Full Transcript for A Case Almost Too Heartbreaking To Mention_ Jennifer Martin

would say, Jennifer, 73 00:04:28.610 --> 00:04:31.509 you've got to come home, honey. We've got to finish 74 00:04:31.569 --> 00:04:36.360 baking our pie. It was just unbelievable. 75 00:04:36.899 --> 00:04:40.310 Colleen explained that the Martin family was so close and 76 00:04:40.509 --> 00:04:44.129 even looked so similar that her own daughter was mistaken 77 00:04:44.170 --> 00:04:46.850 for Jennifer a few days after the search began. 78 00:04:47.389 --> 00:04:51.980 My daughter was walking home from the bus one day 79 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.800 and my daughter was 14 but had long brown hair. 80 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:00.860 The Martin family all have the same looks. Our noses 81 00:05:00.980 --> 00:05:03.069 all look the same and our hairs are all the 82 00:05:03.129 --> 00:05:08.139 same color and Jennifer's disappearance has been treated as a 83 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.180 possible abduction from the beginning. 84 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:29.290 However... Taking a look at a video that shows just 85 00:05:29.350 --> 00:05:33.509 how close Jennifer's house really was to the 7-Eleven makes 86 00:05:33.629 --> 00:05:36.040 the whole thing that much stranger. 87 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:38.500 You've got to see how close Martin's house is to 88 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.300 the 7-Eleven. So here's her house right there and the 89 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.240 7-Eleven right there. 90 00:05:44.019 --> 00:05:46.980 Not even a block away and she told them that 91 00:05:47.060 --> 00:05:50.629 she was going to go to the 7-Eleven and so 92 00:05:50.670 --> 00:05:53.250 she walked down there and she had a little girlfriend 93 00:05:53.290 --> 00:05:59.360 that lived directly across the dirt road from the 7-Eleven. 94 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.660 She stopped in the middle of the road and asked 95 00:06:02.699 --> 00:06:07.300 her friend if she could come to the 7-Eleven with her. 96 00:06:07.500 --> 00:06:10.740 Apparently her friend got into trouble and her mother said, no, 97 00:06:10.819 --> 00:06:13.000 you can't go and I don't have any money anyway. 98 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.680 So Jennifer goes, okay, and went skipping off to the store, 99 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:19.240 went in and got the stuff she was looking for, 100 00:06:19.779 --> 00:06:22.399 went back around the side of the 7-Eleven and was 101 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:23.870 never seen by anybody again. 102 00:06:24.509 --> 00:06:28.680 Interestingly, Colleen says that authorities have followed up on this 103 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.660 girlfriend of Jennifer's, but nothing much has come from it. 104 00:06:33.060 --> 00:06:36.420 They brought her up here a couple of times and 105 00:06:36.459 --> 00:06:40.329 talked to her, and then they hypnotized her one other time, 106 00:06:40.769 --> 00:06:43.810 but she just wasn't able, and that was the girlfriend 107 00:06:43.829 --> 00:06:46.490 that I was telling you about. Now, they had been 108 00:06:46.589 --> 00:06:50.829 hanging out

together throughout the day, you know, walking up 109 00:06:50.889 --> 00:06:53.589 and down that little dirt road there. They have brought 110 00:06:53.629 --> 00:06:56.889 her up here. She lives in Vegas now and is 111 00:06:57.529 --> 00:07:01.029 an absolute mess from that whole ordeal. 112 00:07:01.350 --> 00:07:04.399 Initially, one of the leads was a white pickup truck 113 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.920 that was spotted in the area around the time that 114 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:08.060 Jennifer disappeared. 115 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:13.360 We heard that there was a small white Chevy pickup 116 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:19.370 A light-colored Toyota Corolla was also spotted by witnesses in 117 00:07:19.569 --> 00:07:23.370 connection to the disappearance. But authorities have yet to identify 118 00:07:23.410 --> 00:07:24.550 it or its owner. 119 00:07:40.610 --> 00:07:43.750 We were originally alerted to this cold case by a 120 00:07:43.790 --> 00:07:48.110 woman named Rachel Bixby. She's a missing persons advocate in 121 00:07:48.209 --> 00:07:52.920 Reno who works as a liaison with law enforcement. Rachel 122 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:57.379 creates public and social media campaigns to generate tips on 123 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:02.839 regional cold cases. She's worked on several high-profile cases, and 124 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.339 her current focus is finding out what in the world 125 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:07.939 happened to Jennifer Martins. 126 00:08:08.769 --> 00:08:12.550 I was introduced to missing persons advocacy by a friend 127 00:08:12.589 --> 00:08:14.730 of mine who was working on the Amber Graham case 128 00:08:14.769 --> 00:08:17.589 out of Reading and did work with the family there. 