Full Transcript for NFL Week 5, NBA Debates, UFC & MLB Playoffs | ATZ Productions Ep. 1

the Ravens are going to beat the Falcons, and the Bills and Rams. I'll have to pick the. I'm gonna pick the Bills. The Bills. Josh Allen is an electric regular season superstar, but when it gets to the playoffs, is when he like crumbles and everything is what I've like truly realized. Speaker 1 6:48 Um, so I didn't discuss my um opinion on the Bills Rams game. Uh, don't forget Matt Stafford is coming into the game with the most interceptions in the in the NFL so far with six. That's more than one per game. That's not good, and but the Rams are at home. However, they are missing a lot of defensive pieces, and the Bills, despite coming off that loss to the Patriots, who are sometimes maybe good and sometimes maybe shit. But uh, I got the Bills solely solely because the Rams' defense is not looking great right now, especially with all the pizzas they lost with Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald being out, and also and also the fact that Matthew Stafford is throwing interceptions like crazy. So I might have to go over the Bills on this one, despite the Rams being at home. So yeah, give me the Bills. Speaker 2 7:35 Yeah, no, that's fair. Y'all got to talk about your guys's team. Let me mention mine, the Philadelphia Eagles are now two and two, and they're playing against the Jaguars. I have zero to little hope in my team carrying this out, and Jalen Hurts. I cannot call him a good quarterback until he throws for at least three touchdowns and like 250 yards, because he has not done that for a while now, and it's starting to upset me as an Eagles fan, cause I thought we were gonna have a good turnaround getting rid of Kevin Petullo. That's obviously not the case, but we'll see what happens. But all I gotta say is, I'm tired of the Eagles. I'm tired. I Speaker 3 8:24 mean, it's better to play the Jaguars right now instead of the Lions. The Cardinals played the Lions this week in the old. I remember watching them when I was like younger. The old like Cardinals and Lions games, Calvin Johnson versus Patrick Peterson. Now it's because Will Johnson's out for rest of the year. Now it's like like Quitro Clark versus Amon Ross State Brown. Holy, and then you got Jamir Gibbs in the backfield still. Oh my God! They are about to get teared up. Pray for my Cardinals, please, and for my New Orleans Saints. Speaker 1 9:10 To okay, I'm just gonna say short and simple. We are fucking dog shit right now, and it's not even fucking close. Like you're gonna tell me we should have beat the Lions. I'm gonna be honest. We should have beat the Lions, my fellow Saints fans out there. You know, we all know. You know, we should have beat the Lions. We come off a good win against the Ravens, then we lose to the Raiders, who actually might not age that bad because they don't actually look that bad right now. And then we go at home, 20 years since Katrina, and we go in and get fucking dog walked by the Falcons. So all I gotta say is, I don't have a lot of hope right now

because this Saints team we were expected to make the playoffs. We were expected for this offense to be better. We were expected for this defense to be better, especially after last year, where they finished top 15 in every single stat. But yeah, this Saints, unless they be. The Vikings, which I think they could, because this Vikings team is fake, in my opinion. If they don't beat the Vikings, then the Saints are in serious, serious trouble, especially with the Panthers and the Falcons in the same division. Speaker 2 10:13 Yeah. All right. Now let's move on to basketball. The big highlight yesterday was LeBron making his preseason debut. Now Isaiah, you are a big LeBron fan, so I want you to guess how much points he had last night. Speaker 3 10:27 Bron, I believe, didn't have that much points as much as assists he's had. Like we truly look at it, Bron on the Sixers is gonna be a like a point guard in a way, because he has to like distribute the ball and everything like that. Bron's IQ is amazing, everyone. Um, no, his IQ is actually amazing. So he knows when like people are gonna be open, where they're gonna be open at, and everything. Um, but like people always want to disagree and everything like that. But see, Speaker 1 11:01 well, I'm looking at the stats right now. LeBron James had 10.4, rebounds, five assists. This 70-sixers team is one of is very stacked. It's probably it's the most stacked right now. Their starting lineup: you got you got Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brown, LeBron James, VJ Edgecomb. He's probably going to play the the three, and Joel Embiid, if he actually plays, so this 70 sixers team, I I want to see this team gel because if this team can like gel together very well, they have a high chance of doing going deep in the playoffs and not I'm not I'm not sure about getting the number one seed like quite yet, but yeah, this uh this 70 sixers team it looks pretty good. However, they're gonna have they're gonna have a decent amount of struggles to get. They have to get past the Celtics. They have to get past the Pistons. If the Tyrese Halburn's back, they have to get gonna have to get past the Pacers. And don't forget that newly revamped Miami Heat team. They're gonna have to go past them as well with Giannis. Clay Thompson's washed, but Giannis, yeah, that's gonna be, that's gonna be difficult for sure. Speaker 3 12:04 You miss one very important team, my bro, the New York Knicks, the defending champs of the NBA Finals. Speaker 2 12:11 Oh boy, do I love the New York Knicks? Nah, Jalen Brunson in his preseason debut, he didn't play as much, but he definitely went off. He did definitely do his part in you know keeping that team in it, and honestly, I'm not surprised by it. I'm not surprised by it at all. And in fact, they also had a game yesterday. And one thing I do want to highlight though is AJ DeBencer? He went. He had 11 points in 23 minutes. Mind you, he's a rookie, so we got to give him some time. But this is

