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Eventually I got curious and the being motioned over to me.
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And when I got close enough, it placed its hands over my eyes and said, Now you see.
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And I looked all around and I could see through what I would now describe as every dimension accessible.
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I found her in her car.
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She finally got a car.
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She was like, No one in New York City needs a car.
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Because they have these flying Uber-like things now, and public transport has changed.
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So don't use the by-location journeys as anything predictive for sure.
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Because it's just another potential.
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It's just another timeline.
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She was like, Yeah, that was your old timeline.
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And now it's very different.
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And I went, Oh, what did I do differently?
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And she was like, Um, uh, you just made a different conscious choice.
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I just want everyone to know that I'm proud of how hard you work to get to where I am today.
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You're building a beautiful earth for your children and your grandchildren and their grandchildren's children, and it's all worth it.
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We are in a peaceful space now, and it's because of your hard work today.
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Namaste, beautiful souls.
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Today I'm joined by Pamela Arlen, who is a world-renowned trans channel mystic, spiritual teacher, and Pamela does something unique and incredible, billocates and interacts with humans from the future, um, across all different types of humans that have all different types of personalities and energies, and and Pamela then gains insight into the future of humanity and then brings that information back into the present, which is then helping to shape our our beautiful new earth.
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So I'm really excited about this conversation.
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Welcome, Pamela.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Well, I would love to begin with you because I read somewhere that um you started to channel at the age of five.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I would I would like how did it all begin?
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And yeah, please share your story with us.
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Yeah, so we grew up pretty poor, and I shared a home with my grandmother and grandfather, and my mom and dad and my brother.
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My mom and dad and my brother um all lived um like shared the same bedroom as myself.
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And I remember being in my tiny little twin bed in the corner, and my brother was like directly in front of me a little bit to the left.
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And I had, I just remember so much like the yellow um this yellow comforter and white daisies and all this sort of thing.
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And I remember the smell of it and everything.
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And you know, when when someone would wake up at night, you know, when you live in a 1970s trailer, and when they opened the door to go to the bathroom, it was like one of these sliding doors, and it was old.
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And you know, I guess my parents didn't believe in WG 40 or anything because it went and you know, we were like, oh gosh, everyone would wake up, and you know, and if you have to turn on light, blah blah blah.
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So the the light seemed like it was turned on.
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Something like a light woke, yeah, a light, but it wasn't the bedroom light, and there was no screeching of the door, nothing like that, just a massive tall being.
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And he had um a golden robe on and a golden sash.
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Um, and he he was so tall.
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And um and I just remember being just in awe of of that feeling, and and I wasn't afraid, but I was a little bit flabbergasted, you know, and I couldn't quite figure out what that was.
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And my brother and his little crib were five years apart, so he was like barely, you know, he was a toddler at that time.
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I was some somewhere between the ages of five and six.
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And um, and he was holding on to the crib and sitting up and shaking, shaking it and shaking it and laughing.
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He was just laughing like uncontrollably and reaching for the being.
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And I at first I went, Oh, I don't know what that is.
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Put the covers back up, but he kept laughing.
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So I went, Well, you know, he's not afraid, and I probably shouldn't be afraid.
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And eventually I I um got curious and the being motioned over to me.
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Um, and when I got close enough, it placed its eyes over its hands over my eyes and said, Now you see.
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And I looked all around and I could see through what I would now describe as every dimension accessible.
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Uh, like there were angels, there were demons, there were beings of there were galactics, there were ascended masters everywhere.
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There were beings I've never even, I can't even describe to you now.
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Uh, things I I don't still don't know what they are.
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Um, and
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they were everywhere, like all at once.
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Um, and and then he touched my ears and said, now you hear.
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And the first thing I heard was angelic singing, what I now call source tones.
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I could hear a bunch of different, really beautiful vibrations coming from the beings.
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And that was explained to me later that that was uh the vibration, the source tones with um into which we were um born.
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And we can access them when we're born.
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We were born with a certain vibration given by angelics and source.
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So I heard that, and of course, as a musical child, I wanted to sing with them, and we spent a little bit of time doing that.
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Um, and that was great.
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I still do that to this very day.
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I still sing with beings if I hear tones like that.
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I still want to sing with them and duplicate the the songs.
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Um, and and then it put its hands over my heart and said, now you feel.
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And that was hard for me as a five-year-old.
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I remember feeling like, oh, I don't want to feel this much.
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I don't want to feel because I could feel um the clear love coming from the angels, but I could also feel like the the negative feelings of deceased loved ones around me and the positive feelings of them as well.
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I could feel the negative feelings of my parents and their thoughts, even while they were sleeping in bed and their fears.
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Um, but I could feel love from the ascended masters as well.
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So I had this whole hodgepodge of emotional things happening for, you know, a little five and a half year old.
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You know.
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So at that point, um, then it gave me a choice.
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I remember the being finally, I got curious enough to ask, what is your name?
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Uh and it said Raziel.
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And um, and I said, Well, Raziel, like what is this?
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And he said, Well, this the next step will tell you, but it's a it's a free will choice.
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It means you get to choose whether or not you want this next gift.
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Um, and he put his hand on my crown here and said, Um, if you choose, uh, you can get a cosmic knowledge.
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You can have access to all the knowledge that all these beings have as well, and anything universal or cosmic.
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And I didn't really understand what that meant.
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And he said, But I will tell you, it'll it'll be a painful choice to know.
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Whoa.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, Yeah, I'm five.
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And I'm like, um, yeah, sure.
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Don't really know what to say, don't know what that means.
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Um, and then I felt the pain of the knowingness, which I later discovered in my studies of um mystery schools and whatnot, um, that that was the pain of um free agency and knowledge given to us, that you know, and given to Adam and Eve, and many beings like them when the earth was um more five-dimensional, fifth-dimensional before we had duality and polarism and separation.
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Um, and then when we are given that gift of knowledge, then we can feel the pain of what separation feels like.
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So that was difficult.
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Um, in that moment, there was a lot going on, and then Raziel said, You have to choose uh two guides, and all these guides were around.
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Here's your council.
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That's the first time I'm at my council, um, my galactic counselor who still assists me to this day.
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And I didn't get to choose that.
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That was apparently a sole contract, so they chose me, and I I was introduced to all of them.
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And um, and then after that, he said, You get to choose two guides, one has to represent the the light, and the other one has to represent darkness.
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Um interesting.
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Yeah, so I chose two guys.
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Um, one you guys know of as Jesus or our Yeshua, and the other one is known as Helal.
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Yeah, and those are my two choices, and that's how it all began.