129 00:08:17.610 --> 00:08:20.790 And we started working for a national nonprofit. After a 130 00:08:20.810 --> 00:08:23.319 few years, decided to go out on my own and 131 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:28.120 start my own organization. And so I basically I've been 132 00:08:28.139 --> 00:08:30.120 working with regional cases, which is what I wanted to 133 00:08:30.139 --> 00:08:33.200 focus on more, primarily cold cases that don't have a 134 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.799 lot of attention and the family needs representation to work 135 00:08:37.820 --> 00:08:40.659 with law enforcement. And that's something that whenever I can, 136 00:08:40.700 --> 00:08:43.440 I try to work as liaison between the family and 137 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.679 law enforcement because the family doesn't always have all the 138 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.240 tools that they need to work through some of these situations. 139 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.600 So that's how I started initially working on cases. This 140 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:59.000 case is, I lived in the area when this happened, 141 00:08:59.059 --> 00:09:02.000 and I think it was 1987, if I remember, yeah, 87. 142 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:03.860 I lived in the area where this happened and I 143 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.360 remember it was a very big deal and never heard 144 00:09:07.419 --> 00:09:10.919 anything about it for years. And so when I started 145 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.100 working on my own, it was one of 10 cases 146 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:14.840 that I really wanted to focus on. 147 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.879 Rachel told us a bit more about the impact Jennifer's 148 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:20.360 story had on the community. 149 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:21.120 I do. 150 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.519 I was probably about, I was trying to think, I 151 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:25.379 want to say I was like seven. I was pretty 152 00:09:25.419 --> 00:09:27.879 young and it definitely had an impact on the children 153 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.230 in the area. I know we were very concerned and 154 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:34.429 the families were Rachel has been working closely with Jennifer's 155 00:09:34.490 --> 00:09:37.000 family for years in an attempt to spread awareness about 156 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:40.000 the case and sniff out clues. We love her. She 157 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.360 has done so much on behalf of Jennifer and our family. 158 00:09:42.379 --> 00:09:51.750 It's just amazing. Hace and sniff out clues. 159 00:09:51.769 --> 00:09:56.779 Rachel remains hopeful as she says that her efforts have 160 00:09:56.860 --> 00:10:01.440 generated multiple leads, one of which, she says, seems extremely promising. 161 00:10:11.940 --> 00:10:14.000 So basically what I did is I drum up public 162 00:10:14.059 --> 00:10:18.000 interest in the case again. So I started a centralized 163 00:10:18.059 --> 00:10:21.779 campaign within a certain radius of where Jennifer disappeared from 164 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:25.360 to try to get more attention on the case again 165 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:29.950 and also generate leads, hopefully. And so it worked. I 166 00:10:30.169 --> 00:10:33.090 received a number of leads, most of which I would 167 00:10:33.129 --> 00:10:37.269 say were not relevant to the case. And I went 168 00:10:37.289 --> 00:10:39.330 through all the information that was provided by the family, 169 00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:43.159 did my own interviews. compared timelines, came up with my own. 170 00:10:43.179 --> 00:10:46.559 And anything that I could, basically if there's anything I 171 00:10:46.580 --> 00:10:49.340 can eliminate as a lead, then I will prior to 172 00:10:49.379 --> 00:10:52.860 reaching out to law enforcement. If I can't disprove something, 173 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:57.000 then I'll reach out to law enforcement to have them 174 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:58.279 pursue the lead further. 175 00:10:58.659 --> 00:11:02.909 The only problem is Rachel has spent over 18 months 176 00:11:03.070 --> 00:11:06.210 trying to get local law enforcement to pursue the lead, 177 00:11:06.750 --> 00:11:12.730 seemingly to no avail. She wrote... To date, despite assurances, 178 00:11:12.870 --> 00:11:16.399 they are extremely

interested. I have not had any meaningful 179 00:11:16.460 --> 00:11:19.799 follow-up from law enforcement to look into the lead. Which 180 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.120 brings me to why I am reaching out to you. 181 00:11:22.539 --> 00:11:25.789 Perhaps this type of coverage would provide the necessary push 182 00:11:25.850 --> 00:11:27.549 they need to help the family. 183 00:11:28.370 --> 00:11:30.370 I know law enforcement struggles with these cases quite a 184 00:11:30.370 --> 00:11:32.470 bit because they just don't have the manpower to handle them. 185 00:11:32.809 --> 00:11:35.840 But in this instance, I really feel like this could 186 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.320 be there's maybe time constraints on being able to follow 187 00:11:39.379 --> 00:11:41.740 up on this lead. And there's not a lot of 188 00:11:41.779 --> 00:11:44.610 movement from law enforcement. So I'm hoping that maybe just 189 00:11:45.470 --> 00:11:47.870 bringing more attention to the case might bring someone forward 190 00:11:47.909 --> 00:11:51.009 to say something or maybe get law enforcement to give 191 00:11:51.029 --> 00:11:53.269 them a little push. But that's where I'm at with that. 192 00:11:54.330 --> 00:11:57.639 In discussing how this case rocked the small community of 193 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:02.710 Lemon Valley, Rachel also mentioned another suspicious disappearance that had 194 00:12:02.750 --> 00:12:04.850 occurred just a few years before. 