Full Transcript for Hellraiser: Hellseeker (2002) - The Return of Kirsty Cotton?!

about that, but it was going to be. 79 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:25.740 Yikes, yeah, it's going to be something controversial. 80 00:03:25.979 --> 00:03:29.479 Yes, exactly. Of course it is. But, you know, that's 81 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.039 going to be... You don't know what you're going to be. 82 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:33.939 I have to dress up twice, man. 83 00:03:33.979 --> 00:03:35.120 So I'm going to. 84 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:41.069 Uh the united states of america on friday. 85 00:03:40.569 --> 00:03:43.449 Are you gonna walk over the border and come see me. 86 00:03:43.469 --> 00:03:45.289 That's in like three days from now well i would 87 00:03:45.349 --> 00:03:47.530 only for i'm gonna be thousands of miles away from 88 00:03:47.550 --> 00:03:50.629 the border so that's gonna be pretty hard aren't you 89 00:03:50.830 --> 00:03:51.389 are you going. 90 00:03:51.229 --> 00:03:52.569 To flow rider. 91 00:03:52.250 --> 00:03:56.469 Yeah i am so my plan is when i get 92 00:03:56.500 --> 00:03:59.520 there to go to a spirit halloween or something like 93 00:03:59.539 --> 00:04:02.110 that and see can i get something because So for 94 00:04:02.150 --> 00:04:04.949 as garbage as people listening from the States or Canada 95 00:04:04.969 --> 00:04:08.699 or anywhere might think like, oh, Spirit Halloween or Spencer's 96 00:04:09.259 --> 00:04:11.719 or whatever it is. Like I know you guys probably 97 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.699 treat that as like garbage that shows up every Halloween. 98 00:04:14.979 --> 00:04:18.040 But like to me, coming from Ireland, dude, you have 99 00:04:18.420 --> 00:04:23.240 no idea how bad the like Halloween store situation is here. 100 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.639 I think we have like one and it's terrible. 101 00:04:25.899 --> 00:04:26.939 Do you have a party city? 102 00:04:27.730 --> 00:04:30.050 No, we did have at one point and then they 103 00:04:30.069 --> 00:04:31.269 got taken over by another company. 104 00:04:31.310 --> 00:04:31.449 So. 105 00:04:32.129 --> 00:04:34.269 We have our own version. This year is the first 106 00:04:34.290 --> 00:04:35.470 year I've really seen it happen. 107 00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:36.329 A hearty city? 108 00:04:36.610 --> 00:04:39.600 Yeah, like we have our own version now called Halloween HQ. 109 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.620 And it's basically like some sort of like Timu, like 110 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.689 Chinese knockoff of Spirit Halloween. Even like it's all orange 111 00:04:47.730 --> 00:04:50.709 like Spirit Halloween and the logo looks the same. And 112 00:04:50.769 --> 00:04:53.250 it's like, you know, you can go into Spirit and 113 00:04:53.269 --> 00:04:57.199 you can buy actual like merchant, like actual costumes and actual, 114 00:04:57.220 --> 00:04:59.759 like if you wanted like, I don't know, a Ghostface costume, 115 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.879 you can get like the officially licensed Ghostface costume. Well, 116 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:04.879 this place you can go in and you can get 117 00:05:04.899 --> 00:05:08.759 the weird like Indian knockoff of Ghostface where he doesn't 118 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:09.459 look quite right. 119 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:11.759 Ghostface. 120 00:05:11.939 --> 00:05:13.720 Yeah, it's one of those like, and like you can 121 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.060 see through the robe and it's like, but it's still 122 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.529 like 70, 80 euros. And I'm like, wow, you're. 123 00:05:19.389 --> 00:05:20.889 Really ripping us off. Yeah, I was telling you off air, 124 00:05:20.930 --> 00:05:24.009 me and Billy's costumes were dumb and dumber for our 125 00:05:24.029 --> 00:05:28.500 Halloween special on Strange Brewing. it was $ 241 for both costumes. 126 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:32.100 And it's like, that's like, like I said, Billy's like, 127 00:05:32.139 --> 00:05:33.819 I have to wear this. I'm 40. Like, this is 128 00:05:33.860 --> 00:05:35.759 my costume every year, even though I'm going to have 129 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.939 the other costume. He's just going to be, he's just 130 00:05:40.980 --> 00:05:44.120 going to be, what's his, uh, Jim Carrey's character. 131 00:05:44.139 --> 00:05:45.600 It's just going to be dumber. 132 00:05:45.620 --> 00:05:51.959 Yeah, exactly. There's no dumb, uh, Lloyd, Lloyd Christmas. Yeah. 133 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.000 i told him to watch it because i was like 134 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.439 man we have to like try to keep to their 135 00:05:56.459 --> 00:05:59.769 like stupidity on this show though because it's but it 136 00:05:59.790 --> 00:06:01.569 should be fun for all the fans it was billy's 137 00:06:01.629 --> 00:06:03.790 idea so but and then it's like i got a 138 00:06:03.829 --> 00:06:05.490 buck and dough i gotta go to i guess you 139 00:06:05.509 --> 00:06:08.839 call it a stag and dough no just a stag 140 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:11.779 just to me a stag is where all these weird 141 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:14.420 guys like rent a porn movie and watch it together 142 00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:16.870 that's a stag party that's a bit weird as well 143 00:06:16.889 --> 00:06:19.699 but That's where the stag party is. I'm pretty sure 144 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:20.259 if you Google stag party. 145 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.930 You probably have like a cooler version over here. It's 146 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.930 basically just meet all your friends and get extremely drunk 147 00:06:26.990 --> 00:06:28.810 and do a little dumb shit and be annoying. 148 00:06:29.569 --> 00:06:31.730 They'll have like games and stuff like that. So it 149 00:06:31.769 --> 00:06:33.779 was hard trying to find a costume, but that even 150 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.680 was expensive. So we just like settled with like knight 151 00:06:36.740 --> 00:06:38.860 and maiden and I was going to be an executioner. 152 00:06:38.899 --> 00:06:39.839 Chelsea wasn't a fan. 153 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:41.300 Oh wait, Chelsea's going as

well. 154 00:06:41.850 --> 00:06:42.110 Yes. 155 00:06:42.250 --> 00:06:43.649 So we're going as a couple. So that's why it 156 00:06:43.670 --> 00:06:45.230 was so hard to figure out. Or I just would 157 00:06:45.269 --> 00:06:46.649 have been like a penis or something. 158 00:06:46.790 --> 00:06:48.810 Oh, is that like a dumb thing then? So like here, 159 00:06:48.980 --> 00:06:52.060 for example, when you have the stag, it's only men 160 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:53.860 and the men all go away somewhere. 161 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:55.620 That's the gay one I'm talking about, man. When you're 162 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.160 sitting around watching porn together. 163 00:06:57.180 --> 00:06:58.639 You mean I've been going to the gay ones all 164 00:06:58.680 --> 00:06:59.120 this time? 165 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.079 Yeah. So it's like people just, you get it like you, I, 166 00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:05.120 you know, paid, it was like 10 bucks a ticket. 167 00:07:05.139 --> 00:07:07.209 You get in, you have a raffle thing and then 168 00:07:07.230 --> 00:07:09.189 you have like, it will be fun because it's I've 169 00:07:09.329 --> 00:07:12.370 always wanted to dress up and go to a party 170 00:07:12.470 --> 00:07:13.430 and have a couple of drinks. 171 00:07:13.490 --> 00:07:13.709 Right. 172 00:07:13.810 --> 00:07:17.029 And the baby is going to be away where someone 173 00:07:17.069 --> 00:07:18.970 is taking care of the baby. So we got all 174 00:07:19.009 --> 00:07:22.430 night to ourselves, even though we have to draw, like, 175 00:07:22.449 --> 00:07:24.069 I'm going to make Chelsea drive so I can drink 176 00:07:24.089 --> 00:07:26.430 a little more, but it's just, it's going to be fun. 177 00:07:26.509 --> 00:07:28.870 It's so hard to fucking forget a costume. We're like, ah, 178 00:07:28.889 --> 00:07:32.129 you know, Gomez and like Mortish. We're trying to go 179 00:07:32.149 --> 00:07:34.040 through those. So let's just be like something like a 180 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:35.060 maiden in a night. 181 00:07:35.069 --> 00:07:38.579 You should have been, um, Hugsley and Wednesday. 182 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:42.819 That would have actually kind of, that actually would have 183 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.120 been a good idea because I'm a little pugsly. 184 00:07:45.189 --> 00:07:46.370 That would have been a race where you could have 185 00:07:46.410 --> 00:07:48.529 been pubert. You could have brought the kid and made 186 00:07:48.550 --> 00:07:50.269 the kid pubert with the little mustache. 187 00:07:50.290 --> 00:07:53.329 Is that its name? When are we covering those movies? 188 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:54.170 That's what we should have done. 189 00:07:54.089 --> 00:07:55.410 For this Halloween. I know, that would have been a 190 00:07:55.410 --> 00:07:56.769 really good Halloween special. 191 00:07:57.569 --> 00:07:58.269 So funny. 192 00:07:58.290 --> 00:08:00.569 We might do a post Halloween because like I love 193 00:08:00.589 --> 00:08:03.100 them movies so much. Anyway, we're not here to talk 194 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:04.310 about that. People are going to be like, what's wrong 195 00:08:04.329 --> 00:08:05.699 with the two of you? You have like brain damage. 196 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:08.439 Well, it's almost Halloween. That's why. And I haven't even 197 00:08:08.459 --> 00:08:11.269 like watched many things. thing i've been watching the uh 198 00:08:11.329 --> 00:08:12.550 crystal lake show. 199 00:08:12.769 --> 00:08:15.269 I have not seen any of it so before we 200 00:08:15.290 --> 00:08:17.550 get into this movie actually is yeah how do you 201 00:08:17.569 --> 00:08:19.639 because you're a big friday the 13th guy so how 202 00:08:19.660 --> 00:08:20.379 do you feel about. 203 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.519 It so far it's decent it's pretty good so far 204 00:08:25.220 --> 00:08:27.300 you're gonna laugh it just it doesn't ruin it but 205 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:31.870 they make like jason some like innocent little mama's boy 206 00:08:31.889 --> 00:08:34.669 he's i seen a picture of. 207 00:08:34.629 --> 00:08:37.820 Him and he was in like a little he's in 208 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.679 like his little shirt with his little coveralls thing and all. 209 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.940 And I was like, Whoa, it's weird. 210 00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:47.220 But I, I'm trying to be like, well, like the realistically, 211 00:08:47.299 --> 00:08:49.940 he was a big mama's boy, right? That's the whole idea. 212 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.519 But just the way they had him where it's like, Jason, 213 00:08:52.539 --> 00:08:54.950 it's okay. You're just a normal boy. You know, it's just, 214 00:08:55.350 --> 00:08:57.710 and he's like, okay, love you, mommy. Like it was 215 00:08:57.750 --> 00:09:00.169 just very, I wanted him to be more like, I'm 216 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:01.710 not going to do an impression, but you know what 217 00:09:01.730 --> 00:09:01.889 I mean? 218 00:09:01.929 --> 00:09:04.429 How, how, um, how far into the season, how many 219 00:09:04.470 --> 00:09:05.070 episodes is there? 220 00:09:05.850 --> 00:09:06.210 I don't know. 221 00:09:06.570 --> 00:09:09.629 I can't remember, but I'm like three, four episodes in maybe. 222 00:09:09.990 --> 00:09:12.909 Do you have any idea how far the final episode 223 00:09:12.950 --> 00:09:14.509 takes us into the storyline? 224 00:09:14.529 --> 00:09:15.490 I have no idea. 225 00:09:15.509 --> 00:09:18.129 Like is he a kid through the whole of our season? 226 00:09:18.889 --> 00:09:21.909 Well, there was, which is weird. There was like, it's 227 00:09:21.929 --> 00:09:23.289 not going to ruin it anyway, but there was like 228 00:09:23.850 --> 00:09:26.610 a flash cut where these like kids are like in, 229 00:09:27.289 --> 00:09:29.370 in like a car, you know, like make out lane 230 00:09:29.409 --> 00:09:31.309 or after a party or something like that. And you 231 00:09:31.389 --> 00:09:34.110 see like the lightning go

