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WEBVTT 00:00:00.477 --> 00:00:06.337 Hey, JJ. What up? Hey, uh, do you ever felt like your whole world turned upside 00:00:06.337 --> 00:00:08.257 down? If we want to get into this, yeah. 00:00:08.557 --> 00:00:11.397 All right, well, that's what happened to a group of kids in the entire town 00:00:11.397 --> 00:00:16.037 of Hawkins, Indiana, in the series Stranger Things. Yeah, okay. 00:00:16.457 --> 00:00:21.317 The Demogorgon, the Mind Flayer, and Vecna. Mm. Yeah, those are all bad things 00:00:21.317 --> 00:00:23.677 that happen to people. Triple-decker sandwich of... angry. 00:00:23.977 --> 00:00:27.457 Yeah, and that's what we're going to talk about today on Can We Geek About? 00:00:29.097 --> 00:00:34.777 So stranger things have been said stranger things have been said stranger things 00:00:34.777 --> 00:00:43.577 have happened mm-hmm uh the stranger the things the better mm-hmm the thing great film but stranger, 00:00:44.377 --> 00:00:48.577 stranger than that thing yeah well that was a great film yeah it didn't need 00:00:48.577 --> 00:00:54.557 to be stranger than what it is it's true so do we have stranger things than 00:00:54.557 --> 00:00:58.557 stranger things to talk about I mean, yeah, we do. 00:00:58.797 --> 00:01:03.477 What Stranger Things is based on? Project Montauk. Yeah, Project Montauk. 00:01:04.397 --> 00:01:08.777 Which was the original title of the series was Montauk. Yeah. 00:01:09.537 --> 00:01:12.357 By the Duffer brothers, Ross and Matt. Yeah. 00:01:13.596 --> 00:01:16.996 I didn't know that. Ross and Matt Duffer. 00:01:18.256 --> 00:01:21.896 Do you know anything about them? Because I have a short history. 00:01:22.136 --> 00:01:24.636 I know a lot about Project Montauk. Yeah. 00:01:25.016 --> 00:01:27.056 Yeah, you know what? Start with that. Let's go. 00:01:27.496 --> 00:01:30.676 You want to eat your candy and then we'll get to it? No, I think I can do both 00:01:30.676 --> 00:01:32.716 at the same time. Okay, cool. Let me have it, man. 00:01:33.216 --> 00:01:36.276 So there's this dude, right? Preston Nichols. Yeah. He wrote a book about it. 00:01:36.996 --> 00:01:42.516 But basically, it's like every high strangeness thing that could be is there. 00:01:42.516 --> 00:01:45.376 You got ufos you got uaps you got aliens you 00:01:45.376 --> 00:01:48.456 got time travel you got uh psyops you 00:01:48.456 --> 00:01:51.856 got you know uh time warping you got moving of 00:01:51.856 --> 00:01:55.456 consciousness you've got everything you 00:01:55.456 --> 00:01:58.336 know the the montauk boys are kind of what create are the 00:01:58.336 --> 00:02:01.596 the the general idea between 11 and 00:02:01.596 --> 00:02:05.076 all of her cohorts the numbers the numbers and 00:02:05.076 --> 00:02:08.456 like there's like warp portals and like basically this was 00:02:08.456 --> 00:02:11.736 a this was secondary to um the 00:02:11.736 --> 00:02:15.316 philadelphia project which happened on uss eldritch but 00:02:15.316 --> 00:02:18.096 they were at at montauk they 00:02:18.096 --> 00:02:20.896 were working on like different sound weapons they were 00:02:20.896 --> 00:02:24.016 working on giving enhancing the psychic 00:02:24.016 --> 00:02:26.756 ability of uh children with innate 00:02:26.756 --> 00:02:29.636 powers there's a theory that we all have innate powers and 00:02:29.636 --> 00:02:32.856 they were figuring out how to open up them there's the concept 00:02:32.856 --> 00:02:35.616 that we had alien tech there and that's why we 00:02:35.616 --> 00:02:38.396 were able to do everything so successfully there but we couldn't 00:02:38.396 --> 00:02:41.676 replicate the tech or or you know um uh reverse 00:02:41.676 --> 00:02:44.736 engineer any of it there's a there's a crazy theory 00:02:44.736 --> 00:02:47.776 that the jersey devil was created at montauk because at 00:02:47.776 --> 00:02:50.476 one point one of my favorite parts about it is that they were 00:02:50.476 --> 00:02:53.876 working on like hybrids like kind of like camara-esque 00:02:53.876 --> 00:02:57.536 type thing yeah pigmen pigmen yeah. 00:02:57.536 --> 00:03:00.816 But there's a theory that the jersey devil was created 00:03:00.816 --> 00:03:03.876 there got loose and just ended up in in 00:03:03.876 --> 00:03:06.916 uh jersey and was like hell yeah this is where i'm gonna stick but 00:03:06.916 --> 00:03:09.576 i don't like that theory about the jersey devil i like the fact that it was like 00:03:09.576 --> 00:03:13.076 the seventh kid born out 00:03:13.076 --> 00:03:15.876 of a a woman who was a witch back in 00:03:15.876 --> 00:03:19.536 the day and so like there was like a deal with the devil i think and that's 00:03:19.536 --> 00:03:24.816 what created the the jersey devil yeah yeah but there's so like these guys like 00:03:24.816 --> 00:03:30.916 were like in there's a so much crazy stuff happening here right and so these 00:03:30.916 --> 00:03:33.596 these guys preston nichols um and there were two, 00:03:34.496 --> 00:03:36.356 brothers who went by different names. 00:03:36.676 --> 00:03:41.556 But there's a story about one of them having his. 00:03:42.503 --> 00:03:47.183 Goes through the whole Montauk project, and at the end of the Montauk project, which ended like 83, 00:03:47.963 --> 00:03:54.703 86, something like that, and he goes back in time, his consciousness goes back 00:03:54.703 --> 00:04:00.923 in time to when he's a baby, and he claims that he remembers what's happening 00:04:00.923 --> 00:04:02.843 but can't communicate because he's a baby, 00:04:02.863 --> 00:04:05.543 but he goes back in time to create the Montauk project, 00:04:05.663 --> 00:04:07.863 which is what he left when he had finished the Montauk project, 00:04:07.923 --> 00:04:09.143 so it's like a time loop thing, 00:04:09.303 --> 00:04:12.943 but it's crazy, this whole like sending consciousness back through a time loop 00:04:12.943 --> 00:04:16.403 or time warp thing and there's like a a. 00:04:16.983 -->
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00:04:19.923 Spaceship that's doing warp drive out there and 00:04:19.923 --> 00:04:22.783 then they can like uh they can they have 00:04:22.783 --> 00:04:26.083 uh tunnels underneath that like take you from the 00:04:26.083 --> 00:04:29.103 edge of long island montauk to all the way to california in 00:04:29.103 --> 00:04:31.783 like i don't know 35 minutes or an 00:04:31.783 --> 00:04:35.663 hour or something there's like just crazy stuff 00:04:35.663 --> 00:04:38.903 there's like a there's this thing called like i think it's called the montauk 00:04:38.903 --> 00:04:42.043 chair but it's basically like cerebro yeah 00:04:42.043 --> 00:04:45.363 um and it just amplified whoever's power 00:04:45.363 --> 00:04:48.563 like they were claiming that whoever if 00:04:48.563 --> 00:04:51.623 they sat there and they were you know it would amplify them 00:04:51.623 --> 00:04:54.563 to the fact where like if i wanted if 00:04:54.563 --> 00:04:58.243 i wanted to have a chair i could just fully materialize 00:04:58.243 --> 00:05:01.063 a chair next to me like it wasn't like i can 00:05:01.063 --> 00:05:04.403 lift up that chair and fling it over here no like literally cause 00:05:04.403 --> 00:05:07.743 atoms and matter to shift into a chair and 00:05:07.743 --> 00:05:10.663 you know the montauk boys obviously uh they 00:05:10.663 --> 00:05:13.663 were put through such traumatic and trauma 00:05:13.663 --> 00:05:19.043 inducing events to like heighten their powers and like there's like something 00:05:19.043 --> 00:05:23.243 about them i forget the full detail but something about them wanting to the 00:05:23.243 --> 00:05:26.903 the scientists wanting to harness the fear off of them because they wanted to 00:05:26.903 --> 00:05:30.743 use the fear in some regard which um. 00:05:31.808 --> 00:05:36.808 Is terrible and crazy. Um, but it aligns with other, like, you know, 00:05:37.088 --> 00:05:40.988 other high strangeness theories about like some of these, and some entities 00:05:40.988 --> 00:05:44.688 living off of fear, living off of that type of energy. 00:05:44.808 --> 00:05:49.008 It makes them stronger, but they're developed, you know, you've heard of Havana syndrome, right? 