Full Transcript for How DJ Moore Unlocks the Bills Offense | Joe Marino

00:03:22.250 this can also be a confidence boost. especially for the 74 00:03:22.310 --> 00:03:25.289 secondary and what it can look like. And, you know, 75 00:03:25.340 --> 00:03:27.280 it was interesting coming out of the bye or going 76 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.800 into the bye, Jim Leonard was talking about, we're just 77 00:03:29.939 --> 00:03:32.740 making it too easy on quarterbacks because we don't communicate well. 78 00:03:32.780 --> 00:03:36.139 We can't discuss coverages. And so they know what we're 79 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.439 in every time. And that's an easy spot, especially if 80 00:03:38.460 --> 00:03:41.780 you're playing a veteran quarterback. So I was wondering if 81 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.479 the shift was going to be, okay, let's just get 82 00:03:44.500 --> 00:03:45.580 the more press man. 83 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:49.120 Let's simplify it. Let the guys play faster or let's 84 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.969 just disguise things, simulated pressures. Rock and roll safeties. 85 00:03:53.289 --> 00:03:55.110 And if we blow one every now and then, it's 86 00:03:55.169 --> 00:03:57.349 got to be better than just dying the slow death 87 00:03:57.849 --> 00:04:00.900 over and over. So it was nice to see those 88 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.500 schematic changes. And as Jim Leonard learns this secondary that 89 00:04:05.539 --> 00:04:07.500 he didn't get a ton of time with in training 90 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:12.340 camp altogether, it's interesting those shifts he made. And so 91 00:04:13.219 --> 00:04:15.300 we'll get to the segment now as we clear the 92 00:04:15.379 --> 00:04:18.129 air brought to you by Azuna Fresh. Do you think 93 00:04:18.170 --> 00:04:20.990 the Bills are better off right now? With DeMar at 94 00:04:21.029 --> 00:04:22.449 safety over C.J. 95 00:04:22.490 --> 00:04:23.149 Gardner-Johnson? 96 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.660 Well, I think so. And ultimately what it comes down 97 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.339 to is I certainly can acknowledge that there's a higher 98 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:35.740 playmaking ceiling that exists with C.J. Gardner-Johnson. The floor is 99 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:40.470 astronomically higher with DeMar Hamlin. And you don't have to 100 00:04:40.529 --> 00:04:43.329 get into some of the behavioral stuff with C.J. Gardner-Johnson 101 00:04:43.370 --> 00:04:46.910 that can kind of rub you the wrong way. Missed tackles, 102 00:04:46.970 --> 00:04:51.639 blown coverage assignments, and you– really for the last game 103 00:04:51.660 --> 00:04:54.379 and a half, the Bills have not had C.J. Garner-Johnson 104 00:04:54.980 --> 00:04:57.360 in the lineup, but I think things calmed down. And 105 00:04:57.420 --> 00:04:59.680 so I know they brought him to Buffalo for a reason. 106 00:04:59.699 --> 00:05:04.139 There's likable elements to what he offers, but ultimately this 107 00:05:04.300 --> 00:05:08.819 defense seemed to play a lot more calm, less blown assignments. 108 00:05:09.319 -->

00:05:12.360 The floor was elevated. And for me, and it's not 109 00:05:12.420 --> 00:05:14.199 up to me, I'd roll with DeMar Hamill. 110 00:05:15.670 --> 00:05:16.620 I probably would as well. 111 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.269 And When Trey White was on my podcast last week, 112 00:05:20.290 --> 00:05:23.290 it was interesting when he was talking about how the 113 00:05:23.389 --> 00:05:26.810 corners aren't making plays, but it's almost like they don't 114 00:05:26.829 --> 00:05:30.050 know where their help is. And he credited the millions 115 00:05:30.089 --> 00:05:32.350 of reps that he got with Micah Hyde and Jordan 116 00:05:32.370 --> 00:05:35.129 Poyer to where they would know at times when he 117 00:05:35.149 --> 00:05:36.910 would want to take a chance. There'd be time where 118 00:05:37.230 --> 00:05:40.430 Trey's giving space, trying to bait the quarterback, and the 119 00:05:40.470 --> 00:05:43.730 safeties knew it. And just the corners played a lot 120 00:05:43.769 --> 00:05:44.509 better last week. 121 00:05:44.980 --> 00:05:45.920 Asterix, again, we know. 122 00:05:46.819 --> 00:05:49.800 The quarterback play for the Ravens wasn't what we potentially 123 00:05:49.819 --> 00:05:52.959 were going to face. But you had corners out there 124 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:55.259 making plays and playing a lot more confident, and it 125 00:05:55.350 --> 00:05:57.870 could be because they know what's going on in the 126 00:05:57.910 --> 00:06:01.149 back end. Cole Bishop had a better game. Well, it 127 00:06:01.209 --> 00:06:03.449 may be that he's played a lot more with DeMar. 128 00:06:03.470 --> 00:06:05.329 He has comfort in knowing where he's going to be 129 00:06:05.389 --> 00:06:09.699 and that part of what makes C.J. Gardner-Johnson a playmaker 130 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.379 in this league is the chances he takes. 131 00:06:11.420 --> 00:06:14.100 Well, I relate it to offensive line. 132 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.300 If I don't know what my guard's doing, man, I 133 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:19.139 have to be very conservative with my set. If we're 134 00:06:19.180 --> 00:06:20.779 trying to pass off a line game, and I don't 135 00:06:20.899 --> 00:06:23.819 know if you're fully there up front, it's going to 136 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.620 look a lot different than the reps I had next 137 00:06:26.670 --> 00:06:28.610 to Richie, who I played a ton of ball with, 138 00:06:28.620 --> 00:06:30.529 a veteran guy who I knew exactly where he was 139 00:06:30.550 --> 00:06:32.790 going to be every play. And so to me, I 140 00:06:33.529 --> 00:06:36.689 felt like the corners benefited from that as well. And 141 00:06:36.750 --> 00:06:40.370 so I probably would as well. And Jim Leonard in 142 00:06:40.389 --> 00:06:43.509 his press conference to start off the week did say, 143 00:06:43.990 --> 00:06:46.170 you know, there's some guys that are potentially going to 144 00:06:46.189 --> 00:06:48.350 make us have some tough conversations. 