Full Transcript for Cosmic Disclosure with Chancellor Victoria

00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.920 acknowledge our amazing admin, Colleen while we're talking about getting 37 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.040 started here on the show. So thank you Colleen for 38 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:10.000 everything you do tonight. I'm really excited about our guests 39 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.000 that we have on the air. We have been attending 40 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.439 Michelle and I have been attending Contact in the Desert 41 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.199 over many years, Michelle many more years than I have, 42 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.560 and there's always this very interesting group of people that 43 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.199 look sort of military they look I always assume like 44 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.400 is that Navy people. I mean, it's a very classy 45 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:32.759 looking uniform, and they are sitting around, they're kind of 46 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.120 moving through the event. And Michelle or someone had it like, 47 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.719 let's talk to those people, and I'm like, yeah, let's 48 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.560 I see them every year. So welcome to the show. 49 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:45.560 Well, thank you so much. I appreciate it. 50 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.560 And you know, I was you have a very interesting 51 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:53.280 website that I started going through. But and it looks 52 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.840 like a charter if that's the best word to call 53 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:01.199 it of something that in other in other fields might 54 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.360 be called an intentional community, like the groundwork for setting 55 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.360 up an intentional community. Some people say, oh, that used 56 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.759 to be a commune, and I can tell that this 57 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.840 is nothing like that. But would you call this what 58 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.439 you're trying to develop an intentional community of sorts? 59 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.280 Yes, what we're trying to do is, you know, get 60 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:25.400 into the greater cosmic communities. And in order to do that, 61 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:29.120 it requires us to be unified in a lot of 62 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.759 different ways. And so this is where we've come is 63 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:37.560 that we need to mirror sort of their platforming and 64 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:41.599 you know, their belief systems and you know, there's just 65 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.719 a lot to it to be a community of that sort. 66 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:48.000 And on Earth, while we have many different types of 67 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:53.039 social structures and communities, they really are not up to 68 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.759 the task. And this is all about the consciousness and 69 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.560 the frequency for them. So this is what we're trying 70 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:04.039 to do, is unify at that level and become a 71 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.599 more cohesive community that can actually integrate with them. 72 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.199 Gotcha, So let's speak of cohesive. So our listeners probably 73 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.639 don't understand that we're talking about when you say a 74 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:20.360 cosmic community of sort of creating an Earth based group 75 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.800 of people that are prepared and of the right frame 76 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:28.759 of mind to if disclosure happens, or if extraterrestrials were 77 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.079 to land on the White House lawn tomorrow, we would 78 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.959 have a group of emissaries that would be sort of 79 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.680 in your mind, I'm guessing prepared for the best foot forward, 80 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.639 a handshake instead of pointing a gun at whoever shows up. 81 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:43.720 Is that correct? 82 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.279 Well, yeah, hopefully we're not pointing guns at them. They 83 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.920 would win. But what I'm going to say is that 84 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.639 it is very much about that conscious mind. For the 85 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.519 most part, they are a collective consciousness. Even though there's 86 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:05.399 many different civilizations, and we were approached and by we, 87 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.160 I mean our group when we had a huge shop 88 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:14.800 here where they actively walked into our shop. This was 89 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.040 following a vision that I had already had of them, 90 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.240 and what they were doing was saying that, you know, 91 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.319 you will be the first that comes to the table 92 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:30.160 and has the ability to interact with us at a 93 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.040 point where they're willing to interact, and that, you know, 94 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.959 you got to realize they're far more intelligent than we are. 95 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.519 They've been around a lot longer. We're still, you know, children, 96 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:47.879 but they are willing to accept the fact that we're 97 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:53.600 learning and we are becoming higher frequencies, better versions of ourselves. 98 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.120 And that's what we're here for is to be prepared 99 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:01.079 for that at a much grander level. I mean right now. 100 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:04.560 You know, of course, we've had more sightings than we've 101 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:09.439 ever had in history, which says that we're not trying 102 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:12.199 to prove to you that we exist. What we're trying 103 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:13.800 to prove to you is you need to be ready 104 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.399 for that interaction. And so that's what we've

been doing, 105 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.959 is working towards that. We have built a lot of 106 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:26.000 foundation for that. We you know, are teaching what they teach. 107 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.399 We are working towards, you know, getting people to understand 108 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.079 what it means to be conscious, what it means to 109 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.399 raise your frequency, how to hold that frequency, how to 110 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.600 be a specific state of being. I mean, there's many, 111 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.279 many facets to it. So that's what we've been working 112 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.680 forward is having this type of community that we'll be 113 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.800 ready to interface with them or integrate with them, whichever 114 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.399 case is going to be, and that we could move 115 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.160 forward into a future better prepared. 116 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:01.079 So if let's go back to the extra industrials landing 117 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.040 some point in the near future and saying take us 118 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.279 instead of take us, take take us to your leader, 119 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:10.199 and we go, well, our leader is the president of 120 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:11.959 a country or something like that. They go, No, take 121 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.759 us to the people that have kind of been preparing 122 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.480 themselves for this moment in a way that actually invites 123 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:24.360 a conversation, an exchange, rather than a suspicion or fear 124 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.160 or you know, the threat of violence. I mean, I've 125 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:31.319 seen that now that as we've seen a lot of 126 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.920 these videos, the tic TAC videos of vehicles that can 127 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:39.360 fly way faster, climb, change direction faster than anything that 128 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.879 we believe is an earthly craft. And if one of 129 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:49.079 those emissaries came down an actual being of sorts and said, 130 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:54.079 we want to interact with a group of people that 131 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:58.399 somehow you maybe you're even on their radar already, and says, 132 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.199 we would like to talk to a group like this 133 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:04.360 that has been discussing this in a certain way, through 134 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:09.160 certain framework. And that sounds like it's what the group 135 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:10.360 that you're trying to be. 136 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.680 Yes, very much. So, like I said, we've had experiences. 137 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.879 We've always looked at this sort of unusual. Why do 138 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.199 they choose the people that they choose, you know, to 139 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.160 have an interaction with? You know, we have how many 140 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:29.079 abductees on this planet, you know, millions? Why are they 141 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:33.480 choosing those people? They're not in leadership positions most of 142 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.519 the time. So what that tells us is is that 143 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.559 there are certain parameters that they're working to, which says, 144 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.399 I don't want somebody that's in an authoritative position right 145 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.120 to really sit down and talk with them. I mean, 146 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:51.799 they need to learn about us, We need to learn 147 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.559 about them. If we're going to do it from a 148 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.600 very strict protocol where only government people can talk to them, 149 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.440 then we're only going to get us certain type of 150 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.679 sense out of that, and that's what's going to happen 151 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.559 for them as well. What they're looking for is to 152 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.200 know that there again there's that important word, the cohesiveness 153 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.120 or the integration of species together. And so if we're 154 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:17.840 going to do that, it means that it needs to 155 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.919 be people like us who we understand what they're looking for. 156 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.720 It isn't about the technology. That's a side issue and 157 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:29.840 that's a government issue. It is very much about, you know, 158 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:34.240 taking different species and integrating them or aculturing them together 159 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.559 in a way in which they can understand each other 160 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.320 and get along and build a future. And if we 161 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.279 can't do it from this point of view, then we're 162 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:47.320 all in trouble because most people will have a cognitive 163 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.480 dissonance towards what they're hearing. To begin with, us just 164 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.840 a natural human nature. So when we look at these things, 165 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.759 it's really hard to open yourself up. We've opened ourselves 166 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.519 to the point that we understand stand and therefore moving forward, 167 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:06.519 that makes us a better contender for being able to 168 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:08.200 integrate without conflict. 169 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.000 I get that. How large a group is it. We 170 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.799 haven't even mentioned the name of the group yet. Do 171 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:14.840 you want to tell us that sure. 172 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.480 We call ourselves the Amicron Commonwealth, and we didn't name ourselves, 173 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.879

they named us. It came from the vision that they 174 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.519 showed us. So we've been just trying to live up 175 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.120 to what that vision is. But we call ourselves the 176 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:32.480 Amicron Commonwealth. We have what we call the Guardian Spirit 177 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:37.399 and that's done in the form of a dragon. And 178 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:43.320 so it's all about character, commitment, courage, and the ability 179 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:47.559 for us to get along. And so that's a lot 180 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:51.120 of what we teach. We teach that, you know, the 181 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.639 forty two Universal Laws, which is very important to them. 182 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.080 You know that everything is energy, all energy has a consciousness. 183 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:04.240 I mean, they they really have a lot of perceptions 184 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:07.360 that we are trying to carry forward through the group. 185 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:12.039 Let me intervene there. So these forty two laws, they 186 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:16.440 came from a galactic federation of sorts to you or 187 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.799 your group. Put these forty two things perceptions together. 188 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.799 They were handed down to us, and so we've put 189 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:29.559 them into words so that they can be understood better. 190 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.519 Like I say, remember, we're children, so you wouldn't explain 191 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.080 things the same way that an adult would explain it. 192 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.200 So we've tried to put them into the context where 193 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:45.320 we can understand them, but they're very much like I say, 194 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:49.879 they their first premises everything is energy. So having said that, 195 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:53.120 we don't deal with things that way. We don't say, oh, yeah, 196 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:57.039 that's just an energy. They look at everything and say 197 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.879 it's energy. And because it's energy, it has a conscious level. 198 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.799 And so when you start looking at things from that 199 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.519 point of view, it changes your perspective on where you're going. 200 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.360 You start understanding that there's a coherence or an alignment 201 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.039 that starts occurring with these energies. And that's really where 202 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.519 they're coming from, is what what are we aligned to? 203 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.799 And so there's that higher frequency that they're always trying 204 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.159 to align with. We should be doing that as well, 205 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:25.759 but we don't because we don't have a lot of 206 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.360 understanding on this planet for that. You

know, you have 207 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.799 what is it, point zero two percent that have awakened 208 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.159 to that type of knowledge and therefore they're going to 209 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.720 seek it and learn it. But the rest of them 210 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.039 probably have never even heard those words. 211 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:42.559 Yeah. 212 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.360 Well, Eric had a joke when we first got oh 213 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:46.840 I was wondering forty two. 214 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:48.799 I showed him that, Yeah, I saw the. 215 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.759 Forty two, and I'm like, did they wink? When they 216 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.399 gave you forty two, because in the Hitchhiker's Guide to 217 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.000 the Galaxy, the answer to the universe was forty two. 218 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.279 It's forty two right, and in there. Well, and what's 219 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.919 really funny, they'll say, well, if you add four and 220 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.440 two together, that's six. There's the cosmos right. 221 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.600 There, and explain that. Explain why six? 222 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:15.480 Well, because they have the three, six, nine carried across 223 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:19.759 there are many different avenues such as in you know, 224 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.120 fractals or sacred geometry. I mean, it just goes on 225 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:26.679 and on. So for them, the six represents the cosmos, 226 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.120 the nine represents the universe. And so when you sit there, 227 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.799 I mean I had heard the joke over and over 228 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.279 about the forty two before, and they said, well, if 229 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.039 you add it together though, that's six. That explains everything 230 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:39.759 where you're at. 231 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:44.879 So interesting now when I love that explanation though, because 232 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.159 that's in our house. We have one daughter, my husband 233 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.159 and I and anytime Nikki says, you know, Mom, I 234 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.600 have a question, or Papa, I have a question, the 235 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.879 answer is always forty two. Before we move forward, Yeah, 236 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.440 we have an answer, it's forty two, and then we can, 237 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:01.480 you know, discuss it. 238 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:02.720 So that was I like that. 239 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:04.279 I love that. Yeah. 240 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.440 So when this information came through from who this describe 241 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.320 the who the information is coming from. Some people say 242 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:17.360 Galactic Federation. Some people say, no, it's very specific. It's 243 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.200 the Palladians or the Arcturians or something like that. How 244 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:21.080 would you define this? 245 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:27.759 So it has been handed down through the ages. I 246 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:32.360 was rayed shall d. We believed that we were the 247 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.879 original star seed for the Earth, and so it came 248 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.799 that way. Now I had heard them throughout my growing up, 249 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.399 but I had never seen them. And then it wasn't 250 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:47.080 until like I say, it started when I was ten. 251 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:51.440 I had my first real visit, and then I got 252 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.120 a download, and then finally a couple of years later 253 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.600 I had another visit. I got, you know, another part 254 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.919 of a download, but the download was for the understand 255 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:04.279 of it. And then finally in twenty ten, I got 256 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.039 the rest of the download and it says this is 257 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.720 what you're supposed to be following, right, So I was like, okay, 258 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.120 I have all the keys to that kingdom. I just 259 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:14.480 have to figure out what to do with them. 260 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:20.399 So again, was it somebody specific that announced themselves like 261 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.279 we are the blank dot dot dot. 262 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.399 Well, So I have a representative now that talks to 263 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:29.879 me that says he belongs to the Royal Galactic Federation 264 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:34.600 and he's playating and he has a partner, so to speak, 265 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.240 I guess that's the best word for it, who is 266 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.399 a gray. So I have Mma that's played and Zexhua, 267 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:47.919 which is a gray, and they two entirely different entities. 268 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.799 They both look at the federation differently, they play different 269 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.799 parts in it. So I you know, a lot of 270 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:56.320 people say things about federation. I can only go by 271 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.039 what I've had the experience with. I believe that, but 272 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.320 you know, it's a collective that they say, there's you know, 273 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:09.279 over three thousand civilizations tied to it that it's gone through. 274 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:15.840 Its history has been very fractured throughout many different time periods. 275 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.840 The current one says that there's you know, two other 276 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.879 factions that are at play against them. So you know, 277 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.159 I mean, I mean it sounds like, you know, just 278 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:28.600 like here, we have a lot that goes