00:05:49.168 --> 00:05:53.008 So Havana syndrome has happened to a lot, a couple of our nationals down in 00:05:53.008 --> 00:05:58.108 Cuba years ago, but basically humans are affected by sound frequencies, right? 00:05:58.368 --> 00:06:01.168 And so there's only a certain amount we can hear 00:06:01.168 --> 00:06:04.048 the highest and the lowest and then if we go above 00:06:04.048 --> 00:06:06.768 or below our bodies are affected i mean our bodies are 00:06:06.768 --> 00:06:09.828 affected by everything we're just you know jello packets 00:06:09.828 --> 00:06:12.908 wrapped in the skin so like we are 00:06:12.908 --> 00:06:16.068 affected by the magnetic field we're affected by sound 00:06:16.068 --> 00:06:20.148 like it's you know a lot of like ghostly 00:06:20.148 --> 00:06:22.968 things can be attributed to high emf readings which give 00:06:22.968 --> 00:06:25.948 us headaches and dizziness and nausea and sound 00:06:25.948 --> 00:06:29.068 does the same thing and so they were developing sound weapons 00:06:29.068 --> 00:06:32.208 which is the havana syndrome which is what i'm getting to where these 00:06:32.208 --> 00:06:35.068 people were getting so disoriented and like vomiting and to 00:06:35.068 --> 00:06:37.928 the point where they couldn't really focus it was a it's 00:06:37.928 --> 00:06:40.928 an attack of some sort you know so they were developing these weapons 00:06:40.928 --> 00:06:43.568 to you know 00:06:43.568 --> 00:06:46.628 obviously for war or whatever but so many 00:06:46.628 --> 00:06:49.368 different things were being uh worked on there like they 00:06:49.368 --> 00:06:52.208 were exploring magnetic fields and and how that 00:06:52.208 --> 00:06:55.468 affected the psychic capabilities of these kids and then 00:06:55.468 --> 00:06:58.408 you know how it ended no well so i 00:06:58.408 --> 00:07:01.628 this is the i've heard two different stories of how why 00:07:01.628 --> 00:07:04.508 montauk ended and i've also heard that it's still going 00:07:04.508 --> 00:07:08.388 so like it all goes it's a little grain of salt right but like one of the main 00:07:08.388 --> 00:07:15.348 powerful psychics somehow created an entity and i forget the name like they 00:07:15.348 --> 00:07:21.708 named it but basically created an entity and the entity just got out of hand 00:07:21.708 --> 00:07:23.028 and destroyed the place. 00:07:24.156 --> 00:07:28.036 Or, um, and then they eventually, I guess, killed it. 00:07:28.076 --> 00:07:34.396 Um, or the other one is that some evil, uh, an alien species we did not, 00:07:34.396 --> 00:07:39.736 uh, get along with broke through the, the, the, uh, portal that we had there 00:07:39.736 --> 00:07:41.176 and he did the same thing. 00:07:41.376 --> 00:07:45.296 It was kind of like what happens with the upside down and the Demi, you know? 00:07:45.516 --> 00:07:49.576 So, and that also killed, you know, a bunch of scientists. 00:07:49.576 --> 00:07:52.336 So like, and the thing is, is that like, they brought a bunch of 00:07:52.336 --> 00:07:55.216 people from the Philadelphia experiment over here but they were all apparently 00:07:55.216 --> 00:07:58.076 all 90 of them were brainwashed like some of 00:07:58.076 --> 00:08:00.696 the top scientists weren't because the government was like we're not 00:08:00.696 --> 00:08:03.476 screwing with your science we're not screwing with your heads we need you 00:08:03.476 --> 00:08:06.616 we need you to make better stronger faster machines and 00:08:06.616 --> 00:08:12.336 guns so we can make a bunch of money but yeah montauk is crazy interesting it's 00:08:12.336 --> 00:08:17.376 like got it's got tidbits of every aspect of like the high strangeness phenomena 00:08:17.376 --> 00:08:23.496 yeah and it's all on long island so
is mk montauk no mk ultra that's a different 00:08:23.496 --> 00:08:24.776 that's a different oh okay. 00:08:26.356 --> 00:08:29.236 I'll make my cook now well that's yeah 00:08:29.236 --> 00:08:31.976 obviously too most of what 00:08:31.976 --> 00:08:35.236 you just said clearly seems like all the 00:08:35.236 --> 00:08:40.416 inspiration for for the series which is they they this was what they based this 00:08:40.416 --> 00:08:48.216 on was all this stuff the what i read of the duff the the the the limited biography 00:08:48.216 --> 00:08:52.536 of the Duffer brothers was that they were making films. 00:08:53.486 --> 00:09:00.046 Uh from a young age yeah and like they made a film oh my god what was uh magic 00:09:00.046 --> 00:09:03.926 the gathering they made a film about magic yeah yeah when they were young like 00:09:03.926 --> 00:09:08.446 their first feature film was like an adaptation of the card game that makes 00:09:08.446 --> 00:09:11.966 sense yeah which which obviously also shares this lore, 00:09:12.806 --> 00:09:18.226 um does it i think it's i mean it might it's dungeons and drag i thought magic 00:09:18.226 --> 00:09:23.166 also had it might it probably does because i mean because they pull from a lot yeah, 00:09:23.686 --> 00:09:27.486 So, because I just remember somebody, like, you know, would be like, 00:09:27.566 --> 00:09:28.986 oh, and it's like Stranger Things. 00:09:29.866 --> 00:09:32.386 Magic the Gathering, Dungeons and Dragons. 00:09:32.886 --> 00:09:37.366 NASCAR. NASCAR. All the same things. That's where the Demogorgons are. Yeah. 00:09:38.066 --> 00:09:41.546 But, so that was like their first film. I mean, they always made films together. 00:09:41.906 --> 00:09:47.986 And they, like, through, they directed some episodes, four episodes of Wayward 00:09:47.986 --> 00:09:52.886 Pines, which if you've never seen. Wait, I think you told me to watch. 00:09:53.166 --> 00:09:55.986 Matt dylan's in it yeah so if you i don't 00:09:55.986 --> 00:09:58.926 know if you saw it or not the wolf where the wolf thing yeah yeah 00:09:58.926 --> 00:10:03.526 the wolf creatures yeah that was a cool i mean that's some of that concept yeah 00:10:03.526 --> 00:10:10.126 yeah i'm pretty sure you did it's basically like you you it's it's you know 00:10:10.126 --> 00:10:16.526 people being abducted and then they end up in a uh like a gated community where 00:10:16.526 --> 00:10:18.206 everybody's pretending like everything's fine, 00:10:18.886 --> 00:10:23.206 then you find out what it is is people were actually put into cryosleep and 00:10:23.206 --> 00:10:26.746 then woke up and this is like hundreds of years in the future. 00:10:27.938 --> 00:10:32.598 And humanity is like wiped out outside this area. There's these werewolf creatures. 00:10:33.178 --> 00:10:39.258 You know who we need? That's the thing. And it's like if you see the poster 00:10:39.258 --> 00:10:42.758 for it, it's like a child holding a giant wolf man's hand. 00:10:43.478
--> 00:10:46.718 Yeah, yeah. So then there's two seasons. They only did two seasons. 00:10:46.898 --> 00:10:51.618 And the second season takes place like I think 10 years in the future after 00:10:51.618 --> 00:10:55.978 the first one or something like that. Yeah, yeah, from the first one. 00:10:56.818 --> 00:10:59.498 And you think at first people just getting abducted and then 00:10:59.498 --> 00:11:02.178 taking somewhere else then you find out it's the future and then you find out there's these 00:11:02.178 --> 00:11:05.178 creatures and it's it's pretty wild but 00:11:05.178 --> 00:11:08.198 like it also makes sense you know like the the 00:11:08.198 --> 00:11:10.998 you know that they that they would be 00:11:10.998 --> 00:11:13.798 good for that and then they wanted to 00:11:13.798 --> 00:11:16.558 do the what movie did 00:11:16.558 --> 00:11:19.538 they want to make I forget what I forget there 00:11:19.538 --> 00:11:22.238 was like a specific movie that they like were like we want to make 00:11:22.238 --> 00:11:25.158 this and they didn't let him maybe the halloween movie or something like that 00:11:25.158 --> 00:11:27.878 the first remake that went to rob zon or something like 00:11:27.878 --> 00:11:31.478 that but they uh wow god 00:11:31.478 --> 00:11:34.298 there's there was more to this probably not and 00:11:34.298 --> 00:11:37.218 then they did stranger things crazy yeah crazy 00:11:37.218 --> 00:11:40.418 and they didn't they didn't think they'd get greenlit but they did 00:11:40.418 --> 00:11:43.558 and uh thank goodness too 00:11:43.558 --> 00:11:46.538 and it's just like because stranger things first 00:11:46.538 --> 00:11:49.538 off it's like clearly i think you can you call it 00:11:49.538 --> 00:11:53.138 a phenomenon just like because of just how it just 00:11:53.138 --> 00:11:56.198 came out of nowhere all of a sudden it's out there and it 00:11:56.198 --> 00:11:59.118 it's it it was different than anything else we'd see 00:11:59.118 --> 00:12:02.578 you know and then it also thrust you know play. 00:12:02.578 --> 00:12:05.538 It it did well the let's put kids as 00:12:05.538 --> 00:12:08.698 the main characters yeah it's very like you know he's yeah 00:12:08.698 --> 00:12:11.838 it's that it combines so many elements of 00:12:11.838 --> 00:12:17.678 things we love yeah so there's an air of nostalgia to it which is like you know 00:12:17.678 --> 00:12:21.678 taking that and then also adding this deep sci-fi element also kind of tied 00:12:21.678 --> 00:12:27.058 to clearly real real events but then also just going for it and then being able 00:12:27.058 --> 00:12:29.218 to pay homage homage to like every. 