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What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father,
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Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Grace Van Patten, welcome
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to Call Her Daddy.
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Thank you so much.
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I am so happy to finally meet you.
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Me too.
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Like, it's been a long time coming. This is very exciting.
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How are you doing today?
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I'm great. I'm so excited too. I've said when I
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walked in, I've like seen this chair, this iconic chair
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so many times. You're here.
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You're here.
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And I'm here. Wait, so you live in LA? Yeah, recently.
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I moved here like two and a half years ago-ish.
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And you're from New York?
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From New York.
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How are you liking it?
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I love it. You do? It took me a while
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and I told myself I would never do it. Me too.
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But I also know I love New York so much
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and that's my home. And I know for a fact
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I'm going to end up back there so I figured
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like if I don't do it now I'll never live
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in another place.
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It's a good point it's a really hard transition though
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because I used to live in New York and when
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I got oh my god I got here and I
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was like where is everyone Because you think.
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It's just like, hello. Yeah, everybody. Everyone drives everywhere.
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No one's like popping into bars and restaurants around here.
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You're just like, hello. And I moved here with my
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best
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friend years ago. And we were both like thinking
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we were going to have the time of our life.
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It's like early 20s. And then we were like, wait,
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where is everyone? But then you eventually find your place.
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You get used to it. It's also like I tried
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out so many different neighborhoods. And I'm my happiest where
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I can walk and like get a coffee. If I
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can walk and get a coffee, I'm fine. Wait, do
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you live alone?
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Yeah. And do you have any animals?
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No, but I want them so bad. It's a big
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decision I'm making right now.
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But you think you're always traveling, though.
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I know. Yeah, so having an animal... Would be tricky.
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Maybe like a fish. Oh, wait, no. That would die.
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Just travel with like a bag.
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No, I was thinking, what could you leave at home?
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And I'm like, a fish.
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But no, I think you would also kill the fish. Okay.
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Maybe like if I had a koi fish in like
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a pond. I don't have a pond.
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Very sexy.
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But.
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Very sexy.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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We're going to play a game.
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Okay.
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First and worst. I'm going to give you a scenario
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and you just tell me a story that comes to mind.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Growing up, what was the worst trouble you ever got
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into with your parents?
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I was actually just speaking to a friend about this.
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I got into trouble frequently.
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Okay.
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Because I would get caught doing a lot of things,
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my mom had my location for a while. And I
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thought I found a loophole by leaving my phone at
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my friend's house and just saying I'm in for the night.
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And I think when my mom caught on to that,
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it was– Get reprimanded for sure.
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Grace, that is like, it's brilliant. And it's something I
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used to do as well. And my one friend, Anna,
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shout out if you're watching this, we were always going
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to her house because her whole family was like chill.
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They didn't really care what we did. And I'm like,
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I'm going to Anna's. What could happen, mom?
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And she's like, uh-huh.
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Leave the phone in the mailbox. Why the mailbox?
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Why the mailbox? You know, I don't know.
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In case we had to go to a quick pit
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stop and I would like check my phone so I
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didn't have to go.
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All good.
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Yeah.
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And it worked every time until finally my mom was like,
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I know you're not just sitting there all night. And
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then it was like, but at least we tried.
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We tried. And it worked for a while. It was great.
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But were you going to like clubs when you were younger?
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No, I wasn't. I mean, I definitely did at a
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young age, but that was never– I never enjoyed that.
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You never went to One Oak?
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Of course.
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I've been to one. PhD rooftop? I can't, though. It
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freaked me out even then. And it still freaks me out. Like,
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clubs freak me out. They're very over the top. I don't.
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I used to. I didn't have a phase. You had
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a phase. Oh, you never.
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Oh.
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I was like that girl.
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You were.
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I worked at the club.
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Literally. And also figuratively. But then I just. Yeah. Oh, yep.
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Socks in my tits to push them up, like looking like,
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oh my God, I have triple Ds.
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Literally would remove them when I- That's what I do
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for Tell Me Lies. Did you really? No, not socks.
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But you- Help, help.
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Shoved.
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Shoving them up with anything.
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Whatever I can fit in there. Okay.
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Who was your first celebrity crush? Oh.
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Um, Steve-O from Jackass. Wait, wait, wait.
Who are you?
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I had a weird, I don't know. I get it.
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Something about snapping turtle- Just nipping at his nipples, I guess,
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got me.
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Honestly, that show... Do you get it at all?
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Without a doubt. Okay.
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But I could see... No, because what was it recently
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on an episode of Love Island that everyone was doing
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it where this girl was like, okay, wait, who is
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your like, okay, wait, but hear me out? Who you
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would like hook up with, but it's like, okay, wait.
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Hear me out. But you wouldn't want to.
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But like, you know, people would be like so fucking judgy.
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It's like a hot take.
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Yes.
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Mine used to be like, I thought Johnny Depp specifically
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as Captain Jack Sparrow with like the eyeliner.
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That's a good one.
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But I was like, why am I so attracted to that?
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I get it. Talent.
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Talent.
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Steve-O. Something about like a daredevil, like, I don't know, adventure. Okay,
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love it.
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Okay, what's a time you made a horrible first impression?
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Oh, God, probably so many times. I do remember one
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of my first movies, Dustin Hoffman was playing my grandpa.
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And the first time I met him, I thought it
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would be cute to be like, hey, grandpa. And I
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saw his face kind of drop. And I was in,
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I like my face turned red. I was so embarrassed.
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And from that, I realized, you know, do not call
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any actor old.
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He's like, honestly, fuck off. You're like, well, I thought
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it was for the, you know.
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He's like, you called me old. I was like, I
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was mortified.
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It's the worst when you have something ready in your head.
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I planned it. And then it comes out.
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And you see, not only did it land, it actually
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just pissed the person off.
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And you're like, swing and a miss. And I was
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going in there like, I'm just going to make everyone laugh.
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No one laughed.
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Actual anger.
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Anger. Okay, Grace.
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Last one. What was the first time you were ever
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recognized in public?
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Probably before I started acting for my work in Divergent
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as Shailene Woodley. That's probably the first times I got
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recognized was as Shailene Woodley. That's actually amazing. Rewind.
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So, so many people in your life have come up
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to you and been like, Shailene.
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Yeah. Especially like when I was in high school and
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she was in The Divergence and also that movie with
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George Clooney. Oh, yes. The Descendants, I think.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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And we had very similar like hair at the time.
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And that happened a lot. Have you ever met her? Yes,
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I met her once. And I think I said something, but.
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I always get so nervous in those moments.
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Did you feel like when you met her, you both
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were like, you see the resemblance? Yeah.
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Is it annoying when.
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People say that though?
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No.
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Right.
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I don't.
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It's like when you're compared to each other where you're like,
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we're both.
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Also, she's so beautiful and so talented. I'm like, yeah, great.
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It's actually so true.
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When people are like compared to people that you're probably like, wait, guys,
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that's not funny.
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Don't compare me to that.
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Right.
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Wait, do we actually look like that? And then you
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don't want to act offended. Right, right, right. No, Shailene's gorgeous. Yeah.
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I'm like, I will take it. That's fair.
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Okay.
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Let's talk about your family. Okay.
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You have two sisters, right?
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Yes.
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How would you describe your relationship with them?
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They're my best friends. And you're the oldest? I'm the oldest.
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And then I have a middle sister who's only two
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years younger than me. And then I have a 14-year-old sister.
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So 15 years apart?
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What is that like? Which was wild at first. My
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mom was 45 and she was like, I'm pregnant. And
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I was like, what does that mean? I was 15.
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I'm like, you guys have sex? That's disgusting. Now I'm like,
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good for you. I couldn't fathom what life would be like.
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I've lived 15 years. We're like a little family unit.
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And I couldn't comprehend what that would be like. And
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then she was born and it's like the best thing
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that could have happened to our family. It's like kept
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us all Young.
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I do feel like I've seen that where, like, if
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someone has, like, a lot of younger sibling, it kind
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of gives a fresh new energy that keeps you guys, like,
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more like, okay, we're still young. We're not all out
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of the house. There's reason to come home. She's in
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high school now or whatever. And you're like, that's fun.
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It's so fun. Is she watching you, though, in, like–
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She's not watching Tell Me Lies. I told her not to.
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Okay.
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But she'll– she's always sending me, like, TikTok edits of myself.
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And I– And I'm like, June, I love you. I'm
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not going to watch this. But she, like, every time
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I see her, she's like, look at you. Look at
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this thing.
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And I'm like– She's like, there's, like, TikTok edits of you.
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But the fact that she's excited.
