Full Transcript for Spider-Man’s Box Office Shockwave: Why Audiences Still Show Up

00:04:59.360 I like to be, you know, within touching distance potentially of Endgame's box office record is madness. 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:11.519 Like, um, and I do think To overtake Endgame as the biggest opening weekend domestically was insane because you don't you're not relying on word of mouth then. 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:16.800 You're relying on people being excited about what's gonna be delivered. 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:17.199 Yeah. 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.439 And uh excited about the marketing and excited about the the the film. 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:27.199 So, you know, Marvel haven't managed to do that with any of the other films. 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:32.879 Like Fantastic Four had an amazing cast, looked like it was gonna be cool, didn't do that great. 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.920 Um, Thunderbolts, no one cared. 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:38.240 New Captain America, no one cared. 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.519 Like you say, Spider-Man, people care and people turn up for. 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.199 Um, but this was I mean, people really turned up. 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.000 It was, you know, mad. 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.600 I know I've I've seen it and I thought it was okay. 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:50.399 I thought it was decent. 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:52.480 It was a it was a fun superhero movie. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.720 I don't think it did anything particularly special. 00:05:54.959 --> 00:06:08.720 Um, I don't I think I think the kind of the the him not remembering Zendaya, the him not remembering his his friends was kind of interesting, but they kind of dealt with that quite. 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.759 I I I feel like that could have maybe gone on a bit more. 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:18.879 They could have done so I feel like they could have done something more interesting with that, but they kind of were like, no, we just we just need to get them back together as quickly as we can. 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:27.839 Um I was slightly worried because there was some there was some Marvel sort of quality CGI early in the film, and I was like, please let's not have too much of this. 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.480 And I don't think it did uh went overly heavy uh with that stuff. 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:51.040 Um interesting that it's a sort of Spider-Man movie, and I think it's interesting, isn't it, that Batman's the next biggest superhero to Spider-Man, but they're very, very different in terms of Batman is this angst-ridden, sort of dark, anti-hero-esque superhero. 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:52.639 He's a brooding sort of thing. 00:06:52.720 --> 00:07:02.639 Whereas Spider-Man is your sort of likable, um, quirky, happy chappy, yeah. 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.240 Superhero, cocky, like um flippant. 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:09.680 And the first half of this film, he's a bit more Batman. 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:18.160 He's very brooding in his tech world and getting all upset and going out and just being the vigilante constant, constant, constant. 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:23.360 Um, so you sort of miss a bit of the fun Spider-Man early in the film, which you know is kind of interesting. 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:33.120 Um but yeah, I don't think it did anything for me that would rise it that this far above the previous Spider-Man film I've seen. 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:34.399 Well, no, I completely agree. 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:42.879 Like again, I'm I've really enjoyed this movie, and I'm I don't want to talk it down, but I do think that it's like it's it I really I've enjoyed the Tom Holland. 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.519 I don't think there is Tom Holland's made a bad Spider-Man movie. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:51.600 Like you can argue about No Way Home and whether it's a bit too reliant on fan service, but I still think it works. 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:58.480 I think like this is on a level to me for me with Homecoming, um, you know, the first Spider-Man movie he made, which I thought was really good. 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:17.680 Like, and I think people are like underestimating quite how like that has one of the best moments in superhero movies when the vultures sat at um, you know, the he's driving Peter and his date to the homecoming, and all of a sudden he clocks Peter Parker is Spider-Man, and that's just that line, good old Spider-Man. 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.160 Like, it's genuinely quite creepy. 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:28.639 And I think this film's on a level with that, so I don't quite understand why everyone's lost their minds about this. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.360 I do think Marvel was really clever. 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.120 Uh Marvel and Sony were really clever in the way they marketed this. 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:42.399 And like they they put out these trailers that sort of hinted, like they never confirmed who the villain was. 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:46.480 You know, they they had Sadie Sink and they never said she is playing Gene Grey. 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:54.799 It, you know, it was in certain people at certain corners of the internet knew, but for the most part, you had no idea who the villain was, which I do think was a draw. 00:08:55.039 --> 00:09:01.120 They implied that we get to see a lot, you know, they had Scorpion in the trailer, boomerang, tarantula. 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.639 Like they had they implied it was going to be bigger than perhaps it ended up being. 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:14.159 I do think the the the tease of Peter turning into something, you know, in the trailers, we kept on seeing him with the black eyes and the you know, you're changing. 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:22.960 I do think there were they were sort of people may have gone to the theatre expecting something that was never gonna happen in a Disney film, let's be completely honest. 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:28.080 We were never going to get the fly meets Spider-Man as much as fans might have wanted it. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:32.960 But ultimately, I do think the reason