00:12:30.158 --> 00:12:37.858 All their favorite movies have all this stuff in there and like it it's truly 00:12:37.858 --> 00:12:43.418 i think one of the best tv series of all time for sure like it just kind of 00:12:43.418 --> 00:12:49.578 like it did that you know and like even Even though season three wasn't the best. 00:12:49.978 --> 00:12:54.678 What happened in season three? Season three was like the body part monster. 00:12:55.078 --> 00:12:58.958 Was that one where- In the mall. Oh, that's one where Billy bites it, 00:12:59.018 --> 00:13:01.418 right? Billy bites it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:13:02.078 --> 00:13:07.318 First season is, so I mean, this is how I rank them. Okay. First season's the 00:13:07.318 --> 00:13:09.018 best. Yeah. Fourth is second. 00:13:09.458 --> 00:13:13.958 Okay. Second is third. Okay. Third is fourth. All right, this is how I rank them. 00:13:14.478 --> 00:13:20.578 Yeah. I got I got one and then I do two. 00:13:21.916 --> 00:13:24.836 And then after that, I'll probably do three. 00:13:25.816 --> 00:13:31.136 And then we'll go into four. Cool. No, you just, you didn't rank them. 00:13:31.236 --> 00:13:33.256 You just, you just put them in order. 00:13:33.896 --> 00:13:37.596 Well, yeah, that's why. You agree. Yeah, that's my order. That's the order. 00:13:38.136 --> 00:13:41.716 You know what it is? That's JJ's recommended viewing order. There you go. 00:13:41.896 --> 00:13:43.456 I agree with that too. Yeah. 00:13:43.656 --> 00:13:46.976 See? That's the order I would watch them in. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. 00:13:47.616 --> 00:13:53.076 And obviously season five coming in 2025, hopefully. Oh, look at that. 00:13:53.396 --> 00:13:55.636 Anybody out there in numerology? 00:13:56.136 --> 00:14:01.196 Anybody's into numerology, call in. Let us know what those numbers mean. Yeah, 525. 00:14:02.976 --> 00:14:07.596 525, season five. S. S. There's five syllables in S. 00:14:07.976 --> 00:14:11.596 Yeah, season five. Five is the shape of an S. Yeah. It's five seasons. 00:14:11.796 --> 00:14:15.196 Please, anybody in numerology, give us a ring. 00:14:15.636 --> 00:14:19.676 We were out here thinking there's four seasons, and there's actually five seasons. 00:14:19.896 --> 00:14:24.916 Yeah. that makes you wonder makes you wonder Four Seasons Landscaping are we 00:14:24.916 --> 00:14:30.616 getting a phone call uh no no that's just that was just some ringing in my ear yeah yeah, 00:14:32.216 --> 00:14:35.776 does that happen to you sometimes one year just starts a loud ringing and you 00:14:35.776 --> 00:14:38.156 gotta snap it to make it go away no, 00:14:38.756 --> 00:14:45.336 no not often so it doesn't no never alright we're good alright alright it's 00:14:45.336 --> 00:14:49.956 gone put it on silent I wish I could man put your brain on silent, 00:14:50.856 --> 00:14:56.736 I would love that I'd love that but obviously the. 00:14:58.776 --> 00:15:04.516 Child cast I thought you were going to say child cats and then I was like imagine 00:15:04.516 --> 00:15:10.276 if they were all cats yeah well that didn't go that well for Dustin's cat in season 2 no, 00:15:11.856 --> 00:15:20.576 poor guy he's dead now he is first off Like, you know, in season one, 00:15:20.896 --> 00:15:25.836 the reason I,
obviously for me, usually you never top the original. 00:15:26.236 --> 00:15:29.676 But like a lot of shows, it's like, you know, Breaking Bad, things like that. 00:15:30.136 --> 00:15:34.596 Because they know they're going to tell this huge narrative over several seasons, 00:15:34.596 --> 00:15:39.816 it takes like the first season to get your bearings, to figure it out, you know. 00:15:39.816 --> 00:15:46.476 And for this show it just felt like first season, if that was the only season 00:15:46.476 --> 00:15:48.276 we got, that would be enough of a story. 00:15:49.265 --> 00:15:53.625 You know, it's almost like every season they do. The exception of three and 00:15:53.625 --> 00:15:56.425 four, I felt like even at the end of season two, it could have been done. 00:15:56.705 --> 00:16:00.425 So you're saying, you know, like they're doing this good. 50%. 00:16:01.225 --> 00:16:05.085 Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's just like it. Five again. 00:16:05.545 --> 00:16:10.005 Numerology. The thrill of it and the story that they tell fits into the seasons. 00:16:10.985 --> 00:16:14.705 And like numbers one and two could finish. 00:16:15.945 --> 00:16:19.445 That would have been fine, you know, if that's all we got. But then three and 00:16:19.445 --> 00:16:24.665 four came, and now, obviously, three and four ended with, we're not done yet. 00:16:24.665 --> 00:16:25.525 They've built bigger things. Yeah, yeah. 00:16:25.945 --> 00:16:30.565 They've built bigger things. It created unresolved concepts and stuff. 00:16:30.585 --> 00:16:33.525 I feel like there's going to be a time skip for the start of season five. 00:16:33.585 --> 00:16:37.545 I think there has to be, because they're adults now. They're all 22, 00:16:37.805 --> 00:16:39.465 right? Married and stuff. 00:16:39.845 --> 00:16:43.545 They have their own children acting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:16:44.405 --> 00:16:49.485 I feel like the upside down is going to infect the real world like more so than it ever has. 00:16:49.565 --> 00:16:52.685 Well, that's how it ended, right? Is that Hawkins is open. 00:16:53.585 --> 00:16:57.485 Hawkins was like cracked open to the... So yeah, I agree. I feel like it's going 00:16:57.485 --> 00:17:05.205 to be like they're going to be part of leading the mini rebels against the King in Black. 00:17:05.365 --> 00:17:08.125 What's this guy? Number one, right? Vecna. Vecna. Vecna. 00:17:09.025 --> 00:17:12.485 Yeah, number one. He doesn't look like he eats cheese. I'll tell you that. 00:17:12.485 --> 00:17:14.885 No, he looks like he eats roots. 00:17:15.365 --> 00:17:21.125 I also feel like every season brings in, like, they haven't brought in a character. 00:17:21.345 --> 00:17:25.945 And they didn't kill him off. That's been like, oh, God, we don't need this. 00:17:26.125 --> 00:17:29.385 Like, it's never been, like, successfully introduced a character that we should 00:17:29.385 --> 00:17:33.205 care about that, you know, it didn't. 00:17:33.825 --> 00:17:37.425 He's like Barb in the first. And then, like, the second season, we've got Bob. 00:17:38.265 --> 00:17:41.285 Barb, Bob. Billy. Then Billy. Died. 00:17:41.285 --> 00:17:44.465 Who died with a b in season four well papa 00:17:44.465 --> 00:17:48.405 died papa matthew modine yeah who's i 00:17:48.405 --> 00:17:51.445 think his name was dr brennan yeah so b 00:17:51.445 --> 00:17:54.825 b right there hey killer bees who's who 00:17:54.825 --> 00:18:00.245 starts with b in season five who's a b name find out whoever's b i'm sorry well 00:18:00.245 --> 00:18:08.385 we got jonathan steve nancy we got dustin Lucas Will Will Bill I think starts 00:18:08.385 --> 00:18:14.705 going by Bill 11 Who's Yeah Mike Mike Hopper What's Hopper's first name? 00:18:16.005 --> 00:18:20.185 Joyce Dad Dad Daddy It's definitely Daddy. 