on with 279 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.519 our politics, and it sounds the same there to me. 280 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:39.960 But I have what I think are really good, you know, 281 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.279 entities that are dealing with us. So I'm not going 282 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:47.440 to question that at this point. They've never given us 283 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:50.759 any reason to do that. They've always been very You 284 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.720 can feel the unconditional love from their hearts when they 285 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.279 talk to you. So this is what we've been with him, 286 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:58.320 and I think that. 287 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.080 So this is a benevolent group of extraterrestrials that are 288 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:09.119 able to communicate with humans in a non non physical 289 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.240 way through thought to thought process. 290 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.319 Well, they do a lot of telepathy, yes, and then 291 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:20.319 they also will Uh. They have these devices with which 292 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.000 they can connect with you on on their end. That 293 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:28.839 is another format telepathy. But we did have verbal conversations 294 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:29.599 with them before. 295 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.440 They just don't prefer to do that with a with 296 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.279 a physical being you can see. 297 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.000 Or yes, yes, we had a conclave here that was 298 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.200 a physical All of them were physical beings. 299 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:41.160 Uh. 300 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.440 They were doing a study on homelessness, which is an 301 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.920 interesting thing because I was like, why would you choose homelessness, 302 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.599 You're so far you know, more advancingly, and they said, no, 303 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:54.519 we think that's a de evolution. And so they were 304 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:58.519 concerned that at some point, you know, everything's in a cycle, 305 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.640 so at some point they would de evolved to a 306 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.160 state and they would never see what the markers were 307 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.960 that set that off or the benchmarks for it. So 308 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.359 they came here to study. They studied at three different 309 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:14.440 times over the course of ten years, and you know, 310 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.119 they finally this last time decided that they had come 311 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.759 to a conclusion of how it happened. And I said, 312 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.119 that's interesting, because we don't know how it happened. But 313 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.079 what they fell out in a report was that they 314 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.880 believed that the government was the precursor and driver forwar 315 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.000 its homelessness. So I thought that was interesting that they 316 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.720 would state at that like. 317 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.319 Any government, like a governmental system around the world, is 318 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.279 just the cause of everything we're suffering from now, is 319 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:51.559 the type of form. I get that because I'm a 320 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.440 speaker at Contacts in the Desert, and I've made a 321 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:58.799 point many times that the grint for me anyway, the 322 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:03.880 granddaddy of all the extraterrestrial ancient alien theories is the 323 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.799 Onnaki coming to Earth six thousand years ago, and that 324 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:11.799 we do stop there for important reasons because before that 325 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.160 we're relying on archaeology pretty much. And it was the 326 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:19.880 Sumerians six thousand years ago who created the world's first 327 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.240 written language, and now we have history. That's the difference 328 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:27.480 between for our listeners, archaeology and history is somebody writing 329 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.920 something down that we can at least go, oh, that's 330 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.839 what they said. We believe it or we don't. But 331 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.440 there's the things that these people wrote down and what 332 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:36.480 we do know. We don't know if it was the 333 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.440 first form of a hierarchical government system, but we see 334 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.640 that very clearly it existed right off the bat. As 335 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:47.799 soon as we were writing. We were describing what you 336 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:50.279 would call the pyramid, where there's a very few at 337 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:54.519 the top managing and controlling and surveilling the affairs of 338 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:59.720 everybody underneath them and around the world for these last 339 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:04.359 six thousand years, whether it's a dictatorship or a kingdom, 340 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.079 or a democracy or a republic or whatever it is, 341 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.400 it's pretty much the same system of somebody's at the 342 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:15.079 top deciding for everybody else the laws, the institutions, and 343 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.680 everything else. So I can be on board with that 344 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.160 for sure. Of how they would express that that government 345 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.440 is why there is so much disparity in the world 346 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.799 the different forms of government, even though they seem to 347 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.759 have sort of a similar agenda of the very few 348 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.480 controlling the

many, they can be represented different ways. But 349 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.440 I can see how something like homelessness here. We are 350 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.079 in the richest country in the world. 351 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:39.640 You know that. 352 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:41.839 We just think we're the shining beacon of all the 353 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.839 good things. And I guarantee, when I've traveled around the world, 354 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:49.480 I have not seen homelessness anywhere else like I see 355 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:51.799 it in America. And the cities that I see it 356 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.160 in are supposedly the most prosperous cities, Los Angeles, San Francisco. 357 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:59.519 I mean, you're seeing where wealth is all around you, 358 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.960 that you also seen the highest degree of homelessness, which is. 359 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.319 Really said we, like I say, this is a conclave 360 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.079 that we're talking to. So these are all scientists that 361 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.400 they sent here to do this study. So it's interesting 362 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.599 from their point of view, you know, the what they witnessed. 363 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.839 And what's interesting is when we first started talking with them, 364 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.119 like I say, they just walked into our shop, we didn't, 365 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.559 you know, know who they were. And at that point 366 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.319 they have these interfasers that they wear, so did not 367 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.079 look any different than us. In fact, we thought they 368 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:36.960 were homeless people. 369 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.200 That was going to be my next question is what 370 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:40.799 did they look. I'm sure all the listeners are like, 371 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:42.599 if you saw them, what did they look like, so 372 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:43.440 they're humanoid. 373 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:48.480 They were humanoid, right, But at the end we always 374 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.160 did this is a Friday night class, and at Friday 375 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.240 night class we always served a buffet style dinner so 376 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.359 anybody could come enjoy the class, eat whatever. So when 377 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.799 they came, we just, you know, we've had homeless people 378 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.160 in there before, and so we assumed based on the 379 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.960 way they looked, shame on us that they were homeless people. 380 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:15.079 But when I finished the class, then they came up 381 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.720 to the table and the first thing he said to me, so, 382 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:23.640 you know, a very good looking kid. And I say 383 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:26.079 kid because quite a bit younger than me. He

looked 384 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.279 like he might have been in his early thirties. Okay, 385 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.720 he said, you must be Playadian and I said, well, no, right, 386 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:40.039 and he said no, no, no, you must be Pleaadians. 387 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.359 So then they huddled together, which was funny. They were 388 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:47.119 having some sort of well you could tell there was 389 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.559 a conversation going on. There were no words coming from 390 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:52.839 their mouth. So I was like, oh, telepathy, right, because 391 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:56.160 I've seen that a lot of times. And then he 392 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:58.759 turned around and he said, oh, I beg your pardon. 393 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:07.319 He said, that's beneath your oh more or less well 394 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.720 that he know what he was saying is that he 395 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:13.720 misjudged what I was. Ah. So then he said you're 396 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:16.680 a gold energy and I said, well yeah, I mean 397 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.960 I'm a familiar with my energies and everything, and so 398 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.359 so then he said, well, you're supposed to help us. 399 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.480 And then I was like, meaning, what right? Because I 400 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:27.359 don't want to get myself into something I can't get 401 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.200 myself out of. Sure, And so then they explained he said, well, 402 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.759 we're not from here. And by this point several of 403 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.200 our other people were standing around listening to the conversation, 404 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:44.920 so about thirty of our people got to witness this. Anyway, 405 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.200 they proceeded to tell us that they had come from 406 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:54.200 the word Galactic Federation as this scientific conclave to study homelessness, 407 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:58.440 and we were there we should help them understand homelessness. 408 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:01.960 And so, you know, at first I was like, and 409 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:03.680 so how long are you going to be here? I mean, 410 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.920 you know, you ask your rational questions sometimes, and so 411 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.400 then they said, well, we will be here for three years. 412 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.480 So my brain is calculating how much can I learn 413 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:15.160 in three years? 414 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.519 And what was the year that this innercounter took place? 415 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:24.799 So we saw them between two thoy nineteen twenty twenty 416 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:29.880 one and twenty two. Okay, so, like I say, we 417 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:34.319 spent a lot of time with him. It was two Andromedins, 418 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:39.519 two Orians, two Palladians, one Artery, and there was another Arcterian, 419 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:44.839 but we never met him, and so I can't you know, 420 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:46.599 I can't say anything about him. I just don't know 421 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:54.359 who he was. But the Andromedas were the pilots, and 422 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.160 the pilot and the navigator for the ship that they 423 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.680 came in. The ship was parked and gorst so it 424 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:05.319 wasn't like they didn't have transportation or something. And I 425 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:06.839 had been to the ship. They took me to the 426 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.680 ship at one point. 427 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.240 You saw their craft as they came. 428 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.319 In, yes, yes, And it was parked way up in 429 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.279 the top of a watershed, which was interesting. So nobody 430 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:17.680 would go up there for any reason. 431 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:19.920 Can you can you give us a brief description of 432 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:20.880 what that craft looked like? 433 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:26.319 Oh? Sure. So it's what they call a bioship, so 434 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:32.359 it's organic. They grew it in about ten days. It 435 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.799 had these solar collection cells on it that almost looked 436 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:41.400 like dragonfly wings when they were extended or sales. But 437 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.720 they collect a particle for fusion. That's the propulsion system 438 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:51.920 that it has on it. It was you know, I'm 439 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:54.000 not going to say it was a large craft because 440 00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.279 in comparison to what right, I would say that it 441 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:03.319 was probably you know, hundred and eight feet long, lady 442 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:08.000 somewhere in there. But what was interesting is is it 443 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.440 looks small on the outside. The inside was very large. 444 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:18.000 And they the Andromas, have an implant for lack of 445 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.319 a better word that so you have to realize they 446 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:27.880 are bread in pods do so in other words, they 447 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:28.839 don't have parents. 448 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:37.160 Oh, they're bred in pods. So they're they're like testtue creatures. 449 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:39.680 Yes, that's the best way to put it. And they're 450 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:43.440 bread and pears. Uh So, these twos they're on and 451 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:49.359 contained were born for lack of a better word. At 452 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.359 the same time, anyway, they have these implants behind their 453 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.240 ear that allows them to interface with the ai of 454 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:01.519 the ship or the personality of a

ship. Uh So, 455 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:07.400 when I got on there, they it used a feminine voice, 456 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:13.279 and I don't know whether that was because it introduced 457 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.920 itself to me and then I spoke. So then all 458 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.160 of a sudden I saw kind of a change in that. 459 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.039 So I don't know if it was adapting to me, 460 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.240 trying to make me feel comfortable, or I. 461 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.799 Don't know, were you the only were you the only 462 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.960 person that got this opportunity, or were you in a 463 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:29.400 group or no. 464 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.599 It was just just me and I just went with 465 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:36.359 Zendor that's the playate, and had had told Katine and 466 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.519 Zeron to show me the ship. So we hiked up there. 467 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.279 It was quite a hike, and like I say, what, 468 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.119 At first when I got there, I didn't see anything, 469 00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:52.039 and then Zoron had like a I don't know kind 470 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.839 of it looked like a wide wristband on he put 471 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.720 pushed something on there, and all of a sudden then 472 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.480 it shimmered into existence. So some type of cloaking device, 473 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:05.319 are you familiar? 474 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.960 And I must have to think it must be because 475 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.559 of where Contact in the Desert takes place with George 476 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:16.039 van Tassel's encounter with like a galactic federation and a 477 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.799 ship landing near Giant Rock, and he has a very 478 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.640 similar encounter where a humanoid presents itself to him and 479 00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.839 gives him a name. Sulgonda is wearing a type of 480 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.759 a piece of technology that allows this interface to take 481 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.519 place between humans and them, and then he invites George 482 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.720 to go aboard the ship and he sees the interior 483 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.839 and all of that stuff. It's a very similar sounding experience. 484 00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.640 Yes, and I think that's the way they do things. 485 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.799 I mean, but here's what's interesting. There was no abnormality 486 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.720 about it or anything. And we just like the same 487 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.200 thing as if we brought somebody. I mean, I worked 488 00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:02.000 for the shipyard for walk. When you brought somebody, and 489 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.039 if they were given permission to go on one of 490 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.880 the boats or whatever, it's the same type of thing. 491

