 969 00:43:24.900 --> 00:43:28.320 when some other company buys a local newspaper and fires 970 00:43:28.429 --> 00:43:31.510 all the reporters and keeps it going, selling ads. But 971 00:43:31.590 --> 00:43:33.409 they just print wire stories. 972 00:43:33.630 --> 00:43:34.369 Wire stories, yeah. 973 00:43:34.489 --> 00:43:37.039 And so they see this and they kind of go, oh, 974 00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:39.659 that's an interesting subject for documentary. And then this guy 975 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.320 comes and he says, doesn't really have a lot of 976 00:43:42.340 --> 00:43:46.460 journalism experience. He's been selling toilet paper at another division 977 00:43:46.659 --> 00:43:50.019 of the company. But he loved being on his college 978 00:43:50.059

--> 00:43:54.079 newspaper and he wants to revitalize this newspaper. 979 00:43:54.099 --> 00:43:55.900 He wants to bring it back to a real paper. 980 00:43:56.340 --> 00:43:58.849 There's just a great scene in it that's, there's a 981 00:43:58.909 --> 00:44:03.690 lot about this new show that is putting a light 982 00:44:03.869 --> 00:44:06.949 on how much things have changed. So there's old documentary 983 00:44:06.989 --> 00:44:10.530 footage of the old newspaper in Toledo, Ohio. Yeah, yeah. 984 00:44:11.570 --> 00:44:15.090 And then they contrast it and you just see 150 985 00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:17.550 people working really hard on these giant machines, putting out 986 00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:21.429 the paper. And then you see this young woman who's 987 00:44:21.690 --> 00:44:23.909 an important character, but she's working at the paper and 988 00:44:23.929 --> 00:44:26.010 she's explaining to the documentary crew what they do. And 989 00:44:26.050 --> 00:44:29.340 she's just dragging and clicking AP stories and dropping them. 990 00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:33.239 And then a lot of it is just clickbait. There's 991 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.300 a thing that automatically tells you, is this too big 992 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:36.440 an article for this page? 993 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:37.480 Yes, it is. 994 00:44:37.539 --> 00:44:39.199 And then she has to pick a different article. And 995 00:44:39.219 --> 00:44:44.710 I thought, very smart to make it about this right now, especially? 996 00:44:45.010 --> 00:44:48.610 Well, it's, it's, you know, people have sort of counted 997 00:44:48.670 --> 00:44:52.070 out newspapers and there is something in the tone of 998 00:44:52.130 --> 00:44:56.250 the office that this sort of a poignancy of people 999 00:44:56.349 --> 00:44:59.409 doing their best in a situation that is not very 1000 00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:03.570 hip or people have kind of counted them out. And this, 1001 00:45:04.289 --> 00:45:07.590 this new show is got a little more maybe bad 1002 00:45:07.659 --> 00:45:12.880 news bears energy cause they are trying to do accomplish something. And, um, 1003 00:45:13.139 --> 00:45:16.280 you know, and they are more inspired than the team 1004 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.500 that worked at Dunder Mifflin. 1005 00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:20.380 And you're working with a guy who started out with me, 1006 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.039 Michael Komen. 1007 00:45:21.059 --> 00:45:21.340 Yes. 1008 00:45:21.579 --> 00:45:24.139 Michael Komen is one of my shout out to Michael Komen, 1009 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.530 one of my all time favorite late night writers, brilliant guy, 1010 00:45:28.739 --> 00:45:31.110 really funny. And he has enough on me to put 1011 00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:33.389 me in jail because he was. 1012 00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:35.860 Uh, Everybody does. 1013 00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:37.940 I was going to say more than Sona. 1014 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.320 I think I tackled him 50 times, physically

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myself occasionally as being very busy. And 1049 00:47:51.809 --> 00:47:54.150 then I look at what Greg's doing and you're doing 1050 00:47:54.150 --> 00:47:56.090 15 times the amount of work that I'm doing. 1051 00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:58.289 It's very rare that they all come out the same month. 1052 00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:01.590 I mean, that's like nuts. The paper is September 4th. 1053 00:48:01.610 --> 00:48:04.090 So between August 4th and September 4th, I have three 1054 00:48:04.409 --> 00:48:07.949 things coming out. But they've been years in development and 1055 00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:12.019 working on them and stuff. It's just random that they're. Right. Well, 1056 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.539 I noticed that I get at least I get an 1057 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.599 invitation here. I have to do three shows. I don't 1058 00:48:16.619 --> 00:48:20.179 know what some of the other guests do. I can't 1059 00:48:20.219 --> 00:48:21.469 imagine they have three shows. 