00:18:21.520 --> 00:18:26.020 Well, I think maybe Mike's dad's name is Bill or something. I don't know. Oh. 00:18:26.580 --> 00:18:30.460 Well, that would explain certain things. Yeah. Wasn't that like a, 00:18:30.540 --> 00:18:35.760 wasn't there like Mike's mom had a little flirtatious with Billy? With Billy, yeah. 00:18:35.840 --> 00:18:38.680 And she did not go see him. She didn't do anything with it, but. 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.740 Yeah, and that was the time that he got into the accident. 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:46.240 Right. Because of the creature. Right, right. And that's when he got tooked. 00:18:46.340 --> 00:18:50.240 It tooked him real good. It tooked him. I saw he was one of like the best. 00:18:50.360 --> 00:18:50.720 You almost got tooked from us. Yeah. 00:18:51.080 --> 00:18:54.560 And he was, he, who? You. 00:18:54.760 --> 00:18:57.220 Me? You almost got took. Oh, yeah, I almost got took one time. 00:18:57.420 --> 00:19:00.640 I don't like to talk about it. No, but I think about it often. The demons. 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.080 They rattled my bed, and I said, go, go from this place. 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:07.780 You are not welcome here. This place shall be clean. And then they left. 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.000 And then they left. And then you texted me. 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:14.280 Yeah, then I texted you maybe like a week later, because I was processing it. 00:19:15.500 --> 00:19:18.700 I was also processing a lot at the time. Yeah, you had a lot to process. 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:21.220 Yeah. But that's when they come for you. Yeah, that's when they come. 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.620 But leading back to that, you know, trying to tap into that primal fear, they feed off of it. 00:19:25.780 --> 00:19:28.700 Yeah, they loved it. They loved it. They eat that shit like Velveeta cheese 00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:30.120 covered in some cheese. Yeah, they Montauk'd me. 00:19:30.300 --> 00:19:33.140 They Montauk'd you. It's a Montauk. 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:38.800 Music. 00:19:39.180 --> 00:19:44.240 Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven. Probably one of the, I mean, obviously the iconic 00:19:44.240 -->
00:19:46.980 character of this whole series. 00:19:47.735 --> 00:19:51.275 And just, you know, somebody who's very celebrated for it. 00:19:51.795 --> 00:19:55.035 Very Kaneda-like. Yeah, just doing great. 00:19:55.335 --> 00:19:58.735 Has created an amazing character, especially just like, and that's it. 00:19:58.855 --> 00:19:59.915 It's like season one, too. 00:20:01.115 --> 00:20:08.735 It's always weird with child actors, too, as they grow up in your series. 00:20:08.735 --> 00:20:12.615 And you're like, okay, I have to agree that these are still kids. 00:20:12.755 --> 00:20:15.775 And then they get older and you're like, okay, well, 00:20:16.055 --> 00:20:19.555 now they're less interesting because they're people now they're 00:20:19.555 --> 00:20:23.355 people now and it's like okay i gotta that's how 00:20:23.355 --> 00:20:27.875 parents that's how my parents felt as i think that's like all right we're good 00:20:27.875 --> 00:20:32.375 here yeah it's like it's no longer impressive that you're doing what you're 00:20:32.375 --> 00:20:37.575 doing three years ago yeah you gotta you gotta take those acting classes now 00:20:37.575 --> 00:20:41.355 you know yeah your voices are just like these crackly little. 00:20:42.415 --> 00:20:46.495 Your high-pitched kid voices now you go peaked young 00:20:46.495 --> 00:20:51.915 that's the problem can't peak young in this day and age my favorite 00:20:51.915 --> 00:20:54.655 my favorite of the kids is dustin yeah yeah 00:20:54.655 --> 00:20:58.135 i like dustin i like dustin he's uh gaten matarazzo 00:20:58.135 --> 00:21:05.055 he's excellent very funny when you're funny yeah well done he's got a he's got 00:21:05.055 --> 00:21:08.395 a girlfriend in it who's your least favorite who's your least favorite of the 00:21:08.395 --> 00:21:17.315 kids of the kids it's definitely uh it's it's mike mike's boring mike's boring and it's like the least. 00:21:18.275 --> 00:21:25.915 He just he goes oh oh well i think that's about you know that's i will say that's 00:21:25.915 --> 00:21:29.855 always the hard part right when you're writing a series is and you've got a 00:21:29.855 --> 00:21:33.635 cast that keeps growing and growing trying to figure out who needs to do what 00:21:33.635 --> 00:21:36.975 and how to do what for each character and like Yeah. Story arc. 00:21:37.155 --> 00:21:43.075 We don't have to focus on the negatives. I'm just making conversation and jokes. 00:21:43.495 --> 00:21:48.795 They're obviously all talented. So we can focus on the positives here, like David Harbour. 00:21:49.661 --> 00:21:53.981 David Harbour, Hellboy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chief Hopper. Chief Hopper. 00:21:54.181 --> 00:21:56.901 Mornings are for Coffee and Contemplation. I like that. 00:21:57.321 --> 00:22:03.981 And his character is, he's my favorite character from it. Sure, yeah. 00:22:04.841 --> 00:22:07.901 Just like the moments they give him. 00:22:08.021 --> 00:22:12.181 He's your favorite type of archetype. Yeah, your reluctant father figure. 00:22:12.981 --> 00:22:14.301 I pay attention when you speak. 00:22:16.001 --> 00:22:19.581 Because he's a damaged father. Because he's a deceased father. 00:22:19.661 --> 00:22:22.501 Yeah, well, the father of a, yeah. What? 00:22:23.021 --> 00:22:28.281 A deceased father? Yeah. He's a father of, yeah. He's a widowed. Yeah, yeah. 00:22:28.881 --> 00:22:31.621 Anyway. Wait, is he an orphaned? No. 00:22:32.301 --> 00:22:37.521 He orphaned a child. No, he's an alcoholic. Right. I think that's the term. 00:22:38.281 --> 00:22:44.261 No, he, yeah, he lost a daughter, and that's when you find out about that at 00:22:44.261 --> 00:22:48.521 the end of season one. They can do the flashbacks there. Yeah, yeah. 00:22:49.441 --> 00:22:54.641 We got Winona Ryder. I just know that Will is here. Coming out of nowhere, doing her thing. 00:22:54.841 --> 00:22:56.821 Coming out of nowhere. Doing great. What are you coming out of nowhere? 00:22:56.841 --> 00:22:58.181 I'm just coming back out of nowhere. Oh. 00:22:58.921 --> 00:23:01.941 Like, you know. This woman had a whole freaking career. She had a whole career, 00:23:02.361 --> 00:23:05.841 shoplifted, popped back up in Stranger Things. Came back in. 00:23:05.961 --> 00:23:07.701 Came back stronger than ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:23:08.281 --> 00:23:10.221 Whole new set of clothes. Yeah. Yeah. 00:23:11.541 --> 00:23:16.021 That woman did more between the years of 13 and 25 than you and I have combined. 00:23:16.021 --> 00:23:17.141 I understand. I'm just saying. 00:23:17.381 --> 00:23:21.601 Popping up, back up. doing her thing kicking butt good 00:23:21.601 --> 00:23:25.141 work she did great with the light bulbs yeah it's 00:23:25.141 --> 00:23:28.001 good acting with the light yeah yeah the light bulb oh yeah yeah 00:23:28.001 --> 00:23:30.921 for sure you know what they say they say if you're for an actor they 00:23:30.921 --> 00:23:34.061 say never be on stage with a dog or a 00:23:34.061 --> 00:23:36.821 baby or light bulbs they will always 00:23:36.821 --> 00:23:40.101 that it yeah they'll always draw more attention than you a light 00:23:40.101 --> 00:23:44.321 bulb a dog or a baby oh yeah well not in that order a dog a baby or a light 00:23:44.321 --> 00:23:49.081 bulb because they're they're so living in the moment the light bulbs are is 00:23:49.081 --> 00:23:53.441 this i think i added the light bulb yeah but what i'm saying is that all three 00:23:53.441 --> 00:23:57.841 you don't compete with those you can't as an actor as yeah what i've been told, 00:23:58.821 --> 00:24:03.341 but the light look look at us if we stared if these lights changed right now 00:24:03.341 --> 00:24:10.601 i'd be staring at that light not you yeah it's true cue the light change no 00:24:10.601 --> 00:24:15.601 just kidding we that call you have yes Yeah, please call her. 00:24:16.081 --> 00:24:18.741 So we got Barb. Barb got got. And I thought that whole thing. 00:24:18.741 -->
