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Hello, interwebs, and welcome to not really an
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episode of close -up, but a watch -along. Brand
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new format we're gonna try is an addendum to
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the Explained series. This time, I'm watching
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an episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion, the very
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last episode of the original run, because we
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embrace chaos here. I don't even know if we're
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doing subs or dubs today. Justin, what are we
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doing? Subs, subs, subs. We're doing subs. Okay,
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that's probably my preferred one anyway. So without
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any context, I'm jumping into the very last episode
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of the famously confusing finale to Neon Genesis
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Evangelion. It's my very first introduction to
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this show. I know the internet's going to call
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me a monster for making you do this, but... Yep.
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And based on Justin's Explains video, spoiler
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alert, I do plan to watch the show. But as my
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first ever taste of it, this is what I'm going
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to get. So this will be a watch -along. Click
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play when I click play and just... Enjoy me rambling
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through it. So, let me just see if subtitles
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are on. Japanese original audio is on. And we're
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going to click play in 3, 2, 1. Play. I don't
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know what a cruel angel is. Or a young boy. Is
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that Yggdrasil? The life tree. Okay. Like the
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music. It's a little funky. I don't know who
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that is. When a blue wind knocks on the door
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to your heart, you just gaze back at me and smile.
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Oh, so gently. So eager for something. You touch
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so softly. Those innocent eyes know nothing of
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the fate that awaits. Neither do I. That's talking
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to me. Right now. It's directly for you. But
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one day you will realize that upon your back...
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What's upon my back? You have wings? You can
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fly to the faraway future? I wish. That's like
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an iron spider suit. The cruel angel's thesis.
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One day you'll take off through a window. Of
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your overflowing pathos. Leads you to betray
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your memories. Oh yeah. Then embrace the heavens
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and shine bright. Become legend, young boy. I
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love how the lyrics don't rhyme whatsoever and
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it doesn't sound like a song at all. 2016, a
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year I remember well. Okay. Okay. Oh, you probably
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don't matter. It's fine. Oh, aren't we all afraid
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of being hated? Mm -hmm. Okay, merging to one
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now, taking a turn. Life is painful. And lonely.
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Alright, lots of scary imagery here. Like broken
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pottery in suitcases. I like how there's just
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random text cards for one word. Philosophical
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queries. I don't know. Why is that in text? Who
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knows? Who's asking these questions? Yeah. Yeah,
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I don't like being lonely either. The show's
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so relatable. Nothing's wrong with running away
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from hurt and pain. This is a very fast -paced
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episode. Already making no sense. Cutting very
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fast. Lots of rapid -fire dialogue. Is that a
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shower? Sandbox. It's a metaphor for the world
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stepping over the threshold. I don't know if
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these are flashbacks to the rest of the season.
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With context I don't have. This is all just brand
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new imagery. Some of them are new. Black and
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white imagery. Bloody rags. Real images apparently
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interspersed with anime. Why? Okay, at this point,
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the main character's just complaining a lot.
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You've just described the whole series. This
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entire time, he's just complaining about worthiness.
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Yeah, I'm worthless. Wow, first time I've seen
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a robot in this show so far. Yeah, because that's
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probably your job. My life's value is zero. That's
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why I hate myself. Uh -huh. Oh, now who hates
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him now? Is this just his inner thoughts? Wow,
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everybody hates him. Sounds like the internet.
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About the show or about the main character? About
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him specifically. Oh, so it is just in his head.
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Fan. He's got fans. No, he doesn't. Lots of color
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flashing on his face. Random expressions interspersed
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in there. The Eevee will dictate who you are.
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Yeah, but it clearly is. He just said that I'm
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worthless and it was nobody and nothing special
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without the Eevee. And the guy's like, your identity
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will be defined by the evil. Like, yes, he just
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said that. Okay, he's thinking about some girl.
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Oh, and that was all before the title card? Yeah.
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It's about to get normal now, right? No. Yeah.
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You wish. Do you feel like you're understanding
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anything? I understand he's feeling worthless
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and complains a lot about it. And some people
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are trying to make him feel a bit better. And
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others are like... Well, actually, I don't know
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if they are tearing him down. It's going fast.
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Bloody doll. Head torn off. Okay, so I guess
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we're in this girl's head now. Creepy girl. Creepy
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little boy. Ghost child. Crying ghost children.
