Full Transcript for EP2 "Time is a Cruel Prince" Cruel Prince vs The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

right, let's talk cocktails. 49 01:02:34,833 --> 01:02:35,233 What do we got? 50 01:02:35,733 --> 01:02:37,633 So my cocktail for today 51 01:02:37,633 --> 01:02:39,133 is called The Last Word. 52 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:40,933 Ooh, I love The Last Word. 53 01:02:40,933 --> 01:02:41,900 I was gonna say, I think 54 01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:42,866 you know this cocktail. 55 01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:44,366 I do, but tell me more about it. 56 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,433 Yeah, so it is a classic, sharp, 57 01:02:47,466 --> 01:02:50,166 perfectly balanced, prohibition-era 58 01:02:50,166 --> 01:02:53,766 cocktail, equal parts of gin, 59 01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:55,633 green chartreuse, 60 01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:58,566 maraschino liqueur and fresh lime juice. 61 01:02:58,599 --> 01:02:59,866 I wasn't sure about the liqueur. 62 01:03:00,366 --> 01:03:02,300 Is that normally what you 63 01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:03,500 would put in the cocktail? 64 01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:03,933 Yeah, 65 01:03:04,433 --> 01:03:06,300 liqueur of some kind of bitter liqueur. 66 01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:07,400 Yeah, that's fine. 67 01:03:07,433 --> 01:03:09,400 Yes, what I'm looking for here is 68 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,133 something sharp, something a little bit 69 01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:12,400 bitter, something a little 70 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,733 bit like hard to swallow. 71 01:03:15,233 --> 01:03:17,800 Hard to swallow. 72 01:03:18,366 --> 01:03:19,466 Mm-hmm. 73 01:03:19,966 --> 01:03:22,699 Yeah, that's the vibe I'm bringing today. 74 01:03:22,699 --> 01:03:24,300 And I'm hoping that you're gonna bring an 75 01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:25,333 interesting vibe too. 76 01:03:25,833 --> 01:03:26,666 I think so. 77 01:03:26,966 --> 01:03:27,266 Yeah. 78 01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:29,966 So just so we understand the conceit of 79 01:03:29,966 --> 01:03:32,833 the show, last time we lied to everyone 80 01:03:32,833 --> 01:03:35,000 and said, we didn't know what each other 81 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:35,766 were gonna talk about, 82 01:03:35,766 --> 01:03:36,900 even though we totally did. 83 01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:37,566 It was a pilot, it 84 01:03:37,566 --> 01:03:38,500 was a prototype, right? 85 01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:39,633 It was proof of concept. 86 01:03:39,666 --> 01:03:40,699 Proof of concept, right? 87 01:03:41,133 --> 01:03:43,066 This time, for realsies, 88 01:03:43,566 --> 01:03:44,400 not lying. 89 01:03:44,933 --> 01:03:46,466 I know what you're gonna talk about. 90 01:03:46,466 --> 01:03:47,166 Yes, you do. 91 01:03:47,233 --> 01:03:49,233 You have no idea what 92 01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:50,466 I'm gonna be talking about. 93 01:03:50,466 --> 01:03:51,133 That's very true. 94 01:03:51,533 --> 01:03:53,599 So knowing what you're gonna be talking 95 01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:54,866 about and what I'm gonna be talking 96 01:03:54,866 --> 01:03:57,266 about, I'm gonna be drinking what I'm 97 01:03:57,266 --> 01:03:58,233 drinking right now, 98 01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:00,233 which is green matcha. 99 01:04:00,766 --> 01:04:02,166 I'm gonna be showing it on camera for 100 01:04:02,166 --> 01:04:03,266 those who can see it. 101 01:04:03,433 --> 01:04:05,066 It's looking a little, I 102 01:04:05,066 --> 01:04:06,433 have a nice little filter here. 103 01:04:06,433 --> 01:04:07,000 It doesn't make it look 104 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,300 super fancy, but there you go. 105 01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:08,800 You can see it in 106 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,566 that filter right there. 107 01:04:09,866 --> 01:04:11,133 Green matcha with a little bit of milk 108 01:04:11,133 --> 01:04:13,033 and a little bit of honey. 109 01:04:13,533 --> 01:04:14,566 That's the vibe today. 110 01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:17,133 Once again, it's even the tradition of 111 01:04:17,133 --> 01:04:18,400 not being alcoholic, but 112 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:20,633 I'm not anti-alcoholic. 113 01:04:20,633 --> 01:04:22,633 I'm not anti-not being alcoholic. 114 01:04:22,633 --> 01:04:24,933 It's just the vibe we're going with. 115 01:04:24,966 --> 01:04:25,699 It's a nice little 116 01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:28,433 complimentary, supplementary, 117 01:04:28,433 --> 01:04:32,666 bipolarishness of your topic and your 118 01:04:32,666 --> 01:04:34,633 discussion and your cocktail, I believe. 119 01:04:34,866 --> 01:04:37,433 But the last word is a fabulous cocktail 120 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,199 and I might need to have one after this. 121 01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:40,133 I think it sounds great. 122 01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:43,166 We'll just have to find some chartreuse 123 01:04:43,666 --> 01:04:45,366 somewhere around here. 124 01:04:45,866 --> 01:04:46,633 Absolutely. 125 01:04:46,666 --> 01:04:48,266 (Laughing) 126 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,633 So that's what we're drinking. 127 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:50,666 Yeah. 128 01:04:50,733 --> 01:04:51,300 We're-- 129 01:04:51,566 --> 01:04:53,000 We're about to bring two 130 01:04:53,033 --> 01:04:54,400 classic stories together. 131 01:04:54,866 --> 01:04:55,366 Oh yeah. 132 01:04:55,566 --> 01:04:57,099 Yeah, we're gonna try to find out if 133 01:04:57,099 --> 01:04:59,433 these guys are basically the same or if 134 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,099 one of us has lost the plot. 135 01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:02,233 It's not me. 136 01:05:02,333 --> 01:05:04,366 I never lose the plot ever. 137 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,966 I always can keep track of what all the 138 01:05:05,966 --> 01:05:07,099 characters' motivations are 139 01:05:07,099 --> 01:05:08,366 doing and what the plot is. 140 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,000 Yet I'm really bad at, 141 01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:12,566 it's not as popular anymore, 142 01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:14,266 but there was that time when 143 01:05:14,766 --> 01:05:16,733 any popular culture thing would come up 144

01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:17,866 and there'd be a bajillion 145 01:05:17,866 --> 01:05:19,833 videos on YouTube, on like 146 01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:22,333 Twitter, Instagram, saying, here are all 147 01:05:22,333 --> 01:05:24,066 the problems with this movie, this show, 148 01:05:24,066 --> 01:05:25,066 this book, whatever. 149 01:05:25,166 --> 01:05:26,400 They name all the 150 01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:28,099 critical little itty bitty 151 01:05:28,099 --> 01:05:29,300 continuity flaws and stuff. 152 01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:30,033 And I'm really bad at 153 01:05:30,033 --> 01:05:30,866 catching that stuff. 154 01:05:30,866 --> 01:05:32,466 I'm like, I went with 155 01:05:32,466 --> 01:05:33,599 the flaw, it was fine. 156 01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:34,900 Didn't bother me that much. 157 01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:36,266 Wasn't that big of a deal? 158 01:05:36,466 --> 01:05:37,266 But for some people, it 159 01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:38,333 really was a big deal. 160 01:05:38,833 --> 01:05:40,633 I'm nit picky like that. 161 01:05:40,666 --> 01:05:41,866 I'll find something and I'm like, that 162 01:05:41,866 --> 01:05:42,900 doesn't make any sense. 163 01:05:43,433 --> 01:05:45,900 But there's some plot holes that you can 164 01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:47,900 let go and some that 165 01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:49,199 kind of like ruin the story. 166 01:05:49,933 --> 01:05:50,866 Yeah, yeah. 167 01:05:50,866 --> 01:05:51,933 I think for me, 168 01:05:52,433 --> 01:05:55,833 my thing is the emotional truth that the 169 01:05:55,833 --> 01:05:56,900 characters are facing. 170 01:05:56,933 --> 01:05:59,133 If I can, if I believe it and it's fine, 171 01:05:59,133 --> 01:06:00,633 I can go everywhere, 172 01:06:00,633 --> 01:06:01,966 which way the character goes. 173 01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:04,099 Once we start betraying what I think is 174 01:06:04,099 --> 01:06:05,566 the emotional truth of that character, it 175 01:06:05,566 --> 01:06:06,533 drives me now to that's 176 01:06:06,533 --> 01:06:08,099 when I get pretty upset. 177 01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:09,266 Little itty bitty 178 01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:10,766 continuity errors don't bother me. 179 01:06:11,366 --> 01:06:12,333 Things like a 180 01:06:12,833 --> 01:06:13,800 technicality and 181 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,533 either the lore or whatever. 182 01:06:15,533 --> 01:06:17,033 I usually let it pass as long as the 183 01:06:17,033 --> 01:06:18,833 story sweeps me in some way. 184 01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:19,666 But 185 01:06:20,166 --> 01:06:21,833 yeah, I guess I'm leaning in that 186 01:06:21,833 --> 01:06:23,733 capacity in some way. 187 01:06:23,966 --> 01:06:26,800 Do you mean specifically when the 188 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,500 characters are like not 189 01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:29,800 being true to themselves? 190 01:06:30,166 --> 01:06:31,000 Like if they're doing 191 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,199 something out of character. 192 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,466 I think so. 193 01:06:33,466 --> 01:06:33,933 I think 194 01:06:34,433 --> 01:06:37,000 if everything has led up to a certain 195 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,500 point and they go in a completely 196 01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:39,933 different direction and it feels like the 197 01:06:39,933 --> 01:06:41,900 writer, like it's a brand new writer and 198 01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:43,500 they forgotten half the story that we 199 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:44,566 have already experienced. 200 01:06:44,566 --> 01:06:45,599 And you're like, why would that 201 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:47,033 character, wait, what? 202 01:06:47,533 --> 01:06:49,133 I mean, I'm a big believer in 203 01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:50,633 like the promise of stories. 204 01:06:50,633 --> 01:06:52,800 Like you start a story and very quickly 205 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,133 you should see little 206 01:06:54,599 --> 01:06:57,699 sprouts of things that are gonna flourish 207 01:06:57,699 --> 01:06:59,933 in directions that you could predict. 208 01:07:00,366 --> 01:07:01,833 It doesn't have to go in that direction, 209 01:07:01,833 --> 01:07:02,633 but like you have to be 210 01:07:02,633 --> 01:07:04,199 able to see a little bit of it. 211 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,366 It's the promise of what 212 01:07:05,366 --> 01:07:06,466 the story will fulfill. 213 01:07:06,966 --> 01:07:08,033 I'm thinking of Indiana 214 01:07:08,033 --> 01:07:09,199 Jones, "Raise the Lost Ark." 215 01:07:09,699 --> 01:07:11,466 The very first scene where Indy's with 216 01:07:11,466 --> 01:07:13,199 his crew and his crew dies and the one 217 01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:14,800 guy betrays him and he's 218 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,900 just about to get the relic. 219 01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:17,733 He runs away from the boulder. 220 01:07:17,966 --> 01:07:19,266 And then at the last minute, 221 01:07:19,766 --> 01:07:21,599 the bad guys win, he loses. 222 01:07:21,633 --> 01:07:22,599 He gets away, 223 01:07:23,099 --> 01:07:25,099 but the bad guys are ultimately gonna die 224 01:07:25,133 --> 01:07:26,766 anyway, so it doesn't really matter. 225 01:07:27,133 --> 01:07:29,166 That first little half hour, 20 minutes, 226 01:07:29,166 --> 01:07:31,066 it's like a promise of what the rest of 227 01:07:31,066 --> 01:07:32,300 the movie is gonna give you. 228 01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:34,233 It's exactly beat for beat the same. 229 01:07:34,233 --> 01:07:36,300 So I mean, I'm not saying every film 230 01:07:36,366 --> 01:07:38,433 story has to follow that, but generally 231 01:07:38,433 --> 01:07:40,033 speaking, when something betrays that, 232 01:07:40,033 --> 01:07:41,666 there has to be a very compelling reason 233 01:07:41,666 --> 01:07:43,833 for it, in my opinion. 234 01:07:44,066 --> 01:07:45,900 Yeah, if they're gonna give you a sort of 235 01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:48,099 character study in the

beginning, you're 236 01:07:48,099 --> 01:07:49,166 expecting that character 237 01:07:49,166 --> 01:07:50,766 to basically be the same. 238 01:07:50,766 --> 01:07:53,500 Maybe that's part of the twist, but. 239 01:07:54,099 --> 01:07:56,566 Yeah, and then I should expect what's 240 01:07:56,566 --> 01:07:57,733 gonna change, right? 241 01:07:58,166 --> 01:07:59,366 But anyway, I mean, 242 01:07:59,866 --> 01:08:01,066 I feel like I can't give a really good 243 01:08:01,066 --> 01:08:05,766 compelling example, but when a character 244 01:08:05,766 --> 01:08:07,566 is leading to a certain direction for a 245 01:08:07,566 --> 01:08:10,466 long time and we take a left-hand turn 246 01:08:10,533 --> 01:08:12,699 out of nowhere, and it's very clear to me 247 01:08:12,699 --> 01:08:14,466 that it's taking that left-hand turn to 248 01:08:14,466 --> 01:08:16,366 build quote unquote artificial intrigue 249 01:08:16,633 --> 01:08:18,666 within its audience, and it should be 250 01:08:19,166 --> 01:08:21,233 something more organic, and that's not 251 01:08:21,233 --> 01:08:22,433 necessarily where things were leading. 252 01:08:22,433 --> 01:08:23,500 That's where I get bummed out. 253 01:08:23,666 --> 01:08:25,133 But like the contrivancies, the technical 254 01:08:25,133 --> 01:08:26,066 stuff, all that weird 255 01:08:26,066 --> 01:08:27,966 stuff, that stuff doesn't bug me. 256 01:08:28,466 --> 01:08:29,233 We are playing, 257 01:08:29,733 --> 01:08:31,500 we're playing let's not block the shot 258 01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:34,000 here in whatever way we can. 259 01:08:34,566 --> 01:08:35,433 It's not working. 260 01:08:35,466 --> 01:08:37,000 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 261 01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:43,000 I got an idea. 262 01:08:43,733 --> 01:08:44,333 Look at this. 263 01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:45,233 Oh, my goodness. 264 01:08:45,233 --> 01:08:46,600 Look at what I'm doing right now. 265 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:48,000 I'm making a mess. 266 01:08:48,033 --> 01:08:48,366 Hold on. 267 01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:49,633 Actually see you, though. 268 01:08:54,866 --> 01:08:55,233 did we leave 269 01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:56,166 Indiana Jones. 270 01:08:56,666 --> 01:08:57,833 And the Raiders of the Lost Ark. 271 01:08:58,333 --> 01:09:02,800 And good story and emotional characters 272 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,199 being true that are emotional selves. 273 01:09:04,699 --> 01:09:04,733 Yes. 274 01:09:05,033 --> 01:09:06,500 Yes, and I said something really smart 275 01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:07,600 about a character study 276 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,933 being a good foreshadowing tool. 277 01:09:10,433 --> 01:09:12,233 Yeah, that's what you said. 278 01:09:12,466 --> 01:09:12,800 Yeah. 279 01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:13,533 Yeah. 280 01:09:13,733 --> 01:09:14,633 It was something like that. 281 01:09:14,633 --> 01:09:15,333 Something like that. 282 01:09:15,333 --> 01:09:16,366 That's what I was trying to get at. 283 01:09:16,466 --> 01:09:17,733 Okay, yeah, yeah. 284 01:09:18,366 --> 01:09:19,366 Point is, 285 01:09:19,866 --> 01:09:21,100 the point is, 286 01:09:21,566 --> 01:09:23,833 I don't care if there's a technicality 287 01:09:23,833 --> 01:09:27,233 that isn't 100% correct, or 288 01:09:27,733 --> 01:09:28,433 I don't like calling 289 01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:30,899 them flaws in a story. 290 01:09:30,933 --> 01:09:32,100 I call them contrivances. 291 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,100 Like sometimes to get to the next place 292 01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,633 to tell a compelling story, you have to 293 01:09:35,633 --> 01:09:36,433 take this little bit of 294 01:09:36,433 --> 01:09:38,399 a leap and that's fine. 295 01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:39,633 I'm okay with that. 296 01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:41,500 That doesn't bother me. 297 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,500 What bothers me is when characters are 298 01:09:44,533 --> 01:09:46,000 not true to themselves based on what the 299 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,699 writer has already 300 01:09:46,699 --> 01:09:48,000 established in the beginning. 301 01:09:48,766 --> 01:09:49,966 You told me the roadmap 302 01:09:49,966 --> 01:09:50,833 and then you betrayed me. 303 01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:51,800 That's what I don't like. 304 01:09:51,966 --> 01:09:54,533 TV shows do that a lot, especially US 305 01:09:54,533 --> 01:09:55,600 ones where there's not 306 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,100 like a consistent show runner. 307 01:09:57,333 --> 01:09:57,600 100%. 308 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,733 You'll have characters making decisions 309 01:10:00,733 --> 01:10:03,466 that are completely out of the blue 310 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,966 or just entirely out of character. 311 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,433 Yeah, for real. 312 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:10,000 That's a very real thing. 313 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:10,633 It's annoying. 314 01:10:10,666 --> 01:10:12,233 I would like it to stop, please. 315 01:10:12,633 --> 01:10:13,100 Yes. 316 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:13,933 Thank you. 317 01:10:14,333 --> 01:10:15,366 I'm glad we agree upon that. 318 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:16,199 I'll work on it. 319 01:10:16,699 --> 01:10:17,233 So is that it? 320 01:10:17,533 --> 01:10:18,633 We've done our talk. 321 01:10:18,633 --> 01:10:19,833 We've drank our cocktails. 322 01:10:19,833 --> 01:10:20,166 We're done. 323 01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:20,699 That's it. 324 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,766 That's all we have to do today. 325 01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:22,399 That's it? 326 01:10:22,733 --> 01:10:23,033 Mm-hmm. 327 01:10:23,433 --> 01:10:24,899 It was a short episode, but. 328 01:10:25,133 --> 01:10:26,066 I'm fine with this. 329 01:10:26,166 --> 01:10:27,766 I'm totally fine with this. 330 01:10:28,333 --> 01:10:29,300 I'm kidding. 331 01:10:29,366 --> 01:10:32,833 I mean, I have my array of Coke Pepsi 332

01:10:32,866 --> 01:10:34,333 Zeros, or is there a 333 01:10:34,333 --> 01:10:36,033 called in the UK Pepsi Maxes? 334 01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:38,166 Are they called Pepsi Maxes in the UK? 335 01:10:38,233 --> 01:10:39,899 They're called Pepsi Maxes in the UK. 336 01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:41,066 Because we used to have 337 01:10:41,066 --> 01:10:42,533 a Pepsi Max in the US. 338 01:10:42,866 --> 01:10:43,366 We used to. 339 01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:44,766 It had extra caffeine in it. 340 01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:47,866 Yeah, so supposedly, this is according to 341 01:10:47,866 --> 01:10:51,066 our other co-founder, Daniel Pratly. 342 01:10:51,333 --> 01:10:52,633 They're called Pepsi Maxes. 343 01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:53,933 Interesting. 344 01:10:53,933 --> 01:10:54,966 I had no idea. 345 01:10:55,466 --> 01:10:58,066 so the story that I brought for you today 346 01:10:58,333 --> 01:11:00,100 is a book called "The Cruel Prince." 347 01:11:00,699 --> 01:11:02,233 Ooh, cruel prince? 348 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,666 Yes, cruel. 349 01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:04,966 Like it's cruel to me. 350 01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,000 Cruel toville? 351 01:11:06,266 --> 01:11:07,800 No, like it's cruel to be kind. 352 01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:09,366 Oh, okay. 353 01:11:09,699 --> 01:11:10,033 All right, as long as 354 01:11:10,033 --> 01:11:11,466 you're gonna be honest, yeah. 355 01:11:11,533 --> 01:11:12,399 It's by Holly Black. 356 01:11:12,899 --> 01:11:13,800 Oh, what do you like Holly Black? 357 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,133 I like Holly Black for sure. 358 01:11:15,633 --> 01:11:16,899 This is the first book in 359 01:11:16,899 --> 01:11:18,600 the "Folk of the Air" series. 360 01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:19,866 Okay. 361 01:11:20,366 --> 01:11:22,199 It's part of a main trilogy and then 362 01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:23,899 there are some novellas 363 01:11:23,933 --> 01:11:25,633 and like a spin-off duology. 364 01:11:26,233 --> 01:11:28,233 That's like- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 365 01:11:28,233 --> 01:11:29,000 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 366 01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:30,766 Part of the main trilogy. 367 01:11:31,266 --> 01:11:33,500 Then there's some spin-offs, duellas. 368 01:11:34,133 --> 01:11:34,766 Novellas. 369 01:11:34,766 --> 01:11:35,500 Novellas. 370 01:11:35,566 --> 01:11:36,066 And a duology. 371 01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:36,966 And a duology. 372 01:11:37,366 --> 01:11:39,833 And also it's kind of part of a larger, 373 01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:43,366 huge universe that she writes for that 374 01:11:43,366 --> 01:11:44,733 has another trilogy in it 375 01:11:45,266 --> 01:11:47,066 and another couple of books. 376 01:11:47,566 --> 01:11:48,899 Is it a cinematic universe? 377 01:11:49,233 --> 01:11:50,833 No, but it did just get picked up by 378 01:11:50,833 --> 01:11:52,733 Amazon as of yesterday. 379 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,966 Whoa. 380 01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:54,500 I know.

