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All right. We're back with another episode of Scheme Insiders
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going to be taking a little bit of a look
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ahead at the Indiana Hoosiers offense and what they might
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try to do against Ohio State's defense. And as I mentioned,
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joined by Michael Pettit of BuckeyeInsiders.com. And Michael, this is
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a very RPO heavy offense at times for Indiana. They
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have a really dangerous pair of wide receivers in Nick
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Marsh and Charlie Becker. So you really have to respect
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the P in the RPO. So let's start with a
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play where they're just running a hitch. So you're just
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running sort of a short route. Felt like the wind
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was a real factor for limiting the passing offense for
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Indiana against Nebraska last week.
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Yeah, I do think that's true.
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I mean, I've seen a lot of people talk about
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how Josh Hoover didn't look good against Nebraska. It was
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pretty windy, you know, and that matters as we've seen. Like,
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I don't know if anyone remembers the 2022 game that
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Ohio State played against Northwestern, but, you know, you couldn't
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blame C.J.
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Stroud that day.
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But, yeah, Indiana's offense in my admittedly, you know, I
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couldn't watch, not like I could watch every play they've
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ran this year, but I watched a good amount of
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their conference games. And my takeaway from their offense is
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that it's really RPO driven. I mean, both their passing
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game and their running game, really the RPO drives. One
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thing they like to do in the RPO game is
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they like to, you know, throw the quick hitches, quick reliefs,
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things like that. And sometimes at times, there are times
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where Josh Hoover doesn't read it right, in my opinion.
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And this is one of them, just an example of,
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Nebraska is in cover one here. So I'm not really
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sure why Josh Hoover made this read. I'm not trying
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to be too critical. Every quarterback makes wrong reads here
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and there. But yeah, Nebraska had some trouble or had
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some success shutting this down by just running man coverage
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and kind of being all over these little hitches that
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Indiana likes.
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To throw off their RPO action. And this is a
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good example.
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So you stop that by sitting on it. And then
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of course, there's always an answer. Everyone always has an answer.
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And the answer to that is a hitch and go.
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And this is one of these double moves that you'll
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see guys do where it feels like, okay, you got
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to protect the quarterback. But if you can protect the
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quarterback and you guess wrong, or you get a little
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too aggressive, they can really make you pay.
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Yeah. I got to be honest.
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I'm really happy that Indiana ran this against Nebraska and
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put it on film. So just to, you know, make
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Ohio State and their staff aware of it, that if
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you are just, if your plan is just to, you know,
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play man coverage and really sit on those hitch routes,
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Indiana has a constraint for that to catch you off guard.
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And that's what they do here. They connect with Charlie
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Becker for a big gain on this RPO hitch and
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go play. And so, you know, that's why I don't
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think it's as easy as just lining up and cover one. Again,
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Nebraska had some success. But as we said, it was
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a windy day. And also, like here, Indiana still had
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some success through the air.
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Next up, we're going to look at a couple of
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run plays. And man, Indiana really did not run the
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ball well against Nebraska. And as we keep saying, it
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was very windy. And that limits your passing attack, which
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then lets the defense sit on the run. So I guess,
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first of all, how much of Indiana's struggles on the
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ground do you chalk up to the fact that Nebraska
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was able to really kind of creep up to the
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line and be very, very aggressive in that run game.
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And then you can also walk us through it on
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this one where they're running duo.
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Yeah, so this is a duo RPO. They hand the
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ball off in this one. It's kind of interesting. Indiana
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runs a fair amount of duo, but they run it
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differently than most teams. So they run it from gun,
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whereas like Ohio State usually runs it from under center.
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But more importantly, when Indiana runs duo, they tend to
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have the running back opposite of the strong side of
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the formation, which is unusual. Usually if you're running duo
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from gun, you're going to have that running back to
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the same side of the offensive strength or like the
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tight end here, for example. But based on the blocking scheme,
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I'm saying there's always the debate inside zone versus duo.
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Some of them are pretty close. This is an example
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of one that's pretty close. I'm going to answer that.
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I think this is duo here. And the next play
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we look at will kind of show why I think that.
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But yeah, I think Nebraska, you know, being able to
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play aggressively, help versus the run. I think Nebraska is
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a good team too. I mean, I don't think, you know,
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having too much struggles in the run game is necessarily
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an indictment on Indiana because Indiana ran the ball very
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well against Northwestern, even though Northwestern, as far as I'm aware,
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is considered to have a pretty decent run defense.
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But yeah, this is just one of the other ways.
