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switched for me. 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.079 Because that first act is is it is silly. 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:04.560 It's super tropey, like super tropey with the satire, specifically with John Goodman's character. 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:18.160 Yeah, but after they broke that, yeah, right, and truthfully, dude, that entire first act through the cat, John Goodman, the war room, I mean, Tom Cruise just doing. 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:24.879 I mean, I'm just sitting here going, what compelled this guy to take this part just to act like a goofball? 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.959 I thought that I had this movie figured out, bro. 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:34.399 And then they do that, and I was like, wait a second, what just happened? 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.160 Like, it actually, it actually surprised me. 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:38.639 Yeah. 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.160 And I actually liked it. 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:41.839 I liked that twist. 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.000 And the timing of it was perfect, right? 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:49.120 Because to your point, like you're you're you're like, what the fuck is going on? 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:49.600 Right? 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:57.680 For like 30 minutes, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, and it reads in completely differently, right? 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:58.319 Yes, exactly. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.480 And it's the it's the perfect timing for it because it's it's unconventional, right? 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:11.759 I think like there's the to have that twist there, and then there's a there's a couple other twists, you know, and and and then when you get to the this, I'll say the second twist, right? 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:18.879 Where you have um all of a sudden we find out that my favorite guy, you already know who I'm talking about. 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:20.720 Uh Jesse Plemens. 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:22.000 Jesse Plemens. 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.279 Okay, all right, yeah, I figured a small part in the movie, right? 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:30.800 Pretty small part, but he comes out and he's like, you know, Tom Cruise is struggling, right? 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.800 He's like, What the fuck am I doing? 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:37.519 Like, why I'm playing this over-the-top cartoon villain. 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:42.319 And Jesse Plemens is like, You think you're playing an overtop over-the-top cartoon villain? 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.199 Brother, that is exactly how that motherfucker was. 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.199 And you're just like, oh damn. 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.800 Like, it's it's like another twist. 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.360 You're like, you still, you're like, you're you're grappling with it too. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.959 You're like, this place kind of sucks because it's like just cartoonish. 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.480 And then Jesse Plemens brings it home, and you're like, no, no. 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:08.079 And then it makes and then you start thinking about like these over-the-top cartoon villains that we have in real life, bro. 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:08.879 Right, dude. 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:09.680 Yeah, I know. 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:20.720 I that so so that's exactly what I was thinking about, like, especially right there in that first act, or not even not just the first act, but bro, like the war room. 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.639 I was like, okay, what are we doing here? 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:24.800 Are we doing a Doctor Strange Love? 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:34.000 Are we, you know, are we doing like a is this in your inner e2's fucking Wes Anderson movie? 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:39.120 I don't know what we're doing, but then I was starting to go, wait a second. 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:43.600 This first off, I I hear a lot of people like, oh yeah, you know, this is this is Trump. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:44.879 That's not what I got at all. 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:53.680 No, I actually got I actually got the executives of BP, like Deep Water Horizon BP. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:59.680 And I was like, oh shit, that makes a lot more sense, and it makes me like it more. 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:04.879 I've also heard specifically about that twist is the twist comes too early. 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:06.480 And I completely disagree. 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:13.680 I think that there is I think there's three t tw uh, I think there's three twists overall in the movie. 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.720 There's the twist between the first and the second act where you find out that we're in a stage play. 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:34.720 Then there's the second twist, is the one that you just talked about, where it is are we because because for a lot of the movie, you're like, okay, it's obviously a satire, but it's a satire disguised as a satire about a play that's satirical. 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:46.480 Like it's just layered in a way that to be honest with you, I don't know if that second twist has pulled off amazingly, but I still like it. 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:55.679 And then that third twist is ultimately the one that has stuck with me the most is finding out that we're actually in a dystopian world. 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:56.159 Yeah. 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.080 Which really brought it home for me. 00:08:58.159 --> 00:08:59.919 I think that's super interesting. 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:14.559 That that was honestly my favorite part uh of the movie was was was that it was kind of like remember we've talked about American Psycho and how when you're when you're done with the movie, when it's finished, you just want to talk about it. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:15.600 Want to talk about it. 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:16.960 That is digger. 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:17.440 Yeah. 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.720 I mean, I think I think I called you on the way home immediately. 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:20.960 Yeah. 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:24.159 And was like, dude, what did we just watch? 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And you know, it's it's it's crazy too, because I I I completely agree. 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:31.679 I think that that third twist is what's gonna make this movie a cult classic. 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:32.240 Right. 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.559 Because, you know, the ending with the masks, right? 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:40.879 They put on the mask, and it's what is like threat level four threat level four. 00:09:41.120 --> 00:10:02.879 Yes, yeah, and they they walk out and you see the like uh compliance's freedom on the wall and the the water and the armed patrols, which such a devastating view, but it's shot so well, and I don't understand. 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.840 I don't understand the digger hate. 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:07.360 Like it's this is different. 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.240 This isn't just people going, I don't like this movie. 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.360 This is people going, this is one of the worst movies ever made. 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:18.799 But I've also been seeing a lot of people going, no, this is a masterpiece. 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.120 People have been wanting original stories. 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:26.159 You've got a director that has made some phenomenal movies, dude. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:38.399 Like uh in your in your uh Alejandro, G, in your E2, made one of the movies that is in my top 10 movies of all time, The Revenant, one of the most beautiful movies ever made, 10 out of 10 movie. 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:46.960 He made Birdman with Michael Keaton, which I will say, if you did like Digger, you have to see Birdman. 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:53.360 Birdman is a really interesting movie, one of Michael Keaton's best performances. 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:54.320 It's really good. 00:10:54.399 --> 00:11:05.120 And it I honestly, it's kind of uh, as Chuck would say, it's it's Digger's almost a spiritual sequel to Birdman or a companion piece. 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:14.320 You know, and that I that the incredible thing as you go through that with Inoritu is talk about range from revenant to Digger, right? 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:22.399 Revenant, you have these beautiful, beautiful vistas, wide open spaces, you know, not like not a caricature, right? 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:28.879 Like like Leo plays a very real dude who is just trying to fucking survive in the wilderness, right? 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.720 And it feels real, like the revenant feels like real life back then. 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:37.039 And then you have Digger, which is an over-the-top stage play, right? 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.279 And like that's it, it it it it watches that's the coolest thing, right? 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:50.879 Like they did stage play designs, and not only did they do stage play designs, but they did stage play designs in 2050, right? 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.600 Like the the the airplane scene, right? 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:55.440 Yeah, the airplane scene. 00:11:55.519 --> 00:12:06.799 They the you have the way that they did it was that you know, in in real like real life, so to speak, real life 2050, they had like a technical, you know, screen, like the most advanced screen you could have. 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:18.080 And they had these guys actually in a prop plane, and then that was port portrayed onto the screen as if the audience was still watching them, even though they're in that prop plane behind the screen. 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:25.039 And then they have the the rotating, you know, Dais in the tribunal speech where he's in front of like the EU, right? 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:33.600 Like all of these are stage play setups that they filmed as if you were watching a movie in a stage play. 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.799 I I mean that that's where I get to the technical masterpiece, right? 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.399 Like Ineratu did an incredible thing with this. 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:45.360 It's really a shame, honestly, that it was such a box office flop. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:51.919 Because I would love to see more movies that were made like this, right? 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.399 Like that would be the ideal. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:55.519 You know, as if we saw that. 00:12:58.559 --> 00:12:59.200 I mean, two years. 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:06.159 And unfortunately, it was a it was a strikeout, right? 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:08.080 It's it's kind of ridiculous. 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:22.159 I mean, you we do hear a lot of oh, I want, I want real movies, I want, I want new ideas, I want fresh ideas, I want original scripts and movies, and then when one comes out, nobody shows up. 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:30.080 And I'm starting to wonder, is like, do you just really want another fresh take on Batman? 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:38.399 Do you just want another fresh take on an IP that you like, and that's what you mean by original movies? 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.279 Or do you want to test the scales a little bit? 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:50.960 Because we're only gonna get those original movies that take swings and are exciting if if we accept movies like this. 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:56.639 And what the problem that I'm seeing is dude, Digger is just gonna give it away. 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.639 Digger's a good movie. 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:03.440 We're gonna get to uh we're gonna get to our scores right now, and then we'll continue on this side. 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:08.639 But I think that before we go into the things that we really liked about the movie, we should give our scores. 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:15.840 But Digger's a good movie, and and you're right, not enough people saw it. 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:21.759 So I'll be honest about the ceiling on this movie. 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.159 It's just a little too weird to be a 10. 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.480 There's a level of uncomfortability in it, right? 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.159 Some of it's on purpose, some of it's a little too much. 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.679 Technically,

