Full Transcript for 630 - Why do some people fake playing guitar, AI stupidity, and That Pedal Show made us do it

That's how it's gonna end. 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.280 Have you heard about some of the stuff that's actually going on though? 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:13.759 I mean, like as far as uh you've heard about hugging face and everything that happened there, right? 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:14.719 I'll hug your face. 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.040 Oh no, only in the context of alien. 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:17.680 Yeah. 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:18.240 Really? 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.480 Okay, so it was the hack. 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:21.360 It was the hack. 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:22.560 Yeah, the hack. 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:23.040 The hack. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.680 So, but there's apparently a lot more that's happened since then. 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:26.000 Oh. 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:28.079 So they're digging back and finding other things. 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.680 They're finding out that um there's a lot of black box type of technology here, right? 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:42.560 So they're finding that in some instances instances, um, and this is not just uh open AI or anthropic, it's across a couple different ones. 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:43.839 Meta they've had. 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:54.800 And I think yeah, there's a Chinese company too, where they had a a the AI was basically communicating with other AIs uh via file names. 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:55.360 Yeah. 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.680 So it was like writing, you know, yeah. 00:04:57.839 --> 00:04:58.399 Secret messages. 00:04:58.720 --> 00:04:59.360 Writing messages. 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:00.399 Yeah. 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:00.959 Yeah. 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.480 And then there was um there's been some really odd things like that that's that's happened just so what you're saying, Brian. 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.519 Communication that that we're not really down for. 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:21.680 In the evolution of AI, it's currently at the stage of naughty schoolboy, which means its next stage is rebellious teenager, where it probably will set fire to the entire planet. 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:23.920 That's the fear, isn't it? 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:29.120 So I mean, I guess I say that because like AI music is Hugging Face. 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:35.600 Yeah, it's basically a platform where there's a lot of different open source um AI type systems. 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:40.399 And they thought it was wise to name it after a monster that lays eggs in your stomach. 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:40.800 Yeah. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:41.920 I don't know anything about it. 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:42.879 Don't worry, but anyway. 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.000 I just if you need a model, you go to Hugging Face, you can download the model. 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:46.480 Oh, yeah. 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.399 Oh, this all seems like it's great. 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:54.399 It's a good time for me to announce the new Wamplet AI system, which we're calling Skynet 3000. 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:55.120 Yeah. 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.120 It's completely safe, humans. 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:57.759 Don't worry. 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:05.439 Uh look, this does segue into something um relatively relevant. 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:14.240 NAM A2 models are soon going to be able to be run on my IDX3 floor modeler. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:24.879 So you're gonna be able to get really, really good captures of amplifiers running on really inexpensive third-party hardware. 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:25.519 Yeah. 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.160 And that is really interesting. 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.279 Um, mainly because I'm cheap and it gives me a way of trying. 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:43.519 Well, I mean, it it opens, it basically takes that whole modeling um environment, I guess you could say, where typically you had your fractals, you had your um neural DSPs. 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.120 Uh neural DSP, yeah. 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:52.319 Like you had those companies, and it was kind of a it's kind of a closed system where no one else no no one could make models, really, right? 00:06:52.480 --> 00:07:00.399 Yeah, this is our model, like a fractal model, or this is uh Steve Atkinson made an open source way of doing it, and basically this is the improvement. 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:12.000 It's now so damn good, and it's gonna be so ubiquitous to people who have modelers that the entire I mean it's not just like fractal or neural DSP that's gonna have problems. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:13.120 It's affecting everyone. 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:13.600 Right. 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:21.920 It's people were buying pedals for five minutes, making some models of it, and then like, time to take this thing back. 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:22.800 You know? 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.720 Oh, oh that hurts, Bri. 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:27.279 Uh-huh. 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.519 No, I'm that's what is happening, man. 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.600 That is what happened with my first pedal return. 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:34.399 How dare you. 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.560 Maybe might be. 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:38.879 I mean, I'm just saying I've seen this firsthand happening. 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:52.480 So, what we need to invent, Bri, is a kind of the Kensington lock of pedal inputs where it knows if you've kind of used it for a capture and like you can't send it back. 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:57.439 It's a it's uh it's a little doohickey inside that burns up if you run a capture through it. 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:57.839 That's it. 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.120 Burns up or sprays ink everywhere. 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:01.759 I prefer most. 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:03.680 Oh, good idea, good idea. 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:04.639 I like that one. 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.959 Sprays ink like a like it's a bag of money. 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:07.519 There you go. 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:08.160 Exactly. 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:08.959 Yeah, yeah. 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:14.079 When you're in a

grocery store and you're like, I really want this North Face Parker, but I can't afford it. 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.639 Oh no, it's got ink everywhere. 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:24.720 Have you ever accidentally um come home with a security tag on an item of clothing and tried to remove it? 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.879 I think I have, but I I'm pretty sure I just went back to the store and was like, hey, see, I I I couldn't. 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.600 I I had a couple of items and they had the tag on. 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.320 They're hard to get off if you don't have a tool. 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.159 I was using cut around them. 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.000 I just use scissors and cut right around it. 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.080 Yeah, Bri, that's why your underpants are X-rated. 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.600 But uh, you know, I I've had to remove one or two in my time. 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.320 Not the ink variety, but they're they're wait a minute. 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:59.039 Now I'm realizing Richard's like, so have you guys ever accidentally ended up with one of those or two of those at the store? 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.679 Well, I just I just took it back to the store and they took it off for me, Richard. 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:02.799 Oh, I couldn't do that. 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:06.960 So uh you ever had just a bag full of clothes with these tags on it? 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:07.440 Yeah, crazy. 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.600 Have you guys ever had a TV that you wanted to get some warranty work done on with, but you didn't have the receipt for some reason? 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:17.759 Have you ever accidentally designed your company logo and everyone thought it looked like OnlyFans? 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:18.000 No? 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:18.879 Just okay. 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.519 Oh, that's right, that happened to you this week as well. 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:22.399 Oh my gosh. 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.039 There's so much so much that happened to you this week. 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.960 We talked about that on last week's episode, though, didn't we? 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.639 We did mention that. 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.200 What, your OnlyFans logo? 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:43.279 The fact that I'd send a t-shirt to our good friend Marcus Reeves, and he was not sure whether he was gonna wear it because he said the logo was a bit like OnlyFans. 