195 00:12:06.110 --> 00:12:08.370 I think what might have also really had an impact 196 00:12:08.409 --> 00:12:11.289 on the community is that in 1983, about five years 197 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.519 prior to this, there was another missing person. person's case 198 00:12:14.740 --> 00:12:18.000 of Tony Franco, who disappeared from pretty much the exact 199 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.980 same area that Jennifer did. And so when this happened, 200 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:23.259 people were sort of like, wait a minute, is there, 201 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:25.379 you know, could they be related? And I think that 202 00:12:25.419 --> 00:12:27.340 sort of had, I think that also had an impact 203 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:27.919 on the community. 204 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.039 Rachel linked us to a Reddit thread in r slash 205 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:37.580 unresolved mysteries started by a user called Archie's mom. Here, 206 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:42.600 the post's author pointed out, quote, Two children disappeared four 207 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:46.399 years apart in a small suburb north of Reno, Nevada. 208 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.679 They were both last seen within blocks of the same 209 00:12:49.700 --> 00:12:54.960 7-Eleven store. Could these cases be related? Could they have 210 00:12:54.980 --> 00:12:58.799 been taken by the same person? The other child in 211 00:12:58.860 --> 00:13:03.669 question was Anthony, or Tony, Bernard Franco. On May 8, 1983, 212 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.970 Tony vanished from Lemon Valley at the age of 10. 213 00:13:10.059 --> 00:13:13.080 He was last seen walking to school on that morning 214 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.159 in a red San Francisco 49ers t-shirt, blue jeans, a 215 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:23.200 blue down-hooded jacket, and hiking boots. He was in fifth 216 00:13:23.259 --> 00:13:25.899 grade at the time and lived only a half mile 217 00:13:25.950 --> 00:13:30.889 from the school with his mother and stepfather. Strangely, Tony 218 00:13:30.990 --> 00:13:34.850 strayed from his normal route that day. While his everyday 219 00:13:34.889 --> 00:13:38.029 routine was to walk to school north of Fremont Street, 220 00:13:38.350 --> 00:13:41.759 he apparently chose to go in the opposite direction that day. 221 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:45.320 A few months after he went missing, a witness came 222 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.519 forward to say that they'd seen Tony in a cul-de-sac 223 00:13:48.580 --> 00:13:51.580 on the north end of Fremont Street, talking to an 224 00:13:51.750 --> 00:13:55.909 unknown individual driving a rusty vehicle, thought to be a 225 00:13:55.950 --> 00:14:00.330 Ford Pinto or a Camaro. Reddit user Archie's mom, who 226 00:14:00.370 --> 00:14:04.200 made the thread comparing Jennifer's case to Tony's, shared this 227 00:14:04.259 --> 00:14:07.820 helpful map showing where the two went missing in relation 228 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:12.509 to one another. The user theorized that Tony's unusual choice 229 00:14:12.549 --> 00:14:15.309 of direction that day could have meant he planned to 230 00:14:15.409 --> 00:14:19.629 stop by the 7-Eleven before school. Was this convenience store, 231 00:14:19.950 --> 00:14:23.289 the same one that Jennifer visited right before she vanished, 232 00:14:24.049 --> 00:14:27.080 being watched by an abductor waiting to strike on young 233 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:31.980 children in the area? Interestingly, in contrast to Jennifer's case, 234 00:14:32.139 --> 00:14:35.120 where all who knew her insisted that she was very 235 00:14:35.179 --> 00:14:39.529 hard-headed and wouldn't willingly speak with a stranger, Tony's case 236 00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:43.490 appeared to be the opposite. His mother allegedly stated that 237 00:14:43.570 --> 00:14:46.769 Tony was somewhat naive for his age and would have 238 00:14:46.809 --> 00:14:50.860 talked to a stranger. This was the last time Tony 239 00:14:50.889 --> 00:14:53.980 was ever seen. He would never show up for class 240 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.340 that day, And because the school didn't notify his parents 241 00:14:57.379 --> 00:15:00.690 of his absence, they had no inkling that anything was 242 00:15:00.750 --> 00:15:05.269 wrong until several hours later. Tony was always supposed to 243 00:15:05.309 --> 00:15:08.850 call his mother upon arriving home from school every day. 244 00:15:09.389 --> 00:15:14.990 But this day, her phone never rang. Still, his mother 245 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:18.669 likely shrugged it off as a

