Full Transcript for David Oyelowo Returns

00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:29.669 talk about, which makes me want to talk about it. No. 40 00:02:29.729 --> 00:02:30.090 Yeah. 41 00:02:30.469 --> 00:02:33.689 So tax time. Sona, you got your papers in order? 42 00:02:34.729 --> 00:02:37.310 No, I just remembered when we were talking about this, 43 00:02:37.409 --> 00:02:39.520 I said, oh, no, I got to send my accountant 44 00:02:39.539 --> 00:02:40.439 all my stuff. 45 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:42.599 Yeah, well, how hard is that? It's a lot. Do 46 00:02:42.620 --> 00:02:45.560 you have like a big shoebox that's filled with papers? No, 47 00:02:45.580 --> 00:02:48.599 that's the old. Why are you laughing? Because I do. 48 00:02:49.150 --> 00:02:51.969 All of the papers that are emailed are mailed to me. 49 00:02:52.009 --> 00:02:54.949 I just stick them in a thing, a folder. OK, so, yeah, 50 00:02:54.969 --> 00:02:57.449 it's like a shoebox, but I don't have like receipts. 51 00:02:58.000 --> 00:02:58.300 Okay. 52 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.349 I don't want to write my receipts. Okay. I don't 53 00:03:01.389 --> 00:03:03.349 do any of that. All right. So you just have 54 00:03:03.389 --> 00:03:04.810 some papers. Yes. And you got to get them to 55 00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:07.780 the accountant. Yeah. Like you probably do. That's a fun story. Oh, 56 00:03:07.789 --> 00:03:11.120 I don't touch anything. I live in a bubble. I'm a, 57 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:15.419 you know, I'm an LLC. I'm an offshore illegal company. 58 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.870 Do you know what I mean? Papers get moved around. 59 00:03:19.889 --> 00:03:23.490 You know, things are purchased and sold without my knowledge. 60 00:03:23.569 --> 00:03:25.909 And I'm just sitting in a geodesic dome covered in 61 00:03:26.009 --> 00:03:36.430 yak butter going, what's happening? What's happening outside? What's happening? Um, David, 62 00:03:36.550 --> 00:03:37.990 I don't even want to know what your story is. 63 00:03:38.169 --> 00:03:41.490 You still need to do mine too. Okay. We're all behind. Okay. 64 00:03:41.530 --> 00:03:45.449 But what do you have? Do you have, uh, papers, receipts, papers? 65 00:03:46.169 --> 00:03:48.840 So you employ me. Yeah. And so then I have to, 66 00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:50.620 I get those papers. I don't even know that. Do 67 00:03:50.659 --> 00:03:52.280 you get paid for what you do? I get paid. You, 68 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.219 you pay me. That's insane. I don't pay you a 69 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:56.580 faceless corporation. 70 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:56.979 Yes. 71 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:01.650 Again, I don't know what's happening. Um, Eduardo, what's your story? 72 00:04:01.710 --> 00:04:04.520 How do you get your taxes done on time? But 73 00:04:04.659 --> 00:04:07.219 who does your taxes? Oh, what a dick. Who does 74 00:04:07.259 --> 00:04:10.449 your taxes? Do you want me to give like a plug? No. 75 00:04:11.069 --> 00:04:12.409 Do you have an account? Do you have a guy? Yeah, 76 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:13.990 I have a guy. Because you know, my dad does 77 00:04:14.030 --> 00:04:18.050 his own. Your dad does his own? Yeah. Fraud! There's 78 00:04:18.069 --> 00:04:21.139 no way he's not breaking the law. How dare you? 79 00:04:21.220 --> 00:04:22.600 He came from another land. 80 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:23.100 What do you mean? 81 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.540 He doesn't know about our American ways. A lot of 82 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.819 people do their own taxes. They just fill in things 83 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.240 on the boxes. I know, but come on. Is he 84 00:04:31.300 --> 00:04:33.620 on the up and up your pops? Yeah, Gil is all, 85 00:04:33.689 --> 00:04:38.230 how dare you? What is your issue with my dad? 86 00:04:38.610 --> 00:04:42.050 You're just jealous he can grow a mustache. I love 87 00:04:42.069 --> 00:04:44.910 your dad. I love your dad. Gil is the man. 88 00:04:45.430 --> 00:04:51.750 But I'm just curious, you know, he came to this land, America, 89 00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:54.569 and I'm curious if he's familiar with all of our ways. 90 00:04:54.649 --> 00:04:58.129 And he's paying taxes. It's all going well. He's been 91 00:04:58.170 --> 00:05:02.029 here for almost 60 years. What? Takes a while to 92 00:05:02.069 --> 00:05:08.230 get used to stuff. You know, that's all. Oh, you're awful. 93 00:05:08.269 --> 00:05:11.180 You're awful. Look how you're smiling. You love it. You 94 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.240 love this version of you. This is you. This is 95 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:19.670 your real you. Halo. The real you. This is it. No, listen. 96 00:05:20.470 --> 00:05:23.009 What's this now? Blay, you've got something to say? I 97 00:05:23.050 --> 00:05:24.790 want to hear who does Blay's taxes. 98 00:05:25.089 --> 00:05:27.029 Not only do I have nothing to say, I'm trying 99 00:05:27.069 --> 00:05:29.009 to hide behind Sona's hair so you don't. 100 00:05:28.910 --> 00:05:31.529 Look at me. No, but who does your taxes, Blay? Okay. 101 00:05:32.370 --> 00:05:34.389 My mom does my taxes. 102 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:35.819 Your mom does your taxes? 103 00:05:36.100 --> 00:05:39.600 My mom, Mary Blair, bless her heart, does my taxes. 104 00:05:39.620 --> 00:05:41.300 That's sweet. Um. 105 00:05:42.410 --> 00:05:43.509 So, I'm sorry. 106 00:05:43.930 --> 00:05:46.769 It's a very emotional thing between the two of us. 107 00:05:47.350 --> 00:05:50.160 She demands to do it. It's back and forth. 108 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.120 She demands to do it. No, she does. I don't 109 00:05:53.139 --> 00:05:54.389 think she demands to do it. 110 00:05:54.740 --> 00:05:56.689 She absolutely demands to do it. 111 00:05:56.699 --> 00:05:59.069 So, she's on the phone with you saying, how come 112 00:05:59.089 --> 00:06:02.850 you spent this much on a Spider-Man flashlight? You know what? 113 00:06:03.449 --> 00:06:04.970 She actually is, but. 114 00:06:05.050 --> 00:06:08.060 Because you buy... Wait, wait, hold it. Wait a minute. 115

00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.079 You don't silence me on Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Okay, 116 00:06:11.180 --> 00:06:14.439 all right, fine. You take the punishment. Oh my God. 117 00:06:14.459 --> 00:06:18.029 So you have to talk to your mom about all 118 00:06:18.089 --> 00:06:23.670 the shit you buy, the video games, the... figurines, right? 119 00:06:24.050 --> 00:06:26.709 The swords. The swords. Yes, yes. Does your mom, and 120 00:06:26.730 --> 00:06:29.310 your mom, then your mom goes over all the stuff 121 00:06:29.329 --> 00:06:30.389 that you got. Yes, she does. 122 00:06:30.410 --> 00:06:30.819 Oh my God. 123 00:06:30.870 --> 00:06:32.970 Yes, but here's the thing that you don't understand. 124 00:06:33.370 --> 00:06:35.310 She's into it. She's into it. 125 00:06:35.449 --> 00:06:37.470 I get to talk to her about it. She does 126 00:06:37.509 --> 00:06:40.189 not say, oh, you bought a Spider-Man costume. She's like, 127 00:06:40.209 --> 00:06:42.180 how many Spider-Man costumes can we write off? 128 00:06:42.189 --> 00:06:44.079 That's nice. She's fully into it. Wait, how can you 129 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:45.740 write off? She asked me, she asked me. How can 130 00:06:45.779 --> 00:06:49.779 you write off a Spider-Man costume? Because I work for you. 131 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:50.720 What are you talking about? 132 00:06:50.740 --> 00:06:51.339 Wait a minute. 133 00:06:51.819 --> 00:06:54.680 Because you work for me, you're allowed to have the 134 00:06:54.740 --> 00:06:58.120 government pay for part of your Spider-Man costume? No, no, no. 135 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.199 The whole thing. No, audit him. Audit him. Audit him. 136 00:07:01.379 --> 00:07:02.959 You're blaming Gil. 137 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.439 You're blaming Gil for fraud. Look at this. Yes, I'm sorry. 138 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.579 I think you and Gil are guilty of fraud. It's 139 00:07:08.699 --> 00:07:09.379 all above board. 140 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.079 This is how good my mom, this is how cool 141 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:12.850 my mom is. She, I was going to go to 142 00:07:12.870 --> 00:07:14.750 the Renaissance Fair and she's like, maybe you should buy 143 00:07:14.790 --> 00:07:15.310 another sword. 144 00:07:15.649 --> 00:07:17.410 We could write that off. And I was like, okay. 145 00:07:17.449 --> 00:07:17.829 Wait a minute. 146 00:07:17.850 --> 00:07:19.480 Explain to me. How are we writing it off? Oh, 147 00:07:19.509 --> 00:07:21.370 wait a minute. I think we have a lawyer who's 148 00:07:21.389 --> 00:07:23.459 probably not in today, but he could join us. 149 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:24.089 I want to know. 150 00:07:24.129 --> 00:07:27.009 We should call on the phone. But listen, listen, why, why, 151 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.740 the fact that you work for Conan O'Brien doesn't mean that, 152 00:07:31.100 --> 00:07:34.540 that I just bought 900 pounds of silly string and 153 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:35.660 I don't want to pay for it. 154 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:37.019 If I can get you to talk about it on 155 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:38.689 the podcast and I bring it, guess what? 156 00:07:38.699 --> 00:07:41.370 Get you to talk about it? Get you to talk 157 00:07:41.410 --> 00:07:44.110 about it? Who has... So you're the puppet master? I'm not. 158 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:46.410 I'm just saying, I'm the worm tongue. I'm worm tongue. 159 00:07:46.449 --> 00:07:47.370 I whisper in your ear. 160 00:07:47.389 --> 00:07:49.769 You did talk about his sword. Wait a minute. This 161 00:07:49.889 --> 00:07:51.660 is clear to me. Who has talked about. 162 00:07:51.860 --> 00:07:54.399 Who has managed to bring in his sword two years 163 00:07:54.459 --> 00:07:54.860 in a row? 164 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:57.319 And his new axe. So that means Aaron Blair. This 165 00:07:57.420 --> 00:08:00.079 wasn't an idea that you thought was good for the podcast. 166 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.939 You thought, I've got to write this fucker off. And 167 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.420 I came in and I jammed it into the conversation. Conan, 168 00:08:06.459 --> 00:08:09.000 be fucked whether it's good or not. And then you 169 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.610 walk away and Uncle Sam takes it up the old 170 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.730 star spangled yin yang. It can be both. 171 00:08:15.850 --> 00:08:17.629 I can write it off and it can be good content. 172 00:08:17.649 --> 00:08:18.129 I don't like this. 173 00:08:18.149 --> 00:08:20.050 So if we talk about something on the podcast, it's 174 00:08:20.089 --> 00:08:22.209 a write-off? That's one. It's part of my job. 175 00:08:22.329 --> 00:08:23.550 I need it for my job. 176 00:08:23.589 --> 00:08:25.240 I got to write it off. So how's that Hilary 177 00:08:25.310 --> 00:08:30.300 Duff ticket going? The Backstreet Boys tickets? Write-off? You should 178 00:08:30.339 --> 00:08:32.519 talk to my mom. She would say write-off. You can 179 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.340 easily write it off. Is your mom a therapist? Is 180 00:08:35.379 --> 00:08:37.629 she even an accountant? No, she's a therapist. 181 00:08:37.649 --> 00:08:38.470 She uses TurboTax. 182 00:08:39.659 --> 00:08:44.740 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Your 183 00:08:44.779 --> 00:08:48.500 mom isn't even a tax accountant? No. Your mom is 184 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.159 not an accountant? No, not at all. And she's not 185 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:50.639 a tax? 186 00:08:50.950 --> 00:08:52.129 No, and she's actually bad at it. 187 00:08:52.129 --> 00:08:54.190 So your mom is insisting on doing it and then 188 00:08:54.230 --> 00:08:57.230 she just hires TurboTax? She doesn't hire it. And says, 189 00:08:57.269 --> 00:09:00.809 my son just bought seven Xena Warrior Princess chest plates? 190 00:09:00.830 --> 00:09:03.929 That's right. And we want our cash back? That's correct. Yes, 191 00:09:04.129 --> 00:09:06.840 that's exactly right. This is a... I'm dying. I'm dying. 192 00:09:07.080 -->