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.960 You know, you take them in, you show them around, 492 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.519 you're very cordial, you know, I mean the whole thing. 493 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.160 I didn't feel like there was any difference between what 494 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.759 they were doing and what we would do. So that 495 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.119 that's why it's you know, like I say, that reality 496 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:21.880 is right there in your face. 497 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.079 Yeah, fascinating. You used a word that I had not 498 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.359 heard before. It's going back a bit as you were 499 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:33.559 growing up you were raised, what was shall die? 500 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:40.160 Yeah? So uh, it's you know, for lack of a 501 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.359 better word, we don't call it a religion because religion 502 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.160 means the word law, So we don't call it a religion. 503 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.920 But I was ray shall die, which says same thing 504 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.920 that we were believed we were star seeds, that we 505 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.920 were sent here to remember the universal source and make 506 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.640 sure that we you know, carried those traits forward for generation. 507 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.160 And so that's why I grew up. So I grew up, 508 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.799 you know very much. That's why this is so easy 509 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.480 for me. And I think that's why they chose me 510 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.880 is because this isn't any different than where they're at. 511 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.240 So your parents raised you this way, your earthly parents, 512 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.920 And how how do you spell what that word s h? 513 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:28.119 It's c h A L d A I shall die, 514 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:30.319 shall die, yes. 515 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.160 And that that means you know that you're a star 516 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.200 seed coming from universal source. 517 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.000 Yes, I've never heard of that. 518 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.119 They don't go around. They were persecuted for eons, so 519 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.839 they don't go around and you know, just as close themselves. 520 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.160 And that's what we were always taught, you know, be 521 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:56.160 careful because people, uh and usually when they say people, 522 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.400 I mean humans can't be trusted. 523 00:30:59.039 --> 00:30:59.160 Uh. 524 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.400 So you grew up with kind of this framework, this 525 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.160 state of mind, like these types of encounters could happen, 526 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.640 or conversations could happen, and you had them happen as 527 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.839 a child, Yeah, you were, and you didn't flip out, 528 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.440 freak out, or it didn't sound quite too scared because 529 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.599 you had been raised thinking this type of thing could happen, 530 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:20.680 or actually should. 531 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:25.000 Happen, right, exactly, It's just a natural course of being 532 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.119 who you are. So I never really gave it any thought. 533 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.160 And I always my third eye always worked. I've always 534 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.519 been able to read energies. I mean, you know, the 535 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.599 whole gamut. So it was funny when I was in 536 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.000 elementary school, I went to the first time to a 537 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:47.240 sleepover and I'm watching these other girls and I realized 538 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:48.920 they don't know how to use their third eye or 539 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.079 they couldn't read energies and everything, and I thought they 540 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.519 were broke. And so I went back and told my aunt. 541 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.359 I said, well, you know, all of these girls are broke. 542 00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.599 What can we do to fix them? Because I think 543 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.839 I was nine at the time, And she said, they're 544 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:09.079 not broke, they just don't have that belief. So, like 545 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:11.759 I say, was it interesting for me because that's the 546 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:12.480 way I grew up? 547 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.960 Okay, So then we get to you as an adult 548 00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:19.720 woman or something. Were you in the military. 549 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.160 No, I worked for Department of Defense. 550 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.640 Okay, Department of Defense in what capacity? 551 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.640 Yes, I was an environmental I worked in the Environmental 552 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.240 Safety and Health Department. I did environmental science for them. 553 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.359 Okay. And was there anything Were you still on your 554 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.920 path of being connected to these extra trusts your whole 555 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.960 life or did you put some of that on hold? 556 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:43.920 You've always been sort of in this flow. 557 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:45.920 I've always been true to who I am. 558 00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:51.160 Okay. And then so I would have thought, how many people, 559 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.200 just approximately would would you say, are considered a part 560 00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.960 of your new vision, this collective community? 561 00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.640 Well, so right now we have about one hundred people 562 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.200 that have joined, but in the vision there was one 563 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.079 point nine million, Okay, So I didn't know where

they're 564 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.440 coming from. I'm just left it open to you know, 565 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:18.799 the cosmos to fulfill that. 566 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.640 And when did you start this group? 567 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.799 Well, I have the vision in twenty ten, so this 568 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.920 developed shortly after that, okay. 569 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.640 And then the vision would be to actually have people 570 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.480 living together as a functional community. 571 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.440 Right. It showed me the whole thing. So what happened was, 572 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.319 so I was at work in Washington, DC at that point. 573 00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:48.599 It was a nice sunny day, so I decided to 574 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.400 walk from the shipyard to the hotel that I was 575 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.319 staying in, and I got to this one corner and 576 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.599 all of a sudden, something shimmered to me. And then 577 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.319 there was these two beams standing there, and one of 578 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.960 them said, you have to come with us. We have 579 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.239 to show you a vision. So I'm like, okay, why not. 580 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.840 I haven't had any good adventures like that. So he 581 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.880 put his hand on my shoulder. Then we, you know, 582 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.800 time traveled so to speak, or remote traveled, I don't 583 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.480 know what you want to call it. But one minute 584 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.760 I was in Washington, d C. The next minute I 585 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.760 was someplace else. And when we got there, it was 586 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.199 just a brick colored building with kind of green colored glass. 587 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:41.800 You know, I would say very government because mundane, that's 588 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.559 what it looked like. But when we got inside it 589 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.719 was clear that that's not what it was. It was 590 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:55.159 very minimalist and sterile and white and men in black. 591 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.519 Almost nothing from the outside, and you go inside and 592 00:34:57.559 --> 00:34:59.760 it's all science and clean and white and. 593 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:07.760 And so then they took me in an elevator or 594 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.639 what you know, I would have thought would have been 595 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.440 an elevator. Two doors open, right, you step into a box, 596 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.639 but it was instantaneous. And so then I was in 597 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.360 this other hallway and as we walked down the hallway, 598 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:28.119 it was interactive glass and so you could see, you know, 599 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.239 other languages and symbols on the glass, and that was 600

00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:38.159 they were moving around solving equations. And there were pictures 601 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:45.360 of other places, like landscape pictures, just a lot of 602 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.599 different things on the on these interactive glass windows, right, 603 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:54.960 and you could see beings inside, uh, you know, working 604 00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.199 to whatever they were working for. We walked way down 605 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.280 to a corner room. All that was in the room 606 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.519 was what looked like a lounger and so they told me, 607 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.840 you know, sit on the lounger. So I sat down 608 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.480 and it sort of morphed around me. I felt very 609 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.039 comfortable and well protected. And it had this piece over 610 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.119 the top that, for lack of a better word, looked 611 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:26.840 like a halo. Some type of plasma you know, was 612 00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.039 in it. And then he explained to me there was 613 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.239 a set of hand controls on the arm rest for 614 00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.199 my fingerprints to fit into, and you know, he explained 615 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.199 to me how the chair worked. And then he said, 616 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.360 we're going to I want to take you and show 617 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.559 you this vision because you have an important part to 618 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.119 play in it. And I just looked at him like, okay, 619 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:53.039 all right, whatever, because I have no preconceived notion about 620 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.519 what's going to happen. Okay, So then we went out 621 00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.400 into the next thing. I knew we were in the cosmos, 622 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.519 and they both had a hand on the chair and 623 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.920 then he kind of swung it around and so we 624 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.559 were facing the Pegas's constellation and he said, this is 625 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.199 where we're going. So we went there. As we got closer, 626 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.360 there was a huge planet, or what I thought was 627 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.639 a planet. So we got close enough and then I 628 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.159 saw the omicron symbol on the side of it and 629 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.360 realized that it was a biosphere. 630 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.760 It was a constructed large planet. 631 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.440 Yes, yes, like the size of the moon. And so 632 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.679 then he said, we're going to go inside. He said, 633 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.639 they won't be able to see you, but you can 634 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:46.360 see them, and so we went inside. So we're interdimensional, 635 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.559 that's what he was trying to say at that

point. 636 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:55.079 So we went in and it was you know that 637 00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.559 we saw the uniforms. Everything was organized. It was a 638 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:06.679 you know, very high tech setup. Then he explained to me, 639 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.280 he said, he said they are to become the seat 640 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.440 of the universe. And I said, I have no idea 641 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.239 what that means. So then he explained to me that 642 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.440 it would be the common ground for all species to 643 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.039 be able to interact. So I was like, okay, that's 644 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:28.079 tall order. And then he you know, showed me some 645 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.840 other things. We went to different levels in there. It 646 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:37.400 was very futuristic. I mean, just all the things that 647 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.960 you could envision would happen in something that size because 648 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:46.239 you're all on the inside of it. And we went 649 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:50.639 to this one level where, uh, it looked like tracts 650 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.440 of land, that's how big it was. And I saw 651 00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.880 you know, livestock and plants and you know, you name it, 652 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.719 whatever existed it insisted in there. Well, then we went 653 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:09.360 back to what he said was the bridge, and he 654 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.480 walked me over to this console and he, you know, 655 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.719 he pointed to the young gentleman that was a a 656 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.679 console and he said, this is your grandson. He said, 657 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.119 he will be a part of this. He had he 658 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.519 wasn't even born yet. And then he you know, your 659 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.679 your mind is processing the whole time. 660 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.000 I was just going to say, how are you able 661 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.239 to even process something like this? I mean, your details 662 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:41.320 are so you know, I mean precise about every aspect 663 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.199 of it. Was there any and we're winding down just 664 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.960 so you know, we're probably you know, in the in 665 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.519 the final seventy eight minutes, was there any type of 666 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.519 what is the word procedure done on you as you 667 00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.800 were laying in the bed. Was there nothing? You were 668 00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.239 just laying in this comfortable bed. 669 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.000 Yeah, pers what it was doing was What's interesting is 670 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.039 is he explained to me, and this is after we 671 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.000 got back, that it was recording all of my thoughts