it's incredible, the concept is cool. 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:42.559 Tom Cruise's performance is potentially the best of his career. 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.799 We'll talk that a little bit later. 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:52.000 But I didn't walk out like oh, I just feel so good, and I loved this movie. 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.519 I wanted to talk and argue about it. 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.000 And so for me, Digger gets an eight. 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:08.480 Honestly, so, and I love here's what I love about that score, and here's what I love about any score that I see. 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.480 Digger may just be the most divisive movie that I've ever seen. 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.679 It might it may be the most divisive movie I've ever talked about. 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:24.799 Because if somebody told me, yeah, Digger's a one, digger's a two, digger's a three, four, I would go, okay, I get it. 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:33.120 But if somebody told me that Digger was a seven, eight, nine, or ten, I'd also get it. 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.840 Like I maybe I wouldn't get the ten, but I would get up to the nine. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:45.279 I would it would, there's there's pieces of this movie that make me understand how somebody could get there, right? 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.759 And here's what I'll say about it: it's tropey, it's over the top. 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:57.519 When I walked out of this movie, I was at a four out of ten. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:05.120 I was just like, I dude, I just don't know what I just watched, but it's fucking weird. 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:14.879 But then I started talking about it and I started thinking about it more, and it stuck with me, especially the dystopian world ending and Tom Cruise's performance. 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:21.120 I'm like, wow, he is Digger Rockwell, whoever the fuck that is, right? 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:28.480 So as I thought about it over the next couple days, I was like, man, this isn't a four, and it's not even a five. 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:33.120 Five, it's too, it's too good to be a five, right? 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:38.080 It's probably the best worst movie I've ever seen, right? 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.960 So I think I'm gonna land. 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:48.399 I landed on a seven, seven out of ten. 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:58.879 That being said, when it comes to movies that are seven out of tens, it's among the best that are at that score, right? 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:05.599 Because it sticks with you, it starts conversation, and that's that's what I love so much about it. 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:11.839 My favorite, absolute favorite thing about this movie, dude, is it is laugh out loud funny. 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:17.359 I mean, I was in the theater with six other people, and I was laughing my ass off. 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:21.440 I was having so much fun with Digger. 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.359 I didn't laugh during the Odyssey, you know? 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.519 I'm not saying that I should have. 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.279 I'm just saying, like the experiences at some point have to be comparable. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.000 During the Odyssey, I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.039 But Digger, I'm laughing. 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:42.160 I'm invested. 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:43.680 The twists are getting me. 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:48.319 Tom Cruise is drawing me in, as silly and as fucking goofy as it is. 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.799 I was having a great time. 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:52.319 Seven out of ten. 00:17:53.119 --> 00:18:04.400 You know, I think it's funny you bring up that the funny part because that's one of the things that I saw, you know, as I was looking at what the critics had to say and you know, trying to understand, okay, so why was this panned? 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.079 You know, and a lot of people said exactly that, right? 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:15.440 Like variety was like, you know, this is basically an SNL caricature, but Tom Cruise went full method. 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:21.920 You know, Boston Globe gave it zero stars, said Cruz overacts embarrassingly. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:27.039 Dude, I thought the caricature, like, you know, they're they're like, oh, this is a Saturday Live caricature. 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.119 Yeah, it is a caricature. 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:29.599 It is. 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:31.839 The movie tells you it's a caricature. 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:36.000 Tom Cruise talks about how it's a caricature, right? 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.240 And Cruz is doing two performances at once. 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:45.279 He's he is the cartoon character, and he's the guy who's like, dude, this caricature is so hard to play because it's just so ridiculous, right? 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:46.079 Yeah, it's so ridiculous. 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.359 And he and he and he comes out and he's like, dude, I know this is a cartoon. 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:53.839 But the thing is, is it's it's one of the best performances of his career. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.279 It's hilarious. 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.400 I was in the movie theme theater against seven people. 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.279 I was laughing out loud, right? 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:08.960 I I think that um, you know, time I I think it was Times Out was like, don't believe anyone who tells you that this isn't funny. 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:09.839 And I totally agree. 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:18.640 Like there were there were several laugh out loud moments, not just like haha, but like barely laughing, right? 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:24.559 Like I cannot possibly not be laughing out loud at this fucking movie right now, you know. 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.000 So it's gotta be funny. 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:32.799 I think I think that some people just didn't like the joke. 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:34.160 You know what I mean? 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:35.119 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:36.400 No, no, no, that's fair. 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.400 That's oh my you I could not have said it better myself. 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:43.039 They didn't like the joke. 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:43.920 Wow. 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:56.240 Because I I'm gonna skip just a little bit ahead, uh, since we already talked about the look and we're talking about like performances and stuff, but the comedy specifically, dude, my favorite part of the entire movie, right? 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:12.000 Where I'm like, this this is the part that just made me laugh the loudest, was when he was giving that big uh what was big boardroom meeting, that one shot where he's like basically explaining the reason that I'm doing this is because you want it. 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:16.960 Essentially explain explaining capitalism and why we have it. 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:24.319 When he so he's sitting there and it's getting bigger and bigger, and he's like everybody's getting rowdy, and they're just out of nowhere. 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.720 He gets pelted with a shoe. 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:32.559 I laugh straight straight George Bush took me right back to George Bush. 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:34.720 You see that, I'm sure. 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:42.640 Where the George Bush gets the throw the shoe thrown at him, and he's like, oop, dude, it was fucking great. 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:44.720 I mean, just an Oxford loafer. 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:46.160 Boom, bro. 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:48.559 Great, great, yeah. 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:58.319 And that whole thing, like that, that that right there, that tribunal scene, the the whatever it was, European Union, you know, and I think is probably what it was trying to imitate. 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.559 Like, that's that that was so powerful too. 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.960 Like, not only was it laugh out loud, funny, but it was so real. 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:14.160 Like, you look at politics today, and I I know we've talked about this before, but like politics today is such a circus, dude. 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:27.039 Like, it is, you know, like I'm gonna I'm gonna get mad, and I'm gonna tell you I'm mad, and I'm gonna tell you why you should be mad, and I'm gonna do fucking nothing about it, right? 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.359 Absolutely nothing, because they don't actually want to, right? 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:36.559 Like, they don't actually want to do anything about it, they just want to act like they are mad about it and they want to make you mad about it, and that's the whole thing, right? 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.319 Like Tom Cruise, as digger, got hit the nail on the head. 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:55.279 Like, I I I get oil for you because you need the fucking oil, and you need the fucking oil because you want to have your Amazon Prime deliveries, and you want to be able to get your gas for three dollars a gallon, and you don't really give a shit. 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:56.480 But and that's the problem. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:58.960 It's that's the truth. 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:04.000 Like, when I was Listening to him do that, I was like, this kind of isn't funny. 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.119 Like, this is kind of real. 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:05.920 This is real. 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:07.680 And that's why people didn't like the joke. 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:09.279 Because it's like that's the shit. 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:11.119 The point is. 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:12.799 Like, that's yeah, you're right. 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.480 I do want$3 a gallon business. 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.640 And I do want my Amazon Prime delivery. 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.279 Yeah, this is this is Digger right here. 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.559 When you're pointing one finger, you got three pointed back at you. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:24.559 That's exactly what Digger is, bro. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.720 And and and that's what makes it so good. 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:28.799 It's it's it's a brilliant movie. 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:30.079 It's super smart. 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:33.359 I mean, you've talked about this before with movies like Don't Look Up. 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.799 And uh it's it's just so smart. 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:39.519 You gotta give it a little bit of credit, man. 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:44.079 And I feel like you know what's crazy is and I could be wrong about this in a couple arenas. 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:51.519 We're gonna be the first podcast that talks about Digger in full and like completely glazes over it. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.799 Like, truthfully, Chuck, I'm just gonna be real with you, bro. 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:00.160 Digger has the potential to be in my top three favorite movies of the year. 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:01.200 Yeah, wow. 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:04.160 And that's crazy with a stacked year like 2026. 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.759 Yeah, because 2026 is crazy. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:12.079 And we're gonna do at the end of the year because we've got Dune 3 tickets. 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.440 We're we obviously obviously are also gonna watch Doomsday. 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.279 We've already talked to Odyssey, said Odyssey's a 10 out of 10 movie. 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.440 So we're gonna be visiting this, right? 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:28.400 And and I I think that maybe, you know, I I can't imagine Digger being better than Dune 3 for me. 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:30.400 We've also got Werewolf, of course. 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.799 Werewolf, you know, so there's there's some competition here. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:47.200 I honestly I'd be surprised if I like Doomsday more than Digger, and I think that that's a really interesting dichotomy there because Doomsday is gonna make billions of dollars. 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:48.160 Right. 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:49.759 Not millions, billions. 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:50.559 Right? 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:55.519 Digger made eight million

dollars in the box office. 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:57.039 Eight million. 00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.599 Overall lost 250. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.400 It's uh definitely a more interesting movie than Doomsday is gonna be. 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:13.359 It's definitely you know expanding what movies can be more than what Doomsday can be, than what Doomsday is, because Doomsday is gonna be a Marvel repeat. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:15.519 Same as Spider-Man earlier this year, right? 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:21.599 Like it was Marvel to the umpteenth, and and what Spider-Man did like what two billion something? 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.039 Yeah, it did two billion. 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:24.319 Two billion, right? 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.640 And that's what that's that's what sucks. 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:36.240 You put out a movie like Spider-Man, you put him out a movie like Doomsday, you know, these Marvel movies that have the built-in audience who's gonna go see every single fucking one. 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.480 And none of them, none of them are interesting, none of them break any new ground. 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.119 They're always there, it's the same formula over and over. 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:50.000 And you do some Inoratu does something like Digger that is groundbreaking and it gets underappreciated. 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:58.160 The critics pan it, nobody goes to see it, and it's just a shame because we're not gonna see more movies, more of these movies get made, right? 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:09.599 Like they took they took uh they took a swing with Digger, and now the studios are gonna be saying I don't think we can afford to lose 250 million dollars on a swing like that. 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.920 Why don't we just make another fucking Spider-Man? 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:30.559 Well, and that's that's the interesting part is that we assumed, and we've talked about this before, we we both assumed that the Odyssey, Dune Part 3, and uh Werewolf would be our top three, and now uh in some order, right? 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.319 But now that digger's out, I'm like, nah, dude, we're we're doing four. 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:39.599 I'm gonna squeak it in no matter what, because that's how much I liked this movie and how much I think it holds up. 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.240 Because, like, yes, Spider-Man made two billion dollars, y'all. 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:53.599 Spider-Man as a character, that doesn't mean the movie itself uh deserved to make two billion, two billion dollars, right? 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:55.599 Same thing with Doomsday. 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.880 Like, I just I'm I'm listening I'm down with Marvel. 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.559 I'm down, I'm always gonna be at the theater to see Spider-Man. 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.279 I'm always gonna be at the theater uh to go, dude. 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:08.000 I Dr. 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:11.279 Doom is one of my favorite comic book characters, right? 00:26:11.440 -->

00:26:28.720 I'm gonna be there, but it's never going to get me the way that something like like Digger does that's surprising, that's new, that's like trying to rejuvenate what it's like to go to the movies. 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.880 And when I go to the movies, I yeah, go for it. 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.920 So you mentioned Birdman. 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:43.599 Yes. 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.640 I don't know how Birdman did in the box office. 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.279 I have a I have a feeling it didn't do that well in the box office. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:58.720 But what I do know is that Birdman got best picture. 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.519 Yes, yes, it got best picture. 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.000 So I haven't seen Birdman. 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:04.880 You have. 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:09.519 I know that Birdman is another one that's about a an actor in a stage play, right? 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.759 Like a failing actor or like an over-the-hill actor in a stage play. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:22.720 What was what was different about Birdman that the critics loved it versus Digger, where the critics just absolutely panned it? 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.599 I don't so that's the thing. 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:37.440 I don't know, because I would say that Birdman, if Birdman is better than Digger, it's not by much, right? 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.000 Like it because the the two ideas are so different. 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:54.240 Like honestly, they are like, yes, Birdman isn't a satire per se, and and and Digger is a really strong one, right? 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:55.279 And maybe that's it. 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.119 Like at the beginning of the episode, that's kind of what I said. 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:01.599 It was like, it seems like satires like this, you either lean one way or the other. 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:14.240 Most of the times, critics, if it doesn't go towards and hot take, Sue me, if it doesn't go towards some agenda, I feel like they're just gonna pan it no matter what. 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:22.400 And Birdman is more of a mental health movie, right? 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:30.640 And I don't know if it's the imagery of Birdman, I don't know if it's Michael Keaton's performance. 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:35.920 Definitely don't think that it should have won best picture, right? 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:40.960 Like, I I mean the revenant best picture, right? 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.920 That that's that's best picture material. 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:51.920 Um, but but I don't really know because I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that birdman is better than Digger, but I wouldn't say Digger's better than Birdman. 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:57.599 They're they're kind of on the same playing field with each other, even though they're different and have different ideas. 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:03.039 You know, and another one that you invoked was don't look up. 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.599 And there's a clip that we

have on Instagram. 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:12.400 Um, by the way, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, podcast. 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:17.119 If you're listening right now, you've probably already found us on Apple Music or Spotify. 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.680 You know, give us give us a rating, give us a fair rating. 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:20.720 We appreciate those. 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.640 Trying to drive more people to the podcast. 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.920 Because as y'all know, if you're here, the podcast is where the real good conversation happens, right? 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:32.079 The Instagram clips, they're cool, they're fun, they get lots of views. 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:42.240 But you know, what we what we're really in this for is because we just love talking movies and we love talking about movies with y'all and you know, and and and and having the conversation with you. 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.960 So any interaction, you know, bring it in. 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.960 Um, but you know, I think the the really interesting one is don't look up, right? 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:50.559 Back to where I was. 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:51.759 Don't look up. 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.480 I previously was like, hey, it's a really smart movie. 00:29:55.119 --> 00:30:02.240 After we watched Digger, we me and Blake were sitting on the couch and we watched Don't Look Up again. 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.119 And honestly, I kind of gotta walk it back a little bit, right? 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.640 Don't look up was not nearly as smart as I remembered it being. 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.680 It was really over the top. 00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:22.480 And Digger's also over the top, but in a way that is truly so much smarter, right? 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:23.200 Don't look up. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.519 Don't look up hits you over the head. 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:31.200 You know, you've got the the president that's fucking Donald Trump as a woman, right? 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:37.440 You've got the president's son, who's literally Don Jr., cocaine habit and all. 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:39.759 And the funniest part of the movie. 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.039 Yeah, he is, right? 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:46.880 And and so, and you've got the newscast, like it's just like everything is like, yeah, it's on the nose. 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:52.240 Digger, the cool thing to me is like there's there's so much stuff in there, like the layered part. 00:30:52.319 --> 00:31:02.400 We've already talked about some of it, you know, but before the EU, you know, just really speaking to hey, politicians love to act like they're mad, but not actually, right? 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.119 The level four mask and the compliance is freedom, dude. 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:14.799 One of the coolest parts when you were when you're in when you leave the movie theater and the lights come on and they start, you know, danger level four, danger level four. 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.960 Oh my god, dude, that was like wow. 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:23.279 Like I had like literally like the back of my neck, the hair on the back of my neck was just raised as I'm like, fuck. 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:33.599 Because that feels like that is the like that that is the future that we are steadily fucking marching towards, right? 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:34.000 Right. 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:42.400 You know, the the Greenland call where the scientist comes up and he's like, hey, like we need to shut this thing down. 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.519 Like this is this is really bad. 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:48.079 And Digger's like, man, you know, it's like he treats it like a baseball analogy, right? 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.039 And he like does a swing and he's like, we just gotta get more hustle. 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:56.720 You know, we gotta hustle to first base, we gotta get this done about you know, getting the output up, right? 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:01.599 And and me, I'm in a corporate space, like we're seeing that to the umpteenth right now. 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.640 Like you're doing, you gotta do more with less. 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.480 You know, you're sitting here and you're like, I'm kind of concerned about the shit that's going on. 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.039 And your bosses are like, Yeah, fucking work harder, you know, do more. 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:14.720 I don't really give a shit, right? 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:23.759 The the cabinet when they came and you were like, you know, John John Goodman's character comes in, and he's like, Well, you know, we find ourselves in quite a pickle here, don't we? 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:24.319 Right. 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.759 And and like and and the and the thing that I noticed there was what happened what did we see? 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:36.799 The entire cabinet and you know, political apparatus, the government, came to Digger, right? 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.240 They came to the oil guy, and you were talking about the the ExxonMobil executives, right? 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.079 And like that's that's real life too. 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:48.240 Like people were like, you know, they care so much about the the the politicians and what they're doing. 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:48.960 Guess what? 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:56.079 The politicians aren't doing anything themselves, they're answering to the business people, right? 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:57.119 These tycoons. 00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.039 So, like all that stuff, right? 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.480 Like you're you like it's it's not it it's kind of it's subtle in a in a way, right? 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:20.160 Like it's it's not it's an over-the-top caricature of a movie, but there's these like subtle elements that like to your point, you left the theater at a four and they talked about it, and you talked about it, and you talked about it, and you're like, damn, there's like there was more depth here,