simple mistake or forgetfulness. 246 00:15:19.250 --> 00:15:22.019 But when she got home, there was still no sign 247 00:15:22.059 --> 00:15:25.679 of her little boy. As the sky began to darken outside, 248 00:15:25.990 --> 00:15:29.990 the town growing quiet as dusk creeped in, she knew 249 00:15:30.230 --> 00:15:35.769 something was very wrong and notified police. At first, police 250 00:15:35.830 --> 00:15:40.230 were skeptical about his disappearance. Tony had reportedly run away 251 00:15:40.289 --> 00:15:42.929 from home just a month prior and gone into the 252 00:15:42.970 --> 00:15:45.549 mountains as a result of his mother punishing him for 253 00:15:45.570 --> 00:15:50.129 getting bad grades. But things were different this time. When 254 00:15:50.169 --> 00:15:53.100 he had run away... Tony had taken some food and 255 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.240 dishes along for the trip, and even left a goodbye 256 00:15:56.299 --> 00:16:00.019 note behind. This time, there were no signs that the 257 00:16:00.059 --> 00:16:03.519 boy had planned to go away. And while his runaway 258 00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:06.740 attempt had only lasted a few hours before he ran back, 259 00:16:07.220 --> 00:16:09.679 crying to his mother that he'd never run away again, 260 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:14.759 this time, hours ticked by and became days, and it 261 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.100 didn't look like Tony was ever going to make it 262 00:16:17.179 --> 00:16:22.299 back home. Nonetheless, authorities wasted valuable time in their assumption 263 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:27.120 that this was another harmless runaway attempt, allowing several days 264 00:16:27.230 --> 00:16:31.289 to pass before they started looking into other theories. Tony's 265 00:16:31.370 --> 00:16:33.850 mother pointed out how happy he was to be a 266 00:16:33.889 --> 00:16:37.360 member of the 4-H club, even having won a blue 267 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.899 ribbon for showing his pet pony and two rabbits at 268 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:45.480 a show the day before his disappearance. Some reports say 269 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.779 that Tony proudly packed his ribbon for school the next day, 270 00:16:49.500 --> 00:16:53.360 bursting with excitement to show it to his friends. Others 271 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.799 claim his mother took it to work with her to 272 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.970 show off to her friends. Either way, it just didn't 273 00:17:00.019 --> 00:17:03.210 make sense that his disappearance could have been on purpose. 274 00:17:04.190 --> 00:17:08.869 Investigators now believe that he was most likely abducted and murdered. 275 00:17:09.750 --> 00:17:11.869 But his mother never gave up hope that he could 276 00:17:11.930 --> 00:17:16.819 still be alive somewhere out there. Tony's mother and stepfather 277 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:22.059 were administered polygraph tests and subsequently ruled out as suspects 278 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:27.829 in the little boy's disappearance. Unfortunately, his case, like Jennifer's, 279 00:17:28.390 --> 00:17:32.460 has gone ice cold and no strong suspects have ever 280 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:37.640 really been identified. So, going back to the Reddit thread, 281 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.880 this user speculated that in their own opinion, a man 282 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.900 named Stephen Keasley could have allegedly had something to do 283 00:17:45.980 --> 00:17:52.029 with both Tony and Jennifer's disappearances. According to the Mercury News, 284 00:17:52.549 --> 00:17:57.440 Stephen was a priest until he was defrocked in 1987. 285 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.460 Police documents reveal that Stephen had been arrested and charged 286 00:18:01.579 --> 00:18:06.240 on the allegation of 13 counts of child molestation during 287 00:18:06.309 --> 00:18:10.710 his time at Santa Paula Catholic Church in Fremont, Nevada, 288 00:18:11.029 --> 00:18:15.869 during the late 60s and early 70s. All but two 289 00:18:15.990 --> 00:18:19.750 of these charges were reportedly thrown out after a Supreme 290 00:18:19.809 --> 00:18:24.099 Court ruling that dealt with the statute of limitations. Some 291 00:18:24.299 --> 00:18:28.819 online resources speculate he was allegedly looked into in connection 292 00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:33.359 with Tony and Jennifer's case at one point. According to 293 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:38.599 the Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, police investigated him and used 294 00:18:38.660 --> 00:18:42.880 cadaver dogs, a radar, and a backhoe to search Stephen's 295 00:18:42.900 --> 00:18:47.500 yard for evidence. The only item purportedly recovered was a 296 00:18:47.539 --> 00:18:52.180 bag filled with dirt and possible decomposed clothing. They found 297 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.480 nothing that connected him to any crime that had been 298 00:18:55.700 --> 00:19:01.769 reported as of early August 2002. But many years later, 299 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:07.089 in 2004, Stephen pled no contest to a felony charge 300 00:19:07.190 --> 00:19:12.670 of molestation concerning a young girl in 1995 at his Truckee, 301 00:19:12.690 --> 00:19:17.990 Nevada vacation home. Stephen ended up serving six years in prison. 302 00:19:18.690 --> 00:19:22.670 But despite that, No evidence has been found linking him 303 00:19:22.890 --> 00:19:26.890 to Jennifer or Tony. Reddit users in the comments were 304 00:19:26.970 --> 00:19:30.279 quick to point out how strange the discovery of buried 305 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:34.400 clothes was. Surely they reasoned if you want to get 306 00:19:34.460 --> 00:19:36.839 rid of clothes, you either throw them away in the 307 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.680 garbage or give them away. But to bury them in 308 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:44.450 the yard is definitely an unorthodox choice. With all these 309 00:19:44.609 --> 00:19:49.130 odd signs and online allegations, we asked Rachel to expound 310 00:19:49.190 --> 00:19:53.099 on this theory. Did she believe that Stephen