381 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,600 It's wild. 382 01:11:55,733 --> 01:11:57,033 Yeah, very exciting. 383 01:11:57,033 --> 01:11:58,000 All right, respect. 384 01:11:58,266 --> 01:11:58,699 I'm with you. 385 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:01,733 So "Cruel Prince," "Wicked 386 01:12:01,733 --> 01:12:03,833 King," "The Queen of Nothing," 387 01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:05,500 "How the King of Eltham 388 01:12:05,533 --> 01:12:07,333 Learned to Hate Stories," 389 01:12:07,833 --> 01:12:10,199 "Stolen Air," which was the newer duology 390 01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:12,233 and "Prisoner's Throne" was 391 01:12:12,233 --> 01:12:13,300 the second in the duology. 392 01:12:13,466 --> 01:12:15,899 Oh, okay, all right, all right. 393 01:12:16,566 --> 01:12:18,133 You've got my interest here. 394 01:12:18,233 --> 01:12:19,666 So are we talking about the first one? 395 01:12:19,933 --> 01:12:21,033 Yes, I'm only really gonna 396 01:12:21,033 --> 01:12:22,233 talk about the first one. 397 01:12:22,633 --> 01:12:23,399 So it would be really 398 01:12:23,399 --> 01:12:24,633 unfair of me to talk about 399 01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:25,866 anything 400 01:12:26,366 --> 01:12:27,433 beyond the first one, or 401 01:12:27,433 --> 01:12:28,433 whatever I've talked about. 402 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,266 Well, I might refer to some things if it 403 01:12:31,266 --> 01:12:34,633 comes up and it furthers our cause of 404 01:12:35,033 --> 01:12:35,966 seeing if these two 405 01:12:35,966 --> 01:12:37,399 stories are compatible or not. 406 01:12:37,899 --> 01:12:39,133 Okay, you're the boss, you got it. 407 01:12:39,266 --> 01:12:39,466 Yeah. 408 01:12:39,966 --> 01:12:42,033 So what is the story about? 409 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,300 Political 410 01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:46,733 conspiracies, alliances, betrayals, 411 01:12:47,233 --> 01:12:48,199 just, 412 01:12:48,699 --> 01:12:51,866 it's, okay, here's the problem with this 413 01:12:51,866 --> 01:12:54,933 book is that it's being pitched around on 414 01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:56,766 book talk as romantasy. 415 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,333 I'm sorry, pause. 416 01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:58,899 Okay. 417 01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,166 Book talk, explain book talk to me as if 418 01:13:02,199 --> 01:13:04,500 I am an idiot, because I am an idiot. 419 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,366 And I know that book talk is a thing. 420 01:13:07,866 --> 01:13:11,966 It's a community, it's people that like 421 01:13:11,966 --> 01:13:13,466 books and they simply talk about it. 422 01:13:13,699 --> 01:13:14,500 Maybe that's all that it 423 01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:16,666 really is, but explain book talk. 424 01:13:16,866 --> 01:13:18,833 So book talk is 425 01:13:19,333 --> 01:13:23,800 TikTok videos where your algorithm is 426 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,966 algorithming you toward book content. 427 01:13:28,733 --> 01:13:31,833 And there's all of these people reading 428 01:13:32,333 --> 01:13:34,033 these very specific books. 429 01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:37,500 And my specific side of book talk is very 430 01:13:37,699 --> 01:13:41,366 fantasy focused, romance focused, and now 431 01:13:41,866 --> 01:13:43,566 they're, you know, smashing those things 432 01:13:43,566 --> 01:13:44,699 together for romantasy. 433 01:13:44,699 --> 01:13:46,533 And that's like real big right now. 434 01:13:47,033 --> 01:13:47,300 Okay. 435 01:13:47,466 --> 01:13:48,033 Does that help? 436 01:13:48,699 --> 01:13:49,166 It does. 437 01:13:49,466 --> 01:13:49,766 Good. 438 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,133 Romanticcy and also? 439 01:13:56,266 --> 01:13:56,766 Yes. 440 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:57,933 C changes. 441 01:13:58,466 --> 01:14:00,466 Yes, C changes. 442 01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:02,000 We made a couple of C changes since the 443 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,600 last edit, the last cut. 444 01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:04,333 Cut. 445 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,899 We did it on purpose 446 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,733 just to throw you off. 447 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,166 Yeah, just to confuse ya. 448 01:14:09,666 --> 01:14:10,566 But in any case. 449 01:14:11,066 --> 01:14:11,533 Romanticcy. 450 01:14:11,966 --> 01:14:12,633 Romanticcy. 451 01:14:13,133 --> 01:14:15,166 I like to see. 452 01:14:15,933 --> 01:14:17,800 You don't like a Roma. 453 01:14:17,866 --> 01:14:19,033 And I like Romans. 454 01:14:19,633 --> 01:14:21,000 You like the Roman Empire. 455 01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:21,566 Yeah. 456 01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:23,699 How often do I think of the Roman Empire? 457 01:14:23,733 --> 01:14:25,466 A lot more often I think of romanticcy. 458 01:14:25,466 --> 01:14:26,233 You know what I'm saying? 459 01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:27,000 You know what I'm saying? 460 01:14:27,033 --> 01:14:28,433 I know you're not a huge fan of the 461 01:14:28,433 --> 01:14:31,233 romance and you like a dash of fantasy 462 01:14:31,233 --> 01:14:32,166 here and there for sure. 463 01:14:32,933 --> 01:14:34,833 Yes, let it be clear to 464 01:14:34,833 --> 01:14:36,100 our listeners and viewers. 465 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,466 Romance is fine. 466 01:14:38,033 --> 01:14:40,466 I had a time when I enjoyed the romance a 467 01:14:40,466 --> 01:14:41,666 bit more than I do now. 468 01:14:42,266 --> 01:14:43,933 The problem that I have and I stick to 469 01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:45,699 this problem pretty vehemently is that I 470 01:14:45,699 --> 01:14:46,466 have one of the greatest 471 01:14:46,466 --> 01:14:48,666 romances one could ever ask for. 472 01:14:48,966 --> 01:14:49,766 So I'm not quite 473 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,366 interested and entertained 474 01:14:51,866 --> 01:14:53,699 by romances that, 475 01:14:54,199 --> 01:14:56,000 you know, aren't like mine. 476 01:14:56,699 --> 01:14:58,366 We'll see, that makes me look bad because 477 01:14:58,366 -->

01:15:00,233 I also have a great romance but I really 478 01:15:00,233 --> 01:15:01,966 enjoy reading other romances. 479 01:15:02,466 --> 01:15:03,500 We'll say that you like 480 01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:04,766 to compare and contrast. 481 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,466 Like, man, I'm so much better. 482 01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:08,133 This is so much better. 483 01:15:08,633 --> 01:15:09,833 Or no, is it more like 484 01:15:09,833 --> 01:15:11,300 this is what you aspire for? 485 01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:12,699 Oh, no, I don't 486 01:15:12,699 --> 01:15:13,833 really aspire for anything. 487 01:15:13,933 --> 01:15:14,233 I just 488 01:15:14,733 --> 01:15:18,233 enjoy, I enjoy stories that 489 01:15:18,733 --> 01:15:19,533 have characters 490 01:15:19,533 --> 01:15:22,033 interacting in different ways. 491 01:15:22,066 --> 01:15:25,500 And the most interacting that you can do 492 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:25,966 between two 493 01:15:25,966 --> 01:15:28,333 characters, I think is a romance. 494 01:15:28,866 --> 01:15:29,566 What do you think? 495 01:15:30,066 --> 01:15:32,000 I really, really wanted you to be like, 496 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,466 the most interacting two characters can 497 01:15:33,466 --> 01:15:36,233 do is fucking, but you didn't say that. 498 01:15:36,733 --> 01:15:39,399 I mean, that's where it leads. 499 01:15:39,833 --> 01:15:40,500 See, this is the 500 01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:41,866 difference between you and me. 501 01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,066 Romance is not just the fucking and 502 01:15:44,066 --> 01:15:44,633 that's what we're gonna 503 01:15:44,633 --> 01:15:45,933 talk about in this book. 504 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,133 Sure, sure, sure. 505 01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:47,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 506 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,066 The problem is, is this book is marketed 507 01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,600 on book talk specifically as romanticy, 508 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,766 but it's young adult. 509 01:15:54,266 --> 01:15:56,566 All the sex scenes are closed door. 510 01:15:57,033 --> 01:15:58,066 You don't see anything. 511 01:15:58,633 --> 01:16:00,466 But there's so much yearning. 512 01:16:01,166 --> 01:16:02,233 They yearn. 513 01:16:02,933 --> 01:16:03,533 They yearn. 514 01:16:03,566 --> 01:16:05,133 They yearn, they burn. 515 01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:06,466 They burn. 516 01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:07,699 They burn and they yearn. 517 01:16:07,833 --> 01:16:08,633 Okay, fair enough. 518 01:16:08,699 --> 01:16:10,100 But also they're like 17. 519 01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:11,333 Okay, all right. 520 01:16:11,733 --> 01:16:12,633 I'm excited. 521 01:16:12,633 --> 01:16:13,899 So walk me through this. 522 01:16:13,899 --> 01:16:16,933 What should I know about this grand tale 523 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,199 of yearning and burning? 524 01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:20,466 Well, actually I wanna kind of back up 525 01:16:20,466 --> 01:16:22,833 because I mentioned that 526 01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:25,233 we got some news about. 527 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:26,899 Yeah, we got some news about. 528 01:16:27,366 --> 01:16:29,266 About Holly Black getting her book 529 01:16:29,266 --> 01:16:30,966 optioned for Amazon. 530 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,899 Holly Black going Hollywood. 531 01:16:33,966 --> 01:16:35,033 Actually it's Amazon, so 532 01:16:35,033 --> 01:16:36,166 it's not exactly Hollywood. 533 01:16:36,566 --> 01:16:38,333 I mean, Amazon owns James Bond now. 534 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,833 That's true. 535 01:16:39,899 --> 01:16:40,600 That's true. 536 01:16:40,633 --> 01:16:41,300 Yeah. 537 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,600 Amazon's going back and forth on the 538 01:16:43,633 --> 01:16:45,633 fantasy element of things. 539 01:16:46,366 --> 01:16:47,966 We're also getting another young adult 540 01:16:47,966 --> 01:16:49,266 book from Holly Black. 541 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,066 We're getting three adult novels. 542 01:16:53,566 --> 01:16:54,866 Let's see what else this says. 543 01:16:55,033 --> 01:16:58,033 Oh, we're getting a cookbook, which your 544 01:16:58,033 --> 01:16:59,233 girl loves a cookbook. 545 01:16:59,733 --> 01:17:02,366 And then this entire trilogy is gonna be 546 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,500 turned into comics, graphic novels. 547 01:17:05,699 --> 01:17:06,333 Oh. 548 01:17:06,633 --> 01:17:07,866 That's coming in 2028. 549 01:17:07,933 --> 01:17:09,000 So I'm excited for that. 550 01:17:09,066 --> 01:17:09,366 Yeah. 551 01:17:09,866 --> 01:17:11,899 And then a conspiracy of charming 552 01:17:11,899 --> 01:17:14,166 monsters, which is illustrated tales of 553 01:17:14,166 --> 01:17:15,300 Elpham is coming in 554 01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:16,899 November, lived this year. 555 01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:17,600 Wow. 556 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,899 So you know what to get me for Christmas. 557 01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:22,633 Let it be known that my Christmas list 558 01:17:22,633 --> 01:17:24,533 has already been made and it is August. 559 01:17:24,733 --> 01:17:25,433 It is August. 560 01:17:25,466 --> 01:17:26,100 Let it be known. 561 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,333 Tarot cards are also coming out, but I 562 01:17:28,366 --> 01:17:29,566 already pre-ordered them. 563 01:17:29,566 --> 01:17:30,333 So you can't get those. 564 01:17:30,333 --> 01:17:31,600 Already pre-ordered them. 565 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,566 They are mine. 566 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,266 Oh my gosh. 567 01:17:33,333 --> 01:17:35,733 They're mine as of next week, I believe. 568 01:17:35,833 --> 01:17:36,100 Okay. 569 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,166 Hopefully. 570 01:17:37,866 --> 01:17:39,166 Fair enough. 571 01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:44,433 So this is all, this is like a political 572 01:17:44,833 --> 01:17:47,699 thriller fantasy novel 573 01:17:47,699 --> 01:17:49,133 with a romantic subplot.

574 01:17:49,866 --> 01:17:50,266 Okay. 575 01:17:50,333 --> 01:17:51,399 Political thriller. 576 01:17:51,899 --> 01:17:53,033 Political thriller. 577 01:17:53,366 --> 01:17:54,833 You know, monarchies and whatnot. 578 01:17:54,899 --> 01:17:56,166 Monarchies and whatnot. 579 01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:56,600 Okay. 580 01:17:56,966 --> 01:17:57,133 Yeah. 581 01:17:57,266 --> 01:17:57,633 Let's go. 582 01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,933 I'm gonna get into the whole story. 583 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:00,466 Let's do it. 584 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,333 Walk me through it. 585 01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:04,866 So as all good fantasy stories start out, 586 01:18:05,366 --> 01:18:07,033 we get dead parents. 587 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,500 Dead parents. 588 01:18:08,533 --> 01:18:10,133 Dead parents. 589 01:18:10,466 --> 01:18:12,333 Dead parents. 590 01:18:12,833 --> 01:18:13,733 Is this Batman? 591 01:18:14,366 --> 01:18:15,300 Is this Batman? 592 01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:15,899 You know what? 593 01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:17,000 Kind of. 594 01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:18,366 So, okay. 595 01:18:18,866 --> 01:18:20,800 I jumped ahead a little too far. 596 01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:22,233 So we get a prologue. 597 01:18:22,266 --> 01:18:22,566 Yeah. 598 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:25,833 And it is our main character, Jude. 599 01:18:26,333 --> 01:18:30,100 Jude Duarte, her twin sister, Taryn, and 600 01:18:30,133 --> 01:18:32,500 their slightly older sister, Vivi. 601 01:18:32,966 --> 01:18:34,733 They are in the mortal world. 602 01:18:35,233 --> 01:18:35,699 They're 603 01:18:36,199 --> 01:18:38,766 little kids, like six and eight. 604 01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:40,766 And they are watching 605 01:18:40,766 --> 01:18:42,399 cartoons, eating fish sticks. 606 01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:42,733 Yeah. 607 01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:43,833 And 608 01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:45,000 all of a sudden, 609 01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:49,366 a big, green, scary red cat breaks into 610 01:18:49,366 --> 01:18:51,966 the house and murders her parents. 611 01:18:52,466 --> 01:18:53,899 And it is very graphic. 612 01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:56,000 And this is a young adult book. 613 01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:57,333 Okay, walk me through 614 01:18:57,333 --> 01:18:59,266 young adult parameters. 615 01:18:59,766 --> 01:19:00,566 YA. 616 01:19:01,133 --> 01:19:03,600 Young adult is typically for anybody in 617 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:04,833 high school, maybe-- 618 01:19:04,866 --> 01:19:07,300 Like 13 to 16, that range, right? 619 01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:08,133 13 to maybe 18. 620 01:19:08,633 --> 01:19:10,533 Because then you get something called new 621 01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:11,433 adult, which is like 622 01:19:11,433 --> 01:19:13,666 for college age, younger. 623 01:19:13,699 --> 01:19:14,100 Yeah. 624 01:19:14,166 --> 01:19:14,433 Yeah. 625 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,066 So I have a really bad pulse for this 626 01:19:17,066 --> 01:19:19,933 stuff because for me, when I was going 627 01:19:19,933 --> 01:19:21,866 through this, when YA was 628 01:19:21,866 --> 01:19:23,300 marketed to me, it was like, 629 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,366 sex was a no-no, but violence was okay. 630 01:19:27,866 --> 01:19:29,300 Is this the same purview 631 01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:31,233 or have the rules changed? 632 01:19:31,266 --> 01:19:32,766 I would say that this is a young adult 633 01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:33,733 book that deals with 634 01:19:33,733 --> 01:19:35,000 the really dark themes. 635 01:19:35,033 --> 01:19:38,199 So this is like, it probably could have 636 01:19:38,199 --> 01:19:40,633 been new adult or adult. 637 01:19:41,133 --> 01:19:43,333 But the publishing companies don't really 638 01:19:43,333 --> 01:19:46,300 like doing this type of fantasy 639 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,866 for adult. 640 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,133 They like, 641 01:19:49,633 --> 01:19:50,399 I guess harder 642 01:19:50,399 --> 01:19:51,966 fantasy, more epic fantasy. 643 01:19:51,966 --> 01:19:53,066 Harder fantasy. 644 01:19:53,066 --> 01:19:54,066 Harder fantasy. 645 01:19:54,066 --> 01:19:58,066 This is somewhat palatable fantasy. 646 01:19:58,566 --> 01:20:00,533 Which is not to say that 647 01:20:01,033 --> 01:20:02,366 high fantasy isn't 648 01:20:02,566 --> 01:20:04,500 wonderful and great and lovely. 649 01:20:04,933 --> 01:20:06,666 But there's something to this that's a 650 01:20:06,666 --> 01:20:08,566 little more real, a little more grounded, 651 01:20:08,566 --> 01:20:09,699 even though there's a lot of 652 01:20:09,699 --> 01:20:11,566 fantastical things going on. 653 01:20:12,133 --> 01:20:12,933 I don't know, that's probably 654 01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:14,133 not a great way to explain it. 655 01:20:14,633 --> 01:20:15,100 But 656 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,333 that is where we are. 657 01:20:17,833 --> 01:20:18,300 Okay, that's the 658 01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:19,300 beginning of the book, right? 659 01:20:19,333 --> 01:20:20,333 Very beginning of the book. 660 01:20:20,766 --> 01:20:22,300 Do you know what a red cap is? 661 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,033 Let our listeners and viewers know. 662 01:20:25,366 --> 01:20:26,133 What is a red cap? 663 01:20:26,199 --> 01:20:29,366 It is a specific type of fairy creature 664 01:20:29,666 --> 01:20:33,233 that they have these hats or caps that 665 01:20:33,233 --> 01:20:35,066 are red and it's because they dip them in 666 01:20:35,066 --> 01:20:36,333 the blood of their enemies. 667 01:20:36,666 --> 01:20:39,533 So they're very gruesome killer fairy 668 01:20:39,533 --> 01:20:40,899 creatures that sort of like, 669 01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:43,233 they sort of like love 670 01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:44,766 violence and killing. 671 01:20:45,466 --> 01:20:47,233 And that is why their cap is red because 672 01:20:47,233 --> 01:20:47,833 they

soak it in the 673 01:20:47,833 --> 01:20:48,800 blood of their enemies. 674 01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:50,433 And fairies just to be clear, 675 01:20:50,966 --> 01:20:52,100 it's not Tinkerbell, right? 676 01:20:52,699 --> 01:20:53,466 Well, some of them are. 677 01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:56,533 But they're definitely, Holly Black makes 678 01:20:56,533 --> 01:20:59,533 it very clear that fairies are beautiful 679 01:20:59,533 --> 01:21:00,399 and ethereal, but 680 01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:02,466 extremely dangerous and tricksy. 681 01:21:03,133 --> 01:21:04,633 They're very tricksy creatures. 682 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,566 Okay, gotcha, yeah. 683 01:21:06,633 --> 01:21:07,333 Tricksy. 684 01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:08,600 Yeah, think Loki. 685 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,300 This is very like a lot of Celtic Irish 686 01:21:12,699 --> 01:21:14,766 folklore based fairy type 687 01:21:14,766 --> 01:21:16,000 creatures that we get to see. 688 01:21:16,166 --> 01:21:16,966 Gotcha, okay, 689 01:21:17,533 --> 01:21:18,399 all right, fair enough. 690 01:21:18,899 --> 01:21:22,966 And the red cap that kills her parents, 691 01:21:23,466 --> 01:21:26,199 Vivi is actually his daughter. 692 01:21:26,266 --> 01:21:28,766 So the mother, Jude's mother, 693 01:21:29,266 --> 01:21:31,233 was with Maddock, 694 01:21:31,733 --> 01:21:32,500 this red cap. 695 01:21:32,699 --> 01:21:32,966 Yeah. 696 01:21:33,733 --> 01:21:37,966 And she took off with another human 697 01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:40,333 living in the mortal realm, had the 698 01:21:40,333 --> 01:21:41,800 twins, Jude and Taryn, 699 01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:44,566 and then Maddock found them, wanted to, 700 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,266 was like, hey, what the hell? 701 01:21:46,266 --> 01:21:48,333 You faked your death and left, 702 01:21:48,866 --> 01:21:51,533 girl, and then kills the parents and then 703 01:21:51,533 --> 01:21:54,533 adopts all three girls and 704 01:21:54,533 --> 01:21:55,633 takes them back to fairyland. 705 01:21:56,133 --> 01:21:59,033 Okay, so the parents are dead, adopts all 706 01:21:59,033 --> 01:22:00,800 three girls, takes them to fairyland. 707 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:02,899 And raises them as his own children. 708 01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:05,666 And are these girls fairies, not fairies? 709 01:22:05,666 --> 01:22:06,233 What's the deal? 710 01:22:06,766 --> 01:22:08,566 So the oldest sister 711 01:22:08,566 --> 01:22:11,100 Vivi, she's a half fairy. 712 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,633 So she is Maddock's blood daughter. 713 01:22:14,766 --> 01:22:15,399 Yeah, okay. 714 01:22:15,866 --> 01:22:16,466 And 715 01:22:16,966 --> 01:22:18,399 the woman who is a mortal 716 01:22:18,699 --> 01:22:20,133 that died, her name is Eva, 717 01:22:20,633 --> 01:22:24,899 but Jude and Taryn are 100% fully mortal. 718 01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:29,466 Living in fairyland raised as if they 719 01:22:29,466 --> 01:22:31,000 were fairies, but they're mortal. 720 01:22:31,333 --> 01:22:32,500 And do they know that they 721 01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:34,633 are not fairies or fairies? 722 01:22:34,733 --> 01:22:36,333 They do, this is a huge point of the 723 01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:39,266 book, is they're being raised as fairies. 724 01:22:39,266 --> 01:22:41,000 They have their respect because Maddock 725 01:22:41,033 --> 01:22:43,066 is a war general for the king, 726 01:22:43,566 --> 01:22:47,100 but it's so dangerous for mortals to live 727 01:22:47,133 --> 01:22:50,633 in the land of the fairies because 728 01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:52,433 there's all kinds of terrible 729 01:22:52,433 --> 01:22:53,533 things that can happen to them. 730 01:22:53,533 --> 01:22:57,833 So if you dance as a mortal in fairyland, 731 01:22:58,033 --> 01:22:59,466 you can't stop yourself 732 01:22:59,466 --> 01:23:00,399 unless somebody stops you. 733 01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:02,500 So you can dance yourself to death. 734 01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:04,466 You can dance if you wanna. 735 01:23:04,766 --> 01:23:06,133 I won't even be demonetized, 736 01:23:06,166 --> 01:23:06,933 but you know what I'm saying. 737 01:23:07,466 --> 01:23:08,066 Okay, gotcha. 738 01:23:08,566 --> 01:23:10,233 If you eat their food, you'll become 739 01:23:10,266 --> 01:23:11,833 ravenously hungry and you'll 740 01:23:12,333 --> 01:23:13,899 gorge yourself on all the food. 741 01:23:14,133 --> 01:23:16,233 If you drink the wine, you become like 742 01:23:16,233 --> 01:23:18,766 so, like one small sip of fairy wine will 743 01:23:18,766 --> 01:23:20,133 leave you so inebriated that 744 01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:22,733 you'll lose weeks of your life. 745 01:23:22,766 --> 01:23:23,000 Right. 746 01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:25,466 If you, there are certain 747 01:23:25,966 --> 01:23:30,866 things that are suggestible that 748 01:23:31,366 --> 01:23:32,066 you can be very 749 01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:33,333 easily taken advantage of. 750 01:23:33,833 --> 01:23:35,133 So super dangerous. 751 01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:36,833 And Taryn and Jude are 752 01:23:36,833 --> 01:23:37,800 growing up in this world. 753 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:38,399 They have to do all 754 01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:39,666 kinds of crazy things. 755 01:23:39,899 --> 01:23:40,433 Like 756 01:23:40,933 --> 01:23:42,533 they have to wear their stockings inside 757 01:23:42,533 --> 01:23:44,466 out so that they don't lose their way on 758 01:23:44,466 --> 01:23:45,866 paths because you can get 759 01:23:46,366 --> 01:23:48,000 lost really easily in fairyland. 760 01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:50,500 They have to wear rowan berries in their 761 01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:52,966 pockets or around their necks because 762 01:23:53,266 --> 01:23:54,399 it'll help them spot 763 01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:57,300 glamor which is like illusions. 764 01:23:57,733 --> 01:23:59,433 And they have to

