Full Transcript for Extra Innings! A Spiritual Experience w/ Coach BT

me a day because at the same time I'm like, I'm out there with family. My son is 14. I mean, he knows about Jay Z. He knows about this and I'm all about moments. And I'm like, man, this would be a moment if I can bring him with me. We ain't doing all of the little young, his crowd. I said, man, now you need to get a glimpse of this because this might be to do last show. Rome: ⁓ BT: So when I asked him, he kind of looked at me and was like, yeah, I go. And my wife was just like, you know, just go enjoy yourself. Don't worry about him. You know, he'll be all right. I want you to go enjoy yourself. So I called my sister back and I said, all right, let me grab the ticket. So I'm already kind of getting geeked up. And so I'm all over the place. ⁓ The biggest thing that I was trying to worry about was how I was going to get down there. And I know The little traffic we have in St. Louis is nothing compared to the traffic that you got to deal with in New York City. know, ⁓ just, just in the Bronx alone, it's like 2.4 million people. And I think St. Louis is, I mean, it's probably St. Louis has a dying population where it's like almost 200,000 people. So 2 million people versus 200,000. I'm like, man, I don't know if I want to be in this. And so, ⁓ You know, we kind of made some arrangements and they were like, no, we're going to drop you off and it's a straight shot. Boom. You're going to get right off at the stadium. When you get down there, just go right in. You'd be smooth. So jumped on the train and during this time I'm kind of geeking up because again, I'm taking in everything went by myself, trying to take in all of the ambiance of just the sound of the train, you know, people watching, seeing everything. So man, when I hopped off that train, And I saw the amount of people lining up to get in. Now, I don't know if you saw the reports, but the reports say get down there at five. I think we say we were going to link up probably around six o'clock, six thirties. And when, when, when I hit you, you were already in the merge line. So man, shout out to you, man. That was a blessing that you was able to kind of hold me down on that note because I'm like, dude, I don't know if I'm going be able to, to do this, to do this, to do this. And, ⁓ Rome: Yeah. Yeah. BT: So I get down there about seven and I ended the building at about seven 15, seven 18, ⁓ got right in, got right to the business. And I was like, ⁓ look, I'm not around her. Be about to play around, got right in the venue and ⁓ man, it's just live man. Just seeing the whole New York swag, but it was people that are from somewhere everywhere. I know you saw people from, the, from Detroit. So a lot of people from Philly. Saw a lot of people and then even just looking at my timeline, man, there was so many St. Louis people there, you know, and I didn't even know that Tony was there and some of the other folks were there. And I'm just like, man, people were making this an event. So ⁓ I was just happy to

just be in the place, man. I don't care what my seat was. I don't even think I made it to my seat at all that night, but I was just happy just to be in the building. Rome: There was not a bad seat in the house. Start there first. Whatever it would have cost, you would have have regret. And I get that, I am very pompous when it comes to my seats. Me and my wife go to a bunch of events. That's the only regret I had from this trip that I didn't take my beautiful wife. I am gonna rectify that here soon. But. BT: Mmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: So my experience was I'm also there alone. Me and my cousins had went, Dio, DZ, everybody know DZ, everybody know Merck, my podcast host, ⁓ partners, and they both had to go back. you know, it sucked, you know what saying? That's one of the kind of the benefits in our position that we work for schools, that school's out, nothing's going on, cool. ⁓ So yeah, like you said, I just didn't want to risk it because I'm dolo. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: I don't really kind of know where I'm going, but I just picked up on the signs like, ⁓ she wearing a Jay-Z concert. She looked like she from New York. He looked like they from New York. They all going in the train right there. ⁓ I'm going to the right place, right? They, I know it. You know what saying? They got on the merch already. ⁓ So I got there and literally I was trying to get the price of the cheapest, the ticket at the cheapest price. know, I ain't know for y'all pocket watches out here. I ain't gonna say no number. BT: Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Rome: but I got it cheaper than it was in the line when I was on the way down there. I'll just say that. I'm literally in the line to get through there and I'm checking out with my card to get the ticket. You know I'm saying? So ⁓ yeah. So. BT: Mm-hmm. Smart man, smart man. Cause that's what a lot of folks would do. You know, just kind of wait, wait. Cause accidents may happen. Some folks might not even, cause that's kind of like the situation that I was in. She couldn't, she couldn't get rid of her ticket and somebody canceled. And probably that was probably your situation. You grabbed a ticket of somebody canceling. Rome: Or like you said, them bots, they have no intention of going, I'm at the baddest ticket right now, because it's 350 and I'm gonna make a profit on it. That's the world we live in, and the shoes, anything that's a high-profile commodity, then people own it. So we get in there, right? We get waters, we have a couple of drinks, whatever, we chilling, you know what I'm saying? Eat, whatever. And then, as it's building up, I know, BT: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: cause I was there the night before that he started at 9-11 night before. So we go to our seats and stuff and we sitting there, right? That's we started getting worried. Cause the DJ playing ain't no opener. Ain't no opener to come out. Cause they ain't how to set the show is. ⁓ And I think you agree with this. They play the Coolio song once. When they ran that boy back twice. ⁓ man. That's when I started to get worried. Like, ⁓ no, ⁓ no, don't do this. Don't do this. BT: ⁓ yeah. match. Yeah, nah. Yeah. Rome: So then, know, I'm online and stuff, I'm checking online, like, it's 20,000 people still outside that couldn't get in, because they didn't follow the rules, they told them, get here early. ⁓ Didn't get here early, so push come to shove, we in there, six, seven o'clock, show don't start till midnight. BT: All Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: people groggy, had a dude next to me sleeping, all type of stuff going on. So we get to midnight and I'm at the chair, I'm at my chair and I look, you this seat open, this seat open. I'm straight, I'm in there like, ⁓ this is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. So I'm sorry to those people. I'm glad, I really, really... ⁓ BT: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Rome: I don't even know what to say. Like, I'm sorry that y'all missed that part of the show if you was stuck outside, but that's the cost of doing business for me. Like, I had to have it. You know what I'm saying? BT: Meh. Yeah, yeah. No, so even just going back to your point with just with just the venue is like ⁓ so that stadium Yankee Stadium, you know they they read they rebuilt the Yankee Stadium. So this stadium is the second Yankee Stadium. So and the way that they the way that they they created it, they tried to make it out of a model of the old Yankee Stadium. So it's all new material. But if you look at. the way and then we talked about this, I think when we were down there to where it's not a bad seat as opposed to seats kind of spreading out this way, the baseball stadiums kind of go up and it's like a hitters part. So it's made up like this based on baseball. You know, I think that that right field line was the was the was like the Bay roof side. So it was kind of like they made that shorter. So when they say this, the house that they built, Rome: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. BT: they tried to create it and make it in the same fashion that the old stadium was in. So when you get up in there and I think where we were at was on that, that right baseline, it's like, it's not a bad seat. Cause that was one thing that I was worried about. like, well, you know, I didn't even make it down to my seat. You know, I stood up where we were at standing up and I'm like, I'm good because long as nobody stands up over me, we kind of, you know, we in a good space. And so, ⁓ I got next to tone and you know, shout out to tone. Tone is in the handicapped spot and we rapping, but he moved closer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, man, do you, you know, you went down there with the, with the wheelchair and the, and the leg thing. So he left this whole account. Uh, open and I have my look, my guy next to me and we vibed all night. I'm like, dude, I'm chilling right here. I don't need to go down there because if I want to stand up and dance, I can stand up and dance. Rome: Tona Trooper, Tona Trooper. Mm-hmm. way. BT: If I want to look at the screen and look at things,

