Full Transcript for Great Experiences Don't Happen By Accident | Ashley Turner

May River and Crossroads. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:34.000 Um, but I control their access uh to that point um for any of the montage groups that come in. 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:38.800 Tons of different groups attempting to access these incredible courses. 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.080 What do you enjoy most about your role here? 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.639 Um just that. 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:49.039 I mean, I you know I started out in the upstate more on the event planning side. 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:54.639 Got I was member services director, uh, went on to member relations at the next club. 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.199 So I've always kind of been on that event planning side. 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.520 Um, but I started out in golf as well. 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.280 I played golf in high school. 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:08.319 And then when I was at uh Thornblade, I was in the golf shop and helped out with tournaments as well. 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:14.080 So when I this role kind of came up, it was kind of a cool thing of both worlds coming together for me. 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.360 I could do event planning and golf all at the same time. 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.719 It sounds like it spoke to you like this is where you were meant to be. 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:22.080 Yeah, and it's kind of crazy. 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.919 Like when I saw it, you know, I kind of thought you had to be a PGA professional. 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.479 And when I called and reached out, they were like, No, we we don't need that. 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:39.439 Like you could, you'll fit this role perfectly, which was an awesome kind of cool thing that happened for me in this industry because most people obviously and most tournament directors are PGA professionals. 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:39.680 Yeah. 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:44.879 It sounds like it was affirming that the team here saw your skill set, saw your work history. 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:53.759 And I've heard I hear nothing but great things about the fun tournaments and the twists and themes that that happen every year to what y'all put out. 00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:00.000 What's something members would be surprised to learn about your job? 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:05.280 If there's one thing that's, oh my gosh, who knew that Ashley does this? 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:06.240 What would that be? 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:08.639 I think it'd be the montage resort groups. 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:16.000 I don't think a lot of people know, you know, obviously, like if we have a Tuesday blocked or if there's a block on the T-sheet, you know, someone's like, you know, what is that? 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:21.920 I mean, they obviously know we have access, but um, I don't think a lot of people know that I I handle that too. 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:24.160 Um because people ask and they're like, you handle that too? 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:25.040 And they're like, you do that. 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:25.920 And I'm like, so yeah. 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.120 How many montage groups are there a year? 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:38.800 Oh, probably if not including if you're including the big ones and the small one, I mean 50 to 60. 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:39.199 Wow. 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.399 Maybe more now that we have crossroads available to them as well. 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:48.480 Um there's a lot, and obviously it's spring and you know, spring and fall are the biggest ones. 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:58.959 Um, but even right now, I mean, we've we had a group yesterday um at May River, and the summertime's kind of their time um to have more availability, less members on property. 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:04.639 Yeah, everyone's not here, so it's kind of the we kind of push them to that too, because that's the perfect time for them to get out there. 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:14.160 Of course, golf tournaments are having a lot of things to do behind the scenes. 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:25.759 When you think like taking our members behind the scenes with tournament planning, I want to talk about what it actually takes to create one of these memorable golf events. 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:34.240 Walk us through what it takes to plan a golf tournament from the very first idea to the final putt. 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:35.439 Yeah. 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.639 Um, you know, to be honest, like I think about this all the time. 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.959 I'm like always thinking about crazy stuff. 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:50.000 And, you know, LinkedIn, obviously, their members also send like ideas of like, hey, we did this at our club. 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.439 And then, you know, we we meet as a team. 00:05:53.519 --> 00:06:11.600 We we do have a leadership meeting, but I also have other meetings with, you know, Steven and um Colby, James, like our whole team, Erica, and we kind of come together and a lot of us spitball ideas, and we're like, hey, like what you know, and then we're like, you know, it kind of forms into like what we're actually gonna do. 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.120 And like, does this make sense? 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.040 Will the members like this? 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.879 You know, I mean, now we have golf advisory, we'll even throw some ideas out to them just to see the reaction. 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.839 Kind of soft test some of the ideas that pop up. 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:30.639 Yeah, so we kind of do that, but that's I mean, we kind of come together as a team and really make those decisions. 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.680 And, you know, cane break is obviously our big one. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.480 Um, we love themes, you know. 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:38.560 We have golf, they play golf every day. 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.560 So like the golf aspect will always be there. 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:41.360 That doesn't change. 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.519 We do come with different formats, stuff like that. 00:06:43.600 -->