there's more layers. 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.720 I can't wait to watch this movie again, dude. 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:31.440 Because I'm gonna see I'm gonna see so many more things, and I'm gonna be like, holy shit, like this this movie has a lot of depth to it. 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:51.200 Where a movie like don't look up, I watch it again, and I'm like, oh, this is actually like it's funny on it on the surface, and it's like haha, you know, like on the surface, but then you start digging into it more, and you're like, you know, there's just not a lot of substance here, but there's a ton of substance, and there's a ton of layers to digger. 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:57.359 Well, and that's the thing, is so before Digger, I would have said, uh, and you know, hear me out here. 00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:05.039 I would have said that Adam McKay was the the best at site at satire. 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.480 I mean, he all of his movies kind of have an element there. 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:14.880 I mean, look, you got you you do have Don't Look Up, which it's big short it the big short. 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:20.159 Um Vice, yo, if you like if you like Digger, watch Vice. 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:21.360 Vice is good. 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.920 Um, yeah, I mean, even Anchorman. 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.719 I mean, Anchorman's a satire, and it's it's hidden more beef. 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.559 Especially Anchorman 2. 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.360 Anchorman 2 brings the satire home, right? 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.119 With the whole 24-hour news cycle. 00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:33.840 And that's one thing. 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.760 Like, I'm not gonna say Anchorman 2 is better than Anchorman 1. 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:38.800 It's not. 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:48.480 But Anchorman 2, from a message perspective, has such a powerful message about and it and it kind of all feeds into this thing that we're talking about, right? 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.760 Like, why do we care so much about politicians and why is it such a circus? 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.440 Well, the 24 hours news cycle, right? 00:34:53.519 --> 00:35:03.119 Like, 24-hour news cycle came out, and now they gotta keep us listening all day long about nonsense and keeping the stories going and getting clicks and increasing. 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:04.480 And now we gotta make sure. 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:05.360 Hit that nil. 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:12.079 Now we gotta make sure, now we gotta make sure it's on everybody's timeline and it's it's on everybody's feed, you know, all the time. 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.159 So I completely agree with you there. 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.159 And the thing about, you know, a thing about like Vice, right? 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.679 Like when I watched Vice, I was like, damn, okay. 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.440 Like, this that's a character, you know, the Dick, the Dick Cheney character. 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:36.480 But the thing about Digger, when

I saw it, it's like it's it's almost the perfect representation of what I want satire to be. 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.639 Dude, Digger is fucking punk rock, bro. 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.239 Like, it really is. 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:50.480 He's got he's saying something, it's extremely backhanded, it's got so much fucking attitude. 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:56.719 Make satires like that again, like give movies a fucking backbone again. 00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.119 It's like we we were we were on the MCU. 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.800 Spider-Man being Spider-Man, five out of ten, right? 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.679 Being Spider-Man being Spider-Man is great. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:13.119 I would be a lot more excited and okay with just going to see Spider-Man if I had some fucking punk rock movies like Digger. 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:30.320 You know, like speak to me in ways that I want to be spoken to, the way that my attitude every day is being at work, the way my attitude is, how I think about this stuff on our on me and Chuck's unrecorded podcast that you'll never hear, the 6 a.m. 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.119 Stoics. 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.039 This is this is the way that we this is the way that we see the world. 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:41.440 And Digger put that into like a frame for us. 00:36:41.519 --> 00:37:00.639 Like, I love that part where they go and they meet John Goodman at his house, like the president at his house, and they're going back and forth, and then the camera goes from the set to like, and then it turns, and then you see that they're on the set, and you see that there's empty seats, like they're just doing the dress rehearsal. 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.719 I love that part. 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:12.239 That's where it was like, we're not only breaking the fourth wall, we're making this choice to say we are living in a fucking play. 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.519 That's what this is, it's all fucking entertainment. 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:16.880 Laugh at it, bro. 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.440 It's okay. 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:30.079 We do we were literally just if you guys haven't heard it yet, go back and listen to our comedy episode because this is exactly what we were talking about, and it makes me want to move Digger up even more just talking about it. 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.079 Yeah, yeah, man. 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.960 Digger was Digger was absolutely incredible. 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:52.480 And you know, you know what, I think that to your point though, that's part of the you know, I was I was talking with I actually went and saw this movie with Bailey, which by the way, don't go see it with your wife or girlfriend, because this this I will say, like being real, like this is a man's movie. 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.639 Like this, this is a man's movie. 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.199 Uh women, no failing of their own, they're not gonna like it. 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:05.599 They made he they made some choices in this to make it into something that really only men can men can enjoy. 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:06.000 Yeah. 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:30.762 Um, but even then, you know, part of the problem is not only do they make it a movie that only men can enjoy, but I thought my laptop could last through this shit, but it could not. 00:38:32.922 --> 00:38:42.523 That's the one thing about this fucking beast mode of a gaming laptop dude is that it sucks power like a motherfucker. 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.800 you know, like comparing it to a don't look up. 00:38:53.280 --> 00:39:04.159 You know, don't look up I I think it's probably if I had to if I had to say, I think it's probably more aimed at a liberal audience overall. 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.920 You know, especially with some of the caricatures of of Donald Trump and stuff. 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:15.360 And we're also gonna talk, spoiler, we're gonna go to one battle after another as well in this episode. 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.920 We got a lot of hate over one of our previous takes on one black one battle after another. 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:26.400 So we re-watched it to see if we if we agreed with our original take. 00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:30.000 And uh I'll let I'll, you know, I'll leave that for a little bit later in the episode. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:36.159 But one battle after another is another one that is is like squarely aimed at the liberal audience. 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:45.360 And and that, you know, what's actually crazy is so I I I'm just gonna say, like, I'm not I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative. 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.239 I am you know very much have my own opinions to your point about the six six a.m. 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:51.280 stoic conversations. 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.840 On our s on our on our last episode of 6 a.m. 00:39:54.000 --> 00:40:00.880 Stoics, I think we both found that we are both have our own opinions on both things. 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.360 So I I I'm I stand with you. 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:08.159 But the thing is, is like, you know, one battle after another, squarely aimed at the liberal audience. 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:17.280 The comments in that were all about how we must be MAGATs and you know, this, that, and the other, because we didn't get one battle after another. 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:18.960 Or maybe I just didn't think it was good. 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:20.719 I don't know, it's could go both ways. 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:26.400 You know, um, don't don't look up another one that's squarely aimed at that liberal audience. 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.880 I that's that to me is where Digger wins over movies like that. 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.920 Like, I don't think this was a movie that was aimed at a liberal audience. 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.800 I don't think it was a movie that was aimed at a conservative audience. 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:47.519 You know, I think it was aimed at people like us who just like see the world

and say, dude, we're doing some fucking stupid stuff in this world right now, right? 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.159 Like some wacky shit on all sides, man. 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:56.559 It doesn't matter, liberal, conservative, like the the teams, spoiler, the teams are made up, bro. 00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:03.519 It is a my team versus your team so that we can fight each other, and that's what they fucking want. 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.880 That's what the people like digger want. 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:16.320 And what's crazy is like when you when you look at it through that lens and you realize how long we've been doing it that way is is actually kind of crazy. 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:17.599 It's dude. 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:19.760 Listen, we'll get back to this later. 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:32.079 I I disagree about what I actually, you know, when I watched one battle after another, I actually came out of it liking significant, not significantly, I I did end up liking it more than the first time that I watched it. 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:37.599 Um, and honestly, what I walked away from is that I don't think it was pointed at anybody. 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.679 I just think that the audience chose a side, whichever side that is. 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:47.280 One bell after another. 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:48.079 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:56.400 I I really do not think that it was aimed anywhere, and it could be because of like subtle comments from Leonardo DiCaprio's character. 00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:05.920 Uh, you know, I mean, yes, I think that the visuals and the storyline overall definitely lean towards that left side for sure. 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:18.559 But again, I think that there were some elements there that were like uh, you know, we're not choosing a side, it's kind of whichever whichever one appeals to you is the side that you're gonna take. 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.599 Well, liberals really did lap latch on to it. 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.280 I mean, that's listen. 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.320 We learned that in the comments section, let me tell you. 00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:32.400 And and you know what, you know, that's actually interesting that you say that because as you say it, I agree, right? 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:40.320 Like, I I like the first time that I watched One Battle After Another, I didn't view it as like this is aimed at liberals. 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:55.679 The only reason that made that made me feel that way is the comments that we got on our one battle after the another clip, where like they were come like coming out of the woodworks to just be like, if you hated this movie, you must be a Magatard, right? 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:07.360 Yeah, like and and I and even on rewatch, man, now that you mentioned it, like even on rewatch, like I still don't get like a overwhelming liberal, like liberal agenda from it. 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.360 You know, maybe PTA had that in there, but I I I don't get it. 00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:19.679 But clearly the like bleeding heart liberals who watched that movie, that's what they took from it. 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:20.320 Yeah. 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:31.519 Well, I do think that listen, man, I think that we are all influenced and peer pressured to be influenced in a certain way nowadays. 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.519 I mean, like, listen, I'll put it out there. 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.320 So if you guys follow us, you know, like we're everywhere. 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.360 Uh, we're we're actually about to start cooking up our Patreon. 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:40.559 Our Patreon is made. 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:43.280 We're gonna start being doing some Patreon episodes. 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.360 Uh, we're on Instagram, you know, we're on YouTube, we're literally everywhere. 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.119 Apple Podcasts, Spotify. 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.199 So check us out if you're enjoying the show. 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:59.119 Um, one of the things though is we we posted a video about I am legend, and uh it did really well. 00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:07.119 And so Somebody came out uh and and made a made a comment on there basically saying that we don't read. 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.239 And or you know, what was what was the joke, Chuck? 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.239 It was like like try reading a book. 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.480 Try reading a book because I am like for once. 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:14.960 Yeah. 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.320 Yeah, so exactly. 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.000 Try reading a book for once. 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:25.599 Um, so I said don't have time to read, too busy trying to read the what the tattoo says under your mom's bush. 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.239 Now, listen, is that a nice thing to say? 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:29.199 No. 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:35.679 But if you're gonna come at me trying to be clever, I'm gonna do the same thing. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.159 And here's the thing, I didn't mean it in any bad way. 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:50.480 Like it's honestly like me and Chuck talk to each other like this all the time because it's guys being dudes being bros type thing. 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.239 That's the attitude of the show. 00:44:52.320 --> 00:45:05.920 We're called bad critics for a reason, and it's mainly it's because we aren't going to be influenced by the real critics or the good quote-unquote critics that are calling Digger trash. 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:12.000 Like, we're gonna go and watch the movie and we're gonna tell you what we really think, and we're not gonna lie about fucking Spider-Man either. 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:18.559 I mean, like Leonardo DiCaprio is one of my he is my favorite actor. 00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:43.440 I think that he does a good performance in one battle after another, but to compare it to something like Tom, like if you don't go see Digger or you never see it, you are missing out on an amazing performance, not