I'm good. I don't need to climb over folks. If I want to run to the bathroom, I just turn right around, run, come right back. Man, so it was, it was, was a perfect type of situation. ⁓ you know, I started, I did get worried waiting. Like you said, the, the, ⁓ the, the gangsta's paradise played twice and I'm like, man, so that's a playlist. Okay. Now somebody, nobody's checking on the playlist. Rome: Yeah, yeah, get some water, whatever. BT: ⁓ some little gals next to me when they played, ⁓ they played juvenile back that thing up, they got hot. They like, man, ain't nobody's in the damn twerk up in here right now, but little do you know, all them aunties, they couldn't resist they self. They started hands on the knees. And so that kind of livened things up a little bit, you know, ⁓ but my biggest thing was that I was worrying about my phone overheating. I was worrying about, you know, I had my glasses. had my phone trying to take pictures and stuff. And I'm like, man, if I start doing this a little bit too early, I might not, I might not make it home, you know, cause I ain't come with a charger. ⁓ they usually sell those things in the stadium, the little battery packs, but they were all sold out. But, ⁓ I heard the sirens. So when I heard the sirens, I'm like, man, that's kind of odd to hear sirens down at the, at the baseball game right now. So I checked Twitter, started going on social media threads and That's when they started saying 20,000 people hadn't even made it in yet. Rome: And credit, before we get into the show, credit to Hov, because he did the right thing. He said he wanted to make sure, because listen, if they canceled that show, it was gonna be a riot, flat out. And I wasn't moving out of their seat till they settled all that outside. I ain't got nowhere to be. I would've stood right there in that seat all night if I had to, if they would've canceled that show. But they didn't. BT: ⁓ without a doubt, without a doubt. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, and it was going to be impossible to counsel that. got 50,000 people in the stadium. You got to know that NYPD is, they are centered around that place to make sure that that thing is safe. Yeah. You know, yeah. Rome: ⁓ it would have been a night of day life. ⁓ word? Just what y'all wanna do? Let's get to it then. Right down here. We about to show y'all real quick. So then, midnight hit. BT: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Mm hmm. Rome: Intro, dynasty, one of the best intros of all time. The beat, the buildup, then here he come. And then just rapping, rapping, rapping, rapping. Like it's just Hov and the mic and the stage. He got lights and stuff like that. We'll get into some of the other stuff, but it's not, you know, there's no dancers on the stage. There's none of that. Whoever's on the stage is performing. You know what saying? The band was amazing. They playing live. BT: Mm-hmm. right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Rome: There's no voiceover track for Hov. Hov doing all this, his vocal all night. So

we get intro, we get Brooklyn's finest. And I think we're just build up like hit a crescendo like, okay, we here now is where I'm from came on. Man, man, banger. BT: Mm-hmm. Right. Rome: Banger like it I made a whole playlist and I didn't listen to that consecutive of how well these tracks connected I think that's the biggest thing I took away from it their production of it Sound better than the album because all these tracks connect so well one at the other and they all bangers There's no you know, there's no ghetto techno and nothing like that going on. You know I'm saying you get all the hits ⁓ So up into that point where you're at, where are you at in the show? BT: Thank you. and Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So just to even just to take it back to where, you know, I pay attention to kind of like all of this stuff, you know, I'm a super duper nerd when it comes to just, you know, ⁓ sounds and just being particular when when you think about ⁓ performance, because even when we go back to like basketball, always view basketball as like a performing art, you know, you are out there to entertain you out there to to perform and. ⁓ once you start looking at the production value of the things that you do, I think a lot of times people don't take their production of their show serious when, especially when it comes to a rap show, you know, we all used to see in the rap shows when you bring the whole neighborhood on the stage and you bring in everybody out there, you don't even know who's the, who show this is, you know I'm saying? So to see that at that level, again, when I look at Rock Nation, mean, technically that's like the music industry. they're getting the best of the best of the best. So sound check A plus presentation, the way everything is set up A plus lighting A plus ⁓ arrangements with people in the back with the band and the way that the screen is set up A plus. So once all of that started, I'm looking at all of that. And like you said, once the lights drop and he come out, mean, man. crispy microphone, man. just like I pay attention to that type of stuff, JD, where I'm like, dude, exactly what you just said. It's like for somebody to be like right here in a pocket all night long, he probably, and think about it, he did three shows. The man probably didn't lose his voice because he don't have to yell and scream. He right here in the pocket with the lyrics. So he didn't did four hours right here. Voice control is it. Rome: You can't miss it. BT: He ain't got to get too loud and it's coming across so crispy across the stadium. Now the sound that came through there, it was like we was at the club. You know what saying? Boom, boom, boom. Just so, so the way that ⁓ the way that the beat drops when, when the dynasty intro came on, like I said, A plus man, way to open up the show. When we got, when we got into ⁓ where I'm from and the beat drop, I'm just looking at, you know, Rome: Bang. Bang. BT: the vibes of the, you know, Brooklyn in the house, know, Bronx is in the house, know, so everybody basically giving up to where they from. And like I said, my partner next to me, this dude was 25 years old, JD knew every lyric. I'm talking about every lyric. And I'm just like, ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah. This is a real fan right here. Right. I said, man, come on. Rome: He was raised right. He was raised right. There's, there's, there's a man in his life that put him on the right track. BT: man. So like I said, eight plus with the production of a caliber of person like that to pay attention because you got to think nowadays, ⁓ a lot of artists, if you got a budget for your production, a lot of them do is putting their budget in their pocket and they, they going to sing over a track. They going to play the song and I'm going to put the microphone out for y'all to sing. You know, nah, he was right here all night, all night. Rome: Listen, so just a little background with me. I've seen Beyonce when she came to St. Louis, think that was, that was Cowboy Carter. No, was, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was Cowboy Carter. Me and my daughter went. And listen, talk about a performer and rocking the house. He ain't got to go far to have to raise his level at all. He just got to turn over in the big, cause she ain't a, she's a. BT: The Renaissance, the cowboy quarter show, okay. . Mm-hmm. Rome: monster, monster performer. You hear me? ⁓ So then we get dirt up your shoulders. Banger. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: I didn't expect this. He blended dirt off your shoulders into I Know and I lost my mind. Cause we discussed a little bit of that before and we gone had a bigger Jay-Z conversation with Tone because we already playing that. But American Gangsta is my most underrated Jay-Z album. It means a lot to me cause of the place I was in in my life. So I Know hit me different. I'm like, ⁓ yeah, let's get to it. ⁓ I Know. BT: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: into You Don't Know, which I've seen now at this point, back to back nights hit the same way. And that's just a, that's one of his, you know, he got so much heat, man. He got, it was hard to say top 15 and then I make a list and I was like, nah, that didn't make it. But it's, it's A plus. You Don't Know is an A plus song. And then Can't Knock the Hustle. So then we get our first guest star, right? And I'm throwing back to you at this point, we get our first guest star, Tiana Taylor. BT: You Right. Rome: and you couldn't quite hear her. had problems with the microphone, so she just kinda had to do her thing, but she was looking A plus as well, as usual. ⁓ At this point, where are you at at the show? BT: So once they got to the, to the, the came not to hustle, I believed it. So did Beyonce do came not to hustle on night one for the, for the, for reasonable doubt. Okay. So Tiana, she wasn't topping Beyonce's performance. So I questioned, I questioned him coming back out with that, even till they get to their part, you know, a shout out to the OG Mary J. Blige for being on the actual track. I think they said she