the number one overall pick we're talking about. So I focus up on him. And Jalen Runson, he had 13 points on six of 12 shooting, with one three-pointer. He had three assists, one steal, and unfortunately, he had two turnovers. But I'm not worried about it. Not worried about it at Speaker 1 13:18 all. This Wizards team, I want to see. I need to see it so I can believe it. They genuinely have potential. They genuinely do. Because who you got? You got Trey Young. You got Anthony Davis. You got DeAndre DeAndre Ayton's a bust. You also got some other players here and there. Like Chris Middleton's a really good veteran. Alex Sars is actually pretty good too, so and you got obviously the first overall pick, AJ DeMonza. So this first this Wizards team actually has potential to be great to be good. We need to see them gel first because they did come off a terrible season last season where Anthony Davis didn't play, and I don't think Trey Young played either. So we need to see this Wizards team gel, kind of like the the 70 sixers, we need to see them gel before we actually say that they're oh they're gonna be this good they're gonna be that good they're gonna be bad like whatever you know what I mean so they need to gel before they we need to see them gel before we can actually officially say that they whether they can go far or whether they're not, or and stuff like that. You know what I mean. So yeah. Speaker 3 14:26 And speaking of NBA rookies, this rookie, this past rookie class had to be one of the best classes in a long time. Not gonna lie, you have Darius Ab Jr. who's now a Sacramento King, who was bawling out in the NCAA tournament, and you have AJ DeBanta obviously coming out of BYU, and you have Darian Peterson coming out of Kansas, and I feel oh Yaxford coming out of Michigan. Michigan just won the NCAA tournament, Speaker 2 14:59 exactly. Speaking of Jason Lendleberg, the most recent game that he played was Tuesday, October six. They signed him out in the last game against the Trailblazers, but against the Lakers, he he had 17 points on seven seven of 11 shooting with two three pointers, one free throw, nine rebounds, two assists, and one block. Speaker 1 15:20 Jesus Christ! Speaker 2 15:22 And I'll be honest, that that's looking pretty good. They ended up blowing out the Lakers' game. Then again, I'll be honest, the Lakers are kind of washed this year. They they lost LeBron in 82. key parts of where they are at, and honestly, we just gotta see what happens with them, but also Curry, that boy Curry, that boy Beck, he's finna have a much better season compared to LeBron this year. I'm not finna hold Speaker 3 15:58 you. You bugging. Speaker 2 15:59 I am not bugging. Speaker 3 16:00 You are bugging, but anyways, we're not gonna get into that debate right now. We are going to switch over to the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Lamelo Ball and Anthony Edwards duo. That that's gonna be something special. I don't know if

y'all watched the like the first game that they had, but they But they were passing the ball back to each other back and forth until Ann finally shot the ball. But it took like six passes because they're like, "I want to see what you could do. I want to see what you could do. I'm trying to see what they do like in the Redding season two. Like that's gonna be an exciting team to watch the Minnesota Timberwolves, and they still got Jason McDaniel's too. Speaker 1 16:42 I I agree with you 100. That duo is going to be nice. One thing that would make that duo even better is if Lamelo Ball can limit the turnovers because he had five turnovers in that game. Not great. So if he can limit the turnovers, this Turbo Wolf C could generally be good. There's a dynamic duo right there with Lamelo Ball and Anthony Edwards, and we got to see if they can even also get along because we've also seen multiple dynamic duos like Kobe and Shaq not get along. So we also need to see if they get along. I think they will, but this Timberwolves team definitely has a chance, especially with how they've been these past few years. They've always been consistently in the top six, so we gotta. We just gotta see. Speaker 2 17:22 All right, now we're gonna shift things over to MMA. MMA. Now this weekend we have Brendan Allen facing Christian Leroy Duncan. I am I'm interested in that fight, and honestly, I see Allen getting the win. However, I will not be surprised if Duncan ends up actually doing something to Allen and ends up winning this fight, because he's on a four-fight win streak right now. Speaker 1 17:50 I believe so. Speaker 2 17:51 Yeah, and honestly, with an impressive performance against Canineer, I'm not surprised with whatever Duncan does. Honestly, he's a dynamic striker. He knows what he's doing. He has good takedown defense, and I'm honestly gonna expect Brendan Allen to do more of a striking match this fight because he knows that takedown defense, and he's honestly gonna use that to his advantage, and honestly go out there in a striking battle, but it's also Christian Leroy Duncan. He might land. He's gonna land good shots. That's for sure. Which is whether Allen can tank them. Honestly, we Speaker 1 18:32 all know Brendan Allen has been a top contender for about a year now, where he just came up, where he comes off a win against RDR, and yeah, this Brendan, this fight is actually really good because Christian Leroy Duncan, like you said, dynamic striker, fantastic takedown defense, and we all know Brendan Allen's first game is the wrestling. Like he's the he's a wrestling guy. However, if he stands up with this guy, unless Brendan Allen can actually land some shots, I could see Christian Leroy Duncan potentially