Full Transcript for Issue 543: Will We Ever See Mahershala Ali as Blade? Plus HotD, The Boys, & The Acolyte

know, I think both sides are right 59 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:44.000 in their own right. And I'm sure it's something like this because you have 60 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:48.560 a you know, an actor like that, and you have an IP and 61 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:55.879 Blade, you have a studio, Marvel Studios, which turns out movies. 62 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:04.800 It seems like there's a butting heads here. It's now almost five years since 63 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.959 maherschel Ali was announced as Blade. It was back in July of twenty nineteen. 64 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.120 Yeah, pre pandemic, pre pandemic, which, of course that's that's 65 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.079 part of all this, right, I mean, you can't not mention COVID 66 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:24.959 obviously was twenty twenty and into twenty twenty one. We obviously had the writer 67 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:29.800 strikes, and we obviously had the actors strike, but that can't all be 68 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.399 the reasons for like the delays and everything. Again, we're on our second 69 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:39.360 director, our first director, but Seemed Tarik signed back in July of twenty 70 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:45.680 twenty one and then left the project in twenty twenty two September twenty twenty two. 71 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.879 Aaron Pierre joined the cast on February twenty second, twenty twenty two, 72 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:59.240 and then I believe it was twenty twenty three, yeah, or no earlier 73 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.720 this year March twenty twenty four, where he said he is no longer involved 74 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.879 with Blade. The only other actors and actresses that we know about are Mia 75 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:13.040 Goth Delroy Lindo. Have no idea if either of them are still attached to 76 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.959 it. And I also have to mention that Maherschela is in talks to be 77 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:24.759 one of the stars of the next Jurassic Park movie. So the movie is 78 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:29.160 currently set for November seventh, twenty twenty five. I don't think it's making 79 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:33.600 that date. I'm imagining it gets delayed yet again. Yeah, I mean, 80 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.399 no director at the Helm, and you know, a new director coming 81 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.720 in, They're gonna have to probably talk about some things and get on the 82 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.759 same page. And yeah, it's it's not looking good man. No. 83 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:53.560 And I mean we did have that one report where it was like I forgot 84 00:07:53.560 --> 00:08:01.079 about this. There was a report where Blade was one of four leads in 85 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.120 the movie and he was gonna be the fourth lead of the movie, which 86 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:11.439 apparently that was obviously scrapped. There. It's just a weird set of circumstances. 87 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.680 So I think the

question obviously a lot of people are saying, you 88 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.720 know, oh, is Blade gonna get made or is it gonna ever happen? 89 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.600 Blah blah blah. I think it happens, whether that's five years from 90 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.319 now, ten years from now. I think a Blade movie with Marvel Studios 91 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.519 will happen. But what I want to ask you is, do you think 92 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:39.120 we see a Blade movie led by Mahrshela Ali happened in the MCU. I 93 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:45.279 just I mean at this point, like if he's not gone by this point, 94 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.399 I think he still stays around and still does it, because it's just 95 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.679 like if you're from if you're from the Marvel Studio side, you don't want 96 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.440 to lose a talent like that, right, I mean, I still think 97 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:03.320 it still gets it done. He's freaking waste something for you in eternals. 98 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.200 It's a postcriticy and I guess we could replace that. He's easily replace that. 99 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.799 But yeah, I mean I think he still does it. I say 100 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.279 if they are able to start shooting, because I don't know when the Jurassic 101 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.440 Park movie starts shooting, and I don't know that it's a done deal as 102 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.679 of yet, but I imagine that production is going to happen sooner rather than 103 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:26.879 later, which would further delay any attempt of starting a film with him. 104 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.159 They also still are trying to figure out the script. The script's been through 105 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.120 so many different processes, but the person that is attached to it, Eric 106 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:41.399 Pearson, has been described as a closer. He has written on The Fantastic 107 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.440 Four, Black Widow and thor Ragnarok and signed on to write the script, 108 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.360 making him at least the sixth writer to tackle the screenplay. So maybe with 109 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.279 Eric Pearson they can finally get a script done and figure things out. But 110 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.240 I don't think it's holding. It's November seventh, twenty twenty five date. 111 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:05.200 I would imagine it's something in twenty twenty six to twenty twenty seven. Yeah, 112 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.000 and there are reports out there now that's saying the Marvel Studios wants to 113 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.320 follow up Blade with a Midnight Sun's movie. It's just, I mean, 114 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.000 the jokes kind of right themselves, but it's just, you know, I've 115 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:26.399 seen memes Marshala Allie after in Midnight Suns after the Blade movie. It's like 116 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:33.720 that Titanically, it's been eighty four years. I mean, it's it's it's 117 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.120 a little funny, but no, I mean, you know, if you're 118 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.720 gonna fall, if you're gonna follow up anything after a Blade movie, it 119 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.399 makes sense to go with the midnight suns and movies. But yeah, I 120 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.919 think you're right, twenty twenty six, possibly twenty twenty seven is probably what 121 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:46.960 we're gonna see Blade, and that by that point, you know, I 122 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.799 think the mutants are gonna probably be in the MCU now if it is partially 123 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.559 like Marvel scaling back, you know, I think that's been a given that 124 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.960 they're going to scale back and not have ten projects a year or anything like 125 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.720 that like they have been, this being one of the prime examples. This 126 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:09.080 year, we're only getting one movie and two shows. Next year we're probably 127 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:13.559 only getting I think it's going to be three movies and maybe two shows. 128 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.519 So it is not like it was back in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty 129 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:24.039 two. But does that, I guess, does that give you a level 130 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.720 of at least they are taking the time and not rushing things, Like, 131 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:33.320 is there at least a silver lining here that we can look at? I 132 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.840 mean, I guess, I mean, if you want to look at it 133 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.240 that way, I'm trying to be optimistic as much as I can. I 134 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:48.000 guess that could be a possibility to I mean, I mean, it's I 135 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.360 and I guess maybe color me a little biased and not biased, but like 136 00:11:54.480 --> 00:12:00.960 just hopeful because I don't want mushall Allie to drop from the project. I 137 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.879 feel like if he drops, the project's just dead. I don't know if 138 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:11.200 Kevin Figey has a desire to make a Blade movie like like it may get 139 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.440 made in the future, but without mishall Alie. I don't think it. 140 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:22.759 It's it's not a priority. I think eventually they're gonna find somebody relatively soon. 141 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.360 I would imagine somebody. Maybe maybe they find somebody near Comic Con and 142 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:33.039 they introduce him on stage, this is our final director and have Marshall Alie 143 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.200 on stage with with the with the director, and yeah, I think, 144 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.519 I mean, I'm kinda I'm hopeful. Man, I can't imagine they do 145 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.519 another, like and our Blade director is this