had a ⁓ Vegas ⁓ residency. Rome: Yes. BT: So she, you know, she was doing her show. So she wasn't able to come out and, you know, man, bless her heart, man. Tiana Taylor, man, I like her image, man. I like, I like her dance and I like all of that. But just to have her come out to do a, ⁓ like you the backup to the backup to the backup. And when Beyonce killed it, it was kind of hard to be like, ⁓ that performance even like in the end, even with the microphone situation, with the earpiece situation was kind of like, okay, I get it for that moment. Cause she's a New York girl. I would have just much rather either had, you know, either Beyonce come back out for that or him just blending something else in with that. Even just probably playing the original, ⁓ just, you know, having that little bass line to do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, Like I said, shout out to Tiana Taylor, man. She, you know, bless her heart. I would have just probably passed on that. But again, it's a vibe. I'm not tripping off none of that. I'm just like, let's go. We on the road now. You know what I'm saying? So. Rome: Yeah. And it just wasn't fair to her because her sound literally didn't, you couldn't hear her. BT: Right, right, right. So yeah. So I mean, ain't no not to her. Like I said, it's nice that she came again. Hometown girl, she had her moment, but it was just kind of unfair to have Beyonce do it without, know, if you didn't have Mary J, you had Beyonce do it on Friday and then had her coming out. It's kind of like you kind of lined her up a little bit, but you know, it, but it worked out. Yeah. Rome: I get it, I get it. ⁓ After that, we go into Money 8 Thing with JD. And I'm pause again right there. Banger, like just timeless, know, everything about that song is timeless, it's gonna last forever. JD was amazing, he was rapping, rapping too. No voiceover, nobody on the stage had a voiceover. Everybody had to go out there and match Dawg. BT: All right, OK. Rome: And you know, JD out rapper rapper. So he ain't gonna be on a level, but he held his own. Then this is when my soul left my body to go up and get transformed and come back down because the snowman came out. And if anybody know me and where I'm from and why I feel these two guys on the stage together, I could miss. BT: Mm-hmm. you Right. Yeah. OK. Rome: So a short story, I wasn't supposed to stay for night three either, right? We only at that time only bought tickets for show two. And, you know, I'm debating with my wife. My wife is telling me like, she is supportive of the whole way. Go ahead, stay, we're fine. I can adjust. I, you know, we got, I got kids and stuff. You know what I'm saying? got certain stuff I'm supposed to do. And when we seen that he had canceled his Vegas residency, I said yes. BT: Mm-hmm. Right, yeah, yeah, man, yeah. Rome: I gotta do it, whatever I got it. Like you said, at this point, when they said that, I'm down to sell the plasma, the sperm, whatever, bone, pinky

toe, it's worth it. And if you told me I had to lose a pinky toe to see Jay-Z and G-Z perform scene at all and go crazy back to back, the pinky toe is gone. That's what I'm telling y'all the world right now. It would have been gone. BT: Mm-hmm. You gotta make it happen. Mm-hmm. Rome: I wouldn't have missed it. I wouldn't have regretted it. I had a limp, everything, right? Killed it. Like they absolutely killed it. They going back, man, it just ridiculous. BT: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, nah, nah. Rome: Two more and then I thought, two more and I, I wanna make sure I let you encapsulate all that both. Olajo Vito, underrated because that is a performance song. That is a loud speakers and a great move song. If you just ride around in the car maybe, it might not be, for me it is, but for most people it's probably not. It's not, Kosta is one of his best songs in the overall scheme of things, but. BT: Good. Rome: in that stadium in New York City, in the Bronx, took the roof off. People yelling at the top of their lungs, ⁓ like, ⁓ Hoverito, and I'm one of them. So then we get into, that's when Heart of the City, Heart of the City starts. And I look up and I knew, I seen it the night before, but again, he has a helicopter with the spotlight shining down on the crowd and flying around. BT: Mm-hmm. That was dope. That was dope. Yeah. Rome: Then... Usher hits the stage. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: I have never in my life heard that many women make the sound that I heard those women make that night. In unison, when they see Usher hit that stage, they lost it. They absolutely, I'm like, ⁓ my, what? Really? And we had no inkling that he was gonna be there. Like picture that leaked about Rihanna being there. So I'm like, yeah, maybe. The cheesy thing. Nobody knew about Usher. BT: ⁓ man. Mm-hmm. Rome: and those ladies went bananas. ⁓ He did Heart of the City, Usher sung the hook on Heart of the City, and then he did the hook on part two on the run. BT: Thank Mm-hmm. Rome: Where are you at now in the show? BT: Well, I want to go back to just basically that beginning part. So the, I like that when I look back at it ⁓ and shout out to you, man, you sent me the playlist, man. And we rocked that month, man, 15 hours on the way back home last night. Cause ⁓ my agenda man was still just like I say, we're still going. So I like to say that that part was like the beginning of him kind of like ⁓ basically ⁓ throwing a lob up there to the culture, you know. Rome: Yeah. BT: He kind of went around and not just saying the culture of but just the fabric of hip hop when you go down south, all right, you go snatch up the down south artists, boom, then you come back with some like I like to call it a little like Latin flavor with the whole veto. So going back to the JD part, it's a funny story when they talk about when ⁓ he recorded that song, right? He hit up Jermaine Dupri and he flew down to Atlanta when he recorded it. you know, JD was trying to make him, uh, basically was going to chop the, the, the, the song up like how a premier would do it and, and, and put that on the track. And Jay-Z was like, nah, I'm a say it. I'm not going now. We heard in the moment, like, like we doing everything from scratch. We're not bringing other elements in. We mean you about to vibe and cook this up, you know? So now I'm saying what you want me to say. ⁓ so knowing that story and then seeing that come to life on that stage was kind of dope because I'm like, man, these dudes actually were in the studio recording this song. This ain't like how nowadays I'm gonna send you a track. You send that track back to me is no. So this is was an example of timeless music. You know what I mean? So Rome: Well, let's stop right there because that is an excellent point you just brought up. That is a missed part in music in general, that guys are not in the studio at the same time making tracks. We're missing elements of what this is supposed to be. We hear about the old stories of the greatest hip hop and rap, and these guys are in the studio feeding energy off of each other. Big going in there and he do his verse, Jay-Z do his. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: Big like, hold on, dawg, let me, hold on, let me. And you hear those stories all the time about all type of artists. You know what saying? Not just Jay-Z, not just in that situation. But that's lost now because everything is send me the beat, I'ma go to my studio, record it, and then send it back. There's no energy in that. BT: Yeah. Because I mean, but think about that and think about what we call timeless music. You know what I mean? Let's just say we're the studio, me and you're in the studio together and while this is recording, let's just say I dropped something on the floor and the recording picked that up. We having fun in the studio. That's gonna be portrayed out when people hear it. So if we're having fun making this, how do you think that people are going to feel when they listening to this? They're going to have some fun. You know what mean? So again, that's the timeless, that's the timeless music. So I was happy to see that. And it also put a lot of debate that they had a falling out. I don't know if you've been following the whole thing with, with, uh, with the NFL that, you know, it was rumors that said that JD was supposed to get the NFL contract before he did. So if he looked at this, it was like, man, that was dirty that you took the Rome: It's gonna translate. BT: NFL thing from me, I wouldn't have showed up to this, but it put to, it put to rest that these dudes can still coexist. So that was the culture part of the beginning of the culture part when it's like, okay, let me go down south, get JD. Boom, we got JD coming. Now let me come with, with, with Jeezy. And when, like what you said, man, I was about to fall out my seat when you said you left your body. And Usher was out there. I was going to say, hold on, on, JD. This is the wrong podcast for that, I thought you were going say, right, yeah, with