just by Tom Cruise, but just by somebody that just with this role proved to me, wow, this guy can still fucking act. 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.039 Which leads us to Tom Cruise. 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:52.320 I mean, Tom Cruise is the epitome of the leading man. 00:45:52.880 --> 00:46:06.000 I mean, and when you're a leading man like Tom Cruise and you're a Hollywood superstar, you know, you end up a lot of the times just playing yourself. 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.719 That and that's most of that's most of his filmography, right? 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.440 Like Mission Impossible, Top Gun, a few good men. 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:24.559 I mean, I could continue, but it's always Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise, right? 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:40.079 And Digger is one of those times where you get to see Tom Cruise put on a performance that is outside of the Mission Impossibles and the um what was that movie? 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:49.840 The Day of Tomorrow, Oblivion, Edge, Edge of Tomorrow, Oblivion, all these movies where Tom Cruise is just playing Tom Cruise. 00:46:52.880 --> 00:47:02.000 So I think we should do that instead of harboring on all of those, where it's hey, this is Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise, uh Rain Man. 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:08.719 Uh let's do top five Tom Cruise movies slash performances, however you want to roll with it. 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:17.760 You know, but this is this is interesting because I do have a Tom Cruise top five performances ready to go. 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:24.800 Um spoiler, the movie we just spent probably most of an hour defending is on it. 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:41.760 But you know, I actually think that that Tom Cruise it's crazy because Tom Cruise, of all of the actors, you know, to your point, like he is the epitome of a leading man and he does play himself, and there's no one else that could do it better. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.960 I think Back Digger is so interesting because he didn't, you know, do that. 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:55.519 But I think one of the movies that we have to talk about when we talk about Tom Cruise's best performance is the one that started it all. 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:07.039 And this is an important part of Tom Cruise because it is the legendary run of Tom Cruise doing his own stunts. 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.760 And that's Mission Mission Impossible 96. 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.159 Wait, is this your fur this is your five? 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:15.199 This is the five, yeah. 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.079 This is this is the start of the five. 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:16.880 Oh, okay, okay. 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.280 Alrighty. 00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.639 Well, you know what though, before we get in the top five, I will go ahead and give an honorable mention. 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:30.880 This is a movie that I I watched uh recently and honestly didn't love the movie overall. 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.199 We're gonna talk about this director a little bit more later

in the podcast as well. 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:41.599 But um Magnolia was a fantastic fucking performance from Tom Cruise, dude. 00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:41.840 Yeah. 00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:54.239 As the Manosphere, it's crazy now because you know, looking at 2026, we have this whole Manosphere Alpha Male bullshit thing that we have going. 00:48:54.559 --> 00:49:03.199 But like Tom Cruise in Magnolia was the manosphere alpha male before it was cool, and he crushed it, right? 00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:04.480 Absolutely crushed it. 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.599 I think his performance was the best part of that movie. 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:15.840 I think the movie overall was let down by some pacing issues and just the overall length of it, as well as some performances that were not nearly as good as Tom Cruise's. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.920 Um, but first one on my list of top five top five Tom Cruise performances is Mission Impossible. 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:37.039 In a similar vein, I think Mission Impossible itself, it really like the first one gets on this list just because it did start that legendary run of what now I don't know, we're on Mission Impossible, you know, 35 or something like that. 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:48.159 The the series has definitely gone too far, but that legend of Tom Cruise doing his own stunts is absolutely incredible and part of what makes him the epitome of a leading man. 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:49.599 That's fair. 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:50.400 That's really fair. 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.519 Listen, the Mission Impossible movies have always been exciting. 00:49:53.760 --> 00:50:07.039 I can't say that they've ever really been for me, but as far as a franchise goes, where you're like, hey, I'm gonna go to the theater, I'm gonna buckle in for an action ride, Mission Impossible is is key to that. 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:11.119 Um my number five is Magnolia. 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:17.599 So I think Magnolia is a great uh I I I think I is a great performance by Tom Cruise. 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:24.320 Um, I think it had to made the make this list because it isn't Tom Cruise. 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:34.800 Like I again, I'm going to admire the performances where he doesn't just play the movie star Tom Cruise a lot more uh than the ones where he does. 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:40.480 And then Magnolia, honestly, it kind of feels like a precursor to something like Digger. 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:46.400 You know, it's it is it's extra, it's big, but it's also really emotional. 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:56.239 Magnolia is it's a weird movie, uh, which most PTA movies are, but I think Magnolia definitely deserves a spot in the top five. 00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:01.199 I will say the best performance in the movie is Philip Seymour Hoffman. 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.159 And you love Philip Seymour Hoffman and you love that performance. 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.920 And I knew I knew you were gonna say that in response to me saying Tom Cruise

is the best performance. 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:09.519 But you know, you know what actually is it? 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:28.880 I think the coolest thing about that, to your point, is Tom Cruise shows both the manosphere alpha male side, but then you peel back that that onion, and you're like, oh no, like he is a broken shell of a man, right? 00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:31.119 And like that's why he does this. 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:42.079 I love that angle because Philip Seymour Hoffman in that movie, he's definitely the he's the softer character throughout as the hospice nurse, but you're right. 00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:48.639 I I Tom Cruise shows more range in that role than than Philip Seymour Hoffman does. 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:49.679 So I agree with you there. 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:56.639 And my next one, you mentioned it, but it is a movie that I think is criminally underrated. 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:08.800 And by the way, you know, ever after ever since the first time that I said criminally underrated on a podcast, I've realized I I've like tried not to say it, but it's just such an appropriate phrase for so many things. 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:11.840 And I've noticed that people say this across the board, dude. 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:16.239 Like every time I watch a reel now, like I'll be watching reels and some movie like criminally underrated. 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:17.599 I'm like, okay, it's not just me. 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:24.000 But no, but this movie, Edge of Edge of Tomorrow, is criminally underrated. 00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:34.800 And you know what I love about it is that when we were just talking about with Magnolia, where Tom Cruise, the first time he's on screen, he's fucking Billy Badass. 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.760 And then you know, you start seeing him. 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:41.519 Oh, like, no, he's not, it's all a show, it's a facade, right? 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:42.639 Like for him, right? 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.760 For him to cover this broken part of his childhood. 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:48.800 Edge of Tomorrow does that in reverse, right? 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:52.400 So he starts off and he's a coward, right? 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:56.639 Like he's a guy, he's a PR officer, he doesn't want to go to the front lines. 00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:09.920 He literally like go like has to get arrested to go to the front lines, and then he dies over and over and over until he earns being the hero that he's supposed to be. 00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:30.480 So where you have like the Tom Cruise, like he eventually is Tom Cruise, but he has to work to get there because he starts off being a fucking coward who you who is not Tom Cruise at all, some loser officer in the military, and he becomes Tom Cruise through a whole bunch of dying. 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.400 Wow, that's so interesting. 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.280 That's on your list. 00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:38.719 I and and I actually respect that it's there because it is an underrated movie. 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:49.039 Um, another underrated movie that uh Chuck was actually gonna defend, but then he couldn't defend it because I watched it for the first time and ended up liking it was The Last Samurai. 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:57.280 Now, I don't think it's got any business on the top five performances of Tom Cruise list, but I really did enjoy that movie. 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:04.639 The only thing I'd say is I feel like I'd enjoy it a lot more if it was edited to today's style. 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:16.320 I mean, there was still a lot of you know early 2000s stuff there that I feel like wasn't really working for period pieces at the time and still are kind of hard to look past, uh, even when you're watching them today. 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:27.199 That being said, if it was edited more of a, you know, dark night or no, no, not dark night, Batman Begins vibe, I feel like it would have been a lot better. 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.280 Uh, next one for me at number four. 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.599 I don't know if you've ever seen this movie. 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.079 Have you ever seen Risky Business? 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:35.920 Of course I've seen Risky Business. 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:44.639 Bro, I was a I was a five I was a Fide Elt, and Fide Elts do a risky business party every year as one of our primary parties. 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:53.760 Okay, well, Risky Business actually isn't the movie that's I'm sure you can understand why, because you know, yeah, yeah, it's it just it it works. 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:55.280 I I hear you. 00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:03.599 Uh actually if you're familiar with the iconic, you know, white uh white button-down scene, you know, you know what I'm talking about. 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.039 Um, Risky Business actually isn't the movie I'm gonna talk about. 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.880 It's actually the movie that became before Risky Business. 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.039 It's called Losing It. 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.239 Losing It is criminally underrated. 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:18.320 So this is a young Tom Cruise. 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:26.079 He's playing a fucking nerd, and him and his buddies, they it dude, this is like a um sex drive. 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:34.559 You know, it's a teen sex comedy, and it's about these these nerds that get together and they make a pact to lose their virginity. 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:36.960 It's like the original American Pie. 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:37.920 No kidding. 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.079 I've never heard of this movie, dude. 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:42.480 Bro, it's fucking hilarious, dude. 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.079 I saw losing it. 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:54.880 I actually, the first time I saw losing it was because my dad rented it at a blockbuster when I was young, and he was like, This is like revenge of the nerds. 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.480 This is like, you know, it's like American Pie. 00:55:58.960 -->

00:56:01.119 Dude, great Tom Cruise. 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:03.360 Tom Cruise as a nerd, bro. 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:12.239 Like, and he plays it so well because he kind of gives this like first 10 minutes of Dustin Hoffman and the graduate, but like more nerdy. 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:13.440 Interesting. 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.920 You have to you have to see losing it. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:23.280 As as somebody who's such a big fan of Days and Confused, and everybody wants some, you'll fucking love losing it. 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.519 It's on um Amazon Prime, on Amazon Prime right now. 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.360 I'm definitely gonna have to see this. 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.280 I have to see this for sure. 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.400 That is so interesting. 00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.079 I've never even heard of it, man. 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:35.760 Yeah, it's fantastic. 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.719 You'll I think you'll really, really appreciate it. 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:45.440 So my next one is one that you know, you talked about Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise. 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:52.480 This is Tom Cruise as Tom Cruise, just an absolute fucking legend. 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:58.559 You've probably heard, you know, every cruise impression that you've ever heard is probably from this movie. 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:03.280 You know, I think about the scene where, well, I'll just go ahead and say it. 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:09.760 It is Jerry Maguire, and it is all right, you know, the scene where Jerry Maguire gets fired, right? 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:19.039 He goes out with his with his box out to everybody and he gives this impassioned speech, you know, who's gonna follow me, right? 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:24.480 And then Dorothy and the fucking goldfish are all that follows him, right? 00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:30.400 And it's just dude, I mean, everybody remembers this fish, everybody remembers the speech the speech from Jerry Maguire. 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:35.599 You know, again, Tom Cruise as Tom Cruise, doing it like nobody else can. 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.880 Jerry Maguire has to be on the list of top fives. 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:40.960 You know what's super sad? 00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.199 I've never seen Jerry Maguire, dude. 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.960 Yeah, well, I I mean, not seeing losing it is one thing. 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.800 Not seeing Jerry Maguire, dude. 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.639 I know you have to have to see Jerry Maguire, man. 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:59.519 I think if you haven't watched Jerry Maguire in a while, throw it on there. 00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:01.920 You know, a little Saturday, Sunday action. 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.800 You know, watch Tom Cruise just be the king. 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:06.719 He has so much charisma, dude. 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:07.519 That's a thing, right? 00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.800 Like Tom Cruise is just, I mean, infectious, right? 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:16.079 Like, he's a he it you know, uh, you know how Jared Leto started a cult, right? 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:17.840 Um Tom Cruise, dude. 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.880 Jared Jared Leto has no business starting a cult. 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.159 Like, I don't know why anybody would follow that fucking loser, right? 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.440 Tom Cruise, on the other hand, oh wait, he he is an occult. 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.400 I forgot. 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:31.840 Yeah, Scientology. 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.639 He's uh Tom Cruise is our favorite Scientologist. 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.360 He is, dude. 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:44.000 You know, but you know what's it's kind of it's actually kind of crazy that Tom Cruise doesn't lean more into the Scientology. 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:52.960 I feel like if Tom Cruise really, not that he I know he's like a fifth degree black belt superhero, you know, however the Scientologists do it, right? 00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:59.360 Like, has seen Wachao Hihunama, you know, the the alien that's gonna come down, you know, Tom Cruise knows it all. 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.800 Um he's probably gonna he's probably gonna get our podcast canceled for him bringing it up. 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:03.760 But that's the thing, right? 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:08.719 Like, why you know why is Tom Cruise like so like touchy about the Scientology thing? 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:16.960 If he leaned into it and he was just like, Yeah, I'm a Scientologist, and that's why I'm such a fucking badass, people be like, fuck, I need to be a Scientologist, bro. 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.599 Well, you I mean, I think you said it best, bro. 00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.880 It's because he's a superhero, real life superhero is into soccer. 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:27.440 Uh no, hey, top three, top three for me. 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.079 Speaking of Colts, eyes wide shut. 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:35.039 Oh shit. 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:35.760 Yeah, dude. 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:37.119 Uh eyes wide shut. 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:38.320 Uh fuck. 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.400 So so I stayed away from Eyes Wide Shut for a long time. 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:53.199 I I honestly don't know why, but I actually saw it uh a year ago, year or two ago, and honestly was was was really impressed. 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.760 I mean, I liked Eyes Wide Shut a lot. 00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:06.719 Uh, it's one of those movies that afterwards, you know, I thought about giving it a lower rating, but then the more that I sat with it, the more that I really liked it, the more I talked about it, the more I heard conspiracies about it. 01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:08.559 I really, really liked it. 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.960 Obviously, it's Kubrick, you know. 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.559 I actually went back and I watched Doctor Strange Love. 01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:19.119 Doctor Strange Love might be Kubrick's worst movie, in my opinion. 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.719