00:24:21.001 You know who should be in this? Billy Bob Thornton. 00:24:21.561 --> 00:24:24.581 Billy Bob Thornton would be a welcome addition. He would be dead before the 00:24:24.581 --> 00:24:27.701 season started. He's got two Bs. Yeah, you're true. 00:24:29.281 --> 00:24:33.421 This is all the characters. They should name him Billy Bob. Yeah. 00:24:33.541 --> 00:24:34.321 But change his last name. 00:24:34.761 --> 00:24:37.661 Billy Bob Thornton. Ooh, I like that. 00:24:38.697 --> 00:24:43.357 Bobby Bills. Bobby Bills. Ooh. I just got chills on that one. 00:24:43.377 --> 00:24:44.977 Yeah, if somebody, it will be funny. 00:24:45.157 --> 00:24:48.997 I will now pay attention. If somebody is added to the cast with the first name 00:24:48.997 --> 00:24:50.937 of the B, I'll be like, uh-oh. 00:24:51.217 --> 00:24:54.817 Uh-oh, they playing with us now. You Duffer brothers, you know what's up. 00:24:55.237 --> 00:24:58.377 Brothers, B. Maybe they're going to kill themselves. Ooh. 00:24:58.957 --> 00:25:03.817 So the whole scene with Barb and like. Justice for Barb. The pool. 00:25:04.357 --> 00:25:06.917 Yeah. Just like that. I just thought that was just so well done. 00:25:06.917 --> 00:25:12.117 It was a very good, eerie. You have him taking photos, which is weird. 00:25:12.497 --> 00:25:14.257 Yeah, he's a weird guy. 00:25:14.657 --> 00:25:19.297 He'd be creepy in that first one. Yeah, Jonathan Byers, Charlie Heaton. 00:25:19.437 --> 00:25:22.497 They brought that back. They lightened up the creepiness on him. 00:25:22.677 --> 00:25:26.857 And they lightened up the bully on the other one. 00:25:27.097 --> 00:25:30.517 And Steve, Steve Harrington. Steve Hair Harrington. Joe Keery. 00:25:31.177 --> 00:25:34.657 Do you know he's a musician? That makes sense. He's got the hair for it. 00:25:34.657 --> 00:25:38.217 His name is Joe. It's D-J-O. 00:25:38.857 --> 00:25:41.497 That's his uh i think it's a i think he's kind of 00:25:41.497 --> 00:25:44.337 like a dj but he does music and it's he's popping up 00:25:44.337 --> 00:25:48.397 on one of my playlists right now wait super bloom joe but 00:25:48.397 --> 00:25:51.097 it's dj oh that's like his joe but the 00:25:51.097 --> 00:25:59.137 d is silent it's like dj oh you know what you might go by dj oh i know because 00:25:59.137 --> 00:26:07.217 it's one it's one word it's joe it's like adding the d jaw i don't know joe 00:26:07.217 --> 00:26:08.717 but uh i can't remember I heard a song. 00:26:09.701 --> 00:26:14.021 But I listened to it. Oh. Well done, Joe Keery. Well done. Your music. 00:26:15.081 --> 00:26:20.681 Also, he's one of my favorite characters in a way. Just like his metamorphosis, you know? Yeah, yeah. 00:26:20.921 --> 00:26:27.121 Bully to just like kind of being a better person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:26:27.421 --> 00:26:32.521 And then getting broken up with and then becoming the babysitter character. Yeah. 00:26:32.761 --> 00:26:37.221 And then being the, I guess fish out of order, but like, what is it? 00:26:37.301 --> 00:26:40.561 Forever Child. like his friendship with Dustin. 00:26:40.861 --> 00:26:43.401 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just what they do with that. That's always really good 00:26:43.401 --> 00:26:45.721 too. Like that's just a good thing. 00:26:46.861 --> 00:26:49.701 Oh, that's a good way to button that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Way to button that. 00:26:49.701 --> 00:26:52.141 There you go. It plays really well. 00:26:52.621 --> 00:26:55.941 Also with season four, bringing Eddie into it. Eddie Izzard. 00:26:56.421 --> 00:27:01.121 Eddie, no. Oh. I forget his last name. Van Halen. Eddie, no. 00:27:02.681 --> 00:27:05.221 Is it Eddie? Joseph Quinn, who's going to be. 00:27:08.161 --> 00:27:10.941 Joseph Quinn, who's going to be the Human Torch. Human T. 00:27:11.341 --> 00:27:16.121 Yeah, Human Torch in Fantastic Four, set in the 60s. 00:27:16.341 --> 00:27:19.421 It's going to be called Four Times. Four. 00:27:20.781 --> 00:27:24.881 Force Majora. They should call it four times zero equals doom. 00:27:25.801 --> 00:27:29.621 Get it? Because if they separate, they're not a family and they lose. 00:27:29.821 --> 00:27:31.981 They come together as a family and they're stronger. 00:27:32.601 --> 00:27:37.221 Listen to that, Kevin. Yeah. or whoever's writing that script I don't know it's 00:27:37.221 --> 00:27:40.561 already written they've already shot it it's all AI it should be Dr. 00:27:40.781 --> 00:27:48.461 Mood I just imagined a moose when you said that moose doctor yeah Eddie's character 00:27:48.461 --> 00:27:55.001 and the whole upset you know the master of puppets playing the guitar to get 00:27:55.001 --> 00:27:56.241 all the bats to come to him, 00:27:57.001 --> 00:28:02.621 what a character what a and that's he brought this guy in made us love him, 00:28:03.256 --> 00:28:06.816 Right up until the end, and then he sacrificed his good. Yeah, 00:28:06.816 --> 00:28:07.656 but I knew they were going to kill him. 00:28:07.856 --> 00:28:11.676 Yeah, I mean, obviously, we hoped it wouldn't have. But they had to take somebody 00:28:11.676 --> 00:28:15.236 from, you know what I mean? Yeah, they had to. That's why Bob went. Early on, Barb went. 00:28:15.516 --> 00:28:17.536 Bob sacrificed himself. 00:28:17.876 --> 00:28:19.376 Billy sacrificed himself. 00:28:19.956 --> 00:28:22.656 This guy, Eddie Belvoir. No. 00:28:23.656 --> 00:28:28.356 Eddie. Who else died there to be in four? No, we didn't come up with one, right? Pop Pop. 00:28:28.816 --> 00:28:33.016 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dr. Brenner. I honestly don't know if that's his name. 00:28:33.256 --> 00:28:35.076 So don't quote me on this. 00:28:36.056 --> 00:28:40.596 And nobody's stopping us. It might have been Paul Reiser's. Paul Reiser, that's right. 00:28:41.196 --> 00:28:45.716 Mad About You, maybe. Is that a show that he's in? Strange About You. 00:28:45.996 --> 00:28:47.476 Strange About You. I like that. 00:28:48.776 --> 00:28:53.536 Perfect Strangers. Yeah,
Perfect Stranger Things. 00:28:54.236 --> 00:28:59.536 I bet that's an AI mashup somebody just did. I'm sure they all exist. 00:28:59.916 --> 00:29:03.036 I don't, that's just, talk about Stranger Things. 00:29:04.016 --> 00:29:11.236 It's AI robots intelligence but they don't have that in Stranger Things sticking 00:29:11.236 --> 00:29:15.816 to Stranger Things yeah talking about Stranger Things mm-hmm and things that 00:29:15.816 --> 00:29:18.996 are strange yeah sure uh Maya Hawk, 00:29:19.676 --> 00:29:23.176 coming in as oh it's Maya I thought it was Mia yeah coming in as Robin right 00:29:23.176 --> 00:29:29.836 yeah Robin sure she uh is it Mia Hawk I don't it's Maya yeah Ethan Hawk and 00:29:29.836 --> 00:29:31.796 Uma Thurman's daughter mm-hmm, 00:29:32.765 --> 00:29:35.605 I mean, she's her own person. Kicks her butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:29:35.685 --> 00:29:39.365 She's her own person. Just talking about the origin. Yeah, the origin. 00:29:39.885 --> 00:29:43.165 At the very, very beginning. Yeah, yeah. Her very, very beginnings. 00:29:43.365 --> 00:29:47.325 And she popped on the scene with that and popped it coming out of nowhere. Yeah. 00:29:47.905 --> 00:29:49.885 Coming out of nowhere. Oh, man. Kicking butt. 00:29:50.845 --> 00:29:54.265 Oh, boy. See, this is why I don't do the headphones. I can't. 00:29:54.325 --> 00:29:57.105 My head's not the right size. You didn't wear a weird hat. 00:29:57.425 --> 00:30:02.545 It's not a weird hat. It's literally the shape of my head. Your hair looks awful. You look awful. 00:30:02.765 --> 00:30:07.165 You look like one of the Who's from the Grinch, from the Jim Carrey one. 00:30:07.245 --> 00:30:09.725 Is my nose really? Yeah, because your nose is red. 00:30:09.905 --> 00:30:13.105 Why is my nose red? And your hair is like swooped up. 00:30:13.685 --> 00:30:16.345 It's curled. What do I look like? You look like a unicorn. 