672 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.280 while we were going through this process. 673 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.599 Okay, so you. 674 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.440 Said that you saw your grandson that's in this life, 675 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.320 but he hadn't been born yet. 676 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:23.719 Right, Yeah, he wasn't born until twenty twelve, so he 677 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.159 hadn't been born yet when we were in there. 678 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.519 And then does he have any recollection of this or 679 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.320 is a kind of part of a memory swipe that 680 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.000 maybe we all go through as we live on this planet. 681 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.039 We knew a bunch more and we come here and 682 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.159 we think we're not connected to anything and don't remember anything. 683 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.440 And okay, so I want to be sure that we 684 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.920 touch on this. You must feel that we are, you know, 685 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.800 as we hear the word disclosure happening all around us 686 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.119 I mean, it is the word in the UFO UAP community. 687 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.039 Disclosure is happening at sloppy. But we're seeing these congressional 688 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.639 hearings and everything else. You must think that this is 689 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.440 something coming down the pipe really soon, like in the 690 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.119 real tires meet the road way. 691 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:05.960 Right. 692 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.159 Well, so here's what's interesting. I believe we've already gone 693 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.480 to disclosure in a way. Let's talk about what level 694 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.280 that is. Okay, there's the disclosure of do we finally 695 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.199 say extraterrestrials exist? 696 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:21.559 Okay? 697 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.920 And I think that, you know, for most people, I 698 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.880 don't know how you could think this would be the 699 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:31.360 only planet that has life on it when there's so 700 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.760 many planets out there that fall into the same category, 701 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.360 you know. And that doesn't mean that it has to 702 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.639 be a carbon based life form or some other base 703 00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.920 life form. But what I'm saying is is that it's 704 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:49.360 actually it would be exponentially impossible to believe that there 705 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.840 isn't life on another planet. Okay, So it isn't about 706 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.880 whether proving extraterrestrials exist or not. What it comes down 707 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:03.000 to to me for disclosure is is who's holding the information, 708 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.119 how relevant is it and why is it being given 709 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.960 to everybody. That's really the basis of disclosure is because 710 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.199 somebody's holding out on us. And so I look at 711 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.320 this and I say, you know, as far as disclosures, 712 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.840 and we're seeing all these sightings, how many sightings do 713 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.480 you have to see before we believe one? 714 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.079 Yeah? You know, yeah, we are in that period for 715 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.199 sure where everybody is seeing videos and the Navy scratching 716 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.800 their head, these pilots are being I can't imagine that 717 00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.159 this is built on planet Earth, right. 718 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.320 Well, I mean, what's the magic number before everybody believes? 719 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.199 You know? That's that's the bottom line, is that somebody 720 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.039 has to say, wait a minute, stop. We have all 721 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.800 this activity that's enough to convince us that something is 722 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.239 happening here. So, like I say, I believe that we've 723 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.920 already gone to that disclosure where it's not about proving 724 00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:01.400 whether they exist or not. The next step is, you know, 725 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.400 why don't they make contact with us? Because we're scary? Right? 726 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.360 I would say, we're probably Yeah, I would say, are 727 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.920 readiness in our mind means we are ready to defend ourselves. 728 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.840 I didn't make the point earlier, but what I have 729 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:22.239 seen governmental officials say is we need to be very 730 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.880 concerned about this in a militaristic way. We can't just 731 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.920 let these things be flying around and not you know, 732 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.360 load ourselves to the teeth to be prepared for the 733 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.400 threat that we think they might be presenting to us. 734 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.719 That's a that is not a very fun framework to 735 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.639 live our lives from. I mean, the macro reveals the 736 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.480 micro in both. We probably wake up every day with 737 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:49.519 this framework running humming behind our existence. Every single day 738 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.599 is somebody's out to get me. I got to be protected. 739 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.679 I got to put all my shields up, you know, 740 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.400 to be ready to face the day of everybody's out 741 00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.760 to get me, and I'm separate from them, and I'm 742 00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:01.480 just going to get them before they get me. And 743 00:44:01.559 -->

00:44:04.519 that's more or less the social conditioning we live in 744 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:05.400 on this planet. 745 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:07.519 So that doesn't. 746 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.280 Yeah, and it doesn't, and it doesn't have a good outcome. 747 00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.880 I mean, here we are, we've been talking about bringing 748 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.039 on the being on the brink of World War three 749 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.480 since World War Two was over. You know, we have 750 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.039 the doomsday clock, and we've been closer to you know, 751 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.079 doomsday than we've been farther away. It's it's always been 752 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.159 you know, a few minutes of midnight of the doomsday clock. 753 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.960 It's never like, oh, it's everything's fine, we're back at 754 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.719 six o'clock. It's always like, within minutes of this is 755 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.119 it man, it's it's hitting the fan and be ready 756 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.159 or how are you going to be ready for something 757 00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:45.079 like this? But if I could conceptualize it, sounds like 758 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.159 what your intentional committee's community is trying to do is 759 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.960 present itself as no, we are ready, we are of 760 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.239 the right mindset, We're not going to freak out. We've 761 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.719 been communicating with these beings. Just like George van Tassel, 762 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.360 the ventor creator of the Integratron, which I go out 763 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.760 there and talk about all the time. It's a very 764 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.880 similar mission statement. It sounds like, is we if we 765 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.159 assume they're dangerous, we're off on the wrong foot right 766 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.679 off the bat. And you guys, even though you kind 767 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.559 of look paramilitary with your uniforms and things, are presenting 768 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.599 yourself as we're an organization that says we're ready to 769 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.719 communicate with you, and we're trusting that you don't want 770 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.679 to annihilate us. And I think the reason to believe 771 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.320 that is if a more advanced species than us wanted 772 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.039 to do that. They could have done it a long time. 773 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:40.559 Ago, exactly exactly. And that's really the thing is, you know, 774 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.280 we're a danger to ourselves. We traffic our own people, right, 775 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.039 We are so brutal to one another in so many ways. 776 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.480 And really they look at that what they're seeing out 777 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.880 of us is not our best side, but our worst side. 778 00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.320 So they have a fear for that, and I wouldn't 779 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.280 blame them. I mean, that's just like you know, traveling 780 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.719 to another country. It's pretty bad when you go someplace, 781 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.440 and the first thing they say to is, well, don't 782 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.719 go out by yourself, don't be caught down, you know, 783 00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:14.480 because everything's so bad. Okay, Well, now you've got a 784 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:18.440 species that's coming here who's not familiar with the way 785 00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.119 we act and or what they've seen is the worst 786 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.719 side of us already, so they're going to be cautious 787 00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:27.199 and you can't blame them for that. 788 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:32.400 Sure, have any one of them ever presented the idea 789 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.480 I'm thinking of the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still? 790 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.880 The very first one. Do they have a technology to 791 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:45.000 kind of neutralize any weaponry, any mechanical threat? They have 792 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:46.920 the ability to say, and that's not going to work 793 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:47.280 with us. 794 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.119 Oh yeah, they they could. That's why I said, you know, 795 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.039 we could pull out the biggest gun we have and 796 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.480 they're going to say you're going to lose. Yeah, right, 797 00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.320 And that's one of the things Michelle and I talked 798 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.360 about that with Cetic civilization, which is something that when 799 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.440 you talk about the on Anachy, that's where they come from, 800 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.000 is the Withthtic civilizations. This is all part of that 801 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:12.480 living archive that the Arcturians keep. And one of the 802 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.559 things that they talk about is that this is a 803 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:22.000 quantum anti particle universe. So they have horrendous weapons that 804 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.599 they bring with them that you know, destroy total planets. 805 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.840 And so if they wanted us gone, we would be gone. 806 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.480 There's not a thing we could have done about that, right, 807 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.199 But that isn't their goal. Their goal is to you know, 808 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:42.079 conquer and they need slaves. We fit that bill. And 809 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.719 so that's a lot of where they come from. But 810 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.760 like I say, that's those Withthtic civilizations, that's that they're 811 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:51.440 used to. It's a you know, dominate the masses and 812 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:56.880 chaos

you know won't follow. So you know, there is 813 00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.920 a technique to everything. We just have to have an 814 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.320 understanding of it. But they also have the you know, 815 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:08.079 they're the controllers of the negative ailing agenda, which is 816 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.760 the psychic attacks that a lot of people experience because 817 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.800 of the mind control software's Red Nile and Yellow Cube. 818 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.320 And so, you know, the more we know than the 819 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.039 better armed we are with information. And that's where we've 820 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.800 been coming from, is that, you know, we have to 821 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.599 know how things work, what it means to them, the 822 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.840 fact that they're you know, there are good, bad and 823 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.000 ugly in every civilization. It isn't just here. But we 824 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.960 need to be able to have a way in which 825 00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.280 to discern what we're where the truth lies. And that's 826 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.559 what our group does, is we teach those things. You know, 827 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.960 this is how you can learn to read energies, this 828 00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.800 is how you can learn to communicate with them, This 829 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.639 is how you can discern where their truth is. You know, 830 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.960 here's the thing about telepathy. You can't lie. That's all 831 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.840 there is to it. Yes, so you can sit there 832 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:04.840 with a smile on your face and think you're just 833 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.000 being choy or whatever. They know exactly what you're thinking. 834 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.400 So the lying is on our part, not on their part. 835 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.400 I gotcha. And how often do you. 836 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:15.039 Have. 837 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.199 Do you have meetings? Do you do things online? Do 838 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.920 you actually physically get together and share this information or updates? 839 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:22.159 How does that work with your group? 840 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.079 Well, let's see, I teach classes every Friday night, and 841 00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:33.719 then every other Wednesday. I have a monthly staff meeting 842 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.480 on like the second Saturday of every month I have. 843 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.559 I mean, there's always something going on. 844 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.000 Is this in person or can people like our listeners, 845 00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.800 could they tap into your teachings? 846 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.519 So we we're right in the middle of making a 847 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.400 change of you know, on our web and everything. I 848 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.079 have classes up on the web. If they go to 849 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.199 the education damp, those are all beginning level classes. 850 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:00.559 Give us your website. 851 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:06.639 Sure it's omicron. Oh wait is it amicron Commonwealth dot coms. 852 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.719 Omicron common Wealth. So omicron just by coincidence, we've all 853 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.880 heard that word because of COVID. Has nothing to do 854 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.719 with that. It's just a word that came out, so 855 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.880 Omicroncommonwealth dot com. 856 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.639 Yes, and they're going to see it if they go 857 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.039 to the education tab and click on the little buttons, 858 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.519 that'll give them all kinds of beginning classes that they 859 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:32.559 can take, you know, all about energy, consciousness, healing, telepathy. 860 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.440 I mean you know, it's a smattering of things I teach. 861 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:43.599 On the other days, I teach advanced classes like noetic cosmogenesis, 862 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:49.400 which is really an advanced level of consciousness, or I 863 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.199 teach you know, just I've got some We have three 864 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:54.000 thousand documents. 865 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.079 So it's not like, no, it's a I went on it. 866 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.320 It is a deeply layered web page, maybe one of 867 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.800 the most I've ever seen of how much information and 868 00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.519 go to buttons and links and clicks, and you've got 869 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.880 this geometric you know, look beehive of hexagon's and you 870 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.119 can actually touch those different things just a word in 871 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.960 there and go someplace else. So somebody you, and I'm 872 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.960 sure a lot of people around you, have put a 873 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.239 lot of thought and effort into the creation of this 874 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:19.920 web page. 875 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.320 Yeah, we're about ready to go to a next generation 876 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.039 that's got a lot of stuff sin suspend that we've 877 00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.280 learned that they want us to share, and so that's 878 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.719 where we're trying to go. Okay, and Michelle, now we 879 00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:37.679 just need to be united. That's fart of the keyword 880 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.559 for anything is to become united and stop being So, 881 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.559 you know, diversity is a good thing. It's not a 882 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:48.079 bad thing. 883 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:52.159 You didn't you you didn't share all of the things 884 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.960 that

you and I talked about when oh, yeah, Eric, 885 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.760 I was pleasantly surprised, Eric that you carried on this 886 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.039 long of a conversation with her, because you're really engaged 887 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:06.320 with it. 888 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.480 I'm sure you were curious about her organization. 889 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:11.199 Non fascinated by you. 890 00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:11.599 Yeah. 891 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:15.039 And when I came in tonight, I asked, I mandated 892 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.480 to Eric that he get here early so that I 893 00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:20.639 could force him to do a little bit of homework, 894 00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.400 because a lot of times Eric doesn't look at the 895 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.519 websites or know anything about the guests. And I've been 896 00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.039 trying to contact him for the last week or so 897 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.719 to give him to look at your information. One of 898 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.239 the things that we haven't talked about was when you 899 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.360 had contact, you were telling me not only did they 900 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:45.159 say that energy is everything and it has consciousness, but 901 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.400 they talk to you about unconditional love service to others 902 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.440 in addition to the forty two Universal laws. 903 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:55.800 And the other thing I asked you. 904 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.440 About was you talked about some more things on the 905 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.800 Cosmic Disclosure pro on Guya TV with Emory Smith, and 906 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:09.920 you have many many episodes on that program. And I said, 907 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:13.440 I remember you talking about that on the first program, 908 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.880 The Unconditional Love Service to Others forty two universal laws? 909 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:19.719 But what was the other one? And you said to 910 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:24.400 know your lineage? And I've been repeating this since. 911 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.760 You and I had our chat to several people that 912 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.239 I discussed your organization with to in preparation for you 913 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.960 coming on the show, and they said, well, what does 914 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.880 she mean about know your lineage? 915 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.239 Does she mean your galactic lineage? 916 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:44.400 Or they wanted you to expand upon that, And Eric, 917 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.840 I know you wanted to wind down, but we can't 918 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:47.639 go a little bit over. 919 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.559 Are you okay with that? 920 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.239 I'm okay with that if you're gonna sit and do 921 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:54.440 whatever it needs to be done for that extra hour