Which is funny as we as we've been talking about Digger, right? 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:31.920 Because Digger is very much, I mean, maybe not inspired by, but there's a lot of similarities between Digger and Doctor Strange Love, right? 01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:32.960 Yeah, exactly. 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:33.679 There is. 01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:37.599 I mean, their their satirical elements are very, very similar. 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:44.880 And actually, when I walked out of Digger, the first movie that I thought of where I was like, man, I want to rewatch that now is Doctor Strange Love. 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.199 So um, but Eyes Wide Shut. 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:51.599 Um, I really like Tom Cruise's performance in Eyes Wide Shut. 01:00:51.840 --> 01:01:01.840 Um, I think it's one of his best because he to truthfully, I honestly think that Tom Cruise is playing himself in the movie against his own will. 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:11.360 Like he he he's like frantic and he's kind of losing it and he's concerned and he's it but it all kind of seems real. 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.559 You know, I mean, because it probably was. 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:26.480 I mean, imagine, you know, hey Tom, I need you on set, you know, and it's well, I want you to watch for your character, you know, to get into character, I want you to watch your wife have sex with somebody else, you know. 01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:26.880 Yeah. 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:34.159 Um, because Tom Cruise, if you don't know, Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were married up until after uh Eyes Wide Shut. 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:37.280 Uh, if you've never seen Eyes Wide Shut, I don't want to give too much away. 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:41.599 Just know that I do think it deserves a spot in the top five. 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.639 I think it deserves a spot in the top three. 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.280 Really good performance by Tom Cruise. 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:53.519 At first, I feel like it could kind of be underwhelming, but the more that you watch, the better it gets. 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:55.360 Yeah. 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:55.840 Yeah. 01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:58.079 Eyes Wide Shut is an interesting one. 01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.199 That is the exact opposite of Jerry McGuire to me, right? 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:10.639 Like, that is where, to your point, Tom Cruise plays a guy who's in a in some really uncomfortable situations and is himself. 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:14.800 I mean, like, he's so uncomfortable throughout the whole movie, right? 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.880 Like, he is not in control at all, at any point in that movie. 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.559 And that's kind of an interesting thing, an interesting difference. 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:32.400 And that and that's why I was actually thinking about it, because I think Eyes Wide Shut is one of his best movies that he's in. 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:33.360 Agreed. 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:44.559 To me, it's not one of his best performances, just because it like it is such a I don't know if it's the right word, but it is like it's a more subdued performance. 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:45.760 You know what I mean? 01:02:47.599 --> 01:03:08.800 That's that's fair, but I think that that's why for me, subdued's the perfect word because it definitely is, but that that's also honestly the reason why I do think that it does deserve a spot because I don't we don't ever see Tom Cruise subdued in such a way where it's like this guy's going the fuck through it. 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:34.880 And he at times in Eyes Wide Shut, which is really interesting, is like he tries uh like when he's talking to uh the concierge or he's talking to the girl at her apartment, he's trying to pull out this Tom Cruise charm, which is always so easy for Tom Cruise, and you visually feel that him, that Tom Cruise of all people being charming is difficult. 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.519 That's what makes the performance so good. 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.320 So, number two for me. 01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:58.559 This is one where Tom Cruise goes toe-to-toe with one of the best actors to ever do it, Jack Nicholson, in a courtroom, and he doesn't give up. 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:00.159 A few good men. 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.960 And what's incredible is this one was early, dude. 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:04.079 92. 01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:06.960 This is young Tom Cruise. 01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.039 And he looks so young in that. 01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:10.639 He does, he does. 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.719 He looks like he's fresh out of college, right? 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:14.559 Because he is, that's the whole thing, right? 01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:24.480 Like you have this like fresh out of college, young Jag guy who's going up to uh going up against Colonel Jack Nicholson, right? 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:35.280 And you know, he has the the I mean, like there, there's that there's like incredible cross-examination of him where Jack Nicholson ends up blowing up on the stand, right? 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.280 Right, because that iconic scene. 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:39.519 Because Tom Cruise goaded him into it. 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:48.800 And I mean, that's like for for this one had to make the list, especially because we see that star power so early on, right? 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.400 Like Tom Cruise. 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.840 I had you know, I had Mission Impossible 96. 01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:02.400 He was a young guy, he's doing his own stunts, even today in 2026, and the new Mission Impossibles that come out, he's doing his own stunts. 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.800 Like that's I I mean, it's incredible, right? 01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:26.800 Digger, he's he's breaking new ground, he's bringing new levels to this, and you see that all the way back to the very beginning of his film filmography with something like A Few Good Men, which is, I mean, one of the best, if not the best, courtroom drama

movies of all time, with a young Tom Cruise leading that movie. 01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:29.920 It's definitely up there. 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:37.599 You know, I don't know if I would put it above like a time to kill or even to kill a mockingbird. 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:42.800 I mean, I feel like those in the in the you know, courtroom drama space, at least to me, I really enjoy. 01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:44.400 Uh, but dude, you're right. 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:58.000 What I love that you said Tom Cruise going toe to toe with Jack Nicholson not flinching is crazy work because I mean that that just sells his star power and his talent. 01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:59.760 Because, dude, even my favorite actor. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.519 Leonardo DiCaprio. 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:07.519 When him and Jack Nicholson shared the screen, I told you on this last viewing of the departed. 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:16.639 It seems like Leo has to overact to try and compete with Nicholson. 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.840 And maybe it's just because he knows that he can't. 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:21.679 Maybe it is because he's trying. 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.159 Tom Cruise did not have to try. 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.599 He was in that shit. 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:30.000 And he was he he was on par. 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:37.760 He wasn't as good as Nicholson, but he was on par with what what had to be in that movie. 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.920 I mean, that I that is one of the most iconic scenes in movie history, right? 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.559 The you can't handle the truth. 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:45.760 Amazing. 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.400 And Tom Cruise is giving it right back. 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:50.239 I want the truth. 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:53.039 I mean, really, really selling it. 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.400 It's a heated moment. 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.679 It was pitched and brought up the right way. 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.000 Love that it's on your list. 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.719 Number two for me is Interview with the Vampire. 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:10.480 There's been a lot of people, dude, that have played Lestat the Vampire. 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:25.199 None of them can reach the posh punk, haunting, sexy Tom Cruise Lestat in Interview with the Vampire. 01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:27.119 And I mean, listen. 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:35.760 Is it possible to say that Tom Cruise in Interview with the Vampire is hotter than fucking Brad Pitt in Interview with the Vampire? 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.760 It's hard to be hotter than Brad Pitt. 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.320 It's really hard to be hotter than Brad Pitt. 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:40.639 Yep. 01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:42.320 And fucking Tom Cruise. 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:44.880 And Tom Cruise does it. 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:52.239 He's he's kind of giving this like Lestat is who Bill Skarsgard and Osferato wishes he could be. 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.679 Like Interview with the Vampire

is. 01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:03.280 Interview with the Vampire is the best vampire movie ever made. 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:05.840 It's Tom Cruise's second performance. 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.920 He's so fucking punk rock as Lestat. 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.280 I mean, it's like watching Barry Linden Undead. 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:13.679 Yeah. 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:14.880 Fucking amazing. 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.039 Yeah, Barry Linden Undead. 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:17.680 Man. 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.880 What a what a great what a great comparison. 01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:24.800 So, number one for me. 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.159 We've building up to it this entire time. 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.000 Best performance of Tom Cruise's career. 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:33.920 You want to count it down? 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:36.960 Three, two, one. 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:37.920 Digger. 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:38.800 Digger. 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:40.720 Digger is also my number one. 01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.479 I mean, wow, dude. 01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.640 I mean, he is just killing it. 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:47.359 And you're right. 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.279 It is charactery and it's big and it's goofy. 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:53.520 I mean, he's a fucking dork. 01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:58.159 But I can't see anybody else doing it that well except for Tom Cruise. 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:03.359 And like, I'm watching him, like, right as he gets out of that meeting and he does like the finger gun. 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:03.840 Bang! 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:04.319 Bang. 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:04.960 Yeah. 01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:07.119 And he like puts it back in the holster. 01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:21.600 And I'm sitting there going, dude, Leonardo DiCaprio just did a scene like this in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when he gets back into the his trailer and he starts like going off, you know, like and and like kicking around the trailer and stuff. 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.000 I'm like, and this is better. 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:26.319 This is so much better. 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:37.279 Like, Digger, Digger is Tom Cruise's best fucking performance in his entire career, and you didn't fucking see it. 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:39.119 Fucking watch it, dude. 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:39.840 It's that good. 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:40.399 Did it? 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:46.960 Digger's a you have to you and and to your point, like you you could give this movie a one. 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:56.800 And you would still have to admit that this was a fucking incredible performance from Tom Cruise. 01:09:57.359 --> 01:09:58.720 It's inarguable. 01:09:59.199 --> 01:09:59.520 Right? 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:03.119 And and and that and that to your to the point we've been talking about this whole time. 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.359 Right? 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:05.279 We've got some movies where Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise. 01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:06.239 Mission Impossible. 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:07.600 It's Tom Cruise, right? 01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:08.800 Like the stunt man. 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:15.840 You know, it's Jerry Maguire, Tom Cruise, the charismatic, you know, just leading man, the epitome of. 01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:17.680 And then you have something like Digger. 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:20.319 Digger is not Tom Cruise. 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.720 Like he is Digger. 01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:26.479 That's it? 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:27.520 Enough said. 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:28.399 Yeah. 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:32.000 You have to watch Tom Cruise as Digger. 01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:56.079 And even if you don't agree with the movie, you don't like the two elements, you think the twist is poorly timed, cool, whatever, you can argue all that stuff all day long, you cannot say that Digger is not an incredible fucking performance by Tom Cruise, one of the best actors to ever do it. 01:10:58.960 --> 01:10:59.920 1000%. 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:09.920 And now, now that we've waxed on poetic about Digger, um, we're gonna introduce a new segment. 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:11.600 We haven't done this in a while. 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:16.399 We're introducing a new segment, um, the rewatch verdict. 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:29.119 So uh earlier on in the episode, we did talk about uh that we both rewatched one battle after another uh because uh because we posted a video saying that we didn't really like it and that it was just bad. 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:37.359 People accused us of not knowing who Sean Penn was when we were talking about who the fuck his character was because we just thought his character was bad. 01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:42.159 We both rewatched it, so welcome to the rewatch verdict. 01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.239 One battle after another. 01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:49.600 Chuck, after re-watching it, I've got it at a six out of ten. 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:54.800 And I also have it at a six out of ten. 01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:56.239 Wonderful. 01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:02.079 Which I believe is you can go, you can go watch the podcast again. 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.640 We won't be mad if you go listen to the podcast again where we talk about one battle after another. 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:07.680 That is perfectly fine. 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:08.560 Go for it. 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.000 I believe come into the comments, let me know if I'm wrong. 01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:14.399 I believe I had it at a five out of ten to begin with. 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.760 So I think it got one extra star on the rewatch. 01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:20.000 I didn't have it rated. 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:40.800 Honestly, I I never really rated movies like that in honestly, until about a month before we actually started the podcast, and I had to really start thinking about what I would rate things, so I didn't have one battle after another rated, but I would say that I was comfortably around that five out of ten as well.