00:30:16.945 --> 00:30:20.145 You know, I saw a unicorn once. Yeah. Saw it with my dad. 00:30:20.805 --> 00:30:27.065 You know, rhinoceroses are just fat, fat unicorns, chubby unicorns. 00:30:29.665 --> 00:30:33.105 There's no rhinoceros in Stranger Things. I guess it does look weird. 00:30:33.105 --> 00:30:35.865 I think that's a missed opportunity. Well, season five. 00:30:36.425 --> 00:30:41.885 I thought that the season four reveal of Vecna was so well done. 00:30:42.025 --> 00:30:44.205 It was like one of those things like I didn't see it coming. 00:30:45.005 --> 00:30:48.265 What part? That it being the guy? The guy was Vecna. 00:30:49.205 --> 00:31:00.545 Interesting. I figured that the guy was Jamie Bell, or whatever his name is. 00:31:00.545 --> 00:31:03.605 I figured that that the number one 00:31:03.605 --> 00:31:07.525 was the kid from the house from 00:31:07.525 --> 00:31:10.805 the krill house right i figured that connection 00:31:10.805 --> 00:31:13.825 out but i did not didn't see that he was doing 00:31:13.825 --> 00:31:16.685 it the vecna was anything because like up until now 00:31:16.685 --> 00:31:19.885 it's just been like creatures from beyond and then 00:31:19.885 --> 00:31:22.725 finally this was the first time it was like somebody else you know 00:31:22.725 --> 00:31:27.025 that it was like a real person um so 00:31:27.025 --> 00:31:30.045 i thought that was really well done reveal especially it's like 00:31:30.045 --> 00:31:34.885 oh no 11 doesn't want to get her powers back because she already she killed 00:31:34.885 --> 00:31:41.485 a bunch of people already and uh and then they it's not it wasn't her yep oh 00:31:41.485 --> 00:31:48.525 it was a relief it was a relief yeah i just felt what's uh who uh who's he what's it, 00:31:50.365 --> 00:31:55.485 murray murray murray abraham no what's murray bartlett. 00:31:57.566 --> 00:32:04.246 Brett Gellman is the conspiracy theorist guy. Oh, yeah. Brett Gellman's the actor. Yeah. 00:32:04.586 --> 00:32:07.366 And I think his name in it is Murray. Yes, yes. 00:32:07.626 --> 00:32:13.126 And he's fantastic. I love him, yeah. He's just, everything he pops up in, he's a fleabag. Yeah. 00:32:13.926 --> 00:32:17.186 And I mean, good Lord, everything else too that I can't list. 00:32:17.886 --> 00:32:22.026 He was in, he did Lemon. He was in that movie Lemon. 00:32:22.506 --> 00:32:26.126 Okay. Which was, it's a really weird indie, which is fun. 00:32:26.486 --> 00:32:31.646 But you know he's great yeah i like that he finally got to use his whatever 00:32:31.646 --> 00:32:36.486 martial art form he yeah yeah he like kept talking about it yeah i'm i'm glad 00:32:36.486 --> 00:32:37.866 he got that moment in the sun. 00:32:39.806 --> 00:32:42.506 And it was i always think that's like obviously we talked 00:32:42.506 --> 00:32:45.446 about it for the meg episode where it's 00:32:45.446 --> 00:32:49.726 just like unexpected like people being unexpectedly adept 00:32:49.726 --> 00:32:52.986 at things yeah yeah you know like just whipping 00:32:52.986 --> 00:32:56.026 out martial arts at a certain time just like oh you you're 00:32:56.026 --> 00:32:58.886 you're actually an asset awesome it's the opposite of us people 00:32:58.886 --> 00:33:01.726 look yeah like you look like you would be useful at something 00:33:01.726 --> 00:33:05.606 and in that moment we prove unexpectedly inadequate yeah 00:33:05.606 --> 00:33:08.486 very inadequate very good how would 00:33:08.486 --> 00:33:13.106 you rank the villains from the demogorgon demogorgon mind 00:33:13.106 --> 00:33:16.066 flayer so the third in the third season that's just 00:33:16.066 --> 00:33:19.766 the mind flayer in a rotting corpse 00:33:19.766 --> 00:33:22.566 form right i think so it's 00:33:22.566 --> 00:33:25.306 just the mind i believe yeah i mean i like the 00:33:25.306 --> 00:33:28.346 mind flayer but i'm interested to see where the mind flayer 00:33:28.346 --> 00:33:32.126 exists with vecna like well didn't 00:33:32.126 --> 00:33:35.286 they destroy the mind flayer yeah because vecna
served 00:33:35.286 --> 00:33:39.686 the mind flayer he was doing the mind flayer's bidding right which i'm not gonna 00:33:39.686 --> 00:33:44.566 rewatch it but i i'm this is where I guess where I get a little like if does 00:33:44.566 --> 00:33:48.726 Vecna was powerful and then gain more power by going into the upside down or 00:33:48.726 --> 00:33:54.046 Vecna created the portal to the upside down yeah her. 00:33:55.478 --> 00:33:59.578 Eleven created the portal, blasting him through. Right. 00:34:00.898 --> 00:34:04.318 Yeah. So that was it. Yeah. So that's how it was created. 00:34:04.978 --> 00:34:09.038 And then he created more portals with the openings that he did. 00:34:09.038 --> 00:34:12.098 So the upside down always existed. She was just strong enough to punch through 00:34:12.098 --> 00:34:13.178 to it. Yeah, yeah. Right. 00:34:14.898 --> 00:34:17.478 Or they created it. I forget. 00:34:19.278 --> 00:34:22.558 I have to watch it. Anyway, put a pin in that. Look it up later. 00:34:23.018 --> 00:34:24.878 You know what? Look it up later. You know what? Here's what we'll do. 00:34:24.878 --> 00:34:28.618 The audience, me and Kyle are going to go watch this show, and then we're going 00:34:28.618 --> 00:34:30.138 to do a podcast about it. Yeah. 00:34:31.318 --> 00:34:34.838 New concept. We'll actually watch the thing. No, I just forget, 00:34:35.078 --> 00:34:36.438 obviously, a lot of details. 00:34:37.138 --> 00:34:43.438 But the whole Vecna thing where he possesses people, and then their bodies crumple 00:34:43.438 --> 00:34:46.898 up like that, that's so cool. Yeah. Just the concept of it all. 00:34:47.258 --> 00:34:49.918 So here's a question I have for you. Yeah, buddy. 00:34:50.978 --> 00:34:58.018 So if Vecna Vecna'd you, you got Vecna'd. Yeah. What song do you think would pull you out of it? 00:35:00.258 --> 00:35:03.818 What song do you think would pull you out of Vectra? Sandstorm. 00:35:04.718 --> 00:35:08.698 Sandstorm by DJ. Da Rude. Da Rude? Yeah, not DJ Doe. 00:35:08.720 --> 00:35:16.400 Music. 00:35:16.247 --> 00:35:19.267 I like that answer. That's one of the best answers. 00:35:19.727 --> 00:35:27.307 You know, it's hard to say. Can I guess? Yeah. Is it going to be Jeremy Renner? 00:35:27.967 --> 00:35:30.647 It might be. The main attraction. 00:35:32.647 --> 00:35:39.147 Oh, man. It might be just DJ Big Driss. Yeah. DJ Big Driss. Well, he- Wrapping in my ear. 00:35:39.867 --> 00:35:43.927 He does things to me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would do something else. 00:35:44.007 --> 00:35:46.607 Yeah. He'll bring me out of a stupor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:35:47.627 --> 00:35:52.287 He'll straighten my leg right out. Yeah. He'll wash those socks. Yeah, he will. 00:35:52.767 --> 00:35:58.927 I mean, right now, I like Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann and his Earth, 00:35:59.027 --> 00:36:00.567 The Earth, The Earth, Beth. What is that song? 00:36:01.827 --> 00:36:07.667 Blinded by the Light. Oh, wow. Yeah. You had a really