00:06:50.160 But when it comes to the social events, that's where we go kind of out of the box, but it's also like the most memorable part. 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:51.519 That's what everybody remembers. 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.839 The sky is the limit with the social aspect of the tournament. 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:04.160 From my little knowledge of golf tournaments, I remember one of the themes for Cane Break was like a college football team. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:10.000 Walk us through that as an example of the craziness that can can sometimes pop up, the unexpected. 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:10.800 Yeah. 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:14.160 Um, you know, obviously the tournaments in the fall. 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:15.600 So we're thinking football. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.319 Obviously, who doesn't love football as well? 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:26.319 Being in the south, but the thing to think about is in the south, college football is obviously a bigger deal, but up north, NFL is the bigger one. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.000 So we kind of combine both of them to kind of come together there. 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:31.920 And also it goes into the gifts. 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.480 The gifts are a big part of the tournament as well. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.000 They're and everything's a surprise. 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:38.639 So the theme does not get really revealed. 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:42.000 We start sending stuff out, but it's not revealed until they really get there. 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.680 So you can't tell us today what the theme is for cane break in the fall. 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:48.800 No, no, nothing, nothing is revealed. 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:50.480 The gifts, everything's a secret. 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.040 Obviously, that surprise has to be so awesome, right? 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.199 For for the members when they they show up. 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.959 Well, it's kind of anticipation of like, oh, what is she gonna do this year? 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:05.120 And um, and obviously, like I think we you know, we exceed expectations each year. 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.839 I mean, every year everybody's like, how are you gonna top next year? 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:08.800 How are you gonna do this? 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.360 And then they come and they're like, Okay, well, what are you gonna do now? 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:12.720 And it's and that's the fun part. 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:18.480 Like, we get to elevate it every year and you know, blow their minds with what's coming next. 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:29.600 Yeah, it it's it sounds like what separates a golf tournament from another golf tournament is just the planning that goes in, the variation of it. 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:37.440 I know in my world, it's all about year after year what what's different that we can do that surprises the members. 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:42.480 In planning for cane break, like these bigger tournaments, when does that process

start? 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:54.320 Uh years, I mean, a year in advance, but really, I mean, as soon as the other cane, like as soon as cane break ends, it's already like go time of what we're doing. 00:08:54.399 --> 00:09:01.600 Like obviously we we do a SWAT, you know, I call it a swat a SWOT analysis of like, hey, like, okay, what can we do better? 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:02.879 What did we find with this? 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.240 And then we're like, okay, what do we already want to start doing for next year? 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.080 We're always and we're always kind of thinking about it. 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:09.519 Like, I mean, this is our office talk. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:10.960 It's like, hey, did you see this? 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.200 Like, what if we did this theme, or what if we did this? 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.360 And what if we, you know, do we go this crazy? 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:17.840 You know, like do we go so far out of the box? 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:22.080 You know, then that's when James reels us back in, like, okay, guys, I don't know that we can do all this. 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:23.200 Yeah, yeah. 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:32.879 No, it's so fun to have that level of creative time in in a role, and and I can feel the enjoyment that you get from that process. 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.600 As someone who is a leader of a separate department, we have a lot of events too. 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.279 Have you ever run an event and it went exactly as you had envisioned? 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:46.799 Uh, no. 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:47.919 Good. 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:55.279 I wanted to clear that up because something, you know, I'm always like, man, we could have done this better, or you know, this detail could have been a little tighter. 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.440 Tell our listeners about that from your perspective within with event planning. 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:01.759 I like to think of everything that could possibly go wrong. 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:09.759 And I know that sounds like really negative, but yeah, I think I feel like if I think of everything that could possibly go wrong, then that's not what's going to happen. 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:11.759 Because not only that, you're prepared for it. 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:20.399 But obviously there's certain things, you know, from our thing, our biggest challenge, I would say, that obviously is out of our hands is the weather. 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.240 We're we're held to the weather. 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.559 And that's to me, that's our biggest challenge. 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:33.519 Like we could have, I mean, food can be right, you know, and even food, drinks, you know, even golf, even their golf game, like that's you know, that's kind of on them. 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.279 But you mean they don't always play perfectly when they show up to the tournaments? 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:37.840 No. 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:49.519 But we try, you

know, and that's you know, and obviously, like we want conditions to be right, you know, have the formats right, score scorecards are right, their handicaps are right, like all that stuff goes into setting them up for the golf side. 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.320 But when it comes to, is everything gonna go right? 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:59.759 Uh no, someone, you know, something can go wrong, but it's usually very small, you know. 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:01.679 And if it's pivoting, it's usually pivoting. 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:02.879 That's our biggest, you know, we're gonna be able to do that. 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:04.000 Pivot's a great word. 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:13.120 You know, if it we see a raindrop, oh no, we gotta move the buffet to the breeze way really quick, or we gotta pull the golfers off the golf course, you know, have the drinks ready. 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:21.360 You know, they can socialize and drink and um I mean that, but obviously weather is probably our biggest pivot or challenge that comes to a tournament. 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:21.919 Yeah. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:33.600 When I think of Martine, director of racket sports, and James, director of all things golf and and the golf pros out there, there's there that variable is always in play every single day. 