off and you see like, 232 00:09:34.649 --> 00:09:36.809 jason with looking like one of those uh you know 233 00:09:36.830 --> 00:09:40.080 the melon heads that the cryptid it's just like you 234 00:09:40.100 --> 00:09:42.500 see like a and it's just like him staying there 235 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:44.679 as a teenage boy and i was like what made 236 00:09:44.740 --> 00:09:48.980 him grow so fast but then there's like implication there's 237 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.730 something about like that who he really is and what 238 00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:55.909 his mom was involved in and she's running from some 239 00:09:55.990 --> 00:09:58.590 people so it's like is he some sort of like 240 00:09:58.690 --> 00:10:01.669 experiment and and that's where they're gonna take it which 241 00:10:01.690 --> 00:10:04.029 i hope they don't go too weird with it but 242 00:10:04.309 --> 00:10:07.110 i'm gonna advocate next we do a freddy krueger show 243 00:10:07.129 --> 00:10:09.700 and i'm right on the street and then we figure 244 00:10:09.779 --> 00:10:12.139 out his backstory of how he molests all the children 245 00:10:12.419 --> 00:10:15.080 he's like Cause this is so much more darker, right? 246 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.720 He's just a child. 247 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.340 I have a sneaking suspicion. If they do a show 248 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:21.360 of him, that won't be the topic. 249 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:24.340 They'll make him the good guy. 250 00:10:24.419 --> 00:10:28.100 Just like they did like anything, but do that. And 251 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.840 he read them. I can't imagine. They'll be like, yeah, 252 00:10:31.899 --> 00:10:33.259 he's Jimmy Savile running. 253 00:10:33.700 --> 00:10:35.500 That's what, uh, you know, Disney did too. It's like 254 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:38.090 Cruella de Vil. She like murdered dogs for their, like 255 00:10:38.509 --> 00:10:41.090 their fur or whatever. Um, but you know, when she 256 00:10:41.129 --> 00:10:43.049 was younger, she had a tough time and she was 257 00:10:43.090 --> 00:10:44.370 the good guy. You know what I mean? That's how 258 00:10:44.389 --> 00:10:46.000 they kind of portrayed that film. And I was like, 259 00:10:46.019 --> 00:10:46.269 that's it. 260 00:10:46.539 --> 00:10:47.580 I used to hate her so much. 261 00:10:48.539 --> 00:10:48.740 Yeah. 262 00:10:48.779 --> 00:10:49.360 She's evil. 263 00:10:49.460 --> 00:10:49.700 Right. 264 00:10:49.820 --> 00:10:52.679 And then they're like, we have to make her, you know, 265 00:10:52.700 --> 00:10:55.500 we have to villainize the heroes and hero and eyes, 266 00:10:55.539 --> 00:10:55.919 the villains. 267 00:10:55.990 --> 00:10:58.730 If that's a word, but it sounds about right. 268 00:10:59.509 --> 00:11:01.409 Yeah. I am going to make pinhead the good guy. 269 00:11:01.629 --> 00:11:02.309 Technically maybe. 270 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.070 Well yeah but he's not the good guy in this 271 00:11:05.139 --> 00:11:09.090 one again so the movie we're talking about is Hellraiser 272 00:11:09.169 --> 00:11:13.350 Hellseeker from the year 2000 directed by Rick Boda and 273 00:11:13.389 --> 00:11:17.129 written by Carol Dupree and Tim Day it is the 274 00:11:17.269 --> 00:11:20.659 sixth film in the series and features the return of 275 00:11:21.179 --> 00:11:25.039 our heroine whatever you want to call her Kirstie Cotton. 276 00:11:25.539 --> 00:11:26.980 I didn't even notice that was her till the end 277 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.360 of the movie. 278 00:11:27.820 --> 00:11:30.190 Yeah they don't really do a great job of like 279 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:31.929 kind of and I think some of that was like 280 00:11:32.769 --> 00:11:34.669 The idea to bring her back was like, oh, let's 281 00:11:34.710 --> 00:11:36.470 like bring it all full circle and do this big 282 00:11:36.529 --> 00:11:39.509 cool like, you know, Laurie Strode meets Michael again after 283 00:11:39.529 --> 00:11:41.600 all this time. And then what happened was I think 284 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.179 the studio got cold feet and went, are we alienating 285 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.860 people to pick this up on video if they haven't 286 00:11:48.899 --> 00:11:52.139 seen the previous Hellraisers? So then they kind of started 287 00:11:52.179 --> 00:11:53.860 to take things back out and they were like, maybe 288 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:56.210 we'll just make her not really that important kind of ish. 289 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.169 I remember this. I remember this cover. I remember seeing 290 00:12:01.210 --> 00:12:05.269 this at like a, whatever video store, not like a blockbuster, 291 00:12:05.289 --> 00:12:08.110 but when there's like a convenience store type ones and it's, 292 00:12:08.289 --> 00:12:10.379 I just thought it's, it is like, it's such a 293 00:12:10.460 --> 00:12:13.019 simple cover, but it gets you right. And I find 294 00:12:13.059 --> 00:12:14.820 like a lot of these, the covers are so much 295 00:12:14.899 --> 00:12:17.740 cooler than what the actual movie is. And I know 296 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:19.019 people are going to hate on that. 297 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:20.240 That's gotta be a scale back then though. 298 00:12:21.269 --> 00:12:23.580 I know I've explained that one movie millions of times, 299 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.100 but it's like, they make the cover so cool. And 300 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:29.019 then it's like, the movie is okay. Like I'm not 301 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:33.059 totally pooping on it, but like, I don't know. There's just, 302 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.220 I want for something like this too, with bringing her back. 303 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.360 And I, it would have been just nice if it 304 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:42.149 was more like cinematic, like more money thrown at it, 305 00:12:42.259 --> 00:12:44.059 but they were just doing it to put it out 306 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:48.379 on VHS or, you know, DVD. It's like, I don't know. 307 00:12:48.559 -->

00:12:50.539 I want more for my pinhead, you know? 308 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.740 Yeah, and I think some of it as well came 309 00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:56.360 from like the rights timing out. So I think a 310 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.970 lot of times what used to happen was the pressure 311 00:12:59.009 --> 00:13:01.009 would be on with, okay, if we don't make a 312 00:13:01.029 --> 00:13:03.470 movie within the next like 12 months, we're going to 313 00:13:03.490 --> 00:13:06.350 lose the rights. So let's just fast track something for 314 00:13:06.370 --> 00:13:09.409 a million dollars and sure, whatever way it turns out, 315 00:13:09.470 --> 00:13:11.629 at least we'll retain the rights. It'll be cheaper than 316 00:13:11.669 --> 00:13:13.039 losing them and trying to buy them back. 317 00:13:14.259 --> 00:13:16.129 That's what I find too. And it's like, I can 318 00:13:16.190 --> 00:13:18.929 go through all the whatever Nightmare on Elm Street or 319 00:13:18.970 --> 00:13:20.809 even all the Friday the 13th and even some of 320 00:13:20.889 --> 00:13:22.990 most of the like leprechaun, maybe other than the one 321 00:13:23.009 --> 00:13:26.629 where he goes to space. And it like looks like a, yes, 322 00:13:26.649 --> 00:13:28.580 it's so funny when he grows big. You guys can 323 00:13:28.820 --> 00:13:29.620 listen to. 324 00:13:29.500 --> 00:13:31.220 Our episodes on there. It's one of the worst. 325 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.360 We need to watch along. It's on Rumble actually. If 326 00:13:34.379 --> 00:13:36.299 you guys want it for free, it is on our Patreons. 327 00:13:36.340 --> 00:13:37.820 If you want to support that, that'd be great. But 328 00:13:37.860 --> 00:13:40.419 it's somewhere on Rumble. Say with Back to the Hood. 329 00:13:40.750 --> 00:13:43.649 Or is it so bad? Like that number four is 330 00:13:43.789 --> 00:13:46.149 one of the worst movies I think I've ever sat through. 331 00:13:46.750 --> 00:13:49.889 But it's like that with the, like after like essentially, 332 00:13:50.029 --> 00:13:53.419 I guess three that like cinematic type look and it 333 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.019 downgraded to what looked like a television show, like the 334 00:13:57.059 --> 00:13:59.059 way they film it, even this one, it just looks 335 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:01.960 like a nineties television show. It doesn't look like it's 336 00:14:02.059 --> 00:14:04.720 filmed like a movie, right? It looks like it's filmed 337 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:05.879 like a TV show. 338 00:14:06.950 --> 00:14:10.990 I did write down somewhere here that it was weird that... 339 00:14:10.710 --> 00:14:17.629 Let me see, where is it? It was somewhere. I 340 00:14:17.649 --> 00:14:21.000 can't remember exactly. I wrote it down somewhere, but... Oh, yeah, 341 00:14:21.019 --> 00:14:22.500 I was like, I felt like some of the shots 342 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.820 in this movie, actually, a lot of the shots in 343 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.919 this movie look like a daytime movie. Yeah, that's what 344 00:14:27.940 --> 00:14:29.019 I don't like about it. It's like one of those 345 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.019 lifetime sort of like, I was like, oh, that's really weird. 346 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.769 There's a part where he's like outside, I think, and 347 00:14:34.789 --> 00:14:38.559 he's like crossing the street. And it's so jarring and bizarre. 348 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:40.879 I'm like, wow, that looks like someone recorded that on 349 00:14:40.899 --> 00:14:42.679 like a really bad digital camera. 350 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:48.080 Well, even when the one dude caps himself and it 351 00:14:48.139 --> 00:14:51.700 looks like really crappy thrown together CGI where it's just like, 352 00:14:52.419 --> 00:14:54.539 it looks like a computer did it where it's like, oh, 353 00:14:54.620 --> 00:14:57.899 and then he falls down all like weird. And I 354 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.759 was like, well, man, I guess I want to like 355 00:15:00.779 --> 00:15:02.809 these movies because I like Doug Bradley because I like 356 00:15:02.889 --> 00:15:06.120 the idea of Pinhead and the concept of it. But 357 00:15:06.139 --> 00:15:10.879 then it's like this lackluster experience, especially I find like 358 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:13.190 the last two, there's good things about them for sure. 359 00:15:13.269 --> 00:15:15.710 But I have to be objective about how I view 360 00:15:15.809 --> 00:15:19.649 films and cinematography and stuff. And it was boring. 361 00:15:19.669 --> 00:15:23.309 Yeah, there's huge sections of it. Like there's a couple 362 00:15:23.330 --> 00:15:27.259 of like decent scenes. But like if you took all 363 00:15:27.299 --> 00:15:29.240 the in between out, like you've probably got like a 364 00:15:29.220 --> 00:15:30.500 15 minute movie. 365 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:31.279 Yes. 366 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:31.639 Yeah. 367 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.480 And even like the Cenobites, they show up at the end. 368 00:15:34.870 --> 00:15:37.429 And you just get a kind of glimpse of them. 369 00:15:37.450 --> 00:15:38.149 Do you know what, right? 370 00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:42.399 I miss CD head throwing CDs at people while they're 371 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.200 walking down the street with the city on fire. 372 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:49.159 Here's something interesting. I've seen a comment from Reddit. And 373 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.350 a guy said that Hellseeker is basically a poor man's 374 00:15:52.409 --> 00:15:56.590 version of Hellraiser Inferno. So it's like nearly the same 375 00:15:56.649 --> 00:15:58.750 movie again, except even worse. 376 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.399 That is kind of true because that's why I said 377 00:16:02.419 --> 00:16:05.159 to you off air, I was like, I don't know. 378 00:16:05.179 --> 00:16:08.899 There's aspects of the film I don't mind, but it 379 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.830 is that kind of, it is that same feel. I 380 00:16:11.850 --> 00:16:14.870 said like