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And I remember not sleeping that night.
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I remember waking up in the morning going, Mom, an angel, I was in my door.
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And I was like, out of breath.
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I remember running to her and she's like pulling the covers off.
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I'm you have to wake up, you know, because I couldn't sleep.
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But as soon as the sun was up, you know, as soon as I knew it was time for her to get up, and time for me to get up, and time for dad to get up, I'm like, you don't believe what happened, you know.
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And I'm like, you have to wake up.
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And she's like, oh my goodness, come know what happened.
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I told her, and she was like, Okay, well, um, we we we probably should pray about this because like my family was super religious.
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So, you know, and I I feel like my
family was just thrown into this world of, you know, and she's like, I'm not sure it should have beckoned for you to come.
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And I'm like, Well, but I didn't feel evil, and I did pray about it, and Jesus was there too, and he said yes, and she was like, Whoa, whoa, wait, Jesus was there.
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We just had this conversation.
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And um, I'm quite sure she didn't know exactly what to do with all this, and and she sometimes still doesn't.
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Yeah, I mean, wow, how did you integrate that like throughout your life?
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And so that's like one of the questions.
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And the other question that's coming through is I would love to hear more about how Jesus and Halal work with you, like the light and the dark.
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Um, the dark was described to me um as a big misunderstanding, that it just meant the void, that it was just an abyss, that it was just like a womb of creation, that it wasn't necessarily evil, but that it there was no good or bad or right or wrong ascribed to it.
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Um, so the being that I chose actually represents a role that people deeply misunderstand.
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So that role is called the Satan, or people know it as Satan, but it's not a being.
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It's a role played by an archangel who chooses to fall from the kingdoms in order to guide us and give us free agency, not to cause problems, not to cause harm, but to give us uh a choice for free agency.
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And that that being um is Helal, or was it the time?
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Um, so I chose that being because I wanted to understand the mind, and he told me he could help me understand why people make uh payful choices and why we act the way we act and choose how we choose.
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I really wanted to understand that.
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Um and I wanted to understand creativity and duality.
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There were a lot of things that I didn't understand about being human, and he told me he could help me understand it, and I felt um really positive about also choosing, and I'm like, I will do this, but because religion teaches me that you're bad, I also have to choose Jesus to protect me from you just in case you're bad.
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I remember thinking that, just in case you're you're like the church says, but I found out along the way that this being is actually incredibly protective, um and incredibly loving towards humans, um, and that there are the many beings to play that role, not just hilarious.
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This is incredible because as we uh we learn to uh be with what is, whatever arises, uh we actually open ourselves up more to more of what we are.
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So if in that moment you had only chosen
the light, you'd be closing off half of the experience.
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Like here in the world of duality, there are both the polarities.
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So you spoke about um why we make painful choices or why we make the choices we make.
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Why do we?
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He has often described that as something called a soul contract.
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So at a higher level of ourself, the most mastered versions of ourself, we are multidimensional beings.
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We typically choose difficult things because they provide the most opportunity for spiritual expansion and growth.
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Yeah, that that makes sense because the contrast is so grand, like you feel it in your body, you go through the experience, and when you come out the other end of it, you feel such a difference.
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The other contrast.
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And if it's a tiny little contrast, you might not even notice the difference.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, I love this.
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Okay, so um lots of questions here about bi-location.
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When you by locate, I'm actually interested in your experience, like what do you experience physically, what happens to your like day-to-day mind, like and what happens to your awareness.
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Um, and yeah, if if if you could describe that to us, because there might be others who are watching and listening who also billocate, but they wouldn't know that that's what they're doing.
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Oh, they would know something's weird, they'd know it right away.
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Um, it starts out as just astral projection, where you could feel your body rising, like your light body rising and a part of you leaving, and that experience of falling through something, falling through yourself, and people feeling like they're they've hit the floor and then they look up and they're still in bed and they don't they wonder how they can be in the on the floor and in bed at the same time.
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People experience astral projection all the time during sleep paralysis and different things.
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Um, then you begin to travel.
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You begin to understand that uh either accidentally or intentionally, you can go somewhere with that live body.
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Now, typically, most people just go to places that they know uh until they feel safe.
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They they will be directed by the angelics and their guardians and their guides to kind of practice somewhere safe for them.
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Um, also, remote viewing happens.
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You have to be able to see and understand something without
actually experiencing it.
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Otherwise, um, if you didn't understand what that was, you could feel as if you were in danger.
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Even if you're not, you could feel as if you are.
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So you have to be able to um see what's going on from an observer's point of view, and that's called remote viewing.
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Um, and in those out-of-body experiences, they become more and more densified.
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And eventually you have, um, if you want to by-locate, it's it is a process in which you teach yourself to circumvent time.
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And when you stop believing that time is a real facet of life, when you understand that it's nothing but a distortion, you can work around time.
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Like for me, um, as an indigenous woman, I use ancient prayers.
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Um, I set my intention of the year I want to go to.
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Um, I figure out where I want to go.
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I'm very specific.
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I don't just randomly travel to places, although I used to in the beginning of my journey, and that did not turn out so well for me.
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Um terrible experiences at first.
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And this is why it's important that we treat the biolocation process as a sacred process.
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Yogus have been doing it for thousands of years, and they have taught their pupils and students to respect time and to respect the journey and to respect your bodies and to respect other people.
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When you um when you time travel, you have to respect other people because biolocation is time traveling essentially.
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You do learn how to densify your form so that you can eat and sleep and have a normal experience.
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And otherwise, you would show up as a light body.
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And if people saw you, they would think you were a spirit or some sort of entity or presence.
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It doesn't show up that way.
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Once you densify your form, um, you have to defragment.
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Let's go backwards.
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In order to circumvent time, you have to defragment your form, you have to separate components of your form.
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Um, and then you have to refragment or unify and put that form back together when you um land in whatever time, whether it be future or past, you you intend it to go to.
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Um, so there's a rejoining, a unification, and then you have this separate body.
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It's you, but it's a created version of your light body, it's a densified version of your light body projected into a different um time than yours.
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Then you have to learn to continue to circumvent time because you could be there for days, weeks, months, years even.
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And the longer you stay there, the more disconnected you become to your body, like say sitting right here in this chair in 2026.
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If I'm sleeping in my bed, which is most of the time when I do this work, um, or sitting in chair, um, I have to be able to speed down or slow down time and understand that it isn't real and that I can actually do that.
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I have to learn how to do that in that timeline.
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So I typically will um slow down one timeline and speed up another.
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And I do that because I don't want the time frames to be the same.
