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Heard all across the United States, Canada, and around the world.
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This is the Bible Answer Man broadcast with Hank Hanegraaff.
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Hank is president of the Christian Research Institute. At CRI,
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our desire is to equip you to not only defend
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the historic Christian faith, but become an apprentice of Jesus
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Christ because life and truth matter. To learn more or
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That's 888-7000-274. Or go to our website at equip.org. The
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following program was pre-recorded. And now, here's Hank Hanegraaff.
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Thank you very much, Randy. We'll go right to our callers.
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First up is Brett, listening in Austin, Texas.
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Hi, Brett.
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Hi, how are you?
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I'm good, how are you?
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I had a question about a man named Steve McVeigh,
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who is president of Grace Walk Ministries. I was just
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wondering if you've heard of him, and if you have
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any insight on him.
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Well, the criticism we have of his ministry is essentially
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centered around the fact that he believes that as a Christian,
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there is no necessity to confess your sin or to
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ask God for forgiveness. And we believe in a Christian worldview,
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this is something that Christians do. And the reason is,
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first of all, it's biblically driven. Secondly, if we don't
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confess our sins, we do not break our union with God,
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but we can hamper our communion with God. And so
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we are taught in Scripture to confess our sins knowing
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that He is faithful and just He will forgive us
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our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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All right.
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Yeah, I guess I didn't get that far in his
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book yet. There were some red flags that really, I
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was like, okay, that doesn't sound quite right. So I
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knew you'd have some insight on it, and I thank
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you for it.
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You get it.
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All right, thanks.
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Appreciate
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your call. We'll go back to the phone lines,
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talk to Rachel, listening in Raleigh, North Carolina. Hi, Rachel.
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Hi there, Hank. I'm a first-time caller, but I really
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enjoy your show. I have a question about the Old Testament.
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Some of the parts of the law, like especially in Leviticus,
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seem super logical and easy to understand, and some parts
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seem very difficult to put into practice these days. So
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how are we to interpret the Testament?
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Yeah, well, I mean, it's really important to understand that
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not all law is law, which is to say... that
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there are civil and ceremonial laws given in the Old
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Testament which are abrogated in the New Testament. For example,
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we do not have to assume today that the ceremonial
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law regarding shellfish applies to us. It doesn't. In fact,
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Jesus made that explicit when he said it's not what
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goes into a man's mouth and out through his body
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that defiles him. It is what proceeds from the heart.
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And then Mark adds the note, in saying this, Jesus
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declared all foods clean. So the point here is that
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civil and ceremonial laws have been abrogated, and the reason
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is Jesus Christ has fulfilled them. In fact, if you
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read the book of Hebrews, Hebrews makes plain that to
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go back to types and shadows, when the substance has come,
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is tantamount to trampling upon the sacred blood of Jesus Christ. Now,
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there are moral aspects of the law that apply today,
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which is to say we can say of certainty that
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the Ten Commandments apply today, even the commandment with regards
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to the Sabbath, which is to say that the Sabbath
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is now in celebration of the rest we have through
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Jesus Christ. And that's why the day has changed, but
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the cycle hasn't changed. So we work six days, we
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rest one in honor... of the rest that we find
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in Jesus Christ, who liberates us from bondage to sin
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and death through the power of his resurrection.
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Well, could you explain how to interpret something like women
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should cover their head or men should not cut their
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sideburns or you should not be homosexual? I mean, are
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those both the same?
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No, they're not the same. When we speak of homosexuality,
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we're talking about an enduring moral law. When we talk
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about certain aspects of the law, they are, for example,
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when we're told that we are to greet one another
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with a holy kiss, the principle there is a universal principle.
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The way in which that principle is expressed is not universal.
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The laws with respect to homosexuality, however, have never been abrogated.
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In other words, they're enduring moral laws, and they're laws
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that are made in the Old Testament and then repeated
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in the New Testament in such a way that we
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understand that Christ is ultimately setting parameters around our lives
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so that our joy might be complete. Which is to
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say that he has created us in such a way
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that we are to function in concert with his principles,
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and when we don't, we bear... the marks of that
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psychologically and physiologically as well. And that's why those laws
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have been set there in place for our protection.
