Full Transcript for #63 | Alex Twal

artists? Who's our listeners to go and listen to? 00:04:54 Speaker 2: There's a Farrez cram something like that. Yeah, you've got a couple of them, but I'm not good. 00:05:05 Speaker 1: At But we're gonna blame youth for the whole, the. 00:05:08 Speaker 2: Whole crazy crazy backlash from that then Yeah, but yeah, obviously coming from a Lebanese but I think it's all sort of fun and games and well. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: What I'm just going to replace the bird? The bird in basically Sydney culture, I reckon Now when someone cats you off, I'm going. 00:05:23 Speaker 1: To Maie John's just what's different nunciations? 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Court? How do you? Yeah? 00:05:31 Speaker 1: Because roll the tongue man, I got to live Italian. Yeah, I'm Italian because like in a rugby league environment where there's so many different cultures like tongue and smoon Lebanese, you just you almost start to feel like the other boys culture. Like I played with a lot of I played with a lot of Kiwis and Sarmon's, and they just teach you the swear words and everything, and you just you know what I mean, like from the outside looking at and people go, oh, like that's but even though you know, like those boys aren't Lebanese, like they actually feel Lebanese because you're around that culture all the time. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: One hundred some days I come home and mister start talking. I won't ever realize I'm putting on a bit of a tongue. What are you talking with that? Remember the boys all the day? 00:06:15 Speaker 1: I do it all the time. Whenever I see like whenever me and Samuela to see each other. It's like I turn tongue. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: And you look Tom from the from the waist down. Man, It's funny like how like Tom Shank. I mean the Sydney clubs have always been like that, Like I Tally. I remember playing at Belmore Oval and mates, all right, you want you've bought the drink. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: But. 00:06:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, like come on and like particularly the dogs, you know that strong Lebanese and Lebanese Arab culture of Belmore, whereas the Newcastle maybe we had the indigenous boys and all the rest of us were just honkys. You know. 00:07:01 Speaker 1: Well you had Owen Craigie who used to live with it, right. 00:07:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah he lived with that. He'd lived with Trisha and I. He's a young Indigenous player, freak. Never seen anything like it, the talent. He won a gold medal in the school Boy Olympics the week before he came to us as a young guy. I played first grade, played first grade sixteen. 00:07:19 Speaker 1: Yeah for the night was it did? David with the Knight, he played. 00:07:21 Speaker 3: For the Tigers as well as he had to step with the West Tigers went South Sydney for just just lost his way out. 00:07:28 Speaker 1: He's going good. Now he's going good but lost his way back on his career that game over that win over the Doggie, sorry, tily outstanding, What like what does that mean for the for the club because it's been it's been an up and down near for you guys. But to get a good win over a top four side. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was obviously massive. Anytime we come across them Western Sydney teams, mate, it's it's always a big occasion. And obviously this this game was the only time we has Doggies all year, and I guess there's a bit of hype going into it and stuff like that, and you know, boys turned up and putting the cracker before. Obviously, yeah, good to get the results going into a buy. You know how it's going to a buy. You play ship and you lose a long long days the next game. 00:08:10 Speaker 1: You know, and may you twilight. 00:08:13 Speaker 3: And I said this to you on the show, Like you and the boys on the couch, we we take the piece and a bit of fun. But I'm telling you we yeah, we sit back in the greenroom and watch all the games and mate with why the way you played? For a long time I remember talking and Tivan Cleary about you did he. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: Debut you, I haven't. I've actually brought into the club. Did he left twelve months later? 00:08:36 Speaker 3: I remember watching like I'll talk to young Fords sometimes and I say, if you want to know how to make your career and get the best out of yourselfe to watch Alex twelve. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: Number one. He's ridiculously fit. 00:08:47 Speaker 3: Number two he's got good acceleration and primarily the most important thing your good late footwork. You know, if you get late footwork, you're always punching yourself through and getting offloads. So good on your mate, do so good? 00:08:59 Speaker 2: It means I'm from your mate. Yeah. Obviously it's been tough like the last couple of years and stuff, But you know, I think the club we've gone a lot better this year than we were last year. So I think for us it's all about improvement now. 00:09:10 Speaker 1: Now, like your loyalties of the club like it must have been, because Tigers have been under the microscope for a long time, like it must have been. It's a it's a good sign of your character to stay at a club that has probably been under the pump for side like ever since you come into first grade. 00:09:26 Speaker 2: Really right, Yeah, to be honestly, like I've had a few opportunities to leave and go when I come up to a contract, even you know, particularly the last time I come off contract, I sort of I was actually I drove up to merely and I was actually speaking of Sea Bowl and stuff like that. 00:09:40 Speaker 1: But make sure to look at this. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: Older just moved here with you guys have to stay passport that dog is obviously as well. I was very close there. But you know, for me, I'm a loyal type of guy mate, and you know, I'm really great for our stayed and yeah, I think you. 00:09:56 Speaker 1: Know it's listening to blokes like gal who stay at and become like one club at Sharks and they deliver a premiership there like in a long time that they haven't seen success. I imagine like if you guys can and it looks

like you guys going up Tigers as a club, if you can, you know, jag a premiership by the time you're finished playing like that had means so much to you, I imagine one. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: Hundred percent, Like you know, the club means a lot to me. Obviously almost played there now for ten years. I think next year you'll win with tenth season. So if I you know, one day when I wrap it up, I'd love to, you know, play finals and win the premiership. 00:10:31 Speaker 1: And those Tigers fans they're like that the scenes when you guys play a like art Oval and they're all on the hill like they seem like they're passionate, like they'll get into your if you aren't playing well, but they're they're loyal, Like it's a good fan base to have. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think we play some of the best footy there. Like you play a few more games there. But yeah, like you said, man, if you're not playing well, you get you get boot off. Playing well, they get rolled by a. 00:10:57 Speaker 3: Big bit Paramounta and the Tigers. You don't realize what enormous support you have until you start winning. We can get on a roll all of a sudden, like you man, everyone comes out. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: Of the woodwork. 