why this film worked is it's just genuine, it's just really well made. 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:41.039 Like um, I went to see it at the press screening, and then, as I say, a few days later, they had I went to a general audience screening, and people were just having a great time. 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.759 Like, you know, like it's nice to see people engaging with the, you know, with with the film. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:52.480 They were clapping, they were cheering, they were behaving very American, if you don't mind me saying, uh, to be completely honest. 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.240 Um not allowed in a cinema, sorry. 00:09:54.639 --> 00:10:02.480 You know, there was a woman beside me who kept pointing at the screen every like two minutes, and I was like, I'd more power to you because you're not talking. 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:07.759 So but um so clearly it just clicked with people in a way I don't necessarily understand. 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.799 Yeah, no, I mean, like I say, I I enjoyed it. 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:14.799 I think it was it didn't feel like it's two-hour, 40-minute runtime. 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.600 It um it sort of moved her at a decent pace. 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:19.039 Um it was a nice film. 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.720 I mean, Florence Pugh was phoning it in in that bathtub. 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.000 She was thought, no, I like Florence Pugh in the city. 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:28.480 She was phoning that in. 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:30.960 No, big potato, small potato. 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:31.600 It was good. 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:32.960 She was phoning that in. 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:33.679 Oh my days. 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:38.080 I mean, I've not seen any of the other stuff she's in where she's doing this absolutely god-awful Russian accent. 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:40.799 But that's that's that's basically the character. 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:42.639 That's the character. 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:43.360 Absolute. 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.080 I mean, she she had to put in zero effort and gave zero shits about doing that. 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:58.480 I can tell it just it just yeah, I'm here because I have to be that like yeah, it would be I've I found it amusing, but um but yes. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:05.919 I that but for me, that stuff I don't care about because I'm not I'm not bought into the wider world of Marvel. 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.159 So it works as a standalone film. 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:17.519 I think the fact it's had such staying power after um such a big opening weekend, is it is obviously showing people are re-watching it, people are telling other people to go and see it. 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:22.879 There is pretty much nothing else out now for a while, so it's kind of got the multiplexes to themselves. 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:29.120 And you've got to remember it's done this, it's done this big a box office without premium format. 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:34.720 Yeah, Nox had the IMAXs

because Nolan's got all the IMAXs still. 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:48.080 I wonder if there Kevin Feig is currently sat in meetings discussing the fact that they have no IMAX screens for Dune 3 either, when Doomsday comes out, and whether they're thinking, right, how can we replicate this? 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:51.279 Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's it it's mad. 00:11:51.360 --> 00:12:00.159 I'm assuming maybe it'll get another kick at the box office when it when it does hit IMAX and some people who've seen it go back to to experience it in IMAX. 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.679 I mean, you gotta you gotta imagine it could happen. 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.279 So yeah, no, I it it it's okay as a film. 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.759 I mean it's No, it's better than okay. 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.080 It's it's still like No, I don't know if it is. 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:16.399 It's uh for what it is, it's good enough, I suppose. 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.720 No, it's it's a Spider-Man movie. 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.080 Like, you know, it's I think it's I think it's up there. 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.159 I think it's possibly a top three Spider-Man movie. 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:30.639 I think uh not outside the animated ones, because obviously the Spider-Verse movies are a d just their own beast entirely. 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:36.399 But I think like, you know, it you could mention it in the same breath as Spider-Man 2, Homecoming, and this. 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.600 And I wouldn't be like, wow, that person has terrible opinions. 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:52.080 But again, I think that's out i i it's the testament to the to the character of Spider-Man that you can have the live-action Spider-Man movies, and then you can have the Spider-Verse movies as well, and they all do amazingly well. 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:52.799 Yeah. 00:12:53.120 --> 00:13:00.720 Um But the same with Batman, you've got Robert Pattinson's Batman, and then you've got The Joker, the first one, which was decent. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:08.000 Um and then you've got what will be the MC the DCU Batman films, which I'm sure will also do well. 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:09.759 If we ever get there. 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:11.840 If we ever get there. 