01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:50.800 Um and here's the thing: even on re the first time I watched it to now, my favorite parts of the movie are Leo and Benicio del Toro. 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:51.359 Absolutely. 01:12:51.600 --> 01:13:03.359 Leo is giving a good performance here, it's a fun performance, it's a comedic performance by Leo, which obviously um since one battle after another, he's been leaning into. 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:12.479 And Leo isn't somebody that I would have ever considered being a comedic actor, and he actually does it really, really well, and that's what makes this movie so fun. 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:32.720 I really wish they would have spent more time on them overall, and like maybe edited it in a way where they got more screen time because that's what's doing the heavy lifting for that six out of ten rating for me, because I just don't like Sean Penn. 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:38.319 I don't think he's funny, I don't think the character's funny, and I even tried to watch it through that lens. 01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:40.560 I just think that he's kind of weird. 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:43.680 I think that the boner scene is weird. 01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:50.880 I also think that the main character, like the main character of that first act, um what was her name? 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:52.159 Perfidia. 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:55.520 What's her last name? 01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:57.279 Well, she has like a street name. 01:13:57.520 --> 01:13:59.840 Uh it's oh fuck, it's perfidia. 01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.720 This actually gets to part of the problem with the movie, right? 01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.000 Is this the first third, right? 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:21.840 You have the revolutionary stuff, the French 75, you know, perfidia, the raids, lockjaws obsession. 01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:31.680 That should be such an exciting part of the movie that I like could not possibly forget her name. 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:40.319 Because there's that there's that thing, right, where she's like, you know, I am and it and perfidia Beverly Hills, right? 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:41.119 Yeah, that's what it is. 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:44.560 I am perfidia Beverly Hills, and you'll remember my fucking name, right? 01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:45.760 Like, that's the boner scene. 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.720 And then it's forgettable, and it's forgettable. 01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:54.399 That should be the most exciting part of the movie, and it should have been so much better. 01:14:54.560 --> 01:15:03.600 You know, it's the premise, it sets up the whole thing, and at the end of the day, I'm struggling to remember that her name is fucking perfidia Beverly Hills. 01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:04.800 Right. 01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:15.520 Well, and the same thing with Sean Penn, like you have the, in my opinion, one of the worst introductions to a character that I've ever seen. 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:23.119 I mean, the like when when like they meet each other and like he's there, and then next shot is him with a boner through his pants. 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:26.159 I don't I don't want to see that, bro. 01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:28.000 It's not funny at all. 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:29.520 It's just weird. 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:44.720 And like I said, what keeps on drawing me back to this movie where I'm like, man, I would love to watch that again, is the performances by Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio Del Toro, Del Toro, and Chase Infinity. 01:15:45.279 --> 01:16:08.720 Like, there's a part uh where where I at first I wasn't like really jazzed about Chase Infinity, and I was just like, okay, she's playing a daughter, but then there's the scene where um one of the revolutionaries finds her and they're in the bathroom, and she's kind of telling her the plan, saying, Hey, listen, you know, your dad said, as long as we have one of these, if you ever heard that, I should go with anybody that I say. 01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.439 Okay, so this is what we're gonna do, and she was like. 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.439 This gets to the point of the movie again. 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.960 One of the revolutionaries finds her in the bathroom. 01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:23.119 Bro, it's it was perfidia, bro. 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:30.159 No, yes, yes, she's the one who picks her up and is like, I'm your mom, and takes her out to the convent. 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:31.920 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:33.520 Different, different, different chick. 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:34.880 But they look very similar. 01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:36.000 Are you sure? 01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:37.279 I promise. 01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:39.199 I promise. 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.760 No, her mom never shows up again. 01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:45.439 You're right, yeah, bro. 01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:51.840 You're right, because when they get when they get her out to the convent, they're like, you know, she doesn't know the truth about her mom. 01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:52.800 You're right. 01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:56.239 Okay, but that gets to it again. 01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.560 This revolutionary is so forgettable, right? 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:08.479 That like I thought she was perfidia, you thought she was an other revolutionary, you know, revolutionary number two, right? 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:12.720 Yeah, that's uh Regina Hall. 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.279 So Chase Infinity just says one word, just one, or not one word, but she says, yes, ma'am. 01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:23.600 And the way that she said it, I could truthfully feel like the fear of the situation going on, right? 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:28.960 Other than that, it's still Leo and Benicio. 01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:32.880 They're holding the movie together, they make it funny, they make it exciting. 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:36.159 Everything else is just kind of a blur, bro. 01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:42.239 And before anybody comes after me or us, I understand the movie. 01:17:42.399 -->

01:17:44.960 Like I get what you're trying to do. 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.520 I just don't like it. 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:50.640 I like those pieces of it. 01:17:50.800 --> 01:18:01.680 Yes, I admit, I would have liked a Leonardo DiCaprio Benicio del Toro buddy comedy movie to be the end result of this more than what we got. 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:01.920 Yeah. 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:02.880 100%. 01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:03.840 Yeah. 01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:06.079 And and that and that's the crux of it, right? 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.399 The first third, bad. 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:28.319 That that like I when we when I watched the trailer, and we didn't talk about this, but I think that was a big part of the problem with Digger, is that because of the way the movie was, you couldn't you couldn't really trail her much more than that first act, you know? 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:29.600 Um yeah. 01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:49.359 But with one battle after another, when you watch the trailers and you do see like that first act with like perfidio with the you remember the machine gun, you know, as she's pregnant, yeah, right, shooting the machine gun, and you see the revolutionary stuff, you're like, oh shit, that looks cool. 01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.119 And you see Leo and Benicio, and you're like, dude, right? 01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:54.880 And the trailers got you high. 01:18:55.279 --> 01:19:02.399 I remember I was watching the trailers for this movie, and I was like, dude, this movie's gonna be fucking incredible. 01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:11.600 And then I watched the movie, and the first part I was like, this feels like an extended setup. 01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.720 Okay, it's gonna get better, and then it does get better, right? 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:23.920 You have the middle third, Leo, Benicio, bumbling buddy cops, so to speak. 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.199 I know they're not cops, but like buddy cops just is what comes to mind. 01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:28.239 Great movie, right? 01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:37.439 Paranoid, stoned, Bob, being, you know, escorted through the raid by the chill karate sensei that is Benicio. 01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:41.279 He's just he's just like calmly running this underground railroad. 01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:44.000 He's like, dude, we're chilling, like, I'm not even worried about it. 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:52.079 And then you get to the last third, and I'm again, I'm back to like, okay, the colonel stole the daughter. 01:19:52.399 --> 01:20:00.560 He's doing a a weird, like nuclear, you know, nuclear football type paternity test. 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.159 Like, what the fuck? 01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:03.760 It's just silly, right? 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:18.399 And like the the paternity test happens, and then there's that that long car chase through the hills where it feels like it goes on forever, and it just fucking lost me, dude. 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:20.720 It's it's kind of like this, right? 01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:28.800 It this is this is this is the the movie starts low, comes up because the second half is where it hits, and then it comes down from there. 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:33.920 It's like the second act is the best act of the movie, it should have just been extended. 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:43.600 Very literally, they could have taken the perfidia Beverly Hills bit, they could have cut it down instead of it being 30 minutes, it could have been five to ten minutes, right? 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.520 Or yeah, it could have been 10 minutes. 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:58.319 Had the second act really, really spread out, and then spent 20 minutes on the on the third, you know, and that would have, I think, really, really sold it for me. 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.119 Um, so yeah, I'm I'm at a six out of ten. 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:06.640 That being said, though, to pivot again, Leonardo DiCaprio's performance is good. 01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:18.159 So, quick, quick treat for you guys, just like we did with Tom Cruise, we're gonna do a top five Leonardo DiCaprio performances. 01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.800 Spoiler, one battle after another, it's not fucking on. 01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.399 Not on it, definitively not fucking on it. 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.239 I you know, he he's great. 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:33.600 He he he's great as the paranoid stoned, you know, extra lit revolutionary Bob. 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:42.560 Um, he is he is, and and it I think it's funny before we move on from one battle after another, you know, the comments just to clarify. 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.840 I knew that the colonel was fucking Sean Penn. 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:46.640 Yeah. 01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:47.199 Okay. 01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:54.800 Yeah, because the You didn't need to tell me that Colonel Lockjaw was played by Sean Penn, right? 01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.640 Um, I knew his name. 01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:58.319 I still know his name. 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:00.800 I still think the Colonel sucks. 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:04.000 I mean, yeah, bro. 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:13.119 But you know, the the the thing about the thing about it is though, is like Bob is it's a cool character for Leo to play. 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:20.479 It's a fun character for Leo to play, which I think it is more exciting and more fun than other Leo characters. 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:22.319 I mean, like, think about it this way. 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:29.520 Leo has played a lot of characters that are very Leo coded, like bro, Gatsby. 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:37.359 If you were to ask anyone before that movie came out, yo, who should play Jay Gatsby and the great Gatsby? 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:39.039 The answer was Leo. 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:41.279 Yeah, he's perfect for that role. 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:42.000 Right. 01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:42.960 You know what I mean? 01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:51.680 Rick Dalton in Once Upon a Time, fun character for Leo, and it was a good performance,

like great performance for Leo. 01:22:52.159 --> 01:23:19.600 Jordan Belfort, and here's a hot take: Leo is the only fucking person that could have played Jordan Belfort like that because he's perfect for the role, and that's why Jordan Belfort isn't going to show up on my top five performances for Leo, same way Rick Dalton isn't, and same way Jay Gatsby's not, because those are just perfect for Leo. 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:27.039 It's not even that he was typecast, it was just like who can play Jordan Belfort, Leonardo DiCaprio. 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:36.960 The other ones on my list, I don't maybe besides one of them, Leo isn't an obvious choice. 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:42.239 I'm interested to see what yours looks like, and I'll go ahead and get us started. 01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:48.239 Um, to your point, nothing we've talked about tonight is gonna make Leo's top five performances. 01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:58.960 The first one on it is one that I'm I don't I don't know if you're gonna if you're gonna put it there, but it is Billy Costigan in The Departed, right? 01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:05.680 And and I think that one of the things that Leo does better than anybody else, right? 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:38.479 Leo has the Leo stuff, like you were talking about, but he also does this thing, and and it's gonna show up a couple times in this list where he it's actually funny, man, because that we're doing the uh Tom Cruise performances and the Leo performances in the same episode because uh you know Tom Cruise he does best when he is that charming guy, right? 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:42.720 The Jerry Maguire, the Magnolia, right? 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:58.640 Leo does his best when he is not that guy, charming, or he can be charming, but he's also uh in a sense a degenerate. 01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:00.960 I mean he's kind of a degenerate in the departed as well. 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:02.159 That's the thing, right? 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:08.560 Like, dude, he's literally like he's he's on edge that entire movie. 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.720 He's in he's uncomfortable that entire movie. 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:18.159 He's literally like shaking to his fucking bones the entire movie. 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:24.640 And what's incredible is that he never lets any of those mobsters see it, right? 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:27.279 He is the mole, he's the undercover cop. 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:38.560 I think we've talked about this, and like you knowing that he's that guy, you can see it, but he's but he's not letting it not letting it across, right? 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:43.039 And like I gotta imagine, like, as an undercover cop, like imagine being in that position. 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:44.159 That's how it'd be, right? 01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:49.680 Like, you're fucking the entire time you're sitting there thinking to yourself, like, I'm about to fucking die. 01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:52.319 I'm gonna I'm gonna get a fucking bullet to the back of my head. 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:54.720 And that's what Leo puts across. 01:25:54.880 --> 01:26:05.600 The guy who like at any point in time could be getting a bullet to his fucking head, and he's gotta hold it together, and that's why Billy Costigan has to make the list. 01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:11.760 He he so recency bias, it's not gonna make the list for me. 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:17.439 Uh just because, like, like I said, last time I watched it, I've seen The Departed so many times. 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:18.960 It's one of my favorite movies. 01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:22.319 Um, it just felt like overacting the last time. 01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:24.800 Uh, then again, I'm completely wrong. 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:31.359 I'm gonna watch it again in like a year from now, and I'm gonna be like, no, it's one of the best performance, one of the best movies ever made. 01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.159 And I'm, you know, I'll bring it there. 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:37.520 Um, it didn't make this list for me this time. 01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.960 That being said, yeah, dude, Leo is going through it. 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:45.840 He is, I mean, there's not a bad part of the departed. 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.640 Everybody is just firing on all cylinders. 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.880 Even Mark Wahlberg, who's got like this much screen time. 01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:55.359 Everybody's doing a great job in the departed. 01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.039 I'm glad that it's on your list. 01:26:57.279 --> 01:27:00.880 Number five for me, Shudder Island. 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:04.880 I love Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in Shudder Island. 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:07.760 It's my favorite Martin Scorsese movie by far. 01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:10.880 I do like Shudder Island more than I like The Departed. 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:13.039 I think it's a 10 out of 10 movie. 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:15.439 Him is Teddy Daniels. 01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:24.159 He he he has that same twitchiness as Billy Costigan does. 01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:34.800 But what I love about Shutter Island, specifically on a second watch, is that you can see this man malfunctioning as you go through the movie. 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:41.119 And it's just not something that I would ever expect from Leo in that way. 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:42.720 Right? 01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:48.960 He he's just he's brooding and he's kind of fucking awkward. 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:52.960 I mean, like his clothes don't fit right, they're all a little bit too big. 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.039 He's manic, but then sometimes reserved. 01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.600 That's why I kind of use the like malfunctioning. 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:01.039 Word bit. 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:08.319 Um, but yeah, dude, I think Leonardo DiCaprio Leonardo DiCaprio as Teddy Daniels had to be on the list for me. 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:20.159 So the next one for me is Leonardo DiCaprio as Howard Hughes in The Aviator. 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:26.880 The way that he