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Yeah, I think that's why anyone does anything.
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They try to be valuable. Or at least content
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with what you're doing. Nope, that's a bunch
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of clones. Okay. Okay, he's looking at Funhaus
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mirror versions of himself. Two -dimensional
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drawings, still. Very flashing imagery with occasionally
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emotionally disturbing stuff sprinkled in there.
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Like screaming faces. And who is this girl in
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the suit? I don't know. Nobody understands me.
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Are you stupid or something? So she's not the
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nice one then? I love how he figured that out.
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But also, I think this guy deserves it, so. Yeah.
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Somewhat, yeah. Mm -hmm. All right, so they're
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in very basic drawing territory right now. It's
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literally just zooming out on a still image.
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A blank world with no one in it. So they could
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save budget based on what Justin's told me about
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this episode. So the free world's in black and
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white. Which is probably emblematic of something.
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Like it's free. But basic. There's no color.
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It's all too vague is what they said. Completely
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undefined. See, I'm getting it before they get
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it. What should he do? Okay. He
just got his
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x -axis. Oh, we're doing a side -scroller. I
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like the sound effects. For no reason at all.
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Okay, so he can change the orientation of the
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world. So is he doing this? Is this in his mind?
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Is this reality? All of the above? All at once.
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So this is happening. It's not just metaphor.
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That is reality. Is it? It just said that is
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reality. So he's got a little more definition
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to him now. What is asking these questions in
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purely text form? Something that cannot communicate?
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Wacky inflatable arm tube and... That's a selfish
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way to look at things the whole world is just
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me A Wilson handprint on the wall It was all
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a dream So she does consider them friends and
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the face angry. Well, that took a turn. Now,
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you think this is pretty normal, right? It seems
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normal. Seems normal, perhaps. Do we ever see
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his parents faces normally? Not very often, actually.
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I mean, it's usually not hidden like that, but.
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That's a really beautiful view of a hydro line.
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It's very detailed. I appreciate it. Alright,
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so then just going to school flies in my expectations
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of what this series is. Unless it's not this
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at all. Maybe it's more dream. This is giving
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pilot energy. Yeah, yeah, it is. Pilot of a TV
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show energy. Oh, so is this a scene from the
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pilot? Not even close. So much sexual perversion
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already. That's, yeah. You know what? At least
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I understand this. I know what this is about.
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That's kind of the point. It's her. The girl
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from his dreams. The music is easy listening.
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It's casual. Once again, it's given like starter
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town of a Pokemon game energy. Pilot episode
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of a TV show. First day of school. I'm getting
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reboot. Oh, you're not far off. And the whole
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animation style's changed again. Okay, it's another
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possible world. And you thought it was going
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to be normal again. Okay, so multiverse. The
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real world might not be so bad, but I do hate
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myself. Come on. Okay, all these people are just
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saying to me that he's still the problem. Yeah,
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the world sucks and you suck because you suck.
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Change your attitude. Change your attitude. You'll
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feel better. Accept more possibilities. That's
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what I'm getting out of this. Change perspective.
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Who are all these people? I do not know. That
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guy in the same pose as five seconds ago. That's
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a very common opinion. I like that bit of wisdom.
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This is what we call negative self -talk. Oh,
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he's taking a turn. Me, I want to be myself,
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but you hate yourself. It's okay. Okay. Is this
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a metaphor for the audience saying finally? Yes,
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he finally stood up from his depression chair.
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Congratulations. His alarm clock? To father,
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thank you. To mother, goodbye. And to all the
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children, congratulations. What? There you go.
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That's the end. There's still credits. There's
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still credits. An upside -down shadow rotating
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next to the moon like it's a moon of the moon.
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Underwater changing the tides. Different moon
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shapes are in the white haze here. People are
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really disappointed because the Netflix version
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of the series replaced the original. End theme
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because they didn't have the rights for it. Oh.
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Is the theme more upbeat than this? Yeah. Oh,
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so this version is making it depressing, but
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it was more upbeat before. Yeah. Okay, well,
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my first instinct is to say that was terrible,
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but there's a lot of good in there. It's peak...
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It's peak anime. That's, uh, that's peak Evangelion?