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:22.960 Um because as we say, that Supergirl box office, I think, may be drawing question marks over um James Gunn's tenure as the head of DC of DC. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.440 It'll be interesting to see how Clayface does. 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:27.360 It would be interesting to see how Clayface does. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:28.080 But Clayface is. 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.879 I think on a 70 million budget. 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.840 So it doesn't need and it's got directed by Mike. 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.919 Is the Mike Flanagan writer or director? 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:39.440 I can't remember now off the top of my head. 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.600 It's James James Watkins is directing. 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:42.559 Right, okay. 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.320 Uh, you know, I'm like screenplay Mike Flanagan. 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:47.039 That's it. 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:51.919 I'm very optimistic for Clayface, based uh mainly on the fact that it didn't cost a lot to make. 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.320 Um even if it doesn't do well, Neil, we need to support it because it was filmed partly in Manchester. 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:56.720 So, you know. 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.080 Well I'll be going to see Clayface. 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.679 I think it looks it looks exactly what I kind of want from DC. 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.440 I want that I want the Penguin TV series. 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.480 I want I want Matt Reeves Batman. 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.519 I want something completely opposite to Marvel. 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.080 I want the darker, grittier stuff. 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:19.360 I don't want Schneider's version of darker and grittier, which is literally just darker colour. 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.440 What if Superman was Jesus? 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.679 That would be a really clever allegory, wouldn't it? 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:24.399 Yeah. 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.720 Yeah, I'm I Yeah, I mean I don't blame Henry Cavill. 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.440 I liked I didn't mind the Henry Cavill um Superman. 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.679 I didn't like the second half of Man of Steel because it was just a big smash 'em up for far too long. 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:36.000 Yeah. 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:46.480 Um But generally, I like I I'd be interested to see why well, I'm interested to see this one because they're kind of a slightly different take on that whole genre. 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:53.919 Whereas I think DC tries often too often to just sort of lean in and copy what Marvel have done rather than doing their own thing. 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.000 And you're always gonna fail because you're not Marvel, your heroes are different. 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.919 No, I I completely agree. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.639 I mean, we'll talk in a bit about why I haven't been to the cinema so much in the last week or so. 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.759 Um, because I have been watching a DC project. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:19.039 But yeah, I I agree, and I I'm very excited for Clayface because I do think it has that slightly it looks like it has an edge to it that I mean I enjoyed Spider-Man as I say, but it you know, it's very soft and cuddly. 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:28.320 The Punisher is allowed to say shit, and that's about it, even though in the deck the m the Netflix series he's saying he's dropping an F bomb every other word, basically. 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.080 That's again I could enjoy The Punisher being in it. 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:35.440 I enjoyed the uh like those were some of the better bits for me. 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:36.240 I really enjoyed it. 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:47.519 I knew nothing about The Punisher,

I don't know anything about The Punisher, I've not seen any of the TV series, I've not read a comic book um with him in in it, or I don't think I've even read a proper comic book in my lifetime, sorry to say. 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:53.840 Um but I could enjoy the bits he was in, I got his character, you know, it was it it was fun. 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:59.519 Um I I had fun watching it, so I think that's all you can ask for in that sort of film. 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:00.960 No, I completely agree. 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.559 And it didn't go over the top with the fights and with the whatever else. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:11.200 You're never gonna, you know, you know Spider-Man's gonna win at the end, and that's always the problem these films have. 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:20.639 But it made it fun enough with ooh, who are the real bad I mean, it kind of signposted who the real baddie was pretty easily and pretty early on. 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:32.639 I mean if you're paying attention, but I do feel I do have to put one big demerit in the uh in the house points of uh Spider-Man Brand New Day, in the completely wasted Trammel Tillman. 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.399 Like he is so good. 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:40.480 Um and he is playing one of the dullest characters in superhero fiction, I think. 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:46.399 He's like he basically just wants Gene Gray's powers for himself, and he's that's and he's just a bad guy. 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:57.200 And I was like, you know when he turns up in the Mission Impossible movies and he's so weird, like he just really, really brings like that off-beat energy that we see in um Severance. 00:16:57.440 --> 00:16:57.759 Severance. 