Full Transcript for Marshall

04:26.527 --> 04:27.467 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't see James. 04:27.527 --> 04:28.127 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 04:28.167 --> 04:29.908 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know what you do. 04:30.008 --> 04:32.169 [SPEAKER_03]: Ray was like, they got to be kind of like, I don't think. 04:32.189 --> 04:35.249 [SPEAKER_03]: I say, if like, if like, that's no, I don't think that's going to make it hard. 04:35.590 --> 04:38.410 [SPEAKER_03]: You, but you, you don't, you don't think that it that evil and charisma. 04:38.690 --> 04:40.031 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be able to find that together. 04:40.871 --> 04:47.413 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not that they won't be able to find it, but I don't think that person, we know that it exists yet. 04:47.473 --> 04:51.194 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think any of these Republican leaders so far. 04:52.014 --> 04:54.635 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, and look, I'll be honest, like my thing was, 04:55.950 --> 05:00.093 [SPEAKER_01]: and Trump is getting older, you know, he's got to die. 05:00.113 --> 05:02.234 [SPEAKER_01]: It's something for you. 05:02.895 --> 05:05.877 [SPEAKER_01]: Just human, just, you know, like human, like just human stuff. 05:05.917 --> 05:20.346 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so, you know, but, you know, I, and look, you know, we've had this precedent of presidents only serve two terms, big exception being FDR, 05:23.728 --> 05:24.108 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 05:24.188 --> 05:26.729 [SPEAKER_01]: I was always afraid that like Trump will do whatever it takes. 05:26.789 --> 05:31.291 [SPEAKER_01]: Take it mean like obviously we had January 6 and so I don't know. 05:31.331 --> 05:32.792 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like does he declare Marshall? 05:35.093 --> 05:37.474 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was embarrassing. 05:40.475 --> 05:41.696 [SPEAKER_02]: That was so embarrassing. 05:41.956 --> 05:42.536 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. 05:42.596 --> 05:47.898 [SPEAKER_03]: I said that was embarrassing and then turned to the turns side to side to do something. 05:47.918 --> 05:48.959 [SPEAKER_03]: That was. 05:52.513 --> 05:58.156 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I mean, it's possible to, you know, it's like it is a possibility you are, right? 05:58.296 --> 05:59.917 [SPEAKER_01]: Claire Marshall. 06:02.959 --> 06:03.499 [SPEAKER_03]: Good to go up. 06:03.539 --> 06:07.381 [SPEAKER_01]: You miss her now, because you to Claire Marshall, you know, he would miss pronounce it as the thing. 06:09.835 --> 06:10.896 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the same thing, right? 06:11.076 --> 06:14.298 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it like, it's a, it is kind of a, what do they call those hominums? 06:15.019 --> 06:19.022 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they're spelled differently, but the martial law, is that what you're trying to get? 06:19.042 --> 06:22.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because martial law is spelled differently, but it's, but it's sounds the same, martial. 06:24.866 --> 06:26.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's have the show. 06:27.228 --> 06:27.808 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, that was bad. 06:28.029 --> 06:29.550 [SPEAKER_02]: I go, that was a bad one. 06:29.570 --> 06:32.852 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a bad one. 06:32.892 --> 06:34.053 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a bad one. 06:34.393 --> 06:34.894 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a bad one. 06:35.274 --> 06:35.975 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the show? 06:46.043 --> 06:52.807 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to black men can't jump in Hollywood City Sam, did I ever tell you I only have one 07:12.867 --> 07:21.407 [SPEAKER_03]: That was the first that was the top of the scene why did they do that number of all the top of the scene the other one I was going to do was 07:23.813 --> 07:24.994 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you Sam. 07:30.436 --> 07:31.517 [SPEAKER_01]: He really let that. 07:31.557 --> 07:32.037 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he really did. 07:32.057 --> 07:32.837 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he really did. 07:32.857 --> 07:33.658 [SPEAKER_01]: You Sam. 07:34.678 --> 07:36.039 [SPEAKER_01]: And was this rated R? 07:36.079 --> 07:37.780 [SPEAKER_01]: Was that their only, was it PG there? 07:37.820 --> 07:38.260 [SPEAKER_01]: That was. 07:38.520 --> 07:39.361 [SPEAKER_01]: That was their only. 07:39.381 --> 07:41.041 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were like, oh, we're going to. 07:41.061 --> 07:42.142 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they think they want to do. 07:42.162 --> 07:43.403 [SPEAKER_01]: If you do their team moves, you get one. 07:44.663 --> 07:47.804 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, for those of you listening for the first time, uh, welcome. 07:47.824 --> 07:49.645 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for listening. 07:49.685 --> 07:51.526 [SPEAKER_01]: We are a film review podcast. 07:51.546 --> 07:53.206 [SPEAKER_01]: We review the films of leading black actors. 07:53.646 --> 07:56.167 [SPEAKER_01]: We talk about them in the context of race and diversity at Hollywood. 07:56.647 --> 08:10.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Three of us host this podcast voice you're listening to now, um, that honestly is sad that I don't think I'll ever play a famous black person in the lead. 08:13.028 --> 08:13.488 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not true. 08:13.728 --> 08:15.169 [SPEAKER_03]: You have to. 08:15.189 --> 08:16.909 [SPEAKER_03]: Why do you think it's too late? 08:17.949 --> 08:19.210 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not how you're like. 08:19.910 --> 08:28.672 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I'm holding out hope on the, I'm holding out hope on like, because they haven't technically made a notebook, I'm like, they made that young girl that like Michelle. 08:28.732 --> 08:33.533 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, you know, yeah, it's like, I'm holding out hope that you know, it's still possibility there. 08:34.033 --> 08:35.514 [SPEAKER_01]: But they have it anyway. 08:35.534 --> 08:36.334 [SPEAKER_01]: This is generally like, 08:38.029 --> 08:40.271 [SPEAKER_03]: They have Michael Ely playing Malcolm X. 08:40.391 --> 08:42.653 [SPEAKER_03]: He's older than the Malcolm X ever got to be. 08:42.953 --> 08:47.076 [SPEAKER_03]: So if I'm you, I wouldn't, don't count it out just yet. 08:47.397 --> 08:48.317 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm

not counting out just yet. 08:48.517 --> 08:49.258 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not counting out just yet. 08:49.278 --> 08:53.722 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a dude playing the dude from Snowforce playing a sunny list in on that same show. 08:54.262 --> 08:55.463 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, yeah, I don't know. 08:55.603 --> 09:03.730 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand, so I understand that back in the day people looked older, but I was like, do you know how old this man is in comparison to sunny list in? 09:04.090 --> 09:04.370 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess. 09:05.591 --> 09:13.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is crazy that you're all trying to make me believe this 50-something-year-old man is in his 20s. 09:13.738 --> 09:16.140 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you are lying in the bed right now, man. 09:16.180 --> 09:17.361 [SPEAKER_01]: Hollywood really be pushing it. 09:17.741 --> 09:19.803 [SPEAKER_02]: And then your main actor is in his 20s. 09:20.023 --> 09:21.724 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, why would you be doing it in his sense? 09:22.885 --> 09:27.349 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, but yeah, Brad, are you doing a British accent with yourself, tapes? 09:27.809 --> 09:28.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you do your sleep. 09:28.850 --> 09:29.230 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right. 09:29.330 --> 09:29.871 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I am. 09:30.031 --> 09:31.532 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you've got to actually do it. 09:31.572 --> 09:32.133 [SPEAKER_03]: I got to do that. 09:33.078 --> 09:33.278 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 09:33.358 --> 09:34.139 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, we joke. 09:34.559 --> 09:35.079 [SPEAKER_02]: We joke. 09:35.279 --> 09:36.600 [SPEAKER_02]: But no, it's a credit. 09:36.620 --> 09:37.280 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you working on it? 09:37.700 --> 09:38.581 [SPEAKER_02]: You're working on your son. 09:39.201 --> 09:40.141 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you've already done it. 09:40.161 --> 09:41.822 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the tape's a little above us. 09:41.842 --> 10:00.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah 10:02.323 --> 10:11.192 [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, I don't know what I was saying. 10:12.821 --> 10:13.982 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I was saying. 10:14.002 --> 10:19.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, you were saying something, but uh, anyway, we can get back to, oh, you're talking about British accents. 10:20.025 --> 10:20.965 [SPEAKER_03]: You were saying something. 10:21.725 --> 10:22.706 [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying something. 10:22.726 --> 10:24.287 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I was saying, man. 10:24.467 --> 10:26.007 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what