taking that one. However, I'm gonna take the safe option and go at Brendan Allen. And don't forget, UFC 332 just wrapped up. And don't get don't get around the main event, not the greatest main event. Natalia Silva and Wong Tong, not the greatest main event whatsoever. However, if you're having 11 knockouts, if I believe so, was 11 knockouts and nine first-round finishes. This was a terrible card on paper, but a fantastic performance card. So, Speaker 2 19:31 now speaking of good cards, this next one, this next numbered event, 333. Hell yeah, Speaker 1 19:39 Volk versus Mazar, Piotr Jason versus Morav three. You got Lonnie Kavanoff versus Tamirov, Volkov versus Kuniev, Arnold Allen versus Aaron Pico got canceled. I'm so mad about that. However, but we also got Kaita in this replaced, so it still should be a good fight. Speaker 2 19:57 I'll be honest, I am I'm a. Big fan of Los Angel Caita. I've been following it ever since before he was in the UFC. I know exactly what he's gonna do against Pico, another dynamic striker. So I'm ready to see some hands thrown over and over and over again, and that's what I was expecting with Arnold Allen. And I would much rather honestly see Arnold Allen fight because this could have been a potential title eliminator for him, either that or at least gets him in the top three, and it's unfortunate that he got injured. However, we're seeing another big star rising, another good prospect, and that's honestly good for the business, and honestly opens up the competition a lot more. So I'm excited for Los Angel Kaita, and honestly, no matter what, it's gonna be good fight. Speaker 1 20:46 Be it for the main event, Alexander Volkanovski versus Mavzar Ivoloev. This is the this is the most 5050 fight of the entire year. Mazar's undefeated 20 and zero dynamic wrestler, a decent striker in his own word as well, and he got Volkanovski, one of the most well-rounded fighters we have ever seen in the UFC. So honestly, for this one, this is actually a hard pick. I would say I could see a Volk win. I could see a split decision because I think this is going to be an extremely close fight. I think Volk can like he can stuff the takedowns because he has great takedown defense. We all know that, but this is going to be an interesting fight. But I got Volk winning for sure. Speaker 3 21:30 Now I don't really know UFC like that. I'm more of like a boxing person, but if like if you had a, if I had to be truly honest, I just take the underdog every time. I love to see an underdog like win and everything like that. Who Speaker 2 21:45 doesn't? That's gonna be difficult though, because these betting odds on the main event is 5050. Volkanovski is a minus 105. Mazar is a minus 115. So Mazar is the favorite. Yes. Wow. This is honestly one of the most pick-up fights I've seen in the UFC in a while, especially when it comes to the main event. And honestly, another fight that I am excited about that could potentially be fight of the night: Loni Kavanaugh and Temurov, both dynamic strikers. Temurov coming off a knockout win against Astro Boy, man, I love Steve Ursec so much. We probably Speaker 1 22:26 love Steve Ursig, bro. Speaker 2 22:27 Like

I, I honestly thought he beat Pantoja that fight, and it's okay. I know that boy's gonna come out stronger. He's a good fighter all around, but Pyotr Jason and Marab. Speaker 1 22:41 Piotr Jason and Marab. Okay, I'm I'm gonna go in and say this right now. I am a big Marab fan. I love Marab. How and I would and people would expect me to hate Piotr Jason because I love Marab, but no, I don't even hate Piotr Jason because um, I think that second fight generally made me gain respect for Piotr Jason. That was one of the most that was one of the most beautiful performances we ever seen in USC three, what was it, 323 at the main event. Morab and Piotr Jason. This fight now that both of them are coming off of decent, decently large breaks. Morab got his nose fixed. He finally took that well deserved rest that he needed because he defending your title four year four times in one year that's gonna take a toll on you. No excuses for Morab though. And Piotr Jason coming off a he was injured. I think if I'm not wrong, he injured his back. So this is gonna be a really good fight. So I can and obviously I think Piotr Jason is also the favorite to win this fight, which I'm not surprised because Piotr Jason I think he's overall a better fighter than Marab, but Morab has such a fast pace. We actually don't know who this could who could come out on top on this one. I honestly can see if Morab is finally like if he can take what he suffered at UFC 323 and bring it back here to UC 333 and actually improve on it. I can see Morab winning, but as of now, I got Pierre on. Speaker 2 24:07 Yeah, and the two final main events for the year: Josh Hookett and Cyril Gan, and potentially Oliveira versus Lopez. It's gonna be an exciting way to end the year off with UFC, Speaker 1 24:24 without a doubt. One of the best, honestly, this could be, this might be one of the best years in UFC history. All the upsets we've had, all the exciting fights that we've had. Paramount, the Paramount era didn't start off well. With 324 was great. 