good answer. Darude. 00:36:08.267 --> 00:36:10.567 I mean, you know, just because I'm lit. Yeah, I'd just take Darude. 00:36:10.687 --> 00:36:13.827 Yeah, let's just both do Darude. How do you not get inspired by that? 00:36:14.047 --> 00:36:17.447 You can't. Fight back against a demon or root monster. 00:36:18.147 --> 00:36:19.687 You know, a second one for me? 00:36:20.507 --> 00:36:26.107 Dirty Vegas, Days Go By. There you go. Days go by and still I think. 00:36:26.447 --> 00:36:29.967 Oh, Let It Rock. Let It Rock by Kevin Rudolph and the other guy. 00:36:30.227 --> 00:36:35.067 What Does the Fox Say? There you go. What Does the Fox Say by Elvis? Yeah. 00:36:35.907 --> 00:36:40.027 There we go. Yeah, yeah. All these are good. Good options. We're going to be 00:36:40.027 --> 00:36:41.567 all right, man. That's what I learned. 00:36:41.847 --> 00:36:44.847 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to be A-OK. That's it. That's it. we're just gonna drop 00:36:44.847 --> 00:36:47.987 the beat on those we'll get right out oh shoot 00:36:47.987 --> 00:36:50.927 my lat is twitching the lad my lat 00:36:50.927 --> 00:36:54.927 lat oh god yeah stop i got pick it 00:36:54.927 --> 00:37:01.367 up put it down hang up put it on silent we uh i'm excited for what obviously 00:37:01.367 --> 00:37:07.387 vekna will be back season five i believe right yeah i mean he's got like he's 00:37:07.387 --> 00:37:12.027 just kind of got blasted away yeah he's still he's the big bad bad now got bird yeah. 00:37:13.591 --> 00:37:16.731 You got Bernard. What do you think? You think time travel going to happen? 00:37:17.331 --> 00:37:23.431 You think the kids are going to go back to when number one was a kid? It's possible. 00:37:24.451 --> 00:37:30.071 Yeah. I also like, that's one of the things I like about it is the pairings that they come up with. 00:37:30.431 --> 00:37:34.391 Like these characters will be together in this season. This character, you know what I mean? 00:37:34.491 --> 00:37:40.431 Like first, what, three seasons, it was always Nancy and Jonathan were usually 00:37:40.431 --> 00:37:43.251 hanging out together, figuring whatever they're figuring it out. 00:37:43.591 --> 00:37:48.211 And then it, like, flipped. And then season four is obviously changes that. 00:37:48.811 --> 00:37:51.551 And it's just, like, the dynamics of the different groups that they test out. 00:37:51.651 --> 00:37:53.411 And they're like, okay, this would be a good group for here. 00:37:53.551 --> 00:37:58.271 Yeah. And, like, adding Lucas's sister Erica. Yeah, yeah. In this. 00:37:59.071 --> 00:38:04.311 And the fact that she's, like, you know, helping them spy in season three with 00:38:04.311 --> 00:38:06.131 the going to the ducks and stuff. 00:38:06.671 --> 00:38:09.931 So it's just, like, fun how they, like, come up with, okay, we're going to bring this. 00:38:10.111 --> 00:38:13.031 We're going to do this over here. and like uh 00:38:13.031 --> 00:38:16.471 like in in just like the different because 00:38:16.471 --> 00:38:19.431 that's what somebody said about the first season it's like 00:38:19.431 --> 00:38:23.051 each group is is a different genre 00:38:23.051 --> 00:38:26.331 oh like the kids are a 00:38:26.331 --> 00:38:29.191 like goonies genre okay like a like a 00:38:29.191 --> 00:38:31.831 mystery genre they're they're like there's like 00:38:31.831 --> 00:38:35.171 a horror genre there's like an action there's like a so it's 00:38:35.171 --> 00:38:38.151 just like just a little bit of like a rom-com thing going on 00:38:38.151 --> 00:38:41.231 with jonathan and nancy there's so it's 00:38:41.231 --> 00:38:44.871 like kind of like feels like different genres in the stories and then they come 00:38:44.871 --> 00:38:48.271 they always it's when they come together at the end and they share information 00:38:48.271 --> 00:38:52.931 and talk to each other where they figure stuff out yeah i wish i i wish i remembered 00:38:52.931 --> 00:38:57.111 and actually like had written it down but it's like you know oh that's not what 00:38:57.111 --> 00:38:58.951 this podcast is about man no man, 00:38:59.451 --> 00:39:04.571 it's coming geek about not can we not can we provide not can we talk coherently about yeah, 00:39:05.191 --> 00:39:08.471 certainly not my side. I love the designs of the, 00:39:09.477 --> 00:39:13.377 clothes. No, I'm just kidding. I thought you were going to say the carpet. 00:39:13.537 --> 00:39:15.897 Carpet reminds me of Fifth Element. Yeah. 00:39:16.637 --> 00:39:20.857 At the end there. Yeah, with the rocks. Yeah. With the sandstone. 00:39:21.297 --> 00:39:22.797 Yeah. Episode 4th coming. 00:39:24.057 --> 00:39:27.837 We already did that. Darude. We are Darude boys. 00:39:30.077 --> 00:39:34.037 We. You know, did you now, do you remember? 00:39:34.477 --> 00:39:39.517 Yes. Getting back to Montauk here. Yeah. You remember a couple months ago, 00:39:39.657 --> 00:39:41.357 that little earthquake we felt? Yeah. 00:39:42.197 --> 00:39:47.297 Montauk? Could be. Did it originate in Montauk? Well, they felt the epicenter 00:39:47.297 --> 00:39:49.717 was, I think, Roosevelt Island. 00:39:50.277 --> 00:39:52.837 Under Roosevelt Island. For real? Yeah, something like that. 00:39:52.897 --> 00:39:55.877 I think CERN, jumping back on, 00:39:56.057 --> 00:40:00.077 I think there's a second CERN in where Montauk used to be now. Oh, wow. 00:40:00.617 --> 00:40:05.197 Yeah, think about that. So it's like, you think there's an upside down portal underneath? 00:40:06.097 --> 00:40:14.057 Think? no sir I know yeah I know that's why I feel the concept of parallel universes 00:40:14.057 --> 00:40:16.477 is too neat I get timelines, 00:40:17.397 --> 00:40:22.177 but I guess if you consider a timeline being an alternate universe like a parallel 00:40:22.177 --> 00:40:27.317 I would consider timelines to be alternate universes but then it's like yeah 00:40:27.317 --> 00:40:34.437 wait didn't there's a physicist who said
timeline or time travel is no longer a. 00:40:36.619 --> 00:40:42.659 It's only an issue in terms of engineering. Like he claims that they've figured it all out. 00:40:42.759 --> 00:40:45.759 The only thing they need to figure out is the engineering to build the thing 00:40:45.759 --> 00:40:47.839 to make it do what it needs to do. Wow. 00:40:48.339 --> 00:40:55.019 I forget what, I want to look that up. But some physicist said that. 00:40:55.279 --> 00:40:57.119 So they figured out how to do it. 00:40:57.459 --> 00:41:00.759 Yeah. They just haven't figured out how to do. 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.799 Yeah. How to do it. 00:41:03.839 --> 00:41:09.199 That makes sense. That's probably how most stuff goes. Scoops ahoy. 00:41:10.879 --> 00:41:16.039 Scoops ahoy. Did you, who was I just talking to? Humans have completed the theoretical 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.199 knowledge about time travel. Now it's only an engineering problem. 00:41:20.359 --> 00:41:22.719 Physicist, Mio Kaku. 00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:30.519 We've stopped planning. I'm sorry. Probably sorry. I'm butchering his name. I'll leave it. 00:41:32.219 --> 00:41:35.119 We've finished theorizing about it now we 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.019 just have to make it it sounds 00:41:38.019 --> 00:41:42.699 uh i do that that's it's called procrastination you 00:41:42.699 --> 00:41:45.359 know they say that's a you can travel back in time and you 00:41:45.359 --> 00:41:48.339 can do that yeah oh it gets purple now huh 00:41:48.339 --> 00:41:51.419 that's kind of cool pinkish oh well it's 00:41:51.419 --> 00:41:54.819 purple from where i'm sitting yeah probably oh 00:41:54.819 --> 00:41:57.619 yeah if you had to be chimera'd who'd you 00:41:57.619 --> 00:42:00.499 what would you want to be chimeraed with like other animal yeah yeah 00:42:00.499 --> 00:42:04.199 or like is it animal parts whatever i 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.639 uh i would say i'd probably 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:12.259 want the head of a bear or 00:42:12.259 --> 00:42:23.159 the arms of a bear or the wings of a bear of a bear buffalo wings no delicious 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:28.759 it's like you know maybe a lion's head mm-hmm. 00:42:30.075 --> 00:42:33.695 Is that like the concept is like part of your body? 00:42:34.035 --> 00:42:37.635 I mean, I don't know what else. Like, it's just like if I want to be an upright 00:42:37.635 --> 00:42:44.555 creature, clearly there's not many like, you know, I'm not going to get like the legs of a lion. 00:42:45.015 --> 00:42:48.395 See, I'd get the legs. And it's like weird balance. I'd get the legs of a kangaroo. 00:42:49.015 --> 00:42:52.315 That's a great one. That's great because you can jump farther. 00:42:52.455 --> 00:42:54.115 You can kick people. That's strong. 00:42:54.395 --> 00:42:58.615 That's a really good one. Yeah. Legs of a kangaroo. but I think they're talking 00:42:58.615 --> 00:43:05.035 more about like just full like melding DNA so you tend to have human more human 00:43:05.035 --> 00:43:10.375 characteristics I wouldn't have it wouldn't be like Frankenstein kangaroo legs 00:43:10.375 --> 00:43:12.175 on me I'd have the genetics, 00:43:13.495 --> 00:43:18.435 maybe a little more hairy a little more strength then I'd go eagle. 