145 00:06:47.769 --> 00:06:48.829 Or tough decisions. 146 00:06:49.910 --> 00:06:51.970 And another guy that popped to me throughout the game, 147 00:06:52.009 --> 00:06:55.009 who you mentioned filling in at nickel was to Corey couch. 148 00:06:55.050 --> 00:06:57.560 And I'm not saying D Alford doesn't get back in 149 00:06:57.569 --> 00:07:00.519 the starting lineup, but could he be another guy that 150 00:07:00.540 --> 00:07:03.100 Jim Leonard's referring to for pushing for more playing time? 151 00:07:03.819 --> 00:07:06.560 Well, to Corey couch is almost like the Alec Anderson 152 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:09.160 of the defense where he's been on the practice squad 153 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.120 for a little bit of time now, and finally gets 154 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.920 an opportunity to play and You know, he played well, 155 00:07:13.939 --> 00:07:15.680 and he got a chance a couple weeks ago, but 156 00:07:15.699 --> 00:07:17.459 he hurt his hamstring, right? And we didn't get a 157 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.439 chance to see the full runway with Takori Couch. And 158 00:07:20.500 --> 00:07:23.569 so he steps into this lineup and, again, calms things 159 00:07:23.649 --> 00:07:26.209 down and drew some tough assignments, right? There were some 160 00:07:26.250 --> 00:07:29.329 matchups against Zay Flowers, who going into this game was 161 00:07:29.430 --> 00:07:33.290 averaging over 100 yards per game among the receivers with 162 00:07:33.329 --> 00:07:35.800 at least 50 targets. He was number one in yards 163 00:07:35.860 --> 00:07:38.540 per target. The Bills held him without a catch. I mean, 164 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.430 that's pretty exciting. And so... I think you're at a 165 00:07:42.490 --> 00:07:44.889 point where you need to consider all of those things. Now, 166 00:07:44.930 --> 00:07:47.269 I like D. Alford, and I think that he's a 167 00:07:47.310 --> 00:07:51.110 player that will benefit from the overall calming down of 168 00:07:51.129 --> 00:07:54.509 the defense. And obviously, they brought him here on a 169 00:07:54.529 --> 00:07:57.410 three-year deal to be that guy. But I think you 170 00:07:57.449 --> 00:08:01.959 have to be willing to accept any adjustments necessary to 171 00:08:02.379 --> 00:08:05.000 play better defense. And if that's to Corey Couch getting 172 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.680 more opportunity, so be it. And of course, he brings 173 00:08:07.699 --> 00:08:10.240 a lot on special teams as well. And the Bills 174 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:13.889 are Putting Maxwell Harrison out there and some reps as 175 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:15.930 a vice on the punt return team, sometimes he's got 176 00:08:15.949 --> 00:08:18.610 to be a gunner. Well, that role can maybe be 177 00:08:18.709 --> 00:08:21.550 elevated by it to Corey Couch as well. So it's 178 00:08:21.569 --> 00:08:23.540 good to see these guys get some opportunity, and I 179 00:08:23.569 --> 00:08:26.560 think the Bills need to be open to all

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Looking at the Bills' offense against the Ravens, 191 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.899 but also throughout this season, the Bills average almost 40 192 00:09:01.899 --> 00:09:04.779 more passing yards per game when DJ Moore is on 193 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.159 the field. The average target goes up and all that. 194 00:09:07.179 --> 00:09:11.049 That's exactly why you bring in a DJ Moore, when 195 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:14.350 he's out there schematically, because you're watching as much film, 196 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:17.409 especially on the bills as anyone, are you seeing schematic 197 00:09:17.509 --> 00:09:21.240 shifts or maybe a Josh Allen approach to the passing 198 00:09:21.269 --> 00:09:23.320 game that switches when DJ Moore's on the field? 199 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.799 Well, yeah. One thing that really popped in studying the 200 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:31.220 film from the Ravens game was seeing the gravity that 201 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.600 he has multiple plays where the Ravens were in zone 202 00:09:34.620 --> 00:09:36.980 coverage and you can just see the attention that the 203 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:40.000 squeezing towards DJ Moore and what that opens up for 204 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.059 the rest of the players, in particular, Kilo Shakir and 205 00:09:43.179 --> 00:09:45.539 Dalton Kincaid, some of those plays they made over the 206 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.419 middle of the field were courtesy of that gravity and 207 00:09:48.539 --> 00:09:50.690 that wrap in that Josh hit over the middle of 208 00:09:50.730 --> 00:09:52.669 the rocket to Kincaid early in the game like that. 209 00:09:52.750 --> 00:09:55.009 You watch the play three guys close on DJ Moore 210 00:09:55.529 --> 00:09:58.090 and you got a wide open Kincaid over the middle 211 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:00.529 of the field and so you can feel the gravity 212 00:10:00.570 --> 00:10:02.690 but also I think Josh has a lot of confidence 213 00:10:02.750 --> 00:10:05.250 in throwing him the ball right I mean taking some 214 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.820 chances one on one down the field and DJ Moore 215 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.379 is the type of guy that has the physicality at 216 00:10:10.419 --> 00:10:12.740 the catch point to win those leverage battles but also 217 00:10:12.779 --> 00:10:15.580 the concentration the ball skills he's making these types of 218 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.620 plays his whole career that's what I loved about watching 219 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:19.500 him at Maryland right we all remember the big catch 220 00:10:19.870 --> 00:10:22.190 he had over Green Bay for Chicago last year. And that, 221 00:10:22.769 --> 00:10:24.450 you know, that play he made over Marlon Humphrey was 222 00:10:24.509 --> 00:10:26.730 pretty special. That'd make me pretty willing to throw the 223 00:10:26.769 --> 00:10:30.320 ball up to that guy as well. So the verticality increased, right? 