325 was eh. 326 was eh. But then once 327 hit, the number of cards I've been on the roll. So, well, maybe maybe not 330 because 330 was a little was a little something some. Speaker 2 24:49 And let's not forget about 332. We yeah we Speaker 1 24:52 332 was not a let's be honest a lot of knockouts. I was a huge fan of the card while it happened. Not the greatest post card I'm. Especially with Natalia Silva and Wong Tong as your freaking main event, like we don't do that. But yeah, that's how it's gonna. That's how it is right now. Cyril Gun versus Josh Hoken. I don't really like either of them. I'm beyond. Cyril Gunn's a cheater. Josh Hogan is a is fucking annoying as hell. And honestly, I think Josh Hogan being annoying as hell can actually get him get him the title because he's he plays so much mind games it's actually nuts like Josh Howard I know he has a character because I've seen him on streets he actually looks like a cho dude but I think I honest but for now I have to go Cyril Gun because Cyril Gun is the most most athletic heavyweight the fastest heavyweight. I have to go a zero gun as of now. Speaker 2 25:44 Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you on that. And honestly, with that Lopez and Oliver fight, it's another pick 'em. Speaker 1 25:50 Oh my God, I love them both so much. I don't want to see either of them lose. I don't. I can't. I don't know if I'll be able to handle Charles getting knocked out again. But the pen, I would say the game is gonna go to the ground, but people forget Diego Lopez's ground game is actually pretty solid. People forget that. Speaker 3 26:09 But Speaker 1 26:11 yes, Amanda Nunez is still fighting. Yeah, Amanda Nunez and Kayla Harrison. I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna go to that in a bit. But yeah, that's that's what I. That's gonna be a toss up for me. Diego Lopez, and and Charles Oliveira. I'm gonna have to go. I'm honestly gonna go with Charles because Diego Lopez is moving up. But I would not be surprised if Diego wins. Speaker 2 26:34 All right. Yeah. And honestly, like in my opinion, I really don't like Oliveira. Speaker 1 26:48 Come on, what he Speaker 2 26:49 what he did to win that BMF? How could Speaker 1 26:52 you hate Charles Oliveira? He is Speaker 2 26:53 not a BMF. Speaker 1 26:55 I can I can't I can't deny that. But how can you hate Charles Oliveira? Speaker 2 27:00 Did I want him to win against Zaporia? Yes, but am I honestly glad to see, like, not a freaking grappler be a champion? But I'm sorry, we've already dealt with that with fricking Islam, Hamzad, and all of those fighters, even Marab, I'm tired of seeing the wrestling. Yes, wrestling is part of MMA. Yes, it's a good strategy. But honestly, like, what's people are people don't like seeing a boring main event played out. For example, Dricus Duplessi versus Kamzat Jamieev, boring main event. That boy had 800 strikes Speaker 1 27:49 on the ground. Don't forget that Speaker 2 27:51 30 of them were significant. That's the part. Speaker 1 27:55 That is the part. I I can't I can't deny that. Like, hey, one thing I will say: DDP versus three UFC 319 was a huge hyped card, especially with DDP and Hamza supposedly having beef. But yeah, I got a great. I it wasn't. I don't think it was as boring as people say it is. It was definitely boring. Don't get me wrong. But people say if you don't want to watch a boring fight, watch boxing. Boxing. I don't. I'm not a boxing guy. I'll be honest, because people don't understand that boxing is. I don't want to offend you here because you're more of a boxing guy, but I don't really like boxing that much. I don't. I'm gonna be honest. I don't. I genuinely. I'm definitely more of an MMA guy over boxing. So, people that say that, come on, come on, bro. You got it. We got to be smarter here. Speaker 2 28:40 And I'll be honest, there are certain boxers that I will watch, say like

Ryan Garcia, Canelo, like those big super fights, even Javante Davis. All three of those are good, interesting fighters, but when it comes to like MMA, there I'm gonna be honest, there's so much more excitement in a three in a five minute round with five rounds instead of 12 two minute rounds. Honestly, Speaker 1 29:13 yes, Speaker 2 29:14 and the amount of stops is just Speaker 1 29:17 annoying. It is Speaker 2 29:18 annoying. Speaker 3 29:20 the The reason why I like boxing is because it's just straight hands. You don't gotta do. You don't gotta go on the ground or anything like that. It's just like who has the better hands, who has the better stamina, and who has the better like footwork and everything like that. You have. I'm gonna bring up this fight because it was a it was a big fight. I would say like last year, it was Terrence Crawford versus Canelo, and I remember all my all my boys saying they got Canelo. I'm I'm I'm, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go for Terence Crawford because I because I feel like it. And Terence Crawford, like he would, they were actually like going back and forth. Like jab after jab after jab, and then Terence Crawford like it went to like decision and Crawford won, but like during the fight I'm I catch myself like standing up and I'm like I'm like trying to like box myself or something like that like that like it was entertaining like for me and everything, and that's why like I feel like I've connect more with boxing, like UFC, I don't want to see like them wrestle on the ground. I want to see them like throw hands, like when they whenever they get knocked out, that's when I get excited. But whenever they like get some like choked out or whatever, that's not like that's not me at all. All Speaker 1 30:34 right, but what do you know about UFC 250? UFC Freedom 250. That that Gaichi fight. That Gaichy fight was freaking nuts. People saying that Gaichi dominated that fight. I dis. I personally disagree. Gaiche just caught him on the right moments, especially in round three, where he had that big right overhand that rocked Toporia. We've never seen Ilio Taporio like that. We we seen him rock before, and we've seen him, but we've seen him recover with Holloway, like with Holloway and even Jai Herbert. If I'm not wrong, he got knocked down by Jai Herbert. Speaker 2 31:04 Yeah, Speaker 1 31:05 we've never seen Ilia Taporio with a bloodied up face and not recover from that right hand, especially that knee at the end. I still I still feel that to this day. That's Speaker 2 31:14 that's the kind of ground game I like seeing that dynamic moving around, striking, going for submissions. Honestly, rather