Full Transcript for Hand Battles & Trash Talk Are Dying in Pickleball

00:02:49.340 --> 00:02:53.520 He was actually, I meant to say like, one for three, 33%. 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.360 And I spoke wrong, and he was on top of it, which I appreciate. 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.199 I was always like a good math kind of guy, you know, who keeps you up. 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:00.280 Numbers got to be sharp. 00:03:00.819 --> 00:03:01.000 Right. 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:02.460 That's awesome. 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:07.780 So, so yeah, you, I think that you went to round of 16 with Alisa? 00:03:08.139 --> 00:03:09.400 No, 32, I think. 00:03:09.580 --> 00:03:13.259 We won our first one, and then we lost to David Villiers and Cade Fahey. 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.060 A lot of good teams these days. 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:22.060 We didn't play very, I mean, Alisa and I hadn't played well, really, since Daytona, for a variety of reasons. 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:28.879 And like, not to put it on that, because everyone's dealing with the same thing, but in Cape Coral, the winds were like 40 mile an hour gusts. 00:03:28.900 --> 00:03:32.060 You know, the day before we practiced, it was insane. 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:32.620 Yeah. 00:03:32.620 --> 00:03:34.919 And so we just never got any feel or any rhythm. 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:35.319 Yeah. 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.599 And they were ugly matches, and we didn't handle as well as maybe they did. 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:51.360 I did notice that, like, what's nice, though, is you stayed on the court for quite a while after with Elise, kind of talking about your strategy and what you might do differently, which I think is kind of different for you, because normally on a loss, you're like, all right, I'm out. 00:03:51.639 --> 00:04:03.479 Yeah, I mean, but, you know, she and I established a partnership, so it's not like I'm going to bail, and we'll have the conversation later, but we're going to sit there at least for a moment and see if our initial thought about what took place is jiving. 00:04:03.819 --> 00:04:07.280 We're like both fucking way off the map, and that's not good. 00:04:07.460 --> 00:04:07.580 Right. 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:14.479 And you communicate more than most other partners you've had, I think, in between points, which I think is nice. 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:22.560 I think especially in that one, it was interesting, because I think her paddle had D-landed a little bit, and it's one of those moments where she was struggling with her drop. 00:04:22.819 --> 00:04:25.420 Like, she probably missed 80% of her drops as far as high. 00:04:25.779 --> 00:04:28.040 They're all high, and that's the opposite generally for Elise. 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:33.019 She's like 80% nut, 90% maybe even with the drop, and it was like, is my paddle? 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:38.480 So I was like trying, I didn't know whether to, like, reassure her, hey, you're fine, it's going to come, or you got to change the paddle. 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:38.879 Yeah. 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.740 And I probably should have told her, and that's actually primarily what we were talking about. 00:04:41.740 --> 00:04:46.220 Like, hey, if you think it's D-land or something, fucking tell me, and let's get that hot paddle out of there. 00:04:46.660 --> 00:04:52.199 It's hard in the moment, because you're playing, and you're trying to focus on what you're doing, you know something's up, but you're like, is it me? 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:52.759 Sure. 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:58.779 Are my nerves making the ball fucking 12 feet over the net, or is my paddle way poppier than it should be? 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:03.839 And so I think it's up to us as partners to be like, hey, that's not normal, it's not coming off normal. 00:05:04.100 --> 00:05:04.759 Grab another one. 00:05:05.139 --> 00:05:05.319 Right. 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:10.899 And Graham, you'd notice, I think, that one of the ways that, was it Devillier was targeting Elise in that match? 00:05:13.209 --> 00:05:22.529 Yeah, I mean, I don't know if people care, but it just seemed like, you know, it was almost just like a flip up, kind of, you know, high towards her head. 00:05:22.850 --> 00:05:24.310 A soft flip, not like targeting. 00:05:25.689 --> 00:05:38.610 Preparing for her counter, because she was countering, you know, like, actually trying to go for a counter from a step or two off the kitchen line, and that speed's not quite enough to stop a player like Jay from— A male in general. 00:05:38.610 --> 00:05:41.410 A male from just putting that next one away. 00:05:41.629 --> 00:05:42.509 And she backs up, right. 00:05:42.670 --> 00:05:51.069 It was like a lift at the face, she backs up, counters it as hard as she can, and then Jay's sitting there with a forehand or a backhand ready to put it away. 00:05:51.209 --> 00:05:51.350 Right. 00:05:51.529 --> 00:05:54.689 And it happened a handful of times, more than a handful of times throughout the match. 00:05:54.689 --> 00:05:57.410 I told her this, I said, that's the play when I played you last year, I would do it over and over. 00:05:57.449 --> 00:06:04.230 As soon as I see you back off the line, I have zero issue thinking you're going to hit through me, so I'm just going to pop it at you, and you can swing as hard as you want. 00:06:04.329 --> 00:06:06.730 Odds are I'm going to outhand the next one. 00:06:07.370 --> 00:06:13.189 And so, if she's going to back up off the line, she's either got to reset it, or she's got to hold the line. 00:06:13.649 --> 00:06:14.329 One or the other. 00:06:14.970 --> 00:06:15.149 Right. 00:06:15.490 --> 00:06:16.850 But yeah, it's pretty standard. 00:06:16.949 --> 00:06:20.250 In general, most girls, if you see them back off the line, you're going to make that play. 00:06:20.689 --> 00:06:20.850 Right. 00:06:20.889 --> 00:06:24.170 Very few have enough power to just sit there and just beat the shit out of you. 00:06:24.529 --> 00:06:24.649 Right. 00:06:25.569 --> 00:06:26.410 Makes sense, yeah. 00:06:26.589 -->