00:09:07.409 This is. 193 00:09:10.299 --> 00:09:17.169 There's just, we are. We are just rotten with fraud. 194 00:09:17.409 --> 00:09:20.789 There's just fraud permeating this whole... And I'm exposing it 195 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:23.929 right now. We're all going to get audited. 196 00:09:23.950 --> 00:09:26.429 But it's not fraud if it's good content. 197 00:09:26.629 --> 00:09:29.029 We're making a good... I haven't listened to this. I 198 00:09:29.049 --> 00:09:30.690 don't listen to this thing. I don't know if it's 199 00:09:30.730 --> 00:09:35.029 good content. Oh, my God. Okay, I want you investigated. 200 00:09:35.250 --> 00:09:37.009 I'm going to see to that. We're shutting this down. 201 00:09:37.029 --> 00:09:39.029 Adam's crying in the corner. Adam, Adam, Adam. 202 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:40.210 I've never seen Adam laugh this way. 203 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.080 Adam, I don't know what you're doing. You're supposed to 204 00:09:42.100 --> 00:09:46.679 be running this thing. You're the podcast whisperer. I feel really, 205 00:09:46.700 --> 00:09:50.500 I'm offended by Blake. I'm really offended. I really feel 206 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.230 like we've all been taken advantage of. He comes in 207 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.090 with this shit. I'm shocked. And he's like, I'm just 208 00:09:55.129 --> 00:09:58.250 trying to help the podcast. Oh, help the podcast. The 209 00:09:58.269 --> 00:10:02.179 podcast is a juggernaut. this thing's a you can't beat 210 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:05.120 this thing with a stick and then you come in 211 00:10:05.210 --> 00:10:10.389 here with your princess galactica helmet and we're supposed to 212 00:10:11.710 --> 00:10:17.029 get you off the hook Unbelievable. It's such a scam. Unbelievable. 213 00:10:17.049 --> 00:10:20.000 There are inner city schools that don't have computers, but 214 00:10:20.019 --> 00:10:25.559 this guy has Xena warrior princess swords. Turbo tax plot 215 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:28.669 twist is my favorite thing ever. Turbo tax. Keep bringing 216 00:10:28.769 --> 00:10:29.990 up Xena warrior princess. 217 00:10:32.379 --> 00:10:36.779 You've brought her up so many times. 218 00:10:37.259 --> 00:10:39.919 Lucy Lawless was brought to my house once at a 219 00:10:39.970 --> 00:10:43.970 party by someone on staff who brought Lucy Lawless. And 220 00:10:44.009 --> 00:10:46.990 I was like, what is Lucy Lawless doing here? I 221 00:10:47.049 --> 00:10:49.990 love her. She was great. Frank Smiley brought her to 222 00:10:50.029 --> 00:10:52.000 my apartment. Oh, that makes sense. And he was like, look, 223 00:10:52.259 --> 00:10:56.899 I brought Lucy Lawless. And I'm like, I don't know her. Well, 224 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.419 you'd know her now. Anyway, that got you off the hook, 225 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:06.600 my Lucy Lawless story. Okay. Good Lord. My guest today 226 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.259 starred in such movies as Selma, Lincoln, and The Butler. 227 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.720 Now you can see him in the new film, Newborn. 228 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:18.779 This man is a delight. He's a massive talent and 229 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.460 a real joy. And I'm so happy he's back on 230 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:28.230 the podcast. David Oyelowo, welcome. 231 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.399 Every time I think of you, it elicits good thoughts. 232 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:36.700 Oh, that's so nice of you. 233 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:37.620 It's true. 234 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:42.120 I can return that favor because not long ago, our booker, 235 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:45.830 Paula Davis, brought up your name and said that you 236 00:11:45.950 --> 00:11:49.350 might be coming back. And I immediately said, I love 237 00:11:49.429 --> 00:11:53.990 that guy. You are so funny. And we just had 238 00:11:54.029 --> 00:11:55.009 a joyous time. 239 00:11:55.029 --> 00:11:55.269 Yeah. 240 00:11:55.870 --> 00:11:57.590 In our last interview, so I was so happy you 241 00:11:57.610 --> 00:11:58.250 could come back. 242 00:11:58.389 --> 00:11:58.669 Yes. 243 00:11:58.809 --> 00:12:00.350 Really thrilled to have you. Thank you. 244 00:12:00.429 --> 00:12:01.330 Thanks for having me again. 245 00:12:01.429 --> 00:12:03.899 And you're in a good mood. You came in. 246 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:04.840 I am. 247 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.919 I asked you about your family. You said everything's going well. Yes. 248 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:11.820 I told you that my eldest son proposed to his 249 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.200 girlfriend last night. 250 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:14.379 Last night? 251 00:12:14.460 --> 00:12:15.559 Last night. 252 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.870 And I just watched a video of it. Yeah. Which 253 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:23.009 then I reposted. Oh, no. Yeah, I got excited. 254 00:12:23.029 --> 00:12:23.110 Yeah. 255 00:12:23.750 --> 00:12:26.710 Damn it. Yeah. And guess what? I put ads on it. 256 00:12:27.309 --> 00:12:31.480 You monetized it? I monetized it. And I'm making a 257 00:12:31.580 --> 00:12:33.039 lot of money right now. I'm just impressed you knew 258 00:12:33.059 --> 00:12:37.600 how to repost. No, it was a really beautiful moment. 259 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:40.870 And you must be overjoyed. 260 00:12:41.179 --> 00:12:43.669 I can't even begin to tell you. It just brought 261 00:12:43.710 --> 00:12:47.450 back so many memories because I proposed to his mom. 262 00:12:47.970 --> 00:12:51.389 when she was 19 and I was 21. So we 263 00:12:51.429 --> 00:12:55.769 were babies. They're 23 and 24. My son's 24. And 264 00:12:55.809 --> 00:12:59.149 it just brought back all the memories of proposing to 265 00:12:59.230 --> 00:13:01.320 my wife and watching this video. I was on a 266 00:13:01.409 --> 00:13:05.340 plane from New York last night and my wife sent 267 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:08.059 me a text which came through as an iMessage and 268 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.659 then she sent the video and it wouldn't