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That's really cute, though, that she's like, they're shipping you online.
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And you're like, stop showing me the fan edit. But
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at least she gets to see something.
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Yes.
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Your dad is a well-known director. What was it like
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growing up on these type of sets? Like that's obviously
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a very unique experience and now you
being in the industry.
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But before you were fully in the industry, tell me
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about what that was like growing up like that.
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It was amazing. I mean like I was always so
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curious about what my dad was doing and then being
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able to watch– through a couple different jobs that he's
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done and how they were all different. But like being
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surrounded by so many different types of people at a
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young age was really interesting. And watching all of these
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amazing actors do what they do. And like, I was
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just so in awe of that you could play dress
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up as a job. Like that's how I saw it.
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That's how I still see it. Like, it's just a
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very fun, When you're doing it, the rest of it
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is can be scary and unpredictable and inconsistent. But when
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you're actually doing it, it's so, so much fun. Like
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that's that's it.
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That's really cool because I feel like there I grew
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up and my dad was more in like the sports
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television world. But I always like a credit like. There
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was something about growing up that watching my dad get
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up every day and go and do something he was
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so passionate about, like he loved it. I feel like
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all of my siblings then and I either went into
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like entrepreneurship or the creative because I didn't understand what
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it would be like to not be so immersed and
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love it so much and like go for your passion,
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which is such a privilege, but it's so cool to watch.
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And so it's been, I think innately in me that
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I was like, I have to wake up every day
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and love what I do because both of my parents
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did that, which it feels like you kind of were
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like watching your father being like, this is so incredible.
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I want to immerse myself also in that world.
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100%. That is like the main thing I took from it.
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And he's never, he's like, only ever done jobs that
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he's so passionate about. And I
really try to do that.
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You got your first acting job on The Sopranos when
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you were eight.
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Yeah.
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Like walking in on that set day and that whole experience.
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What do you remember about it?
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I remember like the most vivid memory was the audition.
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Like that is engraved in my brain. It will be
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forever because I have never been so nervous about for something.
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Cause my, I was telling my parents, like, I want
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to be an actor. I want to do that. But
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I was eight and they were like, okay. And I
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kept bugging, bugging them about it until my dad was like,
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all right, you can, you can audition. You can try
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and audition. And I remember to this day, like every
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step of like walking to the elevator of Steiner Studios
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and like signing my name, they just like left me.
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They were like, go. And I like signed my name
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and the the guest book, whatever it is. And I'm
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like waiting in the chairs with all these other like
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girls with their parents. And they call my name in
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and it's a bunch of like producers and my dad's
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like in the back and like with his legs crossed.
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So they really wanted me to feel how it would
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feel like if he was not involved, which I appreciate now.
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But I remember doing that audition and just feeling so,
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so scared and so nervous. And then obviously did not–
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I didn't consistently act in between when I actually started acting.
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There was like a– I just went to school and
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didn't continue to audition and didn't do any of that.
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So you went to a performing arts high school though?
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Yes.
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Talk to me about how this was different than like
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a traditional high school.
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Um– It was insane. I can't imagine going to a
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normal high school. It was all of these very creative,
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quirky kids literally singing and dancing on tables and in
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the hallway. People on vocal rest writing on whiteboards and
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young kids that were very serious already about their art.
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Of course, there was variety. There were kids who didn't
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want to be there. And I was kind of like
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in the middle. I loved acting, but I didn't know
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if I wanted to do it as a career yet.
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It was just like a hobby. But it, yeah, it
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was a wild experience.
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I heard that you and Timothee Chalamet went to the
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same school.
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Yes. Yeah. He was a grade above me.
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Did you ever get to watch... His infamous talent show performances.
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Of course.
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Stop. Every year.
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Stop.
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Front and center. I witnessed the great act. It was incredible.
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It's just as amazing as it probably is watching the footage.
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There is footage of it, right? There is footage.
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Okay.
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So the world gets to experience.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's footage, but if people don't know what we're talking about,
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can you lightly describe what his performance was?
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He had a rapper alter ego named Tiny Tim or something. Mm-hmm.
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That's it. And he would– we had these yearly talent shows,
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which is, like, it was called Rising Stars. And this
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talent show was, like, American Idol. It was, like, all
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of the most insanely talented kids doing, like, either rapping
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or singing or doing crazy, like, contemporary dance or playing
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the flute. Like, you name it, it was– insane like
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i would still go to it because it was just
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the most talented kids.
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Okay.
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Tell me lies. Yes.
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Tell me the first time you read the script, initial vibe.
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What did you think?
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I loved it. It got me so excited. I was like,
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because it was my dream to do like a toxic,
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fucked up relationship thing.
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Why?
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Because I just loved those movies. They're like my favorite movies.
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I don't know why.
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I do too.
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It's okay. I mean, I loved Steve-O. I clearly liked
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some toxic energy. There's a through line here. There's some
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through line. But I loved watching those movies. They're like
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my favorite actors who have been in movies like that.
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So it was just something that I wanted to be
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a part of. And I thought it was so cool
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that it was a TV show and also about young
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people in a toxic relationship.
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And....
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I only read the pilot when I first read it,
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so I had no idea. I just had no idea
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what it was going to become in terms of chaotic.
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That's actually crazy to read the pilot and you were like, oh,
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this is going to be really interesting.
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Like, this is tame. And then to find out. Yeah,
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because Lucy in the pilot is, like, a completely different person.
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I thought I was, like, signing up to be, like,
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a preppy, like, kind of closed off– Like, going to college,
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maybe going to reinvent herself, meets a guy, it sucks. But, like,
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she is a full spiral out, like, manic journey that
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I did not know.
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If you had to say, because I know as an actor, like,
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I'm sure you're trying to find some ins. Like, is
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there anything you relate to her on? Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, I....
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I definitely related, especially first season when I was filming it,
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like being young and being really afraid of your feelings
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and then showing them and being like, oh, this is
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why I was afraid of them. Like, I think you
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meet Lucy in season one and she's very like, has
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a guard up. And then this guy just like slowly
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chips away at it. And then she's like, Gates are
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open and she can't reel it back now. And I've
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totally had that. Have you been in.
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Situations where you feel like you've maybe not been as
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like vulnerable in your life? And then you're saying when
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you've been, you're like, oh, that just bit me in
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the ass kind of.
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Yes. And then coming out the other side of it
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being like vulnerability is the most powerful thing you could
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ever have in any relationship or friendship.
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Okay.
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I know you said in the past, you hope you're
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not like Lucy, which like I agree with.
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But also we love her because she's entertaining. We love her.
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We love her.
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Heading into season three.
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Yeah.
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What is the biggest difference would you say between you
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and Lucy now?
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Probably not like learning her lesson. I feel like I'm
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pretty good at like knowing I've made mistakes and then stopping.
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And she's a little relentless with that.
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Oh, she's relentless.
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Okay.
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We're going to do some rapid fire.
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Up.
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Tell me lies.
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Okay.
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Which character would you want to be friends with in
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real life?
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Oh, probably Wrigley. Probably Wrigley. Like actually the sweetie boy.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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What item of clothing would you steal from Lucy's closet?
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Well, I just did steal some. When we wrapped. Really? Oh, yeah.
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I stole like the iconic true religions. That like I
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cannot find in real life. Anywhere. That like look good
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or fit. But for some reason, the Lucy jeans that Charlotte,
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who's the costume designer, found.
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Charlotte.
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I was like, can I please? Charlotte will help you.
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She's a genius at finding.
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Dude, I need to find Charlotte. The low rise jeans
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that she has found for you.
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It's crazy. She really found them.
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Oh, I would steal it too.
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Yeah.
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Okay, which character frustrates you the most?
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Lucy.
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Lucy. What's been Lucy's most cringeworthy moment?
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It's a lot to choose from. Or, like, I think
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any time Lucy thinks she's being subtle about something is
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the most cringey.
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That's a good point.
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Like, when she's, like, I think it was season one
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when she tells Stephen that she's not going to India because, like,
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some reason, but it's so obvious that she's staying in
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town to, like, be with him. And he, like, shuts
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her down.
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It's, like, the modern-day version of back in the day
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when– with the Hills, when, like, Lauren was the girl
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that didn't go to Paris because she stayed to go
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with her boyfriend.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And that was you in, like– You're.
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Like, you're not going to India, babe, because of Steven.
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I know.
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It's not because.
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And it's really obvious. Okay.
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Mine was though the underwear moment in season two.
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Oh my God. Of course.
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Of course. I was like screaming at my television when
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you are like hooking up with both of them in
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the same day and you're wearing the same fucking underwear.