224 00:10:30.379 --> 00:10:33.259 Josh had six throws, 20 yards or more down the field. 225 00:10:33.299 --> 00:10:35.080 He completed three of them and had a good chance 226 00:10:35.100 --> 00:10:37.539 to complete a couple more, right? If Palmer doesn't get 227 00:10:37.580 --> 00:10:39.559 hurt on the one and then he misses Keon Coleman, 228 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.919 but you can just see how it unlocks things vertically 229 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:45.419 because of, you know, who DJ Moore is as a, 230 00:10:45.710 --> 00:10:48.669 as a vertical player himself, but what it unlocks for 231 00:10:48.700 --> 00:10:52.059 other players as well. So this offense is clearly different 232 00:10:52.460 --> 00:10:55.399 when DJ Moore is available. I certainly hope he can 233 00:10:55.419 --> 00:10:57.860 stay healthy. It feels like every time that guy gets hit, 234 00:10:57.940 --> 00:11:01.159 it's like, you know, just really physical and guys are 235 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:04.799 getting after him. So stay healthy, dude, because, you know, 236 00:11:05.419 --> 00:11:08.279 the production for this offense can be really special. It is, right? 237 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.259 This is like one of the best offenses to start 238 00:11:11.850 --> 00:11:14.179 a season in NFL history. Certainly the most points, the 239 00:11:14.230 --> 00:11:17.889 most explosive plays And they've only had a little bit 240 00:11:17.909 --> 00:11:19.909 of DJ Moore. So if that guy can stay healthy, 241 00:11:19.970 --> 00:11:23.789 you know, obviously this, this offense can be really, really productive. Yeah. 242 00:11:23.830 --> 00:11:26.269 DJ Moore is a guy that hasn't missed much time 243 00:11:26.309 --> 00:11:30.669 at all in his career. And look, I'll admit, I'm 244 00:11:30.710 --> 00:11:32.929 not watching every second of when he was at the 245 00:11:32.970 --> 00:11:35.850 Panthers and when he was at the bears. I know 246 00:11:35.870 --> 00:11:38.990 he plays a physical brand of ball, but I think 247 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:42.110 back to something Peyton Manning said about Marvin Harrison and 248

00:11:42.149 --> 00:11:44.450 Stokely and those guys back in the day and Reggie 249 00:11:44.490 --> 00:11:47.629 Wayne and, people would give them crap about sliding at 250 00:11:47.649 --> 00:11:49.509 the end of the plays. He's like, well, they're like, well, 251 00:11:49.549 --> 00:11:51.169 Peyton told me to do it because they need me 252 00:11:51.190 --> 00:11:53.409 to get through the postseason. I almost want him to 253 00:11:53.470 --> 00:11:59.080 take like a old school 2009 Indianapolis receivers approach to 254 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:02.879 this where, hey, maybe, you know, until it's crunch time, 255 00:12:02.899 --> 00:12:05.210 until we absolutely need it, you're almost. 256 00:12:05.070 --> 00:12:07.470 Like a quarterback out there. Get down, get out of bounds. 257 00:12:07.529 --> 00:12:09.389 Yes, there's going to be times where, you know, you're 258 00:12:09.409 --> 00:12:12.090 going to take some contact, but you know, dating back 259 00:12:12.129 --> 00:12:14.549 to his first reps in the preseason against the Panthers. 260 00:12:14.590 --> 00:12:17.480 He's out there looking for contact, which you love to 261 00:12:17.509 --> 00:12:19.419 see how to receiver is an alignment. I love to 262 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.279 see my receivers out there playing like that, but, but 263 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.740 I'm to the point now, like put yourself in a 264 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:25.740 bubble when you can. 265 00:12:25.820 --> 00:12:27.659 And so it's been fun to see this year. 266 00:12:28.070 --> 00:12:31.190 You have to think that's a big reason why Josh 267 00:12:31.250 --> 00:12:34.210 and DJ have connected so well. And there's been such 268 00:12:34.350 --> 00:12:37.450 obvious chemistry. They play so similarly. I'm sure that they 269 00:12:37.490 --> 00:12:40.009 love being on the field together and, You can tell 270 00:12:40.169 --> 00:12:42.029 when Josh has DJ out there, he wants to get 271 00:12:42.070 --> 00:12:43.730 in the ball, right? That's his guy. And I think 272 00:12:44.090 --> 00:12:46.289 they can really appreciate how each other plays the game. 273 00:12:46.629 --> 00:12:49.320 Yeah, DJ Moore on the mic'd up at one point 274 00:12:49.340 --> 00:12:50.740 of the game was on the sideline. He's like, I'm 275 00:12:50.769 --> 00:12:52.240 out here playing backyard. 276 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:52.740 Ball with my boy. 277 00:12:52.789 --> 00:12:52.960 Right. 278 00:12:53.379 --> 00:12:56.059 You know, they're having fun on the sideline like that 279 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:57.860 as well. It's cool to see. 280 00:12:59.620 --> 00:13:02.320 At the time of the recording of this podcast, nothing 281 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.500 has come out on it yet. Do you think Roquan 282 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:08.950 Smith should be punished, whether that's suspension, fines for The 283 00:13:08.990 --> 00:13:12.389 QB sneak and the shot he obviously took on Josh Allen, 284 00:13:12.429 --> 00:13:13.250 twisting his head around. 