922 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.800 to roll over to be able to pick it up 923 00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.000 off the skimmer. So I'll leave that call to you. 924 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.000 Oh here, okay, okay. We do need to do a 925 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:08.159 station identification while you're here with us, Victoria, So i' 926 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.079 Michelle you want to I want to just go through that. 927 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:16.599 You're listening to kx r NLP Lagan and Agelagan. 928 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.679 Of Beach, KXFM one oh four point. 929 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:22.239 Seven KXFM Radio dot org and. 930 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.079 The opinions expressed by us or Victoria here don't happen 931 00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.920 to be the same identical endorsements by the Board of 932 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.400 Directors or anyone in any official capacity here. And it 933 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.519 has been, it has been so far, a very fascinating conversation. 934 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.880 People typing in a lot of stuff on my my 935 00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:42.199 that have my phone number. 936 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.440 I have a lot of people want Chad is one 937 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.800 of our other hosts here, and he is saying, this 938 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.280 is the best guest ever. 939 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:51.920 Please keep her on as long as possible. 940 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.400 Well, well, well we'll continue to talk. Because yes, we 941 00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.199 didn't really get into the nuts and bolts of the 942 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.719 omicron omicron commonweal. 943 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.400 One of the things that I'm personally curious about, and 944 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:12.360 let other people have asked me, is it looks like 945 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.960 you have a lot of Navy or people that are 946 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.639 either in the Navy or have been in the Navy 947 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.880 in your organization or in your inner circle. 948 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.519 It looks like and so some of our listeners were 949 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:26.639 curious about that. 950 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.159 Well we have so look at it like this. We 951 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.519 have right now about one hundred people and of that 952 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:39.079 seven of them worked at the shipyard with me, so 953 00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.000 it's really not that many when you look at it, 954 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:45.280 that way. But they're very close to me, you know. 955 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.360 I mean I worked for fifteen years with them in 956 00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.320 the shipyard, so you began to you know, they were seeking, 957 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.480 you know, higher enlightenment and were drawn to me, and 958 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.800 so they've been with me now for a lot of years. 959 00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.599 And so yes, they are very large part of the organization. 960 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.360 Do you ever have because I've only seen you at 961 00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.400 contact in the desert, it looks like there's eight to 962 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.119 ten of you possibly, well. 963 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.800 So there were fifteen of us this last one, okay, 964 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:24.280 so and most of those, let's see, we had you know, 965 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:27.880 they came from all over the world. So one of 966 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:32.119 our members comes in from India. We have one in 967 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:42.480 South Africa, Australia, the Netherlands, South America. So yeah, they're 968 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.000 from all over and if they get a chance. We 969 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.800 have a couple that live in Missouri that have now 970 00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:54.920 come out here a couple of times, and some from California. 971 00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.119 So yeah, I mean we try to get together. Otherwise 972 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.840 we're on zoom with them. But they all have parts 973 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:09.239 that they play in the operations of Omicron, and you know, 974 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.960 it's just a it's a great group. I mean, we're 975 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.599 like a big family. There's a lot of unconditional love 976 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.679 and like I say, service to others is so important. 977 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.559 So they've learned that, but we're you know, where you're 978 00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.199 talking about lineage, they're learning about themselves. We do a 979 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:30.079 lot of cosmic identity stuff that's really your origination energy 980 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:33.719 that drives you for who you really are. And the 981 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.679 more you know about yourself then really the more enlightened 982 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:41.599 you are about who you are. And so's that's a 983 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:43.920 lot of what we do is try to get them to, 984 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:51.280 you know, increase their frequency and become higher versions of themselves. 985 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.440 And I saw that on the web page. It's very depth, 986 00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:57.480 a whole lot of depth there is, like it was 987 00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:01.480 sixty two pages or something that's kind of I don't 988 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:03.159 know the right word to describe it, almost like a 989 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.519 manifesto of like we're trying to answer in advance every 990 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.559 question may have. Do people just go, oh, that makes 991 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.079 tons of sense to me, or if they come in 992 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.679 and go, well, I like sixty one of these pages, 993 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.199 but this last page I can't get my mind around 994 00:58:19.360 -->

00:58:21.119 or something like that? Is there a. 995 00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:26.559 Well I tell people all the time, you know, depending 996 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.639 on what level we're all seeking something, Depending on what 997 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.800 level you're seeking at. What your awareness is or the 998 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.280 knowledge you've collected is going to depend on what you're 999 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.599 ready to hear. So you may not be quite ready 1000 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.239 to hear something, but you may hear it the first 1001 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.639 time and you just totally don't even acknowledge it. But 1002 00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:49.320 then you may hear it again and then all of 1003 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:51.119 a sudden, oh, I'm ready to hear it now, and 1004 00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.639 so then you pick up that awareness of it. So 1005 00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.239 it really comes down to, you know, what have you 1006 00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.960 been seeking or you know, how do you go about 1007 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.800 seeking there? You know, the internet's so full of stuff 1008 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.559 these days, and it's like dump it all in the pot, 1009 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.039 stick your hand in and hope something sticks to you. 1010 00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:14.400 But really what they were trying to convey is that 1011 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.880 it is a very thorough process in which we grow. 1012 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:24.400 And it's just like children. If we teach them, you know, values, 1013 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:29.320 and we teach them intelligence and how to critically think 1014 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.039 and all these they're going to be much better beings. 1015 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.079 Right Or if you just throw stuff on them and 1016 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.519 hope that something sticks to them, then they're going to 1017 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.039 be whatever stuck to them. It's not a precise way 1018 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.960 to do things, but that's how we tend to, you know, 1019 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.360 parent our children and then they grow up and surprise us. 1020 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:50.920 Thank god. 1021 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:55.840 Yeah, does the government support what you're doing or is 1022 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.719 there any talent force that's called Big Norman? 1023 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.199 If I will go away? And I'm fine with that. 1024 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:11.119 I pretty much don't get into what a lot of 1025 01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:13.719 other people are doing because I've been given a direction 1026 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.719 and that's the direction I'm going to stick with. But 1027 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:18.519 I've had people come and say, oh, you should go 1028 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.039 do this, or you know, this is a way they 1029 01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.960 should be taught,

or whatever the case may be. And 1030 01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.960 I'm like, okay, that's nice. You do you and I'll 1031 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.519 do me. So I'm kind of that way. I'm also 1032 01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.440 you know, we've talked about this. You're a warrior. I'm 1033 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:37.000 a yellow cosmic warrior, right, So for those of you 1034 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.800 who don't know, that's a cosmic identity. It's the type 1035 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.920 of energies we are. And so you know, we can 1036 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:48.920 be fearless, we can be ferocious. We're meant to question things, 1037 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.199 We're meant to find the knowledge, and that's all part 1038 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.000 of what our energy is, so we do that naturally. 1039 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:56.840 Then you have other people that they have a different 1040 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.360 cosmic identity, so their energies are going to be done 1041 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.639 in a different way. So but that's that diversity thing 1042 01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:07.400 that we need to be able to cover the gamut 1043 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.360 of knowledge that's out there. So I don't look at 1044 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.360 it and say, oh, well, you do things this way. 1045 01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.400 I'm not going to determine whether it's right or wrong. 1046 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.559 You decided to do that. You have free will. But 1047 01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:19.280 what I do is I say, I stick with what 1048 01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.360 I've been taught all my life and what I'm instructed 1049 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.199 to do now, and I think that that's where I'm 1050 01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:27.719 supposed to be. So here we are. 1051 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.119 I like, you know what you've said, because a lot 1052 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:33.719 of this, I would think that there's listeners listening to this, 1053 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.840 Like this sounds like one of those who was the 1054 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.880 I don't want to use the sword cult, but waiting 1055 01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.880 for the meteor to fly by, and they all killed 1056 01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.280 themselves and thought they were going to be beamed aboard 1057 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.800 the ship and all that. I don't remember who they were, 1058 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.400 but you said things like it, and that's what I 1059 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.760 would call indoctrination. You're gonna We're going to hammer in 1060 01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:57.639 what you must believe in. If you don't believe it, 1061 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:02.239 you're out. It sounds like you're like more educational, open minded. 1062 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:06.079 Like you said, we're hoping people think for themselves, are 1063 01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:10.400 free agents and decide for themselves whether they want to be, 1064 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:12.920 you know, part of this group or they don't. 1065 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.119 Right. I say to people all the time, it is 1066 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:20.280 not my job to change your belief system. That's your job, right. 1067 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:26.280 My job is to bring forward knowledge and you need 1068 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:28.400 to discern where the truth lies in it for you, 1069 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.199 so you know, my truth is not your truth. And 1070 01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.519 that's the whole basis of this, is that you're going 1071 01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:38.320 to glean out of it what you're meant to glean 1072 01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:38.679 out of it. 1073 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.280 And so is the room is the room for people 1074 01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.599 to have those differing opinions and still be part of 1075 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:47.480 your group. 1076 01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.519 We have We have tons of people in our group 1077 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:55.360 right now that have different opinions. And that's fine. That's 1078 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.239 what makes the world go run. That's what I keep 1079 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.880 telling them is that we should not be afraid of diversity. 1080 01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.079 We have diversity for a reason. It's so that we 1081 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.000 can learn in whole other ways and appreciate things from 1082 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:10.880 a much different viewpoint. And you know, it just goes 1083 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:14.000 on and on of why that must exist. And as 1084 01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.719 soon as we start you know, pointing out what's wrong 1085 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.000 with somebody else. We should be looking at ourselves because 1086 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:19.880 it's pointing at us. 1087 01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:21.199 Sure, have you. 1088 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:23.679 Done any work with Danny Sheehan? 1089 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.239 I have not, so you know who he is, though 1090 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.119 I do know who he is, right, but I haven't 1091 01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:35.559 done I don't do you know, I go to Guya, 1092 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:42.079 of course, said Goldberg. I know Emory I know, and 1093 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:46.760 and a few other people. I mean, Darryl Sims, Nick Pope. 1094 01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.920 You know, if there's lots of people I know, I 1095 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:56.280 just don't have time to you know, do that track 1096 01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.639 where everybody's on, you know, uh, what is it? The 1097 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.360 talk show track and different things. I don't have time 1098 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.719 for that because we're trying to do something different. 1099 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:05.159 Yeah. 1100 01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.280 She told me Eric that she doesn't usually do these shows. 1101 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:13.719 Oh she