00:06:32.629 So, the other headlines from that particular event was that John Lucien Goins beat Ben Johns, saying Pete Player? 00:06:32.990 --> 00:06:33.290 Yeah. 00:06:33.550 --> 00:06:34.949 Tampa Bay, yeah, Lucien. 00:06:34.949 --> 00:06:36.029 You guys know him? 00:06:36.110 --> 00:06:36.810 Have you met him before? 00:06:37.269 --> 00:06:37.970 Yeah, go ahead. 00:06:38.069 --> 00:06:38.550 We beat him. 00:06:39.430 --> 00:06:40.149 We did beat him. 00:06:40.170 --> 00:06:45.449 We played him, actually, on Moneyball, and I remember playing against him and thinking, like, this kid's cardio-ish. 00:06:45.529 --> 00:06:48.649 Like, his wrists are so floppy. 00:06:49.050 --> 00:06:49.189 Yeah. 00:06:49.350 --> 00:06:52.149 He's, like, the way better floppy version, you know? 00:06:52.389 --> 00:06:52.990 Ten times. 00:06:53.269 --> 00:06:59.009 I always call Graham floppy wrist, because he, like, I don't know, the wrist is never in the right position, at least as far as I'm concerned. 00:06:59.329 --> 00:07:00.629 It just, like, flops like this. 00:07:01.129 --> 00:07:06.430 And Goins, man, his wrist is so loose and flexible, and he's doing all kinds of crazy shit with the ball. 00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:07.269 He'd be really good. 00:07:07.670 --> 00:07:07.930 Wow. 00:07:08.610 --> 00:07:11.449 So, I technically have a win against Ben Johns, another win against Ben Johns. 00:07:11.649 --> 00:07:12.949 Indirect is the appropriate term. 00:07:12.990 --> 00:07:13.490 Indirect win. 00:07:13.750 --> 00:07:14.029 Indirect win. 00:07:14.089 --> 00:07:14.250 Yeah. 00:07:14.389 --> 00:07:19.629 I beat Lucien, and then Lucien beats Ben Johns and Gabe Tardio, therefore, I beat Ben Johns and Gabe Tardio. 00:07:19.910 --> 00:07:20.129 Right. 00:07:20.250 --> 00:07:21.269 And the other one was, what, Fetty? 00:07:21.629 --> 00:07:22.009 Is that right? 00:07:22.889 --> 00:07:24.230 No, he has never beaten Fetty. 00:07:24.350 --> 00:07:25.589 That was me with Ryler to heart. 00:07:25.670 --> 00:07:26.310 Oh, that's right. 00:07:26.389 --> 00:07:26.589 Yeah. 00:07:26.649 --> 00:07:28.629 Who was your other indirect win against Ben Johns, then? 00:07:28.649 --> 00:07:29.089 There's tons of them. 00:07:29.430 --> 00:07:31.569 I can't even begin. 00:07:31.810 --> 00:07:33.970 Wait, maybe it's Wes Gabrielson. 00:07:33.970 --> 00:07:35.829 Did Wes ever beat Ben, maybe? 00:07:36.410 --> 00:07:37.029 An indirect. 00:07:37.129 --> 00:07:37.810 Yeah, I know that's a direct. 00:07:38.430 --> 00:07:40.410 Yeah, whoever Wes beats, I've beaten. 00:07:41.910 --> 00:07:43.310 Probably still a little bit better than you. 00:07:44.209 --> 00:07:47.329 Whoever Spencer Lanier beats, I've beaten. 00:07:48.449 --> 00:07:49.350 Mark those down. 00:07:49.610 --> 00:07:49.829 Yes. 00:07:50.129 --> 00:07:50.649 Kyle Yates. 00:07:50.709 --> 00:07:52.250 Whoever Kyle Yates beats, I've beaten. 00:07:53.170 --> 00:07:53.509 That's true. 00:07:53.649 --> 00:07:55.209 And he was, like, six-time

world champ, so. 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:55.490 Yeah. 00:07:56.709 --> 00:07:57.810 But, no, that's awesome. 00:07:57.889 --> 00:07:58.550 Him and George. 00:07:58.610 --> 00:07:59.610 You know George's last name? 00:07:59.670 --> 00:08:00.050 Rangelove. 00:08:00.850 --> 00:08:01.589 No, I don't remember. 00:08:01.589 --> 00:08:05.209 Both those guys train locally, play all the money balls around here. 00:08:05.649 --> 00:08:08.410 I guess they were losing too many money balls to the locals, like us. 00:08:08.470 --> 00:08:11.250 They're like, let's take it at national, see if we can win some on the road. 00:08:11.310 --> 00:08:12.610 And they found some easier players to beat. 00:08:12.810 --> 00:08:12.990 Yep. 00:08:13.290 --> 00:08:13.490 Nice. 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:13.949 Sounds about right. 00:08:14.769 --> 00:08:19.509 Yeah, that Rangelove kid used to play against my student, Harrison Shepard, in tennis all the time. 00:08:19.810 --> 00:08:21.329 I remember the little brothers. 00:08:21.430 --> 00:08:24.110 I think they had two or three brothers that would play all the local tennis rooms. 00:08:25.689 --> 00:08:27.410 Shout out to Bardemore and Damon. 00:08:27.550 --> 00:08:29.250 He's training up some players over there. 00:08:29.250 --> 00:08:33.308 He's got Rachel under his belt, and now George, and a little bit of time with Lucian. 00:08:33.470 --> 00:08:36.250 He's got a resume going as a pretty elite coach. 00:08:37.048 --> 00:08:37.190 Yeah. 00:08:39.129 --> 00:08:41.428 Yeah, I was saying that we should get him as an MLP coach. 00:08:41.509 --> 00:08:44.929 But you were saying he's probably pretty happy with his tennis coaching still? 00:08:45.250 --> 00:08:46.049 He likes to teach. 00:08:46.230 --> 00:08:47.350 He's a tennis guy at heart. 00:08:48.029 --> 00:08:50.049 UF, Gator, right? 00:08:50.129 --> 00:08:52.269 Gator tennis player, like Ryan Sherry. 00:08:52.370 --> 00:08:54.950 And I think he prefers tennis right now over pickleball. 00:08:55.330 --> 00:09:00.009 I wanted to go real quick with Pearl Gables and talk about Ben winning with Diescu. 00:09:00.649 --> 00:09:01.549 Diescu on the right. 00:09:02.470 --> 00:09:04.769 They beat Klinger and JW in the semi. 00:09:04.929 --> 00:09:06.230 I actually thought they shouldn't have won that match. 00:09:06.330 --> 00:09:08.169 They were not the better team, but they ended up winning. 00:09:09.289 --> 00:09:12.169 And fucking Diescu is a machine no matter where you put him. 00:09:12.289 --> 00:09:14.590 The guy is just not making any errors. 00:09:14.710 --> 00:09:21.590 I don't think he attacked on the right off the bounce one time, but talk about making 764 dinks in a row, and he did. 00:09:22.190 --> 00:09:23.409 And then, I mean, it was crazy. 00:09:23.610 --> 00:09:25.049 Like, I don't think he missed one fucking dink. 00:09:25.649 --> 00:09:33.990 And so you can really make the argument right now that compared to different partners, right side, left side, that he's the best

men's doubles player in the world. 00:09:34.330 --> 00:09:38.409 I wouldn't have guessed that, but it states that as of now. 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:43.750 And then, you know, after Dallas, obviously Ben's now won three events with three different partners this year. 00:09:46.509 --> 00:09:53.610 He dealt with the wind in both of them very, very well because, man, Dallas and fucking Coral Gables were the two windiest events I've probably ever played in. 00:09:54.909 --> 00:09:58.730 In Dallas, 100 miles away in Amarillo, apparently, was 100 mile an hour winds. 00:09:59.110 --> 00:10:00.409 Jesus, that's crazy. 00:10:01.809 --> 00:10:04.610 And they lifted the cap, so you have to play these now, right? 00:10:04.690 --> 00:10:06.669 Like, I mean, what's the situation on when they call it? 00:10:07.070 --> 00:10:16.509 You know, one of the PPA people asked me that, and it was like, you know, tennis doesn't have one, but the ball doesn't move quite like in tennis. 00:10:16.649 --> 00:10:18.950 You know, obviously, it's so light to whiff a ball, it moves a shit ton. 00:10:19.409 --> 00:10:22.570 But with that said, like, I think he's got to play. 00:10:23.070 --> 00:10:24.169 I think it is what it is. 00:10:24.230 --> 00:10:25.909 Unless you can have everything in door, he's got to fucking play. 00:10:26.269 --> 00:10:29.350 And we made a mistake in our round of 16 in Mixed. 00:10:29.669 --> 00:10:34.169 Elise and I were outdoors against Eric Onsen and Alex Truong. 00:10:34.309 --> 00:10:35.350 Did you complain about the win? 00:10:35.389 --> 00:10:36.110 No, I did not. 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:36.690 They did. 