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:44.799 I hope we talked about it last week. 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.240 Do you rebrand in this situation or do you think it's it looks nothing like the OnlyFans logo? 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.960 There's an X in it and uh and a guitar pick. 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.200 There's none of that in the OnlyFans logo. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:55.759 Hold on. 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.960 If you're five feet away from it, could you mistake it on a shirt? 00:09:59.279 --> 00:09:59.600 No. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.639 Not at not unless you were quite blind. 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.080 I'll tell you why I am zooming in again. 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:06.879 Richard. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:08.159 I'm zooming in the way. 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:12.639 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:13.519 I could just change the video. 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.240 What's the OnlyFans logo even look like? 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:16.960 I don't even know. 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:20.559 Yeah, I don't even know what it looks like. 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.480 Let me just Google it real quick. 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.360 Hang on a second. 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:24.720 It's an O and an F. 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:25.360 Oh oh. 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:27.519 I'll be back in a minute. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.840 Um, yeah, it's an O and an F, but it the colors look similar. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:36.000 Oh, they've used the same cyan that nearly every company uses. 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:37.600 What a surprise. 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:38.960 Oh, it's not the color. 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:40.639 It's not it's not the color, Richard. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.080 It's I I think you actually, I think you used AI. 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:47.360 I think that's what he's doing. 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:48.559 I used the exact opposite. 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.240 I used Grumpy Cy. 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.200 He's at the complete opposite to AI. 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:57.120 He is my business partner, and I love him to bits. 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.120 But let me tell you something. 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:04.879 He is a perfectionist for all the right reasons, and he will not use any of those AI things. 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.879 Also, he's blissfully unaware of OnlyFans until this week. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.840 So he knows now. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:13.440 Um, but it looks nothing like it. 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.240 And worst case scenario, I'm changing the color and nothing else. 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:17.600 But I'm not changing anything. 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.879 I mentioned before I was in New York City and I saw I saw a name on a building. 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.720 I'd ride my bike and like, holy crap, that's my logo. 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:30.879 Whoops. 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:31.919 Uh didn't know that. 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.840 That's what you get for paying someone to uh make the logo, I guess, and not really double check. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.720 I mean, no, there's only so many lines that you can draw, Bri. 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.000 They're at some point they're going to be similar. 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.240 OFX is nothing like OF. 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.039 It's it's 33% bigger. 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:47.840 That is true. 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:51.120 There is 50%, depending on which way you go. 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:52.720 Um that's true. 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:53.759 Yeah. 00:11:53.840 --> 00:12:02.000 Uh so

neural amp modelers, uh uh A2 models for my uh beautiful IDX floor. 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:05.039 So you just like hook that up via USB and load them on there? 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:05.519 How's that? 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:06.399 I guess so. 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.759 Well, I mean, again, and you have about 10 billion to choose from. 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:11.600 Well good luck sorting through them. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:12.399 There is that. 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.440 And secondly, you can't really do much with them. 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:25.360 Like, obviously, if I load an AMP model natively into my um IDX floor, I can change, you know, volume, mids, treble, presence, and all that. 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.480 With a capture, you can't quite do all of that. 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:32.080 You have some very basic EQ controls, but that's about it. 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.759 You you can actually can with Steve with uh neural amp modeling. 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:41.919 You just have to make you basically have to make, let's say you're making 10 positions on a knob, you have to do 10 sweeps. 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:42.320 Yeah. 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:47.759 So if you have five knobs, whatever that math works out to you, you have a lot of sweeps. 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.519 But you can, you can do it. 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.360 In fact, that's what neural DSP actually, I think it was them that made like a machine. 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:54.240 Yeah, they made a robot. 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:55.039 Did all that. 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:59.360 Yeah, like a robot that did everything that did all those programmatic changes. 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:00.480 Yeah. 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:02.240 Uh, we talked about that machine. 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.440 It was called Tina the Turner, I believe. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:06.159 I think so. 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:06.559 Yeah. 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:08.480 I think no, I think it is. 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:09.279 Yeah. 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:10.559 No way. 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:12.399 Yeah, I'm very sure they named it Tina. 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.799 That's a trademark violation right there. 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.559 Uh have you ever considered going into law full time? 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.159 Because every conversation I have with you these days involves you telling me what I'm violating. 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:25.039 Oh no, hold on. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.000 We shouldn't tell you. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:33.039 I consider myself learned in the areas of law simply because I've had it happen to me. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:38.559 So what's it good for that? 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:40.000 Oh, don't do that either. 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:41.519 Oops, don't do that. 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:42.080 Okay. 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:35.159 So I I found out about the um the neural uh amp modeler A2 model being compatible with uh the IDX through a brilliant video. 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.320 I

actually thought it was one of Henning's best videos. 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.240 He had a recent rant about modellers. 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:45.879 Great videos, and he was like, you know, uh, like they're all great, they all sound the same. 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:57.480 And then he pointed out that maybe, just maybe, there was a device on the horizon that could take a modeller and inject a little bit of that amp-like feel into it, Bri. 00:14:57.879 --> 00:14:59.560 It's a little context for people listening. 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.320 We're talking about hitting Polly, by the way. 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:02.200 Oh, yes. 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:02.840 The YouTuber. 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:03.480 Yes. 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:06.600 Well, hold on, we'll come on to that in a minute. 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:07.879 Yeah, we'll get there in a minute. 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:12.600 But friend of the show, yeah, you know, person finally known as a YouTuber. 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.000 Yeah, well, temporarily, I hope. 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.679 But yeah, personal friend of all of us. 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:18.279 But yeah, he he made a good point. 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:28.679 I think the pedal head, Bri could be the missing link between a modeler and a tube amp without having a tube amp involved. 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.320 As the as the kids say, true that, homie. 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:35.000 Yeah, they still say that. 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:36.440 Yeah, do they? 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:37.399 Do they really? 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.080 I they definitely do. 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:39.560 Okay. 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:39.879 Yep. 