keep salt in their 765 01:23:59,433 --> 01:24:02,166 pockets because if you do accidentally 766 01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:03,633 eat fairy food, you could 767 01:24:03,633 --> 01:24:04,866 have some salt and it would like 768 01:24:05,366 --> 01:24:06,399 negate the effects. 769 01:24:06,533 --> 01:24:07,466 Interesting, okay. 770 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,933 There's a lot of things they have to do. 771 01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:10,266 A lot of things, okay. 772 01:24:10,433 --> 01:24:12,833 But also they feel like, or at least 773 01:24:12,833 --> 01:24:16,533 Jude, we're in Jude's POV for the book. 774 01:24:16,633 --> 01:24:16,866 Yeah. 775 01:24:17,366 --> 01:24:19,899 Jude feels like she can 776 01:24:19,899 --> 01:24:22,566 never really belong, right? 777 01:24:22,699 --> 01:24:23,933 Can never belong. 778 01:24:24,466 --> 01:24:25,533 She can never belong. 779 01:24:25,566 --> 01:24:27,266 She's gonna try so hard. 780 01:24:27,633 --> 01:24:29,866 She's gonna try to win a little bit of 781 01:24:29,866 --> 01:24:34,500 honor, a little bit of favor. 782 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,000 But her 783 01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:38,633 big struggle is that she never truly 784 01:24:38,633 --> 01:24:39,666 belongs in this world. 785 01:24:40,066 --> 01:24:40,266 Okay. 786 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,266 Mm-hmm. 787 01:24:43,766 --> 01:24:45,433 She actually, she wants to be a knight. 788 01:24:46,233 --> 01:24:47,333 She wants to be a knight. 789 01:24:47,366 --> 01:24:47,800 She wants to be a 790 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,366 knight in the king's past. 791 01:24:48,366 --> 01:24:49,699 A knight, she wants to be a knight. 792 01:24:49,966 --> 01:24:50,766 Interesting. 793 01:24:51,266 --> 01:24:52,899 That's not weird in fairyland. 794 01:24:52,966 --> 01:24:54,833 There's female knights in fairyland. 795 01:24:54,833 --> 01:24:55,033 It's not cool. 796 01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:55,933 Okay, yeah. 797 01:24:56,266 --> 01:24:56,500 Yeah, 798 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:57,800 not a big deal. 799 01:24:57,966 --> 01:24:58,266 Okay. 800 01:24:58,766 --> 01:25:02,100 Then we have Cardin Greenbrier. 801 01:25:02,699 --> 01:25:04,866 He is the youngest son of the king 802 01:25:05,366 --> 01:25:06,466 and is the 803 01:25:06,966 --> 01:25:07,866 cruel prince that we're 804 01:25:07,866 --> 01:25:08,733 gonna be talking about. 805 01:25:08,966 --> 01:25:09,266 Oh. 806 01:25:09,333 --> 01:25:09,600 Mm-hmm. 807 01:25:10,366 --> 01:25:11,033 So this whole time 808 01:25:11,033 --> 01:25:11,800 we've been talking about. 809 01:25:12,366 --> 01:25:12,766 Jude. 810 01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:13,899 Jude, but really it's 811 01:25:13,899 --> 01:25:16,000 about Cardin, what's his name? 812 01:25:16,566 --> 01:25:17,566 Greenbrier. 813 01:25:17,633 --> 01:25:19,033 Greenbrier, green. 814 01:25:19,266 --> 01:25:20,800 Ha ha, green. 815 01:25:21,066 --> 01:25:22,766 Green, yellow chartreuse, 816 01:25:22,766 --> 01:25:24,000 which makes you drink green. 817 01:25:24,033 --> 01:25:24,833 Oh, it's green chartreuse. 818 01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:25,866 Green chartreuse. 819 01:25:26,633 --> 01:25:29,266 Matcha with milk, hmm, green. 820 01:25:29,699 --> 01:25:30,633 I'm sensing that you're 821 01:25:30,633 --> 01:25:32,266 already finding comparisons. 822 01:25:32,766 --> 01:25:33,933 I don't know what you're 823 01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:34,500 talking about, my dear. 824 01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:35,333 I'm totally swimming, 825 01:25:35,366 --> 01:25:36,633 I'm swimming blank here. 826 01:25:36,633 --> 01:25:37,466 I got nothing. 827 01:25:37,533 --> 01:25:38,500 I truly don't know 828 01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:39,633 what you're talking about. 829 01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:42,033 (Both Laughing) You truly, but I have 830 01:25:42,733 --> 01:25:44,933 no idea, but I'll, yep. 831 01:25:44,966 --> 01:25:45,633 We'll keep going. 832 01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:46,866 So 833 01:25:47,366 --> 01:25:47,933 Cardin, 834 01:25:48,466 --> 01:25:49,666 he despises Jude 835 01:25:50,166 --> 01:25:52,699 and absolutely just 836 01:25:52,699 --> 01:25:54,600 like straighter pates her. 837 01:25:55,066 --> 01:25:58,100 Bullies are, he has like a posse, 838 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,866 Nicasia, Locke and Valorant. 839 01:26:01,366 --> 01:26:02,333 They're like his buddies. 840 01:26:02,333 --> 01:26:04,600 They're all super mean, crazy mean. 841 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,833 Okay, they're all mean. 842 01:26:06,899 --> 01:26:07,500 Mean in what way? 843 01:26:07,533 --> 01:26:08,566 What do they do that's mean? 844 01:26:08,766 --> 01:26:10,399 Fairies are just scaries. 845 01:26:10,933 --> 01:26:12,466 Fairies are just scaries. 846 01:26:12,566 --> 01:26:13,833 Fairies are scaries. 847 01:26:14,333 --> 01:26:15,699 I wrote that in my notes. 848 01:26:16,333 --> 01:26:17,533 Oh, you're so proud of that. 849 01:26:17,633 --> 01:26:18,633 Fairies are scaries. 850 01:26:18,633 --> 01:26:19,899 (Both Laughing) 851 01:26:20,399 --> 01:26:22,899 So there is this scene where 852 01:26:23,399 --> 01:26:26,633 they actually take Jude and Taryn and 853 01:26:26,633 --> 01:26:28,633 they try to drown them in the river. 854 01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:29,699 Oh, cool. 855 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,666 There are these creatures called nixies, 856 01:26:31,933 --> 01:26:34,399 which are sort of like these water demons 857 01:26:34,399 --> 01:26:35,699 that will like drown them. 858 01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:37,266 And then there's this whole thing where 859 01:26:37,266 --> 01:26:40,566 they like, they're like, oh, Taryn, you 860 01:26:40,566 --> 01:26:43,933 know, if you come over here and kiss me 861 01:26:43,933 --> 01:26:46,666 on the cheek, and then we'll save you, 862 01:26:47,133 --> 01:26:49,266 but you have to leave your twin sister in 863 01:26:49,266 --> 01:26:50,100 the

middle of the lake to 864 01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,500 be drowned by the nixies. 865 01:26:51,966 --> 01:26:54,666 And then Taryn does it, which is why a 866 01:26:54,666 --> 01:26:55,866 lot of people don't like Taryn. 867 01:26:56,166 --> 01:26:57,800 She makes a lot of weird choices. 868 01:26:58,300 --> 01:26:58,633 Wait. 869 01:26:59,133 --> 01:27:00,366 Taryn is the twin sister. 870 01:27:00,366 --> 01:27:01,333 Taryn is the twin. 871 01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:02,100 She's the one that makes 872 01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:03,199 the weird, the weird choices. 873 01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:03,899 She makes weird choices. 874 01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:05,233 Okay, gotcha. 875 01:27:05,866 --> 01:27:08,100 Well, they're weird to Jude 876 01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:10,233 or us as the reader because 877 01:27:10,733 --> 01:27:12,133 Jude doesn't understand them. 878 01:27:12,366 --> 01:27:13,733 You eventually figure out why she's 879 01:27:13,733 --> 01:27:14,666 making those choices. 880 01:27:14,733 --> 01:27:15,766 Okay, gotcha. 881 01:27:15,833 --> 01:27:18,000 What would I become if I stopped worrying 882 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,800 about death, about pain, about anything? 883 01:27:22,300 --> 01:27:23,933 If I stopped trying to belong, 884 01:27:24,433 --> 01:27:26,300 instead of being afraid, I 885 01:27:26,300 --> 01:27:28,000 could become something to fear. 886 01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:30,000 So this is from Jude. 887 01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:31,933 She, you know, she has 888 01:27:31,933 --> 01:27:33,266 this experience where 889 01:27:33,766 --> 01:27:34,466 these fairies are 890 01:27:34,466 --> 01:27:36,066 definitely bullying her. 891 01:27:36,133 --> 01:27:39,100 Like she's immortal, ew, gross. 892 01:27:39,833 --> 01:27:41,533 Ew, gross, don't be immortal, gross. 893 01:27:41,933 --> 01:27:43,000 She's gonna die. 894 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,266 That's so like passé, gross. 895 01:27:45,766 --> 01:27:46,366 She's just gonna get 896 01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:47,500 old and die, whatever. 897 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,366 And she wanted so badly to be a knight 898 01:27:51,766 --> 01:27:54,866 and to like be honorable, right? 899 01:27:55,366 --> 01:27:55,933 But 900 01:27:56,433 --> 01:27:57,699 her father, Maddock, Daddy 901 01:27:57,699 --> 01:27:59,233 Maddock, as we sometimes call him, 902 01:27:59,733 --> 01:28:00,966 he doesn't want her to be. 903 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,833 He's like, oh no, don't be, 904 01:28:03,333 --> 01:28:04,066 you're not gonna be a knight. 905 01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:05,633 I'm not gonna allow you to fight in this 906 01:28:05,633 --> 01:28:07,166 tournament so that you could 907 01:28:07,166 --> 01:28:08,300 potentially become a knight. 908 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,566 Cardin doesn't want 909 01:28:09,566 --> 01:28:10,233 her to become a knight. 910 01:28:10,733 --> 01:28:11,266 That's part of the 911 01:28:11,266 --> 01:28:12,300 reason why he's bullying her, 912 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,133 among many things. 913 01:28:14,500 --> 01:28:16,466 And then 914 01:28:16,966 --> 01:28:19,300 she's sitting here like, "I've been 915 01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:20,633 trying so hard to belong. 916 01:28:21,166 --> 01:28:22,933 "What if I could become 917 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,233 just something, be afraid of? 918 01:28:25,266 --> 01:28:27,466 "What if I could become something so much 919 01:28:27,466 --> 01:28:29,033 worse "than what they are?" 920 01:28:29,533 --> 01:28:31,366 That's like her driving motivation. 921 01:28:31,666 --> 01:28:32,933 We're talking about motivation earlier. 922 01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:33,866 Yeah, absolutely. 923 01:28:33,866 --> 01:28:35,000 This is her driving motivation. 924 01:28:35,500 --> 01:28:35,533 As 925 01:28:36,033 --> 01:28:39,199 part of all of this, there's a bunch of 926 01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:40,533 like little things that we're getting 927 01:28:40,533 --> 01:28:42,566 dropped of like all the political stuff. 928 01:28:42,566 --> 01:28:47,166 So the King Eldritch is like trying to, 929 01:28:47,466 --> 01:28:48,666 he's like feeling old. 930 01:28:48,699 --> 01:28:49,666 He's like, I'm good. 931 01:28:49,699 --> 01:28:51,466 I'm not gonna have this crown anymore. 932 01:28:51,500 --> 01:28:52,333 I'm a retire. 933 01:28:52,833 --> 01:28:56,433 And we're expecting the oldest and like 934 01:28:56,433 --> 01:28:58,500 sort of perfect Prince Dane 935 01:28:58,766 --> 01:29:00,399 to take the throne, right? 936 01:29:00,899 --> 01:29:01,833 Perfect Prince. 937 01:29:01,866 --> 01:29:03,000 He's a perfect Prince. 938 01:29:03,066 --> 01:29:04,566 Perfect Prince, not cruel. 939 01:29:04,933 --> 01:29:07,766 No, he's, well, we're gonna find out 940 01:29:08,266 --> 01:29:10,500 all about the fairies and how cruel all 941 01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:12,333 of them are, honestly. 942 01:29:12,833 --> 01:29:13,899 And 943 01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:17,466 so Maddox like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Dane's 944 01:29:17,466 --> 01:29:18,300 gonna be the next King. 945 01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:19,000 It's all gonna be good. 946 01:29:19,566 --> 01:29:21,399 And Dane 947 01:29:21,899 --> 01:29:22,866 finds Jude. 948 01:29:23,300 --> 01:29:25,666 Jude makes a little commotion and beats 949 01:29:26,166 --> 01:29:27,333 Cardin at like a duel. 950 01:29:28,033 --> 01:29:28,633 And 951 01:29:29,133 --> 01:29:30,866 Dane is like into that. 952 01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:31,733 He's like, Prince Dane 953 01:29:31,733 --> 01:29:33,800 is like, oh, I see you. 954 01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:35,166 You know what I'm gonna do? 955 01:29:35,733 --> 01:29:37,433 Instead of making you a knight, I'm gonna 956 01:29:37,433 --> 01:29:39,366 make you a spy in my court of shadows. 957 01:29:39,566 --> 01:29:40,500 You're gonna be a spy girl. 958 01:29:41,133 --> 01:29:42,366 And she's like,

hell yeah. 959 01:29:42,866 --> 01:29:43,733 And he's like, 960 01:29:44,233 --> 01:29:45,600 I'll give you anything that you want. 961 01:29:45,833 --> 01:29:48,833 She's like, I don't want any fairies to 962 01:29:48,833 --> 01:29:50,533 ever be able to glamor me. 963 01:29:50,633 --> 01:29:53,666 Like, I don't want anybody to, I want all 964 01:29:53,666 --> 01:29:55,033 my actions to be my own. 965 01:29:55,533 --> 01:29:58,066 If you can do that for me, I 966 01:29:58,633 --> 01:29:59,733 would do whatever you want. 967 01:30:00,466 --> 01:30:01,066 And he's like, cool, 968 01:30:01,066 --> 01:30:01,899 cool, cool, cool, cool. 969 01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:04,066 I'm gonna put a spell on you that means 970 01:30:04,066 --> 01:30:04,733 that nobody can 971 01:30:04,733 --> 01:30:06,333 enchant you except for me. 972 01:30:06,833 --> 01:30:07,266 Oof. 973 01:30:07,866 --> 01:30:09,500 Oof, oof, oof. 974 01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:10,966 But she's like, cool, cool, cool, cool. 975 01:30:10,966 --> 01:30:12,000 This is all fine. 976 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,133 I'm loyal to him. 977 01:30:13,133 --> 01:30:14,333 This is all gonna be great. 978 01:30:14,766 --> 01:30:16,533 You know, thumbs up. 979 01:30:17,033 --> 01:30:18,100 And so she starts being 980 01:30:18,699 --> 01:30:19,733 like a little bit of a spy. 981 01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:20,666 Sure. 982 01:30:21,166 --> 01:30:23,500 Do you know what Mithridism is? 983 01:30:23,833 --> 01:30:26,000 I have no idea what Mithridism is. 984 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,633 I've actually read so many books about 985 01:30:27,633 --> 01:30:30,100 this that it's probably disturbing. 986 01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:32,899 What it is, is you take little bits of 987 01:30:32,899 --> 01:30:35,366 poison and you make yourself immune to 988 01:30:35,366 --> 01:30:37,233 the poison by giving yourself like micro 989 01:30:37,233 --> 01:30:38,966 doses over a long period of time. 990 01:30:39,466 --> 01:30:39,866 Wait. 991 01:30:40,333 --> 01:30:40,566 Yeah. 992 01:30:41,166 --> 01:30:42,466 Isn't that just called a vaccine? 993 01:30:42,966 --> 01:30:45,066 No, this is specifically poisons. 994 01:30:45,833 --> 01:30:46,233 Right. 995 01:30:46,266 --> 01:30:46,866 This is specific. 996 01:30:47,233 --> 01:30:50,033 Okay, so the, 997 01:30:50,533 --> 01:30:51,800 so that's what Jude starts doing. 998 01:30:51,833 --> 01:30:52,566 Gaines like, yeah, that's 999 01:30:52,566 --> 01:30:53,899 what you should do is start 1000 01:30:54,399 --> 01:30:56,966 getting into slowly poisoning yourself. 1001 01:30:57,433 --> 01:30:57,866 It's cool. 1002 01:30:57,899 --> 01:30:58,566 Don't worry about it. 1003 01:30:59,066 --> 01:31:00,300 I've kind of varied the lead 1004 01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:03,933 here because fairies cannot lie. 1005 01:31:04,699 --> 01:31:06,433 This is like kind of the one thing. 1006 01:31:06,933 --> 01:31:08,033 The fairies can't lie. 1007 01:31:08,766 --> 01:31:10,733 They can say things that 1008 01:31:10,733 --> 01:31:12,133 can be like all twisted up. 1009 01:31:12,699 --> 01:31:13,266 In the game. 1010 01:31:13,500 --> 01:31:14,566 Yeah, all twisted up in 1011 01:31:14,566 --> 01:31:16,133 the game, but they can't lie. 1012 01:31:16,633 --> 01:31:18,566 Mortals, they lie all the time. 1013 01:31:18,866 --> 01:31:19,866 And so like, Gaines like 1014 01:31:19,866 --> 01:31:21,866 really impressed that Jude can lie. 1015 01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:24,366 He's like, that's awesome. 1016 01:31:24,366 --> 01:31:26,199 You have a super secret special skill. 1017 01:31:26,699 --> 01:31:29,000 Yes, super secret special skill. 1018 01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:31,699 And so like, that's why he wants her to 1019 01:31:31,699 --> 01:31:32,733 be in the court of shadows. 1020 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,733 She's gonna be able to lie. 1021 01:31:34,233 --> 01:31:37,733 So he sends her on this very first 1022 01:31:38,233 --> 01:31:41,866 mission where she goes to Hollow Hall, 1023 01:31:41,866 --> 01:31:45,433 which is one of the other princes, Prince 1024 01:31:45,433 --> 01:31:47,699 Bailkin's home, and 1025 01:31:47,699 --> 01:31:48,899 it's also Cardin's home. 1026 01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:49,566 All right. 1027 01:31:50,066 --> 01:31:51,666 And when she's like 1028 01:31:52,166 --> 01:31:53,399 messing around in there, 1029 01:31:53,899 --> 01:31:55,033 she finds a note. 1030 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,433 And I'm gonna have you read this note. 1031 01:31:57,933 --> 01:31:59,366 And I want you to put a lot of like, 1032 01:31:59,866 --> 01:32:01,000 a lot of sauce on it. 1033 01:32:01,066 --> 01:32:01,899 Sauce. 1034 01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:02,566 Yeah. 1035 01:32:02,966 --> 01:32:03,966 You're gonna understand 1036 01:32:03,966 --> 01:32:04,866 what I mean in a second. 1037 01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:05,500 Okay. 1038 01:32:06,166 --> 01:32:06,699 Where are we at? 1039 01:32:06,766 --> 01:32:07,366 Is it at the end? 1040 01:32:07,866 --> 01:32:08,466 Right here. 1041 01:32:08,466 --> 01:32:10,666 I just made it pink for you. 1042 01:32:11,166 --> 01:32:12,199 So you have to click on 1043 01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:13,866 that link right there. 1044 01:32:14,366 --> 01:32:15,466 That's an image. 1045 01:32:15,566 --> 01:32:16,366 Yes, it is. 1046 01:32:16,866 --> 01:32:17,166 Okay. 1047 01:32:17,666 --> 01:32:18,699 This is what's in the book 1048 01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:20,166 and I'd like you to read it. 1049 01:32:20,666 --> 01:32:21,166 All of it. 1050 01:32:21,366 --> 01:32:22,199 Yeah, the whole thing. 1051 01:32:22,699 --> 01:32:22,966 Okay. 1052 01:32:23,466 --> 01:32:24,433 I know it's kind of long. 1053 01:32:25,133 --> 01:32:25,366 Yeah. 1054 01:32:25,866 --> 01:32:26,600 You say saucy. 1055 01:32:27,133 --> 01:32:27,566 Saucy. 1056 01:32:27,699 --> 01:32:30,133 I mean, if you

found a little crumbled 1057 01:32:30,133 --> 01:32:33,766 note in the back of somebody's desk that 1058 01:32:33,766 --> 01:32:35,666 looked like this and it was your name, 1059 01:32:36,166 --> 01:32:37,433 how would you imagine 1060 01:32:37,433 --> 01:32:38,600 that they were writing this? 1061 01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:42,866 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, 1062 01:32:43,266 --> 01:32:48,100 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude. 1063 01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:54,366 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude. 1064 01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,866 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, 1065 01:32:58,366 --> 01:32:58,899 Jude. 1066 01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:00,300 Jude! 1067 01:33:00,766 --> 01:33:03,766 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, 1068 01:33:04,266 --> 01:33:05,266 Jude, Jude, Jude. 1069 01:33:05,766 --> 01:33:07,966 Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude 1070 01:33:08,466 --> 01:33:09,133 Jude 1071 01:33:09,633 --> 01:33:11,000 Jude Jude 1072 01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:16,733 Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude 1073 01:33:17,233 --> 01:33:18,833 Jude Jude 1074 01:33:19,366 --> 01:33:20,000 Jude 1075 01:33:20,500 --> 01:33:21,466 Jude Jude 1076 01:33:21,966 --> 01:33:25,600 Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude 1077 01:33:26,233 --> 01:33:31,766 Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude 1078 01:33:31,766 --> 01:33:32,866 Jude Jude Jude Jude Jude 1079 01:33:32,866 --> 01:33:34,033 Jude Jude neighbourhood 1080 01:33:34,533 --> 01:33:35,333 That was beautiful... 1081 01:33:35,833 --> 01:33:37,100 And I know I won't make you 1082 01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:39,500 read any more long Well, thanks 1083 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,633 Okay I'm actually worried because the 1084 01:33:42,666 --> 01:33:44,033 translator might e Out I don't know what 1085 01:33:44,033 --> 01:33:45,633 it caught but it might've thought I was 1086 01:33:45,633 --> 01:33:46,600 saying something else. 1087 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:47,666 Oh my goodness. 1088 01:33:48,366 --> 01:33:50,199 But just to be clear, if you're watching 1089 01:33:50,199 --> 01:33:52,933 the video of this, it's the name Jude. 1090 01:33:53,433 --> 01:33:53,466 A 1091 01:33:53,966 --> 01:33:55,233 lot of different times 1092 01:33:55,733 --> 01:33:57,033 by my very close 1093 01:33:57,033 --> 01:34:00,033 approximation, something like 111 times. 1094 01:34:00,066 --> 01:34:01,666 Oh my goodness, good counts. 1095 01:34:02,133 --> 01:34:02,866 That's why I was keeping 1096 01:34:02,899 --> 01:34:03,866 count while my fingers up. 1097 01:34:03,866 --> 01:34:04,933 You got a little rain man 1098 01:34:05,166 --> 01:34:05,733 going on there. 1099 01:34:05,733 --> 01:34:07,433 I was trying, trying the best. 1100 01:34:07,933 --> 01:34:11,500 So yeah, so she finds this note and she, 1101 01:34:11,766 --> 01:34:14,300 as a normal 17 year old girl goes, man, 1102 01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:16,100 he must really hate me. 1103 01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,333 Yes. 1104 01:34:17,833 --> 01:34:22,133 Yes, that