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:34.240 Yeah. 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.360 How do you personally handle the unexpected? 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.320 How do you feel about pivoting when it occurs? 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:42.960 Um, I think I'm really good at it. 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.720 I think you have to be good at in this industry. 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:49.039 Like, I've learned from the first event, from the first club I worked at. 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.759 I mean, I've just learned over the years like how to handle that situation, but it's all about being prepared for what could happen. 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.440 And do you have all the boxes checked? 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:58.879 And then you gotta be quick on your toes. 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:06.240 Like, you know, there's gonna be situations where you have to make a quick decision, and it it could be a hard decision. 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:11.360 Uh, I mean, remember, remember uh two years ago, big storm. 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:12.320 What do we do? 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:18.879 It looks like it's gonna hit us, pulled everyone off the golf course, canceled the turn, you know, got it in play, never rained. 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:19.440 Yeah. 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:20.720 You know, it's like, what do you do? 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:22.559 You're thinking about all these different things. 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.320 Um, but it's just about making quick decisions, and then you gotta, once you make that decision, you gotta trust it and go with it. 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:37.200 And um, you know, you know, that's where our members come in too, like asking their opinion, especially our advisory committee, like, hey,

this is a decision we think we gotta make. 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:42.639 You know, Juniper Cup got canceled due to the hurricane uh three years ago. 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:48.960 You know, we we did the fruit practice round, we did the dinner, and then of course it hit in the middle of the night and we all came in. 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:58.320 You know, property was like locked down and all the trees were down, and then having to make the call to cancel the tournament, especially for member guests, they've already flown their guests in. 00:12:58.480 --> 00:12:59.600 They're all here. 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:03.279 You know, not only are they paying to be in the tournament, they're paying for their guests to be here. 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:10.639 We had this whole thing planned and rentals, the tents were already up, everything was done, and uh, we had to make the call to cancel the tournament completely. 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:11.440 That's tough. 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.320 You sleep at night when you make those decisions. 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.440 No, it was the most gut-wrenching decision we had to make. 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.960 And we all sat there just like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're gonna do this. 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:22.559 But it was for safety reasons. 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:23.679 I mean, we had no power. 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.799 All the you know, Rye was trying, they were all trying to move the food around. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:32.559 Like it was obviously a situation that was explained uh by natural, you know. 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.759 Occurrence that was out of your out of your control. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:40.879 It, you know, obviously it didn't pan out to be as bad as what was being, you know, portrayed. 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:44.320 And and you know, we're not weather experts by any means. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:14:06.879 It's so amazing that you're able to share kind of that story and everything that goes in, because I think so many of our listeners, our members, can agree with the fact that it's better to make a decision than it is to flounder and to be unclear with the approach that we're deciding to take in anything. 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:07.600 Oh, yeah. 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:09.279 Anything on this property. 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:10.080 Yeah. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.039 Of course, golf tournaments are much more than competition. 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:29.200 I I've found with the in this may or may not be accurate, the community of golfers that we have here, there are competitive golfers, but what I see most at Palmetto Bluff is golf is really about bringing people together. 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.039 I look at that in my world. 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:37.440 Fitness, yeah, it's it's great for your health, but fitness is also about bringing people together. 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:45.440 From your perspective, what role do golf events play in building community here at Palmetto Bluff? 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:49.679 Um, I think they play a huge part, you know, especially with our golf members. 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:56.960 I mean, like you said, we do have a competitive group, but I think our members, our golf members are also very social. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:04.480 Um, even from like think like pairings uh for our events and couples golf, like stuff like that. 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.480 Like that's how new relationships get built. 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.360 You know, some tournaments are nine holes, some are 18 holes. 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.679 That's four hours that you're spending with maybe someone you've never met before. 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.639 And by the end of that round, they're like new friends. 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:24.399 You know, and we see a lot of this, like we do sometimes we ask for pairings, sometimes we don't allow pairings requests, and we we handle that. 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.840 And obviously we're looking at who's who and stuff like that. 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:36.480 Does that depend on the time of year when you actively pair people up with the like occupiedness of the courses or when it's depends on like what kind of tournament it is? 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:48.879 Like if it's you know, like our SummerSlam, which is probably our most fun tournament, they play in sixums, which is typically not allowed, but they play in, they get to make their teams and they come with team names and it's all fun. 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:54.080 Um, you know, some people you know they get to put their teams together, and that's more like they're hanging out with their friends. 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.519 And so some people don't. 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:56.720 Like we do have a singles team. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.639 If you want to sign up as a single or you don't know people, we do make a team. 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:13.519 So there's separate registrations, if I'm hearing this correctly, depending on if you want to make your own team or if you, you know, you want to have fun with the SummerSlam, for example, but you you don't necessarily, you know, are worried about who you play with. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.120 Yeah, we do all inclusive. 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.799 Yeah, you can sign up as a single or you can sign up as a six um and then we put them together. 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:24.080 And just like couples go off, like, you know, we have a lot of people that reach out and be like, just pair me up with someone new. 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:35.200 Like I, you know, I would like to be with someone new, and uh, you know, and we do that, and then they're friends, then they're going to bluff stock together or you know, they get their kids together and it forms other relationships on property. 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:36.639 That's great. 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:46.559 Can you tell us about a story, a very specific moment potentially that reminds you why you love what you do? 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00:16:49.840 And and please take it from the the community angle. 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.120 Is there one of those moments between members? 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.759 Anything specific that comes to mind? 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.480 Yeah, I mean, I do have a specific story. 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:03.759 Actually, we just had the homecoming, um, which is obviously a tournament that vertical members get to play in. 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:08.000 It's a family focused tournament, um, which is awesome. 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.519 You know, we uh we had a father-son duo. 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:16.079 We don't have a lot of juniors play, and you know, we're we want to grow that program. 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:27.119 Um, and we had a father-son, another father-son, didn't know each other, had no idea, you know, their kids were even close to the same age and loved golf as much. 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:28.640 And we paired them together. 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.079 I, you know, I kind of asked everybody, like, okay, like do you guys think this is gonna be a good pairing? 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:33.920 Like, I think they'll have fun together. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:35.359 And um, they did. 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.079 Like, they came up afterwards and like thanked all of us. 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.880 They were like, now our kids can like play together and like we didn't, we had no idea. 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.880 Like, we had this in common, and um, it was just really cool to see. 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:55.200 Like, they were so happy afterwards, and they were all talking and you know, chit-chatting and where they could almost be friends for life, those those two younger kids. 00:17:55.359 --> 00:18:01.680 Yeah, and it was just it was just like you know, the dads were excited too, because you know, it is kind of nerve-wracking, you know, playing in a tournament. 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:09.920 You know, obviously, most juniors, unless they're playing tournament golf, you know, don't play in a lot of stuff, and we don't have as many tournaments for juniors as well. 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.240 So seeing that kind of you know bond created uh was really cool. 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:21.200 Um, you know, I'm sure we'll see them now coming out to play on their own, maybe after school or something like that, or while they're hanging out for the summer. 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:22.799 So it was really cool to see. 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.880 And it was really we were all like, oh my goodness, you know, and they were very appreciative of everything. 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:52.160 That's a great moment because I bet when you and the team were pairing, you know, the father, father-son, father-son together, you maybe didn't realize the the the impact it was gonna make, and then you you see it all come to fruition, and it's like, wow, like just this small thoughtful act of pairing up, you know, father-sons similar age. 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:58.559 I love that aspect of what we get to do where you're just surprised by the connection that you sometimes create. 00:18:58.799 --> 00:18:59.279 Yeah. 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:06.480 I think every community here in the low country has their own culture around golf. 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:12.240 How would you describe the palmetal bluff club golf culture? 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:16.720 And what's one thing that makes it different potentially from other clubs? 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.519 You know, I really think it's our members and our staff. 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:24.000 You know, we have a special bond, I think, at the golf club. 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:30.319 Um, you know, each, now that we have three, you know, we have moved staff around, which also helps. 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:35.119 But seeing that familiar face, um, you know, that's the thing about the club industry. 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:36.880 Our members are here every single day. 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.079 It's not a hotel where that's you know new people every day. 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:49.839 Um, you know, and that's the big thing when I got here too, that I I recognize with this membership, like everyone is very personable, welcoming, but we also do the same. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.200 You know, we all know their names, we know what drink they want, you know, we know what tea time they want. 00:19:55.359 --> 00:20:01.519 We also, you know, if they're you know, when we're making tournament pairings, like we know who wants to go out first, who wants to play here. 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:10.160 Um, you know, and I think that's just that's a big part of what makes that our golf club so great, too. 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.039 You know, and the the the relationship there, the interaction. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:18.799 You know, it's my favorite part is walking in and if gang sum sitting out there, you know, talk to everyone. 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:33.440 I mean, it takes me like 30 minutes to get to my desk because like I am talking to them, I'm talking to our outside team, you know, I talk to the guys in the pro shop when I get there, you know, and like and all the and the members also like, you know, oh, like how, you know, how was your trip? 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:38.160 Or like, hey, yeah, I heard about this, like, and we're the same way, and like it's no different than Fourth of July. 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:39.759 Like, a lot of people just came in to see us. 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:45.119 Like, you know, a lot of the kids come in town, um, you know, and they're like, Oh, we just want to come by and see everybody. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:52.160 You know, obviously everybody's going to get candy too, but you know, we're they're also like there to see your team has the best comfort station, I've heard. 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:54.720 Comfort station, we have the best candy, I think. 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.240 You know, when you come in. 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:56.960 No joke.