1060 00:48:21.730 --> 00:48:25.949 The only guests I interview have an Emmy, a Golden Globe, 1061 00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:31.460 you know, the whole thing. And he got Tony Oscar. Yeah. 1062 00:48:31.619 --> 00:48:31.860 Yeah. 1063 00:48:32.409 --> 00:48:34.550 I've been rooting for you to get on this. And 1064 00:48:34.570 --> 00:48:35.250 I've been waiting. 1065 00:48:35.389 --> 00:48:35.730 I know. 1066 00:48:35.869 --> 00:48:38.730 It's up to Paula. When will Greg's career. 1067 00:48:39.769 --> 00:48:41.070 He said he called out Paula. 1068 00:48:42.590 --> 00:48:45.179 That's what Conan's been saying. He said, I want to 1069 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:46.380 get you on. But Paula. 1070 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.440 Paula Davis. Who we met at SNL. 1071 00:48:50.500 --> 00:48:51.219 At SNL, yes. 1072 00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:53.739 We met Paula at SNL the first day we showed 1073 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.190 up there in February of 1988. And I started talking 1074 00:48:56.210 --> 00:49:03.440 to Paula. And she was sitting behind a desk and 1075 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:08.019 she was really funny and quick. And I said, oh, 1076 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.539 she reminds me of my sister, Kate. I like this, Paula. 1077 00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:16.150 Cut to her, me hiring her the summer of 1993 1078 00:49:16.150 --> 00:49:19.349 to be the head booker at Late Night. And she's 1079 00:49:19.409 --> 00:49:24.949 still with me. a barnacle that cannot be removed. Um, 1080 00:49:25.570 --> 00:49:28.590 it's funny. I, I think about, I don't know about you, 1081 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.940 but I drive around Los Angeles. And when I'm in 1082 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.300 New York, New York, less so because it doesn't have 1083 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:41.949 the same associations, but, but in LA, uh, 85, 86, 87, 1084 00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:45.550 I'm constantly passing things. And I have a very strong 1085 00:49:45.670 --> 00:49:49.340 sense memory of you and I being there. You went 1086 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.059 off to get your ridiculous car. I decided I need 1087 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:54.980 to get a different car than this piece of junk 1088 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.079 we bought at the airport. No, I got a 19. 1089 00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.340 I decided I need to- Oh, no, yeah, you got 1090 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.170 a cool car. Well, it is- Was it like a 1091 00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:04.409 Dodge Dart or something? It's a- It's a Dodge Dart. 1092 00:50:04.469 --> 00:50:07.460 It's the car they drive on Dragnet. Yes, that was 1093 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.639 a good one. I wanted a car that looked like 1094 00:50:09.739 --> 00:50:14.800 I was a narc from 1972. So I got, and 1095 00:50:14.860 --> 00:50:19.260 the thing about my, it was a Plymouth Valiant, which 1096 00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.059 is the same thing as a Dodge Dart, pretty much. 1097 00:50:21.619 --> 00:50:24.659 And it was mustard yellow with a black interior, bench seats. 1098 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:28.380 And when you turned it off, the engine dieseled, which 1099 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:33.119 means it kept going. And I remember going on a 1100 00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:35.940 date and getting out of the car to go open 1101 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:39.530 the door for my date and opening the door. And 1102 00:50:39.570 --> 00:50:43.769 I had turned the car off. It was going. And 1103 00:50:43.829 --> 00:50:48.230 it was like. And just watching it and thinking, well, 1104 00:50:48.250 --> 00:50:50.070 this isn't going to happen for me tonight. 1105 00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:52.829 Well, I had a window air conditioner in the passenger side. 1106 00:50:55.050 --> 00:50:55.789 for my dates. 1107 00:50:55.849 --> 00:51:00.750 The car's a little, it's a little side heavy. I'm 1108 00:51:03.230 --> 00:51:08.050 trying to think of, I'm trying to think of, and 1109 00:51:08.070 --> 00:51:10.130 you know what's really fun, which is a really nice 1110 00:51:10.190 --> 00:51:15.349 memory for me? Hosting the Emmys and I thought of 1111 00:51:15.389 --> 00:51:17.949 this open that connected all the different shows that were 1112 00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:22.559 Emmy nominated. And my favorite transition. I always wanted to 1113 00:51:22.579 --> 00:51:24.000 think of a cool way to get from one show 1114 00:51:24.019 --> 00:51:26.300 to the next. At the time, Lost had just had 1115 00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:29.639 its first season. It was a huge hit, big show. 1116 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.820 Everyone's talking about it. So I wash up on the Lost. 1117 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.340 I'm going to the Emmys to host. My plane crashes. 1118 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:41.039 I wash up on the beach and I make myself 1119 00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:44.860 a hairdryer and get my pompadour going. And then I 1120 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:51.409 walk through the What's it called? The porch? The hatch. 1121 00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:54.340 The hatch. We find the hatch. And he said, we 1122 00:51:54.360