is exactly what conclusion I 1105 01:34:22,133 --> 01:34:26,933 would also draw upon 111 times. 1106 01:34:26,966 --> 01:34:28,966 Yes, yeah, absolutely. 1107 01:34:29,466 --> 01:34:31,466 On this little mini mission, she finds 1108 01:34:31,466 --> 01:34:32,633 out a bunch of other things. 1109 01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:33,399 Yeah. 1110 01:34:33,533 --> 01:34:35,233 Jordan is actually sort of being abused 1111 01:34:35,366 --> 01:34:37,966 by his older brother, Prince Balcan. 1112 01:34:38,466 --> 01:34:40,866 Also, there's like a human girl that is 1113 01:34:40,866 --> 01:34:43,333 like enchanted and she's a servant and 1114 01:34:43,333 --> 01:34:45,333 Jude is very upset by that. 1115 01:34:45,333 --> 01:34:45,633 Sure. 1116 01:34:46,133 --> 01:34:47,033 Actually, I do have one 1117 01:34:47,033 --> 01:34:47,899 more quote for you to read. 1118 01:34:47,899 --> 01:34:49,933 It's not that long, I promise. 1119 01:34:50,433 --> 01:34:51,699 Not that long, he says. 1120 01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:53,333 Okay, what am I reading? 1121 01:34:53,633 --> 01:34:54,266 It's the end thing. 1122 01:34:54,766 --> 01:34:56,399 Nice things don't happen. 1123 01:34:56,666 --> 01:34:57,133 Got 1124 01:34:57,633 --> 01:34:58,199 a lisp there. 1125 01:34:58,699 --> 01:35:02,000 Nice things don't happen in storybooks or 1126 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,133 when they do happen, something bad 1127 01:35:04,133 --> 01:35:06,000 happens next because 1128 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,666 otherwise the story would be boring 1129 01:35:08,166 --> 01:35:09,333 and no one would read it. 1130 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:10,233 I thought you'd 1131 01:35:10,233 --> 01:35:11,166 really appreciate that one. 1132 01:35:11,433 --> 01:35:11,699 Yeah. 1133 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,100 Yeah, because that's 1134 01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:14,266 when some shit goes down. 1135 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:15,233 What? 1136 01:35:15,699 --> 01:35:18,233 One of the things she does is try to save 1137 01:35:18,233 --> 01:35:21,000 this human girl, Sophie, who's been like 1138 01:35:21,466 --> 01:35:23,000 enchanted, thinks she's a servant, she 1139 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,100 like breaks the enchantment, tries to 1140 01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:27,800 save her and then Sophie like almost 1141 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,333 immediately commits suicide because she 1142 01:35:29,333 --> 01:35:30,000 realizes all the 1143 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,066 terrible things that she does. 1144 01:35:31,566 --> 01:35:33,333 This feels like a really important part 1145 01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:34,733 of the book, but in the grand scheme of 1146 01:35:34,733 --> 01:35:37,600 the story, it's just kind of a drop. 1147 01:35:37,633 --> 01:35:38,300 It just happens. 1148 01:35:38,466 --> 01:35:39,466 It just kind of happens. 1149 01:35:39,500 --> 01:35:40,666 It just happens. 1150 01:35:41,133 --> 01:35:42,433 Okay, all right. 1151 01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:45,033 Again, we are sitting here and being 1152 01:35:45,033 --> 01:35:46,333 like, oh wow, this is fun. 1153 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,300 She's gonna be a spy now, also suicide. 1154 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,766 So trigger morning there. 1155 01:35:52,266 --> 01:35:53,666 What's that narrative trick called where 1156 01:35:53,666 --> 01:35:56,166 you develop a character and you plant the 1157 01:35:56,166 --> 01:35:57,833 seed that this character is going to be 1158 01:35:57,833 --> 01:36:00,699 there for bigger and better things and 1159 01:36:00,699 --> 01:36:01,733 then you just kill it off. 1160 01:36:02,233 --> 01:36:03,366 That's called something. 1161 01:36:03,866 --> 01:36:04,533 Plot twist? 1162 01:36:05,033 --> 01:36:06,399 It's like- There's something else. 1163 01:36:06,866 --> 01:36:08,199 Like, okay. 1164 01:36:08,699 --> 01:36:11,000 This is an example I know you know of and 1165 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:11,833 spoilers for those 1166 01:36:11,833 --> 01:36:12,966 that have never seen it. 1167 01:36:13,466 --> 01:36:14,566 Into the spider verse. 1168 01:36:15,133 --> 01:36:17,233 The very beginning, you meet Peter Parker 1169 01:36:17,266 --> 01:36:20,066 and they're pumping Peter Parker up as if 1170 01:36:20,233 --> 01:36:21,800 you're gonna see Peter Parker for a bit 1171 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,266 of time and then he dies. 1172 01:36:23,766 --> 01:36:26,600 And then Miles Morales becomes Spider-Man 1173 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:27,633 and then there's another Peter Parker 1174 01:36:27,633 --> 01:36:28,466 that comes in, but 1175 01:36:28,466 --> 01:36:29,899 that Peter Parker is dead. 1176 01:36:30,300 --> 01:36:30,533 Yeah. 1177 01:36:31,033 --> 01:36:32,600 And the way that was done 1178 01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:34,933 tonally was in a way that did, 1179 01:36:35,433 --> 01:36:38,100 you look at it later and you could pick 1180 01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:39,733 up some pieces, but in the moment, 1181 01:36:39,733 --> 01:36:41,000 because of the flavor and everything 1182 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,100 else, it was like, nah, 1183 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,100 they wouldn't spend all this time 1184 01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:45,533 introducing this character in the way 1185 01:36:45,566 --> 01:36:46,366 that they did and just to 1186 01:36:46,366 --> 01:36:47,866 kill them off, but they did. 1187 01:36:47,933 --> 01:36:48,766 But they do that. 1188 01:36:48,933 --> 01:36:49,600 Yeah. 1189 01:36:49,766 --> 01:36:51,633 It is really interesting, 1190 01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:53,333 different way to tell a story. 1191 01:36:53,366 --> 01:36:56,566 Like, you know, you kind of set it up 1192 01:36:57,066 --> 01:36:57,800 and then just do that 1193 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,699 little, oop, nevermind. 1194 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,333 Yeah, I love it. 1195 01:37:01,399 --> 01:37:02,433 It's a good trick. 1196 01:37:02,933 -->

01:37:03,133 Yeah. 1197 01:37:03,633 --> 01:37:04,266 So 1198 01:37:04,766 --> 01:37:06,199 in between all of this 1199 01:37:06,899 --> 01:37:08,633 spying that Jude is doing, 1200 01:37:09,133 --> 01:37:11,133 she has this issue with 1201 01:37:11,133 --> 01:37:12,833 one of Cardin's lackeys. 1202 01:37:13,233 --> 01:37:14,833 His name is Valerian. 1203 01:37:15,533 --> 01:37:18,199 And he tries to kill her, she kills him. 1204 01:37:18,666 --> 01:37:20,000 And this is the first time Jude kills 1205 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,699 somebody and is not 1206 01:37:21,699 --> 01:37:23,699 the last by any means. 1207 01:37:24,366 --> 01:37:25,699 Nevermind, I'm not that excited then. 1208 01:37:26,199 --> 01:37:26,866 It's gonna happen more 1209 01:37:26,866 --> 01:37:27,766 times, okay, nevermind. 1210 01:37:27,766 --> 01:37:29,199 It's the first time it happens. 1211 01:37:29,733 --> 01:37:31,000 I'm stealing her drink, by the way. 1212 01:37:31,366 --> 01:37:32,166 Why would you do that? 1213 01:37:32,166 --> 01:37:33,166 It's my matcha. 1214 01:37:33,699 --> 01:37:34,366 It's delicious. 1215 01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:36,000 (Laughs) 1216 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,699 So then there's this big, 1217 01:37:38,199 --> 01:37:39,333 so, you know, Jude's 1218 01:37:39,333 --> 01:37:40,133 learning to be a spy. 1219 01:37:40,166 --> 01:37:41,500 Then there's this coordination that's 1220 01:37:41,500 --> 01:37:43,633 happening because the king no longer 1221 01:37:43,633 --> 01:37:45,033 wants to be the king. 1222 01:37:45,033 --> 01:37:46,100 He's gonna give it to 1223 01:37:46,433 --> 01:37:47,466 one of his children. 1224 01:37:47,566 --> 01:37:50,333 Only one of his, you know, heirs, one of 1225 01:37:50,333 --> 01:37:51,066 his direct blood 1226 01:37:51,066 --> 01:37:52,766 descendants can wear this crown. 1227 01:37:53,066 --> 01:37:53,899 Specifically, it's 1228 01:37:53,899 --> 01:37:54,899 called the blood crown. 1229 01:37:55,266 --> 01:37:58,199 And it has to, you know, you have to be 1230 01:37:58,233 --> 01:38:00,666 of the blood to crown and be crowned. 1231 01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:02,333 It's a whole like 1232 01:38:02,833 --> 01:38:04,733 spell that they have to do. 1233 01:38:04,899 --> 01:38:06,166 Sure, whole spell, got it. 1234 01:38:06,666 --> 01:38:08,366 By the way, listeners and viewers, 1235 01:38:08,866 --> 01:38:12,100 I'll have you know, I am following a good 1236 01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:13,233 chunk of this so far. 1237 01:38:13,699 --> 01:38:16,266 You might not think that I am, but I am. 1238 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:17,866 Be impressed. 1239 01:38:18,566 --> 01:38:21,033 I'm impressed because I, you know, I'm 1240 01:38:21,033 --> 01:38:22,500 skipping a lot, but there's a lot of 1241 01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:23,833 complexity to the story. 1242 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:24,233 Yeah. 1243 01:38:24,366 --> 01:38:24,600 Yeah. 1244 01:38:24,933 --> 01:38:26,899 And viewers, if you are following along 1245 01:38:26,899 --> 01:38:28,266 to this story, give 1246 01:38:28,266 --> 01:38:29,500 yourself a pat on the back. 1247 01:38:29,899 --> 01:38:30,100 100%. 1248 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,033 That's what's 1249 01:38:31,033 --> 01:38:33,199 important here, not me, you. 1250 01:38:33,699 --> 01:38:34,166 Continue. 1251 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:34,899 Thank you. 1252 01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:39,066 So with the coronation, Bailkin, that 1253 01:38:39,066 --> 01:38:40,500 prince that lived with Cardin, that was 1254 01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:42,533 kind of abusing him, he stages a coup. 1255 01:38:42,933 --> 01:38:44,699 Literally everyone-- As one does. 1256 01:38:44,899 --> 01:38:47,333 Of course, you have to, it's fairy land. 1257 01:38:47,666 --> 01:38:48,500 Have to stage a coup. 1258 01:38:48,566 --> 01:38:48,833 Sure. 1259 01:38:49,333 --> 01:38:50,466 He kills literally 1260 01:38:50,466 --> 01:38:52,899 everybody except Cardin and himself. 1261 01:38:53,399 --> 01:38:54,399 Literally everybody? 1262 01:38:54,399 --> 01:38:55,266 Literally everybody 1263 01:38:55,266 --> 01:38:56,333 in the Greenbrier line. 1264 01:38:56,766 --> 01:38:57,500 The king, 1265 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,199 Prince Dain is dead. 1266 01:38:59,699 --> 01:39:00,833 There was like a sister that I didn't 1267 01:39:00,833 --> 01:39:01,966 mention, she's dead. 1268 01:39:02,233 --> 01:39:04,366 Literally everybody in the royal family 1269 01:39:04,866 --> 01:39:05,933 is dead now, except 1270 01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:07,100 for Bailkin and Cardin. 1271 01:39:07,699 --> 01:39:10,100 And like I said, only an 1272 01:39:10,133 --> 01:39:13,399 heir can crown the next king. 1273 01:39:13,433 --> 01:39:14,666 They have to be blood related. 1274 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:15,133 Okay. 1275 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:16,666 So that's a whole big thing. 1276 01:39:17,166 --> 01:39:21,166 And Jude grabs Cardin, takes him knowing 1277 01:39:21,166 --> 01:39:25,166 that he's important and holds him captive 1278 01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:27,133 with the rest of the spies 1279 01:39:27,133 --> 01:39:28,266 that she's been working with. 1280 01:39:28,633 --> 01:39:30,366 The spies of the roach, the bomb and the 1281 01:39:30,366 --> 01:39:33,566 ghost, which they have cool code names. 1282 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:34,233 Yeah, sure. 1283 01:39:34,233 --> 01:39:34,399 Yeah. 1284 01:39:34,466 --> 01:39:35,333 Okay, I like it. 1285 01:39:35,833 --> 01:39:38,533 And then Cardin tells her that 1286 01:39:39,033 --> 01:39:39,600 there's a promise 1287 01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:43,866 saying if this mysterious 1288 01:39:44,433 --> 01:39:47,833 other heir is killed, so 1289 01:39:48,333 --> 01:39:51,133 Dain had this child killed, or like he 1290 01:39:51,133 --> 01:39:54,100 tried to have this one child killed, that 1291 01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:55,800

there's the whole mystery that's going 1292 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:56,699 on, that there's this one 1293 01:39:56,699 --> 01:39:59,233 child that's a Greenbrier heir 1294 01:39:59,733 --> 01:40:02,399 that Dain tried to have killed, but if 1295 01:40:02,399 --> 01:40:04,100 he's still alive, that 1296 01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:05,300 Dain would never be king. 1297 01:40:05,733 --> 01:40:08,666 So because Dain cannot be king, because 1298 01:40:08,666 --> 01:40:11,566 he's dead, he's dead, 1299 01:40:12,066 --> 01:40:13,600 this child must still be alive. 1300 01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,333 So there's a mysterious 1301 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,166 another heir to the throne. 1302 01:40:18,733 --> 01:40:18,966 Okay. 1303 01:40:19,466 --> 01:40:19,666 Okay. 1304 01:40:20,166 --> 01:40:22,733 There's also this very fun scene where 1305 01:40:22,833 --> 01:40:25,033 Cardin is all tied up and Jude's 1306 01:40:25,033 --> 01:40:26,899 threatening him and it's great. 1307 01:40:26,899 --> 01:40:27,533 So I do have another 1308 01:40:27,533 --> 01:40:28,199 quote for you to read. 1309 01:40:28,699 --> 01:40:29,366 Another quote? 1310 01:40:29,399 --> 01:40:29,699 Mm-hmm. 1311 01:40:30,199 --> 01:40:36,300 (Air Whooshing) (Dain Clears Throat) 1312 01:40:36,766 --> 01:40:39,300 So specifically, Jude has him all tied up 1313 01:40:39,699 --> 01:40:40,466 and she's like, "Why 1314 01:40:40,466 --> 01:40:41,466 do you hate me so much?" 1315 01:40:41,533 --> 01:40:43,166 Most of all, I hate you 1316 01:40:43,333 --> 01:40:44,366 because I think of you. 1317 01:40:45,133 --> 01:40:48,500 Often, it's disgusting and I can't stop. 1318 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,266 This is important for later. 1319 01:40:50,766 --> 01:40:52,766 Okay, all right, fair enough. 1320 01:40:53,266 --> 01:40:55,899 (Both Laugh) He hates her so much that he 1321 01:40:55,899 --> 01:40:57,666 can't stop thinking about her. 1322 01:40:58,333 --> 01:40:59,333 Yeah, that's how that works. 1323 01:40:59,366 --> 01:41:00,733 Yeah, exactly. 1324 01:41:01,233 --> 01:41:01,699 And 1325 01:41:02,199 --> 01:41:05,500 Jude also says how much she hates him and 1326 01:41:05,500 --> 01:41:07,833 specifically she says, "I hate him more 1327 01:41:08,233 --> 01:41:09,633 than all the others. 1328 01:41:09,666 --> 01:41:11,766 "I hate him so much that sometimes when I 1329 01:41:11,766 --> 01:41:13,800 look at him, "I can hardly breathe." 1330 01:41:14,333 --> 01:41:16,333 And so we're getting a lot of these types 1331 01:41:16,333 --> 01:41:18,266 of quotes all throughout the book about 1332 01:41:18,266 --> 01:41:19,433 how much they hate each other. 1333 01:41:19,699 --> 01:41:22,399 This is truly enemies to lovers. 1334 01:41:22,866 --> 01:41:23,733 If they hate each 1335 01:41:23,733 --> 01:41:25,366 other, will they bang later? 1336 01:41:25,366 --> 01:41:26,766 I wonder. 1337 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:27,966 Not in

this book. 1338 01:41:28,633 --> 01:41:30,166 Not in this book, okay. 1339 01:41:30,266 --> 01:41:31,566 Okay, I was looking 1340 01:41:31,566 --> 01:41:32,966 forward to it, but okay. 1341 01:41:33,466 --> 01:41:35,733 And then Jude, 1342 01:41:36,233 --> 01:41:37,666 Jude has been having this little 1343 01:41:37,666 --> 01:41:40,366 flirt-mance thing with one of Cardin's 1344 01:41:40,366 --> 01:41:42,366 other lackeys, Locke, 1345 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,600 but it turns out that 1346 01:41:45,066 --> 01:41:46,600 Locke was just kind of like 1347 01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,166 hyping her up because he was dating her 1348 01:41:49,166 --> 01:41:51,333 sister and there was this whole 1349 01:41:51,866 --> 01:41:53,033 big thing 1350 01:41:53,533 --> 01:41:55,600 about Locke trying to get 1351 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:56,833 between the two sisters. 1352 01:41:57,266 --> 01:41:58,166 So Locke is 1353 01:41:58,666 --> 01:42:01,000 actually dating Taryn, 1354 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,566 Jude's sister, twin sister. 1355 01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:05,066 And he was trying to 1356 01:42:05,066 --> 01:42:06,500 get between the two twins. 1357 01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:08,566 He was trying to rile them up. 1358 01:42:09,133 --> 01:42:10,333 And there's this whole thing 1359 01:42:10,833 --> 01:42:11,366 that 1360 01:42:11,866 --> 01:42:13,666 Jude was excited that 1361 01:42:13,766 --> 01:42:15,300 somebody actually liked her. 1362 01:42:15,633 --> 01:42:16,699 She was like, "Oh, maybe I 1363 01:42:16,699 --> 01:42:17,866 do belong here in Ferry." 1364 01:42:17,866 --> 01:42:20,133 And then Locke's like, "Nevermind, I'm 1365 01:42:20,333 --> 01:42:21,966 getting engaged to your twin." 1366 01:42:22,333 --> 01:42:24,300 Like total betrayal. 1367 01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:26,433 Like pretty big deal. 1368 01:42:26,633 --> 01:42:28,100 And Taryn kind of knew. 1369 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,333 She knew that Locke was like messing with 1370 01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:32,733 them both and didn't say 1371 01:42:32,733 --> 01:42:33,766 anything to Jude at all. 1372 01:42:34,133 --> 01:42:34,366 Yeah. 1373 01:42:34,399 --> 01:42:35,300 Just- Okay. 1374 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,033 There's this whole, 1375 01:42:37,533 --> 01:42:39,133 once Jude finds out, she 1376 01:42:39,133 --> 01:42:41,033 challenges Taryn to like a duel. 1377 01:42:41,666 --> 01:42:43,533 And Jude's the one that sword fights and 1378 01:42:43,533 --> 01:42:45,233 Taryn is the one that's more like, 1379 01:42:45,733 --> 01:42:47,666 she's more into like compromising and 1380 01:42:48,399 --> 01:42:49,399 making everything okay. 1381 01:42:49,899 --> 01:42:53,233 But the half-Fairy sister tries to glamor 1382 01:42:53,233 --> 01:42:55,133 them to stop, but it turns out that 1383 01:42:55,133 --> 01:42:58,366 Jude's glamor is still working, or her 1384 01:42:58,366 --> 01:42:59,399 spell that makes her 1385 01:42:59,466 --> 01:43:01,666 resistant to glamors is still working. 1386 01:43:02,033 --> 01:43:03,266 Oh, okay. 1387 01:43:03,266 --> 01:43:05,899 So she doesn't stop and almost hurts 1388 01:43:05,899 --> 01:43:07,000 Taryn, but she stops 1389 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,699 herself the last moment. 1390 01:43:09,266 --> 01:43:12,066 So now we know that just because Prince 1391 01:43:12,066 --> 01:43:14,433 Dain is dead, doesn't mean that that 1392 01:43:14,433 --> 01:43:16,133 spell went away for Jude. 1393 01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:17,933 So she cannot be glamored, which is 1394 01:43:17,933 --> 01:43:20,433 really, really powerful in the Ferry 1395 01:43:20,933 --> 01:43:21,366 Kingdom. 1396 01:43:21,866 --> 01:43:21,899 Oh 1397 01:43:22,399 --> 01:43:23,399 my gosh, and now we're only 1398 01:43:23,399 --> 01:43:24,466 like halfway through the book. 1399 01:43:24,466 --> 01:43:26,566 So there's a lot more than that. 1400 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:27,899 Jude eventually comes 1401 01:43:27,899 --> 01:43:29,233 to the realization that 1402 01:43:29,733 --> 01:43:30,966 her like adoptive 1403 01:43:30,966 --> 01:43:34,233 brother, Oak, is actually the 1404 01:43:34,733 --> 01:43:37,000 child, the third Greenbrier heir. 1405 01:43:37,366 --> 01:43:40,666 So she concocts this whole plan 1406 01:43:41,166 --> 01:43:44,466 to get Cardin on the throne 1407 01:43:44,966 --> 01:43:45,866 instead of 1408 01:43:46,333 --> 01:43:47,733 Prince Balecan and instead 1409 01:43:47,733 --> 01:43:49,133 of her little brother, Oak. 1410 01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:51,899 So she figures out that Oak is 1411 01:43:52,399 --> 01:43:55,166 this missing child in the heir. 1412 01:43:55,166 --> 01:43:57,600 So she concocts this whole plan to get 1413 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,633 Cardin onto the throne instead of her 1414 01:44:00,633 --> 01:44:02,100 little brother, Oak, right? 1415 01:44:02,633 --> 01:44:05,433 Because Balecan is bad guy, Oak's too 1416 01:44:05,433 --> 01:44:08,600 young, and at least maybe we can get 1417 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:09,500 Cardin on the throne. 1418 01:44:10,033 --> 01:44:11,600 And what she ends up doing is she 1419 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,733 interrogates Cardin and gets him to 1420 01:44:15,233 --> 01:44:18,166 swear himself to her for a year and a day 1421 01:44:18,533 --> 01:44:20,399 so that he has to do everything she says. 1422 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,866 So she's gonna like shadow run 1423 01:44:23,366 --> 01:44:25,533 the whole kingdom, using 1424 01:44:25,533 --> 01:44:26,566 Cardin as a figurehead. 1425 01:44:27,066 --> 01:44:27,800 And then 1426 01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:29,766 Jude and Madoc 1427 01:44:30,266 --> 01:44:32,666 duel over the crown, and there's this 1428 01:44:32,666 --> 01:44:33,666 really cool like 1429 01:44:33,899 --> 01:44:36,166 princess bride moment where Jude 1430 01:44:36,666 --> 01:44:39,433 poisons Madoc, and he's

like, "Oh my God, 1431 01:44:39,433 --> 01:44:40,100 how did you know what 1432 01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:40,699 cup I would choose?" 1433 01:44:40,699 --> 01:44:41,133 And she's like, "I 1434 01:44:41,133 --> 01:44:42,833 poisoned them both, bitch." 1435 01:44:42,833 --> 01:44:44,100 (Both Laughing) 1436 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,399 I have another quote for you to read, and 1437 01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:48,800 this is when Jude is 1438 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,033 interrogating Cardin. 1439 01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:51,766 I can feel the moment he gives in and 1440 01:44:51,766 --> 01:44:54,333 gives up, pulling me to him despite the 1441 01:44:54,333 --> 01:44:55,333 threat of the knife. 1442 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,300 He kisses me hard with a kind of 1443 01:44:58,300 --> 01:45:01,033 devouring desperation, fingers digging 1444 01:45:01,033 --> 01:45:04,133 into my hair, our mouths slide together, 1445 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,533 teeth over lips over tongues. 1446 01:45:07,033 --> 01:45:08,000 Desire hits me like a 1447 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,000 kick to the stomach. 1448 01:45:09,533 --> 01:45:11,566 It's like fighting, except what we're 1449 01:45:11,566 --> 01:45:12,699 fighting for is to crawl 1450 01:45:12,699 --> 01:45:14,033 inside each other's skin. 1451 01:45:14,066 --> 01:45:15,866 But kissing Locke never felt the way that 1452 01:45:15,866 --> 01:45:18,533 kissing Cardin does, like taking a dared 1453 01:45:18,533 --> 01:45:20,600 run over knives, like an adrenaline 1454 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,699 strike of lightning, like the moment when 1455 01:45:22,699 --> 01:45:25,133 you're swum too far out in the sea and 1456 01:45:25,133 --> 01:45:26,233 there's no going back, 1457 01:45:26,733 --> 01:45:28,133 only cold black water 1458 01:45:28,133 --> 01:45:29,333 closing over your head. 1459 01:45:29,833 --> 01:45:31,833 And she's specifically like holding a 1460 01:45:32,333 --> 01:45:34,466 knife to his throat and making out with 1461 01:45:34,466 --> 01:45:35,566 him, and that is the 1462 01:45:35,566 --> 01:45:37,466 spiciest scene in the whole book. 1463 01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:38,533 Wow. 1464 01:45:38,766 --> 01:45:39,133 Yeah. 1465 01:45:39,899 --> 01:45:40,100 Okay. 1466 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:41,000 Sounds 1467 01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:43,399 like something you'd see in Hollywood if 1468 01:45:43,399 --> 01:45:44,466 they ever decided to do that. 1469 01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:47,066 Oh yeah, I'm really excited for whatever 1470 01:45:47,066 --> 01:45:48,699 they end up doing for 1471 01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:49,600 the show. 1472 01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:50,433 There's actually a 1473 01:45:50,933 --> 01:45:53,800 fan film on YouTube, it's French, 1474 01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:56,000 of this story. 1475 01:45:56,566 --> 01:45:59,366 And they haven't gotten very far into it 1476 01:45:59,366 --> 01:46:01,300 yet, but the costumes and the 1477