a true crime type. I don't know how 381 00:16:14.889 --> 00:16:19.269 to even explain it. Like CSI type show. I don't know. Like, 382 00:16:19.570 --> 00:16:21.789 but it does feel kind of like that. 383 00:16:21.850 --> 00:16:21.950 Yeah. 384 00:16:21.970 --> 00:16:23.730 It's like one of those like bad cop movies. 385 00:16:25.169 --> 00:16:25.429 Yeah. 386 00:16:25.730 --> 00:16:25.950 Yeah. 387 00:16:25.990 --> 00:16:29.860 So for people who don't know, right. The film follows 388 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.899 a shady stockbroker who suffers from amnesia after having a 389 00:16:33.940 --> 00:16:36.879 car crash. Now, the part we don't really... I never... 390 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:39.240 It took me a long time to figure out is 391 00:16:39.259 --> 00:16:42.710 his wife is supposed to be Kirstie Cotton from the original. 392 00:16:42.730 --> 00:16:44.929 Yeah, I didn't know that. Is she connected... Oh, never mind. 393 00:16:44.950 --> 00:16:47.090 That's stupid. I was like, she's connected to Cotton Weary, 394 00:16:47.129 --> 00:16:47.649 but I was like. 395 00:16:47.669 --> 00:16:50.629 It doesn't really, like, come across that well, so, like, 396 00:16:50.649 --> 00:16:52.110 that doesn't really become. 397 00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:54.440 I didn't even realize that until the end. 398 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:54.860 Yeah. 399 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.259 I was like, oh. 400 00:16:57.059 --> 00:17:00.860 This leaves him in a hazy limbo of bizarre hallucinations 401 00:17:00.940 --> 00:17:07.000 and disturbing erotic nightmares. But as in a predestined journey, 402 00:17:07.579 --> 00:17:10.630 he takes the bait and follows the marked out clues 403 00:17:10.890 --> 00:17:15.250 all the way to Pinhead. And that's, it's nearly as 404 00:17:15.309 --> 00:17:18.269 bad as that sounds in one sense. Yeah, it's another 405 00:17:18.309 --> 00:17:20.789 one of those ones that is hindered by dimension though. 406 00:17:21.579 --> 00:17:25.339 Really weird one actually. They put gag orders on the 407 00:17:25.380 --> 00:17:30.269 cast and crew. So Fangoria at the time, no, just 408 00:17:30.289 --> 00:17:32.410 to like not talk about like the story or like 409 00:17:32.450 --> 00:17:34.160 don't give away any plot points, whatever. Right now. 410 00:17:34.190 --> 00:17:35.569 Weinstein's not getting some. 411 00:17:36.029 --> 00:17:38.519 Now I've, I've in fairness, right. I know that's probably 412 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.359 a thing with movies. Like if you're in a movie 413 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.640 that's coming out, they're going to tell you like, don't 414 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.819 spoil the movie. Of course I get that. 415 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:45.079 Yeah. 416 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.079 But apparently with this, it was so much so that 417 00:17:48.140 --> 00:17:51.000 when Fangoria wanted to do a cover story on the 418 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:56.000 director and this movie, he wasn't allowed to. I'm like, 419 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:01.089 you're turning away being the cover of the biggest horror 420 00:18:01.150 --> 00:18:02.430 magazine in the world. 421 00:18:03.589 --> 00:18:05.349 And they probably dropped the ball on that because they 422 00:18:05.369 --> 00:18:07.250 could have got more exposure to this film. 423 00:18:08.589 --> 00:18:10.769 Again, look, it's the Weinstein thing where they're living in 424 00:18:10.789 --> 00:18:15.210 their own planet. So it's like they're a little bit detached. 425 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:17.509 Weinstein is living in his own cell. 426 00:18:17.710 --> 00:18:20.190 He surely is. His planet blew up. 427 00:18:20.529 --> 00:18:22.450 I feel like they throw people to the wolves. I 428 00:18:22.490 --> 00:18:25.569 think it's just like You know, if people don't know the, 429 00:18:25.690 --> 00:18:28.470 you know, the whole Epstein stuff, yeah, they're controlling the world. 430 00:18:28.549 --> 00:18:31.329 And that's just like, oh, they just throw like Diddy, 431 00:18:31.430 --> 00:18:33.609 you know, all his baby oil. 432 00:18:33.970 --> 00:18:34.759 He's getting out to him. 433 00:18:35.019 --> 00:18:36.519 You don't think so? You think so? What? 434 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:37.779 Yeah, I think he's going to get out. 435 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:41.000 Oh my God. What a crazy world we live in. Anyways, 436 00:18:41.380 --> 00:18:42.460 off of the diddler. 437 00:18:42.779 --> 00:18:45.039 So yeah, like the whole Kirstie Cotton thing is weird 438 00:18:45.059 --> 00:18:47.559 because she was written into the story, I think originally. 439 00:18:48.420 --> 00:18:51.049 And then they reached out to Ashley Lawrence who plays 440 00:18:51.069 --> 00:18:54.019 the character and couldn't get in touch with her. So 441 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:55.740 then they were like, right, okay, we need to take 442 00:18:55.779 --> 00:19:00.099 her out of the movie. Then Doug Bradley was like, actually, no, 443 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.880 let me go and talk to her and try and 444 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.490 figure out, can I do whatever? And at this point, 445 00:19:06.650 --> 00:19:11.990 production had already kind of started. And they weren't able 446 00:19:12.170 --> 00:19:16.799 to rewrite it again. So I think the director basically 447 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.619 said to Doug, now that she's signed on, you can 448 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.660 just make up lines. Just add them in. I can't 449 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.259 put it on paper. because the wine scenes are going 450 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.640 to go crazy. Dimension are going to lose their minds. 451 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.720 So let's just, when we go to shoot, if you 452 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.559 and her can like figure out dialogue and like stuff 453 00:19:33.579 --> 00:19:36.539 between us, I can't actually, if I put that into 454 00:19:36.579 --> 00:19:38.660 the script now, they're going to lose their mind. 455 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:39.880 Why though? 456

00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.750 Because they've already, we were supposed to have her in 457 00:19:42.769 --> 00:19:44.369 the story and then they couldn't get in touch with her. 458 00:19:44.430 --> 00:19:46.130 So the wine scenes were like, we have to start now. 459 00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:48.029 We have to start now. So they started the movie. 460 00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:52.079 And then obviously, she said yes after they had started 461 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.759 so they brought her in and he was like i 462 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:56.539 wanted her to be a bigger part in the story 463 00:19:56.579 --> 00:19:58.319 and i wanted it to make more sense and blah 464 00:19:58.380 --> 00:20:02.920 blah so there is actually um there is i will say. 465 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:04.720 If they bring her back they could have done it 466 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.509 way better Yeah, because there's... That's why I always see 467 00:20:08.529 --> 00:20:11.269 the potential of these films, of why it bothers me. 468 00:20:11.609 --> 00:20:13.730 I've always said since the beginning of us doing this 469 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:15.289 show that we kind of get what we get and 470 00:20:15.309 --> 00:20:16.690 you kind of have to accept some of the stuff. 471 00:20:18.309 --> 00:20:20.650 But it could have been so much better. And I 472 00:20:20.670 --> 00:20:23.630 didn't even realize that. I didn't realize it literally until 473 00:20:23.650 --> 00:20:24.750 the last 10 minutes that was her. 474 00:20:25.029 --> 00:20:27.190 Yeah, and they cut out lots of dialogue and stuff. 475 00:20:27.269 --> 00:20:30.130 There's a really cool... You can see an alternate scene 476 00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:35.980 from that image I'm showing. and it's her and Pinhead talking, but, like, 477 00:20:36.089 --> 00:20:39.369 there's way more. There's, like, eight minutes of dialogue, and, like, 478 00:20:39.430 --> 00:20:42.309 it's a really cool, like, it kind of gives a 479 00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:44.549 little bit of the vibe of, like, oh, the hero 480 00:20:44.609 --> 00:20:47.390 from the original has met the villain all this time later, 481 00:20:47.410 --> 00:20:47.990 and it's, like, this. 482 00:20:47.930 --> 00:20:49.769 Kind of clash. Yeah, it didn't feel like that with this. 483 00:20:49.809 --> 00:20:52.009 Yeah, it literally was, like, they just put her in 484 00:20:52.049 --> 00:20:53.710 it to be, like, yeah, she's in it or something. 485 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:54.130 I don't know. 486 00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:57.640 Who cares? How about I make you a deal, you know? It's, like, 487 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:58.720 maybe five souls. 488 00:20:58.740 --> 00:21:00.900 Yeah, just quite boring, and just, like, it didn't really 489 00:21:00.940 --> 00:21:02.940 make sense. I was, like, it's a very random, like, 490 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:06.130 I want you, and all I've ever wanted is you, 491 00:21:06.329 --> 00:21:08.789 and this whole franchise has been about me wanting you, 492 00:21:09.509 --> 00:21:11.579 and now you've offered me five random souls that I 493 00:21:11.619 --> 00:21:15.099 don't give a shit about, so I'm taking that deal 494 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:15.940 for some reason. 495 00:21:17.259 --> 00:21:22.099 Yeah, that was pretty... So I'm like, this is lackluster, 496 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.329 as I said. I see the potential for what they 497 00:21:25.369 --> 00:21:27.289 could have done, and then it always makes me disappointed 498 00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:28.150 of what they did do. 499 00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:33.730 Yeah. There's actually a really weird bit of trivia I found, so... 500 00:21:34.349 --> 00:21:36.430 I found an interview, I think it was, somewhere from 501 00:21:36.470 --> 00:21:39.279 the director and he was talking about, I seen him 502 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:42.559 mentioning something that he called the $ 10, 000 extra. And I 503 00:21:42.740 --> 00:21:45.619 was like, what the hell is this? So I started 504 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.400 to dive into it a little bit more. So apparently, right, 505 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.579 there's a scene where Trevor and that character Brett are 506 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.960 at the water cooler in the office and a co-worker 507 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.099 comes up and interrupts him. He's just like some extra 508 00:21:58.460 --> 00:22:01.900 dude or whatever. But apparently due to labor laws in 509 00:22:01.940 --> 00:22:06.910 British Columbia at the time, it forbade directors from instructing 510 00:22:07.069 --> 00:22:11.089 extras unless it was done through the assistant director. But 511 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:13.849 when director Rick Boda told him to play the scene 512 00:22:13.910 --> 00:22:17.900 differently a second time, the guy done whatever and then 513 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.400 went back to the union and then was awarded 10 514 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:23.160 grand for being on set for like two hours. 515 00:22:24.339 --> 00:22:24.700 Wow. 516 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:26.259 I thought that was kind of interesting. I was like, 517 00:22:26.299 --> 00:22:28.569 that's a weird, like that's such a weird concept. It's 518 00:22:28.589 --> 00:22:32.250 like you're the director, but you can't direct the non-speaking extras. 519 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.579 Because you need the assistant director. You have to tell 520 00:22:36.619 --> 00:22:38.539 the assistant director and then he has to tell him. 521 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.410 Why is that even a thing? Yeah, I don't know, man. 522 00:22:45.450 --> 00:22:48.890 I feel like there was little aspects of this I liked, 523 00:22:48.990 --> 00:22:52.569 but it seemed nearly like the same movie again, in 524 00:22:52.609 --> 00:22:54.009 a way. Like they were playing with the whole. 525 00:22:54.049 --> 00:22:57.390 What, you didn't like that Men in Black looking scene 526 00:22:57.430 --> 00:22:59.400 where the guy's head comes out of the other guy's head? 527 00:22:59.420 -->