--> 00:51:55.610 don't know what's down there. And I said, well, I'm 1123 00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:57.699 going to find out. And I lower into the hatch 1124 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.039 and I went to Hawaii and shot this. So you can, 1125 00:52:01.219 --> 00:52:02.840 I think you can look this thing up online. I 1126 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.880 go down and suddenly my feet kick through something and 1127 00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:09.820 you cut to my feet going through acoustical tile on 1128 00:52:09.860 --> 00:52:13.460 a office ceiling. And I fall down onto Dwight's desk. 1129 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.480 And it's the entire cast of that original cast of 1130 00:52:17.500 --> 00:52:20.670 The Office. Suddenly, I'm in the confessional area where I'm 1131 00:52:20.690 --> 00:52:22.010 giving my testimony, whatever. 1132 00:52:22.030 --> 00:52:26.579 Well, you'd actually been like our one celebrity guest star 1133 00:52:26.820 --> 00:52:28.099 up to that point. That's right. 1134 00:52:28.139 --> 00:52:29.260 You guys came to 30 Rock. 1135 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.139 We went to 30 Rock, and Michael was in New 1136 00:52:32.179 --> 00:52:34.719 York for a meeting, and he was showing all of 1137 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:39.989 his favorite things, like his local pizza place, Sbarro's. And 1138 00:52:40.030 --> 00:52:43.519 he thought he saw Tina Fey going into— But it 1139 00:52:43.539 --> 00:52:45.219 wasn't Tina Fey. It wasn't Tina Fey. It was just 1140 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:47.659 somebody who looked vaguely like her. But then you walked 1141 00:52:47.699 --> 00:52:49.800 by and the camera saw you, but he missed you. 1142 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.579 He missed me. So I'm going by. And I remember 1143 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.920 just doing like two takes and I came downstairs from 1144 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.019 my show. But that was magical for me because our 1145 00:53:00.099 --> 00:53:04.590 different worlds, which are very diverse, came back together again. 1146 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.110 And you were directing me in your big hit show, 1147 00:53:10.230 --> 00:53:13.530 your second big hit show, And I was, uh, it 1148 00:53:13.550 --> 00:53:16.130 was cool. It was really, it was like a nice happening. Like, 1149 00:53:16.150 --> 00:53:18.690 wait a minute, we're the same guys that, well, maybe it's. 1150 00:53:18.550 --> 00:53:19.329 Being the same age. 1151 00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:19.690 I don't know. 1152 00:53:19.730 --> 00:53:21.739 There's a couple of things that go like that. Like the, 1153 00:53:21.809 --> 00:53:25.119 you hosting the Emmys when we won an Emmy and 1154 00:53:25.179 --> 00:53:28.159 there was something, um, what were you saying? Right. 1155 00:53:28.179 --> 00:53:29.559 We were both arrested at the same time. 1156 00:53:29.579 --> 00:53:30.059 Yeah. 1157 00:53:31.019 --> 00:53:34.679 No, but there, there's like things that things happen like that. 1158 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.260 No, but there was a lot of, there was a 1159 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.920 lot of neat little, that was a moment, um, getting 1160 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.889 to work with you on that. And then, uh, I 1161 00:53:41.889 --> 00:53:43.130 remember Steve Carell. 1162 00:53:43.409 --> 00:53:47.440 That's what I'm remembering. The Upfronts. This was hilarious. You 1163 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.860 were hosting the NBC Upfronts the year that we came out. 1164 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:51.199 Yeah. 1165 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.539 And I guess there was an enormous amount of overlap there. 1166 00:53:54.659 --> 00:53:58.079 But this was so funny to me because, and this 1167 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.079 is probably inappropriate, but the show that they were really 1168 00:54:02.139 --> 00:54:05.260 pushing hard was Father of the Pride. Uh-huh. Do you 1169 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:05.719 remember this? 1170 00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:06.119 Yes, I do. 1171 00:54:06.139 --> 00:54:07.179 It was the cartoon. 1172 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.250 A cartoon based on Siegfried and Roy. 1173 00:54:09.650 --> 00:54:12.630 And Roy had just been, it was about their tigers. 