than just lying on the ground and doing like puny hammer fists and elbows that aren't doing that much damage, like I love to see the ground game. I used to do jujitsu. That stuff is fun. Speaker 1 31:33 It is fun. But Speaker 2 31:35 honestly, seeing people just go on the ground, shoot for takedowns, shoot for that control time. It's not it. It's not it. And I remember that 250 fight. I was with my Speaker 1 31:48 dad Speaker 2 31:49 at Buffalo Wild Wings, and oh, we were hype. We were hype because we decided to put money on that on that fight. Speaker 1 32:00 Ooh, that payout-that was what gave you. It came out as a massive underdog against um against Taporia and put up one of the best performances, the best performance of his entire career. No one has ever beat Ilya Taporio, let alone make him look beat up like that. You know what I mean? So yeah, Ilya Ilya Taporia looked. He was battered. He he couldn't see out of his eyes. He was hurt bad, and eventually, I just stopped the fight. So yeah, the Gaichi would have had the best performance of his career. I know for two 250 happened like a few months ago, but we're still talking about it because one of the greatest cards I've ever witnessed. But uh, but yeah, this I honestly, along with many people, didn't know how this card would turn out. I thought this card would be like, eh, it's not, it's good, it's not bad, but it's not great. Like, why is Bo Nickel on the card? But Bo Nickel also also got a finish, so can't even complain about that. Diego Lopez versus Steve Garcia, Diego Lopez with a knockout, Josh Hogan versus Derek Lewis. Derek Lewis doesn't want to fight anymore. Like Derek Lewis, I like Derek Lewis, the Black Beast. We love Derek Speaker 2 33:06 Lewis, bro. Speaker 1 33:07 We love Derek Lewis. Like Sean O'Shaun O'Malley from Amos, a hobby said he was gonna knock him out of the press conference, knocked him the fuck out. Speaker 2 33:13 And mind you, Zaobi was on a fucking like seven fight win streak. Speaker 1 33:16 Yes, he was. And that Speaker 2 33:17 boy was like, that boy trains with GSP in his camp, but honestly, you're not gonna be Canada's best, bro. That we're just gonna leave that to GSP. No. Speaker 1 33:29 Yeah, and honestly, Pereira versus Zero Gone wanted Pereira to win. Huge fan of Pereira. I am still mad about those illegal headshots. However, after thinking about it for maybe like another like few days after that fight, Cyril Gan was gonna win that fight regardless. He had he had Pereira hurt bad in that first round because he kept on touching up with a jab. He was marking up his face. Pere did have a late connection, if I'm not wrong. It was a right hook. He had that late connection against Cyril Gan. I thought maybe that could carry some momentum into the second round, no zero gone. Dropped him with a stiff jab, and yep, that was Speaker 2 34:05 it. All right, I'm gonna quickly cover baseball, and then we're gonna go straight into takes baseball. The Yankees got swept by the Rays. The Braves ended up losing over four games against the Dodgers, and the Guardians and White White Sox are playing a game five on Saturday, and I'm excited for that. And also, the Brewers are back in the NLCS against the

after winning against the Padres, but we don't got to worry about that now. Takes, Reed's gonna give one take, any sport, anything like that, or maybe we could do more than one. Who knows? But Speaker 1 34:46 depends on how much time we got. Speaker 2 34:47 But honestly, I'm gonna have it start off with Z. All Speaker 1 34:51 right, bet let's get it. Speaker 3 34:52 All right, for my not not so crazy take. Honestly, I got Bryce Young winning MVP. This year for NFL, reason being the way he's been bawling out these last couple weeks, especially last week versus a good Lions team. You had Tech McMillan going for I believe it was over 150 or some couple like Speaker 2 35:18 200 Speaker 3 35:18 exactly, and you have Bryce Young going crazy, bro, for a couple of touchdowns. I believe it was two. Speaker 2 35:27 Even Chuba Hubbard, 329 Speaker 1 35:29 yards, two touchdowns. Tech McMillan at 14 receptions for 192 yards and two touchdowns. Exactly. Speaker 1 35:36 That's freaking nuts. You Speaker 3 35:37 got Tech McMillan going crazy. You got Bryce Young going crazy. You can't forget. Can't forget about Hubbard either. Yeah, Howard. Yeah, he went Speaker 2 35:42 off too, like over like 120 rushing yards. Had like two touchdowns, I believe it was, or Speaker 3 35:49 one. Yo, what? Give me Panthers to the ball. Speaker 2 35:52 Oh, now that's a little bit more crazy. That's a Speaker 1 35:54 little crazier. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate the Panthers, but the Panthers have their offensive look has looked fantastic. Bryce Young winning MVP. If he continues the the way he's playing right now, not the craziest take, but he still has to he still has to worry about the Lamar Jacksons, the Patrick Mahomes, the Josh Allens, even like the Sam not Sam Darnold, the Staffords. I don't know about Speaker 2 36:16 um not Jackson. I'll be honest, he that to be fair, Speaker 1 36:20 Lamar Jackson is injured. I didn't forget about that, but Speaker 2 36:22 but it's not crazy. However, I'll be honest. This MVP race this MVP Speaker 1 36:28 race is going to be extremely. It's Speaker 2 36:30 always going to be a toss up in the NFL. You never truly know, because mind you, Josh Allen coming off a good 2024 2025 campaign, and then for us to see Stafford win it, it's honestly surprising. But at the same time, it's Matthew Stafford. That boy has gotten better and better and better, despite being 38. Speaker 1 36:52 He's aged like Speaker 2 36:54 one. That's true, but honestly, I wouldn't say too crazy, but you know what? But let's see what Bryce Young does. Let's see what he Speaker 1 37:05 does. Speaker 2 37:07 All right, um, for me, Speaker 1 37:10 yeah, Speaker 2 37:12 crazy MMA take. Speaker 1 37:15 MMA take. Okay, I want to hear this. Speaker 2 37:17 Not only is GSP the goat, but Prime for prime, they were gonna hype this up, and they're trying to get this fight