00:23:00.819 Yeah, weird. Weird. 528 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.920 That was weird. I was like, there's parts where I'm like, 529 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.240 the acting is on point. And then in the next scene, 530 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:10.000 it's like lacking it. There was a couple of scenes 531 00:23:10.059 --> 00:23:12.750 with what's the main character's name? 532 00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:13.769 Trevor. 533 00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:15.230 Trevor. Yeah. 534 00:23:15.269 --> 00:23:15.410 Yeah. 535 00:23:15.829 --> 00:23:18.210 And that cop. And I'm like it, like some of 536 00:23:18.250 --> 00:23:21.589 their dialogue and like that acting of between them wasn't 537 00:23:21.690 --> 00:23:25.150 actually that bad. And I found that some of the, 538 00:23:26.289 --> 00:23:28.650 some of the twists and turns of like what is 539 00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:32.630 actually happening. I will say I didn't... We're going to 540 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.549 spoil the ending, I guess. But I did not know 541 00:23:35.069 --> 00:23:36.990 or think that he was dead. They did, like, the 542 00:23:37.049 --> 00:23:41.329 Sixth Sense shit. Yeah. And I actually didn't guess that 543 00:23:41.349 --> 00:23:43.029 that was going to happen. I didn't know until, like, 544 00:23:43.089 --> 00:23:45.849 it was... They were kind of, oh... And I was like, oh, they're... 545 00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:48.559 He's dead. He's Bruce Willis, you know? 546 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.279 But then, is that not the same? Is that not 547 00:23:51.339 --> 00:23:53.039 the exact same thing they did on Inferno? 548 00:23:54.380 --> 00:23:55.519 Oh, yeah, they did, yeah. 549 00:23:55.779 --> 00:23:56.000 Well. 550 00:23:57.019 --> 00:24:00.299 No, the cop, yeah, the cop guy, whatever, isn't he 551 00:24:00.339 --> 00:24:00.960 dead at the end? 552 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:04.019 Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yeah, because he's talking to himself 553 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:05.640 and he's talking to the kid and they're supposed to 554 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:08.269 represent the two sides of him, the innocence and like 555 00:24:08.990 --> 00:24:12.109 the bad desires and shit and Pinhead is like, ha ha, 556 00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:14.470 the joke's on you, you've been in hell this whole time, 557 00:24:14.549 --> 00:24:17.549 I've been constructing everything, you idiot. Because remember, it's kind 558 00:24:17.569 --> 00:24:19.799 of like Jacob's Ladder. He's having all those weird hallucinations. 559 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:21.180 And this is kind of the same. Yeah, so they just. 560 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.720 Copied the fucking same story. And that would be scary. 561 00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:26.960 I will say that. If like that idea that you 562 00:24:27.019 --> 00:24:31.619 believe that you were existing in reality, in like physical reality, 563 00:24:31.660 --> 00:24:34.259 but meanwhile you're trapped in hell and the devil or 564 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:38.339 some sort of demonic being like Pinhead

is manufacturing your 565 00:24:38.380 --> 00:24:41.910 reality around you, which some people say we could live 566 00:24:41.950 --> 00:24:44.230 in right now. You know, the simulation theory. 567 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:46.720 Which is a scary thought. And like, I will give it, like, 568 00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:48.779 there's some concepts there. I feel like if they had 569 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.470 to put Inferno, the best parts of Inferno and this together, maybe, 570 00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:56.210 it might have been a better movie overall. 571 00:24:56.509 --> 00:24:58.809 Well, even, like, I just think the, I always say 572 00:24:58.829 --> 00:25:01.470 the potential, but if they put money into it with 573 00:25:01.549 --> 00:25:06.140 graphics and cinematography or whatever, yeah, it's just a dumb 574 00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:08.599 Hellraiser movie. But if you actually put the time and 575 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.960 thought into it, you could actually make a quite frightening, 576 00:25:12.099 --> 00:25:15.460 bizarre movie if they actually put the money into it. 577 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.539 And that's this pump it out and it's just entertainment. 578 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.259 But you see it kind of with the newest one 579 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:24.740 that I'd like to cover at some point. It's like 580 00:25:24.769 --> 00:25:28.309 they put some money into it and it looks like 581 00:25:29.049 --> 00:25:32.170 the filming and how it's shot looks pretty nice. It 582 00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:34.410 looks kind of beautiful in some regard, if you can 583 00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.009 call it that. It just makes you always disappointed with 584 00:25:37.069 --> 00:25:39.430 what we always could have had instead, right? 585 00:25:39.549 --> 00:25:41.109 I feel like we say that so much. 586 00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:42.710 Especially with these last two. 587 00:25:42.730 --> 00:25:42.890 Yeah. 588 00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:45.420 They were all kind of weird. Like a lot of 589 00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:49.259 them are. And, but I, especially with this franchise, I just, 590 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:54.349 every single movie other than one and maybe kind of three, 591 00:25:54.410 --> 00:25:56.289 I'm like, you could, this could have been so much 592 00:25:56.369 --> 00:25:58.829 better if you just put the time and effort in 593 00:25:58.890 --> 00:26:00.710 instead of pumping them out. And they did this to 594 00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:03.789 like every slasher film at the time. Yeah. 595 00:26:03.809 --> 00:26:06.630 It's, it's a really weird one. You mentioned the like detective, 596 00:26:06.670 --> 00:26:09.029 like the cop characters or whatever. And like you have the, 597 00:26:09.049 --> 00:26:12.890 I think it's givens and, Lange or something like that 598 00:26:12.910 --> 00:26:14.670 are their names and then it turns out like that 599 00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:18.509 they're basically the same person yeah there's a scene where 600 00:26:18.549

--> 00:26:20.519 like he hears them talking in the office and then 601 00:26:20.579 --> 00:26:24.440 only one of them walks out and it's like whatever 602 00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:26.119 but there was a piece of dialogue there that I 603 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.180 wrote down that I was like these are the little 604 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.500 nuggets of like oh there's a really cool concept there 605 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.640 that they're trying to play with but it's just not 606 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.119 coming off as well and he says to Trevor he 607 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.910 goes I believe each of us is the sum of 608 00:26:38.990 --> 00:26:43.829 two different of two entirely different people, good, bad, honest 609 00:26:43.869 --> 00:26:47.210 and dishonest, righteous and evil. That's how we're all made. 610 00:26:47.630 --> 00:26:50.789 It's just a question of how much of each. And 611 00:26:50.829 --> 00:26:53.089 I'm like, there's little nuggets of like, because. 612 00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:54.069 There's truth to that. That's what I was saying, that 613 00:26:54.089 --> 00:26:57.410 dialogue that she had with that cop, I actually didn't mind. 614 00:26:57.430 --> 00:27:00.170 And that's that thing like Richard Ramirez said, right? He's like, 615 00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:04.339 I'm not 100% evil. I am evil, but I'm not 100%. 616 00:27:04.339 --> 00:27:06.920 Evil exists within all of us. And it almost depends 617 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.980 how much has consumed you, you know, in the end 618 00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:10.259 of it. 619 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.390 Yeah, and like how much you'll give into it and 620 00:27:12.410 --> 00:27:14.730 like there is a really cool concept and I do 621 00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:17.950 like that like the Hellraiser movies try and play with 622 00:27:17.990 --> 00:27:21.269 that a little bit. But again, it's like you said, 623 00:27:21.670 --> 00:27:24.250 there's just something, I don't know, it feels like there's 624 00:27:24.289 --> 00:27:28.779 always something missing that doesn't really come across or they. 625 00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:31.619 Never get it right. Well, that device right there, that 626 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:34.640 I could, that's not going that far in here. 627 00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:37.740 I mean, does it? Yeah, but are your, is your 628 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.920 mouth open? Are your teeth together? Is that like drill, drill, drill? 629 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:41.759 I don't know. 630 00:27:41.980 --> 00:27:43.880 Oh, that... Okay, that would be far worse. 631 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.569 That would be a million times worse. 632 00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:48.849 I feel like the cinnabites are even lacking the cinema buttons. 633 00:27:48.970 --> 00:27:50.769 Yeah, yeah, they didn't really have the same feel. 634 00:27:51.970 --> 00:27:54.009 No, and I just... They were only shown for a 635 00:27:54.029 --> 00:27:57.710 couple seconds, really, overall. Maybe a couple minutes at most. 636 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.000 And some of them kind of look cool, but then... 637 00:28:02.190 --> 00:28:04.950 It's like, I feel like we talked to this before again, 638 00:28:05.049 --> 00:28:07.650 is like they waste these characters that could be utilized 639 00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:10.390 in a different way. Like have him like even seeing 640 00:28:10.430 --> 00:28:14.440 them sometimes as peripheral or like them just being around 641 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.240 and even the audience catches them. Kind of essentially being 642 00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.980 the architects of this hell design, right? Where it's almost 643 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.880 like the, the idea of the machine elves, right? How 644 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:26.359 they're constructing our reality. 645 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.299 And it reminds me of when we when we covered 646 00:28:30.619 --> 00:28:33.339 jacob's ladder where like there's flashes of those like weird 647 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:35.680 faces and shit like he looks through the bus window 648 00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.519 or the oh yeah a truck drives by or something 649 00:28:38.539 --> 00:28:40.440 like that and he sees that weird face and then 650 00:28:40.460 --> 00:28:42.009 when he looks back there's nothing there and it's like 651 00:28:42.049 --> 00:28:44.569 not weird and he keeps seeing all of that weird 652 00:28:44.630 --> 00:28:46.890 shit and like they could have played with that rather 653 00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:49.109 than just being like look scary monster guy that's not 654 00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:51.349 scary now because i've shown him to you up front. 655 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:57.440 Yeah if like uh Out of all of them so far, 656 00:28:58.180 --> 00:29:00.579 this one definitely bored me the most. 657 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:01.339 Yeah. 658 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.140 There's like, you'll have like a cool bit for like 659 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:04.960 90 seconds. 660 00:29:05.509 --> 00:29:05.809 Yeah. 661 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.509 And then it's like 25 minutes of just boredom. And 662 00:29:08.529 --> 00:29:10.849 then it's like a cool two minutes and it's like 663 00:29:10.849 --> 00:29:11.890 10 minutes of boredom. 664 00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:15.029 It's funny when he's like, he's like being the cuck 665 00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:16.940 for the box. 666 00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:17.880 Yeah. 667 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.589 He's like filming her opening the box. You know what 668 00:29:20.609 --> 00:29:22.589 I mean? He's like in his cock chair with his kid. 669 00:29:22.609 --> 00:29:24.809 Didn't really get that. I'm not going to lie. I know. 670 00:29:24.910 --> 00:29:27.099 Well, I guess because he wants to see her open it, 671 00:29:27.150 --> 00:29:27.799 I guess, right? 672 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.619 Yeah, I just, I don't know. That for me, I 673 00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:31.880 was like, I don't really get what's going on here, 674 00:29:31.880 -->