Jesus, we got to make sure everybody know he wasn't talking about Usher. He didn't leave his body when Usher came out. He left his body when Jeezy came out. So, dude, man. Rome: No, no, no, jeezy. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was scared. I was scared when Usher came out. The sounds they was making, it was like Jurassic Park or something like. BT: I was cool though, Usher, man. I ain't gonna even fret, man. But going back to the GZ, right, so this is what I was thinking, And I kind of brought this up, I think I posted some after it was over with, man. For folks that don't understand, right, I'm gonna say like, this had to be, and correct me if I'm wrong, this gotta be like 2005, 2004-ish, man. Rome: Hellas. BT: I remember man being in the plush. I remember being in club casino on the East side when BMF would come through the clubs, man. The energy that was in there was like when folks say you got to whisper folks names in St. Louis, man, at the plush and being in the atmosphere when BMF was at the heyday, you had to whisper because you did not know who was around with these dudes, but just the energy and the aura that them dudes brought. to see a Jeezy come from where he was, man, you got to think, man, that snowman, that whole snowman run, it took the world by storm. You know what I'm saying? to get, yeah, so it's like, that took everything by storm. And so if you was outside during that time period, you felt it. And so when he came out and he had the snowman jersey on and he came out and... Rome: They banned them. mean, they can't ban the snowmen. BT: You know, were upset. I had a couple of my partners out in Vegas, 80 cans at the show and people kind of mad and upset. But to know what this is going to do for it. Yeah, but the know what this is going to do for him and his career. He out of here. He do a favor like this, man, whatever he would have made or he can make that up to the fans like I and I'm pretty sure he's going to make that up to him. But to have a moment like this when somebody like that calls, it's a no brainer. So man, Rome: Cost of doing business. BT: I was, I wanted to hear, ⁓ as real as it gets. I wanted him to just pull that one out his hat, man. If he would have did that, I saw him perform that one on the blueprint three tour. So I was, I was lucky enough to see them perform that, but I was waiting on that man. But the energy that, ⁓ that they both had the chemistry on that stage and you heard the lyrics, man, at one point, man, I just, I just did this record, closed my eyes, man, and just vibe because again, he was like this the whole night he was in his pocket. He ain't, you know what saying? Exactly how he felt in the studio that night, he was right here with it. So I'm like, man, and like what you said, man, I had a dude, it was a grown man in front of me. Man, the dude damn near hit a cartwheel, was slamming a chair down, was going into some convulsions, man. I gave this dude like five handshakes back to back to back when he came out with that one, boy. So man, that was super dope. So that was one of the moments, man. What do we have after this? The whole veto. No, no, no. Let me get back to the last, the whole veto. ⁓ My big takeaway from that is ⁓ that right there, was a, that was a, ⁓ that was a New York song. That was for the New York, the Puerto Rican day parade. That was for the folks in there because you say it's underrated, man. That's one of that, that, that when we talk about album textures, that gave the blueprint a different type of texture to it. Cause it gave it. Rome: So I had to usher. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yup, yup, yup. BT: like an international feel like, you know what saying? Like parade music, you know, you got to think, man, we just got the Knicks that just won the championship, man. And that it ain't no color. Like it ain't a black, it ain't a black or white thing. It ain't a Hispanic man. That was a New York thing. So when we talk about the flavor of New York is like, ⁓ put it down for my people. Like, come on, man. That that's everybody. So that I think that Rome: I'm with you. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yep. Everybody. BT: that was a, like I said, that was the beginning of the culture type. Look, I'm going to do it for the South, but I'm also doing it for my people. So I think that part of the show was kind of bridging the gap. was bringing people together now. So it was saying, right, y'all, y'all can come a little closer, come a little closer now. You know, everybody ain't got to be spread out, come a little closer. So, so yeah, so now that, that was kind of fly how they did though. Rome: ⁓ So then we get into Never Change. Banger, banger, banger, banger. Y'all know that song. We ain't gotta go too much. I mean, song cry right behind that. Banger, banger, ⁓ Izzo, Beach is Better, F with Me, You Know I Got It, Jigga What, Jigga Who, The Originator 99. Then we get to our next co-star, come on. No Church in the Wild. The dream. Great song, great. ⁓ Hov doing his thing, great. ⁓ We got a click after that. And then at that point, that's what my Kanye hopes got up to the highest level. My Kanye hopes get up to the highest level. ⁓ I don't think that's ever gonna happen again because of the stuff that Kanye, and I couldn't forgive him either. The stuff that Kanye has said about that man's children, no sir, no sir, bro, you're dead to me. But I was hopeful, I'm not in that. ⁓ So then this is when I'm like, ⁓ my God. And I took a video of it, I posted on my social media, my... instant reaction to Run This Town coming on and Rihanna hitting the stage. And that was by far the loudest ovation in there, by far of everybody. So she does Run This Town, she does Be Better Have My Money. I have never listened to that song in that way before. Now it's in my playlist now. I get it, I get it. ⁓ BT: Well, for sure. Mm hmm. Yeah. Rome: My wife, she looked at me like I had three heads when I said like, yeah, man, like that was big. And she like, huh?

But you didn't know? Like she going, I'm like, why would I know that? BT: Yeah, JD man. Yeah, JD man. You trippin' man. That right there was, come on man, when she did that one, it was kind of like a, so that whole vibe was one of them type of deals where she just, it came out of nowhere, but here's the thing with Rihanna's career though, man. It's kind of like when you follow a artist, right? ⁓ And it just, Rome: But hey. Oooooh! BT: It's like when I pay attention to the music business, like the for real, for real artists, not the people that's just like using music as a hustle, the artists, right? Artists, right? And you only going to get a few of those. These are the people that keep the lights on for the label. You know what mean? So when I look at the artists, like for Rihanna to come where she came from, she was a pop star when she first came out. So to go through the transitions of being a bubblegum pop star, Rome: Artist. Yeah. BT: to she's making the transition to, I like to call it her heel arc. She has to let everybody know like, nah, this ain't no for show. So this is her heel arc to where, nah, I'm not the, I know y'all want me to be this, but I get high. I go to parties, I smoke weed, I cuss and I'm like, so this is my middle finger to everybody who wants to keep me in this pop category. Rome: wrestling reference for everybody out there. Hmm? BT: I'm over her with it. Now I'm still going to do this. But when we talk about the artistry of her, for her to be able to come out with that song and it was a, it was a ⁓ banger when it came out, but it was like the good girl gone bad reference that worked. That's why people appreciate her because she's not trying to be squeaky clean. You know what I'm saying? She's not trying to be, that's why people rock with her. You know what mean? And that's what I said on mine. I'm like, look, my old lady knows. Rome: Real as it gets. BT: She like, look, we gonna give high fives to each other when we talk about her because that's not the first time. Rihanna been flirting with me since back in the day, They know this. I've been trying to tell this gal for the longest, man. I'm married, man. I got a whole family leading me along, but we've been through this, but that's what it is though. Rome: Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Man. Yeah. BT: to see her do that. And we own the 10, this is like 10 years since she dropped her last album. So she got a 10 year anniversary of what is an anti. So it's been 10 years. You can tell she's like, didn't, I didn't made my money in the music industry. I'm not coming outside now. Yeah, I'm not coming outside for this. Rome: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ she said it on stage. She said, she said, y'all gotta excuse me a little rusty. I'm like, I don't, I don't, I can't tell. BT: Yes, but it's the energy and you can tell she was having fun doing it because she was singing that song with a chest, man. Like, I miss doing this. You know what saying? So that for me, that was my bucket list. Yeah. Rome: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. This might get them another album. This might get them another album. BT: But do we need one though? I don't think we really need one. I think it's just like the same with it, like a Jay Z run, man. We, you know, we, we have to be a lot of times, man, just be happy with where people are with, you know, if you was a, just like with