actually to happen. GSP beats Khabib in a five round, 25 minute fight for for a title. Speaker 1 37:33 I agree. If Khabib's wrestling is obviously one, it's one of one. Like it's his wrestling is one of the best we've ever seen. He is extremely overrated, though. He's only don't forget B.J. Penn, who has 1416, wins, 14 losses, and one draw, I believe. Same amount of title defenses as Khabib. I think Khabib, if he found, if he finally met his match, he would have. I think he would have lost eventually. But yeah, like GSP would have been that guy that he would lost to. So I think GSP does be Khabib because we all know GSP's wrestling is obviously really good. Is obviously really good. His Speaker 2 38:07 jujitsu game is good. Jujitsu, Speaker 1 38:09 his jujitsu. But honestly, Speaker 2 38:10 he's also such a much more dynamic striker. Striker, Speaker 1 38:13 yes. And the Speaker 2 38:14 reach, the size, and reach and strength, and overall power Speaker 1 38:19 of GSP is going to overwhelm Khabib, but we never seen. We're not. We're never seen Khabib overwhelmed. So yes, the only time we see him overwhelmed is in that one round against Connor, and that was it. Speaker 2 38:29 That's the only person to win a round against Khabib, which is honestly nuts to think about. And mind you, sure he has a 29 and zero record, but 16 of them were all unranked Russians, all put together by his dad. Yes, mind you, not only was he his coach, but his promoter. Speaker 1 38:50 Yes. Speaker 2 38:50 So think about that for a second. And mind you, GSP, sure he lost. He avenged both losses by knockout. Think about it like that. Speaker 1 39:02 Yes. Speaker 2 39:02 Think about it like that. Speaker 1 39:04 And for my for my take, it's not. I'm honestly, I don't really have a crazy take as of now because I didn't really prepare for that part. But obviously, there's this one part, this one channel called Clash on what is it called on House of Highlights, I believe. There's one video saying one Tom Brady fan versus 10 Tom Brady haters. These Tom Brady haters were trying to so hard to go against Tom Brady. How could Tom Brady not be the goat? Who else would you put above Tom Brady? They're saying Tom Brady is the luckiest quarterback of all time, and most of them are Giants fans. You would argue. I could argue that Eli Manning. Actually, this is my take right here. Eli Manning's the luckiest, most overrated quarterback in NFL history. Is that crazy to say? Speaker 2 39:48 I'm not finna lie. I'm not finna lie. I'm like, I'm kind of iffy on it. I'm not saying you have good points. You definitely have good points. But this guy was a dog at Ole Miss, and moving on to the NFL for the first good chunk of his years. Sure, as soon as the 2010 s rolled around, the Giants were hot booty cheeks, hot booty cheeks, and the only thing the good to come out of New York Giants during the 2010s was OBJ. That catch, I still, I still, I remember trying it at recess. I remember it working once. Speaker 3 40:32 Gang, they won two two Super Bowls in the 2010s, I believe. Speaker 2 40:37 It wasn't in the 20s. I'll do the 2000s. Speaker 3 40:39 Let's do 2000s. Speaker 1 40:40 But Speaker 3 40:42 I would say to your to your point, Eli Manning being the luckiest quarterback and everything, the helmet catch, that was one of the most luckiest moments, like to like like ever because that right there made every Patriots fan, every Tom Brady fan, hate Eli Manning in that one instance. Speaker 2 41:04 Yeah. Speaker 4 41:04 Yes, Speaker 2 41:05 and I'm be honest, like Speaker 3 41:09 because Tom Brady should have eight rings right now, I believe, right? Because yeah, no, nine rings, nine rings, nine rings. He should have nine rings. Because honestly, Speaker 1 41:18 I think that that one Super Bowl against the Eagles, he they they they lost that for sure. Yeah, no. That's my Eagles. That was one of the best performances I've ever seen. Yes, Jay Speaker 2 41:26 Jaye, Nelson Aguilar, Zach Ertz, Alshon Jeffrey, all getting a touchdown, and that Philly special too. Speaker 1 41:34 Philly special, and I'm gonna continue, and I'm a I'm a continue, and Nick Foles. Don't forget Benic Foles, but I'ma say Speaker 2 41:42 that's my MVP, Super Bowl MVP, man. But let's not forget Carson Wentz, though. That boy, that boy would have won the Super Bowl too. Speaker 1 41:49 And I'm gonna continue on my point about Eli Manning being a lucky quarterback. Don't get me. I'm not denying his. I'm not denying his skill. I think he's actually a skilled quarterback. He, his honestly, that Mario Manningham catch, that catch again should never happen. But that was, let's be honest, that was that was also a dime by Eli Manning. I'll give a I'll give him that. But Eli Manning, the reason I call him overrated, because he only has those two moments, those two Super Bowl moments. What other moment has Eli Manning had in his career besides those two moments, like what other like major moment? You could say that OBJ can. That's definitely more of an OBJ moment than Eli Manning, and also he was never a top five quarterback when he played, because Drew Tom Brady was better than Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Peyton Manning. I believe that's no, I did say Peyton Manning. Okay, maybe not Big Ben. Big Ben is a little crazy, but Big Ben, I put Big Ben over him as of now. But yeah, I don't, and he's also only a four-time Pro Bowl. He's only a four four-time Pro Bowler in his entire career. I don't, I don't necessarily. That boy, that boy Speaker 2 42:56 is all pro. That boy is all pro. Speaker 1 42:58 He is all pro. I won't. I won't deny that. I won't deny. Speaker 2 43:01 Don't sure he's the younger Eli. He's the younger Manning brother. Speaker 1 43:05 It's not even that. But Speaker 2 43:06 don't put some dirt on my boy's name. And it's