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Okay.
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Well, this will definitely help me in my study.
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I appreciate it.
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You got it. Appreciate your call. I want to go
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back to the phone lines. Talk next to Tom. He's
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listening in Maryland. Hi, Tom.
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Hi.
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I appreciate you.
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Taking my call.
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I apologize for the question because I know it's one
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you've answered several times each week, and it's about the
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triune God. And no one's ever asked this question that
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I have heard. My question is, if it's God, Jesus,
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and the Holy Spirit are one, when Jesus was baptized
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by John, God came down and spoke and said, you know,
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this is my son who I'm well pleased. I'm just
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wondering how that happened, how that
kind of works into it.
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Well, I think it actually makes the point of the Trinity.
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There are three planks in the Trinitarian platform. The first
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is that there's only one God. And when we say
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there's only one God, we're talking about the nature or
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essence of God. The second plank of the Trinitarian platform
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is that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God.
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We are told the Father is God in Scripture, the
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Son is God in Scripture, the Holy Spirit is God
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in Scripture. But the third plank the Trinitarian platform makes
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clear that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are eternally distinct.
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So when the Father sends the Son, or the Father
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speaks from heaven during the baptism of Jesus Christ, we
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are seeing identity formed and completed on the basis of
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relationships within the Godhead. So the Father sends the Son,
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the Son prays to the Father, The son sends the
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counselor and so forth. So that's precisely what we have
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in Trinitarian doctrine, that there's one God revealed in three
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persons who are eternally distinct. Now, I've said this many
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times in the broadcast. That's not something that I comprehend.
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It's only something that I apprehend. That's what the Bible teaches.
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And because I'm not philosophically driven, I'm biblically driven, I
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bow my knee before God's revelation of himself to me. Now,
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the Bible is not in any sense asking us to
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believe a contradiction. If the Bible were to say in
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one place that there is only one God and another
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that there are three gods, that would be an obvious contradiction.
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That's not what is at play here. The Bible's saying
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there's one what, in terms of nature or essence, and
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three who's, in terms of relationships within the Godhead.
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Great, thank you.
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You got it. Appreciate your call. Back to the phone lines.
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Want to go to Heidi in Omaha, Nebraska.
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Hi, Heidi.
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Hi there, Hank.
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How are you?
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I'm good. How are you?
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Great.
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I'm excited to talk to you today.
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Thank you. Likewise.
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I'm hoping that you can answer a question for me
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that's been plaguing me for years. My question is from Genesis,
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where it talks about after Cain murders Abel, God places
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a mark on him and sends him out into the world,
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the mark with the purpose of protecting him from being persecuted.
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And then he marries and continues on with his life.
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My question is, where do these people come from and
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who does he marry?
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Well, remember that Cain and Abel lived at a time
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when people lived for long periods of time. Adam lived
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almost a thousand years. You think about a thousand years
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that sometimes goes over very quickly without us contemplating the
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fact that that's half the time between the time Christ
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walked the earth and now. So it's a long period
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of time to have children and for those children to
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have other children. When I think about myself, I have
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12 children, and in a few years, God knows how
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many grandkids we're going to have. The grandkids and great-grandkids
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are just going to multiply. But imagine living 1,000 years.
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You're going to have a lot of people, a tremendous
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proliferation that takes place. So there would have been many
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people alive at that time. The assumption that people make
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is that Cain and Abel, because they are the subjects
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and the emphasis that they're the only kids and that
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simply isn't correct. So Cain would have married a sister
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or a niece. And there was no problem with that
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early on in civilization because genetic imperfections only accumulated over time.
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So it was not a problem early on in the
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history of civilization.
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Interesting, interesting. Well, I certainly appreciate your information.
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You got it, Heidi, and I've actually answered that question
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in the Complete Bible Answer Book Collector's Edition, which is
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Hank Hanegraaff has dedicated his life to defending truth because
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truth matters. However, his life and ministry were radically transformed
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by another three-word phrase, life matters more. Truth matters because
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Christianity is rooted in history and evidence. Life matters more
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because it is the experience of union with God. The
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goal of Christian life is union with God. All attempts
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to understand Christianity from a solely rational perspective put us
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in danger of devolving into a transactional rather than transformational
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relationship with God. Truth Matters, Life Matters More will equip
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you to move beyond intellectually knowing about God to experientially
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Thank you very much, Randy. And back to the phone
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lines next to John in Dallas, Texas. Hi, John.