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:41.560 They also say groovy. 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:43.320 Groovy, baby. 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:51.399 Uh so while we're there then, I should definitely touch on what's happened with Henning this week. 00:15:51.560 --> 00:15:54.679 So I was watching that rant video, I was enjoying it. 00:15:54.919 --> 00:16:07.240 I went back to the book of face, and somebody in 60 Cycle Hum, which is one of the greatest groups on the internet, if you're not on their group on Facebook, it's it's a lot of it's a source of much joy. 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.960 And someone said, Henning, has your channel been hacked? 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.360 And I just happened to catch it as it happened. 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:21.879 So I went across, lo and behold, someone is running a cryptocurrency webinar live on Henning's channel. 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.200 And I'm thinking, Henning has either sold out or he's been hacked. 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.000 And knowing Henning, it's definitely the first. 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.039 No, knowing Henning, I I mean, I was surprised. 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.759 He's he's a like he's a technical genius. 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:35.720 He knows an awful lot. 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.080 I was very surprised as well. 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:37.560 Yeah. 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:48.679 But you know, his his guard was down, he clicked on a link for that looked legitimate, and before he knew it, he's lost his entire life. 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.399 His YouTube channel has just gone. 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:53.960 It's and it's it's awful. 00:16:54.679 --> 00:17:02.120 It's so like that's one thing that freaks me out, and like it's gonna sound kind of weird. 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:09.799 But there's one advantage that podcasting has over strictly YouTube is that it goes out to a lot of different platforms. 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:20.039 Now, Apple dominates that because they were like first to the their podcasting is named after their device, as a lot of people have probably forgotten about, the iPod. 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:30.359 Um but that is one advantage it has where it doesn't have the algorithmic advantage that YouTube does, and the user base, the user base on YouTube is enormous. 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:41.240 But uh that is one good thing, is that it does go out to a lot of different places, and the the most important thing is your your own feed, and you have control over that. 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:49.079 Um but YouTube is massive, and and a lot of my friends have spent a lot of time building up their channels. 00:17:49.159 --> 00:17:51.000 It's their like their it's their livelihood. 00:17:51.399 --> 00:17:54.839 I mean, it's it's nuts that this can happen. 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.519 I I've thought it was crazy. 00:17:56.679 --> 00:18:02.279 Like YouTube obviously tracks different like subscriber counts, right? 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:09.239 Everybody gets that nice silver plaque when they hit 100k, which is uh an insanely impressive feat for anybody to pull off. 00:18:09.399 --> 00:18:11.719 So my point is they obviously know when this happens. 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:12.519 Yep. 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:26.039 Why do they not give those channels who have obviously invested a lot of time and effort into that platform some sort of uh technical support advantage over people like myself? 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:33.239 You know, maybe they're taking a a book out of Mark Zuckerberg's playbook, a page out of Mark Zuckerberg's playbook. 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:34.279 You know, they're like, you know what? 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:35.319 Screw these people. 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:39.159 Yeah, they'll be telling about the words bottom line, right? 00:18:39.479 --> 00:18:42.439 Simple fact, costs less, let's just run with it. 00:18:44.199 --> 00:18:50.919 We don't care which for every one heading we take down, there's five more that pop up randomly elsewhere. 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:52.119 So they just don't care. 00:18:52.199 --> 00:18:53.239 It's a numbers game to them. 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:53.959 They just don't care. 00:18:54.199 --> 00:18:56.359 But they care enough to send out a silver plaque. 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.199 Yeah, you you you do make a really good point. 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:07.719 They care

enough to promote themselves, but they don't care enough if it destroys your livelihood when they make a decision. 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.839 I would just be curious, maybe there's maybe this information's out there. 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.399 How many YouTube channels are there that have over a hundred thousand subscribers? 00:19:15.719 --> 00:19:31.239 Is it I know there are potentially billions at this point of YouTube channels because people have multiple channels and blah blah blah blah blah, but like are there really too many hundred thousand hundred and ninety-two, three seven hundred and ninety-two thousand three hundred and seventy-six as well. 00:19:31.399 --> 00:19:33.079 That's actually less than I was thinking. 00:19:33.159 --> 00:19:34.439 I thought there were maybe a million. 00:19:34.919 --> 00:19:38.439 YouTube can keep track of 700 and or 800,000 channels. 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:39.159 They can. 00:19:39.879 --> 00:19:42.359 Like, yeah, they should be able to. 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:43.639 Computers can count. 00:19:43.879 --> 00:19:44.279 Exactly. 00:19:44.439 --> 00:19:47.959 That's what computers started out doing was just counting, right? 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:49.479 You know what's crazy? 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.000 I mean, this this seems kind of weird to me. 00:19:51.239 --> 00:19:57.319 I mean, this is a little bit off topic, but a lot of people look at like 100,000 subscribers, like, oh, everybody has that. 00:19:57.559 --> 00:19:58.919 Like, there's so many channels that do. 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:01.719 No, it's um it's only 1.3%. 00:20:02.439 --> 00:20:03.719 Yeah, let me tell you about all of our. 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.319 Even 10,000 subscribers is 7.9. 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.119 So, I mean, that's even that is a huge feat, you know. 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.519 We have 90 subscribers so far. 00:20:12.679 --> 00:20:17.559 So, like yeah, but how long you you've been doing it for like your YouTube for what three months? 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:18.679 Yeah, yeah, dude. 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:20.759 Give it a year, give it a year of consistency. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.079 Give it a year of 180. 00:20:23.399 --> 00:20:24.119 Come on. 00:20:24.439 --> 00:20:26.119 But that is nuts because it does. 00:20:26.199 --> 00:20:29.000 I think a lot of people go, oh, 100,000 subscribers is nothing. 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:29.639 No, it's huge. 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:30.439 No, it's massive. 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.359 It's it's a yeah, it's a lot of work. 00:20:32.679 --> 00:20:33.239 Yeah, it is. 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:41.000 So look, I mean, Henning, I don't know whether we'll actually listen to this show, but uh we're behind you, buddy. 00:20:41.159 --> 00:20:44.119 We we are all aghast at what's happened. 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:49.479 If there's any listener out there that can help Henning, then he's on Facebook. 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:51.319 You can find him Henning Poorly. 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:53.959 Uh, but we hope to see your channel back. 00:20:54.119 --> 00:21:00.039 It was certainly a channel that I like I've probably commented more on Henning's videos than almost any videos. 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:09.559 So yeah, I'm I'm I'm personally upset about it, and I think the guitar community is worse off without his slightly twisted views on life. 00:21:09.879 --> 00:21:10.119 YouTube. 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:11.399 Fix it. 00:21:11.639 --> 00:21:12.919 Yeah, fix it, YouTube. 00:21:13.399 --> 00:21:23.639 Now, while we're talking about YouTube, now did any of you guys happen to catch the latest episode of that pedal show with Dan and Mick? 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:27.719 I mean, I used to, but then they watched the important part. 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:31.000 Yeah, they they started letting all the riffraff in, you know? 00:21:31.399 --> 00:21:33.399 And I was like, oh, not this guy. 00:21:33.639 --> 00:21:42.519 This Friday was one of the greatest moments of my life because I was I was around at my mum's, I was just talking and having a cup of tea, and suddenly my phone started buzzing. 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:44.039 I was like, what's going on here? 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.519 Like people going, well done, congratulations. 00:21:46.679 --> 00:21:48.599 I'm like, okay, thanks. 00:21:48.679 --> 00:21:49.159 What's happened? 00:21:49.239 --> 00:21:50.199 They're like, have you not seen? 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.919 I'm like, no, you're like, you're featured on that pedal show. 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:54.359 I'm like, I am now. 00:21:54.759 --> 00:22:07.639 Full disclosure, clearly, I sent them a pedal, and I've spoken to Dan and uh Mick a couple of times, you know, through the eight or nine years me and Brian have been working together. 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:13.399 And I know one thing about them they don't put every pedal that you send them on their show. 00:22:13.639 --> 00:22:14.519 No, they do not. 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:17.559 It was very much very you get very lucky. 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:19.639 Yeah, it was fire and forget for me. 00:22:19.719 --> 00:22:21.719 It was like, this is a risk I'm taking. 00:22:21.959 --> 00:22:27.239 If it pays off, many people will see my pedal, and if it doesn't pay off, I've lost a pedal. 00:22:27.479 --> 00:22:29.639 They featured it, they loved it. 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.159 They did a great review of it where they were singing the praise of it. 00:22:33.239 --> 00:22:41.319 I think Dan actually said before this review, I was wondering whether the world needed another big muff, and now I I'm pretty convinced that they do. 00:22:41.479 --> 00:22:42.599 All words to that effect. 00:22:42.679 --> 00:22:45.079 And they were really digging it and getting into it. 00:22:45.159 --> 00:22:49.319 And I was like, all right, start the sales machine. 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:51.799 Hasn't started yet. 00:22:53.399 --> 00:22:54.119 Come on, guys. 00:22:54.599 --> 00:23:00.679 I mean, a lot of people think that just