guy. He has the cap 146 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.440 and everything, Like, I can't they can't do that. Yeah, they 147 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:56.279 just can't. Speaking of people talking about Blade, Wesley Snipes tweeted Blade Lordy, 148 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:03.600 Lordy Lordie. I emojis folks still looking for the secret sauce riding snowmobiles 149 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.000 in traffic kind of rough. Day Walkers make it look easy, don't they? 150 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:13.759 Smiling emoji and then hashtag day walker, click, hashtag Blade, hashtag 151 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.639 marble and then he had a gift of himself as Blade smiling and then not 152 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:24.399 smiling. So and I do like his most of his Blade movies, but 153 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.799 the ego of that guy, like, I don't think it would fit in 154 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:35.679 any studio, Like like Wesley Snipes thinks his his poop smells like roses. 155 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.279 It's it's it's so funny to me. It's uh yeah, it's definitely a 156 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.879 Wesley Snipes's world kind of thing. Oh yeah, well, we'll have to 157 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:54.200 wait and see. We don't have to wait and see The Boys spoiler alert, 158 00:13:54.840 --> 00:14:03.080 spoiler alert, spoiler alert the wound. Well, we kind of do, 159 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.440 because you saw the first episode. I've seen all three episodes now, 160 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.559 so let me start with you, Johng. What did you think of the 161 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:15.799 first episode of The Boys. I mean, there wasn't a scene. There's 162 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:24.279 usually a scene in every season opener that tries to up it from the season 163 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.200 before. I don't know if they're like, I can't remember. I'm trying 164 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.320 to think back to the first episode, and I watched this yesterday. Not 165 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.480 an episode, I don't. I mean, I don't. There's one in 166 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.720 the Hueye thing, not the Huey thing, the Butcher thing, the text, 167 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:50.879 which by the way, was hilarious because she apparently didn't know what was 168 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.759 going to be sent well until they were filming, and so that reaction by 169 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.960 her when she gets the buttthole picture is one hundred percent legitimate. That's her 170 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.600 pure reaction to it, which I think that was awesome because not that I 171 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.840 wanted to see a butthole. The thing that was awesome was her pure organic 172 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.720 reaction, and I think they should do more of that, just pure reactions 173 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.840 to it. But that that was the only really shocking thing to it. 174 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.679 But no, I enjoyed the episode there. It's I think the funniest thing 175 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:26.240 about it is that, you know, there are certain political leanings that found 176 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:35.200 that these episodes apparently very offensive. You don't. I'm just and I was 177 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.440 just like, what do you think season one through three was doing? Like 178 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:46.600 the actor that plays Homelander, the antagonist in the show, the actor himself 179 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:52.000 says, what the Red Red Flag is about Homelander is that he wears an 180 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.559 American cape, American flag as his cape. I mean that should get like, 181 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.440 I mean, that kind of gives it away. But yeah, I 182 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:07.360 mean, I don't know how they watched the first three seasons and and it 183 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:14.120 took them this long for them to realize they're making fun of you. They're 184 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:18.200 making both they're making fun of both sides, but they're you know, making 185 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.840 fun of the right side a lot more than the left side, which you 186 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:29.799 know, you watch the episode, it's essentially Antifa versus q On. It's 187 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:36.279 just like it's it's it's it's a it's funny, but it's uh. Yeah. 188 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:41.879 I I enjoyed the first episode. I do like the fact that Homelander 189 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.919 basically kind of sits back and say, you guys are all yes men, 190 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.840 deep go over there and blow a tran a train because okay, And it's 191 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.600 just like, yeah, you're all yes men. And then you have Stage 192 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.440 coming in and it's, uh, these characters that come in every season to 193 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.200 stirp the I like the fact that she's different than the other characters that they've 194 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:08.440 brought him from previous seasons. And having somebody that's the smartest person in the 195 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:14.000 world is going to be, you know, essentially give Homelanders something different, 196 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.759 right. So I enjoyed the first episode so far. You kind of had 197 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:27.960 Homelanders Son essentially showing some empathy towards Butcher because he could tell Butcher's dying, 198 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.720 and you know, and the subtle little things where there looks like there's like 199 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:40.319 a worm or something floating around in Butcher's head and that brutal baseball scene that 200 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:45.200 was baseball bat scene that was that was pretty shocking too, And then you 201 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.920 had the whole Frenchy thing. So I'm gonna try to catch the next two 202 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:55.279 I guess three by the time or next issue your tapes. It's just just 203

00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.079 so much content and shoot, by the time the next episode drops, I 204 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.559 think all the episodes of the Bear is gonna drop by next week. I 205 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.680 think he's dropping at the end of this week or something like that. Yeah, 206 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.160 I forget in the next two week. Okay, Okay, so we 207 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.559 have we have about ten days, so at the end of that end of 208 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.039 this month, all of those episodes are going to drop. So I'm gonna 209 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.319 be living in a cave because i think, like I said, I think 210 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.759 last last episode, I said, you know, the Bear is like might 211 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:27.200 be my favorite show in the last couple of years. One of my favorite 212 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.880 shows is top three for sure. But I'm gonna try to catch the next 213 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:37.240 three episodes of The Boys before our next episode, for sure. I want 214 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.359 to go back to you know what you said earlier about the shocking thing just 215 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:47.559 wait for episode two. I'm not I'm not gonna obviously, I'm not gonna 216 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.640 spoil it for you, but be prepared for a character named Splinter. That's 217 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:57.559 all I'm gonna say. Hmm, yeah, that all right. So the 218 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:03.400 other thing I want to bring up too is that I think with this season, 219 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.160 and it's you know, obviously, like you said, it's made people, 220 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.240 especially on the right, more angry than than past. Is just I 221 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:19.720 think this season is more overtly mirroring our society, Like it's it's I don't 222 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.759 know that it's been subtle in previous seasons, but it's it's like we're mentioning 223 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:29.359 January sixth, like where there's a countdown to that. Like there's like different 224 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:34.920 different things and scenarios that are happening this season that are particularly oh this is 225 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.920 yeah, we experienced this and homelanders Trump and this is that. You know, 226 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.519 it's like very very today, and it's it's shocking how people are just 227 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.200 now getting that, oh they're making fun of me. What this is weird? 228 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:56.200 I didn't think so so baffling, And I will say that the other 229 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.160 parts of the season, I think I have enjoyed it. It's just it 230 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.599 can be I don't know how to say it, like it can be tough 231 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:11.960 because it's so overtly like mirroring things that we constantly see that it's just like, 232 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:15.200

man, this is just cut and paste of what we experienced yesterday on 233 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:19.400 you know, whatever news outlet we're watching. So that's the only thing I 234 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.079 could say. It's like, man, it can be a tough watch at 235 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:29.240 different points, and I do wonder about I have to think back to like 236 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.559 season three or season two. There's a lot of storylines that they're setting up 237 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.279 in season four. It's a lot that they're throwing at us, and I 238 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.559 just wonder if that's a little too much. But I am interested in, 239 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:47.599 like Frenchy storyline. The chemical storyline for the season kind of gets ramped up 240 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:52.680 in season or excuse me an episode two of course, mm and the kind 241 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.359 of power struggle that he has with Butchers is gonna be an overarching thing for 242 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:02.200 the most part, but also the season and seems to be dealing with forgiveness 243 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:04.559 for a lot of different characters and how they come to terms with that. 244 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.079 I think you'll see that a lot more with a train and episode two, 245 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.319 once you get to it, you'll see that more like as they play out 246 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:17.519 the storyline with Hue and his Dad, and then of course Starlight with a 247 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.799 certain character. But of course we have this now ticking time bomb that is 248 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:26.559 January sixth, and where that leads us ide you know, it's an interesting 249 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.400 spot for the boys so far through the first three episodes. Yeah, I 250 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.839 mean, they basically made it to where, like you're saying that, there's 251 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.200 just a date that they have to essentially just you know, take her out, 252 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.039 right, they need they can't have her in the White House when at 253 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.720 this date they need to find a way to you know, basically kill her. 254 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:51.160 Which I didn't know she was like invincible. I didn't know that either. 255 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:56.279 I really didn't know that either. So she must have taken something to 256 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.799 make her that way, Like she has access to compound V and maybe they're 257 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.799 you know, making things you know, outside the you know, they haven't 258 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.559 shown us yet. And so they thought acid was gonna work. Didn't phase 259 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.559 her one bit, just burned a hole in her in her suit gun to 260 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:23.000 the temple. Nope. Nothing. Yeah, it's it's surprising how strong, 261 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.880