Kiesley could 311 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.559 possibly be behind both child abductions as some have theorized? 312 00:19:58.220 --> 00:20:00.700 I don't. And he, from what I have seen, at 313 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.039 least I've never seen him, he was a suspect in, 314 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.579 I think, both cases, but they never actually... Nothing ever 315 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.700 came of it. I think he was actually eliminated as 316 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.730 a possible suspect in that. But I do not think 317 00:20:13.069 --> 00:20:15.769 that he was, that was who was involved. I think 318 00:20:15.809 --> 00:20:18.039 it was someone local in the community, like someone that, 319 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.660 or excuse me, not. I think it was someone else 320 00:20:21.619 --> 00:20:22.420 that lived nearby. 321 00:20:23.190 --> 00:20:26.799 We asked Colleen if the investigators had leaned towards the 322 00:20:26.900 --> 00:20:30.480 theory that the same person could be responsible for both 323 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.200 Tony and Jennifer's disappearances. 324 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.880 At first they did, but then they started thinking that 325 00:20:38.009 --> 00:20:44.079 someone else probably abducted Tony. And then they started following. 326 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.480 They called him Bubba. They're from the South. He was creepy. 327 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.940 I didn't like him at all. And he was here visiting. 328 00:20:52.309 --> 00:20:55.430 And Jennifer didn't like him at all either. And so 329 00:20:55.490 --> 00:20:57.369 she would come and stay with me as often as 330 00:20:57.430 --> 00:21:00.410 she could. They gave him a polygraph here, which they 331 00:21:00.609 --> 00:21:03.430 did all of us. He had the polygraph and he 332 00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:05.650 failed it. He just said he was nervous. You know, 333 00:21:05.670 --> 00:21:07.799 he was just really nervous. So they gave it to 334 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:12.730 him again. And it was inconclusive. They never arrested him 335 00:21:12.809 --> 00:21:15.950 or anything. I know they interrogated him, but they never 336 00:21:16.009 --> 00:21:20.130 had enough evidence to arrest him or anything. So I 337 00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:22.210 was like, oh, I just wanted to come back here 338 00:21:22.230 --> 00:21:24.690 so I can punch him in his eye. You had 339 00:21:24.730 --> 00:21:28.349 to know something, you know, for him to polygraph, to 340 00:21:28.390 --> 00:21:32.079 be inconclusive twice and for him to have failed at once. 341 00:21:32.450 --> 00:21:33.000 Come on. 342 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.920 Interestingly, though. Rachel also took the time to explain what 343 00:21:37.980 --> 00:21:41.369 she's been able to gather about the vehicles allegedly spotted 344 00:21:41.529 --> 00:21:45.289 near the time of Jennifer's disappearance. And they may have 345 00:21:45.410 --> 00:21:47.809 some connection to Tony's case. 346 00:21:48.589 --> 00:21:52.170 And then as far as the vehicles, that's actually, that's interesting. 347 00:21:52.230 --> 00:21:54.890 So according to what I've seen online, which, you know, 348 00:21:55.109 --> 00:21:58.309 who knows how accurate the information online is, but there 349 00:21:58.349 --> 00:22:01.859 was a white pickup truck that, according to the article, 350 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:04.569 says that this was accounted for. that they were able 351 00:22:04.650 --> 00:22:07.349 to validate who this vehicle belonged to. I think I 352 00:22:07.390 --> 00:22:09.890 saw some accounts saying it was from the family. It 353 00:22:09.910 --> 00:22:13.130 was actually the ones that– it was a family vehicle. 354 00:22:13.869 --> 00:22:16.369 But when I spoke to the family about both of 355 00:22:16.430 --> 00:22:18.750 these vehicles, they said they had no clue. They'd never 356 00:22:18.789 --> 00:22:20.269 heard of this, and they didn't know what they were 357 00:22:20.309 --> 00:22:25.769 talking about. So there was a light-colored Toyota Corolla and 358 00:22:25.789 --> 00:22:29.859 a white pickup truck that were– both apparently in the 359 00:22:29.940 --> 00:22:32.380 area that could have possibly been related to the case. 360 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:35.119 I think what also is interesting is I believe one 361 00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:37.799 of these vehicles was also reported in the Tony Franco case, 362 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.039 which is sort of interesting that they, you know, there 363 00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:41.140 was a similar vehicle related. 