doesn't do these conversations on people's podcasts. But 1102 01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.800 we we talked for over two hours, and a lot 1103 01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:20.760 of the land language that she used. I say, I 1104 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.920 say that that's you know, like think that my truth 1105 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:26.079 is not your truth, and it's just my truth. I'm 1106 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.679 not trying to make anybody different for what if they 1107 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:34.039 believe differently. But when we talk about how important it 1108 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.320 is to unify. In order for our species to continue 1109 01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:43.199 on Earth, we need to find commonality. And we're more 1110 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.679 alike than we are different. But each one of us 1111 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.480 has each one of us has our own wheelhouse, like 1112 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:52.880 you know, we can call it our cosmic identity and 1113 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.360 knowing our lineage, and we can also say I'm good 1114 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.360 at this, but you're good at this, and this compliments, 1115 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:02.639 you know, each thing compliments each other. I'm not great 1116 01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.760 at gardening my but I'm sure happy my best friend 1117 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.079 Victoria is great at gardening, you know, and different Victoria. 1118 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.840 Yeah, but yeah, I had that my other, my other victory, 1119 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:15.239 but I did. 1120 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.199 It's a warrior thing because I'm not great at gardening. 1121 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.559 Yeah, Yellow, we both we both discovered our Mayan cosmology. 1122 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:26.639 Yellow Warriors. Yeah. 1123 01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.880 But one of the things that I think I wanted 1124 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.400 to share with our audience as well, is is your 1125 01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:34.039 humanness as well. 1126 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:37.559 You know that you have been married for how many years? 1127 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:39.679 Fifty four years? 1128 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.760 Fifty four years she's been married. You have five children, yes, 1129 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.679 and what your your youngest son. 1130 01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.800 I love that you told me this. He's a fourteen? 1131 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.360 Is that what she's say? Fourteen? Yeah? 1132 01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.880 So how did they how does your husband and children. 1133 01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.360 Are any of them involved in omicron or do they 1134 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.599 stand back at that and go you go, do you mom? 1135 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:04.519 And we'll be over here. 1136 01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.320 Well, when my husband, when I first got married, he 1137 01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.440 thought I had lost all my marbles, But now he 1138 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.800 since decided that I found him. I just carry him 1139 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:12.320 in my pocket. 1140 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:20.000 And is is he a part of the commonwealth or no, Well, he's. 1141 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:22.480 Not part of the commonwealth, and I'm okay with that. 1142 01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:26.760 But he hangs around with our group and participates and stuff. 1143 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.480 So it's funny to watch. I just think, uh, you know, 1144 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.760 he is trying to align his beliefs with what he 1145 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.559 knows and and I'm okay with that. I mean, he 1146 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:43.840 needs to do him so. And then my daughter, she's 1147 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.039 in the om chron Commonwealth. She's what we call an 1148 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:56.000 executive officer. My oldest son lives in Seattle, and you 1149 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:58.920 know thinks his mother's lost is her marbles. 1150 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.840 Well, you know, as we talk about this, and I 1151 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:07.199 would say, in the paradigm of the last since we've 1152 01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.320 had let's say, since we've been talking about extraterrestrials, or 1153 01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.440 since the storyline has been carried through the media and 1154 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.159 movies and TV shows and everything else. For the last 1155 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.480 you know, seventy years or so, we've had this idea 1156 01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:23.840 of what extraterrestrial contact looks like, or where we're out 1157 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.239 on the prowl, or we're in star Trek or whatever 1158 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.159 universe we happen to be in. But it's becoming much 1159 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.280 more real in the last ten years. I mean we 1160 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:38.400 have now we have congressional hearings where people in the 1161 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.360 military are saying, this is what I saw. I do 1162 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.559 not know of any craft of any type that could 1163 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:50.519 be making these ninety degree angle turns at fifteen thousand 1164 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:53.320 miles an hour or faster or whatever it is going 1165 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:55.559 into the water coming back out of the air. I mean, 1166 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:59.679 these are people putting their reputations on the line to 1167 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:04.400 share these experiences. So I would think that that wall 1168 01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:07.800 of Okay, you're crazy and I'll stay over here in 1169 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:11.039 normal land. As they see more and more of this 1170 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:15.239 coming through, would have to go at least soften or 1171 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.039 lower the wall by a couple of bricks so you 1172 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.479 could at least peek over it and go,

hm. 1173 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:21.279 You know. 1174 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.960 That's when I talk. I talk in that I'm like, 1175 01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.840 I'm not here to try and convince you of anything, 1176 01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:31.840 but if we can just say well, that's interesting or 1177 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.319 that is happening and acknowledge the things that are going on. 1178 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:39.840 That does feel like a step in a direction. Is 1179 01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.239 it the right direction? I can't even say that for myself. 1180 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.119 Are we moving in the right direction? 1181 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.720 Is that cognitive diffonance and cognitive dissonance comes from trying 1182 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:53.399 to process the mind? Okay? And so you know, like 1183 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:58.359 I say, for my kids, they've seen things. They know 1184 01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.000 that I'm not making this up, but their mind has 1185 01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:03.760 to process it, you know, and I it is there's 1186 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:06.960 no timeframe on that. I can't go and say, well tomorrow, 1187 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.720 you need to get over this. It doesn't work that way. 1188 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.039 So what you know, I usually tell people is that 1189 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.520 you know, when the time is right, you will come 1190 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.840 to some conclusion that it becomes your truth and that 1191 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.680 will change. You know, our belief systems are valuable. That 1192 01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:25.359 will change your belief system and you will begin to 1193 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.600 look at it in a different light. And that's the 1194 01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.119 way it should be. We shouldn't be trying to pressure 1195 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:34.079 people into believing, because that just makes it worse. But 1196 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:36.640 what we need to do is give them a reason 1197 01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:41.000 to know that it's okay to process information, and we 1198 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.800 don't even do that with little kids. You know, we're 1199 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:46.159 too busy trying to tell them this is what the 1200 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:51.279 information is. And there's no exception. So for most people 1201 01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:53.840 I just tell them and say, you know, I'm here 1202 01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.920 to talk if you want to talk. Otherwise, if you've 1203 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.279 got a question, I'll answer that. But they I need 1204 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:05.159 to process that for themselves. That's an internal mechanism to 1205 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:05.920 protect them. 1206 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.000 And if you want to take a step back, listener, 1207 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.039 if I'm just playing Devil's advocate here, but if you 1208 01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:14.239 want to talk about the word indoctrination, you could say 1209 01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:16.960 that that happens to all of us. In the public 1210 01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:20.960 school system, you are told the story that everything we 1211 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:25.119 did as the puritanical pilgrims that came over from England, 1212 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.279 we had providence, We had God on our side, and 1213 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.079 everything we had to do if we had to wipe 1214 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.840 out the natives who were living here, or in any 1215 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.000 of the wars the World Wars one and two, we 1216 01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:39.439 were always the good guys and we never really I 1217 01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:42.760 never learned of any other perspective. I never learned of 1218 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:46.239 Japan's perspective in World War Two. I'm sure they didn't 1219 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:50.720 think of themselves as the evil, you know, stereotypical anything. 1220 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:54.000 They were people fighting for what they believed in. So 1221 01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:58.000 you could say that we have been indoctrinated. Our school 1222 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:02.119 system is just inctrination, like you believe this, and if 1223 01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:05.079 you believe yeah, if you believe anything else, you're an idiot. 1224 01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:08.039 And we all kind of have gotten on board with that. 1225 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:11.319 But we're learning. We're learning more and more and more 1226 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.319 all the time. I mean, when we talk about in 1227 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:19.439 the ancient alien field, we talked about civilizations that existed before. 1228 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.199 Some might have called them Atlantean Lemerne, and we think, well, 1229 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:25.680 that's ridiculous. We know the timeline of humanity, but it 1230 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.199 was in the fairly recent past that we find a 1231 01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:32.760 temple complex like go Beckley, Tepe and Turkey twelve thousand 1232 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.840 years old. Blows the timeframe of what we have taught 1233 01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:40.760 every child and adult all the way up through academia 1234 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:44.880 through the highest levels. That's more or less saying that's impossible. 1235 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:49.479 And yet there it is this advanced structure that stands 1236 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:54.600 defiant of human you know, capability of mill work, stone work. 1237 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.039 How did they move these these giant stones and it 1238 01:11:58.159 --> 01:11:59.439 just keeps getting bigger and bigger. 1239 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.119 Yeah, that we can't account. 1240 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:07.880 For Yeah, so it's yeah. So all I'm trying to 1241 01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:12.800 do is possibly loosen up our

listener's minds a little 1242 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.600 bit because we have been indoctrinated. I would be the 1243 01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:18.880 first person say I've been indoctrinated. Why the American dream? 1244 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:23.000 My parents worked hard, their dream was I would just 1245 01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.239 repeat what they did, own the stuff. Life looks great 1246 01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.720 on the outside. People admire you, and you're you know, 1247 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:31.720 you've made enough money to get to the end goal 1248 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:34.319 and hope that your children do the same thing. And 1249 01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:37.640 yet now I think there's a lot of people questioning 1250 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:41.640 that indoctrination of what the American dream materialism, you know, 1251 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:48.119 commercialism really really means, and are going I don't think 1252 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.520 I want to do it anymore. So let's be a 1253 01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:54.079 little softer and even that word or that that indoctrination 1254 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.319 idea that we have been indoctrinated our whole lives right. 1255 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.680 Well, that other words, is judging. We tend to as 1256 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.760 humans judge h And that means that somebody has to 1257 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:10.159 fit the paradigm that's been laid out before them. And 1258 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:13.680 the truth of the matter is is that everything's open 1259 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:17.800 to interpretation. Okay, I can even have a thousand people 1260 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:20.319 in the same room witness the same thing, and you're 1261 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:24.039 going to have a thousand different interpretations who's right, who's wrong. 1262 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.319 And that's why, you know, I try to teach people 1263 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.720 that critical thinking is so important. You know, we the 1264 01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.239 schools don't teach critical thinking. That's a shame because it 1265 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:39.039 is saying, you know, to look within yourself and is 1266 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.239 your information correct or does it need to evolve to 1267 01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:46.760 a different state of understanding. And that's just so important 1268 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:50.720 in this day and age because we are bombarded by media. 1269 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:55.960 We can't escape the social aspect of any media anymore. 1270 01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:58.760 So it's you know, we're on media overload. How do 1271 01:13:58.880 --> 01:13:59.079 we know? 1272 01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.479 How do we know if we're being propagandized and if 1273 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:07.600 we're under the influence of somebody telling us a narrative 1274 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.000 or a story that they want us to believe. I mean, 1275 01:14:10.039 -->

01:14:14.720 we saw a lot of division these last seven years, 1276 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.479 during this whole you know, Eric and I very beginning 1277 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:20.880 of twenty twenty we looked at each other and said, 1278 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.520 I don't think the world is ever going to be the. 1279 01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:28.640 Way it used to be the same. And we when 1280 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:29.560 we see. 1281 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:34.880 People really really divided, and that that's an area. That's 1282 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:41.079 very tender for me because I didn't I never want 1283 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:47.359 to make anyone wrong for their belief system. However, I 1284 01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:53.039 also encourage people, anybody that's listening, that if you are 1285 01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:58.960 so dug in on your need to be right or 1286 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:04.039 that you're right, perhaps there's an there's a little window 1287 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:08.640 of opportunity to get curious about how other people's opinions 1288 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:12.439 were formed, and that that's that's the barometer I've been 1289 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.239 using that if somebody wants to show, yeah, if someone 1290 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.319 wants to share this is my belief system or this 1291 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:23.159 is my opinion, I'm curious how did you come by 1292 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.399 that opinion? What were you listening to, who were you 1293 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.159 plugged into? Did you listen to other sources, did you 1294 01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:34.079 listen to other countries media or news, or where did 1295 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:38.039 you get your data and your facts? And how how 1296 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.319 does that sit when we might find out that some 1297 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.319 of the things that were laid out as fact indeed 1298 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.319 might not have been fact. And then how do we 1299 01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:54.119 how do we come back to our center to determine 1300 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:58.359 that we might have been sold a bill of goods? 1301 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.520 How how do we justify that within our own system 1302 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.119 that oh my gosh, you mean I believed all of 1303 01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:08.640 this and maybe I was wrong. Well, how you know, 1304 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.000 how do we move forward if we learn that we 1305 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.560 need a safe place to, we need a safe place 1306 01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.319 to for somebody to comfort us. If we find out 1307 01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:22.720 oh my gosh, was I really I use the word brainwash? 1308 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:26.680 There's you know, how do I know if I'm being brainwashed? 1309 01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.159 If somebody says you're being brainwashed, and then I think, well, 1310 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:31.800 I think you're being brainwashed? 1311 01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:33.479 How do we come to that. 1312 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:37.800 Center point to really figure out whether or not there's 1313 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.439 some program running on us? Because you use the term 1314 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:42.960 negative alien agenda? 1315 01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:44.119 Right? 1316 01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:49.199 And can you can you go into maybe what what 1317 01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:52.840 are indicators where we might feel we might look into? 1318 01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.000 Am I under that? How how can we just discern? 1319 01:16:56.279 --> 01:17:02.399 Yeah, well so this is very much software mind controlling 1320 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:07.640 software that runs on the negative agenda? Are those civilizations, 1321 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:12.800 like I say, they come from a quantum antiparticle universe, 1322 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:19.920 so they're already object to position to us anyway just 1323 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.960 because of that state. Uh so they tend to lean 1324 01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:31.239 more towards negative or denser energies. Okay, and they do 1325 01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:34.800 want to control you know what we think act do 1326 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:37.560 and say, so a lot of it is you can 1327 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:40.279 see this on other people when all of a sudden, uh, 1328 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:44.479 they just start acting very of tooth to the way 1329 01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:48.920 they act before. In other words, maybe before they like 1330 01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:52.399 to kit around and you know, be just happy, go lucky, 1331 01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:54.840 and then all of a sudden they're hard to get 1332 01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:58.920 along with and the world just isn't right with them. 1333 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:02.479 And that that's really the you know, precursors that you 1334 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:08.119 notice some behaviors start to set in, and then they 1335 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:12.640 start doing things that they wouldn't normally do, such as 1336 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.720 embezzling money or taking advantage of somebody to the point 1337 01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:21.399 of harm. You know, they wouldn't normally do that, but 1338 01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.119 all of a sudden they're doing that. That's that's a 1339 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:28.239 lot of that software that's doing the mind control on them, 1340 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.119 and so you can start to see it, and we 1341 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:34.319 call it it's a psychic attack, you know, because your 1342 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:38.560 mind is being controlled in a way in which it's 1343 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.640 through that corpus colossum, that is being controlled in a 1344 01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:46.880 way in which you're not used to giving up that 1345 01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.199 control of yourself, and so then you're doing these