download. 269 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:11.769 Oh my God. 270 00:13:11.820 --> 00:13:14.659 And I couldn't get on the Wi-Fi and it was just, 271 00:13:14.779 --> 00:13:20.460 it was interminable. Just saying downloading, downloading, downloading, downloading, you know, 272 00:13:20.500 --> 00:13:22.340 just to not be able to. And then it finally 273 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.340 came through. And I just said, and you know, there's 274 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.419 something about the oxygen on planes that makes you more emotional. 275 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:33.370 And so like watching, I just, the feels were just roiling. 276 00:13:34.049 --> 00:13:35.149 So I am over the moon. 277 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.440 Well, congratulations to everybody. Thank you. I can't wait to 278 00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:44.139 go to the wedding. Awkward. So presumptuous. Presumptuous. He pushed 279 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.740 the video, then invites himself to the wedding. Oh, my goodness. Well, 280 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:50.679 I'm sorry. I'm just thrilled to be there and to 281 00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:55.879 get to sing a song. My dream. Now, you jest 282 00:13:56.019 --> 00:14:00.190 about this. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. 283 00:14:00.289 --> 00:14:04.190 Well, I only say that because my mom, God rest 284 00:14:04.210 --> 00:14:09.450 her soul, for all of my childhood, threatened to sing 285 00:14:09.509 --> 00:14:14.649 at my wedding. Now, the reason why you may sense 286 00:14:14.690 --> 00:14:17.549 a bit of trauma as I start telling this story 287 00:14:18.210 --> 00:14:21.330 is my mother was also tone deaf. 288 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:22.509 Yeah. 289 00:14:22.909 --> 00:14:25.029 And she would insist... Also tone deaf. 290 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:30.000 Oh. We didn't want to tell you, so we had 291 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.639 him come to tell you. Who's the other person in 292 00:14:32.659 --> 00:14:33.799 this story who's tone deaf? 293 00:14:33.940 --> 00:14:34.019 We. 294 00:14:34.809 --> 00:14:37.990 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 295 00:14:38.529 --> 00:14:42.710 And she would take to singing when I was watching 296 00:14:42.789 --> 00:14:46.259 my cartoons, which is incredible. When I tell you, so 297 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:47.139 she goes. 298 00:14:47.730 --> 00:14:57.570 That. 299 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.659 Is the soundtrack of my childhood. 300 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:00.879 And you're just trying to enjoy your cartoons. Literally. 301 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:04.259 Like, mommy, I can't hear David Banner. 302 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:05.820 I can't hear. 303 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.360 The Incredible Hulk. And she was rebuking the name of Jesus. 304 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:15.789 Are you telling me I cannot sing? So that's the 305 00:15:15.870 --> 00:15:18.230 backdrop to her saying, one day I'm going to sing 306 00:15:18.269 --> 00:15:25.909 at your wedding. And so we had managed, because she 307 00:15:25.970 --> 00:15:29.700 wanted to sing during the ceremony, the wedding ceremony, and 308 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.059 we're like, absolutely no way. Do not let a mic 309 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:32.919 anywhere near her. 310 00:15:32.940 --> 00:15:35.200 It got to the speeches. 311 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:44.090 And just picture it. There's a high table. My dad 312 00:15:44.509 --> 00:15:49.179 finishes making his speech, is passing the mic to my 313 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:50.539 best man, and all of a sudden. 314 00:15:50.779 --> 00:15:51.500 Oh, my God. Everybody! 315 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.980 I'm going to sing a song because I like to sing. 316 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:07.409 Not because it's my wedding. Not in like, just because I. 317 00:16:07.389 --> 00:16:11.629 Like to sing. Like to sing. 318 00:16:12.269 --> 00:16:24.799 Life's journey beginning when you are in love. 319 00:16:24.860 --> 00:16:27.080 At the end of every verse, everyone goes. 320 00:16:33.350 --> 00:16:38.330 That's just screaming. Five verses. Five. 321 00:16:39.629 --> 00:16:42.360 She gets a standing ovation. 322 00:16:42.460 --> 00:16:42.840 Yes. 323 00:16:42.860 --> 00:16:46.879 Of course. Because of the relief. Yes. That had stopped. 324 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:50.259 But her interpretation, you see, if I made an album, 325 00:16:50.299 --> 00:16:54.350 it would sell like hot cake. 326 00:16:54.379 --> 00:16:55.629 Well, see, this is perfect. 327 00:16:56.490 --> 00:16:57.049 You need. 328 00:16:57.980 --> 00:16:59.940 You need to go full circle and you need to 329 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.720 have that moment for your son and his bride to be. 330 00:17:03.940 --> 00:17:05.279 And I can do that for you. 331 00:17:05.460 --> 00:17:05.579 Wow. 332 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:07.680 I can do that for you. It's just, I'm going 333 00:17:07.700 --> 00:17:08.559 to put it out there. 334 00:17:08.819 --> 00:17:09.279 Thank you. 335 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.559 And then you're going to let it drop. And yes, 336 00:17:11.779 --> 00:17:16.539 I never mentioned it again. You're going to start getting 337 00:17:16.579 --> 00:17:19.420 calls from your publicist. Conan keeps. What? Conan wants to 338 00:17:19.460 --> 00:17:24.390 know when. He wants to bring his tuba. He plays 339 00:17:24.430 --> 00:17:24.910 the tuba. 340 00:17:26.069 --> 00:17:29.089 Since he posted that video, he just will not stop calling. 341 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.259 Well, that's really, you know, I don't know if you 342 00:17:33.299 --> 00:17:38.259 have this, but you went through this, you got married, 343 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.400 you said when you were 21, 22, 22. And I 344 00:17:42.009 --> 00:17:44.529 always have this all the time where I think I'll 345 00:17:44.549 --> 00:17:46.509 have done something when I was 22. But now that 346 00:17:46.549 --> 00:17:50.269 I have children that age and approaching that age, I 347 00:17:50.309 --> 00:17:53.049 always think they're too young to be doing any of 348 00:17:53.150 --> 00:17:55.799 the things

that that I was doing at that age. 349 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.950 Absolutely. They can't be walking down the street by themselves. 350 00:17:59.970 --> 00:18:04.549 They're too young. What do you mean you went to 351 00:18:04.630 --> 00:18:09.309 an ATM and got some money? That's something an adult does. 352 00:18:09.369 --> 00:18:12.609 And it's this strange. We all do it. You're going 353 00:18:12.630 --> 00:18:15.119 to do it with your kids where your kids are, 354 00:18:15.190 --> 00:18:16.890 you know, your kids are four now. 355 00:18:16.910 --> 00:18:17.569 They're four. 356 00:18:17.589 --> 00:18:20.230 But you're going to see that when they're 19, the 357 00:18:20.809 --> 00:18:23.269 idea of them doing anything that you did at 19 358 00:18:23.269 --> 00:18:26.809 is going to be just insane. horrifying well even. 359 00:18:26.690 --> 00:18:29.420 Now them having a complete thought and i'm blown away 360 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:30.799 like just finishing. 361 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:32.019 A whole sentence and i'm. 362 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.119 Like when did this happen. 363 00:18:33.579 --> 00:18:36.440 Yeah yeah yeah yeah no it it is the joy 364 00:18:36.500 --> 00:18:38.819 about being a parent but it is also terrifying i 365 00:18:38.859 --> 00:18:42.509 mean like jess was literally 19 when we got engaged 366 00:18:42.549 --> 00:18:46.829 my daughter my youngest is 14 the idea that in 367 00:18:46.910 --> 00:18:50.589 five years right i mean it's it's a ridiculous thought 368 00:18:50.630 --> 00:18:52.589 but my dad my dad didn't get married till he 369 00:18:52.630 --> 00:18:54.539 was 40 didn't have me till he was 42 so 370 00:18:55.549 --> 00:18:57.349 And he was my hero. So I just thought that's 371 00:18:57.410 --> 00:19:01.190 what I will do. And then I met this woman 372 00:19:01.250 --> 00:19:05.890 who I just couldn't picture any future days without her 373 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.119 in it. And it just happened early. And I remember 374 00:19:09.170 --> 00:19:13.619 going to my dad and saying, this is the woman 375 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:19.000 I want to marry. And he was just like, absolutely not. 376 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:23.920 It is way too early. It is irrational. And I 377 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:26.720 remember saying to him, well, You're invited to the wedding 378 00:19:26.740 --> 00:19:29.079 if you want to come. If not, I'm doing this. 379 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.809 And that was my position on it. And he had 380 00:19:33.849 --> 00:19:37.630 to kind of find his way to the reality of that. 381 00:19:37.809 --> 00:19:42.289 And two biggest decisions of my life were in defiance 382 00:19:42.329 --> 00:19:44.750 of my dad, who I married and the profession I 383 00:19:44.789 --> 00:19:46.710 went into. Oh, he was not a fan of you 384 00:19:46.730 --> 00:19:49.789 becoming an actor? No, no. He said, why do you 385 00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:51.140 want to go and be a jester? 386 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:52.220 Yeah,

that's right. 387 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.890 Yeah. Which is what you do for a living. 388 00:19:55.609 --> 00:19:59.509 Oh, Fern! No, I... And accurate. 389 00:19:59.569 --> 00:20:00.289 No, I. 390 00:20:00.430 --> 00:20:04.269 I gave myself a layup. That was terrible. Why did 391 00:20:04.309 --> 00:20:07.309 I do that? You're so nice. I started this by 392 00:20:07.390 --> 00:20:11.500 saying I feel conanified. David, I see myself. 393 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:12.359 As. 394 00:20:12.299 --> 00:20:17.000 A visionary, and I see myself as a healer. I speak, 395 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.279 it looks like I'm a jester or that I'm clowning about, 396 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.869 but really I'm holding a mirror up to society and 397 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:32.349 healing it through my craft. Craft? 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But one in five children are 426 00:21:58.460 --> 00:22:00.839 missing a month or more of their school year. And 427 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:04.049 when they miss school, they miss out. Every school day 428 00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:07.890 is a new day. Visit gov.ie forward slash school attendance. 429 00:22:08.369 --> 00:22:09.890 An initiative of the Government of Ireland. 430 00:22:17.269 --> 00:22:20.789 Your last name is so spectacular. What does it mean? 431 00:22:20.829 --> 00:22:24.809 Is there a translation? Does it have a meaning? Yes. Oyelowo. Oyelowo. 432 00:22:25.289 --> 00:22:29.440 So Oyelowo is the Anglicized way of saying it. In Yoruba, 433 00:22:29.500 --> 00:22:32.400 it's Oyelowo. And don't try it. 434 00:22:33.730 --> 00:22:37.710 I don't want you to hurt yourself. Don't hurt yourself. 435 00:22:39.470 --> 00:22:41.349 But it means a king deserves respect. 436 00:22:41.529 --> 00:22:41.730 Wow. 437 00:22:41.769 --> 00:22:43.650 Is what it means. Yeah. 438 00:22:43.789 --> 00:22:47.490 So to have a last name that really means something. Great. 439 00:22:47.609 --> 00:22:49.109 Does your name mean anything? 440 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:53.240 IAN at the end of Armenian names means son of. 441 00:22:53.299 --> 00:22:55.240 So it's just son of Moses. 442 00:22:55.619 --> 00:22:55.859 Yeah. 443 00:22:56.779 --> 00:22:57.599 Mine's just a verb. 444 00:22:57.619 --> 00:23:05.089 Hopping. Hopping. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I almost hired Jack Skipping, 445 00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:09.130 but I went with David Hopping. I think Conan is 446 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:15.000 wide face. I looked it up once and I wasn't happy. 447 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:20.769 Broad of forehead. What is the O? The O, Brian? 448 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.509 I've heard people claim that it means you're related to kings, 449 00:23:23.529 --> 00:23:25.509 but then you walk around Ireland and you go, no. 450 00:23:27.910 --> 00:23:29.670 The internet says little wolf. 451 00:23:30.180 --> 00:23:31.849 Or little hound is what Conan means. 452 00:23:32.029 --> 00:23:32.230 Right. 453 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:36.430 Oh, okay. That's cute. I've never heard that before, so 454 00:23:36.450 --> 00:23:39.789 I think someone just put that in. It's also, it's 455 00:23:39.869 --> 00:23:46.819 little wolf and little hound. So your father, is this correct? 456 00:23:46.859 --> 00:23:48.640 Your father had tribal markings? 457 00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:49.319 Yes. 458 00:23:50.059 --> 00:23:52.160 And was it Yoruba is the tribe? 459 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:57.420 Yes, the Yoruba tribe. So yeah, he had four tribal 460 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.720 marks on both cheeks and he had the word ballet 461 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:05.049 written on his stomach. And this was done with blades 462 00:24:05.069 --> 00:24:08.970 when you were a kid. I know, really intense. But 463 00:24:09.650 --> 00:24:13.369 I grew up with my dad telling me that the 464 00:24:13.410 --> 00:24:16.380 reason he had these four slashes on his cheeks was 465 00:24:16.440 -->