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:39.990 They were adamant, and we had actually won the toss and were on the better side. 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:42.929 I think they had even, like, scored a point and still were like, we don't do this anymore. 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:43.669 Yeah, they did. 00:10:44.029 --> 00:10:46.509 And then I said, all right, we'll go inside if we restart the match entirely. 00:10:46.629 --> 00:10:47.570 And they're like, all right, we'll do that. 00:10:47.690 --> 00:10:49.330 Oh, wow, they sacrificed the point? 00:10:49.429 --> 00:10:49.649 They did. 00:10:49.889 --> 00:10:51.070 How far away was the inside? 00:10:51.909 --> 00:10:52.649 10 seconds. 00:10:53.009 --> 00:10:54.289 Oh, it's at the same facility? 00:10:54.289 --> 00:10:54.950 Yeah, at the same facility. 00:10:55.190 --> 00:10:56.669 Why were they not using those full time, then? 00:10:57.350 --> 00:10:57.830 I don't know. 00:10:58.470 --> 00:10:59.090 It was an outdoor event. 00:10:59.710 --> 00:10:59.970 What? 00:11:00.149 --> 00:11:02.149 They couldn't probably run the whole tournament on it. 00:11:03.070 --> 00:11:03.450 Wow. 00:11:03.669 --> 00:11:05.909 But either way, you know, we went indoors, and that was an error. 00:11:06.070 --> 00:11:06.950 We should have stayed outside. 00:11:07.309 --> 00:11:16.490 The speed with which Eric Onsen was hitting the ball with that fucking YOLO4 was like, I mean, the guy's a 25% better player than he was. 00:11:17.370 --> 00:11:19.529 Sweet spot is so much larger, so much more. 00:11:19.710 --> 00:11:21.769 The response is consistent. 00:11:22.309 --> 00:11:23.610 He nutted every drop. 00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:25.169 He nutted every reset. 00:11:25.350 --> 00:11:27.610 He blasted forehands at mock speed. 00:11:28.049 --> 00:11:29.570 So they tuned it back. 00:11:29.610 --> 00:11:31.990 They tuned back those paddles like you said they were going to. 00:11:33.309 --> 00:11:34.529 I don't think they started doing that yet. 00:11:34.610 --> 00:11:35.149 I thought that was September. 00:11:35.870 --> 00:11:38.210 You think they're going to tune back the 4S in September? 00:11:38.210 --> 00:11:40.190 I have no faith in that happening now. 00:11:40.450 --> 00:11:40.850 None. 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:42.009 So blast paddles. 00:11:42.350 --> 00:11:44.190 I think we are where we are. 00:11:45.070 --> 00:11:46.289 I think so too. 00:11:46.429 --> 00:11:49.909 I think as unfortunate as that is, that's what it is. 00:11:50.669 --> 00:11:53.350 I think players will adjust, and everyone will get better. 00:11:53.750 --> 00:11:55.730 Everyone will get better at handling the speed. 00:11:55.830 --> 00:11:56.629 No, no. 00:11:56.710 --> 00:11:57.149 You don't think so? 00:11:57.230 --> 00:11:57.450 That's not relevant. 00:11:57.649 --> 00:11:59.169 No, it's not even a fair point. 00:11:59.509 --> 00:12:00.649 It doesn't matter about that. 00:12:00.669 --> 00:12:06.269 What matters is that once you start a hand battle, there's no way to keep up with what's transpiring. 00:12:06.350 --> 00:12:06.950 It's impossible. 00:12:07.129 --> 00:12:11.850 But I think that everyone will get faster and better overall, and there will start being hand battles again that are longer. 00:12:12.330 --> 00:12:12.730 Absolutely not. 00:12:12.730 --> 00:12:13.269 Nope. 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:13.870 Not even close. 00:12:14.549 --> 00:12:15.210 It'll never happen. 00:12:15.710 --> 00:12:18.490 Mark this moment down in podcast history, please. 00:12:18.690 --> 00:12:20.169 I'm telling you, it's humanly impossible. 00:12:20.250 --> 00:12:21.149 It's impossible. 00:12:21.450 --> 00:12:22.309 It's so fast. 00:12:22.809 --> 00:12:34.169 And now the problem is also is driving is so much, statistically, is like so much better in theory than dropping, that why statistically would you go back to, you know, when it used to be 80-20 in favor of the drop? 00:12:34.289 --> 00:12:36.250 Oh, no, I'm saying it's still going to be there. 00:12:36.389 --> 00:12:38.909 I just think that people are going to get sharper with their volleys. 00:12:39.049 --> 00:12:40.710 They're going to get faster with their hands. 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:41.590 It's just a little hand. 00:12:41.629 --> 00:12:42.570 I was going to get faster. 00:12:43.549 --> 00:12:45.750 Everyone's just going to get sharpened up. 00:12:46.129 --> 00:12:46.809 They're going

to catch up. 00:12:46.970 --> 00:12:50.250 My sense is all of a sudden like the human form is going to alter drastically. 00:12:50.669 --> 00:12:53.210 I think it's like I can only keep up with something at certain speed. 00:12:53.230 --> 00:12:53.850 It makes no sense. 00:12:54.029 --> 00:12:55.269 Like, here's a good example. 00:12:55.789 --> 00:12:56.070 No one. 00:12:56.190 --> 00:12:57.149 It's probably not a good example. 00:12:57.230 --> 00:12:58.629 It's probably a bad example, but I'm giving you an example. 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:01.029 Nolan Ryan threw the ball at 100 miles an hour, right? 00:13:01.210 --> 00:13:01.669 In pitching. 00:13:01.929 --> 00:13:02.049 Yep. 00:13:02.309 --> 00:13:05.809 And like, he was the best pitcher of all time because he threw it so damn fast. 00:13:05.809 --> 00:13:06.049 Right? 00:13:07.250 --> 00:13:10.389 Now people, a lot of people throw like 96 to 98. 00:13:10.389 --> 00:13:12.389 And people tee off on that all the time. 00:13:12.610 --> 00:13:15.549 I feel bad already because he started with, this is probably a bad example. 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:18.450 It's such a bad fucking example. 00:13:19.429 --> 00:13:28.570 Because what you have to realize is that the guys are throwing maybe at an incrementally higher speed than Nolan Ryan was, let's say 1%, 2%, 5%. 00:13:28.570 --> 00:13:31.389 And the variation in paddle velocity now is 30%. 00:13:33.070 --> 00:13:34.289 Slight differential there. 00:13:34.629 --> 00:13:35.830 I told you, big math guy. 00:13:35.950 --> 00:13:38.450 What about serving in tennis? 00:13:38.690 --> 00:13:39.789 Hasn't that gotten faster? 00:13:39.789 --> 00:13:40.750 Not substantially. 00:13:41.009 --> 00:13:42.629 Yeah, it's gotten faster, but it's not like overwhelming. 00:13:43.090 --> 00:13:45.830 The thing that's changed a lot is the RPMs and the speed of the court. 00:13:46.129 --> 00:13:50.309 But serves maybe were 120 in the 90s. 00:13:50.309 --> 00:13:51.210 And now they get up to 140. 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:54.149 Yeah, but guys generally serve still around 120, 130 at the peak. 00:13:55.389 --> 00:13:56.730 And they slowed the courts down a lot. 00:13:56.830 --> 00:13:58.769 Even at 120 then, guys couldn't get the balls back. 00:13:58.809 --> 00:14:01.230 So they really slowed the courts down so people could make more fucking balls. 00:14:02.730 --> 00:14:03.269 All right. 00:14:03.669 --> 00:14:09.649 Listen, if somebody is sitting on a counter and they catch it leaning in, I don't care if you are fucking Spiderman or Batman. 