I was saying, man. 10:26.087 --> 10:27.488 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been a zombie, yes. 10:28.229 --> 10:31.130 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we were talking about British accents, and anyway, I introduced myself. 10:31.150 --> 10:32.230 [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Jonathan Braylock. 10:32.991 --> 10:33.831 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm draw a million. 10:34.432 --> 10:35.332 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm James Luther. 10:37.355 --> 10:38.736 [SPEAKER_01]: very well. 10:40.258 --> 10:45.463 [SPEAKER_01]: And today, we are reviewing the, what year did this film come out? 10:46.804 --> 10:50.188 [SPEAKER_02]: Yo, um, there's a lot of things. 10:50.268 --> 10:59.677 [SPEAKER_01]: 2017, 2017 film Marshall starring Chadwick Boseman, Josh Gad, who else we got in here. 11:02.246 --> 11:03.507 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a Josh yet. 11:03.847 --> 11:06.409 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a Sterling K-Brown. 11:06.430 --> 11:09.652 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Sterling K-Brown, Kate Hutsis, and Stephens. 11:10.333 --> 11:10.753 [SPEAKER_01]: James Kron. 11:10.773 --> 11:11.814 [SPEAKER_03]: This made me mad. 11:11.934 --> 11:20.221 [SPEAKER_03]: I will say it made me mad that the top like five actor of the top six actors too are black. 11:20.261 --> 11:21.342 [SPEAKER_03]: That just made me upset. 11:21.622 --> 11:23.604 [SPEAKER_03]: It just made me upset. 11:23.804 --> 11:24.404 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true. 11:25.205 --> 11:30.387 [SPEAKER_02]: They had a couple other camels, like, uh, uh, we're not close, but another guy I know he is in it. 11:30.447 --> 11:34.889 [SPEAKER_02]: He played, um, Roger, uh, yeah, Roger G Smith. 11:35.289 --> 11:39.770 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Mark played Mark played because he was, he was in a lot of movies in the 90s, Roger. 11:39.890 --> 11:40.230 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 11:40.851 --> 11:45.192 [SPEAKER_03]: And then Jesse Smell it's in it as, like, Yeah, my buddy was in the scene with him. 11:45.552 --> 11:49.374 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see the other, yeah, yeah, my buddy was the other life's can do it in it. 11:49.834 --> 11:49.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, 11:51.672 --> 11:52.372 [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot who he was playing. 11:52.392 --> 11:53.013 [SPEAKER_02]: He was playing as Miles. 11:53.033 --> 11:54.533 [SPEAKER_02]: It was Jesse some of that. 11:54.553 --> 11:55.554 [SPEAKER_02]: Was it August Wilson? 11:55.874 --> 11:56.814 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it was August Wilson. 11:56.974 --> 11:57.855 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go. 11:58.275 --> 11:59.555 [SPEAKER_02]: That's who that was. 11:59.575 --> 12:03.637 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, they call them August and I was like, I was like, I was like, that must be August Wilson. 12:07.138 --> 12:08.299 [SPEAKER_01]: writing your little plays. 12:09.919 --> 12:11.220 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, are you writing your little play? 12:11.280 --> 12:16.782 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the, I love the, I imagine this is based on reality. 12:16.882 --> 12:22.645 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the idea that like third martial looked down on links and he's for like writing a little poems. 12:24.048 --> 12:25.009 [SPEAKER_03]: so funny to me. 12:25.629 --> 12:27.451 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, what does that do? 12:28.331 --> 12:28.571 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 12:28.692 --> 12:28.932 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 12:29.772 --> 12:31.294 [SPEAKER_03]: No, wait, though, this was 41. 12:31.314 --> 12:33.535 [SPEAKER_01]: That couldn't have been Wilson. 12:33.675 --> 12:34.816 [SPEAKER_01]: It couldn't have been August. 12:34.856 --> 12:35.116 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 12:35.236 --> 12:36.137 [SPEAKER_01]: But he called him. 12:36.177 --> 12:37.338 [SPEAKER_01]: They called him August. 12:37.938 --> 12:38.299 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:38.639 --> 12:39.880 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, let's figure out. 12:39.900 --> 12:40.661 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was. 12:40.681 --> 12:42.122 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 12:42.162 --> 12:43.122 [SPEAKER_01]: Why, how old is August? 12:43.142 --> 12:44.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, how when was August? 12:44.664 --> 12:45.464 [SPEAKER_01]: He was 145. 12:46.285 --> 12:46.645 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 12:46.665 --> 12:47.646 [SPEAKER_01]: So then it, then it wouldn't 12:52.305 --> 13:06.483 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I did not really, you know, he's peace since passed away, but like we were, he was a modern American playwright for us, you know, like he was, he went like right now, apparently it was just Langston's boyfriend. 13:08.346 --> 13:08.486 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh. 13:09.419 --> 13:13.562 [SPEAKER_01]: That's that that's what he was cast as links and subboyfriend. 13:13.922 --> 13:14.423 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 13:14.623 --> 13:15.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 13:16.765 --> 13:20.607 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, anyway, this movie, if you're like, whoa, I don't know. 13:21.248 --> 13:24.230 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know they made a movie about third good Marshall. 13:24.710 --> 13:26.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, most of the world doesn't. 13:28.770 --> 13:30.091 [SPEAKER_01]: is when Chad was playing everybody. 13:30.771 --> 13:35.873 [SPEAKER_01]: It was made for it was made on a 12 billion $12 million billion dollar budget. 13:36.333 --> 13:43.016 [SPEAKER_01]: They were like give give the March 12 billion. 13:43.276 --> 13:48.338 [SPEAKER_01]: It only made $10 million domestically but internationally it grows $65,000. 13:50.580 --> 13:51.720 [SPEAKER_01]: 16, a lot of that. 13:51.941 --> 13:55.263 [SPEAKER_03]: But international, why do you say that? 13:55.543 --> 13:57.065 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry. 13:57.825 --> 13:59.687 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so bad. 14:00.207 --> 14:02.189 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, black lead, black history? 14:02.209 --> 14:02.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Get that out of here. 14:02.889 --> 14:04.591 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't care about that. 14:05.171 --> 14:05.651 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 14:06.292 --> 14:08.654 [SPEAKER_01]: This movie has an 80% shoot. 14:08.814 --> 14:09.174 [SPEAKER_01]: My bad. 14:09.194 --> 14:10.395 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to do the game. 14:10.435 --> 14:13.137 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, 80% around tomatoes. 14:13.778 --> 14:15.799 [SPEAKER_01]: You

want to guess, want to guess the audience score? 14:16.080 --> 14:16.800 [SPEAKER_01]: The popcorn here? 14:19.968 --> 14:21.991 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll say what was the what was the critics again? 14:22.011 --> 14:24.014 [SPEAKER_01]: 80 80 I'm gonna say 86 14:36.258 --> 14:41.101 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on with James, but all of a sudden, it was 84. 14:41.161 --> 14:41.501 [SPEAKER_03]: 84. 14:41.521 --> 14:42.542 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go, baby. 14:42.742 --> 14:46.564 [SPEAKER_01]: James, you used to be bad at this, and now he's absolutely excellent at it. 14:46.624 --> 14:47.385 [SPEAKER_02]: We swat. 14:47.625 --> 14:48.426 [SPEAKER_02]: How did you do this? 14:49.306 --> 14:50.327 [SPEAKER_02]: You took my eyes off. 14:50.427 --> 14:51.147 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 14:51.387 --> 14:51.868 [SPEAKER_01]: Excellent. 14:52.748 --> 14:53.168 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. 14:55.790 --> 14:56.190 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:57.611 --> 14:58.252 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 14:58.932 --> 15:00.233 [SPEAKER_01]: What else do I usually say? 15:00.253 --> 15:01.914 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a movie about Thurgood Marshall. 15:01.994 --> 15:03.275 [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know who Thurgood Marshall is, 15:04.416 --> 15:05.537 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you even listening to this podcast? 15:05.697 --> 15:05.857 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 15:06.057 --> 15:06.998 [SPEAKER_01]: Just kidding. 15:07.238 --> 15:07.919 [SPEAKER_02]: Just kidding. 15:09.320 --> 15:10.981 [SPEAKER_01]: They're a good Marshall. 15:11.281 --> 15:13.843 [SPEAKER_01]: First black African-American Supreme Court just this. 15:14.964 --> 15:26.072 [SPEAKER_01]: See, before that he was a lawyer who works for the NAACP winning many cases, the most famous of which was Brown, first the board of ed. 15:27.573 --> 15:30.936 [SPEAKER_01]: They said, this movie said, how about not that one, though? 15:31.576 --> 15:32.036 [SPEAKER_01]: How about? 15:33.696 --> 15:34.617 [SPEAKER_01]: We do this other one. 15:34.637 --> 15:37.139 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is my first person. 15:38.400 --> 15:58.338 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a person who, who, who, when it gets to, you know, the Supreme Court Supreme Court, and then like the local Supreme Court, and yet he did Brown, I was like, why do we pick the case where he didn't try it? 15:59.550 --> 16:00.770 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he tried it, but you know what I'm saying? 16:00.790 --> 16:04.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we pick the case when he was like, it's such a great question. 16:05.131 --> 16:10.033 [SPEAKER_01]: And perhaps that's what we'll figure out while we do this. 16:10.193 --> 16:12.953 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really have any clear answer for you. 16:15.794 --> 16:16.854 [SPEAKER_03]: Now we just get into it. 16:16.894 --> 16:22.356 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say it has to be because the lawyers that wrote the movie. 16:24.117 --> 16:26.480 [SPEAKER_03]: We're inspired by Josh Gad. 16:27.541 --> 16:30.044 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the real-life Josh Gad's character. 16:30.564 --> 16:31.765 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're like, okay, great. 16:31.785 --> 16:35.710 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's tell this, you know, this is our way into Thurgood Marshall. 16:36.371 --> 16:43.478 [SPEAKER_03]: If it like, if like somebody was like, we wanna make a Thurgood Marshall movie, they were like, oh, I at least know that one of them is a lawyer. 16:43.518 --> 16:44.439 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure about the. 16:45.163 --> 16:45.523 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see. 16:46.144 --> 16:50.926 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, you're saying that they're a good martial movie was inspired by the white. 16:51.486 --> 16:53.227 [SPEAKER_03]: I was saying that the right, I'm saying. 16:53.247 --> 17:02.573 [SPEAKER_03]: The white writers, that the white writers were moved or had a felt a connection to that. 17:02.933 --> 17:11.858 [SPEAKER_03]: And their way into telling the story was like, oh, we can talk about this, the way that they're good inspired, you know. 17:12.972 --> 17:30.403 [SPEAKER_03]: more than just, I don't know, I don't know what language I wanted to say, but I, but just seeing just now Googling that this man is literally a lawyer, a civil rights activist, civil rights activist, and in Connecticut, which is where the United States was, right? 17:30.763 --> 17:31.063 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 17:31.664 --> 17:34.546 [SPEAKER_03]: And is a, oh, I'm not actually sure about that. 17:34.586 --> 17:34.846 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 17:34.886 --> 17:35.106 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 17:35.586 --> 17:35.746 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 17:35.766 --> 17:35.926 [SPEAKER_03]: Um. 17:36.827 --> 17:37.447 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was. 17:37.928 --> 17:39.249 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, oh, yeah. 17:39.589 --> 17:41.230 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a renowned Connecticut litigator. 17:41.290 --> 17:41.490 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 17:43.911 --> 17:47.454 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, I, I, it's that to me. 17:48.134 --> 17:49.255 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see about the other writer. 17:49.395 --> 17:49.555 [SPEAKER_03]: There. 17:49.575 --> 17:50.896 [SPEAKER_02]: This is seemingly related. 17:51.876 --> 17:53.617 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we can get into it. 17:53.637 --> 17:55.439 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to get into here. 17:55.479 --> 18:00.882 [SPEAKER_02]: This, this is this, you know, okay, I don't go first. 18:06.200 --> 18:18.252 [SPEAKER_02]: You are respected just want to get that out the way he's the director for those of you who are yes creator static shot out you are respected house party respect it 18:20.993 --> 18:28.141 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, man, I struggle with these movies because when they all look the same, like don't visually, these movies look the exact same. 18:28.381 --> 18:28.641 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 18:28.682 --> 18:34.828 [SPEAKER_02]: They always have the same shots, the same kind of like cutesy music when something is like Oh, Jesus. 18:34.848 --> 18:39.073 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a march down the street because we, brother, we got to do it the future music. 18:39.433 --> 18:40.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought

the music was. 18:40.915 --> 18:42.136 [SPEAKER_01]: The music killed me, man. 18:42.156 --> 18:42.296 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 18:42.316 --> 18:42.896 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 18:43.357 --> 18:44.878 [SPEAKER_02]: We got the old man. 18:45.938 --> 18:52.783 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then, and then the bottom of me, my roommate was walking in American gangster recently. 18:53.643 --> 18:57.826 [SPEAKER_02]: And I forgot how quickly Russell Crow pops up in that movie. 18:58.446 --> 19:00.127 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it is like we see Dan Zell. 19:00.428 --> 19:04.490 [SPEAKER_02]: And you see Russell Crow as a, as a white dude who does the right thing. 19:04.510 --> 19:05.431 [SPEAKER_02]: And every time 19:06.508 --> 19:11.910 [SPEAKER_02]: Like for the first 30, 40 minutes, every time we see Denzel, Denzel is like doing shady business. 19:12.350 --> 19:16.592 [SPEAKER_02]: Every time we see Russell Crowe, he is trying to do the right thing. 19:16.652 --> 19:17.572 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the good cop. 19:17.932 --> 19:19.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, you killed this black crackhead. 19:19.913 --> 19:22.114 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we got to, we got to sit him up, we got to do the thing. 19:22.774 --> 19:24.175 [SPEAKER_02]: This movie opens. 19:25.222 --> 19:32.611 [SPEAKER_02]: with chat with both men and in less than two and a half and three minutes, it is fucking Josh Gadd immediately. 19:33.272 --> 19:41.822 [SPEAKER_02]: It is like the side by side and I'm like you're taking not only one of the most famous black lawyers but one of the most famous lawyers in American history. 19:42.783 --> 19:51.106 [SPEAKER_02]: and the case that we're trying and that we're following is the case with this black man has to teach the white dude who's never done it before. 19:51.806 --> 19:53.967 [SPEAKER_02]: How to be a lawyer for real. 19:53.987 --> 19:54.927 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a trial lawyer. 19:55.027 --> 19:56.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're watching him do it. 19:56.768 --> 19:58.368 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not even there at the end. 19:59.488 --> 20:01.029 [SPEAKER_02]: He's so many can he tell bro. 20:01.289 --> 20:04.190 [SPEAKER_02]: Before this movie starts he tells you how many cases he's tried. 20:04.550 --> 20:07.351 [SPEAKER_02]: He's beat the Supreme Court twice. 20:07.711 --> 20:08.471 [SPEAKER_02]: And we see it. 20:09.172 --> 20:09.932 [SPEAKER_02]: We see it. 20:10.838 --> 20:12.459 [SPEAKER_01]: He's one, yeah, one of the Supreme Court. 20:13.139 --> 20:13.559 [UNKNOWN]: He did it. 20:14.279 --> 20:15.300 [SPEAKER_02]: No, he beat him right. 20:15.420 --> 20:16.640 [SPEAKER_02]: He beat the Supreme Court. 20:17.260 --> 20:17.741 [SPEAKER_02]: That's wise. 20:17.761 --> 20:18.861 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take that club. 20:19.161 --> 20:20.682 [SPEAKER_02]: That club in the beginning of the movie. 20:20.702 --> 20:21.582 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he used. 20:21.922 --> 20:23.123 [SPEAKER_02]: He beat that bum ass. 20:23.423 --> 20:25.684 [SPEAKER_02]: He beat that bum ass local state Supreme Court. 20:25.924 --> 20:26.804 [SPEAKER_02]: So he was like, fuck it. 20:26.864 --> 20:29.005 [SPEAKER_02]: I'mma go to the big one and beat that ass too. 20:29.205 --> 20:30.285 [SPEAKER_02]: So he did it two, five. 20:30.986 --> 20:34.887 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, it's just why don't we do the loving case? 20:36.188 --> 20:36.828 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 20:38.862 --> 20:39.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what? 20:39.803 --> 20:41.425 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, and then, okay, this is my last fight. 20:41.445 --> 20:42.527 [SPEAKER_02]: This is my last fight, yeah. 20:42.747 --> 20:43.428 [SPEAKER_02]: This is my last fight. 20:43.928 --> 20:48.014 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when Josh Gag is, oh, sorry, this is the line, this is the line that killed me. 20:48.594 --> 20:49.335 [SPEAKER_02]: I ought to be grown. 20:49.355 --> 20:51.298 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what my roommate and his girl came out this morning. 20:51.398 --> 20:52.740 [SPEAKER_02]: At one point towards the end of the movie. 20:54.077 --> 20:58.918 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the evil lawyer goes, uh, the judge guy goes, uh, yeah. 20:59.558 --> 21:01.819 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, uh, I thought the Jews was supposed to be smart. 21:02.319 --> 21:03.519 [SPEAKER_02]: You sounded like the Negro. 21:04.359 --> 21:06.420 [SPEAKER_02]: And he stops and he smiles. 21:07.340 --> 21:08.660 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the nicest thing you've ever seen. 21:08.680 --> 21:09.020 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 21:09.520 --> 21:11.621 [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I, I, I, I. 21:13.741 --> 21:14.261 [SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah. 21:14.561 --> 21:15.101 [SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah. 21:15.121 --> 21:16.322 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good white guy right there. 21:17.182 --> 21:17.502 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 21:17.702 --> 21:17.962 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, 21:19.763 --> 21:21.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Because this is the thing, okay, to my last part. 21:21.263 --> 21:21.984 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the thing. 21:22.544 --> 21:25.345 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the same thing that he didn't figure is stuff. 21:25.385 --> 21:27.626 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the, we keep doing this in these movies. 21:27.866 --> 21:31.347 [SPEAKER_02]: It's always not understanding in the figures that the director was like, we needed a white person to do the right thing. 21:32.447 --> 21:36.649 [SPEAKER_02]: And now James should tell me this movie was inspired by, like, a white lawyer, and I'm like, had to be, had to be. 21:36.669 --> 21:37.049 [SPEAKER_02]: Had to be. 21:37.949 --> 21:40.190 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just, all right. 21:42.711 --> 21:44.591 [SPEAKER_02]: At least, at least, Chadwick was American. 21:45.211 --> 21:46.412 [SPEAKER_02]: So when, 21:47.613 --> 21:50.655 [SPEAKER_02]: We got to win there, because no one that doesn't happen. 21:50.936 --> 21:54.879 [SPEAKER_02]: So with all I do that was win free. 21:54.919 --> 21:57.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just not have a wiki article. 21:57.941 --> 22:04.386 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm wondering how real that person

is. 22:04.786 --> 22:06.988 [SPEAKER_03]: And freedman boy, you're waiting. 22:07.048 --> 22:07.308 [SPEAKER_03]: What? 22:08.474 --> 22:10.677 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, hold on, the trial of Justin and me now, I don't do this to me. 22:10.697 --> 22:12.198 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I'm just, I'm not doing any, I'm, I'm checking. 22:12.218 --> 22:14.040 [SPEAKER_01]: I, oh, I did, oh, I did was the chance he has to be a real team. 22:14.060 --> 22:15.021 [SPEAKER_03]: Sam and Freeman does it this, he does exist. 22:15.041 --> 22:29.678 [SPEAKER_03]: He just runs like this, he just runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he runs like this, he 22:30.037 --> 22:31.438 [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all know they'd be making these people up. 22:31.638 --> 22:53.610 [SPEAKER_02]: When you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, 22:55.218 --> 22:57.679 [SPEAKER_03]: He was there in the big case at the end. 22:57.839 --> 22:58.579 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's all. 22:58.619 --> 22:59.400 [SPEAKER_03]: I just wasn't sure. 22:59.540 --> 23:00.260 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know. 23:00.360 --> 23:02.261 [SPEAKER_03]: Now you gotta be thinking back to remember the Titans. 23:02.821 --> 23:06.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Why do we focus so much on the white coach who got like five? 23:06.862 --> 23:09.503 [SPEAKER_02]: Why was I caring about him and his little daughter talking shit? 23:10.343 --> 23:10.664 [SPEAKER_01]: Bro. 23:11.764 --> 23:12.604 [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all don't turn me up. 23:12.704 --> 23:13.104 [SPEAKER_02]: This is it. 23:13.224 --> 23:13.705 [SPEAKER_02]: Then we up. 23:13.865 --> 23:14.465 [SPEAKER_02]: We up now. 23:14.625 --> 23:15.285 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm waiting for this. 23:16.506 --> 23:16.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 23:19.946 --> 23:20.746 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, okay. 23:20.786 --> 23:22.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you want to go James? 23:22.327 --> 23:22.688 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 23:22.868 --> 23:27.171 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I, you know, the movies, I had my problems with it from the beginning. 23:27.371 --> 23:34.917 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw the opening card and saw the opening credits and saw that they were like big up and all the white people and I was like, oh, no, why is the movie about there? 23:35.197 --> 23:38.420 [SPEAKER_03]: I get that he's the guy who was the one guy trying all of the, 23:38.900 --> 23:39.701 [SPEAKER_03]: the black cases. 23:39.721 --> 23:43.224 [SPEAKER_03]: So like, you know, he's the guy that goes into the white spaces. 23:43.865 --> 23:46.807 [SPEAKER_03]: But I was like, why is that the movie that we're choosing to do? 23:46.827 --> 23:48.489 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was already mad from the beginning. 23:48.569 --> 23:50.531 [SPEAKER_03]: So it was kind of like frustrating for me. 23:50.551 --> 23:57.197 [SPEAKER_03]: And then like, you know, Kisha sharp pops up and, you know, people are popping up and like, oh, great, we could spend some more, we could have spent more time with any of these other people. 23:57.717 --> 24:02.081 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was, it's frustrating the, the rendering of this 24:03.427 --> 24:06.849 [SPEAKER_03]: from that sort of, from the storytelling element of that. 24:08.410 --> 24:14.254 [SPEAKER_03]: I did like, like, I like how they do the closing arguments. 24:14.455 --> 24:19.478 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I thought that that scene was nice in the kind of the way that that was set up. 24:19.578 --> 24:23.681 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the best way they could do that in a case like this. 24:25.082 --> 24:26.023 [SPEAKER_03]: But like in a sense. 24:26.703 --> 24:48.793 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's he's a magical Negro in his own story, you know, like it's not even it's not even exceptional Negro because he's like doing the he's telling it he's telling it and then we see Just get doing it's like the puppet master, you know, he's it's it's it's you know, it's beyond exceptional equals dip dips in two magical Negro in a way that's frustrating. 24:49.894 --> 24:51.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Then nigga appears in disappears James. 24:53.004 --> 24:53.565 [SPEAKER_02]: Think about it. 24:53.965 --> 24:54.505 [SPEAKER_02]: Think about it. 24:55.026 --> 25:00.570 [SPEAKER_02]: Do all those movie he appears gives this nigga some wisdom and that one point I got to move on to the next page. 25:01.971 --> 25:06.435 [SPEAKER_03]: Even when even that night when they both get beat up, he don't talk about how he got beat up at all. 25:06.495 --> 25:12.019 [SPEAKER_03]: He just shows up and it's like, he just shows up and it's like, what happened to your face? 25:13.821 --> 25:15.802 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're, you have views of fighting now. 25:15.982 --> 25:16.343 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right. 25:16.863 --> 25:17.903 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, that's not it. 25:18.003 --> 25:20.844 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember what you wanted to put it in front of us? 25:21.444 --> 25:21.904 [SPEAKER_02]: No, he does. 25:21.924 --> 25:23.405 [SPEAKER_02]: He goes, you want to bust now. 25:23.645 --> 25:24.585 [SPEAKER_02]: You know