Like I didn't realize she was that strong. So how they're going to defeat 262 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:33.440 her in any way? Who knows, But I imagine Hughley is going to 263 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.279 play a big part of that, since there is seemingly a relationship there, 264 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.279 even though he did throw acid on her. You know, I don't know 265 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.839 how that's gonna go well, But there's some difficulties, but there is also 266 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:48.440 some I don't know, there's something more obviously with her and her not being 267 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.680 necessarily in line with Homelander as much as I thought they would be at the 268 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:59.119 beginning of the season. There's also did you watch gen V? Did you 269 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.200 finish that? Yeah? I did, so there is so I didn't watch 270 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.000 it, and I know there is a mention of that storyline briefly, and 271 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:12.319 there is an aspect to that that connects to Victoria Newman, her character. 272 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.400 I didn't really like, like I haven't watched gen V, so I don't 273 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.519 know, but it didn't like it didn't feel like it was must know, 274 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.119 like they kind of just present it and just keep it moving, so it's 275 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.759 like you don't necessarily have to watch it, and it didn't like necessarily take 276 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.200 me out of anything. But yeah, I just wanted to bring that aspect 277 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:38.079 up as someone who has yet to watch gen V. Yeah, I mean 278 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:45.480 they basically in GENV, they find out that they're conducting experiments on a bunch 279 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.119 of you know, a bunch of heroes, not heroes, but people that 280 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:59.640 have that have powers soups. There is one the main protagonist has the same 281 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:06.000 power as Victoria Newman. She just hasn't had a chance to basically master it. 282 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:11.000 So there's a lot of talk of her showing showing up in In the 283 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:18.039 Boys, maybe going toe to toe with her Marie Monroe she's played by Jason 284 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:23.119 Claire. But she basically can control blood, and she they show her. 285 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:30.359 It gives you a better explanation of how Victoria Newman's powers work. She can 286 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:37.599 essentially control field blood in other people. And yeah, she had the first 287 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:45.720 time that character used her power, she exploded her mom because she got very 288 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.519 upset and she didn't she didn't know she had the power, and then so 289 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:53.559 she got really upset and then essentially her mom exploded when they were having an 290 00:24:53.599 --> 00:25:00.279 argument. So it's, uh, it's it's a good backstory on how we 291 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:06.079 may see Victoria Newman use her power outside of just exploding heads, right, 292 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.759 she can you know, pull blood out of people. She could pull I 293 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.680 think she can pull blood out herself and use it at like as like basically 294 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:18.720 almost like a green lantern where you can you can basically concoct anything that you 295 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.160 want to imagine out of blood and use it as a weapon, so you 296 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.319 can you could turn it into like very sharp objects and pierce people. You 297 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.200 could turn it your Hell, if you got enough blood, you could turn 298 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.279 it into a giant ass hammer and smash somebody with it. So it's it 299 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:38.920 gives you a good creative way to show you to kind of preview what Victoria 300 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:45.839 Newman can possibly do. All right, then that's uh, that's terrifying. 301 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.759 Okay, Yeah, I mean it's not necessary to watch it, like you 302 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.200 said, but it was. I think it was at a time where we 303 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.319 didn't have much to watch and we're like, oh, let's just put this 304 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:56.240 on, and it's not it's not as good as The Boys, but it's 305 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.279 not. It's it's a good show. It's a good show if you have 306 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.559 if you have some free time, I would go ahead and watch it. 307 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.240 But yeah, like you said, I don't think it's necessary. No, 308 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:10.680 it definitely doesn't feel like it through the first three episodes of season four, 309 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:14.640 So it's I mean, it's it's good. It's definitely back. The Boys 310 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.960 is definitely back into form. I will I will say one other thing, 311 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.759 and obviously again no spoilers since you haven't seen it yet. There is a 312 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:29.319 moment with Butcher in episode three that I really appreciated because it does show a 313 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.480 more emotional side, like when it when it dives into some of the emotional 314 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.839 moments for some of these characters. I think it's it's arguably at its strongest. 315 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.640 Obviously, the sattire and stuff is great, and it's it's in this 316 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.319 season. It's especially on the nose. But like, I think that the 317 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:51.359 quieter moments, specifically with Butcher and another character in episode three, was really 318 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:55.680 strong. Yeah. I mean I at the end of episode one when he 319 00:26:56.599 -->