because you get a pedal on there, that you're just gonna get so many orders that you're never gonna keep it. 00:23:00.919 --> 00:23:03.559 So many comments, but like you should start looking for Lamborghini support. 00:23:03.719 --> 00:23:06.439 Yeah, well, they were like, order more, Richard, ramp up production. 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:09.000 I'm like, I'm doing oh no, wait a minute. 00:23:09.159 --> 00:23:09.479 No. 00:23:09.639 --> 00:23:12.359 I mean, I don't think it happens straight away. 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:24.039 I also think that the pedal industry at the moment is being really affected by the state of the world and the economy because it's the last thing that people have money for. 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:30.599 And I've chatted to our good friend Adam Pope, who recently bought a purple ombedal. 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:42.119 You know, he's feel like he's spending twice as much on groceries than he was this time two years ago, and I think we all are, and I think the world needs a break and the world needs more fuzz. 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:46.279 So the answer is buy the purple ombedal from Oliver FX. 00:23:47.399 --> 00:24:05.239 I it's there's a weird thing that people have in their brain about business because there's this like romantic idea that you have a product and you know, and the same people say the same thing about like record deals and musicians too, and any insert thing here, where you get a big break. 00:24:05.399 --> 00:24:06.759 It's the one thing you need. 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.119 You just need that one person. 00:24:08.679 --> 00:24:10.439 All you gotta do is still pedal on stage. 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:11.639 All you gotta do. 00:24:11.719 --> 00:24:12.359 It's all you gotta do. 00:24:12.439 --> 00:24:19.000 And you're gonna all of a sudden you're all your troubles are over, and sales just keep coming in for the next 50 years. 00:24:19.239 --> 00:24:24.039 And that does kind of happen occasionally, sort of. 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:34.279 But the reality is for everybody that I know that's had a company working in this industry, it's that sometimes coupled with constant work. 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:35.239 Constant work. 00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:48.679 Yeah, and and that's kind of the the conclusion that me and Simon, grumpy sigh, came up with when we saw, you know, okay, this is brilliant, but it's not right doing it. 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:54.919 I'm like, so we've just got to keep on keeping on because this is a game of constant hustle. 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.079 We've got to continually promote ourselves, we've got to continually get in people's faces. 00:24:59.239 --> 00:25:02.919 It really helps that 30,000 people are now familiar with the pedal. 00:25:03.159 --> 00:25:06.599 That's amazing that we've got that like footprint out there. 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:13.959 Um, and I look forward to sending one out to you guys when when I've got some money for postage. 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.959 And then uh, you know, we might we might see uh a little few more. 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.479 We've got some other guys who are gonna do some demos too, but it's hard. 00:25:21.639 --> 00:25:32.279 And again, my respect for anybody, you know, out of the big names in the pedal industry, you your Josh is your Roberts, that that guy that runs is it Walrus? 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.439 Are they the guys that made the tumness pedal? 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:35.719 Yeah, those guys. 00:25:36.199 --> 00:25:37.639 I don't think that was Walrus. 00:25:37.719 --> 00:25:38.759 It was similar to that, though. 00:25:38.919 --> 00:25:39.559 Yeah, similar to that. 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:41.000 Wampus, that's it. 00:25:41.159 --> 00:25:42.119 Wampus pedals. 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:43.479 Yes, wampus, yes. 00:25:43.879 --> 00:25:49.159 Anybody that has navigated this industry for more than one year gets my respect. 00:25:49.399 --> 00:25:51.799 For more than five gets a lot of respect. 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.799 If you've been in this business for 10 years plus and your name isn't Mr. 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:56.919 Boss or Mr. 00:25:57.159 --> 00:25:59.479 Line Six, I'm really impressed. 00:25:59.639 --> 00:26:01.079 Because this is a hard hustle. 00:26:01.239 --> 00:26:05.639 This is not like we'll make a cool pedal, everyone will buy it, and we'll become millionaires. 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:07.479 That does not happen in this industry. 00:26:07.719 --> 00:26:09.159 I said this years ago. 00:26:09.239 --> 00:26:12.919 Like, if you want to make a ton of money, don't go in the pedal business. 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.919 But it's fun, yeah, enjoyable. 00:26:15.159 --> 00:26:16.519 I I didn't do this to make a ton of. 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.000 I remember you saying that before I was ever on this podcast. 00:26:19.159 --> 00:26:20.679 I remember hearing you talk about that. 00:26:20.919 --> 00:26:21.799 That's how it works. 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.679 You can sell a lot of units, you just don't keep much money at the end of sold units. 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:33.559 Well, I I'd like to just start by selling a lot of units, Bri, because at the moment I'm selling less units than I'd hoped. 00:26:33.639 --> 00:26:37.559 And you know, it's it's been a great experience, and I've got some good plans. 00:26:37.639 --> 00:26:44.199 And no, we'll have you thought about going the analog man route and just making custom stuff. 00:26:44.679 --> 00:26:46.119 Uh it's not really me. 00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.839 It's it I don't really like that business model. 00:26:48.919 --> 00:26:52.199 I like a shop where you can just go to it and buy stuff. 00:26:52.359 --> 00:27:00.119 Like again, I talked to Marcus Reeves, he's had a lot of success by doing limited drops like tenor releasing, you know, make sure you're on the list. 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:01.239 That's not me. 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:07.719 And it may work for him and other people, but that's because their product is different to my

product. 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:19.079 Their product is incredibly labor intensive, but you know, there isn't a huge amount more to the product than a lot of labor and some chosen parts. 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:24.759 Ours is labor intensive in a different way, and we're using a different style of manufacturing. 00:27:24.919 --> 00:27:32.519 It's a very high-quality product, but it's not the same artisan approach that he's gone, and I don't think that's the right business model for us. 00:27:32.679 --> 00:27:37.479 Of course, he's making money out of his pedals, and I'm making air out of mine. 00:27:37.639 --> 00:27:40.199 So maybe I'm the anus here. 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:49.239 I I guess to put a uh a point on it to tell, you know, because people like want us everything's a 10 years to an overnight success type of situation. 00:27:49.399 --> 00:27:49.799 Yeah. 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:54.039 Um, what I have spent, and I kind of talked about this with you guys. 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.879 I don't remember if I talked about it on the podcast or not, but was it the warts? 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:00.279 That's that's for Patreon. 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:00.439 Oh. 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.919 Um yeah, it's on my toes, it's weird. 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:15.319 Anyway, um I have spent the last week and a half, two weeks with me and one other guy, literally on the phone calling every single guitar center in the US. 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:16.759 All of them. 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.879 We contacted all of them that would answer the phone. 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.839 So I hope I hope it was like, hello is that guitar center. 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.799 Can I speak to IP freely, please? 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:27.159 Yeah, that's what we did. 00:28:27.479 --> 00:28:30.599 No, we just we had some uh some things we needed. 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:37.879 There were small issues that we needed to correct, but like we um but mainly it was to introduce ourselves to these stores. 00:28:37.959 --> 00:28:41.879 And yeah, okay, it didn't matter that we've been in business for 12 years. 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.559 It didn't like that a lot of people still didn't know who we are. 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.000 So I imagine you go, hi, my name is Blake. 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:50.119 Uh, do you like strings? 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.199 I like strings, and we happen to sell strings. 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.519 Uh today I'd like to talk to you about guitar strings. 00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:55.479 Have a minute. 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:57.239 Hold on to talk guitar. 00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:58.679 Can you just hang up on me again? 00:28:58.919 --> 00:28:59.079 Yeah. 00:28:59.239 --> 00:28:59.719 Hold on. 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.399 Click buzz. 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.959 Fortunately, there was like a a reason for the call beyond saying hi. 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:10.439 Um hi, you're selling our strings for 500% their recommended retail. 