01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,500 location shots and just like all the 1478 01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:04,399 choreography is like 1479 01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:05,466 beautiful, it's really cool. 1480 01:46:06,266 --> 01:46:07,500 It's on YouTube, shout out. 1481 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:08,600 Shout out. 1482 01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:12,166 Anyway, Jude's plan works, she poisons 1483 01:46:12,166 --> 01:46:14,966 Madoc, she gets Cardin on the throne, and 1484 01:46:14,966 --> 01:46:17,033 Cardin has to listen to her for a year 1485 01:46:17,433 --> 01:46:21,199 and a day, and the clock is ticking, and 1486 01:46:21,199 --> 01:46:22,833 that's how we end the first book. 1487 01:46:23,533 --> 01:46:24,333 Whoa. 1488 01:46:24,333 --> 01:46:26,966 Yeah, that was a lot of stuff, and I 1489 01:46:26,966 --> 01:46:28,466 skipped over even 1490 01:46:28,466 --> 01:46:29,633 more than a lot of stuff. 1491 01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,333 Even more than a lot of stuff. 1492 01:46:31,366 --> 01:46:31,666 Yeah. 1493 01:46:32,133 --> 01:46:33,399 Okay, all right, all right. 1494 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:34,866 For you. 1495 01:46:34,899 --> 01:46:35,966 For you. 1496 01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:39,533 Now, just so the record is clear, Holly 1497 01:46:39,533 --> 01:46:41,666 Black is one of your favorite authors. 1498 01:46:41,866 --> 01:46:42,500 She is. 1499 01:46:42,533 --> 01:46:43,266 Of all time. 1500 01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:44,966 She's one of my favorites, absolutely. 1501 01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:46,566 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1502 01:46:47,166 --> 01:46:49,000 And you did tell me at one point what 1503 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:52,500 your first Holly Black book was, your 1504 01:46:52,500 --> 01:46:54,066 favorite, now I'm not sure it's your 1505 01:46:54,066 --> 01:46:55,233 favorite anymore, do you have a favorite 1506 01:46:55,233 --> 01:46:56,600 Holly Black book now? 1507 01:46:57,033 --> 01:46:59,466 I don't know anymore 1508 01:46:59,966 --> 01:47:01,766 what my favorite one is, it 1509 01:47:01,766 --> 01:47:02,933 might be "Queen of Nothing," 1510 01:47:03,433 --> 01:47:03,666 which 1511 01:47:04,166 --> 01:47:05,933 is the third book in this series, but 1512 01:47:05,933 --> 01:47:09,433 "Tithe" is the first Holly Black book I 1513 01:47:09,433 --> 01:47:12,366 read back when I was 17 myself, 1514 01:47:12,866 --> 01:47:13,366 I would say. 1515 01:47:13,866 --> 01:47:15,699 And it was very enjoyable, 1516 01:47:16,199 --> 01:47:18,033 I have not read it in a long time, but a 1517 01:47:18,066 --> 01:47:20,466 good friend of mine told me that it does 1518 01:47:20,466 --> 01:47:22,633 not hold up, that you must be 17 to read 1519 01:47:22,633 --> 01:47:25,033 it, or else you will not enjoy it. 1520 01:47:25,633 --> 01:47:26,066 So 1521 01:47:26,566 --> 01:47:27,466 I'll have to do a reread. 1522 01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:29,500 I have a memory of you taking your copy 1523 01:47:29,500 --> 01:47:32,000 of that book and writing a nice note on 1524 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:33,533 it and leaving it at a train station for 1525 01:47:33,533 --> 01:47:34,800 someone to pick up and find. 1526 01:47:34,866 --> 01:47:36,666 Oh yeah, that was, we were doing like, 1527 01:47:37,166 --> 01:47:39,433 it was something online where you could 1528 01:47:39,433 --> 01:47:41,766 like find books local to you that people 1529 01:47:41,766 --> 01:47:43,366 just kind of left random places. 1530 01:47:43,399 --> 01:47:45,166 Yeah, that's pretty cool. 1531 01:47:45,333 --> 01:47:47,266 Yeah, good story. 1532 01:47:47,866 --> 01:47:48,899 Well, I'm tired now. 1533 01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:50,233 Okay, we're down. 1534 01:47:50,266 --> 01:47:52,966 But, but, but, but, but, I'm really 1535 01:47:52,966 --> 01:47:54,733 curious to know what 1536 01:47:55,266 --> 01:47:57,600 game you think matches this. 1537 01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:58,266 Mm, 1538 01:47:58,766 --> 01:47:59,066 mm, 1539 01:47:59,566 --> 01:47:59,866 ha, 1540 01:48:00,366 --> 01:48:00,933 yes. 1541 01:48:01,433 --> 01:48:04,033 No game whatsoever, you're not prepared. 1542 01:48:04,233 --> 01:48:06,266 And before we get to that, editor Sam 1543 01:48:06,266 --> 01:48:07,566 here to let you know, there's a really 1544 01:48:07,566 --> 01:48:09,800 cool way you can join the fun, get early 1545 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,666 access to episodes of chapters and 1546 01:48:11,666 --> 01:48:14,133 checkpoints before anyone else does. 1547 01:48:14,433 --> 01:48:15,000 That's right. 1548 01:48:15,133 --> 01:48:17,633 Come join us at patreon.com slash zero 1549 01:48:17,633 --> 01:48:20,600 dot media to get access to the counter 1550 01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,533 hit chapters and checkpoints, a new 1551 01:48:23,533 --> 01:48:25,199 secret, secret, secret project that we're 1552 01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:27,800 launching like very soon right now, as 1553 01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:29,466 well as sneak peeks to other projects 1554 01:48:29,466 --> 01:48:31,600 that myself or Daniel or 1555 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:32,666 Crystal might be working on. 1556 01:48:32,933 --> 01:48:34,133 So come join us. 1557 01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:36,300 It's cheap $3.99 each. 1558 01:48:36,333 --> 01:48:37,433 Come join the fam, be 1559 01:48:37,433 --> 01:48:38,633 part of our private discord. 1560 01:48:38,766 --> 01:48:40,633 We love to have you chat with you about 1561 01:48:40,633 --> 01:48:42,766 books, video games, and 1562 01:48:42,766 --> 01:48:43,699 everything else in between. 1563 01:48:44,266 --> 01:48:46,000 All right, back to the episode. 1564 01:48:49,166 --> 01:48:50,833 of a big deal that I'm bringing it up. 1565 01:48:50,833 --> 01:48:52,033 I think when we bring it up, it's gonna 1566 01:48:52,033 --> 01:48:52,666 become even a more 1567 01:48:52,666 --> 01:48:54,366 popular video game afterwards. 1568

01:48:54,733 --> 01:48:56,133 And that game, of course, is 1569 01:48:56,633 --> 01:48:59,600 The Legend of Zelda, the ocarina of time. 1570 01:49:00,300 --> 01:49:00,966 I think this is a 1571 01:49:00,966 --> 01:49:03,066 really smart choice of you to 1572 01:49:03,566 --> 01:49:04,966 bring this to the 1573 01:49:04,966 --> 01:49:07,000 forefront today of all days. 1574 01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:08,000 I'm ready. 1575 01:49:08,133 --> 01:49:08,433 Yeah. 1576 01:49:08,766 --> 01:49:09,366 I'm ready to go. 1577 01:49:09,866 --> 01:49:10,733 All right, so, 1578 01:49:11,233 --> 01:49:11,833 ocarina time. 1579 01:49:12,333 --> 01:49:14,033 Little tiny game that became the 1580 01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:16,266 best-selling Zelda game of all time and 1581 01:49:16,766 --> 01:49:18,666 won a bunch of awards and just considered 1582 01:49:18,666 --> 01:49:19,100 one of the greatest, 1583 01:49:19,633 --> 01:49:22,866 got the first 10 out of 10 out of 10 at 1584 01:49:22,866 --> 01:49:25,066 Famitsu, a Japanese review site. 1585 01:49:25,133 --> 01:49:26,733 No big deal, just a small little game. 1586 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:27,399 Yeah, just a little. 1587 01:49:27,899 --> 01:49:28,766 The story of this game 1588 01:49:29,066 --> 01:49:30,266 takes place in Hyrule, 1589 01:49:30,766 --> 01:49:32,533 but not the Hyrule that we had ever seen 1590 01:49:32,533 --> 01:49:34,933 before in prior games of Legend of Zelda. 1591 01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:37,600 And just to be clear, this was the fifth 1592 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:39,466 Legend of Zelda game at this point. 1593 01:49:39,500 --> 01:49:41,066 Can I just say that it's the fifth one. 1594 01:49:41,399 --> 01:49:44,033 There's now like 30 of these things, 40, 1595 01:49:44,399 --> 01:49:45,699 if you include spin-offs. 1596 01:49:46,333 --> 01:49:47,399 There was Legend of Zelda 1, 1597 01:49:47,899 --> 01:49:49,600 there was 2, then there was 1598 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:50,666 Legend of Zelda Link to the 1599 01:49:51,166 --> 01:49:53,033 Past, which is kind of known as Zelda 3. 1600 01:49:53,533 --> 01:49:54,899 Then there's Link's Awakening and then 1601 01:49:54,899 --> 01:49:56,000 there's the stock green-up time. 1602 01:49:56,633 --> 01:49:57,366 Right off the bat. 1603 01:49:57,833 --> 01:49:59,933 Prince is like the fourth or fifth 1604 01:49:59,966 --> 01:50:02,100 installment of the modern fairy tales. 1605 01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:05,066 Ooh, okay, all right, all right. 1606 01:50:05,366 --> 01:50:06,766 Because as you mentioned, 1607 01:50:07,433 --> 01:50:10,100 tithe is like an early version. 1608 01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:11,566 Yeah, anyway, go ahead. 1609 01:50:11,699 --> 01:50:12,833 There are connections, there are 1610 01:50:12,833 --> 01:50:13,666 connections, aren't there? 1611 01:50:14,233 --> 01:50:18,633 So the deal is that it's Hyrule, sometime 1612 01:50:18,633 --> 01:50:20,333 in Hyrule and it's the

first time we're 1613 01:50:20,333 --> 01:50:21,966 seeing kind of an origin story of the 1614 01:50:21,966 --> 01:50:23,966 gods and deities of Hyrule. 1615 01:50:24,466 --> 01:50:26,833 There's three of them, fun fact, related 1616 01:50:26,833 --> 01:50:28,199 to the Triforce, fun fact. 1617 01:50:28,699 --> 01:50:29,733 We'll talk about that later. 1618 01:50:30,233 --> 01:50:33,100 But we follow the story of a young boy, a 1619 01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:35,300 boy who lives in a forest village. 1620 01:50:35,899 --> 01:50:39,166 This forest village that is filled with, 1621 01:50:39,399 --> 01:50:40,466 well, the people that live in 1622 01:50:40,466 --> 01:50:41,800 this forest village are Kokiri, 1623 01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:44,166 Kokiri, Kokiri, however 1624 01:50:44,166 --> 01:50:45,500 you wanna pronounce it. 1625 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,500 And what's interesting about this forest 1626 01:50:48,500 --> 01:50:51,533 village is that every single person in 1627 01:50:51,533 --> 01:50:53,533 this village has a fairy 1628 01:50:53,533 --> 01:50:57,033 companion, except for one, 1629 01:50:57,533 --> 01:50:58,966 the boy that we're gonna be following. 1630 01:50:59,466 --> 01:51:02,166 That boy we're gonna call Link, that's 1631 01:51:02,166 --> 01:51:03,766 what we normally call this character. 1632 01:51:03,966 --> 01:51:06,733 Link has not had a fairy companion at all 1633 01:51:07,233 --> 01:51:09,833 until one day he wakes up and he does. 1634 01:51:10,333 --> 01:51:12,000 One day he has a fairy companion. 1635 01:51:12,533 --> 01:51:14,266 Everyone's favorite, Navi. 1636 01:51:14,633 --> 01:51:15,166 Navi. 1637 01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:16,399 Not sure at all for 1638 01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:18,800 navigation, but Navi, okay? 1639 01:51:18,866 --> 01:51:19,399 Listen. 1640 01:51:19,500 --> 01:51:21,266 And everyone in the village is super 1641 01:51:21,266 --> 01:51:23,899 happy that this character Link now 1642 01:51:23,899 --> 01:51:25,866 finally has a fairy to call your own, 1643 01:51:25,866 --> 01:51:27,500 they're happy, they're joyous, like yes, 1644 01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:28,566 finally you get to have him. 1645 01:51:29,033 --> 01:51:31,233 There's almost like this sense of worry 1646 01:51:31,266 --> 01:51:32,233 that he has not had this 1647 01:51:32,233 --> 01:51:34,500 fairy with him this entire time. 1648 01:51:34,966 --> 01:51:37,333 This fairy, Navi says, "Hey, we must see 1649 01:51:37,333 --> 01:51:38,600 the great Deku tree." 1650 01:51:39,233 --> 01:51:41,033 Now the great Deku tree 1651 01:51:41,533 --> 01:51:42,866 is kind of, 1652 01:51:43,366 --> 01:51:47,466 not a god, but a guardian of this place 1653 01:51:47,466 --> 01:51:48,933 called the Kokiri village. 1654 01:51:49,433 --> 01:51:50,733 And by the way, I told 1655 01:51:50,733 --> 01:51:51,733 you what my cocktail was. 1656 01:51:51,733 --> 01:51:52,533 It was matcha. 1657 01:51:52,566 --> 01:51:53,199 Matcha. 1658 01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:56,233 Matcha, honey, green tea, some kind of 1659 01:51:56,266 --> 01:51:58,766 liquid in a clear glass 1660 01:51:58,766 --> 01:51:59,766 that I have right here. 1661 01:52:00,266 --> 01:52:01,399 And the reason why I 1662 01:52:01,399 --> 01:52:04,600 picked a clear glass is because, 1663 01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:07,100 it's because it correlates to 1664 01:52:07,633 --> 01:52:09,100 a jar that you can get with water, 1665 01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:10,866 fluids, potions, all that stuff. 1666 01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:13,633 You can also collect fairies in this jar. 1667 01:52:13,699 --> 01:52:16,300 I'm sure that's related slash not related 1668 01:52:16,300 --> 01:52:18,500 in some capacity in some particular way. 1669 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,133 And so Navi is telling you to go see the 1670 01:52:21,133 --> 01:52:23,766 great Deku tree and in this particular 1671 01:52:23,766 --> 01:52:25,533 capacity, the great Deku tree and just 1672 01:52:25,533 --> 01:52:27,300 for visual aid for us all 1673 01:52:27,833 --> 01:52:29,066 is that little guy right there. 1674 01:52:29,233 --> 01:52:30,466 And by little, I mean massive. 1675 01:52:30,466 --> 01:52:32,899 It's this giant massive tree, et cetera. 1676 01:52:33,233 --> 01:52:34,933 And Link can't get to the Deku tree 1677 01:52:34,966 --> 01:52:36,199 because all the Kokiri are like, "Hey 1678 01:52:36,199 --> 01:52:38,766 man, you can't come see the Deku tree 1679 01:52:38,766 --> 01:52:41,333 until you've got a shield and a sword." 1680 01:52:41,500 --> 01:52:42,833 And it's very easy for you to find a 1681 01:52:42,833 --> 01:52:44,500 shield and sword, get a couple of rupees, 1682 01:52:44,733 --> 01:52:45,800 find the hidden sword 1683 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,766 and you're all good to go. 1684 01:52:47,266 --> 01:52:47,933 You get the sword. 1685 01:52:48,433 --> 01:52:49,000 The 1686 01:52:49,500 --> 01:52:51,100 great Deku tree is like, "Hey, there's 1687 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,300 an evil, I'm 11th force out. 1688 01:52:54,333 --> 01:52:57,100 And it's actually, it's inside of me and 1689 01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:59,333 I need you to destroy it, to 1690 01:52:59,333 --> 01:53:01,066 save us and save the land." 1691 01:53:01,566 --> 01:53:03,699 Link goes down, goes down the thing, 1692 01:53:03,966 --> 01:53:05,766 defeats good old Goma, the boss right 1693 01:53:05,766 --> 01:53:07,533 there, comes back and the 1694 01:53:07,533 --> 01:53:08,500 great Deku tree is like, "Hey, 1695 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:09,933 cool, thanks. 1696 01:53:10,733 --> 01:53:11,333 I'm dying. 1697 01:53:11,966 --> 01:53:12,699 I was already dying 1698 01:53:12,699 --> 01:53:13,666 before you even started." 1699 01:53:14,166 --> 01:53:16,300 I'm about to die right now. 1700 01:53:16,533 --> 01:53:18,166 You now have a much larger journey ahead. 1701

01:53:18,300 --> 01:53:19,199 Oh my goodness. 1702 01:53:19,699 --> 01:53:20,800 Before you go, here 1703 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,300 I'll give you the stone 1704 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,699 and the stone will help lead you to 1705 01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:26,933 see the princess Zelda. 1706 01:53:27,699 --> 01:53:28,133 Okay. 1707 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,933 So the Deku tree dies right there in 1708 01:53:29,933 --> 01:53:31,600 front of you, turns to like gray. 1709 01:53:32,366 --> 01:53:34,033 All the Kokiri are devastated 1710 01:53:34,033 --> 01:53:35,866 and they suspect you did it. 1711 01:53:35,899 --> 01:53:38,800 You caused the great Deku tree's death, 1712 01:53:38,966 --> 01:53:40,366 the great Deku tree said he was already 1713 01:53:40,366 --> 01:53:42,199 dying before you came out to do whatever. 1714 01:53:42,733 --> 01:53:43,933 And you go on your adventure, right? 1715 01:53:44,433 --> 01:53:46,699 You go on an adventure, you go to Hyrule 1716 01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:47,899 Field 1717 01:53:48,399 --> 01:53:51,266 and then you go ahead and sneak through 1718 01:53:51,266 --> 01:53:52,600 some guards, sneak through the castle 1719 01:53:52,633 --> 01:53:55,866 guard area and you meet good old Zelda. 1720 01:53:55,866 --> 01:53:57,699 And Zelda's a young little kid and 1721 01:53:57,699 --> 01:53:58,300 Zelda's like, "Hey, 1722 01:53:58,300 --> 01:53:59,366 I've had this premonition. 1723 01:53:59,866 --> 01:54:03,866 I think this evil man Ganondorf is trying 1724 01:54:03,866 --> 01:54:06,500 to get favor and do some 1725 01:54:06,899 --> 01:54:08,500 horrible heinous things. 1726 01:54:09,133 --> 01:54:11,000 We must make sure that he can't ever get 1727 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,633 access to the temple of time and the 1728 01:54:12,633 --> 01:54:14,433 master sword and yada, yada, yada." 1729 01:54:14,433 --> 01:54:15,633 That's not the important part. 1730 01:54:16,133 --> 01:54:16,866 So you go ahead and go 1731 01:54:16,866 --> 01:54:20,266 down Zelda's errands. 1732 01:54:20,766 --> 01:54:22,233 You get the two and three 1733 01:54:22,233 --> 01:54:23,500 other gems you need to get. 1734 01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:24,833 You befriend a bunch of 1735 01:54:24,833 --> 01:54:25,699 friends along the way. 1736 01:54:26,366 --> 01:54:28,500 Support for you also know that one of 1737 01:54:28,533 --> 01:54:31,100 Link's friends during the, when he was in 1738 01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:33,100 the Kokiri village was Saria. 1739 01:54:33,733 --> 01:54:34,533 Saria is a girl with 1740 01:54:34,533 --> 01:54:36,166 green hair, very cute looking. 1741 01:54:36,633 --> 01:54:37,433 She's your age, 1742 01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:38,566 you're a young little boy. 1743 01:54:38,633 --> 01:54:41,033 I think they say you're 10 years old, 10 1744 01:54:41,033 --> 01:54:41,899 years old or so, 1745 01:54:41,933 --> 01:54:43,000 they're Saria right there. 1746

01:54:43,399 --> 01:54:43,966 Very cute. 1747 01:54:44,166 --> 01:54:44,399 Yeah. 1748 01:54:44,899 --> 01:54:46,233 You go do the thing, you get the three 1749 01:54:46,233 --> 01:54:49,233 gemstones and a big mix up happens. 1750 01:54:49,433 --> 01:54:52,333 You get to the castle and Zelda's on 1751 01:54:52,399 --> 01:54:54,166 horseback with some other person, 1752 01:54:54,300 --> 01:54:55,466 Sheikah, who's like, or 1753 01:54:56,166 --> 01:54:57,100 I think, yeah, Sheikah. 1754 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:58,566 No, not Sheikah. 1755 01:54:59,066 --> 01:54:59,666 What's her name? 1756 01:55:00,166 --> 01:55:00,566 Uh-oh. 1757 01:55:00,666 --> 01:55:01,066 No. 1758 01:55:01,399 --> 01:55:02,399 Everyone's screaming it. 1759 01:55:02,899 --> 01:55:03,500 Imp. 1760 01:55:04,166 --> 01:55:04,533 Impa? 1761 01:55:05,033 --> 01:55:05,966 Yes, Impa. 1762 01:55:06,466 --> 01:55:06,866 Thank you. 1763 01:55:07,066 --> 01:55:08,800 I know Impa from "Breath of the Wild." 1764 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,533 Yep, Impa. 1765 01:55:10,033 --> 01:55:11,500 Oh, she looks, she's like built in 1766 01:55:11,500 --> 01:55:12,199 muscular, like very 1767 01:55:12,266 --> 01:55:13,333 ninja like, very cool. 1768 01:55:13,866 --> 01:55:15,333 And then at the same time Ganondorf is 1769 01:55:15,333 --> 01:55:17,133 chasing after her and there's lightning 1770 01:55:17,133 --> 01:55:18,366 and there's thunder and 1771 01:55:18,366 --> 01:55:19,233 they're coming after you. 1772 01:55:19,300 --> 01:55:20,133 And basically he's trying 1773 01:55:20,133 --> 01:55:21,399 to find the Ocarina of Time. 1774 01:55:21,766 --> 01:55:22,033 Okay. 1775 01:55:22,533 --> 01:55:24,800 Zelda tossed the Ocarina of Time down the 1776 01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:25,966 moat in the castle and 1777 01:55:25,966 --> 01:55:27,366 you go dig it up, grab it. 1778 01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:28,833 You go to the temple of time, 1779 01:55:28,833 --> 01:55:30,100 you do the flute flute thing. 1780 01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:31,233 You've got your 1781 01:55:31,733 --> 01:55:34,133 three gems, the door opens and there's a 1782 01:55:34,133 --> 01:55:37,199 sword, the master sword right there. 1783 01:55:37,399 --> 01:55:38,300 The real sword. 1784 01:55:38,300 --> 01:55:39,199 The real sword. 1785 01:55:39,533 --> 01:55:41,000 You lift it up and 1786 01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,366 (Imitates Sword Whirring) 1787 01:55:43,866 --> 01:55:45,466 That's a very fancy sound effect. 1788 01:55:45,500 --> 01:55:47,000 I would play the music, but I'm so afraid 1789 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,833 of being demonetized by the indie 1790 01:55:48,833 --> 01:55:50,800 developer known as Nineteen-Doh. 1791 01:55:50,866 --> 01:55:52,000 Nineteen-Doh. 1792 01:55:52,699 --> 01:55:53,600 That I wouldn't want to do that. 1793 01:55:53,866 --> 01:55:54,866 And you are teleported 1794 01:55:54,866 --> 01:55:56,699 into this ethereal realm.