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:00.080 Like you want that in everything he does. 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:02.480 And I appreciate, you know, he can't do it for everything. 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:07.119 He doesn't want to get typecast, but he is genuinely one of the dullest supervillains. 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:20.799 I think if the rest of it wasn't that you know, the rest of uh Brand New Day wasn't so good, we'd be saying that this is up there with Malekith and the uh from Dark for the Dark World and the other phase two villains who we all hate. 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:26.720 I I yeah, I mean I it was pretty obvious from the start that they were the baddies. 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:27.200 Yeah. 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:28.720 Um the real baddies. 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:39.519 And I think they kind of revealed that it was Gene Grey a little bit early for me, because as soon as I I I am not a big superhero fan, but as soon as I heard she was Gene Grey, I was like, oh right, she's definitely, definitely not a bad. 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:51.440 I will say there was a very funny moment in my in the cinema when I went uh to the normal screen end, in that there is a very obvious pause when Peter works out that it's Jean Grey. 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:57.519 And you know how like Marvel's accused

of leaving beats after a big dramatic reveal for the audience to clap. 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:04.880 When they do not clap, like they did not in my theatre, it is exceptionally awkward because all you hear is the silence. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:12.559 There is no noise, it is just an empty screening of people who could not give less of a shit because everyone knew it was Jean Grey at that point, anyway. 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:14.079 Um, so yeah. 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:26.079 Um I will say there was one particular cherry on top of my um Spider-Man experience, which I do think has given it a little bit a little uh one of the reasons I enjoyed it as much as I did. 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:37.599 Um I saw some people filming the end of the post-credit scene um at the press screening of all things. 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:44.799 Uh yes, well, I have never and I was expecting these people to get away with that. 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:50.559 However, security came down on them like an absolute ton of bricks. 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:57.440 No one on the air was like, you can't leave your the your seat until you show me your phone and I watch you delete that footage. 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.119 They were like, Have you sent that to anyone? 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.279 And they were like, no, no, no, no, no, I'll send it to anyone. 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.359 And I was like, Yes, this is this is can we have this in normal cinemas, please? 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:10.799 I really respected the good work, security team at the uh at the at the press screening. 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:12.079 You were doing the Lord's work. 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:18.400 Yeah, and also other than uh paying my respect to everyone who worked on the film, staying for that post-credit scene was the biggest waste of my time ever. 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.319 Yeah, I was irritated as well. 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:22.480 Don't bother. 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.559 If you've not seen Spider-Man yet, do not bother waiting for the post-credit scene. 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.119 It is probably one of the worst ones I've ever seen. 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:30.720 It's genuinely shocking. 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:38.559 Um I'm interested now, based on the success of this, to see because again, I've seen loads of people saying Marvel's back, Marvel's back. 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:45.359 Um I'd be very interested now, because we've got December, is it December 13th? 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:46.720 Um Doomsday. 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:48.880 Doomsday finally lands. 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:55.839 And I will say that I have noted a lot more sort of enthusiasm building for this film. 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:04.240 Because when the first trailer came out, there wasn't a lot of a lot of people being a bit doom and gloom, pun unintended, about um the the way the trailer looks. 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.279 And I've noticed that people were like, actually, does this look pretty good now? 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:14.079 And I don't know whether that's the afterglow of Spider-Man or whether Marvel's just got its shit together with that trailer. 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.799 Um, but I'm certainly more interested in it than I was before. 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:26.960 And I think if this I don't think Doomsday does as well as Spider-Man, I'll be honest, to make another prediction which will undoubtedly be proven wrong. 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:27.920 Yeah, I don't know. 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:29.359 I just don't know now. 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:35.279 The everything everything would suggest that it's gonna be bigger than Spider-Man. 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.960 Everything would suggest like in a normal world, yes. 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:44.640 However, I do not know if the general public care enough. 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.759 Like the people the circles I move in all know that there's an Avengers movie coming out. 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:57.119 But if you went and said to, you know, said to, you know, like my sister, for example, oh there's a new Avengers movie coming out, would she know? 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:58.079 That's the question. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:20:59.279 No, possibly not. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:07.039 And they won't care that the Russo brothers are back directing, because that's you need to really know what you So Spider-Man isn't in Doomsday. 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:08.319 No, apparently not. 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:09.599 That that's interesting. 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.680 What I mean, I don't know enough about what's going on, but that seems odd. 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:14.880 So you know. 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:16.640 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.400 Sorry, I thought it frozen. 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:20.640 So Spider-Man isn't in it. 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:22.480 Supposedly. 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:31.119 However, I imagine we will be getting a cameo at some point during the film that they are just not reporting on right now. 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:38.400 Um because I just don't see a world in which they don't pop Spider-Man, their most popular character in this film. 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:47.519 Yeah, but wouldn't you now be thinking wow, mate I mean, I'd I'd be popping a trailer out with him in it between now and the release. 00:21:50.559 --> 00:22:02.640 I joked about this the the day after the when the when we saw the film's huge box office that Kevin Feig must have gone to work that day and said, Put up a trailer and put Spider Man in that and do a Tom Holland's not in it and just just put him in it anyway. 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:03.119 Don't care. 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.079 Use old footage. 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.079 Just stick Spider-Man in it somewhere. 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:06.559 Right. 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.880 We've got we've got three months. 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:10.319 Reshoots, reshoots. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.519 We just need five minutes. 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:12.480 We need five minutes.

00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:13.119 Get him in. 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:22.559 Well, this is the interesting thing, because Tom Holland was film was seen filming something as Spider-Man round London relatively recently. 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.400 And people were like, is it for Secret Wars? 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.839 Is it for Doomsday? 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.359 So maybe he isn't it. 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:33.440 And maybe they're just not maybe they're hoping for word of mouth, you know, that people go see it and say, Oh, did you know that Tom Holland does a cameo in this? 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:34.400 Well, we shall see. 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.400 Right, that's enough Spider-Man chat, to be honest. 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:37.440 I'm bored now. 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:38.799 Right. 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:40.799 Should we talk about something you've been to see? 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:44.559 Should we talk about the end of Oak Street and JJ Abrams' return? 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:46.319 Well, no, he didn't even direct it, did he? 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:46.880 He's just a producer. 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.119 It's just a bad robot film, he's just produced. 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:49.599 Right. 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.240 Um Yes, let's. 00:22:52.480 --> 00:23:00.960 And it's yet another film starring everyone's favourite actress, Anne Hathaway, who I think has just been ramming him in as much as she can before she gives birth. 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:03.680 She's got a kid to pay for, yeah. 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:10.079 Um, yeah, I mean, because she's obviously not got enough money to pay for um a kid at the moment. 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.160 And people have been questioning whether her baby bump was real. 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.079 Like, people are going to start on that. 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.039 It's weird. 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:16.240 People are weird. 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.759 So, yeah, directed and written by David Robert Mitchell. 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:20.079 Oh. 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.079 The It Follows guy. 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.000 The guy from It Follows, yes. 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:27.759 Not the guy from Peep Show, who I don't think is Robert. 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:29.200 Uh is he just David Mitchell? 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.039 I think he's just David Mitchell. 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.559 Because I was slightly confused for a second. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.960 Um, so yes, the the the director of um It Follows. 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.519 It is a dinosaur movie. 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:47.119 So it is um I and I'm not giving anything away here because this is kind of in the trailer. 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:59.200 A Oak Street, the sort of area gets blipped and taken back into the Jurassic or period when there were dinosaurs. 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:20.160 Well, whether it was the Jurassic period or a different period of history, because there are multiple where dinosaurs existed, it's blipped back and