285 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.200 Oh, absolutely, especially as this is now the second time 286 00:13:17.259 --> 00:13:21.059 he's done that to a quarterback, Tyler Shuck, for the 287 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.259 Saints a few weeks ago this happened. And I am 288 00:13:24.620 --> 00:13:27.429 not defending C.J. Garner-Johnson by any means. I think it 289 00:13:27.470 --> 00:13:30.450 was deplorable that he spit on somebody. But can we 290 00:13:31.230 --> 00:13:35.230 compare spitting on somebody or spitting at somebody to yanking 291 00:13:35.830 --> 00:13:39.470 a face mask and twisting someone's head around? Yeah, that's garbage. 292 00:13:39.850 --> 00:13:45.250 And I think at a minimum, a healthy fine is justified. And, 293 00:13:45.970 --> 00:13:47.970 you know, if you're going to suspend CJ for spitting 294 00:13:48.009 --> 00:13:50.320 at somebody, which he should have been suspended, I think 295 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:51.860 that's a more egregious act. 296 00:13:52.779 --> 00:13:56.860 Yeah, very disrespectful to get spit on, but I'd rather 297 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.440 get spit on than someone take a low shot on 298 00:13:59.460 --> 00:14:02.279 me in a game, you know, after the play, take 299 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.039 a shot where, you know, I might get concussed or something. 300 00:14:05.539 --> 00:14:07.259 Give me the spit in those situations. I might not 301 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:08.299 say it at the time though. 302 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.100 That's about as disrespectful as you can. 303 00:14:10.019 --> 00:14:13.090 Get man to man. Yeah. But, but I'd rather have 304 00:14:13.129 --> 00:14:15.490 that than have my head twisted. All right. Looking ahead 305 00:14:15.509 --> 00:14:17.129 at the Vikings, they're six and one. 306 00:14:17.149 --> 00:14:20.870 They get beat by the lions last week, but off 307 00:14:20.929 --> 00:14:23.169 to an incredible start, especially on the defense side of 308 00:14:23.190 --> 00:14:26.360 the football. How concerned are you that this Bill's offense 309 00:14:26.429 --> 00:14:29.539 finally won't be able to, you know, rack up those points, 310 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.679 drive after drive against this Vikings defense, like we've seen 311 00:14:32.700 --> 00:14:33.159 all season. 312 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.840 Well, you know, some, There's just those games sometimes with 313 00:14:36.860 --> 00:14:39.759 the Flores defense where they are pretty leaky and other 314 00:14:39.820 --> 00:14:41.470 teams are able to put up a bunch of points. 315 00:14:41.490 --> 00:14:43.870 Think about Green Bay earlier in the year. What gives 316 00:14:43.889 --> 00:14:45.289 me a lot of hope is what Detroit did to 317 00:14:45.330 --> 00:14:47.450 them last week. They ran the ball and forced a 318 00:14:47.490 --> 00:14:51.610 million missed tackles. Jameer Gibbs went off. Sione Bakke went off. 319 00:14:51.889 --> 00:14:55.129 I'm sure the Bills will let James Cook against his 320

00:14:55.169 --> 00:14:58.019 brother's former team in Minnesota. I think that'll be a 321 00:14:58.059 --> 00:14:59.679 huge part of what they need to do is run 322 00:14:59.700 --> 00:15:03.950 the ball with James Cook, but You know, obviously, if 323 00:15:03.990 --> 00:15:05.850 anything in football, there's give and take. And I think 324 00:15:05.870 --> 00:15:08.100 you need to find ways to make Minnesota pay for 325 00:15:08.139 --> 00:15:11.259 their choices of being so blitz aggressive, spread them out, 326 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.159 you know, obviously get the ball out of Josh's hands. And, 327 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:16.919 you know, I like where this offensive line's headed. I 328 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:19.250 think their protection schemes have been pretty sound this year. 329 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.029 I think they've played well together. Josh hasn't faced a 330 00:15:22.049 --> 00:15:24.230 lot of quick pressure. Well, he's faced pressure, but some 331 00:15:24.250 --> 00:15:25.809 of that's just kind of the way he plays the game. 332 00:15:25.830 --> 00:15:28.529 There hasn't been much in the way of quick pressure. 333 00:15:28.590 --> 00:15:30.929 And so run the ball, get the ball out of 334 00:15:30.970 --> 00:15:35.500 Josh's hands. and build on your defensive performance, and I 335 00:15:35.539 --> 00:15:36.799 think the Bills will have a chance to go out 336 00:15:36.850 --> 00:15:39.950 there and maybe hand the Vikings a second consecutive loss 337 00:15:39.990 --> 00:15:41.889 after they won like 11 in a row, dating back 338 00:15:41.909 --> 00:15:42.450 to last season. 339 00:15:42.889 --> 00:15:47.590 Yeah, and Josh has been excellent against the Blitz for 340 00:15:47.610 --> 00:15:49.570 a majority of his career, ever since he got the 341 00:15:49.610 --> 00:15:53.570 receivers in place, which I think back to early Josh 342 00:15:53.649 --> 00:15:57.480 Allen games where teams started going press man, cover zero, 343 00:15:57.509 --> 00:16:00.740 because we didn't have Diggs or whoever on the outside, 344 00:16:01.500 --> 00:16:04.029 and you know, ever since kind of that period, Josh 345 00:16:04.049 --> 00:16:07.309 has been deadly against the blitz, but against this Bill's 346 00:16:07.409 --> 00:16:10.009 offense right now with the balance they have in the 347 00:16:10.049 --> 00:16:13.129 variety of weapons, I think, I think that's how you 348 00:16:13.149 --> 00:16:15.860 almost have to approach, you know, a game against the 349 00:16:15.899 --> 00:16:18.980 bills is take some chances, bring some blitzes, because if 350 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.379 you just sit back there, you know, over the course 351 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.480 of the game, they're likely going to put up 30 352 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.350 points again. And so, you know, The Brian Flores blitz 353 00:16:27.409 --> 00:16:31.350 numbers over 80%. They're not coming down this week. I've 354 00:16:31.389 --> 00:16:35.440 seen some of their