1795 01:55:57,300 --> 01:55:57,733 Ooh. 1796 01:55:57,833 --> 01:56:00,233 And you're talking to an older gentleman 1797 01:56:00,733 --> 01:56:02,899 who appears to, he calls himself a sage 1798 01:56:02,933 --> 01:56:04,500 and he tells you that, you 1799 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:06,600 know, calamity is striking 1800 01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,333 and all this stuff is happening 1801 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:10,633 and strength has brought you anew. 1802 01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:14,100 We need you to be our champion to go and 1803 01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,833 stop this horrible evil. 1804 01:56:16,333 --> 01:56:18,633 And in order for us to do this, we had to 1805 01:56:18,666 --> 01:56:21,433 advance your age by seven years. 1806 01:56:21,866 --> 01:56:22,100 Wow. 1807 01:56:22,166 --> 01:56:23,333 And Link looks at himself 1808 01:56:23,333 --> 01:56:24,833 and he's now seven years older. 1809 01:56:24,833 --> 01:56:26,033 He's now like a teenager. 1810 01:56:26,533 --> 01:56:27,600 Analogy would be 1811 01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:29,766 Spider-Man, Peter Parker before he gets 1812 01:56:29,766 --> 01:56:31,766 bit by the radioactive spider then post 1813 01:56:31,766 --> 01:56:32,733 after it's like, whoa, 1814 01:56:32,733 --> 01:56:34,066 holy crap, he's got skills. 1815 01:56:34,433 --> 01:56:35,899 That being said, this character is mute. 1816 01:56:35,899 --> 01:56:36,266 So 1817 01:56:36,766 --> 01:56:38,333 we do get a little bit of his inner 1818 01:56:38,333 --> 01:56:39,033 thoughts in some 1819 01:56:39,033 --> 01:56:40,399 capacity, but for the most part, 1820 01:56:40,899 --> 01:56:42,399 you know, he's still a young 10 year old 1821 01:56:42,399 --> 01:56:43,566 boy child inside of the 1822 01:56:43,566 --> 01:56:44,766 body of a 17 year old. 1823 01:56:44,766 --> 01:56:45,300 Wow. 1824 01:56:45,733 --> 01:56:46,100 Yeah. 1825 01:56:46,166 --> 01:56:47,366 I didn't realize that part of it. 1826 01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:47,800 Yeah. 1827 01:56:48,300 --> 01:56:51,166 He gets out and the castle, 1828 01:56:51,666 --> 01:56:55,899 the main Hyrule Castle Village area is 1829 01:56:55,899 --> 01:56:57,933 totally ransacked by zombies. 1830 01:56:58,500 --> 01:56:59,500 I forget the exact term, 1831 01:56:59,533 --> 01:57:00,666 but they're basically zombies. 1832 01:57:00,666 --> 01:57:01,800 You run away from them. 1833 01:57:02,333 --> 01:57:03,866 You're now in Hyrule Field and it looks 1834 01:57:03,866 --> 01:57:05,800 kind of similar, but everyone's older. 1835 01:57:06,033 --> 01:57:08,300 Everyone has, the world has moved on at 1836 01:57:08,300 --> 01:57:10,600 the same time you and Link have moved on, 1837 01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:11,500 but you from a 1838 01:57:11,500 --> 01:57:12,899 maturity standpoint, if not. 1839 01:57:13,399 --> 01:57:15,500 And what's important to know here is that 1840 01:57:16,133 --> 01:57:18,300 when you were young

Link, you ran into a 1841 01:57:18,300 --> 01:57:20,000 lady named Marin, who was a young girl 1842 01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,366 just your age who worked at Long Long 1843 01:57:22,366 --> 01:57:24,100 Ranch and you made friends with her and 1844 01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:24,699 you made friends with 1845 01:57:24,699 --> 01:57:25,899 this little baby horse. 1846 01:57:26,633 --> 01:57:27,699 And before you do anything else, if you 1847 01:57:27,699 --> 01:57:28,800 feel like it, you can go to Long Long 1848 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:29,733 Ranch and there's Marin 1849 01:57:29,733 --> 01:57:30,933 again, but now she's your age. 1850 01:57:30,933 --> 01:57:32,633 She's matured, she's aged. 1851 01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,266 And there's Epona, the 1852 01:57:34,266 --> 01:57:35,366 horse you befriended. 1853 01:57:35,566 --> 01:57:37,199 That horse has aged now and you can, 1854 01:57:37,666 --> 01:57:39,266 through a myriad of couple of things and 1855 01:57:39,266 --> 01:57:41,000 trickery, you can get that horse back and 1856 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,199 now that horse loves you. 1857 01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:43,800 And now you and your horse buddies, 1858 01:57:43,899 --> 01:57:46,166 you've got a horse to kind of ride along 1859 01:57:46,166 --> 01:57:47,399 on Hyrule Field if you'd like. 1860 01:57:47,899 --> 01:57:49,233 Your first thing you're supposed to do 1861 01:57:49,233 --> 01:57:51,433 once you're adult Link, you're 17 years 1862 01:57:51,433 --> 01:57:53,199 old, you go back to 1863 01:57:53,300 --> 01:57:55,433 Kokiri Forest, Kokiri Village. 1864 01:57:55,933 --> 01:57:56,733 You go there 1865 01:57:57,233 --> 01:58:00,233 and all of your Kokiri Village friends 1866 01:58:00,233 --> 01:58:01,633 and family are there too, 1867 01:58:02,133 --> 01:58:03,300 but they haven't aged. 1868 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:04,500 They're the same 1869 01:58:04,500 --> 01:58:05,800 exact age where they were. 1870 01:58:06,266 --> 01:58:06,733 Why? 1871 01:58:06,766 --> 01:58:07,666 Does it tell you why? 1872 01:58:08,166 --> 01:58:08,966 They're getting to that. 1873 01:58:09,133 --> 01:58:09,433 Okay. 1874 01:58:09,933 --> 01:58:10,466 And you're trying to 1875 01:58:10,466 --> 01:58:12,500 find Saria, your friend. 1876 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:13,899 So you go into the Lost 1877 01:58:13,899 --> 01:58:15,533 Woods looking for Saria. 1878 01:58:16,033 --> 01:58:17,266 And turns out Saria is 1879 01:58:17,266 --> 01:58:18,933 captured in the Forest Temple. 1880 01:58:18,966 --> 01:58:19,366 There's like 1881 01:58:19,866 --> 01:58:22,533 six of them, six temples, maybe five 1882 01:58:22,533 --> 01:58:23,866 temples, I forget the math. 1883 01:58:23,866 --> 01:58:24,533 There's nine total 1884 01:58:24,533 --> 01:58:25,399 dungeons, doesn't matter. 1885 01:58:25,899 --> 01:58:26,500 Go through the Forest 1886 01:58:26,500 --> 01:58:27,633 Temple, do the thing. 1887

01:58:27,633 --> 01:58:28,066 The first 1888 01:58:28,566 --> 01:58:31,699 boss you fight is Ganon, but it's not any 1889 01:58:31,699 --> 01:58:33,466 Ganon, it's Phantom Ganon. 1890 01:58:34,166 --> 01:58:35,366 So for a while you think it's the final 1891 01:58:35,366 --> 01:58:36,766 boss, but it's not really the final boss. 1892 01:58:36,766 --> 01:58:38,033 You beat Phantom Ganon, whatever. 1893 01:58:38,633 --> 01:58:41,266 And then you speak to Saria and she tells 1894 01:58:41,266 --> 01:58:42,300 you, she is one of the 1895 01:58:42,300 --> 01:58:45,433 seven sages of Hyrule. 1896 01:58:45,933 --> 01:58:47,833 And this is now revealed to you. 1897 01:58:48,333 --> 01:58:51,566 Link was never a Kokiri Village native. 1898 01:58:52,066 --> 01:58:53,433 Link was actually a Hylian. 1899 01:58:53,933 --> 01:58:56,899 It's implied that he's an orphan, so his 1900 01:58:56,899 --> 01:58:59,333 parents died or something of nature and 1901 01:58:59,333 --> 01:59:00,166 was left in the Kokiri 1902 01:59:00,233 --> 01:59:01,333 Village to be protected. 1903 01:59:01,833 --> 01:59:04,433 And it is now his job this entire time to 1904 01:59:04,433 --> 01:59:05,800 now be the true champion 1905 01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:07,033 of Hyrule and save the day. 1906 01:59:07,533 --> 01:59:08,633 Now, why am I bringing all this up? 1907 01:59:08,866 --> 01:59:09,199 Well, 1908 01:59:09,699 --> 01:59:10,866 we've been talking about fairies. 1909 01:59:11,100 --> 01:59:12,766 Fairies play a huge role here. 1910 01:59:13,233 --> 01:59:14,666 We're also talking about the fact that 1911 01:59:14,733 --> 01:59:16,366 someone is being raised to something that 1912 01:59:16,366 --> 01:59:17,466 they're actually not. 1913 01:59:17,633 --> 01:59:19,366 That's exactly what Link was raised as. 1914 01:59:19,366 --> 01:59:20,466 Link was raised as a Kokiri. 1915 01:59:20,466 --> 01:59:20,899 In fact, there's a 1916 01:59:20,899 --> 01:59:21,866 little bit of disconnect. 1917 01:59:21,899 --> 01:59:22,033 There 1918 01:59:22,533 --> 01:59:23,633 was this implication that there was 1919 01:59:23,633 --> 01:59:26,199 something wrong with Link because a fairy 1920 01:59:26,199 --> 01:59:27,233 wouldn't come find him. 1921 01:59:27,233 --> 01:59:28,933 That's the rule, when you're a Kokiri, if 1922 01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:29,899 a fairy becomes your 1923 01:59:29,899 --> 01:59:31,633 companion, well, there's a reason 1924 01:59:32,133 --> 01:59:33,733 because he wasn't ever really a Kokiri 1925 01:59:34,199 --> 01:59:36,133 and the fairy that he does have, Navi, 1926 01:59:36,366 --> 01:59:38,433 was sent in by, I believe the Sages, I 1927 01:59:38,433 --> 01:59:40,033 could have this detail wrong, but from a 1928 01:59:40,033 --> 01:59:41,066 larger entity in the 1929 01:59:41,066 --> 01:59:42,533 Great Deku Tree and so forth. 1930 01:59:43,033 --> 01:59:44,566 You beat the temple, you beat the bash, 1931 01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:45,833 you get all that stuff. 1932 01:59:46,066 --> 01:59:47,166 You now have this quest, but 1933 01:59:47,166 --> 01:59:48,366 you're also incredibly sad. 1934 01:59:48,866 --> 01:59:50,899 Maren's a grown up, maybe, hopefully 1935 01:59:50,933 --> 01:59:53,066 Zelda is still alive, you don't know, and 1936 01:59:53,066 --> 01:59:54,166 Saria, your best friend, who there was 1937 01:59:54,166 --> 01:59:55,366 like a little bit of a-- 1938 01:59:56,066 --> 01:59:56,833 Like a little flirt thing. 1939 01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:57,733 A little flirt thing. 1940 01:59:57,733 --> 01:59:58,733 And now it's clear that's 1941 01:59:58,733 --> 02:00:00,433 never gonna happen, ever. 1942 02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,333 And here's the crazy thing, there's a 1943 02:00:02,333 --> 02:00:04,133 moment right before Link leaves the 1944 02:00:04,133 --> 02:00:05,000 village the first time 1945 02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:06,100 when he's a young little boy. 1946 02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,366 Saria gives Link the first ocarina, not 1947 02:00:09,366 --> 02:00:10,500 the Ocarina of Time, just a 1948 02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:12,399 regular old ocarina. 1949 02:00:12,566 --> 02:00:14,300 There's an implication, like she knows 1950 02:00:14,533 --> 02:00:16,466 she's never gonna see him again 1951 02:00:16,966 --> 02:00:17,766 and lets her go. 1952 02:00:18,100 --> 02:00:19,666 And that's because she's a Sage and knew 1953 02:00:19,666 --> 02:00:21,366 that, hey, I'm a Sage and this is your 1954 02:00:21,366 --> 02:00:22,899 quest and I will not see you again. 1955 02:00:23,399 --> 02:00:24,766 There's another element here though, is 1956 02:00:24,766 --> 02:00:25,766 that there's an argument, 1957 02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:27,166 I'd like to make the argument. 1958 02:00:27,399 --> 02:00:29,933 This is my spicy little argument. 1959 02:00:29,966 --> 02:00:30,399 Okay. 1960 02:00:30,899 --> 02:00:33,833 Yeah, the Kokiri people raised Link, 1961 02:00:33,866 --> 02:00:36,199 young Link especially, but once Link 1962 02:00:36,199 --> 02:00:39,300 turns of age, once Link goes on this 1963 02:00:39,300 --> 02:00:41,699 quest, the people that actually raised 1964 02:00:41,699 --> 02:00:43,033 him are the fairies. 1965 02:00:43,166 --> 02:00:43,733 Okay. 1966 02:00:44,433 --> 02:00:47,000 There are four, I believe, great fairies 1967 02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:48,766 you can find throughout all of Hyrule. 1968 02:00:49,533 --> 02:00:51,000 When you find them, they take care of 1969 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:52,866 you, they give you some kind of stat 1970 02:00:52,866 --> 02:00:54,566 boost, they magically imbue you with 1971 02:00:54,566 --> 02:00:55,833 something, they tell you how grateful 1972 02:00:55,833 --> 02:00:57,633 they are for you, they wanna make sure 1973 02:00:57,633 --> 02:00:58,966 they take care of you at all times, you 1974 02:00:58,966 -->

02:01:01,800 can always run back into these great 1975 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:02,300 fairies and they'll 1976 02:01:02,300 --> 02:01:03,466 heal you up to full life. 1977 02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:06,433 And I need to remind you that when many 1978 02:01:06,933 --> 02:01:08,866 young kids were playing this game, myself 1979 02:01:08,866 --> 02:01:10,699 included, we were all pipsqueak kids and 1980 02:01:10,699 --> 02:01:13,733 these little fairies had pointy tatas, 1981 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:17,466 very large tatas, polygonal tatas. 1982 02:01:17,466 --> 02:01:19,033 You enjoyed this mod also. 1983 02:01:19,166 --> 02:01:20,699 Yes, of course. 1984 02:01:21,199 --> 02:01:22,100 And we always 1985 02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:24,433 make fun of the tatas whenever we ran 1986 02:01:24,433 --> 02:01:27,399 into them in mid-game and so forth. 1987 02:01:27,899 --> 02:01:30,433 Other elements include running into Maren 1988 02:01:30,466 --> 02:01:33,066 and some kind of implication that maybe 1989 02:01:33,066 --> 02:01:34,399 something might happen there because 1990 02:01:34,399 --> 02:01:36,466 she's also of your age, right? 1991 02:01:36,466 --> 02:01:39,666 But then also running into Zelda, which 1992 02:01:39,666 --> 02:01:40,533 there's a twist at the 1993 02:01:40,533 --> 02:01:42,233 very end of who Zelda is, 1994 02:01:42,733 --> 02:01:45,333 the twist of course is that as you 1995 02:01:45,333 --> 02:01:46,466 become, as you get to 1996 02:01:46,966 --> 02:01:48,333 this other, the old 1997 02:01:48,833 --> 02:01:51,800 adult links world, this character called 1998 02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:53,566 Sheik keeps helping you throughout your 1999 02:01:53,566 --> 02:01:56,000 quest and Sheik appears to be a man. 2000 02:01:56,433 --> 02:01:58,600 But at the very last minute, it is found 2001 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,566 out that Sheik is Zelda 2002 02:02:01,166 --> 02:02:02,733 having covered her tracks. 2003 02:02:02,899 --> 02:02:03,699 Spoiler. 2004 02:02:03,966 --> 02:02:05,266 Yeah, hey, spoilers, right? 2005 02:02:05,366 --> 02:02:06,033 That was one of the rules. 2006 02:02:06,033 --> 02:02:06,733 We can talk about spoilers. 2007 02:02:06,733 --> 02:02:06,966 Yes, all spoilers. 2008 02:02:07,466 --> 02:02:09,199 She can cover her tracks so that 2009 02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:10,966 Ganondorf could never find her. 2010 02:02:11,466 --> 02:02:12,766 And then of course she gets kidnapped the 2011 02:02:12,766 --> 02:02:13,399 moment she reveals 2012 02:02:13,399 --> 02:02:15,066 herself basically, but whatever. 2013 02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:16,566 It's all right, it's fine 2014 02:02:17,066 --> 02:02:17,833 for those that are 2015 02:02:18,333 --> 02:02:18,899 wondering. 2016 02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:20,500 Pet tax. 2017 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,899 Pet tax, our pet is hanging out with us. 2018 02:02:24,399 --> 02:02:25,766 He's the big furry thing. 2019 02:02:26,266

--> 02:02:26,533 Yeah. 2020 02:02:27,033 --> 02:02:30,566 And so, it's a Nintang doll game. 2021 02:02:30,566 --> 02:02:33,066 So the romance is always gonna be 2022 02:02:33,066 --> 02:02:36,733 incredibly, very like faintly suggested. 2023 02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:37,199 I see. 2024 02:02:37,266 --> 02:02:37,933 And nothing ever 2025 02:02:37,933 --> 02:02:39,466 really truly happens there. 2026 02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,699 But the big themes are fairies, being 2027 02:02:42,699 --> 02:02:44,633 raised as something that is not yourself. 2028 02:02:45,133 --> 02:02:46,800 The benefits that you have as a result, 2029 02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:48,800 like for instance, Link is able to grow 2030 02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,733 strong and be a big boy, yet he has like 2031 02:02:51,733 --> 02:02:53,133 the upbringing of being a coquery. 2032 02:02:53,633 --> 02:02:55,100 And what else, what 2033 02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:56,266 else, what else, what else? 2034 02:02:56,266 --> 02:02:59,933 Oh, and then there's the fairy elements. 2035 02:03:00,433 --> 02:03:01,266 I think that's all I got. 2036 02:03:01,533 --> 02:03:04,233 No, there's plenty more because there's a 2037 02:03:04,233 --> 02:03:05,600 whole water temple thing, right? 2038 02:03:05,766 --> 02:03:06,600 There is a water temple, man. 2039 02:03:06,699 --> 02:03:07,800 Everybody hates it, right? 2040 02:03:07,899 --> 02:03:08,800 Everybody fucking hates the 2041 02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:09,899 water temple, except for me. 2042 02:03:09,899 --> 02:03:11,433 But yes, legitimately 2043 02:03:11,433 --> 02:03:12,500 people hate the water temple. 2044 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,033 In the second book, which 2045 02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:15,199 I'm not really talking about. 2046 02:03:15,433 --> 02:03:16,800 Oh, thank you, okay, keep going. 2047 02:03:16,833 --> 02:03:17,666 In the second book, 2048 02:03:18,166 --> 02:03:20,899 Jude gets like kidnapped by 2049 02:03:21,233 --> 02:03:22,800 the queen of the undersea. 2050 02:03:23,133 --> 02:03:24,500 And she has this whole 2051 02:03:24,500 --> 02:03:26,600 torture scene under there. 2052 02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:28,466 So, you know, there's 2053 02:03:28,466 --> 02:03:30,633 hating the water, very important. 2054 02:03:31,133 --> 02:03:32,366 Hating the water, okay. 2055 02:03:32,733 --> 02:03:33,866 All right, fair enough, fair enough. 2056 02:03:34,133 --> 02:03:34,699 There's one more 2057 02:03:34,699 --> 02:03:35,633 thing I forgot to mention. 2058 02:03:35,899 --> 02:03:37,800 I'm sorry, this is actually the big one. 2059 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:38,266 Okay. 2060 02:03:38,766 --> 02:03:39,699 In video games, it's 2061 02:03:39,699 --> 02:03:41,899 not common for them to 2062 02:03:42,399 --> 02:03:44,733 make a trilogy with a plan. 2063 02:03:44,733 --> 02:03:46,600 Like we're gonna make this a trilogy. 2064 02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:47,966 That's not a common thing.