suddenly everyone in that street is just stuck 300 odd million years ago, and they kind of have to fend for themselves and figure out what the hell's happened and get through it. 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:36.960 And Anne Hathaway and Ewan McGregor star, they're kind of the leads with their two kids, and they're kind of going through marital problems and and it sets it up nicely with with all that kind of stuff, and then yeah, dinosaurs run around, they have to run away. 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.480 It's a bit of fun. 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:43.519 It's an hour and 40 minutes, which is absolutely amazing in my book for a film nowadays. 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:45.359 It's fun, there are dinosaurs. 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.799 I like the design of the dinosaurs, they're all a bit fluffy and feathery. 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:54.400 Um, there are some fun moments with the dinosaurs, some silly moments with the dinosaurs. 00:24:54.799 --> 00:25:02.799 Um, there's plenty of chases where the dinosaurs should have caught them and eaten them within two seconds, but for some reason the dinosaurs slow down while chasing humans. 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.279 Well, they want to give them a fair crack, which I think we've all seen in dinosaur films. 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:07.599 Yeah. 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.759 Jurassic World, when she's running in her high heels and the T-Rex just can't catch her. 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.279 Just can't catch her up because they were notoriously slow, those T-Rex. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.480 Um, so yeah, so there's lots of bits like that, which is which is all part of the fun. 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:27.359 Um I won't I won't do any spoilers because I know you've not seen it yet, but the the end's quite quite interesting. 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:32.799 There's sort of some moral questions kind of raised at the end as well, um, which which is interesting. 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.200 Um kind of more for you to then leave the cinema with. 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.680 It doesn't deal with them itself, it just stuff happens at the end, and you're kind of left thinking, huh. 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.240 Was that the right thing to do or not? 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:42.880 Interesting. 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:47.039 Um so I will I'll leave that to you and we can m discuss that next time maybe. 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.079 But no, fun. 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.640 Uh I think it's gonna it's interesting. 00:25:50.880 --> 00:26:01.119 It's an original film, it's from a sort of indie director, it's um an 80 million budget, which is big. 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.519 Uh and not I'm hope I hope it does well enough to to justify that budget. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:14.240 I hope it gets to at least 200 million worldwide um to to to justify that budget because I want um I want original films. 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.440 Well, this seems like the type of thing that a few years ago would be a very safe bet. 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:25.759 You know, you've got two big stars, Anne Hathaway coming off the back of Odyssey, Ewan McGregor, everyone loves Ewan McGregor. 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.960 It's I mean, I again I appreciate it's not J.J. 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.400 Abrams directed, but it's got J.J. 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.160 Abrams' name attached to it. 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:42.400 I would have seen this easy breaking 300 mil, you know, like not a not a massive movie, but certainly enough of a return for you to be like, yeah, solid. 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:50.720 But again, you just don't know these days, like with just how these types of films put mid-budget movies, how will it perform? 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.079 We do not know. 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.160 Yeah, I mean, funny that we're talking about an 80 million budget as being mid-budget there. 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.119 Isn't that, isn't it? 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:06.559 I mean, it's done 47 million in its opening weekend worldwide, so it needs to it needs to 4x that really to get to where it needs to be. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.119 And it that's that's a lot to do. 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:10.319 It's got to stick around. 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:15.279 It's got to hope that the the new releases coming out aren't gonna keep you away from it. 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:20.480 It's a 12A, it could easily have gone for 15 and been a bit more graphic with some of the stuff, but it obviously has gone 12A. 00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:28.400 There were a lot of kids in the screening I went to, so you know, dinosaurs always kind of appeal to to the younger demographic as well. 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:29.759 So I I hope it sticks around. 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:31.599 I hope it um I hope it does well. 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.240 It's fun. 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.119 Yeah, I certainly had fun with it for an hour and forty minutes. 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:41.359 It you know, if you're looking for something to to just go and have a bit of fun with this summer, then I I I suggest going and checking it out. 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:49.279 I mean, looking at what is to come, I I it's not got a lot of competition in sort of Coyote versus Acme. 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:54.160 Um, you know, the hood we did absolutely terrible. 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.359 I've heard some absolutely terrible reviews for that. 00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:58.319 Really? 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.359 It's got 95% on Ran Tomatoes, but you know. 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:02.160 Right, okay. 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:08.880 I'm less less excited for the Dog Stars, the um release got to new picture, to be completely honest. 00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.519 You know, I quite I quite liked the trailer for that. 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:12.240 I'll be interested. 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:13.599 I'll be interested in that one. 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:15.599 You know, uh for another zombie. 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.319 I mean, I don't know. 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:19.839 No, I'm not.