1174 00:54:13.170 --> 00:54:15.230 It was like, the idea was to take the Siegfried 1175 00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:18.050 and Roy's tigers and do a family show about them. 1176 00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:25.159 And it's animated. Dreamworks, I think. Yeah. And then literally 1177 00:54:25.219 --> 00:54:28.920 a month before it came out, one of the tigers 1178 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.320 nibbled on Roy's face. 1179 00:54:31.579 --> 00:54:39.860 Nibbled. He just had a nosh. And they were like, nope, 1180 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.559 this is actually good for the show. I remember they 1181 00:54:42.579 --> 00:54:43.260 were just like, nope. 1182 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.139 They cut to him, right? Like you were on stage 1183 00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.800 with all the advertisers and they decided they'd beam in 1184 00:54:48.099 --> 00:54:50.360 Roy in bandages saying, it's okay, it's okay. 1185 00:54:50.380 --> 00:54:51.179 Everything's okay. 1186 00:54:51.300 --> 00:54:54.480 I don't have any ill will to my tigers. 1187 00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:56.860 And to show that, the tiger was with him too. 1188 00:54:58.739 --> 00:55:05.239 Heavily sedated. Jaw wired shut. Anyway, yeah, there were all 1189 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.579 these moments where then our careers would come back together. 1190 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.760 But all this time, I'll tell you one thing is 1191 00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:14.380 I've learned a bunch of things about Greg. One is 1192 00:55:14.420 --> 00:55:17.119 that he doesn't want to just meet me at a 1193 00:55:17.179 --> 00:55:19.860 restaurant and have a meal. He wants to meet me 1194 00:55:20.420 --> 00:55:22.539 while we're doing something where our heart rate is up. 1195 00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:23.880 So you're always saying- I. 1196 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:26.340 Like walking with people. I like walking with

people. I 1197 00:55:26.590 --> 00:55:28.989 don't love having to look into people's faces when I'm 1198 00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:32.449 talking to them. I prefer- Some faces are different. 1199 00:55:32.469 --> 00:55:33.030 I don't know. 1200 00:55:33.929 --> 00:55:38.090 Sona, I might make an exception. Friendly face. 1201 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:41.000 But it's better. 1202 00:55:41.019 --> 00:55:45.019 It seems better to walk like parallel, right? 1203 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.460 Sometimes it's a little insane where I'll say, it'd be 1204 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:50.000 really nice to sit down and I'm hungry. I haven't eaten. 1205 00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.769 You haven't eaten. We could sit down and you're like, no. 1206 00:55:53.889 --> 00:55:57.130 I bring a bun with condiments in it for you. 1207 00:55:58.150 --> 00:56:01.909 He has a big backpack filled with 33-cent buns and 1208 00:56:01.969 --> 00:56:03.210 coleslaw and pickles. 1209 00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:05.670 Some things never change. 1210 00:56:05.769 --> 00:56:08.460 Yeah, and it's just, that's still what you want to do. 1211 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.019 That's what you wanted to do in 1985. My dad 1212 00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.739 always said people don't change. They become more so, and 1213 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:14.679 I think that's the case. 1214 00:56:14.940 --> 00:56:18.179 I think that's what I like about character comedy, just 1215 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:20.860 to talk about that genre. I think that's what people 1216 00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:23.500 like about it, is that you feel that way about 1217 00:56:23.539 --> 00:56:26.059 your own friends, and then to see somebody on TV... 1218 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.260 you get to know what their character is like and 1219 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.619 to see them act in character over and over again 1220 00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:33.699 is very, you know, makes you feel like, Oh, I 1221 00:56:33.739 --> 00:56:36.739 know them. That's just like Conan. Conan's Conan going like 1222 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:43.179 this with his vein popping. Have you guys seen that? 1223 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.800 I've been medicated since. 1224 00:56:46.110 --> 00:56:48.389 Well, yeah, we were back. I mean, I don't know 1225 00:56:48.409 --> 00:56:52.489 about you, but I've, I've enjoyed, we have a culture that, uh, 1226 00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:55.619 you know, says, Oh, uh, You shouldn't get getting older 1227 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.579 is not cool. It's not good. And I just know 1228 00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.920 that I'm happier now because. 1229 00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:01.179 Well, you're older than me, though. 