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I don't want to spend years over there and then people here um come to my room and say, why won't you get up?
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Are you comatose?
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Like if I'm sleeping, or why is she meditating and not waking up?
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Yogis used to do this.
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They used to meditate and meditate and not wake up, and people would wonder what they're doing.
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Chances are they were bilating and trying to figure out how to shift times so that they could get back.
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Because if they spent a year's worth of time um over there and they didn't know how to speed things up, they could actually also spend a year's worth of time doing nothing in their bodies in this timeline.
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So it takes a good bit to learn how to do that.
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Wow, how did you learn how to do this?
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Guides.
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Guides.
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I also had a yogi who's no longer with us teach me it as well.
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I had a living guide and um an entire council who have been working with me for a while on it.
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Well, it's incredible.
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Do you know?
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As you talk about it, I am feeling the energies in my body and feeling the expansion of it because everything is possible in a mind-made dream in this beautiful creative space where we are consciousness, God source, dreaming ourselves up in a reality.
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So of course we can.
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I feel I'm slowing down time, and then it really does.
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I just feel so present and nourished by the experience, and we're like, oh wow, like only half an hour's been, and we've done so much.
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It it's interesting.
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Like my understanding of time is that it's time is actually experiences in space.
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So all experiences exist in space right
here.
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So so you so when you bilocate, you're you're still right here, but you're in a different frequency, like a different realm, reality, is that right?
00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:29.119
It's like shifting the dial, you know, if you've if you envision an old radio, you know, um, and and just shifting it and moving it to where you no longer get static and you go towards a different channel, if you will.
00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.480
And you're right, um, time-space distortion is exactly what that is.
00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:38.720
And when you were describing um using your finger, that's a yogic process that's been going on for thousands of years.
00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:46.000
So, what you can do is also visualize the Fibonacci spiral, except you're looking down upon it.
00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:58.720
And there's the Fibonacci spiral of all your lifetimes and parallel, masterful versions of you throughout the time space distortion will be little dots on that matrixy web around that Fibonacci spiral somewhere.
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:00.240
So you get to pick one.
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.279
So, say you wanted to contact your future self.
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:10.880
You could using some make shift prayers from your guides or using your connection to portal magic, well, however, you want to do it.
00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.400
There are many ways to do this.
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:27.759
Um, you could go to that realm, and then once you're there, you could begin to work with that Fibonacci spiral in the same way, except looking down, find the dot in the center where everything began, and then go backwards.
00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:32.559
Backwards is slowing down, go backwards, right?
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:37.359
And speeding up is clockwise, right?
00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:40.240
This makes so much sense.
00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:43.519
I I can I can actually feel it and see it in my hand.
00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:54.880
Um Wow, okay, so by us connecting with like a future self.
00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:09.440
Is that like um Okay, so with the then we connect with the future self and we bring back like wisdom, codes, energies back into this present moment.
00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:18.640
Um does that then like change outcomes or timelines or like um change the soul purpose or soul contracts?
00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:26.319
Like what how how does how does it affect the the all and also like free will and all of that?
00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:28.319
Um free will cannot be circumvented.
00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.720
It is your greatest, most sovereign gift as a human.
00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.160
Um and even if we think we changed something, it was probably within our contracts to change those things.
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:41.440
Just to be like, oh, we had a dream that we changed this and that we changed it, and we changed our free will and circumvent.
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.000
No, that was in the contract too, right?
00:22:44.319
--> 00:22:46.079
You can't change your free agency.
00:22:46.240 --> 00:23:04.400
And everything that's in your contract is based upon your free agency, not of what your ego wants and what we think we want at that conscious level, but what the higher self, aka the soul wants that we predetermine before even coming here and being the personalities of Natalie and Pamela.
00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.960
So we cannot do that, but can we change things?
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.960
Yes, but we have preemptively decided that we're going to meet our future self and change things.
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:14.240
So what is really changing?
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It's just a little zigzag.
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:18.000
It's true.
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.559
So actually, both are true.
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:29.839
Um on the level of the soul, we've chosen our future and and so and it exists in the field of the eternal now.
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:37.519
And so, and actually, if we dissolve time, we're choosing it right now because there is no future.
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.359
It's like it's just a frequency dial that we're tuning into.
00:23:41.839 --> 00:24:03.279
So, yeah, so so basically our future is it is it already established as like a timeline or timelines, different possibilities based on our frequency of what we magnetize in, we'll experience, or is it is it just open to be explored?
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:05.440
Like how does this work?
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:11.839
Because the human mind rationalizes and generalizes every it generalizes everything.
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:19.680
Um, we tend to think that there would be one set future and one set goal in our soul contracts, but soul contracts are more complicated than that.
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:30.319
The only thing that the soul contract is doing is saying you want this particular growth and expansion and lesson and mastery by this year in the future.
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.279
The pathways that you choose to get there are the same.
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:38.160
So if you imagine are not the same, excuse me, um there that's where a free agency comes in.
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:47.200
So if you consider like a bullseye and you are in target practice and you've got your arrow and you're pulling back and you're like, I just want to get to that bullseye, right?
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:55.680
Um, it doesn't matter what you do, that arrow is gonna end up somewhere close to that bullseye eventually.
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.680
Now, is it gonna be maybe?
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:07.440
You know, is it gonna be, okay, I did that and I didn't really get there the first time, so I'm gonna try it again in another lifetime?
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.599
Maybe, but it's gonna get there.
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:18.240
Is it gonna be, okay, um, I pulled back the arrow and it went way over here, bounced off a nearby tree.
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.119
Um, another person found it on the ground 10 years
later, picked it up, and put it on the same bullseye.
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:23.759
Maybe.
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:29.759
We don't get to know really what that's going to look like because time is a creative construct.
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:30.880
It is so malleable.
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:32.559
It's it's not very formative.
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:39.920
Um, that's a part of our free agency to decide what the pathways look like towards that bullseye.
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.000
I love that.
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:54.559
And there are multiple choices, multiple pathways, multiple timelines, multiple um aspects of ourselves and parallel worlds uh working with us and giving us reminders of our divine blueprint all the time.
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:59.839
Um, so if we kind of get a little bit off track, right, are we really?
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:07.279
Or are we just experiencing something for a little while and then other masterful versions of ourselves in the world are going to find us and guide us back towards the path?
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:28.000
Okay, so if I have a choice and I decide to go left down this path instead of the other choices, are there other versions of me that take the other, like are there parallel Natalie's that doing all the different choices at the same time?
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:29.359
Yeah.
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.599
So every time I have a choice, both choices are lived.