what they say. 25:25.085 --> 25:26.666 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that's what he's alive. 25:26.986 --> 25:27.906 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what they say. 25:28.546 --> 25:30.827 [SPEAKER_02]: Up, when there's a federal him in the monkey, that's what it looked like. 25:30.867 --> 25:33.687 [SPEAKER_02]: Me, come on man, come on. 25:33.927 --> 25:35.168 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he had so many singers. 25:35.788 --> 25:36.148 [SPEAKER_02]: He did. 25:36.168 --> 25:36.908 [SPEAKER_02]: He had so many singers. 25:37.248 --> 25:40.849 [SPEAKER_03]: OK, and then I also just say this, because we were talking about colorism on the last episode. 25:43.954 --> 25:46.137 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he'll look nothing like they're good Marshall. 25:46.377 --> 25:49.921 [SPEAKER_03]: And not only does he look nothing like they're good Marshall. 25:50.021 --> 25:55.488 [SPEAKER_03]: Roger G Smith looks more like they're good Marshall than Chad Mac does. 25:55.588 --> 25:58.511 [SPEAKER_03]: And Roger's even a little bit darker than I think third. 25:59.052 --> 26:01.115 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the story of 26:03.186 --> 26:12.156 [SPEAKER_03]: of specifically light, skin, black lawyer, and being the main person that's able to do this, I think is interesting. 26:12.836 --> 26:22.046 [SPEAKER_03]: There's an interesting dynamic that's happening here that could have been explored, but is absent from the movie because of whose cast. 26:22.466 --> 26:24.589 [SPEAKER_03]: It also even potentially tells us different. 26:25.229 --> 26:32.931 [SPEAKER_03]: story because he's he's a dark skin man going into these into these spaces and so I'm just bringing it up because 26:34.573 --> 26:48.098 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, when it comes to these real historical figures, I do think that that's an important part of the narrative that I think, you know, I don't wanna take a roll the way from Chadwick, he was the go-to guy. 26:49.038 --> 26:58.322 [SPEAKER_03]: But also at the same time, it's, I think we gotta think about like, you know, like these, these stories aren't, it's not just, look at this black man, doing this thing, it's like, no, it was this, 26:58.902 --> 27:17.284 [SPEAKER_03]: It was this black man and he was doing what he was doing and he had everything that happened in his life that led to this and everything that will continue to happen in his life after that and it and it and the color of his skin does it affects it affects how people look at him it affects how people talk to him. 27:18.386 --> 27:24.593 [SPEAKER_03]: It affects the kinds of things people say to them, the kinds of slurs, the kinds of comments, the kinds of whatever. 27:25.414 --> 27:35.387 [SPEAKER_03]: And I do think that it's, there's something, not just missing, there's something different about the story when Thurgood looks like this. 27:37.463 --> 27:38.504 [SPEAKER_01]: that's all interesting. 27:38.564 --> 27:38.824 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:39.765 --> 27:40.285 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually agree. 27:40.506 --> 27:42.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:42.487 --> 27:47.211 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is weird that like not just not just the complexion of a skin, but just. 27:47.992 --> 27:51.655 [SPEAKER_01]: Shadow looks looks nothing like it's like they did. 27:52.155 --> 27:54.798 [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like they didn't even drop like they were just like whatever it doesn't matter. 27:55.178 --> 27:56.419 [SPEAKER_01]: And there does feel. 28:00.623 --> 28:01.623 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that 28:06.666 --> 28:30.266 [SPEAKER_01]: historical figure, but I do feel like for the bigger ones, they do try, like even if it doesn't exactly, they like do prosthetics, they do this, they do that, like haircuts or whatever, I just like felt this movie, I felt like they, they like couldn't be bothered, they're just like yeah, whatever, of course, they're like, nobody has got this, you got waves, you know, 28:35.772 --> 28:55.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just like, okay, um, but I think the thing for me that was look, I mean, there's, I was disappointed with this movie, uh, it look at the end of the day, is it watchable, of course, and like Chad and Josh are good actors, they had good, 28:56.927 --> 29:05.517 [SPEAKER_01]: chemistry together, you know, there are several good actors in this film, you know, the case is an interesting case, you know what I mean? 29:05.597 --> 29:10.102 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's a really scary case, but like 29:11.915 --> 29:17.239 [SPEAKER_01]: you know, the way that they told the story, like, you know, okay, great. 29:17.860 --> 29:21.943 [SPEAKER_01]: My thing is though, it was like, how is this the third good martial movie? 29:22.083 --> 29:40.097 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, yeah, and it felt like just knowing, now knowing that, knowing that this movie was written by two white men, is it look like maybe there are brothers? 29:42.898 --> 29:47.701 [SPEAKER_03]: Clearly wondering if it's even potentially father's son because father's son. 29:47.761 --> 29:51.743 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm definitely I'm not the same last name, but they have the same last name. 29:51.763 --> 30:06.532 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're related The fact that First of all, the fact that these are the people who were able to get like it's not even like this is like it's not like Martin Scorsese He was like I want to write a third kind of marsh movie and the in the Hollywood was like okay 30:07.356 --> 30:07.816 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sure. 30:08.016 --> 30:09.176 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you're Martin Scorsese. 30:09.196 --> 30:17.999 [SPEAKER_01]: So no, it was like these lawyers who presumably are not writers or don't know anything about the Hollywood industry. 30:18.179 --> 30:29.982 [SPEAKER_03]: Like they were able to get like, and also just say it looks like Jacob goes on to write a couple more things after this, but this is their their first thing and my code. 30:30.002 --> 30:30.602 [SPEAKER_03]: They get it. 30:31.562 --> 30:34.543 [SPEAKER_02]: Hot like sometimes I see

people get up and I think, 30:35.163 --> 30:41.944 [SPEAKER_02]: The last movie review, James, you kind of were hinting on like how that director got a chance to direct marijuana and I'm looking at this movie. 30:42.624 --> 30:50.726 [SPEAKER_02]: These, this black civil rights, the, again, one of the most famous lawyers in the history of America. 30:51.706 --> 30:58.267 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I used to go visit his house in DC when I grew up, like that's, that was one of the places we had to go visit was third good Marshall's house. 30:58.887 --> 31:01.588 [SPEAKER_02]: And like a black person didn't write this story. 31:01.688 --> 31:02.648 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, you know what I realized. 31:03.999 --> 31:05.840 [SPEAKER_02]: is that in here, I'll talk about it right now. 31:06.980 --> 31:16.644 [SPEAKER_02]: I realized that we cannot have, and I'm doing this comparison because this movie does the comparison. 31:17.384 --> 31:22.486 [SPEAKER_02]: This movie does the comparison between black people and Jewish people often, they got posters. 31:22.826 --> 31:26.507 [SPEAKER_02]: They openly compare in this movie a few times. 31:27.308 --> 31:30.349 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the reasons, maybe why 31:33.865 --> 31:42.973 [SPEAKER_02]: cutesy is because our villain, especially, especially knowing when he lived, our villain, our American wife. 31:43.533 --> 31:54.623 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think about these Oscar winning like films about like the Holocaust and things of that nature and it's like we can point a finger and be like, America's, we can be like, look with the fucked up thing these people did. 31:55.203 --> 32:00.268 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you are truly, truly to deal with racism in America, 32:00.948 --> 32:04.611 [SPEAKER_02]: we would have to point to someone famous as granddad. 32:04.971 --> 32:14.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the reason we would never probably ever get ahead in McDonald's movies is because notoriously the people who are awful to her were famous Hollywood actors and actresses. 32:15.280 --> 32:23.687 [SPEAKER_02]: People who are beloved, but they have notoriously in on TV said very vicious things about her, but I don't think Hollywood wants to do that. 32:23.767 --> 32:26.109 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we as Americans can sit with, 32:29.160 --> 32:34.123 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't sit with Eisenhower truly being a dick or like I can't sit with you though. 32:34.283 --> 32:54.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Who are white heroes are because they're totally okay with painting like some white like super races, you know, especially if they're Southern, you know, we love that kind of thing because it's like what it's like a clear cut like that's the bad white people and these are the good white people like we're cool with that, you know, I just ultimately I'm so 32:59.511 --> 33:17.597 [SPEAKER_01]: covered so little of of their good marshals career of his life like it was basically not about him like we we learned so little about him and then I also just looked up because I did the you know how they write those articles about what's what's real and what's not real and. 33:19.397 --> 33:19.797 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. 33:20.618 --> 33:29.187 [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, this whole, even though Josh gets lower was real, like, and this is actually an interesting thing to talk about. 33:29.867 --> 33:35.893 [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, the depiction of him was extremely unflattering. 33:36.393 --> 33:43.400 [SPEAKER_01]: The family really hated it because the idea that he was like this inexperienced 33:44.582 --> 33:54.856 [SPEAKER_01]: uh lawyer who had never done a trial who was just like told what to say by Thurgood Marshall that he didn't really want to take the case like none of that was true. 33:56.077 --> 34:01.100 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, none of it was like he took the cake. 34:01.140 --> 34:03.061 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he wasn't tricked into taking the case. 34:03.121 --> 34:06.243 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was like something that like he wanted. 34:06.583 --> 34:15.268 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what's so funny is I actually, even though I didn't know this for a fact, while watching the movie, I was like, this movie's not explaining why he's taking this case. 34:15.348 --> 34:17.870 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it actually made no sense. 34:18.390 --> 34:19.911 [SPEAKER_01]: And it rang super false. 34:20.571 --> 34:22.412 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was like so he's only taking this case 34:25.734 --> 34:42.225 [SPEAKER_01]: set him up for it like without asking and then like we never see a scene where he's like yelling at his brother about that and it was like even if he did that it was like why would he if he just if he was so scared about like what this would do is reputation whatever and like eventually they get into the storyline of like hey 34:42.745 --> 34:48.854 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, these are Jewish Americans in the 1940s, right? 34:48.874 --> 34:54.842 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Holocaust is happening or the beginnings of the Holocaust is happening. 34:55.343 --> 34:57.927 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, and of course, like, 34:58.487 --> 35:08.012 [SPEAKER_01]: There is a great legacy of Jewish Americans being on the front lines of the civil rights movement when it comes to white Americans helping. 35:09.093 --> 35:27.042 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's all that stuff is cool, but I was like, it was kind of like backpedaled into the movie as opposed to being the starting place, which made it weird and it was like, and because of that, it was like, I think the thing that disturbing the most about this movie. 35:28.417 --> 35:34.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Outside the context of the reality, you know, if this was just like movie and these were fake characters, I would just be like, yeah, that's fine. 35:34.661 --> 35:35.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean? 35:35.722 --> 35:36.222 [SPEAKER_01]: Like whatever. 35:36.582 --> 35:43.667 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, it's not, it's not, it's, it's one of the most famous, by the