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The same underwear. I was like, no. Disgusting. Disgusting.
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But honestly, genius writing.
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I know. So good. So good.
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Oh.
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That was gnarly.
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Okay.
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What is one piece of dating advice you would really
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like to give Lucy if you were her friend?
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Honestly, I feel like I would tell her– well, like
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there's the obvious ones of like get the fuck away
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from him.
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Yeah.
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But people don't listen to that.
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No.
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People need to figure that out for themselves. So I
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would tell her to try and like mend her relationship
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with her mom because she's had zero parental guidance this
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whole time. She has like a shitty relationship with her mom.
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And I feel like if she had some sort of
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motherly figure, like just tell her. Because like it was
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so helpful when my mom, like when you're caught up
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in something when you're young and your mom just tells you,
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like reminds you how unimportant this is in the grand
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scheme of your life. And how helpful that is to
502
00:22:51.829 --> 00:22:56.210
hear from like just an older, wiser person. It's so true.
503
00:22:56.230 --> 00:22:59.180
I feel like there's been so many moments watching the
504
00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.359
show that I'm like, oh my God, if only she
505
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.200
could go to her mom and feel like she could
506
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.440
actually tell her what's going on. Her mom as an
507
00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:10.099
adult could be like, babe. But because she lacks that,
508
00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.019
there's kind of nowhere to go. And obviously when you
509
00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:17.480
are In college, I experienced it. Like, we're all a
510
00:23:17.579 --> 00:23:19.539
shit show at that point in our lives. So your
511
00:23:19.579 --> 00:23:21.559
friends can only give you so much advice. But at
512
00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:22.299
the same time, you're.
513
00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:24.900
Probably doing a similar. Right. Everyone's doing a similar.
514
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:26.980
The same kind of shit, kind of. And so it's
515
00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.220
like you need someone that's actually been through life to
516
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:30.660
be like.
517
00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:34.400
Walk away. Yes. Trust me. Walk away or like everything
518
00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:37.400
will be okay. Like somebody just to tell her that. Like,
519
00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:38.029
you're good.
520
00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:39.769
Fuck, marry, kill.
521
00:23:41.009 --> 00:23:41.490
Max.
522
00:23:42.309 --> 00:23:42.750
Leo. Leo.
523
00:23:43.660 --> 00:23:45.559
Evan. Oh, my God.
524
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:48.059
Poor Max.
525
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:53.700
That's so... Poor Max. He's been right in front of
526
00:23:53.740 --> 00:23:57.359
her the whole time, and she's just, like, looking past him.
527
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:02.539
She is not... Oh, poor Max. Mary Max, obviously.
528
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:02.700
Um....
529
00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:14.390
Probably kill Evan. Bye, Evan. I love you. Sorry, Evan.
530
00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:16.490
It's okay. Sorry, Evan.
531
00:24:16.910 --> 00:24:17.150
Yeah.
532
00:24:17.190 --> 00:24:18.430
That's so funny.
533
00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:21.009
Okay. What is, in your opinion, the most fucked up
534
00:24:21.029 --> 00:24:23.430
thing Lucy or Steven have done to each other?
535
00:24:23.450 --> 00:24:29.529
I mean, Steven walking out of the Hawaiian party with
536
00:24:29.670 --> 00:24:32.779
Diana hand in hand, leaving Lucy in a coconut bra
537
00:24:32.819 --> 00:24:33.279
was pretty.
538
00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:35.279
Has your sister showed.
539
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.059
You those edits on TikTok? I don't think so.
540
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:39.680
They're everywhere.
541
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:41.460
They still live to this day.
542
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.309
Even though we're going on season three, that scene, what
543
00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:47.529
was your reaction when you read that scene? Because like
544
00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:49.049
you said, you only read the- Jaw on the floor.
545
00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:51.589
Jaw on the floor. Jaw on the floor. There's a
546
00:24:51.710 --> 00:24:55.950
really funny thing that happened because Robin Wright was directing
547
00:24:55.990 --> 00:25:01.440
that episode, the amazing Robin Wright. And she really approached
548
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.259
her directing style because she's an actor. She knew how
549
00:25:05.299 --> 00:25:08.630
to talk to actors and she- knew that Jackson and
550
00:25:08.670 --> 00:25:14.819
I were dating and was like, was like, basically just
551
00:25:14.859 --> 00:25:18.500
tried to get me to believe that this was real life.
552
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.440
And like, she's like, just think what if Jackson did
553
00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:25.640
do this? What if he walked out and said on
554
00:25:25.660 --> 00:25:29.509
the way out, I never loved you. I don't even
555
00:25:29.529 --> 00:25:33.190
think you're pretty. And I was like, and in the
556
00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:35.750
moment I was like, oh God, that'd be really awful
557
00:25:35.809 --> 00:25:39.730
and really bad. And I like just tried to go there.
558
00:25:39.950 --> 00:25:42.279
But really with that moment, it was like pure shock.
559
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.440
I thought like the less of a reaction, the more
560
00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:49.240
impactful it would be because it's like you don't even
561
00:25:49.259 --> 00:25:51.140
know what's going on. Like everything's in slow motion.
562
00:25:51.299 --> 00:25:54.160
It's a good point. There's actually– there is no reaction.
563
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:55.000
There's no reaction.
564
00:25:55.019 --> 00:25:56.619
You're going to probably process it later.
565
00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:57.180
Exactly.
566
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:58.839
But in the moment, you're like dissociating.
567
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.349
Yeah. You're like– yeah. I imagined it in slow motion
568
00:26:03.430 --> 00:26:04.869
because it's like– and I think that's what they did
569
00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:06.859
in the edit. They slowed it down. Because it's like–
570
00:26:07.190 --> 00:26:08.109
you can't even.
571
00:26:08.130 --> 00:26:11.369
I remember watching the first season and I think something
572
00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:15.059
that I really appreciated about it is it's such an
573
00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.599
accurate portrayal of what a toxic relationship is. And I
574
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.980
think that's why so many people really gravitate towards it
575
00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:27.009
because I haven't seen something like this done in cinema
576
00:26:27.089 --> 00:26:29.130
because you kind of are watching it and you're like,
577
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.970
It's such a slow, sneaky burn at first.
578
00:26:32.029 --> 00:26:32.349
Yeah.
579
00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:36.200
For you in your life, like, what is the hardest–
580
00:26:36.230 --> 00:26:38.210
I know you've said you've never been in a toxic relationship, but, like,
581
00:26:38.269 --> 00:26:41.710
what's the hardest lesson you've had to learn in dating?
582
00:26:42.950 --> 00:26:45.180
I mean, I feel like, like, to go back to
583
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.980
what we were talking about before with, like, vulnerability, like,
584
00:26:48.019 --> 00:26:51.500
before I learned that, I feel like it was so
585
00:26:51.579 --> 00:26:55.880
hard because I wasn't communicating and they didn't know how
586
00:26:55.940 --> 00:26:57.980
I felt. So it was just, like, would become a
587
00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:02.700
mess because– because I didn't know how to talk about
588
00:27:02.740 --> 00:27:04.559
my feelings. Yeah.
589
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.000
I think you said somewhere like you had never been
590
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.000
in a toxic situation, but you've been in immature relationships,
591
00:27:11.299 --> 00:27:15.220
which is all of us. And when you start dating people,
592
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.069
and it's cute because we think we're so mature when
593
00:27:18.089 --> 00:27:20.809
we get into relationships when we're in our teens or
594
00:27:21.130 --> 00:27:23.559
20s or whatever it be, and you're like, I'm literally
595
00:27:23.579 --> 00:27:24.099
an adult.
596
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:25.500
Mom, don't tell me what to do.
597
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.890
You actually
have no idea what you're doing.
598
00:27:31.109 --> 00:27:31.410
No.
599
00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:36.029
What did some of those like more immature things look
600
00:27:36.089 --> 00:27:38.509
like for you just like in life of dating?
601
00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:44.130
I feel like just lack of communication, jealousy is probably
602
00:27:44.150 --> 00:27:49.269
like a big immature relationship thing I feel like, which is,
603
00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:53.829
you know, normal throughout. even non-toxic relationships, it's very natural.
604
00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:59.660
But like that intensity of jealousy that felt like death
605
00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:00.940
or something, you know?
606
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:02.319
It's like all encompassing.
607
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:02.579
Yeah.
608
00:28:03.059 --> 00:28:06.480
There's always the fear too of like, even when you
609
00:28:06.579 --> 00:28:10.579
know something should be coming to an end, like the
610
00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:13.880
fear of like, what is life after that? Like that's
611
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.900
always a scary thought, even if you know what you
612
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.670
have to do, even if it is immature, even if
613
00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:22.410
it is toxic, it's like, That fear.