00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.119 The goldfish and gummy bears don't last very long. 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.599 Goldfish and gummy bears are the most popular. 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:02.480 Yep. 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:12.160 I'm hearing that people create deep bonds and care about one another is the difference maker. 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.680 Where it's it's not just, you know, members to members caring about each other, staff to staff. 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.640 It's like this connection between everybody. 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:21.200 Yeah. 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.599 I think it's like a welcome home. 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.160 Like this is this is your home, it's our home to you. 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.200 Like, I mean, we obviously spend a lot of time here with a lot of people. 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.279 I think it's just a home for everybody. 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:32.319 Yeah. 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:38.240 Let's shift our focus to the people, the experience that you strive to create. 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.440 And we've we've stumbled into it a little bit thus far. 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:44.960 Throughout your career, how do you look at hospitality? 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:50.160 What has hospitality taught you when it comes to serving people? 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.960 Um, you know, I think it's having a servant's heart. 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:59.759 And, you know, I've had a lot of mentors along the way that have really guided and shifted. 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:05.279 Me into like that is who I am and kind of getting me to realize that. 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:14.720 But it's just like you said, like creating that sense of belonging for the members and those interactions, you know, the smallest things make the biggest impressions to these members. 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:16.319 That's what they, that's what they remember. 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:22.079 Like they remember us asking them about their day or simply listening to them or remembering their name. 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:23.920 I feel like that goes a long, a long way. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.160 Even in a member guest tournament, you know, like we have a lot of guests that return. 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:29.200 And we know their name. 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.000 They're like, you know, the guests of the members' names. 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.039 Impressive. 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.839 They're like, how do you like you have to remember all their names? 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.480 How do you do it? 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:42.240 And honestly, like I've always like, it's just a face, I just it just pops in my head. 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:43.039 I don't even really know. 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.440 Like everybody's always asked me, like, how are you able to do that? 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.400 I'm like, it's just I it's just memories. 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.519 And then obviously there's things about people that you remember as well. 00:22:51.680 -->

00:22:57.599 Like if they like a certain team or like there's certain things you talk about with that person, it helps you remember them. 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:03.279 But you know, I think that's what goes a long way into hospitality when we're serving these people. 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.279 We're doing it every day, but we love it. 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.079 You know, for me, it's I don't really think about it. 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.079 It's just, you know, I think it's just kind of who I am and who I've developed into. 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.640 And like it's just so easy and natural. 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.680 And it's it's it's why I love it every day, though. 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:25.680 You've had a lot of repetitions, remembering people's names through specific things that you spoke with them about previously. 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:32.400 And uh I just know how important it is to make people feel seen. 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:42.319 And it sounds like that's what is exciting for you guys, and you're and you're always after that with with the tournaments and the experiences at the golf clubs. 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.559 There's a big future here at Palmetto Bluff ahead of us, specifically in golf. 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.480 A lot of conversations with the growth. 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:54.640 We can see that Anson has been incredibly well received across the board from the membership. 00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:00.319 What are you most excited about for the future of golf events at Palmetto Bluff? 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.519 Um, growth, growing um, growing the program. 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:08.240 You know, we do 12 uh events, tournaments a year. 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:15.680 Uh, you know, now four majors with two member guests, two men's member guests, one ladies member guest, and then a member member. 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:21.680 Um, you know, I think, you know, we can grow at each course as well. 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.200 You know, Crossroads offers a specific experience. 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:26.720 You know, that's kind of the cool thing. 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.680 We have three different experiences that we can offer. 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:35.839 So Crossroads, you know, adding stuff out there that fits their mold. 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:42.000 You know, May River is kind of like the OG, you know, so like you don't want to do too much out there. 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:45.519 But and then we've incorporated things at Anson and like for 2027. 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.200 I can't go into too much detail, but we're we've moved some things around. 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:51.680 We've put some things at Anson that have always been in May River. 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.680 And we did this this year too with Crossroads. 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.559 We moved some stuff out there that was usually at May River. 