actions 1346 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.560 that you wouldn't normally be doing. So we see a 1347 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:57.640 lot of that, and we see people there's this thing 1348 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:01.279 that they call loosing. Okay, so this is where they're 1349 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:04.439 loosing energies off of those people that they can control. 1350 01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.239 And if you're in control of your energies, they can't 1351 01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:11.079 loose your energies. But if you're not in control, because 1352 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:12.920 they're controlling your mind, then that's what they're going to 1353 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.600 be doing. So these people feel tired all the time, 1354 01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.920 and they feel like their body's very heavy, and there's 1355 01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:22.479 just a lot of symptoms that go with it, and 1356 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.840 they become depressed. And that's a lot of what happens. 1357 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:31.479 Chaos becomes their norm rather than an exception. So we 1358 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.279 see a lot of that. And I deal with people 1359 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:36.000 all the time and they'll come and they'll say, you know, 1360 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.439 I think something's attacking me, and what can I do 1361 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.520 about this? And the thing is is that if if 1362 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.199 you start raising your frequency much higher, they can't break 1363 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.279 through that because it is a very much a harmonic 1364 01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:52.319 resonence that goes out with that software for control. So 1365 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:55.640 you need to be up above that so that it 1366 01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.920 can't break through. But yes, it's a terrible thing that's happening. 1367 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:03.319 I mean, it's beyond control here and it's happening everywhere. 1368 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:07.159 So the happening everywhere thing is the point I kind 1369 01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:10.359 of wanted to make with you, is that this polarity 1370 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:13.640 and division and you know, all opposites that we are 1371 01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:18.039 experiencing here on Earth, is that just happening throughout the 1372 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.399 entire cosmos and the universe as much as we understand it, 1373 01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.039 that this model of us, why what what if? 1374 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:29.479 If? People? So you've got to realize that the Ascetics 1375 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.199 civilizations believe that the third dimension was created for them. 1376 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:38.479 We're invaders according to them, and we're just part of 1377 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:40.920 the livestock, which is a sad way. 1378 01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:44.000 Who who did you say? The wass So. 1379 01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:52.520 The Wassthetics are the Ananaki, Reptoid, Draco, the Chromatons. I mean, 1380 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:55.600 there's just a bunch of different civilizations in there. 1381 01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:56.399 Uh. 1382 01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:58.439 And they kept like I said, they come from a 1383 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:04.520 quantum anti particle verse, so it's a different density than 1384 01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:07.760 we are. And you know, we got all of this 1385 01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:10.640 this comes out of the living archive from the ar Surians, 1386 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.479 so they had they kept the galactic history for the 1387 01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:17.079 wars and things like that that this is part of 1388 01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:17.920 that history. 1389 01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:20.760 So what's the end? What's the endgame? That both the 1390 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:24.279 quote unquote good guys and quote unquote bad guys. What 1391 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:28.800 do they see as the endgame for the universe. 1392 01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:33.960 Well, so, you know, like I say that, here's the withsthetics. 1393 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:38.039 They believe that the third dimension, which is a solid dimension, 1394 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.720 belongs to them everything in it. They believe that their 1395 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:45.399 source created it for them, which is interesting because they 1396 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.119 say their source. They still call it source as much 1397 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.520 as the other civilizations call their source. Do they believe 1398 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:55.439 it's the same thing. There's no way to tell that. 1399 01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:59.720 I just know that they call it source, but that 1400 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.800 the Aceetic civilizations believe that everything that's here, all the planets, 1401 01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:09.199 all the civilizations that live on these different planets, all 1402 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:11.279 belong to them and they can do with it as 1403 01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:15.520 they please. And they're all about the resources. They want to, 1404 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:18.800 you know, take over all of the resources, use them 1405 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:21.680 how they see fit. And that's a lot of what 1406 01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:23.439 the Ananaki did here before. 1407 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.239 And so it's a low vibrational thinking and approach to 1408 01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:33.199 life that it's about control, it's about management of the populations. 1409 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:37.039 And like you've said, the realm is what we would 1410 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:39.399 call terrestrial, doesn't have to be just Earth. It could 1411 01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:43.079 be any planet anything. Three D and then there's the 1412 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.720 more advanced or evolved would be. But I guess what 1413 01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:50.680 some people would call tall whites or you know, non

1414 01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:56.239 physical beings but being just the same isolated consciousness, that 1415 01:22:56.439 --> 01:23:00.560 it can express themselves as a either a spece, a 1416 01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:04.039 collective or a group, and that there is still this 1417 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:08.000 division between what we're working through here on Earth in 1418 01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.399 the micro is revealing what is happening all over the 1419 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:16.199 place is this battle of and my question is, I guess, 1420 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:19.920 is still do they not think that there could be 1421 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:25.399 a unified existence between the three D and maybe what 1422 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.640 you're calling alluding to is five D and beyond. Could 1423 01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:31.079 there be something that just says, hey, can't we all 1424 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:31.760 just get along? 1425 01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:35.279 Well? And that's what the Federation is trying to do. 1426 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:38.680 The Oral Galactic Federation is trying to say that, you know, 1427 01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.319 if we expand our numbers and we can represent getting 1428 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:47.880 along or being united, then eventually that'll tip some energetic 1429 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:51.920 scale and it will begin to leave them, you know, 1430 01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:55.119 lean that way. But the problem is is that you know, 1431 01:23:55.359 --> 01:24:00.720 as you expose civilizations to new knowledge, you never know 1432 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.479 which direction it's going to go. And so you know, 1433 01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:10.359 we we didn't learn you know, the art of preying 1434 01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:14.680 on each other that was brought here from outside. So 1435 01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:20.039 the fact that you know slavery and you know the 1436 01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:26.239 way in which we you know, harm other humans, you know, 1437 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:32.840 whether it's by violence or prostitution or any of those things, 1438 01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:35.880 those are all things that were learned and they're heavy 1439 01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:39.239 out there in the third dimension and other civilizations. They 1440 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:43.720 don't say that, you know, they're not aware of those 1441 01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:47.960 things happening. They just have a different way of looking 1442 01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:52.800 at it because who's in charge of it? And that's 1443 01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:55.520 really what it comes down to is that, you know, 1444 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:58.960 we're talking about what nine point two billion people on 1445 01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:04.560 this planet. They're talking about exponentially larger numbers out there. 1446 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.840 So at some point somebody has to be in charge 1447 01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.600 in order for things

like that to get cleaned up, 1448 01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:17.960 and that's next to impossibility just via the distance between things. So, 1449 01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:20.479 you know, I don't think they know what the answer is, 1450 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:22.479 just like we don't know what the answer is. Here 1451 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:25.800 we can tell them why we had homelessness, right, So 1452 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:29.119 it's a complex problem. 1453 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:31.359 I'll bring it back to and maybe we'll kind of 1454 01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.960 wind the show done here. What is your feeling about 1455 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:38.000 the next say, five years for us living in the 1456 01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:44.560 in this realm of AI, digitization, drones, robots, you know, spyware, 1457 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:49.720 flock cameras, everything going on down that. Well, we'll see 1458 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.920 how far. No, it might not be love it. What 1459 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.840 do you see happening in the let's just say next 1460 01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.520 five years, by twenty thirty years? 1461 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:01.520 So yeah, okay, Well so they have told us up front, 1462 01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:05.880 by twenty twenty seven, everything we know will change. Okay, 1463 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:10.760 that's a huge statement right there, which means that they say, 1464 01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:15.720 you know, our governments, you know, they say your world 1465 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:20.920 is trying to become one with itself, right, not necessarily 1466 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.239 a good thing, So by twenty twenty seven, that's what 1467 01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:27.640 they believe. They also know that there's other things happening 1468 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.359 out there and we should start seeing those by twenty 1469 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:34.359 twenty seven. That's not a good thing. So I think 1470 01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:36.199 what's going to happen is we're going to see an 1471 01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:40.920 implosion in the way in which people think. Right. In 1472 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:45.560 other words, you know, fear drives a lot, and so 1473 01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.079 you think we have chaos, now, I think that that 1474 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.359 fear is just going to drive that chaos, you know, 1475 01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:55.760 right off the map. But we also have, you know, 1476 01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:59.560 all these new technologies being presented, so you know, I 1477 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.199 may say there's a right way in a wrong way 1478 01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:07.399 for technology to be used. We tend to take technology 1479 01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:11.079 and turn it into something it shouldn't be. Yes, we 1480 01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:15.000 got the microwaves, and you know, we have computerized cars. Now, 1481 01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.439 you know, there's all kinds of things,

but those are 1482 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:23.359 very minute to the real technology. And the thing is 1483 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:27.359 is that, you know, we're looking at the amount of 1484 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:32.359 disease and illnesses that are proliferating themselves daily on this 1485 01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:35.600 planet and it's getting worse and worse and worse. You know, 1486 01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.720 where are the technologies for that? And people go, well, 1487 01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:41.479 maybe that's a good thing though, because we're overpopulated now 1488 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:47.319 that those do not go together synonymously. Okay. What it 1489 01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:53.680 says is that we are breaking down our human system 1490 01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:57.000 and that's not where we're supposed to be. What we're 1491 01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.039 supposed to be doing is learning that they're for everybody. 1492 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:05.439 There is a better way for our systems to be operating. Right. 1493 01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:08.960 Look what's happening to our foods. Look what's happening to 1494 01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:13.560 you know people at work. I just read an article 1495 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:15.680 the other day and they said they fired more you know, 1496 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:19.199 gen zs than ever in the past. Well, okay, but 1497 01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:22.479 they also grew up in that COVID area, you know, 1498 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.600 so there's a lot of factors that are being left 1499 01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:27.520 out of things. So when I look at this and 1500 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:30.279 I say, on the next five years, you know, if 1501 01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:35.560 we're ramping chaos up, we are changing daily this world. 1502 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:38.800 And are we changing it though for the better or 1503 01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.680 are we just driving it further down that chaos path? 1504 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.960 And I think we're going to see a split. I 1505 01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.720 think we're going to see that there will be groups 1506 01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:52.399 that say we can't change because we're driven by fear. Therefore, 1507 01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:56.359 more chaos is going to be our institution. But I 1508 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.520 think you're going to start seeing people sort of segue 1509 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:04.800 off that path and realize that there's enough out there 1510 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:08.199 to build on now that will help us to become 1511 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:11.279 much better beings. And that's you know, they're going to 1512 01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:15.159 be those populations cropping up, and then that's where people 1513 01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:19.199 are going to want to go. Okay, but you can't 1514 01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:22.000 drive chaos. If you drive chaos back into that there 1515 01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:24.199 has to be something