00:14:09.649 --> 00:14:11.250 It's over. 00:14:11.830 --> 00:14:16.789 Yes, will the guys with faster hands still create a longer rally than is happening right this second? 00:14:16.970 --> 00:14:17.149 Yes. 00:14:17.230 --> 00:14:18.110 Will it ever be like it was? 00:14:18.210 --> 00:14:18.330 No. 00:14:19.330 --> 00:14:19.669 All right. 00:14:20.309 --> 00:14:20.649 Sadly. 00:14:22.149 --> 00:14:22.509 Interesting. 00:14:24.009 --> 00:14:29.690 So you're still on the train of let's slow the paddle, let's decrease the speed of the paddles. 00:14:29.850 --> 00:14:30.210 Yes. 00:14:30.269 --> 00:14:31.009 It's not happening. 00:14:31.509 --> 00:14:31.889 No, it's not happening. 00:14:32.450 --> 00:14:34.909 And it's funny because someone said to me, you got to talk more about this. 00:14:34.970 --> 00:14:36.570 I was like, first of all, it's all I fucking talked about. 00:14:36.570 --> 00:14:40.350 And second of all, it's one thing to say like this should happen. 00:14:40.470 --> 00:14:41.909 And then to say what will happen. 00:14:42.169 --> 00:14:45.409 I'm not, I can say it should 50 million fucking times. 00:14:45.570 --> 00:14:45.690 Right. 00:14:46.029 --> 00:14:48.429 No, it's like ultimately you accept the fate. 00:14:48.529 --> 00:14:49.289 It's a different fucking game. 00:14:49.370 --> 00:14:50.309 It's going to remain a different game. 00:14:50.389 --> 00:14:50.950 It is what it is. 00:14:51.149 --> 00:14:53.230 Generally, anything we've said should happen in the game. 00:14:53.309 --> 00:14:53.769 Didn't happen. 00:14:55.629 --> 00:14:55.950 Yeah. 00:14:56.009 --> 00:14:57.970 I mean, we've made a lot of recommendations. 00:14:59.610 --> 00:15:00.309 Who are we? 00:15:00.389 --> 00:15:01.490 We're a bunch of fucking idiots in here. 00:15:01.629 --> 00:15:02.190 Look where we are. 00:15:02.610 --> 00:15:03.769 Someone actually came to me the other day. 00:15:03.809 --> 00:15:05.169 Like, hey, I went through with St. Keith. 00:15:05.289 --> 00:15:07.990 I kept hearing about, you know, those Crescent Lake ports to talk about. 00:15:08.230 --> 00:15:09.389 There's just shit. 00:15:09.549 --> 00:15:11.730 And I was like, hey, watch your fucking mouth. 00:15:12.250 --> 00:15:12.789 All right. 00:15:12.830 --> 00:15:14.110 Like you guys really play that. 00:15:14.289 --> 00:15:15.210 Yeah, we do. 00:15:15.289 --> 00:15:15.629 All right. 00:15:15.669 --> 00:15:15.870 Right. 00:15:16.009 --> 00:15:19.769 So point being is we are slum of the earth, scum of the earth. 00:15:19.789 --> 00:15:20.750 And this is where we are. 00:15:21.809 --> 00:15:22.169 Yep. 00:15:22.330 --> 00:15:23.190 Our opinions don't matter. 00:15:23.389 --> 00:15:23.750 Exactly. 00:15:23.870 --> 00:15:24.029 Yep. 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:33.529 Well, looking at some of the headlines back at the Texas open, the top two women's double teams didn't make the finals. 00:15:33.529 --> 00:15:33.629 Yes. 00:15:33.889 --> 00:15:36.870 So Annalie and Catherine beaten by. 00:15:38.169 --> 00:15:38.590 Yes. 00:15:39.570 --> 00:15:40.629 How do we say her last name again? 00:15:40.889 --> 00:15:42.769 I think I got a funny story on that. 00:15:42.870 --> 00:15:43.649 Why did her name change? 00:15:44.970 --> 00:15:45.750 Oh, really? 00:15:46.330 --> 00:15:47.429 I knew it. 00:15:47.649 --> 00:15:48.490 Oh, my God. 00:15:48.850 --> 00:15:50.710 Graham absolutely roasted me. 00:15:51.250 --> 00:15:52.649 I, I don't

know for sure. 00:15:52.730 --> 00:15:54.529 I think that's a common sense. 00:15:54.889 --> 00:15:56.470 No, it's not common sense. 00:15:56.529 --> 00:15:57.350 It's actually not. 00:15:57.450 --> 00:16:00.350 I say to Luke, I say, what did the name change for? 00:16:00.409 --> 00:16:01.789 And he goes, she got divorced. 00:16:01.789 --> 00:16:04.149 And I'm like, why would you automatically jump to divorce? 00:16:04.289 --> 00:16:05.289 Couldn't she have gotten married? 00:16:06.169 --> 00:16:06.909 He wasn't married. 00:16:07.909 --> 00:16:08.789 Oh, I didn't know that. 00:16:09.909 --> 00:16:11.970 Oh, so she got the wrong with you guys. 00:16:12.029 --> 00:16:12.830 I didn't know that. 00:16:13.090 --> 00:16:14.490 Well, but you're right. 00:16:14.590 --> 00:16:17.570 So I guess I somehow knew I was married, but I couldn't remember why. 00:16:18.370 --> 00:16:20.769 But then I said that when Graham was like, why would you just assume she was married? 00:16:20.870 --> 00:16:21.289 It's like, I don't know. 00:16:21.309 --> 00:16:22.830 I just thought she was getting divorced. 00:16:22.889 --> 00:16:23.490 I have no idea. 00:16:23.789 --> 00:16:24.970 Most people want to see a name change. 00:16:25.070 --> 00:16:30.210 You jump to marriage, not divorce, but Luke right away was like, okay, well, let's, let's be really logical for a second. 00:16:30.509 --> 00:16:31.190 I didn't know she was married. 00:16:32.210 --> 00:16:33.129 Looks like her. 00:16:33.529 --> 00:16:35.110 That's also maybe part of why I thought. 00:16:36.190 --> 00:16:38.149 Like, that's her fucking maiden name. 00:16:38.490 --> 00:16:44.090 And yes, it's very clear that, yeah, maybe she could have gotten married if it went from like, right to Williams. 00:16:44.190 --> 00:16:44.789 I've been like, all right. 00:16:45.429 --> 00:16:47.289 Yeah, it went from right to Tullio Neta. 00:16:47.870 --> 00:16:48.230 Damn. 00:16:48.309 --> 00:16:48.549 All right. 00:16:48.590 --> 00:16:50.250 Well, that was back on. 00:16:50.350 --> 00:16:52.070 I believe that I could be, I could be wrong. 00:16:52.169 --> 00:17:01.950 I think she got divorced, but yes, she and Callie Smith beat the, you know, the number one undefeated champions of the world in 75 mile an hour gusts and nothing against them. 00:17:01.990 --> 00:17:04.450 You know, they had to fucking deal with it, but it was crazy shit. 00:17:05.328 --> 00:17:05.730 Yeah. 00:17:05.789 --> 00:17:06.588 And they handled it really well. 00:17:06.930 --> 00:17:07.210 Yeah. 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:11.170 And then the girl, he's lost to the most improved player in women's pickleball by a fucking country mile. 00:17:11.549 --> 00:17:12.970 Got to practice with her for a little bit. 00:17:13.650 --> 00:17:17.690 Tyra Black is not the fastest person or fastest girl in pickleball. 00:17:17.710 --> 00:17:20.130 She's the fastest person in fucking pickleball. 00:17:20.368 --> 00:17:22.490 The fucking defense is insane. 00:17:23.049 --> 00:17:26.309 We were playing mixed against her and Donald is like her feet are fast. 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:27.009 She's fast. 00:17:27.088 --> 00:17:32.730 Her hands are fast, but her anticipation is so fast and her first step burst from like here to that middle line. 00:17:33.630 --> 00:17:36.069 I feel like I wouldn't have even moved yet. 00:17:36.690 --> 00:17:37.710 She's so quick. 00:17:37.970 --> 00:17:42.470 So do you think that is primary because she's so good at anticipating where the ball is going to come? 00:17:42.589 --> 00:17:44.990 I think she has all, all, all aspects covered. 00:17:45.069 --> 00:17:50.950 She is an incredible defender and I think that comes from tennis is like real reading where the ball is and the probability of where the ball is going to go. 00:17:51.369 --> 00:17:54.009 And then she just has an innate sense. 