00:11:11 Speaker 3: Before before we talked further in your career, Fletcher ninety, how much has your life changed since you started appearing on that. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: See it's crazy, you know, I might have more of a future there than but then honest, it's been awesome man, Like it's just good man like, especially like you know, the Arab communities, man, they just love it, like you know, and like it's just yeah, it's just been awesome. 00:11:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, make the barbecue the other day and I had to do podcasts see filthy mate, that was that was awesome. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cracker spiel to make it mate. I heard you got the night on the on the entry for Customs. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: Reputation Proceeds. 00:11:57 Speaker 2: It was good man, it was. It was cracking out of the boys over obviously bring him down to green Acre and we enjoyed it. Man. 00:12:03 Speaker 1: First of all, HANDI do that in the first time Fletcher has ever been that far out. Well, Fletch thinks like us western what like, just take us back. The first thing you ever did with Fletchinghindi was that when they had you Benji happy and you forgot to you forgot the Tigers team song. 00:12:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the first time. And then to be honest, it was just that and nothing. I thought. It was just like one of them segments. I was just like and they started asking from these things at me and I was just like responding how I thought it was just of natural instinct And then next minute I knew it blew up. And then and a few segments later and do you. 00:12:39 Speaker 1: Enjoy doing it. Do you enjoy doing that stuff? Like? 00:12:41 Speaker 2: Is that made to me? It's like it's honestly, it's like a it's honor and it's a privileged to work with your dad and to work with fletching Heinie. Mate, good guys, I'll look up to you. 00:12:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:12:54 Speaker 2: And I was a parafin growing up so liked he was like yeah. 00:12:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, like, you guys take the piss out of him so much that probably like a lot of the modern generation don't realize how good he was. Heindi. Yeah, it's actually say because you guys go never won a premiership. So people still growing up now who never saw Heindi, we'd go like, look at this to lose he first. 00:13:18 Speaker 3: Started doing our show and they started doing the flesh and heidis and taking the piss and all that sort of stuff. Some of Heindi's old text. When I'd run into him, that'd say, oh, you know, we're a bit worried about what's going on. You know, we think he should be a serious commentator. Okay, sorry, Heindi a serious commentator. But the other thing I said. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: You know what boys think of it like this, there's a million commentators there's me of him around, but there's not many flesh and Heindis. That's the thing. And I think people are screaming like ever since like the Old Footy Show's finished, people are screaming for that sort of content, like funny just taking the pissed up like even't had that in a long time since the Old Footy Show finished. 00:13:55 Speaker 2: It's awesome segment to watch it. I watched them guys every week. 00:13:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fletched Heindi and calf and Magic Ground. They're sitting on the sideline doing sort of the alternate commentary and the Warriors are playing and Luke Metcalfe looks over at them not long before before full time and sees them at full time, just goes straight over sits with them and like just goes oh boys like going, I love you blokes, love everything you do. And they're like so funny. Really that's yeah, It's amazing how many of the boys they want to do that sort of stuff, but they they don't do it because like they're not like not embarrassed, but they're afraid of being shamed. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: To get into them. 00:14:38 Speaker 1: They take the piss out of them all the time. But there's so many like undercover funny blokes in the NRL who just behind closed doors. They're the funniest people ever. But then as soon as a Michael camera gets in front of their face, they stiff and right up. Jerome Hughes is one of them. Hughesy is one of the funniest blokes ever. Takes piss out of everyone, and then as soon as he has a glass of red wine, just turns into an absolute animal. Trice said to me once that we had the Parents weekend. 00:15:05 Speaker 3: She has that guy see a player and yeah, t Hughes, She goes, Oh my god, he's awful. 00:15:11 Speaker 1: He's a champion red one right. But like him, particularly like when he when a camera comes out, he doesn't show that side of himself. I'm sure when the boys finish up playing, they'll get out of their skin. The Tigers like that bloke who's the who's the secret funny guy. 00:15:27

Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a secret, but Tito ever since he come man, he's just got everyone in the stitches and he's got that like I don't know if he's got that sort of comedy sort of Kevin Hart sort of style about him, and he sort of he's just yeah, he's awesome man, but. 00:15:42 Speaker 1: He's he seems like the height, like the energy man. 00:15:45 Speaker 2: He's the energy man. But every day you can't you can't have it. You can't have a down day, bro. You can't just walk in and just go back to work. You just got to You got to face him, and he gets you. 00:15:53 Speaker 1: Up for it. 00:15:53 Speaker 3: So I imagine sometimes you walk in the train and you feel a little bit tired and he's starts going, oh fuck. 00:16:00 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who like undercover as well, the fine new boys like Lato and Samuela. I play with them at Manly. They had good value too. They are funny, funny blokes, particularly Samuela. His parents are so nice. 00:16:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: Also nice people in Jordan and Jurdah for a bit the last few years, but it's such nice. 00:16:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:16:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, you went to paramounta Marist Yeah, params yeah, she's great history of rugby league there. 00:16:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went to school there. Obviously grew up in Maryland, so I was only down to the road west Mead. But yeah, they used to be a real mad footy school. But then I think when I come in the Prince with torn brother, Patty sort of brushed all the foot. He put it to the side and started focusing on the school stuff, the education. 00:16:40 Speaker 1: How do you go with academics? 00:16:42 Speaker 2: I was sure. I was all right, yeah, yeah, I don't know if you h. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bad time, but you can't remember Marris was sort of Westfield Sports High before Westfield Sports type. When I was coming through the old commons Pan cup mate, they won it. 00:17:04 Speaker 1: They were just stacked and there they. 00:17:06 Speaker 3: Recruit get guys from all over New South Wales and the country areas. 00:17:10 Speaker 1: Was there any other NR old boys who went to that school or sportsman Kaylors? 00:17:15 Speaker 2: I thinkparentity Paul Gunn went there. 00:17:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, because he was Paramouna Jr. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, apparently he went there. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: Anyone in your year might Nah. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: All my mates were just knock about blokes. 00:17:31 Speaker 1: Bikes. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Cooper Steady ones are lovely. They are so your paramounta junr. 00:17:43 Speaker 2: On top of that, yeah, Para junior did all my came through, all my juniors through power. We were all successful in mates. Issue bore all that twenties and then yeah, just like I said before, then I haven't picked up a twenty year old. 00:17:56 Speaker 1: And any like the blokes have gone on with you to make it out of those. 00:18:02 Speaker 2: Sites to I played a lot of more junior footy with you. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. 00:18:08 Speaker 2: I think he's retired now, but from me hip injury, I feel I verse most of the boys like Roamy, are you right, Toro May versus verse that you're younger, but he played Oh so is. 00:18:21 Speaker 1: That your age group? 00:18:22 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:18:22 Speaker 1: Are you born in nineteen o seven, six ninety six? Yeah, okay, so you're still young, tailing far out. He's been around for. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, Roami, who was like all them. Yeah, it was a massive rivalry para, especially us coming through the grades. Yeah, yeah, it was massive. 00:18:40 Speaker 1: When you have Ivan the Tigers that you only had him for twelve months. You were saying, yeah, like could you see him him as a coach back then? Could you see how good he was? Like obviously he's had so much success now, but you didn't have it as much back down. 00:18:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. To be honest, man, that year that he had us, we ended up on twenty eight or thirty points, but it was the tightest year in a long time. We finished ninth, but on twenty eight points, and there was just that falling against didn't get us in there. Man. He was an awesome coach. I can't speak quite enough of him. Yeah, especially as a young bloke. Just the way he nursed me through that first year of an RL was just it was awesome. 00:19:13 Speaker 3: And then returned to Penris. But I suppose they've got a pretty good half back. It's probably you know, yeah as well he was actually living with the time, not like that. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: Yea. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: Even see even like that the game you guys, Ver's the Dogs. The other day, we're watching it. Remember like back in the probably like a decade ago where basically across the NRL there was that many gun players and they'd all come through that Melbourne system and you were like, oh he used to play, you know, like James Maloney's come through the Melbourne system. Heats the boys who would go there, their value go up. Then they'd sign as the star player somewhere else. You see in that game where Tiger's Verse Dogs, it was like nine or ten Penrick games in it. Yeah, like look the may brothers like obviously Critter and all those boys. But yeah, you see the sliding like he's done such a good job. But they've got so many duns out there in Penrith. But the amount of blokes that have come through that system now and they've just like dispersed in the NRL. 00:20:10 Speaker 2: That's crazy, man, the nursery out there, Like I said before, since we were young, like yeah, Penrith have always had a massive great n See. 00:20:17 Speaker 1: What Tailor is going to be. Tailor man is going to be a good pick up for his Yeah going forward, mate, he's man. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: He's a powerhouse and awesome player. Man and awesome blokers were off the field. Oh yeah, I'll get along, say, well with both of them, you know and Tailor and you're just awesome blokesmen off the field, and like on the film,

there's obviously athletes, especially Tailor. 00:20:38 Speaker 1: He's everything pretty misunderstood a tailor, I think. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: So. Yeah, he's obviously been through a lot on that over the last sort of twenty four months. But yeah, man, if you if you get in conversation him off the field, man, he's most down to earth, you know, I can't speak. 00:20:52 Speaker 1: I love what they're do, Like obviously they do the potty and like vogues together to even Terrell, it's there. I love how they embrace just how like a different mold they are, particularly like Terrell, he acknowledges he's like you know I'm not. 00:21:04 Speaker 2: I'm not. 00:21:05 Speaker 1: I'm not changing who I am to be a Rubby League player, Like this is what I love doing. I love logan and doing this stuff. Like he just bes himself a. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: One hundred percent man and he embraces it like you said before me, like he's he's happy to be different. And I think that the positive thing out of all of this is Benji like encourages him and everyone else to be themselves. And that's massive, man know, for him to encourage it. And you know they're both awesome blokes and Terror he's the funniest bloke. He's one of them on the cover funny guys. 00:21:31 Speaker 1: Cheers rang out Brenda Smith and gets I just need to ask your favorite. I thought, geez, what's going on here? 00:21:37 Speaker 3: And he said, oh mate, Terrell rang me and he wants to come on your shower. I said, fuck yeah, just send me his number and I rang him up and he's like, oh mate, thanks so much. 00:21:46 Speaker 1: I said, I remember when you said that. I was like, that's I would not have picked that. I wouldn't have to be so keen to do it. 00:21:53 Speaker 2: He's a low key, funny guy, bro. He's very like, how's Benji Young, he's gone good man, Like, yeah, I was so happy on the weekend. I get the results in such a good team. And you know, he's been awesome this year, you know, especially you know with the cars that he got dealt early with the whole Galvo situation and had to go through it again with Hooker and stuff like that. Mate, he just dealt with it awesome. And yeah, yeah, I can't speA highly enough of him. 00:22:16 Speaker 1: Way and do you go toil because you played with Benji as well? 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I played with him so my first so eighteen I didn't play sorry, yeah, nineteen twenty and twenty one so played together three years. Yeah. 00:22:26 Speaker 1: How's that when you have a you have a crossroads where you play and then he ends up being your coach? Is that kind of weird? 00:22:31 Speaker 2: Sometimes? Yeah? Or not really, to be honest, I always stay in touch with it. When he left and he was working out Fox, I stay in touch with him. But probably the element there that's like at the start, I was like we used to play together, yeah, you know, But in saying that, like, yeah, it's been awesome man. We obviously have a really good relationship because we've been together through so much. 00:22:49 Speaker 1: But yeah, he seems like he's so loved by all the players. Like I remember when Harry Grant went to you guys on a loan and when he come back, he was like Benji. Benji was obviously playing with his then, but he was like, mate, Benji is just he just has the whole, like he just owns the room. Like all the boys love him. He's just the best bloke, shouts, shouts a lot of the beers and stuff like that. So he's us with him like he had crocodiles in his pockets. 00:23:17 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you would have coached him as all right, Yeah, I a little bit in two thousand and five. 00:23:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, the back end of that year did a little bit. He was It was really it was really good. At that side. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: They had the harsh combination was he and Scotty Prince Prince He was more the student of the game. Benji back in those days was just a free wheeler and tunes. He was happy to do that. Like you know, most of the coaching I did was with Princey as far as he's kicking. But with Benji, you know, you just let him be Benji. 00:23:46 Speaker 1: He was the maverick. You know, he was the one that sort of made give the side a complete completely different point of difference to the rest, but made he's done a good job a tier. He's done a good job. Made he should tackle the players more because since she tackled he holy fucking oh mane two, he's on fire. 00:24:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been killing the frust man. Yeah. I think over the last month of foot especially like he's been the best player and you know, especially on the weekend man, like he's probably the difference in a lot of ways. So yeah, yeah, he's he's just been awesome. Man. I couldn't be happier for him. 00:24:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you because you played you would have played Lebanon with him before he even came to the Tigers. 00:24:26 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, so he was he was still young, twenty seventeen. He was like, he's too younger than me, so he would have been like maybe eighteen. 00:24:32 Speaker 1: It was Freddie Fitler coach and he coach. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just by a chance that our captain got knocked out in the woman. He was holding the pad for one of the boys and you know, boys run through the pad that captain was holding the pad, and then one of the boys run too hard and she mocked him on. I think he got stretched off on that. So it was as was as was eighteenth man. So Ads came in and won us the game. That game, she scored the winning try and the rest was history. And Freddy picked him the whole the whole tournament and end the debut on the next year. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: And did you were you coached by Michael Checker as well? 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Nah? So the last World Cup I missed, But yeah, Checks the good blog, I have a really good lad should. 00:25:10 Speaker 1: Be himage, tremendous fellow Maronite. 00:25:12 Speaker 2: Yeah he's a fellow. Yeah, and people people get surprised on to people he's

Lebanese, but. 00:25:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's actually Checks Maroon Hite. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: The other thing about Checked that some he's highly like. I think he actually coach on the NRL these days, as far as the assistance to a lot of the works the head coaches like the real figurehead. He's a great presence. I think he could. I think that check where he made his money the clothing industry, in fashion, made his money in fashion really. 00:25:41 Speaker 2: For Blake the dresses so poor, he's made some money. I'll tell you that. One time he invited us to his house and I was thinking maybe fellow LEO will be in green Acher early and something sent me that address was could you I was like, up there they mentioned I. 00:25:57 Speaker 1: Remember, I remember, I need to only one mate. I probably I would have played maybe four first grade games. And I get a call from a random number and it was Michael Checker and he was coaching in Japanese rugby at the time, over Pan twenty twenty one and we're staying up in Noosa and he was like, mate, what's doing And I said, oh, no, not much and he's like, mate, I'm over coaching in Japanese. Ruby, I'm thinking about getting I need a new fly half. I thinking about maybe bringing a league over if you're interested. And I was like, oh mate, check it up. And I didn't get the message clearly. He thought like, oh mate, my time in the NL was done. And I was going, oh, you know, check, I'm still quite young. I'd love to chance my hand still here in the N round and he goes, oh really, and is that funny? Is that I appreciate you not laughing Twilight and I disrespect you? And I was like, oh shit, okay, no mate, check So I'll hold off. In hindsight, jeseus it would have been a good opportunity to go over there live in Japan for twelve months. I can imagine he must have been ready to say, oh really, because I was talking to Belly anyway, have a good career being coached by Madge. How was Madge? 00:27:08 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was good, man like, honestly, like speaking honestly, like, you know, the first couple of years, Mate, we're going really well, and I think there was a stage there. We saw the plateau and you know, there was a lot of media attraction and stuff like that, a lot of pressure on the club. And to be honest, man like, he's a really good coach. I can't speak high enough of him, and I know he got it. It was tough for him when he was at Tigers, you know, with all the media and stuff like that. But but he sort of showed me what it took to be a first grader. Yeah right, and sort of I'm in debt him from that sort of point of view. You know, Army camps every year and sort of just a week to beak grind. So I was still young obviously when I had him, and Mate, yeah, he's an. 00:27:45 Speaker 1: Awesome How were those Army camps were? 00:27:48 Speaker 2: They tough, tough, really, yeah, especially I think the first one, I was like, it was three days, but it was just like it was relentless, no sleep, no sleep, blind

forward ye, proper, proper army care. But it was like massive, I open up a good experience and that obviously you've done a couple, but that first one. Man, Yes, it's. 00:28:10 Speaker 1: Hard to it's actually hard to explain it to people sometimes, just how bad, particularly the ones with no sleep, where people are like, what, you stayed up for three days no sleep and you're trying to explain how hard it was. People don't get it. Yeah, it is the worst thing in the world if you. 00:28:23 Speaker 3: Make it have no sleep for three days. Most weekends totally different. Yeah, but that's yeah. I mean like mad just had a little bit of criticism, and like thinking about Madge is one of the most disciplined men you'd ever come across, and the first cousin of disciplined stubbornness, and it takes him a lot to change his ways. I can see he's adjusted some of his ways at the Broncos. But as you know, there's certain non negotiables when it comes to being a professional athlete, particularly rugular and one is physical fitness, isn't it? 00:28:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent And it was massive on that. That and hard work, like if you didn't have them too, like it didn't really matter how how good of a player you were. He just he wouldn't ye, he just wouldn't budge on them. 00:29:08 Speaker 1: Two things about Harry Grant when he went there. 00:29:10 Speaker 2: That was awesome obviously. I remember like it was one game we beat the Broncos and he was getting chance it off the field and that was obviously awesome obviously with what he's going on to do now in the game. To play with him and to have him at the club, I think you know it was it was awesome. 00:29:25 Speaker 1: Seemed like that year just had like a tight group, like I think Gubby Joshy Reynolds was there as well, Brooksy Elijah Taylor was that his last year. 00:29:35 Speaker 2: He's the one. The funniest bloke really. 00:29:38 Speaker 1: I've heard. I've heard he is a terrific by. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: Have you you got to see he's got a page Have you seen it? Yeah? Yeah, if you want to get a good inside, yeah, have a look at that. 00:29:48 Speaker 1: He was also that year, I think it was twenty twenty. Was he also like practicing to be a pilot as well. 00:29:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was practicing to be a pilot. 00:29:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he'd fly on his days off of that, yeah. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: Off and that. Yeah, it was actually there's there's a there's a couple of stories. 00:30:05 Speaker 1: A couple of flying their days off as well. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: Monday and the next day was it was. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: I've heard that one. I was getting I remember your guys mad Monday, the boys were facetiming me and Elijah was there and then like he was he was flying like a couple of days later. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, and David, Yeah, and not play long time together. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's sort of crazy how sort of he's he's career sort of finished up, but you know, I still got

love for him. 00:30:34 Speaker 1: Still still over there playing. 00:30:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, still over there. Plan I'm not too sure. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: It's making he bounces around from country to countries. Not in Japan. It's like Serbia. Isn't the Contrick over there as well? 00:30:47 Speaker 2: Contric's playing that Catalan. 00:30:49 Speaker 1: He's a cad I saw them, Yeah, not for is one of the one of the one of the strangest blokes, but one of the Melbourne He was so a breath of fresh air from like the people that Melbourne usually recruited. Let me just tell people, nother wouldn't have been the normal bloke that Craig Bellamy would have signed. But no fer he was so different to everyone that he'd like kind of it was refreshing to the group and he fit in really well. But he is so he's so like what's the word he's not He's not arrogant. But he would just say the funniest ship to belly Ache and that Bellya could go, No, fer mate, great work on those plus one carry mate, we need more of it from here. And he'd be sitting at the back of room video session and you go, belly A, come on, I'm the no office. He goes, I'm opening three hundred and sixty five days of a year, no public holidays. 00:31:45 Speaker 2: I remember there was one session. He one year, twenty twenty. I think you got Winger of the Year and I come here, come in a full time. I said, you killed it. He goes, It's just another day in the office, but just just do something. And then there was another game. This is another story. I don't smashed timody stories. But we we verse rabbit o's and we got pumped and then all right, social media did its thing and whatever and come after him, and then it come out on Twitter and said it wasn't my fault. It was the forwards they had said before because he's because he's such a good blokeer like he we just we just it just goes down. I was in the middle of that day. I just let it go over my head and you know, I still love him. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: What took of all places you go? What took him to serve you anyone? I'm not sure. I see it on his Instagram and that that he's over there. I don't know. I don't know where. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, this Belgrave. I don't know what he's doing over there though, because he's he's too good. I've seen some of his highlights, like he posted something the other day he was dead to walking over the line scoring. 00:32:53 Speaker 3: Well, it might just be lifestyle, I mean living in the Balkans. Yeah, but enough shot mate, it's spreading around the becoming a franchise mate. 00:33:02 Speaker 1: Can you run through as well? The one hundred and sixteen game try scoring drought, which you broke because because that just that just turned into like the biggest thing on social media, just like when's Alex twelg and the score that game it was against the storm A when you scored. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, against Storm. I think it was only try that game as well? 00:33:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it was like? Yeah it was

a really low scoring game. 00:33:23 Speaker 2: Aeah, no it was high score, but like scoring on now. 00:33:28 Speaker 1: Did what was that? What was that feeling like when you score? 00:33:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I could look good about that. But to be honest, obviously it was good to get the monkey off the back, but one hundred and sixteen games. 00:33:45 Speaker 1: What did it feel like for a bloke who hadn't scored in one hundred and sixteen games? Was it like complete foreign territory when you cross the line? Really? 00:33:51 Speaker 2: I didn't know. When I got up, I was like weird, I just like it just what it feels off the score. But then I was I did have to do much as well, thinking in the back head it was a shit. 00:34:00 Speaker 1: I remember if you went to the video referee, if they took it off. Yeah. I remember the try because like someone dropped it and it just bounced up and Clem was there, David Klemar and he like went to lunch at it. Saw you sort of backed away and you just like a stavy man on a burrito. 00:34:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was crazy. 00:34:19 Speaker 4: I asked, did you have any did you have any disallowed in those one hundred and sixty how many Cups game one hundred and sixteen one hundred and sixteen games? Did you have any that were actually disallowed by the video ref? 00:34:28 Speaker 2: I had one against camera and it was actually a proper good try. It was like kick Chase on katchick and then like it was like well bobbled into my hand and I ran away and scored under the post and they disallowed it. 00:34:39 Speaker 1: You would have been did you celebrate hard? 00:34:42 Speaker 2: What's that? 00:34:42 Speaker 1: Did you celebrate it hard? 00:34:44 Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, it was early days as well. How good is this? I've got my first cry and I took it off. Man, it just didn't you like? 00:34:51 Speaker 1: After that first try one hundred and sixteen game one didn't like? Was it a week or two later? You scored another one? 00:34:56 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later? I scored against Cowboys? Yeah, yeah, I remember the man, I remember that happens. 00:35:02 Speaker 1: People were going here it comes. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: And there was enough ordinary try as well. I haven't actually scored a try. If you really want to, if you really want to luck on it. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Down, you come close all the time in and around the post because you've got footwork, and we all sit because whenever the Tigers played, the boys always back at it. 00:35:18 Speaker 1: Run and we'ren't be watching. They go fucking. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: Yeah close. But I think, you know what, it's become such a thing that when I think, when I come to that sort of position to score, people just think I'm not letting this bug score. He's never scored. 00:35:34 Speaker 1: Imagine that on the like on the tip sheet where it's got like head on a plate, you know, come up, he's the Tigers this week. It's just your head on a plate going. 00:35:40 Speaker 2: We can't let Alex. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: What about what about like your training and diet because you mate, you're ripped. What's what's your diet? 00:35:49 Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, I try to do like heaves and paleo. I do heaps, trying to do anything like process and stuff like that you're cooking or animal fats and stuff like that, and he stick to like no seed oils. 00:36:02 Speaker 1: Are you into that the like that carnival diet the people do? 00:36:06 Speaker 2: No, not really, because I lost my fish as well. Like I eat a lot of like your world caught fish and stuff like that. I try like that's eighty percent of the time, ninety percent of the time yep, then like yeah, ten percent of the time, sort of just enjoy myself a. 00:36:17 Speaker 3: Big I heard a story once where some of the boys told me, you'll order a big mac or something you wanted. 00:36:24 Speaker 2: To, Yeah, you wanted to. Tim Manner's story twenty seventeen World Cup Tom Manner before we vers tong that he goes, Bro, you got to promise me that after the game, because it was our final game for the tournament. He goes, after the game, we have a big Mac together. Oh yeah, bro, you got my work. You got my work. And then I was eating and then he looked up. He looked at me, and I'll pick up the big and I'm like, yea, how good is this? And then like twenty minutes later or something, he looks in the bin and it was just all the bread and everything else and the meat was missing. What are you doing? And then yeah, that story is just stuck with you. 00:37:00 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. But there's a lot of bread on a big mac like this, you know, I'd almost want them to take just the middle piece out, happy to do the double paddy. When did you become? 00:37:12 Speaker 2: When did this all start? 00:37:13 Speaker 1: I started this week because I've yeah, I've started. I don't know if you you know Twilight, but I let myself go sort of the last year and a half. Look, yeah, I know, but I got a fast wearing baggy clothes. By the way, I've completely lost all my muscle masks, not that I had much to begin with that. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: Do you have cheat days? Yeah, mainly after a game or something. I'll try to join myself a bit, but I try to sort. 00:37:37 Speaker 1: Of what does enjoy yourself? Intel? For Twaley? 00:37:42 Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, got a restaurant or something with my missus or one of the boys. 00:37:46 Speaker 1: And what's like what's your cheat meal? What do you get? 00:37:48 Speaker 2: Mustill stay away from like deep stuff like chips now still I won't need that sort of stuff, but like I have a burger or something. 00:37:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like that mashed potato and veggies. And do you drink alcohol? 00:37:58 Speaker 2: Not really everything then, but yeah, like just definitely not, but you're mad. I'll have a crack or wedding and that special pasion my mates birthday or something like that. 00:38:10 Speaker 1: Yeah are you are you married? 00:38:12

Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:38:12 Speaker 1: Yeah? See the barbecue? Yeah yeah, well I saw the barbecue and I didn't know whether you tied or not or not. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: I was looking for some of the comments that people were sending me. What were they punching this? 00:38:26 Speaker 1: I saw because I saw your partner on there. I just wasn't sure where because you're because you're taking your ring off. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't wear it. Was was getting to me, but I said, Babe, I can't. We can't. Jewelry. Don't worry. 00:38:37 Speaker 1: Dad does it all the time is wrong nightclubs. 00:38:40 Speaker 3: But for me, because I wore it accidentally in the game, I've got to take it off and just CD my finger, so now it just actually stuck on. Really, Yeah, it's terrible. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Even if we get divorced, it's gonna stay. Yeah. 00:38:54 Speaker 1: You can get them cut. You can get them like sword off I think, or like they chain them off. Similarly they cut you know when they cut a cast off. Have you ever had a cast? Yeah, I've had a cast Actually, Mate trips me out every time. Have you seen the sow that they make to cut a cast off. It can cut through the cast, but it can't cut your skin. Have you seen that. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've got one of them. 00:39:15 Speaker 1: I've seen the test. I've seen like videos of it. So they do it. They can't and that's why when it hits your skin, the blades like, it can't penetrate through skin, but it can penetrate through the plasa. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: It's the same thing for the ring. 00:39:26 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's the same thing for the ring. 00:39:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, to give it a correck. Trish has gone away to the Goldie. What did the wife things when you're going on mate? Look at all these comments? Did she go off fantastic? 00:39:39 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was good for her, but yeah, not too good for me. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: The confidence here's one fair When I was over at the Olympics last year at Paris, buzz Field Buzz Rossfield can filled in for the Family podcast in my role. So anyway, Trish rainy and she goes, is there. 00:39:59 Speaker 1: Anything I need to know? And I went like what? 00:40:04 Speaker 3: And because Cooper or Jack had asked Buzz a question, do you ever like you find. 00:40:08 Speaker 1: Out Verry Verry stories? Like do you ever hide stories from people that you know? 00:40:12 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:40:12 Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, yeah, what do you say, I've got a hold DOSSI here on your husband Matt. 00:40:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he'd said that, Like Buzz He was like, yeah, I've got a couple of stories. He's like, I've buried some of like your dad because I like him, and we were like what what I said? 00:40:27 Speaker 3: I think he's marking around Anyway. When I got through that, I get a call from Buzz. 00:40:33 Speaker 1: Mate, how are you listen? Buzz I really appreciate feeling. 00:40:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, mate, yeah mate, I'm just ringing into state your missus is an outstanding. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: Sort thanks Buzz. 00:40:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, Buzz is married, don't he? 00:40:53 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:40:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you shouldn't be a threat. You'd like to think Buzz isn't a threat of taking missus? What if she left me for Buzz, I'll tell you I would no longer be on this Goodbye glouse, twilighty. Some random questions. What's your segment? 00:41:14 Speaker 3: Nah? 00:41:14 Speaker 1: Just random? I was just thinking about you. Blake's in your career and it's born off in the stories. Who knows. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: The best player you've played with toy. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Say Benji Benji? Yeah, yeah, it was just like even see him run around now, I man like some of the stuff he does, like it's still got it. You don't say people in our game now doing it, you know what I mean? And even playing with him, mate, it's just unbelievable. 00:41:38 Speaker 1: Was he Like, was he hero growing up? 00:41:40 Speaker 2: Like? Were you definitely one of them? Yeah, Like you'd always go in the backyard. I remember me and my brothers playing in the backyard and then we used to like stepping the Benji the Marshall. 