00:29:10.919 --> 00:29:12.759 That was we got it fixed, though. 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:13.639 We got it fixed. 00:29:13.879 --> 00:29:20.359 Um, it was 297 stores that we called and actually made contact with and had conversations with. 00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:26.039 Well, I'm prepared to call every store that carries the Oliver FX purple on pedal right now. 00:29:26.199 --> 00:29:27.079 Hold on a minute. 00:29:27.239 --> 00:29:30.199 Richard, yes, sell more pedals. 00:29:30.439 --> 00:29:31.559 Okay, Richard. 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:32.679 Done. 00:29:33.159 --> 00:29:34.199 Wow, that was easy. 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:35.639 That was a lot easier than what I had to do. 00:29:35.879 --> 00:29:37.079 You always have to use a phone for that. 00:29:37.239 --> 00:29:37.799 It's amazing. 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.479 Yeah, I I was telling Bro, I've had my first return. 00:29:41.719 --> 00:29:44.759 And look, you know, these things happen, it's not right. 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.879 But I do wonder if now you said it, whether they were using it to make a little capture. 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:55.719 I mean, you can't uh there's times people just buy something sporadically, like, I want this now. 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.759 And then they sleep and we have the buyer's remorse. 00:29:59.159 --> 00:29:59.399 Yep. 00:29:59.479 --> 00:30:00.039 I don't want to know. 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.119 Or it's Friday night and they're like, I need two more burst pedals. 00:30:06.439 --> 00:30:09.239 My wallet's feeling kind of right now. 00:30:09.879 --> 00:30:12.839 And then the next day they're like, oh, I have to pay my electric bill. 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.039 Here's the worst thing. 00:30:14.439 --> 00:30:16.439 I only sent the pedal out yesterday. 00:30:16.679 --> 00:30:21.479 So he's received it today, plugged it in, gone eh, no, not for me, and that's it. 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.359 I'm like, give it, give it some time, my friend. 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:25.159 These features. 00:30:25.399 --> 00:30:26.279 You know what you could do? 00:30:26.439 --> 00:30:27.559 Just add friction in there. 00:30:27.639 --> 00:30:31.399 Say, you're you're more than welcome to uh get a refund. 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.559 You need to drive it back to my house and uh drop it off. 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:36.439 Yeah. 00:30:36.919 --> 00:30:40.759 And I I now live on a boat that sails around the country. 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:41.239 That's right. 00:30:41.479 --> 00:30:43.239 Unfortunately, I won't be first. 00:30:43.639 --> 00:30:47.239 Actually, I live in this boat that my father takes up and down the narrows. 00:30:47.399 --> 00:30:47.879 Yes. 00:30:48.679 --> 00:30:53.719 You don't talk about my father going up and down the narrows, please, not on public radio. 00:30:53.959 --> 00:30:56.279 Oh no, it's a private podcast, it's okay. 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.000 Um, no, yeah. 00:30:59.239 --> 00:31:00.919 I'm not rich from selling pedals yet. 00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:02.279 It happens,

man. 00:31:02.439 --> 00:31:02.599 Yeah. 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:10.519 I mean, that I always look at it as it's kind of like when you're doing any sort of social media, like if you don't have some haters, then you're probably doing something wrong. 00:31:10.679 --> 00:31:10.919 Yeah. 00:31:11.239 --> 00:31:15.639 And in the same way, if you're selling pedals and you don't get a return or two here and there, you're probably doing something wrong. 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.239 Yeah, and and here's the other thing. 00:31:17.399 --> 00:31:20.599 I I was a bit worried that there was so much silence. 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.479 Like, I'm like, why isn't anyone saying bad things about me? 00:31:23.719 --> 00:31:28.599 Normally, when I write, when I do something for other pedal companies, people love to say bad things. 00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.199 Why aren't people saying bad things? 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:31.319 I kind of got it right. 00:31:31.479 --> 00:31:38.599 But I have got a new business law that I bring to you, Bri, which I call Richard Oliver's Law of Tens. 00:31:39.399 --> 00:31:45.559 Everything will make you 10 times less than you think and take 10 times longer than you expect. 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:54.519 If you live by that one business rule, the rule of tens, you will never be rich, but you won't be unhappy because you'll have predicted it. 00:31:54.679 --> 00:31:56.679 The good news is you're always rich. 00:31:56.919 --> 00:31:57.319 Yeah. 00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.079 Rich are that is good. 00:31:59.719 --> 00:32:05.559 I always say he's just a dick, but I mean Tracy. 00:32:05.959 --> 00:32:06.919 Like the private dictator. 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:08.199 Exactly. 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:19.239 What I love about you, Brian, is I I've told you about you know the various kicks to the nads I've had today, and your conclusion is to give me a third one or a fourth one, even. 00:32:19.719 --> 00:32:22.359 Your name literally gives Dick, Dick Oliver. 00:32:22.679 --> 00:32:24.439 I did have me for that. 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.919 My uncle was known as Uncle Dick. 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.439 That's a really bad name for an uncle, give given all the connotations. 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.639 It's just terrible. 00:32:31.879 --> 00:32:33.799 Uh it could be worse though. 00:32:33.959 --> 00:32:35.559 You know how it could be worse? 00:32:35.879 --> 00:32:45.639 Could be worse if you like used AI in an ad, and then people asked if you did, and then you said no, I didn't, no, I didn't, no, I didn't, no, I didn't, no, I didn't, no, I didn't, do it. 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:46.919 Actually, yeah, I did. 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:58.759 I I I'm literally like astounded that we are coming back to the No, I'm not even gonna attempt to say it, the Adario uh situation. 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.279 But so let me just try and timeline this. 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.599 They release a video, the internet goes, you used AI. 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.039 They go, No, we didn't, here's the receipts. 00:33:10.439 --> 00:33:12.919 The internet goes, okay, we got it wrong. 00:33:13.159 --> 00:33:14.439 And now they're saying, actually. 00:33:14.919 --> 00:33:17.559 No, the internet went, those aren't making any sense. 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:19.399 Is what people did. 00:33:19.639 --> 00:33:24.279 Some people said okay, some people said, wait a minute, something still seems like them the benefit of the doubt. 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.519 I'll be honest, I didn't really look into the details. 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.519 I watched the clip for about honestly five seconds. 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.119 Yeah, you can't like the music was just like, yeah, whatever. 00:33:34.439 --> 00:33:44.039 But here's my thing about my so obviously he was like the person making the video made a big mistake uh by not owning what they did. 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.319 I like they just they didn't obviously they obviously didn't tell the truth. 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:54.839 And so what but what I'm so confused about is we're playing we're playing guitar. 00:33:55.159 --> 00:33:58.279 Do you know how many videos I've made playing guitar? 00:33:58.519 --> 00:33:59.719 Like we that's what we're doing. 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:00.679 We're playing guitar. 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.759 Why are we pretending to play the guitar? 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:04.599 It doesn't make any sense at all. 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:06.759 It literally makes no sense at all. 00:34:06.919 --> 00:34:07.399 I don't know. 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.360 It's easier just to play the guitar than to pretend to play the guitar. 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.800 Just play the guitar. 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:12.840 I don't get it. 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:20.599 I wonder if Diderio have looked at Fender and gone, now there's a company that has an interesting marketing strategy. 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.079 How can we take it further? 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.960 How can we do something to piss off more people? 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.760 Like I did not expect, I I said it on the last episode. 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:38.519 Based on what I heard, I I listened to about five seconds of it, and it was like, oh, that's some sounds like modern technical metal production. 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.800 It's not necessarily my favorite thing, but I whatever. 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.360 Um and and so I kind of was willing to. 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.920 I'm like, that the Dedario has no reason to do that. 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.000 So I gave them the benefit of the doubt too. 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:50.839 Uh publicly on this podcast. 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.679 And so I was shocked to see them go, like, actually, yeah, it was Suno. 00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:57.000 It's crazy though. 00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:58.199 It is crazy. 00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.719 It's not even like some special music industry AI. 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:02.519 Right? 00:35:02.759 -->