00:17:54.009 --> 00:17:56.589 Okay, the ball's gonna go here and then she's fast to it really quick. 00:17:56.730 --> 00:17:58.210 And then she's got very good hand eyes. 00:17:58.329 --> 00:18:01.190 She will put the center of the paddle on the ball in adverse positions. 00:18:01.329 --> 00:18:04.509 The things she doesn't do well require her to be good at defense. 00:18:04.589 --> 00:18:05.470 Like she's not a great drop. 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:10.750 She's not like super crafty around the line, but her hands are super fast. 00:18:10.809 --> 00:18:15.549 And again, her fucking foot speed is like, holy shit, next level. 00:18:15.690 --> 00:18:16.970 So yeah, she's the most improved player. 00:18:17.109 --> 00:18:35.589 She and Paris Todd beat the girlies and then they went on to win three straight games in the final against and, and, but can you explain to me why Tyra Banks is always is always falling over because she's so overextended. 00:18:35.990 --> 00:18:45.289 And I think she's sliding the balls and I think part of it, I don't say it's like an act, but I think part of it is like, you know, a little extra flair at the end. 00:18:45.529 --> 00:18:46.509 Let's just say that glare. 00:18:47.289 --> 00:18:48.470 Did she do that in tennis? 00:18:48.670 --> 00:18:49.450 I couldn't tell you. 00:18:49.710 --> 00:18:50.789 Oh, you didn't watch her play tennis. 00:18:50.970 --> 00:18:51.829 I don't know much about her. 00:18:51.829 --> 00:18:55.569 It just seems like I'm always seeing her roll on, like roll an ankle, but she's okay. 00:18:55.750 --> 00:18:59.269 She's sliding and fully extended and like look at her body positions. 00:18:59.410 --> 00:19:03.250 If you slow down, like when she's making contact at times, it's like, holy shit, that's an athlete. 00:19:03.950 --> 00:19:04.589 Are you slowing on mine? 00:19:04.630 --> 00:19:06.410 I'm like, oh, all stiff. 00:19:06.490 --> 00:19:08.349 She's fucking looks like joke of it. 00:19:09.450 --> 00:19:10.849 I heard that she doesn't drill. 00:19:11.809 --> 00:19:12.630 She's like a latency. 00:19:13.269 --> 00:19:18.549 She just does like really extended

warmups and just like practices shots that way, but she doesn't like generally drill. 00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:19.690 She just likes to play games. 00:19:20.529 --> 00:19:21.509 I'm with that. 00:19:21.710 --> 00:19:24.769 As long as you get the reps and you're having fun, I think that's critical. 00:19:25.089 --> 00:19:25.609 I feel like that. 00:19:25.650 --> 00:19:27.930 It probably makes sense for having great defense though, right? 00:19:28.049 --> 00:19:30.789 When you're playing games, tends to force you to get good defense maybe. 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:33.309 Maybe, but I think her defense comes from tennis. 00:19:33.650 --> 00:19:36.230 Tennis and just a sheer innate ability and athleticism. 00:19:36.529 --> 00:19:38.309 I even say this to Donald that I've talked about. 00:19:38.809 --> 00:19:49.309 You can see when guys are like really good at pickleball, they weren't really good at tennis because there are certain things like when the ball goes up, particularly from an overhead, guys who play tennis at a really high level will innately go to a certain spot. 00:19:49.609 --> 00:19:51.549 Guys who play pickleball at a high level do not. 00:19:51.930 --> 00:19:53.690 They're like wrong almost all the time. 00:19:53.769 --> 00:19:57.089 It's like the probability is so low that the ball is going to X position. 00:19:57.369 --> 00:19:57.890 Got it. 00:19:57.970 --> 00:20:01.750 And so, you know, I won't name names, but I'm serious. 00:20:01.809 --> 00:20:02.410 You can see it. 00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:03.710 It's like they didn't move. 00:20:04.049 --> 00:20:08.490 And if you've played at a high enough level of tennis, like she does, she's literally moving towards the right spot every time. 00:20:09.789 --> 00:20:13.490 I'm trying to like remember from in my head where this person normally hits it. 00:20:13.509 --> 00:20:15.769 And I go for those spots like they tend to hit this shot. 00:20:16.009 --> 00:20:17.089 So I go cover that spot. 00:20:17.089 --> 00:20:18.690 Let's give your probability example. 00:20:19.410 --> 00:20:21.430 If the guy has an overhead here on the right. 00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:22.430 Okay. 00:20:22.730 --> 00:20:22.970 Yep. 00:20:23.109 --> 00:20:23.849 I forehand. 00:20:24.009 --> 00:20:24.150 Yep. 00:20:24.309 --> 00:20:25.369 I'm on the left and you're on the right. 00:20:25.450 --> 00:20:25.789 Where do we go? 00:20:26.210 --> 00:20:27.049 I'm covering middle. 00:20:27.269 --> 00:20:28.529 The dumbest shit I've ever heard. 00:20:32.670 --> 00:20:33.029 Okay. 00:20:34.069 --> 00:20:35.509 And you're covering the line. 00:20:35.630 --> 00:20:36.390 I'm covering middle. 00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:37.509 You're covering wide. 00:20:37.710 --> 00:20:38.650 We leave the lines. 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:41.650 The highest part of the net, the shortest bit of court is the hardest shot to hit. 00:20:41.809 --> 00:20:42.630 This one right here. 00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:43.049 You leave. 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:43.529 Yes, because. 00:20:44.269 --> 00:20:44.990 Oh, got you. 00:20:45.049 --> 00:20:45.789 You move that way. 00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:47.829 You're right. 00:20:48.109 --> 00:20:48.789 You're right on that. 00:20:48.789 --> 00:20:49.170 You're right. 00:20:49.289 --> 00:20:51.349 But my point is, he would probably have to think about it. 00:20:51.390 --> 00:20:53.190 But I would have hit my overhead straight down the line. 00:20:53.450 --> 00:20:54.589 You would have missed it wide too. 00:20:55.170 --> 00:20:57.750 You would have missed it wide because you only get this much space to hit it too. 00:20:58.089 --> 00:20:58.630 That's the point. 00:20:58.809 --> 00:21:02.890 Were you there when he was yelling at me about hitting it down, like covering the line too far over? 00:21:02.930 --> 00:21:03.309 Oh, I remember this one. 00:21:03.309 --> 00:21:06.630 And then I was like, but Josh, I was like, he always hits it there. 00:21:06.730 --> 00:21:07.430 I got to cover this spot. 00:21:07.430 --> 00:21:07.869 He never hits it there. 00:21:07.910 --> 00:21:08.390 He's like, no. 00:21:09.089 --> 00:21:10.329 I know that Josh listened to me. 00:21:10.369 --> 00:21:13.029 The next shot he hit, he burned Travis down the line not covering the line. 00:21:13.269 --> 00:21:13.750 That's amazing. 00:21:13.750 --> 00:21:14.910 That's why I cover it, dude. 00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:16.609 They should just have this conversation, Donald and I. 00:21:18.750 --> 00:21:19.250 That's amazing. 00:21:19.269 --> 00:21:19.750 It was great. 00:21:19.849 --> 00:21:23.730 If you're wise, you almost straddle the middle line when the person is hitting their fourth. 