2065 02:03:47,966 --> 02:03:49,866 What, but I have played "Kingdom Hearts." 2066 02:03:50,366 --> 02:03:51,300 No, no, no, let me, 2067 02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:52,233 hold on. 2068 02:03:52,866 --> 02:03:53,366 Okay, go ahead. 2069 02:03:54,033 --> 02:03:55,633 As in they don't make the first game 2070 02:03:55,633 --> 02:03:57,399 going, this is going to be a trilogy. 2071 02:03:57,433 --> 02:03:58,466 Yes, that was my joke. 2072 02:03:58,966 --> 02:03:59,633 (Both Laughing) 2073 02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:01,399 "Kingdom Hearts" has like 12 games. 2074 02:04:01,399 --> 02:04:02,766 "Souls," it's also got three games. 2075 02:04:02,766 --> 02:04:03,366 Also- 2076 02:04:03,733 --> 02:04:05,300 Also none of them make any sense. 2077 02:04:05,300 --> 02:04:05,766 No, it makes any sense. 2078 02:04:05,766 --> 02:04:06,766 So you're not gonna be with each other. 2079 02:04:07,266 --> 02:04:07,833 Okay, go ahead. 2080 02:04:08,333 --> 02:04:09,433 So that's pretty common. 2081 02:04:10,033 --> 02:04:11,566 Zelda up until this point, 2082 02:04:11,666 --> 02:04:13,000 the fifth game in the series, 2083 02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:14,800 it had dabbled with 2084 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:16,033 the idea of duologies. 2085 02:04:16,533 --> 02:04:18,866 So Zelda one, then there's Zelda two. 2086 02:04:19,366 --> 02:04:21,000 Then we reset and go to Zelda three. 2087 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:22,933 And that's a new brand new continuity, 2088 02:04:22,933 --> 02:04:24,166 brand new whatever, totally 2089 02:04:24,166 --> 02:04:25,433 unrelated to the other Zelda. 2090 02:04:25,833 --> 02:04:27,333 In some ways you could argue that Zelda 2091 02:04:27,333 --> 02:04:29,133 three is a remake of Zelda one. 2092 02:04:29,766 --> 02:04:32,333 And then you've got the continuation of 2093 02:04:32,433 --> 02:04:33,600 "Link's Awakening," which I'd love to 2094 02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:34,566 talk about at some point. 2095 02:04:34,566 --> 02:04:35,733 It's one of my favorite games of all time. 2096 02:04:35,733 --> 02:04:37,866 And it's a great game to talk about like 2097 02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:39,766 PTSD and all that stuff. 2098 02:04:39,766 --> 02:04:40,833 Like it's just so good. 2099 02:04:41,300 --> 02:04:42,800 And you reset again 2100 02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:43,866 into "Aquarian of Time." 2101 02:04:44,366 --> 02:04:46,399 "Aquarian of Time," I would argue, is the 2102 02:04:46,399 --> 02:04:48,100 beginning of a trilogy. 2103 02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:50,166 I see, okay. 2104 02:04:50,366 --> 02:04:52,166 What's next? 2105 02:04:52,300 --> 02:04:54,133 What is the rest of the trilogy? 2106 02:04:54,533 --> 02:04:58,800 So the next piece of the trilogy, so I'm 2107 02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:00,333 saying this, there's a bunch of Zelda 2108 02:05:00,333 --> 02:05:01,733 fans right now telling me I'm wrong. 2109 02:05:01,733 --> 02:05:02,333 I'm gonna tell them 2110 02:05:02,333 --> 02:05:03,266 right in just a second. 2111 02:05:04,033 --> 02:05:04,066 But 2112 02:05:04,566 --> 02:05:05,866 they'd argue there's a duology here. 2113 02:05:05,899 --> 02:05:07,333 There's "Aquarian of Time," then there's 2114 02:05:07,333 --> 02:05:09,000 a continuation called "Majora's Mask." 2115 02:05:09,500 --> 02:05:09,899 And 2116 02:05:10,399 --> 02:05:11,233 that's a really sad 2117 02:05:11,233 --> 02:05:12,966 and amazing game because 2118 02:05:13,466 --> 02:05:14,699 Link saves the day, 2119 02:05:15,233 --> 02:05:17,633 but Zelda realizes she was foolish to 2120 02:05:17,633 --> 02:05:19,300 have made Link do what he did. 2121 02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:20,133 And so she reverts 2122 02:05:20,166 --> 02:05:21,466 everything back to the way they was. 2123 02:05:21,466 --> 02:05:23,899 So he's back to being young Link, but he 2124 02:05:23,899 --> 02:05:25,533 has all of the knowledge of when he was 2125 02:05:25,533 --> 02:05:28,533 adult Link in this experience, and no one 2126 02:05:28,533 --> 02:05:30,300 knows what led to whatever it led to. 2127 02:05:30,366 --> 02:05:31,399 Oh my gosh, that's so sad. 2128 02:05:32,166 --> 02:05:33,833 And there's an implication that it's a 2129 02:05:33,833 --> 02:05:35,966 time loop because Link keeps repeating it 2130 02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,333 over and over and 2131 02:05:37,333 --> 02:05:38,766 over, and it'll never end. 2132 02:05:38,933 --> 02:05:39,233 Right. 2133 02:05:39,733 --> 02:05:43,100 In "Majora's Mask," I guess the time loop 2134 02:05:43,100 --> 02:05:44,466 doesn't happen anymore or whatever. 2135 02:05:44,699 --> 02:05:46,466 He continues on his adventures as young 2136 02:05:46,466 --> 02:05:47,199 little boy Link, he 2137 02:05:47,233 --> 02:05:48,566 gets lost in the woods, 2138 02:05:49,066 --> 02:05:51,033 Navi gets kidnapped, and 2139 02:05:51,033 --> 02:05:52,666 so does Epona, I believe. 2140 02:05:53,399 --> 02:05:55,666 Yes, Navi and Epona get kidnapped, and 2141 02:05:55,733 --> 02:05:57,133 Navi is like his biggest companion. 2142 02:05:57,133 --> 02:06:00,300 His fairy from before gets kidnapped, and 2143 02:06:00,366 --> 02:06:02,266 he's off to find the lost 2144 02:06:02,266 --> 02:06:04,600 kid who stole Navi from him. 2145 02:06:04,633 --> 02:06:06,899 And he comes upon the place called 2146 02:06:06,899 --> 02:06:09,266 Termina, Termina Village, Termina Field, 2147 02:06:09,766 --> 02:06:10,533 and 2148 02:06:11,033 --> 02:06:13,133 finds out that the moon is crashing, and 2149 02:06:13,133 --> 02:06:14,833 the moon will destroy the world in three 2150 02:06:14,833 --> 02:06:17,166 days, and he has three days to stop the 2151 02:06:17,366 --> 02:06:18,166 world from crashing. 2152 02:06:18,166 --> 02:06:19,933 Of course, he fails the first time, finds 2153 02:06:19,933 --> 02:06:21,566 a way to reverse time and keep going back 2154 02:06:21,566 --> 02:06:22,899 and

forth and back and forth and do all 2155 02:06:22,899 --> 02:06:25,000 these things and go through dungeons and 2156 02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:25,699 try to stop the whole 2157 02:06:25,699 --> 02:06:26,500 thing from happening. 2158 02:06:26,566 --> 02:06:27,833 That's the second game, 2159 02:06:28,333 --> 02:06:29,133 but there's a third game. 2160 02:06:29,333 --> 02:06:30,399 What's the third game? 2161 02:06:30,899 --> 02:06:31,399 Wind Waker. 2162 02:06:31,899 --> 02:06:34,399 Oh, how does it fit in? 2163 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:36,533 So Wind Waker, you play the game, and it 2164 02:06:36,566 --> 02:06:37,433 looks like it's a brand new 2165 02:06:37,433 --> 02:06:39,433 game, brand new art style. 2166 02:06:40,233 --> 02:06:41,766 People were very upset by this art style. 2167 02:06:41,766 --> 02:06:42,866 I fucking love "Toon Link." 2168 02:06:42,866 --> 02:06:43,666 I think it's gorgeous, 2169 02:06:44,233 --> 02:06:45,233 and it's totally different. 2170 02:06:45,233 --> 02:06:46,899 You're on the ocean the entire time. 2171 02:06:46,899 --> 02:06:48,033 Like the whole world is filled with 2172 02:06:48,033 --> 02:06:48,866 water, and it's the 2173 02:06:48,866 --> 02:06:51,433 ocean and all that stuff. 2174 02:06:51,933 --> 02:06:54,433 But it's indicated that Ocarina of Time 2175 02:06:54,933 --> 02:06:56,233 happened in this world's 2176 02:06:56,233 --> 02:06:58,300 history, but a very long time ago. 2177 02:06:58,800 --> 02:06:59,633 But you're not really sure 2178 02:06:59,633 --> 02:07:01,000 how and why and all that stuff. 2179 02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:02,666 And then towards the end, 2180 02:07:03,166 --> 02:07:04,800 you're in this big sea, and you're trying 2181 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,699 to save your sister, and there's pirates 2182 02:07:07,699 --> 02:07:09,033 and all this other weird stuff. 2183 02:07:09,033 --> 02:07:11,766 Towards the very end, you have to find 2184 02:07:11,866 --> 02:07:13,733 these pieces of Triforce, and you find 2185 02:07:13,733 --> 02:07:15,366 the pieces of Triforce and you unlock the 2186 02:07:15,366 --> 02:07:19,333 gateway to get to old, old Hyrule Castle. 2187 02:07:19,833 --> 02:07:21,133 And old Hyrule Castle 2188 02:07:21,166 --> 02:07:22,433 is underneath the sea. 2189 02:07:23,066 --> 02:07:23,533 Oh. 2190 02:07:24,033 --> 02:07:25,933 And the world you've been inhabiting this 2191 02:07:25,933 --> 02:07:29,100 entire game is above where the original 2192 02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:30,433 Hyrule had been, where 2193 02:07:30,466 --> 02:07:32,100 Ocarina of Time had existed. 2194 02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:35,233 And then you get to the Temple of Time, 2195 02:07:35,733 --> 02:07:37,199 where the Master Sword was. 2196 02:07:37,699 --> 02:07:39,199 And then you have to fulfill the destiny 2197 02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:41,800 and do the things that the prior hero of 2198 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:43,399 time, which

was Young Link, who was an 2199 02:07:43,399 --> 02:07:44,966 adult, had done before. 2200 02:07:45,466 --> 02:07:46,133 And so really, it's a 2201 02:07:46,133 --> 02:07:48,066 trilogy when you think about it. 2202 02:07:48,566 --> 02:07:49,233 I love that. 2203 02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:51,333 And it's the first time that we got a 2204 02:07:51,333 --> 02:07:52,733 trilogy, and it's the first time we got 2205 02:07:52,733 --> 02:07:54,399 this idea that maybe all of 2206 02:07:54,399 --> 02:07:56,166 these games are all connected. 2207 02:07:56,399 --> 02:07:58,399 See, before, they were not all connected. 2208 02:07:58,399 --> 02:08:00,699 Before it was like, Zelda I, Zelda II. 2209 02:08:00,833 --> 02:08:02,433 Okay, now Zelda III, Zelda IV. 2210 02:08:02,433 --> 02:08:03,633 Okay, Zelda V, Ocarina of 2211 02:08:03,633 --> 02:08:05,166 Time, and the Majora's Mask. 2212 02:08:05,166 --> 02:08:07,399 Okay, Wind Waker was the first one that 2213 02:08:07,399 --> 02:08:09,800 said, "Hey, they're all, they might all 2214 02:08:09,833 --> 02:08:10,699 have some kind of 2215 02:08:10,699 --> 02:08:11,899 relationship with each other." 2216 02:08:11,966 --> 02:08:14,366 Maybe these are all one story. 2217 02:08:14,533 --> 02:08:16,600 Maybe, maybe. 2218 02:08:17,100 --> 02:08:18,433 So that's the big 2219 02:08:18,433 --> 02:08:19,433 thing that I got for us. 2220 02:08:19,433 --> 02:08:20,199 That's my big 2221 02:08:20,699 --> 02:08:21,600 narrative leap there. 2222 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:23,300 But I think it's got some sauce. 2223 02:08:23,300 --> 02:08:23,833 What do you think? 2224 02:08:23,833 --> 02:08:25,066 I think it's got a lot of sauce. 2225 02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:25,600 I think there are a 2226 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:26,699 lot of connections here. 2227 02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:30,366 I like the idea of each game being a 2228 02:08:30,366 --> 02:08:32,600 trilogy and not kind of intentionally 2229 02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,333 necessarily, but kind of like 2230 02:08:35,833 --> 02:08:38,466 it has a little through line situation. 2231 02:08:38,966 --> 02:08:42,000 I think, I don't have any proof of this, 2232 02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:45,333 but I think that Holly Black wrote this 2233 02:08:45,933 --> 02:08:49,533 story almost all as one, but then because 2234 02:08:49,566 --> 02:08:51,666 of it being a young adult book and being 2235 02:08:51,666 --> 02:08:53,100 marketed in that certain way, 2236 02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:55,066 publishing companies think the kids don't 2237 02:08:55,066 --> 02:08:56,266 wanna read long books. 2238 02:08:56,766 --> 02:08:58,333 Also, there's more money if we can split 2239 02:08:58,333 --> 02:08:59,366 it up into three books, right? 2240 02:08:59,366 --> 02:08:59,399 Of course. 2241 02:08:59,399 --> 02:09:00,566 And it's a fantasy, so it 2242 02:09:00,566 --> 02:09:02,000 has to be a trilogy, right? 2243 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:02,866 Of course, yeah. 2244 02:09:03,366 --> 02:09:05,000 I feel like maybe it was all one book at 2245 02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,133 one point and it got chopped up into 2246 02:09:07,633 --> 02:09:08,300 bits. 2247 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,566 Yeah, I have no proof of that. 2248 02:09:11,066 --> 02:09:12,500 I think that's fascinating. 2249 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:14,766 Yeah, I thought it was too. 2250 02:09:15,266 --> 02:09:16,333 I didn't mention this at 2251 02:09:16,333 --> 02:09:18,033 all, but Jude's real father 2252 02:09:18,533 --> 02:09:21,533 is also a blacksmith and there's this 2253 02:09:21,533 --> 02:09:22,866 whole thing where she gets a sword and 2254 02:09:22,866 --> 02:09:24,666 it's really important because it's like a 2255 02:09:24,666 --> 02:09:26,133 sword that he forged for her. 2256 02:09:26,133 --> 02:09:28,699 So there's a master sword there too. 2257 02:09:28,699 --> 02:09:30,466 I think it's called Nightfell maybe, 2258 02:09:30,500 --> 02:09:31,333 something like that. 2259 02:09:31,833 --> 02:09:32,866 Interesting, yeah. 2260 02:09:33,366 --> 02:09:35,399 And the fairies are nice in yours. 2261 02:09:35,899 --> 02:09:37,466 Well, in the second game, 2262 02:09:37,966 --> 02:09:41,633 the other fairy you inherit is mean. 2263 02:09:42,366 --> 02:09:42,699 Oh. 2264 02:09:42,733 --> 02:09:45,633 Not cool, not a good thing, but 2265 02:09:46,133 --> 02:09:48,600 okay, so to simplify this. 2266 02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,566 Lost kid boy thing 2267 02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:51,933 takes your fairy, Navi. 2268 02:09:52,433 --> 02:09:54,933 And then the fairy that's left used to be 2269 02:09:54,933 --> 02:09:56,333 the lost boy's kid fairy. 2270 02:09:57,100 --> 02:09:58,500 And he's trying to get back to that lost 2271 02:09:58,500 --> 02:09:59,933 boy's kid and it's kind of upset that 2272 02:09:59,933 --> 02:10:01,666 lost kid just left him, 2273 02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:05,699 but he's not a cool fairy. 2274 02:10:05,699 --> 02:10:06,733 He's kind of mean-spirited. 2275 02:10:07,066 --> 02:10:08,266 He beats you up a lot. 2276 02:10:08,266 --> 02:10:09,366 He's mean to you. 2277 02:10:10,100 --> 02:10:11,533 And there's this relationship of like, 2278 02:10:11,533 --> 02:10:12,866 "Oh man, why did he abandon me?" 2279 02:10:12,866 --> 02:10:13,800 That kind of thing. 2280 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,566 And there's an element of that there. 2281 02:10:15,566 --> 02:10:16,833 But yeah, I would say there's some, 2282 02:10:17,333 --> 02:10:19,066 in the truest sense, there's 2283 02:10:19,066 --> 02:10:22,266 no evil, evil, evil fairies. 2284 02:10:22,266 --> 02:10:24,233 But I think there's room for 2285 02:10:24,233 --> 02:10:25,666 interpretation and there's room for a 2286 02:10:25,666 --> 02:10:26,666 larger space where 2287 02:10:26,666 --> 02:10:28,199 that could exist for sure. 2288 02:10:28,466 --> 02:10:28,766 Right.

2289 02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:30,699 Usually in the world of Zelda, 2290 02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:32,833 fairies are a place of 2291 02:10:32,833 --> 02:10:34,100 rejuvenating your health. 2292 02:10:34,566 --> 02:10:35,199 Yeah. 2293 02:10:35,699 --> 02:10:37,366 That is quite the opposite in my book. 2294 02:10:37,399 --> 02:10:39,633 Fairies are cruel. 2295 02:10:40,199 --> 02:10:42,300 They're beautiful. 2296 02:10:42,766 --> 02:10:44,133 Like I said, ethereal. 2297 02:10:44,633 --> 02:10:46,233 So gorgeous it hurts to look at them. 2298 02:10:46,300 --> 02:10:48,233 Or they can be super grotesque. 2299 02:10:48,533 --> 02:10:52,600 Like Madoc is green and the roach is like 2300 02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:55,533 shriveled and a goblin and 2301 02:10:55,733 --> 02:10:57,466 they've got sharp pointy teeth. 2302 02:10:57,466 --> 02:10:57,833 And 2303 02:10:58,333 --> 02:10:59,666 sometimes they have wings. 2304 02:10:59,833 --> 02:11:02,566 Oh, there's this whole thing where Cardin 2305 02:11:02,566 --> 02:11:03,733 actually has a tail. 2306 02:11:04,233 --> 02:11:05,600 A lot of people don't like that he has a 2307 02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:08,100 tail, like in Book Talk World. 2308 02:11:08,333 --> 02:11:10,300 And he even in the book 2309 02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:13,100 hides his tail in his pants. 2310 02:11:13,433 --> 02:11:14,766 And so like there's this whole 2311 02:11:14,766 --> 02:11:15,866 interrogation scene 2312 02:11:16,166 --> 02:11:17,600 and he's like, oh, what? 2313 02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:18,800 You don't wanna see my tail. 2314 02:11:19,066 --> 02:11:21,300 Like it's like a, it's a joke. 2315 02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:23,300 So it's kind of very tongue in cheek. 2316 02:11:23,766 --> 02:11:24,433 Does anybody have a 2317 02:11:24,433 --> 02:11:27,399 tail in Ocarina of Time? 2318 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:30,166 Yes, the Zoras I believe have tails. 2319 02:11:30,666 --> 02:11:33,066 You know, it's a lion's tail too. 2320 02:11:33,566 --> 02:11:35,233 Well, the Zoras are a fish people. 2321 02:11:35,333 --> 02:11:36,100 Oh, nevermind. 2322 02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:36,866 So nevermind, yeah. 2323 02:11:37,366 --> 02:11:37,833 Yeah, 2324 02:11:38,333 --> 02:11:39,233 I mean, so, 2325 02:11:39,733 --> 02:11:40,699 and then fairies in 2326 02:11:40,699 --> 02:11:42,466 Zelda III, it was weird. 2327 02:11:42,466 --> 02:11:43,266 Some of them, most of 2328 02:11:43,266 --> 02:11:44,300 them were always overweight. 2329 02:11:44,333 --> 02:11:45,766 I don't know why, but they painted 2330 02:11:45,766 --> 02:11:47,433 depicted fairies out of fountains being 2331 02:11:47,433 --> 02:11:49,500 overweight and you could throw stuff into 2332 02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:50,633 the fairy fountain and 2333 02:11:51,133 --> 02:11:52,166 sometimes you get something. 2334 02:11:52,166 --> 02:11:53,166 Sometimes you get bad stuff. 2335 02:11:53,166 --> 02:11:54,766 Sometimes they

would spit a bomb at you. 2336 02:11:55,266 --> 02:11:57,100 There's a kind of a macabre way in which 2337 02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:59,766 they paint fairies, the great fairies in 2338 02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:01,633 Ocarina of Time that makes you think like 2339 02:12:01,633 --> 02:12:03,433 they're only being nice to you, Link. 2340 02:12:03,966 --> 02:12:04,633 Interesting. 2341 02:12:05,133 --> 02:12:06,666 Like they wouldn't be nice to everyone 2342 02:12:06,666 --> 02:12:08,333 else, but they're nice to you. 2343 02:12:08,833 --> 02:12:10,399 Because no one else talks about fairies, 2344 02:12:10,399 --> 02:12:11,466 actually, now they think about it. 2345 02:12:11,966 --> 02:12:13,766 And you can find random fairies hanging 2346 02:12:13,766 --> 02:12:15,033 out and they'll heal a couple of hearts 2347 02:12:15,033 --> 02:12:16,266 for you, but you can trap 2348 02:12:16,266 --> 02:12:17,333 them in your little bottles. 2349 02:12:17,333 --> 02:12:18,399 In the bottle, mm-hmm. 2350 02:12:18,899 --> 02:12:20,633 Yeah, a stat that I would 2351 02:12:20,633 --> 02:12:21,866 do in the game, a trick. 2352 02:12:22,366 --> 02:12:23,800 So I could not pay attention to my health 2353 02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:24,500 as I would just stack 2354 02:12:24,500 --> 02:12:26,233 my bottles with fairies. 2355 02:12:26,733 --> 02:12:28,633 And if you had that, anytime you die, 2356 02:12:29,033 --> 02:12:32,033 you'd go, "Doom, doom, and the graphics, 2357 02:12:32,033 --> 02:12:33,133 the lights would go out." 2358 02:12:33,633 --> 02:12:34,899 And then you see this little light come 2359 02:12:34,899 --> 02:12:36,266 through in your body and the fairy would 2360 02:12:36,266 --> 02:12:37,666 come and heal a little bit of your health 2361 02:12:37,666 --> 02:12:38,333 and you'd come back. 2362 02:12:38,433 --> 02:12:39,266 I always thought that was neat. 2363 02:12:39,766 --> 02:12:40,933 I thought that was neat. 2364 02:12:41,433 --> 02:12:44,300 How about, well, is Link an elf? 2365 02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:45,833 He is a Hylilian. 2366 02:12:46,300 --> 02:12:47,266 Yeah, he's like a winking elf. 2367 02:12:47,266 --> 02:12:49,166 I think Hylilians are... 2368 02:12:49,666 --> 02:12:52,033 I don't think that Nintendo would wanna 2369 02:12:52,033 --> 02:12:54,399 say they're elfish, but I mean... 2370 02:12:54,899 --> 02:12:55,633 Yeah, kind of. 2371 02:12:55,633 --> 02:12:56,933 They're elfish, you know? 2372 02:12:57,199 --> 02:12:58,033 They all have pointy ears. 2373 02:12:58,233 --> 02:12:59,600 It's the pointy ears for me. 2374 02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,366 So we don't talk really about elves much 2375 02:13:03,399 --> 02:13:05,899 in the modern fairy tales, but 2376 02:13:06,399 --> 02:13:07,666 they do have pointy 2377 02:13:07,666 --> 02:13:10,233 ears, which pretty important. 2378 02:13:10,733 --> 02:13:12,433 So another comparison. 2379 02:13:12,699 --> 02:13:14,866