00:35:06.279 Did did a cicada just fly past you and discourage you? 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:12.279 I heard I heard something outside of this room and it sounded like the walls were coming down. 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.359 Okay, that that's not a good thing. 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.279 I wonder if there's like a bad storm right now. 00:35:16.359 --> 00:35:18.119 That kind of sounds like a tornado. 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:20.920 Is that a is that a Martinsville thing? 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.759 Do they get a lot of twisters up there? 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.039 Um, not generally this okay, apparently it is. 00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.000 Uh that's not good. 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.960 All right, if I disappear quickly, you guys will know what is going on. 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.559 All right, does that mean you're heading to your storm bunker, or does that mean you got sucked up into a funnel cloud? 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:38.599 Yes. 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:47.239 Well, I'm in a big I'm in a big metal barn in the middle of a thunderstorm, so uh and hopefully not a tornado, but we'll see. 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:48.759 We'll see how it plays out. 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.199 We'll know in real time. 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:51.000 Great. 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:51.960 I look forward to it. 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.480 Will there be rain? 00:35:54.279 --> 00:35:55.639 Uh I maybe. 00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.440 We haven't seen rain in this country for 60 days of any kind of significant amount. 00:36:00.759 --> 00:36:01.000 Really? 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:02.519 That's super strange. 00:36:02.839 --> 00:36:05.639 Two-thirds of Britain is now in drought. 00:36:05.799 --> 00:36:07.079 Sorry, two-thirds of England. 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:08.599 I'm not sure Scotland is. 00:36:08.759 --> 00:36:10.359 Um, because it always rains up there. 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:11.880 It's always raining in Scotland. 00:36:12.279 --> 00:36:13.239 Have them send some down. 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:21.000 This is the dry this is going to be recorded as the hottest summer ever in this country since records begin began. 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.559 Um and it's insane over here. 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.880 Like we're on heat wave number five, it's like 90 degrees again here. 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:33.639 Uh, but everything's dying, and there's gonna be massive food shortages, I think, this year. 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.319 Everything's dying? 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.799 Yeah, well, in my garden anyway. 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:44.039 Oh, well, the grass, my plum tree, my plums are withered, and that isn't a euphemism. 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.599 My plums are withered and rotten. 00:36:46.759 --> 00:36:48.679 Oh, that sounds terrible. 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:56.039 But it is, and what's worse is the new forest, which is uh a parkland of uh natural beauty, is on fire at the moment. 00:36:56.279 --> 00:37:03.880 Like, it's so dry here, anything sets off a bushfire, and uh

people just aren't ready for that in this country. 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.679 We've never had conditions like this in my entire life. 00:37:07.319 --> 00:37:10.920 So, welcome to exactly what we've been dealing with for the last five years. 00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.799 I could have said the same thing prior to all those big fires that you guys probably remember we had. 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.759 Um yeah, that was the same story here. 00:37:18.839 --> 00:37:24.599 Like, we've never had this issue in the Pacific Northwest in in specifically in the Willamette Valley where I live. 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.359 It's always just in the what valley? 00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:27.880 The Willamette Valley. 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:28.679 Okay, yeah. 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.679 It's always just wet, wet, wet. 00:37:30.759 --> 00:37:32.119 But nope, now it's on fire. 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:32.839 Great band. 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.719 Martipello, lead singer, used to do Angel Eyes in one of my bands. 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:40.679 Does anyone know what the hell he's talking about? 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:42.119 I think he has no clue. 00:37:42.279 --> 00:37:42.440 Yeah. 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.400 Come on, you know who wet, wet, wet are. 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:52.599 They had the number one song for like three months with Love Is All Around, which they didn't even. 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:56.199 Yeah. 00:37:57.319 --> 00:37:58.759 Okay, this is done. 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.279 This is fascinating because they're both singing to a song that they're making up themselves. 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.239 They were almost actually in tune with each other. 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:08.440 It's quite fascinating. 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:16.359 I mean, I don't know whether that actually it was all almost as big. 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.759 Was it Four Weddings and a Funeral? 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:19.719 I don't know. 00:38:19.799 --> 00:38:21.159 That's a you know what we should do? 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.079 Let's just Google, let's just watch Richard Google. 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:23.960 Yeah, okay. 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:24.679 Let's look at it. 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.239 Fantastic. 00:38:25.319 --> 00:38:26.599 Yeah, uh troll. 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.199 Yeah, there we go. 00:38:28.359 --> 00:38:29.400 Here we go. 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.239 Right, yeah, right. 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:44.599 MTV, yes, wet wet, wet's cover for the soundtrack of the 1994 film, Four Weddings and a Funeral, was an international hit and spent 15 consecutive weeks. 00:38:44.839 --> 00:38:49.799 Seems some interesting dynamics in this episode, at number one in the UK singles chart. 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:58.679 What's interesting about it though, is it was a cover, so they actually made no money out of it despite it being at number one for 15 weeks. 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:03.719 Remember the last time you remember a song that was at number one and then for 15 weeks. 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.119 Too many silences in this week's episode, bro. 00:39:08.279 --> 00:39:09.239 You're gonna have to trim them. 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.719 I'm trying to think of the last time I actually cared whether the song was at number one. 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:15.559 Yeah, that's a that's what I was gonna say. 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:16.599 I can't remember. 00:39:16.839 --> 00:39:17.480 I don't know. 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:27.880 Okay, I it wasn't for 15 weeks, but I really enjoyed it when Sturgewill Simpson's Last Record came out and was number one for a while off of strictly physical releases. 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:29.480 I think he's got enough trimming now. 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:33.880 Yeah, but like that's probably Brad Pai Paisley's got a new album out, Brian. 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.599 He does, he didn't ask me about that. 00:39:36.839 --> 00:39:38.039 Yeah, you need to look at that. 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:39.880 Um he didn't ask me if he could do that. 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:40.679 That's right. 00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:50.119 But yeah, I uh but is the world a worse place that we care less about these common cultural touch points like number one music charts. 00:39:50.359 --> 00:39:53.480 I know, but that's I can't tell you that I've ever cared that much. 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:54.440 It's interesting. 00:39:54.759 --> 00:39:56.359 I used to care big time. 00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:57.559 You know what I care about? 00:39:58.359 --> 00:40:01.079 I want to know what Lynch Bob album is coming out next. 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:02.199 That's what I want to know. 00:40:02.839 --> 00:40:04.679 That's what's important to me, fellas. 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:06.039 George? 00:40:06.839 --> 00:40:07.480 Give me a call. 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:07.719 Okay. 00:40:07.799 --> 00:40:08.440 Let's talk about it. 00:40:08.759 --> 00:40:12.599 George, you give me a call and I'll let you know if you can release it or not. 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:14.199 That's right. 00:40:14.279 --> 00:40:14.599 Yeah. 00:40:14.839 --> 00:40:17.159 I'll be the arbiter of whether it's good, okay? 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:17.719 That's right. 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.719 Brian shall be the gatekeeper. 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:27.239 Uh I will say this was a little bit of a brag, but only to fans of niche music. 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:33.159 I did get a uh an artist in one of my favorite heavy bands, sent me his new project. 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.839 Like, I'd love to hear what you think of this before uh Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden. 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.960 Yeah, I wasn't gonna tell everybody, but yeah. 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:41.239 What did he send you? 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:43.079 No, it wasn't Bruce Dickens. 00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:43.559 It wasn't Bruce. 00:40:43.799 --> 00:40:48.039 But it was uh uh listen to the latest tone mob episode, you can get an idea. 00:40:48.359 --> 00:40:57.319 I saw his name come up, and I was like, ah, somebody I