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Uh, some people think so, yes. Huh. Most people
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sound pretentious. Uh, yes. And, uh, I would
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say I don't want to be friends with them, but
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I am. Already. So I guess I have to be pretentious
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as well. Listen, it's super pretentious, but
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then it took them three tries to explain the
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same thing. Yeah, there's a lot that I could
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understand
from that. Some interesting philosophical
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quotes in there about your reality basically
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being what you make of it. If you... Hate yourself
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and act like the world's a depressing place.
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Then you're going to hate yourself and it'll
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be a depressing place to live in. Change your
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attitude, change your perspective, redraw the
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picture. See the form in your mind and take it.
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Yeah, you're picking up some things for sure.
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He is a very frustrating protagonist. Yeah, you
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got that. 100%. He's incredibly annoying sometimes.
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I don't know if I have to assume that's by design.
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Because every other character's reacting to him
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like I am, basically. They're all just as frustrated
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by his incessant self -hatred. Which would be
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fine, mind the record. I'm not an advocate of
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tearing down People with poor mental health.
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But also in this guy's every other word is I
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hate myself. And... Okay. I understand that.
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You can... You can be depressed. But my patience
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only goes so far with you. Tell me something
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else about yourself. I understand that one thing.
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But I'm starting to think you don't have much
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of a personality, Shinji, besides... Your self
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-doubts and anxieties and just inner loathing.
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It's sad because I could see if you watched the
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entire show, to get to hear you be saying the
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same thing. That's his whole personality. Okay.
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And I will get to the rest of Neon Genesis. including
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the rebuild movies at justin's intense recommendation
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whenever i get to them probably sometime this
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year this episode probably won't release until
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i'm finished the show so that could be a year
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from now who knows but uh i got my first taste
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of it are you confused yet I am confused, but
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also I understand, I think I understand some
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things, which means I probably don't understand
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anything. Now, I'm just saying, this is the very
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end of the show. This was the last note to round
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off the story. I think what I understand based
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on this is, once again, some of the philosophies
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that it's trying to espouse here. I understand
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what it's saying about its main character. I
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don't understand the context in which it's all
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happening. Or why this kid's on LSD. But, yes,
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I think I can understand it roughly as a piece
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of art on its own merits without really knowing
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any of the why behind it. I'm the text card.
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I'm the one who's asking all the... Important
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questions for context clues. Hmm. I don't even
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know if he can see the text because the questions
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weren't necessarily answered right after they
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were posed. But they were about what I was thinking
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at the time they popped up. So I think I'm the
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text card. That's interesting. I don't I don't
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know who the text card actually is. The text
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card is 1990s version of Internet chat rooms
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asking questions. Assuming the creator thought
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during a watch along, if I was at a computer
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and typing these exact questions. Yes. What would
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I ask at these exact moments? That could be for
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all I know. So the meta narrative is. introducing
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the audience into it and not really answering
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the questions either and yeah that's my take
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on on that i'm gonna say this episode is um worth
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a watch i can't quite get it to pretty darn good
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Even though I do appreciate a lot of the artistry
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behind it, I think the animation style is really
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cool. Especially in the scenes on their way to
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school. I like the detail, even the hydropoles.
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Gorgeous, just instills. The characters have
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very expressive movements. I especially like
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the fluidity of the, you know, murder. sketch
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thing outline kind of flowing in the in the ether
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of it white that was pretty interesting stuff
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so it really moves beautifully the shading and
00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:51.539
some of the some of the scenes as well as he's
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getting more definition varying
levels of from
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sketch to fully realized world in there i can't
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.920
decide if the editing is good or bad because
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It's certainly confusing, but also I think that's
00:31:08.910 --> 00:31:11.490
an intentional choice and they're trying to confuse
00:31:11.490 --> 00:31:13.990
me with a lot of rapid fire images and dialogue
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that are going faster than I can really comprehend
00:31:17.309 --> 00:31:21.650
it, especially with no context. And yes, I'm
00:31:21.650 --> 00:31:23.809
talking through it. That doesn't help, but it's
00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:28.690
also very, very quick. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very
00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:32.549
lightning fast paced. They're very repetitive.