this, Jay, if you was a billionaire, man, if somebody told you that you didn't have to work no more, would you work? Rome: That's the thing, here's the problem though. So the equivalency is if you're a billionaire and somebody told you, BT, stop hooping, stop coaching, right? Like now, yeah. But you're an artist at that. Coaches in a way are artists. She's an artist. And look, she is a billionaire off the Fenty and she's doing great. And like you said, she just look like she. BT: The love, I know what you're saying, the love of it is gonna keep you coming back. True. ⁓ Rome: with her kids, her husband, living her life, great. But this energy might spark some energy. Yeah, yeah. BT: there. might spark some, yeah, yeah. And, and, and, and, but those are the things that you look for is kind of like, what was next? What's the rollout next? You know what saying? Like the greats back in the day, they would have, they would have had a studio in the back. So it would have been a folks recording an album soon as the concert over with, come lay a verse, come lay a verse, come lay a verse. Then when the great, you know, that's how a lot of the greats used to put it together like that. It was like one big long party, you know. Rome: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Well, and look. And I want to touch on this real quick, because we're get to the second half in a second. That quite might well have been the plan. ⁓ I don't know how long this show was supposed to go. You feel what I'm saying? Like, if they started on time at nine o'clock, I think we'd get a lot more. I think we would have got a lot more from the people that's there, because Fat Joe and Jadakiss only did one track. GZ didn't do, GZ might have did, they might have did it real as it gets. BT: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. All Rome: I don't know what we missed out on dog. Like it might've been like that, like that. So you bring up a great point and I think the circumstances around the time in took some of that away from us. That's what I believe. ⁓ So we get, turn over to the second half. We had dead presidents. I thought Nas might come out again. He didn't, cool. ⁓ Still banger. Can I live? might be his best track of all time, I don't know. It's all perspective from everybody, overall, Can I Live might be the number one. Then we get Girls, Girls, Girls, 03, Bonnie and Clyde. Beyonce still has not came out yet, right? Then we get into 99 Problems. Now the helicopter's back. And you know, the helicopter's on him now. The helicopter was on Heart of the City before, was kind of on the crowd moving around. When he doing 99 Problems on him, because you know, that's kind of what the track

is about. Next we get Rough Rider's anthem, makes with Welcome to the Jungle. We get a little sneak peek of Soul Pauld. He didn't do the whole thing, I thought he was. At that point, Swiss Beats is on stage. Killing it, killing it. ⁓ Jigga Ma, Swiss beats on that one, then on to the next, Swiss beats on that one. Where you at now? BT: So, so just to go back up with with the dead presidents and the cannot live, I like that he kind of let the track breathe a little bit on cannot live. And for folks who don't know, that's an Isaac Hayes track that brought that that was that was like the continuation of that song. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So now you're starting to get into the vibe of it, right? So now. Rome: Mm-hmm. BT: once you let Ned breathe a little bit, you know, and I'm with you on that, man. Can I live? It's just like, it's like one of them time capsule tracks, man, because he rapping about a time and a place where he at and it's like, dude, ⁓ man, yeah. So feeling that one, to transition over to the the girls, girls, girls and the Bonnie and Clyde and the 99 problems, it goes back to again, when I was talking about even the production aspect of it. to have that helicopter out there. So again, a lot of this stuff is ⁓ metaphorically, ⁓ it's telling a story. So what do I mean by that? When I see the helicopter in the ghetto bird, it's like a car chase. It's like we're looking for criminals and who's the criminal? Who's the number one public enemy number one? ⁓ it's Jay-Z. ⁓ not only that. ⁓ you know what? Rome: Hmm? Hmm? BT: The crowd, even though y'all supporting this, y'all are criminals too. So let me pan over her to this section and that section jumping. And let me pan over her to this section and that section jumping. Then we gonna put it right back on him and seeing all of that, again, that's that production value. Some of the youngsters, they not putting their money into telling the story like into that. It's levels to this. Rome: levels. BT: You know, we, got, we, not only you listening to this man spit these boys, not only we listen to this vibe of all of this, this, this timeless music, but he's telling the story even with what's going on behind him. You know, if you watch the movies that was playing behind them, all the young Jay-Z's, the young, so he's even showing the movie part is like, okay, he got something for everybody. It is like, this is like a This like a smorgasbord. This is like all you can eat buffet. Whoever up in there, whatever you want to vibe off of, man, you can vibe off of this. You can vibe off of that. So ⁓ I'm just at that moment again, I'm just, I'm into it. I like the fact that he, he, he sung the, the dead presidents one. He did the, he did the one and was just, yeah. But the one that led into the cannot live was just kind of like one of them. Rome: Mm-hmm. He did both. BT: Like man, like this dude straight spitting them balls, man. You know, and again, he back right here. He ain't, he ain't doing this. He right here, you know, so, ⁓ so yeah. So with that, the 99 problems, all of that was, was a smash. The, the thing was Swiss. Now when we get to Swiss, now I don't know if they just so tight and so close to where Swiss is an engineer. He's a, he's a production master himself. Rome: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. BT: I would, can't wait to hear these stories that come up. I don't think they rehearsed. I just, saw, I saw the way that they were vibing and like kind of what you was just saying on a lot of the Kanye tracks that he had with him. He was kind of like, I'm to do my track. And then he like this, no, go to the next song. I'm going do my part. Go to the next song. So I think during that time him and Swiss didn't really communicate on, cause I think was it a, so we got Jigga. We got so appalled, you know, he only did a portion of that, but you know, and again, all of these were Swiss. Welcome to the jungle. That's supposed to be him and Kanye going verse for verse back and forth. He did a verse and then he like, no, no, no, no, no, go to the next one. He did a verse. Let's go to the, I don't know if you peeped it. Did you peep that? Okay. So I don't think they rehearse on, I don't think they rehearsed. Rome: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, you know, that was, yeah, I mean, listen, could I wanna get to the point of, he said something profound, but like you said, Swizz not a rapper. So I'm judging him on a scale myself. I thought he did a great job. Now I would be remiss. when the Rough Riders anthem came on, that I just not wish that DMX was gonna drop from the sky and perform and then go back up. You know I'm saying? Like, hey man, like, damn, damn dog, like dog supposed to be there. Dog was supposed to be there, bruh. Like if he was there, ⁓ my God. ⁓ my God. Like, you know I'm saying? So gotta have Swiss involved because you don't have X there. BT: Yeah. Rome: So at the Swiss, we get into ain't no, go. BT: But not, but not hold on, but on to the next one, onto the next one. Had that whole man, that whole place was rocking when, when onto the next came on, man. Like that's when I was told, but that's when I was looking at the crowd. Like when he panned it to the crowd, that whole section was like on, on, on a queue of man, that mud was about to explode. But go ahead, go ahead. Rome: What? No, no, no, go wherever you, we going extra innings ourself. Whatever you got to say, go as long as you got to. BT: No, but not, but not, but not, but that's what, that's what I was getting. I was just like, man, on to the next one was like the way they made that, you know, where you say, ⁓ they want my old stuff by my old album. Then it's just like, it was a whole vibe that everybody was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And so it was like, come on, man, that whole place had a million ways to get it. Rome: Hahaha, yeah. I don't get dropped, I dropped the label. BT: But man, that whole