00:24:21.549 because he had fought a tiger. And I completely bought it. 466 00:24:21.779 --> 00:24:24.940 And it was incredibly useful at school every time my 467 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.789 dad came to pick me up because anyone who was 468 00:24:27.829 --> 00:24:29.910 messing with me, I was like, you see that on 469 00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:34.109 my dad's face? Tiger. That was Tiger. 470 00:24:34.130 --> 00:24:35.410 Do you want that man mad at you? 471 00:24:35.470 --> 00:24:35.890 Exactly. 472 00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:38.390 That's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 473 00:24:38.529 --> 00:24:42.509 But we then moved to Nigeria and I got picked 474 00:24:42.609 --> 00:24:44.789 up at the airport by all of my uncles. And 475 00:24:44.869 --> 00:24:47.720 literally I was like, Did everyone fight tigers? 476 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.700 What is going on? That tiger got around. 477 00:24:53.829 --> 00:24:58.670 It just went rampant on my family, this tiger. 478 00:24:59.690 --> 00:25:02.849 I jumped in to save your dad, and I jumped 479 00:25:02.910 --> 00:25:05.440 in to save him, and I jumped in to save him. 480 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.779 So you were... Where were you born? You were born in. 481 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.019 I was born in Oxford, England. And I was there 482 00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:17.190 till the age of two, so I don't really remember it. 483 00:25:17.220 --> 00:25:20.089 Then we moved to London and I was there till 484 00:25:20.109 --> 00:25:23.150 the age of six. And then we moved to Lagos, Nigeria, 485 00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:25.349 and I was there till 13 before we moved back 486 00:25:25.529 --> 00:25:26.869 to London. 487 00:25:26.910 --> 00:25:28.890 I've been to Oxford twice and I just went for 488 00:25:28.910 --> 00:25:32.619 the second time, I want to say about five, six 489 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:37.910 months ago. And it is... it is hard not to 490 00:25:37.970 --> 00:25:41.759 feel erudite when you're walking around in that environment. And 491 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.220 people have asked me what it's like. And I say, 492 00:25:43.299 --> 00:25:45.880 it is the closest thing to Hogwarts on earth that 493 00:25:45.940 --> 00:25:50.079 I have encountered. I've never seen anything like that. And 494 00:25:50.099 --> 00:25:52.299 it's just got so much history. I know Cambridge is 495 00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.180 the same thing. You walk around these places that have 496 00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:57.920 been around for 800 years. I don't know how many, 497 00:25:58.259 --> 00:26:02.960 you know, and you think about all the insane talent 498 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:04.160 that walked those streets. 499 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:04.579 I know. 500 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.019 I think that's why my dad, really wanted to be there, 501 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:10.759 just to be around it, which is why I ended 502 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:14.059 up being born there. And he decided he was going 503 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.740

to go into the medical profession until, as he tells it, 504 00:26:17.940 --> 00:26:23.190 he realized he had an apoplectic fear of blood. And so, 505 00:26:24.109 --> 00:26:25.930 you know, I can't remember if it was a day 506 00:26:25.970 --> 00:26:28.660 that they were supposed to be dissecting a cadaver or 507 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.049 something like that. And yeah, he was out cold that's. 508 00:26:31.950 --> 00:26:35.210 Not unlike my dad who went to medical school and 509 00:26:35.250 --> 00:26:39.900 then I think late in medical school was around you 510 00:26:39.940 --> 00:26:43.730 know patients and blood and said, I want to be 511 00:26:43.769 --> 00:26:49.390 in a laboratory. And he did great work there, but 512 00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:51.670 I think he wasn't up for that part. 513 00:26:51.910 --> 00:26:54.329 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, to find 514 00:26:54.369 --> 00:26:57.670 the thing it is that you truly love and that 515 00:26:57.710 --> 00:27:00.490 it loves you back is, I think, Elysium. My dad 516 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.339 took a while to sort of, I don't know that 517 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.759 he ever actually found The thing that he read, because he. 518 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.299 He would try a lot of different things? 519 00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:10.799 Well, he tried the medical profession, decided he didn't like blood, 520 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:13.619 so he wanted to be an architect, couldn't really draw. 521 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:19.640 I was going to say, but he hated houses. Fear 522 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.829 of houses. 523 00:27:22.950 --> 00:27:26.970 So, yeah, I mean, you know, the happiest he became 524 00:27:27.170 --> 00:27:30.529 ultimately was he and my mom ran a sort of 525 00:27:30.589 --> 00:27:34.099 minicab firm in in london so that yeah just driving 526 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:37.069 people around was the thing he sort of became happy with. 527 00:27:37.549 --> 00:27:39.789 Also i've always thought if i needed to pick up 528 00:27:39.970 --> 00:27:43.730 a second job i wouldn't mind being an uber driver 529 00:27:44.069 --> 00:27:46.819 because i love talking to people so much and i 530 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.200 love trying to find out what's going on in their 531 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.000 lives yes and filming them when they don't know i'm 532 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:59.910 filming what We'll get into that part later. That took 533 00:27:59.970 --> 00:28:03.150 a turn. But you know what's funny is your career, 534 00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:07.569 your start as an actor was, as all the best 535 00:28:07.609 --> 00:28:11.000 things are, a little bit accidental because you said there 536 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.630 was a I've heard that there was a or read 537 00:28:13.650 --> 00:28:16.750 that there was a subway strike happening. And you think 538 00:28:16.829 --> 00:28:19.930 that this contributed to you becoming an actor. And I'm curious, 539 00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:20.809 how does that happen? 540 00:28:21.109 --> 00:28:24.829 Well, because I was at this youth theater group that 541 00:28:24.890 --> 00:28:29.970 I'd only attended because I fancy this girl who, you know, 542 00:28:30.190 --> 00:28:33.490 I don't know that she knew it. And I just 543 00:28:33.549 --> 00:28:37.730 kept on going for her. But I was very shy. 544 00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:41.309 And I we were rehearsing a play. And I would 545 00:28:41.329 --> 00:28:44.950 always just sit, you know, hoping I would maybe be 546 00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:46.880 in the chorus or something so that I could keep 547 00:28:46.950 --> 00:28:49.859 seeing this girl. And then one day there was a 548 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.940 tube strike, like a subway strike. And the three guys 549 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.480 who were being touted to play the lead were all 550 00:28:56.539 --> 00:29:00.299 stuck on trains. And so the director said to me, David, 551 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.119 just read in while we wait for the guys to arrive. 552 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:06.359 For the real actors to come. Literally. 553 00:29:06.900 --> 00:29:09.880 And I very much thought of them as that. And 554 00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:13.019 I had the page and I guess I just did 555 00:29:13.059 --> 00:29:16.910 it the way I thought it should be done. And 556 00:29:17.970 --> 00:29:22.130 I finished this speech and the room just went completely silent. 557 00:29:22.170 --> 00:29:25.869 And I thought, oh, it was that bad. It was 558 00:29:25.950 --> 00:29:29.740 that bad that these people are speechless with how bad 559 00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:33.119 it was. And then three days later, I was cast 560 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.799 in the lead of this play. And although I didn't 561 00:29:36.859 --> 00:29:39.849 understand the significance of it at the time, this youth 562 00:29:39.869 --> 00:29:43.130 fair was at the National Theater, like the Royal National 563 00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:46.089 Theater of Great Britain on the South Bank in London. 564 00:29:46.789 --> 00:29:49.279 And so the very first thing I did was playing 565 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.180 the lead on what was then the Cottesloe stage, it's 566 00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:57.519 called the Dorfman Theater now, at the National Theater. And yeah, 567 00:29:57.619 --> 00:30:01.279 it literally happened because that That day, those guys didn't 568 00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:02.660 turn up. Wow. 569 00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:05.339 If I had been one of those guys, I would 570 00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.200 have suspected that you messed with the tube. I did. 571 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.849 I did mess with the tube. I absolutely did. That's 572 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.609 how my mind works. You know, you're down there. You're 573 00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:15.910 like switching the tracks. 574 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.150 Yeah, that was me. That was me. 575 00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:26.599 I knew a guy. You know, I've always noticed that

576 00:30:27.019 --> 00:30:30.839 it's not a rule to, but it happens about 95% 577 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.869 of the time that people from the United Kingdom actors 578 00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:38.849 are also sort of charming storytellers. And I have not 579 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:42.309 found that to be true in other places where someone 580 00:30:42.329 --> 00:30:45.779 can be a terrific actor, but it's almost like it's 581 00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:48.420 something in the water or it's something that's prized and 582 00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:55.559 respected that in Britain, Scotland, Wales, whatever, you have to be, 583 00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:58.579 or Ireland as well, You must be a good actor, 584 00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.640 but you must also be a raconteur. And it's almost 585 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.359 like that is taught when I know it's not. But 586 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.619 I think it's very much the rule. 587 00:31:06.980 --> 00:31:12.069 It actually is taught because you're around these actors who 588 00:31:12.380 --> 00:31:15.069 there is a tradition of it, actually. And as a 589 00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:19.529 young actor, what you're looking for is to sit at 590 00:31:19.609 --> 00:31:22.490 the feet of a Judi Dench or as I did 591 00:31:23.410 --> 00:31:25.970 with Judi Dench or Alan Bates or Ralph Fiennes or 592 00:31:26.009 --> 00:31:29.420 Kenneth Branagh. You know, these are people I literally had 593 00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:31.950 the opportunity to work with. Like, I did a film 594 00:31:32.009 --> 00:31:33.690 called As You Like It with Kenneth Branagh. I did 595 00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:36.670 a show with Judi Dench. I did a show with 596 00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:42.700 Alan Bates. I worked with actors who were awe-inspiring when 597 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.240 you were on stage with them. They had mastered the craft. 598 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.960 And what I mean by that is... When you get 599 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.730 on the Royal Shakespeare Theatre stage in front of, I 600 00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:57.970 think that stage is about 100, well, 1,500 people or 601 00:31:58.690 --> 00:32:02.109 on the Olivier, which I think is maybe 1,200 people. 602 00:32:02.910 --> 00:32:07.200 When you see someone be nervous in the wings, someone 603 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:11.750 who you watched in the rehearsal room Playing with language 604 00:32:12.049 --> 00:32:15.539 like Shakespeare that is four to five times our vocabulary 605 00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:18.119 and finding their way to the truth of it, finding 606 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.759 their way to the meaning of it, and finding different 607 00:32:21.859 --> 00:32:25.920 interpretation time and time again, and then watching them nervous 608 00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:29.950 in the wings before they go on and become supernatural 609 00:32:30.289 --> 00:32:35.369 on that stage. When you're around that enough, it gets... 610 00:32:36.339 --> 00:32:38.579 And then when you're with them after the fact, and 611 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.299 they're talking about when they were on stage with Gielgud 612 00:32:42.460 --> 00:32:46.359 or Olivier, because there is something, and this is more 613 00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:51.269 in the British tradition, it is lauded, it is something 614 00:32:51.329 --> 00:32:56.170 that is celebrated, and it is a tradition that is 615 00:32:56.250 --> 00:33:01.950 very much outside of financial remuneration. The gift is the 616 00:33:01.990 --> 00:33:05.230 doing of it. And I think that in and of itself, 617 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.809 creates this aura of camaraderie and being part of a 618 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.950 tradition that has been ongoing. And so there is something, 619 00:33:14.990 --> 00:33:17.390 and I sound so pretentious saying this, but there is 620 00:33:17.430 --> 00:33:25.049 something celestial about, I remember being 21, 22, being in 621 00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:27.609 a rehearsal room with a guy who had been on 622 00:33:27.630 --> 00:33:33.150 stage with Olivier and just going, okay, just soak it 623 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:37.579 all in. And what I mean is it gets on you. 624 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.599 And what then happens is as you climb the ranks 625 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.660 of being a spare carrier, playing decretas like I did 626 00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:48.109 in Anthony and Cleopatra with my seven lines. And then 627 00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:51.509 within about three years, I was playing Henry VI in 628 00:33:51.569 --> 00:33:52.430 that same theater. 629 00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:56.650 So you go from Holt who goes there to giving 630 00:33:56.710 --> 00:33:58.670 these incredible soliloquies. 631 00:33:59.450 --> 00:34:02.009 Speeches that you will never conquer. 632 00:34:02.269 --> 00:34:02.430 Yeah. 633 00:34:02.990 --> 00:34:11.269 Every night is basically an exercise in humility because it 634 00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:14.170 will kick your butt every night. It's why that playwright, 635 00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:18.550 especially Shakespeare, has lasted over 400 years. He tapped into 636 00:34:18.610 --> 00:34:20.989 humanity in a way that I don't think any writer 637 00:34:21.030 --> 00:34:23.690 has done before and ever will. And so it's the 638 00:34:23.809 --> 00:34:27.030 Everest for actors. And so when you have that and 639 00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:29.429 then you combine it with an audience, and what I 640 00:34:29.489 --> 00:34:33.369 mean by celestial is that there is this vibration where 641 00:34:33.469 --> 00:34:36.210 they start telling you if, and you must have this 642 00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:38.730 as a comedian, they start telling you if you're telling 643 00:34:38.769 --> 00:34:42.349 the truth. And the moment there is fracture in that, 644 00:34:42.409 --> 00:34:45.750 you feel it instantaneously. And if you do that night 645 00:34:45.869 --> 00:34:49.570 after night after night after night, it becomes muscle memory. 646 00:34:49.670 -->