1230 00:57:02.389 --> 00:57:04.269 Yes. This is. 1231 00:57:05.369 --> 00:57:05.510 Yes. 1232 00:57:05.550 --> 00:57:10.590 But I was on the lampoon first. Greg, there's a 1233 00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:15.260 two month. And I'm to April to June, April to June. 1234 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.159 So a lot more than two months. 1235 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.469 It's an eight week difference between our birthdays and. Greg's 1236 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.659 favorite time of year every year is when I'm 50 1237 00:57:27.659 --> 00:57:30.559 and he's 49. And what he does is he calls 1238 00:57:30.579 --> 00:57:32.539 me on my birthday and he says, how are you? 1239 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.019 Are you okay? And this goes on for eight weeks. 1240 00:57:37.059 --> 00:57:40.000 And then my favorite thing is when that time elapses 1241 00:57:40.019 --> 00:57:43.099 and it's his birthday, I call him up. And say, 1242 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.460 ha ha! 1243 00:57:45.739 --> 00:57:48.260 This is really cool. This art kind of bantered us 1244 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.760 in it. It is. This is like, you got to 1245 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.420 imagine Bill Burr's doing that with his friends. 1246 00:57:54.300 --> 00:57:54.539 Right? 1247 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:55.679 He's doing much cooler things. 1248 00:57:55.699 --> 00:57:56.380 No, I don't think so. 1249 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.460 He's doing much cooler things. I think this is maybe. 1250 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.139 Like what Jack Benny would do. 1251 00:58:01.889 --> 00:58:02.110 Nope. 1252 00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:03.260 With George Burns. 1253 00:58:03.309 --> 00:58:03.909 Maybe. 1254 00:58:04.150 --> 00:58:09.650 This feels like a very, maybe two Mormon comedians. Yeah. 1255 00:58:10.269 --> 00:58:13.269 I remember, very polite. It was Greg, speaking of birthdays, 1256 00:58:13.309 --> 00:58:15.739 I'll just, we were in Westwood together. We were walking 1257 00:58:15.780 --> 00:58:19.039 around doing nothing and it was Greg's birthday. And I said, 1258 00:58:19.059 --> 00:58:21.900 I've got a birthday present for you. Let's pretend we're 1259 00:58:21.980 --> 00:58:24.750 firing our talent beams at each other. as hard as 1260 00:58:24.789 --> 00:58:26.690 we can. And he was like, what? And I said, 1261 00:58:26.730 --> 00:58:30.019 just each will be fine. And I blasted you and 1262 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.820 nothing happened. Then you blasted me and I threw my 1263 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.820 coat off like I had been vaporized and stepped behind 1264 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.500 a light pole as if you were so much more 1265 00:58:38.539 --> 00:58:40.579 talented than I that it vaporized me. And I remember 1266 00:58:40.860 --> 00:58:41.679 you were pleased. 1267 00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:46.449 This was Conan's idea of a birthday present to me 1268 00:58:46.739 --> 00:58:49.619 to one day a year. suggest that I might have 1269 00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:53.949 some talent that I could do a joke better than him. 1270 00:58:54.010 --> 00:58:55.949 Was this recently or was this like? 1271 00:58:56.170 --> 00:58:57.269 It could have been recently. 1272 00:58:57.309 --> 00:58:58.409 I was going to say, I don't know. 1273 00:58:58.429 --> 00:59:00.869 This is like 1986, but it could easily have been 1274 00:59:00.889 -->

00:59:06.389 a couple of weeks ago. Easily. That's why I'm asking. 1275 00:59:06.449 --> 00:59:08.230 I don't know. Nothing's changed that much. 1276 00:59:08.329 --> 00:59:11.380 I was going to say, I mean, as a comedy fan, 1277 00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.739 I think the reason people want Greg on here is 1278 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.019 because the fact that the two of you worked together 1279 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.519 for so long before the two of you went on 1280 00:59:18.539 --> 00:59:22.519 to astronomical success on your own is... It's very rare 1281 00:59:22.699 --> 00:59:25.449 and it's really cool. I mean, it's cool for me 1282 00:59:25.469 --> 00:59:27.210 to be in the room with you two just talking 1283 00:59:27.230 --> 00:59:27.849 about this stuff. 1284 00:59:27.869 --> 00:59:31.210 It's funny to me that because I think back to 1285 00:59:31.510 --> 00:59:37.170 Greg just brought up. I am a some would say demonic. 1286 00:59:37.409 --> 00:59:39.969 I have a demonic various demons and I would sit 1287 00:59:40.590 --> 00:59:43.079 and I would be anxious. And so I would grind 1288 00:59:43.219 --> 00:59:47.280 my hands together. And if something wasn't coming, an idea 1289 00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.989 wasn't coming, I would grind. Greg would lean back in 1290 00:59:51.030 --> 00:59:55.530 his chair and he thought that by whipping his head 1291 00:59:55.630 --> 00:59:58.110 side to side, it would get blood into a part 1292 00:59:58.130 --> 01:00:01.039 of his brain and create an idea. So I'd be 1293 01:00:01.059 --> 01:00:04.320 sitting there. If there was a fly on the wall 1294 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.389 or a secret camera, it would have seen me pushing 1295 01:00:07.449 --> 01:00:10.150 my hair through my crazy long, pushing my hands through 1296 01:00:10.170 --> 01:00:10.329 my hair. 1297 01:00:10.349 --> 01:00:12.789 It's very like with Nail and I, the two of us. 1298 01:00:12.949 --> 01:00:16.949 There's a fun reference. 