plays this descent into madness, right? 01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:29.680 And it's the same way like you were talking about Shutter Island. 01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:35.920 It's the same kind of thing, but it's also totally different, right? 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.840 Like Shutter Island, he is a guy in a mental assignment. 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.319 If you haven't seen Shutter Island yet, you know, hates hate to spoil it for you. 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:45.840 You should have watched it sooner. 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:52.720 But in Howard as Howard Hughes and the A-Breater, he's the richest guy in every room that he walks into. 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:55.840 I I don't know, I don't know how just how rich Howard Hughes was. 01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:01.279 I'm pretty sure he was one of the absolute richest men in the world at the time. 01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:05.520 And he was also a crazy person who had OCD. 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:06.800 Exactly. 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:10.800 And you know what, you know when I was talking about the departed, right? 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.039 He's shaking the whole time and he never lets anyone see. 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:16.399 Dude, it's the same way. 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:26.079 I don't know how recently you've watched The Aviator, but watch his watch Leonardo's DiCaprio's hands in that movie. 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:27.520 Yeah. 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.479 He adopts, and this is what's so interesting. 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:45.840 I'm two movies in, and I'm thinking about how I'm gonna describe the next three, and every time I'm gonna describe it as Leonardo DiCaprio as name of character. 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:46.960 Right. 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:54.479 And what's so interesting as I'm thinking about this is looking at the way I describe Tom Cruise. 01:29:54.800 --> 01:30:00.880 I don't know that in any of those movies I just describe Tom Cruise as, except for Digger. 01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:01.680 Digger. 01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:06.560 And I think this gets to, you know, Tom Cruise, one of the best to ever do it. 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:17.359 Leo is on a different level because he takes on all of these different characters, every single one of them, he is that character. 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:21.199 And in this one, he is Howard Hughes. 01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:22.640 Yeah. 01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:25.359 Um amazing performance. 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:28.319 Love, I love the aviator. 01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:34.800 Um, and it's it's kind of crazy because Leonardo DiCaprio is perfect for Howard Hughes. 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:45.279 Like he's got the look, he's got the charm, he's got the charisma, and what's so exceptional about that performance is the descent into madness, right? 01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:49.439 Next for me at number four, catch me if you can. 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.800 It is one of the best performances by Leonardo DiCaprio. 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:59.199 Again, this is a role that he is he was meant

to play this role. 01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:00.880 It is so much fun. 01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:06.880 He is, I mean, he's a con he's one of the biggest con men in American history. 01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:16.399 Uh basically, you know, him and Tom Hanks, again, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio as a younger actor playing off of somebody like Tom Hanks. 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:16.960 Yeah. 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:18.560 Doesn't bat an eye. 01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:20.239 They are perfect in this movie together. 01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:27.840 Catch me if you can is like it's a Spielberg movie that doesn't feel like a Spielberg movie. 01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:28.560 Yeah. 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:33.199 And it is just per Catch Me If You Can't is a 10 out of 10 movie. 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:34.159 Bar none. 01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:37.680 And again, who is Leonardo in Catch Me If You Can? 01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:39.840 Yes, Frank Abignale Jr. 01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:42.000 He is Frank Abignale Jr. 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:43.760 That's it, right? 01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:45.359 Like, he's that person. 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:55.680 And I, you know, hey, I never met Howard Hughes, I never met Frank Abignal Jr., but I gotta imagine that that that Leo is is just them, right? 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:57.520 Like, I mean, you know what I mean? 01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.000 Like, I I I can't imagine them being any other way. 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.000 I was actually just loading up. 01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:05.199 I was gonna be like, yeah, you know, when I think about Frank Abignell Jr. 01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:09.359 or Howard Hughes, I think Leonardo DiCaprio. 01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.600 And then I was thinking, I was like, who else do I do that to? 01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:12.960 Oh, Oppenheimer. 01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:14.079 That's Killian Murphy. 01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:22.640 And I was like, it's probably just because I like it's probably just because of a Cinephile that I do that, but you know, we're gonna explain it that way for the clips. 01:32:22.880 --> 01:32:30.800 But I, you know, no, and you know what's so interesting is you you did catch me if you can, you did, um, you know, Shutter Island. 01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:41.119 And man, you know, Leo has so many great performances, but those were those were two where I was like they were they were fighting for those spots. 01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:50.640 Yeah, you know, it it is really hard to put together a list of top five Leo performances because the same it's the same way, dude. 01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.920 Like I for I forget his name in Shutter Island. 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:56.399 Um Teddy Daniels. 01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:57.600 Teddy Daniels, right? 01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.560 But like aka Andrew Latis. 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:04.560 So, you know, like Shutter Island, you know, him as Frank Abbenel Jr. 01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:05.840 in Catch Me If You Can. 01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:10.960 Dude, he just Leo, Leo, everything he

touches is absolute fucking gold. 01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:19.039 And one of my favorite movies, I think it's actually still my favorite movie. 01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:20.479 I don't know, actually. 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:24.319 My number one, my number one on this list might be might be above it. 01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:39.600 But my next one for Leo is gonna be Leo playing a plantation owner named Calvin Candy unbelievably well, right? 01:33:40.319 --> 01:33:47.600 I think this one is so interesting because Leo is usually the good guy. 01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:49.199 Right. 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.720 Django, he is a villain. 01:33:52.960 --> 01:34:06.800 You know, I think that there was not this is what's so interesting about Leo, is like I don't even feel like he has to do, you know, Christian Bale, Daniel Day Lewis, they do the whole like method acting thing, and they really get into those characters. 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:17.600 Like, I I Leo doesn't do the method acting in the same way as them, but he takes on those characters so well. 01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:34.319 And in this case, like you think about Calvin Candy, I I immediately go to obviously the dinner scene where he's talking about you know the phrenology of the black, you know, the African American. 01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:40.880 And old Ben and he he breaks the skull and he cuts his hand. 01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:46.880 And by the way, him cutting his hand, that wasn't intentional. 01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:48.399 Yeah. 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:56.159 And he stays in character and he keeps it going, and he walks you through this and you're like, oh fuck, dude. 01:34:56.239 --> 01:35:08.800 Like I like this this is this is the way that a plantation-owning Calvin Candy, you know, would have thought about African Americans back in the 1800s. 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:09.520 Right? 01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:16.319 Like he he he would see that he would see that that fucking skull and he'd be like, they are lesser than. 01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:22.000 And he and and it you're just like, wow. 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:33.199 You know, Django has so many elements that are kind of silly, you know, especially with all of the speaking of blood, all of the blood. 01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:45.760 I mean, it is such a gory movie, which by the way, Marion Webster gore does equal blood at Instagram commenters. 01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:50.880 Um, but you know, the thing is is what it's such a gory movie, it has so much blood in it. 01:35:51.119 --> 01:36:02.880 And the thing about like Calvin Candy's role is like in in that movie that is kind of it like it at moments it takes itself really seriously, at moments it takes itself not so seriously. 01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:09.840 You know, there's some ridiculous shootouts, like Calvin Candy, that movie feels so grounded to me. 01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:10.880 Yeah. 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:14.800 Where you're just like he's the best wow, he's the best part of the movie. 01:36:15.359

--> 01:36:17.920 Calvin Candy, he's the best part of the movie. 01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:24.319 He's the most he's the most fun to watch, and Leo just like out. 01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:35.119 I mean, first time you lay eyes on Leo in that movie, you are locked in, and you're like, what the fuck is this creep gonna do? 01:36:35.359 --> 01:36:36.640 Was that your number three? 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:37.920 Number three. 01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:40.000 Okay, go ahead and give me your number two. 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:42.000 I thought uh you're up next. 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:44.399 Yeah, my number three was Django Unchained. 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:44.960 Oh. 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:47.600 Anything to add? 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:50.079 You said it perfectly, bro. 01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:53.279 Honestly, like I everything that you said, I was gonna say. 01:36:53.439 --> 01:37:00.960 The only thing that I will say about it is like there that's so that scene is great, but I also think the scene with the dogs. 01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:01.840 Oh man. 01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:09.439 Right, dude, he is so menacing, and he's such a fucking dirty, slimy prick. 01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:17.680 And you you fucking it's like you're talking about always sunny, you just like to see bad people do bad things. 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:23.119 He's such a horrible character that you cannot take your eyes off of. 01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:24.479 You really can't, dude. 01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:34.880 And and like the mandingo fighting, like I it's so interesting because we we have this in in modern day, right? 01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:39.359 Like, UFC is modern day mandingo fighting, right? 01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:47.359 Like, there's there's there's something about watching people beat each other up for sport that gets eyeballs, right? 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:48.239 Yeah, yeah. 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:52.079 And you see it, and you see it in a Calvin Candy, dude. 01:37:52.159 --> 01:38:01.920 Like, that is a guy who he's invested in his mandingos, and he has he has the best fucking mandingos that there are, and he knows it. 01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:05.359 And you said it like he's a he's a he's a fucking prick, right? 01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:14.000 He's a raging asshole, and he's got a shit ton of money, and who the fuck are you to come onto his property and tell him he's wrong? 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:27.840 And on that note, speaking of raging fucking pricks, my number two is again Leo as a raging fucking prick in the modern day, in an entirely different way. 01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:31.119 He is iconic as Jordan Belfort. 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:34.319 All right, and you know what I remember to Jordan Belfort. 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:44.239 You know what I love about Wolf of Wall Street compared to you know, we've talked Django, we've talked Aviator, we've talked Shutter Island, we've talked departed, we've talked uh Catch Me If You Can. 01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:50.319 Wolf of Wall Street is his funniest performance. 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:51.920 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 01:38:52.239 --> 01:39:08.479 And not only is Wolf of Wall Street Leo's funniest performance, one of Leo's funniest performance, it is also one of the best comedic performances ever given. 01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:10.159 Yeah, yeah. 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:21.520 Leo Leo really sold the entire spectrum um as Jordan Belfort, being that character, doing drama, doing, you know, but but really it is the comedy. 01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:24.960 I mean, and it's such realistic comedy. 01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:27.520 This is how boys talk, guys. 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:28.800 I mean that's another one. 01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:29.680 This is how they talk. 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:31.039 We were talking about Digger. 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:32.560 Digger's a man's movie. 01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:35.199 Wolf of Wall Street is man's movie. 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:36.960 Definitely, right? 01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:38.800 And you you talk about the comedy. 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:46.479 One of the things that I love about it too is it's not just the verbal comedy, it's the physical. 01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:48.560 It's the physical comedy, yeah. 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.399 Like I think about the Lamborghini scene, right? 01:39:52.640 --> 01:40:05.039 Jordan Belfort, high to the tits on Quaaludes, doesn't know how to fucking walk, inching down the steps to his car, bro. 01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:09.680 I mean, crashing the car the entire way home. 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:16.000 I it this goes back to like it's like silent comedy era. 01:40:17.279 --> 01:40:17.680 Yeah. 01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:18.479 Routine. 01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:22.880 It's very, it's uh who is not Buster Keaton. 01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:24.079 It's very chaplain. 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:24.720 Very chaplain. 01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:27.840 You know, like the yeah, very chaplain. 01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:28.960 And I love I love that. 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:30.560 No words. 01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.840 You're fucking laughing the entire time. 01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:36.640 The cerebral palsy phase. 01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:38.079 Love that, dude. 01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:38.560 Wow. 01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:47.279 I mean, listen, I I already said, you know, if you're if we're if we were putting together like a you know, best best movies list, best performance list. 01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:48.319 You're right, dude. 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:51.920 It's so hard because he is one of the fucking best. 01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:55.119 And Wolf of Wall Street definitely deserves to be on there. 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.640 Number two for me, we won't spend too much time on it. 01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:05.439 My number five movie of all time in my top five movies. 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.119 The Aviator. 01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:10.079 The Aviator is an amazing. 01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:14.319 Um it's it's it's Leonardo DiCaprio's second best performance, no question.