packages that have been pretty good. 355 00:16:35.460 --> 00:16:38.120 Some of their twists up front, some of their simulated pressures, 356 00:16:38.179 --> 00:16:39.820 getting guys on the running backs. 357 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:43.159 It's good stuff from Brian Flores. It'll be interesting to see. 358 00:16:43.179 --> 00:16:46.710 I would imagine after this season, especially if their defensive 359 00:16:46.730 --> 00:16:50.049 success continues, that he would get another shot at being 360 00:16:50.090 --> 00:16:50.990 a head coach in this league. 361 00:16:51.029 --> 00:16:52.870 Obviously, it didn't go well down in Miami and. 362 00:16:53.509 --> 00:16:57.669 The report and all that that came out about Brian Flores, 363 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:02.240 obviously an embarrassment for the league. But I'd imagine he's 364 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.559 probably shaping up to be a head coach after this season. 365 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:09.740 Kevin O'Connell has a decision to make this week. You 366 00:17:09.779 --> 00:17:12.349 got a hamstring strain from Kyler Murray. 367 00:17:12.390 --> 00:17:15.710 You got Dan Orlovsky on NFL Live saying, hey, maybe 368 00:17:15.750 --> 00:17:18.769 it's time for Carson Wentz to come in. Who would 369 00:17:18.809 --> 00:17:22.170 you rather see this week? be a quarterback for the Vikings, 370 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:23.529 Kyler Murray or Carson Wentz? 371 00:17:24.490 --> 00:17:27.630 Kyler Murray. Even if he's healthy, I'd rather face Kyler Murray. 372 00:17:27.670 --> 00:17:30.750 And really what it comes down to is I think 373 00:17:30.869 --> 00:17:33.430 Carson Wentz is more likely to simply run the offense. 374 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:36.359 And I know that Carson Wentz is more than capable 375 00:17:36.380 --> 00:17:39.059 of a stinker, right? We've seen Carson Wentz through the years. 376 00:17:39.299 --> 00:17:41.779 He's also capable of having a really dynamic game, especially 377 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.480 if he'll just run the plays, right? And the Bills, 378 00:17:44.740 --> 00:17:47.920 I'm really encouraged by the direction of the defense coming 379 00:17:47.940 --> 00:17:49.160 out of the bye. They're going to need more of 380 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.000 that because if they're going to go back to what 381 00:17:52.019 --> 00:17:54.670 they were with passive zone coverages and not a lot 382 00:17:54.710 --> 00:17:57.109 of press and not a lot of blitzing, you know, 383 00:17:57.130 --> 00:17:59.269 a veteran quarterback like Carson Wentz is going to play 384 00:17:59.329 --> 00:18:02.589 on schedule. Just like, just like all the quarterbacks previously, 385 00:18:02.609 --> 00:18:05.750 Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford, right. That's that, that'll be 386 00:18:05.809 --> 00:18:07.380 what it's going to be. And, you know, Carson Wentz 387 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:09.920 can move a little bit as well. So I'll take 388 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:14.019 chances with Kyler Murray, who has his own

limitations, right. 389 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:15.759 He obviously has a big arm and he can run, 390 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.210 but you know, he, field vision is not necessarily something 391 00:18:19.250 --> 00:18:21.809 that comes well to him. He's, you know, he's vertically 392 00:18:21.849 --> 00:18:25.490 challenged and I I'll take my chances, chances with the 393 00:18:25.529 --> 00:18:29.180 variance there. So we'll, we'll see where it goes. You know, if, 394 00:18:29.470 --> 00:18:31.549 if his hamstring is not good enough to go, then 395 00:18:31.609 --> 00:18:35.630 that probably makes the decision for Kevin O'Connell, but I'm 396 00:18:35.650 --> 00:18:38.190 certainly hoping to, to see Kyler Murray on Monday night. 397 00:18:38.589 --> 00:18:38.730 Yeah. 398 00:18:38.769 --> 00:18:41.329 You don't see a lot of quarterback switches with six 399 00:18:41.390 --> 00:18:44.559 and one teams, but they're in a fairly unique situation 400 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:45.390 up there in Minnesota. 401 00:18:46.390 --> 00:18:47.509 Yeah, different for sure. 402 00:18:47.529 --> 00:18:49.970 Let's take a quick break to talk about our friends 403 00:18:50.109 --> 00:18:51.130 over at Dano's. 404 00:18:51.470 --> 00:18:52.650 We've got a new deal for you. 405 00:18:52.690 --> 00:18:54.849 You can now save 20% off any product when you 406 00:18:54.869 --> 00:18:58.190 use the promo code WOOD20 at checkout. 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He wants 424 00:19:39.059 --> 00:19:40.839 them to toe that line and be somewhere in the 425 00:19:40.859 --> 00:19:43.660 middle of the pack. You don't often hear coaches talk 426 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:46.170 like that. Oftentimes they'll say, no, we have to eliminate 427 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.289 the penalties. And they might say, yeah, a couple might 428 00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:48.970 happen a game. 429 00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:50.630 Got to eliminate. the pre-snaps. 430 00:19:50.670 --> 00:19:53.890 He's saying, I want my team to play aggressive enough 431 00:19:53.970 --> 00:19:57.390 that sometimes that happens. What were your thoughts on him 432 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.059 talking about middle of the pack with penalties? 433 00:20:00.990 --> 00:20:03.259 Sort of understood where he was going with it. And 434 00:20:03.299 --> 00:20:05.539 I could appreciate that the caveat was, look, I don't 435 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.319 have any time for pre-snap penalties, right? That's just focused stuff, 436 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:12.150 especially– Procedural issues at home, that's not my favorite thing 437 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:13.839 to see from the Bills, and there's been false starts. 