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.799 I mean, obviously, once Crossroads got here, we incorporated crossroads into things. 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:01.920 Now we've got Anson. 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.240 But I think we want to add a lot of stuff. 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:18.319 You know, we want to incorporate because we have such a, you know, a demographic, you know, where we've got the the young, we've got the juniors, we've got the younger couples, we've got the traditional member groups, we've got, and then we've got your competitive. 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:23.599 We've we've got the tournaments that offer that competitive, we've got the social, we've got all that. 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:24.880 I think we can add more. 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:33.519 It sounds like bringing more and more events to match the various wants archetypes of the demographics here. 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.799 There's such diversity in the vibes of our courses. 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.160 I love how you said May River as the OG. 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.960 Yeah, I have a uh small group that I lead. 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:48.400 It's the only regular small group training that I do weekly now, and they're big golfers. 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.039 And they always talk about May River in that context. 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:52.319 Yeah, it's the OG. 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.440 You know, let's keep it, let's keep the experiences maybe a little more neutral there. 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.799 I don't know if that's the right word, but let's let's play the hits over there. 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:01.200 Yeah. 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:06.400 Um, so before we wrap up, I wanted to have a little bit of fun. 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:13.839 And I don't do this with every guest, but Ashley, I knew that you could handle a rapid fire round. 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.720 Give me a little context to each answer. 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:17.119 Okay. 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.920 Not too much, just the right amount, so our listeners can get to know you even that much more. 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.519 Morning or afternoon tea time. 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:26.960 Morning. 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:35.200 Uh, just because it's a little bit calmer in the morning, but I also am a morning person, so I'm ready to go in the morning. 00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:42.880 And I just I like, you know, the sense of exercise, of course, but I like playing a sport in the morning as well. 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:45.599 Do you like when the sun's just coming up on the golf course? 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:45.759 Yeah. 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:46.559 Yeah. 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.039 I mean, it's just it's just the best time to play. 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:55.599 Um, I mean, obviously, as like staff, usually not when that's prime time for every people to play. 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.240 But when I did play, that was my favorite. 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:03.519 And the afternoon is pretty sticky around here in the low country. 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.200 Walk or ride? 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.119 I'm gonna go

with ride. 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.680 No, on Behind the Bluff Podcasts, a wellness-related podcast. 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:12.640 Go ahead, Ashley. 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.440 It's only ride because of the low country, because of the heat down here. 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:25.920 But I will say when I lived in Greenville and I worked, um, I walked 18 holes carrying my own bag. 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:27.279 So you're legit. 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.440 You're not trying to get out of anything today. 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:30.079 Yeah, no. 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.799 Yeah, you're fully capable of walking 18 holes. 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:33.200 Yeah. 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:33.839 Cool. 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:34.960 Ride it is. 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.160 Favorite hole at Palmetto Bluff. 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.480 You have three courses to choose from. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:48.640 Uh, I'm gonna stick with my OG answer of May River number 14. 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.640 It is the prettiest view um of the marsh. 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.440 Where am I standing to get that view? 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.000 Um T Box. 00:27:58.240 --> 00:27:59.119 T-Box is perfect. 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:10.079 And then even the men, like, I mean, obviously I played from the fours, but even from the number two T-Box, you can see the it's like the beautiful opening to the right of the of the hole. 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.519 Still my favorite. 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:17.599 I haven't I have played crossroads um once. 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:18.240 Okay. 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:23.839 I mean, I I obviously go on all three golf courses all the time to like run stuff out or check on setup. 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.839 Um, but when I played, that was my favorite at May River. 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.000 Anson has a lot of pretty ones. 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:35.359 18, obviously, like anything along the marsh or where you can see like the Savannah Bridge. 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.279 Like, I'm just a scenery person, so I like anything with the scenery. 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.119 That's excellent context. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:50.799 And I think for our listeners who are members here at Palmetto Bluff, take an extra look when you're on number 14 and number 18 at Anson. 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.559 Favorite season at Palmetto Bluff? 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:55.759 The fall. 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:57.920 Everyone's back. 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.119 Everyone, it's like, you know, it's still hot. 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.799 I mean, I feel like it's still hot till November here for us, but it's starting to cool down. 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.559 Um, but I love when everyone's back. 