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.680
Oh my gosh, this is mind-blowing.
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:49.279
Yeah, another version of you who already exists in a parallel dimensional experiencing, um, and experiencing perhaps a different density level, obviously, um, to be able to choose something different than you.
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:57.119
Um, but then they go, oh yeah, I remember the soul contract, you do this, and then I do the opposite of that, you do this, and I am almost there.
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.599
You have this experience, and I have the opposite of that.
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.319
That's all pre-programmed and preconditioned and pre-chosed.
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:03.920
That's a pre-birth intention.
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:05.279
That's chosen.
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:06.880
Do you know?
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.880
Sometimes I ask myself this question and I feel stuff go on with my brain.
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.559
I I kind of love doing this.
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:24.319
Um I I ask myself, um, how come my consciousness is solely focused on Natalie?
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:31.039
Because if I've got all of my parallel Natalie's, like, how come I'm just keep focusing on this one?
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.839
Um, because that's what you contricted to do.
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:40.640
If we were always focused on all of our um masterful selves in other times, we wouldn't actually center in.
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.200
We would just experience a spiritual schizophrenia.
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.039
We would go into a full mind separation and then we couldn't function.
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.480
So we need to center in in order to have a healthy, masterful well-being.
00:27:53.680 --> 00:28:03.920
I feel like at the end of this lifetime, I meet all the other Natalies that went off on all the other journeys, and we just come back together and in and like we gathered all the experiences.
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:16.000
This is probably why people sometimes like will go to an area and they'll feel the energy because probably the other version of them is like already been there, or like, um you know a deja vu?
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:20.799
I often have it with my sister-in-law, and she's like, she's like, You're having one again.
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.200
I was like, it only happens with you.
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:34.880
So I kind of sometimes feel like I wonder if our souls are like part of a soul essence or family or a frequency that like is doing things in other realms.
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:36.880
Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:46.480
Um, and what we think is the past, an another version of us is experiencing that in their timeline, and it's all happening concurrently.
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.160
Because the past is um a part of separation.
00:28:51.440 --> 00:29:06.319
Do you know what I've noticed like um like in the spirit in our spiritual bubble, uh that some people are uh concerned about if we focus our energy too much on the future?
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:26.240
So for me personally, I just want you to know that I've gotten to a place of um everything is all is welcome, all is part of the experience, like as far out as we can imagine, as far out as we can create, like why limit ourselves that there's only that belief is true and that one's not like it's all just beliefs anyway.
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:32.240
So um, so for me, it's like what feels true in my body, and I just flow with that.
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.559
Um, and it changes moment by moment.
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.400
So I don't really have anything concrete, so I got zero opinion.
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.319
Um, but I'm just noticing it.
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:48.160
I'm like, oh, and then some people in my community will say, Well, you shouldn't get too consumed about the future.
00:29:48.240 --> 00:30:06.000
Or they're saying don't get too consumed about angels or guides are like giving you energy out, and then some people are saying, Well, look, the only spiritual way is just be present, and there's just so many different facets and ways, and and what I sense is is what is your heart desire to experience next?
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.880
Because all is welcome in a mind-made dream.
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.039
Uh, what do you feel about this?
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:13.839
About what component of it?
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:27.359
Like about um sending our energy to other dimensions or futures or connecting or like giving our power away to our angels or our guides and and
and that kind of a thing.
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.440
What what do you feel about it?
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.039
Um, it's really circumstantial.
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:49.599
I feel like if a person is meant to experience that feeling of bringing duality and polarism into their spiritual experience, that is another opportunity for uh some expansion module, some unique earth school lesson that they're going through.
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.920
Um would there be an easier way around it that would be perhaps less painful?
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:57.200
Absolutely.
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.160
Um, because it's interesting.
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:10.799
For instance, we um, or I rather, I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I experienced a lot of powerlessness in the construct of religion growing up.
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:18.000
We grew up Southern Baptist, and the idea of everything that we're doing now made a lot of my relatives say, you're going to hell, straight to hell.
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.079
I do not collect go oh$200, do not go past go.
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.759
Like it's a monopoly game over here.
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.400
Stay in jail, you go into the jail that's called hell.
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.240
Um, and and like in that belief system, it can be so strong.
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:37.279
So powerlessness is an especially strong core construct and the collective belief system of humanity.
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:43.759
And we tend to take that powerlessness that's conditioned into us from religion straight over into spirituality.
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:50.640
And then we wonder why it feels bad and why it feels powerless, but we're doing the same thing we did before we woke up, right?
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:57.759
So it's important to just really know thyself is one of the first decrees given by my counsel and by the ascended masters who work with me.
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:10.480
They're like, you gotta know yourself and you gotta know when you're doing it again, when you're doing the separation thing again, um, and creating duality and separation in a whole other realm that you think is so much better and clearer.
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:22.480
So, what was taught to me at an early age is to understand that guys, angelics, deities are all aspects of the greater source and us.
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.559
We're all parts of a whole.
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:37.119
You know, for anyone who's read the Caballion at the very beginning of some of um these beautiful books, like the Cabalion, it says um the all is in the one, and the one is in the all.
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.640
And the student who understands this is well on their way to enlightenment.
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:48.880
We see statements like that everywhere in the great mystical spiritual texts, the ancient text, the Dead Sea Scrolls.
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:51.200
We see this teaching everywhere.
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:57.359
So the more we give power to the angelics and spirit guys, and the less we really understand about oneness.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.880
But why would we be doing that?
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.480
Well, because we have a belief that we feel helpless and powerless.
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:03.759
So we learn from that.
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.039
It's not that it's good or bad, we're learning from that, right?
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:17.440
Granted, the council has often told me it would be important as a mystic and as a teacher to explain to people that those angelics are a part of their most mastered selves.
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.640
They are you, that those deities ultimately another mastered version of you.
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:31.359
Um, what you think is demon, that might be sad to you, but it is an aspect of you that's acting out and trying to get your attention and love and integration.
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.119
All those beings are aspects of the whole.
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:40.400
Cosmic source breathed life into all of us at the same time.
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:48.559
Cosmic source had a loving thought, and suddenly light went in all directions, and boom, there we are.
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.680
All of us.
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.079
Not at the beginning, not at the middle, not at the end, at the same time.
00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:05.839
All of these beautiful divisions of source happened, and we are all the same because source doesn't make mistakes and source doesn't divide and say, oh, you know, you guys are a little bit better than this one.
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:17.199
So let's create a hierarchy of humans at the bottom or maybe insects below that, and that that entire thing that you're conditioned and taught in religion and education is false.