00:27:02.279 is when he's in the in the office and he's he has to you know, 320 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.960 he hugs Hueye and you know, it takes the USB from him, 321 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.480 the flash drive from him, and he's about to send it to you know, 322 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:12.960 Victoria Newman. I was just like, man, like, you know, 323 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.480 all every this day with this character, specifically, like every time he 324 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.799 makes us, you know, step forward, he takes two steps back, 325 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:23.319 and I was just I was at that moment, I was like, man, 326 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.400 I really hope he makes some kind of progress this season. And then 327 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.599 when he started, you know, texting her, I was like God, 328 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:37.319 I was like, man, they're doing it again. And then then of 329 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.799 course he gets the message. She gets the message, he's like, oh, 330 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.880 you know what, maybe he's taking a step forward, like another step 331 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:48.000 forward. So I'm holding out hope on uh on Butcher because it's it's that 332 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.920 trope of the main character getting in in his own way and in his his 333 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.000 or her own way, and we've seen that way too often with uh just 334 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:03.319 TV shows, and I'm glad that they're not doing that, or it looks 335 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.279 like they're not doing that. Yeah, there is another moment where there's Butcher 336 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.279 being very like in that moment, I was very much in your camp of 337 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:12.799 like, oh, please don't do this, this is so stupid for you. 338 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:18.720 Butcher, don't like destroy your relationship with Hwei and everything and destroy what 339 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:25.000 y'all are trying to do. And of course he doesn't. There's another moment 340 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.319 coming up for Butcher where it's like, Oh, don't be an idiot, 341 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.960 Please don't be so stupid, Butcher, don't be shortsighted, because I think 342 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:38.480 that's a lot of times while the boys are able to handle soups in everything 343 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.359 this season is really putting them to the test because I think this season specifically, 344 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:49.519 they're behind the ball more than they're ahead of things, and it has 345 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:55.119 to be concerned for their safety because you know, one Homeland or Blast and 346 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.599 most of them are done. Yeah, all but one, all but one? 347 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.480 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, all right, Well, let's let's move 348 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:07.400 on to another show that you've now seen through three episodes. I've seen the 349 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.400 fourth episode, The Acolyte, which the fourth episode actually premiered tonight, the 350 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:18.119 night we're recording this. We're recording this on June eighteenth. I had a 351 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.720 chance to watch it before we started recording. So you've seen the third episode. 352 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:27.039 What did you What have you thought of the further mystery of we go 353 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.839 back to brend doc but we still don't get quite all the answers, but 354 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:37.039 we get a little bit more understanding of why Osha and May are in the 355 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.680 positions where they are. I liked it, iked episode three in terms of 356 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.559 the story just you know, because we were going to get that story, 357 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.440 I mean were we knew, I mean, a good show would give us 358 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.839 that story, and they gave us that story in a story that you know, 359 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.359 the as a viewer, you're gonna have to know going into the rest 360 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:02.599 of the series. So I liked it from that perspective. You know, 361 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.319 you kind of make you kind of see how both characters kind of think and 362 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:11.039 how they were kind of raised both, you know, the mother, they 363 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:18.640 were raised to kind of have their own own thoughts and own way of basically 364 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:26.720 expressing themselves. So you know, Oi she is more of the the rebel, 365 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.960 the free spirit kind of thing, and you know, and May is 366 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.000 like buy the book and having to you know, follow orders and that kind 367 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:38.039 of thing, which I guess now ironically it's you know, put her on 368 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.640 the other side of the coin where she's not a Jedi or she's not a 369 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:48.680 good I guess technically a good guy in you know May's I mean, Oi 370 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.960 she's you know, kind kind of kind of working with the Jedi. She 371 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.559 is working with the Jedi. So yeah, I liked it from that perspective. 372 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.079 I don't know if it was the way I watched the first two episodes 373 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.039 before this one, but it almost felt like the first episodes, the way 374 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.680 they set it up was that May was I mean, I guess May was 375 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:18.079 blaming them for the Jedi, for the their mother's death or mother's death. 376 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.720 But I guess when you watch episode three, it's more like she's blaming them 377 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:30.319 for tearing their family apart. Is how I took that after watching episode three, 378 00:31:30.359 -->

00:31:36.279 because they essentially came in the four of them and drove a wedge between 379 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:40.519 her and her sister, which may is very very much. You know, 380 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.119 it seems like she wants to not have her sister leave her side and wants 381 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.519 to be attached at the hip. She's that you know, she's that sibling. 382 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:56.039 So it now it kind of makes sense. It's just a different perspective 383 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.359 in that in that in that aspect, But you know, I think overall 384 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:08.119 I enjoyed the episode. Does it take my score from eighty seven and a 385 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:13.279 half to eight and a half. No, But it's trending upward. I 386 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:19.000 think there's still some writing issues that I have a qualm about. But it's 387 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.200 that this episode kind of kind of hit a reset button and I'm like, 388 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.880 Okay, well let's see where they go again. So I'm kind of taking 389 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.160 an episode at a time. I'm gonna watch it all the way through. 390 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.799 I just you know, you always have that little or at least for me, 391 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:37.759 I have that little thing in the back of my mind saying, please 392 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:44.960 don't be obi wid all right, So I just yeah, I liked episode 393 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:50.279 three. I liked episode three as well. I wasn't expecting to get a 394 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.279 whole flashback episode. I expected us to get flashbacks, but I thought they 395 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:59.440 would be more sporadic. So it was interesting to go back also to see 396 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:05.200 this coven of I guess force users or witches that we haven't seen because they're 397 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.640 not the Night Sisters of Datha Mayr. They're not quite like that. They're 398 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:15.119 more operating in I guess like the more neutral, more gray area of the 399 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:21.480 Force. They are utilizing it in different ways, kind of in dark ways, 400 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.559 because the way Mother Annasea uses it on Tourbin where his eyes go black 401 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.200 and everything was very like kind of dark esque. But the rest of the 402 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.559 time, it doesn't feel like it's necessarily a dark force. And they also 403 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.880 aren't trying to like fight anybody. They're not trying. They're just trying to 404 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.079 live their best life in this secluded area that at least they think it's secluded. 405 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.559 Obviously they don't see eye to eye with the Jedi. I found all 406 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:55.400 that interesting learning about Osha and mays how they came about like kind of in 407 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:02.440 the same way that Anakin Skywalker was created seemingly by the Force. Mother Aniseyah 408 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:09.000 used the Force to get the kids, and Mother Coral was the one that 409 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.920 carried the kids. So there is another instance where seemingly the Force created to 410 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.639 two sides of the same coin. Obviously, because Osha felt more inclined to 411 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.079 believe and do what the Jedi were wanting to do and seeing to do, 412 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:29.039 and then May was obviously just wanting to stick with the parents and stick with 413 00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:34.719 the coven and do everything that the coven does. I found all that very 414 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.000 interesting, and I do like the mystery aspect of it all because we still 415 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.280 even though we go back to Brendock and we see the fire and everything like 416 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.239 that, I still don't think it's clear as to what happened. It still 417 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:57.119 doesn't. The fire doesn't explain all those dead coven witches. It may disappearing 418 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:01.719 or basically falling down that chaft or whatever. Obviously, she didn't die. 419 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.800 Even though I think both Osha and May were led to believe that the other 420 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:15.159 was dead, I think neither one were never under really realized Oh they survived 421 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:22.159 that that encounter that moment or whatever the aspect of all those Covin witches are 422 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.320 are dead, Torbin did not have scars, and then after whatever happens, 423 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.719 he has scars. Like, there's a lot of things here that made me 424 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.920 go, there's there's another perspective that we need to get to figure out what 425 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:42.280 exactly happened. I took it as May saw Osha survive, and I always 426 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.960 thought I took it as oh, May knows Osha is alive. Having seen 427 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:50.960 episode four, it's more in line with she did not realize she was alive. 428 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.599 Okay, okay, Yeah, it's interesting. That's why she's so caught 429 00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.440 by her And I guess it's episode two when and May's in the car, 430 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:06.480 OSHA's like pointing the gun but doesn't shoot, and she's kind of shocked by 431 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:12.239 that whole situation. Yeah, okay. Well, as as the as the 432 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.480 season progresses, more and more friends are getting angry, well yeah, of 433 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.079 course, yeah, but yeah, I mean, I'm god forbid anybody but 434 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.960 white people graze the screen of Star Wars. But no, like you know 435 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.679 that