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.759 You know, everyone's been off kind of off for the summer. 00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.200 Everybody's excited to be back. 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:16.240 They're excited to see everyone. 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.079 You know, it's kind of just like everyone's coming home. 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:19.599 And you get to see everyone again. 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:29.519 Because it's kind of like, I mean, there's still a good bit of people here, obviously, right now, but a lot of people do leave and it's kind of quiet around the clubhouse, and it's always fun when they come back. 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.839 And then it's just, I love busy season. 00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.079 So there's just uh everybody's moving again. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.920 Buzz, bigger energy. 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:36.400 Yeah. 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:36.880 Yeah. 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:37.920 I'm right there with you. 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:45.680 In October, man, it feels so good when that temp starts to shift and the village green and just indescribable. 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.680 Palmetto Bluff community, can you describe it in one word? 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.680 Uh the word that comes to mind is cultivated. 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:54.720 Cultivated. 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:55.680 Explain. 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:05.839 Um You know, I mean, we obviously have a certain culture here that's here, but also like that sense of family belonging, the energy that's here. 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.920 You know, it's just it's to me, it's just a happy place to be, even for our members. 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.559 Like everyone, like it's kind of like how why could how can you not be happy in this place? 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.960 Like there's just yeah. 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:18.720 Cultivated. 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:20.000 That's good. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:26.559 Final rapid fire question What does every great golf event need? 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.119 Alcohol. 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:30.000 Really? 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.720 I know that's like not healthy, but we really don't have a golf tournament without alcohol. 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.079 You have to have the alcohol. 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:39.920 What's the top favorites? 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.599 Like uh, well, at Crossroads, we have the Peacemaker. 00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:48.000 This is this famous drink we kind of created during a tournament that is taken off. 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.039 The Peacemaker. 00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:50.160 The Peacemaker. 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:53.119 Uh go ahead, walk us through the ingredients of the drink. 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:53.839 It's okay. 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.720 It's uh it does have Gatorade in it and zero. 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.160 Zero Gatorade. 00:30:58.319 --> 00:30:58.640 Okay. 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:00.480 Y'all are keeping it healthy. 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.319 We've got it's got Sprite, uh, vodka, and lemonade. 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:04.960 All right. 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.839 It's very, you know, they say it's very refreshing. 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.079 When does the peacemaker come out? 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.160 Um, well, it came out during our tournament called the Home

Wrecker. 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:14.720 Okay. 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.079 Now it's like on the menu. 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.880 Oh, it's on the menu, so you can get the Peacemaker anytime you want it. 00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:21.599 Love the name. 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.240 And then we have the new canned machine we're doing. 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:25.200 Oh, I did see that. 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.720 Chef Rye showed me that. 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.319 How are members taking to that? 00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:29.359 Everybody loves it. 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:29.759 Yeah. 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.880 Anson really uses it obviously at the roost. 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.960 And you know, Shelby's got all these like really fun cocktails and stuff they put in there. 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.440 And then we do a specialty cocktail for couples golf. 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.759 So that's something we do a specialty cocktail. 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.079 Um, we don't really tell them when it's gonna come out. 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.759 It could be before, it could be during, could be after. 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.440 Um, and we and the bartenders come up with like a fun recipe. 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.359 It's kind of a fun challenge for them, too. 00:31:53.680 --> 00:32:03.039 Um, but yeah, I mean, that's kind of uh that's what even the ones that are nervous, you know, about playing in tournaments and stuff like that, that just eases the tension. 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:04.000 Eases the tension. 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:04.559 Yeah. 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:10.960 And I will go on record saying that alcohol is not necessarily unhealthy. 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:12.240 It's the amount. 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.039 It's the amount. 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:13.440 Yeah. 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:20.480 And the best thing you can do for your health if you choose to drink adult beverages is do it with other people. 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.279 Yeah. 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.559 Ashley, we've gotten to the end of our time together. 00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:34.000 So it's time to ask the same question that I ask every guest who joins me on Behind the Bluff. 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.039 What does wellness mean to you? 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.680 Um, I think it's really just taking care of yourself. 