place was just rocking, man. ⁓ no. Yeah. So, so now that was a, that was a dope point. Like I said, even, even though that they just got chemistry. So even though it was like, man, we, we two professionals at the top of the game, we can do this. Cause now we having fun. Give me the next track. Come on. Cause I'm right here. Give me the next track. Come on. Come on. What we got? What we got next? Yeah. Rome: Yeah, choose one. Yeah. Yes, yes, I'm good, let's get it. So I can't pinpoint the exact point, cause I don't wanna turn my audio on my phone. Hopefully you remember. At some point he says, ⁓ y'all don't wanna go home. And everybody said no. People were screaming, I was screaming no, everybody was, no. If dude decided this is where we're staying, BT: Yeah, yeah. Rome: for the rest of time, you about to be stuck in a time loop and we're gonna do this for rest of your time, for eternity? Cool, cool, great, let's do it, right? You know what I'm saying? So do you remember when that was? BT: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. And that's ⁓ I remember because he was like, man, we might be out here at five o'clock in the morning. And everybody went crazy like, let's go. Yeah. Rome: Let's do it! ⁓ Ain't no ⁓ plays next. Then we get Pharrell on the stage and you can tell their chemistry is on another level. Him and Pharrell got something that's just special. That's a ⁓ duo in a tandem that they have so much heat together because these amount of tracks, I'm about to name off. Y'all know the tracks. Excuse me, miss. La la la. I just want to love you. Frontin', allure. Back to back to back to back. Where you at now, BT? BT: Mm-hmm. Well, know, with Pharrell, know, shout out to Pharrell, man. Pharrell out there, man, drinking that Tiger blood, man. Pharrell looking like he bought, Pharrell look like he bought, man, 22 years old out there, man. ⁓ but just, you know, just wanting them, again, like a Swiss, like a perfectionist because, ⁓ you know, you just think about them, timeless tracks. Like, you know, Pharrell always been ahead of the game. So, ⁓ they, Rome: Always. BT: They make songs. mean, they was making stadium songs back then. ⁓ The song of Lloyd's, my son, one of my son's favorite songs is like once when they come on. So it's kind of like, imagine this being played in a stadium. And I don't know if you remember, I think it had to be, might've been backstage or the, might've been the Black album when he was making the Black album. he said, look, got the song for you, man. I got the song. Rome: That's my favorite song of all time. OOOOH! BT: This is, this is where, this is what would have happened to Carlito if he would have just made it through. This is, this is what's going to come up on the, when the credits are rolling on Carlito's way. So he dropped that line in there. Rome: And then he turned to the camera like, y'all thought I wasn't gonna get mine off and this is last album? And you can hit like, yes. BT: man. So, that a law always, man, it just, it just give me, it give me chills, man. And goose bumps when I, when I heard, you know, Hilltop, I'm like a toupee mixed with water to the, all of y'all can get it like group heads in your two way. I'm living proof that crime do pay. Like, come on, man. That's them lines right there, man. Again, timely. So they probably had that in mind of a stadium where you putting the camera phones up. Rome: MEEEE BT: And you just rocking. ⁓ man, come on, man. So yeah, Pharrell said was one of the, one of the dopest says, and then, you know, he gave him his flowers, man, before he got off to let everybody know like, come on, man, this, the argument is over with, man. What, what are we talking about right now, man? Well, what, what, is this discussion over with this, this dude that, man, come on, we can't. Rome: I'm not discussing that with nobody no more. Let's get this straight right now. I'm not discussing greatest rapper with nobody no more. I'm a Jordan guy and I got the arguments back, but I'll discuss that with you. I'm not discussing greatest rapper of all time with you no more. We're not having that discussion no more, bro. He's the gold in every way. You can not like him, his personality. I'm talking about this thing right here. All that other stuff. I'm talking about this. BT: Nah. Rome: he's the best at this because the amount of bars that he's spitting throughout that night and he's got a whole 20 more tracks, he did 46 tracks. Some of them were like, know, probably nine of them went here. So let's call it 40 or 35. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: He's got 25 more that he could have did a whole nother show on, a whole different show, and it would have been just as good. Flat out. BT: Yeah, no. even so, cause like I said, it reminded me of like the B side and I kind of knew when they said extra innings, I'm like, ⁓ well he got so much where he can just play around with this. He can give us B sides. He can give us mixed tape, Jay. He can give us some of the cuts that, you know, we never seen him perform. You know, he can give us, he got so much to kind of play around with. You know what I mean? So, ⁓ yeah, he could have just did the guest, the Jay Z and friends. You know what saying? It could have just been one of those things, but Rome: Just as guest versus. BT: uh, to have Pharrell out there doing that time, man, with, uh, with a law and with front and you know, it just, and again, Pharrell sounded like the record, you know what I'm saying? The dude sounded like the record. Like he, when it came to Pharrell part, we didn't get, we didn't get, uh, heard y'all sing it. Nah, Pharrell was like this too. So I think that with, with, and I know how those guys are, man, competitively man, they, they all trying to have the best show or everybody's trying to steal they part, you know what I mean? And I don't even, I forgot to even mention that about when the dream came out, even with the dream is like, ⁓ would have liked to see Frank Ocean, but I don't think Frank Ocean, I think

they say he don't perform well, but to have dream on that track, cause I think dream was one of the writers and he's also on that track, but everybody is trying to steal the show. Everybody's trying to knock they part out of the box. out of the park, boom. And I think for real, man, he, he waited, he waited, he waited. And then, man, when it was time to hit his notes and hit, man, he didn't disappoint. So shout out to for real. Rome: So then, clips come out and they do grinding. You'd have thought we was in Virginia at that point. Because again, that's on the short list of the 25 songs. If I had to put on a playlist to describe what hip hop is, that song's on the playlist. Because a large part of hip hop is beats. And nobody can go against the fact that that's one of the best beats made ever. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: You know what I'm saying? And replicated. When that song came out, we was in school, you was hitting on the table. BT: Right. Rome: You know what saying? Like you could literally play that, but it's bangs. And they do that together. So pause right there. Now the queen comes out. And when the queen comes out, everybody kneels at her feet and lets her come out and do her thing because that's what you do when the queen comes out. At this point right here, cause I'm pause right here then we go into the final stretch. Like I said, I've seen Beyonce in concert. I'm gonna do a ranking of my concerts one day that I've been to. ⁓ She's in the top five at least, ⁓ for sure. Just entertainment. didn't know none of the songs. I'm not listening to Beyonce all day. I didn't know none of the songs. My daughter knew every single one of them, track for word for word, banging concert. she, like you said, no voiceover, not a note missed. Not a screech, everything perfect. Where you at with the Beyonce? BT: All right, man, sir. So here we go. So this is my take on Beyonce. All right. So. No, man, no, man, no, no, this is you're gonna get a kick out of this, man. ⁓ So, man, love, love Beyonce, man. One of my favorite albums, man, all time is Beyonce's. Matter of fact, it's the Beyonce album with Drunk in Love on there. Right. It's like to me. Rome: You bout to say something controversial. Don't get me canceled, man. Say that for... BT: That was that's when I straight I think it was like 2013, 2012, 2013. I think when they came out, like I just like I rocked to that album. Like it ain't got nothing to do with like it just it's a dope album. Right. But I cannot hear Drunk in Love and not hear J.J. Icefish, man. Like I just I can't I can't I can't do it. I made the post. said, man, why, man, why Beyonce messing up my dude, JJ Icefish song like that, man? I can't. Like, the song, man, is such a song that is, dude, I can't. So when I heard it, man, I put my phone down, JD. I didn't get no Beyonce footage. I ain't gonna even look. Rome: What the? What? What? BT: I did not, I did not get any Beyonce footage, man. Cause when that song came on, I can't, it's like a Saturday night live skip, man. I can't look, I can't listen to that song without thinking about JJ Icefish, man. So, hey, tell me what y'all think about that one though. But I'm just, and if y'all don't know what I'm talking about, man, Google it. Hit the chat GBDs or something, man. But go find out, listen to JJ Icefish, Drunken Love, man. Rome: What? BT: and tell me if you feel the same way when you heard Beyonce. But, but yeah, man, not Beyonce, man, just the fact that we got the people that we got to like, come on, If you told me, man, that I was going to a Jay-Z concert and I get a chance to see Beyonce, man, come on, I don't need to do nothing else. I don't need to go. I don't need to go to no more concerts. No more. Like I didn't, I didn't this right