364 00:22:41.859 --> 00:22:46.339 So, moving on to the other options, Rachel explained the 365 00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:50.140 leads she's been able to secure. She described that many 366 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:54.640 tips flooded in after she spearheaded a local campaign. Rachel 367 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:57.400 told us that while a number of the new tips 368 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.740 were questionable and able to be ruled out after a 369 00:23:00.779 --> 00:23:05.950 vetting process, there was one in particular which was viable. 370 00:23:06.289 --> 00:23:09.170 Basically what happened was I received, someone reached out to me, 371 00:23:09.309 --> 00:23:12.170 her name's Tina, and gave me a bunch of information, 372 00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:17.390 went through it, vetted it, and Tina has provided this 373 00:23:17.950 --> 00:23:20.730 person who she says was walking with Jennifer the day 374 00:23:20.769 --> 00:23:23.130 that she disappeared. So basically what it sounds like is 375 00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:25.130 that Jennifer went to the seven 11 as she was 376 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:26.890 supposed to go pick up a candy bar. And I 377 00:23:26.930 --> 00:23:29.990 think a Pepsi. And then the clerk at the store 378 00:23:30.069 --> 00:23:33.029 said that he saw her turn left, which would basically 379 00:23:33.170 --> 00:23:35.630 back towards her home. But that was the last you 380 00:23:35.670 -->

00:23:38.569 saw her before she turned the corner. Well, it's to me, 381 00:23:39.009 --> 00:23:41.390 if you look where she, where she was living, it's 382 00:23:41.450 --> 00:23:44.210 entirely possible that she could have gone down the main drag. 383 00:23:44.690 --> 00:23:47.640 And there are, um, Anyway, this person was supposed to 384 00:23:47.660 --> 00:23:51.269 be walking with her and I, the timeline works. She 385 00:23:51.309 --> 00:23:53.529 could have left this seven 11 and walked and it 386 00:23:53.549 --> 00:23:55.430 would have been a matter of like 15 minutes to 387 00:23:55.470 --> 00:23:59.369 this location where they say she was disappeared from. So 388 00:23:59.430 --> 00:24:03.559 according to Tina, this person might've seen something, might've seen 389 00:24:03.579 --> 00:24:06.599 Jennifer be taken and was walking with her after the 390 00:24:06.619 --> 00:24:09.579 day she disappeared. So to me, it's a pretty, she 391 00:24:09.819 --> 00:24:13.349 may have some pretty important information. Um, I have made 392 00:24:13.789 --> 00:24:17.150 many attempts to verify these accounts, to speak with her. 393 00:24:17.170 --> 00:24:20.660 I reached out to her multiple times on Facebook. I 394 00:24:20.740 --> 00:24:22.980 also went to her house and left her a note 395 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:25.259 just saying, hey, if you would like to talk about this, 396 00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:29.269 I'm available, but never heard anything, which to me is 397 00:24:29.329 --> 00:24:32.130 not entirely surprising. If she saw something and is afraid 398 00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:34.509 to talk about it and it's still somebody in the community, 399 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:38.630 that makes sense. But I advise law enforcement, you know, 400 00:24:38.670 --> 00:24:41.349 as a private citizen to I only have so many options. 401 00:24:41.410 --> 00:24:44.839 I can't make her speak to me. Tina believes that 402 00:24:44.859 --> 00:24:49.799 this person, her name is Karina, that Karina said she 403 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:51.700 was walking with Jennifer when something happened. 404 00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:56.299 Rachel explained a bit about where Jennifer and Karina may 405 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.720 have been walking that day based on this theory. 406 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.539 They were walking somewhere else. 7-Eleven that Jennifer was walking 407 00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:06.740 to was right on the corner of Lemon Valley. 408 00:25:06.940 --> 00:25:07.700 And so. 409 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.220 If she went out and turned down Lemon Valley, according 410 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.920 to Tina, Karina, the one who was walking with her, 411 00:25:16.099 --> 00:25:20.400 left her presence around West Patrician Drive, which is by 412 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.490 the elementary school that Jennifer went to. And it's about, 413 00:25:23.509 --> 00:25:25.250 I'm looking at it right now, it's about a 17 414 00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:28.809 minute walk. So that