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.320
Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:44.320
So all right, when when you are communicating um with humans in the future, have you you learned something recently that's kind of like blown your mind and like expanded your perspective?
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:48.320
And um yeah, that just that's just coming in strongly.
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:55.519
Uh that it feels like there's something that you're currently learning or sharing that you could share with us here.
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:00.239
There's not a lot that blows my mind anymore these days, Natalie.
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.320
I can say that I've seen positive things that give me hope.
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:08.880
A lot of hope.
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:16.800
I see a powerful world coming for us that we begin to come together, unify, connect with each other, and create.
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.079
You know, I see that disclosure doesn't look exactly like people are saying that it could be.
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:34.960
Um, I feel that we are going to have benevolent experiences with extraterrestrials that calls for more unification of different religions and more periods of acceptance and more
understanding of source.
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:42.800
I don't feel that, for instance, um, cosmic disclosure and the arrival of exterrestrials on our planet.
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:50.880
Um, well, they're already here, but the the more public arrival would be something that causes mass chaos.
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.880
It actually causes mass love.
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:59.360
Um, so not that I'm surprised by it, but I'm just um absolutely enamored by it.
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.719
I'm excited, I'm um emboldened and um passionate about the future.
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:11.519
I'm a futurist for a reason because I know that we're going in a great place and I see beautiful things happening.
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:27.519
So when when you're picking up um these uh timelines or these energies in the future, are you like by locating and picking up the information and seeing it?
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:32.719
And is it based off our current frequency as a collective?
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.880
Um okay.
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:43.280
And and if we change our current frequency as a collective, then the potential of the future is going to be a different timeline.
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.280
Absolutely, and it's happening all the time.
00:36:45.440 --> 00:37:04.320
That's why I tell people don't use um these bi-location um events and and sessions with me or anyone um to predict because no one can fully accurately predict anymore because we are becoming so masterful that we're shifting our free agency individually and collectively so often.
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:06.960
And that's why predictions are also changing as well.
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.320
It's not so set and sewn as it used to be, where someone could predict something collectively and have it come true.
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:21.519
Not that we don't, but there are several shifts and variations along the way, and the timing of something could be different, or the prediction itself could completely change.
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:29.599
So don't use um the biolocation journeys as anything predictive for sure, because it's just another potential, it's just another timeline.
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:44.159
Um, and it does tell us if, say, we are a little bit off track, it does tell us, hey, you know, this kind of went a little wonky and and then this is how we corrected it, and that went well, and then went a little wonky, and this is how, and this is why, and this is how we corrected it.
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.679
It it gives us um preparation, financial preparation, practical preparation.
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:59.519
Um, it gives us emotional preparation, spiritual preparation, so that we're not absolutely shocked when some of these things happen and these big events occur.
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:00.000
Yeah.
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:27.039
It helps our nervous system because I find like if I if I know I've got something big coming up and I kind of go through it in my own mind and I
digest it in my body, then when I get to that event, then I'm already, I can really be present in it because I've run through it a free few times in my body, so it doesn't have to be um nervous or whatever uh energies could be running through it.
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.079
It can actually be settled and present even deeper.
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:48.320
So, so I feel like um would you be happy to by locate and meet someone in the future and share what one possible or two or whatever you pick up and timelines based off our current frequency are available?
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:49.199
Yeah.
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.639
Um, is there a year that you feel led to go to?
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:56.000
I'm loving the number four, the heart chakra.
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.679
What does this feel like for you?
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.360
2044?
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.400
Does that feel close enough?
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.119
Amazing.
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:04.880
Close enough for us to understand.
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:10.800
Now, Krady, I will tell you, um, we're on a threshold, we're in a threshold period.
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:21.599
So, what that means is uh the best way I could describe it is do you remember, you know, you and I are are in the same era in our age groups.
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:32.320
And do you remember back in the time when um we were just going from like Commodore computers and organ trail and these big massive boxy computers?
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:44.320
And then um and and one day we woke up and there was this this access to something called the interwebs, and and it and it just kind of just seemed to happen.
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:49.920
I'm sure there were all sorts of coders and developers and people around the world trying to figure out how to make this happen.
00:39:50.320 --> 00:40:03.840
But to us in the realm of experiencers and consumers, we just woke up and there was AOL direct and we had that little daddy sound and we had to wait to connect with the DSL dialogue and all this stuff.
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.599
Um, and we were just fascinated.
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:16.320
It seemed like it just happened overnight, and we were like, and then computers started to become less boxy and more flat like they are now, and and um so many things seemed to happen at the same time.
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.519
I remember um the threat and that's the threshold period.
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:36.400
I remember going from these um box when I graduated in 1994 from high school, and I remember, like my boyfriend at the time had this, you know, you know, you'd have to have a wealthy family to get these cell phones, but he had these boxy looking phones and and antenna that he pulled up and all this weird stuff.
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:44.880
And and you know, and in and he and we would call people with it and stuff, and we were like, we have a cell phone, blah, blah, blah.
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:48.400
Um, we call in the
rest of the people with the landlines and all this stuff.
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.760
And he's like, but don't use it too much because it's super expensive, you know?
00:40:52.000 --> 00:41:00.159
And um, and then one day in a threshold year, that phone became something that was like tiny and you just open it and close it.
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:08.400
We had the BlackBerry flip phones and and and the little things, and we're like, gosh, this is awkward, but we can type just like just like the computers, you know.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:15.360
Um, and then one day there were smartphones flat, everything there, interwebs on the phone, and we're like, what?
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.079
Threshold year, threshold year.
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.960
So the manifestation of a lot is coming.
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:26.320
So we have we pass seven threshold years between now and 2045, is what I've observed.
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:27.199
Seven.
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:28.159
Whoa.
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.719
So so a lot of people my hair is on end.
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:32.159
Right, right.
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.199
So you can imagine how we felt like like like in the threshold years when we got these new technologies.
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:59.840
Um, and and you're some of the things that you may discover in 2045, depending upon the questions you're about to ask me, will blow your mind because, well, maybe not you, because you're very intuitive and connected, but um, it will blow most people's minds in the 3D world because I remember the same feeling of, you know, I had dreams that this was coming, but my mom was freaked out.
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.880
She was like, the interwebs, I don't know, I don't know.
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:08.079
Like my grandparents were like, Oh, smartphones, that looks like something else to do, you know.
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.719
Um, and some people weren't so thrilled about it and they couldn't even imagine.
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:19.199
Like, I couldn't have gone to them, you know, in the threshold year and say, hey, smartphones are coming.