1299 01:00:17.510 --> 01:00:20.730 I was grinding my hands, my eye vein, my forehead 1300 01:00:20.769 --> 01:00:23.190 vein coming out, giant hair flying everywhere. 1301 01:00:23.250 --> 01:00:25.329 And then Greg has his eyes closed and is going. 1302 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.860 Anyone who came in there would say, you gotta medicate 1303 01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:41.480 them both immediately, right? Yes. Medicate these guys. Well, I don't, 1304 01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:44.480 I mean, usually I end these by saying, hey, excited 1305 01:00:44.500 --> 01:00:46.639 about the new project, but you can't do that with 1306 01:00:46.739 --> 01:00:52.099 Greg Daniels because it's last season of Upload, continuation of 1307 01:00:52.139 --> 01:00:55.510 King of the Hill, you have a, a new show 1308 01:00:55.590 --> 01:00:58.679 that picks up where the office it's, it's the documentary 1309 01:00:58.739 --> 01:01:03.320 crew that filmed the office has now gone forward and they're, uh, 1310 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:08.599 exploring this newspaper, which is tangentially related to Dunder Mifflin. Um, 1311 01:01:09.099 --> 01:01:10.239 did I forget anything? 1312 01:01:11.349 --> 01:01:13.630 Uh, I could talk about a few other things. 1313 01:01:14.050 --> 01:01:14.929 Oh my God. 1314 01:01:14.989 --> 01:01:15.730 It's insane. 1315 01:01:15.829 --> 01:01:19.539 I'm, connected to this show, Common Side Effects that people like. 1316 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:20.719 I love that show. 1317 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:21.400 You know what? 1318 01:01:21.780 --> 01:01:23.860 I haven't talked to you about Common Side Effects because 1319 01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.219 you were out of town when Beckett and I binge 1320 01:01:27.260 --> 01:01:30.070 watched it. I didn't even know you were, I watched 1321 01:01:30.090 --> 01:01:32.989 the first episode and loved it and then saw your name. 1322 01:01:33.389 --> 01:01:33.590 Yes. 1323 01:01:33.650 --> 01:01:35.750 So I didn't know that you were involved. 1324 01:01:36.269 --> 01:01:39.389 Uh, Mike Judge and I started an animation company about, 1325 01:01:39.409 --> 01:01:42.750 I don't know, five, six years ago. And, um, So 1326 01:01:42.789 --> 01:01:45.030 we are producers, and of course, he's very involved in 1327 01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:49.650 this because he's a voice. And it's done with this 1328 01:01:49.750 --> 01:01:53.750 amazing animation god named Joe Bennett and Steve Healy, who 1329 01:01:53.769 --> 01:01:55.590 was a writer on The Office, who you might know. 1330 01:01:55.969 --> 01:01:57.840 And yeah, it's a really good show. 1331 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.219 I watched it with my daughter, Nev, who loves anime. 1332 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.659 So we watched the first one, and then again, we 1333 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:08.920 were like, well, the next one, then the next one, 1334 01:02:08.940 --> 01:02:13.820 then the next one. Absolutely fantastic. And I started watching 1335 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.460 it not knowing about your guys' involvement. But have you 1336 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:19.460 seen it? I absolutely love it. 1337 01:02:19.460 --> 01:02:21.780 I've seen the whole thing. And yeah, similar thing. 1338 01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.760 I watched it because I love Scavenger's Reign. 1339 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:25.929 Which I think Joe Bennett did before. 1340 01:02:25.949 --> 01:02:28.809 And the CEO, I was like, God, that sounds like 1341 01:02:28.869 --> 01:02:29.429 Mike Judge. 1342 01:02:29.809 --> 01:02:31.630 Yeah. And then I was like, oh my God, it is. 1343 01:02:31.909 --> 01:02:34.949 And Greg Daniel? What is this? It's an amazing show 1344 01:02:35.670 --> 01:02:38.400 about kind of conspiracies. 1345 01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.869 It's very funny. The animation's beautiful. 1346 01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:43.550 It's also really sweet. It's the best animation I've seen 1347 01:02:43.570 --> 01:02:44.170 in a while. 1348 01:02:44.190 --> 01:02:44.730 It's incredible. 1349 01:02:44.750 -->