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Hi, Hank.
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Thanks for taking my call.
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You're welcome.
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I'm on a car phone. I hope you can hear
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me all right. My question is about John chapter 8
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and verse 30 through 32. And first, reading from the
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NIV in verse 30, it says, even as he spoke,
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many believed in him. And then in verse 31, to
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the Jews who believed him, Jesus said, if you hold
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to my teachings, you are really my disciples. So I
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recently heard a teaching that this This means that not
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everyone who believes is truly saved, that in order to
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be truly saved or to have assurance of our salvation,
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we need to demonstrate fruit in our lives. Now, while
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I don't really disagree with that, I'm not certain that
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this passage is teaching that. Can you shed any light
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on that?
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Yeah, I can. I hope you're not reading while you're driving.
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No, I'm memorized.
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Oh, good. Great, yeah. Well, that's commendable. And here's the
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point I want to emphasize here. In this passage, you
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have Pharisees saying
that Jesus is demon-possessed, and Jesus is
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pointing out that he could not possibly be demon-possessed because
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he does the work of the Father. So obviously, someone
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who is saying that Jesus Christ is demon-possessed is not
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a believer. And You have the explicit teaching of Christ
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in this passage where he says to the people who
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are claiming to be Abraham's descendants, he says, I know
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you are Abraham's descendants, yet you are ready to kill me.
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So this is a clear indication that the people to
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whom Jesus Christ is speaking are not genuine believers. Which
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underscores another reality, and that is not everyone who is
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descendant from Abraham is the seed of Abraham in the
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sense in which Jesus Christ is communicating. Abraham, in the
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words of Scripture, Paul is talking here in Galatians 3,
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only had one seed, and that seed is Jesus Christ.
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If you are in Christ, then you are the seed
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of Abraham and an heir according to the promise. Therefore,
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there are those who claim to be Jews and are not.
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They are a synagogue of Satan, as Jesus puts it
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elsewhere in the book of Revelation. So the point is,
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to be the seed of Abraham is not a genealogical construction.
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It's not about your ethnicity. It's about relationship, not race.
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What then does it mean in verse 30 when it says,
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many believed as he spoke? Is that a saving faith?
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Well, in verse 30, You have these words, Jesus in
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Prologue says, When you have lifted up the Son of Man,
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then you will know that I am the one I
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claim to be, and that I can do nothing on
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my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
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The one who sent me is with me. He has
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not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.
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Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him.
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So there are those that listen to what? Christ is saying,
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and genuinely believe. There are others who listen to what
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Christ is saying, and
instead of believing, consider him to
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be a false teacher.
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Okay, so then he's not necessarily addressing those exact same
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people in the next verse.
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The next verse, where it says, to the Jews who
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believed in him, Jesus says, if you hold to my teachings,
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you are really my disciples. then you will know the truth,
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and the truth will set you free. So those who
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genuinely believe are his disciples, and then they answer, we
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are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves to anyone.
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How can you say that we shall be set free.
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And Jesus replies, I tell you the truth, everyone who
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sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has
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no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs
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to it forever. So if the son sets you free,
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then you'll be free indeed. And then the verses that
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I quoted earlier, I know you are Abraham's descendants, yet
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you are ready to kill me. So again, there are
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those who continue as slaves to sin and those who
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genuinely believe, and you see the dichotomy here, between the
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two spelled out very clearly by Jesus Christ.
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Well, that's consistent with the teaching that I heard recently.
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So I appreciate your time on that, and I'll definitely
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drive safely and keep listening.
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Thank you. Appreciate your call. I want to go back
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to the phone lines and talk to Margaret in West Virginia. Hi, Margaret.