00:29:33.200 but I will say actually. 675 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:34.250 The pin scene, yeah. 676 00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.690 Yeah, I i had written that down the acupuncture scene 677 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.359 was pretty cool when he puts the pin out his 678 00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:39.799 head and sticks it through his neck i was like 679 00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:42.579 that's kind of unique and then he says like something 680 00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:45.240 more pretty cool i can't remember exactly but he's like 681 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.359 um he's like do you prefer pain or pleasure trevor 682 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.130 and he's like i personally prefer pain and i'm like 683 00:29:53.170 --> 00:29:55.809 that's kind of cool it's just like a generic pinhead 684 00:29:55.829 --> 00:29:56.470 thing but like. 685 00:29:57.210 --> 00:29:58.859 It's like saying they could have put more money to 686 00:29:58.900 --> 00:30:01.240 it and have him like pull out multiple pins from 687 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.019 his head and just start sticking them with him. But 688 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.279 he does that really one long one, which I think 689 00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.160 is interesting to utilize the idea that he has pins 690 00:30:08.220 --> 00:30:12.009 in his head, which is such a strange design overall, right? 691 00:30:12.049 --> 00:30:14.390 We all recognize it now, but the whole design of 692 00:30:14.509 --> 00:30:18.289 it is quite bizarre and weird in regard to like, oh, 693 00:30:18.309 --> 00:30:20.490 he's someone wearing a hockey mask is one thing or 694 00:30:20.890 --> 00:30:23.660 a burnt face, but you're like covered in pins and 695 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.019 you're wearing some BDSM where your nipples are like pierced 696 00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:29.900 and shit. It is a weird thing, right? But I 697 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.140 like the idea of just pulling it out. It's kind 698 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.980 of creepy. But it would have been cool if he 699 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:35.900 was like. 700 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.509 I will say, actually, there was a jump scare in 701 00:30:38.529 --> 00:30:41.089 the movie that got me, which is something that doesn't 702 00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:43.349 happen that often. I don't know if it was because 703 00:30:43.369 --> 00:30:46.410 I wasn't really paying attention that much. I was kind 704 00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:49.309 of just sitting there mindless going. And then when it happened, 705 00:30:49.369 --> 00:30:51.069 I was like, whoa, that frightened the shit out of me. 706 00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:54.930 The scene where he's, trying to get the stuff. Remember 707 00:30:54.950 --> 00:30:56.930 he has some sort of vision and he's sitting in 708 00:30:56.970 --> 00:31:00.950 his little office booth thing and that dickhead guy that 709 00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:02.789 he works with keeps popping over the thing. 710 00:31:04.289 --> 00:31:04.529 Yeah, yeah. 711 00:31:04.549 --> 00:31:06.049 And he's like saying shit to him or whatever and 712 00:31:06.069 --> 00:31:08.650 he's like, you don't look so good, buddy. You know 713 00:31:08.670 --> 00:31:10.829 what that is? That's low blood sugar or something. Grab 714 00:31:10.849 --> 00:31:14.319 a cookie. And he goes to the vending machine and 715 00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:16.059 he's trying to get something out of it and it's not, 716 00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.579 it won't come out and then like the lights start 717 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:19.960 to flicker and stuff and he's like, what the fuck 718 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:25.289 is going on? And he turns around. No, I think 719 00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:28.630 it's right before that. And a hand, like some creepy, 720 00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:31.190 it looks like the, I don't know, the chick from 721 00:31:31.210 --> 00:31:34.859 The Ring or whatever. A hand like slams the glass 722 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:35.619 right in front of him. 723 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:36.880 Oh, yeah. 724 00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:38.500 Yeah, that scared the shit out of me. 725 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:39.119 Like it was the. 726 00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:40.660 Cheap jump scare, but I don't know why, but it 727 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.059 got me. 728 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:42.440 That's so funny. 729 00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:47.549 Because it's such a generic, like it's such an easy thing. 730 00:31:47.589 --> 00:31:50.410 But again, They were playing with cool concepts, but I 731 00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:52.730 feel like it was already done before. Like, the thing 732 00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:56.609 of him with all these different women, like the three 733 00:31:56.690 --> 00:31:59.650 mistresses or whatever, and, like, that idea of, like, a 734 00:31:59.730 --> 00:32:02.670 guy who cannot help himself, like, no matter what position 735 00:32:02.710 --> 00:32:05.740 he's in. And then the story he tells himself about, like, 736 00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:09.240 you know, I was so upset over my wife drowning 737 00:32:09.299 --> 00:32:11.299 in that crash and the whole thing. And then it 738 00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:13.180 turns out, like, that he's a massive liar and he's 739 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.319 a deviant and he loves money and he was trying 740 00:32:15.339 --> 00:32:17.519 to fucking... He was trying to kill her to. 741 00:32:19.220 --> 00:32:21.690 Him and the mistress and the friends were trying to 742 00:32:21.730 --> 00:32:24.450 yeah and then she double crosses him and like there 743 00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:26.970 was a really unique twist there i think that could 744 00:32:26.990 --> 00:32:29.390 have been but at the end it didn't give me 745 00:32:29.430 --> 00:32:33.099 that like i was just kind of like oh right. 746 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.160 Which actually is like true crime. 747 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.000 Yeah it's like she all right now i get it 748 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.359 she's the chick from the first thing oh now yeah 749

00:32:40.420 --> 00:32:41.650 that kind of makes sense. 750 00:32:41.859 --> 00:32:43.980 It gets confusing, and that's why I have problems on 751 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.200 these movies. But that definitely happens, right? I was talking 752 00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:53.769 recently about Lorena Bobbitt on a show called The Conspiracy. 753 00:32:54.049 --> 00:32:56.650 We're like, oh, yeah, wasn't he just cheating or something 754 00:32:56.670 --> 00:32:58.349 like that? And then we looked it up, and he 755 00:32:58.369 --> 00:33:02.029 was being super abusive. And then now we made it. 756 00:33:02.750 --> 00:33:04.890 For everybody that doesn't know, Lorena Bobbitt cut off her 757 00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:09.769 husband's cocket And then the cops found it in the woods, 758 00:33:10.250 --> 00:33:12.369 and then he attached it. And if you guys go 759 00:33:12.390 --> 00:33:15.269 look up Franken-penis, you can watch him in a porno movie. 760 00:33:15.950 --> 00:33:19.440 Pretty messed up. Oh, yeah. There is an episode out there. 761 00:33:19.460 --> 00:33:20.019 I made you look. 762 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:21.980 I made you look. There is an episode out there, 763 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.779 I think, of Strange Brew where for some reason I 764 00:33:25.779 --> 00:33:27.039 looked at that. I don't know why. 765 00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:30.049 It's so funny. You're like, what the fuck, man? I 766 00:33:30.069 --> 00:33:31.930 was like, yeah, man. I made Billy look at it too. 767 00:33:32.349 --> 00:33:33.089 Yeah, I don't know. 768 00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:34.170 Yikes. 769 00:33:34.299 --> 00:33:36.240 I don't know why. But that's why it reminds me 770 00:33:36.259 --> 00:33:38.500 of these stories where there's another true crime case. I 771 00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:41.700 feel like recently, I can't remember where the guys like, 772 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.400 you know, got these mistress mistresses and then like the 773 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.140 wife finds out and kills him. Like that happens all 774 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:47.480 the time. 775 00:33:47.900 --> 00:33:49.769 It's a dangerous game. Especially in the trailer parks. 776 00:33:50.369 --> 00:33:51.829 I saw you were out with Becky Lee. Were you 777 00:33:51.849 --> 00:33:55.329 out with Becky Lee? Cause I got into this, you know, 778 00:33:55.410 --> 00:33:57.990 that there was like, I think one of, there was 779 00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:01.380 a woman member on our strange deaths episode or strange weapons. 780 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.890 Cause The titties were the weapons, technically. And the chick 781 00:34:04.930 --> 00:34:07.289 suffocated that guy to death because he was like cheating. 782 00:34:08.010 --> 00:34:09.070 Which is also bizarre. 783 00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:11.590 Pretty sure he was cheating, but it's like she's suffocating 784 00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:13.590 him with her big titties, but it's like a good 785 00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:14.429 way to go out, you know. 786 00:34:14.730 --> 00:34:16.730 Some of the stuff as well that Pinhead comes out 787 00:34:16.769 --> 00:34:18.889 with is quite on the nose even for now. Like, 788 00:34:19.329 --> 00:34:22.650 there's a line where I think, is it after he 789 00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:27.940 reveals to Trevor kind of what's going on, maybe? Is 790 00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:30.539 it towards the end at some point, maybe? And he 791 00:34:30.579 --> 00:34:30.849 says to him. 792 00:34:30.860 --> 00:34:32.739 He looks like he's ready to get He's ready to 793 00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:33.130 get it. 794 00:34:33.500 --> 00:34:38.230 He says, what does he say? Welcome to the worst 795 00:34:38.309 --> 00:34:39.949 nightmare of all, reality. 796 00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:43.110 Oh, yes. I like that. That was cool because then 797 00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:46.369 he realizes it's all a trick and it's been manufactured. 798 00:34:47.150 --> 00:34:49.329 Yeah, I kind of like that. And again, I think 799 00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.559 they were playing with ideas like, so his behavior was 800 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.559 supposed to kind of, even though I suppose Pinhead was 801 00:34:55.579 --> 00:34:59.619 orchestrating the whole thing, it was all being done off 802 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.880 the back of trevor's behavior so it was like he 803 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.519 was nearly the architect of his own demise without even 804 00:35:07.579 --> 00:35:09.570 so like the more he was leaning into his like 805 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.090 deviant behavior and then lying about it the more he 806 00:35:13.130 --> 00:35:16.730 was fucking himself up without realizing. 807 00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:19.269 Yeah it looks like pinhead's ready to take a dick 808 00:35:19.309 --> 00:35:23.670 in the mouth okay great does it not great he 809 00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:25.210 looks like a he looks like one of those blow-up 810 00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:29.469 dolls when they're like oh brilliant Absolutely brilliant. Someone is 811 00:35:29.489 --> 00:35:30.360 going to make that. 812 00:35:30.539 --> 00:35:34.380 If you've come here to hear some good analysis of 813 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.659 these movies like we've been given, that has gone out 814 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:38.219 the window. 815 00:35:39.460 --> 00:35:41.690 Does it not? Everyone's going to agree with me on this. 816 00:35:41.769 --> 00:35:42.670 If you guys are watching the video. 817 00:35:42.690 --> 00:35:45.849 I don't know about that. And again, right? Is that 818 00:35:45.889 --> 00:35:47.530 not the same thing that happens. 819 00:35:47.409 --> 00:35:50.949 At the end of Inferno? It's the same thing. It's 820 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.750 literally the same face too. Where it's dragging across. They 821 00:35:54.789 --> 00:35:56.829 just copied the movie. The more I think about this, 822 00:35:56.869 --> 00:35:58.690 the more they just copied the movie. 823 00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:02.170 Don't get me wrong. It looks cool and it