614
00:28:22.990 --> 00:28:26.069
Lucy's friends are obviously always telling her to leave Steven,
615
00:28:26.150 --> 00:28:29.880
but she never wants to listen, obviously. Have you ever
616
00:28:29.950 --> 00:28:33.440
been in a tough situation with a friend where you
617
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.819
know you need to have a conversation with them about
618
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.579
who they're seeing, whether it's because it's deteriorating their mental
619
00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:40.180
health or you found out they were cheated on or
620
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.279
whatever it be? And like, have you had that?
621
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:43.339
Yeah, for sure.
622
00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:45.799
How do you even approach those moments? Because some people
623
00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:48.779
are like, I'm not getting involved. Some people get involved.
624
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:50.779
Yeah. It depends on the friend.
625
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:51.160
Okay.
626
00:28:51.670 --> 00:28:56.210
I mean, especially when something is so overt, like cheating.
627
00:28:56.230 --> 00:29:00.019
If somebody cheated on my friend, like I feel no
628
00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:06.460
problem being like, don't settle for that. But it's also hard.
629
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.559
It's like, because you want to support your friends. And
630
00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:15.900
a lot of them, a lot of people are in
631
00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:19.650
this vicious cycle of relationships. And it's like, even if
632
00:29:19.690 --> 00:29:22.079
they know, It's not good for them. It's just– it's
633
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:24.000
hard to break the set. That's the hardest part.
634
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.660
And it's hard being a friend because you're like– on
635
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.220
one hand, I feel like it's my duty as a
636
00:29:29.259 --> 00:29:30.400
friend to be like, girl.
637
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:30.920
Yeah.
638
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.690
But then I also know you can kind of like
639
00:29:33.789 --> 00:29:35.829
suss out when your friend's not ready to hear it.
640
00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:36.150
Yes.
641
00:29:36.390 --> 00:29:37.630
So you're kind of like you kind of have to
642
00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:40.069
gauge it and then you're like are we gonna get
643
00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:44.150
in a fight right because I'm technically it would be
644
00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:46.430
overstepping and some people would be like no you have
645
00:29:46.450 --> 00:29:48.130
to tell him but it's like you know sometimes if
646
00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:50.980
you found out some shit you're like I actually could
647
00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:53.599
tell her but she's not in her right mind right
648
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.599
she's just gonna get pissed at me yeah so you
649
00:29:55.619 --> 00:29:57.460
almost have to kind of just like be there for
650
00:29:57.500 --> 00:30:00.519
a friend yeah and kind of like we said with
651
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.759
the themes of the show of like, if you go
652
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.119
at them and you judge them, then they're going to
653
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.339
alienate themselves and then they won't come to you the
654
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:07.980
next time.
655
00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:12.059
Exactly. Which is really dangerous too. And like, you don't
656
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.819
want to like, there's been so many situations where that
657
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.759
friend does open up and go there with you with
658
00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:21.220
like shitting on the guy or breaking up with them
659
00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.410
and then they get back together and you're like face
660
00:30:23.450 --> 00:30:27.690
to face and you have to, that's tricky. It's so hard.
661
00:30:27.890 --> 00:30:30.039
And you're like, So I think there's like a way
662
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.599
to do it in like a tame, supportive way. Yeah.
663
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.140
It's like.
664
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:35.480
Because at the end of the day, it's not your life.
665
00:30:35.819 --> 00:30:35.960
Exactly.
666
00:30:35.980 --> 00:30:37.720
It's your friend's life. And so you can be there,
667
00:30:37.740 --> 00:30:38.140
but you're also like.
668
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.700
And people don't listen to people. Like advice is a
669
00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:46.309
very like ethereal comfort thing. It's not like people don't
670
00:30:46.349 --> 00:30:50.910
take it literally. Unless it's like technique. Like unless it's like.
671
00:30:51.730 --> 00:30:54.089
People rarely take advice.
672
00:30:54.250 --> 00:30:55.130
I agree. Unless it's.
673
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:57.519
Not so personal.
674
00:30:57.839
--> 00:30:58.140
Yes.
675
00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:58.759
Right?
676
00:30:58.819 --> 00:30:59.119
Yes.
677
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.000
It's almost like if you can get like work-wise, if
678
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.960
you have something that is tangible that is like, oh,
679
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:05.000
this is going to help you get the raise or
680
00:31:05.019 --> 00:31:06.400
this is going to help you get the job, whatever
681
00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:08.180
it be, people are like, oh, I'm going to try it. Yes.
682
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.980
But when it involves someone.
683
00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:13.569
Mental, personal thing.
684
00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:13.910
Yeah.
685
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.680
In the moment, they could be like, that's literally genius, yes.
686
00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:17.960
And then they get home and they're like, wait, I
687
00:31:18.009 --> 00:31:19.430
can't do that. Yeah, they're gonna be like, I'm gonna
688
00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:19.869
text him.
689
00:31:20.109 --> 00:31:23.509
Yeah, yeah. They're like, how? Yeah, exactly.
690
00:31:23.529 --> 00:31:25.230
So you also can't take it too personal when you're
691
00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:27.250
a friend like that. I agree where it's like, give
692
00:31:27.289 --> 00:31:29.869
the advice if it feels right in the moment, don't overstep,
693
00:31:29.930 --> 00:31:31.589
but also expect nothing.
694
00:31:31.970 --> 00:31:33.150
Totally, totally.
695
00:31:50.829 --> 00:31:55.700
We have kind of an overlapping fun story because we
696
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.319
met both of our partners on Zoom.
697
00:31:57.779 --> 00:31:58.380
Oh, my God.
698
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.890
I met my husband on Zoom, a work Zoom. you
699
00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:03.430
met Jackson on a Zoom.
700
00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:03.789
Yes.
701
00:32:03.930 --> 00:32:04.230
Okay.
702
00:32:04.490 --> 00:32:07.329
Tell me about your first Zoom because most people, you guys,
703
00:32:07.369 --> 00:32:08.990
would think it's not so sexy. And I remember when
704
00:32:09.009 --> 00:32:11.069
I told my story, people were like, a Zoom. And
705
00:32:11.109 --> 00:32:13.339
I'm like, yeah, it really went down on a Zoom.
706
00:32:13.579 --> 00:32:15.500
Wait, I need to hear your story because I bet
707
00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:17.140
mine's the opposite of yours.
708
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.960
Okay. I got on a Zoom and there were multiple
709
00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:20.710
people on it.
710
00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:21.240
Okay.
711
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.079
I was meeting with my husband's production company at the time.
712
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:26.170
And he was late.
713
00:32:26.329 --> 00:32:27.089
I'm on the call.
714
00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.950
And everyone on the call was like fans of Call
715
00:32:28.970 --> 00:32:31.279
Her Daddy. So they were like, big Call Her Daddy fans.
716
00:32:31.299 --> 00:32:33.799
And they were like mentioning episodes to me and vibes
717
00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:34.200
were great.
718
00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:34.480
Yeah.
719
00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:37.259
And then Matt got on and he comes in as
720
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.720
just like the producer that's like, oh, like, I don't
721
00:32:38.740 --> 00:32:40.319
know much about your show. Like, tell me about your show.
722
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.390
And I'm like, immediately, I'm like, I need his validation.
723
00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:46.710
I'm like, why is this so fucked up that I'm like,
724
00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:47.789
oh my God, it's so hot.
725
00:32:47.849 --> 00:32:49.289
You don't know who I am. Love this.
726
00:32:49.309 --> 00:32:49.750
Totally.
727
00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:52.509
And then the whole Zoom, I'm like staring at his
728
00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:53.210
Zoom box.
729
00:32:53.259 --> 00:32:56.200
I'm looking at no one else. You like pinned it? Yeah.
730
00:32:56.539 --> 00:32:58.940
I'm staring directly in his eyes. He has no idea.
731
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.279
He's like on his phone, busy, not paying attention. No,
732
00:33:01.299 --> 00:33:03.559
but I'm, I'm watching him and I'm like, wow, he's
733
00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:06.210
like really hot. Like I'm attracted to this guy. And
734
00:33:06.730 --> 00:33:09.069
then afterwards he emailed me just being like, are we
735
00:33:09.109 --> 00:33:10.710
making this TV show or what? Like, let me know
736
00:33:10.730 --> 00:33:11.549
if you're ever in LA. I was like, oh, I'm
737
00:33:11.569 --> 00:33:12.930
going to be in LA next week. And then we
738
00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:15.230
went and got dinner and the rest was history.