00:34:52.010 We've all been around each other since we crawled out 647 00:34:52.030 --> 00:34:57.400 of the sea. And we pick up on this you 648 00:34:57.420 --> 00:34:59.619 could call it electrical you could say there's a biochemical 649 00:34:59.659 --> 00:35:01.559 reason for it or it's just mystical and you don't 650 00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:03.760 want to think about it too much but we know 651 00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:06.760 when someone's tapped into the truth yes it's why i 652 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.050 think juries you know they can make mistakes but overall 653 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.070 they say let's get a bunch of let's get a 654 00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:14.829 bunch of your peers and have them listen and together 655 00:35:14.869 --> 00:35:17.489 they'll have an intellect a common intelligence. 656 00:35:17.550 --> 00:35:20.150 You've said it's truth yeah i think is the thing 657 00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:24.429 yeah and and it's why Anyone's favorite actors have probably 658 00:35:24.510 --> 00:35:27.989 at some point been on the stage. I truly believe 659 00:35:28.010 --> 00:35:32.449 that because you, you have had the opportunity to be 660 00:35:33.010 --> 00:35:36.079 around the truth enough that that is now, as I say, 661 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.500 muscle memory that becomes applicable to film work where everything 662 00:35:40.619 --> 00:35:43.300 is artifice. You know, it's a room like this with 663 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:47.280 contraptions like this, and it's, and you're supposed to be 664 00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:50.070 in love with someone you met that morning and And 665 00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:52.710 it is, it is an exercise in artifice, but if 666 00:35:52.750 --> 00:35:55.429 you know what it feels like to tell the truth 667 00:35:55.510 --> 00:35:59.400 under those circumstances you're describing, you sort of have more 668 00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:00.170 access to it. 669 00:36:00.539 --> 00:36:04.179 I just think, I mean, I'm thinking about, um, the 670 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:09.119 people that you've worked with, not just on the stage, uh, in, 671 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:13.289 in London, but in your film work, you've worked with 672 00:36:13.869 --> 00:36:19.050 giants in the industry and, um, You know, you said 673 00:36:19.070 --> 00:36:21.570 that you worked with Dame Judi Dench. I don't believe 674 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.119 I've met her. Someone now will come up with a 675 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.019 video of me interviewing her. I'm serious. This happens to 676 00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:29.639 me all the time where someone will pass and I'll say, 677 00:36:29.699 --> 00:36:31.400 a shame I never met them. And someone will show 678 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.760 me seven videos of me talking to them over a 679 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:35.800 15 year period. 680 00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:38.960 Wow, is this what I have to look forward to? 681 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.079 Oh, I see. Oh, the minute you go, I'll be like,

682 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:47.869 I would love to meet you. 1998. Damn it! All right. Well, 683 00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:51.789 she made no impression. I've always heard, I mean, she's spectacular, 684 00:36:51.809 --> 00:36:54.130 but I've also heard that she's just lovely. That she's 685 00:36:54.150 --> 00:36:57.730 just a lovely person. So lovely. And funny. Very, very funny. 686 00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:01.989 But what was so surprising about her is she said, 687 00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:05.449 I can't bear to watch myself. Yeah, she's one of 688 00:37:05.489 --> 00:37:08.239 those actors. You couldn't bear to watch her. But the 689 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.639 thing that was really surprising is she said, I learn 690 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.909 my lines and I try to forget them. so that 691 00:37:15.030 --> 00:37:19.650 I am completely fresh and present in the scene. And 692 00:37:19.690 --> 00:37:24.920 I thought, how do you trick yourself into... And I 693 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.090 was in a scene with her, and I saw this thing... 694 00:37:30.070 --> 00:37:33.590 that is happening between you and I right now, whereby 695 00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:35.860 you don't know what I'm going to say next. And 696 00:37:35.889 --> 00:37:39.260 it is affecting your brain chemistry in a way whereby 697 00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:41.099 it's precipitating. 698 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:45.239 It's a real hitting the ball back and forth. Correct. Correct. 699 00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:48.989 And she has maintained the discipline of being able to 700 00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:51.550 hold it close enough, but hold it lightly enough that 701 00:37:51.590 --> 00:37:54.670 she's constantly alive. And I just thought, whoa, that is 702 00:37:54.909 --> 00:37:57.949 so brave and why she's so brilliant. 703 00:37:58.590 --> 00:38:04.849 Now, you do hold a distinction of being slapped by Oprah. Yes. 704 00:38:04.909 --> 00:38:06.610 I think we should talk about that. 705 00:38:07.289 --> 00:38:09.309 My claim to fame, guys. 706 00:38:10.309 --> 00:38:12.230 I mean, as part of a scene, I've been slapped 707 00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:16.269 by Oprah just in life. Just for existing. No, I 708 00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:18.760 tried to cut. It was an eight items or less line. 709 00:38:19.929 --> 00:38:22.440 And I tried to cut in front of her. That'll 710 00:38:22.460 --> 00:38:25.010 do it. And this was up near Santa Barbara, and man, 711 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.230 she packs a wallop. But I had it coming, and 712 00:38:28.269 --> 00:38:32.150 mad respect. But what was that like? Well, you know what? 713 00:38:32.389 --> 00:38:34.670 This was during a film called The Butler. Yeah, yeah. 714 00:38:34.909 --> 00:38:37.909 And we were doing this scene, and it was a scene, 715 00:38:38.030 --> 00:38:40.219 and it was a tough scene, because Sidney Poitier is 716 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:45.320 literally my hero. And it was a scene where my 717 00:38:45.460 --> 00:38:47.260 character was being very. 718 00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:53.849 Shall we say, uncouth about Sidney Poitier. And as a result, 719 00:38:54.030 --> 00:38:58.150 she quite rightly decides to give me what for. Now, 720 00:38:58.210 --> 00:39:01.869 of course, in the film, she's supposed to slap her son. 721 00:39:02.630 --> 00:39:06.460 In the world of cameras, action, all of that, don't 722 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:12.179 actually slap me. Now, with each take, she got more 723 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:13.219 and more into it. 724 00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:18.880 And she has probably reserves of anger about things in 725 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:20.309 her life that she wants to get out. 726 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.010 I could feel her dragging up things that were helping 727 00:39:24.050 --> 00:39:27.530 her tell the truth. And what what was happening is, 728 00:39:27.590 --> 00:39:29.860 you know, so initially, you know, I couldn't feel any 729 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.380 wind as she, as she, as she went. And, and 730 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:37.360 it started like, I was like, each time she does this. 731 00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:40.099 So I, I could feel, I could feel she was 732 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:44.550 getting ever closer each and every time. And the very 733 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:49.429 last time she, she, she, got the end of my nose. 734 00:39:49.650 --> 00:39:50.170 Oh, okay. 735 00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:53.090 It wasn't a full slap, but it was the moment 736 00:39:53.110 --> 00:39:54.130 where I went, I think we got it. 737 00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:58.110 I think we got it, guys. I'm just going to mention, 738 00:39:58.150 --> 00:39:59.639 I don't know if this occurred to you, she has 739 00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:04.239 deep pockets. There's a lot of money there. So I've heard. Yeah, 740 00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:06.619 and you could say my nose, I've never, I don't 741 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.400 think I can act again. I use the tip of 742 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.320 my nose a lot. You know, and then she's living 743 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.730 at the Motel 6 and you're living in her house. 744 00:40:15.789 --> 00:40:18.550 This is where you go. You go straight for the losses. 745 00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:21.610 This is America. This is America and that's all we 746 00:40:21.650 --> 00:40:24.050 do is sue the shit out of each other. If 747 00:40:24.110 --> 00:40:27.780 only I'd met you sooner, damn it. All the billboards. 748 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.260 You could call Sweet James. 749 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.179 Sweet James. Yeah, that's the guy. That is. Oh, his 750 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:35.880 billboards are everywhere. Sweet James. 751 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:36.119 Yeah. 752 00:40:36.909 --> 00:40:41.000 Um, it was funny you mentioned that because we did something, 753 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.480 the lovely Sophie Turner was going to be on our 754 00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:47.519 show and I've always had a good time talking with 755 00:40:47.579 -->