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I had a question. A Baptist minister that I've been
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listening to, among others, has preached for some time on
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once saved, always saved. And the logic that followed with that,
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this occurred to me and then I heard him preach on,
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is if a person was saved and they had in
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a moment of weakness, they took their own life, that
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they would still go to heaven. And all my growing
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up years, I was always told, you know, that was
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a straight ticket to hell if you committed suicide. No exceptions.
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And so I'm really confused on that.
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Well, it's not a straight ticket to hell, but let
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me say this. Someone who's a genuine believer dare not
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in any way take their own life, because taking their
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own life is the murder of oneself, and murder is
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condemned explicitly in Scripture, throughout the Scriptures, but very decidedly
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and specifically in the Ten Commandments. So one should never
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take the prerogative of life and death into their own hands.
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That's a prerogative of God alone.
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How does that fit in, though, with... That's what I thought,
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but how does that fit in with one saved, always saved?
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Well, what I'm pointing out, if you are a believer,
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you should never take God's prerogative into your own hands
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and then murder oneself. So it's unthinkable for a Christian
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to do such a thing. But in the prologue to
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your question, you said something. During a moment of weakness...
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Now I can define that a lot of different ways.
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Let's suppose that I did something irrational in a moment
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of weakness that is completely inconsistent with my Christian testimony.
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That does not disqualify me from heaven. Because what disqualifies
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you from heaven is a continuous, willful, ongoing rebellion. It's
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not an act, but a continuous action. So I'm saying
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two things. It is conceivable that someone commits suicide during
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an act of despondency when they're not in their right
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frame of mind, that does not preclude that they would
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go to heaven. That's not, as you pointed out in
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your question, an automatic ticket to hell. But having said that,
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the other side of the coin is it is inconceivable
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and inconsistent for a Christian to murder in general.
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Right, right. Okay, I see what you're saying. Well, thank
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you so much, because I really didn't know how to
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digest that one.
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I've laid that out in the complete Bible answer book
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collector's edition. And what I point out there is three
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sequential points. The first is that no single act is unforgivable,
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that the unforgivable sin is a continuous ongoing rejection of forgiveness.
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The second is that while suicide is not an unforgivable sin,
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those who take the sacred name of Christ upon their
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lips dare not contemplate it. And the third is, underscoring
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what I said earlier, which is the fact that suicide
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is the murder of oneself and as such is a
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direct violation of the Sixth Commandment. So it's a direct
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attack on the sovereignty of the very one who knit
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us together in our mother's womb. So it's inconceivable for
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a Christian to do that, at least a Christian in
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their right mind, but who knows? The one thing that
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we can say as a premise is that What disqualifies
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you from heaven is an ongoing, continuous rejection of the
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love and grace of God.
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Yeah, yeah, I get it. So you've got a complete
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Bible answer book?
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Yeah, it's called the Complete Bible Answer Book Collector's Edition.
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Okay, okay, that's good. All right, thank you. I appreciate
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this so much.
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You got it. Appreciate your call. Back to the phone lines,
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we'll talk to Jonathan next in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Hi, Jonathan.
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Yeah, hi, Hank. Thank you for taking my call.
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Pleasure.
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And I just wanted to also say that, you know,
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I travel a lot for work, so I really, really
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appreciate sermons and shows like yours.
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So thanks for that.
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Thank you.
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My question is, you know, due to personal experience, I
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am very familiar. I think I have a really good
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grasp on just how much the porn industry can poison
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the minds of the country. And my question is, what causes?
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as a Christian, what kind of actions can we take
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to really try to put a stop to it and
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try to tear down and stop and shut down these
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websites that are just making it go so rampant and wild?
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Yeah, we've got to do everything that's permissible to do that,
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but recognize that ultimately pagans are going to exercise their
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job description. They're going to be pagans. The real issue
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now becomes Christians exercising their job description. As people's hearts
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are changed, their behavioral patterns are are changed as well.
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So ultimately the way that you become salt and light,
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the way that you redeem a culture is by changing
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the hearts of people within a culture and that ultimately
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changes the fabric of the culture itself. The problem, the
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systemic problem is that Christians unfortunately today are more a
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microcosm of the culture than a change agent in the
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culture and as a result of that our culture isn't
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being transformed, we are being conformed by the culture as
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Paul talks about in Romans chapter 12. Thanks for tuning
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