01:02:50.260 Because without giving anything away, watch Common Side Effects. And 1350 01:02:50.699 --> 01:02:52.800 I've seen it on a bunch of lists as if you're... 1351 01:02:53.539 --> 01:02:57.239 It's everywhere on these lists, these critics' lists of if 1352 01:02:57.260 --> 01:03:00.500 you're not watching this, then you're an idiot. And shout out, 1353 01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.619 because I know you're not just a fan of Upload, David. 1354 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.099 Oh, I'm obsessed with Upload? 1355 01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.030 Oh, thank you so much. It's so good. The whole 1356 01:03:08.090 --> 01:03:11.090 concept of it and like... just everything about it. It's 1357 01:03:11.110 --> 01:03:13.369 one of those shows that once the season would end, 1358 01:03:13.530 --> 01:03:15.909 immediately Google, when will the next one be out? 1359 01:03:15.989 --> 01:03:16.369 I know. 1360 01:03:16.510 --> 01:03:19.449 It's tough. Did you see season three? 1361 01:03:19.650 --> 01:03:19.889 I did. 1362 01:03:20.010 --> 01:03:24.409 Because season three is dropped during the writers and actors strike. 1363 01:03:24.530 --> 01:03:24.789 Right. 1364 01:03:24.969 --> 01:03:27.230 And I think there's a lot of fans out there 1365 01:03:27.269 --> 01:03:30.389 that may not have seen season three. The first two 1366 01:03:30.449 --> 01:03:34.969 seasons had a lot of push behind them, and then 1367 01:03:35.130 --> 01:03:38.090 we weren't able to publicize season three. So Season four 1368 01:03:38.170 --> 01:03:41.699 is the one coming out August 25th, and that is 1369 01:03:41.780 --> 01:03:45.039 the final season, wraps up all the stories. And, you know, 1370 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.389 if you haven't seen season three, you can go check 1371 01:03:47.409 --> 01:03:47.889 it out now. 1372 01:03:48.150 --> 01:03:50.090 This episode drops August 25th, too, so you can check 1373 01:03:50.110 --> 01:03:50.449 it out. 1374 01:03:50.739 --> 01:03:52.199 I don't even like that. Comes out today. 1375 01:03:52.219 --> 01:03:57.579 Upload comes out today. Oh, what a coinkydink. I wonder 1376 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.440 if a publicist was involved. Greg's publicist is Greg wearing 1377 01:04:01.500 --> 01:04:04.820 a wig. This was cut out on the tree piece, 1378 01:04:04.900 --> 01:04:07.389 I tell you. Now let's all go to Flaky Gates 1379 01:04:07.409 --> 01:04:11.510 for a bun. You're the Mrs. Doubtfire of publicists. 1380 01:04:12.130 --> 01:04:13.289 Yeah, that is. 1381 01:04:13.409 --> 01:04:21.639 And... I cannot end this without saying a big shout 1382 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:26.199 out to your parents because your parents, and I've said 1383 01:04:26.219 --> 01:04:29.179 this before to them, but your parents. 1384 01:04:29.219 --> 01:04:29.780 Well, they love you. 1385 01:04:29.969 --> 01:04:33.150 Well, they, they, and they were, they said to me, finally, 1386 01:04:33.210 --> 01:04:34.309 the son we've always wanted. 1387 01:04:34.329 --> 01:04:35.090 Exactly. 1388 01:04:35.630 --> 01:04:38.070 No, they, they let us. 1389 01:04:38.090 --> 01:04:39.730 They still want you to go to law school though. 1390 01:04:39.889 --> 01:04:43.639 I know. They think I fucked up. They, your parents 1391 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.780 let us use their apartment that, first crucial summer when 1392 01:04:49.820 --> 01:04:52.340 we had no place to live. And I think if 1393 01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:55.099 they hadn't done that, I don't know what our chances 1394 01:04:55.139 --> 01:04:57.800 would have been. But that's where we started really working together. 1395 01:04:57.820 --> 01:05:00.820 It got me out of Boston. It got us both 1396 01:05:00.900 --> 01:05:04.920 working together seriously. We wrote our packet. We sent it off. 1397 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:07.780 Your parents, too, though. I remember working out of your 1398 01:05:07.820 --> 01:05:11.409 parents' house and we went to see Spies Like Us. 1399 01:05:11.909 --> 01:05:14.869 They were not. Yeah, that's right. Boy, did we have fun. 1400 01:05:14.929 --> 01:05:18.480 Yeah, that was a big deal. Yeah. Remember that movie? Yeah, 1401 01:05:18.500 --> 01:05:20.219 we would see those kind of things. 1402 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:21.699 We would go see movies if we thought a girl 1403 01:05:21.739 --> 01:05:25.559 in a bikini was in it. Greg would see an 1404 01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.860 ad somewhere and he'd be like, there's a girl in 1405 01:05:27.900 --> 01:05:31.340 a bikini in the movie. We were true creeps long 1406 01:05:31.389 --> 01:05:32.889 before the internet was invented. 1407 01:05:32.969 --> 01:05:34.849 Spies like us, there was a girl in the poster 1408 01:05:34.989 --> 01:05:36.869 in a full length fur coat and we were excited. 1409 01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:40.110 She could see your face. 1410 01:05:40.130 --> 01:05:44.610 There's a nun in it, but she's a girl. You 1411 01:05:44.650 --> 01:05:46.719 could see her hands. 1412 01:05:46.739 --> 01:05:48.159 They poke out of the sleeves. 1413 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.679 We went and saw a witness because we went for 1414 01:05:52.699 --> 01:06:04.639 the action. That barn was erotic. Greg, we gotta do 1415 01:06:04.659 --> 01:06:08.639 this again. This was- We've scratched the surface. No, I'm serious. 1416 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:11.860 There could be maybe 15 episodes where we talk about 1417 01:06:12.139 --> 01:06:18.389 us in 85, 86 alone. And people would love that, but. 1418 01:06:18.409 --> 01:06:20.800 Well, that remains to be seen. Let's see how this goes. Well, 1419 01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:23.119 there's a lot of talk about us alone in 85, 86. 1420 01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.500 You may get some comments. This is the most boring. 1421 01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.230 I don't think so. Adam, you can weigh in. Adam 1422 01:06:30.250 --> 01:06:32.570 can weigh in. This is what people want to hear. Yeah, 1423 01:06:32.590 --> 01:06:34.510 this is what they want to hear. Sadly, it's