looks strange, 824 00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:06.179 but I'm pretty sure at the end of Hellraiser Inferno. 825 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.159 Yes, they did do that. It looked better, actually. 826 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.760 I'm right in saying, though, that that exact thing does happen. 827 00:36:13.539 --> 00:36:17.280 Yep, it does. They copied. This is a carbon copy 828 00:36:17.300 --> 00:36:19.309 of the last one. They just changed a couple things. 829 00:36:21.139 --> 00:36:23.260 Cause now I think about, yeah, cause his face looks 830 00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:25.539 more that whatever, what's the last one? 831 00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:26.559 Inferno. 832 00:36:27.139 --> 00:36:30.679 Inferno. It's more like they actually add more prosthetics to 833 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.320 his face. This is just kind of a little lazy, 834 00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.550 but it's the same thing. Yeah. 835 00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:40.110 It is literally the same idea. 836 00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:42.550 That's so dumb, man. 837 00:36:42.590 --> 00:36:45.150 That's really weird though, isn't it? I don't know what 838 00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:47.989 made that dawn on me like a day or two ago. 839 00:36:48.070 --> 00:36:50.739 And I was like, wait a second. I'm pretty sure 840 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.699 this is just the same movie again. 841 00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:57.079 Now that you say that, it all makes sense. That's 842 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:58.099 literally what it is. 843 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.280 And then when I seen somebody saying like, Hellseeker feels 844 00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:03.360 like a poor man's inferno. It's like, there's really good 845 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.260 qualities of both of them. And you probably would have 846 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.699 been better off just making one really good movie rather 847 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:11.980 than two, like not so great movies. So annoying. Double 848 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.119 up the budget. I don't know what the budget was 849 00:37:14.179 --> 00:37:15.690 for either of these, but like, let's say it's a 850 00:37:15.730 --> 00:37:19.059 million or two each. Just make one movie for four 851 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:21.579 million rather than make two movies for two million each. 852 00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:24.809 Now that you say it, it's just so funny. Now 853 00:37:24.829 --> 00:37:27.389 that you say that, I'm like, oh, that's. 854 00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:30.329 Literally what it is. The end is not so. 855 00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:34.690 Bad, I guess. It did get me where he's actually dead. 856 00:37:34.750 --> 00:37:35.469 That did get me. 857 00:37:35.869 --> 00:37:37.909 Yeah, I do kind of like it and I like 858 00:37:37.969 --> 00:37:42.739 the kind of little, I don't know, face-off between him 859 00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:45.920 and Pinhead and stuff and the dialogue. I always enjoy 860 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.800 when Pinhead gets to go around and just talk shit 861 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:51.360 kind of at the end and be like, ha ha, 862 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.019 it's all, you think it's a big game and all. 863 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.300 You stupid bitch, Christy. 864 00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.000 Yeah, kind of like, I'm not going to lie, I 865 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.139 do kind of like that. 866 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.159 Yeah, it was cool when he was talking about like 867 00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:07.159 reality or whatever. Welcome to my nightmare. 868 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.619 Wait, wrong movie. I'd love to, I'd love to show 869 00:38:11.699 --> 00:38:12.590 it on this, on, on. 870 00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:13.909 What the fuck was that? 871 00:38:13.969 --> 00:38:18.110 The episode, but I can't, um, I can't bring it 872 00:38:18.150 --> 00:38:22.010 up because it would get copyrighted because us talking about 873 00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:23.929 it and breaking it down wouldn't be seen as fair 874 00:38:24.010 --> 00:38:26.889 use for some reason. I would love to bring that 875 00:38:27.030 --> 00:38:29.800 ending scene up so we could kind of break down 876 00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:31.500 some of the stuff that Pinhead is saying to him 877 00:38:31.539 --> 00:38:32.900 and what it all means. 878 00:38:33.619 --> 00:38:35.340 But YouTube is no fun. 879 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.800 Yeah, and so many people seem to be having issues 880 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.099 with fair use lately, so it's pointless to even do that. 881 00:38:43.099 --> 00:38:45.719 Me and Matt got it. They appealed it, but there 882 00:38:45.739 --> 00:38:48.300 was not just a clip from my show of us 883 00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:51.340 talking about the Nazis going into the underground in Antarctica. 884 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.539 And it was labeled as hate speech. And then I 885 00:38:53.579 --> 00:38:56.780 appealed it and they put it back up. But I'm like, 886 00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.090 what did we say that we're just we're literally just 887 00:38:59.179 --> 00:39:02.170 joking about them flying their UFOs in Antarctica and stuff 888 00:39:02.210 --> 00:39:04.769 like that. And then the ending is Hitler riding a dinosaur. 889 00:39:05.670 --> 00:39:08.630 Like he's in Hogwarts. It's like the things that they're 890 00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:11.000 trying to flag. It's, it is ridiculous, man. That's why 891 00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:13.840 I don't like YouTube is annoying. I actually do like 892 00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:16.019 rumble a lot. Cause they don't do any of that shit. 893 00:39:16.099 --> 00:39:20.960 I actually, I actually like YouTube, but like it's, it's, 894 00:39:21.179 --> 00:39:23.449 you have to be very careful on like what you do. 895 00:39:24.610 --> 00:39:25.989 I still think that you could be one of the 896 00:39:26.030 --> 00:39:28.670 biggest horror podcasts on rumble. If you actually took the 897 00:39:28.710 --> 00:39:32.869 time to really, utilize it. But Aaron is too busy. 898 00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:35.389 I go on,

I go on runs where I like 899 00:39:35.530 --> 00:39:38.219 go live. I'll put stuff up to go live for 900 00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:42.579 like every week for like a month. And then I'll 901 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:43.460 just stop again. 902 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.880 Yeah, I know. You could, we had to build it up, man. 903 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.780 Now we're like over a thousand or something like that. 904 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.079 So it's like you, I think there's a potential cause 905 00:39:52.099 --> 00:39:54.099 I don't see that much on rumble. I see like 906 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.099 sports and gaming even and stuff like that, but it's very, 907 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.000 and like a lot of gaming even too, which is interesting, 908 00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:01.719 but you know, let's get it out there. 909 00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:05.500 Do you want to know a big fact about this movie? 910 00:40:07.179 --> 00:40:10.280 What? It only got two stars on rotten tomatoes. 911 00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:14.739 No, no, no, no. Big, cool, interesting fact that maybe 912 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.019 you won't believe this, but this is the only movie 913 00:40:17.059 --> 00:40:19.380 where pinhead never directly kills anybody. 914 00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:24.010 Oh, interesting. Well, does he, does the pin through his 915 00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:24.630 throat count? 916 00:40:25.730 --> 00:40:27.849 Technically not because he's already dead. 917 00:40:27.869 --> 00:40:33.849 Oh yeah, I guess. That idea, if done well, would 918 00:40:33.889 --> 00:40:37.869 have been incredible because that whole idea of like existing 919 00:40:37.909 --> 00:40:41.429 in a reality and then finding out that, no, you're 920 00:40:41.469 --> 00:40:44.190 actually in hell. That's a scary thought to me that 921 00:40:44.289 --> 00:40:45.730 one day I'm just going to wake up and I'm 922 00:40:45.829 --> 00:40:46.550 actually in hell. 923 00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:50.199 Imagine that all this has just been like nothing. 924 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.699 That's what it's scary, dude. And you know, like, who knows, right? 925 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.440 One of my grandmothers was always like, I believe everywhere 926 00:40:56.460 --> 00:40:58.639 else is heaven and this is hell. And I was like, thanks, grandma. 927 00:40:58.659 --> 00:41:04.130 That's reassuring, you know? But it's... Yeah, I don't know 928 00:41:04.150 --> 00:41:06.510 how I feel about that. Because the more I think 929 00:41:06.530 --> 00:41:07.789 about it, the more it kind of scares me a bit. 930 00:41:07.909 --> 00:41:11.070 And then the simulation shift, or like, there's other movies 931 00:41:11.090 --> 00:41:13.719 that I feel like portrayed this a little better. 932 00:41:13.860 --> 00:41:16.280 Like there was, this kind of feels like that, is 933 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.059 it the 2000 movie, Memento? 934 00:41:19.429 --> 00:41:20.190 I never watched that. 935 00:41:20.210 --> 00:41:23.650 Is it worth watching? And then if you look at 936 00:41:23.690 --> 00:41:27.949 it as well, actually, there's a kind of a bluey 937 00:41:28.139 --> 00:41:31.639 green hue off of this whole movie as well, which 938 00:41:31.659 --> 00:41:33.699 kind of feels Matrix-esque. 939 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.039 That's why I don't like it, because it looks like 940 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:37.119 a television show. 941 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.800 Yeah, it's a weird sort. And I don't know if 942 00:41:39.820 --> 00:41:40.969 they were trying to go for that. I think the 943 00:41:40.989 --> 00:41:41.949 Weinsteins did that, right? 944 00:41:41.989 --> 00:41:43.510 The Weinsteins were like, just make it blue. 945 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:48.309 Well it was probably like oh Matrix looked got lots 946 00:41:48.369 --> 00:41:51.010 of money make it look like the Matrix and then 947 00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:53.170 if you try and say as a director or as 948 00:41:53.289 --> 00:41:56.289 a you know a first time filmmaker well I don't 949 00:41:56.349 --> 00:41:58.090 we're making a Hellraiser movie so I would make it 950 00:41:58.110 --> 00:41:59.769 look like the Matrix and they're like just make it 951 00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:02.110 look like it I don't care what I don't care 952 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:02.610 if it doesn't mean. 953 00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:04.860 Anything it's so funny how many times I've heard like 954 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.800 other no just like even just YouTubers that talk about 955 00:42:07.820 --> 00:42:10.400 horror always bring up the Weinsteins and just like a 956 00:42:10.420 --> 00:42:11.800 bunch of douchebags. 957 00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:16.849 There's there's two, I think, occasions where Rob Zombie talks 958 00:42:16.889 --> 00:42:20.139 about working with them for the Halloween movies. One is 959 00:42:20.179 --> 00:42:23.420 on Joe Rogan, and the other one is on Howie 960 00:42:23.460 --> 00:42:28.440 Mandel's podcast. And on Howie Mandel's one, they're talking, and 961 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.320 he's like, what do you mean, like, they would be 962 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.210 just saying crazy stuff? And he's like, so basically they 963 00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:36.670 would give me notes every day. He was like, every day. 964 00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:39.590 Every day of the week, for months on end, I 965 00:42:39.610 --> 00:42:42.210 would get notes from them. And it would be stuff like, 966 00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:45.679 we're going to do a thing in the graveyard scene 967 00:42:45.780 --> 00:42:47.579 and we're going to blah, blah, blah. And he's, we 968 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.960 don't have a graveyard. Like at no point to, I 969 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.659 don't understand. Like, how am I going to, where am 970 00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:57.599 I going to get that from? Or like, they'll say 971 00:42:57.619 --> 00:43:00.539 something and he'll be like, I don't know if they're 972 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.780 that detached from

reality. I don't know how movies work, 973 00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:06.510 but like we shot those hospital scenes a month ago 974 00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:09.150 and the set has been broken down. I can't just 975 00:43:09.889 --> 00:43:12.449 go back and add in. They were like, he needs 976 00:43:12.510 --> 00:43:15.659 a necklace full of like fingers or something. And he's like, 977 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.599 why would he? And he was like, we've already shot 978 00:43:17.659 --> 00:43:21.260 like half the movie. How, where's the necklace of fingers 979 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:22.880 going to come out of? Cause he hasn't worn it 980 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:24.119 up until this point. 981 00:43:25.900 --> 00:43:28.179 Yeah. It's just so dumb. It's just people that have 982 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.320 money that shouldn't trying to control, like especially cinema and 983 00:43:32.340 --> 00:43:35.000 stuff like that. And that's a, that's a funny, my 984 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.780 buddy saw Rob zombie live recently. Oh, him. 985 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.639 Yeah, him and Marilyn Manson. I would give anything. I 986 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.949 would give anything to see him and Marilyn Manson. 987 00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:48.130 My wife hates him. It's so funny. I was like, 988 00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:50.110 we were putting on this Halloween playlist in the car 989 00:43:50.130 --> 00:43:52.750 for like the baby and that came and I was like, 990 00:43:52.769 --> 00:43:54.679 you love this song, don't you? She's like, I don't 991 00:43:54.739 --> 00:43:56.460 even know what this is. And then as soon as 992 00:43:56.500 --> 00:43:58.500 like he started singing, she's like, turn this off. 993 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.239 I love Rob. 994 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.969 It's like, Dragula or whatever I love him and I 995 00:44:07.010 --> 00:44:09.190 love Marilyn Manson I don't care what anyone says. 996 00:44:09.409 --> 00:44:13.010 It's so funny that you when we covered Rob Zombie 997 00:44:13.070 --> 00:44:15.820 on the show it made me like him more because 998 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.960 I just I like some of his movies and some 999 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:20.639 of his music I was like it was alright but 1000 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.579 I said it just reminded me of those kids with 1001 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.769 big pants and chains on them and wife beaters right 1002 00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:28.420 And the more I looked into him, the more I 1003 00:44:28.500 --> 00:44:30.489 liked his kind of attitude. People were like, he's a dick. 1004 00:44:30.530 --> 00:44:31.989 I'm like, I would be too if I was a 1005 00:44:32.010 --> 00:44:33.889 famous rock star. And I just, I thought everyone was 1006 00:44:33.909 --> 00:44:34.309 a goof. 1007 00:44:34.610 --> 00:44:36.570 I just, the thing I've always loved about him is like, 1008 00:44:36.690 --> 00:44:38.429 I'm just making what I want to make. And I 1009 00:44:38.469 --> 00:44:41.610 don't really