00:40:50.780 her and she was coming on and I read the 756 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.780 notes and they said she might want to try something 757 00:40:52.860 --> 00:40:57.210 where she, it involves her lightly slapping you. And I 758 00:40:57.329 --> 00:41:01.469 told her just before the show, so this is really 759 00:41:01.550 --> 00:41:03.909 on me. I said, if those things are going to work, 760 00:41:03.949 --> 00:41:05.769 you really have to go for it. So I told her, 761 00:41:06.630 --> 00:41:08.409 you should, if it's gonna work, you have to really 762 00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:11.329 go for it. You can't kind of half do it. Right. So, 763 00:41:12.210 --> 00:41:15.289 and I'm not thinking. So we get to that part 764 00:41:15.309 --> 00:41:17.369 of the show and it's on tape, but I'm standing 765 00:41:17.510 --> 00:41:21.190 up and Sophie just lets me have it. She's a 766 00:41:21.309 --> 00:41:24.409 very strong woman. Yes. You took a shot of tequila first. 767 00:41:24.429 --> 00:41:26.469 I took a shot of tequila first and then she 768 00:41:26.710 --> 00:41:30.269 hit me and you can see I'm just, I went 769 00:41:30.329 --> 00:41:31.869 to a different place for a while. 770 00:41:31.949 --> 00:41:32.170 Yeah. 771 00:41:32.210 --> 00:41:34.719 For a while. I've traveled through time. I met many 772 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.900 famous people. And then I came back all in an instant. 773 00:41:39.940 --> 00:41:42.059 Give me some context here. Was it for a beer? 774 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.489 It was a game. I think she called it tequila slaps. Yeah. 775 00:41:45.530 --> 00:41:47.349 But I don't know how it's a game. Because it 776 00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.769 just involved me having some tequila and then her punching 777 00:41:49.789 --> 00:41:50.909 the shit out of me. Yeah, you just take a 778 00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:53.610 shot of tequila and the person just slaps you. And 779 00:41:53.630 --> 00:41:57.690 that's it. What a fun game. She left the bottle. 780 00:41:57.969 --> 00:42:00.400 Not only did I agree to it, I saw it 781 00:42:00.409 --> 00:42:02.380 in the notes and I said, oh, and if we 782 00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:04.489 do get to that, I like to keep it kind 783 00:42:04.530 --> 00:42:05.820 of loose out there. I said, if we do get 784 00:42:05.860 --> 00:42:07.079 to that and it starts to happen. 785 00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:07.409 Right. 786 00:42:07.820 --> 00:42:09.460 If you do that, it's not going to work. You 787 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.760 have to let me have it. And God bless her. Yeah, 788 00:42:11.780 --> 00:42:14.559 she did. She was like, all right. She went for it. 789 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.920 He told me. 790 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.159 Is this because you wanted to sue her? Is this 791 00:42:18.179 --> 00:42:19.420 why you. 792 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.949 What's that? That was the plan. Unfortunately, she had to. 793 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.679 I wondered why I read she's destitute now. No, it 794 00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:28.800 is something to be. 795 00:42:36.650 --> 00:42:39.090 In that moment where you're hit, which doesn't happen, were 796 00:42:39.110 --> 00:42:41.489 you ever punched at all as a kid or were 797 00:42:41.510 --> 00:42:43.409 you ever in a fight? Yeah. Yeah. 798 00:42:43.449 --> 00:42:46.119 I went to boarding school in Nigeria and I remember 799 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.019 getting into a few fights. It is nothing, until you 800 00:42:51.380 --> 00:42:56.800 experience being punched in the face, nothing can prepare, the ringing, 801 00:42:56.820 --> 00:43:02.929 the flash of white you see, you know, You're saying, yep, yep, 802 00:43:02.949 --> 00:43:03.670 like you've been punched. 803 00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:07.050 Oh, I was, yeah. I was, yeah, punched really hard 804 00:43:07.070 --> 00:43:09.969 in the face. Oh, really? It was a mugging. 805 00:43:10.010 --> 00:43:17.090 By Sophie Turner? It's always Sophie Turner. What happened? 806 00:43:17.349 --> 00:43:20.159 It was, again, it was Sophie Turner. And she was 807 00:43:20.219 --> 00:43:23.280 robbing me. It was about... Two years after she was 808 00:43:23.380 --> 00:43:27.480 on the show. And I had sued her into destitution. 809 00:43:27.579 --> 00:43:29.599 And she said, I want my money back! She's still 810 00:43:29.619 --> 00:43:30.579 carrying tequila. 811 00:43:31.059 --> 00:43:32.050 You kind of deserved it. 812 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.760 No, I think I was 18 and I was walking 813 00:43:35.780 --> 00:43:38.840 around the north end of Boston and some kids wanted money. 814 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:41.739 And I said, no. And they said, why not? And 815 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.280 I said, I don't feel like it. And just as 816 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.099 I said, like it, as I hit the T... I 817 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:48.219 saw all the white. 818 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:48.320 Yeah. 819 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.980 Yeah. Yeah. Then they had to rebuild my nose. 820 00:43:53.579 --> 00:43:56.820 Did you get the blood when you suddenly your own 821 00:43:56.909 --> 00:43:58.789 blood goes down your throat? 822 00:43:59.070 --> 00:44:00.670 Oh, I had the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. 823 00:44:00.710 --> 00:44:00.949 Yeah. 824 00:44:00.969 --> 00:44:03.429 I think I was like a sprinkler. I think you 825 00:44:03.449 --> 00:44:06.429 had a sprinkler system. No, it's getting dark now. I 826 00:44:06.449 --> 00:44:09.800 was fine. I bear no emotional wounds. So the guy 827 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.489 who's clearly packed with emotional wounds. But what I do 828 00:44:13.530 --> 00:44:16.250 remember is they had to reshape my nose and I 829 00:44:16.329 --> 00:44:18.670 had the whole black eyes and I was bandaged up 830 00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:22.250 for a while. 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of the 871 00:46:32.469 --> 00:46:33.250 Government of Ireland. 872 00:46:40.099 --> 00:46:43.929 Well, I want to congratulate you because I watched your film, Newborn, 873 00:46:44.969 --> 00:46:47.690 and I very much enjoyed it. And it was not 874 00:46:48.130 --> 00:46:50.840 what I expected, which is rare. Usually when I watch 875 00:46:50.889 --> 00:46:53.260 a movie, I think, oh, I can see where this 876 00:46:53.340 --> 00:47:00.170 is going. And I was... Completely surprised by how this unfolded. 877 00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:01.780 It's a very powerful movie. 878 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:02.619 Thank you. 879 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.599 And you... Am I right? This movie was made a while... 880 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.230 Was it made a while ago? When was the movie made? Yeah. 881 00:47:08.369 --> 00:47:10.369 It was made a little while ago, and it was 882 00:47:10.730 --> 00:47:15.420 one of those... the alchemy of making movies, man, it's, it's, uh, 883 00:47:15.460 --> 00:47:18.010 we made it with a company that went into insolvency. 884 00:47:18.530 --> 00:47:20.369 And so we had to get the film back and, 885 00:47:20.449 --> 00:47:23.050 you know, all that. And then there was a writer's 886 00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:27.650 strike and all this stuff, um, before we're, we're, we're now, uh, 887 00:47:27.750 --> 00:47:31.559 getting the movie out. But weirdly I've had so many 888 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.599 instances like this, like Selma took seven years to get. 889 00:47:34.699 --> 00:47:35.980 Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. 890 00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:36.139 Yeah. 891 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:36.320 Yeah. 892 00:47:36.340 --> 00:47:39.329 From, from when I first auditioned for it to, And 893 00:47:39.369 --> 00:47:40.369 it's amazing too. 894 00:47:40.449 --> 00:47:43.130 When you see the finished product, you think, well, this 895 00:47:43.170 --> 00:47:47.070 was obvious. And it wasn't. I mean, when you walk 896 00:47:47.110 --> 00:47:49.760 out of the theater after seeing Selma, if someone said 897 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.659 to you, well, that took seven years from beginning to 898 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.900 you think, well, that, no, this just looks like a 899 00:47:54.940 --> 00:47:55.519 slam dunk. 900 00:47:55.699 --> 00:47:55.880 Right. 901 00:47:56.099 --> 00:47:56.539 Exactly. 902 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.820 And it was the opposite. I mean, I watched five 903 00:47:59.860 --> 00:48:03.269 directors come and go before it ended up being Ava DuVernay. 904 00:48:03.389 --> 00:48:06.630 I watched that film go from Lyndon Johnson being the 905 00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:11.309 central character to it finally being Dr. King as it 906 00:48:11.449 --> 00:48:14.400 always should have been. And to your point, you know, 907 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.679 I truly believe these things because I'm a big believer 908 00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.739 in the power of storytelling. And I do think often 909 00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:25.909 the ones that really go on to be impactful, they 910 00:48:25.989 --> 00:48:29.630 sometimes take time to come to fruition in the right way. 911 00:48:29.670 --> 00:48:32.789 And what happened with Newborn is that through the course 912 00:48:32.849 --> 00:48:36.360 of this protracted journey to the now that we're in, 913 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.800 we got to go back and do reshoots and really 914 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.480 analyze what it is we wanted to do with the film. 915 00:48:42.500 --> 00:48:45.179 Because the film is about my character, Chris Newborn, who 916 00:48:45.300 --> 00:48:49.130 endures seven years of solitary confinement and is dealing with 917 00:48:49.289 --> 00:48:53.429 the detrimental effects of that mentally and is trying to 918 00:48:53.510 --> 00:48:56.530 reconnect with his family after coming out with his wife 919 00:48:56.889 --> 00:49:00.710 and his son. And that's very delicate, you know, because 920 00:49:01.230 --> 00:49:04.519 I talked to... A few people who had dealt with 921 00:49:04.539 --> 00:49:07.820 that reality is specifically a guy called Richard Rosario, who 922 00:49:07.860 --> 00:49:11.929 had been wrongfully incarcerated for 20 years, seven of which 923 00:49:11.989 --> 00:49:15.829 were in solitary confinement. And the effects of it, I mean, 924 00:49:15.989 --> 00:49:19.969 after 13 days, studies have shown you're never the same again. 925 00:49:20.619 --> 00:49:23.559 because it's 23 hours a day in a nine by 926 00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:27.059 six cell with fluorescent lights on all the time. And 927 00:49:27.340 --> 00:49:31.960 what that does to the mind, the psyche, the soul is, 928 00:49:32.260 --> 00:49:33.500 is it's torture. 929 00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:36.360 What is the possible reason that lights would have to 930 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.090 be on all the time other than to torture you. 931 00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:43.869 There's no rehabilitative effect to having lights on all the time. 932 00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:47.809 It is the opposite of rehabilitation. And that's the point. 933 00:49:48.289 --> 00:49:54.260 It is purely punitive. And so it's the height of punishment. 934 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.000 Anything and everything to make your life uncomfortable is what 935 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:02.280 solitary confinement is. And you say it perfectly there. It 936 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.980 is the opposite of rehabilitation, which supposedly is what we're 937 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.320 supposed to be doing with prisons. But what people don't 938 00:50:08.380 --> 00:50:12.659 know is that 80,000 people, men, women, and children are 939 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:17.900 in solitary confinement today in America. And so in order 940 00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:20.739 to tell this story in a way that wasn't just 941 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:26.599 dark and challenging and traumatic, we chose to see what 942 00:50:26.699 --> 00:50:30.019 life was like for this man post the incarceration and 943 00:50:30.139