00:21:24.829 --> 00:21:25.289 That's awesome. 00:21:25.329 --> 00:21:25.890 Their third, excuse me. 00:21:26.589 --> 00:21:28.309 Have we tackled this question before? 00:21:28.410 --> 00:21:34.890 But like, if you took all of the top PPA pros right now and you made a tennis tournament, who would end up on top? 00:21:36.190 --> 00:21:37.470 That you maybe wouldn't expect. 00:21:37.470 --> 00:21:39.230 What kind of tennis singles or dummies? 00:21:39.549 --> 00:21:39.730 Donald. 00:21:40.029 --> 00:21:41.329 I think he still plays the most. 00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:42.089 I think that's a good question. 00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:42.849 I'll just go Jack. 00:21:43.710 --> 00:21:51.109 I think there's probably 30 men who are probably 1 through 30 and then it goes down. 00:21:51.250 --> 00:21:52.950 Some of those younger guys are probably really good too. 00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:54.009 Yeah, they're still probably really good. 00:21:54.130 --> 00:21:56.289 Guys who are just coming out of college, that's a really high level. 00:21:56.869 --> 00:21:58.750 I'm not even the top 35. 00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:00.289 I'd get my fucking ass kicked. 00:22:00.289 --> 00:22:00.490 Really? 00:22:00.569 --> 00:22:00.869 You think so? 00:22:00.910 --> 00:22:02.150 No, because I can't serve like that anymore. 00:22:02.269 --> 00:22:03.009 Service is a huge

factor. 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:03.569 Oh, I see. 00:22:04.269 --> 00:22:04.690 Got it. 00:22:05.609 --> 00:22:07.650 If you were just rallying in the middle, you're like, oh, he hits the ball nice. 00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:08.349 Girls are pretty. 00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:10.910 But you actually play and move like that and I can't serve like that anymore. 00:22:12.410 --> 00:22:18.269 Yeah, I bet a lot of those younger guys that just came out of like, oh, right in the balls. 00:22:20.250 --> 00:22:24.789 Those guys that just got out of D1 college playing tennis are probably solid. 00:22:24.890 --> 00:22:26.190 I'd say DUI would probably win. 00:22:26.390 --> 00:22:27.789 He still plays quite a bit. 00:22:27.910 --> 00:22:29.250 I mean, at least was. 00:22:29.349 --> 00:22:34.650 And then he played like a qualifier for the Atlanta Open last year and beat a couple of guys with like 400 or 500 in the world. 00:22:34.789 --> 00:22:36.269 That's not easy to do. 00:22:39.420 --> 00:22:41.759 We also saw a new replay. 00:22:42.460 --> 00:22:45.259 Oh, the red dot thing. 00:22:45.539 --> 00:22:45.640 Yes. 00:22:45.779 --> 00:22:46.380 What am I trying to say? 00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:47.559 Is that new or did they brought it back? 00:22:47.940 --> 00:22:48.259 Replay. 00:22:48.740 --> 00:22:49.059 Right. 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:49.480 System. 00:22:49.660 --> 00:22:49.779 Yeah. 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:50.660 Replay system. 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:53.119 Spot on, I think is what it's called. 00:22:53.660 --> 00:22:55.039 Is that not the same one they used before? 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:57.339 That was the black dot. 00:22:57.980 --> 00:22:58.220 Right. 00:22:58.279 --> 00:22:58.980 This is a red dot. 00:22:59.180 --> 00:23:00.799 This is their own homegrown version. 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:01.440 Oh, really? 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:02.160 Oh, that's right. 00:23:02.220 --> 00:23:05.039 They didn't want to pay the fee for that software. 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:05.940 So they just made their own. 00:23:06.140 --> 00:23:06.339 Yeah. 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.799 I think I made this comment too about something, right? 00:23:08.819 --> 00:23:10.759 You're like, you said, oh, it's really expensive to use it. 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:11.740 And I'm like, let us make their own. 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:12.279 It'll be cheap. 00:23:12.339 --> 00:23:13.940 And six months from now, everyone will be using it. 00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:14.299 Yeah. 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.839 And now that's what's happening. 00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:16.480 Is that what this was? 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:16.759 Yeah. 00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:17.859 I thought it was great. 00:23:17.900 --> 00:23:19.619 We've had this conversation long ago. 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.660 And I love how no matter what said, you're like, I probably said this was right too. 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:23.519 And you were probably wrong. 00:23:24.259 --> 00:23:26.079 No matter what is said, that's how you interpret everything. 00:23:26.099 --> 00:23:27.079 Actually, we talked about it. 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:27.619 You agreed with me. 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:29.380 You were like, this is really expensive right now. 00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:33.559 I'm like, yeah, but in six months, they're just going to make duplicates of this and we'll be able to get it for 50 bucks. 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:35.559 I think they had already made the indication that they were going to copy it. 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:36.579 Like they scammed whoever. 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:37.460 Like, oh, really? 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:38.140 How do you guys do this? 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:38.859 How do you guys do this? 00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:39.619 Yeah. 00:23:39.779 --> 00:23:43.339 They hired them for one event, saw how they did it, and then went to the drawing board and made their own. 00:23:43.339 --> 00:23:43.819 This is really looking good. 00:23:44.420 --> 00:23:45.019 Pretty much. 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:45.839 Fucking works. 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:46.519 Good shit. 00:23:46.660 --> 00:23:47.420 It was really good. 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:48.460 That stuff's accurate, right? 00:23:48.619 --> 00:23:48.819 Uh-huh. 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:49.980 I guess it is. 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.000 I mean, I don't know if they tested, but it looks like it's good. 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:59.960 But can I tell you what I get mad at is when I see the red dot is like almost touching the line, but that one's out. 00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:00.740 I don't know why. 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:01.680 That drives me nuts. 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:02.680 It's way too close. 