739
00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:19.339
Was it instantly romantic vibe? Um, Or did you like
740
00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:22.599
kind of weasel your way? I was like, I'm on
741
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.009
a date. He's like, so the show.
742
00:33:25.230 --> 00:33:27.329
And then finally he was the person that actually gave
743
00:33:27.369 --> 00:33:29.430
me the advice where he was like, can I be honest?
744
00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:30.910
I really don't think you should make this TV show
745
00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:32.269
right now. It feels like this is not the right
746
00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:35.039
time in your career. And every other producer had been like,
747
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.119
let's make it tomorrow and just saw like dollar signs.
748
00:33:37.460 --> 00:33:39.240
And I was like, wow, that was very attractive that
749
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.599
he wasn't just trying to use it because like it
750
00:33:42.619 --> 00:33:45.160
would be a benefit to him. And then I was like, okay, well,
751
00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:47.259
if we're not making the show, let's turn this into
752
00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:50.160
a date. And he was like, okay.
753
00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:50.740
Oh, my God.
754
00:33:50.900 --> 00:33:53.059
And then it just– so I was like pretty forward
755
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:54.319
because I just felt it.
756
00:33:54.460 -->
00:33:54.839
Yeah.
757
00:33:54.859 --> 00:33:57.680
And I never usually was like that in relationships.
758
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.599
But you knew. Okay. What was your Zoom like? I
759
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.380
didn't like Jackson. Stop. No, we talk about this all
760
00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:10.849
the time. That's like– Because I had done– A bunch
761
00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:14.090
of Zoom chemistry reads because it was still like COVID-y.
762
00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:16.190
So it was all on Zoom, the first round.
763
00:34:16.329 --> 00:34:17.570
Wait, so this is for Tell Me Lies?
764
00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:17.869
Yes.
765
00:34:18.030 --> 00:34:19.090
And you have the job?
766
00:34:19.210 --> 00:34:21.989
I have the job. And we're in the process of
767
00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:27.099
like Zooming with guys and like reading scenes with them.
768
00:34:27.500 --> 00:34:32.440
And like Jackson, I had heard like was the favorite.
769
00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:37.989
So I'm like excited for his thing. And he gets
770
00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:42.110
on and I've told him this, that I'm like, oh,
771
00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:49.070
this is like a serious actor, like actor-y actor. So
772
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:52.110
I was just like, oh God. But he was so good.
773
00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:54.230
And I was like, all right, it's fine. Maybe we
774
00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:56.829
won't get along, but like he's perfect for the part
775
00:34:56.849 --> 00:34:59.769
and he's so talented and great. And so I was like,
776
00:34:59.869 --> 00:35:04.909
it was half really excited that like we found the Steven, right?
777
00:35:05.829 --> 00:35:07.409
But the other, I was just like, kind of rolled
778
00:35:07.449 --> 00:35:11.030
my eyes a little bit. And then we met in
779
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:15.000
person for the next round. And he was like, it
780
00:35:15.019 --> 00:35:19.300
was like a completely different energy. And he just told
781
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.559
me he was like really nervous for the Zoom. And
782
00:35:22.260 --> 00:35:24.769
he was just like, and now I know him so well.
783
00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:27.130
And I know that part of him. And I'm like, oh,
784
00:35:27.170 --> 00:35:29.510
that's what I was seeing. But it really took me
785
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:32.829
to meet him in person to be like, this guy's
786
00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:34.059
The best.
787
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.380
So you're about to do a job together.
788
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.050
Yeah. But then you start dating before the job starts.
789
00:35:39.070 --> 00:35:40.530
We start dating before the job.
790
00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:43.869
Who makes the first move? How do you guys decide
791
00:35:43.889 --> 00:35:45.090
to even like go on a date?
792
00:35:46.090 --> 00:35:53.519
We had some mutual friends that like I was so
793
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.059
in the like zone of the show and being so
794
00:35:56.139 --> 00:36:00.469
excited about doing it and like finding the guy and
795
00:36:00.510 --> 00:36:02.750
just like, it was just something I was really excited about.
796
00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:04.829
So like my brain was very like, tell me lies.
797
00:36:04.849 --> 00:36:10.269
And I kept thinking about him and I couldn't tell
798
00:36:10.349 --> 00:36:12.869
if it was like, oh, I'm so excited that like,
799
00:36:13.289 --> 00:36:15.130
I couldn't tell yet. I couldn't tell if it was
800
00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:21.250
like a crush or like a career exciting thing. And
801
00:36:21.269 --> 00:36:28.179
then I remember hearing like, my friend's boyfriend was working
802
00:36:28.219 --> 00:36:33.159
with him on another movie and we decided after they
803
00:36:33.179 --> 00:36:36.219
finished that movie like we were all gonna have dinner
804
00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:40.130
or something and so and so we all had dinner
805
00:36:40.170 --> 00:36:42.849
and it was just like instantly we were it was
806
00:36:42.869 --> 00:36:46.929
just we vibed instantly and it was kind of that
807
00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:48.250
and that we were both like we both have a
808
00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:50.070
crush on each other this is probably like the worst
809
00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:52.980
thing that could happen and like we sat on a
810
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.429
stoop for I think like six hours and talked about
811
00:36:56.590 --> 00:36:59.889
every reason why we should not act on this and
812
00:36:59.909 --> 00:37:00.570
then i kissed.
813
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:04.469
Him you're like so with all that said with all
814
00:37:04.489 --> 00:37:08.949
that said come here um okay so then no one
815
00:37:09.010 --> 00:37:11.750
knew you guys were first no other no.
816
00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:14.789
No one knew we were like and we didn't we
817
00:37:14.829 --> 00:37:16.909
weren't like let's we need to keep this secret but
818
00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:19.809
we were like we don't have to flaunt it we
819
00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:22.449
don't have to but we also saw it as like
820
00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:24.329
a fun game like how long can we go without
821
00:37:24.369 --> 00:37:25.719
people realizing.
822
00:37:25.860 --> 00:37:27.260
And so how did people find out?
823
00:37:28.230 --> 00:37:30.250
I mean, it was pretty quick. It was just like
824
00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:33.949
the cast knew pretty immediately because we would all hang
825
00:37:34.090 --> 00:37:35.590
out to like get to know each other.
826
00:37:35.670 --> 00:37:37.030
And they're like, why do you guys feel like you
827
00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:38.760
guys know each other more than all of us?
828
00:37:38.860 --> 00:37:41.400
And you're like, what? Yeah, what are you talking about?
829
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.000
So they knew right away and then people just caught on.
830
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:48.630
There was never like We never announced it, but like. Okay, love. Yeah.
831
00:37:49.010 --> 00:37:50.869
How did you, because I think this is something
people
832
00:37:50.909 --> 00:37:53.909
are always so fascinated with me being like, how the
833
00:37:54.090 --> 00:37:57.460
fuck do you work with your husband? And like, it actually,
834
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.079
for me, I'm always like, I know this sounds maybe weird,
835
00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:03.820
but it's the easiest part of my job. I completely agree.
836
00:38:03.860 --> 00:38:06.110
I was going to ask like, what conversations did you
837
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.190
and Jackson have in going into like, we're working together,
838
00:38:09.309 --> 00:38:10.909
we're seeing each other, how are we going to make
839
00:38:10.929 --> 00:38:11.269
this work?
840
00:38:11.929 --> 00:38:15.550
I actually don't know if we had any like initial conversation.
841
00:38:15.570 --> 00:38:18.000
I think it was very, because it was so early on,
842
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.639
I think it was very like, let's just see how
843
00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:25.880
this goes. And it just happened very naturally that it just,
844
00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:30.690
we found our groove in it and we were able
845
00:38:30.730 --> 00:38:33.409
to be professional and then also just have the best
846
00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:37.429
time together. And yeah, and I completely agree. It's like
847
00:38:37.469 --> 00:38:41.150
the best part of the job is being able to
848
00:38:41.190 --> 00:38:41.630
do it with him.
849
00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:44.900
What do you think is the most difficult scene that
850
00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:46.119
you guys have had to shoot together?
851
00:38:46.139 --> 00:38:52.590
I mean, honestly, any time he's being, like, a dick,
852
00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:55.050
which is most of the time, I'm like, you're a
853
00:38:55.050 --> 00:38:59.070
little too good at that. I'm like, can you come
854
00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:03.179
here for a second? Why are we so good at that? That's...
855
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.590
You're really good at that. That's so real.