end of this country. 35:43.687 --> 35:50.231 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, one of the most accomplished, like this dude, this man was on the Supreme Court just this in the 1960s. 35:50.271 --> 35:50.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Like. 35:52.853 --> 36:03.262 [SPEAKER_01]: He was winning cases in front of the Supreme Court in the 1940s and fifth, like, what, like, this man has a, like, has a couple of so much. 36:03.462 --> 36:07.306 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, this is, this is, this is the first movie about him. 36:07.466 --> 36:10.509 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this, like, it's only movie. 36:10.529 --> 36:11.089 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is. 36:11.249 --> 36:12.090 [SPEAKER_01]: It is the only movie. 36:12.210 --> 36:16.634 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm saying first in, in the hopes that another movie, a better movie will get made one day. 36:16.674 --> 36:19.597 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just, I just like, it's, it is so, 36:21.303 --> 36:24.405 [SPEAKER_01]: it felt so disturbing that they were like making this into a comedy. 36:24.966 --> 36:27.507 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why do you guys want this to be a comedy? 36:27.587 --> 36:28.388 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not funny. 36:28.788 --> 36:30.349 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, nothing about this is funny. 36:30.449 --> 36:31.650 [SPEAKER_01]: This is so serious. 36:31.870 --> 36:33.371 [SPEAKER_03]: They literally have a line. 36:33.732 --> 36:35.373 [SPEAKER_03]: That's like, why are you laughing? 36:35.413 --> 36:36.133 [SPEAKER_03]: A man's life. 36:36.193 --> 36:36.974 [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you laughing? 36:37.434 --> 36:43.939 [SPEAKER_03]: They put that in this movie that they deliberately made a comedy where there's like an Abbot and Costello phone conversation. 36:44.119 --> 36:47.962 [SPEAKER_03]: That the Abbot, like why did they do that? 36:48.462 --> 37:11.743 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot where, but there was a, I think it was just after something happened in this trial that was like pretty serious, like, oh, oh, like we're not doing and like, and like the next scene they were like, do we beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, 37:13.543 --> 37:15.344 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are we playing happy music right now? 37:15.784 --> 37:20.346 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a woman has accused the man of raping her and trying and attempting to kill her. 37:20.846 --> 37:23.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's everything about this is serious. 37:23.328 --> 37:24.608 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing about this is funny. 37:25.348 --> 37:26.849 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not even close to funny. 37:27.309 --> 37:32.312 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, there could always be moments of levity in dramas, but like they were trying to make, 37:34.479 --> 37:45.727 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you hated it with hidden figures draw and honestly rightfully so, but at the very least with hidden figures, it was like mistreatment of workers, you know what I mean? 37:46.167 --> 37:50.050 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, he made up with things. 37:50.630 --> 37:54.393 [SPEAKER_01]: At the very least it was like, they have to go to the bathroom over there and they're like, different. 37:54.793 --> 38:05.823 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's like, it's like, it's racism at work and it's not, it's not fun, but at least it's not like, hey, if you lose this trial, they're going to kill you. 38:06.304 --> 38:06.604 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 38:06.664 --> 38:10.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, the people behind is like, are they going to make it to the moon or not? 38:10.948 --> 38:12.109 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, okay, sure. 38:12.530 --> 38:18.955 [SPEAKER_03]: But this is like, this is literally like the lives of the life of this man. 38:19.016 --> 38:19.416 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 38:20.877 --> 38:25.683 [SPEAKER_02]: And the only one to me who was like, and again, Chad with both of me would never do no wrong. 38:25.703 --> 38:27.666 [SPEAKER_02]: So I like, I would never even talk about him. 38:27.686 --> 38:32.431 [SPEAKER_02]: But the person who is in the right movie is Sterling Cape Brown. 38:33.245 --> 38:51.634 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, from the very beginning, Sterling Cape Brown is playing this as a black dude who's life is on the line and of course, of course, Chadwick is doing the same, but like you guys have mentioned, he's got to, they've added all these like smirk and this nigga got more one liners than Arnold Schwarzenegger and like an 80s action film. 38:55.017 --> 39:02.180 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, what do you, I have, I have never, like, and I, and I, and I truly miss, I have never heard chat with both of them deliver so many jokes. 39:02.741 --> 39:06.803 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I'm like, outside of his SNL episode, I was like, what do we do? 39:06.823 --> 39:08.964 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's more jokes than like Panther. 39:09.424 --> 39:12.425 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Black Panther does, they're like, he doesn't do jokes. 39:13.646 --> 39:15.066 [SPEAKER_03]: The joke is he doesn't joke. 39:16.227 --> 39:19.909 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but the struggle is like, I think, in Bree, hinted at his, there's no, 39:20.982 --> 39:22.084 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no danger here. 39:22.685 --> 39:26.331 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the entire time I understand he's in the north, but again, I will always bring up. 39:26.752 --> 39:34.545 [SPEAKER_02]: Martin Luther King always talked about how the north at certain points were scaried in the south, because in Chadwick said something, Marshall said something in his movie light. 39:35.563 --> 39:45.972 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think this, the second day, or maybe the data, the trial

starts and all the races why people start coming out and like, um, Josh Gad is like, you're, you're, you're press Congress did all this. 39:45.992 --> 39:48.574 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, no, no, no, it's bringing everybody out so we can see them. 39:48.914 --> 39:50.676 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, get this has to be dangerous. 39:51.136 --> 40:15.529 [SPEAKER_02]: like you're at this house like where are you staying is no one threatening the house does the NAACP have people helping you are protecting you are like you got a little kids in this house you are a black man going to a bar just by yourself usually in these movies you have a guide like not a movie's been in real life he has a guide he has somebody from the town who is taking him around the safe places you just buy yourself bro like and I guess by yourself be Derek right 40:20.792 --> 40:22.413 [SPEAKER_02]: They never left the house, did they? 40:23.133 --> 40:32.516 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, they didn't, but I mean, I just mean, I guess probably in the context of this is that two that was, but it doesn't even feel that way, because they're not doing this thing you're talking about. 40:34.517 --> 40:36.798 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha, that makes sense, that makes sense, that makes sense, that makes sense. 40:38.258 --> 40:44.141 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, it seems to me too from this, from this article, and this is, uh, 40:46.584 --> 40:53.888 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting it from history versus Hollywood.com and they cite their sources for all their information. 40:53.988 --> 41:06.374 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it wasn't the judge didn't say like you're like, they're good Marshall, you're not allowed to speak that they wanted the that the NAACP is. 41:06.634 --> 41:13.258 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the NAACP wanted freedom and to argue the case because 41:14.354 --> 41:23.359 [SPEAKER_01]: they just believe that the white jury would respond better to a white lawyer, especially one from the area who knew the people there. 41:23.959 --> 41:27.421 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, and like, so which, 41:29.026 --> 41:30.307 [SPEAKER_01]: That's frustrating. 41:30.587 --> 41:32.609 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is like, why are we fit? 41:32.689 --> 41:36.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're commercial has done enough of incredible things. 41:36.173 --> 41:38.275 [SPEAKER_01]: Like why do you need to fabricate something? 41:38.395 --> 41:47.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, or you could even, it's like, it's, because made of honor really fucked me up because I love that movie so much and I was really trying to understand like why they changed so much. 41:47.963 --> 41:51.407 [SPEAKER_03]: And like, even just hearing that, it's like, okay, fine, they wanted to add, 41:51.927 --> 42:05.760 [SPEAKER_03]: some kind of drama some kind of tension there, but the drama could have been amongst the NAACP like, like, even if this didn't happen, yeah, it wouldn't have been the NAACP being like, we don't want Thurgood to do this and then Thurgood's like, let

me do, I've done x, y and z, and they're like, well, we got it. 42:05.820 --> 42:08.083 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it could have been anything, like, 42:08.623 --> 42:26.097 [SPEAKER_03]: we could have just shifted where the tension was coming from and still told the story of what ultimately happened, which is they want this white man to do this thing, you know, to try this case or whatever, it's so it's so 42:28.517 --> 42:53.414 [SPEAKER_03]: frustrating when like when the ingredients of what happened are all very interesting but then you know people trying to create drama go they're just like well uh here's my take wouldn't it be great if wouldn't it be great if this is silly wouldn't it be great if this is silly and everyone you can convince against things that happened actually happened 42:54.599 --> 43:13.104 [SPEAKER_01]: but then so was the judge not like an evil like was the judge not under touch I mean I'm sure that so apparently the like there were there were only two black people who were eligible to join the jury or who were part of the selection committee. 43:13.644 --> 43:19.106 [SPEAKER_01]: One was dismissed by the prosecutor lawyers they 43:20.311 --> 43:27.014 [SPEAKER_01]: they use one of their dismissals for that person, but it says that the judge dismissed the other person, which did we see that? 43:27.134 --> 43:28.135 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we see the judge? 43:28.195 --> 43:29.375 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were just the one. 43:29.395 --> 43:30.016 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw one. 43:30.036 --> 43:36.118 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was the one that the lawyers didn't they to dismiss or did the judge dismiss them? 43:36.399 --> 43:36.679 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 43:36.939 --> 43:39.840 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I know he actually made me, I'm actually not sure. 43:39.960 --> 43:42.421 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually not sure, but that one was dismissed. 43:43.202 --> 43:43.422 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 43:44.673 --> 43:56.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway, so I does seem like this look, but I think the thing that I would have liked a little bit more is like, I think James Kramo was trying to play this, but I don't know if the script gave him enough ability to. 43:57.059 --> 44:08.505 [SPEAKER_01]: What I would have liked to see is this white judge in the for me, my takeaway was, it just felt like the judge was racist and didn't like black people. 44:10.279 --> 44:14.540 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Lee and Lee racist, like was like, shut up boy, basically, you know. 44:16.000 --> 44:38.586 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of a white judge who hates the idea that he is racist and is trying to use like the courtroom and whatever to be like, I am not racist and also this is a fair courtroom and we're dismiss it like nothing here is wrong, right, that kind of thing. 44:40.326 --> 44:56.217 [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought that would have been a little bit more interesting, and I, I almost feel like James was actually trying to play that in his own way, but, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 44:57.273 --> 44:59.054 [SPEAKER_02]: the answer stands. 44:59.414 --> 45:00.174 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 45:00.955 --> 45:01.195 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 45:01.235 --> 45:12.800 [SPEAKER_03]: That one, and like, and sort of kind of begrudgingly, that the moment of, um, well, they got to look at the medical records now, you know, like, like that kind of moment was one of those. 45:12.820 --> 45:14.421 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there was maybe at least one more. 45:17.262 --> 45:17.542 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 45:18.503 --> 45:18.723 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, 45:21.255 --> 45:29.663 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the other thing about this movie that was so frustrating was because I felt like I couldn't trust the movie even before I knew all this stuff. 45:30.684 --> 45:33.027 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally was like, is this what Thurgood Marshall was like? 45:34.223 --> 45:38.326 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, was he, was he cracking, like it, like I really want to know. 45:38.346 --> 45:40.467 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, was he cracking jokes all the time? 45:40.487 --> 45:50.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, was that, was that what helped him to get through, like, how serious, like, in how much of a weight and responsibility he had? 45:50.974 --> 45:59.120 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I felt like this movie didn't explore any of the humanity of, of the, like, the thing that it decided to go with was like, 46:00.576 --> 46:18.351 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the fact that he was away from his wife, like, and it was, this is light, but like, he's away from his wife and his wife is having miscarriages, you know, which is, which is horrible, like it's just hard, bro, you know, but I felt like they barely, like they, like, they lightly kind of just dealt with that, but like not a lot. 46:18.671 --> 46:27.779 [SPEAKER_01]: And what they, what I feel like they didn't deal with at all was like, the way in responsibility that this man must feel being like the lawyer for the NAACP. 46:29.208 --> 46:30.949 [SPEAKER_03]: The cases never stopped. 46:31.669 --> 46:34.550 [SPEAKER_03]: One ended, the next one started. 46:35.010 --> 46:36.711 [SPEAKER_03]: This literally overlapped. 46:37.331 --> 46:41.513 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yes, we get the, I got some time, which was a nice moment. 46:42.053 --> 46:49.677 [SPEAKER_03]: But for what he's going through, they don't really deal with the reality of that at all. 46:50.577 --> 46:59.525 [SPEAKER_03]: The crushing way, you find out that your wife had another miscarriage