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:26.719
You know, hey, you know, real phones that don't plug into your home are coming and you can carry them around with you.
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:28.000
I couldn't have told anyone that.
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:32.880
So the things that you are about to learn, we couldn't have imagined what happened.
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:34.719
It'll be that same feeling.
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:36.400
Oh, I love it.
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.639
Yeah, yes.
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.239
I hope you have a bunch of questions.
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.320
I'm gonna let you meet a friend of mine.
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.800
Um, she is one of my favorite humans from the future.
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:45.760
I work with her all the time.
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.760
Her name is Maya, and um, Maya is a cultural anthropologist and a sociologist.
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.199
Uh, she's from Vietnam.
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.880
Uh, she went to NYU.
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:56.639
She's amazing.
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.159
Um, and we are friends in present-day time as well.
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.400
I found her in her her car.
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:05.760
She finally got a car.
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.119
She was like, no one in New York City needs a car.
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:18.159
Because they have these um flying Uber like things now, and public transport has changed.
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:23.440
So no one really wants to use their cars.
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:34.320
Some do, but I I feel like I I just landed right in one of those um flying vehicles that are used for public transport.
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:43.920
And it's autopilot, and she's in there by herself trying to get from um her university to home.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.719
You can ask her anything you want now.
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:53.760
My thank you that we can spend this time together and connect.
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.679
I'm fascinated what it's like in 2044.
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:06.719
I mean, while I can really um sense and I can energetically feel myself in in the car.
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:14.800
Um could you describe, like, are there um so so cars have changed?
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:26.719
Are there any other um transports that are new compared to us in 2026 modes of transport that are new and different?
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:45.679
Um, she says that all the Ubers and Lyfts are these hovercraft type cars that fly on their own invisible system, guided through their own like a GNSS navigation system, um, similar to the way that planes operate with GNSS.
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:56.239
Um it's very, very similar to that, but we also have um like subways that do that, buses that do that.
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:03.760
Um everything is hovercraft or a flying vehicular public um vehicle.
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:04.239
Yeah.
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:16.719
Can we as humans, are there any humans that can actually um physically full on get their body to fly?
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:26.000
Um there are recreational devices that you can use.
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:53.599
She's um describing this as like right now, you have something similar to that, these jet packs that you use in um on lakes, and that you put them on like a backpack, and um there's something that comes up as well, and you have your your feet are gathered on this board, and and then it jets of water stream down and and propel you up into the air, and you have to balance it's similar to that, except not in water, obviously.
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:55.280
It doesn't require water.
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:57.440
Oh, fun.
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.880
Use this uh plasma nuclear type of energy.
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:04.880
Oh wow, yeah.
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:06.400
It's very powerful.
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.400
What else are we doing with plasma in in 2044?
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:20.639
Um, we use a lot utilize plasma energy in medical imaging and certain medical devices as well, she says.
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.559
We use more plasma energy.
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.000
Um there there is a um it's kind of on the brink.
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.760
Um people are have created a plane from plasma energy as well.
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.559
And it's in testing.
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.800
They're not using it, but it's in testing.
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:50.880
And does cancer still exist or has the human um experience completed its journey with cancer?
00:47:52.000 --> 00:48:03.199
It does still exist in 2044, um, but there are many types of cancers and diseases and disorders um which can be cured.
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:14.480
Some can be eliminated through the process of epigenetics before you're even born, um, and others are eliminated by the use of peptide treatments.
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.000
Wow.
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.760
Are we a healthier race?
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:28.239
Are we like with our food and um growing crops and like has it gotten healthier?
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.519
She said we do mostly grow our own food.
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.320
We've had a lot of natural disasters, unfortunately.
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:41.599
She says that, and because of that, we've created more uh food co-ops and we work together to support local farmers.
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.360
Almost every person will grow their own food.
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:51.760
We have ways of growing our own food, whether we live in the city or whether we live in suburbia or rural.
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.519
We have different means of food growth that you don't have now that make it easier.
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:06.639
So, in that way, we trade, we barter food, um, we barter clean water as well, um, with different services that that we need.
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:17.440
Uh, barter and trade is becoming um a fairly essential exchange because people have gone through a lot of economic turmoil and we are attempting to recover from that economic turmoil.
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.599
So the use of barter and trade, especially in food, is pretty prominent.
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.639
Is money still around?
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:25.440
Yes.
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:36.320
Um and there must be like new ways of um oh yeah, people earning money.
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:53.039
Like, are people um remembering to trust their hearts that they've come to earth to live their sole purpose, which is in their hearts, rather than that what we've had a lot in the past is where we've felt like we have to work to earn money?
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:54.880
Has has that shifted?
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:03.119
In a sense, money is one exchange of abundance, it's one format.
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:13.519
People now understand that they could choose that, or they could choose to earn money through doing something that they absolutely love that would be more heart-centered for sure.
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.519
Um, they could also choose to make money by barter and trade.
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:24.960
And to some choose to not have any access to money at all, and they live completely off-grid and they are homesteaders.
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.960
Um, so you have a variety of people doing a variety of things.
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:35.360
You have some that are just as attached to the greed and capitalism that are that you could imagine exist today.
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.400
You have some of that existing in 2045 as well.
00:50:38.639 --> 00:51:05.360
Remember that we live in a multidimensional world, and many people are still experiencing um some of their pains and suffering points surrounding money, but many people, just as many people are not experiencing that and are experiencing um having jobs that they love, careers that they love, um, having more automated ways to make money, and some people who don't care that much about having a lot, but they care about giving and they care about bartering and exchanging.
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.480
Is there more love on earth and in people's hearts?
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:26.559
She says, I would say so, because we've gone through so much that we've had no choice but to connect and get to know our local environments and our neighbors and people who we would typically avoid because we're just in your timeline.
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:33.360
I remember being just trying to survive and trying to get by, and that mentality is a lot less now.
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.760
What what happened?
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.880
Because you said that that humanity's been through quite a bit.
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.280
Can you share some of that?
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:56.159
We've been through a lot of war, both proxy war, drone wars, um, war wars over money, missile wars um just aren't really a thing anymore.
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:59.679
Um, we've been through a lot of natural disasters.
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.800
The environment has changed a lot, and we had to recover.
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.079
We had to recover with our our homes and properties and lands and food and crop.
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:22.480
And um it took a lot, and we could not do that by just rolling up our uh our red carpet and pulling into the garage and letting the garage door close and saying, well, you know, everybody else can find for themselves.
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.559
That's that's a 2026 and 27 mentality.
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.800
By 2030, you have to have a different mentality.