here, man, when she did that. Okay. All right. Now we talk. The drunken love, man. But yeah, no, I just had to throw that out there. Rome: So Drunk in Love blends perfectly into Time 4. Again, the playlist, gotta get the playlist because the playlist exudes all this and it shows you how this stuff blended so well together. Whoever was the engineer, might've been Pharrell that actually did it because Pharrell said it one time, two funny, or one funny and one serious, Pharrell. Pharrell, I listened to him on an interview and he was saying, he sees music, you know what saying? Like he sees it visually when stuff is going on, you know what I'm saying? So he might've been the person that blended it. And you talked about him being a vampire, not getting older. Years ago, I seen him for real selling like skin cream or something, like facial skin cream. And I'm thinking like, bro, I don't want what you selling, I want what you using. BT: Right. Rome: Like, cause you obviously just started selling this. I want the stuff that you've been using for the last 20 years. Give me, give me the, can you give me the link to that one please? Cause the stuff that you selling, I don't know if that works. I know whatever that is that you was using, that works. So, so we get into the home stretch. Ninja's in pairs. That comes before that comes on, there's a countdown and roof go that this is when it don't have a roof. BT: Okay. Rome: But the stadium is vibrating at this point. When that comes on, the home stretch of this is the energy levels couldn't get higher. Like they had the big climbs with like Rihanna and Beyonce coming out. But at this point right here after Ninjas and Pairs, and then we get big pimpin' public service announcement, Empire State of Mind, which I'm not even from New York. BT: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: and I'm singing it like I am. Like I was born in Brooklyn, like crazy. Then the New York beat drops and Fat Joe and Jadakiss comes out and performs. And that, it just keeps rising. Then we get Lucifer. BT: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: Talk about a beat, ⁓ a beat. And I'm like, the one thing I was like. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: No, that's threats. close this out, we get dirt off your shoulder, or uncor- uncor-

to close it out. BT: Mm-hmm. Rome: Take us home, BT. What you got for the last part? BT: So, so my partner, Evan, that was standing next to me, like, you know, and like I said, shout out to Evan, man. Evan had the battery pack charger. He had the phone charger. So I'm all night. I'm like, man, let me grab this. Let me grab that. Hey, let me, let me plug this up. So I'm trying to time each one of them out. So I think during the Beyonce set, when he was like, all right, give me a second, y'all. gonna come right back. I charged up. I got me a spot, plugged it in, was kind of waiting, kind of waiting. I got to probably like 40%. I'm like, all right, I'm good, I'm good. Then that's when I think you said the countdown and all of this stuff started to happen. So this is the part where I'm like, okay, this felt like a European soccer game or like a Euro game when, cause I think doing that one, is when they did the the pyro. I think the pyro came out on the top. So you felt the heat coming up off there. But this. But this is when the when the when the flames came up. I think is when they had ninjas in Paris because it was like don't don't don't don't. Then they came with the smoke so they was trying to give you that European soccer field right like it's like it's France, you know, France and shout out to France playing for third place like they. Rome: ⁓ yeah, Rihanna had the pyro. I think Beyonce had some different stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. BT: They came with it. And you felt the heat through the whole arena. I through the whole stadium. And it just was rocking. It was rocking. It was rocking. And I think that is kind of where you kind of regret where it's like, man, I wish him and Kanye would find a way to kind of patch things back up. But to your point, is he just said a lot of different things you can't go back from to where it's like, you know, and even to the point where he played the The Lucifer, the Lucifer was a Kanye track, you know? So even her and the Lucifer, you know, it's kind of reminds me of like, these dudes had some, nice little chemistry together. You know what I mean? ⁓ I, man, I like fat Joe and Jada like, man, I'm just, I'm, I'm a huge fan of both of them dudes, man. And so to be able to just, and, and again, we talk about moments and when, know, you can, you can look at somebody like a Spike Lee. Rome: Huge fan. BT: and look and be like, Spike Lee, man, and sat around in them seats for all know how long, man, and finally see the Knicks get that championship and this and that. That's the way I felt about Fat Joe, man. Fat Joe, when they say the Bronx, he represent the BX to the fullest. Like for folks does it, Fat Joe reminds me of my father-in-law. Like he was like, you can tell he's the man in the Bronx. And for you to touch down in Yankee Stadium and not get that man a stage or a set or you know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. You sampled the man, you sampled the man voice on reasonable doubt and you didn't bring him out on that night. So this was a lot for, for you to bring them on out. And when he brought them out, when I say, man, I felt that dude, man, I was happy for, for Fat Joe, for him to get that moment on the stage in Yankee Stadium at that time. I was, man, I was happy for him, man. So it was kind of like, and you know that him and Jay got so much history between like the Ruckers and the Rockefeller, the rivalry, them dudes was beefing with each other for terror squad and ⁓ Rockefeller had beef for so long to the point where they both two old men at the stage of their life was like, man, why come out? I can't be cool with these dudes. And that's why I kept hoping for the situation with Dame to kind of be Rome: We ain't BT: the part where he brought him out. But it's just kind of like what to have fat Joe had that moment up on the stage with Jada and he was up there looking like the dawn looking crispy, like, you know, honey gone from New York, man. That place went crazy, man, cause that's an anthem, you know? Rome: That's done too. So the night before went from nine to 12. I think that this show, the plan was to go from nine to one. I truly believe that. And I think we would have got Leanback and we would have got one of Jada's best hits, Knock Yourself Out. You could have got any of them. Blackout. BT: Mm-hmm. No, no, no, no, we gon' make it. We gon' make it with a man made that mug with a pshh. Man. Rome: You gotta have Styles there though. think Jay Z and Styles got some recent stuff going on. But Blackout, I mean, they got tracks together too. Go crazy. I just think we would've got, I think they had to cut some stuff and they probably was talking to the city, yo, we gonna end it this time. We would pay the fine. Cause there's supposed to be like a curfew for it. Cause the Bronx is in the neighborhood. BT: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Rome: I mean, everything's in the neighborhood in New York. There's nothing that's segregated from the people. You feel me? So, but yeah, go ahead and go back to what saying, because I didn't mean to cut you off. BT: No, no, no, so no, but no, that was like, that was one of my highlights, man, to be able to see Fat Joe get his moment, you know, in Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, because, you know, you got to think about just, just imagine, and you know how it is, man, when you got a high profile game and everybody and their mama want to come to the game and some people might get left off, some people might not be able to get a ticket, man. Hey, look, I got a coach, man. I can't be dealing with no ticket list right now. Like, He gonna get there. I think like one of them moments for like fat Joe where he probably was like, look, I can't bring the whole Bronx up in her, but for me to get my moment, man, y'all should just be happy for me. You know what saying? So that's how I was feeling with that. ⁓ the, the situation with, with him doing Lucifer and numb and encore, I had hit the guy