as reference by, oh, it didn't, you know, this is way worse than last time. 47:00.205 --> 47:02.587 [SPEAKER_03]: You are always on the road. 47:03.228 --> 47:18.061 [SPEAKER_03]: All of those sequences of like getting on a train and like needing to pick up the phone are so much more, there's so much more weight to even just those actions than what we see on screen. 47:18.661 --> 47:42.029 [SPEAKER_02]: He's also the first Black Supreme Court judge, he's the first Black Supreme Court judge who became a Supreme Court judge after going against them and my thing is there's so many, I don't understand why we continue to do this because again, I think it's the issue I didn't want to watch that 47:43.832 --> 47:50.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, uh, yaya and Mark Wahlberg movie is like, I didn't need to see, uh, you haven't trouble. 47:51.094 --> 47:56.075 [SPEAKER_02]: We about to get to, uh, uh, enforcer from, um, the mob to come help you out. 47:56.136 --> 47:59.877 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you watch that trailer, Mark Wahlberg, I'd de-read the reason I didn't want to watch it. 47:59.897 --> 48:02.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I was like, this, even if this happened, I'm like, fun. 48:02.297 --> 48:07.079 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you watch that trailer, Mark Wahlberg has the open and scene and the last scene in the trailer. 48:07.579 --> 48:07.979 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 48:08.059 --> 48:10.039 [SPEAKER_02]: In the, he's got all the lines in the trailer. 48:10.099 --> 48:12.060 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you know, I can't, like, I know what this is. 48:13.354 --> 48:18.197 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, I think it's truly because we, as Americans, I mean, not us as black Americans, we know. 48:18.697 --> 48:20.218 [SPEAKER_02]: But I keep thinking about these movies. 48:20.238 --> 48:33.846 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I've been watching, I've been watching marijuana, like I've been watching the American, um, uh, uh, gangsters, like if we were to have a movie set on an African American culture, our villains are modern day white people. 48:35.562 --> 48:35.922 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. 48:36.383 --> 48:37.564 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just straight up what it is. 48:37.604 --> 48:39.025 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it is just modern. 48:39.325 --> 48:41.628 [SPEAKER_02]: It is, I would think of as my mom turned 80. 48:41.748 --> 48:42.228 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm listening. 48:42.248 --> 48:48.874 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to ask more questions and learn because she's now one of the elders in my family. 48:48.914 --> 48:53.939 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, you grew up at a time where you started school segregated. 48:55.022 --> 49:01.223 [SPEAKER_02]: Like when you went to an integrative school, it was such a big deal that you didn't know how to handle it. 49:01.723 --> 49:08.505 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like the people who my mom talk about like who used to terrorize them is someone's grandparent. 49:09.205 --> 49:09.465 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 49:10.865 --> 49:15.346 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I was like, you know, her

mom, my grandmother couldn't go in certain places. 49:15.466 --> 49:21.027 [SPEAKER_02]: My stepfather definitely I can tell has 49:22.005 --> 49:41.908 [SPEAKER_02]: been bought up a certain kind of way because I can see when he reversed back to like a certain fear of whiteness and I'm like that man is 81 and the people literally we were going somewhere and he doesn't listen to the podcast like I said we were going somewhere and I was I was taking him in like a Walmart and must have my stepfather uses a wheelchair and like 49:43.051 --> 49:52.034 [SPEAKER_02]: We see another old white man like a older white man who looked a little bit older and there was like such and it went from I saw myself out of the go from like 49:53.817 --> 50:06.466 [SPEAKER_02]: like worry to like unease to fucking anger and he won't be yelling like he's just like a passive dude, but he'd be chilling and I realized this was a white guy who made his life hell in high school. 50:06.966 --> 50:09.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what the end word with the monkey by the block? 50:09.988 --> 50:16.072 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like all this kind of shit and I'm looking at him being pushed around by an equivalent of me. 50:17.173 --> 50:18.654 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I'm looking at him. 50:18.694 --> 50:32.145 [SPEAKER_02]: He got he got like a white like a white son who looks pretty peppy And like he didn't have one like he could eat the sun is clearly a liberal or whatever, but I'm looking at him push around a white dad Who probably low-key is still super racist, you know? 50:33.558 --> 50:34.758 [SPEAKER_02]: And we need to talk about it. 50:34.959 --> 50:35.859 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to talk about it. 50:35.879 --> 50:37.439 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll submit some movie about Donald Trump. 50:37.639 --> 50:39.880 [SPEAKER_02]: They need to say he put out nothing but racist. 50:40.140 --> 50:42.761 [SPEAKER_02]: Like there is a movie that I am crazy to say. 50:42.781 --> 50:53.085 [SPEAKER_02]: I watched one of our friends, Stormy Good, member of Kishiz Island, Colorado movie, was Sasha Barricone, the ILEG movie, and in that movie, there's a very long sequence about racist. 50:53.485 --> 51:10.359 [SPEAKER_02]: Right Americans that is so disgusting that is so real that is so honest that had to take me in cameras My roommate next to her was like, yeah, was this real and she goes a guy way worse than that She's like we see way worse than this sequence that we're talking about and that is modern That movie came out. 51:10.379 --> 51:11.920 [SPEAKER_02]: She's they filmed it to a year and a half ago 51:14.949 --> 51:21.532 [SPEAKER_02]: The point of these niggas, man, the little white girls who walked past that black girl and started doing monkey faces out of door. 51:21.632 --> 51:22.492 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just saw that. 51:22.592 --> 51:24.593 [SPEAKER_02]: Put their whole government names out there, bro. 51:24.613 --> 51:36.198 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we got to fuck that, cause I would tell

you this, if it was like in this movie when it shows, this white woman putting it at this black dude and said he assaults her, everybody came after this niggas, point these evil racist people out. 51:39.613 --> 51:40.394 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to do this. 51:40.674 --> 51:41.194 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the name? 51:42.155 --> 51:43.876 [SPEAKER_01]: So Sophie, can I get him? 51:44.036 --> 51:45.657 [SPEAKER_02]: Sophie, can I get him? 51:45.697 --> 51:47.598 [SPEAKER_03]: That would be great. 51:47.638 --> 51:48.359 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me know. 51:48.379 --> 51:49.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if you just, sorry. 51:50.100 --> 51:55.103 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to go up there so I was feeling like, just why don't we keep making and break you touched on it. 51:55.183 --> 51:55.743 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy. 51:57.044 --> 52:01.346 [SPEAKER_02]: The best thing about this movie, James, is Bray is not upset with the happy music. 52:01.447 --> 52:03.608 [SPEAKER_02]: So now that we go off. 52:03.668 --> 52:05.069 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a very, very, very many. 52:05.089 --> 52:06.890 [SPEAKER_03]: No, this is like, it's a lot of stuff. 52:08.348 --> 52:31.590 [SPEAKER_01]: This one, I don't know, it was, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, 52:32.591 --> 52:47.356 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, it's literally that is it, but I literally was like, first of all, I thought they were filmed horribly, they it looked so they're bad, it looked like a soap opera and then I literally was just saying like, 52:49.604 --> 53:03.069 [SPEAKER_01]: We're literally, you're showing, you're depicting sexual assault that we know didn't happen, but you're just showing us the audience, the image of a black man. 53:03.109 --> 53:12.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I literally was like, and you're doing this, if I felt, if I felt like this movie was like, 53:14.895 --> 53:28.365 [SPEAKER_01]: trying to be like, look, we're going to show you this because we want you to feel like you're in the, like, what these people are up against because what does this visceral, like, what does this imagery do for you viscerally seeing this 53:30.615 --> 53:35.319 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, tall, strong, black man, like, you know, be violent. 53:35.339 --> 53:37.380 [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually violent against this white woman. 53:37.401 --> 53:41.424 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, doesn't it make you feel, but it wasn't really doing that. 53:41.504 --> 53:47.529 [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of like, it was very much in like a murder she wrote or whatever, but you know what I mean? 53:47.549 --> 53:52.332 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are those like crime shows where they're like, hmm, and they're like imagining what happened, you know? 53:52.352 --> 53:54.154 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was just like, what the heck? 53:54.734 --> 53:56.856 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I hated that. 53:57.036 --> 53:57.596 [SPEAKER_01]: I hated that. 53:57.616 --> 53:57.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 53:59.718 --> 54:13.950 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was going to be more like that it was like, no, this is how third good puts it together and that we would see him changing elements as he because the first time we see it, it's when he's out there investigating. 54:14.351 --> 54:19.815 [SPEAKER_03]: So I thought there we were going to like see, oh, this is how his mind works, but then it was literally never that. 54:23.038 --> 54:27.863 [SPEAKER_03]: We only get the other side of the story when Sterling is telling the other side of the story. 54:27.923 --> 54:34.689 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even, it's not even like that third good starts putting that together first. 54:34.889 --> 54:36.130 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like he asked a player. 54:36.951 --> 54:40.734 [SPEAKER_03]: And that was, I couldn't believe that that wasn't the direction that they were going. 54:41.455 --> 54:46.779 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't even make sense to do it if not to do that to me. 54:51.885 --> 54:58.515 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was, I think that was the only other, yeah, I just like, man, this movie was so disappointed. 54:59.471 --> 55:00.852 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was, you know what it was? 55:00.992 --> 55:02.972 [SPEAKER_02]: It just wasn't for us. 55:03.073 --> 55:08.055 [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that's so sad about it is, is I truly do think Reggie Huttland is a really good director. 55:08.075 --> 55:09.175 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a... Yeah. 55:09.935 --> 55:12.917 [SPEAKER_02]: Howling and how's party is in the national film registry. 55:13.137 --> 55:15.618 [SPEAKER_02]: And probably some other stuff too that he's done, right? 55:16.958 --> 55:17.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 55:17.479 --> 55:22.821 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of those things to I think about him where it's like, yeah, I mean, outside of house party comics, like he's done so much. 55:22.861 --> 55:27.763 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just wonder like, in order to get these stories told, 55:29.340 --> 55:30.760 [SPEAKER_02]: What does the caveat to do it? 55:31.360 --> 55:35.241 [SPEAKER_02]: But because now I'm starting to seem like all of these movies feel the exact same, you know what I mean? 55:36.341 --> 55:41.102 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, from the cutesy music to a random focus on a white person out of nowhere. 55:41.262 --> 55:48.403 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, if you look at the IA and Mark Wahlberg movie, we are continuing to make them even today. 55:49.744 --> 55:50.584 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know how to. 55:51.524 --> 55:53.844 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe you can't pitch the movie without it again,