that stuff never really bothers me. I I really focus on more of 436 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.360 the storyline, and you know what, they're trying to tell instead of actual 437 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.719 the color of someone's skin or the horn on someone's head. But yeah, 438 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:51.599 it's I I I think episode three makes it the first two better, and 439 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.960 I I'm I'm holding out hope that episode four makes episode three better. I 440 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.679 just you know, I want constantly for them to build upon all these episodes. 441 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.000 So, and I know some some people are upset about the whole you 442 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.679 know, Luke was a chosen I mean Luke Anakin was a chosen one, 443 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.320 and the way that he was for sense, it just it kind of takes 444 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:16.679 it, kind of retcons a bunch of stuff. But I think it's just 445 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.400 it's different. I think I feel like the way that they got you know, 446 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.000 the way that they got there versus the way that Anakin got there, 447 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:30.360 that's it's not the same. I you know, the way that I look 448 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.320 at it, it's not the same. And I know a lot of people 449 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.480 look at it that way too, saying it's not the same and you're not 450 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.800 really technically reconning it, which you know, I think. I don't know 451 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.440 that that part doesn't really bother me. The there's always there's always gonna be 452 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.800 continuity issues in every franchise. You're just gonna have to overlook some of the 453 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.280 continuity stuff, like the the the MCU continuity stuff like yeah yeah, like 454 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.199 the years and the way that they reckoned, but a couple of things here 455 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.079 and there. You're just gonna have to overlook that kind of thing and try 456 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.400 to enjoy it for what it is. I mean, we still don't even 457 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.320 know how may was trained. We still don't like, we still don't even 458 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.840 have the full story as of yet, so we really can't even you know, 459 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:16.000 go in like there is no idea of everything that's happened. We're still 460 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.599 have a bit of the story. I do want to go back to the 461 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.960 fire because also in the last issue of Comiccasts, we talked about, you 462 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.639 know, the theories of who the Sith, the Secret Sith Master was or 463 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.000 is, and Chime here is the one that's kind of come up. And 464 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.920 I think after watching episode three, I think there's another person

that we need 465 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:45.719 to consider, and that is Mother Quarrel. Because we don't see her body. 466 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.960 She was the one that was like ready to fight and ready to do 467 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:53.199 this, ready to do that. I feel like she's a strong option to 468 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.840 be the secret Sith that has been training May. It would also make sense 469 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.440 as to well, who would save May in that moment, And if Coral 470 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.559 is still there, which I believe she would be, it would make a 471 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.440 lot of sense for her to be the one that trained her and her go 472 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.280 super dark with it. Yeah, that I think that makes the most sense 473 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:22.599 to me. With the you know, I think the prevailing theory before our 474 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.639 episode three was like, oh, Soul, you know, Soul is going 475 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.920 to be the be the one that's training you know May. No, it 476 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.199 did. That really didn't make sense to me. That really didn't make sense, 477 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.000 and Mother Coral being the one that makes a lot of sense. I 478 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:44.639 lean towards Mother Coral definitely as as as the season progresses, and it does 479 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:49.800 introduce some different aspects in season four as to or maybe not different aspects, 480 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.760 but presents other clues as to who this person may be. But man, 481 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.800 it feels like this is an opportunity. I think the top two or Kymere 482 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.360 and Qorrel. I think that's it's gonna be one of those two. I 483 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:09.000 can't imagine that it's a random other person. I can't imagine it's was it 484 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:13.599 play gifts or whatever. It feels like it's got to be somebody tied to 485 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.840 this story, and it feels like it's one of those two. There is 486 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.199 a lot more questions though, that come up with Kimer and his involvement in 487 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.320 this whole thing and what his connection to the Master is exactly that we see 488 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.559 in episode four. The one other thing that I do want to say about 489 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:34.000 the show, and I think it's more of just a thing about Acolyte in 490 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.559 general or Star Wars shows in general. I really wish they would figure out 491 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:45.199 a way to have a a B NSC storyline because this episode is only this 492 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:52.039 episode four is only thirty four minutes, and it's tight, and it runs 493 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.639 through pretty quickly, and it, you know, it tells the story that 494 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:59.079 it wants to tell. But it would be nice to kind of have something, 495 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.440 have a way to alternate between storylines because they have these different moments where 496 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.000 Osha is talking to other Jedi and it just kind of happens back to back 497 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.039 to back, where it'd be nice to have a story storyline B that would 498 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.880 help thread easily into the edits of the show. I don't know, it's 499 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.559 just and it would like I would like a forty forty five minute episode of 500 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.679 a show. I don't know. That's just me though, Yeah, I 501 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.599 mean, I'm with you. I think the the those episodes can be longer. 502 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.639 And I was surprised, like the premiere episode wasn't an hour, just 503 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.920 like it was like what forty two minutes in total, even with credits, 504 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.280 I think, or something like that. I think the episodes are kind of 505 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.480 on the short end, like forty forty five or something like that. Yeah, 506 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.599 I'm just like, man like that. That feels strange to me. 507 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:55.639 But I mean it's not like, you know, like the first couple episodes, 508 00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.599 it's not noticeable in terms of like, oh, it needs to be 509 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.679 longer, but maybe episode four four might be that in that case, it's 510 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.199 yeah, episode four is a prime example, because especially with where it leaves 511 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.639 off things, it's like, oh my god, please just give me like 512 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:19.760 ten more minutes. Hmm okay, okay, well uh then that means you're 513 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.880 it's probably it's probably gonna be like that throughout the whole season, where it's 514 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.000 gonna be like the in the upper thirties low forties range in terms of episode 515 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.000 length. Maybe the finale gets to forty six minutes. Yeah, that would 516 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.400 be my guess too. But yeah, it's it's still an interesting show. 517 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:43.719 I'm still like engaged with the mystery overall, so we'll see where it goes. 518 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.519 It's it's but I do agree with you. I think it's still in 519 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:52.719 the seven point five camp of of ratings. Uh. Now, I'm curious 520 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.639 if you would put this show, this last show that we'll talk about before 521 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.639 we run out, if you would put it at a seven point five. 522 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.360 But not so. I didn't think so. Season two, Episode one of 523 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:09.400 the House of the Dragon started this past Sunday. I missed