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Like I said, I think their offense is very RPO driven,
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whether it's through the air or on the ground.
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And they're going to run all sorts of RPOs.
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Like the last one we looked at on the hitch
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and go was a split zone RPO. This is a
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duo RPO. So they do mix it up a little bit.
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It's mostly zone and duo based. But yeah, I think that,
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you know, stopping the run is going to be just
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as important as it always is.
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Well, one of the other things they're going to have
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to try and stop is wind back. This one, we
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are going to wind it back a little bit. This
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was not last week. This is when they played Rutgers,
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but it is another run concept that I'm guessing the
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Buckeyes are going to have to prepare for this weekend.
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Yeah, so this is kind of why I think the
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last play was duo. Indiana runs a lot of lineback
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from shotgun. Also, they ran this a lot last year
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as well. And you'll kind of see that it's wind
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back because you'll see the receiver coming in motion. And
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the entire offensive line is, you know, they're double teaming hard,
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stepping to their left and trying to really drive Rutgers
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vertical and to the left. And that's the same action
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as duo. So I think Indiana, just to, you know,
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throw teams off, I think that they just kind of
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run duo and wind back with the back away from
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the offensive strength. Like here, they've got the two tight
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ends and the backs away. But yeah, this is a
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play that Indiana runs quite a bit. On this topic,
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this play is something that I've seen Indiana run on
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third and medium to third and long-ish at times. Not
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just this play, but just in general. Indiana is not
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shy to run the ball on third and six. If
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anyone can remember the national championship against Miami last year,
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I think they converted two or three third and six,
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third and sevens running the ball because Miami lined up
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in a blitz package formation. which kind of puts you
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out of position to defend the run. This is one
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of the plays they would often run when doing so
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in that situation. But yeah, Weinbach seems to be a
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pretty big staple of their offensive front game.
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And one thing that's not really a staple but could
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be a really, really impactful thing in small doses is
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the QB scramble. And that's something I think Ohio State
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fans have seen opponents pick up some critical plays with
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the QB scramble and kind of wanted their QB to
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do it. And they're finally getting more of that this
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year from Julian saying, but Josh Hoover, he feels like
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he brings a little bit more explosiveness to the potential
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QB scramble game. This is something, how, how do you
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expect Matt Patricia to try and defend against this?
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Well, in Matt Patricia's time at Ohio state being a little,
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hyperbolic here, but he's essentially never taken a single risk
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against an even moderately athletic quarterback. So I'm not expecting
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he's going to get too aggressive with Josh Hoover and
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the Indiana offense on Saturday. You know, like against Arch Manning,
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it was almost three-man rush zone coverage, sometimes even with
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a designated spy the entire time. I just don't see
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him being willing to gamble. Now, do I agree with
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that approach? on some level, like I get it. You
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don't want to just go out there and be crazy
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because that is reckless. And Josh Hoover is a good athlete.
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He will, he will hurt you with his legs if
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you give him the opportunity. But I think, you know, on, uh,
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obvious passing situations. Well, I don't know actually, because as
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I just said, Indiana is not afraid to run the
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ball in those situations. I do think essentially Matt Patricia
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needs to be more aggressive than he was against Texas,
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but I'm not necessarily asking for him to, uh, blitz
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every player or anything like that. Just, you know, try
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to strike the right balance. And I think that's going
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to be hard to do against this Indian offense. Again,
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Andrew Marsh and Charlie Becker are very, very good receivers.
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They're not just like solid guys. I mean, those are
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really good players. I think Josh Hoover is a little
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better than most people do. Most Ohio State fans seem
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to think at least. I don't think he's as good
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as Fernando Mendoza, but I think he's a solid quarterback
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and can definitely get in a rhythm and do good things.
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I think Indiana's running backs are not quite as good
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as the two guys they had last year in Kalen
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Black and Roman Hemby, but they're still very talented. I mean,
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I think both of Indiana's running backs would be playing
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a lot at Ohio State as well. So, all in all, yeah,
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I don't think this offense is quite as good as
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last year's. This is a really, really difficult task for
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the Buckeyes on Saturday. I mean, this offense is probably
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a more difficult task than Texas' offense, frankly, in my opinion.
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I do think that Texas' offensive line was probably better
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than Indiana's, but we'll see.
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I think it's a really... Really, really tough task for
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Ohio State. All right.
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Well, we will be there to cover that tough task
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for Ohio State on Saturday. Our whole team from Buckeye
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Hoosiers in Bloomington on Saturday. We will be there on
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will have some scheme breakdown as well. That is always
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