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:52.400 Um, obviously, like being healthy and exercising and eating right, um, which leads to a healthy mindset, which is important to me. 00:32:52.559 --> 00:33:11.359 Um, you know, having those those, you know, the healthy habits that you do on a daily basis, but being consistent with it, um, that leaves to, you know, uh a peaceful mind that ultimately is like our control center, uh, which helps us to carry on the wellness. 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:17.279 But yeah, I mean, obviously the physical and mental is a a big part of keeping that healthy. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:18.640 Yeah. 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:25.440 Take care of your health so that it has a positive impact on your control center. 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:26.319 Yeah. 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:27.759 Right on. 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:33.920 Well, just want to give you a bit of praise for all you do for Palmetto Bluff Club. 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:39.440 I hear nothing but positive things every time a tournament has concluded. 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:53.279 And uh, it's just been so fun to hear more about the behind the scenes, hear how you and your team come together to create events and most importantly, how you all approach creating community. 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.759 And that word cultivate is is really gonna stick with me after today. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.480 Perfect. 00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.759 Thank you so much for having me. 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:00.960 It's great to be here. 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.559 You're very welcome. 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:09.760 Listeners, feel free to hang out with me for a few more minutes and get some healthy momentum for the rest of your week. 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:32.159 If you're a regular listener of Behind the Bluff, you know that I love to take something from each episode and share a deeper thought that helps you move forward in your life. 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:42.639 And before I get to that thought today, I wanted to share that one of my favorite moments from this conversation had nothing to do with event planning. 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:48.480 It was the story behind the peacemaker, the signature drink at Crossroads. 00:34:48.719 --> 00:35:01.039 I I couldn't help but laugh because if there's one person out there who probably needs a peacemaker every now and then, it's leaders like Ashley who oversee large events. 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:07.920 And it made me think about what Ashley said early on in the conversation. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:21.599 When you're responsible for creating experiences for large groups of people like golf tournaments, you have to go in knowing that something is going to eventually go wrong. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:32.159 The weather changes, like at the Juniper Cup, a vendor could be late, a timeline falls apart, a hundred little details don't go exactly as planned. 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.159 And I reflected on that personally. 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:41.840 Every single day that we operate a fitness class schedule and personal trainings, everything doesn't go according to plan. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.440 There's always something. 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:50.559 Ashley shared that part of her job is actually thinking through everything that could go wrong. 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:51.920 Let's stay right there. 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.559 Thinking through everything that could go wrong. 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.280 How often do we do that in our lives? 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.760 At first, maybe it sounds negative, but to me it's not. 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.280 It's preparation. 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.679 And here's where I think it applies to all of us this week. 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.719 Life will eventually ask you to make a decision. 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.599 Life will ask you to pivot. 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.639 Pete Cauley and I just talked about this as well. 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.079 Check out the episode Constant Corrections. 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.320 If we think about this in translation with our life accounts, think about your career. 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.400 Plans probably changed. 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.760 Relationships. 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.039 Have you been in the same exact relationship your entire life? 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:35.679 Maybe. 00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.920 Life throws us curveballs with our health. 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:49.519 The question isn't if you'll have to adjust, it's whether you'll be ready to adjust when you are thrown the unexpected. 00:36:50.320 --> 00:37:00.719 Ashley said something that really stuck with me, and I think it can stick with all of us this week, and it was this make the decision, trust it, and move forward. 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.760 I'm speaking from experience, but I think so many of us lose momentum because we're waiting for certainty. 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.079 We want to feel like it's the perfect solution, the perfect answer to the decision we're trying to make. 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.920 So we stall in taking the next step. 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:25.760 But we have to remember that confidence often comes after the decision, not before it. 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.639 That's why I think healthy momentum isn't about having a perfect plan. 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:38.880 It's about preparing well, staying adaptable, and trusting yourself enough to keep moving forward when plans change. 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.000 So here's two questions for you this week. 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.559 Where in your life are you being asked to pivot? 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:53.199 And second, what is one decision you've been waiting way too long to make? 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.360 You don't have to have the perfect next step. 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:03.920 Just trust the step that you're willing to take. 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.840 That reflection brings us to the end of this week's episode. 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:20.960 I want to thank you for taking the time to join the conversation and remember to actively participate in life on your terms.