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.039 Yeah, I d I don't know. 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:21.759 I think we'll see. 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.880 Maybe Spider-Man will just keep making millions and millions and poor um at the end of Oak Street. 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:27.920 I one big thing. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:39.839 Yeah, I mean there's certainly there's certainly no there certainly aren't any other big, big um sort of box office behemoths coming out in the in the coming weeks. 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:46.079 I th I mean I'm trying just looking through to trying to see when the next really big movie is coming out, and it is a quite a wait. 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.119 Who knows though? 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.079 So maybe it'll stick around, maybe it'll do alright, yeah. 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.759 I mean it is it's quite a wait for the next big one, to be honest. 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:55.039 Why isn't it? 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:56.160 Unless I'm missing something. 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:57.039 I don't know. 00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:58.160 I don't I've not got to it yet. 00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.519 Is it cla is it clayface? 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.440 Is it clayface in October? 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.200 Certainly not her private hell at the end of September, I'll tell you that now. 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.640 Um wow. 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:13.200 I'm I'm I'm cycling through now to see what we've got to come. 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.799 And in terms of like blockbusters, it's very thin on the ground. 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.279 Street Fighter on the 16th of October, maybe? 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:22.559 Yeah, come on. 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.880 Clayface on the 23rd, yeah. 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:30.240 There's it it it it can stick around for quite a while, um, I would say. 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.119 I would say it's got the chance to stick around for quite a while. 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.240 Um I think there's another Resident Evil film coming out. 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.720 Hunger Games, new one new Hunger Games comes out at some point. 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.400 I'm not quite sure when that'll be hopefully be quite big. 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:47.359 But yeah. 00:29:47.519 --> 00:30:04.799 But also, I mean, it means it's go and see that if you like a big one, but there's lots of interesting films coming out as well soon, including uh film I saw at Cannes, Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, which uh I if you go back to the the Can episode I'm sure I talked about, but I can talk about a little bit more. 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.160 You've not seen it yet, have you? 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.160 No, I've got tickets for it on Friday. 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.839 So I won't give too much away, but it is it is great fun. 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:32.480 Um, some really great filmmaking in it, some like lovely practical sets with painted back cloths, um, like really sort of sort of nods to uh films of the past, nods to sort of harrow horror franchises, um, it's a bit of a meta film in that sense. 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.000 It it's just it's good fun. 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:34.799 It's good fun. 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.039 The two lead performances are fantastic. 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:42.720 Um Gillian Anderson is brilliant in it, and there's a lot of sweets. 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:52.240 So if you um if you like gummies, as they call them in the film, um, which are sort of your softer sweets, you have bows that they don't seem to have in America for sweet. 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:59.359 Yeah, um, they they they they talk about gummy sweets a lot, and there's a lot of there's a lot of candy in the film. 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.200 Um but yeah, it's fun. 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:17.599 It's I mean, it sets its stall out very early with the level of violence, and you'll very much enjoy there's one party scene about midway through, which um is just I just absolutely loved and thought was absolutely brilliant. 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:32.400 So yeah, I mean if you if if you've seen all the big stuff, or if you can't be asked with the big stuff, as I normally can't, and you just want to go and watch something a bit uh cool and different, and Teenage Sex and Death at Cat Miasma is out this Friday, the 21st of August. 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.319 So I would strongly advise going and checking that out. 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.160 And then I'll be on holiday. 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.839 Yeah, I mean I'll go see it. 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.480 When I get the when I I'll go to the screening of it, that that much I will say. 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:50.160 Because I am I like a Ridley Ridley Scott rarely lets me down, except when he does, famously. 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.720 Gladiator too, I'm looking at you. 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.839 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.680 Yeah, it's just the most it's it's the one that's at the forefront of my mind. 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:04.720 If if, however, you can't afford the cinema and you do have an HBO Max subscription, I can recommend a TV show. 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:11.680 Because I would recommend lanterns, because I know mentioned earlier I had been very busy with a DCU um project. 00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:26.559 So this is a TV show about the Green Lanterns, and I know those of you who know the character will be terrified at the mere mention because obviously we had the Ryan Reynolds movie from God over a decade ago now, which might be one of the worst films ever made. 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:33.119 It's gen it will it will make you hate Ryan Reynolds more than you probably already hate Ryan Reynolds. 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:40.480 Um it's just but this is really quite good, very different, very low uh low-key, it's quite interesting. 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:46.079 Um it's got Kyle Chanya, Tambler, and Erin Pierre as sort of the two Green Lanterns. 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:52.000 And I can't lie, they're basically doing a