--> 00:50:33.840 how he goes on a journey to trying to reconnect 944 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.960 with his family while dealing with this trauma. So it's 945 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.980 a psychological thriller, but that's wrapped around a love story. 946 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.039 This guy trying to get back to his wife, trying 947 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.059 to get back to his son. I thought of this analogy, 948 00:50:46.739 --> 00:50:47.300 which is. 949 00:50:48.940 --> 00:50:52.550 It was proven long ago that if, I think they 950 00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:54.469 found this out at the end of World War II 951 00:50:54.510 --> 00:50:57.690 when soldiers were liberating some of the concentration camps, that 952 00:50:58.070 --> 00:51:00.150 the first instinct is to give all these people who 953 00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:04.000 are malnourished tons of food, which can kill them. 954 00:51:04.139 --> 00:51:04.320 Yes. 955 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:09.079 Because their bodies have been living with almost no food 956 00:51:09.179 --> 00:51:11.500 for years at a time. And you need to start 957 00:51:11.739 --> 00:51:15.710 very slowly and then slowly raise the calorie count in 958 00:51:15.769 --> 00:51:19.530 order for people... This movie, to me, did a very 959 00:51:19.570 --> 00:51:21.750 good job of showing me that if someone's been in 960 00:51:21.809 --> 00:51:24.610 solitary confinement for seven years and then they're out and 961 00:51:24.650 --> 00:51:27.579 they're free and they're allowed to be out in the 962 00:51:27.659 --> 00:51:33.820 world and... walking down the street and being outside, it's overload. 963 00:51:34.340 --> 00:51:40.050 It's absolute sensory overload and traumatic. And so things that 964 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.550 we think of as, oh, this would be lovely. I'd 965 00:51:43.630 --> 00:51:46.030 love to be with my wife and my son at 966 00:51:46.050 --> 00:51:50.789 a cabin in the woods, wandering around this beautiful countryside. 967 00:51:50.849 --> 00:51:54.940 What a lovely time. That's horrifying. And that came across 968 00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.889 really thoroughly in the movie. And I thought this is, 969 00:51:58.289 --> 00:52:00.150 This is a story I haven't seen before. Right. Where 970 00:52:00.190 --> 00:52:02.909 someone's in an environment that I would love. 971 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:03.389 Right. 972 00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.739 And to them, it's a nightmare. 973 00:52:06.139 --> 00:52:10.360 Well, so perfectly put there, Conan, because it's also about 974 00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:15.260 the things we take for granted and how desperately as 975 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.239 human beings we need connection. Like human beings are designed 976 00:52:19.699 --> 00:52:24.030 for connection. And the ultimate way you dehumanize someone is 977 00:52:24.070 --> 00:52:26.869 to extricate them from human connection. I mean, we all 978 00:52:27.289 --> 00:52:29.710 to a certain extent, felt that during the pandemic. And 979 00:52:29.750 --> 00:52:32.250 that was one of the most debilitating things is this 980 00:52:32.289 --> 00:52:35.050 feeling of a lack of connection to other people. But, 981 00:52:35.550 --> 00:52:39.630 you know, that's exactly it. Him trying to reconnect, having 982 00:52:39.670 --> 00:52:43.530 been denied connection for so long with the very people 983 00:52:43.869 --> 00:52:48.110 that essentially their existence is what kept him going. So 984 00:52:48.170 --> 00:52:50.780 he wants nothing more than to reconnect with his wife. 985 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:54.090 His son has become nonverbal. Because of some of the 986 00:52:54.170 --> 00:52:57.750 trauma he sees in his mother due to what has 987 00:52:57.789 --> 00:53:00.989 happened to his father. So, you know, all of that 988 00:53:01.170 --> 00:53:05.530 is happening and you can't tell what's in his mind and, 989 00:53:05.670 --> 00:53:07.780 you know, what's perceived and what is real. And that's 990 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.519 where the psychological thriller aspect comes in. 991 00:53:10.539 --> 00:53:10.619 Yeah. 992 00:53:11.619 --> 00:53:14.179 You know, what we also hoped to do is, is 993 00:53:14.260 --> 00:53:17.920 to tap into how we can all relate to feelings 994 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:20.960 of isolation, whether it's loneliness, whether it's, you know, in 995 00:53:20.980 --> 00:53:23.800 your own head, whether it's, you know, childhood trauma, whatever 996 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.510 that may be. And the, what is the path to 997 00:53:27.550 --> 00:53:31.190 healing for that? I believe it's love. And, um, you know, 998 00:53:31.250 --> 00:53:35.110 Richard Rosario, the extraordinary thing, his wife stuck by him 999 00:53:35.150 --> 00:53:39.190 for the 20 years he was incarcerated. And her name 1000 00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:42.650 is Minerva. And, uh, And it's extraordinary to see him now, 1001 00:53:42.650 --> 00:53:46.650 10 years after he's been released, still dealing with a 1002 00:53:46.750 --> 00:53:49.670 lot of what he dealt with. But it is extraordinary 1003 00:53:49.730 --> 00:53:53.110 to see how love in relation to that thing you 1004 00:53:53.170 --> 00:53:56.050 talk about of how you slowly bring someone back as 1005 00:53:56.130 --> 00:53:58.840 opposed to just giving them a full meal has sort 1006 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.119 of got this guy to a place where, you know, 1007 00:54:01.179 --> 00:54:02.880 he can now stand up in front of people and 1008 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:04.119 talk about his experience. 1009 00:54:04.539 --> 00:54:08.059 You know, I was watching the film and your performance 1010 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.829 is extraordinary as your performances always are. Then I was 1011 00:54:11.869 --> 00:54:15.050 thinking about your, quote, accident getting into acting. You go 1012 00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:18.590 to the acting class because you have a crush on 1013 00:54:18.610 --> 00:54:21.840 this girl and you just want to tag

along. And 1014 00:54:21.860 --> 00:54:25.480 I look at... I think, wait, something isn't right here 1015 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.599 because someone who can act at that level must know 1016 00:54:29.619 --> 00:54:31.659 when they're a kid they have this inside of them. 1017 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.179 That could not have been a complete surprise to you. 1018 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.420 It was. Really? It was. But. 1019 00:54:39.019 --> 00:54:45.449 And this is where... Gosh, especially as an artist, if 1020 00:54:45.809 --> 00:54:48.969 there is someone who sees in you what you haven't 1021 00:54:49.070 --> 00:54:53.650 seen in yourself yet, that is just the greatest blessing. 1022 00:54:53.889 --> 00:54:56.650 And often Oprah talks about this. I've heard a lot 1023 00:54:56.690 --> 00:55:01.369 of artists, whether they be actors or musicians, that music 1024 00:55:01.429 --> 00:55:06.650 teacher or that drama teacher or that literature professor or 1025 00:55:06.710 --> 00:55:11.800 teacher that goes, hold on, you. Yeah, yeah. There's something 1026 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:13.739 going on here. And I had that in a teacher 1027 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:18.179 called Jill Foster, who, you know, I continued to do drama, 1028 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.130 but it was baked into me by my parents that 1029 00:55:22.269 --> 00:55:24.789 that's not a proper job. That's just not what this 1030 00:55:24.869 --> 00:55:27.510 is going to be. And I idolized my father. And 1031 00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:30.789 so therefore, it wasn't going to be that. But this teacher, 1032 00:55:31.309 --> 00:55:33.840 who I remember her accosting me outside of a tube 1033 00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.940 station when I was all set to go and do 1034 00:55:36.980 --> 00:55:39.679 a law degree, and saying, David, I wouldn't say this 1035 00:55:40.179 --> 00:55:42.599 to any of my other students. I think you could 1036 00:55:42.619 --> 00:55:49.679 do acting professionally. And I didn't even know what that entailed. 1037 00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:51.599 And she went, well, have you considered drama school? I said, 1038 00:55:51.619 --> 00:55:53.960 I don't know what that is. And she introduced me 1039 00:55:54.019 --> 00:55:55.900 to what drama schools are. And she helped me with 1040 00:55:55.940 --> 00:55:59.300 my auditions. And that's how I ended up, well, getting 1041 00:55:59.340 --> 00:56:03.250 a scholarship to go to Lambda. And, you know, the 1042 00:56:03.409 --> 00:56:07.389 full circle of this, because within the last month, I 1043 00:56:07.469 --> 00:56:11.400 went to see my son at the drama school I 1044 00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:17.199 went to playing in an adaptation of the play that 1045 00:56:17.300 --> 00:56:22.889 I met my wife doing. And it made me think 1046 00:56:23.070 --> 00:56:27.210 all the way back to Jill Foster that what she 1047 00:56:27.349 --> 00:56:30.550 gave to me by way of advocacy is now having 1048 00:56:30.610 --> 00:56:35.000 a generational impact, not just for actors I will never meet, 1049 00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:40.519 my own son. And, you know, when I went to Lambda, 1050 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.050 I was the only black student of 300 students at 1051 00:56:45.110 --> 00:56:48.289 that drama school. I went to see my son in 1052 00:56:48.349 --> 00:56:51.969 his play and I graduated 27 years ago and I 1053 00:56:52.010 --> 00:56:54.150 now go and talk at Lambda every now and again. 1054 00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:58.030 And a decent portion of the school is people of 1055 00:56:58.110 --> 00:57:00.650 color from all walks of life, from all over the world. 1056 00:57:00.670 --> 00:57:03.579 There's been some really great work done. And when I 1057 00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.820 say to those students, when I say to my own son, 1058 00:57:06.829 --> 00:57:09.530 I cannot believe what I'm seeing in relation to what 1059 00:57:09.570 --> 00:57:13.309 my experience was. They have no real connection to what 1060 00:57:13.329 --> 00:57:15.630 I'm saying. And I, and I, and I find myself 1061 00:57:15.670 --> 00:57:18.610 thinking that's exactly what you want. You want them to 1062 00:57:18.949 --> 00:57:22.710 not be able to understand what it would feel like 1063 00:57:22.769 --> 00:57:26.110 to be the only, I want you to take this 1064 00:57:26.469 --> 00:57:32.780 level of, of diversity for granted. Um, and, and that, 1065 00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:35.739 is the driver for me with storytelling, you know, in 1066 00:57:35.780 --> 00:57:39.070 terms of the characters I play. I'm always, to a 1067 00:57:39.130 --> 00:57:45.289 certain degree, taking roles as a kind of gift to 1068 00:57:45.329 --> 00:57:48.389 my 12-year-old self in terms of the things that I 1069 00:57:48.429 --> 00:57:52.420 didn't see on screen. Sidney Poitier was my hero because 1070 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:56.940 he was like looking at a Martian in relation to 1071 00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.280 what I saw on British television, in relation to what 1072 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.530 was possible growing up on a council estate in Islington. 1073 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:07.429 And to be in a world now where that is 1074 00:58:07.469 --> 00:58:10.369 not the experience of my kids, where they're going, oh, 1075 00:58:10.670 --> 00:58:14.230 I have no one to aspire to in terms of 1076 00:58:14.269 --> 00:58:18.280 someone who looks like me. That is a big, big 1077 00:58:18.340 --> 00:58:19.860 driver for why I do what I do. 1078 00:58:20.099 --> 00:58:22.820 Yeah, it's really incredible. There's an amazing book. I don't 1079 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.519 know if you've come across it ever, but it's called 1080 00:58:25.579 --> 00:58:29.389 Pictures at a Revolution. And it's about it's a snapshot 1081 00:58:29.489 --> 00:58:32.349 of the movie industry and I think 1967 when it's 1082 00:58:32.750 --> 00:58:34.639 all changing, but there's a big part of it that's 1083 00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:39.579 about Sidney Poitier and how he came