she said that they departed parted 415 00:25:28.849 --> 00:25:30.690 ways when she got to West Patricia and right in 416 00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:33.349 front of elementary school. But I, when I spoke to 417 00:25:33.369 --> 00:25:36.069 a lot of witnesses in the area, basically the kids 418 00:25:36.170 --> 00:25:38.750 from this little trailer park where Jennifer lived would hang 419 00:25:38.849 --> 00:25:41.009 out and like all these abandoned trailers and just sort 420 00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:44.779 of run rampant around the neighborhood. So, you know, I 421 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.859 can see it happening where if a friend stopped by 422 00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.420 and was like, Oh, let's, you know, want to go 423 00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:50.839 for a walk. They could have just gone, you know, 424 00:25:50.859 --> 00:25:53.519 a couple minutes away and thinking that they'd be right 425 00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:55.759 back and it wouldn't be a big deal. So that 426 00:25:55.779 --> 00:25:57.380 doesn't sound terribly surprising to me. 427 00:25:57.980 --> 00:26:00.859 When we first heard this new information, it was a 428 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:05.019 bit surprising. Because if Jennifer had wandered off to explore 429 00:26:05.059 --> 00:26:07.880 with a friend instead of heading straight home that day, 430 00:26:08.329 --> 00:26:11.529 then perhaps the radius of possible areas where she could 431 00:26:11.569 --> 00:26:16.049 have been taken would be larger and harder to pin down. However, 432 00:26:16.809 --> 00:26:20.890 Rachel assured us that either way, Jennifer was still most 433 00:26:20.970 --> 00:26:25.150 likely very close to home. she sent us this image 434 00:26:25.269 --> 00:26:28.529 of the proposed route Jennifer may have taken based on 435 00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:29.309 this theory. 436 00:26:29.630 --> 00:26:32.539 Well, so I'm looking at the radius of where, from 437 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:36.240 the 7-Eleven to West Patrician Drive, where apparently they parted ways, 438 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.619 and it's about, it's not even a mile, it's. 9 miles. 439 00:26:39.940 --> 00:26:42.359 So it does open up the radius, but it's not 440 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:43.180 too much. 441 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.970 Colleen also emphasized to us just how small of a 442 00:26:47.009 --> 00:26:51.369 town it was, a place where almost everyone knew one another. 443 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.920 Which makes it all the stranger that two children could 444 00:26:55.940 --> 00:26:59.460 have been abducted from here without anyone seeing a thing. 445 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:06.170 Tiny community. It's just a little valley, two trailer parks. 446 00:27:06.630 --> 00:27:10.450 And that was it. I mean, everybody knows pretty much everybody, 447 00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:11.150 you know. 448 00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:14.650 The other big lead that Rachel has been looking into 449 00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:17.910 was called in anonymously by a local defense attorney. 450 00:27:18.380 --> 00:27:20.619 Well, that one is one that really frustrates me because 451 00:27:20.660 --> 00:27:22.960 I've worked extensively on that tip and I haven't been 452 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.059 able to really get anywhere with it. But I did 453 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:28.900 reach out to, I think she was a former detective 454 00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:31.150 on the case, just to see if she had any 455 00:27:31.190 --> 00:27:34.809 information that might be viable. So she said that around 456 00:27:34.849 --> 00:27:40.109 the time of July 2018, a local attorney reached out 457 00:27:40.170 --> 00:27:43.539 to her and said to look into local sex offenders 458 00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:47.329 because a client of theirs might have been involved in sex. 459 00:27:47.970 --> 00:27:50.849 Jennifer's disappearance, which is a pretty good, I thought was 460 00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.529 a pretty good lead. The information that they gave me 461 00:27:53.630 --> 00:27:55.849 was that this person might have worked at a local 462 00:27:55.910 --> 00:27:58.740 automotive place that's right down the street from where Jennifer disappeared. 463 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.900 And they were apparently working there in 2018. I reached 464 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:06.279 out to the automotive facility that was in question to see, 465 00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:08.180 you know, talk about their employees and see if they 466 00:28:08.220 --> 00:28:10.700 could provide any information. They didn't have anyone who was 467 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.619 a sex offender that I was able to find online 468 00:28:12.700 --> 00:28:16.160 or locate. And then I reached out to a few 469 00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:18.599 other automotive places just to see if maybe they had 470 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.460 mixed up the automotive facility they worked at and still 471 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.470 wasn't able to find anything. So that kind of became 472 00:28:26.509 --> 00:28:30.509 a dead end. But it does seem like a very interesting, 473 00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:33.509 plausible lead, but I can't find any more information on that. 474 00:28:34.190 --> 00:28:38.130 Rachel says that law enforcement admitted this lead was not 475 00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:42.569 followed up on due to limited time and resources. Over 476 00:28:42.619 --> 00:28:45.490 the years of this cold case, there haven't been many 477 00:28:45.569 --> 00:28:49.650 glimmers of hope for the Martin family. At one point, 478 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:53.309 a girl from an Arizona shelter for runaways reported that 479 00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:57.809 another girl at the building resembled Jennifer. Hearing this, the 480 00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:01.390 Martin family's hopes were up, and they traveled to check 481 00:29:01.470 --> 00:29:02.170 out the lead. 482 00:29:02.630 --> 00:29:07.230 The sheriff's department here took up a collection of money 483 00:29:07.569 --> 00:29:13.690 so that we could drive down to