856
00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:10.230
I'm wondering, like, because, you know, when, like, you have
857
00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:11.789
a dream, like, I don't know if this has ever
858
00:39:11.809 --> 00:39:13.530
happened to you, but sometimes I'll have a dream that, like,
859
00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:15.429
something happened with Matt.
860
00:39:15.210 --> 00:39:16.190
And then I wake up. Oh, do you wake up
861
00:39:16.250 --> 00:39:16.909
fully pissed?
862
00:39:17.010 --> 00:39:19.230
And I'm like, wait, why am I mad at him?
863
00:39:19.550 --> 00:39:19.829
Yes.
864
00:39:19.829 --> 00:39:22.019
Does that ever happen with you where, like, he's playing
865
00:39:22.019 --> 00:39:23.519
so good that you're like, am I mad at you
866
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:24.320
or am I mad at Steven?
867
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.219
Oh, that's interesting.
868
00:39:25.219 --> 00:39:27.239
But you're Steven and you're going home at night together
869
00:39:27.260 --> 00:39:27.659
and you're like.
870
00:39:28.219 --> 00:39:34.380
You were really mean today. Yeah. It's real. No, thankfully
871
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.550
I can separate Steven from Jackson, but I do have
872
00:39:37.590 --> 00:39:40.929
the dream thing 1000%. If I have a dream that
873
00:39:40.989 --> 00:39:44.690
he like cheated on me, I wake up and he
874
00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:48.800
cheated on me. I'm like, you ruined our life. For sure.
875
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:50.900
Matt's like, bring me coffee. He's like, what do you mean?
876
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.699
I'm like, you... Oh, fuck.
877
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.780
I know it was a dream, but I still am angry.
878
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:55.940
He's like, why?
879
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:56.559
I know.
880
00:39:56.579 --> 00:39:59.119
It's like such a real thing. Do you dream really vividly?
881
00:39:59.440 --> 00:39:59.559
Oh.
882
00:39:59.780 --> 00:40:00.949
Yeah, same. I think that's why.
883
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.199
Sometimes I pick up on my dreams the next night.
884
00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:04.880
I like to tap back into work.
885
00:40:04.980 --> 00:40:06.800
I do the same thing. It's like a show. And
886
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:11.300
it feels so real to me. Beyond. My dreams, yeah.
887
00:40:11.579 --> 00:40:14.139
Okay, there's a lot of sex in the show, obviously.
888
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:14.480
Yes.
889
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:18.570
Talk to me about how when you... kind of knew
890
00:40:18.670 --> 00:40:20.650
that this was something that came with the show? How
891
00:40:20.670 --> 00:40:22.369
did you feel about it? Was there any part that
892
00:40:22.389 --> 00:40:26.639
was hesitant? Did you tell your family? Were they chill? Like,
893
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:27.900
because it's a lot.
894
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:34.559
It's a lot. I remember, like, it's not the first
895
00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:38.139
time I had been, like, naked in anything. So it wasn't, like,
896
00:40:38.179 --> 00:40:41.260
it didn't feel like this first scary thing. It was
897
00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:47.039
scary for a million different reasons. But I'm, like, The
898
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.840
most important thing to me when there's like nudity or
899
00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:53.590
sex stuff is that it's just necessary to the story
900
00:40:53.809 --> 00:40:57.070
and to the character. And I felt like this really was.
901
00:40:57.750 --> 00:41:03.010
Like it's such a specific thing being like for Lucy
902
00:41:03.650 --> 00:41:06.949
sexually awakened for the first time and being obsessed with
903
00:41:06.969 --> 00:41:10.500
the guy who like changed her life sexually and like
904
00:41:10.579 --> 00:41:12.139
not being able to get that out of her brain.
905
00:41:12.219 --> 00:41:18.099
Like that is a very relatable thing. And I couldn't
906
00:41:18.179 --> 00:41:22.139
imagine telling that story without sex in it. It's like
907
00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:26.989
seeing the power dynamics change through it and like getting
908
00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:30.369
that false validation from it, getting like so many things.
909
00:41:30.429 --> 00:41:32.869
I feel like it was necessary to tell the story.
910
00:41:32.909 --> 00:41:34.690
So in that way, I was like, I felt safe
911
00:41:35.309 --> 00:41:37.280
doing it. It's a great point. Like, I agree.
912
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.659
I think there's been shows I think that I've watched
913
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.599
that I'm like, this feels forced.
914
00:41:41.739 --> 00:41:42.079
Yeah.
915
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.260
And I agree with you. I think so much of it, again,
916
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.389
why it is so relatable, it's like, I have experienced
917
00:41:48.409 --> 00:41:51.909
that where as a woman you're like trying to navigate
918
00:41:51.929 --> 00:41:53.980
like should I sleep with him now? Should I sleep
919
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.030
with him when? And like how will that impact the–
920
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.860
and it's just such a mind fuck and we watch
921
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:00.460
you handle.
922
00:42:00.139 --> 00:42:00.619
That so well.
923
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.690
So I agree with you. Obviously I think there's the
924
00:42:04.829 --> 00:42:09.730
natural question that everyone always has of like how does
925
00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:14.300
playing– this character with your boyfriend and having these sex
926
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.119
scenes in a show? Like, is it hot and steamy? Which,
927
00:42:18.809 --> 00:42:20.349
I mean, I'll let you answer for yourself.
928
00:42:20.730 --> 00:42:24.909
No, I think it's like a very common misconception to
929
00:42:24.949 --> 00:42:28.309
think that it's hot because it could not be less
930
00:42:29.170 --> 00:42:32.130
sexy to me. For me, at least, like filming those
931
00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:39.199
scenes are the most technical, choreographed. There's like intimacy coordinator...
932
00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:42.679
coordinators there, there's the directors, the show run, like, there's
933
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.780
so many people around. There's, like, it has to be, like,
934
00:42:46.860 --> 00:42:53.730
planned legally. So it's, like, it's be very hard to
935
00:42:53.909 --> 00:42:56.489
enjoy yourself in those moments.
936
00:42:57.289 --> 00:42:59.190
I was thinking about that when I was going to
937
00:42:59.269 --> 00:43:01.789
ask you that because I was, like, knowing that, like,
938
00:43:01.829 --> 00:43:04.050
that's what happens on sets, which I get it. Like,
939
00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:06.780
for most consumers, they don't understand that where it's, like, there's, like,
940
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:11.199
sometimes– 20 people in a room or five or 50.
941
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.860
It depends on like what the shoot is. And it's
942
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.090
so not about the sex. It's so about like, can
943
00:43:18.110 --> 00:43:22.590
you lift up your right leg more so we can see?
944
00:43:22.730 --> 00:43:24.849
Okay. Yeah. Your arm. Can you move your arm a
945
00:43:24.869 --> 00:43:27.260
little bit so you can't see your nipple? Like it's
946
00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:29.960
like all that. And then you'll like turn your head
947
00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:31.960
and you'll see like a guy holding a boom and
948
00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:35.900
you're like, what? This is so weird. This is so weird.
949
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.570
And you're so, I mean, for me, I just like
950
00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:41.469
completely disassociate in those scenes too. I like feel so
951
00:43:41.530 --> 00:43:43.789
out of body. I don't know. I like, I don't
952
00:43:43.829 --> 00:43:46.090
know what I do in those scenes because I'm like.
953
00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:49.420
Is it easier to do it with Jackson or would
954
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.119
it almost be easier to do it with Jessica Randall?
955
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.440
No, it's so much easier because you feel comfortable. Like
956
00:43:54.619 --> 00:43:57.760
so much of the weirdness is not knowing the guy
957
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.710
you have to do that with. And, like, it's just–
958
00:44:00.789 --> 00:44:04.070
it makes it so much safer and comfortable, at least.
959
00:44:04.409 --> 00:44:06.429
What is the most awkward moment that you guys have
960
00:44:06.449 --> 00:44:07.449
had on set together?
961
00:44:08.809 --> 00:44:09.550
Me and Jackson?
962
00:44:09.570 --> 00:44:09.809
Mm-hmm.
963
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.460
I don't know if we've had an awkward moment. I
964
00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:20.920
made him laugh, which Jackson is, like– he does not break. Like,
965
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:25.039
you cannot break him when he's in the zone. And
966
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.940
I made him laugh this season, and I will– wear
967
00:44:27.980 --> 00:44:30.300
it on my chest for like the rest of my life.
968
00:44:30.530 --> 00:44:31.840
You're like at dinner. You're like, remember when I made
969
00:44:31.889 --> 00:44:32.239
you laugh?
970
00:44:32.260 --> 00:44:35.409
I literally, I like don't take so much pride in
971
00:44:35.469 --> 00:44:39.090
it that I broke him. So that was, that was great.