next to me, my partner Evan. say, ⁓ what you think he gonna end with? I said, man, he got to end with encore, man. I thought he was either going to end with encore. or the New York song, you know, and I think he did the New York song first where he had to, he had to, again, he had to bring everybody closer together. He didn't do a national anthem. So without him doing a national anthem, he got to do the Frank Sinatra. I did it my way. I got to, or the New York, like he had to do something like that to where it's like, okay, look, New York. This is, I got to bring it home. I got to bring it for all of the cultures. But we got to do this. I'm in the home that Bay built, man. I got to do something like this. So I think it was a nice way for him to end. We're ⁓ ending with encore, but with Adnidla, extra baseball game feel to it. We're bringing the Frank Sinatra. And then he had the whole crowd singing it. He had the whole New York singing the Frank Sinatra song. So I thought that was super dope, man. Yeah, man, it was a, when they say it was a movie, man, we gonna look back on this JD, man, in about 10, 15, 20 years and the legend only gonna grow, man. It's gonna keep growing, pause, but it's gonna keep growing, bro. It's gonna keep growing. Rome: So this is a great point for us to bring home the pod. I think, and I, you know, I have my favorites and stuff like that. I'm, know, Jay-Z's my guy, number one on my list. I think it's the greatest concert of all time. Just how many tracks he did of his as bangers, his catalog is so wide. and the people that he had guest star in, the situation around it, when the show started, like it was, like you said, it's a historic night. It had dire straits attached to it. And like the stadium ran out of food. Thank God I had bought three waters already because they ran out of waters. Like, only thing they had was liquor left. ⁓ You can't do that all night. You know what I'm saying? ⁓ BT: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rome: I just think it's the greatest concert of all time. Like you said, it's part of history. There will be some kind of documentary and film and we'll get to know, was there more that we got left off? And, you know, I would always had an aspect of, oh, that would have been nice, but what I got was perfect. 10 out of 10, 100 out of 100. Where are you at as far as historically? Just putting it in perspective. BT: Thank you. Well, mean, the first thing you got to just think about when you talk about putting in perspective, man, is like the look at where we are. right. Two thousand ⁓ twenty six. All right. We just we were just fresh off a New York Knicks championship that they haven't had. And I don't know how long we're fresh off a New York Knicks parade that we haven't had. And I don't think they ever had a ticket take parade. So the energy is still up there. Rome: 50 plus years. BT: So we got the energy of that. Then you got the energy of coming off of that, going into the parade. Then you got the energy of coming off of that, going into this. This is one of them moments where you're going to be able to look back and say, right, the year 2026, what was we doing? This was one of them years, you know? And who knows what's going to come from this? You know, you got to always look back at it as looking at things in like a vacuum and the world, okay, what spawned from this? You know, a lot of folks in New York City history, they say, all right, The 1965 blackout. You know, you had Reggie Jackson, you had folks hitting the home runs. was a New York City blackout. And what emerged from there? Hip hop, right? That was the time where everybody stole all of the ⁓ radios out of the stores. And so something came from that. Now you got a story like this where good, bad, or indifferent, folks bum rushing the... the stadium getting in, like, but folks knew, hey man, I'm not getting left out of this. I might've missed Friday. I might've missed Saturday. I ain't missing Sunday. So what are we going to get after this? And only time will tell. So, man, I was happy. I think by far my best concert that I ever been a part of, even when the night was over with trying to figure out how I'm going to get back home was something that I'm just like, That's another moment that's going to stick with me because I'm like, dude, I had to stand out there with damn near 15, 20,000 people trying to get on a train and trying to figure out what train to catch in that moment. And then doing all of this and watching the sun come up, you know, this is going to be a story, man. Like I said, the legend just going to keep growing and growing every year. But by far, man, my favorite, favorite, favorite concert of all time. Rome: So yeah, there's still a sports podcast, mainly basketball. The Knicks winning, you can feel that around there. You just feel it. You don't go too many steps without seeing Knicks' graffiti. ⁓ Jay-Z said it during the show, Knicks in five. ⁓ It's just a perfect summer for New York. I'm happy for those people. I had a great time in New York. I didn't come across any issues. I had one slight issue that we'll talk about with my partners that we encountered, amazing. Like amazing night, two days, concert, energy. New York is the greatest city. I'm from Detroit. I love Detroit. Detroit always gonna be number one in my heart, but. That's the best city of all time. When you can go outside and get a slice of pizza at three o'clock in the morning for $4 and be on par with, you know, $40 pies, hey, you can't top it. The last question I end with you on this. And then I want you to plug your podcast before we leave. BT: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Rome: Do we get a Jay-Z out? BT: Yeah, I think so. think when you just look at all of the energies that's just surrounding this whole, this moment, like I said, I haven't even had the chance to really break down social media ⁓ and just see what folks are talking about, what came about this, what was the inside scoop behind the scenes. I'm still just playing

everything back in my mind. I'm fresh off the road, man, a 15 hour drive last night. I'm still excited. I'm on fumes, but I'm like, look, JD, we got to chop it up. Cause I got to get this out of my system. You know, we're not really out, but at the same time, I'm just, I'm ready to just talk about it. So I think this was good for me to kind of break down and talk about, especially for some, with some folks with you that was there in the moment. So we were able to kind of see it, but yeah, we got to get a roll out of an album and it's too much. He's the guy generated too much merchandise, too much, too many moments, too many everythings. And I can really see, ⁓ maybe like a three year run and doing something like this. Cause I think he got three more dates, I think in the fall where he's going London, Paris and LA. Um, and I think after that we get an album. We, we have that rollout and that excitement of that album. And then he come right back with a, with another tool. We're bringing guys on it. It may be his buddies. There's, there's sign the rock, uh, uh, live nation or rock nation and say, look, Rome: and an actual tour. BT: We're going to do us a tour. So I'm going put some money in y'all pocket for a year. Then we come back with maybe another reunion album with, you know, some other type of anniversary. Then me and Beyonce go on tour again. And then we come back around and somebody else is going like, is like the dude got so much energy and we're looking at, ⁓ we've never seen anything like this. No hip hop artists have ever reached this point to where he's just basically printing money. And the stuff is right in itself. You do this, drop an album, go on tour for another year, hit the summer, come back with another. That's if he chooses to do that. So this laid out there. Rome: We, so we have to have a black album. BT: Okay. Yeah. So when, so when would that be? So if he did a blackout man's averse, what was that? That's 2003. So we looking at another four years then, right? Let me see blackout. Rome: Do we, like, we have to. BT: So Black Al... Yeah, so yeah. we got a minute for that. Rome: 2003. We got to have it though. And I'll be there. Wherever he's having it at. I'll be there. ⁓ BT: Yeah. ⁓ That's. But yeah. Rome: So yeah, man, ⁓ BT, where can they find you at? Again, St. Mary's Dragons head coach, great head coach, ⁓ coach some amazing players. We're gonna get into that side of it. Very, very creative in how he runs his program. I've been at preview to be able to see him work up close and be around him. ⁓ One of my favorite coaches I've ever encountered. One of the better coaches in the area for sure, probably, you know, on the short list of the best coaches I've seen. ⁓ But as far as podcast wise, where could they find you at? BT: Oh man, YouTube, man, TikTok, Instagram, man, coach Brian Turner on all platforms. And yeah, man, I'm just, you know, drop drop, trying to drop some jewels, man, trying to promote the game of basketball, using it as like life tools and life lessons. So it don't matter if you're a parent, if you are a basketball fan, if you're a student, if you're a student of the game, man, it's something for everybody on there. So yeah, check me out on YouTube, on TikTok and on Instagram. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rome: And the wrestling, the wrestling, that's a big part of it, man. Like, nah, like I used to, once I got out of the attitude area, I kind of fell off of it, got older, whatnot, but wrestling is, healthy as it can be. And it's a huge part, it's a whole culture of itself that you're a part of. So yeah, man, you can get a lot of stuff from BT at this podcast. Please follow, check it out. Again, Camp A. BT: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rome: ⁓ Like, subscribe, repost, retweet, all that good stuff, man. We coming out a lot of stuff here coming up. So hope y'all enjoyed it. We enjoyed giving our perspective. Hit us with any questions you have later on. I know this is not live like we usually do, but ⁓ I just didn't feel like we would get the same response in the middle of the day. And we talk to y'all soon. Peace.