to control that. And that's going 1516 01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:25.960 to be the real issue in the next five years 1517 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:31.119 is how do you keep dragging every other system down 1518 01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:33.960 with it? And we just don't know how to do that. 1519 01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:38.000 Well, that's as good of explanation as I probably heard 1520 01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:40.760 from anybody, and I vibrate with quite a bit of it. 1521 01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:44.199 You know that we're almost on two different paths. And 1522 01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.119 when I talk about spirituality and science and through my lens, 1523 01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:53.399 I talk about, you know, jesus prophecy of these end times. 1524 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.920 Even though I'm not, as people know, I'm not a 1525 01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:59.960 religious Christian, but I think Jesus said some very interesting things. 1526 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:02.600 And when he talked about these antime, just says you're 1527 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:05.079 going to see two people in a field, and one 1528 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:06.800 of them and they're not one is going to be 1529 01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.680 swept up and taken away and the others left behind. 1530 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:13.760 It's like the two people are there already coexisting, yet 1531 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.479 one of them is living a certain way and the 1532 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:20.199 other has just chosen to live another way, and they're 1533 01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:24.239 almost like, don't even they can't even acknowledge each other. 1534 01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:28.039 They're on two different paths. And I think I don't 1535 01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:31.039 forget who it was. Somebody a philosopher is still living. 1536 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:33.920 It might or could have been a channel or someone 1537 01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.479 like der Anka who just said, it'll get to the 1538 01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:40.039 point where you won't even see these other people, it 1539 01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:43.159 will be so divided that you're not going to be 1540 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:45.439 able to even entertain a conversation of. 1541 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:51.239 Why you believe you were talking about. Okay, that's densities 1542 01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:53.520 in other words, that they become a lower dancity and 1543 01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:56.800 you become a higher deancity. Eventually you can't see each 1544 01:30:56.840 --> 01:31:00.920 other because of the range in between densities. So you know, 1545 01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:04.159 it's just like think about like this. You know, you 1546 01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:08.359 you have a piece of cotton linen, you can still 1547 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:10.319 somewhat see through it, but if you put ten more 1548 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.600 layers on there, you can't see through it at all, right, 1549 01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:17.479 And that describes how densities work. So one is leaning 1550 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:21.319 more towards negative, which is, you know, denser energies. The 1551 01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:23.880 other ones leaning more towards you know, the truth, and 1552 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.039 you know, making themselves a higher aspect, higher frequency. And 1553 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:31.680 so eventually, yeah, they can't see each other because of 1554 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.239 those densities in between, even though they're occupying the same space. 1555 01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:41.760 That's a good explanation. Well, I'm getting a little tired, 1556 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.640 I think physically tired of because of our conversation. The 1557 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:47.279 conversation has been much more than I was expecting it 1558 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:52.279 to be. I came a little preloaded with some you know, 1559 01:31:52.479 --> 01:31:55.840 my own perceptions a little bit and looking at the 1560 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:59.159 webpage and like, wow, that's that is a manifesto that 1561 01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.279 is very succeed It's a lot of words, a lot 1562 01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:04.840 of directives, a lot of quote for lack of a 1563 01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:08.039 better word, rules, and yet talking to you, I would 1564 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.680 say I align with a lot of the things you've said, 1565 01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:16.239 at least conceptually. Might not be in all the details 1566 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:19.479 of what beings look like or any of that, but 1567 01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:23.880 conceptually thematically, I would say I'm more on board than not. 1568 01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:27.439 And I would bet that a lot of listeners would 1569 01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:30.159 probably saying that, yes, I appreciate you, and I appreciate 1570 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:33.840 anybody that holds a vision long enough to say no, 1571 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:34.560 this is right. 1572 01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:34.960 I mean. 1573 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.119 George van Tassel, the builder of the Integratron, he died 1574 01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:41.520 with his quote unquote ridiculous story that back in nineteen 1575 01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:44.920 fifty two he met the sextraterrestrial total him to build 1576 01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.560 the Integratron for what purposes. He died with that story. Intact, 1577 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:53.520 he was a businessman, aeronautical engineer, worked for these big companies, 1578 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.439 and yet he had this experience that he never once 1579 01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.920 ever backed off of. So I admire that as well, 1580 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:03.760 and I appreciate the conversation that we've had went really 1581 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:06.359 a different way than I kind of almost imagined it 1582 01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:10.399 would go, And thank you very much for that. And Michelle, Well, 1583

01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:11.039 I got to tell you. 1584 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.119 I just said to an individual the other day, I said, 1585 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.720 when you have these experiences, you can't unsee or unknown 1586 01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:24.640 what just happened. That's right, right, right? 1587 01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:27.600 So every time I try and describe myself as normal, 1588 01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:29.880 my girlfriend says, oh, yeah, you who can you know? 1589 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.800 Channel extraterrestrials. You don't get too far down to that. 1590 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:37.960 Well, and I don't even know what normal is. Normal 1591 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:41.039 is probably different than everybody else, and seriously. 1592 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.880 Normal when you really think about it, what is normal? Normal? 1593 01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:46.000 It is kind of what brought us to the situation 1594 01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:50.039 we're in. Normal is just following the rules because somebody 1595 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:53.239 told you to do this. Normal is yeah, go ahead 1596 01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:56.960 and accept a new level of technology for it doesn't 1597 01:33:57.039 --> 01:33:59.520 maybe feel right this second, but you'll get used to it. 1598 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:02.560 That the new normal normal normal. It's like, I don't 1599 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:04.279 think I want to be that either. So if I'm 1600 01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:07.000 fringe or if I'm abnormal, I guess that's what I 1601 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:09.359 was born to be. Michelle, you want to have some 1602 01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:10.399 closing thoughts. 1603 01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:14.039 Well, I want to thank you so much for all 1604 01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:16.359 that you shared and the way that you share it 1605 01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:20.920 is very approachable and relatable. 1606 01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:25.560 And we are looking for a path forward. How do 1607 01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:27.279 we forge the path forward? 1608 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:33.479 Especially with disclosure, and disclosure to me is what we've 1609 01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:37.680 been experiencing all along. The government doesn't have to tell 1610 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:42.720 me that they're there. I can feeling and coming from 1611 01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:48.159 my own experiences with telepathic transmissions myself. With that, all 1612 01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:51.840 that is the unconditional love. There's no doubt in my 1613 01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:56.880 mind that that golden energy is available. It's a stream 1614 01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:00.640 available when we open ourselves up to and knowing that 1615 01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:03.840 we are part and particle of the energy that makes 1616 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:09.399 up our creator, and each one of us is creating together. 1617 01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:12.680 It's up to us to create the reality that we 1618 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:17.640 want to see. And you have a way of articulating 1619 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:25.680 many of your experiences and your belief systems and practical 1620 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:30.319 ways of sharing this information with our listenership. They were 1621 01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:33.000 blown up my phone, you know a lot of text 1622 01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:36.880 messages coming in. Many things that you said were resonating 1623 01:35:37.039 --> 01:35:40.640 with our audience, and that's our live audience. Most of 1624 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:44.079 our audience like we told you as our podcast listeners, 1625 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:49.199 but we you know, like I wanted to share in 1626 01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:51.680 the beginning when we were kind of trying to figure 1627 01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:54.600 out our way through our phone line and all of that, 1628 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:55.159 is that. 1629 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:59.000 I started my conversation with you. 1630 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:03.840 A couple of weeks ago when we spoke about you 1631 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:07.119 coming on the show, and one of the things that 1632 01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:10.239 I said to you was, I've noticed you at Contact 1633 01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:13.800 in the Desert and my friend Maura Hoffmann fell in 1634 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:15.039 love with you immediately. 1635 01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.479 And as you probably were. 1636 01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:21.680 Aware, I stood back a little bit and observed more 1637 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:24.920 than I engaged in the first couple of years, because 1638 01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:28.640 I was using my discernment and. 1639 01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:31.239 You know, who are you? 1640 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:34.520 What is your role here at Contact in the Desert. 1641 01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:38.479 And one of the things that I really appreciate about 1642 01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:41.000 what you've done is you've really shared who you are, 1643 01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:45.760 what your experiences have been. I'm really glad we got 1644 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:50.439 it out there about your you know, human life and 1645 01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:53.720 how you navigate that with your family and your children 1646 01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:57.039 and your animals, and you know, you do have a 1647 01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:01.399 regular life in addition to having that inner knowing that 1648 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.880 you are a star seed and that there are many 1649 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:11.000 other systems out there that we're curious about. And I 1650 01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:16.560 like that you teach us about discernment. We didn't go 1651 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:20.520 too deeply into the discernment part of this, but that 1652 01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:23.760 seems to be what's coming up from me and a 1653 01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:24.399 lot of us. 1654 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:26.560 Eric and I just had a discussion about it. 1655

01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.079 I just did a lions Gate webinar with somebody else 1656 01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:35.079 about how important it is to discern within our own 1657 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:39.079 body compass what we're experiencing. And that's why we talk 1658 01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:41.600 a little bit about what does it look like if 1659 01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:48.399 we're being conditioned or propagandized to believe a certain a 1660 01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:54.039 certain way. And we're also looking towards this unity and 1661 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.399 how important it is to communities for us to unify 1662 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.520 and not let our differences divide us. But at the 1663 01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:06.880 same time be aware that there are forces that, as 1664 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:09.880 you explain it to me on our conversation, are more dense, 1665 01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:15.479 and sometimes we can hold them in a tenderhearted place 1666 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:19.159 of unconditional love with stepping back a little ways from 1667 01:38:19.239 --> 01:38:23.159 it so that we're not in that being pulled down 1668 01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:28.640 to that dense level of meanness almost. I mean, I 1669 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.439 don't know what else to call it, but there's there 1670 01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:36.319 is something that's trying to divide us in a very 1671 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.640 malevolent way, and it's up to us to choose different. 1672 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.439 And Eric and I always end our shows with the 1673 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:50.600 same invitation to our listeners, which is, choose love and 1674 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:51.600 be good humans. 1675 01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:54.399 It's as easy as that, you know, just feel into that. 1676 01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:57.000 What does that mean if love is your guiding force? 1677 01:38:57.079 --> 01:38:59.680 What would love say? What would love do? How would 1678 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.840 love think in this moment? And then oh, that means 1679 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.039 I would end up being a better human. I think 1680 01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:07.479 that's really our job on this planet. Live your bliss, 1681 01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:10.279 be a good human towards everybody else, and we can 1682 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:12.840 do it. Thank you so much, Victoria. It's been a 1683 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:18.359 really pitch an enlightening conversation, very interesting conversation. Good luck 1684 01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:21.520 to you and the Commonwealth. And well, I'm sure we'll 1685 01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:22.479 be checking back with you. 1686 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:25.359 If people want to see a lot more in depth 1687 01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:31.479 information of you sharing your experiences, they can go to 1688 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.439 guy at TV and watch Cosmic Disclosure, because you're on 1689 01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:36.279 every one of those episodes. 1690 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:36.079 Aren't you. 1691 01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:38.960 Yes, I have ten episodes out and I have four 1692 01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:42.520 more coming out in the next I believe couple of weeks, 1693 01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:46.319 so there'll be more info coming out. Thank goodness. There 1694 01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.399 you go well, and they can drop us a line 1695 01:39:49.479 --> 01:39:53.880 at any time at abcron Commonwealth at gmail dot com 1696 01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:59.319 and we're happy to you know, answer back. And certainly 1697 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.760 our goal is to spread as much on conditional love 1698 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:07.119 and you know, service to others and be who we're 1699 01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:10.039 supposed to be. You know, we're such a wonderful species. 1700 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:14.560 We appreciate you having me on and being allowed to 1701 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.199 you know, express myself, which I would do anyway. 1702 01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.920 But thank Mariah for setting up the meeting, and thank 1703 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.199 you Leslie and your whole team. Thank you so much 1704 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:28.479 for taking your time out with us tonight. I know 1705 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.880 that you moved some things around so that you could 1706 01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.159 be here with us, and we really appreciate that. 1707 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.159 Yeah, well I appreciate both of you, so thanks for 1708 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:36.720 having me on. 1709 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:40.359 All right, well, thank you so much. Listener. We appreciate 1710 01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:42.880 you for sticking around for a long show. It was 1711 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:47.239 really entertaining for me, informative and if our show has 1712 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:49.800 helped you any way on your what we would call 1713 01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:53.319 spiritual path of just learning more about yourself or your 1714 01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:58.039 purpose in life, and somehow this conversation has helped you 1715 01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:00.479 a long wait, tell your friends and you can find 1716 01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:04.680 above huge library of past shows. We've been doing this 1717 01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:06.920 for almost fourteen years now. In a couple of months 1718 01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:09.399 it will be fourteen years, and we have a lot 1719 01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:11.520 of info out there, and in the meantime we will 1720 01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:13.359 just see you next week, reminding. 1721 01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:15.079 You to choose love and be a good human. 1722 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:16.560 See you next week, everybody. 1723 01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:22.199 This is Eric Rankin and Michelle Anderson from Awakening. 1724 01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:24.039 Code Radio right here on KXFM. 1725 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:26.640 We'd like to invite you to join a conversation to 1726 01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:27.680 raise the vibration. 1727 01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:30.720 Broadcasting live every Tuesday night from eight to ten pm. 1728 01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:33.800 We cover all aspects of the process of awakening, whether 1729 01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.359 it's emotional or spiritual growth with a global audience. 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