you the A 524 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:15.280 Sun for a Sun. What a show, What a what a premiere it 525 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:22.079 was writing is so so so important. They knocked it out of the park 526 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:29.639 in terms of a premiere. You know, they got you reintroduced to everybody. 527 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:34.320 They mourned, You got some mourning, you got some vengeance, you 528 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.119 got some you know, some chess play, you got some humor, right, 529 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.679 and it just kind of had it all. You had a rat catcher 530 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:50.239 and you had murdering a baby. You you kind of had the gamut of 531 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:57.320 everything that makes this show so good. I you know, I still for 532 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.400 how great it is. I still think Game of Throne is still better at 533 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:07.119 this point but man, they're not far behind. They they're really not far 534 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.559 behind. And I do like the condensed number of characters compared to Game of 535 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.320 Thrones, where Game of Thrones is so diluted with characters, and you know, 536 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.800 they quickly windled them down to to your prime players. But the the 537 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.360 the thing that it made me realize was how pissed off I am at Dan 538 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:34.000 and Dave and the way that and the way that the respect, the respect 539 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.880 that Ryan Condall has for these characters, and and just the way that he 540 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.760 you know, you know, like just the care that he gives to these 541 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:54.639 characters and staying true to their characters and not you know, not they're even 542 00:44:54.679 --> 00:45:02.480 the fast forwarding in season one that was done well. You jumped ahead several 543 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.800 times in season one, and you've done that so well versus what happened with 544 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.559 Game of Thrones where they jump and you're just kind of like, how long 545 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.639 has it been. It's been a few weeks has it been? It? 546 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.400 Just the way that they they've he's been, he's done this show is is 547 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.519 is is great? Was the premiere episode like a solid ten out of ten? 548 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.159 No, but you know, I would put it anywhere between eight eight 549 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.639 eight and a half and a nine, Like, I'm comfortable there, and 550 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.159 you know, it's just it's just it feels so good and gives me great 551 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:42.480 feeling when I hear great or when I when I can visualize and and just 552 00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:46.280 see great acting and writing. It's just it's it has me smiling. I'm 553 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:51.000 glad it's back, and I just I kind of wish that, you know, 554 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.480 it gives me some time to kind of take a breather. But we're 555 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.239 in the middle of this. I don't know if we've ever had a month 556 00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:06.039 like this in terms of just just content gorging. But yeah, this is, 557 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.639 uh, this might be of all the ones that we talk about, 558 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.559 this is this is easily I think the favorite to kind of be the best 559 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.639 out of the bunch. Yeah, I mean, out of the three that 560 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.280 we've watched so far, I feel like House of the Dragon is the best 561 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:28.159 of the bunch. It, like you said, the writing is superb, 562 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:36.280 the acting and the balanced storytelling, the tension created between from moment to moment, 563 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.719 I mean, the tension in those last ten minutes you know, listening 564 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:47.039 to uh right, I think it was Ryan Condall talk about they put the 565 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:53.559 perspective on those two the as they're described in the book Blood and Cheese. 566 00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:00.079 They they put the focus on these two characters that we have not met before, 567 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.000 don't know their names, just know that they've been put on this mission, 568 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:12.880 and the tension created for them just kind of wandering around trying to look 569 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.679 for Aimon Targarian was I mean, it had me on the edge, Like 570 00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.280 I was just like, oh, this is this is obviously going to go 571 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.400 bad, but in what direction is it going to go bad? And obviously 572 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.760 I have not read the book, so I did not know this was pulled 573 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:35.440 from the book. They did make changes, but when they get to the 574 00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:40.079 Queen's room and they make her pick, I was not prepared for that whatsoever. 575 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.719 And I was not prepared for her. You know, her reaction, 576 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:52.599 her going to to why am I blanking on her name? The queen in 577 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.280 that in that moment, of course, she catches her in an awkward position 578 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.159 right there with Kristin Cole. But like, I mean, what a what 579 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.119 a way to end that final ten minutes of the episode. Are you talking 580 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:13.559 about Helena Targarian? Helena Targarian? And then she goes to uh, Alison, 581 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.880 Alison yesh I blanked on her name completely. Yeah. It's yeah, 582 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.519 like when you were mentioning the cheese and mos of blood, blood and cheese, 583 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:29.480

blood and cheese. You're when they get introduced and they give this they 584 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:32.960 get this mission from Damon. I don't know about you, but I was 585 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.480 just like, oh, they're dead. I was like, these these two 586 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:42.800 are nobody's they're dead. And the way that they played it out and you're 587 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.880 just saying, You're like, it keeps they kept going past everybody in the 588 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.079 castle because they're supposed to be there for the rats, and just man, 589 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.519 the foreshadowing where I don't want to take it back and I'll come back to 590 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:02.800 this. But when Helena was just like the rats, the rats earlier, 591 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.559 I don't know if it was earlier in the day or just before she had 592 00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:13.360 this premonition that it was gonna be rats, that you know, that it 593 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:19.639 was just rats, and and then it turns out, yeah, it was 594 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.840 the rats. It was a rat catcher. It ended up being the rat 595 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.320 catcher. And you're just kind of like, man, what beautiful foreshadowing and 596 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.960 just kind of just to you know, just because she has a little bit 597 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.239 crazy in her and just to throw the viewers off and on all that stuff, 598 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.079 and then when they get to the upstairs and they're sitting the traps and 599 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.599 you're just like, they're gonna get caught. These two are nobodies. They're 600 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:44.119 gonna get caught. They're gonna get killed. And then as it keeps playing 601 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:50.400 on, it's that Star Wars meme, the Anakin and the Anakin meme where 602 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:55.719 he asked the question and then or he says a statement and then Adame says 603 00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.760 but it's not right or something like that, and then and then has it's 604 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:02.239 the stupid face. And I was just and I was sitting there, I 605 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.679 was like, they're gonna die, right, And then she points to the 606 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.559 actual boy and then he's like no, she she's lying. And I was 607 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.639 just like, they're gonna die, right. And then you just here just 608 00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.840 and just like oh no. And then just and it takes you a few 609 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.000 seconds of that noise to kind of have that settle and you're just like, 610 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:32.760 oh my god, they really did it. And it was just like it 611 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.800 just it gives you just it gave me just just just a terrible feeling. 612 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:44.320 And just as that terrible feeling is you know, washing over you, you 613 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.559 have you know, you know Helene is just terrified and mortified, and she's 614 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.960 sitting there and she picks up her daughter and just bolts out of there. 615 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.039 So episode two is gonna be interesting because, you know, technically, I 616 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.320 guess it was the son for a son, but it was the wrong one, 617 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:05.199 and there's gonna be a lot of uh in. I don't know if 618 00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.519 you saw the previews, but the previews basically show there's gonna be a lot 619 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:15.679 of backlash from this, especially on Damon. So that speaking of Damon, 620 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:21.039 I want to ask you they like he gives the order to the two guys 621 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.440 about you know, you know Rinera. Obviously she's like, I want am 622 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:29.360 On Targarian, and I think that's the only line she utters in the entire 623 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:34.320 episode, I want am On Targarian. He goes to them and says, 624 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.639 you know, kill am On Targarian and they ask, but like what if 625 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:45.480 they can't find them? And I believe it cuts away. Do you think 626 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:51.280 he ordered them to just like kill whoever at that point, or like don't 627 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:58.440 leave empty handed? Or like did Damon really like push the just kill somebody 628 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.559 narrative to them? See I could see that happening, but I don't think 629 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:08.199 so and what The reason why I don't think so is because those two are 630 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:15.320 so money hungry that they if they can't complete the task, they're not getting 631 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.920 their other half. But technically it is a sun. So if I could 632 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.599 go back with this one, surely we're going to get paid. I feel 633 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.320 like they were so driven by the rat Catcher was so driven by you know, 634 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.679 debt, and the other one was driven by hatred of the high towers 635 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:37.039 and you know, getting paid. I think I think I think they did 636 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:44.360 it on their own. Okay, I lean towards I don't think he outright 637 00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:50.239 told them, but I think he basically said the you don't get your money 638 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.000 unless you deliver something, so I think he kind of led him to that, 639 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.199 like without saying it kind of thing. I could see him doing something 640 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:04.199 along those lines, because I think Damon's just obviously as he's shown, he's 641 00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:08.760 just he acts off the cuff as he tried to act with uh, what's 642 00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:15.800 her name, Rhanerus,