mate. 55:55.145 --> 55:55.965 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to make a movie 55:59.006 --> 56:00.487 [SPEAKER_02]: John Wayne was a piece of shit. 56:01.327 --> 56:05.428 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, hey, let's just, let's call it what it was. 56:05.688 --> 56:08.769 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, good luck making that. 56:08.849 --> 56:09.950 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's call it what it was. 56:10.030 --> 56:20.953 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is there a movie that depicted John Wayne, like, that he was in Blackface or when he was in, um, uh, native indigenous face, not as the central character, though, right? 56:20.973 --> 56:22.534 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, no, no, no, no. 56:22.954 --> 56:25.115 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I just thought there was a movie that showed. 56:26.510 --> 56:48.485 [SPEAKER_02]: or like like very just like for a bit for like a scene I don't remember what it was now if you if you if you if you love sorry I don't know why I have this fixation on how to be dance but then one day went through so much and I feel like if you look at some of them famous people we've looked at some of the famous people that seenipordia made movies with they were not kind to him 56:56.408 --> 56:57.809 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm talking about. 56:58.430 --> 56:59.030 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the one, right? 56:59.050 --> 57:18.445 [SPEAKER_02]: Or, or, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 57:22.268 --> 57:24.829 [SPEAKER_03]: Who do we have that's like that now that keeps coming back together? 57:25.129 --> 57:45.198 [SPEAKER_03]: That'd be like if it's not this, but that would be like if it was like Tina Fey and Amy Polar They just are It was like keep on but get your black ass and they just ruined it on the on the set of mean girls Tim Meadows receive the worst racism is ever 57:50.021 --> 57:51.462 [SPEAKER_03]: That would be what it was like though. 57:51.482 --> 57:55.143 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like it's I'm sure there's a better duo to say But it's like that though. 57:55.343 --> 58:14.569 [SPEAKER_03]: It's they were everywhere sponsored so that was Spencer Tracy and Right that's where it was right doesn't matter Yeah, I believe it was Unbelievable Is there anything else we need to talk about the only thing I want to have Yeah, we listen. 58:14.589 --> 58:15.829 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely 58:16.422 --> 58:18.988 [SPEAKER_03]: I love everybody, everybody black, that was involved in this. 58:20.311 --> 58:24.381 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that I just want to say that I had the timeline of. 58:25.329 --> 58:28.430 [SPEAKER_03]: Jacob Cascoff's writing wrong. 58:28.510 --> 58:30.050 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the last thing he wrote. 58:30.170 --> 58:32.870 [SPEAKER_03]: He wrote a couple things before this, including the McBeth. 58:33.370 --> 58:40.592 [SPEAKER_03]: When I saw McBeth, I just assumed it was the one that didn't sell bit later, but he did the one with fast bender. 58:40.812 --> 58:41.332 [SPEAKER_03]: That was it. 58:41.812 --> 58:45.813 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the Cascoff's have just in general been around like Sarah's an actor. 58:46.233 --> 58:47.993 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a sister and she's been around. 58:48.253 --> 58:49.333 [SPEAKER_03]: She's been in more stuff. 58:49.553 --> 58:50.973 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the family that made this, 58:54.494 --> 59:05.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that wrote the um, but again, I mean, I don't I don't I don't have the right anything else, no, so um so Jacob did 59:08.127 --> 59:11.289 [SPEAKER_03]: He has like four writing credits with this being his last one. 59:11.309 --> 59:13.591 [SPEAKER_03]: I said that this was his first one, but it's the opposite. 59:13.611 --> 59:14.992 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and there's something coming up. 59:15.032 --> 59:17.213 [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody called one heartbeat is in production. 59:17.233 --> 59:18.714 [SPEAKER_01]: What was, what were the three before this? 59:18.734 --> 59:21.716 [SPEAKER_03]: The other things are McBeth. 59:22.417 --> 59:24.658 [SPEAKER_03]: This is something called the Mark Please Experience. 59:25.239 --> 59:31.243 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he was a consultant on something called Love Liza, which has Philips. 59:31.263 --> 59:31.823 [SPEAKER_03]: McBeth. 59:32.844 --> 59:33.324 [SPEAKER_03]: McBeth. 59:34.785 --> 59:36.546 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, but it's the fact that. 59:38.010 --> 59:42.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is the, oh, it's the fast-bender one, the fast-bender one, yeah, got it. 59:43.521 --> 59:46.206 [SPEAKER_01]: So interesting. 59:47.945 --> 01:00:08.468 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, um, yeah, getting a credit for a Shakespeare writing a Shakespeare adapts adaptations like what like what did you really do you know many writers on this there Yes, that's like what did you really do exactly you know what I mean Anyway 01:00:10.743 --> 01:00:11.584 [SPEAKER_01]: So to support. 01:00:11.664 --> 01:00:12.645 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just disappointed. 01:00:12.925 --> 01:00:13.565 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just disappointed. 01:00:14.506 --> 01:00:16.188 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else, or show we get to? 01:00:16.208 --> 01:00:17.509 [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the calls. 01:00:17.529 --> 01:00:18.329 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing else. 01:00:18.429 --> 01:00:19.110 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 01:00:22.373 --> 01:00:23.213 [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the calls. 01:00:23.233 --> 01:00:27.637 [SPEAKER_01]: We rate review films not based on how much we like them. 01:00:28.317 --> 01:00:31.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, but whether or not they help the cause of leading black actors in Hollywood. 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.122 [SPEAKER_01]: If it feels like it fully helps the cause, we give it a

black fist. 01:00:34.182 --> 01:00:35.563 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone helped with my help with a palm. 01:00:35.903 --> 01:00:36.864 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't help the cause at all. 01:00:36.884 --> 01:00:37.705 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't give it anything. 01:00:38.898 --> 01:00:40.359 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really uncomfortable right now. 01:00:40.999 --> 01:00:43.341 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really, I'm really uncomfortable right now. 01:00:43.361 --> 01:00:45.182 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really deal with this. 01:00:45.202 --> 01:00:48.644 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really, I don't really want to participate in this part. 01:00:49.084 --> 01:00:49.905 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a second. 01:00:49.925 --> 01:00:53.507 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a third of my video off and then I'm a third of my video off and then I'm a third of my video. 01:00:55.488 --> 01:00:59.151 [SPEAKER_01]: One, two, three. 01:01:05.054 --> 01:01:06.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, are you deciding or you or you're gonna squeeze in my hands, I can't change it. 01:01:06.995 --> 01:01:22.903 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't change it, I can't change it, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down, okay, I'm double in down 01:01:23.663 --> 01:01:24.084 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing. 01:01:24.204 --> 01:01:26.906 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, not a single thing. 01:01:27.066 --> 01:01:29.768 [SPEAKER_02]: This movie perpetuates the stereo. 01:01:29.808 --> 01:01:31.989 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like that white people do the right thing. 01:01:32.469 --> 01:01:34.751 [SPEAKER_02]: In certain circumstances, it's not do not believe that to me. 01:01:34.771 --> 01:01:37.032 [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually true based on American history. 01:01:37.733 --> 01:01:40.795 [SPEAKER_02]: I do not think I think Chadwick Boseman is such a good actor. 01:01:40.895 --> 01:01:43.617 [SPEAKER_02]: I do think he was so under-service in this movie. 01:01:43.857 --> 01:01:44.998 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he had nothing to do. 01:01:45.298 --> 01:01:46.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he had to just smile. 01:01:47.225 --> 01:01:50.527 [SPEAKER_02]: at the Stone of Cape Brown was phenomenal, but we didn't get to see Sterling really do anything. 01:01:50.547 --> 01:01:54.648 [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't, outside of that one speech and I get to see him say, yeah, both and stuff like that. 01:01:54.688 --> 01:01:59.171 [SPEAKER_02]: And I hate every time I see a train black actor have to do that voice. 01:01:59.691 --> 01:02:02.332 [SPEAKER_02]: No, uh, and I get it. 01:02:02.472 --> 01:02:04.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Is the time they are Connecticut. 01:02:04.793 --> 01:02:05.815 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but he was from the south. 01:02:05.835 --> 01:02:06.616 [SPEAKER_02]: He was from the south. 01:02:06.636 --> 01:02:07.477 [SPEAKER_01]: He was from the south. 01:02:07.497 --> 01:02:07.858 [SPEAKER_02]: There enough. 01:02:07.878 --> 01:02:08.239 [SPEAKER_02]: There enough. 01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:12.205 [SPEAKER_03]: No, but they went away, but they he didn't do it the whole movie. 01:02:13.547 --> 01:02:13.867 [SPEAKER_03]: One. 01:02:13.887 --> 01:02:15.069 [SPEAKER_02]: So we hit the despeached. 01:02:15.109 --> 01:02:16.611 [SPEAKER_02]: We hit the despeached. 01:02:21.053 --> 01:02:26.719 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why she, I don't know why she, I don't know why she, I don't know why she do this to me. 01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:28.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. 01:02:28.201 --> 01:02:29.663 [SPEAKER_03]: I just felt like he didn't have to. 01:02:29.683 --> 01:02:31.825 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, where was the rest of the time? 01:02:31.845 --> 01:02:32.786 [SPEAKER_03]: He was talking. 01:02:32.866 --> 01:02:35.129 [SPEAKER_02]: Why didn't you see? 01:02:35.149 --> 01:02:36.250 [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't show up. 01:02:36.530 --> 01:02:39.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, okay, you're one of my favorite actors. 01:02:39.233 --> 01:02:40.575 [SPEAKER_02]: It just, it just killed me also. 01:02:42.382 --> 01:02:44.483 [SPEAKER_02]: I, and I, but I'm about to say I know it's true. 01:02:44.943 --> 01:02:55.529 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that in these circumstances, justice is not really served at like, literally, you know, as we take it from Emmett Till, the woman who accused him on her deathbed, admitted it, nothing happened to her. 01:02:55.750 --> 01:02:57.390 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if anything, her family took her in rest. 01:02:57.410 --> 01:02:58.511 [SPEAKER_03]: She died, couldn't her rest her. 01:02:59.332 --> 01:03:00.672 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I thought you took it before she could die. 01:03:01.273 --> 01:03:01.873 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh wait, really? 01:03:01.893 --> 01:03:03.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause then they try to, yeah, they tried to rest her. 01:03:04.354 --> 01:03:05.075 [SPEAKER_02]: And then like, okay. 01:03:05.927 --> 01:03:07.027 [SPEAKER_02]: The family moved to some shit. 01:03:08.608 --> 01:03:12.489 [SPEAKER_02]: She thought she was, the thing is apparently she admitted it when she thought she was about to die. 01:03:12.770 --> 01:03:13.930 [SPEAKER_02]: And then her ass didn't fucking die. 01:03:15.891 --> 01:03:18.472 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's hard because I don't know who this movie I don't think this movie helped Reggie. 01:03:19.432 --> 01:03:26.755 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe it, I guess maybe it helped Sterling because this is, I'm assuming around the, this is us period, right? 01:03:27.855 --> 01:03:28.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, 20, 17. 01:03:28.916 --> 01:03:31.677 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not starting to