00:43:20.295 --> 00:43:21.615 For the hair gene? 00:43:22.335 --> 00:43:26.935 For like to be able to fly oh okay or at least the possibility of it, 00:43:28.335 --> 00:43:32.455 what kind of eagle eagle bald eagle i just 00:43:32.455 --> 00:43:38.695 wear a wig i was just wearing a wig you were you were that happened a couple 00:43:38.695 --> 00:43:46.955 episodes ago four episodes five episodes ago time is all relative this it folds 00:43:46.955 --> 00:43:50.315 over if time folds over on itself like a stake em, 00:43:52.435 --> 00:43:59.895 pow so how many strange things out of, 00:44:01.295 --> 00:44:06.655 five nice numerology follow it in boys and gals how many strange things out 00:44:06.655 --> 00:44:08.835 of five do you give stranger things, 00:44:09.455 --> 00:44:14.415 you know I give it four four and a half well four I'll go with four four and 00:44:14.415 --> 00:44:18.415 a half yeah four just four I think that uh. 00:44:20.244 --> 00:44:28.344 I had some issues with the later seasons in terms of, and I don't blame anything. 00:44:28.344 --> 00:44:31.044 I think it's just the story got bigger than they thought it would. 00:44:31.184 --> 00:44:34.684 But like, I didn't, like the Vecna thing I saw coming. 00:44:35.004 --> 00:44:38.404 And then it kind of like, I mean, we're going to see what happens in season five. 00:44:38.544 --> 00:44:44.764 Maybe it takes care of all the, not issues I have, but the harumphs I think about. 00:44:46.164 --> 00:44:50.124 I think it, I just think it's something that started strong. 00:44:50.244 --> 00:44:52.724 And came back to being strong. 00:44:52.964 --> 00:44:57.284 I definitely think the third season is the weakest one. And it might just be 00:44:57.284 --> 00:45:04.364 that for me, that was the first, like that the garbage monster creature, 00:45:05.284 --> 00:45:08.284 you know, the innards, innards monster. 00:45:08.704 --> 00:45:11.744 Maybe it's just like, I don't like that creature. 00:45:12.044 --> 00:45:16.324 You know what I mean? That I didn't feel the same like enviable, 00:45:16.664 --> 00:45:20.044 like, okay, a Demogorgon. That's a cool monster. 00:45:20.244 --> 00:45:23.284 You know a mind flayer shadow monster 00:45:23.284 --> 00:45:26.584 that's cool vekna that's pretty cool 00:45:26.584 --> 00:45:29.644 but like garbage enters 00:45:29.644 --> 00:45:32.584 monster i see that it's like 00:45:32.584 --> 00:45:36.944 it's like it's just kind of like a gross thing they 00:45:36.944 --> 00:45:39.904 i feel like they also made it more like horrific 00:45:39.904 --> 00:45:43.304 which made it more almost like 00:45:43.304 --> 00:45:48.644 overdid it you know i like the feet like it's more like a yeah i don't know
00:45:48.644 --> 00:45:55.144 so but i do think that four redeemed three and brought it way back up just because 00:45:55.144 --> 00:46:00.444 of that they did nail certain stories and stuff and introduced characters that 00:46:00.444 --> 00:46:02.944 became bigger than any you know what i mean. 00:46:04.284 --> 00:46:07.344 Um yeah okay so the 00:46:07.344 --> 00:46:10.224 one thing i forgot to mention before before we wrap because i 00:46:10.224 --> 00:46:13.244 first off i'm giving it five i'm gonna 00:46:13.244 --> 00:46:16.444 give it a five out of five wow score as a 00:46:16.444 --> 00:46:20.264 whole being a story concept and you 00:46:20.264 --> 00:46:22.904 know as far as casting episodes even with a 00:46:22.904 --> 00:46:26.004 weak season which you could say that about anything i love 00:46:26.004 --> 00:46:29.104 the office and i know the last two seasons a lot of people fall off 00:46:29.104 --> 00:46:31.844 and don't love it but like as a whole i think 00:46:31.844 --> 00:46:34.764 it's like if the office is my favorite 00:46:34.764 --> 00:46:38.604 comedy stranger things is probably my favorite like comedy uh 00:46:38.604 --> 00:46:42.604 no like horror gotcha not 00:46:42.604 --> 00:46:46.264 comedy i guess but sci-fi 00:46:46.264 --> 00:46:51.244 series let's say oh okay that's what we geek about on here we do we do we say 00:46:51.244 --> 00:46:55.584 fantasy too but we haven't done any fancy is this not fantasy no this is definitely 00:46:55.584 --> 00:46:59.764 sci-fi what's the difference well fantasy is like dragons we haven't done any 00:46:59.764 --> 00:47:03.944 dragons they've fought a freaking mind slayer That looked like a dragon. 00:47:04.204 --> 00:47:06.804 There's fantasy elements to this. I will give you that. You're right. 00:47:07.024 --> 00:47:14.964 But you know what film inspired their idea for Stranger Things? Super 8. 00:47:15.424 --> 00:47:18.944 It's 2013 Prisoners. 00:47:19.894 --> 00:47:22.674 Do you remember that movie? I love Prisoners. Hugh Jackman. Yeah, 00:47:22.974 --> 00:47:25.294 it's a great movie. Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal, my favorite. 00:47:26.474 --> 00:47:29.474 Paul Dano. Paul Dano. Terrence Howard. 00:47:29.794 --> 00:47:33.074 Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard. 2 plus 2 equals 5. But basically, 00:47:33.094 --> 00:47:37.754 they saw that movie, and they were like, okay, well, what if there was sci-fi elements at work here? 00:47:37.934 --> 00:47:42.554 Like, this kid is missing, and they're blaming people, and they're trying to 00:47:42.554 --> 00:47:44.714 figure out, like, this, like, you know? 00:47:44.714 --> 00:47:51.734 And so that was like the basis for it was like they took that as let's make 00:47:51.734 --> 00:47:53.254 a sci-fi version of this. 00:47:53.334 --> 00:47:58.534 And they had this whole Magic Gathering, all this kind of like lore that they 00:47:58.534 --> 00:48:00.754 obviously fell back on and they've always loved. 00:48:01.594 --> 00:48:05.714 So that's, thank you to the 2013 film Prisoners. 00:48:06.434 --> 00:48:09.714 It's a great film. For giving us Stranger Things. It's Deniz Villeneuve. 00:48:10.254 --> 00:48:12.494 The guy who did The New Dunes. Oh, yeah. 00:48:13.294 --> 00:48:15.814 Deniz Villeneuve. Yeah, yeah. Villeneuve. 00:48:18.014 --> 00:48:21.914 He was upset that no movie had outdone Dune 2. 00:48:22.334 --> 00:48:26.114 He was like, I wish there was bigger movies out that would outdo my... 00:48:26.114 --> 00:48:29.954 And then Inside Out 2 came out and flapped it around. 00:48:30.614 --> 00:48:33.794 Apparently. You got Deadpool Wolverines above it too. 00:48:33.954 --> 00:48:42.474 And I think Kung Fu Panda 4 is also beat it. There's four Kung Fu Pandas? Now there is, yeah. 00:48:43.254 --> 00:48:46.994 All sequels all sequels dang yeah that's 00:48:46.994 --> 00:48:49.874 that's see we're delivering a sequel world i'm just 00:48:49.874 --> 00:48:53.514 a sequel girl living in a sequel world and uh 00:48:53.514 --> 00:48:57.554 i don't think i have any stranger things to talk about do you oh were you asking 00:48:57.554 --> 00:49:03.354 me okay yeah yeah no i'm i mean i do but not not here well sometimes you know 00:49:03.354 --> 00:49:08.894 as a co-host i didn't realize that guest i didn't realize part of this I thought 00:49:08.894 --> 00:49:12.574 I was like a permanent guest or something. You know, we're getting there. 00:49:13.334 --> 00:49:18.454 Well, thank you for joining us. This was Stranger Things. I'm Kyle. That was JJ. 00:49:19.234 --> 00:49:22.734 Yeah, I'm here. Sorry for the clicking. Yeah, rock and roll. 00:49:23.174 --> 00:49:25.514 Geek out, baby. Ah, douche. 00:49:27.414 --> 00:49:31.234 We want to thank our editor, Katie Yoner. Thank you. 00:49:31.574 --> 00:49:35.834 We want to thank our producer, Grace Heerman. Thank you. We want to thank our 00:49:35.834 --> 00:49:38.774 executive producer, Tommy West. 00:49:39.114 --> 00:49:42.934 Thank you. We'd like to thank our head of marketing, Dale Watts. 00:49:43.234 --> 00:49:46.074 Thank you. Our video editor, Kyle Bosch. 00:49:46.834 --> 00:49:53.494 Has been relieved. Thank you, me. Can We Geek About is a production of Gotham West Studios.
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