438 00:20:13.859 --> 00:20:16.799 There's been an illegal shift or two at home, which 439 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.220 you don't like, or delay a game. But competitive penalties 440 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.759 between the whistles, you're trying to make a play. Sometimes 441 00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:26.700 you can live with some of that. It's always frustrating 442 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:28.920 in the moment. It's never easy in the moment to say, oh, well, 443 00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:31.480 there it is. That's what Joe Brady's talking about. I 444 00:20:31.500 --> 00:20:33.779 guess we'll live with this defensive passenger fear. It's a 445 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:37.440 game of 40-yard play. But I can understand what he's 446 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.470 saying is that as long as the technique is good 447 00:20:40.509 --> 00:20:43.119 and you're just trying to be competitive, sometimes you can 448 00:20:43.150 --> 00:20:45.779 deal with that. And so the phrasing of, hey, we 449 00:20:45.819 --> 00:20:48.140 don't want to be the least penalized team in the 450 00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:51.059 NFL can certainly make you perk up. But I think 451 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.259 the intent behind what he's saying makes a lot of sense. 452 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.420 As long as there's that continued caveat of pre-snap penalties, 453 00:20:56.819 --> 00:20:57.819 nobody has any time for that. 454 00:20:58.289 --> 00:21:01.130 Yeah, I thought my two biggest takeaways for the press 455 00:21:01.150 --> 00:21:04.200 conference were that And then when he was explaining the 456 00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:06.420 end of half situation, which we won't necessarily get into 457 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.109 because you have to take him for his word. 458 00:21:08.269 --> 00:21:08.529 Yes. 459 00:21:08.630 --> 00:21:10.630 In the moment, I thought it was panic. If that 460 00:21:10.650 --> 00:21:13.210 was truly the strategy, it's brilliant. 461

00:21:13.269 --> 00:21:13.829 It's brilliant. 462 00:21:13.869 --> 00:21:14.089 Yeah. 463 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:14.430 Yes. 464 00:21:14.990 --> 00:21:17.710 If that was truly the strategy, that is pure brilliance. 465 00:21:17.750 --> 00:21:20.089 If you know the defense that they're going to get to, 466 00:21:20.630 --> 00:21:24.309 if there's 20 seconds left as opposed to 40, that's brilliant. 467 00:21:24.859 --> 00:21:27.859 I'll be honest in the booth on air. I'm saying, 468 00:21:28.259 --> 00:21:29.220 what are we doing right now? 469 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.509 We are wasting valuable time to where, We might have 470 00:21:32.549 --> 00:21:35.910 to mayday kick one from 50-something, which could be a 471 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:37.509 disaster in itself. 472 00:21:38.369 --> 00:21:41.109 Yeah, and I looked at, was it Osiris Torrance on 473 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:43.569 that play winds up pulling from the right side? Like, 474 00:21:43.609 --> 00:21:45.390 it led me to believe that that was their intent, 475 00:21:45.849 --> 00:21:48.009 was to just kind of leverage a sideline and get 476 00:21:48.029 --> 00:21:51.609 the 14 yards. But I'm sitting there thinking, like, you 477 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:54.470 can't really throw incomplete here because you're not going to 478 00:21:54.509 --> 00:21:57.410 kick a, I mean, pushing 70-yard field goal. They needed 479 00:21:57.410 --> 00:22:00.670 14 yards to get a 51-yard field goal. But if 480 00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:02.609 they had a beat on what they were going to 481 00:22:02.650 --> 00:22:05.750 be in defensively. And that was your, your opportunity to 482 00:22:06.509 --> 00:22:08.829 eat away at some of that distance. You know, it 483 00:22:09.049 --> 00:22:10.730 sounded like based on what he said on Monday, that 484 00:22:10.750 --> 00:22:13.789 it was a really well articulated thought out plan. And 485 00:22:13.829 --> 00:22:16.710 it sounded genius, but you know, without that information, you're 486 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:19.819 me and you are in the same position or like, well, geez, 487 00:22:19.859 --> 00:22:22.660 that was very risky. It worked out, but the process 488 00:22:22.700 --> 00:22:24.880 wasn't very good, but it sounds like there was some, 489 00:22:25.059 --> 00:22:27.019 some deeper thinking going on there by Joe Brady. 490 00:22:27.869 --> 00:22:28.329 I agree. 491 00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:30.849 It kind of reminded me of, and like I said, 492 00:22:30.890 --> 00:22:33.150 I'll take it for his word. And Joe Brady is 493 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:35.230 a brilliant offensive mind. It kind of reminded me of 494 00:22:35.809 --> 00:22:38.559 at times I would mess up a mic point and 495 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:39.779 I knew I messed it up and I'm going to 496 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:42.160 have to defend myself and film the next day. And 497 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:44.019 then I start watching film and I'm like, oh yeah, 498 00:22:44.059 --> 00:22:47.109 that safety was kind of