Another thing that is similar. 2380 02:13:15,199 --> 02:13:15,466 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2381 02:13:15,966 --> 02:13:17,899 I mean, it's all about royalty to 2382 02:13:17,966 --> 02:13:21,166 princesses and whatnot, princess, prince. 2383 02:13:21,666 --> 02:13:22,533 Yeah, it's strange. 2384 02:13:22,866 --> 02:13:24,100 In Ocarina, you don't even 2385 02:13:24,133 --> 02:13:26,199 get a whiff of who the king is. 2386 02:13:26,699 --> 02:13:28,133 think the king might be out of town the 2387 02:13:28,133 --> 02:13:29,333 week Ganondorf does what he does. 2388 02:13:29,333 --> 02:13:31,333 I think that's part, it's been a while. 2389 02:13:31,833 --> 02:13:33,333 But the only royalty you really see 2390 02:13:33,333 --> 02:13:34,433 beyond the royal guard 2391 02:13:34,666 --> 02:13:37,733 in Impa is Zelda herself. 2392 02:13:38,233 --> 02:13:38,533 Yeah. 2393 02:13:39,033 --> 02:13:41,399 Ganondorf is a 2394 02:13:41,899 --> 02:13:44,266 birthed by the Geridoo people, and the 2395 02:13:44,300 --> 02:13:45,600 Geridoo people are all women. 2396 02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:46,733 All of them. 2397 02:13:46,966 --> 02:13:47,766 All women. 2398 02:13:48,300 --> 02:13:49,366 And he's a man. 2399 02:13:49,666 --> 02:13:51,300 He's a man, and I think whoever the man 2400 02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:54,933 is becomes like the prince thief person. 2401 02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:55,500 Ew. 2402 02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:57,500 Why do you have to have a whole women 2403 02:13:57,500 --> 02:13:58,399 tribe and then the 2404 02:13:58,399 --> 02:13:59,866 only man is the prince? 2405 02:14:00,133 --> 02:14:02,666 But I believe he got exiled because he 2406 02:14:02,666 --> 02:14:04,733 was that evil that the Geridoo people 2407 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:06,066 kicked him out, I think 2408 02:14:06,066 --> 02:14:06,899 that's- He's a baddie. 2409 02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:07,633 Yeah. 2410 02:14:08,133 --> 02:14:09,000 I think we did pretty good. 2411 02:14:09,500 --> 02:14:10,233 What do you think? 2412 02:14:10,333 --> 02:14:10,566 I mean, 2413 02:14:11,066 --> 02:14:12,466 out of all that you brought 2414 02:14:12,466 --> 02:14:13,600 me, that's what I brought. 2415 02:14:13,966 --> 02:14:14,666 You did pretty good. 2416 02:14:15,166 --> 02:14:16,399 There's even more things 2417 02:14:16,399 --> 02:14:17,399 that are gonna be connected. 2418 02:14:17,399 --> 02:14:18,899 I'm struggling to think 2419 02:14:18,899 --> 02:14:19,833 of them at the moment. 2420 02:14:20,333 --> 02:14:21,133 How about twins? 2421 02:14:21,133 --> 02:14:22,100 Are there any twins? 2422 02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:25,533 Yeah, there's lumberjack twins, I think. 2423 02:14:26,033 --> 02:14:27,266 They have to build a bridge for you 2424 02:14:27,766 --> 02:14:29,300 and you have to save them or something. 2425 02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:31,366 But also more importantly, this is the 2426 02:14:31,366 --> 02:14:32,899 return of Dark Link. 2427 02:14:33,699 --> 02:14:35,033 Oh, Dark Link. 2428 02:14:35,766 --> 02:14:39,233 So Dark Link appeared as the final boss. 2429 02:14:39,466 --> 02:14:41,166 Yes, the final boss of Zelda II. 2430 02:14:41,666 --> 02:14:43,533 And then he comes back here and Dark Link 2431 02:14:43,533 --> 02:14:44,966 appears in the water temple. 2432 02:14:45,466 --> 02:14:46,766 And it's cool because you're in this room 2433 02:14:46,766 --> 02:14:48,266 and it's all ice and 2434 02:14:48,266 --> 02:14:49,666 water and whatever, it's hazy. 2435 02:14:49,666 --> 02:14:51,933 And suddenly you're looking at what you 2436 02:14:51,933 --> 02:14:53,833 think is your reflection and guess what? 2437 02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:55,600 No. 2438 02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:56,933 It's a pretty cool moment. 2439 02:14:56,933 --> 02:14:58,100 It's not a boss battle or anything, but 2440 02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:00,333 it's just fun little itty bitty thing. 2441 02:15:00,833 --> 02:15:02,433 Oh, back to Epona. 2442 02:15:03,066 --> 02:15:06,366 Jude rides horses made from dandelions. 2443 02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:07,733 So 2444 02:15:08,233 --> 02:15:10,666 I think her sister Vivi 2445 02:15:10,699 --> 02:15:12,899 tends to, she picks up 2446 02:15:13,399 --> 02:15:15,800 leaves and weeds and whatnot and 2447 02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:17,600 glamorous them into being ponies. 2448 02:15:18,100 --> 02:15:19,433 I'm sure that's what happens. 2449 02:15:19,933 --> 02:15:21,199 And so she's adept at 2450 02:15:21,199 --> 02:15:23,199 riding horses and sparring. 2451 02:15:23,199 --> 02:15:24,166 She likes to duel. 2452 02:15:24,866 --> 02:15:26,133 Like I said, she was gonna be a knight. 2453 02:15:26,566 --> 02:15:27,300 So that's giving. 2454 02:15:27,333 --> 02:15:28,800 Are there any scarecrows in this story? 2455 02:15:28,899 --> 02:15:30,600 Scarecrows, no. 2456 02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:31,300 Okay. 2457 02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:32,933 There's notable scarecrow. 2458 02:15:33,433 --> 02:15:33,466 So 2459 02:15:33,966 --> 02:15:34,466 towards 2460 02:15:34,966 --> 02:15:36,166 the end, you get to travel 2461 02:15:36,166 --> 02:15:37,933 between two to both timelines. 2462 02:15:37,933 --> 02:15:40,600 You get to go back to being young Link 2463 02:15:41,266 --> 02:15:42,399 and go back to adult Link 2464 02:15:42,966 --> 02:15:44,266 and affect things and times. 2465 02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:45,066 So there's a scarecrow. 2466 02:15:45,133 --> 02:15:45,500 That's really cool. 2467 02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:47,966 Who you run into when you're a young Link 2468 02:15:47,966 --> 02:15:49,833 and you just play a bunch of random notes 2469 02:15:49,833 --> 02:15:51,399 on your ocarina and the 2470 02:15:51,399 --> 02:15:52,699 scarecrow loves whatever you play. 2471 02:15:53,199 --> 02:15:54,466 And then you have to remember exactly 2472 02:15:54,466 --> 02:15:56,733 what those notes are

when you go to being 2473 02:15:56,733 --> 02:15:58,166 adult Link and play it back to him. 2474 02:15:58,166 --> 02:15:59,866 And he'll be like, "Oh, it's been so long 2475 02:15:59,866 --> 02:16:01,066 as I've heard that melody." 2476 02:16:01,366 --> 02:16:02,199 Oh, I love that. 2477 02:16:02,233 --> 02:16:03,233 Yeah, the things like that. 2478 02:16:03,233 --> 02:16:03,899 That's cute. 2479 02:16:04,399 --> 02:16:08,500 There's not a time loop or like time 2480 02:16:08,500 --> 02:16:11,566 travel, but there's a time jump from when 2481 02:16:11,566 --> 02:16:13,199 she's six and her parents get murdered. 2482 02:16:13,566 --> 02:16:14,333 And then they jump 2483 02:16:14,333 --> 02:16:16,266 into when she's 17, which 2484 02:16:16,766 --> 02:16:17,399 I mean. 2485 02:16:17,466 --> 02:16:18,133 Whoa. 2486 02:16:18,133 --> 02:16:19,800 Whoa, that's pretty similar. 2487 02:16:19,833 --> 02:16:21,800 That is very similar, wow. 2488 02:16:22,300 --> 02:16:25,399 And there is a little bit of, 2489 02:16:25,899 --> 02:16:27,133 it's puzzle-y, right? 2490 02:16:27,266 --> 02:16:30,733 So for "Legend of Zelda" games, generally 2491 02:16:30,733 --> 02:16:32,000 they're very puzzle-y, right? 2492 02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:32,399 Yeah. 2493 02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:36,799 So in "Fairyland," the fairies, they all 2494 02:16:36,799 --> 02:16:38,600 talk circles around you, right? 2495 02:16:39,133 --> 02:16:42,866 And they often have like riddles or like 2496 02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:45,100 logic loops that you have to kind of jump 2497 02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:46,799 through to figure out what the fairies 2498 02:16:46,799 --> 02:16:48,333 actually trying to like sell you 2499 02:16:48,366 --> 02:16:49,733 basically, because 2500 02:16:49,766 --> 02:16:51,233 everything that they say, 2501 02:16:51,733 --> 02:16:52,600 everything a fairy 2502 02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:55,433 promises you, they have to do it. 2503 02:16:55,766 --> 02:16:56,766 Fairies can't lie. 2504 02:16:56,799 --> 02:16:58,833 So if they tell you something that 2505 02:16:58,833 --> 02:17:00,600 they're gonna do, they have to do it. 2506 02:17:00,966 --> 02:17:02,733 So there's a little bit of like a logic 2507 02:17:02,733 --> 02:17:03,333 thing, a little 2508 02:17:03,333 --> 02:17:04,833 puzzle-y thing going on there. 2509 02:17:05,233 --> 02:17:06,266 Riddles are very 2510 02:17:06,266 --> 02:17:07,666 important in "Fairyland." 2511 02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:09,166 Navi 2512 02:17:09,666 --> 02:17:10,733 is your navigator. 2513 02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:11,299 Yeah. 2514 02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:13,000 She never lies to you, 2515 02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:13,966 ever. 2516 02:17:14,500 --> 02:17:15,366 Doesn't ever hold back 2517 02:17:15,366 --> 02:17:17,899 information at an annoying degree. 2518 02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:19,600 Hello, listen. 2519 02:17:19,766 --> 02:17:21,033 Hey, listen. 2520 02:17:21,166

--> 02:17:22,233 Hey, listen. 2521 02:17:22,566 --> 02:17:23,700 Hey, hey. 2522 02:17:23,833 --> 02:17:24,966 Hey, hey. 2523 02:17:24,966 --> 02:17:25,266 Listen. 2524 02:17:25,766 --> 02:17:26,466 There is a... 2525 02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,066 When you've beaten the game, you can never 2526 02:17:29,066 --> 02:17:30,466 save that you've beaten the game, so 2527 02:17:30,500 --> 02:17:32,000 you're always at the end of the game. 2528 02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:32,366 Right. 2529 02:17:32,866 --> 02:17:34,133 And so if you wanna 2530 02:17:34,133 --> 02:17:35,266 just wander the world, 2531 02:17:35,766 --> 02:17:38,066 the most annoying thing is that, I guess 2532 02:17:38,066 --> 02:17:39,799 the programming on Navi is 2533 02:17:40,299 --> 02:17:42,500 they, I don't know if it's a she, I think 2534 02:17:42,733 --> 02:17:45,500 maybe it's a she, who knows, but they 2535 02:17:45,500 --> 02:17:47,399 keep notifying you to go to 2536 02:17:47,566 --> 02:17:49,833 defeat Ganon over and over 2537 02:17:50,333 --> 02:17:50,866 and over. 2538 02:17:51,633 --> 02:17:52,933 You just have to ignore it every time. 2539 02:17:52,933 --> 02:17:53,866 You just have to ignore it. 2540 02:17:54,500 --> 02:17:56,033 Because, hey, you just have to ignore the 2541 02:17:56,033 --> 02:17:57,000 notification because that's the only 2542 02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:58,033 thing they're gonna keep telling you is 2543 02:17:58,066 --> 02:17:59,266 to go defeat Ganon or 2544 02:17:59,266 --> 02:18:00,333 whatever they're about to say. 2545 02:18:00,399 --> 02:18:02,266 You better finish this goddamn game, kid. 2546 02:18:02,266 --> 02:18:03,866 (Laughs) 2547 02:18:04,366 --> 02:18:05,033 Oh, 2548 02:18:05,533 --> 02:18:07,266 there's a sequence in the Ganon battle 2549 02:18:07,266 --> 02:18:09,366 where I think Ganon hurts Navi. 2550 02:18:10,066 --> 02:18:11,299 Oh, that's so sad. 2551 02:18:11,399 --> 02:18:11,966 Yeah. 2552 02:18:12,500 --> 02:18:14,666 You know, there's a small subtle 2553 02:18:14,666 --> 02:18:15,966 indication that Navi's 2554 02:18:15,966 --> 02:18:17,100 kinda like your best friend now. 2555 02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:19,466 Navi's like your bud. 2556 02:18:19,966 --> 02:18:20,733 There's 2557 02:18:21,233 --> 02:18:23,366 beautiful, beautiful fan art 2558 02:18:23,566 --> 02:18:25,399 of all of these characters. 2559 02:18:25,733 --> 02:18:28,700 And I kinda think Madoc, the way that 2560 02:18:28,700 --> 02:18:30,033 they describe him, looks a lot like 2561 02:18:30,033 --> 02:18:31,166 Ganondorf, actually. 2562 02:18:31,266 --> 02:18:31,666 Yeah? 2563 02:18:31,733 --> 02:18:32,100 Yeah. 2564 02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:33,500 We'll have to pull up. 2565 02:18:33,533 --> 02:18:34,433 Okay, now I need you to 2566 02:18:34,433 --> 02:18:37,433 look up Madoc, Cruel Prince, 2567 02:18:37,933 --> 02:18:39,866 and show everybody the comparison. 2568 02:18:39,899 -->

02:18:40,799 Yep, that's exactly the 2569 02:18:40,799 --> 02:18:41,966 picture I was thinking of, too. 2570 02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:43,366 Wow, that really is- 2571 02:18:43,866 --> 02:18:44,799 Ganondorf inspired. 2572 02:18:44,866 --> 02:18:46,866 That is Ganondorf inspired. 2573 02:18:46,866 --> 02:18:47,066 Yeah. 2574 02:18:47,566 --> 02:18:48,733 That's Daddy Madoc. 2575 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:50,266 Daddy Madoc. 2576 02:18:50,766 --> 02:18:51,433 And he's super 2577 02:18:51,433 --> 02:18:54,766 ruthless, strategy focused. 2578 02:18:55,266 --> 02:18:57,899 Yeah, those two look very similar. 2579 02:18:57,899 --> 02:18:57,933 Mm-hmm. 2580 02:18:58,433 --> 02:18:58,666 Mm-hmm. 2581 02:18:59,166 --> 02:19:02,366 (Keyboard Clacks) 2582 02:19:02,866 --> 02:19:03,733 So what do you think? 2583 02:19:04,399 --> 02:19:06,666 Well, how would you rate this connection 2584 02:19:07,166 --> 02:19:08,266 and your metric? 2585 02:19:08,766 --> 02:19:10,600 I would say that 2586 02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:11,866 we're actually very close. 2587 02:19:12,366 --> 02:19:14,866 We're actually really close to 2588 02:19:15,366 --> 02:19:19,533 a similar story here, like little, little 2589 02:19:20,033 --> 02:19:21,200 belonging. 2590 02:19:21,233 --> 02:19:23,100 There's a lot of fairies. 2591 02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:24,933 There's a 2592 02:19:25,466 --> 02:19:26,100 lot of green. 2593 02:19:26,866 --> 02:19:27,866 A lot of green. 2594 02:19:27,866 --> 02:19:28,500 A lot of green. 2595 02:19:28,533 --> 02:19:30,133 A lot of green connections here. 2596 02:19:30,633 --> 02:19:33,700 So I'm gonna say four cups 2597 02:19:33,733 --> 02:19:35,700 of fairy wine out of five. 2598 02:19:36,399 --> 02:19:37,933 Four cups of fairy wine 2599 02:19:37,933 --> 02:19:38,899 out of five, all right. 2600 02:19:39,399 --> 02:19:39,966 What do you think? 2601 02:19:40,533 --> 02:19:41,399 How do you think we did? 2602 02:19:41,899 --> 02:19:43,866 I think there's a lot of stuff missing 2603 02:19:43,899 --> 02:19:45,166 from this connection, but I think there's 2604 02:19:45,166 --> 02:19:47,200 a lot of things that are surprising and 2605 02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:48,500 how connected they are. 2606 02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:49,833 So I think with that, 2607 02:19:49,833 --> 02:19:50,966 I'll give myself a three 2608 02:19:51,466 --> 02:19:54,866 and a half heart containers out of five. 2609 02:19:54,933 --> 02:19:55,366 Love it. 2610 02:19:55,866 --> 02:19:57,100 That's what I'm saying for myself. 2611 02:19:57,233 --> 02:19:57,833 I love that. 2612 02:19:58,333 --> 02:19:59,500 I think you're good. 2613 02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,700 I think 3.5 heart containers, 2614 02:20:01,933 --> 02:20:03,200 but four cups of fairy wine. 2615 02:20:03,799 --> 02:20:04,700 Yeah, that's fair. 2616 02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:06,566 Oh my gosh, well, thank you so much for 2617 02:20:06,566 --> 02:20:07,866

sharing your story with me. 2618 02:20:08,333 --> 02:20:09,700 You gave me a lot of information about 2619 02:20:09,700 --> 02:20:10,700 Zelda that I didn't know. 2620 02:20:10,700 --> 02:20:12,500 I'm more of a Breath of the Wild girly. 2621 02:20:12,833 --> 02:20:14,066 Sure, yeah, no, I mean, I 2622 02:20:14,066 --> 02:20:14,766 love Breath of the Wild. 2623 02:20:14,799 --> 02:20:15,266 It's great, 2624 02:20:15,766 --> 02:20:17,966 but that is the lore of Ocarina. 2625 02:20:18,466 --> 02:20:21,466 And if you are a kid who, that was your 2626 02:20:21,466 --> 02:20:23,166 first Zelda you grew up with, 2627 02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:25,133 that's your version of Zelda. 2628 02:20:25,299 --> 02:20:26,466 Of course, there's always a 2629 02:20:26,466 --> 02:20:27,933 young link and an adult link. 2630 02:20:27,966 --> 02:20:28,799 There was only one time 2631 02:20:28,799 --> 02:20:30,066 we ever had that, one time. 2632 02:20:30,433 --> 02:20:31,700 One time we had a young 2633 02:20:31,700 --> 02:20:33,666 and adult in the same thing. 2634 02:20:33,766 --> 02:20:35,000 That was the one time. 2635 02:20:35,633 --> 02:20:36,433 It was a big deal that we 2636 02:20:36,433 --> 02:20:37,933 had it, but now let's move on. 2637 02:20:38,433 --> 02:20:39,000 do like that. 2638 02:20:39,166 --> 02:20:41,799 I like the idea of young and adult link 2639 02:20:41,799 --> 02:20:43,533 and that they do different things. 2640 02:20:43,633 --> 02:20:44,333 That's pretty cool. 2641 02:20:44,833 --> 02:20:45,100 Oh, 2642 02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:47,700 this is a little dumb neat thing. 2643 02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:51,433 In Ocarina, when you are a young link, 2644 02:20:51,899 --> 02:20:53,666 you have your little wooden shield, 2645 02:20:53,666 --> 02:20:54,633 because you're a young boy. 2646 02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:57,299 You get the larger Hylian shield, but you 2647 02:20:57,299 --> 02:20:58,766 can't hold it like a shield. 2648 02:20:58,766 --> 02:21:00,233 So you just kind of use it like a turtle 2649 02:21:00,233 --> 02:21:01,633 shield, like you duck. 2650 02:21:02,133 --> 02:21:05,366 And when you duck, when rocks hit on you, 2651 02:21:05,666 --> 02:21:06,700 they just deflect, but 2652 02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:08,000 you can't use a real shield. 2653 02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:10,966 And you can't hold the shield and the 2654 02:21:10,966 --> 02:21:12,533 sword at the same time, if I recall. 2655 02:21:13,033 --> 02:21:14,633 That's adorable, actually. 2656 02:21:15,100 --> 02:21:15,899 If there's adult link, 2657 02:21:15,899 --> 02:21:16,933 you absolutely can, right? 2658 02:21:17,433 --> 02:21:18,399 Here's the cool thing. 2659 02:21:18,899 --> 02:21:21,299 Majora's Mask, which happens very shortly 2660 02:21:21,299 --> 02:21:25,200 afterwards, because of all of young links 2661 02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,533 experiences as adult link learned the 2662 02:21:27,533 --> 02:21:29,766 skill of being able to hold the big 2663 02:21:29,766 --> 02:21:31,399 shield while holding a 2664 02:21:31,399 --> 02:21:32,466 sword at the same time. 2665 02:21:32,966 --> 02:21:33,533 That's cool. 2666 02:21:33,666 --> 02:21:34,366 That is cool. 2667 02:21:34,733 --> 02:21:34,966 Yeah. 2668 02:21:35,466 --> 02:21:36,766 He also does cool backflips. 2669 02:21:37,299 --> 02:21:38,600 Gotta love a backflip. 2670 02:21:39,166 --> 02:21:39,366 Yeah. 2671 02:21:39,866 --> 02:21:41,799 Jude does not do cool backflips. 2672 02:21:42,333 --> 02:21:43,366 Well, there you go. 2673 02:21:43,433 --> 02:21:44,700 My story's better, what can I say? 2674 02:21:44,700 --> 02:21:45,466 I guess so. 2675 02:21:45,966 --> 02:21:47,700 Will you wanna close us 2676 02:21:47,700 --> 02:21:48,866 out with a dramatic reading? 2677 02:21:49,399 --> 02:21:50,100 Sure. 2678 02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:54,833 (Upbeat Music) 2679 02:21:54,833 --> 02:21:56,700 Have I told you how hideous you look 2680 02:21:56,700 --> 02:21:59,633 tonight, Corden asks, leaning back in the 2681 02:21:59,633 --> 02:22:02,166 elaborately carved chair, the warmth of 2682 02:22:02,166 --> 02:22:03,566 his words turning the question to 2683 02:22:03,566 --> 02:22:04,833 something like a compliment. 2684 02:22:05,933 --> 02:22:08,366 No, I say, glad to be 2685 02:22:08,366 --> 02:22:09,766 annoyed back into the present. 2686 02:22:10,799 --> 02:22:11,399 Tell me. 2687 02:22:14,133 --> 02:22:15,000 I can't. 2688 02:22:18,033 --> 02:22:18,066 Cause 2689 02:22:19,799 --> 02:22:20,966 he can't lie. 2690 02:22:20,966 --> 02:22:22,433 (Laughing) 2691 02:22:23,966 --> 02:22:25,500 And there we go, I think that's our show. 2692 02:22:26,366 --> 02:22:28,533 Thank you guys so much for joining us. 2693 02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:30,233 Tell us what book or game that 2694 02:22:30,233 --> 02:22:31,366 you think we should try next. 2695 02:22:33,399 --> 02:22:33,766 Yeah, 2696 02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:35,966 we're open book. 2697 02:22:36,833 --> 02:22:39,733 And an unplayed game? 2698 02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:41,066 Yeah. 2699 02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:42,299 Yeah. 2700 02:22:42,299 --> 02:22:44,033 Hey. 2701 02:22:44,333 --> 02:22:46,100 Find us here on zero.media. 2702 02:22:46,733 --> 02:22:47,666 Check out our Patreon 2703 02:22:47,666 --> 02:22:48,733 if you feel like it. 2704 02:22:49,733 --> 02:22:51,233 Otherwise, we'll see you next time. 2705 02:22:52,133 --> 02:22:53,299 Here in chapters. 2706 02:22:53,399 --> 02:22:54,399 And checkpoints. 2707 02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:57,166 Bye, thank you. 2708 02:22:57,266 --> 02:22:58,966 Hey, don't forget to play more games. 2709 02:22:59,466 --> 02:23:00,566 And read more books. 2710 02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:05,799 (Upbeat Music) 2711 02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:33,666 Forget about this has changed I wanna 2712 02:23:34,033 --> 02:23:37,566 feel you close again Don't let go No, I 2713 02:23:37,566 --> 02:23:40,466 don't want this to end Wow 2714 02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:45,399 Remember the start of when You break it 2715 02:23:45,399 --> 02:23:48,033 both wide again Like blood 2716 02:23:48,033 --> 02:23:51,866 on a bed Would it matter then 2717 02:23:52,866 --> 02:23:56,399 When everything starts to fade Back like 2718 02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:58,899 it's yesterday Would it all 2719 02:23:58,899 --> 02:24:02,833 consent Would it matter then 2720 02:24:06,200 --> 02:24:09,000 Would it matter then 2721 02:24:14,033 --> 02:24:16,899 I did it all I pulled away to my 2722 02:24:16,899 --> 02:24:18,733 shoulders like it was fate 2723 02:24:19,500 --> 02:24:21,833 Don't tell me it was for nothing 2724 02:24:25,066 --> 02:24:27,299 You told me love wasn't true Cause it 2725 02:24:27,299 --> 02:24:29,033 didn't feel real to a cynic 2726 02:24:29,033 --> 02:24:31,433 like you But I'm pretty sure