the the Queen that never was. When he tries 643 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:21.719 to order her to like go to use their dragons to kill Vagar and kill 644 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.719 Amon, and she's like no, the mother, she's grieving, Like, 645 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.599 get out of here like I'm not. I'm not yeah, Rainies, Yeah, 646 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:30.920 I'm not listening to you, like get out of here with that, 647 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:36.280 like that moment, which I really appreciated, Uh take that, Damon, 648 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:42.159 But like Damon has really just like if Aimon set the fire, like this 649 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.920 fool just threw gasoline on it, like he just he didn't help the situation 650 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:50.280 whatsoever. Because maybe if you get aim On, like maybe it's like, 651 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.519 Okay, it's a son for a son. We're like, it's we don't 652 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.840 have to start the war. Okay, you went for the wrong son, 653 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.000 you went for like it's over like the worst darting HM. And you know, 654 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:08.199 Damon's the character that's never gonna win, Like he's he's Vegeta, he's 655 00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:16.159 Loki, He's He's he's destined to lose. So he's always going to come 656 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:21.320 up short. And that's that's who he is. And and he's probably gonna 657 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:28.079 die doing something very heroic to to kind of complete that character arc and maybe 658 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:34.119 you know, do just to maybe he'll probably die correcting a mistake. I 659 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.840 think, yeah, I'd finally learn is like learn the right thing. Yeah, 660 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.199 yeah, I think that's his character arc. The other thing is i 661 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:47.519 didn't know Agon was so funny, dude. He just I think, you 662 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:52.840 know, watching the behind the episodes, those things I think are very helpful. 663 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.159 And the way that you know they talk about these characters and and and 664 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:04.480 just the way the way that Ryan Condall kind of talks about this Agon character, 665 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:10.559 where Agon, like his his father, you know, never embraced him, 666 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.159 never brought him into meetings, never, you know, he just didn't 667 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:21.440 treat him like a beloved first son or anything like that. And so you 668 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.480 know, Agon's like doing that different with with his son, and you just 669 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.599 you're just kind of like, you know, you you kind of see that, 670 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.280 and you're just kind of like, man, that's that's and and Agon's 671 00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:34.119 a person that I don't think wants to be King, and I you know 672 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.920

that kind of you know, was like that he was the drunk. He 673 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.000 didn't want to be King, and and he's kind of forced to be in 674 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:46.280 this role. And yeah, it's just I I there's a lot of sympathy 675 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.440 being shown by a lot of people towards Agon Targarian, and you know that 676 00:55:53.199 --> 00:56:00.519 you know this it makes the show great because there's no bad guy, there's 677 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.840 no good guy. There's a lot of gray. There's a lot of gray 678 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.519 like there. I think most people are on Team Black, but you have 679 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.320 a lot of Team Green sympathizers as well. And I think Agon is one 680 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.039 of those people that people sympathize with because you know, he's trying to be 681 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.679 a good king. He's trying to be a king that is going to please 682 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.880 a lot of people and keep people happy, you know, as you can 683 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.840 tell with the goat thing and the sheep thing, and then and then he 684 00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.639 gets talked right back into taking the sheep away by auto. And then now 685 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:37.920 you have you know, other people in you know, in his brother's ear 686 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:45.119 right trying to usurp the power of auto all that stuff. So it's, 687 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.360 uh, there's it's a lot of chess pieces moving here and there, and 688 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.960 I thoroughly enjoy it. And there's a lot of complexities to most all these 689 00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:59.760 characters. Yeah, who is it? Lord Jarris? Is his name? 690 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.880 I forget if it's the guy that like basically gives egg on the idea of 691 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.480 like, you know, if you want to stand on your own, you 692 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:14.360 may have to move on from uh, from from him, from being your 693 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.480 hand right, Like, Yeah, yeah, it's Lord Larry's larr Larry's Larry's 694 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:21.880 Larry's. Yeah, it almost seems like I should be the hand right, 695 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:23.880 Yeah, yeah, it does feel like that. Also, I'm terrible with 696 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.000 the names. I apologize. It's funny. His uh his nickname is Clubfoot 697 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:34.480 because of the way he walks. It's almost like Littlefoot. Yeah. He 698 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:39.719 very much is operating like like little Finger from from Game of Throne. So 699 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.199 uh, yeah, it's and it's an interesting spot that they put. Obviously, 700 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.880 Ranera and for the most part, she's grieving through a majority of this 701 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:53.239 episode, and and you know, she finally like when she finds a bit 702 00:57:53.559 --> 00:58:00.480 of

of you know, her son's dragon and I guess his cloak or whatever, 703 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:06.119 like then she kind of like finally like loses it, loses it. 704 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:13.840 And that moment where her and her other son like he's reporting back after meeting 705 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.360 Craig Craigan Stark and you know, we got this and we got that, 706 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.719 but they're both trying to like hold it together but they can't. Like that 707 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.920 was such a powerful moment. Yeah. And did you know that, uh, 708 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:32.079 Raners her dragon was the mother of her son's dragon. No, I 709 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.599 did not know. Yeah, someone pointed that out, and they're just like 710 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.119 yeah, they're both grieving. Yeah, yeah, they were. They were 711 00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:43.239 both on the on the shore. And but you know her dragon was, 712 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.159 you know, screaming, and you look back and like, oh yeah, 713 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:51.840 so if if if, if that was her offspring too, I mean she's 714 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.920 grieving as well. Yeah, it's a it's a double hit on grief and 715 00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:00.840 for that. Yeah, man, and where she goes in the next episode, 716 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:06.840 because once the word gets out that it was not Aimin and it was 717 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:13.000 j Harris I believe is his name. Uh, it's it's just gonna set 718 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:16.280 her off, I'm sure because obviously everyone's going to figure out Damon like set 719 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:21.480 this up if he doesn't just outright say it. Yeah, I'm sure he 720 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.119 would. He'd be like it was me. Yeah, I'm sure he'll claim 721 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:29.199 it. Yeah. Yeah. And I also in the the the the relationship 722 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:34.519 between Kristen Cole and Aimin, I think that's a nice that's a dynamic that 723 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.920 I kind of want to see play out and and kind of blossom because it's 724 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:45.800 like two soldiers kind of strategizing and talking war. And I almost feel like 725 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:52.280 Renea doesn't have that. I it's just she doesn't have anybody that is there 726 00:59:52.360 --> 01:00:00.519 to advise her. I mean, Lord Corliss maybe he's the only like seasoned 727 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.360 veteran warrior that they have on that side. So that's that's going to be 728 01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:07.000 into the the the war aspect of it's going to be very interesting because they're 729 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:12.360 on a they you know, they in terms of just fighting in dragons, 730 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:17.519 they're kind of at a disadvantage. The only advantage they have is to see 731 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:22.079 and I guess they're they're cutting off the ports and that all that kind