972
00:44:39.329 --> 00:44:41.889
Can you tell me about this ADR situation that we
973
00:44:41.909 --> 00:44:44.789
were talking about before we started filming? So obviously because
974
00:44:44.809 --> 00:44:47.150
of the amount of sex scenes, there's going to have
975
00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:48.360
to be, or you explain it.
976
00:44:48.769 --> 00:44:53.989
Yeah. So like normally after you finish a show or movie,
977
00:44:54.389 --> 00:44:57.699
you go in to do ADR, which is like plugging
978
00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:00.780
in sounds that like maybe the sound got messed up
979
00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:03.409
or whatever it is. There's some interference with the sound.
980
00:45:04.309 --> 00:45:08.150
And with all these sex scenes, I've had to ADR
981
00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:11.340
sex scenes
multiple times. And that is the most awkward thing.
982
00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:14.119
I think that is worse than shooting the sex scene.
983
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.119
Like pissing your hand or like moaning in a booth.
984
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.710
Ha ha ha. Dude, you are.
985
00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:25.159
Putting us on your back. I'm literally like, can anybody else?
986
00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:27.699
No one knows what my kissing sound sounds like. Can
987
00:45:27.739 --> 00:45:29.440
somebody else do this?
988
00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:32.880
They're like, Grace, get in the booth. Honestly, thank you
989
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:34.820
because it seems so real. But like now hearing you
990
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.170
do that, I'm never going to be able to undo that.
991
00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:38.179
That's amazing. It's so....
992
00:45:55.969 --> 00:45:58.530
What would you say your best quality is as a partner?
993
00:45:58.550 --> 00:46:10.960
I think support. I think I'm really supportive and like
994
00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:16.869
I'm so excited for him about everything. And I think
995
00:46:19.489 --> 00:46:21.469
I just– it's one of my favorite things to do.
996
00:46:21.710 --> 00:46:25.429
So like get excited for him and support whatever he's doing.
997
00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:31.400
doing what is his best quality he's a really good
998
00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:36.889
listener and like really eases my anxiety on a lot
999
00:46:36.909 --> 00:46:41.570
of things he's like a very calm grounded presence and
1000
00:46:42.690 --> 00:46:46.050
it makes me feel really really like at ease.
1001
00:46:46.849 --> 00:46:50.110
Yeah cute um okay we're gonna play a game okay
1002
00:46:50.530 --> 00:46:53.199
there are obviously a lot of secrets and tell me
1003
00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:56.969
lies so today we're gonna learn some of yours Okay.
1004
00:46:57.570 --> 00:47:00.650
What is a secret obsession of yours that people would
1005
00:47:00.670 --> 00:47:01.590
be shocked by?
1006
00:47:02.250 --> 00:47:11.230
Secret obsession. This is a new one. I'm obsessed with
1007
00:47:11.289 --> 00:47:12.289
pajama sets.
1008
00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:14.630
Like sexy?
1009
00:47:14.949 --> 00:47:15.829
No. Oh.
1010
00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:21.679
Like, like. Jackson did. He did a video of me
1011
00:47:21.739 --> 00:47:24.340
last night because I started getting in this. I don't
1012
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.110
know if this is like. an OCD thing that's begun
1013
00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:34.710
or like a ritual or superstition. I don't know. I've
1014
00:47:34.750 --> 00:47:38.469
made this up. But like recently, like the past year,
1015
00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:42.789
if I have something to do the next day, like
1016
00:47:42.849 --> 00:47:45.449
a first day of something, of work or whatever, or
1017
00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:49.329
like a big day of press or whatever, I feel
1018
00:47:49.369 --> 00:47:51.489
like I have to wear a pajama set or else
1019
00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:53.489
it's going to be really.
1020
00:47:53.289 --> 00:47:55.659
Bad the next Did you put on this pajama set
1021
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:57.400
because you knew you were coming on Call Her Daddy?
1022
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.440
Wait. After you have to show up, what does it
1023
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.480
look like? I tried on a new one last night
1024
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.699
that I've never worn, but I ordered online. And I
1025
00:48:08.739 --> 00:48:11.150
looked like a 1930s like jester.
1026
00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:14.849
And so you're just like trying out new PJ sets
1027
00:48:14.929 --> 00:48:15.570
left and right.
1028
00:48:15.590 --> 00:48:19.030
Trying out not so sexy. No, literally none of them
1029
00:48:19.090 --> 00:48:21.849
are sexy. They're either like I can do with like
1030
00:48:21.889 --> 00:48:28.960
a long nightgown or just like a cozy set, like
1031
00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:32.239
top and bottom. But last night was really, I had
1032
00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:35.179
to change. I had to change. Because I'm like this almost,
1033
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.769
I think this might give me bad luck. There was
1034
00:48:37.789 --> 00:48:40.469
like weird cinching happening that I felt like my arms
1035
00:48:40.489 --> 00:48:43.530
were getting cut off. Yeah, no. But I'll get the
1036
00:48:43.570 --> 00:48:46.710
video for you. Because he's like, what? He was like,
1037
00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:48.769
did you miss clown school?
1038
00:48:49.710 --> 00:48:51.489
Thinking of you being like, okay, I'm going on Call
1039
00:48:51.530 --> 00:48:52.159
of Duty tomorrow.
1040
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:52.840
What should I do?
1041
00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:54.500
And you're putting this shit on. He's like, you look
1042
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.539
like an actual clown. Take it off.
1043
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:00.440
It's literally like red, white, no, red and like navy
1044
00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:03.619
stripes with like almost like a bib thing. It looked
1045
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.760
so cute online. And I got them for my sister's.
1046
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.400
So now we all have them. And I remember actually
1047
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:12.039
thinking like when I gave them to them, I think
1048
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:13.699
they must have worn them. And I was like, do
1049
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.369
you like your pajamas? And I remember like kind of
1050
00:49:16.849 --> 00:49:19.769
not loving their response. And they were like, yeah, they're cute.
1051
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.139
And now I know why.
1052
00:49:21.179 --> 00:49:22.519
I put them on last night and I was like,
1053
00:49:23.659 --> 00:49:25.079
this is actually heinous.
1054
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:26.340
Goodbye. Goodbye.
1055
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:26.440
Okay.
1056
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:29.619
See, we needed to know these things.
1057
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:30.880
Okay.
1058
00:49:31.139 --> 00:49:33.360
What's the worst
lie you ever told to get out
1059
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:33.960
of plans?
1060
00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:39.650
You know, I feel like When I was younger, I would, like,
1061
00:49:39.750 --> 00:49:42.070
really try and come up with an excuse out of, like,
1062
00:49:42.309 --> 00:49:46.239
not wanting to hurt people's feelings. But I really take
1063
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.619
pride in just telling the truth now. Like, I love
1064
00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:57.099
canceling plans and saying, like, I'm really tired. Or, like,
1065
00:49:57.500 --> 00:50:01.260
I don't want to leave my house. Or, like, I'm
1066
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:03.780
trying to do that as much as possible.
1067
00:50:03.909 --> 00:50:06.610
I actually respect that more than when you get the
1068
00:50:06.650 --> 00:50:07.949
text that's like, okay.
1069
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:09.199
Yeah.
1070
00:50:09.260 --> 00:50:11.699
My grandmother. I'm like, wait, you said she died.
1071
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:12.340
Right.
1072
00:50:12.500 --> 00:50:13.679
Well, she's back. Right.
1073
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.900
And then you go on this long tangent and you're like,
1074
00:50:15.980 --> 00:50:17.440
just tell me you don't want to come or you
1075
00:50:17.460 --> 00:50:17.920
can't come.
1076
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:18.880
Yes. Yes.
1077
00:50:19.099 --> 00:50:21.139
Okay, I love that for you. So that's what I
1078
00:50:21.219 --> 00:50:21.659
try and do.
1079
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.159
What's a childhood secret you never told your parents?
1080
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.239
I actually just let one secret out that I kept.
1081
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.059
I got a tattoo and I mean, so long ago
1082
00:50:34.179 --> 00:50:36.199
and I never told my parents and we were on
1083
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:40.449
vacation last summer. And I had a couple of drinks
1084
00:50:40.510 --> 00:50:43.409
and I was like, guys, look. And I flipped because
1085
00:50:43.429 --> 00:50:44.969
I got it in my lip. What does it say?
1086
00:50:45.610 --> 00:50:49.429
It says 99. And it's for my grandpa. It was
1087
00:50:49.449 --> 00:50:52.360
like a grandpa thing. And I was drunk and thought
1088
00:50:52.380 --> 00:50:54.139
that my mom would love it because it's like for
1089
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.619
her dad. And they were like, what?