00:41:49 Speaker 1: Did you try the slip past? 00:41:50 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:41:53 Speaker 1: What about the best blake you've played? Again? Someone you come up with? 00:41:56 Speaker 2: God man, that he walked off. That guy is just too good. Yeah. I'd say Desco obviously played with him early in my career, but yeah, just like every time I versed him, he's always been doing the s is strong and. 00:42:11 Speaker 3: He's that big across the that year very Italian that Yeah, that year that you played with him before he ran to the Roosters, he was like untouchable, unbelievable. 00:42:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think it was his he's had. I mean he's had unbelievable years since then, but I think like that year for the Tigers just before he left, it was some of the stuff he was doing. It was like his highlights from that. He's crazy. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's when he sort of just started playing origin in that as well, and just yeah, he was unbelievable. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: Who manages you tually? So you'll stay at the club. The teammate you're closest with it, come close with all the. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: Boys, like I get it wrong, really well with all the boys. But I mean, obviously you know, he's been there some of my highest moments, some of my lowest moments. And yeah, built a really good connection even with his family, his mummy's dad and my wife and we're all sort of close to each other now. 00:43:03 Speaker 3: And tally, what about mate, the teammate. If you're going on a long haul flight, who's the one that if you come and sat next to you went, oh fuck. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: Tito. Yeah yeah, And that's imagine you're going to the fourteen now sitting next to him and he's just in your ear. 00:43:23 Speaker 3: It's always with you, mate,

Come on, dabby, mate, what about the opponent now? Last this one of you, Jack and your coops. Who's the opponent you come up against, whether it be sledging, whatever reason that you just go fuck this guy. Not not that you dislike them, but every time you come up against me, go, man, it's going to be hard work today, Like he's going to be sledging and everything. 00:43:48 Speaker 1: M h oh, go on, what aret you coops? Anyone stick out? 00:43:52 Speaker 2: Probably mahoney, read money. 00:43:56 Speaker 1: Niggling. 00:43:57 Speaker 2: If you drop a ball, he's just coming across. And yeah, but he's a really good bloke off the field. Actually I'm off the field, but yeah, little things like that. But even just watching him sometimes you can just tell people just get an yeah. 00:44:10 Speaker 1: Sledging much of a thing, mate, It should be fair. I can't even remember the last time I was. I was well, I haven't played in a while, but I wasn't getting sledged much when I was playing. Maybe they felt sorry for me. I don't know. 00:44:20 Speaker 2: I think they feel sorry for me. 00:44:24 Speaker 1: Anyone you come up against you when man, this guy's. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: One person I'll tell you what twilight he was on the field. There's one person who was on my team who I would hate to be against, Tyson Gamble. So round two and twenty twenty three we played the Tigers. In this game, everyone was getting into KP got knocked out. 00:44:41 Speaker 2: Oh it was a crazy game. 00:44:43 Speaker 4: And I remember so Tyson Gamble come from the Broncos for the first time and lovely bloke, right. We all expected him to be a bit of a rap bag, but he was that nice and quiet. We're like, oh, maybe it was just at the Broncos, Like he doesn't really do it here at Newcastle whatever. He came off the bench that day for KP because he was playing fourteen, put up a bomb to the novice and I swear to God, the words that come out of his mouth I'll never be able to repeat. And the whole team like looked at him and went, fuck, where's this bloke been? 00:45:13 Speaker 2: The whole persons. 00:45:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, Like that's one player I would hate to be on his bad side opposite him. 00:45:21 Speaker 1: One that was on our side who used to sledge horrendously at training and on the field, Will Chambers. Chamber was the most relentless sledge I've ever seen. One time he got suspended for five weeks and like he came over, you know on the training side, it's like the NRL side and then the boys who aren't playing and they prepared the NRL side. So he was playing my center in the non NRL side preparing during the week and the job of that team is to basically you challenging the NRL side, but you're just preparing them to play good on the weekend. Chambers took it upon himself to like emasculate everyone on the NRL side, so that they went into the game with no confidence and they were the worst players and the like to the point where he was because he was a senior player and like was so tight with belly. 00:46:06 Speaker 5: He was also he was saying, like, mate, they don't rate you're here and that, like saying ship like that the teammates mate. He was so funny and then he'd give us. He'd give us infant like when we're playing Queensland Cut. He'd find out dirt on players, the opposition players in the Queensland Cut that we're playing against, and go, here's some stuff I found on this player if you want to go after him. 00:46:26 Speaker 1: We were like, holy ship. He was the best I've ever seen and he was so good at it. He put people off their game so much. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Similar yeah, oh yeah. He used to just like gound the field and just yeah, just say some personal stuff to blokes. I was playing with some blokes at the time and he's just other the stuff he say, you wouldn't you wouldn't say, you know what I mean, And he just. 00:46:47 Speaker 3: Man, what about like your favorite field in the league? Feel yeah, field opposition, Yeah, traveling. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: Favorite probably Bank West, best part of the East. 00:47:01 Speaker 1: What about least favorite field the place he. 00:47:05 Speaker 2: Or New Zealand. Every time we go to New Zealand. 00:47:07 Speaker 1: It's it's a hard game to players. 00:47:09 Speaker 3: Always wet as and cold and hard to get a purchase on the ball. 00:47:15 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Towns. 00:47:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sweaty up in town. Like they hit you around the ball, you just drop it. 00:47:20 Speaker 3: This is so hard at first coming to the competition, right first time we ever played up there. We walk in and we go, oh, yeah, like you know, you're in an air condition bus, hotel, into the air condition bus. You got off the bus and you go straight into the dressing room was air conditioned, and I'm thinking, fact, this is okay. Then we go out for our normal twenty to twenty five minute warm up. Mate, we come back in and we're just completely fucked. It took us a long while and to actually understand how we had to play it that week. 00:47:47 Speaker 1: Going north is actually like it's harder. People think playing in the rains hard when you go north and it's dry and the sweat gets on the ball, sweat, it's way worse than water. That's funny because I'm a real big here. I reckon in hot, humid conditions the leather ball was better. It's really funny the leather ball. When when a little bit of moisture went on the leather ball, it actually become more tacky. But I mean if I was pissing down a completely different piece, but I think the synthetic ball would sweat. It's actually slips. Yeah, it's such an advantage for those teams out there who practice it all the time. I remember when in COVID when we were playing at Sunshine We're based out of Sunshine Coast and Storm was playing Cowboys and this is a famous story. All the boys tell it to bag out Monster all the time. And Munster like he's known for saying ship before he even thinks about it, and he always wants to