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:03.700 Oh, okay. 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:04.339 How do we know? 00:24:04.539 --> 00:24:08.119 That red dot, if it's anywhere near the line, that one should be it. 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:11.180 How is this pinpoint accuracy exactly happening? 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.559 I think I gave a little, I think I gave a little way more. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.039 Margin of error. 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:14.579 You want leeway? 00:24:14.660 --> 00:24:16.079 So you want balls that are out to be called in? 00:24:16.660 --> 00:24:17.339 Like a hair. 00:24:17.579 --> 00:24:18.480 Like a millimeter. 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:22.220 I literally almost spit on my face. 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:28.039 I'm going to bend the rules to a more lenient direction. 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:31.480 Did you just cut to Graham and just be like, what do you think, Graham? 00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:32.859 He's like, we'll call that one in. 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:34.099 It was a hair out. 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:34.920 Yeah. 00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:36.460 How many has? 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.599 I mean, getting it right. 00:24:38.740 --> 00:24:41.059 Forty nine percent of the ball is hanging over the line. 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.380 The red dot is trying to touch the white line. 00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:44.299 Right. 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:45.460 But it didn't touch. 00:24:45.720

--> 00:24:46.160 I know. 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:47.180 These are black and white things. 00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:48.539 You're talking, you're just like a big gray area. 00:24:49.740 --> 00:24:51.299 But man, that's it's accurate. 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:51.799 I love it. 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:52.039 Yeah. 00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:52.700 You got to love that. 00:24:52.779 --> 00:24:52.880 Yeah. 00:24:52.900 --> 00:24:54.019 That's a big step up. 00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:59.920 And it definitely improves the cheating and challenging, I think, didn't it made it better or more cheating? 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:00.420 Yeah. 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:02.279 People were like, get away with it. 00:25:02.299 --> 00:25:03.960 No one was trying anything weird. 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:04.519 Right. 00:25:04.700 --> 00:25:06.079 Unless they're trying to get a free time out. 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:12.980 But it's in tennis, the the ball is called out by the sound system immediately. 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:13.359 Right. 00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:15.279 Isn't that how it happens for Hawkeye? 00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:15.779 Yes. 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:16.680 It's not others. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.859 I mean, they don't have rest anymore at most events. 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:19.200 Right. 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:23.339 Oh, so like you don't even have to think about whether to play the ball. 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.180 It just decides for you as soon as it bounces. 00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:27.119 That's only true for serves, though, right? 00:25:27.220 --> 00:25:27.980 No, for every ball. 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:29.680 Every ball, even on the baseline? 00:25:30.180 --> 00:25:33.000 Every ball, sideline, baseline, a noise goes off. 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:33.640 Every ball. 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:33.880 Yes. 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:34.819 Wow. 00:25:34.819 --> 00:25:35.420 I didn't know that. 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.920 I mean, there are some events like the French Open, for example, which was like a big point of issue. 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.160 Roddick made a big point of issue, which he's right. 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:49.160 If you have the technology to make sure the call is right 100 percent, why have human error or interpretation like just get it fucking right? 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:49.839 Yeah. 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:57.259 And so, yeah, for most events now, they use Hawkeye system that is automated and it just calls, calls, calls, calls. 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:04.259 Um, but what does the Tennis Association own Hawkeye? 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.400 They probably bought it, but I don't know if they own it. 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:08.480 That's what I mean. 00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:09.059 They both. 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:15.079 why didn't they why weren't they smart enough to just knock it off instead of paying for it every year? 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:16.579 Yeah, like PPA. 00:26:16.579 --> 00:26:20.240 Get that guy and find him and find that guy. 00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:21.539 Guys, a lot of money. 00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:25.400 They should get they should talk to us. 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.480 We've got the technology, guys, we can help you out. 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.240 Now, we would license that out for millions at this point. 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:33.619 We're fucking crafty businessmen. 00:26:33.700 --> 00:26:33.980 Let me tell you. 00:26:34.099 --> 00:26:34.400 That's funny. 00:26:35.259 --> 00:26:39.900 Do you think that you would prefer to have that system where you don't have to make the call, just calls it right away? 00:26:39.980 --> 00:26:40.339 Not me. 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:40.759 Absolutely. 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.500 You wouldn't like that? 00:26:41.779 --> 00:26:41.880 No. 00:26:41.900 --> 00:26:42.700 What do you what do you say? 00:26:42.819 --> 00:26:43.720 I love the banter. 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.579 I love the thrill of seeing it on the TV. 00:26:46.819 --> 00:26:49.259 For a guy who's so non-controversial, timid. 