Speaker 1 43:08 not even that. I just put. I just think he's overrated. That's just me, though. Speaker 2 43:12 But Tom Brady doesn't have to win against Super High Fire. Speaker 3 43:20 Oh nah. Should we do? Should we do one more take or one more take? Let's get one more take in. Speaker 2 43:28 Yeah, we'll get one more take in. But I also just want to clarify part of my other take. GSP being the all-time goat, he he literally he's 26 and two, had the greatest underdog story, being bullied as his entire childhood, and mind you, having to go from Canada to New York just so he could train, and he was a garbage worker too. Speaker 1 43:50 He was a garbage worker, and he also had two. He also had. He's also a double champ. Speaker 2 43:55 He's also a double champ. Speaker 1 43:57 He's a double champ. Speaker 2 43:58 And honestly, if we we all know why he like the reason why he left after winning the Johnny Hendricks fight is because he wanted to be a family man. That's very respectable, and he had a very good career. And when he came back and smugged Bisping Michael Bisping, I don't know why I said whatever. That's not a weird. Don't worry about it. But all I'm gonna say is, if he didn't retire after Johnny Hendricks, that boy would just kept on going. And a hot take. He would have beat Silva and became the first double champion if he didn't retire. Speaker 1 44:41 That's not the craziest thing to say. Anderson Silva was on the roids. I will say that, but uh, that's not the craziest thing to say. GSP is obviously one of the most dynamic dynamic fighters in history, but also so is Anderson Silva. I think the striking of Anderson Silva could have given GSP problems. It genuinely could have, because Anderson Silva. Speaker 2 44:58 Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Speaker 1 45:00 Very creative strike. He's a very he was a very creative striker. He looked he made fantastic middleweights at the time look average. That is one thing I will give to Edison Silva. Speaker 2 45:08 Definitely true. I will give Anderson Silva obviously one of the middleweight goats, except for Israel Adasanya though. Speaker 1 45:17 We love we love Izzy. Trust we we all love Izzy here. Speaker 2 45:20 He's gonna get a win. Don't worry. He's gonna make a title run. Hopefully, I'll be a little delusional, but like not having GSP at the top of the go list is a bit weird. Cause the guys that he faced, all time legends, all of them are legends. Well, except for Johnny Hendrickson, Josh Koshchei. Speaker 1 45:39 Yeah, Speaker 2 45:39 we we don't like them. Speaker 1 45:40 It's and Matt Sarah. Don't forget about Matt. Oh yeah, he did lose to Matt Sarah, but he also got gotten back. So Speaker 2 45:45 Matt Sarah got dog walked in that second fight. But one more take. Anybody have one more take? Speaker 3 45:52 I have one basketball take, and it's about Victor Wembanyama. Speaker 2 45:57 Oh my god, I I fucking hate him. I swear to God, oh my God, everybody be riding his dick. I swear to God, freaking 2K, freaking Ronnie 2K flying out to France and giving him that sloppy toppy every single freaking night. I swear, he should not have been on the 2K27 cover. It should have been Jalen Brunson after what he did carrying the Knicks all throughout the playoffs, and Victor Wemmenyama freaking sucks. Speaker 3 46:24 Let me get a let me get a bacon egg of cheese. Okay, hey, let me get a Brunson egg of cheese. Speaker 1 46:28 Okay, honestly, the Jalen Brunson thing about him being on the cover, I can't I can't disagree with that because then the Knicks had just come off winning the NBA Finals. He just won the Finals MVP. He was definitely the best player on that Knicks team. But shout out to OG and Anobi. He fucking clutched up in that series. Suni Lee, Speaker 2 46:44 baby. Speaker 1 46:45 But yeah. Speaker 2 46:50 All right. All right. Let's let Zay continue what he was about to say about Victoryama. Speaker 3 46:55 So, Victoryama will be a more dominant center than Shaquille O'Neal. That boy's Speaker 2 47:06 skinny. That boy's skinny. If he could, if he could get, Speaker 1 47:08 if if Victor Webby Young could work work on the strength, I can definitely see that. I can definitely see that. But but the thing is about Shaq, that man moved 300 Speaker 2 47:18 pound men out of the way like it was nothing. He made Yao Ming look like a baby, Speaker 1 47:23 which is crazy because Yao Ming is like five foot inches taller than him, which is crazy. Yeah, Shaq, we all know Shaq, top two, top three, top two center, and then he's the best center of all time. Best, he's the best Speaker 2 47:34 center of all time Speaker 1 47:35 over Kareem. Yes, over Speaker 2 47:37 Kareem. Speaker 1 47:37 I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I can't deny that. Don't forget. People say Wilt Chamberlain over fucking Shaq. I'm gonna lose my lose my mind. Speaker 2 47:44 Cream and Wilt Chamberlain were in the same era, mind you. So they had the same opponents. Yeah, Speaker 1 47:49 Wilt Chamberlain. He was Wilt Chamberlain. His 100 bucket me off. His 100 point game is real. 50 points. 50 points a game is real. Is it as credible though? Not really. Speaker 2 47:59 Not really. We only have one. We have no game footage and only one photo of the paper and the marker. Speaker 1 48:06 That's it. That's who. Who knows? They could have lied. I don't think they will lie about that. But they they did tend to exaggerate more way more back then than we do now. But but especially Tim Duncan is a Speaker 2 48:18 power forward. Speaker 1 48:18 And Tim Duncan's a power. Hey, Tim Duncan's power forward. Kareem, I can you can debate. I can debate. We can debate Kareem. It's because of his. Well, no. Tim Duncan, no. Moses Malone, hell no. Speaker 2 48:30 And Hakeem Olajuwon, no. Hakim Speaker 1 48:33 Olajuwon is great. He's good. He's