cheating that way. And I 499 00:22:47.130 --> 00:22:49.730 can find a look. from film study earlier in the 500 00:22:49.769 --> 00:22:52.410 week where I can justify my decision again. And so 501 00:22:52.470 --> 00:22:54.470 it kind of reminded me of one of those kind 502 00:22:54.509 --> 00:22:57.470 of revisionist history, like go back, look, okay, now I 503 00:22:57.490 --> 00:23:02.049 can justify my decision in this situation. When you, let 504 00:23:02.069 --> 00:23:04.910 me preface this, go back during the bye week, Joe 505 00:23:04.990 --> 00:23:08.359 did a podcast on potential trade targets. Some of those 506 00:23:08.450 --> 00:23:12.720 since then have either been moved or, you know, different situation. Now, 507 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:16.119 when you look around, we're seven days away from the 508 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.339 trade deadline as we record this. Who would be maybe 509 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.660 a few of your top trade targets. 510 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:21.839 For the Bills? 511 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.660 Yeah, I think a lot about safety. And while I 512 00:23:25.700 --> 00:23:28.420 think DeMar Hamlin can elevate the floor, I certainly think 513 00:23:28.869 --> 00:23:31.789 you'd like to have a high-impact player. And certainly, you 514 00:23:31.809 --> 00:23:33.569 look at some of these teams, there should be guys available. 515 00:23:33.589 --> 00:23:37.130 Imani Hooker, I was in on him before the three-interception 516 00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:40.230 game against the Cincinnati Bengals. So I've got the receipts there, 517 00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:41.970 but that's definitely a player that I have a ton 518 00:23:41.990 --> 00:23:44.410 of interest in. Cam Bynum, a safety for the Colts. 519 00:23:44.970 --> 00:23:47.730 Buda Baker with the Arizona Cardinals. Of course, Jeff Rogers 520 00:23:47.750 --> 00:23:49.369 has a lot of familiarity with him. So I think 521 00:23:49.410 --> 00:23:52.079 about those safeties. I'm not against the idea of an 522 00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:55.299 edge rusher. I think the Bills are getting okay production 523 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:58.420 from Bradley Chubb, but I think that's a spot that 524 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:01.740 can be elevated. TJ Parker's given them some good flashes, 525 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:03.660 but still a rookie that I don't fully want to 526 00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:06.660 count on. So with how Deion Walker and Greg Russo 527 00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:08.680 are playing, I don't think it would hurt to add 528 00:24:09.339 --> 00:24:12.500 somebody at outside backer. And I'm really not against the 529 00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:16.559 idea of a receiver. We've talked about how meaningful DJ 530 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:20.940 Moore is. And not that anybody's just going to step 531 00:24:20.980 --> 00:24:22.440 in and be the one for one. I'd like to 532 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.900 have as much firepower as possible. And we know that 533 00:24:25.940 --> 00:24:28.019 receivers get traded, right? That's kind of the other thing 534 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.880 is they're just always traded. And so I don't think 535 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:33.180 it would be a bad idea to participate there, especially 536 00:24:33.220 --> 00:24:35.599 when you're looking, you know, beyond this season where you 537 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:37.380 have an opportunity to maybe get out of that Josh 538 00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:40.970 Palmer deal and, you know, stock stocking up on firepower to, 539 00:24:41.089 --> 00:24:44.440 to be the most dynamic offense possible is, not something 540 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.720 I'm going to find myself disagreeing with. So I think 541 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.160 about that. Like I'm interested in a Josh downs. I'm 542 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.069 interested in a Brian Thomas jr. Somebody that can really 543 00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:56.490 add some, some dynamic skills, some, some speed, some playmaking 544 00:24:56.509 --> 00:24:57.990 to this offense. Yeah. 545 00:24:58.089 --> 00:24:58.789 I'm with you there. 546 00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:03.269 And receivers probably as easy as any position on the 547 00:25:03.289 --> 00:25:06.819 field to plug and play maybe, maybe outside linebacker pass 548 00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:09.799 rush as well, where they can kind of do their thing. 549 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.960 And if, They don't necessarily know all the ins and 550 00:25:13.019 --> 00:25:15.960 outs of a play, run a slant, rush the passer, 551 00:25:16.500 --> 00:25:19.410 kind of more of a plug and play position than saying, Hey, 552 00:25:19.430 --> 00:25:21.509 we're going to put you in that guard, you know, 553 00:25:21.930 --> 00:25:23.630 learn how to play with these guys and know every 554 00:25:23.650 --> 00:25:26.349 single play in the playbook. As you look around the 555 00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:30.500 AFC right now, who concerns you the most getting in 556 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.640 the way of the bills, either a getting the one 557 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.960 seed or B getting to the super bowl. 558 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.259 The team that has me most concerned about the bills 559 00:25:38.299 --> 00:25:40.920 getting to the super bowl is the bills, right? I think, 560 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.430 you know what I mean? We've talked about Baltimore and 561 00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:45.809 Kansas city for years. The bills are the biggest enemy 562 00:25:45.849 --> 00:25:48.410 to the bills. And so if they can clean up 563 00:25:48.430 --> 00:25:50.869 some things and, and, you know, play, play some more 564 00:25:50.910 --> 00:25:53.809 normal games potentially, right? Just everything doesn't have to be 565 00:25:53.869 --> 00:25:55.569 high event all the time, which I think is a 566 00:25:55.609 --> 00:25:57.930 little bit of a consequence when, you know, the two 567 00:25:57.970 --> 00:26:00.769 most influential people on your operation are Joe Brady and 568 00:26:00.789 -->