of 732 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.840 thing, and they're just kind of trying to wait them out. But if 733 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.639 they wanted to, if you know, high Towers wanted to, they could 734 01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.159 just take their dragons and just burn everything down. Like Brenera, it's has 735 01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:38.320 no there's no chance of her actually winning a dragon to dragon you know, 736 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.320 you know troops type of war it would it would have. They would have 737 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.360 to outsmart them in some way. And and like you said, I don't 738 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:54.679 know that Branera has like a backing of sorts that are are willing to do 739 01:00:54.760 --> 01:01:00.960 that for her or understanding of that what needs to be done. But of 740 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:06.880 course on Team Greenside you have a lot a lot of infighting, oh and 741 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.760 a lot of power struggle right now, that could undermine everything that they try 742 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:15.960 and set out to do, because obviously agon he needs to be steer steered 743 01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.800 in some way, right Like he he doesn't seem like the like he just 744 01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.039 seems like one of the guys, but he also doesn't seem like the necessarily 745 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:28.559 the brightest bulb. So now with the death of his son, though, 746 01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.039 he's just gonna fly off the handle, and that's that's gonna undermine any type 747 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:38.639 of strategy that they have. And I could just see him just undermining everything. 748 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.000 Yeah, and you're gonna I almost feel like you're gonna see a little 749 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:47.039 bit of Jeoffrey come out of that of there. He's more complex, He's 750 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:52.639 definitely more complex than Jeoffrey. But when Jeffrey was pushed, you know, 751 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.599 the just the sadistic nature of Jeoffrey made him dangerous, and I feel like 752 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.800 some of that might come out. I would agree with that, I think. 753 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.800 I mean, for the fact that the kid gets killed in his own 754 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:10.639 bed, and however they leave the boy or you know whatever, it's just 755 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:17.119 gonna set that set him off to no end and possibly Jeoffrey levels. I 756 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.760 do want to quickly go back to Helena and Targaria and just quickly mentioned that 757 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.320 I was reading I think it was Ryan that was talking about it in an 758 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:30.039 interview with like Variety or something, and he described her as like she's not 759 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:37.480 like she's not like magical necessarily, but she there is something called like a 760 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:43.320 dragon dreamer I believe is what it was called, and they have like premonitions 761 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.880 like this. So she has different premonitions that just maybe don't make a lot 762 01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:52.119 of sense, but they seem to come true more often than not. So 763 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.519 I just wanted to mention that and found that interesting. I also wanted to 764 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:01.639 mention I like that they're also like following the book, and uh, maybe 765 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:07.679 a couple other people could have like maybe learned from you know. I mean, 766 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.960 I guess to be fair, Georgian didn't finish Winds of Winter, which 767 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.039 is why they kind of went off the rails. That's also why, Yeah, 768 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.440 it's true. I'm just saying, like, see what happens, see 769 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.519 what happens when you follow the book. Yeah, And and one of the 770 01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.480 other things that I wanted to kind of mention is, uh, at the 771 01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.000 very very beginning, man, the nostalgia factor on the show, even though 772 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.599 Game of Thrones hasn't been off the air for that long. But when you 773 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:38.440 hear a voice, the soothing Stark voice, dude, I was just like 774 01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:44.199 it sounded like Kit Harrington, but it wasn't. It was was it Craig 775 01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:49.239 Gon, Craign Stark, Craiger Stark. Yeah, it's uh it. It 776 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.880 just took me back and gave me the feels and it's just like it everything 777 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.719 that was great about Game of Thrones and you know, of the North, 778 01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:01.039 it just rushed back to me. And just the the mannerism were like scary. 779 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.159 It was a lot like John Snow, just the way that the the 780 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.159 the way that he talks, the way that he kind of sits back, 781 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:15.280 kinds of kind of observes everything and just kind of presenting how he feels without 782 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.800 rushing into any you know, rash decision. He just kind of analyzes that 783 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:23.400 he's sitting there, he's just kind of analyzing it, talking, you know, 784 01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.400 talking on the slower side, just kind of like talking through everything, 785 01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.440 and it's just kind of like, man, that's just that that's a lot 786 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.880 of the people that were part of the Star of Stark House. It was 787 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:39.920 nice to go back to the wall, like we obviously we haven't seen the 788 01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.360 North or the Wall and quite some time, and and to have it done 789 01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:46.960 in that way, I thought it did harken to a lot of like what 790

01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:53.199 we first loved about about Game of Thrones and then going back to Winterfell and 791 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:58.360 well specifically in this case, the Wall was was a nice, like nice 792 01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:02.559 way to open things obviously there it's one of the last ways that they're delivering 793 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:08.880 the news of the death of of Luke. Luke I believe is the name. 794 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.239 I could be wrong, the one kid at the end of season one, 795 01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.400 but it was I like that they went with that direction and it did 796 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:19.800 like the kid that played craig Or Stark. I mean, he nailed the 797 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:24.000 mannerisms, nailed to everything about it, and there was a cool confidence about 798 01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:29.360 him, even as he's kind of like like negotiating, if you will, 799 01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.719 of what he can give to the Targarians and what he can give to to 800 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:38.599 Ranera and her her side of things. Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna 801 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:45.159 be The season itself is going to be very very you know, the tensions 802 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:50.639 are going to be very high, and it's I'm gonna it circles Sunday's every 803 01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:55.840 freaking like it's it's appointment of of all the shows. I think, you 804 01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.559 know this, it's this Boys, and then I think Star Wars in terms 805 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.119 of a point been viewing, and I think, well, for me, 806 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:06.159 when when well, I guess, I guess the Bears releasing all their episodes. 807 01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:11.599 But but yeah, it's uh, yeah, this is definitely s tier 808 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:19.039 appointment viewing television. Yeah, and this sea, and especially with season one, 809 01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:23.840 was the build up to this to all this moment, right, like 810 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:28.639 they all the time jumps, everything was building to this to this moment, 811 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.840 and we're here. I don't know that we're getting a lot of time jumps 812 01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:39.000 anytime soon, because I think the war is finally upon us and it's about 813 01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.360 everything's about to go down and there's a lot of things about to happen, 814 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:50.039 which it the show has displayed that it has. While it maybe it's not 815 01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:56.320 as not near the Heights just yet of Game of Thrones, it's definitely in 816 01:06:56.400 --> 01:07:00.960 the realm of it, and it's it's it's hitting on all the cylinders so 817 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:05.280 far just through one episode. Yeah, and this seems like this seems like 818 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:10.920 it's gonna be a very short series, like three to five seasons. Yeah, 819 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:14.079 I could see that honestly, I could see that because I mean, 820 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:17.320 once you there is a specific story we don't. Like you mentioned earlier, 821 01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:21.280 we don't have all the characters that we were in Game of Thrones, we 822 01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:25.599 were checking in with all these different places. We check in with one place, 823 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.679 be there for like ten minutes, and then maybe we get a check 824 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.480 in the next episode. Maybe not this one. It is more focused. 825 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.599 It is more focused with its characters, and we're gonna be checking in with 826 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:41.480 those characters each and every week. Uh. And I am cruising on Reddit 827 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.199 Game of Thrones Reddit and multiple people said that they came out and said four 828 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.920 to five. Like they said, they recall them talking about doing four to 829 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:53.440 five. That makes sense. I think that makes sense for the show and 830 01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:57.199 what they're the story that they're trying to tell. Yeah, yeah, makes 831 01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.760 a lot of sense. All right, you know what makes a lot of 832 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:04.079 sense. As we go away, we're done for issue five forty three of 833 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:10.400 Comcast. Thank you all, oh people listening, you are you have no 834 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:15.960 idea? You think? Think Michael extra extra thank you to Michael because he's 835 01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:20.359 there's a lot of piecing together on this thing. So yeah, there's there 836 01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:25.439 was a lot of hiccups in this In this issue, I'm gonna wave my 837 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:30.119 fist at my internet so hard right now. Uh yeah, well that'll be 838 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.199 interesting. So thank you all for listening. 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