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But maybe that's part of the point. Because it's
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so lightning fast, you need to repeat yourself
00:31:38.769 --> 00:31:42.950
so people are still on board. Because this is
00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:46.970
still 1990s TV. And I don't know if Japanese
00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:50.150
TV is the same way as Western TV, but Western
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TV has always had this assumption up until this
00:31:52.269 --> 00:31:54.069
day that people aren't paying full attention
00:31:54.069 --> 00:32:02.119
at any given moment. So, even they want... The
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.380
illusion of a fast -paced show whilst at the
00:32:04.380 --> 00:32:07.980
same time repeating themselves for the people
00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:12.099
who weren't listening two minutes ago. Got distracted
00:32:12.099 --> 00:32:15.160
by pogs or whatever they were doing in the 90s,
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:25.119
I don't know. Yeah. So, you said that you didn't
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.900
understand the context of what is happening?
00:32:29.059 --> 00:32:31.599
Yes. And I'll give you some context. Neither
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.059
does the audience. Not really. Even if you watch
00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:38.980
the whole thing, then all of a sudden you're
00:32:38.980 --> 00:32:42.880
thrown into this and you go, what in the world
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:47.579
is going on? I see. And that was the end of the
00:32:47.579 --> 00:32:54.380
show. So there's no build up to this? No. There's
00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.509
something that's happening. And then all of a
00:32:56.509 --> 00:33:01.049
sudden this is happening and you're like, what
00:33:01.049 --> 00:33:05.930
is going on? That's pretty much it. Got it. So
00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:09.369
when this came out and it was super, super confusing,
00:33:09.470 --> 00:33:11.289
they're like, listen, listen, we're going to
00:33:11.289 --> 00:33:14.769
make a whole movie that runs in parallel with
00:33:14.769 --> 00:33:22.730
this episode to show you what happened. And even
00:33:22.730 --> 00:33:26.740
when you watch that movie, you still go. I don't
00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:33.380
know if I get it. Got it. Got it. So that's why
00:33:33.380 --> 00:33:36.460
I'm still not convinced to give it pretty darn
00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:39.799
good, even though I think it is technically well
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.160
-made. I just can't decide if it's an illusion
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.319
of well -made content or because it presents
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.839
itself as so pretentious that it's trying to
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.799
make me feel dumb like I'm missing something
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.740
and it's such high art. It's like, oh, you peasant,
00:33:55.779 --> 00:33:58.039
you didn't understand how intellectual this was
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.900
because of the way we presented it. So, yes,
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.740
of course, you're going to give it a bad rating.
00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:10.300
Or if it is just exactly as I see it. Very nicely
00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:14.659
animated, but very repetitive and too quickly
00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:20.280
paced. And almost entirely nonsensical. With
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.500
most of the philosophies I'm gathering, basically,
00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:26.219
that were just... espoused to me through exposition
00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:30.960
that I happened to glean while I was rambling
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:33.599
on. I don't know if I'm seeing much under the
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:38.239
surface here. I'm just taking in a lot of the
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:44.679
visual stimuli for what it's worth. Yeah. So
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.579
that's why I'll say it's worth a watch. It's
00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:52.260
intriguing. It is art. I just can't vouch for
00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:56.480
it being good art. This is why people are like,
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.320
it's either, when it comes to Neon Genesis, people
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.780
are like, it's either the best anime ever, or
00:35:01.780 --> 00:35:07.500
it's terrible. Got it. So, I look forward to
00:35:07.500 --> 00:35:11.639
putting this into a greater context. And still
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.760
being confused. And still being incredibly confused.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.179
Yeah. Okay, where can we find you? You can find
00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:23.179
me on Instagram at jchurchtpm. You can find me
00:35:23.179 --> 00:35:25.739
on Instagram at ThoughtPlaneMedia. We're actually
00:35:25.739 --> 00:35:29.059
updating that more often this year. Yay. And
00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:32.400
we're doing constant content over on ThoughtPlane
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.940
.ca as well. Look up Head to Head. Look up other
00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.699
episodes of Close Up. What have you. Articles.
00:35:39.699 --> 00:35:42.420
Movie reviews. We got a lot on there. Big back
00:35:42.420 --> 00:35:47.280
catalog. So go check that out. All right. Till
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:55.099
next time. I am amazed at how much you actually
00:35:55.099 --> 00:35:55.840
pulled out of that.