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:36.639
So many things have happened, including, you know, disclosure and ET contacts are more prominent.
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:48.079
People understand ETs walk amongst us and we know who they are, we know what they're about, and we understand um a lot about our fellow galactic star systems and neighbors.
00:52:48.320 -->
00:52:53.519
These are things that no one can even imagine right now unless they're deeply connected to the divine.
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:55.760
But that will happen.
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:07.920
Now, our ET friends, are they um are they coming in like uh the higher frequency like they are now in 2026?
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:12.639
Um, or are they coming in in a physical form?
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:14.639
Some are.
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:21.679
Some are coming in the form of technologies and crafts and different technological gifts, different technological advancements that they give to us.
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:28.239
Some come and then leave and then leave their gifts that help us, particularly with our bodies and health of our minds.
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:34.880
Um, some come and stay for a while and help deconstruct our governmental and political systems.
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:45.440
Some come and help with different technologies involving the growth of crops, particularly when you have environmental disasters, you want help with growing your crops and tending to your animals.
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:57.119
Some come with answers that help us get away from industrialized farming and industrialized agriculture so that our land isn't just a giant dust bowl that's waiting on Mother Nature to desecrate it.
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.480
Um, we had to change a lot of those things.
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:01.360
And E.T.
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:02.960
helped with that.
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.599
Oh, wonderful.
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.199
And and has the school schooling changed?
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:18.159
Like, are the children um do they still have to learn some of the boring old topics that I had to learn when I was at school?
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.199
Or is there more creativity and freedom?
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:27.039
And um, like each child is recognized for their unique gifts and supported?
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:37.519
In many areas of the world, not just the US, a new system has been adopted based upon a child's unique individual learning style.
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:43.840
So there are tests that are given before you even enter kindergarten or primary school.
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.719
There are tests given again, you know, in middle school.
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:54.480
There are tests given again in secondary school or high school, there are tests given again before you enter university if you choose to be in university.
00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:07.360
Um, these tests garner your changes in your personality, your changes in your developing gifts and talents, your changes in your academic structure and what you seem to be gravitating towards and what you seem to struggle with.
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:16.800
Um, and they find a child's latent abilities and they foster them and create unique individual programs based upon that child.
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:18.800
Oh, that's brilliant.
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:23.119
That gives a lot of freedom and self-expression.
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:28.159
Um as humans happy.
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.639
Humans will always find something to be unhappy about.
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.639
So I can't say that the majority of the world is happy or unhappy.
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.519
You have a good mix of everything as you do now.
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:51.840
And what is like one of the like major differences between 2026 and 2044?
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:58.239
Um, the access to free health care is a big difference.
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.039
You can afford to get treatments that you need.
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:09.119
You have more accessibility to certain realms of healing medicines coming into the allopathic realm and covered by your insurance plans.
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.599
You have affordable, if not all free, insurance plans.
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.440
You have options.
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.880
Naturopathic doctors are covered.
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:30.719
If you were to go to a Chinese medicine doctor and your acupuncture and acupuncture, it's covered by your health insurance plan, which is affordable or free, depending upon your circumstances.
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.400
Those are all beautiful things that give hope.
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.079
Elder care is different.
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:47.360
You know, if you absolutely have to put your parents or grandparents in a nursing facility, you can rest assured that they're going to be taken care of and treated respectfully and with love.
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:58.000
So it feels like a lot of areas there's more community and love.
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.599
But there's definitely more community, yes.
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:03.039
Sometimes more love.
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.760
It depends upon the people and the area of the world.
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:06.719
Okay.
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:08.639
Wow.
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.599
Do we do we feel free or are the government like what's happening with the governments?
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.719
Well, something you never thought would happen.
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.360
We don't just stick to a two-party system.
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.199
It has changed by now.
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.760
We had a three-party system, now we have a four-party system.
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:33.679
We're growing, we're honoring different people's ideas of what politics should look like now.
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:36.400
Oh, that's wonderful.
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.519
Wow, so that does feel like expansion.
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:44.400
Is there anything else you want to share with us before we say goodbye?
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.199
I just want everyone to know that I'm proud of how hard you work to get to where I am today.
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:56.639
You're building a beautiful earth for your children and your grandchildren and their grandchildren's children.
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.079
And
it's all worth it.
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.679
We are in a peaceful space now, and it's because of your hard work today.
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.760
Oh, no apologies.
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.480
For us, thank you.
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:53.360
And all my limbs are like rice crispy treaty, like snap, crackle pop right now.
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.519
Wow, like does it take a toll on your body?
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.039
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.159
You have to keep yourself healthy to be able to do it.
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.239
Thank you so much, Pamela, and thank you, Mai.
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:10.719
And this has been so special.
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:24.880
Um, I I would love for you to um to share about the channel panel that you were part of because I'm really excited for people to be able to join and have that experience.
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.079
Yeah, that is uh the 13th, 14th, and 15th of November.
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.480
Um, you can go to thechannelpanel.com to get that.
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.400
Um, there are some beautiful channels coming there that weekend.
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:45.920
Um, I will be um talking about how to contact your future self in my workshop.
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:47.119
You're welcome to join in.
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:48.239
I would love to do that.
00:59:48.400 --> 01:00:02.559
And we're also going to talk about how to find your unique way to experience contact and to create what the council calls a calling so that you make sure that whatever you experience is uh loving and safe and beautiful and expensive for you.
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:10.880
So people need to learn to find their unique calling and way of contact so that you can actually have some sovereignty in the way that that happens.
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:12.719
So I love to teach about these things.
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:14.960
You'll get that in my workshop.
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:20.000
Um, so you can get your tickets there or you can live stream it if you can't travel to West Palm Beach, Florida.
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.320
I get it, but it is a very beautiful area and I'd love to see you guys and get a hug.
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:25.440
I'm a hugger.
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:31.920
Um so I'll have a little booth there set up uh to meet and greet people and hug and talk.
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.639
So um can't wait to do that for you.
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:35.760
It's gonna be exciting.
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.079
Again, that one is at the thechannelpanel.com.
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:40.079
You can live stream or show up in person.
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:42.000
Oh, wonderful.
01:00:42.239 --> 01:01:01.760
Well, I I can't make it to there because I'm actually gonna be in Costa Rica running a retreat, but anyone who can go, I I can feel the energy, you know, being around anyone who channels uh because I'm so sensitive, I just afterwards I'm like, whoa, this is so I feel it in the cells of
my body.
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:07.119
It's so yeah, yeah, it's it's really special.
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:11.920
Uh, are you gonna be in um in so next year?