true detective set in the DCU. 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.400 That's basically what it's trying to be. 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.720 And it's really effective mystery. 00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:57.839 Like it's really compelling. 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:03.279 I don't think it's quite as grown up as it is sort of like the marketing would want you to believe. 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:12.480 The marketing definitely wants you to think you're watching, you know, a new Twin Peaks, a new sort of like, you know, gritty, dark uh TV show along those lines. 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:17.359 I think it's probably it's got it's having a little more fun than that, but it's a really impressive show. 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.880 I think um Carl Chandler and uh, as I say, Aaron Pierre, absolutely fantastic in it. 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.000 Like, genuinely have such good banter, such good chemistry. 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:31.680 The first episode is out tonight on Sky, and I think is available to watch already if you've got the streaming service. 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.400 But I absolutely loved it, thought it was brilliant. 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:39.440 I've seen seven of the eight, and I'm really annoyed that I don't have the eighth episode to watch. 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.799 Um, so I can't really recommend it more than that. 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.799 Uh, I fell off that. 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.519 I love that you felt what what did you make of the bear? 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.160 Yeah. 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:53.680 I really dis I didn't like season three, I th and I thought season four was okay. 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.799 So I really was in no rush for the bear season five. 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:01.119 I thought it was fantastic, but genuinely such a satisfying ending to that show. 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:01.920 Yeah, of course. 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:02.319 Yes. 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.079 Oh well, yeah, I'd say that. 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:11.360 And they've and seeing characters you like get a win is always nice television, which is why, Neil, you should go watch Ted Lasso. 00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.440 Now, you're very, very wrong. 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.199 You you're you're gone, gone. 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.679 Oh wow, it's taking you that long to get to Uncut Gems. 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.199 I mean, it it is a superb movie. 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.559 It is extremely stressful. 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:33.920 When I went to see it, funnily enough, I went to see it uh at home in Manchester, and Carl was sat two rows behind me at that first screening of the day, which was a nice which which was a nice surprise. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:46.079 But uh my friend Cam, it was a sold-out screening, and my friend Cam was sat next to this woman, and she had a similar experience to Amy in that she found it far too stressful. 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:54.480 It was clearly too much for her, but because she'd paid like her£7.50 for her ticket, she was determined to sit all the way through it. 00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:01.840 So she had an absolutely miserable two and a half hours of Adam Sandler basically making bad decision after bad decision. 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.519 No, he doesn't. 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.719 A beautiful yeah, yeah, okay. 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.960 Admit it yes, I would agree with that. 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.119 He he almost made he makes a good decision, he just explains himself poorly. 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:13.519 No. 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.079 Lessons for life from Uncut Gems. 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:17.519 Oh yeah, no, genuinely. 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:18.320 Yeah. 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.920 Which Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think if there's anything that's genuinely made me go, well, in a like that in a some time. 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:24.960 Probably not. 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.199 Like Uncut Gems is a big twist. 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.920 Well, I say it's worst, ending is, but it's just surprising. 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.119 I like that we're talking round the the spoilers on a like a 10-year-old movie at this point. 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:38.880 Yep. 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.000 I'd completely agree. 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.320 But you mean the talented Safty brother? 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.760 Because one made what was it called again? 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:46.639 The smashing machine. 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.559 Gotta kinda kinda it it's telling, isn't it? 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.280 That that film came out this year and I can't even remember the name of it. 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.519 Oh god tells you everything I know. 00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:01.360 Yeah, I mean you've no doubt seen them because we're you've with your festival trips, you'll have seen everything I go to I go to over the next few weeks. 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.119 Sounds sounds no, we won't, but sounds delightful. 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:06.320 Bye bye.