along and what 1084 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:41.920 a pivotal figure he was. And I think in 67, 1085 00:58:41.900 --> 00:58:44.139 he's in two big movies and he's in heat of 1086 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.460 the heat of the night where he slaps a white man, 1087 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.320 which is still, still, I get chills every time I 1088 00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:56.260 see that scene, he slapped and he slaps the man 1089 00:58:56.429 --> 00:58:57.289 instantly back. 1090 00:58:57.510 --> 00:58:57.650 Yeah. 1091 00:58:57.940 --> 00:59:01.820 And it took people's breath away in the theater. And 1092 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.179 it still has that power. 1093 00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:04.429 Absolutely. 1094 00:59:04.449 --> 00:59:06.769 Like you can see in some frames of a film, 1095 00:59:07.590 --> 00:59:08.489 the world changed. 1096 00:59:08.570 --> 00:59:09.050 Absolutely. 1097 00:59:10.059 --> 00:59:12.019 In Guess Who's Coming to Dinner that year. So those 1098 00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:14.070 are the two films he does in that one year 1099 00:59:14.329 --> 00:59:18.650 and but then you think about okay he fought those 1100 00:59:18.730 --> 00:59:23.250 battles and then Denzel Washington had his battles to fight 1101 00:59:23.269 --> 00:59:26.869 that were, you know, different. And it just keeps getting 1102 00:59:27.150 --> 00:59:30.210 passed on and on and on. And you want your 1103 00:59:30.289 --> 00:59:32.789 son to grow up thinking, what's the problem? Yes. 1104 00:59:33.530 --> 00:59:34.769 What's the big deal? Absolutely. 1105 00:59:34.789 --> 00:59:35.429 That's the gift. 1106 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.000 Absolutely. It's the gift. And what's great about that story 1107 00:59:39.019 --> 00:59:43.579 you tell, anyone who knows Sidney Poitier's body of work 1108 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.889 always thinks he won the Oscar for in the heat 1109 00:59:47.909 --> 00:59:52.110 of the night because of the impact of that slap 1110 00:59:52.500 --> 00:59:56.639 and that role and how groundbreaking it was. And he 1111 00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.699 wasn't even nominated for that. Neither was he nominated for 1112 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:03.860 Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. He won for Lilies of 1113 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:09.820 the Field earlier and for a role where he was 1114 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:16.230 being nice to white nuns. That was what was deemed 1115 01:00:16.309 --> 01:00:21.769 permissible for him back then. It was deeply controversial to, 1116 01:00:22.010 --> 01:00:25.090 in one year, you're going to slap a white man 1117 01:00:25.289 --> 01:00:27.909 and then fall in love with a white woman on 1118 01:00:28.010 --> 01:00:30.789 our screens with us having given you an Oscar? 1119 01:00:31.230 --> 01:00:31.630 Oh, no. 1120 01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:36.250 Oh, no. And, you know, this is the thing about, 1121 01:00:36.429 --> 01:00:38.989 I've heard it said, it's not about any given role. 1122 01:00:39.010 --> 01:00:42.010 It's about a

body of work. And that body of 1123 01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.860 work is the thing that someone like me now takes 1124 01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:47.599 for granted. I look at Sidney Poitier and I go, wow. 1125 01:00:48.099 --> 01:00:50.480 But when you read about him, I met him and 1126 01:00:50.500 --> 01:00:54.780 it was just, oh my gosh, I can barely believe 1127 01:00:54.820 --> 01:00:58.590 it actually happened. And I remember Oprah introducing me to 1128 01:00:58.650 --> 01:01:00.289 him and she said, oh yeah, David's going to play 1129 01:01:00.909 --> 01:01:03.309 and Martin Luther King and his eyes lit up and 1130 01:01:03.329 --> 01:01:05.969 I just thought, okay, just be present. Just be present. 1131 01:01:06.010 --> 01:01:06.670 Just soak it up. 1132 01:01:06.750 --> 01:01:07.309 Soak it up. 1133 01:01:07.469 --> 01:01:09.769 This is really happening. Don't say anything stupid. 1134 01:01:09.829 --> 01:01:11.650 Just, you know, and you were saying that out loud. 1135 01:01:11.730 --> 01:01:13.329 I was, I was, I was just getting out of 1136 01:01:13.349 --> 01:01:16.750 my presence, but you know, as you say, you know, that's. 1137 01:01:17.030 --> 01:01:18.769 That's, that's what you want, you know, is to look, 1138 01:01:30.869 --> 01:01:34.289 I think at its height, storytelling, and this is what 1139 01:01:34.329 --> 01:01:37.050 I tried to do with Newborn. That was an incredibly 1140 01:01:37.150 --> 01:01:41.639 uncomfortable role to play. My dad passed away on the 1141 01:01:41.780 --> 01:01:46.019 first day of filming. He was dealing with colon cancer. And, 1142 01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:50.119 you know, I had considered not taking the role. I 1143 01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:54.110 said to him, look, daddy, I just can't leave you. 1144 01:01:54.139 --> 01:01:57.730 We were shooting in Canada. And he was like, no, 1145 01:01:57.750 --> 01:02:01.610 you must go. you must go. This is what you're here. 1146 01:02:01.630 --> 01:02:03.880 This is what you're on this earth to do. You 1147 01:02:04.050 --> 01:02:07.860 must go. And this is from my dad who originally 1148 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:12.079 was so against it, against what I, I, I wanted 1149 01:02:12.219 --> 01:02:16.440 to do as a vocation, as a profession to, that 1150 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.519 was his, his last gesture. 1151 01:02:18.739 --> 01:02:23.670 What a, I mean, what a gift that your. 1152 01:02:23.469 --> 01:02:25.630 Dad got to see it all happen. 1153 01:02:26.550 --> 01:02:29.780 And as much, you know, As much as we'd still 1154 01:02:29.820 --> 01:02:33.820 like these people to be here, I always think about 1155 01:02:33.860 --> 01:02:36.920 the fact that, well, my parents got to see plenty. 1156 01:02:36.940 --> 01:02:39.219 They got to see plenty and they got to know 1157 01:02:39.300 --> 01:02:41.030 that it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for them. 1158 01:02:41.150 --> 01:02:45.010 So that's a gift that just keeps on giving. 1159 01:02:45.150 --> 01:02:49.690 It's huge. It's the only reason I went and I 1160 01:02:49.769 --> 01:02:54.349 did it. But I watch Newborn now and I can see... 1161 01:02:54.750 --> 01:02:58.230 I can see... I'm now removed from it because I've 1162 01:02:58.269 --> 01:03:00.570 gone through my, or I'm in the middle of my 1163 01:03:00.650 --> 01:03:02.949 process of healing from the loss of my dad, but 1164 01:03:03.050 --> 01:03:06.349 I can see the price. You know, I still carry 1165 01:03:06.389 --> 01:03:09.900 guilt about, you know, going off and doing this movie, 1166 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.719 even though I felt very passionate about doing it. My 1167 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.639 dad insisted I go and do it. But, you know, 1168 01:03:15.739 --> 01:03:18.860 at its height, I do think these stories cost money. 1169 01:03:19.510 --> 01:03:22.610 you know, to hold up a mirror to humanity, especially 1170 01:03:22.650 --> 01:03:25.250 when it's humanity is going through these very challenging things, 1171 01:03:25.309 --> 01:03:28.679 but it's, it's just, it's the greatest thing in, in 1172 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.460 the world to, to sort of in service of humanity, 1173 01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.280 kind of try and show us who we are. 1174 01:03:35.380 --> 01:03:38.159 I always go back to, it's a crazy world. Um, 1175 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:42.059 it's always been a crazy world and there are bad 1176 01:03:42.099 --> 01:03:44.659 things happening and bad things have always been happening. And 1177 01:03:44.739 --> 01:03:48.690 everyone just has to try and be, uh, do their 1178 01:03:48.789 --> 01:03:53.630 work well and be a good citizen, whatever that, I mean, 1179 01:03:53.650 --> 01:03:58.250 be a good person. And so, because sometimes that's all 1180 01:03:58.269 --> 01:04:01.139 you can do. Everything is so big. But I think 1181 01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:02.619 this is a tragic story because I think you would 1182 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:09.780 have made an amazing lawyer. We have a lot. David, 1183 01:04:09.820 --> 01:04:14.780 we have many good actors. But to find a really 1184 01:04:14.940 --> 01:04:19.239 good lawyer is hard. Yeah, he could have been the 1185 01:04:19.260 --> 01:04:23.099 next Sweet James. You could have been Sweet James. Sweet 1186 01:04:23.139 --> 01:04:26.050 James and his new protege, David. 1187 01:04:26.070 --> 01:04:29.889 Darn it, all those billboards I could have been on. 1188 01:04:29.929 --> 01:04:31.889 You could have been on so many billboards, but whatever. 1189 01:04:32.409 --> 01:04:37.619 Keep fucking around with acting. Well, the movie is Newborn. 1190 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:42.219 I loved it and I am just enthralled by you. 1191 01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:45.500 You're such an amazing person to talk to. And it's 1192 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.420 like a tonic when you come by. I always feel 1193 01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.940 good after you've been here because you're delightfully funny and 1194 01:04:51.980 -->

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