care because if it doesn't suit anybody, because 1010 00:44:41.650 --> 00:44:43.889 he could probably, he talks about it when he was 1011 00:44:43.929 --> 00:44:45.710 in White Zombie and stuff. And he was like, we 1012 00:44:45.730 --> 00:44:49.880 were offered like massive record deals. And Marilyn Manson had 1013 00:44:49.889 --> 00:44:52.139 the same thing, I think, where it was like, you're 1014 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.329 offered these huge amounts of money. but you need to 1015 00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:58.530 do it the labels way. And they're like, no, we're just, 1016 00:44:58.630 --> 00:45:00.429 I'm just going to not do that. Cause then I 1017 00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:02.530 won't be Marilyn Manson or I won't be Rob Zombie. 1018 00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:04.469 I'm just, I'm going to do what I'm doing. And like, 1019 00:45:04.530 --> 00:45:08.409 if I make $ 50, 000 a year versus making 5 million 1020 00:45:08.429 --> 00:45:10.130 a year, well, at least I'll be happy and I'll 1021 00:45:10.150 --> 00:45:10.889 be doing what I want to do. 1022 00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:13.590 I've loved his monsters movie. 1023 00:45:13.610 --> 00:45:16.559 I actually, you love that. And I despise that. 1024 00:45:18.610 --> 00:45:20.750 I would re-watch it every year as like a Halloween 1025 00:45:20.809 --> 00:45:23.639 like thing especially for kids like it's not there's nothing 1026 00:45:23.659 --> 00:45:27.219 subversive or weird about it so I'm like I liked 1027 00:45:27.300 --> 00:45:29.000 it I thought it was and I grew up watching 1028 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:30.480 that show like every morning. 1029 00:45:30.219 --> 00:45:32.880 I need to give that another re-watch actually and give 1030 00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:34.820 it a chance again I feel like I didn't give 1031 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.199 it a chance the first time around. 1032 00:45:37.420 --> 00:45:39.039 I know didn't we we did a watch along of 1033 00:45:39.099 --> 00:45:41.130 it did we not I thought we did yeah we 1034 00:45:41.150 --> 00:45:43.369 did yeah we did and you hated it I was 1035 00:45:43.449 --> 00:45:44.230 having fun. 1036 00:45:43.989 --> 00:45:46.190 I was like this is amazing So this will tell 1037 00:45:46.210 --> 00:45:49.409 you how good Hellseeker was. We've talked about stuff going 1038 00:45:49.449 --> 00:45:52.280 on in the world. We've talked about the Friday the 1039 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.539 13th TV show. We've talked about Rob Zombie. We've talked 1040 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.699 about Marilyn Manson. We've talked about Jimmy Savile. So like, 1041 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.050 that'll tell you how good Hellseeker is, guys. 1042 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.530 That's what I should have been. I should have been 1043 00:46:02.650 --> 00:46:04.989 Jimmy Savile and I should have made the wife dress 1044 00:46:05.090 --> 00:46:06.510 up as Thatcher. 1045 00:46:07.130 --> 00:46:11.260 Margaret Thatcher. Nice. That would have been hilarious though. I'm 1046 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:11.800 not going to lie. 1047 00:46:11.900 --> 00:46:14.820 It's so funny. Yeah. It's just, it was just like, uh, we, 1048 00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:17.820 I started trying to watch, I don't know if I'll, 1049 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.659 I'll carry on with it, but the new American horror 1050 00:46:20.699 --> 00:46:25.449 story where they're trying to watch it. Yeah, man. Just 1051 00:46:25.469 --> 00:46:28.070 know they don't really like white people in it. There's 1052 00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:31.150 a sacrificial ritual part and only people getting sacrificed are 1053 00:46:31.190 --> 00:46:32.989 white people from history. I was like, oh, that's fun. 1054 00:46:33.050 --> 00:46:33.289 Nice. 1055 00:46:33.329 --> 00:46:37.670 Thank you. Typical. But it's kind of weird, man. 1056 00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:42.469 I always get nostalgia every time I see a commercial 1057 00:46:42.510 --> 00:46:45.809 for when that's coming back on a new season. And 1058 00:46:45.849 --> 00:46:48.010 I hear the little theme song thing and I'm like, 1059 00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:51.179 because those first couple of seasons, man, were really good. 1060 00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:53.789 They were really good. You know, at first even four 1061 00:46:53.809 --> 00:46:57.510 or five and even like hotel wasn't bad. And there's 1062 00:46:57.530 --> 00:46:59.690 a lot of like symbolism, like real occult symbolism. 1063 00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:01.789 Is that just the nature of the beast though? Do 1064 00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:04.519 you think that nearly everything suffers from that? Like once, 1065 00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:06.579 like I remember when The Walking Dead came out, right? 1066 00:47:06.659 --> 00:47:09.320 And I would have, I would have known The Walking 1067 00:47:09.340 --> 00:47:12.179 Dead before it got the TV show. And I remember 1068 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:13.530 when they announced they were doing a TV show, I 1069 00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:15.630 was like, holy fuck, this is going to be the 1070 00:47:15.670 --> 00:47:18.519 best thing ever. I've never watched it and then the 1071 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.079 first couple of seasons I was like this is like 1072 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.099 I would obviously that would air over with you guys 1073 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.679 five hours do you know what I mean so like 1074 00:47:26.739 --> 00:47:28.380 if that aired for you at like 10pm at night 1075 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.059 like it's 3am in the morning I would stay awake 1076 00:47:31.619 --> 00:47:35.800 to watch that live as it went out every week 1077 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.760 and then like you know it ended up they made 1078 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.840 like five million seasons and then done spin-off shows called 1079 00:47:41.860 --> 00:47:43.809 like Through the Walking Dead and they done a Daryl 1080 00:47:43.829 --> 00:47:46.449 Dixon fucking spin-off and like after a certain amount of 1081 00:47:46.469 --> 00:47:49.219 time

after about four seasons I think I was like 1082 00:47:49.300 --> 00:47:51.599 I'm out I'm done this is too goofy now and 1083 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.960 it's gone all weird and creepy and there's like all 1084 00:47:53.980 --> 00:47:56.449 these different characters and then you're starting to bring in 1085 00:47:56.489 --> 00:47:58.909 all these relationships that like I'm like nah I feel 1086 00:47:58.929 --> 00:48:01.070 like you're just shoehorning that in well it's. 1087 00:48:00.949 --> 00:48:04.469 Almost like the American Horror Story it just gets weirder 1088 00:48:05.050 --> 00:48:08.530 and more bizarre kind of like in my opinion subversive 1089 00:48:08.570 --> 00:48:10.769 whether people want to take from that but like it 1090 00:48:10.809 --> 00:48:13.530 just is kind of like it's not like the earlier 1091 00:48:13.570 --> 00:48:16.090 seasons where it intrigued you It's almost like they're just 1092 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.269 trying to throw everything. Like they're trying to blend all 1093 00:48:18.289 --> 00:48:20.489 these different stories together. Like I found that one where 1094 00:48:20.510 --> 00:48:22.570 it was like the vampire kind of cult one. It 1095 00:48:22.590 --> 00:48:25.829 was like after the hotel, they got weird. And it's like, 1096 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:28.349 I don't know. And they're like, there was like a 1097 00:48:28.449 --> 00:48:31.070 singing part that was way too long at the beginning. 1098 00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:33.650 And I was like, what? Why are they doing this? 1099 00:48:33.889 --> 00:48:38.239 I didn't mind actually the coven one, whatever season that was. 1100 00:48:39.809 --> 00:48:41.489 I don't know how we actually got on the topic 1101 00:48:41.530 --> 00:48:42.780 of this as we were ending this episode. 1102 00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:44.829 Yeah, anyway, I was just saying when I was watching it. 1103 00:48:44.860 --> 00:48:48.159 It kind of explains how not so good this movie was, 1104 00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:48.860 I'll be honest. 1105 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.199 Well, there's not much to say. The story is very simple. 1106 00:48:52.579 --> 00:48:55.579 The ending is like a sixth sense twist, but the 1107 00:48:55.659 --> 00:48:58.280 in-between is like you'd have to break down the whole 1108 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.800 film to do an hour and a half podcast on 1109 00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:01.699 it because there's nothing. 1110 00:49:02.980 --> 00:49:05.360 Yeah, you would have to break down every piece of dialogue, 1111 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:06.960 every thing that they do. 1112 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.739 He gets in the cock chair. He wants to film 1113 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.570 her open the box. She opens the box. But is 1114 00:49:12.570 --> 00:49:14.340 he actually dead. 1115 00:49:13.949 --> 00:49:16.969 At that point? Yeah, it's hard to... I think I 1116 00:49:16.989 --> 00:49:19.699 think what happened was there was probably a decent story 1117 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.599 there and then obviously with studio interference and blah blah 1118 00:49:22.619 --> 00:49:24.239 blah and it's like we're doing this we're not doing 1119 00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:26.619 that we're adding scenes we're taking scenes away we're changing 1120 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:27.960 in the middle of the movie. 1121 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.860 I guess he wouldn't have been dead at that point 1122 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.400 because he gets her to open the box. That's what 1123 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.539 invites them in. They said that we were uninvited or whatever. 1124 00:49:34.579 --> 00:49:37.019 Yeah, it just becomes very confusing though because like even 1125 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.960 though I've watched it now multiple times, I'm still like, 1126 00:49:39.019 --> 00:49:42.760 I don't really get what the timeline as in what 1127 00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:45.309 fits in where, when, like when is he dead? When 1128 00:49:45.349 --> 00:49:47.389 is he alive? When is she alive? Is she dead? 1129 00:49:48.590 --> 00:49:51.369 What's going on? I still really kind of don't know. 1130 00:49:51.389 --> 00:49:54.750 You know what I'm going to get? I'm going to 1131 00:49:54.769 --> 00:49:56.510 get like a fart sound for like when we're going to. 1132 00:49:57.980 --> 00:50:00.900 I have to poop really bad i mean yeah you 1133 00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:03.659 could i always say it i always say it but 1134 00:50:03.699 --> 00:50:07.000 i love that thing that my that my mate that 1135 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.800 has the monster buzz podcast the cryptid one that segment 1136 00:50:10.820 --> 00:50:13.639 they would do where they had sighting or shiting i 1137 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.630 like i loved that so much. 1138 00:50:16.250 --> 00:50:18.269 Um i'm excited for some things we we might try 1139 00:50:18.329 --> 00:50:20.630 on my end and like some different stuff so we'll 1140 00:50:20.650 --> 00:50:22.429 see what happens but um. 1141 00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:25.409 What are we rating this time out of 10 Not 1142 00:50:25.469 --> 00:50:27.440 so good, I imagine. I think the last one, did 1143 00:50:27.460 --> 00:50:28.260 you give it a five? 1144 00:50:29.179 --> 00:50:31.800 Which was like generous. That was very generous of me. 1145 00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:34.800 I think I was like a 4.5. I was being 1146 00:50:34.860 --> 00:50:37.039 generous because I think there's something there. 1147 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.920 I feel like there's something worse coming here. 1148 00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:40.989 I'm going to give this a two. 1149 00:50:41.489 --> 00:50:44.190 I'm going to give this a four. And that's only 1150 00:50:44.250 --> 00:50:48.050 based off of any part where Pinhead talks. And if 1151 00:50:48.090 --> 00:50:52.289 he didn't have any of those seeds of dialogue... It 1152 00:50:52.309 --> 00:50:53.969 would have went up to a five if they had 1153 00:50:54.010 --> 00:50:56.920 left the eight minute scene with him and