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.460 He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. 00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:54.500 I like the call. 00:26:54.539 --> 00:26:55.859 And then I like to see it on the screen. 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.599 Everyone's like, ooh, just me. 00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:58.720 I love that. 00:26:58.819 --> 00:26:59.539 I love that moment. 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:00.599 Can't you do that with the Hawkeye? 00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:01.160 Like calls out. 00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:03.700 No, the Hawkeye's beeping, doesn't it? 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:06.980 Yeah, but no, it just goes, it literally makes a sound like, oh, yeah. 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.200 And then, but you can ask, can I see the call? 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:10.279 And they'll show it up on the thing. 00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:13.279 It's like, ooh, because they don't trust the noise. 00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:15.299 No, they just want to see how far they missed it by. 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.380 Yeah, it's just like in case you missed it. 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:19.259 Here it is. 00:27:19.259 --> 00:27:20.420 OK, then I like that system. 00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:24.619 Yeah, I like if it's calling it for you right away, but you can say, let me see it on the big screen. 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:25.720 OK, got it. 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:26.079 I like that system. 00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:29.700 Like some revolutionary new shit that I'm playing for fucking years. 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.420 I like that fucking tennis. 00:27:31.500 --> 00:27:35.079 OK, buddy, we apparently got some pretty important tennis guests coming on. 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:36.680 I need you to fucking know some more shit. 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:37.880 We can have this guy. 00:27:37.980 --> 00:27:39.200 So you're saying who's Debbie Griff? 00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:40.480 I'm going to do that. 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:41.720 I'm going to ask them all about Hawkeye. 00:27:41.779 --> 00:27:42.579 Oh, God, that's great. 00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:43.859

She'll have every answer for you. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.579 That's amazing. 00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:50.059 But you, you had a better run with at least in Texas, right? 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:51.420 Yeah, we got a little better. 00:27:51.420 --> 00:27:53.460 It was the weirdest, craziest match ever. 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:59.920 First round, we played Marshall Brown and Alex Walker and legit, like I hit a lob that I hit almost as hard as I can. 00:28:00.099 --> 00:28:02.940 And it went bounce on their side and came back to ours. 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.539 Just how windy it was. 00:28:04.660 --> 00:28:05.180 Love that. 00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:06.299 You couldn't play at all. 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.000 And we squeaked out of it somehow ugly as shit. 00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:15.819 And then it was definitely windy for the second round, but not nearly as like we almost found a little area of normalcy. 00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:17.079 Yeah, at least played great. 00:28:17.380 --> 00:28:22.299 She was like, I kept on her shack as a joke because there was a couple points where she was like driving and you can crash and putting the ball away. 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.500 I was like, listen, that's like shack taking threes. 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:25.099 Don't do that. 00:28:25.420 --> 00:28:26.980 Like you're now you're getting this false sense of confidence. 00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:27.480 You can do that. 00:28:27.539 --> 00:28:28.119 You can't do that. 00:28:28.660 --> 00:28:30.400 We're joking about it the whole time. 00:28:30.819 --> 00:28:32.859 And so I was like, diesel diesel. 00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:33.740 Nice. 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.180 She was having fun, but she played great against Matt and Lucy. 00:28:36.980 --> 00:28:40.079 I think we were like, maybe down or seven all game one. 00:28:40.140 --> 00:28:43.400 And then from there, seven and three or something was Matt talking. 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:44.680 Was Matt talking shit? 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:46.099 No, no, no, not at all. 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:46.619 Matt. 00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:52.019 Matt and I have, it's turned into like this very respectful banter relationship back and forth. 00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:57.640 Maybe like one little word here and there, but nothing like is normal for either of us. 00:28:57.859 --> 00:28:59.160 So what's going on with them? 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.799 Why, why do they, I feel like I don't see them in the round of sixteens or quarters as often now. 00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:08.160 I mean, there's probably a few reasons. 00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:09.359 I don't think it's just one. 00:29:09.940 --> 00:29:14.200 I think it's difficult to date someone that you play with, you know, So it's like that probably doesn't help. 00:29:14.539 --> 00:29:29.240 Yeah And then, you know it the older you get as I as am I it's hard to be as agile and take over the court at the same clip I think as the paddles have gotten faster and faster and faster and faster and faster and fucking faster. 00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:53.119 Yeah kitchen faster faster then You know the really good things that Matt's good at like speeding up off the bounce or dinking They're not as prevalent because you can just fucking blast the shit out of the ball at the girl and it becomes like this You know, let's call it agile chaos So I think it's it's difficult If you had a girlfriend or a wife that also played pro pickleball Would you play with them or would you split up and have different partners? 00:29:53.859 --> 00:29:56.880 I mean depends how good she is She's the number one in the world. 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:57.779 I can play with her every time. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:58.500 Oh, really? 00:29:58.640 --> 00:29:58.759 Yeah