what 1424 01:06:34.530 --> 01:06:36.329 they want to hear. Because you know what? It makes 1425 01:06:36.369 --> 01:06:37.730 them feel better about themselves. 1426 01:06:37.750 --> 01:06:37.929 True. 1427 01:06:38.610 --> 01:06:39.949 Finally, you're humanized. 1428 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.760 Anyone listening to this suddenly feels like, hey, I'm a stud. 1429 01:06:44.900 --> 01:06:48.250 These turds didn't do anything. I have a couch. 1430 01:06:48.269 --> 01:06:51.449 My car has air conditioning. 1431 01:06:52.010 --> 01:06:53.250 I have an air conditioner in my car and I 1432 01:06:53.289 --> 01:06:58.949 have a couch. I'm still going out with the Mrs. 1433 01:06:58.989 --> 01:07:06.320 Fields girl. Well, Greg, you're go with God. You're killing it. 1434 01:07:06.349 --> 01:07:08.699 You're killing it. And I couldn't be happier for you. 1435 01:07:08.780 --> 01:07:11.460 Thank you. You too. Yeah. I love the show. 1436 01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:13.380 And you love me. I know you love me. And 1437 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:14.340 you're going to end by saying. 1438 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:15.469 You love me. I'll say it. 1439 01:07:15.539 --> 01:07:17.360 You didn't say it yet. No. I love you, Greg. 1440 01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:17.960 Love you, Greg. 1441 01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:20.320 Love you, Greg. Yeah. Love you, Greg. All right. Love 1442 01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:20.599 you back. 1443 01:07:20.619 --> 01:07:26.090 Peace out, Tupac. 1444 01:07:28.699 --> 01:07:32.469 Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, with Conan O'Brien, Sonam Ovsessian, 1445 01:07:32.730 --> 01:07:36.849 and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced 1446 01:07:36.889 --> 01:07:40.619 by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and Nick Liao. Theme song 1447 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.940 by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. 1448 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:45.400 Take it away, Jimmy. 1449 01:07:49.019 --> 01:07:52.179 Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair. And our associate talent 1450 01:07:52.219 --> 01:07:55.929 producer is Jennifer Samples. Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez 1451 01:07:56.010 --> 01:07:59.969 and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent 1452 01:07:59.989 --> 01:08:03.190 booking by Paula Davis, Gina Batista, and Brit Kahn. You 1453 01:08:03.210 --> 01:08:05.780 can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts, and 1454 01:08:05.820 --> 01:08:08.360 you might find your review read on a future episode. 1455 01:08:08.739 --> 01:08:11.460 Got a question for Conan? Call the Team Coco hotline 1456 01:08:11.500 --> 01:08:16.119 at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It, too, could be 1457 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.689 featured on a future episode. You can also get three 1458 01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:22.890 free months of SiriusXM when you sign up at SiriusXM.com 1459 01:08:22.949 --> 01:08:26.069 slash Conan. And if you haven't already, please subscribe to 1460 01:08:26.130 --> 01:08:28.550 Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend wherever fine. 1461 01:08:28.350 --> 01:08:46.140 Podcasts are downloaded. Good nights are about the people. The laughs. 1462 01:08:46.659 --> 01:08:49.399 The real moments you don't want to miss. So why 1463 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:54.449 step outside? Velo tobacco-free nicotine pouches fit seamlessly into your night. 1464 01:08:54.710 --> 01:08:58.050 Convenient and full of flavour. No breaks. No interruptions. 1465 01:08:58.569 --> 01:08:58.909 Velo. 1466 01:08:59.170 --> 01:09:03.079 Anytime, anywhere. nicotine pouches 18 and over contains tobacco free 1467 01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.430 nicotine and addictive substance if you're new to Velo start 1468 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:07.170 with Mello you should not use this product if you 1469 01:09:07.189 --> 01:09:08.729 do not already use nicotine. 1470 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.180 Due to the leaves falling in autumn and the challenges 1471 01:09:14.220 --> 01:09:17.460 this brings, Eireann Road Airan wishes to advise customers that 1472 01:09:17.500 --> 01:09:20.500 a revised timetable will take effect on Dart and Dublin 1473 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:25.500 commuter routes from Monday, September 21st until December 12th. Morning 1474 01:09:25.539 --> 01:09:28.539 and evening peak services will be affected with some earlier 1475 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.640 departure times. Please check travel times on the Eireann Road 1476 01:09:31.699 --> 01:09:35.779 Airan app or irishrail.ie. Eireann Road Airan is part of 1477 01:09:35.819 --> 01:09:37.229 the Transport for Ireland network.