01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:16.159 Him as Howard Hughes. 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:17.680 I know I pitched William H. 01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:21.279 Macy, and I do think that that would have been really cool and maybe a lot better. 01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:23.920 But I mean, it's one of my favorite movies of all time. 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:28.239 There was no way that I could leave it off this list for his best performances. 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:32.960 Has to be on the list of best performances. 01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:35.359 So that was your number that was your number two. 01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:37.680 That was my number two. 01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:40.479 I'm really, really curious to hear what your number one is. 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:49.680 I can't even I can't even like wrap my brain around what's left right now unless you're going fucking Rick Dalton. 01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:54.000 But I wouldn't think that that would be the case. 01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:56.319 You're either going Rick Dalton or Titanic. 01:41:56.399 --> 01:41:56.960 I don't know. 01:41:57.199 --> 01:41:58.159 I'll be honest. 01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:03.359 Rick Dalton was immediately knocked off the list for me. 01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:04.000 Okay. 01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:12.239 You know, um, I it's not that I don't think he was great as Rick Dalton and uh Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:15.760 I do think he was great as Rick Dalton and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:24.000 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a 10 out of 10 movie for me, but it is a 10 out of 10 movie for me because of Brad Pitt's performance. 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:26.000 Okay. 01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:27.760 That's fair. 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:43.920 This is a movie that I and I don't know if you clipped this, it might have been clipped, but once upon a time I said that this movie was not that great. 01:42:46.000 --> 01:43:13.840 And then I re-watched it, and I saw Leonardo's Deca Leonardo's ability to play a beaten, bear-mauled man dragging himself through the wilderness with barely any dialogue, and this gets back to that physical ability that Leonardo DiCaprio has. 01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:22.880 Hugh Glass and The Revenant is the best Leo performance of all time. 01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:25.520 He got his Oscar on it. 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:37.039 Our boy who made Digger in Aratu won back-to-back best director Oscars for Birdman and The Revenant. 01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:39.840 Oh, so he did win best director for the Revenant. 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:40.479 Yes. 01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:41.039 Yes. 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:42.239 No fucking way. 01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:42.720 Yes. 01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:43.199 Okay. 01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:43.840 Oh, dude. 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:44.640 I did not know that. 01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:49.439 The best performance was Leo Best Director was in Aratu. 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:50.880 Fantastic. 01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:56.239 And and it and both of those, I don't always agree with the Oscars voters. 01:43:56.399 --> 01:44:02.640 We are again bad critics, but in this case, they got it right. 01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:06.000 Should Leo have gotten an Oscar before this? 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:07.279 Probably. 01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:14.479 But for him, but to for him to get the Oscar for this, completely deserved, it is his best performance. 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:15.439 Yeah. 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.159 It is an amazing performance. 01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:34.159 Uh, you know, I I actually was a person that even though it is also the revenant is also in my top 10 movies of all time, it's a little bit lower than uh than than the aviator. 01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:36.960 I think it's a spot like eight or nine. 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:47.199 Um, I I actually was one person that used to say that Leo should have won his best actor Oscar for a different performance. 01:44:47.359 --> 01:44:49.279 But then I started to think about it, dude. 01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:51.840 Like the performance he gave is fucking amazing. 01:44:52.079 --> 01:45:04.560 And imagine how hard it is to act like a stoic, vengeful, like you're a fur trapper from that time as a Hollywood superstar, freezing your tits off. 01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:05.119 Yeah. 01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:08.720 Leo deserved the fucking Oscar for that. 01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.439 The revenant's fucking amazing. 01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:16.800 Honestly, dude, the revenant is a better performance than Shudder Island. 01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:19.199 It's a better performance than Catch Me If You Can. 01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:21.680 It's a better performance than Django Unchained. 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:25.119 I'm gonna, I'm actually gonna move everything down from three. 01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:35.840 So five is Catch Me If You Can, Four is Django Unchained, three is the Revenant, two is the Aviator, but number one, and I think Chuck knows where I'm going with this. 01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:44.159 Number one is Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape and What's Eating Gilbert Grape. 01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:45.760 One of his first performances. 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:49.039 Leo deserved an Oscar then. 01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:52.319 Right then, you should have given him one. 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.720 That is Leo's best performance. 01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:56.479 He is so believable. 01:45:56.720 --> 01:45:58.720 It's the first movie that I ever saw him in. 01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:02.479 And I genuinely thought he was actually mentally challenged. 01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:07.760 When I saw him in Titanic, I was like, what the fuck? 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.000 What just fucking happened? 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:20.479 What's eating Gilbert Grape has to be number one for me because it is also when we're talking about like personal favorite movies of all time, it is fucking up there. 01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:22.720 1000%, dude. 01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:24.720 What's eating Gilbert Grape?

01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:31.359 I think that we also agree that this is Johnny Depp's best performance as well at one point. 01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:33.760 Johnny Depp's best performance. 01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:34.800 Yeah. 01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:35.680 Yeah. 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:40.960 So you've got two actors with their best performance performances in the same movie. 01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:45.760 If you've never seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape, watch What's Eating Gilbert Grape. 01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:56.640 It is one of the most movies I have ever seen in my life for a myriad of different reasons. 01:46:57.439 --> 01:46:59.119 What's Eating Gilbert Grape? 01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:00.000 Chuck. 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:01.920 That's you know, how did we do? 01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:04.159 You know, that's honestly valid. 01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:20.399 Um when we talk about range, being able to play a mentally challenged person and do it as well as he did has to make the top, has to make the top five, right? 01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:22.319 We see it in Tropic Thunder. 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:24.239 You never go full retard. 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:28.399 He went full retard and he fucking delivered, right? 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:33.680 There's there's multiple performances that people look at that are similar to this one. 01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:39.520 Rain Man, My Left Foot with Daniel Day Lewis, um about Sam. 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:40.399 Is that what it's called? 01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:41.279 Sean Penn. 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:43.359 And I've seen those performances. 01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:48.399 I think that they're good, but nothing touches Leo's performance in What's Eating Goober Grape. 01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:59.680 What's Eating Goober Grape is an underrated movie, and Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in it is to Chuck's point criminally fucking underrated. 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.920 Chuck, how the fuck did we do, bro? 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:06.960 I think this was an incredible episode. 01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:12.319 Before we get into this, I do want to do a new segment that I'm looking to do. 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:18.399 You might have seen me uh drinking on every single episode. 01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:24.159 If you haven't noticed it yet, spoiler, I'm a I'm a whiskey man, bourbon in particular. 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.279 Um, I do like other spirits as well. 01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:29.039 I do want to plug a couple of these. 01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:30.640 These are these are shameless plugs. 01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:32.159 We are not being sponsored for this. 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:41.199 I do hope they make it into the clips at Blake, but I have been drinking the TX, which is this one is in particular. 01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:42.960 You know, I'm I'm a Texas man. 01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.760 If you don't know yet, we are from Texas. 01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:56.399 TX, I don't love everything that they put out, candidly, but I do love the barrel finish series where they finish in PX Sherry Cask. 01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:03.439 I will be drinking some other ones from Garrison Brothers, which does some sherry cask finish as well. 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:05.439 They've done a PX and an Oloroso. 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:07.119 Absolutely fantastic. 01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:16.399 Tonight from Garrison Brothers, I started off the night with the Garrison Brothers Ladybird Single Barrel Cast Strength. 01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:24.000 They take that for four years, do their normal small batch uh treatment on it, and then they take it, take the best of it. 01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:32.079 They put it in, they added some honey, they did it in a cognac cask for another four years, gave it to us at cast strength. 01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:40.800 If you see that ladybird cast strength on the shelves, I know you're gonna say, hey, that's an expensive bourbon worth every penny. 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:45.520 I'm gonna be continuing to walk you through some of the bourbons that I love the most. 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:50.720 Uh, but you know, to the to the to the point you were asking about Blake. 01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:55.920 This week we landed on a couple things. 01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.960 Digger eight for me. 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:09.199 Now a seven for Blake, and I might call out that Digger started at a four for Blake. 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:24.399 One of the biggest box office, if not the biggest, box office bust ever in the history of movies, and you owe it to yourself to watch that movie. 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:40.000 We talked about Don't Look Up, gave a little bit of a review of Don't Look Up, falls down to a six, in part because we saw Digger, which was such a fantastic movie, but was critically panned. 01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:56.960 We did a rewatch verdict on one battle after another, which was not critically panned, certified, fresh by Rotten Tomatoes, got a six from both of us, and I think it's valid. 01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:00.880 Here's what I keep coming back to. 01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:09.359 Digger is a movie about who gets to tell the story after the disaster. 01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:11.600 There's a lot of layers there. 01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:23.119 There's the nephew who buys the rights, there's the oil man that the p politicians come to, there's the politicians that uh create outrage. 01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:33.199 There's a story in this world, and you're getting a little bit of a sneak peek into some of our 6 a.m. 01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:36.560 conversations about the world. 01:51:37.439 --> 01:51:43.760 Watch Digger, identify that story, understand what it's warning you about. 01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:50.319 I'm calling it now Digger is going to become a cult classic. 01:51:51.920 --> 01:52:03.760 Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio, the stars of Digger and One Battle After Another, are two of the greatest actors ever to do it. 01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:10.079 Let us know which performances we missed.

01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:12.399 What's Tom Cruise's best? 01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:14.079 What's Leo's best? 01:52:14.319 --> 01:52:15.760 Put it in the comments. 01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:19.760 Talk to us about political satires. 01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:26.479 When you think about political satires, what's the first ones that get your brain firing? 01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:30.720 One movie in the comments, let us know. 01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:32.720 Are we right? 01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.199 Is Digger gonna be a cult classic? 01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:37.439 Is it gonna be a bomb forever? 01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:45.760 If you have a friend, if you've already watched Digger, you were one of the six that was in the movie theaters with us. 01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:49.840 Send your friend this episode. 01:52:50.239 --> 01:52:53.920 If we haven't talked to him about it, but actually wait, I lied. 01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:55.760 Don't send them this episode. 01:52:56.960 --> 01:53:17.439 Don't let him know that whenever they watch Digger, when they get out of it and they're ready to have a conversation, come join the bad critics, listen to our conversation, and then y'all get in that conversation together because it's a movie that you need to watch. 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:24.640 We are on Instagram, we're on TikTok, bad critics. 01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:36.960 Follow us, watch the clips, but go from those clips to where the real magic happens, which is the full podcast on Apple Music and Spotify. 01:53:37.279 --> 01:53:39.840 Send that podcast to all your friends. 01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:41.840 Let's build a community here, guys. 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:42.319 Right? 01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:49.600 That's what we want to drive to is somewhere where we can all listen and watch together and have these kind of discussions. 01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:55.439 If you want to get more involved in the discussion, we are starting up a Patreon. 01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.840 It's going to be cheaper than the cost of a single Starbucks drink a month. 01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:05.039 You'll get access to additional episodes, a little bit more of insight into those 6 a.m. 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:11.920 conversations, and you'll be able to start interacting with us on a deeper level, having those conversations with us. 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:16.239 We look forward to seeing you there and can't wait to talk to you more. 01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:21.119 Our first Patreon episode is going to be coming out within the next two weeks. 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:32.159 Uh, me and Chuck, multiple times we have said these things about Oppenheimer and the Odyssey being Christopher Nolan's Fire from the Gods era companion pieces. 01:54:32.399 --> 01:54:40.880 Chuck on multiple occasions have meant has mentioned Dazed and Confused and Everybody Wants Some being um spiritual sequels. 01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:46.159 So for our first Patreon episode, we're gonna be doing an episode called Double Features. 01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:52.319 Uh, we're gonna pick two movies out basically at a top 10 kind of format, right? 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:58.239 Uh two movies that we both think should be watched back to back for whatever reason. 01:54:58.399 --> 01:55:01.920 We're gonna put together our own separate list and just walk through them. 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:05.840 Uh, so that will be the first Patreon episode within the next two weeks. 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:09.920 We're really excited to get the Patreon up and going for you guys. 01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:14.479 Um here on the main page, we've got a couple episodes coming up. 01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:24.640 We don't have the full schedule as of yet, but I do know within the next few weeks, we're gonna be giving you one of Chuck's all-time favorite genres, war movies. 01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:30.640 We're gonna be doing our another top 20 comedies. 01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:36.000 We're gonna be doing 20 comedies we wished we mentioned the first time around. 01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:39.199 Uh, a little bit of a sneak peek, won't give too much away. 01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:49.840 Uh, we got some pretty cool stuff from a company, a little company that Danny McBride, one of the best comedians in the world, partners with. 01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:53.600 So catch the comment the next comedy episode for that. 01:55:53.840 --> 01:56:01.920 We got music and movies coming up, we've got westerns coming up, and we're gonna start doing a little bit more funky episodes as we go. 01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:04.640 This was a great conversation about Digger. 01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:11.840 Bro, I'm at the point where me and Chuck might just bring Digger to a nine out of ten and really go over and sell it because that's what it's feeling like. 01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.399 But that being said, I'm Blake. 01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:19.439 That's Chuck, and we're bad critics, and so the fuck are you. 01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:20.640 Have a good day.