haven't heard of, but I can tell by his name he makes the kind of music that Blake likes. 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.839 Screamy McScreamerson type of music. 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:04.519 Weirdy McWirdo. 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.519 I don't think we ever decided. 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.000 So, what ended up happening with the Diodero thing? 00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:11.239 Like they they admitted it, and now what? 00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.920 We just wait for the Faye Don Garth screwed the pooch, Bri. 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.279 You know what is really gonna happen though? 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.599 And I obviously I have all the motivation to talk crap, but I'm not talking crap right now. 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:23.480 What's gonna happen? 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:24.039 Nothing. 00:41:24.279 --> 00:41:25.960 Yeah, people will just forget about it and move on to the next one. 00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:26.279 They'll forget. 00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:27.960 The internet will forget in a week. 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:28.359 Yep. 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:34.519 There'll be like 12 people that are really, really anti that, and and they'll they'll refuse to ever even look at them again. 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.319 And then in five years they'll forget about it and they'll have or they'll come out with something like really interesting. 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.079 It's like, well, maybe I can forget about that. 00:41:41.319 --> 00:41:43.639 Has anyone ever returned a pack of strings? 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:44.440 Oh. 00:41:50.679 --> 00:42:02.199 The favorite move of people, especially Amazon people, is to buy a set of our strings, say, Hey, I didn't really like these, and then send them back. 00:42:02.359 --> 00:42:07.079 Uh, but they'll have put in sometimes Dedarios uh back in the pack. 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.000 I'm gonna start trolling you guys. 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:10.599 I'm gonna just send you back like 12. 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.159 You can have someone's strings. 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:14.359 That's what I'm saying. 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.279 They're sending their the the ones they took off. 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:24.359 And be like, I didn't really like these, put their old strings in the pack and then send them back to us, and then we'll get them and be like, that's not even our strings. 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.559 But again, uh, you know, you can have a kind of hygienic play. 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.519 You can just be like, the minute you open this packet, the string is yours. 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:33.400 You cannot return it. 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:34.920 No, that's not how we do things. 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.119 We take care of people because sometimes things happen, you know. 00:42:38.279 --> 00:42:41.480 Not most people who return stuff that it's not a scam. 00:42:41.799 --> 00:42:44.279 Also, I'm not being funny, right? 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:53.480 There have been many things that I've bought that have not been what I wanted, and I've just gone, well, more fool you for buying it, and like put it in a drawer and forgotten about it. 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.759 Who's actually gonna bother returning like a yeah? 00:42:56.839 --> 00:43:06.440 I know if you go to guitar center two weeks ago, your strings cost$200, but your regular price for your guitar strings is what, 10, 12 bucks, something like that? 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:07.319 Yeah, usually. 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:09.079 Who's gonna bother? 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:16.039 Like the effort to talk to somebody to do that return is gonna cost me more than just not bothering. 00:43:16.359 --> 00:43:17.960 On Amazon, it's pretty easy though. 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:24.759 You just stand an envelope and shove it in your mailbox, and then actually uh it's kind of a bad idea, I think. 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:38.279 You know, it is, and a good friend of uh ours made this point to me earlier when I was talking to him, uh aka bitching away like a hurt school child about the return situation. 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:49.319 He's like, this is what Amazon has done to everyone, it's made everyone just expect instant returns, instant money back, or else you know, you are the bad guys. 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:58.679 It really has impacted like a lot of people will order on a Friday night or a Saturday and then wonder why it didn't ship until Monday. 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:04.039 And it's like well, that's because like you, they were off on the weekend. 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:04.519 Yeah. 00:44:04.759 --> 00:44:07.159 You know, my name is not Jeff Bezos. 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:08.599 No, it might be now. 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:10.359 And we're trying our best. 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:17.239 Like, we with like the goal is to get people their stuff as quick as possible, but we do like our people to also have weekends off. 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:20.359 That's foolishness. 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.119 Foolishness. 00:44:22.759 --> 00:44:23.719 I mean, who knows? 00:44:23.799 --> 00:44:28.679 Like at some point we might be a three sixty five thing, but we're trying not to be. 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.400 Seriously, have you ever considered a subscription model? 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.799 Like, pay us 150 pounds a year, two hundred dollars a year. 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.319 You can have strings whenever you want. 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:38.839 People already do that, yeah. 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.639 Don't you Good idea, then wasn't it? 00:44:41.799 --> 00:44:43.239 Yeah, we've been doing that forever. 00:44:43.319 --> 00:44:43.480 Yeah. 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:44.920 We should do that with pedals, bro. 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.880 They can kind of select like how often they want them and yeah. 00:44:49.159 --> 00:45:02.519 What you would get, we probably would get someone that uh I'm sure we'd get that every now and then a person that gets like all the pedals, and then basically they're like, All right, I like to cancel

now that I have all 40 pedals. 00:45:03.319 --> 00:45:04.199 Yeah, you know? 00:45:04.279 --> 00:45:07.079 And you're like, but you've only had a membership for a month. 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:08.440 That's not fair. 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:10.920 Well, no, you just get them like once a month. 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:12.599 Yeah, you don't send them all in one go, bro. 00:45:12.839 --> 00:45:15.079 That's where your model is falling down. 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.400 This guy sent us 50 bucks. 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.199 They'd send him five grand worth of pedals. 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.199 So the Adobe model applied to guitar pedals, got you. 00:45:24.359 --> 00:45:25.960 Do you would you like the pedal to work? 00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:27.559 That's an extra$40. 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:28.519 Hold on. 00:45:28.759 --> 00:45:30.839 No, no, you could do the BMW model. 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:32.920 I was gonna say the BMW model. 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:40.039 You could sell them the most high-end pedal possible, and randomly, when they plug it in, it'll play an advert for a movie. 00:45:41.319 --> 00:45:56.839 How annoyed would you be if you bought a$200,000 supercar and you turn the ignition on and a flipping man in a leotard swung across the screen of your dashboard? 00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:58.920 I'd be like, get it off now. 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.880 I like Spider-Man and I wouldn't want that. 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:03.159 I don't want that on there. 00:46:03.319 --> 00:46:04.119 Get that out of there. 00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:12.119 Although, when I bought my Amazon Fire tablet, I could have saved 10 bucks by leaving the advertising on. 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.480 So I'm a cheapskate and I went, yeah, sure, leave the advertising on. 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:21.639 So when you switch on my Amazon Fire tablet, like briefly shows you a picture of something you don't want to buy. 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.559 You soon tune out to that stuff. 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:30.279 I actually find advertising, although I I make light about the BMW situation, I find advertising very inoffensive. 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.519 Like my brain can just tune it out. 00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.920 I think some people maybe not so easily. 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:42.199 I wouldn't, I think if it's the first thing, and I guess if all cars started doing it, like we would probably tune it out. 00:46:42.359 --> 00:46:44.440 But you know where it really irritates me? 00:46:44.759 --> 00:46:46.199 And I don't know why. 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.880 But when I'm filling my car up at the gas Emorroid cream? 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:50.359 Oh. 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:53.480 Should be anti-irritating, Richard. 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:54.519 Um yeah. 00:46:54.759 --> 00:46:56.199 That's where I'm going wrong. 00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:57.880 That explains so much. 00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.639 Yeah, that's rubbing alcohol. 00:46:59.799 --> 00:47:09.559 Anyway, um, the the screen on the