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:23.199
I'm doing the conscious life expo in February and the New Living Expo in April, and there's also the Sedona Ascension Retreat some three times in America.
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:24.719
Are you at any of them?
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:26.239
Uh I don't know yet.
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:28.559
I haven't really made that decision just yet.
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:33.519
There's a lot going on in our family, so we're just kind of like trying to have a year of settling.
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:39.119
And I know that we will be um um in the mountain, north North Carolina.
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:45.519
Uh so if you I think it's the Judah Channel or the um Angie Hippels, the Judah Channel, I think.
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:54.960
Um I'm gonna be there in June with her uh and um a couple other Julie Julie Rysler, I think, and a couple of other really beautiful channels there.
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:55.920
Where is that?
01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:56.719
Where's that event?
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:58.880
It's gonna be in the mountains of North Carolina.
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:00.559
North Carolina, awesome.
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:01.039
Yeah.
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.119
Oh, it's so great that we are having these events and coming in person together.
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:11.440
The online is fantastic, but it's just it's nice to have the different elements.
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.719
Like we're in bodies, so it's also nice to have the like, yeah, that's it.
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:15.599
I love in person.
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.079
I absolutely love in-person events.
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:18.880
Yeah.
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:26.000
Also, I was so excited when when I was reading that you've you're offering a gift to my community.
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:28.400
Could you please share about what it is?
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:40.159
Yeah, so you can get 25% off with code Natalie Namaste, all one word, um, of anything off my website that you see that you take a fancy towards.
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.119
Um, I'm not sure how long my team is gonna have that on.
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:47.119
I have no idea, but I'll ask them and get get back with you, Natalie.
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.400
But um, but right now is for sure active for you.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.079
Thank you so much.
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:53.039
Wonderful.
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:56.159
So everyone go and grab your gifts.
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:59.519
Um, all the links are below in the show notes.
01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:01.199
And talk to your future self.
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.639
Like we have the a 15-minute session called Meet Your Future Self.
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:06.719
I highly advise that one.
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.800
Meet your future self.
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:09.199
Yeah.
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.360
And then oh, that's awesome.
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:20.000
So then once you meet your future self and you you'll get like what direct messages and guidance, and then you come back and you can integrate it.
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:36.480
And do you notice like like shifts in your in reality quite quickly after I do, I do like I um I talk to my future self a lot, pretty much every day, because I'm nosy and I really want to manifest a future that feels good.
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:44.639
So I remember speaking to her very recently, and she showed me a timeline that was really fast for something that I wanted.
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:49.760
And I went, that can't be, because when I asked my counsel, they said a year.
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.960
She was like, Yeah, that was your old timeline.
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And and now it's very different.
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And I went, Oh, what did I do differently?
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And she was like, Um, uh you just made a different conscious choice.
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And it was something crazy.
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It's like it's like an entire life change circumstances type situation that nobody could do in the short amount of time.
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And now she says, Oh, maybe about a month and a half.
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I'm like, how did that happen?
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Because I just talked to them like two days ago, and Kelso said a year, and she's like, Yeah, that was true two days ago.
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It has changed now.
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Because of your conscious free will and your intention and the power of that vibration, uh, something is more powerful than the year-long timeframe for it.
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And I just went, that blew my mind because it isn't something that I could even envision would take only a month and a half.
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Like I genuinely believed that it would take a year, which is probably why the council said it would take a year, like that's where my belief system was.
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And then I just started to wonder.
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I just started, well, well, what if it could be sooner?
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What if it could be this year?
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What if, what if, and my mind would come in and try, well, that's not possible because this and that and that.
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And I would breathe through it and try to create a different visual.
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Um and and then like two days later, I I got word that it's gonna be a lot sooner.
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And I went, oh my gosh.
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So I'll get back with you.
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I'll let you know if it really is gonna be in a month and a half and a half.
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It's still so exciting.
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You
know, as you talk about it, you've just raised the frequency because I can hear the frequency, it's gone higher.
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Um yeah, and I all of a sudden saw so I'm just like seeing and feeling myself like on my death, but like it's my time to die, like my future self at the time to die.
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And I've just increased my time on earth.
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So in the past, I was gonna die at 84 years old.
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Now I'm seeing like I'm in the 90s, and I seem quite healthy and like super loving.
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Like, oh, I just want to cry every time I connect with my future self because I'm just like even more loving than I am right now.
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And and that's all that's all that's really in the deepest part of my heart is to be more and more loved.
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So it seems like I do it.
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So I'm just so happy.
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Wow.
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I'm just crying tears of love.
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It feels so hard expansive to just be on earth and be love.
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This is it.
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Well, for me, this is this is why I'm and that's why I want everyone to be able to contact their future self.
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I want people to learn how to as travel, remote view, and bi-locate properly.
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Um, I always I have a theme that council says is is a bit of a guideline, it's called SSS.
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Um, sacred, simple, and safe.
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So when we keep things sacred, simple, and safe, um, we can make that process pretty simple.
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Um, so I I want this this to be shared with everyone.
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I don't want anyone to think I'm special just because I'm trained to do it.
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Um, I feel like everyone can do it.
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And um, Mai has explained to me that in 2045, many people do it.
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So awesome.
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And that's probably because your soul desire is so strong to support others and like you're leading.
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Maybe you'll even teach others how to teach, like you grow, grow, grow so that more and more people can experience this.
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I I do want that.
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I would love for that to be um uh happening, um, to leave that as a gift, you know, when I depart this world, that you know, millions of people would learn how to how to contact their future selves and change dramatically difficult things that they're experiencing now, because that's what I do daily, and I really firmly believe that anyone can.
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Thank you.
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You are so lovely.
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I've loved spending this time with you.
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I could I could spend hours with you.
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You you're just so, so lovely.
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Um well and I if there's any last words you want to share, you're welcome, and then we'll close off.
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Again, just remember that you have a beautiful future.
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I know it looks like the world is chaotic and falling apart, and some people would argue with this sentiment and say, well, we're in the worst place that we've ever been in.
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No, look back at the Great Depression.
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Look back at some of human history.
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We are actually expansive.
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We've actually come a very long way.
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And our future selves are very proud of us for breaking through these confines and restrictions and making changes that are going to be absolutely unbelievable by 2044.
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So be proud.
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We have come a long way.
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We have.
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Thank you so much.
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There's so much to be proud of, and so much to look forward to as well.
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So, everyone who's been listening and watching, beautiful community.
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I love you and I appreciate you.
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And whatever you feel like sharing, you know, I always love you to write in the chat and share your wisdom with us as well.
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So, from Pamela and I, Namaste.