fantastic. Fantastic center of all time. Is he better than Shaq though? Speaker 2 48:39 Hell no. Speaker 3 48:44 if okay, I I'm gonna just say this, Giannis Ante de Kumpo. He when he first came into the league, he was a skinny, scrawny kid, right? Speaker 1 48:52 Yeah. Speaker 3 48:53 Then he then he put on his muscle. Next thing you know, boom, that's won. He won an NBA ship. Speaker 1 48:57 He won the NBA ship. No, and that's what I'm saying. You give Speaker 3 48:59 Wemby Giannis's build right now. Speaker 1 49:02 Oh yeah, Wemby Speaker 3 49:03 is dominating everyone. Speaker 1 49:05 Yeah, that's gonna be so Speaker 3 49:06 once Wemby like fully because this is I believe this is Wemby's fourth fourth year. Fourth Speaker 2 49:11 year. Speaker 3 49:11 Yes, once you give him like that more like veteran like development and everything like that, and also that spurs team is gonna be dangerous, Speaker 2 49:18 especially with the whole Dylan Harper situation. Ooh, ooh. Speaker 3 49:21 Oh wait, why why why must you bring that up, bro? So like everyone in the world right now is just heartbroken even more now, bro. Oh, that boy is an 85 overall in 2k right now. He finna go up to a 90. He finna go up to a 90, dropping 50. Dylan Speaker 1 49:35 Harper's going for 90 points a game. Dylan, Dylan Harper's a bucket. We all love Dylan Harper. Why did his his girl have to cheat on him though? Speaker 2 49:44 That boy had a $50 million contract. That Speaker 1 49:46 guy's a $50 million contract with with a random light skin, mind you. She messed. She messed up generational wealth to be with a random light skin, bro. Speaker 2 49:55 Light skins are overrated. Speaker 1 49:57 Like, are we serious? Just like Champagne Speaker 2 49:58 Poppy. Overrated, except for my boy Zay. Speaker 1 50:03 Except except for Zay, we we we love we love we love this guy, but uh, we gotta calm down a bit. We are getting a little bit loud. However, yeah, I can't disagree with that. Wemby, he's he's arguably one of the most dominant players right now, without a doubt. The only player is that only player I would argue being more dominant than him right now is Jokic, and that's it. Actually, no, maybe not it, because Jokic is very dominant on the offense. Jokic is Speaker 2 50:27 overrated too. I I don't like him at all. If Speaker 1 50:31 I'm being honest, yeah, his Jokic's defense has always been a problem his entire career. But Jokic is one of the is one. Yeah, he can't deny he's one of the best centers right now. He's obviously he can. He's one of the best, not if the best offensive center. Speaker 2 50:44 Nah, that's a Joel Embiid in my Joel Embiid or Cat. In my opinion, what Cat did in the finals, you can't argue with it. Speaker 1 50:54 Over Jokic, you Jokic is averaging a triple double a game, a 30 point triple doubles a game, and he's he's won an NBA. He's brought an NBA championship to a city, to a city whose NBA team hasn't won shit. He won three MVPs. Are you sure about Yochi? I just, Speaker 2 51:10 I just really don't like Jokic. So honestly, I'm just, I just hate watching him every single. It's the, it's the bias. It is a little bit biased. I just don't like him. I was gonna say Speaker 1 51:18 over Speaker 3 51:19 Jokic. Um, you just said you take Cat over Jokic. My my my boy. I I just be Speaker 2 51:29 I'm just be honest. It's a lot of bias. I just don't like Jokic. I don't like Speaker 3 51:33 Jokic. I don't like Jokic either. I'm a LeBron. I'm a LeBron fan, right? No, he. So when he was on the Lakers, the Denver Nuggets will always play the Lakers in the playoffs, and get and guess who would win Jokic. I'll Speaker 2 51:44 be honest because Jokic is definitely good. I just don't like him, and I'll always bring up the fact that my Warriors they be they beat them in the Western Conference Finals to get to the finals. I can't I Speaker 1 51:56 can't dispute that because the Warriors are my I've been my the Warriors were my childhood team growing up. The way they just played so fast that because you know as a kid you want like fast pace like a game, so yeah for me it's definitely yeah for me the Warriors were definitely my childhood team growing up and but I I actually I like Jokic solely because he has not done nothing against like my team or anything he's had no like crazy controversies or anything, so that's why I like Jokic. He's and let's be honest here, he's one of the most dominant centers in the NBA, without a doubt. His his defense is an issue. His defense is a little bit suspect. Is he Speaker 2 52:31 still a good scorer though? Yes, his score his score is fantastic, amazing rebounder, very Speaker 1 52:36 smart player, and he's he's the Joker. What can we say? Speaker 2 52:39 All right, anything? Last things we gotta say before we wrap it up. Speaker 3 52:44 Last thing I gotta say is go Cardinals, Bryce Young for MVP, and God bless you all. Speaker 1 52:55 I gotta say it. Go Saints. Even though we suck, but go. I gotta say, go Saints. Go LSU, go UNLV, and stay blessed. Have a good night. Speaker 2 53:07 And one thing I do have to say, Atlanta, you saw my bet. I still love y'all though. I still love y'all. Yankees, wake up! Please wake up. Trade Garcia, trade Helio Ramos back. They they were bums this playoffs. Speaker 1 53:27 Yeah, Speaker 2 53:27 and go Eagles, Jalen Hurts lock in, Nick Sirianni lock in. I know I know y'all can. But yeah, no, it's been ATZ Productions with your boy Takeo, Speaker 3 53:45 your boy Amari, and your boy Z, Speaker 2 53:48 and we gonna wrap things up here. Appreciate y'all for listening to our very first episode of our podcast, and we we just gotta give ourselves a little applause and shout out to y'all, and see y'all next week. Peace. Transcribed by https://otter.ai