Arizona. It was Phoenix, actually, 484 00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:18.430 to meet this girl and see if it was her, 485 00:29:18.470 --> 00:29:21.400 and she was in a shelter there. And I had 486 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.599 lived in Phoenix for a couple of years, so I 487 00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:28.460 was able to drive us there and get us around, 488 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.539 you know. And no, it wasn't her at all. She 489 00:29:31.579 --> 00:29:36.230 was way too tall, and it just didn't even look 490 00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:37.630 like her. It wasn't her at all. 491 00:29:38.329 --> 00:29:41.440 Regardless of all the dead-end and dashed hopes that the 492 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.779 Martin family has been faced with over the years, when 493 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.759 we asked Colleen if there is anything she wishes law 494 00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:51.240 enforcement would have done differently, she only had words of 495 00:29:51.339 --> 00:29:53.500 gratitude for their time and effort. 496 00:29:54.089 --> 00:29:57.470 You know, they came out and just checked on us 497 00:29:57.829 --> 00:30:03.730 all the time. Bruce Roy was very young at that time, 498 00:30:04.049 --> 00:30:06.589 and he stayed on the case right up until the 499 00:30:06.609 --> 00:30:09.680 time he retired. I mean, they've stayed on it for 500 00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:12.359 all these years. You know, they put it away for 501 00:30:12.380 --> 00:30:14.259 a while, and they bring it out and work on 502 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.880 it again to see if they can get back. more information, 503 00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:22.000 and they've really been amazing. I have a lot of 504 00:30:22.059 --> 00:30:23.079 respect for them. 505 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:27.220 Colleen says that the community still remembers Jennifer when the 506 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.809 anniversary of her disappearance comes around. 507 00:30:30.349 --> 00:30:35.490 Yeah, actually every couple of years around June the 28th, 508 00:30:36.089 --> 00:30:38.609 they do an interview or they do a little spot 509 00:30:39.490 --> 00:30:42.400 on TV because I like for them to do that. 510 00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:47.549 just to let people know that she's still missing. Otherwise, people, 511 00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:50.650 they think that she's been found or it was found 512 00:30:50.690 --> 00:30:55.170 that she was run away or that she was murdered. Oh, God. 513 00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:00.279 Since she's never been found, I prefer not to believe 514 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.000 that part. And I get up every morning and say, 515 00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:08.009 good morning, I love you to her picture. And then 516 00:31:08.089 --> 00:31:10.529 maybe one of these days I can say, good morning, 517 00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:12.869 I love you to her. I would love that. 518 00:31:13.769 --> 00:31:17.509 At the time that she went missing, Jennifer was 4'6 519 00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:22.849 and 49 pounds. She was wearing a grayish-purple sweatshirt dress 520 00:31:23.089 --> 00:31:27.470 and no shoes. She's a Caucasian female with brown hair, 521 00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:34.099 blue eyes, and facial freckles. Jennifer's distinguishing characteristics include two 522 00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:37.819 small hairline scars on the underside of her chin and 523 00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:41.059 a star-shaped scar on the inside of her upper right arm. 524 00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:44.640 She has several white bumps on her back and a 525 00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:48.490 coffee stain type birthmark on her right hip. Her ears 526 00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:52.789 are pierced. Colleen lives in the same house and still 527 00:31:52.849 --> 00:31:55.609 holds on to the same phone number from all those 528 00:31:55.690 --> 00:32:00.319 years ago, hoping deep down that one day it might 529 00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:03.299 ring and Jennifer will be on the other end of 530 00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:07.000 the line. If you have any information that could help 531 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.150 this case, no matter how small, please call the Washoe 532 00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:13.630 County Sheriff's Office at 775-328-3001 or Secret Witness at 775-322-4900. 533 00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:16.849 Let's bring some justice to Jennifer and some closure to 534 00:32:16.930 --> 00:32:17.609 her loved ones.