1090
00:50:57.019 --> 00:50:57.300
What?
1091
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.219
Because they thought I've had no tattoos. And I let
1092
00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:04.889
it slip that I do. And they freaked out they
1093
00:51:04.909 --> 00:51:07.260
freaked out but now they think it's inside your lips
1094
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.940
you can't see it it's like so you know other
1095
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.599
tattoos i have a little i have a little spider
1096
00:51:13.420 --> 00:51:16.260
here when did you get that i got it with
1097
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.219
jackson on my birthday like two years ago.
1098
00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:22.800
Maybe almost three years ago when is your birthday november
1099
00:51:23.389 --> 00:51:25.760
21st are you into your horoscope or no.
1100
00:51:26.230 --> 00:51:28.250
I i'm into it i don't know a lot about
1101
00:51:28.309 --> 00:51:32.829
it but i'm down for it scorpio scorpio Uh-oh. See,
1102
00:51:32.869 --> 00:51:34.070
that's the face I always get.
1103
00:51:35.010 --> 00:51:37.340
Well, I dated, I think, a Scorpio man, and I
1104
00:51:37.340 --> 00:51:38.880
was like- I don't know any Scorpio men.
1105
00:51:38.900 --> 00:51:44.360
What are they like? Scary? What is Jackson? Pisces. Oh,
1106
00:51:44.380 --> 00:51:44.800
that's good.
1107
00:51:45.139 --> 00:51:45.300
Yeah.
1108
00:51:45.579 --> 00:51:49.719
Yeah, Scorpio men, they'll fuck you up.
1109
00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:52.619
Mental, mental games.
1110
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:53.059
Uh-huh.
1111
00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:54.840
Scary. Yeah, scary.
1112
00:51:54.889 --> 00:51:57.650
But, you know, I think women are great. A lot
1113
00:51:57.670 --> 00:51:58.989
of my friends are Scorpios, so I love them.
1114
00:51:59.010 --> 00:51:59.309
Okay, good.
1115
00:51:59.329 --> 00:52:00.250
So you're totally good.
1116
00:52:00.409 --> 00:52:00.750
I'm in.
1117
00:52:00.969 --> 00:52:01.809
Okay. Okay.
1118
00:52:02.130 --> 00:52:05.050
Let's talk about the twisted tale of Amanda Knox.
1119
00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:05.909
Let's do it.
1120
00:52:06.349 --> 00:52:08.300
I will never forget the day I interviewed her. Oh,
1121
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:09.420
my God.
1122
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:09.800
Yes.
1123
00:52:09.940 --> 00:52:12.750
I know. I met her. Oh, my God.
1124
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.059
This was like years ago.
1125
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:15.820
Years ago. Yeah.
1126
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.610
And it was before I even had video podcasting. She
1127
00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:23.219
came to my house. Her husband came. They brought– their child.
1128
00:52:23.539 --> 00:52:26.650
And I met her and I was just like, I
1129
00:52:26.989 --> 00:52:29.250
need to know everything. Like she just has this- And
1130
00:52:29.269 --> 00:52:29.829
she'll tell you.
1131
00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:31.670
I know. She'll tell you everything. She'll tell you it all.
1132
00:52:31.690 --> 00:52:32.550
And she's such an open book.
1133
00:52:32.929 --> 00:52:35.809
Talk to me about how rewarding it was to play
1134
00:52:35.849 --> 00:52:36.469
this character.
1135
00:52:36.820 --> 00:52:41.539
It was amazing. It's like, it really feels like the
1136
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.699
most important thing I've ever done and ever will do.
1137
00:52:45.019 --> 00:52:49.780
Just being able to help somebody tell their story in
1138
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.940
their own way is so- Just so cool. And I'm so,
1139
00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:56.090
so honored that I got to be a part of it.
1140
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.500
Is it true that you have said throughout your career
1141
00:52:58.519 --> 00:52:59.559
you always wanted to play her?
1142
00:52:59.619 --> 00:53:03.840
Yes. What drew you to it? I remember watching the documentary,
1143
00:53:03.949 --> 00:53:08.349
the Netflix one, in like 2015 or 16, whenever that
1144
00:53:08.389 --> 00:53:12.250
came out. And I just remember watching her and being like,
1145
00:53:12.769 --> 00:53:16.809
this person is so fascinating. Like, yes, the story is
1146
00:53:17.070 --> 00:53:21.380
crazy and amazing. I can't believe the story and the
1147
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.409
details of it. But I thought she was just so interesting.
1148
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.329
And I couldn't quite get a full grasp on her.
1149
00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:30.829
And I just wanted to know more. So like that
1150
00:53:31.710 --> 00:53:32.369
intrigued me.
1151
00:53:33.090 --> 00:53:35.389
You were incredible. And I think you did such a
1152
00:53:35.429 --> 00:53:38.269
great job of making your own while also staying true
1153
00:53:38.409 --> 00:53:42.849
to Amanda and the integrity of her story. Like how
1154
00:53:42.889 --> 00:53:45.289
much time did you get to spend with Amanda pre-shooting?
1155
00:53:45.989 --> 00:53:49.239
I found out. I got the job and then I
1156
00:53:49.539 --> 00:53:53.889
had like two months. Okay. So that was– those two
1157
00:53:53.929 --> 00:53:57.090
months were like crammed in with a lot of learning
1158
00:53:57.130 --> 00:53:59.510
Italian and talking to her as much as I could.
1159
00:53:59.530 --> 00:54:02.469
But like throughout the whole shoot, I was talking to
1160
00:54:02.510 --> 00:54:05.860
her pretty frequently. Amazing. Because she was– I mean, you've
1161
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.519
met her. She's so open and so vulnerable. I felt
1162
00:54:09.579 --> 00:54:12.960
like– If I had a question at any moment, I
1163
00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:15.300
could just like text her and call her and she
1164
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:15.980
was just so there.
1165
00:54:16.820 --> 00:54:19.030
Then after this, we are going back to Tell Me
1166
00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:21.690
Lies because season three then is going to come out.
1167
00:54:22.090 --> 00:54:24.130
I know you can't say anything, but to wrap up,
1168
00:54:24.530 --> 00:54:27.989
number one, so you filmed everything. So you know what
1169
00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:31.079
the finale is. You're sitting in my presence with this knowledge.
1170
00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:31.980
I wish I could tell you.
1171
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.190
I feel like the cast... I feel like I've seen
1172
00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:38.750
in the past always has tried to predict or like
1173
00:54:38.929 --> 00:54:40.489
bet on what they think is going to happen.
1174
00:54:40.789 --> 00:54:41.250
Oh, yeah.
1175
00:54:41.610 --> 00:54:43.679
Did you guys bet on anything for this season and
1176
00:54:43.699 --> 00:54:44.219
did anyone.
1177
00:54:44.070 --> 00:54:47.219
Get it right? Honestly, no. Okay.
1178
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:48.099
No.
1179
00:54:48.300 --> 00:54:52.059
That scares me. Yeah, there are some things that I really,
1180
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:53.940
really did not see coming.
1181
00:54:55.219 --> 00:55:01.050
Okay, last question then. Can you describe season three, Tell
1182
00:55:01.070 --> 00:55:02.550
Me Lies, in three words?
1183
00:55:03.969 --> 00:55:09.039
It's fucking chaotic. That's perfect. Fucking chaotic.
1184
00:55:09.059 --> 00:55:09.340
Bye.
1185
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.960
Dude, thank you so much for coming.
1186
00:55:11.980 --> 00:55:14.969
Thank you. This was so fun to meet you. You too.
1187
00:55:15.539 --> 00:55:17.780
I'm so excited to see what you continue to do.
1188
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:19.489
You're so talented.
1189
00:55:20.050 --> 00:55:23.110
You have so much, obviously, that's coming. And I'm just
1190
00:55:23.309 --> 00:55:25.469
a fan. So I'm really excited to watch your career.
1191
00:55:25.630 --> 00:55:27.289
I'm such a fan of you. I'm so happy we
1192
00:55:27.329 --> 00:55:27.989
got to do this.
1193
00:55:28.030 --> 00:55:29.210
This was really good. Thank you.
1194
00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:31.719
I'm like... It's so crazy.
1195
00:55:32.059 --> 00:55:32.469
You did it.
1196
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.139
You sat in the chair. I'm disassociating because I'm like,
1197
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.800
I've watched this so many times.
1198
00:55:37.860 --> 00:55:38.199
You did it.
1199
00:55:38.219 --> 00:55:39.360
It's so crazy. You did it.