have the last word in like right before warm up and always I always don't know why he wanted to the boys going right out of towns all day. Let's you know, take him into a grind, will beat him in the back end of the game. They want to do the flashy stufflet's do it. And Monster right before he goes bloody oath boys, he goes and guess what, it's too bloody hot for him up here. They can't handle the heat and everyone just went so they've come down from Townsville. 00:49:07 Speaker 3: Oh, who's a bloke in the shed like that? That always hit the last word. I'll probably say my mad funny with everyone gets in that mood to let people know. In a dressing room, it's all different characters and there's nothing worse before the game when everyone starts to talk and it's like everyone and everyone's gone, and remember and remember this, we're a bloken outside. I'm not going to say who he is because it highly embarrassing for him. We're playing one day and the coaches left two minute warning, ready to go, and everyone goes and the chief Paul Harry and the captain goes, right. 00:49:43 Speaker 1: Anyone got your final words? Who's got something to say? And this blake said, yeah, I have. 00:49:47 Speaker 3: I don't know about you blokes, a really bad feeling about today. 00:49:54 Speaker 1: Just what you want to hear. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: It looks like a mad bloke to play. He looks like have you had much to do with him before? Mate? 00:50:01 Speaker 1: He is one of the best, one of the best blokes as well. 00:50:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I got a frog in my. 00:50:05 Speaker 1: Throat getting all emotions. I don't know what that was vencral. Yeah, mate, one of the best. He's just and for someone who's so like not old, but like he's been around for a long time, he's just he fits him with every age group, you know what I mean, Like the eighteen year olds that go down to Melbourne. He's he because he's kind of got like a kid brain. So he gets on with them, gets along with all the older boys. He's We're at the time we come back in newyears Zoo once and Cooper rings me and goes, where's that? And I said, me and Mum, we're just coming back from the harbor. He goes, heah, me and. 00:50:36 Speaker 3: Monster here we're wondering the other time, get back and have a beer. Okay, So we arrive back anyway, the boys have got the music on, and then Trish, my wife, she always tries to dictate the music, so she'd puts something on Monster and change it. She puts something and he changed it straight away, and she goes, Cameron, this is my house if you don't mind. 00:50:54 Speaker 1: He goes, time to go to bed. 00:50:55 Speaker 2: To it this. 00:50:58 Speaker 1: No, this story is and he feels bad because she turned her back and I said, probably time for you to go to bed, and she turned around. Filthy and Munster fell on the grenade for me and said, oh, no, I said it. I said it and then no, I know because we kept it quiet for it because he didn't want me to get in trouble and I was blind and we're singing karaoke on this machine and yeah, Mum like wouldn't have him at the house for like ag Yeah. 00:51:25 Speaker 3: She holds a grudge. My favorite favorite destination to go away? 00:51:33 Speaker 2: You have a guess of that one. I've said a few. 00:51:37 Speaker 1: Do you go there a lot? 00:51:38 Speaker 2: No, I've been there once where it was crackout like it's probably my favorite place i've been. I've been in Europe of stuffs that since. 00:51:44 Speaker 1: But crazy that city built in the desert. Remember when we then did you go to the Is it the Atlantis? That big water park there the water park? 00:51:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a new hotel Atlans now app it's unbelievable, but they just built it. 00:51:57 Speaker 1: More and more people are moving there. 00:51:59 Speaker 2: The water park was cracked when we. 00:52:00 Speaker 1: Said, O mate, yeah, we went Dad. Dad went down this water slide. We were too young to go on the water like as a weight limit was like a height limit, and Dad went down on his own and it's the one where they said we're come on. It's one of the ones where the floor goes out from underneath you and you jet through and you go through like the shark tank. 00:52:19 Speaker 2: That's where I went. I went to that one in the air that's crazy. 00:52:22 Speaker 1: Dad come down, that'd say that ship down. 00:52:26 Speaker 2: You have to walk up all them stairs. Yes, I was walking up and walking down. I think the only way you can come down is through the slide. But then when I when I got up the top, I realized everyone's walking because they've seen like it's dangerous. 00:52:38 Speaker 1: Because you're free fall. It's a he It's like there's there's no rules over there. So you actually don't trust you know, like you got to water park here, you trust the ride. Yeah, because they're not going to hurt me. Here in Dubai, it's kind of like. 00:52:51 Speaker 2: You don't know what's going on. 00:52:53 Speaker 1: You need to do You need a visa in a passport to live there, because it seems like more and more people are going to live. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: Sure, he's me go that panics no tax Yeah, yeah, right, twelve percent or something or to. 00:53:06 Speaker 1: Some people go there to hide. Yeah. 00:53:10 Speaker 3: For a while, there was Martha Capital of the World, so all the Russians, the Russian oligarchs and people involved Russian Marchia to get on the bad side of the law. The in Dubai and the Admirance. They say, okay, you can come and live here, as long as you behave yourself, you play, We're going to throw you out. 00:53:24 Speaker 1: Because they want the money. 00:53:26 Speaker 2: You know. 00:53:26 Speaker 1: Well, they've just built this massive wave pool over there as well. Like Joey, Joey went over there last year. Matthew's brother Lighting hiding from the law. Yeah, he went over there and he reckons. It's like the best wavepool on earth. They've built in Dubai. Shout out to any of the surfers that are listening, want to go over Finally, what are you going to do when your tie which you like to coaching strength and conditioning hopefully hopefully? Yeah, he's made Tindy entirely made that. 00:53:58 Speaker 2: I was leading you. 00:53:59 Speaker 1: That's you're may will give you a crack on our show for sure, mate, Yeah bloody no, yeah, good one hundred mate. Set you're an a Lebanese footy show. You're not a bad idea? You do we Mitch Moses, Isaac Moses, well what it does? Look what we did for Benji in the show Benji if that show was so bad he went into coach, Yeah, that one did. How many episodes did Benji last on that? Not enough? Probably six too many? Seven, Thanks tiy. 00:54:36 Speaker 3: Hey brother, thank him coming all the way here. And once again, I thank you a lot for the stuff you do for our show. And congratulations on your career, mate and going forward. 00:54:45 Speaker 2: Good on your brother. 00:54:46 Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks, don't say thank