say them, 10. 01:03:32.277 --> 01:03:34.798 [SPEAKER_01]: This is us, this is definitely up by then, right? 01:03:36.831 --> 01:03:37.831 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 2016. 01:03:37.871 --> 01:03:45.333 [SPEAKER_03]: So there would have been going on already, but this is the, this is the period of, of, of, of, Sterling Cays like kind of like rise. 01:03:45.453 --> 01:03:47.933 [SPEAKER_03]: It's his, you know, he's exploding period. 01:03:49.234 --> 01:03:51.254 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just sort of good to see him again. 01:03:51.274 --> 01:03:52.094 [SPEAKER_01]: It just had another thing. 01:03:52.714 --> 01:03:53.115 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:03:53.415 --> 01:03:53.935 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man. 01:03:54.155 --> 01:03:56.275 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I liked it. 01:03:57.375 --> 01:03:57.715 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 01:03:57.735 --> 01:03:58.476 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like this, guys. 01:03:58.516 --> 01:03:59.136 [SPEAKER_02]: It made me sad. 01:03:59.376 --> 01:03:59.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 01:03:59.896 --> 01:04:00.356 [SPEAKER_02]: It made me so sad. 01:04:00.376 --> 01:04:01.176 [SPEAKER_02]: I watched this on the bus. 01:04:02.036 --> 01:04:04.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Halfway on the bus and this older black lady looks at me. 01:04:05.495 --> 01:04:11.923 [SPEAKER_02]: And it goes right by the plan her video game to she's like a little person who would have known like she's well in her 80's she almost missed a bus. 01:04:11.943 --> 01:04:12.784 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to help her and 01:04:15.050 --> 01:04:17.751 [SPEAKER_02]: She looked at it, looked at me, and I was like, yeah, you know. 01:04:18.911 --> 01:04:20.132 [SPEAKER_02]: She probably didn't even know what it was. 01:04:20.532 --> 01:04:22.773 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was like, I said, I was like, oh, it's a third good martial movie. 01:04:23.433 --> 01:04:28.855 [SPEAKER_02]: When I'd say it is this old library looks at me and just like, goes back to her like video game on her phone. 01:04:28.895 --> 01:04:29.816 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's interesting. 01:04:30.296 --> 01:04:32.417 [SPEAKER_02]: She was like, that's a lot of white people in them. 01:04:32.457 --> 01:04:37.098 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because because she saw, she did see the courtroom. 01:04:37.118 --> 01:04:40.200 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, you barely see Chadwick and that courtroom scene. 01:04:44.081 --> 01:04:48.646 [SPEAKER_02]: talking to Kate Hudson, also why did Kate Hudson do this movie? 01:04:48.726 --> 01:04:49.627 [SPEAKER_01]: What I don't know. 01:04:49.647 --> 01:04:50.567 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 01:04:50.587 --> 01:04:50.928 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 01:04:51.889 --> 01:04:53.811 [SPEAKER_01]: What a thankless role, really. 01:04:54.071 --> 01:04:55.512 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't like a juicy part. 01:04:55.532 --> 01:04:56.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely wasn't. 01:04:57.714 --> 01:04:59.236 [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like I loved him. 01:04:59.536 --> 01:05:05.902 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to ask some give them a get like sterling, give me you tears at the end, but I know she spikes back. 01:05:06.183 --> 01:05:07.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Get her career at this point. 01:05:07.964 --> 01:05:08.445 [SPEAKER_01]: What was it? 01:05:09.114 --> 01:05:10.975 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true, but it's back now. 01:05:11.896 --> 01:05:13.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is what this is pre-written. 01:05:14.717 --> 01:05:15.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Her, I guess. 01:05:15.618 --> 01:05:18.660 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I guess, I mean, she's sort of always been. 01:05:18.680 --> 01:05:20.341 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 01:05:20.361 --> 01:05:29.066 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I gave it a poem for namely for Reggie Huddland to reconcile with something else and and Sterling and 01:05:30.541 --> 01:05:54.482 [SPEAKER_03]: Sterling and Chadwick, but I mean, you know, all of these actors, all every black actor in this crushed their role in a way that's like, yeah, like I'm glad that they get to work, but it doesn't get a full fist for all of these things that we've been saying, like I just think the rendering of this was off and like yeah, that does not, it doesn't promote more leading black actors to be like, isn't it great that in a story about their good 01:05:58.806 --> 01:06:02.815 [SPEAKER_03]: is sideline, like it doesn't make it, it doesn't make it a sense to do that. 01:06:02.895 --> 01:06:05.080 [SPEAKER_03]: So, just a poem. 01:06:05.481 --> 01:06:05.761 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, 01:06:07.120 --> 01:06:15.544 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's not even, it's not even like the movie was about Josh Gads character, but like he had, he definitely had the journey. 01:06:16.345 --> 01:06:18.506 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, right? 01:06:18.546 --> 01:06:27.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it, like, and it was a fake journey, according to his family, but he had the journey of being like, I don't want to do this to be like, I'm going to do this, you know. 01:06:28.491 --> 01:06:31.213 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really care about this to be like, I'm going to stick up for what's right. 01:06:31.613 --> 01:06:33.634 [SPEAKER_01]: And Thurgood Marshall was like, 01:06:36.542 --> 01:07:01.139 [SPEAKER_01]: there was no journey yeah he was there good martial yeah he was there good martial before the movie starts and then he's there martial after you know and it's just like okay he's really one of those cowboys that like comes with a title correct that's really what he was really yeah it looks like he was haven't had a game you know what almost eight this in case yeah is just 01:07:02.345 --> 01:07:08.751 [SPEAKER_03]: Drinking out of that white-sonally fountain and tossing the cook up on the ground. 01:07:08.831 --> 01:07:10.252 [SPEAKER_03]: I make my own laws. 01:07:12.694 --> 01:07:12.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:14.216 --> 01:07:14.536 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway. 01:07:15.597 --> 01:07:21.903 [SPEAKER_01]: So I also gave it a palm because I just feel like you have to acknowledge the fact that Chad. 01:07:23.307 --> 01:07:26.149 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

yeah, several of these movies, but then he became black dancers. 01:07:26.329 --> 01:07:27.349 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean, like. 01:07:27.930 --> 01:07:34.553 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other thing is, but I didn't give it a fist because I was like, it only made $10 million off of $12 million budget. 01:07:34.593 --> 01:07:36.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I feel like this is an opportunity. 01:07:36.654 --> 01:07:38.255 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this should be a Oscar. 01:07:38.455 --> 01:07:42.238 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this should be a type of movie that gets a bunch of Oscars or at least not patience. 01:07:42.498 --> 01:07:43.598 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, this was nothing. 01:07:44.219 --> 01:07:48.101 [SPEAKER_03]: So, it got a music, it got a music nomination. 01:07:48.721 --> 01:07:51.002 [SPEAKER_03]: The song that like made the main song. 01:07:51.022 --> 01:07:51.643 [SPEAKER_03]: You're joking. 01:07:52.243 --> 01:07:52.964 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not joking. 01:07:52.984 --> 01:07:53.684 [SPEAKER_03]: I am not a child. 01:07:53.704 --> 01:07:54.405 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:54.425 --> 01:07:55.145 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:55.165 --> 01:07:56.146 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:56.166 --> 01:07:56.787 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:56.827 --> 01:07:57.527 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:57.547 --> 01:07:58.188 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:58.228 --> 01:07:58.828 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:58.848 --> 01:07:59.509 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:07:59.529 --> 01:08:00.309 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:00.329 --> 01:08:01.070 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:01.090 --> 01:08:01.930 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:01.950 --> 01:08:02.731 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:02.771 --> 01:08:03.832 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:03.852 --> 01:08:04.572 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:04.592 --> 01:08:05.593 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:05.613 --> 01:08:06.294 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:06.314 --> 01:08:07.114 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:07.555 --> 01:08:08.255 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:08.335 --> 01:08:09.116 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:09.136 --> 01:08:10.137 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:10.157 --> 01:08:10.957 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:10.977 --> 01:08:11.878 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be a child. 01:08:13.865 --> 01:08:15.005 [SPEAKER_02]: for for best original. 01:08:15.045 --> 01:08:15.425 [SPEAKER_03]: Change. 01:08:15.485 --> 01:08:19.206 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just one of his the original song. 01:08:19.246 --> 01:08:20.367 [SPEAKER_03]: It's called Stand Up for Something. 01:08:20.387 --> 01:08:23.587 [SPEAKER_03]: It was

written by Common and Diane Warren and and on today. 01:08:23.667 --> 01:08:42.672 [SPEAKER_03]: And she's in and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and 01:08:44.883 --> 01:08:45.804 [SPEAKER_03]: She's in the movie, right? 01:08:45.844 --> 01:08:46.404 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's fine. 01:08:47.384 --> 01:08:49.045 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, it got in. 01:08:49.245 --> 01:08:50.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, James you're right. 01:08:50.746 --> 01:08:54.228 [SPEAKER_02]: She does the woman who played Audra Day is in this movie singing as Audra Day. 01:08:54.888 --> 01:08:57.290 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, she played who did she? 01:08:59.631 --> 01:09:02.292 [SPEAKER_03]: Billy Holiday is who she played a few years later. 01:09:02.472 --> 01:09:03.073 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sorry. 01:09:03.093 --> 01:09:04.293 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, a few years later. 01:09:04.833 --> 01:09:05.294 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right. 01:09:05.314 --> 01:09:05.494 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. 01:09:11.554 --> 01:09:14.175 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we thank you guys so much for listening. 01:09:16.997 --> 01:09:18.738 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man. 01:09:19.998 --> 01:09:20.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, the blue wave. 01:09:22.059 --> 01:09:23.680 [SPEAKER_03]: The blue, the blue, the blue, not me. 01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:24.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's be clear. 01:09:24.721 --> 01:09:25.721 [SPEAKER_03]: Blue, not me. 01:09:25.841 --> 01:09:26.662 [SPEAKER_03]: The whole map. 01:09:27.522 --> 01:09:27.962 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:09:29.563 --> 01:09:30.023 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 01:09:31.304 --> 01:09:35.746 [SPEAKER_01]: You can follow us at Blackburn podcast on Instagram, 01:09:40.285 --> 01:09:43.466 [SPEAKER_01]: We have links to our Patreon and our Red Circle. 01:09:44.206 --> 01:09:44.626 [SPEAKER_01]: Check that out. 01:09:44.646 --> 01:09:45.927 [SPEAKER_01]: It's only five dollars a month. 01:09:45.987 --> 01:09:48.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Bonus episodes every other week. 01:09:48.828 --> 01:09:52.128 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a lot of incredible film reviews on there. 01:09:55.689 --> 01:09:57.390 [SPEAKER_01]: You can follow me at John Braille, on Instagram. 01:09:57.410 --> 01:09:58.230 [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing for you. 01:09:58.290 --> 01:09:58.470 [SPEAKER_01]: Go. 01:09:58.490 --> 01:09:58.550 [SPEAKER_01]: Go. 01:09:58.570 --> 01:10:02.911 [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing for you. 01:10:02.931 --> 01:10:03.512 [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing for you. 01:10:03.692 --> 01:10:04.632 [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing for you. 01:10:04.672 --> 01:10:04.932 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess. 01:10:05.492 --> 01:10:06.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, never mind. 01:10:06.212 --> 01:10:06.813 [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing. 01:10:06.913 --> 01:10:07.533 [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead, guys. 01:10:09.033 --> 01:10:10.274 [SPEAKER_03]: You can follow me at james. 01:10:10.294 --> 01:10:11.174 [SPEAKER_03]: They're comedy, james. 01:10:11.194 --> 01:10:17.157 [SPEAKER_03]: They're comedy.com, but there's, you know, Aladdin is in comic shops. 01:10:19.357 --> 01:10:23.199 [SPEAKER_03]: I also, I, that's not even, I have nothing at all. 01:10:24.779 --> 01:10:28.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, um, I got nothing to do with it. 01:10:28.321 --> 01:10:30.462 [SPEAKER_02]: You can follow me at Rob Milligan on Twitter and Instagram. 01:10:33.232 --> 01:10:39.534 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I do something I'm forgetting but you know what y'all we just hit a living right now We're living in vibe and you know I mean you have a show enough. 01:10:40.135 --> 01:11:00.922 [SPEAKER_02]: I No, nope, I have no show coming up Producing the wild and outdoor so if you Check those titties check the cities are starting in LA than the bay is going all over is going to Mississippi is going to Texas We're going to Miami you got all the details, but this is only a maybe 01:11:02.782 --> 01:11:03.402 [SPEAKER_02]: What is the thing? 01:11:03.622 --> 01:11:07.823 [SPEAKER_02]: They've hit me so many times, but when I was like, hey, what are we doing? 01:11:07.963 --> 01:11:13.805 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody with radio silent, and I think like, okay, because it's so much happening now, it's like a mad dash. 01:11:14.405 --> 01:11:17.466 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, we're getting it. 01:11:17.486 --> 01:11:18.086 [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting it. 01:11:18.106 --> 01:11:19.286 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we've got to check it out, all right? 01:11:20.427 --> 01:11:20.667 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:11:21.087 --> 01:11:22.827 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, thank you all for listening. 01:11:22.867 --> 01:11:23.808 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you in two weeks. 01:11:24.028 --> 01:11:24.928 [SPEAKER_01]: Peace, please. 01:11:27.482 --> 01:11:29.103 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for watching.