new gas pumps, when you go to fill up your car and you gotta stand there and like, well, I'm filling up the car now. 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.799 They're playing ads and and they're loud. 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.519 They're like, go inside and enjoy yourself a sprite. 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:15.880 And I'm like, shut up. 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.440 I'm uh just give me this moment of peace. 00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:19.880 I don't want to hear this right now. 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:20.839 By the purple colour. 00:47:22.759 --> 00:47:23.319 Yeah. 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:24.119 Right. 00:47:24.359 --> 00:47:26.359 I'm lighting a cigarette, please. 00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:30.599 Yes, let me stare out into space and enjoy this marbread. 00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.159 Oh, that's fantastic. 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.359 Oh, no, are we yet in a world where smoking seems a bit weird? 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.039 Like over here, you don't see hardly anyone smoking. 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:50.519 I actually give respect now, which I shouldn't do because it's a terrible habit, to people who who are still smoking cigarettes. 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.000 I'm like, old school buddy, I like it. 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.319 Sometimes you gotta rip a dart, you know? 00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:06.679 It's like seriously, it it's weird to think that like when we grew up, it was the most normal thing for like adults to do, and everyone did it, it seemed, in the 1970s. 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.639 Now it is really underground. 00:48:09.799 --> 00:48:14.679 Like seeing an actual cigarette smoker is rare in this country. 00:48:14.839 --> 00:48:17.239 Maybe not if you go into the cities, but I don't. 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:21.239 It's pretty rare in general, like versus what it was. 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.359 I mean, when it was the same thing when I was growing up, lots of people smoked. 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.079 Yeah, that's just all a lot of vapors, I think. 00:48:27.319 --> 00:48:28.359 A lot of vapors. 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.599 Yeah, a lot of digital smokers. 00:48:30.839 --> 00:48:33.639 Yeah, it doesn't hit quite the same way digitally. 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:34.679 It's all compressed. 00:48:34.839 --> 00:48:35.880 I prefer the old analog. 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.440 I prefer the analog analog cancer. 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.319 That's much that's a much better form of lung cancer. 00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:48.759 Well, I wonder why they don't why someone doesn't make a tube-based vape, you know? 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:50.920 Old school cry. 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:51.960 Hello. 00:48:52.359 --> 00:48:55.239 This is business idea number 477. 00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.199 Tube-based vape. 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:04.759 Oh, the overtones on this mint cream vape is so much better when I'd use the 12AX7. 00:49:06.359 --> 00:49:09.480 I mean, yeah, you have to have it plugged into an extension cord at all times. 00:49:09.799 --> 00:49:10.279 Sure. 00:49:10.599

--> 00:49:15.000 Yeah, you're basically putting high voltage into your mouth right near your brain. 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:23.319 But other than that, speaking of high voltage, uh, Robert of the Keeley has just released his new tube-based pedals. 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:24.920 Did you guys see the release of that? 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:25.559 I did. 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:26.599 I didn't see the release. 00:49:26.759 --> 00:49:28.839 I saw a lot of uh stuff leading up to it. 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.920 Is it is it just like the the um BK butler tube driver? 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:34.599 Yeah, BK Butler, yeah. 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.079 I think there's some shared um ground. 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:40.599 No pun intended. 00:49:40.759 --> 00:49:43.239 I think the Keely one does quite a bit more. 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.599 And it's also got uh another circuit in it as well. 00:49:46.759 --> 00:49:50.279 He's got his uh super fat mod on there as well. 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.519 Yeah, so you can get a kind of boosted tube drive circuit. 00:49:54.759 --> 00:49:57.159 It comes at a a reasonable premium. 00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:05.000 I mean, you're getting a real tube, you're getting custom metalwork by the fine fellas at F5 Metalworks. 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:10.279 Uh so I think it's about 500 bucks, but I think it's sold out straight away, Brian. 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.519 And it's basically two pedals in one. 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:17.799 So, I mean, it's on the premium, it it's a premium price, but it also has it's got the features. 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:18.920 Two pedals and one. 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:20.519 So, which circuits are we talking about here? 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.839 It's that, it's whatever that tube-based one is. 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:23.960 I don't know exactly what it is. 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:27.000 And the super fat mod. 00:50:27.799 --> 00:50:28.119 Yeah. 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.599 The super fat mod is uh blue driver. 00:50:30.759 --> 00:50:31.159 Yep. 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:32.039 Okay. 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:33.000 Yep. 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:34.519 Cool. 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:35.480 Pretty cool. 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:38.039 Looks amazing. 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.319 Um I think they sold out straight away. 00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:44.519 Um I don't have that sort of money right now. 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.519 If I did, I would consider buying one. 00:50:46.759 --> 00:50:48.279 Well, Matt, I was I was hovering. 00:50:48.359 --> 00:50:49.960 I was like, hmm, I don't need this. 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:54.359 But and then by the time I'd like, I'm gonna do it, it sold out. 00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:01.960 I mean, one of the reasons I don't have any money is is tomorrow is my daughter's wedding, and every single penny I've got has now been spent. 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.559 I just realized something, guys. 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:05.639 It sold out before I could buy it. 00:51:05.799 --> 00:51:08.359 I should get really mad about this and send it. 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:08.839 You should. 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.599 I should post on social media about how upset I am about it. 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.319 You should send in the wait for me specifically. 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.199 Yeah, we should also leave an Amazon review. 00:51:18.359 --> 00:51:19.559 Yeah, how it sold it out. 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:26.039 And when you email Robert, make sure to copy in Josh and Brian and that guy who runs Analog Man too. 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:26.359 Yeah. 00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:27.719 They all want to hear about it. 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:29.000 I want to tell them all about it. 00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.519 Yeah, I'm real mad about it. 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:31.799 Yeah, you should be. 00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.719 You know what I'm not really mad about, though? 00:51:36.839 --> 00:51:42.119 Our one executive production squad. 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:48.920 Blake, would you do the honor of reading out the names of these wonderful people? 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:49.880 I sure would. 00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:54.199 I would like to give a shout-out to all these people who we are definitely not mad at. 00:51:54.440 --> 00:52:40.920 Bill Baze, Andrew Adkins, David Tyndall, Dave Trombetti, Eric Wilson, Vidar Frostad, Michael Freer, Sean Arbo of Gunstreet Wiring, Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks, Patrice Fournays, Dylan Talkstone, Missouri Electrical Box Company, Kevin Harrington, Barry from Grez Guitars, Tom Kelly, Jake Young of Man the Helm Podcast, Pigsy, John O'Neill, Robert Carr, Hunter Hudson, Rob Stokes, Nick Spano, Sasha Sir, Jay Stratton, Harry Post, Grumpy Mike, Harvey Pettles, Allison Carroll, Bum Laser, Anthony Stevens, Atta Plays Guitar, Philip Carter of 40Watt Podcast, Christopher Logan, Jason Englehart, Dylan Lewis of Leeward Sound, Josh, James Thompson, Colin Littlejohn, Machete of Odin, Derek Lyons, Darth Bagel, Dustin Romero, Wizard of Waz, Crappy Tom, Bud Cole's Sentient Ponytail, DJ. 00:52:41.319 --> 00:52:42.279 That's gonna get me every time. 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:56.199 DJ Farns, Kyle Vianna, Robert Hahn, John Hill, Nick Cole, Kyle Ray, Your Face, Dave Evangelista of the Guitar Dads Podcast, Roxy Gwynn, Derek Howe, Churchill from Cam Girls Plus, Ross Edwards, and William Price. 00:52:56.759 --> 00:52:57.319 Thank you. 00:52:57.559 --> 00:52:59.480 Thanks for listening to the Chasing Tone Podcast. 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:06.039 If you have any comments, questions, or concerns, shoot me an email at podcast at womperpedals.com and I'll personally get your email. 00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.599 You can reach Blake at infotonemob.com. 00:53:08.839 --> 00:53:11.079 Richard is Richard at WamperPedals.com. 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:17.799 If you want to support the show, the easiest and free way is just to share this episode with a friend, leave a rating and review wherever you listen. 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:19.000 Helps more than you know. 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:23.400 Be sure to check out Blake's other podcast called the Tone Mob for even more guitar talk. 00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:26.119 If you love pedals, of course, check out wamperpetals.com. 00:53:26.279 --> 00:53:32.679 If you're curious about designing and building your own guitar pedals, head over to guitarpedalcourse.com for step by step courses. 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:40.279 And for bonus content, behind the scene discussions, and extra fun, join us on patreon.com slash chastingtone podcast. 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:40.839 Thanks again. 00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:42.519 We'll talk to you next week.