00:26:03.099 Josh Allen, right? Those are, those are aggressive dudes. You're 569 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:05.950 going to get some chaos with that. But in terms 570 00:26:05.990 --> 00:26:09.890 of the one seed, it's Jacksonville. And I think they 571 00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:12.170 have a good operation on both sides of the ball, 572 00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:15.829 but their schedule, right? In terms of strength of schedule 573 00:26:15.849 --> 00:26:17.539 the rest of the way, it's the easiest schedule in 574 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.450 the league. And I think they're going to stack wins. 575 00:26:20.470 --> 00:26:22.480 I don't think there's a lot of competition for them 576 00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:25.160 in that division. And so the Bills are ahead of 577 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.200 them right now as the only team in the AFC 578 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:30.039 that doesn't have two losses. But I think Jacksonville is 579 00:26:30.059 --> 00:26:32.559 going to stack a bunch of wins and make that 580 00:26:32.579 --> 00:26:33.799 pretty interesting down the stretch. 581 00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:34.769 I agree. 582 00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:37.750 And I almost feel this year, I don't want to 583 00:26:37.769 --> 00:26:39.930 say more than ever, but maybe I've just grown to 584 00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:42.730 appreciate the one seed more when you only have to 585 00:26:42.750 --> 00:26:44.710 win two games to get the Super Bowl, not three. 586 00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:48.990 The injuries that we faced in the wildcard round constantly, 587 00:26:49.029 --> 00:26:51.049 especially on the defense side of the football, getting to 588 00:26:51.089 --> 00:26:54.150 bring teams into this new Highmark Stadium, get them in 589 00:26:54.190 --> 00:26:57.250 the elements, even though the fans all won't be in 590 00:26:57.289 --> 00:27:01.069 the elements, the field's exposed and all that. For some 591 00:27:01.109 --> 00:27:04.390 reason this year, I almost have different thoughts around a 592 00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:07.509 sprint for the one seed and not, hey, let's peak 593 00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:09.470 at the right time at the end of the season, 594 00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:10.859 get hot, and get on a run. 595 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.880 And that's just kind of my thoughts on that. All right, 596 00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:16.539 last one for me. What's the next game we're going 597 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:17.539 to see Joe Marino at? 598 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:18.420 Ooh. 599 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:23.779 Man, it's crazy. I'd been to three already this year. 600 00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:26.539 I'd only anticipated to go to one, so it was 601 00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:29.869 cool to get to a couple more. Maybe that Miami 602 00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:31.990 game in a couple weeks, there's something going on that 603 00:27:32.009 --> 00:27:32.769 I might want to be a part of. 604 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.099 Okay, well, let me know. 605 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.019 We'd love to catch up for that. We'll go get 606 00:27:36.059 --> 00:27:40.019 some wings or get a bite somewhere. But I appreciate 607 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.490 your time as always. For those out there that tune 608 00:27:42.509 --> 00:27:46.029 into this podcast and don't tune into Joe's, go check 609 00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:49.509 out the Locked on Bills podcast. Awesome stuff coming each week. 610 00:27:49.789 --> 00:27:53.279 I've really enjoyed the Bills squad stuff. Sometimes I'm jealous 611 00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:55.140 I'm not a part of that crew. But you don't 612 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.859 need– it's like– It's like the desk when they got 613 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:00.240 Jason Kelsey and people say, Eric, could you do that? 614 00:28:00.299 --> 00:28:01.940 I'm like, no, you're not going to have two alignment. 615 00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.680 You need some different perspectives, but what is it about 616 00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:08.000 these offensive linemen? I'm out all the former bills players. 617 00:28:08.059 --> 00:28:11.619 You Jerry, John Feeney, you he's offensive lineman. Mitch Morse 618 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:13.400 is in the space. You guys got stuff to say, 619 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.690 retired and you want to talk, right? Yeah. 620 00:28:16.009 --> 00:28:17.029 Yeah. Yeah. 621 00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:18.890 Someone was asking me last weekend, what's up with all 622 00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:22.490 these centers that get into podcasting and whatnot. I'm like, well, 623 00:28:23.099 --> 00:28:26.049 Generally each week, the center's the one talking to the 624 00:28:26.089 --> 00:28:28.029 media in the locker room. You learn to speak in 625 00:28:28.049 --> 00:28:29.910 front of a mic. You have fun with the media 626 00:28:29.950 --> 00:28:33.230 guys and all that. So that might have something to 627 00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:36.130 do with it, but who knows? But as always, brother, 628 00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:39.049 I appreciate your time. Keep up the good work. Always 629 00:28:39.109 --> 00:28:40.289 love following all your stuff. 630 00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:42.190 Appreciate you, Ewood. Thanks for having me on. 631 00:28:42.450 --> 00:28:42.769 Yes, sir.