Kirstie in it. 1154 00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:00.039 But yeah, and a four is me being super generous 1155 00:51:00.099 --> 00:51:00.380 as well. 1156 00:51:01.219 --> 00:51:02.780 Make a pop in each other's assholes. 1157 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.840 Pretty much. So yeah, if you've gotten this far, if 1158 00:51:07.860 --> 00:51:10.719 you've joined, you're wondering right now after looking at the 1159 00:51:10.780 --> 00:51:13.840 runtime at the start, you're going, ooh, they've done 55 1160 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.949 minutes on Hellseeker. That's really interesting. I can't wait to 1161 00:51:16.989 --> 00:51:19.650 hear all the cool stuff. And then now that you're 1162 00:51:19.710 --> 00:51:22.250 at the end, you're at 53 or 54 minutes and 1163 00:51:22.269 --> 00:51:26.449 you've realized that we've spent 25 minutes talking about unrelated topics. 1164 00:51:27.230 --> 00:51:30.429 And then the other 25 minutes, not really talking about 1165 00:51:30.489 --> 00:51:32.570 much of anything. 1166 00:51:32.909 --> 00:51:35.210 But that's the fun of the show, everybody. That's the 1167 00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:37.989 whole purpose of the show. Why not? You know, we're 1168 00:51:38.030 --> 00:51:38.929 human guys. 1169 00:51:38.989 --> 00:51:39.610 We're human. 1170 00:51:39.659 --> 00:51:43.019 Yeah. We're not going to be stagnant or like stale. 1171 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.159 We're not going to have the man tell us what 1172 00:51:45.179 --> 00:51:47.659 to talk about. The Weinstein's won't tell me what to do. 1173 00:51:48.269 --> 00:51:49.349 I'm not AI. 1174 00:51:49.889 --> 00:51:52.510 Yes, exactly. Because everything else is AI right now. 1175 00:51:53.070 --> 00:51:55.489 Yeah, it literally is. It's getting out of hand. 1176 00:51:55.650 --> 00:51:56.070 But yeah. 1177 00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:56.849 Support the show. 1178 00:51:56.909 --> 00:52:00.719 Support the show. Support Strange Brew. Follow us on socials. 1179 00:52:01.380 --> 00:52:04.880 It is getting into spooky season. We're right on the 1180 00:52:04.980 --> 00:52:07.619 cusp of spooky season. And if you have somebody in 1181 00:52:07.659 --> 00:52:10.340 your life who likes spooky season... Make sure to pick 1182 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:13.159 them up a copy of my book, Horror Hot Takes, please. 1183 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:14.610 It's too far away. I don't want to grab it. 1184 00:52:14.659 --> 00:52:17.840 It's on Amazon. It's in Barnes & Noble. It's on Kindle. 1185 00:52:17.900 --> 00:52:20.010 It's on lots of different places. 1186 00:52:20.030 --> 00:52:21.710 Support Aaron's book, please. 1187 00:52:21.730 --> 00:52:23.969 Search Horror Hot Takes. And to be honest with you, 1188 00:52:24.110 --> 00:52:26.110 I'll make no money from it, but it just makes 1189 00:52:26.150 --> 00:52:27.969 me feel good to know people have read my book 1190 00:52:28.010 --> 00:52:31.210 and think I'm garbage. So all good. 1191 00:52:31.230 --> 00:52:33.449 Jesus Christ. 1192 00:52:33.630 --> 00:52:36.179 All good, folks. Yeah, let us know your thoughts on 1193 00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:41.440 Hellseeker and keep an eye out because... This has seemed 1194 00:52:41.460 --> 00:52:43.860 to be pretty well received, so we're going to see 1195 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.610 it all the way through to the end, which we 1196 00:52:47.650 --> 00:52:48.449 can't wait for. 1197 00:52:48.469 --> 00:52:51.110 I hope everyone has a good Halloween, though, too, also. 1198 00:52:51.369 --> 00:52:54.530 Also, if I had a PlayStation 5, we could have 1199 00:52:54.570 --> 00:52:57.480 also done a little mini episode on the new Hellraiser game, 1200 00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.719 but I do not have a PS5, so we'll have 1201 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.320 to just take Tom's word for everything. 1202 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.920 I was telling everybody about how stupid you are for that. 1203 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.440 I know it's Thomas Falkner I know I was like oh. 1204 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.119 It could have been play like you never know you're 1205 00:53:10.139 --> 00:53:10.780 gonna have like. 1206 00:53:10.780 --> 00:53:16.889 Why hey guys hey everyone listening sponsor please donate to 1207 00:53:16.929 --> 00:53:25.340 my playstation fund for Christmas please $ 2 a day Between 1208 00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:29.980 now and December 25th Santa Claus can bring me a 1209 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.300 PS5 and a copy of Halloween Texas Chainsaw Massacre Hellraiser 1210 00:53:35.610 --> 00:53:39.210 Friday the 13th Oh it looks so good Silent Hill 1211 00:53:39.469 --> 00:53:42.050 F was fun And all the reviews for the Hellraiser 1212 00:53:42.070 --> 00:53:44.889 game have been amazing and apparently the game has done 1213 00:53:44.949 --> 00:53:47.320 so well now that they're talking about making a new 1214 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.050 Hellraiser movie with Clive Barker and stuff involved Wow. 1215 00:53:51.210 --> 00:53:52.699 Is Doug Bradley too old to come? 1216 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:55.059 I don't think so. Bring him back. I don't care. 1217 00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:55.559 Bring him back. 1218 00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:57.039 Use AI to make him look young. 1219 00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.380 Yeah. Bring back Robert Inglis. Do another Nightmare on Elm Street. 1220 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.059 He can be wheeled around in a fucking wheelchair. 1221 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.760 Let's do Freddy Krueger versus Pinhead. 1222 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.010 That actually would be sick. If someone could create that 1223 00:54:09.110 --> 00:54:11.530 AI one day, it would be fucking dope. Because there's 1224 00:54:11.550 --> 00:54:12.570 a possibility. Do it. 1225 00:54:12.989 --> 00:54:13.269 Do it. 1226 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.500 That would take forever though. It would take so long. 1227 00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:19.619 It's too long. I don't know how people deal with it. 1228 00:54:19.659 --> 00:54:21.739 Cause I've looked at the ones where I know people 1229

00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.880 are making like kind of movies and stuff with, and 1230 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:25.800 it's like, you have to pay for credits and it's like, 1231 00:54:25.820 --> 00:54:27.820 you get like maybe 30 seconds and you have to 1232 00:54:27.860 --> 00:54:28.500 like really. 1233 00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:31.800 30 seconds for like $ 800. Yeah. 1234 00:54:32.980 --> 00:54:35.480 It's very expensive too. And it's like, and you know, 1235 00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:37.360 we're using up all the water. They're going to build 1236 00:54:37.380 --> 00:54:40.119 data AI centers so we can all be enslaved. It's fun. 1237 00:54:40.219 --> 00:54:45.090 It's fine. So while you can, enjoy these conversations and 1238 00:54:46.050 --> 00:54:49.010 get your little DVDs and watch them while you can 1239 00:54:49.050 --> 00:54:51.380 because in a couple of years, it'll be a hellscape. 1240 00:54:51.409 --> 00:54:52.480 It'll be like Mad Max. 1241 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.380 Well, I keep saying that there's going to be a 1242 00:54:55.420 --> 00:55:02.250 cyber attack. It's like they keep just saying there's going 1243 00:55:02.269 --> 00:55:04.949 to be a cyber attack. I'm like, great. I have 1244 00:55:04.969 --> 00:55:07.210 to be like, I keep talking to them. Download all 1245 00:55:07.250 --> 00:55:09.250 the videos. Download all the videos so I have them 1246 00:55:09.269 --> 00:55:12.010 on my external drive in case the internet goes out. 1247 00:55:12.050 --> 00:55:13.849 I have to make sure I have all my content. 1248 00:55:13.889 --> 00:55:15.789 We'll never get to talk again if that happens. 1249 00:55:16.219 --> 00:55:17.900 You'll just have to get on one of those floaty boats. 1250 00:55:17.980 --> 00:55:20.050 Everybody else is going on, you know, and just show up. 1251 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.429 Oh God, we're going off the rails, folks. 1252 00:55:22.449 --> 00:55:24.989 I'm just kidding. We're going off the rails, guys. But 1253 00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:26.409 you know how long it would take you to get 1254 00:55:26.429 --> 00:55:27.010 to Canada? 1255 00:55:27.030 --> 00:55:29.329 I should have said goodbye at 52 minutes. 1256 00:55:29.730 --> 00:55:31.150 I told you, you should have. 1257 00:55:31.170 --> 00:55:32.389 Wow, we've gone off the rails. 1258 00:55:32.409 --> 00:55:33.889 No one's going to know what I'm talking about. 1259 00:55:34.090 --> 00:55:36.260 No, no, people are dumb as fuck. 1260 00:55:36.659 --> 00:55:40.059 Everyone floats on floaty rafts. Why wouldn't you, you know? 1261 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:40.679 Everybody. 1262 00:55:40.780 --> 00:55:44.679 I'm talking about the movie, The Castaway. Sure, sure. 1263 00:55:45.449 --> 00:55:48.110 Everybody, if you don't hear from me between now and Halloween, 1264 00:55:48.230 --> 00:55:50.969 I love you very much. And thanks for supporting the show. 1265 00:55:51.070 --> 00:55:54.130 I'm hoping to have something else out between now and then. 1266 00:55:54.150 -->

00:55:56.429 Do you want to end it on a theory about Castaway? 1267 00:55:56.630 --> 00:56:01.650 I'll be in America having fun at Howl-O-Scream and Halloween 1268 00:56:01.670 --> 00:56:03.690 Horror Nights and all those fun things. 1269 00:56:04.550 --> 00:56:07.030 What do you think Wilson represented on the ball? 1270 00:56:07.170 --> 00:56:07.829 I have no idea. 1271 00:56:08.849 --> 00:56:11.349 It's supposed to be a child's face that Hillary Clinton 1272 00:56:11.369 --> 00:56:11.750 cut off. 1273 00:56:12.409 --> 00:56:17.030 Great. Brilliant. So enjoy Hellraiser Hellseeker, everybody. 1274 00:56:17.269 --> 00:56:20.789 Well, that has to do it. It's very scary and spooky, right? Yes. 1275 00:56:21.590 --> 00:56:25.139 We wish you guys a happy Halloween. A Samhain. Happy Samhain. 1276 00:56:25.300 --> 00:56:28.039 Or as some people want to hear them say, Samhain. 1277 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.119 Samhain. Samhain. if you guys really want to hear an 1278 00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:34.119 interesting episode, uh, if you guys like Halloween stuff, I 1279 00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.480 did an episode with this guy, Ryan Gable, very interesting researcher. 1280 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.380 And we talked about the origins of Halloween and it's 1281 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.820 actually very like intellectual. If you could say that we're 1282 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.320 talking about where we get all these ideas from of 1283 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.900 like monsters and spooky things and where this comes from 1284 00:56:50.099 --> 00:56:52.460 a lot of the folklore. It was actually pretty interesting 1285 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.320 because this guy is a wealth of knowledge. So I 1286 00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:57.760 was interested to hear his perspective about what Halloween is 1287 00:56:57.820 --> 00:57:00.480 really the origins of it. So that's, Going to be 1288 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.039 out everywhere. So check it out if you want to 1289 00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:03.780 watch a Halloween. 1290 00:57:03.860 --> 00:57:06.659 Check it out, folks. I hope you enjoyed this episode. 1291 00:57:07.219 --> 00:57:11.219 Stay tuned for Hellraiser Deader, I think is the next one, 1292 00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.940 which probably gets even worse. I don't remember this one 1293 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.750 at all. So that'll be interesting. And yeah, we'll see 1294 00:57:16.849 --> 00:57:17.730 you on the other side. 1295 00:57:17.750 --> 00:57:18.969 Stay horny for horror. 1296 00:57:19.550 --> 00:57:19.989 Goodbye. 1297 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:31.280 Thanks for listening to another episode of Class Horrorcast. Stomp 1298 00:57:31.340 --> 00:57:38.280 the CHC podcast at classhorrorcast.com. At First Class Horror on Instagram, TikTok, 1299 00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:42.719 and YouTube. Or on Twitter at class underscore horror. 1300 00:57:42.739 --> 00:57:46.239 The CHC podcast is hosted and produced by Aaron Doyle. 1301 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.969 And is an FCH production.